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By Stu

July 18, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

I’ve waited for several years for Vick to become the player is supposed to be. He can make some great plays, but I’ve never been convinced that he is the quarterback to take the Falcons to the Super Bowl - and win.

I’ve been a fan since 1966 and believe me, it has been 40 years of wandering in the wilderness.

By John M. Dav is

July 18, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Arthur Blank needs to do the right thing for the team members and the franchise: FIRE VICK IMMEDIATELY!

By Lex Luthor

July 18, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

I used to think MV7 was too stupid to learn his plays. Not that’s confirmed.

By Spike

July 18, 2007 10:45 AM | Link to this

I will not support the Falcons again as long as Michael Vick is on the team. In my mind, he has proven once again that he is nothing more than a thug with a thug’s heart, mind and soul. Let D.J have the team.

By Grampus

July 18, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

People do stupid things all the time. I just wish I had his money to do them with.

By Redoubt

July 18, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

There are a lot of people who don’t now, and have never liked Michael Vick. This is something of a party for them.

Then there is the major, national sports media who have never liked Michael Vick or the Atlanta Falcons.

Finally, there is the public and Mr. John Average. If they were to have these very same charges brought against them, there would be no bold type or even any headlines at all. Their’s would be a case mostly ignored while the system of American justice, aka; ‘innocent until proven guilty’ was played out in a court of law.

Fair trial? You’ve got to be kidding! Most of the NFL booth apes and pud pounding media types have already convicted this guy.

Why do we even need a justice system? Because of people who write the garbage designed from the outset to try this case in the media.

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By Mark

July 18, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

After reading the indictment, it is clear that Vick was involved in dog fighting. Read it, Vick lovers. Let’s see if Arthur can buy Vick’s way out of this one. Vick should be suspended until the trial is over. The Falcons are bad enough without having this inhumane dredge hanging over their heads.

By baloney

July 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

I want to be the first in the paper to say “Tom Brady or Peyton Manning probably would not have been indicted”. You know that is coming, just a matter of when and by whom. Also when Mora senior said Vick was a coach killer he was wrong. Long before allegedly killing dogs he was a receiver killer. Look at all the receivers that have come thru here. Coincidence that none could catch? Or a common denominator that they all had the same QB?

By Saddened Falcons Fan

July 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

It’s unfortunate that one of the founding principles of our judicial system, that anyone charged with a crime (even one as heinous as this) is deemed innocent until PROVEN guilty, seems to not apply to Michael Vick. It’s an even bigger shame that the city of Atlanta (and the South) have come so far in the past 50 years in the fight against racism, but we still have such a long way to go. Perhaps we should all ask ourselves if the hatred and the venom that so many spew in this town towards the Falcons quarterback would be the same if our play caller was a white man. If Vick is guilty of these horrible crimes, then he absolutely should pay the penalty. But until that guilt is determined, all of these small minded, hate filled, ignorant rednecks should crawl back under their white hoods and keep it to yourselves.

By J. Wheeler

July 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

This just goes to show…give an idiot a lot of money and he’s still an idiot…with a lot of money.

By JB

July 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

Blank was the Falcons best hope. A winner in life with money and a Attitude of being the best. He’s trying. Firing coach’s etc….Guess what ? He’s gotta admit a big mistake and move on. It’ll get worse before it gets better. There are guys in that locker room who will stand by Vick, Even if they saw film. The next couple of years will be tough. It will be a house divided until the team weeds out the handful who will have their lip poked out about “THE MAN” taking their MAN out.

By Phil

July 18, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this

I’d like to see Vick gone from the Falcons after all of this, assuming that he is found guilty. In the meantime, he might be facing suspension by the NFL. The Falcons should have kept Schaub, who in my opinion would have been a better QB than Vick anyway, had he played full-time for the Falcons.

By grilleth braums

July 18, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter one bit whether or not he gets convicted. His reputation and credibility are tarnished beyond all repair. He will forever be associated with this.

By warren

July 18, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

Mark, In the list of people whom Vick has let down you omitted the loyal season ticket holder who has endured an increase in ticket prices every year that Vick has been here, hoping for at least a winning season.

By baloney

July 18, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

redoubt, do you realize how stupid your comments are?

By Mark

July 18, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Redoubt Have/can you read the entire indictment?

By Jumbo

July 18, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Innocent until proven guilty? Please! Vick’s name is not just sprinkled here and there in this indictment. It is all over the freakin place! And the feds have a 97% conviction rate when handing down an indictment meaning they don’t waste their time unless there is pretty convincing evidence. I am sickened by this report, not because we will lose a QB. I couldn’t give a rat’s a$$ about that. Think of the short lives these poor poor dogs had and their ultimate fate. Hung? Electrocuted? Shot? Slammed to the ground until dead? Drowned? Oh my G-d, this is just horrifying. I really hate these people with every fiber of my being.

By Diogenes

July 18, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

This has become the proverbial Greek tragedy in many ways — the squandering of talent and riches by Vick, the burning of misplaced trust on the part of Blank, and just the latest blow to a long-suffering fan base that can’t seem to catch a break.

Blank (whom I really feel for) SHOULD either cut or suspend Vick for the season, but probably won’t, because his options are limited. But consider the alternative — protests outside and inside the Dome, inter-fan strife at the games with likely an ugly racial undertone, and loss of enthusiasm particularly from the ticket-buying suburban fan base.

So, will the NFL act instead? It SHOULD, for one simple reason — the NFL MUST take a stand amd make a statement against the growing anti-social, destructive, nihilistic thug-persona lifestyle adopted by too many of its young players. The NLF MUST make a statement that if THAT’S who you want to be and be like, you’re not playing in this League. Only then will the NFL sell a product which all of us can embrace.

By Thomas Cianfrogna

July 18, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

I travel every year from New York to Atlanta to watch a game. This year I have a trip planned for October 15th with a slew of my NY Giant’s friends. I certainly hope Harrington is starting. I WILL NOT support the team with a criminal at QB. Wasn’t his involvement, from the beginning, fairly obvious?

By baloney

July 18, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

redoubt, do you realize how stupid your comments are? The media hyped Vick so much and wanted him to succeed so bad to shed the stigma about a balck QB. They tried the same earlier with McNabb but when he got hurt they hitched their wagon to Vick. WHen it became so obvious he wasn’t going to lead the team anywhere they have dropped him.

By bob flor

July 18, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

There can be no question, both from a business standpoint and a sports perspective, that Michael Vick must be taken from the field.

Since his inception with the Falcons he has been a marginal player at best. At times very exciting to watch, but afterall, he was brought to the team to become a leader as the quarterback. That simply has not happened.

Businesswise he becomes a liability as the pressure continues to mount with the ongoing investigation, hearings, and ensuing trial. His on field performance will unquestionably be challenged. As his performance falls off, so will that of his teammates. And then we go from simply being a losing team to being an embarassment. (Let us not forget the 1998 super bowl fiasco).

From a sports and fan base, Michael has already stuck us in the face with his ego-centric self. His little stunt at the airport and who can forget him throwing his hometown fans the bird. A gentleman, an athlete, role model, team leader, and person with any human decency just doesn’t throw it in your face, as he has done.

Finally, consider that the investigating authorities did not rush to judgement on this one. This indictment has been in the making, with no less than three investigating bodies, for at least three months. There has to be significant data implicating him.

It’s a shame. This town loves football and especially winning teams. We all deserve someone willing to be part of this great team franchise. We’re not looking for Bart Starr or Tom Brady, but a Steve Young, Chris Chandler or Donovan McNabb would be great. Get that kind of man at the helm and everyone else will fall in line behind him. bob

By JJ Morley

July 18, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

The guy is a thug, and this isn’t the first time he’s shown that, it’s only the latest and worst example of his behavior. Suspend him immediately pending the outcome. And if he pleads guilty or is convicted of a felony-level offense, fire him and ban him from football forever.

By Maria

July 18, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

I am in hopes that the authorities will find that Vick is not guilty.

I also hope that people realize that no one is perfect and everyone has made one mistake or another, however foolish.

Sometimes in order for someone to be humble they must weather a storm in order to become the man or woman they are suppose to be.

We have so many issues taking place not only in this city, country but the entire world that should be in the headlines.

Although these are serious charges people lets not forgot the serious matters that are taking place with the war, our troops that want to come home, but have been deployed yet for a 3rd time, the gas prices and profit of the big companies, the people of Hurricane Katrina that are still not being helped, the prostitution of minors in Atlanta, but all over the US, the petifiles, the value of the US dollar in comparison to other countries-where is the US headed, illegal immigration, and the countless other issues that we should be debating and asking the news to debate daily for the people.

By libby

July 18, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

BYE BYE THUG!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT, REVOLTING !!!!!!!

By Northside Fan

July 18, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

This thug/hoodlum has never shown any character and obviously was proficient at filling the air with cheap talk - must be a family trait as his brother has also demonstrated. The gullable Falcon fans just slurped it up!! I still find humor in any Ron Mexico jokes. The Falcons and the NFL need to know that the fans are not interested in watching a bunch of prison thugs make a travesty of the sport. Both need to make a Loud statement and ban him from the game. If I want to watch a bunch if inmates play, I can rent either version of the Longest Yard.

By J

July 18, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

So, with the indictment out there now… and who knows how long it’ll take to play out, but probably through much of the season…will there be protesters picketing stadiums, practice facilities, and team hotels all season long? Will there be news crews camping out in Flowery Branch and in the streets in front of Falcon Players’ homes waiting for team members to stick their heads out of the window for interviews?

Those are a couple of the questions that the Falcons front office will need to contemplate over the next few days / weeks. The embarrassment factor probably will have a lot to do with Michael Vick’s role on the team. If none of this happens, if there are no doggie plush toys being thrown at him in the stadiums, no Saturday Night Live skits, no constant media circus then Vick will surely play until the legal ship runs its course into either conviction / suspension or acquittal.

But if it’s all there, then how can they not say that it’s detrimental to the team?

By VickBeliever

July 18, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

Can we please wait to hear Vick’s side of the story.

By KB

July 18, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

The presumption of innocence only exists to delay the gov. from taking away someone’s liberty. It does not apply to private business owners. Now is the time for Mr. Blank to show what he’s made of. I have always loved watching Vick play. Not only could I never cheer for him again, I would wish the worst for the Falcons as long as they associate with him. I don’t think I’m alone. My sons are with me (my 9 yr old put tape on his jersey to make a “17”). Do the right thing, Mr. Blank.

By warren

July 18, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

To the saddened Falcons Fan: You just couldn’t wait to play the race card could you? I’ve got news for you we’re all saddened but Vick is not being singled out because he is a black quarterback, he is being singled out because there is an 18 page Federal indictment against him for among other things animal cruelty. So the answer to your question is yes. A thug is a thug regardless of skin color. Get over it!

By lovelyliz

July 18, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

I will reserve judgment until the trial, but if convicted Michael Vick deserves the label of thug and cretin.

Dog fighting isn’t even a sport. It’s an illegal event around which illegal activities swirl: animal abuse, drugs/violence, gambling, tax evasion, etc. Sounds like racketeering.

Forget the NFL and the ASPCA, I’d be more worried about IRS.

By Pat

July 18, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Racism is real. Unfortunately for the blind fools defending Vick, it doesn’t apply here. Mr. Martin Luther King’s dream was that some day, black Americans would be judged not by skin color, but rather “the content of their character.” Yet again and again, murderers (OJ), cheats (Bonds), and a gallery of other sports thugs keep getting a pass from some blacks who simply can’t see that their heroes’ behavior has gotten them in the mess - not their skin color. Wake up guys. Defending these jerks just makes a mockery of those who are genuine victims of real racism.

By Redoubt

July 18, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Mark -

An indictment is not a conviction. Anyone can be indicted for any crime if a grand jury feels there is enough evidence to support a trial.

That is the thing here… a trail by a hury of peers. That’s how it’s done in America. If it were trial by media or trial by association or trial by weight of popular opinion, you and I might also be guilty of any of a number of crimes… including speaking our minds…

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By Gene

July 18, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

If Vick did what he is accused of doing in the inditement, he is as sick as the whacko kid who was putting kittens in the microwave. Sports figures are out of control, and these horror stories will only stop when fans withdraw their support. Arthur Blank is just another facilitator. Vick really made a monkey out of him and the whole Falcons’ organization. It is too bad that Kennesaw Mountain Landis is not around to deal with these bums.

By Wendy

July 18, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

To the idiot who thinks the negative reaction is about race, did you happen to see the venom thrown Tom Glavine’s way when he left Atlanta for New York? I couldn’t care less about Michael Vick’s race. Read the indictment. If he was involved on any level, then he deserves ALL of the reaction that he’s getting.

In addition, he is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The court of public opinion has NEVER held such standards. Remember Mr. Rocker? Was he even charged with a crime (not that he didn’t get what he deserved)?

By libby

July 18, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Dear VickBeliever You have heard his side. He said he wasn’t involved. Read the the indictment. It’s pretty descriptive.

By rob

July 18, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

It is amazing that someone this much in the spotlight and this making as much money as he does would be anywhere near something like this. Whether he is guilty or not this is stupid. Just plain stupid.

By ex-vickville

July 18, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this

I have been a Falcons Fan as long as I can remember. And as many of us have, gone down with the ship every other year it seems due to inconsistency and many losing seasons.

When Mike Vick was drafted I was overjoyed. Here I thought the Falcons had drafted the QB of the future that would take us to several playoff appearences and potentially a Super Bowl. Heck, I even adopted the nickname “Vickville” for a online Madden league I was running. Lame, but very catchy…

Vick lived up to mine, and many other Falcons fans expectations by helping take the team to the NFC Championship. (A team Dan Reeves built by the way). Falcons fans could not be happier with how things were going in Atlanta.

Then things seemed to get a bit loose and comfortable. Mike Vick seemed to imagine himself bigger than the team it seems with his off field activity and obviously putting himself in pretty bad company.

I mentioned going down with the ship every other year. I believe it’s time for the Falcons inactivate Mike Vick for the upcoming season for the “Football Clubs” sake. No doubt Mike Vick deserves his day in court. But it will be a circus all season long as long as he takes the field for the Atlanta Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons need to move forward this season without him and take the 14 plus million dollar cap hit in 08 and trade him after this season.

Not a Vick hater here guys. Just a fan who chooses to put the organization first. Time for the club to wash their hands and move forward. Even if it means taking a step or two backwards first.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

vickbeliever Noone will believe what Vick has to say. Read the indictment. His side of the story will be yet another lie.

By Ambrae

July 18, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

I am disgusted by the charges, dogs can’t speak they are defensless and trusting. For any human being to slam a dog into the ground or electricute a dog for not winning a fight is beyond sick. This is typical behavior of people who are mentally unstable and think because they have money they are GODS. I will pray he gets justice, though I would consider justice getting back what he gave, only a coward could harm animals. Doesn’t matter if this guy plays football, his actions should not be overlooked. The fact he could look at the dogs eyes and hear his crys when he was killing them and not feel that it was wrong and continued to do it only proves he is waste of sperm and talent. Again, I will pray he gets what he deserves and moreso that one day he can’t stand to look at himself for what he did to those dogs.

By R

July 18, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

“Perhaps we should all ask ourselves if the hatred and the venom that so many spew in this town towards the Falcons quarterback would be the same if our play caller was a white man.”

Failure to win the super bowl, flipping off the fans, the ron mexico incident….Yep, I would say that the hatred and venom would be the same. What is being missed here is that Vick gets attacked by people because of two things. 1. His actions and failures 2. Being a celebrity I think people that people that cry racism in this situation do not realize that anyone who is famous will have detractors. It’s all a part of the publicity game. Not everyone will love you. As an object in the media working in entertainment (sport is entertainment), Vick is open to be scrutinized. That is the price one pays for celebrity. Race has nothing to do with it. If it does, would someone please explain to me why would all of these racist fans help pay for the salaries of so many minority athletes through watching commericals, buying tickets, buying concessions, and buying memorbillia.

By Redoubt

July 18, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Someone once said, “… all it takes is a mob, partially informed, fully angry and equipped with a rope to make for a good lynching.”

That describes this issue and this mob to a point of certainty.

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By Morris

July 18, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

I’d say he’ll get off with a slap on the wrist like Ray Lewis, but Lewis had the benefit of being prosecuted for homicide by an incompetent local district attorney. For killing dogs poor Vick has to contend with Federal prosecutors and the FBI.

Word to the wise for you young mischief makers out there: Do your killing of any kind right here in Fulton County. Don’t take it elsewhere because it is just going cause you problems in the end.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Now that Michael Vick has been collared by the Feds, he is in the dog-fight of his life. That is Bad Newz for the Atlanta Falcons. In the dog-eat-dog world of public relations, Vick and the NFL will find themselves in the dog-house, and certainly this time, the media will not be muzzled. We all fear the NFL has gone to the dogs, and Commissioner Goodell will not be able to shed his responsibilities. To prove his bark is not worse than his bite, this time he must throw the Fans a bone. We will not accept another dog and pony show for such transgressions, and such players must be kept on a short leash.

By Proud Dawg

July 18, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Just know this, the Feds have a 95% conviction rate. They do not indict unless they have a strong case. Mr. Vick your career is over!

By Alan

July 18, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Thisis NOT a black-and-white issue, and anyone who claims it is is either a liar or stupid or both. Mark Bradley has explained very clearly the meaning of an indictment. Michael Vick has been charged, and - unless some kind of legal settlement is reached - he will have his day(s) in court. Yes, like everyone else (white, black, red, yellow) who is charged, he must be presumed innocent until he has his day(s) in court. Meanwhile, of course, the dreaded “court of public opinion” is wide open for business - and that’s just the way it is in this free country of ours. Especially with celebrities - whatever their race, religion or sexual preference. Eventually the truth will emerge. Why don’t we wait and let it happen? That’s likely what the Falcons and the NFL will do, don’t you think?

By libby

July 18, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

Dear VickBeliever We have heard his side of the story. He said he didn’t do it. Read the indictment. It’s pretty descriptive.

By BuckeyeDave

July 18, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

I find dog fighting to be an absolute abomination!!! Anyone that would do so is nothing more than a piece of cow crap. They are the lowest of the low not worthy of being called a human being! They are Neanderthals, morons who’s brains haven’t developed beyond base functioning. Anyone found to be doing this should be hog tied and thrown in to the middle of the pit and let the dogs exact their own justice!!!

As far as Vick’s in the league is concerned, he should be suspended immediately and made to give this years income to the SPCA and other dog welfare associations.

By deez

July 18, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

I am not from Atlanta and have no loyalty to the falcons, but I was curious to know what you guys think about something -

How would you feel about Dante Culpepper in a Falcons uniform?

By slinger

July 18, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

First off, Maria, “…everyone has made one mistake or another”? Ookie was doing this over a period of several years. That isn’t a one-time mistake-that is a pattern of disgusting behavior. Have you ever owned a dog? How someone could execute a dog in such ways is just sickening. After all of the torture inflicted on those dogs, I find it hillariously ironic that authorities were lead to this crime by the actions of a dog. Vick, get bent!

By Fred

July 18, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Who let the dogs out?

By Murph

July 18, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

I echo your sentiments JB. This is not a black/white thing. For that matter the idea of innocent until proven guilty is out the window. This boils down to the fact that as a Falcon Fan and furthermore a Virginia Tech Alum I am embarrassed for the way Mr. Vick has portrayed himself. The “idea” that he is involved in such a heinous act is enough to make me cringe. My mother told me a long time ago an old adage “perception is 9/10 reality”. Whether or not Mr. Vick is proven to be innocent of these charges or not there is a perception that he is guilty. This is not the kind of attention I want to be showered upon My Falcons and to a lesser extent the Virginia Tech community.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

I was just as excited about Vick coming to Atlanta as anyone else and I supported him from day one but as the seasons wore on I started having more and more doubts about him as a NFL QB. He just couldn’t put it all together for whatever reason. It was one good game followed by another bad game but the worst thing in my eyes was that he would never accept any responsibility for the teams struggles. To a certain extent I could live with that. It’s nothing new to see an athelete that thinks they are above criticism. This I can’t stand though. It’s disgusting. End of story and I don’t see how anyone can defend Vick now. I know he is innocent until proven guilty but the Feds don’t indict people if they don’t have a really good case. Their conviction rate is 95% or better. Also, a Not-Guilty verdict does not mean you are innocent. As far as I am concerned, I will not be supporting the Falcons as long as Vick is under center. Arthur Blank has to know that this WILL affect his pocket book.

By Blaney

July 18, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Mike needs to get on the same legal plan as that Brian Nichols guy who killed all those people down at the courthouse. That way the case will never make it to trial and the taxpayers pick up the tab for his legal fees. Just a nice way for all us to show our appreciation.

By 4-12

July 18, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

4-12….next words from the commish…with the first pick in the 2008 draft the falcons select….???

By Hasavior

July 18, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

MICHAEL VICK

IS NO RAY CARRUTH

NO DUI

NO FIREARM WEAPON CHARGES

NO CHARGE OF MURDER

NO CHARGE OF RAPE

NO CONTRIBUTION TO THE DELINUENCY OF A MINOR

NO MOLESTATION

NO BAR FIGHTS OR STRIP CLUB INCIDENTS

NO DOMESTIC ABUSE

NO CHILD PORN OR CHILD ABUSE/NEGLECT

NO VEHICULAR SPEEDING OR HOMICIDE

I am trying to undertand why the intense heat and hatered for this man.

What has he done so, to cause such an posturing hate and discord with anyone.

What offenses has he done to warrant such impeeding hate?

By Jonny

July 18, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

For those that have little faith in Vick, I’m in partial agreement. Personally, I think this is greatly the fault of Arthur Blank. Blank gave this guy the impetus and encouragement to thug it up. Vick would have behaved far different if he didn’t think he had Daddy Warbucks to bail him out of any situation. What did Blank say? “It’s pretty clear I work for Michael Vick.” I believe that is a direct quote. Blank is a fool for giving that sort of power to an immature and unintelligent man like Vick. And now we see the consequences. Should Vick be fired? Maybe. But only after Blank fires himself.

By reza

July 18, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

If Vick is the role model of our children in this comunity we are in deep truble. Get rid of him immediately.One bad apple could destroy the entie crop.

By BJohnDawg

July 18, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Killing dogs is serious and vile offense. And if true the MVick should be punished.But one has to wonder why the federal government became involved in this mess and why federal charges were bought. And please do not tell me it was because a dog(s) was bought and then carried across state lines. That is a pure BS if someone says that is the reason. Much more serious things have happened across state lines and the feds sit on their collective asses.

I enjoy watching MVick run around NFL defenses, but never thought he is the type of complete QB that can take a team to the SuperBowl and win it.

If MVick indeed did do the things mentioned in the indictment then he needs to be punished by the criminal court system and suspended as well by the NFL.And dont be suprised to see Vick and the Falcons part ways….. But Federal charges still make you wonder.

By Buck

July 18, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Vick is nothing but a thug. It runs in the family. I precict him and his brother will wind up in prison at some time. He is indicative of some of the problems that society does not want to address. Mr. Blank, release Michael Vick immediately and get someone with integrity and a good heart. We don”t need this no character thug on the team.

By villa rica fan

July 18, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

This is a perfect time for Arthur Blank to separate himself from Michael Vick. Vick was only a 7-9 quarterback anyway. Don’t worry about salary cap implications and poor attendance, the Falcons are going to lose money anyway from corporate sponsors if they don’t punish Vick.

By lovelyliz

July 18, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

We’ve heard Vick’s side of the story, what about the dogs’?

By Kirby

July 18, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

The most overrated QB in the NFL is also the most stupid person alive to waste away that kind of money. Second to the title of Most Stupid is his boss and mentor, Blank.

By DisgruntledFan

July 18, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Redoubt, Dont be a moron.
This isnt a race issue. Its just about someone being an idiot much like yourself. Its sad when you cant look past skin color. Vick should be suspended this season whether he is found guilty or not.

By larry

July 18, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Michael Vick is a cruel sadistic individual with football talent. How sad that a role model for the black community has exhibited behavior of a savage barbarian. Always making excuses for these people does not change behavior. Blank and all this Home Depot money cannot buy him out of this one.

By guy

July 18, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

hello hypocrites. did you eat meat today? did you wear leather today? have you ever gone hunting? have you ever bet on a horse race? get off of your moral ant-hill, you animal killers. losing our star QB hurts the falcons. i don’t know why everyone seems to be gloating about it.

By LMH

July 18, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

I am a dog owner and lover. This has nothing to do with race. If Dale Murphy had done this, I would still be sickened. BUT, innocent until proven guilty still applies. We shall see.

By Charlie

July 18, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this

“We will not accept another dog and pony show for such transgressions, and such players must be kept on a short leash.”

Bravo Mark! Best post yet.

By reza

July 18, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

If convicted, Miceal vick should be executed exactly the same way he did to the poor losing dog. Slam on the ground put water on him and elect…. I can not even say it. How could any body be so cruel and discusting.

By chris

July 18, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

As ususal ‘race card’ apologists are viewing this as a black and white issue with Vick as the victim. Those race card sycophants ignore the many African American athletes in professional sports who are idolized (MJ, Shaq, too many to mention) who are not subject to any of the scrutiny M. Vick has brought on him self through thuggery and stupidity. Of course there is ugly racism in our society but those who continually excuse bad behavior as the result of white racism are also a part of the race problem in this country. They have no credibility.

By snellville falcon

July 18, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Whetre Michael Vick is guilty or not, he is in a hard situation as how could he not know what was going on on his property especially when relatives were living there.

The Falcons are in a hard position. Does the team send a loud message and cut him or condone acts of this type and keep him around. And then wait for the next player to mess up.

I expect he will be kept and the fan base harmed. My belief is to send him packing nad see what respect the team gets.

By Akagi

July 18, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

For all those that were obviously miseducated in government schools the concept of “innocent until proven guilty” only applies to the government which must prove someone is guility in a court of law before that person’s life or liberty are deprived. No such standard applies to the public or the media which have no legal power to deprive Vick or anyone else of their life, liberty or property.

And yes, in my view Vick is 100% guilty of the charges and I am under no obligation to consider him innocent until proven guilty.

Please note that the eight members of the 1919 Chicago White Sox that were banned for life by baseball comissioner Kennesaw Mountain Landis were never convicted of anything in a court of law.

By Georgai still racist

July 18, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

It’s not surprising all the WHITE people in Georgia coming out against Vick. They been against him from day one. Georgia is the most RACIST state in America.

By The Truth

July 18, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, YOU IDIOTS. Did the Lakers fire Kobe before he was convicted of Rape? Did Baltimore fire Ray Lewis before he was convicted of Murder? Of course not because people are charged with crimes that they don’t commit everyday. Mike Vick deserves a chance to defend himself before any action should be take by the Falcons. I can’t wait to read your crying responses when he is cleared of any charges. If the Falcons fire Vick before he is proven guilty in the court of law, then i will never support this organization again. But I doubt that happens.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

Knon

Way to keep those racial fires burning!!

By NOT A FALCON FAN

July 18, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

I grew up in Atlanta, moved away long ago, am not a Falcons fan, don’t know all the history, etc with Michael Vick, and really don’t care. What I do know is that he has put himself, the city, the Falcons and the NFL into a place they should never have been, and that the Falcons need to follow the lead of the Chicago Bears handling of Tank Johnson-cut him loose, NOW, because he is a detriment to the city, the team and the league. If he is found innocent, which appears to be a very remote possibility, then he can resume his career with whoever will have him. The simple fact is that he, like Tank Johnson, is a thug, who cannot understand basic behavior norms, and who apparently looks at anyone who accepts his word as simply a “mark”. A thug is a thug, no matter how good an athlete he happens to be. Sports history is filled with examples, Vick is simply the latest.

By Roswell Ed

July 18, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

A jury of his peers. Sorry.

Firing Reeves was a mistake.

Mora tried to treat these guys as buddies. These young men are not your buddies Jim.

It’s like having a child. You want your child to love and respect you and if he likes you it’s a bonus.

By EB

July 18, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

I’m forever amazed at how NFL owners, who are by-and-large very successful businessmen making important personnel decisions daily seem to lose their senses when it comes to athletes. Michael Vick is a thug. Surely Mr. Blank must have had some inkling about his character before he signed him to that HUGE contract. I mean, he’s smart and not going to drop that kind of money without some background research, right? Vick has been a poor investment for Mr. Blank and the Falcons and the returns will only diminish from here. I would think it is time for Mr. Blank to make the smart business decision and cut all affiliations with Mr. Vick. But, as I said earlier, NFL owners don’t always do the smart thing in these cases.

By jeffc

July 18, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Come on people! Racisim-give me a break!!!!!!

The media wanting to sell papers and airtime-yes this is where the problem lies. Calling Vick an idiot at this time, before he has been tried and convicted of anything is idiotic!!!

For the last three months Vick has been tried and found guilty by most of the media. Why? To get our attention, time, and to make $$$. Just two weeks ago the media changed their tune and started reporting that Vick was pretty much out of the woods and asking questions to the public such as “would Vick now change for the good after surviving a close call”. An ESPN NFL insider started reporting this. Yes a very good “football reporter”, but not someone who has much understanding of the legal system. Now the media is pushing the public back in the other direction suggesting his guilt. Guess what? The public is buying. I don’t know if Vick is guilty, and neither does anyone in the media. We don’t even know if this will get to trial, but we must let the legal system run its course. Only then should we judge Mike Vick fairly and publicly!

By Regular Guy

July 18, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with one individual breaking the law. If Vick were white, he would be treated exactly the same. If he were not a celebrity, he would be treated the same. The entire story is just getting more media coverage because he is a celebrity, though. Stop trying to play the race card all the time. It’s a tactic that is getting old.

By A Fan

July 18, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

I am sad to read some of the comments, I’ve read about Vick’s indictment. Then again I’m not because there are so many racist pricks in this world. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. I hope those who have used the word thug loosely understands it isn’t color. True enough I think Vick is crazy for not selling the property once he moved out of Virginia instead of allowing family members and friends to stay on the property. If Vick is guilty he deserves to be put away but UNTIL he’s proven guilty give the man some slack. The white race is so ready to jump on one of ours when someone alleges a black man/women to be guilty of a crime.

By Rose

July 18, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

I am sad to read some of the comments, I’ve read about Vick’s indictment. Then again I’m not because there are so many racist pricks in this world. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. I hope those who have used the word thug loosely understands it isn’t color. True enough I think Vick is crazy for not selling the property once he moved out of Virginia instead of allowing family members and friends to stay on the property. If Vick is guilty he deserves to be put away but UNTIL he’s proven guilty give the man some slack. The white race is so ready to jump on one of ours when someone alleges a black man/women to be guilty of a crime.

By Rose

July 18, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

I am sad to read some of the comments, I’ve read about Vick’s indictment. Then again I’m not because there are so many racist pricks in this world. What happened to innocent until proven guilty. I hope those who have used the word thug loosely understands it isn’t color. True enough I think Vick is crazy for not selling the property once he moved out of Virginia instead of allowing family members and friends to stay on the property. If Vick is guilty he deserves to be put away but UNTIL he’s proven guilty give the man some slack. The white race is so ready to jump on one of ours when someone alleges a black man/women to be guilty of a crime.

By Rose

July 18, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Roswell Ed, are you talking about rednecks?

By Free Vick

July 18, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Replace Mike with Marcus!

By The Truth Comes Out

July 18, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

He is an inhumane non passing poor excuse for a human or a quarterback. Face it Vick lovers your hero is a loser plain and simple. If karma has any justce Vick will be reincarnated as a fire hydrant!

By Regular Guy

July 18, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

No, idiot. Not ALL white people are against Vick. You can ask everyone I know and they know I have been sticking up for him since day 1. I am white. I think he could be the greatest quarterback ever. Will be, though? The bottom line is that there appears to be evidence that he has been breaking the law. Cruelty to animals is against the law; gambling on dogfights is against the law. Plain and simple. If he was involved, he’s going to be punished for it.

By Bushwacker

July 18, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

I think you have it exactly right, the whole good kid impression that was shiwn to the public was all an act, heis now and always has been just another punk thug that had everyone fooled, he’s scum and if he’s convicted I hope he gets the same treatment as the dogs, hose him down and electricute his sorry butt.

By Bushwacker

July 18, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

I think you have it exactly right, the whole good kid impression that was shiwn to the public was all an act, heis now and always has been just another punk thug that had everyone fooled, he’s scum and if he’s convicted I hope he gets the same treatment as the dogs, hose him down and electricute his sorry butt.

By R

July 18, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

The only thing that is making me laugh about this horrible act is that the people who are trying to defend Vick becuase they believe that this charge placed against him is caused by racist Federal Prosectors don’t realize that if the shoe was on the other foot, Vick wouldn’t give a d#mn about them. For all those looking to stop racism, than might I suggest looking for and standing up for real people out in this world that need your support that truly are affected by racism and not multi-million dollar celebrities that can afford to go without your help. Stop wasting your time defending these rich idiots and go out and try to help those that need all the help they can get.

By Georgia still racist

July 18, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

You white people care more about dogs then the Iraqi and Afghan civillians being killed by the American military.

By Birddawg

July 18, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

I said it 2 years ago when he was drafted, but I thought it would come to be not because of Vick legal troubles but because he’s a better QB—-not better athlete—-better QB, than Vick: all this buzz about Culpepper is nuts. Atlanta has a great talent and Petrino/Blank/McKay are fools if they don’t see what they have in DJ Shockley, and DJ Shockley as starter=rear-ends in seats. Mark it down, DJ Shocley is starting for the Birds by the end of the season. If not, it will only be because of the Atlanta Brain Trust’s stupidity.

By Johnnie Cochran

July 18, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

Damn. I sure wish I wasn’t dead.

By Falcon

July 18, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick a potential criminal? Who didn’t see that coming? Michael/Marcus Vick are a bunch of thugs. If Arthur Blank couldn’t see that, what a terrible judge of character. I would be sincerely surprised if Blank didn’t think that something of this nature was bound to happen.

If Blank did know it, then it was all about selling tickets. Either way, Blank is an idiot for sticking with this guy. Yes, he sold tickets, and he could run like hell, but everyone knew that Michael Vick was only good enough to get us to the playoffs.

Whatever happens, I’m just glad that we’ll end up with another QB.

And thank you Arthur Blank for embarrassing the franchise and the city…and yourself.

By Roger

July 18, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Mr. Blank and Falcons officials,

As a former Atlanta resident, football fan and human being, I ask that you consider removing Michael Vick from the team. Although he has not yet been proven guilty, there is more than enough evidence at this point to suggest that he at least condoned - and observed - activities that are not only illegal, but abhorrent and contrary to human decency.

I realize that Vick represents a substantial investment. He is one of the league’s most recognizable faces. His departure would most likely mean a season of rebuilding.

All of these are valid points. However, when compared to animal cruelty that includes electrocution of a dog, none of those points matter. You cannot reconcile the murder of dozens of animals by pointing to the fact that you might lose millions of dollars.

Michael Vick must go. To keep him on the team would condone some of the most repellent animal abuse imaginable. It would signal to children - and adults - everywhere that there are no consequences for wanton cruelty.

It would make the Atlanta Falcons not only a laughingstock. but a symbol of all that’s wrong in professional sports. I have confidence, Mr. Blank, that you don’t want your valued organization to become one of the most reviled sports teams of all time.

Please do the right thing. Cut Michael Vick and show the world that integrity is more important than money.

By grilleth braums

July 18, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Maria, without a doubt, your blog is got to be the most thoughtless and ignorant posting I have ever read in my life! Your logic astounds me. I’m glad that the rest of the citizens of planet Earth think differently.

Now correct me if I’m wrong, but did I read it correctly? Are you really suggesting that Michael Vick should not be held accountable simply because he has been humbled by the experience and because we are all imperfect humans? Regardless of guilt, if you had your way, would you really set him free? Perhaps we should apply your logic to other cases. I’m sure that Ted Bundy and Charles Manson were imperfect and embarrassed by their ordeals, should we have let them go free as well? It’s too late for Bundy, but I think Manson is still alive. We can still right that wrong. How about Hitler? Should we have stopped our Allied assault in Europe simply because Hitler was imperfect and made a few mistakes? Your logic would have led to the termination of even more Jews! Who knows about what kind of men Hitler, Manson, and Bundy could have been if we had simply given them another chance? We should have let them weather their respective storms!

Nice job changing the subject in your last paragraph. The last time I checked, this is a SPORTS blog that you’re writing in. Save your politics for their respective political blogs. And also imagine how you would feel if you came home to discover that YOUR dog was electrocuted, drowned, or viciously beaten to death. Would you be so quick to dismiss the charges then?

By DEANH

July 18, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

I decide 4 months ago with the new coach & the crap going on with Vick, I would sell my season tickets on ebay this year. I sold all seats for all games. Now Vick might not play… Lucky me…

By Bushwacker

July 18, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Also anybody agree with me that considering all the issues prior to the dog fighting that trading Matt Schaub was really a stupid thing to do and Rich McKay should be fired for not making sure the Falcons were protected knowing that something like this was going to happen?

By Akagi

July 18, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Please tell me how a state which is a political entity can be racist? I didn’t know states were sentient. Do you mean the people of Georgia are the most racist? Have you done polling to establish this point? Can you correctly define racism in the first place?

When you state idiotic positions, it makes you look like an idiot. And saying “Georgia is the most racist state” when debating a below average QB’s dog fighting charges makes you look like an idiot.

And if Vick had been wearing orange and blue instead of red and black, he would have been gone years ago. As for trading Vick, there is only one team out there that would take someone like Vick and that is Oakland and they have a top QB now—LSU’s JaMarcus Russell—and he—unlike Vick—is not facing years in Federal prison.

By Overrated

July 18, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

They are going to love Vick in slammer. Better not drop the soap.

By Realist

July 18, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Arthur Blank doesn’t like bad press. So this call is easy. He should release Vick right now. Even if he were to beat the system on these charges, the stench will follow him and the Falcons always. It is clear Michael Vick is involved with Dog Fighting and gambling.Of those involved only he had the money to finance it all (yes, he is innocent until proven guilty in the court system, but the general public doesn’t have to be stupid). Businessman Blank needs to bite the bullet and take the losses and move on. As a player, Michael Vick has created a big question mark as to his ability to learn an offense and develop into a great quarterback. Before this the answer may have been in doubt but now with prison/suspension hanging over his head the balance has swung in favor of getting rid of him. Come on Art your pit bull hasn’t performed to expectation. Just ask Michael what needs to be done.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

A Fan Rose

You say you’ve read ABOUT the indictment, but have/can you actually READ it?

Keep those racial fires burning!!

By cursive

July 18, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Anybody who still supports Vick needs to read all of the 18 pages of the indictment, that is if you can read. After reading, if you still support him you are a cruel, uncaring person that has some serious problems.

By Northside Fan

July 18, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Race issue - give me a break - that stupid morons can even make that agrument amazes me. This is about a unscrupulous, immoral and egocentric maniac out of control. Ookie deserves his day in court and maybe he is innocent and trusted the wrong people or maybe he did participate in the sport not as a casual observer but a vile participant and organnizer. However, we can let the justice system figure that one out. In the meantime, let’s assist his preparation for that grand day in court by banning him from the NFL effective immediately.

I will say that remember Ookie, aka Ron Mexico, did knowly infect a woman with herpes, knowingly (or stupidly) attempted to carry pot onto an airlinea with a hdden compartment in a water bottle, comes from a family where it is acceptable to stomp on another player and in general as demonstrated contempt to the system and process that we all live by. Get the rope out as the outcome is fairly predictable. Guess I am not a good prospect for the jury!

If Blank, the Falcon’s organization, or the NFL does anything to defer an immediate suspension then they can count me out for a long long time.

Get rid of the THUG!!!

By MommaHawg

July 18, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Sloan: Perhaps more people would sign your petition if you would’ve spelled Mr. Blank’s name correctly.

By GA Native

July 18, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

THIS IS NOT ABOUT BLACK!!! I AM SO SICK OF THIS CARD BEING THROWED DOWN EVERY TIME SOMETHING COMES UP INVOLVING A BLACK PERSON!!! THIS IS A CHARACTER ISSUE AND MICHAEL VICK HAS NONE!!! PEOPLE THOUGHT HE ROSE ABOVE HIS UPBRINGING, BUT EVERYTHING THAT’S HAPPENED THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE HERE IN ATLANTA DISPROVES THAT THEORY!!! MR. BLANK, THIS IS ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT YOU DON’T BUILD AN OFFENSE AROUND A QUARTERBACK, YOU DESIGN THE OFFENSE AND PUT THE QUARTERBACK IN THAT CAN EXECUTE IT!!! ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN TO A QUARTERBACK!

By Tommy D

July 18, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Animal Cruelty is Cruelty, Why clean it up? Is this what you want to teach your kids?

By Theedge

July 18, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Vick is innocent until proven guilty. I have said all along I hope he is not only found innocent but is innocent. Even if he is not suspended how can a man facing 6 years for federal charges plus whatever comes up from the local charges focus on football.

If found guilty he deserves what he gets for breaking the law. You don’t like the law then campaign to change it.

And for those calling for DJ please give it up. He is not NFL material he probably won’t survive training camp. Petrino has added a few qb’s to the roster and he can’t carry them all.

Does a person in prison count against the salary cap?

By Mark

July 18, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

rose I think you know what Jeff meant, but you shouldn’t let that bother you unless the shoe fits….

By Akagi

July 18, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

Truth:

Before you start calling people idiots, please try to not prove to the rest of us that you are yourself an idiot. Innocent until proven guilty only applies to the government not to the Falcons or the NFL.

The eight members of the 1919 Chicago White Sox who were accused of betting on the Reds and then throwing the 1919 World Series were found not guility in a court of law. Kennesaw Mountain Landis who was then the comissioner of baseball banned all eight for life. The Falcons or the NFL would be well within their rights to suspend Vick until this is cleared up.

Unless you are the Raiders, you should have a higher standard for your players than “not yet convicted.”

By Rose

July 18, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Mark,

F-you. I understand your a prick.

By atlantanole

July 18, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

I wish Atlanta fans would stop being a Vick apologist. The reason that Manning or Brady would not get indited for something like this is because they are smart enough not to surround themselves with the wrong type of people. Vick’s problem is everybody including Arthur Blank, keeps making excuses for him and he never takes responsibility for himself. And for crying out loud, stop with the race card. He is the highest paid player in the NFL, and for years everyone in the media annointed him as best quarterback ever to play, given his potential. I didnt here that being said about Manning or Brady eary in their careers, that is because they had to earn it. So the race card is bull, go find another excuse! Its about time that Vick was called out and made to be responsible.

By Kat

July 18, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

It is a sad day in Atlanta. We all hoped to make headlines around the country… headlines of a great team and championship seasons by our football team, the Falcons. We all believed we had a stellar quarterback who would lead us there. I am not sad for Vick who has trashed his career here…. I am sad for all the hurt and pain he and his fellow low-lifes caused the dogs. They deserved better. And they now deserve that justice be done for them.

The football term: OFFENSIVE PLAYER, has taken on a new dimension.

By Cairo

July 18, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Mark,

I am “not” one of the “none” of the people who do not look at him the same. I will support him just like people supported Danny Heatley. So ALL of yall that CANNOT wait for the Justice System to do its due diligence are blind and hateful.

By Scott

July 18, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Every person that has responded saying that there is a racist element to Michael Vick being indicted needs to open their eyes. There was enough evidence after an investigation to bring an indictment.

No, Brady and Manning would not have been indicted because they are getting involved with things of this nature. Neither did Doug Williams (Black quarter back and winner of a Super Bowl) or Warren Moon (another black quarterback and member of the Hall of Fame).

If this were a white player getting in trouble there would not be one posting on here that the only reason that player was getting indicted was because he was white. You are all correct that he is still innocent until prove guilty. It’s just a shame that he has put himself in this position to be judged.

By Lex Luthor

July 18, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Redoubt - Go read the conviction!

Georgai still racist - The last white professional athelete to disgrace us was run out of town years ago, or did you forget John Rocker. What’s suprising is that the BLACK community hasn’t come out against Vick. King said something about judging character. Vick = water bottles, the dirty bird, executing dogs, organized crime, willfully spreading STDs, tax evasion, poession of controled substances (the video of him smoking a blunt) Where should we draw the line? Just because you fail to have any standardsdoesn’t mean white Ameirca doesn’t have its standards.

By Disgusted

July 18, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Most serial killers start out by killing/torturing animals and make no mistake—dog fighting is not a “sport”—it’s torture. And even if he wasn’t directly involved, he has blood on his hands. This man is a twisted sadistic sociopath and should be thrown in jail.

By TN Falcon

July 18, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Arthur is about to pay up on a lost bet he made when he let his best true QB (Schaub) go to Texas.

By BuckeyeDave

July 18, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Those of you saying this is all about race need to go back to school and get a proper education! As has been pointed out the concept of “innocent until proven guilty” has nothing to do with PUBLIC OPINION. The real racists on here are those accusing everyone else of being racist!

Oh, Hasavior, you forgot one

YES Dog fighting/animal cruelty.

As for you, guy, I enjoyed my steak last night with my 2 dogs and 1 cat sitting right beside me. :D Before you call anyone else a hypocrite, you best look in the mirror and remember the old saying that “when you point a finger at someone else, 4 others are pointing right back at you.”

By DE Falcon Fan

July 18, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

First, I hate to admit but the facts are so moving it hurts to look at them. I am a Falcons fan. I have been since I was 7, ironically. I am hurt that the organization that I put so much into following is being hurt by this situation.

We may never know the whole truth of it, but it is apparent that nothing will be the same ever again. Vick, whether guilty or innocent will have this over head for the rest of his life. If he is not convicted, people will say he bought his way out. If he is convicted, some will say he was hit so hard because of who he is in the public eye.

Regardless of the situation, a negative tone will be present with team as well. If they release him, they judged him too quickly and he is innocent until proven guilty. If they back him, it is protecting an investment.

How about we all look at it as people. The fact that dog fighting occurs is wrong. The fact that Vick was linked to it is very bad for him and the team. Anyone interested in that type of activity should go to jail. I do not care who you are.
I am trying to keep an open mind in regards to Vick. I have been in situations where others have dropped my name to help themselves. Vick is the ultimate name to drop. On the other hand, he could be up to his eyeballs in wagering and fighting dogs. That thought alone infuriates me.

So, here I sit at work. My thoughts of fantast football and this weekend’s golf outing falling away into oblivion. They are turning into a battle of whether I burn my #7 jersey or give him the benefit of the doubt. There is only so much giving a person has in them, and from insulting the fans with hand gestures to carrying water bottles with hidden compartments, my allotment for Vick is running thin.

I hate the fact that I can feel myself turning on him, but the reality of the situation is what it is. He has been involved in too many little things to think he is perfect. I did not think he was cap[able of this, but who knows. I know that Vick is no angel, but whether he is a devil or not I have yet to decide. I hope we can all try to control our emotions until the truth be told, or at least the truth we will know.

By Chg

July 18, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Anyone who didn’t know “the real Michael Vick” before this indictment came out is either an idiot or self delusional.

You wanted him to be a good person so you could feel good about cheering for him when he led your football team, so you ignored numerous indicators that he was a complete loser blessed with supreme athletic ability.

Not only were there the numerous public indiscretions, but a multitude of stories of encounters with Vick and his posse around town have circulated throughout Atlanta since his arrival that didn’t necessarily indicate criminal behavior, but certainly indicated poor character.

If Michael Vick didn’t run a 4.3, he would have been in jail long ago.

By fred

July 18, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

when will black people stop being racist and realize that vick is a criminal?

By Mark

July 18, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Rose www.dictionary.com

By dan

July 18, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick, or Ron Mexico, or whoever you are, one thing we know for sure is what a worthless pile of sh*t you are, and you’re a waste of a human being. Let’s throw you in a pit with a bunch of angry pit bulls. I’d even wager on that one, and I’m not a gambling man. You deserve the same fate as those dogs. Burn in haitis you frickin’ a-hole. And yes, I AM black. Please, nobody emabarass me by using the race card.

By NFC South Fan

July 18, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this

C’mon, guys…GET YOUR DANG HEADS OUT OF THE SAND!!! Vick is a thug and a common street hood from the projects that thinks that the world he grew up in is reality. Worse yet, he still embraces it! Shame on Falcon Ownership for putting business before ethics. Look at New Orlenas, Carolina (especially lately!), and Tampa Bay. You don’t see this kind of crap anywhere except where Vick is! Everyone touted his brother as “better than Mike”…I guess they got it right! Maruc is at leatst CONVICETD of a crime, but Mike’s trying hard to catch up.

I’m betting this - the league and the Falcons, after much hand-wringing, wil suspend Vick until the indictment and trial clouds are gone. Vick will file a grievance to still play while this is going on. The Union will lose, as will Vick in court. THEN, they’ll throw his but in a federal pen where he can be with his “Bad Newz”-aligned thug breatheren where they can infect each other’s anal cavities with Herpes, stomp on one anothers’ faces, and smoke a little pot for good measure.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

Georgia still Racist “You white people care more about dogs then the poor people left stranded by Hurricane Katrina.”

Yeah. And your point?

By TOM N.

July 18, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

This is one disgusting human being,and one disgusting family,do not forget MARCUS.Good luck coach petrino,i guess your dream nfl job does not look so great now.

By Richard

July 18, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

It is curious that so many people confuse the principle of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law (governed by rules of evidence and process) with real life where the standards of belief and guilt are not the same. It simply means that in court the crime must be proven, rather than one’s innocence must be proven, to convict. It does not mean that all other social, public and work associations must be based on the same assumptions and tests. Vick’s resume now includes illegal interstate gambling, as well as the other sordid offenses. Who would now hire and rely on this guy for such a prominent and public role? The Falcons must suspend Vick, at the least.

By Lithoman

July 18, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

well no matter what comes from all this,the Falcons wont be in the playoffs this year,what else is new?

By Georgia still racist

July 18, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Lex Luthor…Over 600,000 Iraqi civiillians killed. Over 3,000 American troops killed. Over 40,000 American troops wounded. Coalition troops killed. Journalists killed. All for a lie. This is White Amercia standards, George W. Bush, a real high character guy.

By Rose

July 18, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Bold: Thank you DE Falcon Fan, you said it better than any comments I’ve read.

I am signing off because I refuse to continue allowing a forum (comments) for a bunch of jackass racist to comment on.

By patfan

July 18, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Sure vick has just been indicted and has not be tried but he still held accountable for what was going on on his property…the house was in his name and the average joe would be tried since everything was in his name

By Nunna Yo Biznezz

July 18, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

HEY MIKE..I GOT YOUR BACK..

I KNOW THE FEDS ARE TURNING PEOPLE WHOM ARE ALREADY IN TROUBLE,IN JAIL,OR GOING TO JAIL TO SAY THAT THEY SAW U AT DOG FIGHTS AND THAT U EXECUTED DOGS AS WELL..THEY DON’T ASK THE QUESTION OF WHY WOULD A MILLIONAIRE WANT TO EARN CHUMP CHANGE FIGHTING DOGS??

I BELIEVE IN YOU,AND EVEN IF U GET SUSPENDED JUST FOR U GOING THRU THIS ON BEING INDICTED,I HOPE U LEARN YOUR LESSONS ON WHO U CALL YOUR FRIENDS..AND THAT U RETURN AND PLAY FOR THE FALCONS!!!!!!!

MIKE VICK IS INNOCENT,AND WILL BEAT THIS CASE..MARK MY WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By emplaw

July 18, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Forget the petition. There are laws that protect employees from wanton firing, particularly when Vick may be “able to perform” in 2007. Unless the prosecutors are Saints, Panthers or Bucs fans, it is unlikely this will come to trial until February 2008.

That being said, I’m sure the Falcons are looking at any morals clauses in his contract. However, if they attempt to act before a guilty verdict, they are still leaving themselves open to a law suit. There is also a pattern where Falcons officials have looked the other way on STDs etc. so to go after him now might appear malicious.

By chrisd

July 18, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Im not downplaying what vick has done because obviously it is very sick and dimented and if found guilty he should be punished. with that being said Vick has been a losing qb for what all of 2 seasons including the one where he missed all but the last 4 games. also love him or hate him your eyes are glued to the television when hes on the field. I should know, I live in wisconsin and im obsessed with watching this guy play football. Hes done a lot for that organization; publicity, successs, excitement. So I guess what im saying is if these chrages rally disgust you then yes hate vick all u want, but those of you who just havent appreciated him from the moment he stepped on the field and now have a reason to truly hate him………. shut ur trap. I believe he probably will be found guilty but i doubt he’ll go to jail. but i think he should continue to play until it is found in the court of law without reasonable doubt that he is guilty. And if he does take you guys to the playoffs again, you fans will probably be singing a different tune

By Mark

July 18, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

See ya rose

Don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya…..

By Robert

July 18, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Racism, is every black accused of a crime innocent, right is right, wrong is wrong.No matter the color, crime happens.Deal with it and live with it.I hate to see a man with Mike Vicks potential throw it all away.

By Mark Bradley

July 18, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Can I just say something here? This is a specific indictment brought against four specific individuals. It’s not an indictment of any demographic group, nor should it be taken as one. I know nobody will pay any attention to me, but I get really tired of any discussion involving Michael Vick turning into something else. Aren’t we beyond that?

By O.J. Simpson

July 18, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Now maybe I’ll get a break. Anybody know if they are still making those “Police Squad” movies?

By Tommy Maddox

July 18, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Looks like my choice was correct for another year of season tickets - I opted to pass this year.

Take a look at our record for the past couple of years with MV at the helm. We are around 50/50. I think we ought to see what happens if the team goes with any of the other quarterbacks in the stable. I doubt the record would be any worse - and it might even be better. If DJ got in there, the UGA folks would come unglued and overflow the Dome.

So, whatever happens with the criminal process, I think the Falcons should give the other QBs a chance to shine.

By Lex Luthor

July 18, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

Georgia still Racist — Why should we care about the people shooting at the WHITE people trying to resuce them in NO?

FEMA responded to Katrina two days faster than Andrew. FEMA failed to respond to Hugo in any timely manner.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fema#Responsetomajor_disasters

Get you facts strait. Then pull you head out of your butt.

By Sicem

July 18, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

The Truth Hurts but must be accepted. He did it, he is going to be suspended for it and he going to jail because of it. He also deserves whatever happens to him and people with IQ’s realize this. I hope he gets reincarnated as a fire hydrant! Dont drop the soap Ookie! HA ha ha !

By Mark

July 18, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

* Nunna Yo Biznezz *

And I’m hung like Mr. Ed…

“I got your back”?? LOL

By David

July 18, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

jeff, above, and perhaps “David Duke,” have demonstrated amply what an actual racist comment looks like. I think most others should be given the benefit of the doubt.

By Jim Moron

July 18, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Bring Mora Back. He’s Our Only Savior Now

By David Duke

July 18, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Oh, please Rose, don’t go! We love laughing at yo dumb a*. Only a country neega, such as yourself, could provide such a high entertainment value with such a low intelligence level. GSR, what makes you think Georgia is a racist state? Look around crack head! You’re not real popular anywhere!

By Roz

July 18, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is such a disappointment to those who counted on him to do the right thing. It’s not about racism, it’s about breaking the law. Vick will see the real “pit bulls” in Richmond — the Federal prosecutors!!!

By THANK GOD I WAS NEVER A FALCONS FAN

July 18, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

First of all, animal cruelty is a sure sign of sociopathy. GW Bush abused animals when he was young, and it is pretty obvious that he is a sociopath, just like Michael Vick. Sociopaths such as Michael Vick and GW Bush belong in isolated cells, removed from humanity (aka “prison”).

Second, Vick has been indicted on these charges not because he is Black, but because there is an overwhelming amount of evidence that he was associated with this interstate “dog fighting ring”. I bolded the word “interstate” because that is very important as to why the Federal Government is involved. The Federal Government deals in interstate crime, and they are not the sometimes incompetent local prosecutors you hear about on TV. You rarely encounter Federal prosecutors that don’t “get their man”, they are the best of the best, and, like it or not, the system under which they work is tilted in the favor of the prosecutor, whereas state-level trials are often times tilted in favor of the defense. Remember this, future criminals: if you are going to commit a crime, make sure it is something that will never be tried by the Federal prosecutors.

Finally, Michael Vick should never play in the NFL ever again, and I doubt he will. If Arthur Blank isn’t smart enough to know the liability of having an employee like Michael Vick, Goodell does, and, remember, Michael Vick is an employee of the NFL, and they can fire him at any time, whether Arthur Blank likes it or not.

As for the “racist” chant that is surrounding this indictment, don’t even think for a second that there are “racists” lurking in the Federal DA’s office, as you would imagine in Podunk County, Georgia’s sheriff office. These prosecutors are entirely too “politically correct”, intelligent, and professional to be “racist”. They are like prosecuting robots, squeaky clean and stern and all about business.

By judy

July 18, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

all of this came into effect after Schaub was let go by the Falcons. This comes about after 6 yeARS GIVE ME A BREAK.

By judy

July 18, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

all of this came into effect after Schaub was let go by the Falcons. This comes about after 6 yeARS GIVE ME A BREAK.

By Jack

July 18, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Faced with a public relations catastrophe of nuclear proportions, he is foolish if he does not immediately suspend Vick for conduct that is too distracting the team. If he doesn’t, we will see a circus of emotional, angry and sadly, violent, backlash that will harm every player, every sponsor, every fan and every citizen. There’s in no avoiding it. Vick is Mr. Blank’s Iraq, Imus, the Love Canal and Chernobyl all rolled into one PR timebomb.

By Theresa

July 18, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

DOWN WITH VICK!!!!!

By outsider looking in

July 18, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

It is not like Vick and the Falcons have been more than a middle of the pack team the past few season anyway. Vick got caught; celebrities and sports figures get caught everyday breaking the law. Average people do to. Don’t really care if he stays or goes anymore - Vick is not going to win a Super Bowl anyway. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning are a class ahead of this man both on the field and off.

By gtpi

July 18, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

to boloney an all those that use the race card…. you folks need to start taking responsibiltiy for your lifes and stop blaming the white man. times have changed. ask martin luther king jr’s son what he things…. he thinks that this race card is an excuse to fail. make the wrong choices an get put in prison and its the white mans fault. dont get an education and its the white mans fault. grow up already sheeeesh.

lets look at michael vick and his brother for a moment…..

brother got arrested for drinking drug use and for having sex with underaged girls. according to him he was innocent of course. isnt he the same guy who tried to kick the face in of a downed football player in front of millions of people? guess the kicked the wrong guy of the virginia tech team oh my.

meanwhile michael gives his ex girl friend herpes which he denied doing and than settled out of court. what a great guy this person is.

he gives his loyal fans the finger. the same fans (both BLACK and white) that make it possible for him to have a 130 million dollar contract. sorry … yes but was he really sorry or just mouthing the words.

than he blames his teammaste for yet another poor season. yes michael you never do wrong…. your such a leader michael.

gets stopped in an airport for carryin supposed mj? no problem. the video tape and any evidence is mistakenly destroyed. can we score that as another vick tory for the money man?

and now…..

we get the indictment. the charges in the indictment are made by the fbi. NOT some po dunk country police deptarment. last time i looked i saw both blacks and whites on the investigating team. obviously he was indicted because he is black… NOT. i guess this means that blacks never commit crimes and are always victims of another white man’s conspiracy.

honestly… that kind of thinking reminds me of the child that got caught doing wrong. when are the folks in the black community going to grow up and learn to take responsibility for your own actions for christ’s sake.

the crimes in the indictment are the same kinds of things that jeffery dahmer and wayne gacey did as children before they became prolific serial killers. these were men of NO conscious and may i remind folks they were white.

if vick had never been in trouble…. if he had not been involved in the above… if he had never hung out with the wrong crowd…. if he didnt have a thug for a brother than i would be more inclined to believe him.

unfortunaely if he walks like a thug and lies like a thug than he is probably a thug.

a thug that does not value a defenseless animals life nor even his ex gf’s health over his own enjoyement. makes me wonder what he has done that he HASNT been caught at?????

if he is convicted the sectence they quote is not stiff enough.

if he goes to jail. i hope that they use a rape chair on him just like he did with the puppies that trusted him.

By Georgia still Racist

July 18, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

You white people care more about dogs then the widening gap between the rich and the poor in this country.

You white people care more about dogs then uninsured poor Americans getting healthcare.

This country was founded on racism and discrimination (no rights for women and black people, an American Indian was 3/4 of a person)

Nothing has changed.

Georgia is the most racist state in this country and the White people here are proud of it.

By jc_atl

July 18, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Under the rule of law Michael Vick is innocent until proven guilty. That said the indictment, brought by federal prosecutors with a 95% conviction rate, is devastating both to Vick as a public persona and to fans who’ve weathered his inconsistent play for several years now. The indictment portrays him not as the witless owner of a house whose cousin misused the property without his knowledge, but the financier and willing and equal partner of an organized criminal enterprise that began when Vick was a rookie and continued into this year. The brutality described in the indictment should make anyone with a heart shudder. There is no place for Michael Vick in this city, in a Falcons uniform and certainly not on the field of play. I’ve already decided that I will forfeit my season tickets if Michael Vick is allowed to play this season.

By ChampDawg

July 18, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Here comes the race card. You can count on it every single time. A black man is never responsible for his own actions. Hey, maybe MV can buy his way out of jail just like OJ did. MV is innocent until proven guilty. Let the courts handle that business. But the team needs to move on and prepare for the season. You can’t be on the field and in court at the same time. That’s not racist, that’s common sense.

By JR

July 18, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

The conviction rate for the Federal Government is 98% folks, they do not press charges unless they are true. Black or White. So all of you that think this ia a racial issue is just fooling themselves and hiding behind their color as an excuse. I would not care if MV7 was purple he is less than a human and the Falcons should cut MV7 today and start Shockley, he will be nothing more than a cancer if left on the team.

By Don Imus

July 18, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

Hey Maria you left wing idiot. What is a petifile? LMAO, geezus.

All you idiot Vick lovers, the truth is out. No more trying to explain his ghetto behavior away as innocent mistakes. The guy is a scum for killing helpless animals. I hate him and anyone else that does that.

MR. BLANK, YOU WILL NOT SEE MY BUTT IN A SEAT AGAIN AT THE DOME TILL THIS SCUMBAG IS GONE. GOT IT?

By Mike Kenn Rules

July 18, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

You hate to see the accusations against our Football savior. But it seems appropriate that it happens to the Falcon’s franchise. We have never been able to bring it all together during our entire franchise history. We have seen the Falcons come close to breaking through our reputation as losers, just to watch disappear quickly. Our draft classes have been horrible most of the time, we get to the Super Bowl only to be embarrassed by the Eugene Robinson and hooker incident. The team is looking strong, then we lose Anderson to two new injuries. Finally, we catch a break and draft Michael Vick. The most breath taking football player alive, who could forget his scramble in Minnesota. The most amazing thing I have ever seen outside of Bo Jackson’s run against Seattle. Today, just when our future looks bright again(after getting ride of Mora-n and Knapp), we have another black eye due to accusations of Mike Vick. We all hope for a good outcome, but I think all of Falcon fans know to expect the worst(history has proven so). Once again we await the Falcons to win, but it sounds like most of us just cant take it anymore.

By jrock

July 18, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Dog fighting Wrong Americans innocent until proven guilty True….sometimes Media verdict of Vick before trial Guilty. Ok fine…I accept that but….

Just wondering…any of you southerners who despise dogfighting ever have a BBQ sandwich or a nice hot steak, maybe some ribs or a nice fat chicken sandwich? Ever been to a slaugter house for pigs and cows? Ever been to the “Humane Society” I don’t condone animal cruelty but I do know how some animals are slaugtered for food. Why is that acceptable. Shouldn’t they be convicted too? Just wondering….?

By judith

July 18, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

“We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.” Immanuel Kent. I think that quote just about sums it up for Michael Vick.

By dwy

July 18, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

Kobe Bryant, Ray Lewis, The Duke Players

IF BLANK FIRES VICK BEFORE HE IS CONVICTED IT WILL BE A DUMB MOVE. AND I WILL NEVER SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION AGAIN.

By Don

July 18, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Didn’t the government convince some that Iraq destroyed the building in New York? Didn’t they convince some that a “mushroom cloud” was coming to Atlanta? This zest against Vick seems similar to the zest that got us into this Iraq mess. The point being wait before passing judgement. The government lately has not been very good at being the Truth Police. Remember Lacrosse and Duke.

By ChampDawg

July 18, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

MV is innocent until proven guilty. Period. But, when and if MV is found guilty of these charges, will the black community and leadership then come out and condemn his actions. Or will they continue to just play the race card and say MV was a victim? Who are the real racists here?

By outsider looking in

July 18, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

Mybe we need to get Gary Sheffield’s opinion on this matter!

By Jakester

July 18, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

It seems that Ron Mexico will forever be trying to rid himself of the skeletons in his closet, or was it jewelry in the water bottle?

Falcons need to suspend him, not without pay, until this episode is over. They will never get anything done in camp unless they do.

By Dog Lover

July 18, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

When this patheitc individual meets his maker I hope and pray instead of going to hell he is thrown in the den with the animals he tortured and killed so they may feast on him!

By wilkun

July 18, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Race isn’t the point. If indeed the charges are true, it’s a sick, sorry man who delights in the torture of animals. Anyone guilty of that isn’t deserving of anything but contempt, regardless of his 40 time. Some folks here need to learn when to let go of blind loyalty. It’s usually long before you hear tales of strangling and electrocuting animals.

By fin

July 18, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Ok, for all you hungry racist fanatics out there guess what, you still have to wait for the court ruling, and once it’s ruled he is innocent it’s ok to suck his butt when you go to your private suite or boxes cheering your ashes off with your little ones wearing # 7

By Mike

July 18, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Enough about Vick. His goose is cooked. It’s time to focus on DJ and Harrington now. One of those two will be leading us in battle this year.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

jrock What a weak comparison. Is that all you got? Killing innocent dogs just because they don’t “perform” is not comparable to slaughtering pigs and cows for food. What a moron!

By who cares

July 18, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Georgia, it is not the place of Gov’t to eliminate poverty. Want to eliminate poverty? Get a job! We need to convict people of crimes, not deal with a BLACK social issue. It is a BLACK problem, not a White or Gov’t problem. The other poster was right. Blacks blame everyone but themselves. The country was not founded on Racism, it was founded on hard work-something that blacks don’t want to do-get up in the AM and WORK, They want entitlements. If you are tired of the so called racism-go back to africa where they are giving 40 acres, a mule and a former white family’s house to any black person that wnats to become an african citizen. BTW-check your US Citizen ship at the trash can when you leave! Vick is a thug! Now, since the black U in NC convicted the Duke Lacrosse team, I say it is fair play. GO to Jail Vick! See you in 6 yrs if they don’t fry your butt!

By Linda

July 18, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Its not racism, its about animals, poor, defenseless animals. Hurt animals or babies and face the wrath of good people everywhere. I am going to burn our Vick jersey this Sat and take pix. I now hate this cowardly, ignorant piece of trash. I hope he rots in hell. Save a doggie, electrocute Michael Vick!!!!

By josh

July 18, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

it is every bit as racist to defend him purely based on his race as it is to vilify him purely based on his race.

By 59bulldawg

July 18, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

I just don’t get it! Even if you can get by the morality issue involved in dog fighting, why would someone with his money want to do it. I mean for what Blank is paying him, not to mention his endorsements, we’re talking chump change. And from what I’ve read, hell, he wasn’t even good at it. What a “Gangsta Wannabe”! What a complete fool! I hope planning for the “post Vick” era begins today and I hope they give DJ the chance he deserves.

By BK

July 18, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

A great leader in the hip-hop community once put out a multi-million selling album exclaiming our youth to ‘Get Rich or Die Trying’ It’s awful that so many young people see this as a legitimate way to contribute to society. They’d rather stay true to their mis-guided heros (Vic included) with false pride instead of doing the right thing and being a contributing member of this city/state/nation/world. I say they’ve made their bed, now they have to lay in it. Sweet dreams Mike.

By BK

July 18, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

A great leader in the hip-hop community once put out a multi-million selling album exclaiming our youth to ‘Get Rich or Die Trying’ It’s awful that so many young people see this as a legitimate way to contribute to society. They’d rather stay true to their mis-guided heros (Vic included) with false pride instead of doing the right thing and being a contributing member of this city/state/nation/world. I say they’ve made their bed, now they have to lay in it. Sweet dreams Mike.

By gtpi

July 18, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

to Nunna Yo Biznezz

‘WHY WOULD A MILLIONAIRE FIGHT DOGS TO EARN CHUMP CHANGE’ you ask??????

maybe because he enjoyed the brutality. maybe he enjoyed the blood. maybe he enjoyed hanging with his gang.

do you have any sense what-so-ever?????

By Larry Wilson

July 18, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

Put the porch monkey in prison!!!!

By righton!

July 18, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

ChampDawg is right. When are the RACIST Black people gonna apologize for the Duke case? How about speaking ut against Jackson and Sharpton? Tawana Brawley? So, black people and GA-SHUT the hell up about race and clean up your own social mess! Vick is GUILTY and he is gonna fry. Kenfunky fried Vicken!

By bk

July 18, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

What else do you expect from the thug nation? As they pump ‘Get Rich or Die Trying’ in their cars & ipods. Mike and all the rest who would rather ‘stay true’ to get some sick mis-guided street cred than do the right thing and play by the rules, they’ll have to lay in the bed they’ve made for themselves. Sweet dreams Mike. You’re making it too easy for all your critics.

By G Spot

July 18, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Hey, “Guy”…I’ll type s-l-o-w-l-y so whoever has to read this to you can do so easily. Did I eat meat today? I sure did. And guess what? I did not break any laws because it is legal. Did I wear leather today? No..it is 95%. But if I had, guess what? It is not illegal. Have I ever gone hunting? Nope…I hate it. No interest in betting horses either. Guy, what you don’t seem to process is that there is a difference in animals that are raised for food and clothing, etc. and “DOMESTICATED” animals (have your mom look that up in the dictionary so you can undersand it). Bottom line, idiot, is that none of those other things are AGAINST THE LAW, and Vick’s alleged activites ARE. Try to keep up, low watt!

By Ghost of Cochran

July 18, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

If the facts don’t fit, you must acquit. In the indictment, the last cw (snitch,rat,mole???)testimony places MV7 at a actual fight is in April/04. Now if at the end of that fight MV7 said to the bunch “I know longer want to participate in this activity. I’ve just sign a huge extension and I don’t want to jeopardize it”. Did MV7 withdraw from the conspiracy? The next time MV7 is reported at the house is April/07. If at that time MV7 was there because he had discovered the activity he previously withdrew from was continuing and was only there to personally insure the activity was to stop, is MV7 further removed from the conspiracy? See in 04/04 MV7 violated the law. But the statue of limitations has run on that violation. So in order to convict him for behavior that was illegel, the government implies that the agreement to engage in that illegal conduct continues. But the only actual evidence, i.e. testimony from cw’s, is for actions for which the statue of limitations has run. Curious………..

By JD

July 18, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Time to break out the Ron Mexico jerseys.

By KenFromCalifornia

July 18, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

john rocker - never convicted of a crime, but what did the court of public opinion have to say about him?

michael vick will have his day in court on these criminal charges, but you can best believe that the i.r.s. is waiting in the wings.

and for those of you who cry racism, last time i checked, the i.r.s. went after a lot famous rich white people and put them in jail. heck, just ask pete rose about that one.

By Kirby

July 18, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Come on people we’re talking Vick here, it’s not like we are wanting remove a QB that can actually hit a receiver with a pass. So Vick killed dogs that didn’t perform well in the fighting ring? How many times would he be killed if that ruled applied to his worthless, sorry passing stats? Folks, get a new hero, this one is prison bound and no other NFL team will touch him. Bring him on the field and see what happens, I dare you.

By Kirby

July 18, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

Come on people we’re talking Vick here, it’s not like we are wanting remove a QB that can actually hit a receiver with a pass. So Vick killed dogs that didn’t perform well in the fighting ring? How many times would he be killed if that ruled applied to his worthless, sorry passing stats? Folks, get a new hero, this one is prison bound and no other NFL team will touch him. Bring him on the field and see what happens, I dare you.

By willdave

July 18, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

The Falcons should conduct their own investigation right now. If their investigation cannot convince them that Vick is innocent of these very serious charges, they should release him immediately without waiting for the outcome of the federal trial. These charges hanging over Vick will be too distracting for a team that desperately needs to improve from its mediocre records over the past two seasons. Moreover, regardless of the outcome of this trial, Vick has continually conducted himself in a manner that draws negative publicity to himself and to the team. He definitely is not the type of person that a professional sports team should want to promote as its leader or “face” to the community.

And my opinion would be the same if Vick were white, brown, red or yellow.

By The vet

July 18, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

“I’m sorry sir, but we have to put this n**** down”

By Austin Bailey

July 18, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

Thats right people keep the hate coming. Hate to beat a dead horse but humm? Duke and Kobe Bryant. There was substantial evidence against them and look what happened. Im a self procalimed Vick hugger and proud of it in fact i only became a Falcons fan becasue of him but hearing all of the hate from Gerogians makes me ill. I live in OMaha,NE by the way i even get to a few Falcons games. For those of you who say you wont support this team if he plays this season. Please contact me through the message board bailey7466 i’ll gladly take some of those tickets off your hands. Innocent until proven guilty, anyone heard of that. Even if he is the animal he claims to be shouldn’t we pray for him to change his ways instead of digging his grave. Public opinion is out of control in this country. Public opinion hasn’t ended the war in Iraq so why should it end his career. GOD BLESS YOU MIKE VICK JUST ASK HIM FOR FORGIVENESS AND NOT REDNECK FANS OR THE UNCLE TOM PERSUASION.

By joe

July 18, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Blanks last chance to cut the wire .. immediately release him .. execute the contract to get back whatever money you’re allowed to get for conduct detrimental to the team .. suffer the salary cap results .. make the best of this year and draft a QB next year year .. if the loyal Vick fan base defects, they’ll be replaced by many atlantans that despised him .. I’ll gain pleasure of now being able to root for my home team, instead of watching him show his lack of NFL ability on and off the field

By Johnny Cochran's Ghost

July 18, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

I’m coming to help, Mike.. If the dog ain’t bit, we’ll get an acquit… I’m coming, Mike… I’ll be riding Caleb King’s moped.. Vroooooooooooooooooom.

By rlynn

July 18, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Hey “By guy” and “jrock” what do you want? Dog hangings and and a little slaughterhouse medley for the Half-Time Show? Dog Killer is a jerk, a person of low degree, and a mediocre QB. Surely every contract contains a “morals clause” and I would suggest using it. Just how big a contract do you think Dog Killer can get anywhere else? This is Atlanta’s chance to cut their losses.

By G Spot

July 18, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Roger; what did you mean when you said you are a former human being?

By DOGS

July 18, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Vick might be gone but I don’t have to buy a PAPER from AJC. Vick MAY have done wrong but AJC has dong wrong to . They got what they have been pushing for . Vick has let a lot of us down, If it is true. He must go to court first. AJC, ESPN all have hurt our team . You can say it the law. we have another player that has dog problem but it’s not in the paper like this. This is america and race is all over this thing if you are for Vick are not . and to say it’s not it’s not about race you are a lie and the truth is not in you. read the sport news most are white guys and they push there points of view. Not all are bad and they stick to sports. But a lot of them push there agenda and that a real problem. AJC needs a lot of new blood you are to full of hate!

By ashamed

July 18, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

I AM a young black male the same age as Vick. I love him as a football player and in the past came to his defense when he was attacked in the media and other individuals who may or may have not liked him because he was a black qb.

However this has gone way too far with Vick. everyone commits some sort of crime now and then, but 150 million and you are dumb enough to GAMBLE on killing dogs? TOO MUCH, TOO MUCH.

its sad for us lifelong falcons supporters that we have to witness our team sink so low all the time. I am literally sick to my stomach that a young black man such as myself will throw a GOLDEN once in a lifetime opportunity away for something so stupid and horrible. What a F**king dummy.

By Mike Kenn Rules

July 18, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Unbelievable, this race stuff has me sick to my stomach. Any issue in the city of Atlanta or the state of Georgia, always has to be white or black. We are talking about a dang football player at the moment and someone claims the race card. Then we are back in the middle of the civil rights movement. Plain and simple we are talking about a millionaire athlete. Lets do a comparison of white/black athletes in Georgia: -Dale Murphy- good ball player on a losing team, but a quality individual. -Ty Cobb- great baseball player, miserable human being that has his own place in hell. -Rocker- Piece of Trash -Herschel Walker- great college football player, average pro, great guy, -DJ Shockley-Good Football player, the most visiable 3rd string QB in the NFL. The kid is always doing charity. -Dominique-Greatest player in Atlanta Hawks history, great for atlanta. Most beloved player/person in Atlanta history.

The issue is not race, its the way a man or woman represents themselves and holds themselves accountable for his or her actions. But we will make this about race because its Atlanta’s favorite past time.

By DOGS

July 18, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

They want a white face to lead the falcon that’s what this is all about with AJC and the hater- 6-10 forever! AJC you got what you have been pushing for!

By Lee

July 18, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

All along I believed Michael was the Falcon’s savior and that his brother was an idot. Now I know idocy runs in the family.

By sucka free sports fan

July 18, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

**I CAN HEAR IT NOW. IF MIKE WASN’T BIT, YOU MUST AQUIT. LET ME ASK A QUESTION. IF YOU READING THIS WERE INDICTED ON THESE SAME FEDERAL CHARGES WOULD YOU BE FIRED OR WOULD YOUR BOSS WAIT UNTIL THE COURT CASE WAS OVER? GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR A* ALREADY.

By myconju

July 18, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

Can’t we just wait and see what happens before we throw in the towel and say that Mike Vick is out for the season.

If Mike Vick is found guilty of fighting dogs, I think that he should be given a sentence to fit the crime and the league should deal with him as a first time offender. I think he’ll need counseling, because I believe that Vick may have been raised in this type of culture.

I’d still like to see him play for the Falcons and succeed.

Many of you bloggers give credence to what many people think. You care more about your pets than you did the victims of Hurricane Katrina, Darfur and the Iraqi war. You care more about your pet than you do the homeless man, woman, boy or girl. Now I want to say that is your perogative, but I don’t feel that way.

Let’s deal with Mike Vick in love. Who knows one day he may be one of the biggest supporters of the Humane Society.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Lemme guess Austin Bailey You also believe in Santa Claus? What an illiterate moron….

By joan

July 18, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Here we go again..Now we’re into the race thing. Don’t get off track, it’s about humanity. Torture of humans or dogs is the same thing. Hitler was a murderer too.

By Expert

July 18, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Remember this is just an indictment, not an conviction. Therefore vick deserves his due process. Clearly the falcons are perturbed, but they realized that they have goals to yearn for.I still believe this can be a successful season.

By scott

July 18, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

I am a white guy, 46, Atlanta native whose 11 year old son has Vick pictures, jerseys (along with all his little black and white buddies at school)everywhere.

I paid 300 for Vick to autograph a small picture for my son. Well today we are having the explanation talk on what he might have done or not done. I tried to stick with him thru all the other issues but this is the last straw. There comes a time in life where a message has to be sent. Forget the wins etc. Send the message that this will not be tolerated in the organization and show the kids what happens when you make poor choices.

By Steve

July 18, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

This is absolutely disgusting. For someone of Michael Vick’s stabding in the community to be involved in something as obscene as this. I hope it is the end of his career. He doesn’t deserve to be in the NFL

By JD

July 18, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

OK Austin Bailey. First off, nice rant about the racist GA fans. Sorry to inform you that you are also a racist. “Redneck” is a derogatory term along with “Uncle Tom”. If you don’t think so check into any workplace’s EEO/MEO regulations.

Secondly, the Duke and Kobe cases were local yocal prosecutors trying to make a name for themselves. The Feds have a 95% conviction rate for a reason. They are not out to win votes or popularity. They only indict if they are sure they can win (see 95% conviction rate again). This is not Tony Soprano getting off. This is just another Ron Mexico incident. Can he have an alias in prison (Ookie or Ron)?

Get a grip and get off the high horse with your own racism!

By atlantanole

July 18, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

This is so far from a race issue. Using the race card is a way to avoid responsibility and blame someone else. MV has been handed the world and if he is guilty, he has shown he doesn’t have the brains to handle fame or money. Same as Paris Hilton (she is white by the way)

The problem with Michael Vick on the football field and in life is he has too many people (A. Blank) making excuses for him, it is never his fault.

Look at the work ethic and character of players you never hear bad things about, Warrick Dunn (black, I think), Payton Manning, Tom Brady, Randall Cunningham (black also), Steve Young, Drew Brees. They all have taken responibility for themselves and stopped making excuses.

If Vick would not act like a thug, he would not be called one.

Vick apologists, stop making excuses for him, he has been given more than you and I ever will.

By PB

July 18, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

I hate Pit Bulls with a passion, but for this day only, i feel sorry for them.

By HE'S A VICTIM

July 18, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Leave poor Mike alone, he’s obviously a victim of our racist society. Don’t hold him accountable, don’t call a spade a spade. It’s all part of the white man’s plan to keep a brutha down, don’t you see???? On a serious note, why haven’t the Falcons put him at running back yet? It takes way less brains than QB and who is more dangerous in the open field than #7, too bad we may never know. What a dummy.

By Brian O'Brien

July 18, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

I miss Steve Bartkowski…..

By Hung Pao

July 18, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

I’m all for protecting animals, but just out of curiosity, how many of you folks crying over a few dozen mistreated pit bulls do the same over the millions of human babies aborted over the last 25 years? How many of you demanding justice from Vicks hide are outraged that courthouse killer Brian Nichols has drained all the public defender funds out of the till and he still hasn’t gone to trial and probably won’t before Vick has his day in court? This country is screwed up priorities for sure.

By Old Hokie

July 18, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

As an almost fifty year member of the Virginia Tech Alumni, I have long been grateful to Michael Vick for what he did to put VT on the football map. Today I am ashamed to think of the honors his college has given him and the disgrace to which he has fallen. Maybe it is a racial thing. I have never lived in the ghetto, and I do not understand much of the ghetto swagger, so I cannot be sure. I do know that neither the lessons I learned in school, church, or my home would have ever condoned such activity. I do know that “Ut Prosim”-That we may serve would not have condoned such behavior. I do know that Duty-Honor-Country would have never condoned such behavior. I feel sympathy for Falcons fans who see their hopes dashed once again. I hope Michael Vick does not go to jail for his misdeeds if proven guilty. Most of all however, I will find it difficult to sit in Lane Stadium on September 1st and think of Michael as a great Hokie. In my mind he will be much closer to him whose name should never be spoken. I am ashamed of him!

By Mark

July 18, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

myconju

“You care more about your pets than you did the victims of Hurricane Katrina”

That’s right, I do. There were no “victims” of Katrina. Just lazy n****, who where too stupid to flee. My heart pumps purple p** for them….

By G Spot

July 18, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Ghost of Cochran; what the hell is the “statue” of limitations? Is that the play where the QB holds the ball like he is going to throw it, and the receiver runs behind him and takes it and runs with it????

By Mike

July 18, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Vick has let alot of people down. Whether guilty or not, he has found himself in another legal entanglement. It would seem that he hasn’t learned his lesson. You can’t associate with the same crowd anymore. You’re in the spotlight now, dummy! I used to defend him. I can’t do it anymore. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. As for the race card, this isn’t about that. However, if you think it is, then it would behoove all black celebrities to monitor their every action. They must be careful about who their friends/associates are. It means that you don’t get to cut corners. You must remain on the straight and narrow.

By Herschel for Prez!

July 18, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

** hey Mike Kenn Rules, good point, but you say Herscel was an average pro? If you count his USFL& NFL stats, he has more yards from scrimmage than any other pro football player in history…far from average I must say

By Beach Bum

July 18, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is dirty. Marcus Vick is dirty. Neither deserve to be in the NFL. Coach Petrino - I bet you now wish you stayed in da-Ville.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

PB What do you have against pits? Can you give me an actual event that caused you to hate them, or are you simply a media lemming?

By JoJo

July 18, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

He desrves to be fed to his dogs..scratch that…they probably wouldn’t even eat him.

Michael Vick is a disgrace to football

By Mark C.

July 18, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

I wish Mike was white so we could all just agree that he’s an overated, crummy QB and quite possibly the worst human being in Atlanta sports history.

Now, let the race baiting shut down the blog in 3…2…1…

By Mike

July 18, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Abortion is a touchy subject, Hung Pao. What you see as murder, I don’t. I see it as one less unfit mother that I have to support for 18 years. As harsh as that sounds, I love children. I’d much rather see a child loved and raised by parents who can take provide for him/her. I think it’s a shame Nichols still has been tried and convicted as I’m sure everyone else is. As for Vick, he’s been accused of a crime. That’s news.

By KenFromCalifornia

July 18, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

there’s so much at stake here… …with the nfl’s new revenue sharing policy (among team owners), lower-revenue teams do NOT get to tap into the new revenue pool if their attendance falls below roughly 95% of the league-wide average attendance.

needless to say, “butts in the seats” is a neccessity for the falcons. the falcons are officially a “lower-revenue team”, despite the sell-out crowds.

it seems that what arthur blank misses is that you can have top attendance simply with winning. you shouldn’t put all your eggs behind a single player in the hopes that season tickets will be sold/renewed.

it might also help if arthur blank stopped raising ticket prices even when the team doesn’t finish with a winning record….a result that occurs often.

By Megawatt

July 18, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Coming to a theater near you, “Longest Yard III” staring Michael Vick and the federal pen team.

By Steve

July 18, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe all you idiots out there thinking he’s not involved!! Thinking he’ll bear this case. Did you read any of the indictment?? He’s guilty. He’s a liar and a dog torturer.

By Whitey Fjord

July 18, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

Mark Bradley @1:03 PM

They say ignorance is bliss, but damn, son, haven’t you been part of the white minority in this town long enough to know everything here is view through the lens of race?

Even the poor state attorney general has had his blackness nullified because he won’t go along with ignoring the law in the case of a black man convicted of having sex with a minor (you think the description of dead dogs was bad, read a description ofthe porno tape made at the party where this little sexcapade took place).

To answer your question, no, we aren’t beyond self-fulfilling race baiting.

By Mike

July 18, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

Correction: can provide for him/her.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

markc To call this POS a human being is an insult to human beings everywhere. He is a vile,disgraceful animal.

By Broadway Marsh

July 18, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Ha! I speak for myself and the rest of NYC - hey, let him play. Especially at the preseason game against the Giants at Giant Stadium in NY. I can’t wait!!!!! I’ve already started to drink for the game and get my “bandaged doggie” pound puppies ready.

Oh, and what a shame my bros in Philly don’t get Atlanta at home this year. I shudder to think what those animals in The Link would have in store for All American QB #7.

Do you think MV is going to cancel his youth camp?

By Will

July 18, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

I think Vick’s legal predicament is a distraction and the Falcon’s should give him a leave of absence while they prep another QB for the season. I can easily picture the animal rights activists at every Falcon game if he suits up. Better to do it now than later so that the team can focus when they come to camp next week.

By Andy

July 18, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Dear Mr. Blank,

First, it is imperative that you suspend Michael Vick, with pay if necessary for the 2007 NFL season. I know you love Vick, but only by suspending him now will you have even the slightest chance at having a good year.

And even if the Falcons have a bad season, which is likely without Vick, they should know where they stand with regard to their QB situation. For in all probability, Vick will likely spend 1-2 years in Federal Prison beginning in 2008-2009. For the long-term interests of your football team, and to begin to put this “situation” behind the Falcons, you must suspend Vick now and allow him to concentrate on picking up the pieces of his life, if that is possible. Once Vick gets out of prison, maybe some team, the Raiders maybe, will give Vick another shot after he gets out of prison.

By suspending Vick you they will be able to fully see if Joey Harrington can be a quality starting QB in the NFL. If not, then QB must be your number one priority on your draft board next year. This will also allow the Falcons to see if DJ Shockley can be a first string NFL QB or just a lifetime backup. Personally, Shockley is one of my all time favorite Georgia Bulldogs and a genuinely good person, so I hope he is able to succeed as a starter. Plus, it would go a long way in diffusing the tremendous racial cloud surrounding the entire Vick situation. That situation will not go away soon, especially if Vick is replaced by a white QB. But can DJ play? I just don’t know.

If the Falcons allow Vick to play this season, and if he has a magnificent year, which is very possible, where does that leave the Falcons once Vick is on trial during the next season and facing probable conviction and jail time. Even if he is somehow found innocent, which is hard to believe, think how long the trail itself will take. It will probably take many weeks just to empanel a jury. Vick is going up against the federal government, not some part time local DA.

These are just some thoughts from a long time Falcon fan. I think you have done a decent job with the Falcons, although firing Dan Reeves and hiring Jim Mora was a mind boggling mistake in my opinion, but I felt you were over eager to put your stamp on your new franchise. I think you are a good man and truly want the Falcons to be a successful model NFL franchise. I think it can be, and the first step along that path is to suspend your friend and starting QB, Michael Vick.

Sincerely,

Remaining A Falcons Fan PS. I would be thrilled if somehow you eventually bought the Braves. You would do a tremendous job, but that is a distant concern right now I know.

By Spanky

July 18, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Flash: Stupid people do stupid things!

If the Commish has any “huevos”, he’ll ban Vick for life, and the Falcons will cut him (and hopefully not pay him another dime). Within 10 years, he’ll fritter away his money, be living under an underpass and talking about how the “man” didn’t understand his “culture”.

Do you think if Blank says please, the Texans will give Matt Schaub back? Another front-office gem.

By Mike Vick

July 18, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

I am not worried at all. I am famous and rich and at the height of my popularity. All I did was kill a couple of dogs! OJ killed his ex-wife and he wasn’t convicted. He wasn’t even playing ball anymore. This dog thing is going to have as much impact as a parking ticket.

Mike Vick

By Falsons Stink

July 18, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

With Vick and Babineaux the Falcons new team name can be the “Dog Killers”. Are you listening Artie Blank?

By Glenn

July 18, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Based on what has happened in the past, it is fairly easy to predict what will happen in the near future.

Mike Vick will continue to get in trouble (poor judgement, stupidity, bad luck, racism, phase of the moon, pick your own reason) regardless of the outcome of this latest situation.

Arthur Blank will do nothing to punish his star. Oh, he might have another press conference. He might call his star into his office for another closed door meeting. But he won’t do anything. Just more talk.

Roger Goodell will do nothing to punish his star. Oh, he might have another press conference. He might call his star into his office for another closed door meeting. But he won’t do anything. Just more talk.

The Falcons fans will still go to the home games. Some will protest by not wearing No. 7 jerseys, but they will still go. The white folks will complain. The black folks will defend. But they really won’t do anything. Just more talk.

Just once I would like to see someone do something unexpected. Unfortunately, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting a different result.

By the way, for all of those out there who are not REALLY familiar with our justice system. You are presumed guilty in this country until proven innocent. The guy on the street may give you the benefit of the doubt (if the media will let him). But the justice system presumes you are guilty until you can prove them wrong (been there, done that … from a middle class white man).

By Kaye

July 18, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — When a Bad Newz Kennels dog was wounded in a losing fight, NFL star Michael Vick was consulted before the animal was doused with water and electrocuted.

The above is from a local news story. Any person in their right mind should be outraged by this. If you’re not, I hope to God you are not raising children and if you are i sure hop you do a lot better job then Mike Vicks mother did in raising him. To defend the crtiminal puts you in the same place as they are. He needs to sit in a prison cell for five years and realize what all he threw away and how little regard he had for the image of this city.

By Judd

July 18, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

The guy is a whack job & things will only get worse—not better—for the Falcons the longer they wait to cut him.

By Steve

July 18, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe all these people think he’s innocent??? Have you seen the indictment??? or can’t you read??? He’s done!!! I’m glad, he’s a thug and doesn’t deserve to play the game!!! All these millionaire players think they’re above the law. It’s about time they started suspending them before it ruins the game. The NFL will never allow that. He’s going down!!

ps I’m not a racist but I do have a beautiful chocolate lab

By gary

July 18, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

maybe mike convick should be treated the same way he treated his dogs after some of his performances

By myconju

July 18, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

I will admit that Mike Vick may be guilty. I was surprised that his cousin who lived at the house wasn’t indicted. Could he be indicted under a different indictment?

Last I read in a NewPort News Newspaper, he was begging Mike Vick to stand beside him. He stated unequivacally that Mike Vick was innocent. Why wasn’t he indicted. Has anyone asked the Government that question.

By Hunk Erdown

July 18, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

If you look at the Falcon’s depth chart you will see that there are black men all over the roster, and no one is saying anything about them. This is not a race issue. Vick needs to go because his character is very flawed. He stood up in front of the microphones at the draft and was willing to throw his own family under the bus to save his own hide. Vick is and has been the one paying all the bills for the property in Virginia. He paid for the kennel to be built on the property. He paid for the dogs. He paid for the drugs and fighting paraphenellia. Vick is the one who poses while making gang signs with his hands. Vick is the one interviewed after the games where everyone is to blame for the loss but himself. Over and over and over since Vick got to Atlanta he has shown signs of having no integrity. Its not a Race thing, there are fine examples of highly principled black men on the Falcon’s roster. Warrick Dunn helps young women buy homes… he is never portrayed in some media hyped way because he is black. he is just a good man. Vick is not a good man, he needs to go because he is not a leader, he has serious character flaws. The fact that he is now being indicted for the inhumane way that he lives his life is just the icing on the cake. He has lived that way for a long time and it is now being properly exposed. We don’t even need the indictment as the excuse to rid ourselves of him, there is plenty without that. The fact that this has come to light just makes it all that much more evident that getting rid of Vick is the right thing to do.

By Kirby

July 18, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

To you blacks calling people who obey the laws racist uncle toms, no wonder you are perceived as out of control, angry, murderous, out of control baby breeding machines and people sell their homes and move even if means a two hour commute rather than live near you and your criminal kids. I feel sorry for the smart blacks that do not think like you thugs and have to be lumped in with you all. I have witnessed people at my work today defending Vick and his right to fight dogs, they are all black and most never deserved the good jobs they received in the first place, they got their jobs based on one thing, quotas. But, the blacks not defending him today at work were hired for their individual and rightful qualifications.

By Mark

July 18, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Question. Does MV have a “father” and if so, where is it? Is he a product of a w******* mother who doesn’t know who his daddy be? We all know he’s a bastard, but is he in the true sense of the word? It would explain alot….

By Laura B

July 18, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

I don’t give a hoot about the Falcons or football. Basketball is more my game, but to all those who say that this wouldn’t have happened if Vick was black, and call whites who hold Vick in low esteem “rednecks” - a racist term itself - I say this: if Vick was white and had done what he is accused of doing I would be just as disturbed by his actions and would be calling for Blank to take him off the team. No person of any color who engages in dog fighting has any respect in my eyes. Trash is trash.

By KW

July 18, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

On July 26 when the Falcons are starting training camp Mike will be in front of a very conservative, Bush appointed, dog owning judge. Find a new poster thug. Better yet, support Peyten Manning, he is a real man, not some punk BOY like Vick.

By anon

July 18, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

BFD

By wes

July 18, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

The previous owners of the Falcons are STILL screwing over this Franchise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAARRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Satan

July 18, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

I am your everloving father, Vick. You can come live with me and avoid jailtime. I will let you play with all the puppies you want.

By falcefan

July 18, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

What always gets me about cases like this is the incredible lack of personal responsibility people seem willing to assign when race is involved. Some are saying “AJC, you fianlly got what you have been wanting” What the h*ll could you possibly be talking about. If Vick had never, oh let’s see, bought the property, bought the dogs, bet on the dogs, KILLED the dogs, or been anywhere near anything like this the AJC would have NO story. The reason there is a story is because of Mike’s off field activity. It has NOTHING to do with his skin color. It has to do with the fact that he is a monumental idiot. When you make the kind of jack he does and the way you get your rocks off is by watching dogs kill each other is just totally wack (there is a pun there if you look!) People, give me a break. Any time an over paid pro athlete does something over the top stupid, the media is going to cover it cause us average Joe’s like to read about what complete morons some of these guys are. NO MATER WHAT COLOR THEIR SKIN IS. Once again, and don’t forget it, had Vick NEVER been around any of this sicko activity, NO one would be talking about it. Period!

By John Locke

July 18, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

Why should dog fighting be illegal? Pit bulls are bred to fight…and die.

Cattle, horses, goats, sheep, fish, etc. are slaughtered by the millions every year.

Alcohol and tobacco directly kill over 200,000 Americans every year and both are still legal to purchase and consume.

Why the sudden moral and ethical outrage over dog fighting?

I don’t get it.

By the way—I am white and I believe if Vick were white he would not be getting the same amount of s** is getting now.

John

By Just a Thought

July 18, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

When I read the accusations that were made against Michael Vick, I wondered why all the fame, money and fans were not enough? Why he felt the need to harm another life? Why he was the man he was? It all makes me so sad. I think we all truly need to pray for Michael Vick, one another, this country and this world.

By Sheryl902

July 18, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this

It is very tiring to hear people pull the “racecard” when someone stands against something that is wrong and it involves a black individual, or any individual except white. Sure, you say, you are white. But what Vick is accused of is sickening-whether he be black, white, or purple for that matter. I was a Vick fan-I loved watching him play. He brought alot of excitement to the team. He made things happen. But as the old saying goes, “Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.” And there has been quite a bit of “smoke” around Vick lately. Whatever happened to the idea of right and wrong?

By June Cleaver

July 18, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Can’t we all just get along? I don’t like pit bulls and apparently Mike Vick doesn’t either; that’s why he’s killing them. Mike is basically a good boy; he just got in with the wrong crowd. Now, Ron, uh I mean Mike, pass the herpes cream. Those cankers you gave me are way too painful and now Ward has them too! I hope the Beaver and Wally don’t catch your nasty virus. I told them to stay away from those skanks you hang with. By the way, I heard herpes can be transmitted to humans by dogs. Stay away from the b*** (female dogs), Ron Mexico.

By SPARKLING WIGGLES

July 18, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Vick is a thug and needs to be suspended. I have no doubt Goodell will hand down some sort of suspension. Federal Prosecuters have a amazing conviction rate it rare they indite unless they are ready to win unlike local prosecutors that take cases to trial for the glory aka Duke rape case. Will Vick be found guilty who knows OJ was found not guilty. But Vick needs some accountability it was his property this things were happening on. And the inditment seems to have proof of him being on the property and being invovled in the dog fight activities. Those that are involved are nothing but a bunch of wiggles , sparkling wiggles that is.

By Satan

July 18, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

The reason his cousin hasn’t been indicted is because he is the one ratting them out. I told you a long time ago that this is what was going to happen

By PJ

July 18, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Hmm, torturing and killing dogs who didn’t perform well.

Come to think of it, Mike hasn’t performed well either.

bye bye “Oookie”

By Mark

July 18, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

John

Your proctologist called. They found your head.

By Ward

July 18, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

The Falcons should also fire Rich McKay for trading Shaub

By Big Boy

July 18, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

THE PEOPLE WHO THINK VICK IS NOT GUILTY ARE THE SAME ONES WHO THOUGHT OJ WAS INNOCENT. LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE!

By Satan

July 18, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this

Hey John Locke WELCOME TO HELL!!!

By Sherlock

July 18, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

His team-mates should not be forced to share a field with him. His crimes are the type that disgust anyone with heart and as such will likely disgust most of his team-mates. How can they concentrate on their game with these images in their heads. How can they feel comfortable and focused knowing that they share the field and their pride with a man who enjoys watching the agonized death of living beings. There is also the matter of his own dedication to his team. In college football, a player who does not study lets his team down. In any sport, a player who engages in illegal activity knowing that the entire team will pay has let his team down. If you fire him, you set a good example for the rest of the team. If you do not fire him, you let everyone know what the standards are. No matter what happens, he has assuredly caused a decline in moral for his team. There is no way this situation doesn’t cause some divisiveness within the team. A strong manager will do the right thing and fire him. Remove the cancer from the team before its effects spread.

By spike

July 18, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

willdave….adding to your comments….the NFL has one of the most impressive investigative staffs that one can assemble. You can bet your bottom dollar that the Falcons already know a great deal and can’t act until certain legal and otherwise public thresholds have been met per the contract and legal restricitions. You can also bet that Vick’s major sponsors have also directed their investigative staffs (internal or contracted) to have this thing fully snooped long before now. This is big business, and the court of public opinion is every bit as important to the sponsors, the NFL, and Mr. Blank as what the final outcome will be with the federal govt. The FEDS were surely waiting until they had it fully supported before they sprung it. The local legal processes stepped aside for the FEDS who had the better case. They can come back latter. What happens with regard to Vick in the privacy of corp. board rooms and that in FED govt plea bargaining will be far more interesting that what will happen in the actual courtrooms.

By observer

July 18, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

The problem with all this “innocent until proven guilty” business is the grey area between Guilty and Innocent. Vick may NOT be guilty of actual crimes, but he will NEVER be innocent of these despicable actions. These actions took place over 6 years. These were well planed and executed. I believe he will be found NOT GUILTY but he is severely tainted (remember OJ?). The Falcons will never get beyond this as long as they have a “NOT GUILTY” QB on their roster.

By disgusted

July 18, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

If all the charges are true, he is garbage, disgusting, a total coward.

Even if he associates with people who do this, knows people who do this, watches, anything.

Using dogs to do your fighting? Torturing and killing them because they didn’t perform?

He’s no man, a complete coward.

By Boots

July 18, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

The big question is W.W.B.D? —- What Will Blank Do?

By memoryofsonny

July 18, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

I am joining the boycott of the Falcons and the sponsors. I’ll still watch though for two reasons: 1. Identify sponsors 2. To see if some dog loving d-lineman/backer puts a Thiesman on him. PS Outside the Lines on espn right now showing all his denials. LOL

By Leon

July 18, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Let’s just stop these excuses and crapola about coming from “disadvantaged” background or “cultural issues” or racial issues.re: Vick or anyone else that may be involved in this horrific stuff. My aunt came out of dire poverty in Poland, went into Aushwitz at the age of 14 and only survived by “servicing” the Nazi officers. Her husband also spent time in a concentration camp. They eventually survived, made their way to North America and were hard-working law abiding citizens. My aunt worked for many years in the menswear dept. of a major department store and my uncle started a small furniture business. They were decent citizens in spite of their very difficult background. They came here having to also learn a new language and culture and were exposed to plenty of antisemitism. It is time for any people—white, black, yellow, green or otherwise—to stop making excuses about their so called “repression” and start picking themselves up by their bootstraps, work hard and get an education, if possible. Color and culture have nothing to do with this. Decency, integrity, self-respect and civility or the lack of same are the issues at work here. There are PLENTY of white people who have been involved in dogfighting for a long time. Do some research and you will find this out. This is absolutely NOT a race issue and should not in any way be seen as such.

By DDarling

July 18, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

I would like to know why the AJC let people use words like Idiot and Thug. I think a comment can be made without these words.

By Leon

July 18, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Let’s just stop these excuses and crapola about coming from “disadvantaged” background or “cultural issues” or racial issues.re: Vick or anyone else that may be involved in this horrific stuff. My aunt came out of dire poverty in Poland, went into Aushwitz at the age of 14 and only survived by “servicing” the Nazi officers. Her husband also spent time in a concentration camp. They eventually survived, made their way to North America and were hard-working law abiding citizens. My aunt worked for many years in the menswear dept. of a major department store and my uncle started a small furniture business. They were decent citizens in spite of their very difficult background. They came here having to also learn a new language and culture and were exposed to plenty of antisemitism. It is time for any people—white, black, yellow, green or otherwise—to stop making excuses about their so called “repression” and start picking themselves up by their bootstraps, work hard and get an education, if possible. Color and culture have nothing to do with this. Decency, integrity, self-respect and civility or the lack of same are the issues at work here. There are PLENTY of white people who have been involved in dogfighting for a long time. Do some research and you will find this out. This is absolutely NOT a race issue and should not in any way be seen as such.

By Gus

July 18, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Lots of disgusting racist vitriol here. Personally, if he’s proven guilty, I think he should be given the maximum penalty allowable. Also his career will be over. I guess that will be sufficient punishment.

By Megawatt

July 18, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

You are right John Locke, you don’t get it. There is no “sudden” moral and ethical outrage - dog fighting is illegal and has been illegal in most states for a long time because it is brutal and inhumane and the general population has supported their lawmakers in making it illegal. Next time you hear of a fight to the death between cows at a slaughter house or two tunas down at the fish market, give me a call.

By Hangemhigh

July 18, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

In the great words of JB Stoner:

“You simply cannot have n**** AND law and order”

By sicem

July 18, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

John, What trailer park do you live in? Read the indictment or have someone read it to you very slowly and maybe you will understand exactly what is going on here! GEEEEZZZZ!

By Roy K

July 18, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

how long is Arthur Blank going to tolerate a thug at qb? give it up - a bad investment getting worse. cut your losses on this loser.

By JD

July 18, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

[Typical Vick Supporter

July 18, 2007 3:25 PM] (http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/sportscolumns/entries/2007/07/17/whatdowe_make.html#comment-1400699)

Nice English. Did anybody pull the race card when the Feds went after Martha Stewart?

By Damn Yankee

July 18, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

This is sad and funny at the same time. White people running for the noose (some), black people playing the race card and the rest on the US is readin this blog and looking at Newspaper to verify is this 2007 or 1907??? On another note, if Vick was not involved, he knew about it and lied about that. Hope he gets suspended but Falcon fans, with or without him, your team is looking at a sub 500 season anyway. Too bad your owner made a $$$ move by keeping a popular black QB to get black fans. Problem is that he is not the guy that will bring a championship. Blanc Deserves this for that supid contract he gave Vick a few years ago. The Steelers got wise and let Kordell Stewart go and won the SB a few years later. You now have an excuse to get rid of Vick. Idiot or not, he is not a very good QB plain and simple. Cut your losses now.

By Airheadmotorcycle

July 18, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

To me this isn’t about the NFL, football, the Falcons, the Falcon’s QB, race, Atlanta, etc It’s about the unbelievable torture these dogs endured in their short lives. If Michael Vick had anything to do with this crime he is a revolting human being and mentally ill. I hope he did not have anything to do with such an evil culture. I suspect the Feds know he did or they wouldn’t have made the indictment knowing what controversy this would cause. If he’s guilty, I hope he gets everything he deserves and more. If he didn’t have anything to do with this, I hope the Federal prosecutor gets everything he deserves and more.

Trust me, there are a lot of dog lovers in this country. No community would tolerate an animal abuser like that as the QB of their team. Let’s wait and see if he’s guilty or not. I hope this doesn’t end up like OJ, where he actually guilty, but won’t be convicted because he’s a celebrity.

By JohnGTFan

July 18, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m not a racist white guy looking to destroy this guy’s life. Nor am I a racist black guy always crying about racism when some idiot thug does something stupid. So, in the case of MV7, this one is pretty simple. Eventually, no matter your race or thoughts, you have to admit, sooner or later, when something smells like sh!t, it is sh!t. And honestly, that’s what Vick is. Sure, he’s a young kid that had millions thrown at him. But he isn’t the only one. There have been MANY and they handled it with dignity and class. I hope he gets prosecuted (COME ON, WE ALL KNOW HE’S GUILTY…and Johnny Cochran wouldn’t have been able to save this mess…can’t beat the FEDS), sent to prison, and ATL can use the money that would have went to him and a true QB that can lead this team to a championship. See, this is the problem in ATL…there are too many fans(i use this term loosely) that support only a guy or type of player, not the team. What would you rather have…a QB who can’t win, but is exciting to watch, or a 12-4 team every year competing for a Superbowl

By Marco A

July 18, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Today, I have given away my Home Depot gift cards and sold off my Home Depot stock. I am also not going to follow the Falcons via the radio, TV or whatever media chosen to cover them as long as an accused serial dog-killer is on the team.

Wait until the trial ends? Anyone that has any sense to go through the voluminous articles written about the case will agree that the Feds 95% conviction success rate is not in jeopardy regarding the Mike Vick case. If you do believe that Mike Vick might be acquitted then you should go on some more timeshare tours in Florida.

By Chris

July 18, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Oochie…..remember when you flipped off the fans at a home game last year? The fans who pay your salary?

Right back atcha, you animal-abusing Cretin.

Dog lovers…until Arthur Blank does the right thing…shop at Lowe’s.

By disg

July 18, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Jumbo said it best: Hung? Electrocuted? Shot? Slammed to the ground until dead? Drowned? Oh my G-d, this is just horrifying. I really hate these people with every fiber of my being.

By Gilbert Jones

July 18, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

The case appears to be held in a rocket docket Virginia court system sometime in mid-football season. The detailed history already appearing in the initial indictment still has many unknowns that will become known by mid football season, possibly in bits and pieces before trial. The sheer magnitude of cruelty involved and the arrogance of Vick to partake willingly in this outlawed sport for so many years, even alledgedly killing some of the 6 dogs who failed their meanness test in April 2007, then lying to the NFL Commissioner in May 2007, and there are so many people and players who had placed their faith and trust in Vick and all the while this underground activity into one of the most cruel sports ever devised by man. A federal indictment is not a finding of guilty, but the circumstances of this case surrounding Vick and having a Web site aka BadNews and owning the property and modifications to the property and already several witnesses implicating Vick, the property owner, and then the shirts and caps BadNews and even as bad as what is known today, more details will be known soon as to any or all involvement by Vick. The incidious nature of this crime is so great that Vick should not be allowed to play until the case is resolved. The Falcons need to nip it in the bud and immediately drop Vick from their payroll, and acquire Dante Cullpepper, and distance their team from Vick now before training starts. The NFL may suspend Vick anyway, but the Falcons need to drop this guy from their roster because Vick is far beyond being merely a distraction for the Falcons and fans of NFL football.

By SPARKLING WIGGLES

July 18, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

DD Darling I agree we should have everyone take out the harsh words like idiot and thug in their posts and maybe replace them with nicer words like ahh or darn or SHUCKS OR better yet lets have everyone use SPARKLING WIGGLES

By Sum-dum Blak Gye

July 18, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

FREE RON MEXICO!!! FREE RON MEXICO!!! FREE RON MEXICO!!! FREE RON MEXICO!!! FREE RON MEXICO!!! FREE RON MEXICO!!! FREE RON MEXICO!!!

By Intrigued

July 18, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Some observations from this post

1. Lots of angry people out there
2. Clearly plenty of white racists out there
3. Plenty of black racists disguised as apologists as well.
4. If the alleged acts don’t offend you, you should go see a therapist.
5. I’m pretty sure most white people aren’t out to take down sucessful black men
6. Has O.J.’s “If I did it” caused any black folks to reconsider their defense of him?
7. Some folks seem more interested in picking fights than debating the issue.
8. Being a Falcon fan can’t be fun

By Beaver Cleaver

July 18, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

I support my mom’s comments. And Eddie Haskell says real justice would be a loser leave town match where Ron Mexico would be put in a cage with 11 of the meanest, biggest pit bulls in the country. We’ll see how long his scrambling skill lasts before they chew his limbs off. And if he loses, he gets doused and wrapped with a live electric cord before he’s kicked out of town for good. Yeah, that’s the ticket. As entertainment, it’ll be swell. Let’s get Wally, Lumpy and Eddie Haskell and form a posse. Just remember, it won’t be too gory since we live in a Black & White TV show.

By Terrell in the ATL

July 18, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

I think everyone should just leave a decent man like Mike Vick alone. He wasn’t hurting anyone or anything by playing with those filthy dogs.

He was merely Celebrating His Diversity.

For Atlanta to be a TRUE ‘international city,’ we all have to be Tolerant and Accepting of the customs of others. This is even true when we don’t agree or necessarily like the customs of others that are strange or odd to us.

Let’s all hold hands with MV7 and sing “Puff the Magic Dragon” together. Hey? What do you say?

By Craig Miller

July 18, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

I seem to remember some bile, bitterness and anger being directed at one Jeff George, a white quarterback, when he was here. And what he did doesn’t even approach what Vick is accused of doing. If Jeff George had been caught running a dogfighting ring, the reaction would be the same as it is now for Vick.

It ain’t about race.

By Fred

July 18, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Race is irrelevent. Vick is SICK. As is anyone who likes to watch dogs die or likes to kill them. Blank shouldn’t have this boy stocking shelves at is company. It will be interesting to see if Blank has the nuts and bolts to do the right thing and separate the Falcons from Vick.

By memoryofsonny

July 18, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

If vick ever gets to play again (and if you’ve been watching espn for the last hour you might be wondering) I wonder whether the refs will be quite as quick with the late hit flag?

By jeff

July 18, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Reading through these comments I am not surprised to see the race card being played in full force. To all of you that think Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would not have been indicted I say wake up morons. I have seen many white guys on the news go to prison for the same thing. Like that other idiot that got his walking papers from “Greys Anatomy” trying to play the race card, it is stupid. Keep blaming the system every time a black man commits a crime, keep blaming the cops every time a black man gets arrested, blame the media, blame the man, blame anybody but the guy who broke the law. Then one day when racism creeps back into our society you can complain to the little sheperd boy that was mauled by wolves. The way I see it Mr. Mexico has been showing his true color for some time now. It’s not black or white but jumpsuit orange.

By AJ

July 18, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

to “saddened falcons fan” and others that think like you….you are PATHETIC!!!!! why must EVERYTHING bad that happens to a black person have to be about RACE!?!?! and why is it that you always ASSUME that the person that is saying something is a REDNECK and wears a white hood as you put it? ANYONE can be saying these things INCLUDING another BLACK person!! Bill Cosby is black and he says bad things about black people!!! why can’t you and others like you take responsibility for what happens and NOT pull the race card? being white/black/purple/orange or green has NOTHING to do with this at all. I agree that EVERYONE SHOULD BE innocent until PROVEN guilty, but that is the nature of the beast, everyone has an opionion and being in AMERICA, EVERYONE is FREE to voice that opionion. just like YOU are FREE to voice yours-no matter how backwards others think it is!!! so BEFORE you pull the race card AGAIN-which we all know you will eventually do-take a look at ALL the facts as they come or as they are presented WHEN and IF he has his day in court, and come to an EDUCATED conclusion then. But until then, keep your STUPID remarks to yourself or to any other IDIOT that may want to listen to you for some reason!!!

By SPARKLING WIGGLES

July 18, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

For those who want to see the whole 18 page indictment and not just the pieces given to us by the media. Go to the smoking gun website. Alot more details. Again is and always will be a SPARKLING WIGGLE

By josh

July 18, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

JohnGTFan,

couldn’t have said it better myself. Now, Go Dawgs!!

By Observe & Learn

July 18, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Its not prejudice or profiling to correlate actions and appearance with lawlessness. We knew it when we saw the cornrows. We knew it with hip hop lifestyle. We knew it watching his younger brother get run off from Va. Tech and any NFL camp. We damn well knew it when he gave the finger to those paying for his lifestyle. Mark’s article correlates his unconscionable actions with his disappointing field achievements. Falcons should run his shiftless self off and every professional sport ban him for life for his inhumane actions. Let him go back to the hood and sing boom-shaka-lacka sipping Boones Farm with his ebonic “bros” on a drug infested street corner or, better yet, a federal cell with NFL lineman sized “sweetie.”

By Observe & Learn

July 18, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Its not prejudice or profiling to correlate actions and appearance with lawlessness. We knew it when we saw the cornrows. We knew it with hip hop lifestyle. We knew it watching his younger brother get run off from Va. Tech and any NFL camp. We damn well knew it when he gave the finger to those paying for his lifestyle. Mark’s article correlates his unconscionable actions with his disappointing field achievements. Falcons should run his shiftless self off and every professional sport ban him for life for his inhumane actions. Let him go back to the hood and sing boom-shaka-lacka sipping Boones Farm with his ebonic “bros” on a drug infested street corner or, better yet, a federal cell with NFL lineman sized “sweetie.”

By D Ables

July 18, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Let’s see, Peyton Manning, dropped water balloons & mooned people while in college, never indicted, Tom Brady, he’s got a baby-momma but never indicted, Jeff Garcia, married PMOY, never indicted, Donovan McNabb, was on a nudey yacht & quotes Ghandi never indicted,Brett Farvre (or however he spells his name) addicted to pain killers, rarely shaves, never indicted, Tony Romo, cant handle a snap but never indicted.. the list goes on. Sure, Vick’s a mediocre QB at best but he’s never shown me he’s a QB of the past, present or future.

Oh Matt Schaub, please come back. Dont make us endure Joey “dont throw across the middle!!!” Harrington. I dont make much money for a living but I’ll give you 1/2 of my paycheck!

By The Sports Maven

July 18, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Treating Schaub like a red-headed stepchild doesn’t look like a very smart move, now does it. Arthur Blank could have had a very good, Jewish QB for a lot less money and a good citizen as well. Unfortunately, Blank gave Vick unconditional support failing to recognize that Vick saw that as a weakness to be exploited with his selfish playing style and thug-lifestyle.

I heard that Nike has been quietly but quickly removing Vick’s pictures from its stores. Vick never heard the saying, “To whom much is given, much is expected.” He thought his life philosophy was, “The rules don’t apply to me.” Before he got into dog fighting, he should have looked at the kind of people who do this. Scum of the earth who are bullies and sadists who enjoyed hurting and killing. These folks are hunters, they are torturers. Now his character is defined by his friends.

Michael Vick will be football’s answer to Mike Tyson. What a sad story, especially for a QB that may be exciting to watch but, frankly, is far more hype that performance.

My advice: cut a deal, take your punishment like a man, then get the hell out of Atlanta and the NFL.

By Me

July 18, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

If he is found not guilty, some will say he bought his way out. If he is found guilty, some will say the Man had it in for him. Either way it’s pretty stupid to get yourself into such a situation.

By mel

July 18, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

MV, do the right thing and tell AB, RG and Co that you are going to take a leave of absence until you get this stuff straight. Take your teammates out of the spotlight so they don’t have to deal with the daily questions about your activities. Think past your own nose. Signed, A fan who REALLY hopes this is one of those “Ham Sandwich” indictments, but isn’t holding her breath.

By Wonder woman

July 18, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

The sheer brutality of the charges begs for Vicks to be suspended until his trial is over. Raising animals for blood sport is barbaric. Lets hope Vicks is ordered to get mental health counseling at some point. He clearly needs it.

By J.P.-Conyers

July 18, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

This is not a black/white issue but a issue of illegality and/or at least very poor judgement and morality.You can never convince all that he had no knowledge of these activities.To turn a deaf ,dumb&blind eye does not excuse one from guilt in court or in public opinion.I pass no judgement on MV except to say he should have known more orknown better.As a player MV is as exciting as they get.I literally sit on the edge of my seat during games.Unfortunatly its because I can not trust him to do the right thing on the field.Not for lack of trying or lack of desire,just not exercising good judgement.For this reason alone I do not feel he is the player to take Falcons to the top but he also is only one[important] piece of the puzzle.It would be totally wrong for MV to shoulder responsibility for this teams poor play & performance on & off the field

By White_Yankee

July 18, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Excellent points Intriguing-What perplexes me about this case is that for some people Vick’s race is an issue at all. Trust me, if Peyton Manning or Tom Brady were charged with dogfighting they would be catching all kinds of heat, mostly from other white people. It is disgusting what Vick is alleged to have participated in and the only thing people need to be focusing on is the question of Vick’s innocence, not his race or if he is being railroaded because he’s famous.

We should all take heed of the Duke lacrosse saga though and not step to judgement about Vick’s guilt or innocence until his trial. I admit this may be diffucult for many because dogs are so beloved in this country, the nature of the allegations against Vick and to many,(like it or not) they are as loved and valued as companions as any family member and even viewed as an indespensible member of the family.

But it is possible that Vick really is innocent of these charges. (although the evidence at this point makes Vick look very bad) Until this is adjuicated, Vick should be allowed the opportunity to play, if he can stand all the heat he will recieve from the media and fans. To me though the most sickening of the charges is the one of throwing a dog to the groung until it died. If Vick is found guilty of MURDERING the dogs who did not survive, he should be banned for life from the league, after he gets out of prison.

By ImaDissinU

July 18, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

RE: “I am willing to bet that you and EVERYONE else who has used the n word and disrespected black people will not say all your bullsh* to Vick or any other BLACK man.” - RY*

RY,

What, pray tell, have YOU or VICK or any of your other hoodlum friends done to E-A-R-N the respect of any person of any race on this blog.

Unlike your regular ‘goverment assistance’ check, or your cousin Ray-Ray’s new Affirmative Action job, RESPECT typically hast to be EARNED in this country.

I hope you enjoy that “40” our tax dollars bought you, Dog!

By Seasoned Ticket holder

July 18, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Well, this is another in a long history of this thug. Vick pays restitution for giving a girl Herpes. Vick says his name is Ron Mexico in an altercation. Vick carries ‘Mary Jane’ in a secret compartment. Vick gives the fans a double finger when they booed him. Vick ducks out of an appointment and says he missed his plane.

But the biggest part is his saying it’s not his fault. It’s not his fault that world class receivers drop passed balls. It’s not his fault that he doesn’t have a line that can block, yet they seem to do alright for Dunn. It’s not his fault that his cousin used his house as a breeding farm for the despicable practice of raising and mistreating fighting dogs.

Mr. Blank, he is an embarassment to this town. Look on the bright side, maybe you can get the number one draft pick next year.

By Mike Kenn Rules

July 18, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Herschel for Prez,

My apologies for the comment on Herschel, I love me some Herschel and I agree his numbers are hall of fame worthy. I just didnt want all the anti-UGA talk. I will bet 60% percent of the state consider Herschel Walker to be their Hero. Go Herchel! Go Dawgs!

By da man

July 18, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

it seems as if alot of people are really good at talking and making racist indirect comments in an email form but I guarantee they wouldn’t be made face to face (especially bk). Your comment about the thug nation pumping ‘get rich or die trying’ in “THEIR” car of ipods was very very racist. I’m not stupid, I read b/w the lines!!! I can listen to that all day but it doesn’t mean that I’m a thug, just like a majority of other races that loves listening to ‘get rich or die trying’ or any other rap. I am by no means being Vick’s spokesperson b/c if you do wrong and it’s proven, then you have to suffer the consequences. But with that being said, just b/c the FEDs bring a case against you, doesn’t mean that you are guilty. If you do your research, you will see. If “THEY” want you, they will get you, by any means necessary. I have so much to say but that would require a book. But to end this, I would say, being a black male, we’re always guilty even before a crime is committed.. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!

By RY

July 18, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Dear PeopleWithStupidTagNames and Mr. Duke,

I thank you for proving my point. You and everyone else on this blog or worst than I thought. Keep typing TOUGH guys. You are real tough with your DELL there buddy. And peoplesdoingwhatever, that’s real cute. If it means that much to you, Do like Vick and pull the tr**ger yourself.

By Glad_Yall_Aint_Judges

July 18, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Can somebody please inform me when is the last time Feds went accross state lines to vigorously investigate an animal cruelty case? Just wondering.

For the vast majority who’ve convicted the man allready in the “court of public opinion(bs)”… Remember severall Lacrosse players who prematurely where convicted in that very same court? Remember how their University and the media jumped to judement against them? What happened? Oh thats right, it all turned out to be false. (Waaaaaay later)

But wait, that would mean it’s totally possible to be indicted for a crime that you absolutely didn’t commit! But we all know that’s not true…. right?

By Air Supply should be in the RocknRoll HOF

July 18, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

I wept when I heard of the indictment, and I wept again when I read it. What do I tell the children? Perhaps I should just say something like: If Mike ever finds the right system and the right offensive coordinator he’s gonna be something.

By GE

July 18, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Enough already about the damn dogs, Vick, Falcon fans,the press, racists, thugs, hoodlums, elitest, blacks, whites, Latinos, super bowl , apologist, wins, losses, passing percentage, etc. THIS IS JUST A DAMN GAME FOLKS!!! WHY NOT SPEND OUR TIME IN PRESSURING OUR GOVERNMENT TO BRING THE TROOPS HOME AND TREAT THOSE INJURIED AND STOP SAYING THAT THEY HAD A PREVIOUS CONDITION REQUIRING THAT THEY TAKE A DISCHARGE AND PAY THE GOVERNMENT BACK FOR THEIR TREATMENT. I WILL TAKE THIS ACTION OVER PIT BULLS BEING MISTREATED ANYTIME. HAVE WE LOST OUR MINDS?????? WHERE ARE OUR PRIORITIES???

By Doug

July 18, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Mike earned the right to play in the NFL. He earned the priveledge of working for Mr. Arthur Blank. I stil believe the Falcons have become a first class organization. Many players on opposing teams have expressed interest in coming to Atlanta. We have world class facilities and the players are treated with respect.

So I ask, how can one man jeopardize all this progress by becoming involved in an illegal “blood sport”? As a season ticket holder I can’t support this behavior from anyone!! When a man takes on the role of leader and role model and then turns around and does something like this…It is time to go! Mike simply does not appreciate the GOD given talent he has been given and should be taken out of circulation!

By Aimee

July 18, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Roger Goodell should be embarrassed! He needs to do the moral thing and SACK VICK! He lied to him back in April about being involved in this case- he needs to be consistent…fire Vick!

By Warren

July 18, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Dear RY,

You are a disgrace to our entire race. Fools as angry, stupid and uneducated as you obviously are should just shut the fornication up, RY!

RY, you appalling grammar is as disgusting and ill-conceived as your logic.

Frankly, I am ashamed to share the same planet with ignorant ghetto trash like you, RY.

Sincerely,

Warren Johnson Proud & Educated African-American Falcons Fan