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DEL.ICIO.USCould Petrino have second thoughts?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Jeff Schultz
THE TUESDAY COUNTDOWN…
10: The problem with trying to celebrate Bobby Cox’s record-breaking ejection is that the umpires are going to make him leave the field - and when he gets to the clubhouse, he’s going to be the only one there. Maybe they should leave an ice-cream cake in the fridge?
9: Yankees fans can’t wait for Roger Clemens to start - because then maybe they can catch the Devil Rays.
8: I realize one reason that Bobby Petrino took the Falcons job was because he wanted to see what he could do with Michael Vick for one season. But at what point does he think, “Is this worth it?”
7: No, we don’t know where the DogGate is going. But we know that the Falcons’ entire off-season has been - and will continue to be - disrupted by the investigation. That’s mini-camps, OTAs and meetings when Petrino is trying to implement a new scheme.
6: You, the optimistic Falcon fan, might think: “Training camp isn’t until July. The season isn’t until September.” But this case doesn’t seem close to resolution. Watch how quickly July and September get here.
5: The Evander Holyfield-Lou Savarese fight has been billed, “The Road to the Heavyweight Championship.” I guess, “The Road to Nowhere” would have made the banner too short.
4: Evidence of how far off the radar the Anaheim-Ottawa Stanley Cup final is: NHL officials phoned newspaper beat writers who aren’t traveling to cover the series in hopes of drumming up interest so they would write stories.
3: By the way, for those who poo-poo ESPN’s interview with the dog-fighting insider, saying he’s a bottom feeder and lacks credibility: People - he’s in dog-fighting. Did you think the “insider” would be a nuclear physicist or brain surgeon?
2: But if you really want a reason to turn down the sound on ESPN, here’s one: Keyshawn Johnson.
1: Kobe Bryant is upset that there aren’t any good players around him and the Lakers have a lousy general manager. Gee. Maybe he shouldn’t have chased everybody away.
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By dee
May 29, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
you suck schultz
By green tea
May 29, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Wow, was #9 really a sentence? I have no clue what it meant…
By TOM WOLNASD
May 29, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
ALL N****
By TOM WOLNASD
May 29, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
ALL N****
By Russ
May 29, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
The Schaub trade keeps looking worse every day.
By celawjr
May 29, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
I find it disheartening that in today’s society we, as Americans, still find it with in ourselves to pass blind judgment. Historically, it has been knee-jerk responses by angry, irrational, and often hateful people and organizations that have led to firings, wrongful convictions, and even death. I am not saying who is guilty and who is not, but I do know that in the media’s court,the idea of guilt has been satisfied with mere accusations. In criminal court you need proof BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Some of you may not want to hear this but its true, we all rush to judgment on sensational issues and we are sometimes proven wrong. This reminds me of an old-fashioned lynching of a slave, and its not because Michael Vick is an African American (solely) but because of the blood-in the water feeding frenzy that has taken place and the fact that his life is controlled by the watchful eye of public opinion. If you will allow me I can show you each player’s role. Roger Goodell is the plantation owner, but he just works them he is not really calling the shots. The team “owners” they are the overseer’s, they have to check everyone when they are told by the plantation owner. But that’s never how the lynching takes place, why? because the plantation only runs smoothly when everyone can work, if you take one away you can’t get as much work done. Have you ever heard the story of Emmit Till, or Mack Charles Parker, or Rosewood, or Black Wall Street…well that’s when the lynching takes place. The lynching is caused by an accusation, be it true or false, and that accusation festering like a sore, spreading like wildfire, and outraging the townsfolk. The media is the outraged townspeople, the woman crying rape, and ultimately the lynchmob. They are the one’s that are telling Goodell you better whoop your boy, and Goodell may just be spineless enough to oblige. Do I know if Mike Vick did anything? No (but I he has not been accused of anything and I hope that he did not) and people have been wrong about him before (see water bottle). Do I believe the words of a man that has made a career out of snitching and is now saying people are worried about Vick snitching (well what does that guy have to gain from talking to espn and hell shouldn’t people be worried about him snitching?) I know that right now this seems to be leading toward the lynching of mike vick (not literally) but in effigy by killing his career. Its o.k. to not like him because he went 7-9 or you got mad cause he flipped the bird, My challenge to everyone, including Jeff Schultz, Terrence Moore, and Roger Goodell, is to not make up your mind about his guilt or his innocence w/out any real evidence of wrongdoing and to not play a role in this lynch mob mentality by convicting a man who has not even been charged or accused of a crime.
By green tea
May 29, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this
Nice editing, you’re welcome nimrod.
By Jonathan
May 29, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Here is my question about the “insider”, in the interview he states without out a doubt he saw Vick in 2000 at a fight waving around $30,000 and $40,000 dollars at a fight. So since Vick wasn’t drafted until April of 2001, should this story be tossed or should we look closer at VT booster club funding.
By Dr.Doom
May 29, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Whether Vick is convicted of anything or not is irrelevant. That fact is, he’s constantly displaying a lack of character, intelligence,and not to mention, passing skills. I would say get rid of him, but that would mean Joey Harrington would be QB: Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
By FREEDOG
May 29, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Introducing the QB for the Atlanta Falcons…
7Mike Convick
By L. M. Hull
May 29, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
He was raising fighting dogs but not to have them fight. Yeah, right!
By Gerald Burdette
May 29, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
Jeff, it very clear that you are utilizing “Dog-gate” as more ammo in your long-standig agenda to run Vick out of town. The “insider” on ESPN is nothing more than a low-level “snitch.” If you had done only 5 minutes of research on the Surrey County dog-fighting taskforce you would know that they have convicted only three people from over 13 cases and 6 years. Given those statistics, you MUST ask the following questions: 1. how reliable can this “insider” be with this low success rate? 2. If his accusations are so reliable, why haven’t charges been brought? 3. Don’t you find it inconsistent that the “insider” could describe only one incident (over 6 years ago) that he alledgedly encountered Vick at a dog-fight yet he labelled Vick a “heavyweight” although Vick dog was alledgedly defeated? 4. Don’t realize that people from all socio-economic status have been involved dog-fighting? If you would have just researched the arrests from the dog-fighting raid in Newton County two years ago, you would have noticed this. However, that would have required that you act like a journalist and write a balanced article. The sad reality is that the majority of your peer sports writers are no better.
By Dr.Doom
May 29, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
Jonathan,
The answer to your question is no. Even though that incident is before he was drafted by the falcons, it is still related information to an ongoing current investigation.It’s for all those idiots that said there has never been any evidence that Vick is involved with dog fighting. That’s kind of how it works bub.
By K. Juniel
May 29, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
If Vick wins games this season none of you are going to care about this dog fighting thing. Winning is all that matters.
By DKM
May 29, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
Petrino knew what he was getting into when he was hired! Mr. Blank paid him a lot of money to look the other way on Mr. Vick! They know he is a “Doper” and the league is using him to market themselves. This has been going on for three years, he never had any issues before this. Hopefully, after this season, he will be traded to the Giants for Manning or Oakland for Russell and the Falcons can move towards fixing the franchise. This season is and will be a disaster! I don’t think Harrington can save us but you never know! As for Kobe, they don’t have enough foreign players in LA to carry his water. The trend is very clear, the strong fundamentals and good shooting tech
By DKM
May 29, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
Petrino knew what he was getting into when he was hired! Mr. Blank paid him a lot of money to look the other way on Mr. Vick! They know he is a “Doper” and the league is using him to market themselves. This has been going on for three years, he never had any issues before this. Hopefully, after this season, he will be traded to the Giants for Manning or Oakland for Russell and the Falcons can move towards fixing the franchise. This season is and will be a disaster! I don’t think Harrington can save us but you never know! As for Kobe, they don’t have enough foreign players in LA to carry his water. The trend is very clear, the strong fundamentals and good shooting tech
By boots
May 29, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
The “blood in the water” causing the frenzy is from Vick shooting himself in the foot —- not once, but time after time.
And, by the way C.J., your plantation analogy is ridiculous!
Adios.
By Headhunter
May 29, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
Why hate on Keyshawn? I find him a rather refreshing change from the likes of Micheal Irvin.
By Hey green tea
May 29, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
green tea,
what the hell did you expect them to do after reading your brilliant post?
please correct the fact that i should have used some capital letters in these sentences.
By Etowah parent
May 29, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Is it a concidence that Vick and Kobe are now being talked about in the same sentences? I think not. They’re both products of a system that weighs little on character and more on talent. Remember Ricky Williams?
As a true Falcons fan, I hope this goes away but as a realist, it’s only going to get worse. Do you think Houston would reconsider the trade? If not then 3 or 4 wins will be a good season this year.
By ispeakthedrewth
May 29, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
In case you weren’t paying attention, here’s a quick recap:
How I Spent My Summer Vacation by Peyton Manning 1) Studied game film and playbooks 2) Worked out religiously 3) Served as a role model for youth and citizens of my community 4) Honored the legacy of my father 5) Shined my Super Bowl ring
How I Spent My Summer Vacation by Michael Vick 1) Smoked dope 2) Hung out with my homies 3) Played water boy for my stable of pit bulls 4) Donated an embarrassing pittance to Virginia Tech, my alma mater, in memory of shooting victims 5) Served as a role model for thugs everywhere
So who do you think is on the verge of NFL immortality and who is on the verge of a prison sentence?
By DKM
May 29, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
To complete my thought, all four teams in the semis in the NBA have foreign born players playing key roles. Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Ilgauskas, etc…In order to compete you need these players who can shoot, defend, and pass. Because of our lack of coaching at the AAU level only a tremendous physical specimen like James can make it in the NBA. By the way, Kobe learned his game in Italy!
By SMAD
May 29, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
“Here is my question about the “insider”, in the interview he states without out a doubt he saw Vick in 2000 at a fight waving around $30,000 and $40,000 dollars at a fight. So since Vick wasn’t drafted until April of 2001, should this story be tossed or should we look closer at VT booster club funding.”
In response to Johnathan’s ignorant reply above…it was reported by the “insider” to be approx $5000 in 2000. He clearly stated the $30-40,000 came in a year after the Falcon’s paid to much for him. Listen before you blurt out your stupidity.
By Bushwacker
May 29, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
to K. Juniel you are wrong about winning being all that matters, that tells me you have no morals either.
I SAID BEFORE , IF THE FALCONS WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR WITH, I WILL NOT BE WATCHING ANYMORE AS LONG AS HE IS THE QB.
By Brill
May 29, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
I think the main flaw with the plantation analogy is that slaves didn’t have $125,000,000 contracts.
By Zeek
May 29, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
You people kill me talking about Matt Schaub………He wasn’t a winner in college, and he hasn’t proven anything in the NFL. Also, why is it not a big deal when a jockey sits on the back of a horse and beats it to make it run to a finish line? I guess if the jockeys were African American, then it would be a problem!
By celawjr
May 29, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
why is it ridiculous boots? I’m listening.
By Barry
May 29, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Hey Y’all:
Let the legal system do its thing. If Vick is guilty or innocent leave it to the courts and not the media. However, those of you who respond on this blog accusing Vick already appear to want to point the finger at somebody doing wrong to minimize the guilt and stress in your own personal life. It is always good to say “aha, I caught you” if you got something. But here, there is nothing. What we do have is a “crack head” informant who is probaly negotiating and plea bargain with the feds to lowers some charges against him. They are willing to say anyhting. No informant should be given the title of “legitimate informant”. They are all liars and can be co-opted to say anyhting law enforcement wants them to say, for a price or something to make a deal with. Where the hell did the find this dirt bag. This investigation is really getting low down. They are reaching all the way back to before Vick was in the NFL. Let’s stop these “shananagans”. He is not in high school or college. Stop looking for those he may have known him then, who are now criminals looking for an out. He is currently in the NFL and has been there since 2001. Seven years.
God Bless You Vick. I hope they diminish this thing like that of the rape that was at Patrick Kearney’s house. Like the drugs that Brett Favre is addicted to. Like the out of wedlock birth Tom Brady had. Let’s be equal in how we judge and investigate our athletes. Vick, you will be vindicated, as you should be, in this case. Hearsay and innuendo’s should not apply hear. Your only crime, if you want to call it one, is the bad people and relatives he has associated himself with. We are all guilty of that at times.
SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Thisis a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY.
Ringold
By Barry
May 29, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Hey Y’all:
Let the legal system do its thing. If Vick is guilty or innocent leave it to the courts and not the media. However, those of you who respond on this blog accusing Vick already appear to want to point the finger at somebody doing wrong to minimize the guilt and stress in your own personal life. It is always good to say “aha, I caught you” if you got something. But here, there is nothing. What we do have is a “crack head” informant who is probaly negotiating and plea bargain with the feds to lowers some charges against him. They are willing to say anyhting. No informant should be given the title of “legitimate informant”. They are all liars and can be co-opted to say anyhting law enforcement wants them to say, for a price or something to make a deal with. Where the hell did the find this dirt bag. This investigation is really getting low down. They are reaching all the way back to before Vick was in the NFL. Let’s stop these “shananagans”. He is not in high school or college. Stop looking for those he may have known him then, who are now criminals looking for an out. He is currently in the NFL and has been there since 2001. Seven years.
God Bless You Vick. I hope they diminish this thing like that of the rape that was at Patrick Kearney’s house. Like the drugs that Brett Favre is addicted to. Like the out of wedlock birth Tom Brady had. Let’s be equal in how we judge and investigate our athletes. Vick, you will be vindicated, as you should be, in this case. Hearsay and innuendo’s should not apply hear. Your only crime, if you want to call it one, is the bad people and relatives he has associated himself with. We are all guilty of that at times.
SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! This a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY.
Ringold
By Barney Strickland
May 29, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
I had classes with Mike Vick while EARNING my degree @ VT. He was/is incredibly stupid. My god, he was fast/stupid !! Will he learn an NFL playbook ? Doubt it. I’m a loyal Hokie but what did we expect from a guy from the same neighborhood as A. Iverson ? A rocket scientist ? Solution : Suspend him for the entire season. The only thing that he notices is his wallet. Sad to say, but he’s nothing but a ghetto thug. Notice how he garners no endorsements ? What a bum. We let the true professional get away to Texas. It’s a sad day for Falcons fans.
By hirsutedawg
May 29, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Jeff, I agree with all but #2. After Michael Irvin, Keyshawn will be a breath of fresh air.
By Falcons Dude
May 29, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Vick Schmick…bring back Bartkowski!
By Haley's Comet
May 29, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
I am not a Vick hater but a true falcons fan and have been since my teenage years. The one thing that bothers me the most is that this whole off season has been surrounded by bad news day after day and as a fan it’s hard to swollow that our season hasn’t even started yet but I feel as if it is already over. Every year I have looked foward to the coming season with the wonder of how good we are going to be, but this year is different than any other. Now I wonder of what bad news will come our way today. Mr. Vick, gulity or not I wish you would surround yourself with better people so these sort of things don’t happen. Mr. Blank, you need to be a better leader of your team to not allow this sort of stuff to disrupt the team. I know that you can not make a stance on this yet but when you can it needs to be a strong one. If you think I am angery you would be correct to think so, after all I am a fan.
By Juice Drinker
May 29, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
If Mike Vick is brought up on charges for animal abuse, I hope he doesn’t decide to pull an “OJ” and FLEA from the cops.
By L. M. Hull
May 29, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
To those who keep quoting us chapter and verse about how you are innocent until proven quilty: Pacman Jones has not been charged with or found guilty of the the major incidents in which he has been involved, but he has been suspended for the season. So, whats fair for the goose…..I can’t remember the rest. Maybe Gander Vick can help me.
By K-dawg
May 29, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
THIS JUST IN….The organization didn’t believe in Schaub. The organization cannot feel like he was the missing link or else they would’ve kept him. The Falcons are notorious for paying guys too much money and decided not to spend that money on Schaub. And you may be right that he’s a true professional because the rest of us wouldn’t know since he didn’t show it on the field…but are you referring to the way he handled the barfight and arrest…like a professional?
By Jenny
May 29, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Run, Coach Petrino, RUN !!!!!!!!
By Dog Fan
May 29, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
I have supported Mike Vick for quite some time, but these new allegations may be what break the camel’s back. It’s true that there may not be enough evidence to convict him in a criminal court right now, if ever at all. But the fact remains that with each passing day things look worse and worse for Vick. While I don’t think he can be convicted for breaking the law right now on mostly circumstantial evidence, it may certainly be time for the Falcons to cut him loose. If you or I had this type of allegation floating around, we would be fired on the spot without a bit of further investigation. Mike Vick may be a superstar, but he certainly doesn’t deserve any better treatment than what we would receive if we were charged with this gruesome and disgusting felony.
By JT7
May 29, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Quick…Turn on UFC…That’s right “human beings” fighting for sport and idiots pay to watch it…hypocritical morons. Stop the witchhunting…Facts convict and facts set free…So shut up until there are some FACTS!!!
By Pete
May 29, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Boy, I didn’t hear this much RAGE when a woman was RAPED in Patrick Kerney’s house while he was “supposedly” asleep. Why hasn’t Shultz or the ajc written any articles about that? I have several questions…….
By Pepe
May 29, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
20 Days and 20 Hours until Training Camp…I can’t wait to talk football.
Go Falcons and Vick (until the courts let us all in on what’s really going on)!!!
By green tea
May 29, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
who is “them”? You sir, are what the French would call Le Douche and you probably agree with Clinton Portis’ idiotic statements.
By Live Life
May 29, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
For all you racist Vick haters I have a great idea! Move to Mississippi and start a franchise then trade for Peyton Manning. Yeah you must wear shoes to compete in the NFL. Keey your head up Vick see you this season.
By Live Life
May 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
For all you racist Vick haters I have a great idea! Move to Mississippi and start a franchise then trade for Peyton Manning. Yeah you must wear shoes to compete in the NFL. Keep your head up Vick see you this season.
By Live Life
May 29, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
For all you racist Vick haters I have a great idea! Move to Mississippi and start a franchise then trade for Peyton Manning. Yeah you must wear shoes to compete in the NFL. Keep your head up Vick see you this season.
By Amy
May 29, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
News Alert to ALL HATERS:
Even if Mike Vick is convicted….he will pay a big fine, the NFL will suspend him for 2 or 3 games then he will CONTINUE to be the QB of the falcons.
I know that’s your worse nightmare haters. You would prefer that he gets a life sentence or the death penalty..lol
Stop looking for a black man to replace your hatred for OJ….it’s not gonna happen!!
By Live Life
May 29, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
For all you racist Vick haters I have a great idea! Move to Mississippi and start a franchise then trade for Peyton Manning. Yeah you must wear shoes to compete in the NFL. Keep your head up Vick see you this season.
By Live Life
May 29, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
For all you racist Vick haters I have a great idea! Move to Mississippi and start a franchise then trade for Peyton Manning. Yeah you must wear shoes to compete in the NFL. Keep your head up Vick see you this season.
By traci
May 29, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
what ever the verdict maybe vick is guilty he has a web site for selling dogs and also how can he say that at the time that he did not know that his family had dogs on the property i mean come on is he that stupid i mean didnt he go to college or what but what ever the reason is he is a hood rat and will always be a hood rat and he is making Atl look worst then it already does so they just need to go ahead and cut him loose
By Roswell Ed
May 29, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
People who defend Vick just don’t get it at all.
It has absolutely nothing to do with convictions. It has to do with perception.
The NFL is a very fickle league. There are a lot of NFL talent that is not in the league for one reason or another.
They do not need players that constantly have trouble swirling around them.
I think that the dumbest thing that people try to throw into this is race. Atlanta has had a lot of black athletes that did things the right way and stayed out of trouble. Why didn’t the press go after Hank Aaron, Jam Anderson, William Andrews, THE HAMMER, D Hall, D Wilkins, K Willis, David Justice, etc etc etc.
I guess they were picking on Todd Marinovich because he’s Croation?
By Tee
May 29, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
Last I checked, Mike Vick hasn’t been questioned by ANYONE in Virginia. What happened to “innocent until proven guilty”? My bad, that’s only if you are WHITE!!
Mike Vick please ignore these Klansmen!!
By Edward R. Murrow
May 29, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
BREAKING NEWS: Poster Live Life is STILL a very angry person with a great deal of rage he appears ready to unleash on anyone who criticized the character or cumulative behavior of beloved Atlanta sports icon Michael Vick.
Citizens are encouraged to avoid Vick ultra-radical Vick apologists such as Live Life by not referencing any topic relating to Michael Vick’s behavior, lest they be blindly called “racist” and/or “hater” by those loyal to Mr. Vick, a person most of them have never even met.
Atlantans are STRONGLY encouraged to flea…pardon me, FLEE any reference to Michael Vick IMMEDIATELY for the safety of themselves and their loved ones.
We will have further updates as they become available or as soon as a Vick loyalist such as Live Life makes yet another ill-conceived, hate-filled, inarticulate comment that falsely accuses racism.
By Tim
May 29, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
Guilty or not, it’s about lack of character.
I don’t care how he runs or plays the game, as long as he continues to let our city down with his personal actions. Atlanta is embarrassed by his actions off the field. He just makes it worse every time he opens his mouth.
Get of the guilt or innocent trip, where there is this much smoke, even a little fire is unacceptable.
By Diogenes
May 29, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
As an apparently accused “racist Vick hater,” please understand that I have judged him NOT by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character (isn’t that what we’re supposed to do?) … and found him woefully lacking.
By Roswell Ed
May 29, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
Q. Which of the following does not belong: AIDS, gonorrhea, herpes, or Mike Vick?
A. Gonorrhea — it can be cured.
By John
May 29, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
If people would read the reports, Vick is having a great “Football” offseason despite the dog fighting allegations. Petrino and his staff are happy with what he has been doing. He has been working hard to learn the playbook and his accuracy has been improving. The problem with Vick is that he had never had a coach push him. Petrino is not the type of coach to lay off anyone. He is going to let you know when you mess up rookie or veteran. I like the fact that he is a no nonsense coach. As far as the dog fighting allegations. Let this thing play out. There hasn’t been any coverage of the rape a Kerney’s house beacuse he was well liked here. Some people in Atlanta don’t want Vick to be the QB because he is black. If there were dog fighting allegations against Peyton Manning and he was the QB here in Atlanta, we would have heard very little about it. It’s always about race in the South. What year is this? You rednecks need to give it a rest. The world is changing. Minorities can live anywhere you live. We just choose not to live around rednecks beacuse we don’t like trailers. If you were a true fan, you would wait until this this plays out and not convict him in the media. If he is involved in dog fighting, he deserves to be suspended. You rednecks already have him hanging from a tree somewhere in South Georgia. Ridiculous. Schaub is gone. Get over it. Go Falcons.
By Black Panther
May 29, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
All you rednecks keep hounding Vick because none of you want a black Qb here in Atlanta. Most of you backwood hillbillies fight dogs in your backyards. Then you go into the house and screw your sister. Of all the things that are going on, you want to crucify Vick on allegations of dog fighting. How about investigating Bush on murder charges for starting a war just to control oil so he can make billions off of it? Or what about Chipper Jones having multiple children by multiple women? You GA slave masters are a mess!! Face the facts that in ten years, there will be less than 5 percent white athletes in football and basketball! Ya’ll are just too slow and dumb to compete!!
By Joe
May 29, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Whether he’s guilty or not he will continue to be the QB of the falcons…now put that in your METH PIPES and inhale really hard…lol
By Black Panther
May 29, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this
Traci, you are a racist!! Jig is short for jigaboo which is a very derogatory term when referring to blacks. You racists can try to fool people, but eventually it comes out, just like when you find out that your meth using husband is really your brother!! Keep having those retarded kids racists!
By Bob
May 29, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
TEE I applaud you…the truth shall set you free.
Earth to Traci, the klan is alive and well buddy….aren’t you late for a meeting?
By Pink Panther
May 29, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
Black Panther, would you like to meet me for a drink in Midtown after work so I can help talk you through some of those problems you sound like you’re having? I give good hugs.
By ThaMan
May 29, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this
Tim Duncan, Shaq, Warrick Dunn,Chris Carter, Charles Barkley,Herschel Walker, to just name a few , are very good people. Michael Vick is a stupid uneducated punk. That’s not racist. That is FACT, you bunch of low mentality Sharptons.
By Janice
May 29, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Black Panther will you marry me? I love a man thats not afraid to speak the TRUTH!!
By Dude
May 29, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
Shultz, Wyche, Moore. Yellow journalists at a rather unsophisticated level of development, absent any discernible degree of professionalism, with nothing of value to offer. An unnamed, heavily disguised informant accuses a high profile athlete of a crime, and these guys embrace it as truth. They go well beyond any obligation to simply report the story. Their columns demonstrate little objectivity. Shultz’s attempt to morally equate dogfighting with other misbehaviors is laughable, as it is so poorly thought through. And now we’re told that facts and evidence do not matter - just perception. None of really believe that, but it gets a pass in this case. Ok, if all you need is hearsay and innuendo to condemn a person, how about this? I heard a report the other day that Shultz himself is heavily involved in dogfighting, that he bets large amounts of monay, that he is part of this scummy underworld. There you go. The AJC should now fire him, right?
By LG
May 29, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
I really don’t care which way this Vick investigations goes. I’m just tired of people claiming he’s innocent until proven guilty. While that is true, people also have a right to their opinion on the subject. Black, white or otherwise, we citizens can voice our opinion for or against Vick. If I think he’s guilty- guess what?! I can can say that because I am not a judge, prosecuter, or his attorney and vise versa. People can talk and beleive what they want about Vick. None of it will be correct because none of us are insiders. I hate the arguements saying there is or isn’t proof. Just argue your point and quit saying someone doesn’t have a right to judge him. As long as we aren’t directly involed in the investigation, we can think what we want about it.
By Falcons Dude
May 29, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
I am not sure why people have to always turn everything into a racial topic, but Black Panther, I believe you have made some of the most hatefilled rascist statements of all. You must be the black version of the KKK. You must truly hate and despise the white race. I really feel sorry for you.
Me, I just love football, and I wish Michael Vick could just keep himself out of the news like most of the other players in the NFL do. INCLUDING like most of the other black players do, Black Panther.
And don’t for one minute think people in the south don’t want a black player doing well. Ever hear of Hank Aaron? Herschel Walker? Emmitt Smith? Dominique Wilkins? William Andrews? Just to name a few?
Idiot.
By April
May 29, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
If the falcons had a better season last year you people who are on the I hate Vick band wagon would be all over his nuts simple as that…. Also for the so called informant everyone knows that informants are convicts that were busted and sent in to be a snitch to get less time or no time for their crime… Also where would Vick get 30,000 to bet on a fight he wasnt even drafted…. I bet if your all american white boy Brady was being investigated for the same thing you people wouldnt have CRAP to say (and I am a white person writing this)!
By A-man
May 29, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
There are two kinds of pro athletes. Warrick Dunn is an example of one kind. Grew up in a one parent household in a bad section of New Orleans. His policewoman mother was killed. He ended up raising his brothers and sisters. Never gets into trouble. Never hear his name in a bad way. Does good things (charities, etc.) for society.
Then there are the Mike Vicks and Pacman Joneses of the world. Some are bad dudes. Some hang around with bad dudes. All of them have no common sense and think they can do whatever they want with no price to pay.
I don’t know Mike’s involvement with dog fighting. But if you look at his history of stuff, where there’s smoke there’s fire. Another Warrick Dunn is he is not.
This isn’t about race, or the AJC, or some vendetta against Mike. It’s about him, and it doesn’t say much about him that is good. He’s created all these messes, and now he’ll have to deal with them, which he should.
By dash
May 29, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Jeff: You are the worst type of sportswiter. You never seem to support any of our sports teams. It is always on the negative. Atlanta does not have the type of support of our sports team as they do in other cities and it is largely due to the media outlets in Atlanta. If Vick is arrested and charged, he needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Dog fighting is a felony and should be. It is inhumane.He is not above the law. But Vick has not been arrested nor charged. His cousin has not even been arrested or charged and he was in the house. Thus far, it is all hearsay. Until he is arrested or charged, it is not relevant to football or the Falcons. Please arrest him or charge him, if not, let this story die. It does not help our team. All of us would hope to be innocent until proven guilty. Let the justice system work. Not one of us could deny that. Jeff, you are a sportwriter. Do us a favor. Do your job and write about sports.
By GaVaHokie
May 29, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
When Dany Heatley wins his Stanley Cup with Ottawa and Michael Vick wins his Super Bowl ring with the Washington Redskins, they’re going to sit down to lunch together and laugh about all the nonsense they put up with in Atlanta.
Getting the hell out of Atlanta was the best move Heatley ever made, and it will be the same for Vick… can’t wait!
By Dude
May 29, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
LG, You as an individual have every right to your own opinion. You can be as uninformed and illogical as you wish. The problem occurs when persons who know no more than you, but who pass themselves off as professionals and who are in a position to shape public opinion, are given license to express what is essentially their narrowminded views, but because they are “journalists” their columns have a character of legitimacy.
By traci
May 29, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
to BOB and the BLACK PANTHER and to teei am a white female and i have to mixed kids (white and BLACK) and the reason behind my statements are i am sooooo tired of the black race including you and tee and bob for alway throwing your race cards i have been raised here outside of atlanta and that is all i have heard my whole life is about how bad we white people treat you black people well you know what look in the mirror you treat you own people like s* by you own self you dont need our helf and if you want to go there about us sleepingwith our sisters or brother atleast we arent killing each other on the streets watch the news every night my son is 14 and i send him to private school of only whites so he will not turn out like you the BLACK PANTHER a TRUE RACIST. we can keep throwing shot back and forth to each other but in the end because vick is black and an athlete he will get off or more or less jess jackson will defend him so get over it
By FalconsforLife
May 29, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
I’m sick and tired of this one. Let’s move on to something that really matters in the football world like off-season works, injury rehabilitations, Grady Jackson sightings, etc. We could even discuss the death of the New England Patriots’ player that occured over the holiday weekend. Anything but the MV issue….
By MBelle
May 29, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
Jonathan:
In your comments retaliating against “SMAD” and “Dr. Doom” you probably should have done a little more research before you prepared your retaliation. Vick never was a “SENIOR” in college. He was drated out of his Sophomore year! You can copy and paste all you want from other websites, but you will only be credible when you can actually defend yourself with some truths.
By marbo
May 29, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Ummm, Tha Man, How on God’s green earth could you possibly know that the list of names you just mentioned are “good” people. Have you ever met all those people…..seen what they do behind close doors? What about Mike Vick? Have you ever met the man? huh? I didnt think so. By the way i could give a rat arse about Mike Vick or anybody else…if you are guilty of a crime your suffer the consequences. However, to judge a man so harsh before all the facts come out is just plain ignorant!!
By Roswell Ed
May 29, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
Traci- I hope its the private school teaching them English and not you!!
By ThaMan
May 29, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
Black Panther is all mouth and zero brain. That little percentage about less than 5% whites on the football field is fine with me. It will be you darkies running around for our entertainment. So be sure to run out and have about 12 kids out of wedlock and leave them on the government dole so they can start smoking crack and killing and robbing EACH OTHER by the time they are around 10 years old. You really out to be proud!!!!!!!!
By The Truth Comes Out
May 29, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
SICK OF VICK! You dummies are going to see and I cant wait. Open your eyes and believe what you are seeing he sucks as an NFL Quarterback AND as a human being. Can him now so the healing of this team can begin! He is trash and the worst kind of trash. He is trash with money. You know it I know it the NFL knows it The Falcons front office and coaches know it the Media knows it the law enforcement in Surry county knows it and the Congress knows it. It is high time for everyone to just ADMIT IT and quit sheltering this PUNK THUG!
By traci
May 29, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
yes it is sorry i was typing fast you jacka**
By silver
May 29, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
If Vick does time, I know another real good quarterback who is available on short notice - None other than Reggie Ball.
By ThaMan
May 29, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Hey marbo. I’m not even considering the dog fighting allegations. I’m just talking about the other crap. And here on God’s green earth, I can judge what I think of someone solely on what I have seen and know about them through the media. Go read A-man. U da ignant one!
By traci
May 29, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
Yes, ED from snutty Roswell I do speck perfect english. I just type fast dumb butt. Do you not have anything better to do today in Roswell, then to correct my English paper.
By Roswell Ed
May 29, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this
Snutty?
By reebok
May 29, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick is already on the downside of his career. He’s accumulated injuries that have already sapped some of his speed, and speed was all he ever had. He should have been run out of town when he flipped off the fans at home. Vick is a disaster. The sooner he’s gone and we get a real QB, the better.
By L. M. Hull
May 29, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
Bigot: A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinons and prejudices. You will note, students, that the above definition is color-blind.
By marbo
May 29, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
I dont give a damn about A-Man, everyone knows the story of Warrick Dunn. I dont have to read it again, but the fact still remains that A-Man nor you know anything about these people’s personal life so you can only speak about what is printed…and printed material can be biased. But you are right about one thing…if you are the type of a***** to judge people that you dont know on a personal level…then by all means continue. We know you are perfect!!
By Roswell Ed
May 29, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Did you call me a dumb butt?
By D Dub of the ATL
May 29, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this
sometimes I wonder why I am even dignifying Schulz’s sorry excuse for a blog with this much of a response.
By L. M. Hull
May 29, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
Sorry. In my haste to “go to press”, I left out an “i” in opinions. However, it is certainly not the first mistake in this forum.
By dee
May 29, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
I JUST FIND IT SO HARD TO LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE HAS TO SAY ABOUT A YOUNG MAN OF COLOR THAT HAS NOT ROBBED THEM, F** THEIR MOTHER,KILLED THEIR SON,CURSED THEIR FATHER AND STOLED THEIR SISTER MONEY. AND WE ASKED OURSELVES DO RACIST STILL EXIST, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A REALLY POLL SEE WHERE RACE SIT ON THIS MATTER AND I’M A 100% SURE WOULD BE ON THE LINE OF RACE AND NOT MORALS AND VALUES. PLEASE LET’S BOTH SIDE WORK ON THIS RACE ISSUE BECAUSE GOD WANT US TO LOVE EVERYONE!!!!!!!!! BUT SINCE THAT’S OUT THE WAY YOU WHITE HATER WILL NOT THE BEST QB OUT LIKE THIS.
By GaVaHokie
May 29, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
reebok… um, is that why he broke the NFL rushing record last year? He didn’t look slow to me.
Vick is the only reason this team can even compete… get rid of him and you’re back to the dark ages.
By Great Falconi
May 29, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
Seems to me that the AJC and the national media polished Vick’s knob for years and glossed over almost everything until last season. I guess the “Dirty Birds” to the fans woke some people up. Anyone crying “Racist!” in this situation is, as some have mentioned, failing to realize the vast majority of black athletes in this town and across the country who don’t have these kind of issues surrounding them. I have no problem with someone defending Vick as a man (everyone has that right), but he’s not an all-time great football player. In the end, his off-the-field problems will make it easier for the Falcons to admit that he’s an average QB and move on. If you don’t want to support the Falcons after that, fine. All I know is that I’ve been a Falcon fan long before Vick and I’ll be one long after he’s gone.
By ThaMan
May 29, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
Thank you marbro!
By Falcon Dude
May 29, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
Traci, ignore Roswell Ed. Regardless of your typing, you have shown the intelligence and good sense to send your children to private school where they have the chance to get a decent education…unlike most of us who have to take our chances with the public education tarpits. And Roswell Ed has shown by his lack of breeding and class that he clearly is a product of the public school system, my guess is one of the ilk of that trade school from North Avenue where I would expect nothing less than the type of virulent diatribe he espouses.
Traci, just ignore him. He knows not of what he speaks.
By the genius
May 29, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
I told you people three months ago that Vick is history. However, I also told you that it is not entirely his fault. It is our system that has allowed athletes to make this incredible amount of money for playing a sport, propping them up under tremendous pressure to live a normal life. The worst thing is to turn this stuff into a race issue, that is so sad indeed. Don’t judge Vick; pray for him in these troubled days ahead. This could happen to anyone. Football is not so important in the overall scheme of things and of life.
By Tony H
May 29, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
Yeah Jeff it has cross his mind everytime you put a stupid story in your blog. You are a joke and should be put in jail for stupidity trying to kill Vick’s Pro Football life based on lie after lie and the AJC that goes for you to no balance at all. I bet you did not think to talk to Lee Suggs who played with Vick at Va Tech in 2000 he has gone on record to state that Vick did’t have any money that year he was always begging for money to take his female friends out so how did he get 30k to 40k to bet on dogs you jerk in college all you had to do was be respondsible but know you rather go with the lies GOD bless Vick and the real fans in the ATL lord knows we need it with jerks like Jeff.S and his rebel flag pickup truck driving punks.
By JOE
May 29, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE STOP DEFENDING YOURSELVES EVERYTIME SOMETHING COMES UP! NONE OF US WERE AROUND WHEN SLAVERY TOOK PLACE AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NFL OR ME. WHAT NEXT PACMAN JONES IS AS CHOIR BOY?
By Teresa
May 29, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
If Mike is kicked out of the league tomorrow, he still has more money than you hillbilies will EVER see in 3 life times!! That’s what makes you toss and turn at night…LMAO!!
By What's New?
May 29, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Where there is smoke there is fire. I smell something burning. Oh No! It’s Vick’s career. QUICK! Someone grab a race card!
By bobbybaby
May 29, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
To “By That Man.”,
I can always tell a racist because he always make refereremce to Sharpton and Jackson. And, that is why I love them so much……because most white people hate them so much and that can’t be all bad. You know that anyone who is universally hated by bigot has got to be doing something good. Keep the faith Sharptons…scare them bigots to death.
By GaVaHokie
May 29, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
Hey Jeff… did we ever confirm that Matt Stafford is gay? What happened to that story? I was enjoying that.
By Tony H
May 29, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
{Joe and What’s New} Vick will be our starting QB in September leading our Falcons and you guys will still be waving your rebel flags and driving you pick up truck. So keep the lies coming.