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Dogs or Jackets? Too soon to sweat
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Holy cats! We’ve barely made it past the Major League All-Star Game, haven’t even played the British Open yet, or opened the season at Saratoga, and Georgia has already whipped Georgia Tech. On paper.
And they don’t play until Nov. 24. Just check Mark Bradley’s column. When Bradley speaks, people snap to attention, and he says it’s the Dawgs over the Jackets already. It takes guts. I had guts when I was younger and vigorous-er. I gaze into the future now with caution, and, frankly, haven’t arrived at any conviction about the Georgia-Georgia Tech game this soon. I’d say this, that it’s the better part of discretion to anger the Jackets than it is the Dawgs.
No reason I shouldn’t. Phil Steele’s annual football preview hit my desk the other day, and I’m now armed with all anybody needs to know about college football in the United States in the year 2007. I don’t know Phil Steele. He works out of Cleveland. Has a staff of, I think, 30 some. He uses a lot of small type and crams more stuff into 328 pages than Sears Roebuck used to put in a catalog.
I don’t know that I needed his help, but it is nice when somebody who makes a living doing this stuff agrees with me. Phil nominates Georgia as his sixth surprise team of the season. No. 11 in the nation. Also picks the Dawgs to win the SEC East. You have to run a long way down the line to find Georgia Tech. Forty-second, between Auburn and Illinois. That should be a shock to Auburn.
I can’t buy that, that there will be 41 teams better than Georgia Tech. There are some stars coming back, Adamm Oliver, Darryl Richard, Philip Wheeler, Andrew Gardner and Tashard Choice. The Jackets suffered a loss, though, that leaves a gaping hole in their offense. Calvin Johnson took early retirement, and Tech had never had an offensive threat like him in my time. On the other hand, consider this: Reggie Ball is gone, and with him goes a mystery for which none of us has an answer.
Ball broke in at Grant Field with a rousing performance at quarterback. He beat Auburn. It came out of the blue. He had Florida State on the ropes at Tallahassee. That’s all pretty good, but it never got any better. Four years later he was still trying to find what he had lost along the way. Instead of building on that glorious opening, he was playing more like a freshman than a senior at the end.
All the while, Taylor Bennett stood along the sideline. The one game he had started, he kept the ship afloat against Connecticut. Ball was hurt. The next time Bennett got to start would have been Ball’s last game, but Ball was academically ineligible. Bennett had a dazzling day in the Gator Bowl. So did Calvin Johnson. Georgia Tech hadn’t seen a passing combination like that since Joe Hamilton and Harvey Middleton. And all of us, from the least inquisitive alumna to the most rabid man in the stands, begged the question: Why had they not seen more of Taylor Bennett? When Ball was crashing — and oh, how many crashes he had, not the most crucial of which was losing count of the downs and making a throwaway pass against Georgia — why not Bennett? On and on it went, until in the Gator Bowl they saw what might have been.
Now Bennett gets his shot, but his best target will be in Detroit. It breaks your heart to imagine what a battery Bennett and Johnson could have been, and why Chan Gailey stubbornly stuck with Ball, who was better when he got there than when he left.
Offhand, you’d have to say that it’s likely Larry Munson’s last season at Georgia will be more enjoyable than Wes Durham’s season at Tech. Munson, who wouldn’t know a “hobnail boot” from a snowshoe, by his own admission, but Durham who would, being one of us Tar Heel countrymen. And you’d have to go along with Bradley, but in the heat of the summer, isn’t it rushing the season a bit? I don’t like to mix sweat and football.
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By charles
July 10, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this
Hamilton to Dez White/Kelly Campbell was pretty good too.
By NASCARfan
July 10, 2007 8:28 PM | Link to this
Mr. Bisher,
I know you’re a Tech homer, and that is just about the only thing we disagree on when it comes to sports.
But with all due respect Sir, the Bugs are going down, and they’re going down hard and fast. You name all of these players. But the only player who will matter will be Matthew Stafford.
Mr. Bisher, remember that name.
By Huh???
July 10, 2007 8:41 PM | Link to this
I just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading that.
By Bigcalidawg
July 10, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Tech is above average in mathematics, physics, and excuses.
Despite the multiple references Techies make to our recent “infractions”. You fail to acknowledge the criminals and academically borderline athletes your fine institution has produced during the past few years.
Perhaps the differences between DAWGS and Tech is that y’all are the Kingpins and we are the ones behind the trigger. Must be. If y’all are smarter, but just as criminal. Chew on that. Oh yeah. How many Techies are raised in GA!?
By BankDawg
July 10, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
I think Tech will be fine, but won’t get it done (again) against the Dawgs. There is a culture of losing on North Avenue, and that won’t change so long as Chan is there. And save your breath about Vandy and Kentucky. Vandy scared the mess out of the national champions, and Kentucky slapped Clemson around. How’d the bees do against Clemson?
By ga_tech_92
July 10, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
Mr.Bisher,
Thank you for having the guts to not jump on the sure-fire-easy-path-bandwagon known as the ubber recruit machine UGA. It would easy (lazy) to say the team who recruits top ten every year will beat the team that mostly recruits bottom forty (except last year). Anyone can pick the easy favorite. You have the character to present the other side of the coin, which is more admirable than to ride the easy favorite. Yes, Goliath is likely to win again (yawn), but David will be there and give them all they can handle…and maybe…just maybe…the lazy bandwagon fans (UGA) will get a little taste of an upset…it happens.
Go Jackets!
By ga_tech_92
July 10, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
PS -
I hate to start this but, what happens if TB is clearly better this year than RB ever was?
By Buck Cochran in the NW
July 10, 2007 9:05 PM | Link to this
Sir, if you don’t like to mix sweat and football then you should withdraw from the ajc staff when it come to FB and never write another column about the sport. Sir, you just showed such lack of understanding of the sport that all of the FB columns you’ve written over the years have been rendered null and void.
By Tech Fan's Worst Nightmare
July 10, 2007 9:47 PM | Link to this
Good gosh. The man didn’t even pick Georgia over Georgia Tech but the lab geeks make excuses anyway. Its like a reflex. Its all they know how to do. “Georgia recruits better….wawawawawa…hand me a tissue”. Recruiting is part of the game lab geek. Nobody feels sorry for you. They’re laughing at you actually. Georgia Tech=JOKE.
By Nic Claytor's Mom
July 10, 2007 10:01 PM | Link to this
For the “dazzling day” that Bennett had in the Gator Bowl…HE LOST!!!!!!
By Kendall
July 10, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this
Taylor Bennett is so good that he couldnt beat out Reggie Ball. Face it folks, NO COACH is going to go with the lesser of two QB’s. His job is on the line every year. If Bennett was better he would have played. Plain and simple. Scary, huh nerds?
Nerd=Social Pariah=manual tasks behind a computer
By GoodOleJacket
July 10, 2007 10:16 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter if it’s July or November…if the Jackets win or the Dawgs win. One thing stays the same. I hate Georgia. I look forward to another Jacket win. If it’s this year, great. If not, I’ll be around and I’ll remind the Dawgs when needed.
By BankDawg
July 10, 2007 10:40 PM | Link to this
GoodOleJacket: Remind us of what? Yet another Tech failure? Let me save you the trouble of your next post…yes, I do in fact realize that Tech has CLAIMED more national championships…75% of which came when players wore leather helmets.
By Elijah
July 10, 2007 10:50 PM | Link to this
This article was ok. I am not saying that Tech should be in the Top 25 to start the season, but at least in the top 30. If they stay healthy and Bennet is half what he seems they will end a top 15 team. As far as Georgia goes-that de ain’t use to handling a smart qb. Things are going to turn around now. Georgia should retire Reggies jersey. With his attitude and I.Q. he should have went to Georgia anyway.
By Essobee
July 10, 2007 10:51 PM | Link to this
UGly looks OK on paper but everyone knows that when Tech plays Ugly you can forget the paper and Mark Bradley. Sure, Tech should’ve, would’ve, could’ve but didn’t. The bizzare non-call on the infamous “fumble” paved the way to an UGly victory last year. But rotten officiating works both ways. What matters is the final score…the one that says UGly loses. You know, just like in Florida vs. UGly every year.
By barrel o rum
July 10, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this
For the guy who called us lab geeks. If we have any excuse you know what it is and he is not there anymore. Time to be scared
By ramblin_wreck_ce
July 10, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this
Unlike Bradley’s article, it looks like you actually spent time thinking about it and attempting to write it effectively.
On thing people don’t get about Bennett was that he wasn’t a starter in high school. I think that he’s been a project of the program since he got in.
You mentioned UConn. In that game, he made good decisions through most of the game. However he lacked execution of his decisions—namely poor mechanics which had him over-throwing or underthrowing nearly every receiver.
Last year, against Samford in the third quarter, he didn’t have it. Three points managed. While we did run the ball predominantly that quarter, when he was asked to make plays, he didn’t.
Against Duke, his numbers rivaled Ball’s. Yes, it’s Duke, but you had to wonder if the light didn’t go on and the coaching finally clicked. But was it a fluke?
In Jacksonville, I think he showed something had changed. This Spring, he continued that trend.
When it’s all said and done, at the end of the Taylor Bennett era you might just have a Cinderella story. A high school back-up turned into a fine college starter. If you’ve met him at fan functions, you’d know he was the polar opposite of Ball’s personality.
I’m eager to see how it turns out. It’s going to be interesting to see how the AJC covers what could be an interesting story.
By ga_tech_92
July 10, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this
Who’s making excuses? UGA’s consistently higher rated recruiting classes are both a fact and a complement in the world of college football. Do you expect me to believe you don’t agree? Get a grip. My point is that *most UGA fans are band wagoner’s who don’t have the guts to finish a degree from either school, nor to root for the perennial underdog. It’s easy to root for the Goliath of the state, takes character to stick up for the underdog. Mr. Bisher has the guts to remember that David does occasionally teach the arrogant Goliath some humility. Don’t try to impress me with being on the side of the clear favorite, that’s the easy path. The easy path has never been worth bragging about (or writing about). Save the tissue for when Goliath next falls.
BTW - well said GoodOleJacket
By Truth
July 10, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this
I hate Tech as much as the next Dawg but I sure wish they would stop being so danged rotten against that pathetic ACC competition. They do, after all, still carry the name GEORGIA in their title.
By gatech87
July 10, 2007 11:10 PM | Link to this
You’re the only sane voice left in the AJC sports section Bisher.
Your once proud paper has embarrassingly pandered to the larger customer base yet again w/ the ‘ole Bradely article. Pretty poor journalism on his part…
By Vision
July 11, 2007 12:20 AM | Link to this
Great article Furman. You stepped right out front and told us the college footballs eason has not begun and the scores aren’t tabulated until it does begin. Great. What an inspirational article for the thousands upon thousands of rabid football fans in the Southeast.
So you suggest all college football fans do what, talk about the weather and wait for the yesterday’s news printed media to explain it to us?
As old as you are you should realize most of the fun of college football is talking about it. Good grief, what a sourpuss.
By Dawg19
July 11, 2007 12:49 AM | Link to this
To all the Jacket fans out there. UGA and its fans, whether they be bandwagon or lifelong ‘Dawgs, will be scared when Tech gives us a reason to be scared. Some of the games between the teams have been close over the last 6 years but all of them have ended with the ‘Dawgs coming out of the game with a “W” and the Jackets with a “L”. This last recruiting season, some of the recruiting sites say that Tech out recruited Georgia. Others say the opposite. In the years previous Georgia has out recruited Tech every year. Bennett may be good but Stafford is better. Georgia and its fans have every reason to feel upbeat about this season and the game against our in-state rivals. Tech has done nothing to make us think any different. The way I see it, there is no Tech fan that has the right to brag or boast about your team to a Georgia fan until you do beat our team. The same way that I as a Georgia fan have no right to brag or boast about my team to a Florida fan. 6 in a row speaks for it self just like 15 out of 17 does. When you go on a winning streak, or for that matter, win a game against one of your rivals, the rights to bragging are yours for a year.
By Wrecker1
July 11, 2007 12:55 AM | Link to this
Mr. Bisher, Calvin Johnson was indeed a great offensive threat but as a WR he was only getting the ball about 5-6 times a game. Eddie Lee Ivery was a threat with the ball who got the ball 25 times a game and put about 140-150 yards a game on the board. I’ll take a good RB over a good WR every day. I do appreciate your point though, it will take quite an effort to fill the void that he leaves. I think the 2 most important people for TECH this year will be John Bond and Taylor Bennett. If the reports from the spring are accurate, then TECH has learned that it is ok and perfectly legal to use all 11 players on offense and to throw the ball between the hashes. There’s not much arguement that RB wasn’t a great QB but run any QB out there and tell him 75% of his throws are going to be at least 15 yards down field and 90% of his throws are outside the hashes and any QB’s numbers are going to suffer. Don’t get me wrong, I never could figure out how RB could miss a receiver by so much, but he wasn’t getting a lot of help from the offensive system. This is where Bond and Bennett come in. If Bond gets out of this Chan Gailey limited approach to offense (Pat Nix sure didn’t), and uses all his weapons and the whole field, and Bennett is patient and takes what is given to him, TECH won’t lose a game this year. One other key, the defense has to make stops in the last 5 minutes as well as in the first 55. The last 3 games last year as well as the ND game, the defense had TECH’s destiny in their hands and couldn’t make a stop. So you heard it here first, if Bond and Bennett come through and the defense makes those key late stops, TECH goes undefeated through the regular season.
By shane
July 11, 2007 3:03 AM | Link to this
mr. bisher, you are right,it is too early to pick winners in the late fall games. however,you guys at the ajc started this ball rolling. i would much rather read about the incoming freshmen, players that stood out in practice, line ups for next season,and etc. it is an easy way to build intrest in one’s column and takes little or no legwork, just make a prediction. all of the knee-jerk fans will jump on the bandwagon,having learned nothing of value.i would like more information on the dawgs, and tech too, and less of this drivel.
By heeldawg
July 11, 2007 4:24 AM | Link to this
To Wrecker1:
If, if , if….
It Tech scores more points each game than their opponents, they’ll go undefeated.
If Reggie Ball had not been a bonehead, then Tech would have found some other way to lose to Georgia every year.
If pigs could fly…but they can’t.
The odds of Tech going undefeated are roughly akin to the odds of Chan Gailey winning the Nobel Peace Prize. Sure, it could happen, but the probability is slim.
Don’t they teach the fundamentals of probability at Tech? Or do you Jackets just elect to ignore them?
To Bish:
Good article. Objective and balanced. I was wondering the same thing when Bradley wrote his piece, but then I remembered that it was all about selling newspapers. We college football addicts will read anything about the game this time of year, and will respond to anything controversial.
…Kinda like I’m doing now.
By Bart
July 11, 2007 5:49 AM | Link to this
It’s simple, Reggie Ball became addicted to the Tickle Piles that are a part of Tech campus life.
By Sport Fan
July 11, 2007 6:04 AM | Link to this
When was the last time gt beat UGA in football without the aid of academically ineligible players?
By Jay
July 11, 2007 7:21 AM | Link to this
Why does the AJC keep bringing the subject up then if its too early. Try a little metamucil.
By cooter11
July 11, 2007 7:26 AM | Link to this
when the season starts, the ug fans will have the bighead soo bad…just keep believing all you read.
BuLL already told you guys that your spooner always throws picks…
It’s fun to laugh at dogs!
By Coach
July 11, 2007 7:34 AM | Link to this
Wercker1, you are right on the money.
By GoldenGoose
July 11, 2007 7:35 AM | Link to this
Great article as usual, Furman. Tech is going to take Georgia down this year! To discuss Tech sports more join us at http://www.bbuzzoff.com
By Buck Cochran in the NW
July 11, 2007 7:52 AM | Link to this
I’d like to know any TRUE Dawg fans who are thinking about the”Bugs” now? I’m focused on Sept. 1st and nothing further down the line and I do love sweat with my FB.
By Carter
July 11, 2007 8:01 AM | Link to this
Well, that magazine had UGA rated 11th and Tech 42nd. You will not see all of the negative blog entries and the arrogance that was displayed by the Tech people when that Athlon ranking came out. That was hilarious. I think it is funny how you praise Furman and “bash” Bradley. Furman didn’t predict UGA to win, so let’s not “bash” Furman. I remember the last couple of years when Bradley predicted Tech to win. You hear from the same people “what a great columnist, or great article Mark” What ignorance from these bloggers.
By Sturge
July 11, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this
Has Reggie Ball been cut from the Lions yet? Far be it from me to ever defend him, but at least he was never photographed ‘spooning’ his backup.
By sr.citizen dawg
July 11, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this
Most accurate premise in Bishers article is its “too early to even think about it”. Even in Georgia (and the South) man does not live by football alone.
By Brian
July 11, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
Want to hear U[sic]GA fans make excuses?
It all comes back to this:
Georgia Tech: 4 National Championships U[sic]GA: 1
By GT95
July 11, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
I love reading these UGA - Tech articles because it takes me back to a time when this game was the most important game on the Tech schedule. Now, IMHO, it is only the sixth or seventh at best.
This season, the Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Miami, Boston College, Clemson and possibly the ACC Championship games are all more important than UGA.
The first six in no apparent order:
Beating (1) Notre Dame would give Tech a huge win in a national game against a storied program. That goes a long way to national exposure and broadening the recruiting base. Something that Tech must do in order to find the kind of student athlete that the current regime is recruiting.
(2) Virginia Tech and (3) Miami are probably the two biggest rivals within division and winning both would be nearly mandatory to advance to the ACCCG.
(4) Boston College and (5) Clemson are the two best ACC opponents from the opposite division and winning one, if not both would be mandatory to advance to the ACCCG.
The (6) ACC Championship (if Tech is fortunate enough to make it) is the ticket to the BCS.
After those come UGA. It is for pride and bowl positioning if the previous goals are not met. That is the problem with the “rivalry”. At the end of the day, there aren’t many tanglibles on the line.
Rose Bowl and National Championships are on the line in the Ohio State - Michigan game.
Auburn - Alabama; USC - UCLA; Texas - Oklahoma; games within a conference. The game can mean BCS or bust.
One of the only non-conference rivalries I can think of that has national pinoche is Notre Dame - USC. And that is because, will because it is Notre Dame and USC.
So, while I enjoy the few times that Tech beats UGA, I don’t base the entire season on it. I don’t discard the other accomplishments the way I would if Ohio State loses to Michigan. Quite frankly, I think the game means more to the UGA fans. At the end of the day, the only thing UGA has going for it IS the football team. If they lose to Tech, then they have absolutely nothing to show for their existence. They will always be dumber, fatter, uglier, and totally unnoticed anywhere except for Georgia, but to get whipped on the football field by a bunch of nerds, well that would probably make life not worth living.
By 2N4YEARS
July 11, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this
OK, I’ll admit it’s way too early to know who’s gonna win ANY game, but it sure makes time pass. But if you had to bet money to choose UGA or TECH, any realistic person would bet on Richt & the DAWGS. There’s just no logical reason that anyone but a delusional TECH fan would bet on TECH to win.
By Sefdawg
July 11, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this
To gatech92, Don’t tell me about how hard it is to pull for the underdog. I grew up a die hard Dawg during the Goff era. We were David then, against nearly everybody. Being a fan then has made me always pull for the underdog in life. But just because now my team is good and yours is not, I should switch sides? I know how hard it is to watch the little guy lose, we did it for years. But that does not mean I feel bad now when we beat the little guy. It makes me appreciate it that much more. Go Dawgs!
By austindog
July 11, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
Brian, GT can no longer compete with Georgia on the football field. Go ahead and reach back 60 years for a grasp at validation, but GT is getting weaker and weaker. The only reason Tech fans maintain any hope at all is the gambler’s fallacy, that losing for 6 years makes you due for a win. Time to take it to DII.
By wes
July 11, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Tech lost by 3 last year, 7 the year before, and 7? the year before that….all with subpar recruiting (Calvin aside).
Tech is gaining at a snail’s pace. They’ll beat them either this year or the next.
By JStett33GT
July 11, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
guys just wait till the game and just see how Tenuta’s defense will open fire on a machine gun on matthew stafford and company. by the way uga fans your quarterback matthew stafford and joe cox are in love. its true you guys have gay quarterbacks. sure kregg lumpkin is good but uga lost all of their OL. and also everything on defense. remember that article in the ajc reported on the g-day game? well they said uga “HORRIBLE DEFENSE” because of the peformance against matthew stafford and uga’s runningbacks. seriously the first string defense sucked in the g-day game for real. i stil have that article. if you didnt read it, well you guys aren’t keeping on top of you team. just admit it uga fans you will have an off year this year and maby for next year too. you guys are doing good on recruiting but they might all just leave to florida and to other SEC teams. go tech - John
By JStett33GT
July 11, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
guys just wait till the game and just see how Tenuta’s defense will open fire on a machine gun on matthew stafford and company. by the way uga fans your quarterback matthew stafford and joe cox are in love. its true you guys have gay quarterbacks. sure kregg lumpkin is good but uga lost all of their OL. and also everything on defense. remember that article in the ajc reported on the g-day game? well they said uga “HORRIBLE DEFENSE” because of the peformance against matthew stafford and uga’s runningbacks. seriously the first string defense sucked in the g-day game for real. i stil have that article. if you didnt read it, well you guys aren’t keeping on top of you team. just admit it uga fans you will have an off year this year and maby for next year too. you guys are doing good on recruiting but they might all just leave to florida and to other SEC teams. go tech - John
By 79Dawg
July 11, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
**By Brian
July 11, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this
Want to hear U[sic]GA fans make excuses?
It all comes back to this:
Georgia Tech: 4 National Championships U[sic]GA: 1**
Ummm, you’ve had 1 Championship in which either the AP or UPI voted for you (1990). UGA has the same number, 1 (1980).
If you want to count your other “3”, which are recognized in the NCAA Record Book, then you must count UGA’s other “4”, which too are recognized in the NCAA Record book - 1927, 1942, 1946, 1968.
Just check it out at the NCAA’s Website
By JStett33GT
July 11, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
remember uga fans tech doesn’t have reggie ball and patrick nix (the guy that made reggie worse) anymore. nix left to miami to make kyle wright suck more. ball is in detroit trying out as a slot WR. tech now has john bond from northern illinois, who made garrett wolfe freakin really good and also the whole offense too. taylor bennett and john bond shall do really good this year and so on.
By austindog
July 11, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Glad Minnesota’s not in the SEC, we’d have to hear why their program is more dominant due to having 6 NCs. And Yale, they put ND, Miami, OU, dang, Yale is the greatest team in college football history.
By B hope
July 11, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this
Bisher is still hearing phone call from Butts to Bryant that never happened, when have you ever been right and who cares about ACC football even with the new additions
By McDonoughdawg
July 11, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
As a Georgia fan, I don’t know any who are worried about GT. Fact is, one day, they will beat us again, and life will go on.
By ATLDAWG
July 11, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
HEY TECHIES….LET ME MAKE THIS CRYSTAL CLEAR:
Nobody, and I mean nobody, in the realm of college football, or in life, gives a rats arse that GT won a few national championships back when helmets were leather and every player, even a lineman, was 5-9 and 165 lbs.
You act as if that gives you some sort of superiority over UGA. It’s even more idiotic that you somehow think that we UGA fans will believe that it does.
OVERALL RECORD VERSUS YOU SAYS THAT WE OWN YOU!!
6 IN A ROW SAYS THAT WE OWN YOU!!
If you ask 100 college FB “experts” across the country who has the upper hand in this whole UGA vs. GT thing, 90+ will say UGA.
BOTTOM LINE: BEAT US AND YOU CAN CLAIM SUPERIORITY.
Hell, in my mind you’ll have to beat us more than once to claim superiority. You have got a lot of catching up to do because…
WE OWN YOUR A$$!!!
By GTBuzzin
July 11, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this
I like our chances over Georgia this year. We have a better offensive line than Georgia, a great defensive coordinator and while we lost the game in Athens last year, we were in control most of the game. Taylor Bennett will give us the QB we have needed so badly in order to spread the field a little more against Georgia. Tashard Choice is no slouch either. That being said, the game is played on the field…our field this year and I will be there in my white and gold..
What’s the good word??
By reality check
July 11, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
World class denial there GT95. You say you don’t care and then start the irrational “dumber fatter, uglier” name calling. Obviously you are extremely bitter and frustrated.
By JerseyDawg1
July 11, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
I am a big time Dawg fan, but, I have never hated Tech. In fact, I like for them to win every game until they play us. They are from GA and are part of the same school system and operate out of the same tax dollar. So, lets send some love, and wish them well. Besides, our SOS and RPI would look a heck of lot better if they succeed.
By joe
July 11, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
UGA gets its own taste of hobnail boot in ‘07 as the wheels come off after an 0-2 start…MARK IT DOWN!!!
By scooter11
July 11, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
gt95: Is ‘pinoche’ the same as ‘panache’? Just a dumb Dawg wanting to know. To the point: since “pride and bowl positioning” will be all that’s left because the other “goals are not met”, then the Georgia game DOES, in fact, become the most important to the insects (of course, that’s IMHO). And, quite frankly, ANY win is important to Georgia’s fans, and ANY loss is bothersome.
By B. Collins
July 11, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Mr. Bisher, you have always been a great sportswriter along with Jesse Outler, but it baffles me, why you or the great Terrence or Bradley haven’t interviewed Coach Gailey, and asked him the question of why he never pulled Ball, when he was having a poor day. Are you guys scared to ask? Coach Gailey is too good of a Coach, to not have noticed Ball’s poor performances, and to know what he had on the sideline with Bennett. Gailey always said, that Ball gave them tthee best chance to win, but I don’t buy into that, in some of his worst games. Ask the Coach.
By JD
July 11, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
Keep hanging on to that argument of 4 NC. I guess that means Yale is among the nation’s elite in college football. Oh yeah, and Minnesota. What ignorance!!
By Luke
July 11, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
What a great article about nothing.
I see Georgia Tech is still making excuses for Reggie Ball and Tech hasn’t beat Georgia since the year 2000.
Heck, we’ve even beat Florida since then.
By austindog
July 11, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
GT95, it’s a good thing that you don’t base your season on whether you beat Georgia.
By jabster
July 11, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Go ahead, Rabies Babies, get the big head just like F$U. Then maybe you’ll wake up one morning after getting blanked by the likes of Vandy or UK.
To the bozo (Austindog) who said we need to go to DII—when you have a .500 or better conference record for the last 12 seasons running (unlike everyone else in the conference), when you go to a bowl game every year for the past 10 or so, you DON’T drop down to DIAA or DII.
Georgia has been a REALLY good team for the past several years, despite some underachieving. That does not mean that Tech is on a downward slide. If we were on a downward slide, we’d drop you from our sked and tell you to go beat yourselves.
By tenndawg
July 11, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Let’s see how many blogs we can get started with the same subject matter stated a different way.
By Gwen
July 11, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this
Dear NASCARfan, You are very young and have a very short knowledge of Atlanta history, if you think Furman Bisher is a Tech homer. I’m not going to tell you how old I am, but my dad used to read us Bisher’s columns when he was wondering if some Aubie named Dooley could fill the shoes of Wally Butts. In a state where Jesus runs a close second in popularity to Uga VI, Furman takes his life in his hands anytime he even types the word Tech in a sports column. I suspect from your post that my son could have been your babysitter, so maybe get a little perspective before you try to flame an icon like Furman Bisher.
By Sturge
July 11, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Not sure what the dawg’s fascination w/A*******es are as ATLDAWG ‘proudly’ states, “WE OWN YOUR A$$!!!” I know there is repressed homosexual desires at the UGA QB position but obviously the alumni are also part of the huge UGA Lamda alliance.
By 2N4YEARS
July 11, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Yawn… I’ve never seen someone that’s gotton beat down 6 times in a row that keeps running their cake holes as much as TECH fans. It’s the same ole song-and-dance. UGA will light their A*******ES up in November, as usual. Now, lets talk about something that’s less predictable.
By Pragmatic Man
July 11, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this
I guess being the great mathmeticians that you mites are, in the Taylor Bennett equation you guys are practicing addition by subtraction. GT-Reggie+Taylor=better. Or could it be GT-Reggie-Calvin+Taylor=worse. When Reggie was healthy the Tech offense was no more than chuck and duck. Reggie runs, Reggie throws it somewhere in the zipcode that Calvin was running in and about 40% of the time Calvin made some all world catch. When Reggie was gimpy and lost the ability to run and chuck, opposing defenses just threw the kitchen sink at him, either smothering him before he could chuck it toward Calvin’s zip code, or forced him to make one of his patented boneheaded mistakes. In other words they set out to crack Reggie like an egg. Now let’s take the Taylor Bennett addition to the equation. In the Gator Bowl he was able to buy time in the pocket without making a “reggie”, giving the greatest college reciever to ever play the game a little time to get some seperation before throwing it into the approximate zipcode in which Calvin was running. All world catches resulted. And still Tech lost the game. So folks. When you do the final subtraction from the equation, Calvin Johnson. Does Tech get better or do they get worse. Without Calvin Johnson to occupy the hearts and minds of a defensive co-ordinator, is Tashard Choice as effective. Probably not. And when you combine the subtractions with a defense that didn’t stand up to the test one single time in the biggest games of Tech’s season last year, is Tech better or are they worse? GT+Taylor-Clavin=?
By yellowblood
July 11, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
NASCAR FAN: We’ll remember Stafford just as we remember Quincy Carter and James Jackson. If Stafford had that much going on he would be playing for the Univ of Texas, a real national champ. and a better university. Quit sniffin exhaust fumes.
By austindog
July 11, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
Jabster, the way Georgia felt after losing to Vandy and KY was the same way VT and Miami felt after losing to GT.
By Sturge
July 11, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Now 2N4YEARS is talking about A**ES. W/the favorable M/F ratio compared to GT, I’d think you wouldn’t have such homoerotic tendencies. Are you and ATLDAWG ‘partners’ on the computer? Ever double date w/Stafford and Joe Cox? http://www.secfanatics.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=27358
By WFC
July 11, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
WES hit the nail on the head. Each of the last three years, in spite of “inferior” recruiting classes, GT had the ball with a chance to win with under three minutes to play. One would think that the mighty dogs would have had the game sewed up by then. Got to give UGA props for winning but must also wonder what happened to all those “Parade All-Americans?” For all the hype about the SEC, the only SEC team that GT probably couldn’t compete with is UF. Evidence? GT convincingly beat SEC powerhouse Auburn the last two times they played. UGA needed the “long count” fumble recovery TD to beat GT this past year.
By Question Man
July 11, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
A Question for Gwen, or other oldtimers: Didn’t Furman Bisher’s son play at Georgia Tech when Pepper Rodgers was Tech’s coach?
By yellowblood
July 11, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
GWEN and NASCAR FAN: Thanks, Gwen, for reminding us all of Mr Bishers imminence. He will never be replaced. I will respect any opinion he has even when I don’t like it. NASCAR Fan needs to get out of college football and get back to racin’ and wrasslin’.
By dowgie
July 11, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
jabster Georgia Tech left the SEC so they’d have a better chance to win games, that’s a fact. Now they should take the next step and go to DII to increase their chances once again.
By MakeMeLaugh
July 11, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
How short the memory of a mite must be. jStett33GT has already forgotten that the vaunted Tenuta D couldn’t stop the TRUE FRESHMAN Stafford with the game on the line last year. Came at him from every angle and what was the result? Another loss for Tech. Do you even want to talk about Clemson and WVU jStett? Do you in your wildest dream think that Mike Bobo won’t go to a 4 reciever, with one back offense to spread you nerds out all over the field and then just blast you slap away with Lumpkin and Moreno? And then comes the play action off of the fake to the backs when the great Tenuta is forced to man up against superior talent to try to stop the run. BIG PLAY BIG PLAY BIG PLAY! But look at the bright side jStett. Maybe after the Dawgs humiliate you at Grant’s Tomb this season Radakovich will finally pull the trigger on Chan your man.
By DawgBite
July 11, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Hey jStett33GT! Tell us again. How many wins does the Tenuta D have against UGA? Say it loud and say it proud jStett! O for froever I think that number would be. Do they call that numeral ZERO jStett33GT?
By 2N4YEARS
July 11, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Sturge : homoerotic tendencies?? What’s going on in that pea brain of yours to come to that conclusion??? Never mind, I don’t want to know. Sorry to get your ‘wings’ ruffled, but the truth REALLY does hurt sometimes. It’s not my fault. I’m just stating the obvious.
By Techfansblamingtherefs
July 11, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Yay for Tech Homer AJC Articles.
By Nic Claytors Mom
July 11, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
“TAYLOR BENNETT FOR HEISMAN!!!” Beano Cook
Career Record as starter 1-1 Last seen losing to WVU in Gator Bowl when his team was outscored 21-7 in the second half. Same WVU that lost at home to the mighty South Florida U. (see above for vaunted John Tenuta-Defensive Coordinator)
Face it Jacket Fans 06’ was your year to get the Dawgs and you blew it.
By Sturge
July 11, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
2N4YEARS…I’m not passing judgement on your and ATLDAWGS lifestyle. While I personally don’t prefer to talk about men’s buttocks, if that’s your fancy, so be it.
By scooter11
July 11, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
WFC: the insects also had the ‘chance to win’ against Wake, WVU and ND last year. Only Wake really had any reason to get up for the game. The Dawgs, Mountaineers and Irish sleepwalked to wins. And I find the ‘fumble’ reference humorous, given the real non-fumble event in the series. Also, please remind me the last time the Dawgs lost to a ‘power’ of the ACC. Closed last year by beating both of the alleged best (VT, gt). Recent wins over Clemson, FSU, and, of course, 6 in a row…your beating Auburn was shocking, but that’s about it for you guys lately. Be glad you didn’t catch them the year in between your wins. Talk about scheduling luck!
By GT Keith
July 11, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
I am a Tech Allum and an avid Tech Fan. I do not hate UGA I just do not care how they fair. I also do not pretend to know how UGA’s team will shape up this year, because frankly I have no clue of details of the guys on the team and therefore I have no opinion on how UGA might fair. I do however, know Georgia Tech Football fairly well. We are as well stocked in experienced, quality players as we have been under Chan Gailey, I think it is 16 (8 on each side) starters returning. I feel our Defensive Line could be the best I can remember, ever (I’m 33). Sure we loose Johnson, but Ball’s inability to get the ball to anyone else on the field will not be a problem for Bennet. I think he hit 8 different receivers in the Bowl Game, including a couple to a TE who Reggie hit not much more then once I think all year (only one I can remember is the Miami Game). John Bond is an experienced O Cordinator. I think it points to Gailey letting even more control go, as he should not get in the way of Bond as much as he influenced Nix. Bond said our offense could be “salty”. Now I have not personlly heard this one before, but it sounds good to me. Sure we loose C Johnson, but just remember this name Demaryius Thomas, 6’ 4” 220lbs RSFr. With the diversity of the offense we can obsorb the loss of Calvin. Now if this all adds up to Georgia Tech sucking, you will not find me betting against them. I have more confidence with Taylor Bennet starting in his first full year then I had every year Reggie Ball started. The reason Bennet didn’t get on the field is because we started off well and Gailey thought that Reggie gave us our best chance to win. Even he admitted that he doesn’t necessarily believe that was the best choice. So the logic of Bennet not beating out Ball doesn’t fly in my book. Gailey did not give him a chance.
By cadman
July 11, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Nerd=Social Pariah=manual tasks behind a computer=YOUR BOSS
And that is precisely why I now head for the club to get in 18, while the only two UGA grads who work for me toil at the direction of another Tech man.
You just don’t get it do you? Go to UGA, you can get a fine education there. Survive and GRADUATE from Tech and you have learned to excell in any situation for the rest of your life.
Party on Dudes, you are sooo talented.
By austindog
July 11, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Maybe I’m reading the Tech posts as a composite, but how can you adulate Bennett whose only win was against UConn and put down Stafford who finished the season with 3 wins- against #5 Auburn, GT, and VT, the #1 defense in the country?
By gt45
July 11, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
You UGA guys want to take shots at the best sports writer in Atlanta history and probably in the southeast, because he says don’t count your chickens before they hatch? The man has more sports wisdom and experience than fifty of you idiots put together! He simply stated that GA can and should beat Tech, as we all know, but the game has to be played, regardless. He didn’t take a shot at GA, he just tried to make a case for a team that is hopefully underrated. Maybe this article was more about Tech than Ga, but I can assure you that when the next article he writes about GA comes out, I won’t be taking cheap shots at him just because he doesn’t cater to Tech. Thankyou, Mr Bisher, for ALL of your sports articles.
By gator fan
July 11, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
I’ll go you one better: Last week, the Gators beat Tennessee in football.
OK, it was part of the new league, the All American Football League. And most of the players were college graduates, who used to play at these schools.
but dang, i drove down to orlando to check it out… and it was kind of fun.
Here’s a good story on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZCK96TLuOU
Hope the bulldogs are there when the AAFL starts. I’d love to kick Gator butt twice a year!
By Reuben Houston
July 11, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Man, I can’t say how hard it was to be both an athlete and a skolar at Tech. I remember when me and Reggie and Kenny was the man. Those was the days, dog! Listen my Tech brothers, does anyone want to buy some dope? I got a child support payment that is overdue and I do not want to be inkarcerated. Can you help a Tech brother out? I mean if you was selling weed to pay your ex old lady then I would buy it from you or let you use my cell phone or something.
By austindog
July 11, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
I saw an article on the AAFL and it looked intriguing (to satisfy the summer football fix), but I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance that Georgia is going to let minor league football play in Sanford. I’d be stunned. I was suprised it’s playing in Neyland and Ben Hill.
By DawgBite
July 11, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
By cadman
July 11, 2007 11:07 AM Survive and GRADUATE from Tech and you have learned to excell in any situation for the rest of your life.
Yeah cadman…you excel so well at everything that everyone just can’t wait to replace you with an H1B from India. I guess those H1Bs give more bang for the buck. So cadman don’t lose your good golfballs today because when Mr. Patel gets over here you won’t even be able to afford x outs. The only thing you nerds excel in is arrogance. And by the way cadman. Too bad that excellence doesn’t spill over to your football team. Maybe based upon the demographics of your institution and the rate that your grads are being replaced by those H1Bs, maybe you mites should drop football and start playing big time FUTBOL. You might even draw better crowds over at the joke by the coke if you do that. GT! ROFL! LMAO!
By SECFan13
July 11, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
i got tired of reading these posts quick, i just like that UGA guys start immediately making excuses then they rag on the tech guys for making excuses, typical, and UGA winning the SEC east? right…luck is the only thing that has gotten you past Tech past 3 years, how are you gonna hang in the SEC when you barely scrape by an ACC team who had a QB who couldn’t count
By ZeMan
July 11, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
cadman I got to hand it to ya dude! You Tech traffic engineers have done one fine job keeping Atlanta gridlocked. Not to mention the standout job you guys did developing those tiles on the Space Shuttle that fell off and killed those astronauts. No wonder they keep screaming for more of those H1Bs. Keep talking trash cadman. Your replacement will be here from Bombay anyday now.
By dense pup
July 11, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
The thing you dog fans do not realize is that the input-output process is highly inefficient. You obsess about this all year, talk endlessly on blogs, and really invest a nontrivial time just talking smack. Well GT fans really do not care, and frankly do not value the achievements of others nearly as much. Don’t get me wrong: we love watching our Ramblin’ Wreck and drinking Becks on a nice day at Bobby Dodd, but jeeezus, get a life. This may sound completely preposterous to your pigeonholed minds, but the GT draws from a huge int’l pool, whereas most people have never even seen a fb before. As for the others, we just do not value it like you want us to. Therein lies the difference between a U[sic]GA person and a GT person.
The U[sic]GA folk celebrates the lives of others. They live, eat, sleep this.
The GT folk are busy with patent design, engineering innovation, publishing, etc.
No wonder why the US is falling behind along any dimension of intellecutalism: the share of rednecks who only care about football and F-350s are growing fast. The fertility rate in the rural areas is freightening.
By Lex Luthor
July 11, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
Who ever worries about GT?
NERDS!!
By Quicy Carter and Fred Gibson
July 11, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
What do you want on your burger ?
By austindog
July 11, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
dense, first you say “GT fans really do not care, and frankly do not value the achievements of others nearly as much” then you go on to boast about different professions of Tech grads. That reads like you do indeed put value on the achievements of others.
By UGA78
July 11, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
dawgs and jackets—- cuss each other, but leave mr. Bisher out of it.he is a truly talented journalist we are lucky to have.
By NotFromAroundHere
July 11, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Not being from around here it is hard to understand why the GT crowd gets their thongs wedged so tight over something that they claim to care so little about. Enevitably they start howling about hamburgers and the such. Why is that? Maybe you guys need some help with that low self esteem thing you have when it comes to continuously losing at something that “Tech people don’t care about”. And how do you explain all the cussing, foaming at the mouth, and GT hats scattered on the roads all over Atlanta after every loss to that school over in Athens when “Tech people really don’t care” about to begin with? Why is that?
By Rueben Houston
July 11, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Prison’s rough dog. I dropped the soap!
By Reggie Ball
July 11, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
That picture over on the Tech page just ain’t right dog! I been flunked out now over 6 months and this brotha still can’t get no respect.
By Mike
July 11, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
Where have you gone, Lewis Grizzard?
By Reggie was the BEST
July 11, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
There are a lot of people on this Blog that really need to get laid.
By Gatorman
July 11, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Furman,
See what you started? The Georgia Tech folks who otherwise are superior to the Georgia folks in every way just can’t stand it because Georgia gets the best of them on the football field each year.
On the other hand, we Gators beat Georgia every way imaginable. Ho hum. Great to be a Gator.
Gatorman
By Buck Cochran in the NW
July 11, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
Why are we wasting time talking about the “Bugs”? How many starters return on the Cowboy “D”? Do you think that if we win the toss CMR might take the ball 1st and try to put points up? Lets talk about the things that count now and the “Bugs” aren’t one of them.
By jabster
July 11, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
Hey Dowgie—do you have the records of Tech’s teams in those SEC days? Look it up at www.jhowell.net/cf/scores/ScoresIndex.htm
Exactly why Tech left the SEC in 1964 has been the subject of debate, whether it was getting the big head and wanting to become the next Notre Shame, not wanting to limit their scholarships, or not wanting to share bowl money. Was it a dumb move? Sure, in 20/20 hindsight.
“To win more games” is not one of those answers. If it was, why in the world did Tech keep playing Bama and Florida (through 1984), Tennessee (through 1986), and Auburn (through 1987) every year until we joined the ACC? With UGA, we were still playing half the freakin’ SEC every year! More than half, if you count Tulane, who left the SEC shortly after Tech did. We also played Ole Miss every so often. And note, we weren’t playing the bottom half with Missy State, Vandy, and UK.
Thanks for playing. Departing contestants receive a case of Turtle Wax and a year’s supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco Treat!
By gt in sc
July 11, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
ugay, the f* university of ga. go there and learn a whole new meaning to animal husbandry. you saw matthew stafford practicing in his famous spooning photo, he couldn`t hold on to the sheep. i even have a new neighbor here who graduated magna cum laudy from ugay who phoned his daddy back in claxton and told him he learned something new to do with sheep; they actually shear them for the wool!!! imagine that.
By dowgie
July 11, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
jabster Tech had to keep playing teams like Bama and Auburn to get people into the stadiums. People sure didn’t go to see the Jackets, that’s why GT had to retract their stadium, it was so empty for games.
Want more wins? Leave the SEC. Want more sellouts? Retract the stadium.
By 2N4YEARS
July 11, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
Sturge : You’d better get of your Daddy’s computer before he gets home or he might kick your A$$.
By JustMe
July 11, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
Bradley picked Tech to beat ugay last year and was wrong. I am perfectly fine with him picking ugay to win this year.
dowgie - how many times will ugay idiots bring up stadium seating? Every one already knows and gets it - ugay has more fans and a larger stadium. Ugay has fans from every trailer park and every Waffle House in the State. We get it already! But that alone doesn’t make you ‘better’ or have a better team. That will be decided in November. Finally, you need to education yourself in history if you are going to try to make any statements to explain why Tech left the SEC!
By David
July 11, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Am I the only Georgia fan that hopes its a good game? Don’t get me wrong, I hope UGA beats the crap of Tech, but I also enjoy some good defense, which has been the dominating feature in the past few games. That’s why these games have been so great to watch.
To my fellow UGA fans (most of which jumped on the bangwagon and never went to this school).. stop getting so p** off if someone does not pick us to blow out a team, and stop complaing about everything b/c you’re giving this institution and team a bad name.
Good luck to Tech on the season.. maybe we both can stay undefeated until Nov 24
By Sam
July 11, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
I bet Tech is the only D1 team in America that has to sell “flex paks” just to keep from taking out even more seats from that quaint little thing that they call a stadium. A high school game in the Dome draws more meat to the seats than a Tech home game.
By jabster
July 11, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Dowgie—I still don’t get how leaving the SEC “to win more games”, but still playing an SEC-heavy schedule to do it, works. Do tell.
Interestingly, one could argue that Tech’s post-SEC schedule with Bear’s Bama, Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn (plus Tulane and maybe Ole Miss and LSU) is at least as tough as UGA’s average SEC sked today that includes Vandy and UK (ouch! that had to hurt) every year and Missy State every four. It’s admittedly a close call but worth thinking about.
Also, BDS@HGF is currently the biggest it has ever been, so the “retraction” argument (your term, thankfully not mine) is moot at this point.
By DirtDobber
July 11, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
Have not been here in a while and with no surprise, the mood has not changed, just the dates. Same ‘ol BS being tossed about.
You can argue for/against Bradley’s article but I contend there’s no risk in his “prediction” so what balls ?
Both sides can whine or cheer for their recruiting but GTs primary problem remains the coaching (Offense in particular). Until change comes, we can expect the same ‘ol crap .
A great coach can make winners out of average or lesser players but a mediocre coach cannot make winners out of great players . No way !
GTs problems remain - expect another mediocre season from a mediocre coach .
By Frank Howard
July 11, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
By JustMe
July 11, 2007 1:33 PM Finally, you need to education yourself in history if you are going to try to make any statements to explain why Tech left the SEC!
They got out to beat the scholarship limits imposed by the SEC, moron. They thought they were being real smart and could beat the system by going independent. Well just like the H1B joke will be on all you “smart” (smartazz) techies, the joke was on you with that one too. Yeah buddy! You idiot geniouses outsmarted yourselves once again. Haven’t been able to fill a cracker box stadium and guaranteed your own mediocrity for the rest of eternity. To be so “smart” you techies sure do shoot yourself in the foot time and time again. And oh, by the way mite brain…good luck explaining to the wife and kids why such a smart, legend in your own mind graduate of the North Avenue Trade School just got replaced by a guy from Bombay Polytechnical Institute. Georgia Tech! LMAO!
By DirtDobber
July 11, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
I intentionally did not comment on Bisher because I am unworthy to do so . I will respect whatever the man says .
On the other hand, I already covered Bradley . [Ok - I cant help myself] The best part of him ran down his Mama’s leg .
By BankDawg
July 11, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
The nerds on here still have not addressed my initial question. You continually enjoy pointing out we lost to Vandy and Kentucky. Vandy came within 6 points of beating the national champions. Kentucky slapped Clemson around. Tell me, how did the Bees do against Clemson? Can any of you nerds answer this?
By SorryBoutThat
July 11, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
jabster, I really do hate to break it to you little buddy, but there are about 8 teams in the SEC that would blow through an ACC schedule like Sherman through Georgia. You have ONE…ONE consistently good team left in your entire league. VT. And look what happened to them at the hands of UGA. FSU has been mediocre at best post CMR’s OC days. Miami is on the slide. Get below those guys and it really gets weak. Kentucky would be a contender in the ACC. A Spurrier coached USC team could probably win the ACC title consistently. The ACC gets weaker each and every year. Maybe it’s time to pull a rabbit out of the hat and ask Louisville to join. Maybe WVU. Of course that would be really bad news for the trade school wouldn’t it? But at least then you could honestly claim to have a little muscle in your league.
By UGuysAreDumb
July 11, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this
just so you guys know more manufacturing jobs are outsourced every year than IT, in fact more jobs are sent to mexico than all of Asia, and most IT jobs that are outsourced are lower income jobs that Tech grads wouldn’t bother with, and high paid engineering jobs aren’t outsourced, so Tech grads arent the one’s who need to worry about the H1B.
I personally think this argument is hilarious, GT sucks and UGA is overrated, you all keep repeating the same points over and over, yes we know, GT doesn’t have many fans, and UGA has a lot of trailer trash fans, anyone who has ever lived in Georgia can figure this out in 5 seconds, but thanks for the free entertainment
By gt in sc
July 11, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
hey rank dog; get back to your teller window before your boss sees you writing these imbecilic comments on this blog. you lost to vandy and ky. GET OVER IT!!
By Darren in the Springs
July 11, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
Just by reading the posts you should be able to pick out the band-wagoners. They are usually the ones making the smart@$$ comments.
BankDawg a loss is a loss no matter how many points you lose by so why do you keep harping on how Tech did against Clemson?
I am a lifelong Tech fan, and sure losing hurts but it is not the end of the world. I know many UGA alumni and we get along just fine. Sure there is some good natured fun, but in the end it is only a game. No matter who wins or loses your life goes on.
Following college sports, and seeing a Tech game when I can is a nice release for me. Being in the military the last 18 years has never kept me away from at least following along since most places I have been never have live broadcasts. It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people can be.
BTW Fisher great article. Agree it is way too early to start making any kind of predictions on anyone. Will be interesting to see how Air Force does with their new coach.
Peace out from Colorado.
By jabster
July 11, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
Frank Howard: I guess burger flippers don’t have to worry about being outsourced…although the person on the other end of the drive-thru mic might be. No deseo papas fritas con eso.
GTinSC: Who said that BankDawg worked at a money bank? There’s other kinds of “banks” that would probably be better suited to their kinds of “deposits”.
And Sorry (at least the name fits)- the ACC has a bad year or two and all you SEC fans think that the ACC is on a waterslide to hell. It wasn’t that long ago that the ACC was romping the SEC, even Wake would beat Vandy in the Toilet Bowl, and the ACC sent just about everyone except Duke to a bowl.
I’ll give the SEC their props for last year, but to say that the ACC is going downhill (and that Tech needs to drop to a lower division) is just STUPID. Quit hanging around with Quitsy Carter—you’re getting a contact high.
By B.J Patel
July 11, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
UGuysAreDumb, my H1B is almost processed. I will be there to take your job very soon. Don’t let your arrogance turn up your overrated nose at the trailer park that you will soon be living in. You just might need to borrow some food stamps from one of your classmates that my cousins, brothers, and uncles, have already replaced. We here in India laugh at the overinflated sense of worth that you trade school guys have of yourselves. But we do sincerely hope that you will consider working for us as our cads operators. We offer very nice (but small) cubicles and 12.50 per hour in compensation. That is the tops that you are worth. And remember Bombay Polytechnic rocks! GT….well can you say OVERRATED!!! ROFL!
By reality check
July 11, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
Some keep bashing Georgia about losing to Kentucky and Vanderbilt, but those were not bad teams last year. Kentucky had the best offense in the SEC East, second only to LSU in the SEC. They have a number of very good pro prospects on that offense, including the best quarterback in the SEC and one of the best receivers.
Kentucky had a very young defense and most of those guys are back this year. They have the chance to be a very good team this year.
Last year Vanderbilt gave Alabama, Arkansas, and Florida all they could handle and they played Michigan close until late in the fourth quarter. They have the most returning starters of any team in the SEC including arguably the best wide receiver and linebacker in the SEC.
It was disappointing Georgia didn’t win against those two teams, but in a rebuilding year and Coutu out for those games they weren’t the shameful upsets some are trying to make it.
By 6inarowandcounting
July 11, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
By gt in sc
July 11, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
hey rank dog; get back to your teller window before your boss sees you writing these imbecilic comments on this blog. you lost to vandy and ky. GET OVER IT!!
If you could count to 6 you would realize just how stupid your above post is. We thought Reggie was dumb for not being able to count to 4, but obviously he’s not the only dumbazz over at the trade school. 6 in a row loser….soon to be 7. Maybe once you have finally passed 1st grade the numbers will give you a little humility.
By BankDawg
July 11, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
Typical tech childishness. I ask you a simple question and then you infer that I am stupid and that I work on the lowest rung at a bank, and even that I somehow work at a sperm bank. You people really are the scum of the earth. Are you really this insecure? Somebody makes a valid point, then asks you to refute it, and you attack his character. No wonder you nerds will always be entry level. I wouldn’t hire any of you. Not even to be tellers.
By chanys a trany
July 11, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
congrats tech!! now that OU has to nullify all their 2005 wins.. yall just moved up to 23rd in the BCS!That’s still 17 behind UGA.. Reggie wasn’t the problem the coaches who let him stay out there are. If ignorance is bliss Tech is Disney world.
By chanys a trany
July 11, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
a guy named BJ has no room to talk smack..
By UGuysAreDumb
July 11, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
Well hello there B.J. Patel, so your coming here for my job, oh wait, isn’t there a shortage of employees for IT jobs in India, and isn’t India outsourcing their IT jobs to China, that’s right they are! congratulations, you are still dumb and obviously know very little about the global job market, and btw i don’t go to tech or work in an IT related field.
I only made the comment because i got tired of how the argument was straying away from football, and focusing on things about players being arrested and stadium seating and just in general bashing each others schools. If you are going to vent about football, then actually vent about football
By jabster
July 11, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Hey BankDawg - quit whining. That’s what you get when you make gratuitous, disparaging, smartaleck side comments in all of your posts. You started it—quit whining like you don’t know what happened. Now take it like a big boy or get the heck off this board. No crying in football.
Clemson was our ONLY regular-season conference loss, FWIW.
We should all know by now that you can’t use the “A beats B, B beats C, therefore A beats C” math rules in football, so your line of reasoning is silly. Otherwise one upset would entitle a lucky team to the national championship.
Yes, I am sure it hurts to lose to Vandy and UK. It hurts to lose to Wake and a sorry UGA team (run the numbers) because your QB is such a freakin’ head case who should have been riding the pine. It hurts a lot less to lose to a decent team (Clemson) who brought their A-game when you didn’t.
By Dirty Jacket
July 11, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
How I wished some NFL team would have taken Gailey off of our hands. I was so excited (and mystified) when he was getting NFL interviews. Alas, another season with Gailey at the helm. Another 8-4 isn’t so bad…if you’re team wasn’t stacked with talent. This could be an interesting season, our more challenging opponents are at home (Clemson, VT, UGA), and we may be thugged enough to handle the convicts in the OB (although losing Ball and Houston hurts our thuggedity).
By Luther
July 11, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
By JustMe - Finally, you need to education yourself in history if you are going to try to make any statements to explain why Tech left the SEC!
Gettin my learn on at GT.
By gdawginkalamazoo
July 11, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
SorryBoutThat, what do you mean a Spurrier coached SC team could win the ACC title? Dude, a Spurrier coached DUKE team could win the ACC.
JStett33GT, I don’t know if I would get too excited about your new OC. I went to the great Garrett Wolfe play here against Western Michigan last year. I was hoping to see him run up 200-300+ yards against the Broncos. Man was I disappointed. He had 25 yards rushing about 40 receiving. Evidently, that offense was easy to figure out. Wolfe said after the game that the Broncos had something for everything they threw at them. I think Wolfe also had a couple of more games where he didn’t do so well either. So if the opposing defensive coordinator studies the films you guys might be in trouble even though you do have Choice (which IMO is a damn good back). The other Johnson #89? will be an impact player too. Just can’t understand why Bennett didn’t get more opportunities. Was there poison in the locker room against him starting? Seems like the players should have/could have made something happen.
By Todd
July 11, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
I find claims that Tech fans are delusional whiners caught up in misguided optimism based on fantasized history are quite comedic coming from Dogs.
I see all of the whining, unprovoked insults, and excuses being made by Georgia fans.
The article is not making any outright claims — instead putting out thoughts to ponder. I don’t see any Georgia fans doing any pondering.
Anyone care to explain why ya’ll are so defensive?
By scooter11
July 11, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Just ran some numbers, jabster, and I come up with something like 200 yards of offense by the jackettes in Athens last year, and - wait a minute - quite a few more by the Dawgs against the fearsome tenuta D. Didn’t take an ‘A’ game to beat you, so we didn’t bring it.
By tenndawg
July 11, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Hey Dense Pup,
You might be right that the sales of F-350’s is going up, but that has nothing to do with income or education. The F-350 I just bought was right @ $60,000. That’s about the same price as my wife’s Benz. Why did I buy it? Because I need a new truck to do some work on the 85 acres I just bought as my own little outdoor playground. You certainly don’t need an engineering degree to make money. I’ve got 18 engineers who work FOR me and they get paid quite well, but not as well as their UGA grad boss.
By 2N4YEARS
July 11, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
UGuysAreDumb: Sorry, but I don’t understand your logic…or lack of. As bad as I bad-mouth TECH, they are usually a half decent team. UGA, on the other hand, you say is over-rated?? Hummm… Funny how you conveniently forgot to mention who you pulled for. UGA has won 2 SEC Titles within the last 5 years —and been there 3 times! The SEC is THE toughest conference in the land. Just ask OHIO ST. In fact, there was a piece last year that was on ‘The Most Consistently Over-rated and Under-rated teams in the country, and do you know who those were?? Notre Dame was the most consistently over-rated team in CFB. UGA, on the other hand, was in the top 10 of consistently being under-rated. Now, who’s dumb??
By gdawginkalamazoo
July 11, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
Hey guys, seriously you can’t come on here talk smack about who Tech lost to last year when we got beat by KY and Vandy. Although both were very good versions of KY and Vandy. It is just a plain and simple rule of smack talk. Now we can definitely run smack at Toke since we were victorious last year, and the year before, and the year before that, and the year before that, ..I am getting carpal tunnel typing this….
By 2N4YEARS
July 11, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
dense pup : You condem UGA fans from posting on a cfb blog, yet you do the same thing. Hummm. Yeah, that makes a lot of sence. I would ‘live & breath’ cfb either if UGA sucked like TECH does.
By mcdawg
July 11, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
You are right-too early to talk about UGA-Tech-lets talk about UGA vs. OSU-I think our O-Line is going to be nasty-this is going to be a high scoring Offensive machine-
By jabster
July 11, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Scooter-
I checked the numbers. UGA got ~60 more yards of offense. Those 255 total yards only netted 8 offensive points. They also got 45 more yards of penalties. Some offensive showing.
For the difference and what qualifies as a “win”, you have to look at Tech’s -2 turnover ratio (2 INTs and 1 fumble—thanks, Reggie!) which led to 7 UGA defensive points (ditto). I am not going to give UGA’s D the credit on the turnovers, and neither should you. Be sure to send your thank-you note to Reginald L** Ball.
The only good part of that game was the end. UGA fans got a win, but everyone else got relief from a sorry, excruciatingly bad game that IMNSHO only Tech’s D could be proud of.
In the last four games, the series has been marked by sorry play by both teams’ offenses and both teams trying to hang on for dear life. Unless you are a UGA fan there’s no appeal in those games. None.
By DawgBite
July 11, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
And who can you thank for Reginald L. “footinmouth” Ball jabster? That facsimile of a coach that you “influential” Tech alum just don’t have the juice to get rid of. Oh well, life as a techmite football fan sure does suck and I feel real sorry for you jabster.
By DawgBite
July 11, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
Check these numbers jabster. 164 to 73. Know what that is jabster? I’ll give you a clue. It has to do with the number 6.
By DawgBite
July 11, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
Being a numbers guy jabster would you be willing to tell us the significance of 38-58-5? Would you be so kind?
By DawgBite
July 11, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this
By jabster
July 11, 2007 4:59 PM The only good part of that game was the end. UGA fans got a win, but everyone else got relief from a sorry, excruciatingly bad game that IMNSHO only Tech’s D could be proud of.
Yeah jabster. Tech’s D really did stand and deliver at the end of that game didn’t they? The way they kept that true freshman QB from driving the field on them was just classic.
By jabster
July 11, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
Scooter-
I checked the numbers. UGA got ~60 more yards of offense. Those 255 total yards only netted 8 offensive points. They also got 45 more yards of penalties. Some offensive showing.
For the difference and what qualifies as a “win”, you have to look at Tech’s -2 turnover ratio (2 INTs and 1 fumble—thanks, Reggie!) which led to 7 UGA defensive points (ditto). I am not going to give UGA’s D the credit on the turnovers, and neither should you. Be sure to send your thank-you note to Reginald L** Ball.
The only good part of that game was the end. UGA fans got a win, but everyone else got relief from a sorry, excruciatingly bad game that IMNSHO only Tech’s D could be proud of.
In the last four games, the series has been marked by sorry play by both teams’ offenses and both teams trying to hang on for dear life. Unless you are a UGA fan there’s no appeal in those games. None.
By jabster
July 11, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
Dawgbite:
Re: 38-58-5, are those the measurements of your wife?
By DawgBite
July 11, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this
Amusing answer jabster, but I do believe that is the overall series record between UGA and you mites.
By Gwen
July 11, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
Dear Question Man - I don’t know if Mr. Bisher’s son played for Tech or for any other college. I remember a few of the famous players of that time like Hershel Walker or Eddie Lee Ivory, but I don’t remember Bisher. I would not think that giving your son very little playing time would endear a place to a parent, though. I’ve been on that side of the story for sure.
By S.E. Dawg
July 11, 2007 8:19 PM | Link to this
Buck I’m with you. This is nothing but crap and bashing. Not much to do with real football. I would like to know how many the Cowboys are returning on defense also.
Is Vance Cuff finished in trying to get to Athens this year? I think if I were his parents or school officials I would get a good lawyer and get to the bottom of the whole thing.
By Southga
July 11, 2007 9:18 PM | Link to this
To the idiot UGA fans, two-thirds of Tech’s student body is Georgian. Three-Fourths of UGA’s student body is Georgian. After about 10 minutes when you figure out the difference you will realize it is not that much. Whew! “What Planet!”
By Stephen
July 11, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this
Yes vol fans, we did lose to Vandy at home…what happened last time YOU played them at home?
By daniel
July 11, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this
I see summer school is now over and the middle school Bug fans have nothing to do in the day. Can’t you boys go pop pimples or count the peach fuzz on your chin so these blogs can rise above 5th grade level thinking?
By Matt
July 11, 2007 10:18 PM | Link to this
“Anyone care to explain why ya’ll are so defensive?”
By Matt
July 11, 2007 10:20 PM | Link to this
“Anyone care to explain why ya’ll are so defensive?”
Maybe we’re sick of hearing things out of a team that we absolutely own. You know, like 6 wins in a row kind of own. What on god’s green earth gives any Tech fan the idea that they can say one word about Georgia? I don’t understand it. Please punch it into your pocket calculator and help me out.
Georgia Tech=JOKE. All talk and excuses. No action. Your program is a laughing stock. 6 in a row and counting. 15 of the last 20. Georgia craps bigger than Georgia Tech. End of story.
By reality check
July 11, 2007 10:35 PM | Link to this
S.E. Dawg, to answer your question Oklahoma State returns 7 starters and many top reserves, but they lost their entire defensive line, including key backups. Their defense last year wasn’t very good. In fact, one reason their defensive results were as good as they were was the offense kept the ball so long.
One reason to be optimistic about the game is good defense trumps good offense and Georgia is way better on defense. Oklahoma State’s offense was much better than Georgia’s last year, but we were way down offensively last year. I think we will be back to normal on offense this year.
By GTman
July 11, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this
Reality Check,
You need to get one! Talk about OK State’s losses on defense, have you looked at UGAs losses on defense? Front seven plus Tra Battle. Forget it about it. UGA loses to OK State, and road games in Knoxville, J’ville, and T-town. UGA will have 5 losses going into the Tech game with loss number 6 coming on November 24th.
THWG!
By GTman
July 11, 2007 11:08 PM | Link to this
Reality Check,
You need to get one! Talk about OK State’s losses on defense, have you looked at UGAs losses on defense? Front seven plus Tra Battle. Forget about it. UGA loses to OK State, and road games in Knoxville, J’ville, and T-town. UGA will have 5 losses going into the Tech game with loss number 6 coming on November 24th.
THWG!
By Top Dawg
July 11, 2007 11:20 PM | Link to this
Go Dawgs!!!
By pdawg
July 11, 2007 11:27 PM | Link to this
Some ‘reality check’…keep on dreaming. Georgia offense would be smoking and you know how you bugs(bees) hate smoke. That is the reason why you are not beating UGA anytime soon. So keep on dreaming…we will come with the smoke and take your honey.
By south_ga
July 11, 2007 11:54 PM | Link to this
UGA is a football factory while GT is a world class institution. If UGA loses a football game they act like the whole world is coming to an end … maybe because football is their whole world.
By John
July 12, 2007 12:02 AM | Link to this
Teams like Tech and South Carolina that have been mired in mediocrity for years,continually refer to moral victories like who won the last National Championship or “we have only lost by a few points so we’re getting closer.” That means nothing but is an excuse. Read the tech blogs. They want to beat Georgia more than anyone. When Georgia plays Tech it is usually on the way to a bowl or the SEC championship and Tech is playing their heart out. It is still for bragging rights but getting closer means nothing unless you have a 51-7 shellacking in recent years to compare it to. Tech is a great school and has a fine football traditon but this is a different day and age. Sure Tech can win and they are getting better atheletes on the flats at all times, be realistic in your estimate of ther game and the rivalry.
By 92BUZZ
July 12, 2007 12:14 AM | Link to this
Oh, how the usual keeps repeating itself. Tech and UGA should both be good this year, with the hopes of each dependent on the QB (of course).
What really gets me, time after time, is the vitriol (look that word up, UGA fans who never went to UGA and have a GED) with which trailor park scum shower Georgia Tech.
In my experience, most people who actually have a DEGREE from UGA are civil, and can discuss football with a bit of class. We Tech grads like to talk with most of them, and admit that UGA historically wins 2 out of 3 against us; we also like to point out how we have a more recent national championship and MORE of a tradition in football. It’s all ‘good old-fashioned hate’, as that wonderful late pro-UGA journalist called it.(I loved Grizzard)
The only problem we Tech fans really have is with those NON-UGA graduates, who probably constitute the majority of the scum who have posted the nasty comments here, and definitely constitute a majority of the fan base.
To those people: Yeah, UGA wins more than us. But you know what? We love our SCHOOL even more than we love our football team, and we laugh at the thought that y’all think that is stupid. We will gladly continue to have a school that makes its athletes take REAL courses, and beat a pure football factory 1/3 of the time (a football factory where “athletes” can take courses and majors that should embarrass anyone who knows the meaning of word education).
Continue to insult us, you GED types…..
In the meantime, we will have civil conversations with actual UGA graduates, and we JUST may beat UGA this year.
By 92BUZZ
July 12, 2007 12:18 AM | Link to this
Oh, how the usual keeps repeating itself. Tech and UGA should both be good this year, with the hopes of each dependent on the QB (of course).
What really gets me, time after time, is the vitriol (look that word up, UGA fans who never went to UGA and have a GED) with which trailor park scum shower Georgia Tech.
In my experience, most people who actually have a DEGREE from UGA are civil, and can discuss football with a bit of class. We Tech grads like to talk with most of them, and admit that UGA historically wins 2 out of 3 against us; we also like to point out how we have a more recent national championship and MORE of a tradition in football. It’s all ‘good old-fashioned hate’, as that wonderful late pro-UGA journalist called it.(I loved Grizzard)
The only problem we Tech fans really have is with those NON-UGA graduates, who probably constitute the majority of the scum who have posted the nasty comments here, and definitely constitute a majority of the fan base.
To those people: Yeah, UGA wins more than us. But you know what? We love our SCHOOL even more than we love our football team, and we laugh at the thought that y’all think that is stupid. We will gladly continue to have a school that makes its athletes take REAL courses, and beat a pure football factory 1/3 of the time (a football factory where “athletes” can take courses and majors that should embarrass anyone who knows the meaning of word education).
Continue to insult us, you GED types…..
In the meantime, we will have civil conversations with actual UGA graduates, and we JUST may beat UGA this year.
And we will laugh our butts off at the typical mullet-wearing UGA fan who calls us ‘nerds’, because there are plenty of Tech alums like me who played linebacker, and LOVE to hear that.