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By Patrick

July 19, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

Well said Jeff. Let’s move on from Vick. We have to play Harrington next year and maybe pick up a QB in the 08 draft.

By D

July 19, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

it’s terrible that so many bigots want to make this into a race thing, it’s not. to those dogs that were treated like they were in an SS prison, color meant nothing to them, just ‘why?’. why? are they treating me this way? what have I done? I’ll work harder to be a better dog, if you let me. that’s all they were thinking. and to say Vick’s only responsibilty to this is the fact that he just happened to be hanging around with the wrong people and they burned him, well, that’s just ignorant and big cop out! none of this would have been possible if Vick had not financed the whole thing. he empowered everyone living there and hanging around there with financing. it started there, and could not have started without his financial investment. a pit bull doesn’t make a man, cruelty can only be expected from the weak.

By Killa

July 19, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Agreed. Get MV out of here. We’ve stood around and waited for him to “break out” long enough. Next thing he will be breaking out of is jail.

By chgfalcfan

July 19, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

guilty till proven innocent ay Jeff? You are a disgrace to your profession.

By Anita Brakee

July 19, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Boycott Home Depot until Arthur Blank stops acting like his name -Blank!!! I could not conceive of wathching Vick the Dick and enjoying the game. Have the Flacons considered road games? The fans will love the chance to give it to Vick!

By Diogenes

July 19, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

An open letter to Mr. Blank:

My two sons, ages 10 and 12 (who, by the way, since it inevitably will come up, attend a happily integrated school, and know and care nothing about racial politics) threw away their previously-much-beloved MV jerseys night before last. They did this wholly of their own accord.

They are the current and future fans of your franchise. If you allow this thuggish cretin to continue to be the face of that franchise, do you really think they will continue to be your fans? WHAT MESSAGE WILL THAT SEND TO THEM?

Just asking … .

By Airheadmotorcycle

July 19, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

You’re absolutely right, Jeff. I am disgusted to my very core. Do the Falcons know how many dog lovers there are in the US? This is huge. Michael deserves his day in court, but if he really did this, anyone who stands behind him now will face a public image problem for a very long time. Just wait till all the dog lovers have their say. Dog lovers v. Atlanta Falcons…they don’t stand a chance.

By Jan

July 19, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

I can assure you that if Vick is playing, I will not be watching. I hope that Arthur Blank suspends Vick. He should be suspended without pay but if that is not legally possible the least that should happen is his suspension. If he is found not guilty then reinstate him but if there is the smallest possibility that he is guilty of brutally murdering and injuring any living creature, I wouln’t want my team to be associated with him in any way.

By kathy

July 19, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

this makes me so sick…..the atlanta falcons should get rid of him and he better go to jail…i am looking at my sweet..sweet pit bull right now and can’t even imagine what went on….where can we email arthur blank..mayber if enough of us do that it ewill make a difference..what else can we do about this..the laws for people abusing dogs are insane…that’s why it goes on…..

By Mike

July 19, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

They have to sit him. I have already gotten one petition from an animal rights’ organization to ask Goodell to suspend Vick. There will be more. If the Falcons let Vick play even one snap this fall, they will be cast as endorsing his sordid behavior. Say what you will about the lunatic fringe of the animal rights movement (PETA, most notably), but mainstream America is so repulsed by this indictment that the Falcons will suffer a devastating p.r. hit if they let Vick play.

By Adam C

July 19, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

You’d have to be an idiot to think Vick didn’t know, regardless of how invovled he was. The fact that this goes on, betting on the lives of a dog, gambling on the death of a dog, is barbaric. The fact that this is a growing activity is frightening, it’s 2007 and some people think there is nothing wrong with it? How can the NFL and it’s players (Clinton Portis) defend this behavior, and how can society tolerate it?

By Lisa Simmons

July 19, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this

He deserves nothing less than the animals he tortured, abused, mutilated, and terrified. Michael Vick is pure evil.

Do the right thing, Atlanta Falcons. Do the right thing for the city, but most of all, do it because it’s the right thing to do. Send this wicked brute to prison to live in the caged hell he deserves.

By DOGS

July 19, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Jeff who are you you are a no body and a bottom feeder paper boy. you want Vick gone lone before now . I am a season ticket holder and want to see him play. let the court speak . you need not speak about because you and the AJC has had agenda to outcast VICK lone before now. You push hate and venom on vick because you want blue eye to play QB in Atlanta. And if you say you don’t have a agende you are lying . YOU and AJC Sport hate VICK but that is your problem. we need some more sport writer at AJC that don’t have Issues with the Falcons and vick. The dome is full not because of clown like you Jeff. I will buy Ticket just because of haters like you Jeff. Buy you a team and you can get who you want clown. We should not have a reporter like you and some of the staff at AJC sports because you ARE BIAS as HELL!!!!! Vick has dome some wrong thing but so have you and other sports players. You and the haters are so self righteous . Get the log out of your eye before you talk about the speck in someone Else’s eye clown!

By One Voice

July 19, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

I have a question for Arthur Blank: How much money have you payed to have a dog wet down and electrocuted in the past couple years? How much did you pay to have a dog slammed against concrete until its skull was fractured? How much to have one strangled?

Face it Arthur, you wrote the checks and those checks are what payed for these atrocities. You have a choice. You’re either okay with it or you’re not, and if it’s not okay for you to pay for animals to be killed for fun then you must cut Vick.

By Mark

July 19, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

To those that keep screaming “Innocent until proven guilty”, just because you get a Not-Guilty verdict doesn’t mean you are innocent. Just ask OJ. It’s a small but important distinction.

To Jeff’s point, I agree. Vick knew what was going on and even if they can’t prove it in a court of law, I want him gone. I will not support the Falcons as long as he is a part of the team. My wallet will be guided by my conscience.

By ran

July 19, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this

I am so sick and tired of you people that happen to know for sure that Vick is 100% guilty in all of this. For all you know the cw’s in this case are all liars. Give me a freaking break; I hope to God that you’re never brought up on charges that you haven’t been able to prove are true are false. That’s why we have a judicial system. If Vick is found guilty of these charges then he should pay, but please let the judicial process play out before you start slinging mud.

By Suchates

July 19, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

‘Diogenes’, that’s a good one!

By mountain jim

July 19, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Jeff, I think your examples of suspension prior to determination of guilt are flawed.

Drivers, police, and teachers accused of crimes that (if allowed to continue), pose strong risks to human life should be suspended from their jobs which involve potential public endangerment.

A pro football player accused of what Vick is - while it’s reprehensible if true he is not and has not acted as a danger to the public and thus deserves his day(s) in court.

Innocent until proven guilty is what America is about and it’s what I believe in - what you are advocating is just modern-day lynching based on a federal indictment which has not even begun to be proven.

If he is guilty or pleas guilt to end this mess sooner, then fine, the Falcons can get out of his contract and replace him, until then, I disagree with you and this column.

As an aside, during the water-bottle incident, you were also calling for Vick’s head and there was never any crime there was there? I think Vick must have treated you poorly in your sports-writing past and for you its personal.

By Vick Supporter

July 19, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

You are all acting like he pulled a ray lewis and murdered two people and by the way he’s still playing today. Vick will play this season but maybe not next. the falcons will go to the nfc championship game and lose. then hopefully people will be talking about vick huge improvement on the field instead of these charges which have not proven him guilty at all.

By JR

July 19, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

Jeff, You’re right, it is about winning games…and making money. Let’s not forget what this league is about and what this country is about. If Blank thinks he can make more money with Vick around, he will keep him; if not, they may go in another direction. WHEN Vick plays this season and IF the team has a winning record, he’s not going anywhere. Its about money, not dogs…even though 75% of this country loves a dog like another human being.

By to 'DOGS'

July 19, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

no matter what others have done, DOGS, two wrongs will never make a right.

By atlhotboy

July 19, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

vick is the man, he will be cleared and we will win the championship. then what will yall say?

By Brian

July 19, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

I will not watch the Falcons while Mike Vick plays QB. If you bought a ticket, great, you helped finance dogfighting. Guess that makes me a “hater.” Damn right.

By Roswell Ed

July 19, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Jeff I couldn’t agree more with your column. What amazes me is that there are people out there who will condone this criminal behavior.

What horrible family raised these creeps to grow up to believe that there is nothing wrong with this behavior? People who get pleasure out of other beings pain is just right above pedophilia on the ladder down to hell.

I’m no animal lover. Heck I don’t even like dogs, but participating in the act of watching 2 animals tear each other apart just so you can prove your masculinity to yourself is so sick on so many levels that it is just mind boggling to me.

What a poor pathetic group of people. I guess if you grow up in a culture that promotes not getting disrespected to the point of violence then this shouldn’t surprise anyone.

This blog will deteriorate into a race issue and it has absolutely nothing to do with race. This is about a subculture in society whether they are black yellow green white or blue that has embraced a lifestyle of criminal behavior. The end justifies the means.

How can you justify this to your children? Look in the mirror and take responsibility.

Be man enough to do that.

MIKE WON’T

By Hateville AT AJC SPORTS

July 19, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

They are not going to set down Vick. and if you don’t want to want watch NFL foot ball there is nascar or the redneck game! This not about the dogs it about a black man playing qb IN THE nfl AT NECKVILLE USA GEORGIA. THE GUY THAT in nwa there is not a blog about him. Race is in all we do and jeff is lead cheer leader clown. I will buy a falcons ticket but not a paper From AJC!

By Michael

July 19, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Couldn’t disagree with you on one word, Jeff. Vick should definitely be suspended pending the outcome of the trial. If he’s innocent, there’s no way he could focus on football while trying to clear his name of federal felony charges. If he’s guilty, you don’t want him anywhere near the world “Falcons.”

As someone who kept supporting this guy despite what others said about his lack of passing skills and other things, this offseason really makes you sick. Jeff is right. If Vick truly didn’t know, how dense is he?

So, um, how about Joey Harrington?

By Diogenes

July 19, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

To “DOGS” and certain other MV defenders who post:

The vast majority of us are sick to death of you defending this scum based on specious, disingenuous, race-based reasoning.

When white sports stars and celebrities commit stupid, evil acts, you don’t see whites close ranks behind them because he’s “one of us.”

Please be advised that every time you do this, whites take blacks a little less seriously, and view them with a little more contempt. And that’s NOT a good thing, for any of us.

By Dumbing Down

July 19, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

“Coach Killer”… Maybe!

“Dog Killer” … Probably!

“Franchise Killer”… Absolutely!

By Dan

July 19, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

All the people talking about innocent until proven guilty just don’t get it. That is purely for a court of law and to decide whether or not someone is deprived of there freedom. A reasonable person cannot look at the facts and believe Vick did not know what was going on. Some folks blame the people around him, nonsense, a “posse” does what the money guy wants and says, not the other way around. He is unquestionably involved, and even if he beats this in court, remember a verdict of Not Guilty does not mean innocent.

By Hateville AT AJC SPORTS

July 19, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Jeff you are just like fox news you ask a question knowing it not a Question this is a statement from you Jeff. you are bias and you need to be gone. we need to boycott AJC or COX!

By J.C.

July 19, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

those that think Mike Vick is innocent, are probably dumb enough to believe that George Bush is a Christian, too!

By Moorebuilder

July 19, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

Michael Vick is a product of his tough environment while growing up. While he chose to rise above much of it with his work ethic and natural ability - his inability to completely let go of an incredibly dark side of his nature will cost him millions of dollars and much adulation if not his career. No one wins in this situation - Mr. Vick, the Falcons, the NFL, Arthur Blank, the city, kids and fans that idolized him, the abused animals. Forget the issue of race, folks. We are all losers in this situation. It is not easy to step up and out of one’s upbringing and Mike Vick nearly did and was an inspiration. Unfortunately one dark part of his psychology could not embrace a different way and we all will pay for it - most notably Mr. Vick himself.

By Father of Five

July 19, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

I pray Mr. Blank acts right away because I agree that the ultimate outcome is irrelevant. Plenty of guys beat the wrap - “not guilty” doesn’t make them innocent. It took 2 trials before OJ was convicted, and everyone knows his hands (and socks) were not clean. My sons and I will not support the Falcons as long as they continue to aide and abet Ookie. It’s a very tough call (we loved watching him play), but others clearly feel the same. We don’t know how dirty Ookie may be, but he’s proven to be dirty enough. And we all know it.

By Rock

July 19, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Will somebody please explain to me how a football player is dangerous or harmfull to the general public because of his indictment for dog fighting. I thought this country stood for innocent until proven guilty. I guess I was wrong

By Larry

July 19, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

Innocent Until Proven Guilty vs Guilty by Association…

The Right of all Americans is to be shrouded by the cloak of innocence until proven otherwise. With that being said my father repeated told me when I was in my teens that “if you associate with people who make bad decisions, you can be guilty by association”. I would always nod my head to the affirmative when asked if I understood and to this day reflect on that statement frequently. It may come to pass(dropped by # 87) that Michael Vick is able to extricate himself from the grips of the pending Federal charges against him and his associates. However, the “backlash” this situation has created will taint his reputation and diminish any significant accomplishments he may achieve as an athlete or as a person. It is unfortunate that in a time of great historical importance (Iraq, Islam, Disease/Famine in Africa and Immigration issues) that we are fixated by someone who obviously hasn’t given much thought to his immediate associations, let alone his position in the grand scheme of things.

Go Falcons, take the Hawks with you!

By D-Cider

July 19, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

A police officer being accused of assault would be put on administrative leave with pay If he were a Catholic Priest in LA with a history of sexually molesting children, he would pay a bunch of money and never stand trial.
If he were a Congressman, he would still be a Congressman. For all the outrage about dog fighting, why is the Great state of Georgia the only state in the nation where it is currently legal to both attend a dog fight and to possess or breed dogs with the intent to fight?

Oh, and this is same great Federal Government that flushes our tax dollars down the toilet, convicted Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean for shooting a drug smuggler and sentences them to more than 10 years in jail while also failing to secure our borders. And is also filled with a bunch of political appointees that are basically hacks (take a look at FEMA) or elected representatives that become convicted felons and get to draw a nice, fat pension at the tax payers expense. In total, American taxpayers pay over $480,000 each year to Congressmen convicted of a felony.

Do I think the Falcons should cut Vick? Why not. Joey Harrington is a much better fit for a team that has a history of losing and will never, ever win a Super Bowl.

Btw, it looks like the NFL says Vick can play. So for all the other noise, I think he will be the starting QB for the Falcons.

By Roswell Ed

July 19, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Vick supporters.

Hitler wasn’t all bad either.

The trains ran on time.

By Tez

July 19, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

no room for compassion I guess… I heard they did further DNA test on the animals and it was a cow fighting ring. There are no laws against fighting cows so all charges are suppose to be dropped… :)

By POD

July 19, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

THOSE DOGS WERE HUNG, DROWNED, TORTURED AND A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS BUT SO WAS MY ANCESTORS. THE FEDERAL GOV SHOULD BE SPENDING TIME AND MONEY ON CONVICTING THOUSE PEOPLES THAT ARE WALKING THE STREETS TODAY. IAM PRETTY SURE 99% OF THE PEOPLE THAT COMMENTED ON THIS BOARD HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE TREATED PEOPLE OF ANOTHER RACE JUST AS BAD AS THESE DOGS. I DONT HEAR ANYBODY CRYING ABOUT SLAVERY, AND HATE CRIMES. IT DOESNT MATTER HOW LONG AGO IT HAPPENED, JUST REMEMBER HUMANS HAVE BEEN TREATED MUCH WORSE. THIS IS AMERICA VICK IS INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GULITY.

By Mike Kenn Rules

July 19, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Hateville at AJC,

Nascar is no longer a redneck sport, many folks of different races and creeds have taken to the sport of auto racing. This matter is not about being an african american quarteback in Atlanta, just look at how loved DJ Shockley of UGA is by Bulldawg fans and how Joe Hamilton is loved by Tech fans. Also, please look at who we consider to be our sport heros here in Atlanta: We all love Nique and Hank. We will defend these individuals to the death, just listen to how people responded to Finnebaum’s article on Hank. Plain and simple most of us are in shock of the accusations of Michael Vick. Here he is the most popular sports figure in Atlanta, millionaire, he has the world at his finger tips. He throws it all away with his actions. Our reaction would be the same for any person, no matter what their race might be. Now you might say what about Danny Heatly; well, in my opinion he received a greater punishment then any jail time. He has to live every day knowing that he killed one of his best friends and the memory of his friends lifeless body forever burned in his memory. That is true punishment.

By leesmith

July 19, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Thank you, Jeff. If people believe this about southern racism, as some obviously do, then perhaps the falcons could trade Vick. I’m sure many teams in the more enlightened north would love to have him. What a joke. No team will want this horrible, vicious, revolting, disgusting man. A previous post said it best. This man is pure evil. And please spare me all the innocent until proven guilty BS, If you really believe the Feds just made all this up, you really are deluded.

By Davis

July 19, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Jeff,

“If this were a backup lineman … there would be no hesitation.” Er, um…* Did you forget about Jonathan Babineaux?* Blank has taken no action against him.

Also, in case you haven’t realized, this is not any other profession - this is a professional sport. Talent wins out. Look no further than Leonard Little, Allen Iverson, Ron Artest, Kobe Bryant, Daryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Ray Lewis and Tony Martin (who beat a federal charge), to name a few.

If Vick is guilty, he will get what’s coming to him.

Oh, and by the way, if the Falcons cut ties with Vick, they will not field a competitive team until at least 2010.

By Hateville AT AJC SPORTS

July 19, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Half the people on this blog don’t buy ticket. If you want to leave go we have a line ready to get in. most are just hate filled . W has had over 3000 killed for lying and the self righteous see no wrong in that so many hypocrites! Vick is the wrong color . and you can cry it the race card. when you hear it’ not about the money it’s about the money . The same goes for race when you hear it’s not about race it’about race read our history of Georgia and the USA. if you are of color in america you are second class in the heart and mind of a lot of people. Because some where deep in there hearts they feel like that. The LAW is for the people of color and the poor. The rule is for the rest! But to you Vick you need to clean up because the haters will not rest “am I right Jeff Schulz”. you clown and hipcrit!

By Junior

July 19, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

To Michael Vick supporters:

The affinity between Americans and their pets is amazing. People who mistreat “Man’s Best Friend” are considered to be the scum of the earth. This is a prime example. Americans have a things for dogs, and someone will be punished for this. These people won’t stop coming for him until he goes down. Don’t waste your time arguing with these people.

By Junior

July 19, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

To Michael Vick supporters:

The affinity between Americans and their pets is amazing. People who mistreat “Man’s Best Friend” are considered to be the scum of the earth. This is a prime example. Americans have a things for dogs, and someone will be punished for this. These people won’t stop coming for him until he goes down. Don’t waste your time arguing with these people.

By Jeff Otto

July 19, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

My letter sent to the Falcons:

I am a 31 year-old lifetime Atlanta Falcons fan. Until today. I am from Atlanta and currently live in California. I subscribe to the DirecTV sunday ticket and superfan (almost $350) and watch the games each week loyally. I own plenty of falcons merchandise, including a doormat that sits proudly outside and two Michael Vick Jerseys.

As a dog lover as well (I own a four year-old Doberman Pinscher) my allegiance to the Falcons has entered a state of limbo. My Vick jerseys will go in the trash or on Ebay. My doormat is being put in storage. My DirecTV package will be cancelled. My NFL Team? Who knows, but until Michael Vick is released, I can no longer stand by my beloved Falcons.

This needs to happen quickly and an example needs to be made. The evidence is overwhelming, and short of a miracle confirming Vick’s innocence, this man must not be allowed to represent the Atlanta Falcons (or for that matter the NFL) ever again.

I’m sure this is one of many letters being received today, but I hope with each mounting number the message is plain. We cannot and will not support the team until Vick is no longer a part of it. And if he plays a single future game in a Falcon uniform, personally I will have to seriously consider ever cheering for the Falcons again.

Sincerely,

Jeff Otto

By to Rock

July 19, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

ok, Rock, I will explain, many serial killers, murderers and sadistic people, got their start torturing and killing animals. and these horrific people didn’t even stoop so low as to be betting on it. when you torture another living thing, when cruelty becomes acceptable to you, you start losing parts of your soul, your humanity. you become a little less compassionate, a little less kind, and caring about something or someone else, slowly diminishes. it’s one of the course tht people graduate from on their way to getting their PHD in cruelty. and unless those dogs are volunteering for this assignment, it’s wrong. it’s wrong because dogs are one of God’s creatures, they do hurt, they do have feelings, and they think. and if you even believe a little bit in God, he accepts killing an animal humanely to sustain your own life, but it is written that the knife should be very sharp when sacrificing an animal in this case, so as not to bring undo suffering to the animal. but no where will you find any one of high moral values accepting or even minimalizing cruelty. can’t see God condoning it, can’t see Ghandi or Mother Theresa condoning it, etc., but you could find people like ol’chuck manson that wouldn’t have a problem with it, john wayne gacy, wouldn’t have a problem with it. I hope that has helped you to undersatnd why cruelty is just plain wrong, and how it can dull a person’s morals and possible lead to worse things. I hope that your heart grows enough to be able to show kindness to others and to the animals of this world.

By falcon guy

July 19, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Sometimes in life you have to evaluate your surroundings and realize that you are screwed no matter what you do. Then you have to ask yourself, “which outcome allows me to feel good about myself?” When applied to Arthur Blank and the Falcon’s situation, the solution becomes crystal clear. Mike Vick was involved in dog fighting to some extent that allowed the feds to get an indictment against him. Whether it is to the level that warrants a conviction is irrelevant. He knew something, he owned property that allowed these activities to be carried out. At the very least he’s guilty of criminal negligence for owning property that these things happened at and he did nothing to stop it. That’s the naive view. The realistic view is that he knew everything that was going on and he has lied to Roger Goodell and worse to Arthur Blank and the Falcon organization and fans. Blank must cut ties with Vick, even if it means the Falcons take a hit on the field and in the salary cap for a couple of seasons. Even if he releases Vick and Vick somehow gets off without prison time and then catches on with some other NFL team and wins it all, it still would have been the right decision. You can’t claim to embrace the community and have a Falcon Filter on which players are brought in to play here, and then justify keeping Vick around. That’s an insult to the fans and players like Warrick Dunn who make a difference (on field and off). The Braves have a real Filter. Blank should too.

Besides, Vick isn’t just going to be in trouble for the dog fighting….he’s eventually going to be indicted on charges of gambling and tax evasion for betting on and winning at dog fights without reporting the income. Those charges are easier to stick than anything. It got Capone when nothing else did. So Vick is going down.

By D

July 19, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

get ‘em Roswell Ed! it brings up a good point, though, these guys have done something cruel that even Hitler wouldn’t do, ‘cause Hitler was a dog lover!

By john moon

July 19, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

If the Falcon QB was white and was a Ga Bulldog I would still Feel the same way get rid of him. I have been a Falcon fan from the start. I am 54 and this has not one thing to do with color, but if they hang on to Vick I will not watch the Falcon again! For those people who always play the race card, you need to look at your self maybe you have some racism in you

By jay

July 19, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

just another sad chapter in the sorry history of my beloved falcons. it never ceases to amaze me how EVERYTHING blows up in our face and NOTHING seems to ever go our way.

By VickDaMan

July 19, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Its funny how people get on the high chair…..America is the most hypocritical country period…you people will fight for what you feel is wrong or right..forgive who you want to forgive and judge those before you know the FULL circumstances…making judgements before all facts are known is outright ignorance….and NO all the facts arent known which why we have TRIALS.

Also…For the people yelling boycott this i wont watch Vick if he plays….PLEASE…you watch many more shows with people who have commited worse crimes in fact you probaly hang around some so cut the nonsense and come back to reality. For all of you saying what kind of example are you setting for the kids…cut the crap….you yourself dont even set a good example! Before you criticize someone…KNOW ALL THE FACTS!

By dr. elsbree

July 19, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

FOR ANYONE WHO HAS EVER OWNED A PET…… PLEASE HELP

[http://www.hsus.org/]

Go to the “Humane Society’s Homepage” to send the NFL commissioner a special note regarding this horrific crime.

Help the HSUS hunt down the pieces of human garbage who participate in this senseless act.

As humans, it is our responsibility to protect and care for animals…….

By Mike Kenn Rules

July 19, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

Hateville at AJC,

You are right, we made dog fighting and c** fighting illegal to target people of color. We made moonshine illegal to target rednecks. We put inforce RICO regulations to keep the italians in check. We made drinking and driving illegal to keep the irish in checking. I could go on and on about this, but I will leave the rest to Hateville.

Love,

W

By Native ATL

July 19, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

I agree with Jeff. Bottom line is he knew what was going on and allowed it to continue. Race has nothing to do with this issue. It is purely a matter of right and wrong. Humanity and inhumanity.

With regards as to the FALCONS (not the NFL)allowing him to play; as a coach and a team, how do you prepare for and start a season with one QB knowing that at some point (most likely about mid-season)he will be off attending to a lenghty legal issue. MV’s trial will most likely be set in the next 90 days and we all know it will not be over in a day or two.

You have to assume that and move forward. This means determining another starter through training camp and running with him into the season until the whole mess is cleared up one way or the other. My only hope here is, should B. Petrino be the coach I think he is, that D. J. Shockely be given a chance to compete for the #1 spot.

As a native born Atlantan, I have watched the Falcons since inception. I am personally offended at the entire situation and embarrassed for myself, my city and my team. I think that the NFL’s current position is taken only to allow Mr. Blank to do what I feel an individual of is caliber and integrity should do-suspend MV until further notice. If this does not occur, I feel the NFL will act quickly and decisively based on the apparent messages sent on previous players decisions.

Do the right thing, Mr. Blank. Regardless of the $$$ involved, do what is best for the city of Atlanta, the fans and the team.

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Until Vick is gone, go to Lowes. Don’t buy anything frome Home Depot!

By NASCARfan

July 19, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

I did a very good job of tuning out the Falcons during the 1999 and 2000 seasons. Everyone just needs to find something else to do while the game is on.

You can still follow the team by reading about the game, but you do not have attend the games or buy anything Falcon related.

Protest by turning off the T.V and spending time with your kids while the Falcons are on. When thay are off go watch REAL

By NASCARfan

July 19, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

I did a very good job of tuning out the Falcons during the 1999 and 2000 seasons. Everyone just needs to find something else to do while the game is on.

You can still follow the team by reading about the game, but you do not have attend the games or buy anything Falcon related.

Protest by turning off the T.V and spending time with your kids while the Falcons are on. When thay are off go watch REAL PLAYERS when the Colts and Pats are on.

By ballgal28

July 19, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

Well, Jeff…you wrote what I’ve been trying to say…I’m a big sports fan, an support the Braves…I’ve never been a Falcons fan and when Vick came along I pretty much laughed at the draft pick…if you watched him in college (where you get a degree…oh, Vick never finished) you should have known then what type of guy you were getting…then his brother having the trouble that he went through…sending him to speech therpy so that he could communicate while in the huddle (great education he got at VT)… then, the water bottle issue (as someone mentioned that we got all over Vick and there was nothing from that) my question, what are you doing with a fack bottom bottle anyway, knowing you can not get on a flight with a water bottle anyway…just a thought…then he used a hand gesture towards HIS fans when they booed him…didn’t even visit his old school when they went through a tough time…and now this…he has some sort of responsibility for the actions on HIS property…he stated that he did go by the house - come on, you have to notice something…

Well I think I’ve said enough…I just hope if he is found Guilty that they hang him from his balls…and if Not Guilty best of luck to him, just hope he can live with himself as a dog killer…

By James

July 19, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

From the “Poor House” to “Our House” to the “Dog House” to the “Big House”! He must go! #7 will always remind us of the seven ways he knows how to kill dogs (fighting, electrocuting, shooting, hanging, drowning, slamming and I bet one more we don’t know about).

By Hateville AT AJC SPORTS

July 19, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Vick is on coach killer ,dog killer? Franchise killer (what) you don’t read the history of the smith family (clueless)(UGA GRAD)and the Falcons. Vick is the Falcons like it or not you just hate the guy!He will do good this year watch, not you haters. and all that don’t want that #7 Jerseys of superman i will tack them! you people are real hypcrites !

By Patrick

July 19, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

dogfighting aside. those people claiming that the birds will get to the playoffs this year are delirious. Even with Vick they will have a hard time winning games. We are replacing Kerney with rookie. 2 of our star defensive players will not play a whole season. We still do not have a receiver that is worth a damn (Joe Horn is an old man). Dunn is aging, who knows if he can continue to have as many carries this year. Do you really think this team stacks up against the Colts, Patriots or even the Saints. I am a falcon fan and was a Vick fan, but wake up to reality folks.

By Blank is Scum

July 19, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Notice how quickly Blank met (conference call) with Goodell. Before Godell took the Humane Society’s and others rap, Blank influenced his decision.

The real scum here is Arthur Blank.

By VickDaMan

July 19, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

also…..has anyone seen or heard of any videos or pictures of vick at dogfights? Hoow credible are the people who obviously have been to the dogfight to place Vick at a dogfight. The ONLY thing Vick is linked to is his HOME…had this been found somewhere else this wouldnt even be a frontpage articel on the local newspaper.

By ran

July 19, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

You’re absolutely right Junior. It’s absolutely sickening the way most Americans care more about their dogs than they care for their fellow man. Give your dog a big kiss in the mouth and tell them how much you love them. Give me a break…..

By Luke

July 19, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

People…

RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS CASE.

Dog Fighting = illegal, no matter how you feel about it.

If you don’t like it move to another country.

It’s not that hard to figure out, but if certain people want to use race as a crutch then that’s their ignorance. When minorities stop using race as a crutch then race becomes a non-issue. Minorities are perpetuating their own racial discrimination.

By Sicem

July 19, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

There is no reason to think that Vick didnt know what was going on up there other than the fact that a lot of times there is no reason to understand what he does on the field. At times he seems as lost out there as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. The guy cant make proper decisions on or off the field. The only option he has in his game is to tuck it and run because he cant think fast enough to make proper field decisions. In his personal life he cant think properly either! He knew what was taking place and he participated in it which makes him a sick individual and a poor choice for the face of the Falcons! The guy has got to go before he discredits the Falcons and our city any more! How anyone can defend his actions is beyond me! People the guy is a loser and you have to stop defending him at the risk of discrediting your own intellect.

By boots

July 19, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

My two sons have Michael Vick jerseys that I have paid a lot of money for. But money cannot buy or cover what it would do to my boys if I tell them to look the other way when it comes to crimes like this. We have to take a stand, and if I am a bigger man than Falcons management, then so be it. It costs me about $120. It will cost the Falcons more to let MV go. It will cost them MUCH more if they do not. I hate it, too. I want to be looking forward to Sunday’s with a prayer of winning. But you have to stand up for what is right, and a few years from now, maybe less, we will be glad the right thing was done.

I miss the days of stand-up guys like Van Note, Kuykendall and Kenn need to return. I also miss the days of winning football. With Vick, we have neither to be proud of.

By Vanilla Nice

July 19, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

attention black people: if you keep misusing the race card, and keep over-using it, as you are in this case, then in a few short years, any time anyone tries to use that crutch, people will just point and laugh at you. you are discrediting yourself to the point that when you truly need and deserve justice, no one will care. no one will listen to you, the boy who cried wolf. this is NOT what MLK wanted for you! and you should start respecting his memory and his dream, and you can start by not sticking up for every black person even when their wrong just becasue they are black, you can start by no longer whining ‘oh, poor pitiful me’. you can start by taking race out of your life and not judging white people by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Mr. Blank,

Prepare yourself to see loads of people with their dogs out in front of that miserable dome everytime the Falcons play in it!

By Sic-Bird

July 19, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Pod, Why do you feel so put upon, we treated are slaves very well, they stayed even after being freed. So put that in your pipe and smoke it stead what you using now!!!

By ScaryThought

July 19, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

If you are white Blank could careless about what you think regarding Vick. He is a very smart man and knows that blacks will support Vick regardless of how sorry a QB he has been.

It is very scary that blacks yield so much power and what it will eventually do to our society. Ask anybody if they would prefer living in an African city vs other places in the the world and see the stupid look you get.

By Elliott

July 19, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Here’s the real question — why bother letting him play this year when he’s facing the Federal government, which wins upwards of 95% of all cases it brings? Even if he has a decent season, he’ll be in jail by 2009 for several years. The charges he faces carry a maximum penalty of 6 years, and there are still charges pending from the authorities in Virgnia. His freedom is in serious jeopardy, folks, and so is the remainder of his so-called career. The Falcons need to turn the page, and NOW, because the Michael Vick Experience has officially ended. He’ll be wearing an inmate number before he wears #7 for the Falcons again.

By Chicago

July 19, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Why any organization, football or otherwise would want to be associated w/ a person of that depth of moral depravity (taking a poor dumb animal and turning it into a killer for pleasure/sport) … my god what kind of a person is Vick … I hope he slinks off into a dark corner of the earth after he serves his rightly deserved prison sentence … he is no better than a child sex predator

By eagleman

July 19, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Great article Jeff. What a lot of people don’t realize is that the federal government doesn’t indict someone just for the sake of indicting them. They have a lot of stuff against him. Since 2000, the federal government has gotten guilty convictions of plea bargains on 99 percent of their cases. Vick doesn’t have much of a chance. All they have to show is proof of one phone call, one email or one recorded telephone conversation of him knowing about or participating in these events and he’s done for. Even knowing about criminal activity and not reporting it is a crime. Vick is a great player no doubt, but his head is just above water right now without much of a chance of getting out.

By Sicem

July 19, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

MR.Blank please cut out the cancer that is ruining your and our team. Most of us dont want to be known as the Thug team of the NFL and right now only you can do something about it. Get him out of here now and gain the respect of the decent fans! Also if you condone his actions you arent a respectful owner so please try and sell the team! We want a winning team that we can be proud of and what we have now is as far from that as it can get!

By D

July 19, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

there were free blacks that owned slaves in this country! blacks sold blacks to the white slave traders, and when the traders said they weren’t doing that anymore, then the blacks who captured prisoners from other tribes just executed them. every group of people has been mistreated at one time or another, every group of people have been used as slaves at one time or another. get over yourself!

By Mike Kenn Rules

July 19, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

If your “white family” did not arrive in the United States until 1935 are you still to blame for the problems of today’s people of color?

This ridiculous, plain and simple, Vick is being charged with a crime. A law that existed before anyone knew of Michael Vick was broken.

By Vick Fan For Life

July 19, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

All of you self-righteous people need to get over yourselves already! He who is without sin cast the first stone. None of you people are innocent. Can we focus on REAL news for a change? What about Iraq and Bush? What about global warming and high gas prices? Farmers slaughter animals violently everyday so that we can have protein in our diet, and no one is boycotting them. This is not news. Show this much outrage at our declining economy and education. Why are so many companies out sourcing jobs huh? Get passionate about REAL news so that we can have a better AMERICA!

Mr. Blanc, I am not a fair-weather fan. I will always support the Falcons because Atlanta is my hometown. There are many of us hometowners who will do the same. After this blows over and Vick is setting more NFL records than ever, then everyone will get back on the bandwagon. I am a true Vick fan, and I am not going anywhere. MICHAEL VICK I SUPPORT YOU BROTHER!!! KEEP YOUR HEAD UP! GO DIRTY BIRDS!!! May God bless us all.

By Ken Myers

July 19, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Fans, ATLANTA SPORTS MEDIA, national sports media, and other media members need to remember this very well about the Michael Vick case. Vick is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW. I know the court of public opinion, which most jounalists (sports and idiots like Nancy Grace of CNN Headline News) and fans believe in have already judged him guilty. How about this novel thought that would make sense; let the court system do its job without all the speculation to sell more papers and increase their beloved ratings points. I forgot; THAT MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE for the media abd fans to follow.

By ran

July 19, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

vanilla nice, stick to something you you’re qualified to talk about. It’s obvious you have absolutely no clue to what you are talking about. The only person that needs to take race out of the equation is you. I’m so glad that there are people out there that can seperate race from an otherwise ridiculous assumption on your account. People of color are absolutely fed up with all the disingenuous crap that spews out of your mouth.

By Joe Bob

July 19, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

Dear Fans,

I’ve been a falcons fan since 1972. It’s time to unload VICK! This is not the player to coddle and covet.. that play should have been Patrick Kerney or Matt Schaub, both of which are now exited. I’m disappointed in Arthur Blank by not coming out and saying enough is enough! Release VICK!!! Joey Harrington can not lead our team to the Super Bowl but as a strong FAN I will stand by my team no matter what the circumstance.

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

There will soon be other charges brought against Vick. Surry County, Virginia, more tha likely, will charge him with crimes associated with his dog killing and fighting. Also, the Feds, undoubtedly, are looking at his restaurant to determine if it is being used for money laundering. The Falcons need to get rid of this dog killing, dishonest scumbag now!

By Gene

July 19, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Kennesaw Mountain Landis banned the Black Sox for life after they had been found not guilty in a court of law. Professional sports are not bound by the “innocent until proven guilty” principle. There is no way that Vick can perform while awaiting trial, and his presence will further damage the team’s prospects. Both the league and Arthur Blank are cowards, and their refusal to act will only compound the problem for the Falcons and the sullied NFL. Vick will perform to boos anywhere he plays, including Atlanta. He will spend millions of dollars on legal fees and likely go to prison. There are certainly money trails that will lead directly to Vick. Like “Deep Throat” said, “follow the money.” Vick and his “gangstas” are not bright enough to cover a six year criminal enterprise. Federal prosecutors brought down Scooter Libby, and Vick is small potatoes in comparison. I don’t think that the President will be granting any pardons in this case.

By Elijah McCoy

July 19, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

this mean ol’ world doesn’t owe any of us a damn thing. you have to get up and get out and make something happen for yourself, no matter how many roadblocks get put in your way. but if you want to have a pity party becuase some people who are dead now disrespected some of your relatives that you didn’t even know, you will live an unfulfilled and bitter life.

By JJ

July 19, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

the only reason they are after Vick is because he is black plain and simple. If you dont realize that you are clueless

By ballgal28

July 19, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

“You’re absolutely right Junior. It’s absolutely sickening the way most Americans care more about their dogs than they care for their fellow man. Give your dog a big kiss in the mouth and tell them how much you love them. Give me a break….. - by ran”

You have got to be kidding…the dogs are defensless creature and rely on humankindness to survive…we as HUMANS have ways of defending ourselves…

By Jimbo

July 19, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

A suspension of MV7 by the Falcons would look like they were convicting him before his due process. That would infuriate many people but, I think mostly the African American fan base because of the percieved white justice system.

The Falcons and NFL’s current stance is the only way to go at this time. The Falcons are backed into a corner and they must wait for the legal process to conclude before a decision on a “presumed innocent” MV7 can be subjected to their punishment.

No matter what anyone says, this is a black & white issue and the Falcons know they cannot alienate a major part of their fans.

By HelpMe

July 19, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

Am I missing something. Vick will be tried (unless he plea bargins) in front of a jury of his peers. The demographics of the area where the papers were filed is 66% white and 11% black. Does anybody think that a black person will convict him? So all it takes is just 1 of the 12 for a hung jury (and a nonconviction), right? Help me to understand this.

By Sicem

July 19, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Laughing out loud at Hateville at AJC SPORTS. Man you are, oh nevermind LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL!

By Albino Squirrel of Norcross

July 19, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

I tell ya I don’t get no respect, all the other squirrels blame me for everything!

By ran

July 19, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

You have got to be kidding…the dogs are defensless creature and rely on humankindness to survive…we as HUMANS have ways of defending ourselves.

You’re absolutely right the dogs are defenseless creatures and rely on human kindness to survive. You really believe that don’t you? I tell you what, I’d like to see you try to get between a dog and his survival and we’ll see who’s defenseless. Every dog has survival skills just like you and me. So saying that they’re defenseless just doesn’t hold water.

By WAY TO GO JEFF

July 19, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

well said, jeff. this needed to be said by an atlanta voice in an atlanta paper, and you nailed it. i’m still waiting for terrence moore to accuse federal prosecutors of being racist - you know it’s coming.

anyway, blank hasn’t made a sound decision since he took over the falcons and won’t make one now. he’ll put his team through the ultimate scrutiny until vick is convicted - and he will be convicted.

By Steve

July 19, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

I live in San Diego and I am a Chargers fan. We gave our 1st overall pick in 2001 to Atlanta so you could get Vick (who our GM wanted at the time), in exchange you gave us Tim Dwight and the pick that got us LaDainian Tomlinson. Thanks! :)

By ballgal28

July 19, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

“Vick will be tried (unless he plea bargins) in front of a jury of his peers.”

Peers: who dog killers…

What if that “black” person has a dog? Then what?

By Tripp

July 19, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

This is how it will work. The NFL and Falcons will do nothing this year except wait for the judicial process to pan out. They have to do this due to the legality of lawsuits, player’s union policy, etc. They will have to deal with Humane Society rhetoric, signs at games, etc. We all know how slow the judicial process is - particularly in high profile cases. Therefore, even if Vick is acquitted, he will get hit with fines, extended community service and suspension from the NFL and the Falcons next year. I am and will always be a Falcon Fan and have been for 37 years. Where the Falcons will be hurt from my end of the spectrum is I certainly will not be purchasing anything with the #7 attached for a long time, if ever again.

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

The discovery of the dogfighting operation was quite by accident. The Surry County, Virginia police were searching Vick’s property in connection with the arrest of Vick’s cousin for making a dope deal. It is quite accurate to say that bias played a role in the Federal Government becoming involved in the investigation. Gerald Poindexter, the district attorney for Surry County, is black and he dragged his feet, didn’t pursue the case with any due diligence and was going to let it drop. That’s when the Feds surprised him and Vick by executing a search warrant and began making a case that has culminated in two federal felony charges. Now, to avoid becoming Vick’s cell mate, Poindexter is going to have to make his own case. By the way, there will be more Federal charges coming soon. Mike Vick is on his way to prison. The Falcons should cut him immediately unless they want to be associated, for all time, with this worthless dog killing, lying felon!

By other things 'ran'

July 19, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

other things ‘ran’ has tried to minimalize and justify:

black people using the ‘n’ word black people calling others racial slurs, redneck, etc. light skinned black people discriminating against dark skinned black people Darfur OJ Duke Lacrosse the black panther party ozzy biting the head off of a dove greyhound tracks clubbing baby seals the extinction of the spotted owl the dodo ethnic cleansing the LA riots the holocaust Rwanda the Khmer Rouge the Gestapo tawanna brawley poison pet food from China the Marquis de Sade the Manson Family IED’s…. and list goes on!

By I love my dogs

July 19, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

I am not giving a dime to the Falcons until Vick is gone!

By brock

July 19, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Hey ran, I don’t have to worry about being brought up on charges because I don’t break the law. Between you and pod you guys keep the stereotypes of your race alive by supporting a guy just because he’s “your brotha” and not because he is a man that may have committed a horrible crime. Look at the OJ supporters, the Michael Jackson supporters, the Ray Lewis supporters…etc. Mostly all blacks and all supporters of a color and not a man. Keep talkin cause you only give guys like me more to laugh about.

By vick is screwed

July 19, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

i just read that al sharpton and russell simmons wrote a joint letter to vick’s sponsors (nike, etc.) condemning vick and asking that they cut ties with him.

wow, if al’s not on his side, you know he’s screwed.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13706834/detail.html

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Terence Moore has called for Vick to be suspended!

By SG

July 19, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Does anyone else here notice that most of the posts defending Michael Vick seem to be from those who are less educated.

Some of these pro-Vick rants are incoherent at best. I suggest some good early-development courses like english and writing 101 for posters like DOGS and BRS so us folks that speak and read english can understand them better.

As for Vick, if the charges against him turn out to be valid, not only should Vick lose his career, but also his freedom. He deserves no less.

By ryan

July 19, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

all i know is apparently all of you need to be working for the feds because you know everything about the situation. keep in mind that you only know what you have read in biased newspapers and heard on ESPN. thank God you people are not on the jury because, according to you all, he is already guilty and no one has even heard the facts yet! JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED.

By ameria's mob mentality

July 19, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

hypocrites!! america is just full of people just like the ones that have posted here!!

personally, i hope vick is not guilty BUT if he is, then i hope he gets his just due!! but what p** me off is people like you will continue to support animal slaughter houses in this country and the world because you CHOOSE to eat them or wear them. again, hypocrites!!! you with your choices you do exactly what vick is accused of doin’… the senseless abuse, cruelty, and murder of helpless animals!!! YOU are NO different!! the asterisk here is that YOU get to keep YOUR hands clean and somehow this gives you a clean conscious!!!??!!! you’ll profess that it’s not the same but it is!! how many times have you decided ‘i gotta have those leather shoes or coat’ or ‘i will take my steak rare pls??? yeah, just a bunch of hypocrites that love the MOB MENTALITY!!!!

oh the fed conviction rate, does ANYONE remember TONY MARTIN of the NFL??? what happened with his case??? read up on it if you don’t.

as horrible as the charges are against VICK a lot of you people continue to support the same kind of cruelty with your daily choices!!! grow up people and pick up an %^%&^%&^ mirror while you’re at it!!!!

be a fan of ALL living creatures/beings and one that believes in ‘presumed innocent until found guilty. but if you are just a plain old ‘hater’ and ‘hypocrite’ then i KNOW i’m askin’ to much!!!!!

the ATL and GA…still a place filled with ignorance, hate, and people with an excuse!!! WHAT’S YOURS?????

By Knon

July 19, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

You Whites see Michael Vick as nothing more than animal so you rush to defend a more “defenseless” animal. The laws in the country work against mere “animals” like Michael Vick but look out for dogs. You think the protestors will howl in and outside the stadium when Michael Vick is there, just listen to hear the “mere’ animals roar if your Great White Hope backup quarterback ever takes the field as the starter. The roar will be heard around the world. And Mr. Blank WILL heed the call.

By ballgal28

July 19, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Wow…impressed…since Al Sharpton condemned the Duke team.

By jacketnation

July 19, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick has been named the celebrity spokesman for the new A.A.A. in Athens; this is a player formed Association of Arrested Athletes.

By ballgal28

July 19, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Oh my, i just read the whole indictment…my goodness…it made me sick to read it…i hope it’s all not true, but if it is then hang him from his balls…or better yet, put him in one of those rape machines and let him have the pleasure in prison…

By Fan of Another Team

July 19, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

For those defending Vick and wanting everyone to presume innnocence, yes he might be vindicated in all this.

However, when a judge sends a jury into deliberations he give them some instructions. The judge will give them the law that applies and some rules and will then tell them (as a judge told me when I served on a jury), “Use your common sense. You do not have to find absolute guilt, you have to agree that a reasonable person would look at the evidence and conclude that the party is guilty.”

A trial is not an episode of Matlock. There isn’t going to be a secret witness who runs in and says, “Hey, Vick was actually working for the CIA in Tibet and I can prove it.”

We all have brains. We all have common sense. No one wants to see a sports hero taken down. But if they do something as despicable as this and we have evidence that we can all see, well, we can make our minds up for ourselves and wait to see what the court does.

That’s how it works.

By Antone

July 19, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

If Vick in fact is laying down 20 grand on Fido; what kind of jack is he playing with on Sunday’s? The gambling allegations alone warrant suspension. A note to our jock sniffing empty suit owner, grow a pair and suspend this social miscreant.

By the Judge

July 19, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

hey, ryan, in your opinion, do you think Vick is innocent or guilty? and hypothetically, if someone offered you a bet of $1000.00, and you had the money to cover it, and they wanted to bet you that Vick would be found guilty, would you take that bet?

By ran

July 19, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Hey Brock, I don’t have to be worried about being brought up on charges because I don’t break the law either, idiot. It’s obvious that you don’t know what you’re talking about as usual. I’m not defending Vick, but you’ve made that assumption. If Vick is found guilty in a court of law then he needs to pay; not only with his job, but also with his freedom. So pipe down self made idiot and get your facts staight. Keep talking, because you give guys like me more reasons question your intelligence. In other words; you don’t have any.

By Max

July 19, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

There have been too many incidents with Vick now for people to just keep making excuses for him, or blaming it all on racism. Clearly, he’s no Donovan McNabb or Peyton Manning, two guys who have a lot of class and represent their cities and franchises well. Vick is all about himself. Whether he’s convicted or not, his on-going antics have put his teammates in a terrible position, and the fans deserve better than this also. Dump him now!

By Yurtle_the_turtle

July 19, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

This is in response to DOG…

You are a hater, DOG. Please tell me that you would rather do the right thing than support Vick because he is black! You need to grow up. First of all, you are the biased one, not Jeff. Secondly, when quoting something out of the bible, please don’t take it out of context so that it means something it doesn’t mean. Jesus wasn’t saying “Be stupid and never judge because you’ve screwed up yourself”, no He was simply saying when you judge, look at yourself also. Use your brains, you low-life idiot!

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 19, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

If you are serious about a boycott here is the info. It is not just enough to simply boycott the Falcons alone. You must turn off the NFL on Sundays all together. Do not complain about the Falcons if you are not prepared to make a stand against Blank and the NFL. My 3 year old son will never see his Michael Vick jersey again. I can no longer watch a Falcons game again with the same pasison if Blank elects not to make a stand against Vick. Sure he may have to field 10-15 undrafted rookies to offset the financial hit,but at least it would be a team I could feel good about. I feel ashamed to be a Falcon fan if Vick goes untouched.

Here is the physical address for the NFL along with their phone number:

National Football League 280 Park Avenue New York, NY 10017 (212) 450-2000 www.nfl.com

Here is the same thing for the Atlanta Falcons organization:

Atlanta Falcons Football Club 4400 Falcon Parkway Flowery Branch, GA 30542 770-965-3115 www.atlantafalcons.com

By Caucasian American

July 19, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

this white guy doesn’t think Vick is a good NFL QB, the case against him appears strong, and I wish anybody that is cruel to others or animals is sick and should get jail time, therapy or soemthing, but with all that said, as one of those darn white guys, I still don’t want Joey Harrington as our QB, and even with Vick not being a good NFL QB, I still think is is slightly better than Harrington. this is a lose-lose situation for me as a Falcon fan.

By ejukated

July 19, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

I just figured it out. Judging by his spelling, syntax, and opinions, “Hateville at AJC SPORTS” is obviously none other than Michael Vick himself!

By doug

July 19, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

For everybody who just wants to cut vick and throw him to the curb you obviously really dont know the ins and outs of the nfl (why would you this is atlanta who sold out 3 games all year in 1998 when you went to the super bowl and didnt start showing up until vick was here) There is this thing called first time offenders, where honestly you cant be suspended until you are convicted. Then of course some you guys say just cut him, well my friends there is something called a cap hit. Remember this, this is still a business to Mr. Blank and if you just cut Vick you will still owe money on that contract and set the franchise back a couple of years and there also an appeal process which Vick could do as well. Now with that said I agree with most of you Vick is in a lot of trouble Federal Indictmints just dont get handed out but the reason why Vick isnt getting suspended by the NFL or the Falcons is simple, b/c there is due process just like any other union.

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick put himself in this position! He’s the one who is charged with the felonies. He’s the one who engaged in dog fighting and killing of animals who couldn’t cut it. He’s completely to blame for the situation he finds himself in. No white person made him do any of the things he’s charged with. Roar all you want but Vick is done as a player in the NFL. As for Mr. Blank, he doesn’t want a boycott of Home Depot and I promise you that will be a reality if he stubbornly leaves Vick on that team. Shop at Lowes!

By kareem

July 19, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

I ASSURE YOU IF VICK IS NOT PLAYING I WILL NOT BE WATCHING GO VICK!

By Albino Squirrel of Norcross

July 19, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Nuts!!!!!!

By kdk

July 19, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

what happen to innocent til proven guilty?

By taco slammer

July 19, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick is not the person we thought he was. He has failed miserably in the character department once again. The time has come to release him from the Falcons.

By Ken Strickland

July 19, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

JEFF SHULTZ, while I totally agree with some of what you said, I question your motives and the way you embellished and misled. Here are some examples:

(1)Even though you are well aware MVick is a licensed dog breeder, you perpetuate the idea he should’ve been surprised to see a kennel in his back yd, receipts for prescriptions, large amounts of dog food, and dog breeding equipment on the property? Wouldn’t you expect to find those things at most any dogbreeding operation? (2)Of all the equipment you mentioned, how many items would not be found at any reputable high volume dog breeding operation? (3)Tell me JEFF, have you ever been to a dog breeding operation? If not, go to one and ask to see the area where the birthing is done. You will likely see some traces of dried blood. If you do, does that automatically mean the facility is guilty of dogfighting? (4)JEFF, I’ve owned 11 doberman pinchers over the yrs, and I bought all but 3 from the same breeder. I became very familiar with her operation as a result. She administered her own shots and medications, which required prescriptions. She used a special area to birth her puppies, and there was always traces of dried blood there. She also had large amounts of dog food on hand. When breeding dogs based on bloodline, you can’t allow just any two dogs to mate. Therefore, a rape stand is sometimes used when mating 2 specific dogs. Based on your article, she, as well as most dog breeders, could be presumed guilty of dog fighting as well.

In your article you deliberately embellished and misrepresented the facts. You went out of your way to perpetuate the idea that the items and circumstances, found at MVicks house, automatically raises the issue of dogfighting. YOUR ARTICLE DEMONSTRATES A LACK OF JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY. MVick might well be involved in dogfighting, and might be found guilty. If so, put his anus in jail and throw away the key, along with anyone else involved. But, we don’t need biased, unscrupulous and misleading articles from you, and clowns like you, to cloud the issue.

By ake

July 19, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

I understand that NIKE is going ahead with its Michael Vick Shoe. I wonder if they are calling this product “HUSHPUPPIES”.

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Well, kareem won’t be watching. Boohoo.

By T.C

July 19, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

i cant believe mr.schultz printed these comments about vick then hide behind its just my opinion.if you can only see the hatred in your so called opinion about a man you dont even know and by the way is at this time innocent.you knew(schultz)by sounding off with your hatred comments in the ajc that you would get your bandwagon comments that would make you sound right,tight,so you could shine.and you suppose to be a sports columnist.i urge people to read your comments you printed on 7/19/07 over and over before they respond because it sounds like your commenting about a DOG instead of a human being.shame on you mr schultz,and from this point on i think someone at the AJC should read over your work before its printed.AND THIS IS JUST MY OPINION,I THINK YOU SHOULD BE REPLACED.

By brock

July 19, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Ran is a riot. your angry comments and name calling reflect your intelligence perfectly. People use name calling as a way to cover up being ignorant and having no confidence in their arguments. Way to go. Attack me again with your nonsence. And what is this “don’t know what your talking about as usual” thing. This is the first time I’ve been in this blog. Try to stop being a shock jock for a while and speak with some conviction and honesty.

By Kelley

July 19, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Blank needs to go spend some time with the people who run the organization across town—Schuerholz and Bobby Cox—to learn how to run a respectable, winning, and more importantly, honorable, organization.

Michael Vick is responsible for his own choices; but the Falcons should look in the mirror at how they have ignored his off field antics and let them continue with no consequences.

I cannot begin to imgaine what Bobby Cox would do if one of his players shot a bird to the fans while exiting Turner Field. I can promise you, it would not be pretty.

No, Braves players are not perfect. But, it has been made clear that players, no matter how talented, who do not conform to Braves standards and follow Bobby’s leadership do not stay Braves long. The biggest scandal, John Rocker, didn’t stay a player long. Besides that, about the biggest controversy you’ve got is Chipper and his Hooter’s girl; I’m sure Blank would give up one of his Home Depot stores right now in exchange for that being all he was dealing with.

Good example of the good leadership keeping players in line?? Where is the only place that Gary Sheffield has kept his big mouth shut and stayed out of the headlines? Atlanta.

The Braves provide excellent leadership, guidance, and standards of excellence for their players and there are no exceptions, no matter what the talent level. The Falcons, however, obviously have given Vick no guidance in being a leader, on the field and off.

Arthur Blank would be well served to seek guidance from Schuerholz and try to pattern his organization after one that has proven to be successful. Were Michael Vick a Brave, the Braves would have cut ties with him a long time ago if he had not changed his behavior and improved his image.

Personally, I’m glad right now that I have more tomahawks im my closets than Falcons symbols.

By Mad as Hell

July 19, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

That was bad….ake..

In reference to dog breeding areas…what are you needing to use a treadmill & “slat mills”…do they need to get into shape before they rape the female dog held with her head down to be submissive??????

By Jan

July 19, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Come on people, this is not a race issue. I wouldn’t want anyone who brutally injured and/or killed any of god’s creatures, or contributed to those acts to represent the Atlanta Falcons, Atlanta or Georgia regardless of their race. I am proud to know that Dunn is a Falcon, he is someone to be admired and looked up to. Deion Sanders was a admirable Falcon. Both make Atlanta proud that they are or were a part of this City’s NFL team along many others, too many to name there names are just some of the more prominent.

Michael Vick is a embarrassment to the State, City, team and fans not only with being associated with these horrendous acquisitions/incidents but for his other recent past actions. I would rather have a proud team that loses without Vick than a winning team with Vick that has been disgraced by Vick. I bet there are many players on the team that don’t want to be associated with him.

Again, if he is not suspended I will not support this team and I have bought my last items from Home Depot. The Lowe’s in my neighborhood is a much nicer place to shop anyway and it is located closer to PetsMart!

By stendec

July 19, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

John Moon. I, too, am a Falcon fan from their inception over half a decade old. I once reviled Jeff George and Chris Miller (both white) but they are Saints compared to thug MV7! I will watch, only in the hopes of seeing the dog-killer go down with a career-ending injury. Remember the cheers heard when Chris Miller was wheeled off the turf? If it occurs in Atlanta, the joyous ovation will be ear-splitting indeed. Arthur Blank? If he keeps Vick around, to Hell with him too! Sideline visitors do sustain injuries! Give Falcons back to fans!

By D

July 19, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

we don’t need breeders. until we find homes for all the strays we already have, we don’t need breeders. if you want a good dog, get a good dog, mutts are great. my dog could herd cattle or be a fetch birds while hunting, but no, the only reason he can’t is because he doesn’t look a certain way. people have to buy a specific type dog go birdhunting, for their image, and nothing else. who says a fire dog has to be one of those tempermental Dalmatians? be we all know why Vick was breeding a certain type of dog, it was for a certain reason, and do we really think it was for anything else? and what did anybody think they were going to do with those dogs they paid so much for and took the time and expense to raise? it happened, and even a biased person filled with hate and pain of racism can’t get out of the way of the truth on this one. good luck to Mike, but for whatever reason, it looks like both parties in this relationship could use a fresh start, apart.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 19, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

How is it that so many Afican Americans on these blogs find it difficult that Vick is guilty? Yet when you see the African American “talking heads” on TV the are realists about the indictment and the conviction rate of the feds. Understand the feds have been after Bonds for 2 years and have not indicted him, but within 6 months they were able to gather enough evidence to indict Vick. The race card is the easiest argument to make, why not taking a look at the dogfighting subculture in the African American community and start by accepting the possiblity that Vick is guilty and use this as an example that this will not be tolerated any longer.

By Adam C

July 19, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

I want Vick off the team, does that make me a racists, you know, as a white guy who went to Georgia?

I also want the Falcons to pick up Dante Culpepper, not b/c he’s black, but b/c he’s 6’6 270lbs, has a cannon of an arm, and can actually lead a football team! And will hit our WR in stride.

On another note. Hunting a deer, or eating a cow, is a lot different than forcing a lil lab in the ring against a pit bull for a warm up fight, and than throwing pit against pit for hours of ‘entertainment’ fighting, gambling and other illicit activity. This is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and when you brake the law you go to jail.

For all other jokers who say why are we concerned with all the troubles in the world (Iraq, global warming, insurance, immigration etc…) I ask you, should we put all other alledged crimes on the back burner while we solve the problems of the world first?

If I was federally indicted on any charge at all, I would instantly be suspended, without pay, until allegations were passed or until I had my day in court. Vick is most certainly receiving special treatment from the league, basically because he’s Vick, and he is a superstar in the league.

By Falcon fan

July 19, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Deion is a jerk! I’ll never forget how he gave up on this city and then how he treated our fans in his first game back. he’s got talent, great athlete, ok? but the guy’s a jerk and he enjoyed stabbing Falcon fans in the back the first opportunity he got!

By Mary

July 19, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

I think it makes a horrible statement to our children that athletes like Vick and several in the past have done horrible and illegal things simply get a slap on the wrist because they are needed to win games! I know as a single mother of a five year old son I am trying to teach him good morals and put him in the company of good male role models. I would never allow him to watch the Falcons if Vick is playing or buy anything associated with him.

By stendec

July 19, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

CORRECTION-Make that half a century, not decade, old. Get antsy typing fingers when angry. As I am now!

By Eternal Optimist

July 19, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Jeff, you’re really eating this up huh? Don’t get me wrong, if he is proven guilty of these charges he’s got to be the dumbest person on the planet. If he’s guilty but gets off he’s got to be the dumbest, luckiest person on this earth. Either way this was all a stupid move. Most of all I hate the fact that he has given you ——- ammunition. I totally condemned fighting dogs. Pitbull’s can be an excellent family pet when raised in the right situation, but my football senses tell me that it’s gonna be a long time before the Falcons see the light of a superbowl not to mention the playoffs with out the services of MV7. By the way, I must admit I would rather have him with us,,sorry doggies!!!!!

By vick is screwed

July 19, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

hey ballgal28, you are an idiot for comparing sharpton’s condemnation of the lacrosse players to his condemnation of vick. that’s because sharpton, as well as the rest of the public, was misled by a prosecutor with alterior motives who lied and witheld evidence that cleared the lacrosse players of any wrong doing.

i can not stress enough that this is not a state case, THIS IS THE FEDS. they don’t screw around. they didn’t collect a team of racists to work around the clock to frame a high profile athlete because he’s black.

the government has been frustrated for years in its attempt to bring focus to dogfighting, because the american public either didn’t think it existed, or didn’t want to know about it. now, the american public has to deal with it, and it just so happens that the man behind the operation is a high profile athlete who happens to be black.

you can say “innocent till proven guilty” for right now, but once that trial ends, you’re going to be looking real stupid. again, this is the feds. they wouldn’t have handed down an indictment if they weren’t 100% confident they’d get him convicted. your time for defending vick is on a short lease (heh heh, pun intended).

watch the corn hole, vick. you’re going to federal “pound me in the a” prison, son.

By AJC-AJOKE

July 19, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

I JUST WANT TO SAY, YALL CAN SAY THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACE IF U WANT TO,BUT BY READING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS YOU CAN SURE TELL WHO’S BLACK AND WHO’S WHITE.

By ran

July 19, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Brock, I’m not angry at all. The adjective I used to explain you doesn’t come from anger, but from an observation of your comments. Seems to me my comment really got to you, how quaint. And by the way do you really know what conviction and honesty mean? I doubt it….

By Diogenes

July 19, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

It’s amazing to me how the vast majority of white Georgians have supported a long list of black athletes — men who have exhibited class and integrity — from Hank Aaron to Herschel Walker to DJ Shockley to Fred McGriff to Dominique Wilkins to Warrick Dunn, just to name a few.

Criticize a lowlife thug like Vick, however, and here come the ridiculous howls of “You just hate him ‘cuz he’s black!”

Oh, good Lord. You must be such small and petty people. To paraphrase Buzz Lightyear, “You have my pity.”

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

July 19, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Eternal,

You would actually feel good about winning the SB with this guy? I would rather lose the right way than win the wrong way, and keeping Vick is wrong. That really is troublesome that all you see is Wins and Losses in this. This is a bigger issue than that it is about Blank leading his franchise the right way even if it does cost him a few million. It is about his legacy to this city and to the Falcons fans. I would rather look back at this time and say he was a man of conviction rather than a sellout because of his bottom line.

By John

July 19, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Hey DOGS ! Please learn how to spell and post a grammatically correct statement. Vick needs to go NOW !

By ballgal28

July 19, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

hey ballgal28, you are an idiot for comparing sharpton’s condemnation of the lacrosse players to his condemnation of vick. that’s because sharpton, as well as the rest of the public, was misled by a prosecutor with alterior motives who lied and witheld evidence that cleared the lacrosse players of any wrong doing.

what i was trying to say in my comment (and maybe i didn’t do that very well - i’m sorry) is that Sharpton is bias and i’m shocked that he is condeming Vick’s actions. So, sorry about that vick is screwed

By JT

July 19, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

for the comment that was made that, you take blacks a little less serious, because we come to each others aid in a sort of way, is not true. i owned a rot-weiler and a doberman-pincher and i love dogs. don’t make this a racism thing because, we comfort each other on issues something that you evidently don’t understand and that is why we do it. no one ever questioned, back in the days when blacks were being hung from trees and no justice was even given to anyone. i just want to see vick get a fair shake and i know he probably knows more that what’s being said and after all the fed’s are talking to convicts and they will say whatever needs to be said in order to spend less time in prison. the judical sysem is not perfect but guess what, we have to make our voices heard, so we can it as honest as possible, if not none. let vick have his day in court and then we shall see, TO ARTHUR BLANKS ASK VICK IS IT TRUE OR ARE THEY LYING TO BRING YOU DOWN WITH THEM, BECAUSE HE DID KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON ### ARE YOU GOING TO HURT THIS TEAM. MAKE DECISION.

By Albino Squirrel of Norcross

July 19, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

ajc-ajoke you are correct sir! you can tell who is white and black on these posts…the white people are the ones taking in the facts without a clue that race should be involved and the black people are the ones trying to tell us a turd is a diamond! but will it scratch glass?

By Magneto

July 19, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

The Falcons need to pick up Culpepper. That way, all the race whiners will be silent and we wil finally have a QB with some sense leading our team.

By Geaux Saints Geaux!

July 19, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

A thought from Louisiana. Your columnist is absolutely correct. If Vick comes to visit the Superdome this year, you can be assured that our truly compassionate Saints fans will greet him with a thunderous chorus of “Woof, Woof, Woofs” and “How ‘bout dem Dogs!”. Drop this despicable bum now, pick-up another QB during the exhibition season, support your team and new coach this year, and draft another QB down the road. If the Falcons value a QB who can run, why don’t you just give DJ Shockley a chance?

By Eugene Robinson

July 19, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

wow! this guy’s making me look good!

By ChampDawg

July 19, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

Dog fighting… inhumane and the target of public outcry. Two whales are miles inland and struggle to find their way back to the sea… national headlines and concern. Zoo animals (pandas, etc.) born and/or die.. again, national headlines. Thousands of babies aborted in this country everyday… no one cares. What a sick society we live in. If it’s proved that MV is guilty as charged, let him pay the just penalty. He’s innocent until proven guilty. But what a wacked-out set of priorities we have.

By J204

July 19, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

I am glad DOGS is not my spokesperson. DOGS, go back to school and learn to spell and write basic grammar.

By mountain jim

July 19, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Ken Strickland * Excellent post, and *way to point out Jeff’s slanting the facts and the nature of the bad journalism he has been practicing concerning Vick this whole Vick-mess offseason.

Independent of the issue of Vick’s guilt or innocence (I agree it’s not looking good for his innocence and for many of the reasons Jeff points out), Jeff and others at the AJC have written numerous columns on Vick this summer which have either slanted or totally misreprented the facts to support their desire to railroad Vick out of town - he did it during the water-bottle incident, and he does it here when he pretends not to know that Vick was and admitted to be a licensed dog breeder (you can find an old 2001 article to back that up and you know Jeff knows about it).

He also presents a weak argument for suspension based on the jobs of police, teachers, and truck drivers, as I pointed out way earlier in this blog..

But he called for Vick’s ouster during the water-bottle incident, before the facts were even out there, and his personal animosity and hatred for Vick have been on display in the AJC for months.

Jeff Schultz - Your column and point of view would make a stronger case if you had a better record of journalistic integrity when it comes to Vick and his problems and the facts - which is again why I believe you should not get to carry the lead torch for this lynch mob in this blog - this is still the USA and Vick is still officially innocent and you are still making your case by either pretending not to know (or just refusing to be admit) certain publically available facts on Vick’s dog-breeder business, just as you slanted the facts and called for his removal over the no-crime involved water-bottle incident.

With you and Vick it’s personal - you have proved that repeatedly.

I’ll be the first to wave bye-bye at Vick if and when he is convicted, but a fed indictment is not a ‘guilty’ verdict.

As an aside, I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years and love animals, so I can definitely appreciate the hypocracy of those here that now hate what Vick is alleged to have done but yet eat their slaughtered animal flesh every night.

I love animals, but I love justice even more, and your columns this summer on Vick and your pre-judgment of him is not American justice, at least not how ‘justice’ has been practiced since lynch mobs were condoned in the not-so-distant-past south.

By Greg in St. Louis

July 19, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

I read a statistic today that indicated that since 2000, over 435,000 federal indictments have been handed down. Of that total, 99% resulted in a conviction. The Falcons better be looking for another QB.

By Barbro

July 19, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

To all of you who love animals so much where were you when I was beaten during my training? Where were you when I was trained by cruel methods? Where were you when I broke my leg running with a man on my back? Where were you when I was killed because I couldn’t run anymore? If dog fighting was a rich mans sport we wouldn’t be having this discussion. What do you think happens to poor horses that can’t run fast? Oh they are just put out to pastor and are kept happy until they die of old age. Yeah right, they are put down or given to short track owners who treat them just like DOGS. What about grey hounds? You already know what happens to them so a few are adopted and we fill better about our selves. That’s the American way, attack the little guy with the GOVT. but turn a blind eye to the big fish. Make no mistake If Vick was involved he was wrong but don’t make it seem like he is the worst thing since CRACK hit the streets. You want to make a real statement go after all animal sports because we can’t read animals mind and we don’t know if the want to run, jump, fight, etc……. Don’t make VICK out to be a criminal MASTERMIND because anyone who has seen him play knows better. The dudes fast but he’s not too bright.

Thanks, BARBRO

By Alan Zukof

July 19, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

“Hitler wasn’t all bad…. The trains ran on time.”

That was Mussolini.

However, Hitler did love dogs and small children….

By jacketnation

July 19, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this

Trash come in all colors, shapes and sizes. Who would use a secret compartment in a water bottle to hide their earings? That was Vick’s answer to the hidden compartment with pot residue amd particles. I guess the FBI is lying and only Vick is telling the truth. He just didn’t notice all those pitbulls in the back yard or hear them when they where fighting or notice the great mobs of thugs in attendance when these fights took place. Maybe Vick was sleeping in a hidden compartment and just didn’t know about any of it?

By Brock

July 19, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Oh ran…you got me. What can I say? You are all knowing. I’m bored with you. Your no fun. Just angry.

Very well said Lowcountry. The feds don’t just make up evidence. They have to have enough proof before they can even make an indictment which reflects on their conviction percentage. DOn’t believe everything you read…yes. But don’t show a lack of common sence either.

People keep bringing up the Duke case. This is totally different. They had strippers that couldn’t keep stories straight. No evidence of some of the guys even being there. (they proved one player was at an atm getting cash when he was said to have been there)not mentioning the fact that a DA was out for relection at the time.

The feds in this case against Vick have nothing to gain politically. Just to put criminals behind bars.

By ejukated

July 19, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

If I were truly guilty only of owning the property (and knew nothing of the dogfighting, dog killing, etc.), I suppose I’d be making a statement something like this:

“I am truly shocked, outraged, and deeply saddened to discover that people who I thought were my friends have abused my friendship, and in such a particularly egregious, heinous manner. I look forward to clearing my name as a result of this federal investigation. I also look forward to seeing justice brought to those who knowingly engaged in such cruelty, solely to fulfill their own perverse desires. Their actions are despicable, and I can’t begin to express my sorrow to know that dogs have been so horribly mistreated on my own property.”

Funny, I don’t hear anything of the sort coming from Vick.

By Get A Clue

July 19, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

I found this post from a popular website to be very interesting. I’m sure there will be a comment about it:

“Is Vick being singled out by the feds for being a millionaire while black? Why is dog fighting a felony in Virginia when bestiality or Zoophilia is perfectly legal in the same state? For those who don’t know: Zoophilia means human sexual attraction or intercourse with animals - including dogs. So while Vick is being brought up on charges of fighting dogs - which is something dogs do naturally anyway - it’s perfectly legal in Virginia if his neighbor wants to sleep with his dog.

I’m just asking because this federal indictment smacks of a federal witch-hunt. Why spend taxpayer’s $$$ to bring Vick up on charges that will probably result in probation or a slap on the wrist? What jury is going to convict Michael Vick of dog fighting in the same state where Snoopy and Homer get it on in the back yard and nobody says anything about it?”

IT’S NOT ABOUT RACE BUT $$$! Witches…

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Culpepper, if you remember, was thrown out of Minnesota for his conduct off the field. Let that trouble go somewhere else. Harrington has been in the league one less year than Vick and has thrown one more touchdown than the dog killin’, coach killin’, chitlin’ eatin’ maggot!

By wes

July 19, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

I’d still like Mike Vick if he had only done this to Uga.

By Magneto

July 19, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

mountain jim,

Killing animals for food and electricuting them because they lost a fight is to different “animals”. You just spent all that time writing what you thought was an intelligent post when in actuality you just demonstrated why people like Vick do the things that they do. They have a support team around them who excuse everything they do and don’t hold them to any accountability for their actions.

I too like justice and it looks like it is being served with these indictments.

By jb

July 19, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Jeff, I think your examples of suspension prior to determination of guilt are flawed.

Drivers, police, and teachers accused of crimes that (if allowed to continue), pose strong risks to human life should be suspended from their jobs which involve potential public endangerment.

A pro football player accused of what Vick is - while it’s reprehensible if true he is not and has not acted as a danger to the public and thus deserves his day(s) in court.

Innocent until proven guilty is what America is about and it’s what I believe in - what you are advocating is just modern-day lynching based on a federal indictment which has not even begun to be proven.

If he is guilty or pleas guilt to end this mess sooner, then fine, the Falcons can get out of his contract and replace him, until then, I disagree with you and this column.

As an aside, during the water-bottle incident, you were also calling for Vick’s head and there was never any crime there was there? I think Vick must have treated you poorly in your sports-writing past and for you its personal.

By Vick8ter

July 19, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

We all know we can not get on a flight with liquid. What makes MV so different? Oh, it must have been AirTran - who dropped him in a heartbeat. I don’t like Lowes as much as HomeDepot. But, I can learn to like it. As a white female I’m afraid to make a statement in writing out in public because I fear for my life. I mean I can not even carry a sign like those of the Vick supporters.

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

By AJC-AJOKE July 19, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this I JUST WANT TO SAY, YALL CAN SAY THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACE IF U WANT TO,BUT BY READING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS YOU CAN SURE TELL WHO’S BLACK AND WHO’S WHITE.

I’m just guessing here Joke but would you happen to be a Negro?

By Ebonics

July 19, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

hey this is DOGS! I just moved from Boise ‘cause I didn’t want to live in IDAHO!

By David Duke

July 19, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

By AJC-AJOKE July 19, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this I JUST WANT TO SAY, YALL CAN SAY THIS IS NOT ABOUT RACE IF U WANT TO,BUT BY READING SOME OF THESE COMMENTS YOU CAN SURE TELL WHO’S BLACK AND WHO’S WHITE.

I’m just guessing here Joke but would you happen to be a Negro?

By Ray Lewis

July 19, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

I did not murder anybody. I was standing next to somebody who committed suicide.

By jacketnation

July 19, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Con-Vick-ted

By Columbo

July 19, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

hey, look out ya’ll, I don’t think that was the real Barbaro, this guy can’t even spell his name right!

By SO many racist idiots

July 19, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this

No….I am not speaking of the people who think Vick is guilty. I am speaking of the people who defend their own race no matter how obvious the guilt is. It is truly disgusting and shameful.

By Big Don and the Westside Girls

July 19, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

If you’ve ever wondered how Vick could get himself into such a situation, these blogs will provide the answer.

As long as there are people who are willing to make excuses for everything he does, Vick will continue to do anything he wants to do. He’s just like all of the other childish and immoral athletes who get a free pass from the millions of pathetic jock sniffers who live vicariously through these so-called “heroes”.

This time, however, Vick may have screwed up so badly that even his adoring minions cannot save him. IF he’s convicted, he WILL go to prison, and more than likely, never play another down in the NFL.

We can only hope that Mr. Blank has the courage to do the right thing and give Vick a leave of absence until the situation is resolved in the courts. It would be a disgrace if the Falcons win a single game with a possible future Federal convict on the field.

By Sam

July 19, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

I could care less who the Falcons have to play this coming season. One of their own has committed the most horrible crime ever. He needs to go to jail for 6 years if not more. How could do those things to animals that can’t protect themselves. Obviously Michael Vick isn’t man enough to beat up on another man. He has to hurt innocent animals. I have lost all respect for this man. I hope he gets kicked out of football for the rest of his life along with going to jail.

By SO many racist idiots

July 19, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

No….I am not speaking of the people who think Vick is guilty. I am speaking of the people who defend their own race no matter how obvious the guilt is. It is truly disgusting and shameful.