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By la

May 28, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Please let this story die. What about people who hunt and kill animals for the sport of it.

By Joe

May 28, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

This story has used all the legs it has and then some I dont support dog battles to the death but until there is proof of dog fights what we hear is just noise good stuff for the Vick haters but noise to everyone else.

By Ken

May 28, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Everyone has seen an episode of CSI or murder she wrote at one point, so we can all piece together what we think is going on… but with everything said their is no evidence of Mike so far presented that he is guilty. This guy on tv yesterday says he seen Mike in 2000 at a fight but did not disclose where at what time?, next he said he has never been to the property in Virginia, and finally this mysterious figure says, they have mike but they don’t have mike, so until there is an actual photo or ledger sheet with his name, he can easily discredit this guy. Oh and finally this guy says he thinks mike would snitch? well he seems to be talking a whole lot with his face covered. Now dog fighting is not something I approve of, but until then Let me know when you have some real eveidence to present.

By Creed

May 28, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

I am a dog Lover and I will NEVER let this story die until these dregs of society are brought to justice. Poindexter sounds more like a defense attorney than a prosecutor. I want a Federal investigation against these animal abusers. NOW

By steve

May 28, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

I think people that fight dogs are trash, white or black. But this latest incident highlights the character flaws Vick has. He has gone by an alias go get an STD test, had a bottle with a hidden compartment in it for “jewelry” umm hmm and now this… when are the fans going to wake up and realize this guy is nothing but a hyped up thug gangster who will never win a superbowl. As long as he puts people in the seats, he will remain a falcon and that is the saddest part of it all.

By Phil C

May 28, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

I am a animal lover and do not condone any sadist that would derive pleasure from watching dogs or any animal tear each other apart! I like the previous poster also think those that buy high powered weapons with telescopic sights, hide themselves in trees and derive pleasure form killing animals are cowards and equally problemed but society allows one giving them permits to practice their hobby so I guess its considered alright ! In the case of Vick so far at least, nothing I have heard could be considered evidence in a court ! so I believe the press and those that love to watch train wrecks should leave him alone until he is charged and some conclusive evidence is found besides the word of some one who admits being a part of this savage “sport” and now goes around informing on others to save his own cowardly hide ! If Vick is innocent, and this is only if, he is being done irreparable damage by the hungry media for their own IMO just as vicious reasons.

By David Lee

May 28, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

All this is all heresay nonsense. Show me the evidence. Allegations with no evidence.

By Jon

May 28, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Let the story die? there really are some stupid people here. Vick is a punk and a dope, some of you are sure to like vick because of the latter. I own two german shepherds, and let me tell you if vick came within twenty feet of them I would either beat him within a inch of his life or place bets on how quickly they could do the same.

Cruel huh? well think about the dogs who were gamed by illiterate dopes who got their jolleys off on watching dogs kill each other

Poor petrino, he has himself dope and a punk at QB.

By DLAW

May 28, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Though Clinton Portis may have been wrong in his comments, he did have a point. Dogs fighting to their death is both illegal and plain wrong. What’s funny is that it is O.K. to watch fisherman catch fish and hunters shoot innocent animals “for sport” on television. Come on America, let’s get real. Are we saying it is O.K. to kill animals as long as they don’t see it coming? -REAL TALK, NOT JUST NEWS

By real falcon fan

May 28, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

ajc we know you guys hate michael vick you’ve been the main ones dragging this story on! with your unreliable sources. we blacks like vick and don’t want him out of town so shut the f*** up about this story already every damn day!

By chi chi

May 28, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Every week its something new last week they said that the dogs werent in bad shape now espn gets this informant come on now you see whats happening some people want to see vick go down and espn is one of them

By Leandre

May 28, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

When was Mike indicted… send me the link. Is this the same informat that the Atlanta Police Department used?

The NFL is worried about the “white folks” not coming to games. When Mike run for a 50 yard touchdown - they wouldn’t care if he was the referee at the dog fight.

By John

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

3 out of 4 posts on here are defending this guy readily. I don’t understand it. Vick could kill babies and people will still defend this worthless idiot. Unfortunately I had to deal with Vick as one of my customers and this guy is a loser. He’s rude and thinks his sh*t doesn’t stink. I personally hate this guy and was waiting for a day like this when his ship would sink.

By stuck at home

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

At this point, we the public, do not know what the evidence is. That has not been leaked, to my knowledge. There seems to be enough to cast doubt on Mike’s character and even his word that he did not know what was going on. Here is my problem. Did you see Mike’s quick interview on the run with Buck Lanford? Did you hear Mike’s words? “No matter what Mike Vick does people will support me.” That bothered me. I like Mike. I have refused to cast condemnation on him, and I still do until all evidence is in, but that statement is arrogant and smacked of guilt of some kind. I’m ready for this crap to be over and for Falcon’s Fans to be able to focus on the upcoming season in terms of football and not off the field crap.

By Big G

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Annoymous Source — can’t get a real source ESPN? It’s probably the head coach for the Panthers, Bucs or Saints.

By RA

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Hmmm, it’s all so funny. Last I heard the district attorney’s office had issued a statement that the dogs found on Vick’s property were in very good shape and didn’t look like they had been abused. Wait a minute, that’s not the last I heard. The last I heard was ESPN’s report about this informant who had seen Vick at a dog fight, in 2000, and said that he was one of the major big-wigs in the industry. I’m not a Vick apologist. I think he needs a haircut and an attitude change, BUT I will say that I haven’t seen one sthred of viable evidence linking him to dogfighting, and until I do, I’m not going to accuse him. However, without hard evidence ESPN has convicted Michael Vick in the court of public opinion. And the AJC has done no less. I’ll tell you the truth, if I wrote for the AJC or did that story on ESPN, I’d really hope that Vick doesn’t get exonerated because if he does, there could be libel and slander suits all around…

By gizmox329

May 28, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

I wish someone would produce the evidence against Vick or either let this thing die. Charge him or drop it. How long does it take to gather evidence? Offer practically anyone enough money and they will lie for you on TV. Please, enough is enough!

By leandre

May 28, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

animal lovers - what do you think about the folks sneaking around in the woods killing “bambi” and “peter rabbit”? Just curious…

By RA

May 28, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Okay,

realfalconfan, not all blacks like Michael Vick. I respect him as a player, but I’m also a school teacher and I’ll say that a lot of the decisions that he’s made off the field have set a bad example for young people. Is Michael Vick a role model? Probably not. Is Michael Vick a criminal? Prove it. I’m not fan of Michael Vick the person, but I am a big time fan of justice. I just want to see it done.

By Scott

May 28, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Black people, get your asses in order. Dog fighting is not cool it is a disgusting abuse of an animal. Anyone who participates in this crap should be locked up in jail. Stop making every other black person in the world look bad because a few unevolved pieces of trash like to have dog fights. Vick you are no longer from the ghetto or the back woods. You represent a billion dollar company, start acting like it. Not like a complete thug trying to keep it real. You are doing nothing but hurting other black people with your behavior. This is why stereotypes are still around because a black guy gets famous and then disgusting things like this gets released. GO AWAY VICK, you are offensive to every black person with an IQ over 70.

By boots

May 28, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Vick should be disciplined, if for no other reason than for his stupidity —-in subjecting his owner, coaches and team-members to this distraction.

The list of ocasions where Vick has embarrassed his team by exercising poor judgment is legend and proves beyond any doubt that he is dense, retarded or just plain stupid and is oblivious to his responsibilities as leader of this team.

Sit him out until he learns that it is a privilege to lead a franchise

By thomasdavis

May 28, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Vick is innocent. Drop this ridiculous allegation on his character.

By LJ

May 28, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Vick has been nothing but trouble since coming to Atlanta. BOYCOTT THE FALCONS until they get rid of the thug.

By Matthew at the SLC

May 28, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Vick’s days as a Falcon are numbered. It is only a matter of time before he is shipped off and the franchise moves away from this disaster.

The mobile, black QB is starting to fade. Teams are moving back to the traditional drop-back passer. The Falcons will do the same after they get to the point where they can dump Vick’s salary.

He is the biggest piece of SCUM to ever suit up for any Atlanta team. I cannot believe the Falcons can even trot is sorry butt out on opening day as the starter.

By Matthew at the SLC

May 28, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Vick’s days as a Falcon are numbered. It is only a matter of time before he is shipped off and the franchise moves away from this disaster.

The mobile, black QB is starting to fade. Teams are moving back to the traditional drop-back passer. The Falcons will do the same after they get to the point where they can dump Vick’s salary.

He is the biggest piece of SCUM to ever suit up for any Atlanta team. I cannot believe the Falcons can even trot is sorry butt out on opening day as the starter.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

AJC,

I gotta give it to you and the world wide leader in pure crap ESPN, personally trying to bring a man down for all of your own personal gain.

I in no way shape or form condone dogfighting AT ALL. The problem is that there has been no PROOF other than hearsay from 2nd and 3rd hand sources and guys who like to have dots on their face on national TV. It’s one thing if you had legit information that would indict the man, then fine. However, when it’s clear that you, ESPN or anybody else for that matter has information to bring charges to Vick, stop beating the man down until there is such information….

It makes the media (including you all at the AJC) look like some vultures who are willing to print tabloid type rumors as gospel even if they have no proof and/or basis to slander a man’s name……

By FALCON30901

May 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

This is just another of the bad reporting by AJC. A couple weeks ago the paper reported that the dogs on the property were malnutrition and scared up. Then it was reported that the dogs were in such bad shape that they had to be euthanized. All the while the dogs were found in great shape for selling. The only dog that needed any veterinarian care was one dog with a birth defect… as quoted by the Prosecutor with real evidence. Shouldnt the AJC have talked to the prosecutor that was actually on the site. Where did this sorry excuse for a paper get its evidence. Some of the same reporters that claim that Vicks dynamic play on Sunday was the reason that they lost games. If this paper ever had a real Beat Writer, someone that was actually at the game with knowledge of the sport, Vick would be looked at in the south the same as he is viewed in the rest of the country. He is a star. Where is this sorry reporting coming from. just a bunch of guys trying to up their portfolio in order to get a gig on a ESPN or Foxsports show. Guess what those stations would be liable for millions if some of the crap being reported on this paper were ever said on TV with millions of educated people watching. Now this southern paper with the reputation for downing its black local stars is quoting a station that is quoting a crack head. Anyone that actually watched 16 games of Atlanta Falcons football would agree that Vick was the best player on the field whenever he played. Its not his fault that his now fired former Offensive Coordinator would only call 15 pass plays a game. Whose play call would start ever series with a rush right then rush middle then tell Vick to make something happen on 3rd down. It wasnt until Vick reached out to HBO and told them that “if he got the opportunity to throw the football he would have produced”. The next two weeks Vick and his favorite target (Alge) were nfc players of the week. NO one should ever question MV’s skills. He hasnt lost more than 2 games in his career. He has put this team on his back and wasnt able to win a couple, but he wasnt the reason that we lost. He is one of the 4 guys on the Falcons team that frustrates the other team. He is the best player on the field. He is the guy that brings it every week. He throws his body around and exhaust himself all year and on game day. Yes he threw up his middle finger to a couple unruly so called fans. Did anyone see how he played in that game. Did anyone noticed how much he gave to this team during this game. Constantly keeping us close on offense trying to over come bad play call and a couple key big plays by the defense. Payton would have done the same. You dont give your all to something without having feelings. Vick just let his feelings come out of that finger. So when people read articles from this sports section please realize that your receiving some of the worse bias reporting ever allowed to be printed on any paper.

By letsgetreal

May 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Vick is a thug, always was always will be. Lets quit making up excuses for him, and quit playing the reverse race card. Im sure the people who keep defending him are the same idiots who think OJ is innocent.

By greedy

May 28, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Where is the proof. Where is the proof. where is the proof. you smucks have no real proof.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

p.s. - A lot of you all really need to (a) come off of your more holy than thou grandstands and (b) stop hiding behind the word “thug” and say what you really want to say…..and I think you all know what that is….

By AngryRepublican

May 28, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Jeff, You and the rest of the AJC (All Jokes Considered) fishwrap as in your reporting is nothing but a joke. It is more like tabloid journalism at best. If I wanted a tabloid fishwrap, I would by it from the rack at the checkout line in Walmart. Is Terence Moore over the whole Sports Dept now? Don’t get me wrong, I am an animal lover. I have two dogs of my own. So if this story is true, he needs to be prosecuted. BUT, that’s the problem. There has not been one shred of true and factual evidence linking Vick to any of the allegations. Every time this story gets updated, it is front page news at first. But after further investigation, it keeps getting debunked but the truth gets buried on the back pages of the paper. This fishwrap is just like any other supermarket tabloid, it will be first to jump out with a half-@ssed story with no facts just to claim it was the 1st to report it. But when the truth comes out, it is relegated to back page status without so much as a “sorry” or a “we were wrong.” I guess it is easier to sling sh!t to see if it will stick than to clean it up afterwards. If you can’t tell already from most of the posts on here, people are fed up with this story. So far it has been, lies, inuendo, rumors, half-truths, etc. I am just like most of the posters would rather hear about the Falcons. This last mini-camp, all the reporting was on the ALLEGED charges and the rest of the reporting was two sentences about Grady “Gravy” Jackson not working out. Everything reported was 98% about off-field issues that had nothing to do with camp. Whatever happened to a breakdown by position of how the rest of the TEAM performed in camp. It’s the same with the biased reporting with High School football last year focused exclusively on teams from the Metro area. The funny thing was a lot of public outcry from other parts of the state finally got the GJC (GWINNETT JOURNAL CONSTITION) to report on other areas. After all that focus on the Gwinnett teams, it was teams from the Mid & South part of the state that took 4 out of 5 titles. But again all the focus wasn’t on the winning squads but what the Gwinnett teams did wrong this year. I guess that would have been to much like REAL REPORTING, REAL JOURNALISM (and common sense/decency). If AJC can’t get it together, and I mean quickly, I will let my going on 18 year subscription go just like so many other people have. I guess AJC needs to change the tagline “Covers Dixie Like Dew” into “Covers Dixie in DOO-DOO.”

By SteveO

May 28, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Here is a clue for some of you who think there is no “evidence,” and only witness accounts — witness testimony and statements ARE “evidence.” Most people are convicted of crimes through the use of… you guessed it…. witness testimony. Further, the police likely will not release what they have until charges are brought, or they close the case without charges. Until then, it will be a story. Moreover, the NFL may step in after that if they believe they have enough, with or without criminal charges. Obviously, the mental giants who post any variation of the term “Vick hater,” “stop hatin’” and the like are discounted to zero weight in any discussion, as is the bigoted trash posting that the NFL is worried about “white folks.”

By Jon

May 28, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

Thank you AJC for continue to bring this story to the people. It’s great to know that the AJC will not be bullied by those ignorant people who continue to support Vick during this time.

By My View

May 28, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

I have never attended a dogfight, and don’t care to. But will someone tell me why a dog fight is a “crime” and hunting is a “sport”. I personally find that theory hypocritical.

By curt

May 28, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

I live in Columbia, South Carolina home of the “Gamecocks”(chicken fighting) and on espn radio there is a sports show that comes on at 4pm. The guy on the show is a Vick basher to the one hundreth degree. He talks about how much of a scumbag Vick is for being involved in dogfighting and how he should not only be suspended but put out of the league. I believe that a man is innocent until proven guilty. Even if Vick is charged he should not be disciplined by the league until if and when he is convicted. The NFLPA let Goodell set a dangerous presedent with pac man jones(who has never been charged with a crime). We saw what happened in the Duke Lacross case and still I find it quite amazing how people are ready to once agian jump to conclusions without letting the Justice system work things out. I’m not defending Pac man Jones or Vick I’m just saying let the legal system work before we demonize a player or kick them out of the league.

By Edd

May 28, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Where is the proof ? Remember, you CAN NOT beleive the media, this is how they make money. If Vick did it then punish him and everyone involved, until then let’s find some real stuff to talk about..

By no answer

May 28, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

Two young black males were gunned down in Atlanta back in 1999 and Ray Lewis was directly or indirectly involved.The next year he had a pro bowl year and lead his team to a superbowl,and now he is considered a hero.I guess two young black men that died at a club because of Ray Lewis is less than important than some dogs!You call Vick a thug or a gangsta but where is his criminal record?Some of you fans are a bunch thugs who need to be under control you fans were the one who harassed Vick at the games,yall harassed Chris Chandler’s wife when he got hurt,the fans in Philly are so bad that they have a jail at the stadium!,what about the fans that threw beer at Ron Artest?I have been to plenty of games nfl,nba,and mlb with my kids and hear drunk fans cursing and arguing.So don’t hold pro atheletes to a standard that you fans don’t have yourselves.Now back to dogfighting,I don’t condone it but unless you people are vegans than you are all a part of some sort of animal cruelity!

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

scott u sound quite stupid, when did fighting dogs become and GHETTO and a THUG activity, travel to south GEORGIA, and get a reality check, Whatever Vick does HE reflects himself not every black person!!! Does Cho Seung-hui represent all ASIAN people, does Timothy McVeigh represent all WHITE peeople, lol idiot.

By Jon

May 28, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

Oh shut up Sanchez, people say THUG, they mean THUG. Just like when Todd Bertuzzi (hockey player, google it) hit Moore with a sucker punch, they called him a THUG. Quit trying to bring the conversation down to your loser level and make it racial, you are wrong.

By #7

May 28, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

I am a dog lover too. This is the USA . This is not the 1950’s in Atlanta or the USA. We the people who love the Falcons demand this be done right;not by a lynch mob press. Jeff has told us in his own words “Vick must go”. To the NFL commissioner we have the laws of the land not gossip of the good ole boy media. ESPN, AJC sport are out to destroy Vick and our team make no bone about it. Jeff you will pay a heave price to get your wish. You and your paper won’t let this story die. The fed have paid a guy to say Vick is a dog fighter and 30 other player he never said any other player name only Vick. Truth will stand .Jeff they don’t need your help lies gossip. You are are a low class paper BOY and you can’t do that right because you have A Agenda to destroy it is not right. Jeff your heart is not right . you would not know right if you fell on it! Vick Pray to God to stand with you.He will forgive man will not. your enemy will be your foot stool. God is in control and we are praying for you!!! Jeff I pray for you too!

By Jon

May 28, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Ok, MY VIEW, this is how it breaks down. People “hunt and fish” to help thin the population (fish, deer, etc) whereas others train dogs to kill. Even though I have never hunted and never will, you can’t compare the two.

By Jack

May 28, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Good column Jeff - This isn’t the AJC’s fault. If Vick is so innocent why not call a new conference and tell his side. If he really cares and has nothing to hide……. The “no comments ” and “lawyers won’t allow anything else to be said” is ringing pretty hollow right now.

FACT - half the fan base has left Vick and the other half doesn’t rent corporate suites and buy high priced season tickets. Who do you think Arther is more concerned about ????

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

No wonder people think Southerners are stupid. For anyone on here that is defending Vick and blaming this blog on inaccurate reporting by AJC, take note it’s being reported everywhere. As a former VT grad who had classes with Vick, I have defended him against everything in the past, but this I can’t. Who cares if this guy is a great athlete, he is a dispicable human being. And to poster “la”, last time I checked, animals that are hunted are overpopulated and wild, and they are certainly not bred for the sole purpose of tearing another animal to pieces. Anyone who condones Vick is just as digraceful as he is. Innocent until proven guilty I will agree with, but there seems to be more evidence daily. I hope he is kicked out of the NLF and goes to jail.

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

No wonder people think Southerners are stupid. For anyone on here that is defending Vick and blaming this blog on inaccurate reporting by AJC, take note it’s being reported everywhere. As a former VT grad who had classes with Vick, I have defended him against everything in the past, but this I can’t. Who cares if this guy is a great athlete, he is a dispicable human being. And to poster “la”, last time I checked, animals that are hunted are overpopulated and wild, and they are certainly not bred for the sole purpose of tearing another animal to pieces. Anyone who condones Vick is just as digraceful as he is. Innocent until proven guilty I will agree with, but there seems to be more evidence daily. I hope he is kicked out of the NLF and goes to jail.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

Jon,

Please, you’re killing me up there on your grandstand. People with common sense can see right through your OWN PERSONAL agenda.You’re willing to run the man out of town at any cost, even if there’s no legit evidence in this instance to prove wrong doing……

You know DAMN WELL what you were saying with THUG and it was not in the same context as Bertuzzi….

By la

May 28, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Scott, What about Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Brittany Spears embarrassing the European race with their lack of intelligence and criminal behavior with engaging illegal activities such as drugs and Driving under the influence. They are not positive role models for anyone. Michael vick has never been arrested nor charged with any crimes. People kill animals everyday for the sport so I am not sure why there is a double standard for dog-fighting. I do not agree dog-fighting or hunting but I believe that Michael should is innocent until proven guilty. The AJC is disgraceful for the way they lynch successful black men in the paper without any evidence. I am ashamed to be from Atlanta because people here are so ignorant compared to other people in different states and regions. We still have not heard anything about the Patrick Kerney case where a rape took place at his house. It takes a whole nation to try to hold us back but only the strong survives.

By Titothebear

May 28, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Let this story die? There’s a whole lot more that needs to come to light and it’s not going to just go away. There’s the dogfighting aspect and there’ a gambling component that needs to be looked at. Investigating Mike Vick’s tax returns will, I feel certain, lead to evasion charges. There’s also the drug connection. Was Mike Vick involved in that part of this messy case? I think he was. His restaurant is, in all probability, nothing more than a vehicle to launder drug and dog fighting money. Vick is a criminal and he’s going away to prison. His NFL career is at an end and I’m lovin’ it. It’s all good!

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

Erin,

Got get yourself a tampon and cry me a river….What FIRST HAND, HARD evidence is there in this case????

The more all of these clowns like that informant on OTL and Banks talk through 2nd hand information and voice distorters the more I think/know Vick will walk…..

By My View

May 28, 2007 7:24 PM | Link to this

Dog Kennels are advertising now in an attempt to help w/ overcrowding kennels. I see far more dogs get hit by cars than deer. So are you people sure that you want to use thinning the population as an excuse. Also I’m sure no lake would be forcing fish to land without the help of fisherman. Just call it what it is. People have agendas. Those people who love dogs hate the idea of dogfighting. In America they have a really large constituency, therefore dogfighting is illegal.

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

whats funny is how people forget how atlanta football was before VICK,LOL i remember when i was in school if you had perfect attendance for a week u got free falcons tickets, you couldnt give that crap away,LOL. We had 2 or 3 good years but ABSOLUTELY nuthin like what we are going thru since VICK arrived in reference to morale and team spirit, there is actually a waiting list to get falcons tickets!!!

By P

May 28, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

This vick thing is not about dogfighting it’s about Vick. They want him 2 fall and the media biatches will stop at nothing 2 get him. Like we are 2 believe that Espn really gives a crap about dogfighting. Baseball and the nba must be really boring 2 run this vick story day after day with the source brothers and Mr X accusing Vick of being at dogfights. That espn piece was nothing but tabloid journalism. Why the hell did they have 2 alter MR. X’s voice 2 sound like he was constipated. He also said there were 40 nfl players involved in fighting dogs must when asked only mentioned Vick, and that biatch reporter jumped on vicks name like a fat kid loves cake. B.S they got nothing !! on Vick and KIng Kong aint got nothing on Him either!!!!!

By paul

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

I’ve posted about Michael before, and for years have defended him. So first off, the points of view that he hasn’t been indicted, let alone convicted in this case. But of course , that doesn’t mean one cannot get convicted in the court of public opinion.

I’ve felt Michael was immature for the “bird” thing, and a little bit stupid re:the watter bottle thing (which obviously was covered up, somehow), but this is LIGHT YEARS ahead of this.

Personally, I am hoping he gets cleared, and isn’t involved with this. Who really knows the truth? None of us—not really. But most of us have a gut feeling one way or another. My gut feeling is that he’s involved in this horrible, awful sport. I mean, this is a sport so heinous, it’s like a super-secret society—like an pro-incest group or something. Of course it’s secretive.

And we thought him defending his idiot brother was bad enough….How many people read the ESPN article? I did. They left a lot out of the televised report. Like the informant saying UFC is just as bad. Well, it sort of is, but at least thses guys made that choice. The pit bulls have no choice. And as for hunting—well, I don’t hunt, and I think to just kill an animal for sport or trophies is barbaric. But hunting with the purpose of eating what you kill is morally fine with me. Not my gig, but if you want to do it, fine.

But there is no viable way AT ALL to condone dog fighting. I mean, it is just the lowest.

By famuan

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Didn’t a reliable confidential informant cause a 92 year old woman to get gunned down in her own home? So now we have a man claiming to have fought dogs for 30 years, remembering that he fought one of Vick’s dogs in 2000? Are you serious? No wonder Yolonda Cameron’s letter is gaining traction around the media world. All of you are complete jokes.

By michael sanders

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

the the fools who think vick is guilty remember ray lewis.if you watched his trial nobody saw ray doing anything. one of the victim,s freinds stood next to ray the whole fight and testified to that fact.let,s just wait.and by the way how the whites on here not calling the broncos reciever a thug? i forgot he,s white

By Jon

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Sanchez, you have to realize that not everything is based on race. Sure, people like to point out race as a factor but that’s only because they can’t face the truth. I truly hope one day you can see past race and see the truth. God help you.

By David Duke

May 28, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this

Chi Chi, shouldn’t you be bending a taco somewhere?

By Dr. I.Q.

May 28, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

Falcon 30901:

You went to great lengths to say nothing.

The reality of the situation is that Vick should never have put himself in another embarrassing situation.

I will not use the word “thug” but maybe “ignorant” expresses how his behaviors are perceived by those of us who pay his exorbitant salary for mediocre production on the field and unacceptable behaviors off the field.

Inexcusable!

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this

Dirty,

I believe my comment “Innocent until proven guilty, I agree with” obviously shows that I agree he is not guilty until proven otherwise. I was stating that the actual evidence that is being reported certainly looks substaintial. Maybe before making really mature and well-thought out comments such as that tampon remark, you should read my entire posting.

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

if this guy, who claims to have been a INFORMANT over 10 years, is so crediable he should definitely have some type of video of VICK at these fights, the goverment has every damn thing else on tape,lol

By 911

May 28, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

you guys don’t think them country boys Brett Favre & the Manning brothers don’t go hunting & fishing for sport?I’m sure they are not hunting and fishing for survial because they can afford their own food.They even showed the 1st round pick for the Browns deep sea fishing on draft day.Do you think he was doing that for sport or to feed his family?Some of you rednecks probaly have a moose or a deer’s head on your fireplace mantle!Some of you rednecks hate Blacks,Mexicans,Gays etc.but you love dogs and animals.

By Titothebear

May 28, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

He’ll walk alright, perp walk!

By la

May 28, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this

Erin, I bet you feel that famine, war and disease should be used as instruments to kill off the human race due to over population too. Killing/hunting animals and dog fighting are both cruel so your logic is flawed. This is an excuse to attack this man based on his race. I can tell from the comments on this blog that most people on this blog have not owned properties with the intent on renting the properties to other people. It is very hard to monitor tenants at rental properties so that is why the lease is enforced for any activities at the property to be addressed to the tenant not the owner. Otherwise, a lot of owners would be in jail if they were responsible for the behaviors of their family or tenants.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:38 PM | Link to this

Jon,

I realize not everything is based off of race, but right or wrong, whenever Vick is brought up as a topic of discussion race in some way, shape or form winds up as a factor, which is very unfortunate.

I didn’t mean to seem like such a pill about the whole THUG thing but it is a big deal b/c of the connotation in certain circles. In a lot of circles it’s being used in place of the N-word, so that’s why I responded like that and I apologize for that…..

By Roni

May 28, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

AJC needs to focus on the real criminals—the APD. I don’t care if Vick is dogfighting—I will still look at every game every Sunday as long as he is in Atlanta. Say what you want but nobody was at any Falcons games until Vick came. Do we dare forget that in ATL games were not shown on TV because they couldn’t sell out the dome—how soon they forget.It may be illegal but it isn’t that big of a deal except to dog lovers—which I am not.Get over it—they are freaking dogs—gimme me a break.

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:43 PM | Link to this

I still wanna see feds go after this kid for killing this HOG in alabama!!!

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:44 PM | Link to this

Erin,

Maybe you could explain this to me, exactly HOW does second hand sources, informants who talk through voice distorter’s and hear say make the basis of hard core/condemning evidence….b/c as I see it the hard evidence is missing just as much as the innocent til proven guilty part is to this entire situation……

By Jay

May 28, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this

Right on 911! I wonder if ole Schultztie is a animal lover too…you know…for him to come back on a holiday to post this crap. Not all people like hunting deers, rabbits, possum, turkey…killing period. But, they are ready to throw a man under the bus IF he’s associated with dog FIGHTING! As long as it’s their way…they’re fine.

By Falcon4Life

May 28, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this

All of you who keep aligning dog-fighting with blacks, be prepared to hate this activity just a much when you realize that 99.9% of dog-fighting enthusiasts are WHITE. Where did i get my stats? From an un-named, undisclosed reliable source. Be prepared to drag all of your attorney, doctor, politician “upstanding citizen” fathers, grandfathers and business leaders through the same mud that you wish to drag M. Vick through.

By Falcon4Life

May 28, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

All of you who keep aligning dog-fighting with blacks, be prepared to hate this activity just a much when you realize that 99.9% of dog-fighting enthusiasts are WHITE. Where did i get my stats? From an un-named, undisclosed reliable source. Be prepared to drag all of your attorney, doctor, politician “upstanding citizen” fathers, grandfathers and business leaders through the same mud that you wish to drag M. Vick through.

By DHD

May 28, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

Sucking the brains out of a baby while still in the “protection” of it’s mother is legal, but don’t mess with dogs.

While I’m not for animals fighting, it just shows how screwed up we have become.

That said….please make a deal for Trent Green because we are going to need a QB.

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this

La,

First of all, i was not defending or condoning hunting, I was merely pointing out the difference between that and dog fighting. So, no my logic isn’t flawed. I abhor hunting and do not believe in it at all. To your second point, anyone who owns a property should be responsible enough to maintain it, and that means knowing what is going on in your own house, whether you live in it or not. I have two rental properties, one on different coast and I can assure you I know what is going on in each of them. Its one thing to not know your tenants are dirty and don’t know how to clean, it is quite another to not know your home is being used illegally to run a large illegal operation.

Also, your remark about using this as excuse to attack him based on race is incredulous and ridiculous. If evidence against Tom Brady or Peyton Manning came regarding dog fighting, people would be reacting the exact same way. Anyone who believes differently has an ax to grind with something completely unrelated to dog-fighting.

By P

May 28, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

Danny Heatley got drunk killed a team mate but he walked, Jason Willams Got drunk shot and killed his limo driver and he walked, Ray lewis and his boys fought and killed 2 people superbowl week and he walked, Kobe bryant alleged stole some white womans booty and he walked, leonard little got drunk and killed a woman in st louis and he walked ,oj was accused of killing 2 people and he walked, patrick kerney;s boys rape a chick in his house and nobody was charged and you people want 2 run your most winning QB out of town for allegedly being linked 2 fighting pitbulls…DAMN …DAMN!! NO WONDER YOUR SORRY A* TEAMS NEVER WIN!!!

By chipdip

May 28, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

hang him from a tree.

By UnHappyFan

May 28, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

Talking about image one wonders..

Suppose M.Vick was a VP of sort at a major company, like (lets say) Home Depot. I believe that an executive indicated with such activity would be on leave, or even suspended pending the investigation.

The company would want to create distance from the issue and it’s image and public perception.

Blank has screwed up big time (again) imho. He actually may have managed to pull Vick in closer to both him and the team.

Even if M. Vick cannot be charged the damage to the Falcons/NFL has been done. Who will sponsor him/them after this? Home Depot???

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

Dirty,

I wasn’t referring to the informant, more to the 60+ pitbulls and dog-fighting paraphanalia found at the house. Also testimony from animal control and Humane society personnel that he has been a suspect for a long time. As I mentioned in my last post to “La”, you do not own a property and rent it out and not know what is going on. It’s one thing to have a crappy tentant who is a slob and doesn’t pay his rent on time, it is quite another to have someone running an illegal gambling ring out of it. Ignorance is not an excuse to break the law, since so far that has been the only excuse Vick has made. He didn’t know what was going on in the house, even though the tenant was a relative… BULLS*IT!!!

By kevina

May 28, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this

Anyone who doesn’t think dog fighting is sick is a sick bastard.

By delavago scruggs

May 28, 2007 7:57 PM | Link to this

For all of these folks here that is saying wait for the evidence, excuse me. The evidence is mounting and the hammer is about to fall. He hasn’t been charged, indicted or anything yet; however, I give them 2 weeks.
But if you own the house where fights go on, yo’ve been seen at various dog fights, you have people who have sold you the very dogs tha are used in the fight, all that is left is someone to finger him. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a damn duck, guess what, its a duck!

By David Duke

May 28, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this

The only tthing more surprising than Vick’s stupidity is the vapid nature of those who support him. I’ve never encountered greater ignorance than I’ve seen from the uneducated supporters of this soon to be felon. That, however, is to be expected from the dark side.

By Paul

May 28, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

Mike Vicks “fans” will insist he is innocent even if there is a tape showing him refereeing a dog fight. They dont care if he committed a felony just like they didnt care that OJ “the slasher” Simpson committed murder. Dont try to talk logically to these people. They cannot comprehend. I hope Mr. Blank who wants the Falcons to be thought of as an organization the city is proud of and that has good quality people (like Dunn) knows that Vick will continue to pull stunts like this. Maybe when the corporate suite guys start cancelling season tickets Mr. Blank will get the message. Vick is a mini Mike Tyson just waiting to happen. Do the fans who buy tickets for the Falcons games a favor Mr. Blank and get rid of this plague or we will just quit coming to see your “family atmosphere” at the Georgia Dome.

By UnHappyFan

May 28, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

I should add that sponsor is where the Falcons and NFL’s pain points are. I’m not suggesting the time is right, nor any action yet needed. But all it would take is a very large and vocal group of people to convince company X and company Y not to spend any money.

We’d see big changes and very fast.

By Ed Amiss Jr

May 28, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this

Mike WILL play this season and have his best year. Get rid of political correctness. No charges. People (ESPN) that want to see Mick fall might as well get out of line. Ain’t gonna happen.

By Embarrassed by MV

May 28, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is an embarrassment to Atlanta, the NFL, and the Atlanta Falcons. He should be banned from the NFL.

By P.J.

May 28, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

Wow, I sure hope these Vick apologists are licensed to practice law in Georgia because if they can defend me (in case the feds ever bust me for my profligate poker playing - I won ten dollars from my buddies the other night) with all the fervor of defending Vick, I want them on my side. And with the eloquence and righteousness with which they’re urging due process, they remind me of real-life Atticus Finches—all of ‘em.

That said, with everything else he’s done and the way with which he carries himself, Michael Vick is still a turd of a human being. He’d only be worse if he deliberately applied faulty intelligence and lies in a harebrained scheme to gain hegemonic control of Middle East oil fields for all his buddies…and make all his opponents appear too feeble to protect this country, hence frightening everyone to back him.

Happy Memorial Day!

By Atlanta Hawks #1 Fan

May 28, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this

AJC sucks. Reporting sucks. You guys can’t tell facts from fiction. Stop reporting this story until you have your facts. In a court of law, the AJC would be prosecuted for slander and the journalist would lose their jobs. What a sorry profession to be in when all you do is report on the negative aspects of life and people.

RICH GUYS TROPHY WIFE HOT GIRLS SPEED DATING

By la

May 28, 2007 8:12 PM | Link to this

Erin, Your logic is flawed when you minimize the seriousness of animal cruelty pertaining to hunting by justifying it due to overpopulation of animals. I own several properties so I am not at the locations all the time. Owners are not responsible for their tenants behavior because some people appear to be good people but you have to evict them due to non-payments,criminal activity or violations of the lease agreements. Unfortunately, race is used as an excuse in this country to oppress people. I think that racism is an abomination to God because all people are created equal. I do not believe that Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would be attacked like this. Just read the comments on this blog from people attacking Michael Vick with stereotypical racial slurs such as thug,n**** and drug-dealer. They have not found any drugs on that property at all. The perceptions of African-Americans is negative especially in Georgia so there is a double-standard. you would know this if you were African-American.

By lbean

May 28, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

How many times does this guy need to screw up before something is done? One of the highest paid athletes…what kind of role model do we have here for the kids in Atlanta? Falcons mgt -smarten up!

By philly fan

May 28, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this

vick is done!!! he sucks anyways, atl you shot yourself by trading scuab

By philly fan

May 28, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this

vick is done!!! he sucks anyways, atl you shot yourself by trading your back up to houston

By Billy Otwell

May 28, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

Yes, Innocent until proven guilty. But his actions to this point make him look guilty. I hope the Falcons corner office is not waiting around to see what happens. Someone who is not staring severe NFL punishment in the face needs to be groomed to the throw a football and fast.

By no answer

May 28, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

If the police wants to catch Vick dogfighting why don’t they set up a sting operation like they do for drug deals,prostitution, and child preditors.Why don’t they have this informant get Vick on video or audio talking about a dogfight or attending a dogfight?The police came to Vicks house on a drug warrant,did they find any drugs?Vick is a liscensed breeder how did he get his creditals?How was he able to get to own a legal kennell?Don’t you think they do checks on people who run those kennells?Where did Vick purchase the equipment that was found at his house?is it illegal to have that equipment if you are a liscensed breeder?come on people there are too many questions on this case and it is too easy to solve.You guys talk about the water bottle incident,but the NFL has a very strict drug policy and they drug test players on a regular basis don’t believe me ask Quincey Carter or Rickey Williams.If Vick was a drug user don’t you think he would have failed a drug test by now?Vick gave the fans a bird,how many people flip people off in traffic every morning?The Ron Mexico case?how many people you know caught an STD before in college?As for the name Ron Mexico, a lot of famous people use fake names when they check into hotels,make dinner or airplane reservations,or go to the hospital or rehab.

By FinishedWithFalcons

May 28, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

Hunting and Dog Fighting are NOT the same thing…

Although I haven’t hunted for years, I grew up hunting. Hunting as I know it involves eating what you kill. You don’t shoot it or keep it unless you’re going to eat it - period.

Do the dog fighting deviates eat the loosing dog after they watch it slowly get ravaged? Of course not! They pleasure in the suffering and killing.

I would agree people who kill animals just for the pleasure of killing are no better than the dog fighters, but don’t group them with legitimate hunters who enjoy a tasty venison stake, a trout fillet over a camp fire, or a Pheasant Marmalade.

By Falcons Fan

May 28, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

Wake me up when ANYONE is charged in this media investigation.

Let’s play some ball!

By Erin

May 28, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this

La,

How am I minimizing or justifying hunting when i say I abhor it? Again, I was simply pointing out the difference between the two, not saying one was ok and the other one isn’t. You are repeating yourself and not reading what I am saying.

Also, when did I ever mention drugs? I said the dogs and fighting paraphanalia were pretty damning evidence and that Vick is using the fact that he rents the house to his cousin so therefore did not know what was going on is riduculous.

And how do you know I am not African American? Take the high road and do not use the race card here. I am sick and tired of people using that as an excuse whenever a high profile athelete gets into trouble. Black, white, purple, or green, there is enough evidence mounting that points to Vick being involved and culpable. I don’t care WHAT color his skin is, he is a dirt bag and I hope he is convicted and goes to jail. People would say the same thing if it were Tom or Peyton, but they’d be using terms like “white trash” and “cracker”, so there you go. I don’t doubt there are racial issues in Georgia, but that is not the case here. People on here using derogatory terms regarding his race are just as ignorant, classless, and uneducated as Vick is.

I’m not going to continue to argue with you, since it’s obvious that YOU are using this as a racial platform and I just have no arguments or time for that. This is about dog-fighting and whether or not he is involved. I would bet a years salary that he is and am interested to see what you post when that article comes to light.

By FinishedWithFalcons

May 28, 2007 8:32 PM | Link to this

Hunting and Dog Fighting are NOT the same thing…

Although I haven’t hunted for years, I grew up hunting. Hunting as I know it involves eating what you kill. You don’t shoot it or keep it unless you’re going to eat it - period.

Do the dog fighting deviates eat the loosing dog after they watch it slowly get ravaged? Of course not! They pleasure in the suffering and killing.

I would agree people who kill animals just for the pleasure of killing are no better than the dog fighters, but don’t group them with legitimate hunters who enjoy a tasty venison stake, a trout fillet over a camp fire, or a Pheasant Marmalade.

By FinishedWithFalcons

May 28, 2007 8:33 PM | Link to this

Hunting and Dog Fighting are NOT the same thing…

Although I haven’t hunted for years, I grew up hunting. Hunting as I know it involves eating what you kill. You don’t shoot it or keep it unless you’re going to eat it - period.

Do the dog fighting deviates eat the loosing dog after they watch it slowly get ravaged? Of course not! They pleasure in the suffering and killing.

I would agree people who kill animals just for the pleasure of killing are no better than the dog fighters, but don’t group them with legitimate hunters who enjoy a tasty venison stake, a trout fillet over a camp fire, or a Pheasant Marmalade.

By Paul

May 28, 2007 8:39 PM | Link to this

Anybody saying the AJC wants to “get” Vick is insane. This fishwrapper loves blacks. Ever read the editorial pages? This town is run by blacks so dont try to say they get screwed around here. LOL the only ones getting screwed here are white people.

By #7

May 28, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this

MR. Blank has not screwed up the hater are the one that is screwed. He wants to win but the haters want a skin change. Mr. Blank has a heart and mind. The haters want Quarter back to look like they did in the 70’s. Mr . Blank is the best football owner this city has every had. He is not a good ole boy and thank God for that. Smith was a UGA man and he listen to them and look at there record . Jeff will not give up and we will see that AJC Sport be fair! And to the dog lover they are going to kill all of Vick dogs. Jeff so call dog lover let see if you will stand up for the dogs. It is not about the dogs it is for Jeff and the good ole boy media to take Vick out. When Vick is cleared ESPN AJC Sport will not rest they want him gone. I don’t see them trying to fine of the killer of a player in Denver. The ESPM AJC Sports has agenda it is to take vick out!

By Allen

May 28, 2007 8:43 PM | Link to this

Guilty or not, Vick is plainly stupid…why? He kept 70-plus fighting dogs on his property…he lets idiots run the place (they’re idiots, relatives or not)…he sells the place for 50 cents on the dollar…

He’s a loser, dedicated to losing, dedicated to blaming receivers for dropping passes, dedicated to a thug lifestyle that decent people want no part of.

Kick him out now, and for every fan that walks away, 5 will line up in their place to see a team with integrity, guts, and character.

By Matt

May 28, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this

What kind of idiot would compare dogfighting to hunting? First, you have wild animals, not domesticated animales placed in a ring and forced to fight to the death. Secondly, responsible hunters eat all of their game. I suppose that is less humane than a slaughter house? Wow, there are more idiots in this world than I thought.

By Alan Johnson

May 28, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this

I am done with Vick and the Falcons as long as he is part of the team. First off, Vick is a thug in sheep’s clothing. He is just like his brother, he(Mike) was just able to hide it better. He just has had too many off-the-field issues. He simply is a self-centered egomaniac who wants to live the life, period; with no responsibility to youth, The Falcons, The NFL, or the City of Atlanta.

He has no clue how his actions affect youngsters and all those who look up to him. Before you scream, “he is not a role model, etc.” THAT IS BULL. Anyone that works in the limelight or as a public figure has that responsibility by default. Teachers, police officers, firefighters, politicians, athletes, etc. comes with the territory. If I had a dollar for every teenager I have heard say something to the effect of “thats not sex, Clinton said so”, or “I base my definitions of sex based on President Clinton”, etc. I would be a multi-millonaire. Now dogfighting, which is about the most DISGUSTING activity one can participate in, is going to be acceptable because of Vick in the eyes of our youth.

No wonder his NFL career has been mediocre at best. He is more concerned about dogfighting, etc. than being the best Atlanta Falcon he can be. How many chances is Blank going to give this guy?? I bet they are wishing they did not trade Schaub now….

You can tell a lot about a person’s character by how they treat animals. That tells me all I need to know about Vick. I wish there was someway Vick could trade positions with those dogs and see how it feels.

Yeah and Barry Bonds never took steroids either…..

By Alan

May 28, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this

I am done with Vick and the Falcons as long as he is part of the team. First off, Vick is a thug in sheep’s clothing. He is just like his brother, he(Mike) was just able to hide it better. He just has had too many off-the-field issues. He simply is a self-centered egomaniac who wants to live the life, period; with no responsibility to youth, The Falcons, The NFL, or the City of Atlanta.

He has no clue how his actions affect youngsters and all those who look up to him. Before you scream, “he is not a role model, etc.” THAT IS BULL. Anyone that works in the limelight or as a public figure has that responsibility by default. Teachers, police officers, firefighters, politicians, athletes, etc. comes with the territory. If I had a dollar for every teenager I have heard say something to the effect of “thats not sex, Clinton said so”, or “I base my definitions of sex based on President Clinton”, etc. I would be a multi-millonaire. Now dogfighting, which is about the most DISGUSTING activity one can participate in, is going to be acceptable because of Vick in the eyes of our youth.

No wonder his NFL career has been mediocre at best. He is more concerned about dogfighting, etc. than being the best Atlanta Falcon he can be. How many chances is Blank going to give this guy?? I bet they are wishing they did not trade Schaub now….

You can tell a lot about a person’s character by how they treat animals. That tells me all I need to know about Vick. I wish there was someway Vick could trade positions with those dogs and see how it feels.

Yeah and Barry Bonds never took steroids either…..

By Darrin "The Vent King"

May 28, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this

I wonder if this is how the fellas caught up in the Duke LaCrosse team scandal felt? What about Richard Jewell? I remember well the job this very paper put on an innocent man that was just trying to help people out. If this paper can get that so-ooo wrong, I wouldn’t doubt this is happening again. Nothing reported so far by this and many other media outlets has any substance behind it. The ajc prints rumors and gossip now? I do not condone animal abuse, but no evidence has been presented. If this witness ESPN’s OTL interviewed has made these claims and is a credible witness, why is Poindexter claiming their aren’t any witnesses or video tape evidence to even charge Vick? What? That guy doesn’t count? Why? This story and the ajc’s sensationalistic reporting of it is getting more confusing by the day. J.S., you don’t KNOW anymore than anyone else whether the league is going to act? What are you Cleo now? Why was there not ONE blog concerning Poindexter’s claims of “not enough evidence”? Where was the DISCUSS sign then? I know, this paper has already made up its mind that Vick is guilty and will only discuss that point of view. Yeah, that’s responsible journalism right there buddy for sure. (sarcasm on)

By D. Rod

May 28, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this

There was an article in the AJC this past week that quoted the prosecutor as saying that for the most part the dogs recovered were in good condition, the only dog that was in bad condition had a birth defect. He also went on the say that reports in the media were ERRONEOUS. So please until another article comes out don’t say the dogs were fighting dogs, because the prosecutor says they are not, and his opinion is the only one that matters. Also seems like the NFL is so quick to throw this man under the bus after he has made so much money for it/them.
Still innocent until proven guilty.

By chilly o wizz

May 28, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this

ITS OBVIOUS TO ALL THE MEDIA DEPISES MR. VICK; THE MEDIA TRULY HATES HIM WITH A PASSION. THE SAME SPORT WRITERS THAT HATE BARRY BONDS HAS THE SAME FEELINGS TOWARDS HIM. HE SHOULD BE WELL AWARE OF THIS. THE MEDIA DOES NOT WANT THIS YOUNG BLACK MAN TO SUCCEED AT ALL AND MIKE IS NOT HELPING HIMSELF WITH HIS QUESTIONABLE ACTIVI- TIES. BARRY BONDS IS ONE OF 95% OF THE CURRENT AND PAST BASEBALL PLAYERS WHO’VE TAKEN STEROIDS…BUT HE’S THIER POSTER BOY…YOU WANNA BLACK MAN TO LYNCH OVER AND OVER AGAIN…YOU HAVE OJ. HANG HIS A*.

By #7

May 28, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this

being educated don’t mean your heart is right .. There are people who have degree stack on top of each other. That mean you can be a educated fool and they are all over the placed. Is YOUR HEART RIGHT that what matter. I see a lot of blogger think they are better because they have a degree. we all come from the dirt is the front better than the back yard. NO How can any dirt say I am better? It is all about the heart!

By BOTTOM LINE: MIKE VICK SUCKS AT QUARTERBACK

May 28, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this

I don’t care if Mike Vick is the most righteous man to walk the face of the Earth since Jesus of Nazareth.

The bottom line is: he SUCKS at the quarterback position in the National Football League.

But, hey, I’m just offering this advice to you people, I’m a 49ers fan, so if you want to continue to lose, keep starting Mike Vick at quarterback.

By David Duke

May 28, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this

We don’t want to run Vick out of town. We want him in prison and gone from the NFL forever!

By Erin

May 28, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this

Matt and Finishedwith Falcons,

thank you for supporting the point I was trying to make to the poster “la” who is the one would made the comparison of dog fighting to hunting in the first entry of this blog. Because he does not seems to understand what i was trying to say about the two bring totally different. I personally do not believe in hunting and hate it, but it is absolutely 100% different than subjecting innocent domesticated animals to slow torturous deaths that they will eventually face.

By GT2002

May 28, 2007 9:05 PM | Link to this

First off, I am against dog fighting and if he is involved he should be punished just like anyone else but until evidence is brought forward we should all relax. I am not saying he is innocent but he has made some very questionable decisions recently which have not helped his public image and have made this latest situation even worse.

Now, I don’t know if Vick is guilty or not and it seems that everyone that is SUPPORTING him is missing the bigger issue. If any of us were paid millions of dollars each year by our employers to increase the revenue and profitability of our respective companies we would be held to much higher standards. If the stock price of the company you were the face of dropped due to a bad business decision how many of us would have jobs the next day? In the world I live in it is what you do for the bottom line and if this latest negative publicity that has been surrounding the Falcons causes Blank a significant hit to his bottom line and his reputation, you can bet changes will be made. Otherwise, as long as tickets and jerseys keep selling this will be a forgotten issue in 6 months. Let’s not forget why the dome sells out every Sunday. I think it has a lot to do with #7 and ultimately whether he is guilty or not, at the end of the day it is all about the mighty dollar.

By 911

May 28, 2007 9:05 PM | Link to this

Most of you people love dogs and animals,but hate Blacks,Mexicans,Gays,poor people,women,non christians,etc.Why don’t you people learn to love all people no matter what their race is?why is an animal life more important than humans life?More people are attacked or killed by dogs everyday in America,but you guys defend animals more than your fellow man

By couturegirl

May 28, 2007 9:06 PM | Link to this

Vick is a thug and always will be. He needs to be punished for this. I am tired of atheletes getting away with anything just of b/c of who they are..it is disgracedful. I am glad gooddell is leading with an iron fist and i hope he suspends vick. it is so pathetic how vick thinks he is invinceable and he is so ignorant to think “i can do anything and people will still love me.” (as quoted on WAGA) he needs to grow up and look at the company he keeps b/c they are ultimately going to be his downfall..

By 911

May 28, 2007 9:06 PM | Link to this

Most of you people love dogs and animals,but hate Blacks,Mexicans,Gays,poor people,women,non christians,etc.Why don’t you people learn to love all people no matter what their race is?why is an animal life more important than humans life?More people are attacked or killed by dogs everyday in America,but you guys defend animals more than your fellow man

By ME

May 28, 2007 9:06 PM | Link to this

Mr Shultz, I could be an unnamed informant who syays on ESPN that we do drugs and pick up hookers together but does that make it true. If there is someone who knows if Vick is involved or not then let him show his face, until then unnamed sources are people who aren’t brave enough to show their faces when making up stories and lying to the public. For all we know the unnamed informant could be Dan Patrick or Keith Olberman securing ratings for OUTSIDE THE LINES. I say let this story play out before we decide proper if any punishment for Mr. Vick.

By "D" in Houston

May 28, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

The media has kept this ship going, and recently put thrusters on it! This has blown up big time! and why? That’s what I need to know…..I mean a rape….a FREAKING RAPE, happened in a players home, and it has not touched the airwaves since. Vick p** the wrong person off, and that’s that. This is a lynching! If he is guilty…He’s guilty, but if he’s not? He should sue ESPN for the way they displayed the story…..They showed images, terrible images, and then associated those images to an individual who may….just may be innnocent…..Do I think he’s innocent? Well let’s just say my black and red blood won’t let me…..sorry. : )

By Forest Gump

May 28, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

Just like mama always said..”Stupid is as stupid does”!! How stupid is MV? Let me count the ways: 1.Ron Mexico herpes debacle 2: Flipping off the fans after a game 3: Water bottle with hidden weed compartment 4: Dog Fighting at home he owns in Virginia. How much more can he get away with? He is a thug from “da hood” and thats about all you can expect. King Arthur keeps smooching his butt. I say the Falcons will do good to win 7 games this year with Ron Mexico under center. This is not a racist rant..this is just the truth!

By CMS

May 28, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

I’m not a dog lover. O.K. I said it. I don’t fight dogs either. It is what it is. Like all of you I saw the piece on OTL and I heard the two journalist panelist talk about the cultural aspect of dogfighting. Well, I don’t know about that. As an African American living in the rural area of the state dogfighting is not an uncommon thing. Neither is chicken fighting. And certainly not hunting.

It seems alot of dog lovers treat their dogs like people which has sparked the venomous backlash at dogfighting. Truth be told I’ve seen two stray dogs go at it harder than the ones I saw on OTL. I’ve never been to a dogfight before, but from what someone told me all dogs that fight do not fight to the death, it all depends on how it is officiated.

You can call me contry, backwoods, or caveman, or whatever but, if you can watch two men in MMA beat eachother bloody until one blacks out…if you can watch a boxing match where the same thing happens …if you go fishing and watch a fish gasp for life from being out of the water …if you can watch violent football tackles cave in another man’s knee in the opposite direction and cheer. If you eat deer meat, rabit, chicken, beef,lamb, fish or whatever … I’ll just call you hypocrites with weak stomachs.

Some of you people like to live in the world with the veil over your eyes, and think that certain aspects of society are simply beneath you.

By will

May 28, 2007 9:13 PM | Link to this

I hear you people talking about being a role model and calling other people thugs, you need to be a role model for your own kids and stop preaching racism, if there was anything to associate Mike with being at a dog fight it would have come out by now, It is pathetic the way the AJC sportwriters have play the this story, either put up some real evidence or shut up. To speak of the NFL without speaking of the brutality associated with it is a crime in itself. Its a sad day in America to care more for dogs than humans. Jeff, I sorry to say but let it go. How many negative columns have you wrote on this?

By gg

May 28, 2007 9:14 PM | Link to this

it’s amazing to me how black people will defend their own no matter what. Look at OJ or Barry Bonds- and now Michael Vick. When will you people understand it’s not all about black and white-it’s about each individual person. I used to love Vick when he first came into the NFL, I am a life-long Falcon fan but now i am starting to see the light-Vick is just another thug. The problem with Vick being a thug is that he is the leader of the team and should be setting a good example. This is not just another receiver with an attitude this is our team leader. To me it wouldn’t matter if he’s purple, just win and show some class.

By seriously

May 28, 2007 9:14 PM | Link to this

Guys, if you honestly think that Vick did not know there were 60+ dogs on his property with pry bars, tred mills, and bloodsoaked rooms, then you really are blind. He knew, period. He is a gifted athlete but a complete moron. He has money and no maturity with a sense of entitlement. Whether or not he is convicted, he was involved. Just because you like him as a QB as I do, doesn’t mean he is a good guy.

By Jim Scarborough

May 28, 2007 9:19 PM | Link to this

ENOUGH OF THE VICK LOVE!!! How much longer are we going to paint him to be the greatest QB ever. He averages a pitiful 155 yards per game passing. Per year, he avgs 2600 yards from scrimmage with 15 TDS and 11 TOs. How is this great? Peyton Manning avgs 4200 with 32 and 17, McNabb 3200 with 22 and 11. Vick has 71 TDs in 74 games. For you math majors, that’s less than 1 per game. On top of VERY average stats, with all his super hero like moves, we still haven’t had two winning seasons in a row. As for the racist thing, I don’t buy it. Put in DJ Shockley, trade for McNabb, or bring Warren Moon out of retirement, but get this AVERAGE QB off the field, then he can go fight dogs, smoke dope(don’t try to tell me that that wasn’t a hide a safe with resin in it), spread VD (way to go, Ron Mexico), and flip of fans of some semi pro team. If he wants to behave like an amateur, let him be one again.

By My View

May 28, 2007 9:19 PM | Link to this

So you mean if Vick eats the dogs, then its OK. LOL. Face it, dogs are domesticated in the US. So dog fighting in a Country where dogs are eaten by humans is OK right? This is not the only double standard in America. Just the only one that currently can be used to scandalize a mans name. Since when does not liking a player on your favorite team, become cause to stop following. I don’t think there was this many people who said they would stop watching the Braves as long as Rocker was on the team. If it looks like a fool, blogs like a fool, and rationalizes like a fool, then it is probably a racist. Right?

By David Duke

May 28, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this

We don’t want to run Vick out of town. We want him in prison and gone from the NFL forever!

By BLANK IS A JEW AND VICK IS BLACK

May 28, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this

Most American men, especially Jewish American men, have secret homosexual love interests with Black athletes, and most of the time the Black athletes are all so happy to oblige them (the so-called “on the down low”).

THAT is what’s going on here - most American men want to have sex with Mike Vick, and, in all likelihood, Arthur Blank IS having sex with him.

By boots

May 28, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this

You guys need to know that MV7 is a head case and a case study in self-destructive behaviors. Unfortunately, he works for a dysfunctional organization that enables his destructive behaviors.

It’s time for an intervention. Maybe the league will care enought about Vick to take some action.

By CMS

May 28, 2007 9:21 PM | Link to this

So how do you all feel about bullfighting in Mexico? Thousands of people watch a matador toy with a bull until its death. Oh I forgot … its Mexico with a buch of Mexicans … nevermind.

By David Duke

May 28, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this

The gentleman frol the dark side of the tracks is trying to obfuscate the issues here. His attempts a equivocation are laughable. We know what the issues are. Mike Vick, a thug, is involved in organized crime and he’ll be going to prison for a very long time.

By Tina Day

May 28, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this

At this point, I don’t think it’s whether he is guilty or innocent, but what kind of example is he setting for the young people. Regardless of color, young kids looks up to these professional players. Would I want my son to be like “VICK”? I think not. Just because you make alot of money doesn’t give you the right to make poor choices. Until he turns himself around, he’s not going to amount to anything at all. He will eventually be pushed out of the NFL and then what kind of career will he have? Dog fighting…. hm… what a waste of college MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!….. Some kid who looked up to VICK just lost out on college money because they spent it all on him…….. it’s a shame.

By Ed

May 28, 2007 9:29 PM | Link to this

What’s with all the people on Vick’s jock? Eagles fans? The guy is going to keep the Falcons out of the SuperBowl. If this is what it takes to get him the heck out of Atlanta….I’ll volunteer for jury duty.

By smokey-mcpott

May 28, 2007 9:31 PM | Link to this

I have personally caught a contact buzz in the Kroger cookie aisle as Vick walked by and he also stood up a youth football team after he told the team he would speak to them after practice,

That is all the evidence I need to know he has no character.

And to all those people defending him ask yourself this question. What has he ever done to give back to the city or organization?

Warrick Dunn makes less than half of #7 and has done 100 times more.

By My View

May 28, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this

What about the war this country is in that is claiming thousand of humans lives. And not just American lives either. Come off that holy horse. People who care about life and the welfare of others should use some of this outrage on another forum. That’s why the race care is played so much, because its obvious. More important real life events are ignored so this can take center stage. The same people who routinely use the term “race card” are the same ones quick to call someone a “Vick apologist”. Your credibility is done as soon as either word is used. You are just a devil in disguise. If Vick is guilty, the legal system will say so. If not, leave this topic alone.

By TR

May 28, 2007 9:36 PM | Link to this

Let’s get to the truth of the matter Jeff. This isn’t about dog fighting…it’s about slowly and surely assassinating a player’s character to the point of running him out of Atlanta—and hopefully the NFL. We’ve all read about Vick’s incidents from the past; the ones that the AJC likes to bring up over and over again. Has Vick been convicted of anything? Does the prosecutor have hard evidence tying Vick and his dogs to actual fights? The prosecutor already stated that any eyewitnesses who was at the fight supposedly with Vick has little to no credibility—oh and by the way, has broke the law as well. So now ESPN goes and trumps up this so-called witness who fought dogs for over 35 years? Please, what does this say about this guy’s character. The AJC is The National Inquirer of Atlanta GA and couldn’t come up with newsworthy material of their own to save their lives. All you simply do is re-report the same news that was previously reported. Jeff you and your sports crew have to be the lamest bunch reporters in the media. If you’re going to report something, please question and brink light to the obvious holes in what’s being reported; like where would get $30 - 40k to fund a dog fight as a college student. Vick supposedly bet on his own dog, yet one of his “entourage” members brought the dog in…is this fact or an assumption on this guy’s part? Additionally, this is all about determining whether or not Vick has conducted fights—or raised dogs for fighting—at his VA property. Where did all of this fighting and betting take place? The informant conveniently left that out I see. When is the informant going to speak with the Surry prosecutor? He’s not. He already knows he’d be subpoenad to provide proof of his allegations, as well as, face the same charges himself. The AJC is getting really desperate now since their last ploy didn’t get Vick replaced. Finally, make sure you consistently assassinate everyone’s character that you decide to go after—not just Vick.

By Gumbo

May 28, 2007 9:37 PM | Link to this

What’s wrong with dogfighting?

What’s wrong with calling your women B*** and Ho’s?

What’s wrong with Kanye West’s lyrics?

What’s wrong with discouraging your children from getting and education because that would be “acting white”?

What’s wrong with the fact that the oldest minority in the US is the least successful despite the fact that they have had 50 years of Government handouts (or maybe it’s “because of” that fact).

Scream racism all you want (not the correct term by the way) - the truth hurts.

Hey Harrington, can you find the second (or third or fourth) receiver? Good - let’s get busy - or better yet, let Shockley give it a try….

By CMS

May 28, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

How many of you all are transplants, and how many of you all are actually from GA! You know the state that in recent years stopped flying the confederate flag?! Dogfighting … listen, COPS are into this sh#%, FIREMEN are into this sh^$, even POLITICIANS who make promises and smile in the camera, but could really give a rat’s a* about dogfighting until election year may be “allegedly” tied to this. I don’t think dogfighting is a “black” thing or a “white” thing. Honestly its a poverty thing that goes back for generations. Some of you all really have been living and enjoying the plush life.

By willy

May 28, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

Hey, they are just dogs. Let’s raise ‘em, starve ‘em, and let them fight it out. Just entertainment, and they are just dogs.

By "D" in Houston

May 28, 2007 9:44 PM | Link to this

Jim Scarborough, your math is a little sideways, Mr. Harvard! You forgot to mention pass attempts! Here are 3 year pass attempt averages within a year for some QB’s you mentioned Mr. Princeton!…..Manning 505, McNabb 435, Brady 511, Kerry FREAKING Collins 526 Vick? 269…In fact there were 26 QB’s who averaged more pass attempts in a year than Vick and that’s based off of 3 year stats! Not one year here, one year there. But NO!!! Vick sucks, Vick can’t throw from the pocket…Vick can’t lead a team to the playoffs…Whatever! You want talent? Look up who the 1st QB in playoff history was to lead a road team to Lambeau field and leave with a victory…..or better yet, check out the Cinncinati and Pittsburgh games from lat year and see what he is capable of. The guys “O” line sucked, and his Receivers? Even worse. See ya later, Mr. Stanford…..all stats are from CBSSPORTSLINE.COM….Mr. Yale! You Poser! You ain’t no Falcons fan…You ain’t no Tommy Nobis, William Andrews, Jesse Tuggle, Steve Bartkowski, Billy White Shoes Johnson, type of fan! Your a life long Cowboys fan…..Jackass! Go back to Dallas! Stay Black! LOL!——by the way, I really am black. LOL! The irony!

By Erin

May 28, 2007 9:44 PM | Link to this

My View,

Since I am the one that used the term race card, I am assuming you are referring to me. I would first like to say do not preach to me about the Iraq war because my husband and best friend are both currently on their 3rd tours over there. Which brings me to my next point, that the war has NOTHING to do with this issue. This forum is about the Vick issue, that is why people are on here! I personally feel something as abomindable as dog fighting is an important issue when someone who is supposed to be a role model is involed. If you don’t like it or are so disturbed that we are wasting our energy posting about it, go find another forum to preach about your view.

By **billy g**

May 28, 2007 9:46 PM | Link to this

If proof exists, bring it forth.

Cloaked informants are not enough to prove guilt. If they were, we would be living in a totalitarian society like Franco’s Spain, Hitler’s Germany or Castro’s Cuba.

Fortunately, we live in the USA. The accused must be proven guitly. If MV is guilty, he will be punished accordingly. However, we insult our county’s forefathers when we accuse, try and convict someone in the media.

So, what remains is nothing but gossip. I’ll ignore this whole thing until the authorities gather their evidence take action.

By Tez

May 28, 2007 9:46 PM | Link to this

The reports that the animals at Vick’s property had injuries and were abused have been labeled as “erroneous”. I hope that your paper will retract all of the bashing that has been done to Vick based off of “erroneous evidence”. Secondly, I hope you will talk about the terrible job of the DA just like you did with the Duke Lacrosse case. I do believe that the Duke Lacrosse team was treated with far more dignity then Vick. Even though the abuse of a woman was at question instead of the abuse of dogs. No matter how you look at it a dog is an animal and a human has a soul. You can easily claim the race card. But you can’t deny facts.

Quote from CNN: Since the raid, Poindexter said, erroneous reports have surfaced that the dogs were malnourished and that many had scarring and injuries consistent with dog fighting. The dogs, he said, appeared largely to have been well cared for, and the only one that required immediate veterinary care had a broken leg because of a birth defect.

By Steve T

May 28, 2007 9:46 PM | Link to this

I will start that I expect more from the media. You guys have turned this situation with Mike Vick in to a witch hunt. I expect you guys to provide the reader with both sides of the issue.

ESPN had a guy on to talk about Vick and dog fighting. After reading several articles, it would be easy for a first year law student to discredit this guy. It sounds to me that this has never seem Mike Vick in person. He heard that it was Mike Vick dog. In a court of law this is call hear say. Heck he has never seen Mike Vick at at fight. This guy needs to be charged with slander.

Now let us look at the facts in this dog fighting thing:

1) You guys reported that the dogs were in bad shape. The DA had an vet examize the dogs and he got a glowing health report.

2) You guys reported that dogs were trained for fighting. It was reported by papers in VA that half the dogs were aggressive.

3) It has been reported that dog fighting is a billion dollar a year business. It is a secret business. It is hard to catch people.
Yet you guys fail to report why Vick’s cousin was arrested for selling drugs. It does not make sense. If he was fighting dogs, he could generate up to 1 million dollars per fight. Why would ther be a need to sell drugs.

Do me a favor let turn the story back to why the police came to house in the first place. I have yet to hear the amount of drugs Vick’s cousin had when he was busted. He would have to had lot to generate 1 million dollars.

I have lost all respect for the media and it ability to be fair in it’s coverage.

By The Truth

May 28, 2007 9:49 PM | Link to this

The prosecuter has said many times that they don’t have any evidence of Vick being involved in dog fighting. After Vick is cleared the idiots at the AJC will do their best to keep this going. Vick will be cleared and make his 4 th probowl this year. How many bad QB’s make the probowl numerous times? Answer = none

Go Falcons!! Go Vick!!

By willy

May 28, 2007 9:49 PM | Link to this

they are just dogs. we eat cows and pigs.

By Matt

May 28, 2007 9:50 PM | Link to this

Anyone who would post under the name David Duke is a bigger idiot than Mike Vick ever considered being. I can’t believe some of the racism that is on this board. This is about Mike Vick being an stupid. It has nothing to do with him being a black guy. I can’t stand Vick, but some of you racist guys are no better than his cousin running the show in VA (and I am a white guy from lower Alabama). David, let me give you some advice:

Better to let people assume you’re an idiot than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

By Matthew At The SLC

May 28, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this

* HEY JEFF, WEREN’T THE DUKE BOYS GUILTY, TOO?*

We’re still waiting for YOUR apology to the Duke Boys, because I believe it was YOU who had them tried and convicted not long before they were exhonorated. You’d think that allegations wouldn’t be enough to try and convict a man. You’d think that the media would have learned it’s lesson. Don Banks, who has a grudge against Vick, uses SECRET sources to write a hit piece on him. ESPN wants in on this circus (ratings), so they find a guy who’s an admitted felon (he fights dogs) to tell us that Vick had tens of thousands of dollars while he was in COLLEGE. I’m sorry, but not even Tee Martin at Tennessee or Rhett Bomar at Oklahoma had tens of thousands of dollars while getting paid off in college. So where the hell did Vick get that money WHILE IN COLLEGE!!!? How many more bogus SECRET sources must we listen too? Is Vick guilty… maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. But there hasn’t been one shred of credible, undoubtable evidence to come forth or that has been found.

You think, Jeff, that you would have learned from your daliance with the Duke Boys. You didn’t, the AJC didn’t, and SI and ESPN didn’t. It’s the SOS from the American media. Just like with Dan Rather and the fake Bush papers. Y’all wonder why the rest of us think you’re scum, when you really shouldn’t wonder about it at all. Just read some of your own tripe and try not to get sick.

By laneyw

May 28, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this

Whatever VA is going to do they need to do it NOW, I betcha they try to wait to do it soon as the season starts. They need to do it NOW before pre-season.

By laneyw

May 28, 2007 9:56 PM | Link to this

Whatever VA is going to do they need to do it NOW, I betcha they try to wait to do it soon as the season starts. They need to do it NOW before pre-season.

By boots

May 28, 2007 9:57 PM | Link to this

T.R.

Sorry, but the wounds that Vick has received are self-inflicted. You’re not gonna get away with blaming others for the situation Vick finds himself in at the moment.

I’m gonna call B.S. on that one.

By Scott

May 28, 2007 10:00 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is a sick person. Anyone who can rationalize training, betting on and watching dogs kill themselves for pleasure has serious issues. Let’s get real. This guy needs help and if any of you support this creep then you need to take a long look in the mirror.

By My View

May 28, 2007 10:00 PM | Link to this

Erin, sorry to inform you, but I was not talking to you specifically. I was speaking to many more than you. So tell me, is it your arrogance that made you think that I was talking to you, or is it true. A hit dog will holler.

On another note, I truly hope your husband and best friend make it back home safely. I feel for you, them, and anybody living with that reality. I just hate for people to run a mans name through the mud although he has only been accused. And act as though they live like Christ.

By jag count

May 28, 2007 10:01 PM | Link to this

At the end of the day this is character assasination. When Brady fathered kids out of wedlock that story was buried quick as hell, but Vick a black QB that the ajc does not like has some legal issues and the good ole boys in atlanta will not let it go. There has been nothing but bad info and terrible reporting for the last four months including the front page story that Vick was ticketed for tresspassing while fishing on someones property. How is that newsworthy.

By Jim Scarborough

May 28, 2007 10:04 PM | Link to this

Bid D- No I am a Junior Miller, David Archer, Lynn Cain, Tom Pridemore, Jim Mitchell, Gritz Blitz type Falcon fan. And those stats that I got off cbs sportsline, they were total stats from all of his years divided by games played. As far as the lack of talent around him, the greatest players MAKE those around them great. And as far as being a Dallas fan, You got that right. And, for the record, I am Mr. Georgia State.

By tim

May 28, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this

Anyone supporting Vick at this point is a damn fool. I hope Mexico gets kicked out of the league. If he doesn’t get firm discipline for this, then maybe this really is the thug league.

By dean

May 28, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this

I do not like Vick and do not think he will ever be a consistant quarterback. However press and espn in particular like to build someone up and then try to destroy them. I would not put much credience in what espn reported. Also how many times has ajc touted some kid out of high school as the next best thing and then ripped this same kid when he was not as good as their hype. If the authorities had anything solid on vick it would be out by now. If there was any truth to the allegations the falcons would be doing more to get a quarterback ready or finding one.

By Stephen

May 28, 2007 10:06 PM | Link to this

Newsflash To: real falcon fan The “we blacks like vick” statement is interesting. Who is this “WE” that you refer to? There is a large contingency of Black Falcons’ fans, in the ATL metro area, that feel that MV is a talented athlete but a poor representative of a Black male role model, has exhibited very limited leadership skills and is a very negative sports image for Atlanta. If they don’t get him on the current allegations it will be something else in the future because he is a THUG. Ever heard the expression, “if it walks like a thug, acts like a thug, talks like a thug, associates with thugs, just maybe it TOO is really a THUG?”

By #7

May 28, 2007 10:07 PM | Link to this

Vick 3000 + Yards passing THIS YEAR 500 YARD RUSHING. THE FALCONS 11-5.Haters will be in melt down mode every since Vick broke his leg and mr.blank pushed Vick on to the field the redneck went in to melt down mode and AJC sport. MR. Blank has a heart and mind he cares for this city . The redneck just want thing to be like when the smith had the team. This is why we lost listening to redneck fans and good ole boy media. Go blank and go Vick and our home team the Falcons! 11-5! ESPN go to hell with that good ole boy gossip. There is no new news but you have agenda!

By jag count

May 28, 2007 10:10 PM | Link to this

The confederate south is still alive. the newspapers in the major markets are not even covering the story as much as the AJC. I have the quote of the day if you don’t like vick don’t come to the game give up your tickets so real supporters can get in the dome and that includes the press box.

By la

May 28, 2007 10:14 PM | Link to this

Matt, You are the idiot because of your double-standard when it comes to animal cruelty with regards to hunting as a sport not for eating. I bet you have a deer head in your living room as a trophy. What difference does a make if people are killing domesticated animals or wild animals? That is a flawed argument. You want to excuse your ignorant behavior and condemn someone else who has not been proven guilty.

By TDone

May 28, 2007 10:14 PM | Link to this

I debated saying anything about this, but here is somewhat of a unique take on it. The reason is this a all about slavery, make that reverse slavery. As we know, the former masters used to take sport in seeing the slaves battle it out. Now we have one-to-many men, and it appears many of them black, taking sport in having two “animals” battle it out. This is not about boxing, where though the same thing occurs, the boxers can opt out. Nore is this about wrestling, or UFC, again where the combatants have the free will to opt out.

In this case, you have animals who can’t opt out, just like slaves.

If Michael Vick or anyone else is involved in this, they should be gone. Essentially because they should know better.

And that silence you hear is our black leadership knowing the truth, but not saying anything about it.

By Erin

May 28, 2007 10:19 PM | Link to this

My View,

Arrogant describes someone who believes they are better or above others. I simply saw your post addressing people using the term race card, and since I had just used it my last post, assumed it was directed to that. I really don’t see how that can be considered arrogant.

Regardless, you preaching about how others are spending their time on here posting about Vick when they should be on other forums regarding more important issues was my point. Furthermore, coming to a forum dedicated to one issue and telling people to get off their “holy horse” and go post on more important issues is pretty arrogant if you ask me.

I will say again, innocent until proven guilty, but this is not the first incident with Michael Vick in the NFL, so i don’t think anyone is dragging his name through the mud. He put himself into this position, and therefore must suffer the consequences.

By j

May 28, 2007 10:20 PM | Link to this

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!! GO VICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOWEVER, YOU MUST GET YOURSELF TOGETHER! I DO BELIEVE YOU ARE A JERK! IF YOU DO NOT CLEAN UP YOUR ACT; YOU WILL GO DOWN. BLANK AND EVERYONE ELSE BELIEVES IN YOU. FIND A NICE GIRL AND SETTLE DOWN.

By CMS

May 28, 2007 10:21 PM | Link to this

When Vick gets suspended and/or convicted, alot of you will be elated. Maybe even a little aroused at what b*&chin on a blog can do. Then it will be business as usual, and the AJC Sports Columnists blogs won’t get nearly as much hits. Eventually,hopefully, prayerfully, the AJC will either do real journalistic work, or simply go out of business. The funny thing is they will probably do real journalistic work while going out of business.

By Dale

May 28, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this

MICHAEL VICK WAS JUST TRADED TO CINCINNATI!!! In a shocking move, Arthur Blank, being true to his character, moved the Falcons franchise forward by trading Vick to the Cincinnati Bengals for a symbolic fifty cents. Blanks was quoted as saying, ” I have never been associated with a more dispicable human being in my life. When I ponied up $400 million hard earn dollars to build another quality organization, I inherited Vick. His actions in the previous 36 months in Atlanta have dug him a grave, no one can dig out of. I am an equal opportunity employer, but I have no clue where someone learns or gets pleasure out of seeing a living creature yelp in agony as another trained assasin rips there ear and throat off. I can respect the sport of Ultimate Fighting because they have Big John standing there in the heat of battle, protecting the gladiators from extreme torture or permananet harm. The reason why Vick’s dogs were not amaciated was because he needed them to be 100% healthy athletes so he could entertain the boy’s (of all colors) on Friday nights.”

Blank continued to state, “A MAN”S TRUE CHARACTER IS EVIDENT IN HOW HE TREATS ONE OF GODS CREATURES. There are plenty of other exhibits of bad character in the world regarding animals, but dog fighting is as bad as slowly killing someone by torture. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!!”

Cincinnati is very excited to add this Stallion to their stable of thugs and hope he can continue the idiocracy that has been plagueing this franchise for the past few years.

Blank ended the interview by stating, “Atlanta, my family and I would like to wash the slate clean and apologize for our delay in making this trade. The delay was solely for legal reasons as we were not about to risk having to pay Mr. Vick his 2008 contract until we had the legal ability to escape this unfortunate contract. Wether Vick was ultimately responsible for the house of dog fighting in Virginia, we don’t care. We have never been inclined to be associated with someone who has made so many poor decisions without any solace or humiliation. If Vick does choose to change his lifestyle and begin to atleast make wrongs right in his life, we would love to have his skill set back on our team. If he truly saw his wrong and repented by crossing the country and teaching all elementary students the importance of respecting God’s creatures; not tying them up to a tree to die because you can’t take care of them, not sticking them in a cage for weeks until they die of starvation, not beating them or neglecting them for years….just teach them to care and respectful for all creatures.”

Blank conclude the news conference by saying he plans to move the Falcon’s out of the inner city and into Gwinnett to get a fresh start. In addition, he has decided to honor his contract with the Georgia Dome through 2010 by hosting a “No holds bar to the death, ultimate fighting marathon on every Sunday that the Falcons were scheduled to play. He expects the inner city crowds to be comparable to the previous years and plans on taking the fans entry fees and gambling wages and donate to the thousands of animals that are abused, neglected and treated like slaves in todays society by a the same “scurvy dogs” that were submitted to chains, whips, slavery, oppression, humiliation, starvation, lack of freedom, etc…less than 60 years ago.

Blank is committed to winning with class and quality people. Most fans agree, they would prefer to be associated with a losing team than a team with loosers.

Kudos to Blank for showing class.

In a related story, Joe Montana, Hank Aaron, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods and Magic Johnson, all agreed to being approached by dogfighting sellers throughout their career, but admitted they had some internal “right,wrong” clicker go off in their head keeping them away from soemthing so stupid. They chose to choose their friends wisely, avoid temptations and use their fortunate fortunes to make good in life; not continue the sins of their elders.

By Richard Tomei

May 28, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this

Gee I dont know why everyone is mad at Vick. He has a 130 million dollar contract and dont have any idea how to stay out of the headlines or play football. VICK MUST BELIEVE ALL THUGS HE HANGS WITH THAT HE IS ABOVE THE LAW. YOU THINK????

By Doug

May 28, 2007 10:24 PM | Link to this

MICHAEL VICK WAS JUST TRADED TO CINCINNATI!!! In a shocking move, Arthur Blank, being true to his character, moved the Falcons franchise forward by trading Vick to the Cincinnati Bengals for a symbolic fifty cents. Blanks was quoted as saying, ” I have never been associated with a more dispicable human being in my life. When I ponied up $400 million hard earn dollars to build another quality organization, I inherited Vick. His actions in the previous 36 months in Atlanta have dug him a grave, no one can dig out of. I am an equal opportunity employer, but I have no clue where someone learns or gets pleasure out of seeing a living creature yelp in agony as another trained assasin rips there ear and throat off. I can respect the sport of Ultimate Fighting because they have Big John standing there in the heat of battle, protecting the gladiators from extreme torture or permananet harm. The reason why Vick’s dogs were not amaciated was because he needed them to be 100% healthy athletes so he could entertain the boy’s (of all colors) on Friday nights.”

Blank continued to state, “A MAN”S TRUE CHARACTER IS EVIDENT IN HOW HE TREATS ONE OF GODS CREATURES. There are plenty of other exhibits of bad character in the world regarding animals, but dog fighting is as bad as slowly killing someone by torture. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!!”

Cincinnati is very excited to add this Stallion to their stable of thugs and hope he can continue the idiocracy that has been plagueing this franchise for the past few years.

Blank ended the interview by stating, “Atlanta, my family and I would like to wash the slate clean and apologize for our delay in making this trade. The delay was solely for legal reasons as we were not about to risk having to pay Mr. Vick his 2008 contract until we had the legal ability to escape this unfortunate contract. Wether Vick was ultimately responsible for the house of dog fighting in Virginia, we don’t care. We have never been inclined to be associated with someone who has made so many poor decisions without any solace or humiliation. If Vick does choose to change his lifestyle and begin to atleast make wrongs right in his life, we would love to have his skill set back on our team. If he truly saw his wrong and repented by crossing the country and teaching all elementary students the importance of respecting God’s creatures; not tying them up to a tree to die because you can’t take care of them, not sticking them in a cage for weeks until they die of starvation, not beating them or neglecting them for years….just teach them to care and respectful for all creatures.”

Blank conclude the news conference by saying he plans to move the Falcon’s out of the inner city and into Gwinnett to get a fresh start. In addition, he has decided to honor his contract with the Georgia Dome through 2010 by hosting a “No holds bar to the death, ultimate fighting marathon on every Sunday that the Falcons were scheduled to play. He expects the inner city crowds to be comparable to the previous years and plans on taking the fans entry fees and gambling wages and donate to the thousands of animals that are abused, neglected and treated like slaves in todays society by a the same “scurvy dogs” that were submitted to chains, whips, slavery, oppression, humiliation, starvation, lack of freedom, etc…less than 60 years ago.

Blank is committed to winning with class and quality people. Most fans agree, they would prefer to be associated with a losing team than a team with loosers.

Kudos to Blank for showing class.

In a related story, Joe Montana, Hank Aaron, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods and Magic Johnson, all agreed to being approached by dogfighting sellers throughout their career, but admitted they had some internal “right,wrong” clicker go off in their head keeping them away from soemthing so stupid. They chose to choose their friends wisely, avoid temptations and use their fortunate fortunes to make good in life; not continue the sins of their elders.

By Doug

May 28, 2007 10:24 PM | Link to this

MICHAEL VICK WAS JUST TRADED TO CINCINNATI!!! In a shocking move, Arthur Blank, being true to his character, moved the Falcons franchise forward by trading Vick to the Cincinnati Bengals for a symbolic fifty cents. Blanks was quoted as saying, ” I have never been associated with a more dispicable human being in my life. When I ponied up $400 million hard earn dollars to build another quality organization, I inherited Vick. His actions in the previous 36 months in Atlanta have dug him a grave, no one can dig out of. I am an equal opportunity employer, but I have no clue where someone learns or gets pleasure out of seeing a living creature yelp in agony as another trained assasin rips there ear and throat off. I can respect the sport of Ultimate Fighting because they have Big John standing there in the heat of battle, protecting the gladiators from extreme torture or permananet harm. The reason why Vick’s dogs were not amaciated was because he needed them to be 100% healthy athletes so he could entertain the boy’s (of all colors) on Friday nights.”

Blank continued to state, “A MAN”S TRUE CHARACTER IS EVIDENT IN HOW HE TREATS ONE OF GODS CREATURES. There are plenty of other exhibits of bad character in the world regarding animals, but dog fighting is as bad as slowly killing someone by torture. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!!”

Cincinnati is very excited to add this Stallion to their stable of thugs and hope he can continue the idiocracy that has been plagueing this franchise for the past few years.

Blank ended the interview by stating, “Atlanta, my family and I would like to wash the slate clean and apologize for our delay in making this trade. The delay was solely for legal reasons as we were not about to risk having to pay Mr. Vick his 2008 contract until we had the legal ability to escape this unfortunate contract. Wether Vick was ultimately responsible for the house of dog fighting in Virginia, we don’t care. We have never been inclined to be associated with someone who has made so many poor decisions without any solace or humiliation. If Vick does choose to change his lifestyle and begin to atleast make wrongs right in his life, we would love to have his skill set back on our team. If he truly saw his wrong and repented by crossing the country and teaching all elementary students the importance of respecting God’s creatures; not tying them up to a tree to die because you can’t take care of them, not sticking them in a cage for weeks until they die of starvation, not beating them or neglecting them for years….just teach them to care and respectful for all creatures.”

Blank conclude the news conference by saying he plans to move the Falcon’s out of the inner city and into Gwinnett to get a fresh start. In addition, he has decided to honor his contract with the Georgia Dome through 2010 by hosting a “No holds bar to the death, ultimate fighting marathon on every Sunday that the Falcons were scheduled to play. He expects the inner city crowds to be comparable to the previous years and plans on taking the fans entry fees and gambling wages and donate to the thousands of animals that are abused, neglected and treated like slaves in todays society by a the same “scurvy dogs” that were submitted to chains, whips, slavery, oppression, humiliation, starvation, lack of freedom, etc…less than 60 years ago.

Blank is committed to winning with class and quality people. Most fans agree, they would prefer to be associated with a losing team than a team with loosers.

Kudos to Blank for showing class.

In a related story, Joe Montana, Hank Aaron, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods and Magic Johnson, all agreed to being approached by dogfighting sellers throughout their career, but admitted they had some internal “right,wrong” clicker go off in their head keeping them away from soemthing so stupid. They chose to choose their friends wisely, avoid temptations and use their fortunate fortunes to make good in life; not continue the sins of their elders.

By Doug

May 28, 2007 10:26 PM | Link to this

ICHAEL VICK WAS JUST TRADED TO CINCINNATI!!! In a shocking move, Arthur Blank, being true to his character, moved the Falcons franchise forward by trading Vick to the Cincinnati Bengals for a symbolic fifty cents. Blanks was quoted as saying, ” I have never been associated with a more dispicable human being in my life. When I ponied up $400 million hard earn dollars to build another quality organization, I inherited Vick. His actions in the previous 36 months in Atlanta have dug him a grave, no one can dig out of. I am an equal opportunity employer, but I have no clue where someone learns or gets pleasure out of seeing a living creature yelp in agony as another trained assasin rips there ear and throat off. I can respect the sport of Ultimate Fighting because they have Big John standing there in the heat of battle, protecting the gladiators from extreme torture or permananet harm. The reason why Vick’s dogs were not amaciated was because he needed them to be 100% healthy athletes so he could entertain the boy’s (of all colors) on Friday nights.”

Blank continued to state, “A MAN”S TRUE CHARACTER IS EVIDENT IN HOW HE TREATS ONE OF GODS CREATURES. There are plenty of other exhibits of bad character in the world regarding animals, but dog fighting is as bad as slowly killing someone by torture. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!!”

Cincinnati is very excited to add this Stallion to their stable of thugs and hope he can continue the idiocracy that has been plagueing this franchise for the past few years.

Blank ended the interview by stating, “Atlanta, my family and I would like to wash the slate clean and apologize for our delay in making this trade. The delay was solely for legal reasons as we were not about to risk having to pay Mr. Vick his 2008 contract until we had the legal ability to escape this unfortunate contract. Wether Vick was ultimately responsible for the house of dog fighting in Virginia, we don’t care. We have never been inclined to be associated with someone who has made so many poor decisions without any solace or humiliation. If Vick does choose to change his lifestyle and begin to atleast make wrongs right in his life, we would love to have his skill set back on our team. If he truly saw his wrong and repented by crossing the country and teaching all elementary students the importance of respecting God’s creatures; not tying them up to a tree to die because you can’t take care of them, not sticking them in a cage for weeks until they die of starvation, not beating them or neglecting them for years….just teach them to care and respectful for all creatures.”

Blank conclude the news conference by saying he plans to move the Falcon’s out of the inner city and into Gwinnett to get a fresh start. In addition, he has decided to honor his contract with the Georgia Dome through 2010 by hosting a “No holds bar to the death, ultimate fighting marathon on every Sunday that the Falcons were scheduled to play. He expects the inner city crowds to be comparable to the previous years and plans on taking the fans entry fees and gambling wages and donate to the thousands of animals that are abused, neglected and treated like slaves in todays society by a the same “scurvy dogs” that were submitted to chains, whips, slavery, oppression, humiliation, starvation, lack of freedom, etc…less than 60 years ago.

Blank is committed to winning with class and quality people. Most fans agree, they would prefer to be associated with a losing team than a team with loosers.

Kudos to Blank for showing class.

In a related story, Joe Montana, Hank Aaron, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods and Magic Johnson, all agreed to being approached by dogfighting sellers throughout their career, but admitted they had some internal “right,wrong” clicker go off in their head keeping them away from soemthing so stupid. They chose to choose their friends wisely, avoid temptations and use their fortunate fortunes to make good in life; not continue the sins of their elders.

By Erin

May 28, 2007 10:26 PM | Link to this

If anyone is trying to defend Vicks’ character, I have personally been in a house or apartment off campus when he was at VT, and saw him on mutliple occassions buy drugs. He would even travel to nearby Radford University to purchase drugs from a friend of a friend of mine so he could maintain a low-profile. More evidence what a great human being he is.

My View,

i would also like to add in addition to my response, I was also the first poster to use the actual term “race card” on here, another reason why I assumed you were speaking to me. Whatever that bs about the hit dog comment was, I’m going to defend myself when I am accused of being arrogant.

By jag count

May 28, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this

Tdone or tbone whatever your name is if the black leadership is silent it compares to the same silence that some of your white descendants have shown for the last couple hundred years. If we are to condemn lets condemn everyone. the same people that created slavery also took land from the indians. so apologize and repay those two races before you write another dam word.

By #7

May 28, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this

Stephen prove Vick is a thug. All I have seen is Vick making some dumb moves that don’t make nobody a thug. Name a person that has not done dumb thing. The only thing different from Vick and you they put his dumb thing in the press and your they don’t . you people are real hypocrites. you see the speck in Vick eye and don’t see the log in your own eye!

By My View

May 28, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this

He put himself into this situation by breeding dogs. That it all he has been proven to do. Something that he admits to. So please explain how by doing so, did he “put himself into this situation”.

By My View

May 28, 2007 10:32 PM | Link to this

Erin, when I said come off your holy horse, I was talking to those who condone hunting, but condemn dog fighting. I think they are both wrong and was saying they could not judge vicks actions when they participated in similar acts. Again, a post not directed towards you. I know you say you are married and I respect that, but we have some chemistry. You are drawn to my posts. Lol!!!

By PUPPY LOVE

May 28, 2007 10:33 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick gave dogs in Virginia herpes?!?!?!??!

Oh, man, this just looks worse for our main dawg Mike with each passing day!

MV7 is one sick puppy.

How is Arthur Blank going to wag the dog on this one to divert our attention away from the troubles of our star QB?

Is Mike Vick going to be behind bars during the dog dayz of training camp?

Let us now paws to reflect on how this will affect the team’s image.

A story like this could get Mike in the doghouse with Coach Petrino before camp even starts.

Let us all think positive thoughts * fur * Mike.

Mike may have just been having fun at the time, but this story is seeing rabid coverage from the press.

Actions from his past are appearing to come up and bite Vick right in his tail now.

A story like this sure could put a tight leash on an NFL QB’s career.

This sure could make Mike Vick a major * underdog * for the NFL MVP award this year.

If charges are brought against Mike, I just hope he doesn’t decide to * flea * from the cops.

By uga thug

May 28, 2007 10:34 PM | Link to this

joe montanta did coke the media did nothing he was not a saint!

By Najeh Davenpoop

May 28, 2007 10:36 PM | Link to this

If Darth Vader’s interview on ESPN placing #7 at dog fights are accurate, #7 deserves whatever punishment he gets. Regardless of whether dog-fighting should be a crime or not, the fact that it is a felony should be enough for millionaire athletes to stay away. It doesn’t matter whether you like dogs or you like dog-fighting, if #7 put his multi-million dollar career on the line by knowingly committing felonies, he doesn’t deserve anyone’s sympathy.

That said, it doesn’t matter what any of us think. The only person’s opinion that matters is the prosecutor. I’m no lawyer or dog-fighting expert, but if the most compelling piece of evidence against #7 is a CI who admittedly has participated in thousands of dog-fights himself and who admitted that he only did the ESPN interview to “change people’s perceptions of dog-fighting”, somehow I find it unlikely that the prosecutors are going to be able to hang anything significant on #7. I’m more worried at this point about what Roger Goodell will do, because under the new fascist conduct policy there have probably been enough hits to #7’s image to warrant a suspension of a game or two, if not more. Regardless of whether you think Vick is a good QB or not, you’re delusional if you think this team wouldn’t suffer in his absence, considering that Joey Harrington is his backup.

I disagree with some of the people who have tried to discredit the CI’s credibility. A federal agent came on ESPN right after him saying he has helped in previous investigations. If you ask me, there’s a pretty good chance he’s telling the truth, or at least partly telling the truth. My point earlier is not that he’s lying, but that his testimony by itself is unlikely to help convict #7. SteveO, you’re right that a lot of trials are decided by witness testimony, but you know what else you need along with that? Corroborating evidence. At this time, based on the CI’s own statements, it’s unlikely that even he will commit to testifying if this goes to trial, let alone other dog-fighters. Because like he said, if #7 has to snitch on every dog-fighter in this country to stay out of jail, he will.

Finally, for Schultz to get on his high horse and act like Goodell will kick Vick out of the league if he is found guilty is unrealistic and foolish. If Goodell “needs anybody associated with” dog-fighting “out of the league”, I’d think he also wants people associated with the “sick pastimes” of vehicular homicide (Leonard Little), cocaine distribution (Jamal Lewis), assault on a police officer (Randy Moss), murder (Ray Lewis) out of the league too. Last I checked, all of them are happily collecting paychecks from various NFL teams, with no threat of expulsion from the league by Goodell. For Schultz to suggest that dog-fighting is more harmful to the NFL’s image than sexual assault or spousal abuse is beyond laughable, it’s irresponsible and really makes Schultz look like someone out to get #7, instead of someone out to see justice served.

By Erin

May 28, 2007 10:38 PM | Link to this

By owning a house where a large illegal dog-fighting operations was taking place is exactly what I mean by “put himself into this situation”. If you’re going to argue that he didn’t know about it or isn’t tied to it in someway, please save it.

By PUPPY LOVE

May 28, 2007 10:38 PM | Link to this

If Vick does wind up going to jail this summer, I bet that could make the a competition for Starting QB in FALCONS training camp a real dogfight.

By TR

May 28, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this

Boots,

Yes, it is true Vick’s wounds are self-inflicted; but does that give anyone the right to be judge and jury in the court of public opinion.

Blaming others for Vick’s problems? What are you talking about? It’s apparent you are clueless about what’s been truly going on with Vick and the AJC—and other media (FoxSports Radio, ESPN Radio & TV, etc.).

You’re trying to find fault with the reality of how Vick has been truly portrayed in the Atlanta media. For whatever reason, they have been attempting to find fault and get Vick out of Atlanta for quite some time now.

You can call it B.S. or whatever, but you can bet many of us who see through the TRUE B.S. knows what’s going on. Trying to proclaim Schaub as Vick’s replacement when the guy is still the team’s starting QB? Jeff Schultz is well aware of the subtle things he’s been trying to do in the media to pursuade the naive.

I KNOW BETTER!!! You believe what you want and I’ll believe what I want.

By uga thug

May 28, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this

Erin now you spread dirt what have you do or have done? This is gossip hater prove it!

By glory

May 28, 2007 10:45 PM | Link to this

Ron Mexico is going down.

By bo

May 28, 2007 10:46 PM | Link to this

Good call Jeff. Money talks and Vick walks. The little man takes the fall and Vicks keeps making the call. Money the name of the game.

By Larry

May 28, 2007 10:47 PM | Link to this

Anyone who involves himself in dogfighting in any way is subhuman and, at best, psychotic. There is joy in seeing two strong animals tear each other apart with their teeth? Why don’t they toss babies up in the air and catch them on bayonets? Vick, Portis and all the rest in dog fighting are the lowest scum possible. To put in in a way they would understand, “Killing is too good for them.”

By Erin

May 28, 2007 10:51 PM | Link to this

Its not gossip when I have seen it, and since it was nearly 8 years ago, obviously I don’t have proof. I am providing more information to prove that he is piece of crap that does not deserve the idiolization he gets from the ignorant people defending him. I am not a hater, I was a big Vick fan since our 99 championship run at VT, but now I think he’s despicable. Who cares about what a great or not great player he is? This forum is about what kind of person he is.

By TheTruthHurts

May 28, 2007 10:51 PM | Link to this

Vic should be put into a dog fighting ring with a pit bull, and let him see how well he does…Vick is thug and a digrace to the professionalism of being a Quarterback. That guy had NO class whatsoever. Lets hope he get convisted and suspended…we dont need this thug loser quarterbacking our team!

By Dr.Strangelove

May 28, 2007 10:55 PM | Link to this

WOW what ever happen to the Patrick Kerney rape case,AJC? Report that because that has not denied by Patrick or the police.I believe Kerney is a rapist.Patrick Kerney didn’t know what goes on in his house while he is THERE, but you expect Vick to know what happened in Virginia,in a house that he is rarely at?? Again, WOW.Common sense aint common.

By Najeh Davenpoop

May 28, 2007 10:57 PM | Link to this

One thing I did find weird about that ESPN interview was that the CI placed Vick at a dogfight in 2000. How exactly would he have had the time, space, and most importantly money to raise pit bulls for fighting when he was in college?

Anyway, I’m outta here. Happy Memorial Day. Support the troops — bring ‘em home.

By Idiots

May 28, 2007 11:00 PM | Link to this

You freakin’ idiots! Dogs are bred to be pets unlike deer, birds, fish, rabbits, and other game. I don’t know what if any involvement Vick had, but fighting dogs is only something that a sick demented person would do. I would not support these people in any forum and from what I have gathered, those that do-i.e. Clinton Portis- are scum of the earth ignorant stupid people.

By uga thug

May 28, 2007 11:01 PM | Link to this

larry any body that kills animal to hang on a wall are in the same boat you are a hypocrite

By Greedy

May 28, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this

where is the proof you smuck bastards , where is the proof, where is the proof, where is the proof. Its typical for us to carry the cross , but usually the masters that be have damning or framed evidence. Jeff u suck , steve wyche the c** writer u were cool , u blow a* now, terrence i hope to give you a face to face tongue lashing. One day we will meet at a sports bar. This 25 year old would love to debate you guys. C** writers , report something worthwhile, like yor 45k salaries ,lol

By Greedy

May 28, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this

where is the proof you smuck bastards , where is the proof, where is the proof, where is the proof. Its typical for us to carry the cross , but usually the masters that be have damning or framed evidence. Jeff u suck , steve wyche the c** writer u were cool , u blow a* now, terrence i hope to give you a face to face tongue lashing. One day we will meet at a sports bar. This 25 year old would love to debate you guys. C** writers , report something worthwhile, like yor 45k salaries ,lol

By THESINGLEVOICE

May 28, 2007 11:06 PM | Link to this

Let me be the first to say that if Mike is guilty of a crime he should pay. But nothing offered so far has even the inkling of being able to link him to anything. It is funny though when “certain vices” i.e cocaine, call girls,exotic dancers, dogfighting even bareknuckled fighting by humans are enjoyed by the society’s upper crust only, these activities are acceptable. It is only when these “vices” start to be enjoyed by the masses they become criminal and unacceptable by society. Bare knuckled fighting became UFC, and placed on television the others have been deemed unacceptable and anyone caught partaking in these activities automatically become the “DREGS” of our society that is until the righteous ones get caught and then they are somehow mentally disabled. Give me a break with all this self righteous talk, and ungenuine concern about animals.If animal cruelty is so bad then we should become a totally “VEGAN” society and stop eating animal meat. Oh then those so concerned about animal rights would not be able to barbecue at their tailgates and bash Vick while enjoying ribs, chicken, and burgers. My bad.

By thecultoflove

May 28, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this

vick is an easy target, let’s not forget that. he is overpaid and young and pretty dumb. brett farve is probably as scummy as players get, but you ain’t gonna read that in the newspaper. it’s all about the bling, fellas. vick needs to get a f&*^%$ clue or a good advisor, maybe both. but he is an easy target and don’t forget it. hell, i’m a white guy and i can see that.

By uga thug

May 28, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this

Erin what kind of person are you? You don’t seem to be that good . you are no better. you are no fan you have a agenda of hate!

By Ripme

May 28, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this

Every month or two something new comes out on #7, just how much more can Mr. Blank and the Falcons take.How can you beleive someone when every time you turn around he’s done something else. If he is not guilty its to late for his image and the Falcons PR is working with damaged goods. Time to cut your loses and move on.

By John Kerry

May 28, 2007 11:10 PM | Link to this

To all the idiots who compare hunting and fishing to dog fighting…are you really that stupid?? These dogs maim each other and rip parts of their body parts off for hours at a time all for the pleasure of their p*** wimp owners….many of these cowardly loser dog owners continue to beat their dogs if they lose then just throw them in the streets because the pussies get upset their dog lost…Can you be any more of a p*** and a wimp? If you really think there two are similar, then you need some serious help my friend…your just a complete idiot…and you need to worry about how you will make more then minimum wage for the rest of your life flipping burgers.

By Steve T

May 28, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this

I would like to thank the media for helping Vick out. You guys have been attacking him so much that the people on the Jury may feel sorry for him. In VA, they are reporting both sides of the story.

We have a CI that “link Vick” to dog fighting. Yet it becoming clear that this guy may have nver seen Mike Vick in person.

By Joe

May 28, 2007 11:12 PM | Link to this

I saw Elvis and 2-pac at a dog fight just yesterday can I go on ESPN and tell everyone about it? PLEASE

By Jock Ewing

May 28, 2007 11:13 PM | Link to this

Vick and Blank have already tried to pay off that idiot prosecutor Poindexter and everybody with a brain knows it.

These guys are amatuers. They pay off on the water bottle was baby crap. This has already back fired and old #7 is circling the drain right now.

If Blank dont unclog this toilet, he is going to go down with his kids friend, Michael No Brains Vick!!

By uga thug

May 28, 2007 11:16 PM | Link to this

Idiot you are a idiot they are all liveing being I bet You are a UGA fan . It shows you are a redneck class less thug animal killer!

By Leon

May 28, 2007 11:18 PM | Link to this

Just because Michael Vick is black, the man is trying to keep him down. The white racists in Atlanta don’t want to see a black man succeed and that’s the only reason for all this hoopla about some dogs fighting, which is not the big of a deal, since white people kill animals all the time in hunting. Lay off the brother and let him do what he wants in his free time.

By Vick haters suck

May 28, 2007 11:22 PM | Link to this

Racist writers (Jeff Shultz) and Racist Fans (Vick Haters).

By j

May 28, 2007 11:22 PM | Link to this

I’ve got an idea…how about we drop the story until some evidence comes up. If the evidence proves Vick is at fault we will open up the floor. If it gets exposed that he was not at fault maybe we could…I don’t know talk about football. Unfortunately I moved to Raleigh and this sorry newspaper is the only way I can get info on the Falcons, but for the last 6 months the only info I have gotten on my beloved Falcons. Is biased reporting, and a blog that consists of rednecks taking time off from drinking some beer, to say something racist or ignorant. SERIOUSLY is there anything else going on with the Falcons. How is Finneran? Is Horn ready to lead our receiving core. Is our Secondary working on not talking smack and not being beat deep? These are FOOTBALL QUESTIONS for a FOOTBALL BLOG. THESE RACIST BLOGS NEED TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!

By keep it real

May 28, 2007 11:27 PM | Link to this

Jeff why must the NFL act? because you say so. you do your job and let the NFL do there job paper BOY! you need a job in Houston Texas with your #8. you MUST GO!

By Matthew at the SLC

May 28, 2007 11:33 PM | Link to this

Yes, that is exactly it! “The Man” is trying to keep Vick down!

“The Man” secretly placed 60 fighting pit bulls on Vick’s property and staged this elaborate dog fighting scheme to bring down Vick!

“The Man” must be very clever to devise such a plan. I guess he was getting bored with keeping all the other low lifes in Atlanta from bettering themselves.

I guess “The Man” will have to go back to finding other people to disciminate againts like the poor average black person who just can’t catch a break in life.

Maybe “The Man” will reinstate Jim Crow laws and all the blacks will have to sit in the upper corners of the dome and enter and leave through a special concourse.

By boots

May 28, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this

Vick is not going anywhere. He’s made such a mess of himself, even Oakland wouldn’t want to get involved with him.

So, if Vick can stay out of jail, we just have to contend with this maladjusted QB and organization.

Or, on the other hand, we can withhold our support and hope to see changes within the organization that emphasizes the character part of Blank’s credo.

Or, we can just enjoy college football. I really enjoy it more anyway. Adios.

By Steve T

May 28, 2007 11:38 PM | Link to this

Najeh Davenpoop, CI are paid and can been made to say anything. I never trust CI no matter what. If you weight what he is saying with the other evidence things do not add up.

I have one question. We all know that Vick may have purchased a dog around 2000. What we don’t know is how old was that dog. Could it have been a puppy? But this guy said that he fought a dog own by Vick. Yet he can not said Vick had a dog because Vick did not bring the dog to ring.

He stated that Vick he has never seen Vick in person. Does it make sense that if Vick was going to these fights and a CI was there that he does have a wire or hidden camera. My thing is you can buy a cap with a hidden camera.

Finally, we know about CI or we should know. We found out that the atlanta PD had a CI. We found out that they paid him to lie. We found out they had lie and put people in jail. My take is let us look at all the evidence. The worst witness is a person. But if you had a camera it can not lie. We had the fed with all this tech and they can not get a picture of people at a dog fight.

The eveidence that I see in Vick favor is his cousin selling drugs. Why take a chance when a dog fight could generate 1 million?

Why would he keep papers on a dog he purchase from a breeder if the dog was used for fighting?

Since Vick had so much money in 2000, how did he get it? Should VT explain this to the NCAA?

The strike I see against this guys is he is turning in the big fish, yet he loves dog fighting. Why? It doesn’t make sense.

I will leave you with a thought.

You have two eyes, two ears and one mouth. You know what that tell you, believe half of what you see and hear.

By Gary /Saints fan

May 28, 2007 11:38 PM | Link to this

I hope Vick stays the Falcons qb forever, because he’s a loser. And judging by many of the comments I’ve read here so are a majority of Falcon fans. In other words you deserve each other. Here’s hoping for many more mediocre seasons ahead for Vick and you loser apologist Falcon fans. lol

By alarming

May 28, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this

the social disconnect between those who get it and those who make excuses is alarming!

By Matthew At The SLC

May 28, 2007 11:42 PM | Link to this

Nice to see my Idiot Racist Redneck Stalker has decided to pitch in his two ignorant cents to the fray.

By emack06

May 28, 2007 11:47 PM | Link to this

Wow..a lot of people here are quick to call Vick all kinds of names (SCUM, thugh, etc.) It just shows how racist some people are and hate the fact that Atlanta has a black QB…Oh and Scott, you really showed your ignorance. Vick is one man and by no means reflect the whole African-American population. In my book, a man is innocent until proven Guilty. I know most of you could give a crap about those dogs…you just see this as a opportunity to berate MV. (the jealously runs deep…) I am not a support of dogfighting but I could care less. If it is considered animal abuse then a whole lot of other things needs to be added to the list. I wonder, those who clam to be dog sympathist, would they reach in their pockets to give a quarter to a homeless man while walking down peachtree?

By keep it real

May 28, 2007 11:51 PM | Link to this

Saint you have one fluke year now you are crowing you defeatist are clueless . Vick and the Atlanta Falcons will have the aint number Watch!. Thank loser we have won more that you have voodo saint loser back to normal saint 7-9!

By Steve T

May 29, 2007 12:00 AM | Link to this

Folks this is from a person that train dogs. People brace yourself! Vick may have never been in the dog fighting.

I will say this…and all of these are truths.

I spent ten years in the dog business.

I have held professional licences in 6 states as a trainer.

I have had as many as 120 dogs in my direct care at one time.

I have bought vaccines, meds, wormers, steroids, hormones and vitamins all administered by syringe.

I had a stand (could be used for holding a ###### in position for breeding) that I used for grooming and going over the dogs for various injuries. There was blood spots on the stand from toe nails being clipped, dogs who had hurt or ripped their pads and even once from my own bloody nose.

I had carpets that the dogs laid down on at times. There was blood on the carpets at times. The blood came from toe nails that may have been clipped a little too short, ###### that came into season and sometimes from ears that were bitten by another dog.

I did not have a pry bar but I never raised or worked with any dogs that could “lock” their jaws in a fight. If I did have any dogs that could “lock”their jaws, you can rest assured I would have probably had a few of these bars laying around so that they would be readilly available should the need for one arise.

I had a treadmill for working the dogs. (actually two of them)

I had a whirlpool for hot and cold therapy on the dogs.

I have had dogs with scars. Scars come from a healed injury…..any injury could leave a scar. I have scars. I have never been in a fight with a dog.

I have never, I repeat never been involved in any way, shape or form with dog fighting……either professionally or as a hobby.

It is my understanding that any dog who is to be fought in a pit or ring, usually has their ears clipped as closely to the head as possible to avoid getting them ripped or torn off in the fight. (One less thing for the opposing dog to be able to bite off and I speak from experience when I say a dog who has had his ear bitten bleeds ALOT). The dog that is being shown in the pictures who is supposedly so “terribly” scarred from being fought still has both ears and they have not been clipped in the traditional way for a “fighting Pit” To say that those scars came from a Pit Fight is a stretch at best. The scars on that dog (and I believe if there were any other dogs who were scarred worse …. we would have all seen them by now) could have come from anywhere. A few examples could be 1) fighting with littermates as a puppy 2) getting face caught in a hole in a kennel fence or maybe 3) running into a strand of barbed-wire. Fact is…. It is impossible to look at that picture and say where those scars came from.

I guess thats enough Any questions ??? I will try to answer. Post some quick or this will be on page two.

By Kacey

May 29, 2007 12:07 AM | Link to this

Some of you people are absolute morons. If you equate hunting and fishing to dog fighting then you are not only a pansy, but the most ignorant pansy I’ve ever heard of. So i’ll break it down to the purest point in the argument; hunters and fishermen take part in an activity wherein the animal participant has 1) not been bred for any special purpose, 2) is not a domestic creature but wild, and 3) would actually overbreed and cause an adverse effect on the ecosystems of this country (note - I’m referring to “normal” hunting and fishing and not African Safari stuff going after rarities).

So the difference is……..starting to get a little bit of a clue people?

By Gary /Saints fan

May 29, 2007 12:08 AM | Link to this

If it came down to it I’d rather lose with Brees than win with Vick. But thankfully it wont come down to it because Brees is a real NFL quarterback that can utilize all facets of an offense effectively. Besides being a putrid human being (convictable evidence or not) Vick sucks as an NFL quarterback and no team with him standing behind center will ever sniff a Super Bowl. lol

By SkyBlue

May 29, 2007 12:13 AM | Link to this

“Anger in Atlanta”

After reading ALL of the comments before me, one thing I have noticed is the anger and hatred from both sides. It is sad to see so many people arguing over one person. So much hate and anger, where all of this engery could be used for something actually good.

I am a Falcon’s supporter as well as Vick supporter and will list points to why I am, so if you want to call me ignorant, stupid, thug, uneducated, it does not affect me one way or another. I know that I am educated person with a big heart which is hard to find these days.

My first point is, for the people who really do want to see Vick go down, im sure were the same individuals who were cheering him in NFC championship game or when he was a second string to Chandler. Everywhere in town, someone had a Vick jersey on, Black, White,etc.

For people who want to call him a thug.

Thug, by defintion, is someone who is a petty criminal which is involved in behavior that is violent.

Name one crime that Vick has been charged with? If so that is the only way you can term him as a CRIMINAL.

You can list the herpes case,but was that truly criminal?

the finger pointing. How many of you have cussed or called people names, i see the same exact thing going by the people who are accusing Vick in the comments board. Furthermore, remember that there were things being called back at him by SAINTS fan, who knows what they were? I am not saying it is right, but people make mistakes.

or the bottle, Like i have asked, what has he been CHARGED with.

There are players who HAVE been, such as Schaub. He was CONVICTED of a crime, but so many people wanted him to replace Vick, but noone ever mentions this.

Also, Vick has come out of one of the most dangerous neighborhoods,and has only positive sayings from his youth as a good person both by his HS coach as well as his College Football coach but noone ever mentions this.

I am sure that most of the people who are against Vick are the same ones who elected president Bush who used drugs and alcohol when he was younger. And not lets get into the situation of going into a war for own personal reasons.

So why cant these same people who have such a forgiveness of heart for Schuab and an elected president and not give the same for Vick even though he hasnt been charged with anything.

There is much more violent crimes that take place in the NFL that we never hear about or are one liners such as domestic abuse. Why arent people as angry and filling up the comment boxes?

Secondly, it is just silly to call everyone who supports Vick ignorant and stupid. We have a right to your opinion just as much as you do.

Thirdly, no one called Duke Lacrosse players thugs, even though one is being tried in court for another activity as well as having minor violentions and also actually HAVING a stripper party.

On another note, 680 fan, was a radio show i onced really much enjoyed, but after accusing Vick and trying to bring him down, which is all they do. They never once admit, what if they are wrong, when a man is suppose to be innocent until proven gulity. It is a show I hope loses a lot of listeners, which it already has.

In conclusion, wait until the prosecutors annouce whether or not they will even charge Vick, because we do not know what evidence there is against him. Just because an informant says he had a match with him in 2000 doesnt mean he actually did do it. We know nothing about this informant. And if he DID that was 7 years ago when he was in college. And he cannot be convicted for that IF he did it because the law on certain things cannot be tried for only a certain amount of years.

Furthermore, People change IF he did that.

Im sure thats what President Bush said about his younger days.

In Conclusion, instead of hate and anger, people should talk freely without getting called names. But this is the world we live in, and it is very dishearting to me.

By Gumby

May 29, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

Vick SHOULD be traded to the Cincinnati Bengals. Vick would fit in perfectly over there with all the criminals who are on that team. Vick can go over to Cincinnati, bark signals for the Bengals, and bark along with his dogs in his dog-fighting ring.

By Gentleman Jack

May 29, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

This debate has become way out of control. The key issue is you need a quarterback to provide leadership on and off the field and Michael Vick has failed on both counts and has become a distraction. It is not about black or white. It is time for people to quit hating on MV the person. It is also time for people to quit making excuses for MV. Dog-fighting is a felony (except of course in the good old boy state of Georgia) and I want to believe that the majority of people, white or black would not condone such activity.

By Dave

May 29, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

For the one millionth time I have to ask: why the heck is Mike Vick employed by the Atlanta Falcons as a QB? On top of the fact that he is one of the worst QBs of all time we now have this dog-fighting situation that may result in the Falcons having no QB at all because for reasons unknown the Falcons allowed the guy that should have been the starter to get away. Now they’re stuck with Ron Mexico and even he may be unavailable. What a ridiculous situation. Hey Blank, go back to Home Depot and sell the team to someone who knows the difference between a defensive back and a quarterback.

By Majestyk

May 29, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this

I wondering if ESPN or the Federal Gov’t paid the “shadowed figure”??? I’m sure ESPN did. He is an imformant. He has an angle, he’s not doing this to see justice. Let’s ALL remember that. What ever happened to McNair’s and other players DUI recently?? I guess DUI’s are less of a crime. Poor familes who lose a loved one because of drunk drivers. I guess animals are MORE important.

By GoodScout

May 29, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Boy, the Falcons better trade or purchase a good 2nd string quarterback. No way that moron Vick is getting anything less than a one-year suspension out of this.

And you Vick-lovers, man, when you have to justify animal cruelty as no big thing, you’ve pretty much shown how desperate you are to habg on to this loser.

Cut the cord.

By CS

May 29, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

I think this is sad how MV has been treated in Atlanta. Even since Matt Schab left Atlanta, people in Atlanta have been trying to hang MV. Dogfighting is a crime, but do we have proof MV committ this crime? People all over are keeping the flame burning because Virg know they do not have a case and need to close this one. People are lying and lying on this man. Atlanta could never keep a superstar because they do not know how to handle one. If this mess keeps going if I was MV I would ask for a trade. If this happens, the Falcons are done forever. How would we feel if someone said we did a crime but we did notknow what I brothers or sisters, or relatives are doing? “AM I MY BROTHERS KEEPER” IF I AM NOT AT THE HOUSE, NO I AM NOT HIS KEEPER. I have a daughter and a brothers and it is unfair to jubge others without facts. I am a fan of MV and I do hope this mess going away. MV is strong and his family is strong. He cannot help who he is and will be a great player in the NFL. I am a native of Georgia, and I never seen so many jubgemental people before in my life. Alot of it is about RACE. If MV was WHITE all of this bad press would not be going on. It is sad to make up lies and tell on others and this newspaper have took others lies and trying to rude MV career. I know MV will be on the field this year winning ballgames and winning the MVP of the league. GOD ALWAYS LET PEOPLE WHO WE LIE ON RISE TO THE TOP. MV WILL RISE ATLANTA.

By terrell barron

May 29, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

Where are all you animal lovers when all these horse races and things are going on? Those animals are abused for the pleasure of humans. A lot of them die . Look at barbaro. I dont condone dog fighting, but give me a break. If yall are so much of animal lovers, you need to treat them all the same,dont you think?

By Jim

May 29, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

I sure hope that SkyBlue feels better.

By Joe

May 29, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

I love how some people on here feel the need to lecture everyone else but yet they can’t spell simple words. You instantly negate any comments you have if your post is riddled with misspellings.

By Jim

May 29, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

I sure hope that SkyBlue feels better.

By bob

May 29, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

there are some sure enough morons in this city. All I have to say is that the same people who think Mike vick is innocent are probably the same people who still think O.J Simpson is still innocent. Wake up and smell the roses people!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Nix

May 29, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

I know this is a color issue to some, and some don’t think dogs deserve to be treated any better then a wild animal. For all those that fall in that catagorery, i think your stupid. I’m tired of hearing he’s being targeted because he’s black….i have supported mike’s sorry a* his entire career, all the almost touble he’s been in, i defended him to others, he’s bad play on the field…no problem, he was my guy. NOT ANYMORE, he’s a coward…i have 2 pit bull’s and i’m so tired of al these plastic a*, fake people treatin these dogs this way. Half the people with pit’s are nickel and dime mexican dirt weed slangers that think there makin noise on the block because they rednecked up there caprice with 24 inch rims, and feel that this dawg gives them an image of being hard….retards. Rich people fighting them….it makes no sense, mike is already getting paid for NOTHIN, so he finds another avenue to get paid for nothing….atleast if he was broke i could see why, not condone but understand why a person would particpate in this horrible THING( i don’t even know what to call it). You ever heard of BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION? Well, because of people like mike that decide to raise these dogs the way he does, there’s nothing but negitive press for pit’s, and it’s just a matter of time before these wonderfull animals will be banned. i believe when an animal attacks, the owner should be held responsable, but when someone is turning an animal into a monster, a killer, he should be dealt with severely… and if mike really wants to see a fight he should put himself in a ring….he’s no better then his punk as$ brother, the only difference between the two is the fans found out a little too late about Mr. Mexico. Sorry about my spelling, i’m at work and i’m obviously not working, but this is something that really upsets dog lovers, especially those of us that have pit’s. Be good Atlanta.

By Leroy

May 29, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Do you realy think the NFL has the guts to do anything to a multi million dollar athlete? Society generally accepts anything illegal an athlete does.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Has anyone been charged yet? NO? I’m going back to sleep.

By mike

May 29, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this

I used to live and die by the Falcons, but quit caring about the NFL about 10 years ago. Better things to do.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

It’s really sad that people don’t need facts to make up their mind about something. Still waiting for that video tape or a witness that the prosecution produces and not a muffled espn version.

“Your honor, we’d like to call ESPN to the stand”

By wildbillhiltner

May 29, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Mike be in trouble. The NFL shouldt ban him for life because dogfights is awful and they ain’t no excuse.

By Ginger

May 29, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Vick needs to go, even before this it has always been “all about me”. He is not a team player. Bring the coach back.

By Ginger

May 29, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

Vick needs to go, even before this it has always been “all about me”. He is not a team player. Bring the coach back. It’s not a racial issue, one of the dogs was white!!!!

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

Bring the coach back? Jim Mora? Hahahahahahahahaha!!~!!!!!!!!!

You’re excused.

By RAY

May 29, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

The problem facing Vick is not dependent on the outcome of Va. investigation. If charged and convicted his supporters will cry FIX. If no charges are brought non supporters will simply say Oh well celebrities and athletes buy their way out of trouble all the time. Niether will help Vick save his reputation. The only way he can do that is to convince the public he has NEVER in any way shape or form been involved in the dog fighting industry. If he can’t refute all the allegations he will always walk under this dark cloud and I wouldnt want people to look at me that way for the rest of my life for any amount of money. So come on Michael, I know you can’t comment on the Va investigation, but it is time for you to stand up and defend yourself against these other allegations.

By terrell barron

May 29, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Oh Yeah, Stuck at home, Mike said whatever MIKE VICK goes through, people will sill love him, not whatever MIKE VICK does, people will love him. Thats how s** gets started. D******* not listening and making up what they want to think

By gene

May 29, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

I think Terrence Moore is correct. Much like the Kobe Bryant and Duke lacrosse cases, it’s time for the local Virginia police and prosecuters (Gomer, Goober, Barney, etc) to AT LEAST get the state involved. Hopefully, the novelty of seeing themselves in the national media spotlight is wearing off. We’ve just been given our obligatory ‘confidential informant’ (translation: a criminal with his ba*ls in the wringer). What’s next; do the Balco-whistle-blowers need a little more time to get their book written? Can we maybe have a source of evidence that’s not tied to someone getting their own a* out of a sling, or making a news deadline, or looking to get promoted or re-elected?

But hey, at least I’ll bet this group of “Mayberry’s Finest” hasn’t printed up any ‘Lynch-MV’ shirts (unlike their Colorado colleagues).

By SMAD

May 29, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Things that make you go hum? Someone please tell me how “Vick” and “great athlete” end up in the same sentence? To be classified as a sport I would think competition would need to be involved. Therefore, wouldn’t hunting be considered a recreational activity and not a sport? We can’t keep morality in our schools, but we expect it to exist in the NFL?

By CS

May 29, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

ATLANTA IS FULL OF RACIALS WHITE BOYS… HATING ON A RICH BLACK BOY. WELL GO OUT AND LEARN A SPORT BECAUSE BLACKS WILL NEVER CLEAN YOUR HOMES, WATCH YOUR CHILDREN, BE HANG BY A ROPE, AND BLACK WOMEN WILL NEVER TO RAPED AGAIN. HATING HATING HATING THAT IS GEORGIA FOR YOU………………..

By celawjr

May 29, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

I find it disheartening that in today’s society we, as Americans, still find it with in ourselves to pass blind judgment. Historically, it has been knee-jerk responses by angry, irrational, and often hateful people and organizations that have led to firings, wrongful convictions, and even death. I am not saying who is guilty and who is not, but I do know that in the media’s court,the idea of guilt has been satisfied with mere accusations. In criminal court you need proof BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Some of you may not want to hear this but its true, we all rush to judgment on sensational issues and we are sometimes proven wrong. This reminds me of an old-fashioned lynching of a slave, and its not because Michael Vick is an African American (solely) but because of the blood-in the water feeding frenzy that has taken place and the fact that his life is controlled by the watchful eye of public opinion. If you will allow me I can show you each player’s role. Roger Goodell is the plantation owner, but he just works them he is not really calling the shots. The team “owners” they are the overseer’s, they have to check everyone when they are told by the plantation owner. But that’s never how the lynching takes place, why? because the plantation only runs smoothly when everyone can work, if you take one away you can’t get as much work done. Have you ever heard the story of Emmit Till, or Mack Charles Parker, or Rosewood, or Black Wall Street…well that’s when the lynching takes place. The lynching is caused by an accusation, be it true or false, and that accusation festering like a sore, spreading like wildfire, and outraging the townsfolk. The media is the outraged townspeople, the woman crying rape, and ultimately the lynchmob. They are the one’s that are telling Goodell you better whoop your boy, and Goodell may just be spineless enough to oblige. Do I know if Mike Vick did anything? No (but I he has not been accused of anything and I hope that he did not) and people have been wrong about him before (see water bottle). Do I believe the words of a man that has made a career out of snitching and is now saying people are worried about Vick snitching (well what does that guy have to gain from talking to espn and hell shouldn’t people be worried about him snitching?) I know that right now this seems to be leading toward the lynching of mike vick (not literally) but in effigy by killing his career. Its o.k. to not like him because he went 7-9 or you got mad cause he flipped the bird, My challenge to everyone, including Jeff Schultz, Terrence Moore, and Roger Goodell, is to not make up your mind about his guilt or his innocence w/out any real evidence of wrongdoing and to not play a role in this lynch mob mentality by convicting a man who has not even been charged or accused of a crime.

• C. J.

By michael

May 29, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

people, lighten up. it is what it is. IF he is involved, he goes down like you and I would and my Dog would say the same if he could speak.

By Braves Fan 79

May 29, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

How come alot of you on here support vick just because hes black? I hear alot of BS about…”unreliable sources…and no evidence” but common your probably the same pple that thought OJ wasnt guilty…so your obviously either not the brightest crayon in the box, or trash yourself that has no moral standards.
If a white person did something stupid im not going to defend him…..youll never see me defending someone just because there the same race as me…..face it pple….every race has its share of retards and idiots…..Blacks are NO DIFFERENT!

Like i was calling for back in Decemer….we shoulda traded Vick for Calvin Johnson! Man CJ woulda looked good in a Falcons uniform. wishfull thinking now. I think our GM sucks.

By J

May 29, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

Hey Vick….How about less THUG and more QUARTERBACK.

What a total disappointment this guy turned out to be for Atlanta Fans and Blank. Vick will go down as nothing more than a bad investment.

By lb

May 29, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Dog are dogs. Who cares about dogs. Let them die. Let devote this energy towards cleaning up the community.

By lb

May 29, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Dog are dogs. Who cares about dogs. Let devote this energy towards cleaning up the community.

By lb

May 29, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

Dog are dogs. Who cares about dogs. Let devote this energy towards cleaning up the community.

By Bushwacker

May 29, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

to all you VICK lovers: “He is not so blind as one who chooses not to see”

By smad

May 29, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

“ATLANTA IS FULL OF RACIALS WHITE BOYS… HATING ON A RICH BLACK BOY. WELL GO OUT AND LEARN A SPORT BECAUSE BLACKS WILL NEVER CLEAN YOUR HOMES, WATCH YOUR CHILDREN, BE HANG BY A ROPE, AND BLACK WOMEN WILL NEVER TO RAPED AGAIN. HATING HATING HATING THAT IS GEORGIA FOR YOU………………..”

CS, Please tell me you aren’t a graduate of our educational system? Your words or lack thereof are an example of just plain old stupidity and do nothing more than fuel the hate you have for white people.

By celawjr

May 29, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this

Braves fan… O. J. was found not guilty… so obviously 12 people in California felt differently than you. Why do you assume that everyone that’s defending him is black, or that everyone convicting him is not? Why does a person with a differing opinion from you have to be trash? (you see when you make comments in which you objectify human beings, you discredit any intelligent comments you have made up until that point). Do you want mike vick to lose his position or do you want to get rid of him by any means necessary? Don’t be blinded by your love of atlanta sports. Did you also hope that there was something else in that water bottle? Did you hope it b/c you didn’t want him to be your teams quarterback anymore? Think about that. Football is a game, but this is a man’s livelihood.

By Underdog

May 29, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Vick is one Sick Puppy Vick is one Sick Puppy Vick is one Sick Puppy Vick is one Sick Puppy Vick is one Sick Puppy

By T

May 29, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

What happen to innocent until proven guilty? Yes, dogfighting is wrong I don’t agree with it. But these assainations of people’s characters has to stop. The reality is, unless we find another person to sell out the Georgia Dome, Vick is it. Falcon fans are still going to buy tickets to see Micheal Vick. And after reading several news publications on this incident, I sum it up as hear say. Until someone has hard proof….Let it go! There are more issues in our world to deal with than accusations and assainations without proof.

By gene

May 29, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Hey BF79, As far as the LAW was concerned, O.J. was found NOT guilty in criminal court. Wow, the rednecks are really rolling now!Too bad about the illiteracy issues. Can we git a ‘spelling-checker’ on this-here blog, Billy Bob?

By alex

May 29, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

The unfortunate thing about this whole case is that dogfighting is no doubt getting more popular by the day. People who never gave it a thought now are thinking if Vick and supposedly a bunch of other NFL players are into it then it must be pretty cool. The day this story broke dogfighting became a tenfold larger problem than it was the day before. This case has probably put an end to any involvement that Vick may have had with this bizarre practice, but gotten thousands of others involved.

It definitely sounds like Vick is into the dogfighting culture at some level. He’d have absolutely no reason not to come out and flatly refute the charges if he could do it without risking being caught in a lie. Instead, the approach by Vick and his people is pretty much the same as Barry Bonds on steroids since the publication of Game of Shadows. To what degree Vick was involved with the operation of dogfights is the real question.

The NFL is in a tight spot on this one. It seems like dogfighting cases are really difficult to bring to court even where the evidence is much more substantial than in this one. The likelihood of a conviction seems remote. Even if he was heavily involved, Vick would have a legion of lawyers and experts that would probably get the charges dropped on technicalities for one reason or another. So, there is a pretty high likelihood that Michael Vick’s name will not be appearing on an indictment. There is an even higher likelihood that he will never be convicted. Can the league suspend one of their biggest stars for something with no proof? The Pacman Jones comparison doesn’t really hold up here because there is no doubt that he has personally engaged in desultory if not illegal conduct with plenty of witnesses on multiple occasions. On the other hand can the NFL afford not to punish Vick preemptively?

My guess is that the fans are going to punish Vick plenty and the guy who he gave the bird to will seem really pleasant by comparison. This should be the biggest show of fan grievance since John Rocker (also a poor representative of our fair city sadly enough).

By theman

May 29, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

It’s SAD that we live in a society where more emphasis is put on two freaking animals mauling and tearing themselves to pieces rather than two humans doing the same. Can we say Ultimate Fighting Competition,IBF,WBC and there are more. You freaking Americans are a group of confused and sick minded people. No wonder George Bush and Bin Laden were able to partner up and send this country into a tail spin that’s lasted 5-6 years now. AMERICA PLEASE CHECK YOURSELVES DON’T ALL OF YOU PROVE TO BE A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITS!!!!!

By Mike

May 29, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

No matter what Michael Vick does (or continues to do) it will never be his fault. It’s the coaches, fault, the players, fault, the fans, his friends’ fault, his family’s fault… Pardon me if I left anyone out (the list continues to grow daily). People keep using ‘innocent until proven guilty’ as an excuse. That’s true in a court of law but in the court of public opinion, the burden of proof is much less. Lawyers may using trickery to exonerate the guilty, but the public isn’t so easily fooled. Everywhere this guy goes, there’s trouble. There have been many good black quarterbacks - Donovan McNabb, Vince Young, James Harris, Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham, and Doug Williams - but none have constntly been involved in as many ‘activities’ as Vick. I admire black peoples’ defense of their own, but there comes a time when maybe they will realize this guy is a low-life and start backing stand-up, good-guy, black athletes. There are a lot of them that are great athletes, great teammates, and excellent role models. These are the guys blacks and whites should support, not someone like Vick. I simply don’t see how Vick can control an offense when he’s incapable of controlling himself.

By andrewlike

May 29, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

FOr gods sake… please focus on the bigger animal rights issues… the humane society should not be able to run a investigation in the press… it is dispicable… there is hunting that goes on in the world where people are killing perfectly innocent animals in their home environment… tell me that is not a bigger issue then the MICHAEL VICK CASE.. espescially since there isn’t even evidence yet… ESPN should be ashamed for putting this person on tv that has absolutely 0 credibility… ASHAMED

By Bushwacker

May 29, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

When the reporter asked Vick if he would be exonerated all Vick could say we no comment because he does not know what exonerated means, what an idiot, like I siad he is too dumb to play QB in this league?

By Bushwacker

May 29, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

who cares about LB, let him die, clean up the community

By Donna Shortridge

May 29, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Thank you for keeping the focus on this story. This is disgusting and embarrassing to Atlanta. Vick should be dumped by the Falcons and the NFL now.I pray that he ends up getting arrested, charged and convicted for this. Only the lowest slime of society would think this a legitimate sport.

By Rapid ROY

May 29, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Can’t we get a new QB? Someone like McNabb or Manning? Vick is no hero, just a fast athelete. Get rid if him, I am sure Oakland would like him!

By dawg_gone_truth

May 29, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Well here we go again, another day, another story about Mike Vick and dogfighting, anyone who thinks he is not involved is an idiot. He is involved, but he has not been charged and if I am not mistaken in this country you are innocent until proven guilty. I do believe he is involved and should be punished if proven guilty but some of you want to crucify him on this because his play on the field has been not up to what we would expect of a superstar. I don’t agree with all these racist folks on here, of both skin colors that adamantly accuse him or defend him. I don’t endorse dogfighting, but should it be a felony crime? In the UFC men train two men to beat one another til the other man cannot take it anymore, that should be felony too if dogfighting is. I don’t want Mike Vick to be the quarterback of my favorite team because he is not the savior that I thought he was for this team, and never will be but I don’t want him to be ran thru the ringer for something like this, if it were not vick on the PETA nuts would be the only ones howling.

By Alex

May 29, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

In response to emack06 saying that jealousy of Michael Vick runs deep, I have this to say: I am not jealous of a man that mails stolen goods to his family members in Virginia from a Mailboxes etc. where i was once employed. I am not jealous of a grown man that cannot read (I found this out when he was asked to fill out a shipping form for the 15 pairs security ink-stained jeans, and he could only write his name). I am not jealous of a man that flicks off his own “fans”. I am not jealous of a man that fefers to himself in the third person. I am not jealous of a quarterback that has failed to use his immense amount of athletic talent to bring the Falcons franchise out of mediocrity. Even with the dog fighting allegations thrown out, I still cannot understand why so many individuals have placed Michael Vick on this pedestal of greatness. Sure, he is a talented athlete, but besides that, what do the uncompromising fans of Michael Vick see in him? This is not a criticism of those that support Michael Vick, nor is it support of those that are spewing words of hatred towards him. I would just like to know why the dedicated supporters are going to such great lengths to defend this man’s name.

By Not bright

May 29, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

I am not sure who has the more ignorant post: #7 or 911?

There should be an IQ standard in order to participate in this blog.

More people are attacked or killed by dogs everyday in America…

Who knew?

By John

May 29, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Funny isn’t it?……If Michael Vick were white, then he would have been busted by the NFL for the “marijuana” smelling water bottle. If Michael Vick were white, then he would be resoundingly condemned by all the media and especially the black media.

But Michael Vick is black. And today, you cannot say anything bad about a black athlete. To do so is nothing short of racism.

…someone asked “what about people who hunt?…. It really speaks to the very evident fact that dog fighting and c** fighting ABSOLUTELY DO attrack nothing but trash. It’s only trash who would enjoy watching dogs kill each other - dogs who under normal circumstances (not bred to fight and antagonized to do so) might not fight at all.

Michael Vick needs to go! And so do any others (white or black) who promote or breed dogs for or run dog fighting.

By T

May 29, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Mr. Bushwacker, Micheal Vick too dumb to play in the NFL….Unfortunately for you…apparently he has 100 million reason to play in the NFL. From a business prospective Vick sells tickets, before Atlanta heard of Micheal Vick, Atlanta couldn’t sellout the Georgia Dome or the Fulton County Stadium…real NFL fans love crowd pleasers regardless of color and that’s what Vick is a crowd pleaser…We can condemn a person so quickly, but everyone is responsible for their own actions…and Mr. Bushwacker, I’m pretty sure you’re not totally innocent.

By Its Me

May 29, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Well after you stated, “Dogfighting is generally run and supported by the lowest common denominator of society” I stopped reading this article. Schultz from what I can remember, the rich aristocrats somewhere in Europe started dogfighting. And also hunting!! Lol, this entire investigation is bologna and full of speculation. What about Sylvester Stallones’ illegal steroid importation ‘fine’? And all of those lovely doctors that own meth labs? And to say that dogfighting is worse than drugs is the dumbest crap I’ve ever heard. Drugs affect people on a global scale. Comparing drugs to dogfighting is like dominoes to jelly beans. Schultz, you should speak your true problem with Vick. You want him out because you lost alot of money betting on the Falcons..Lol

By Antony

May 29, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

CS - From every post you’ve made you demonstrate that you have neither the education nor the intelligence to weigh in on this topic. Your posts are either indicative of your poor education or you are writing in Ebonics.

What has Michael Vick done for you lately? Are you on his payroll? Or is it that all us black folks are supposed to stand by each other regardless of character or crime?

Rather than raise up a brother who has so very many flaws to his character why do you not raise up someone like Condi Rice? Maya Angelou? Colin Powell? Or is it that black folks should only attempt to emulate thugs, hoods, criminals and dog killers?

By cj

May 29, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

OJ is the man. Go juice go

By Season Ticket Holder

May 29, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

In your article you mentioned “Rape”, such as the incident which occurred at Patrick Kerny’s house in Buckhead while he was in the residence.

Please explain why this story has not taken presidence over Vick and dog fighting allegations?

Clearly it’s content as you state is more important. It’s “Rape”, Patrick was at the house during the incident, and most people will agree it is a deplorable act.

This lead me to believe that not only race but also salary are playing a big role in Vick’s public conviction.

By Eric

May 29, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

How exactly is dogfighting animal abuse? Both dogs obviously want to fight. They would do so in the wild. Where is the immorality in letting animals do their thing? That’s gotta be the sorriest excuse for a felony I ever heard of….

By JudasIscariat

May 29, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

Dog Fighting and C* Fighting are generally run and supporting by the lowest dregs of society and the **bottom feeders of this world. After hearing about the key witness informant on ESPN this weekend who can place Vick at a dog-fight betting on HIS dog no less, I think the NFL should suspend Vick for at least two years until he can flush this henious activity out of his system. With Joey Harrington at the helm in Vicks absence, the Falcons quarterbacking duties are in more than capable hands. If Vick is convicted of dog-fighting he SHOULD and WILL be jailed in addition to any NFL suspension.

By Sal Licata

May 29, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

There are two ways to look at this. Falcons fan point of view and a non football point of view. If you take the football out of this it is a sick thing to see dogs fighting. I am a Falcons fan and I want to see Vick win games for them PERIOD. I dont care what he does off the field. Almost all these athelets we root for are bad people. Unfortunately Vick is now known to be one of them.

By Tony

May 29, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Whether Vick is involved or not, for someone like Clinton Portis to say that dog fighting is a non story is repulsive. Its animal cruelty, and animal cruelty is often the first step to worse crimes. (check out the childhoods of many serial killers). Lets start down the road of dog fighting, and then well if we say dog fighting is okay, well lets pay homeless people to fight and video tape it. And if that’s okay, well lets make gang fights legal. Heck if if its okay to pay people to choose to fight and its okay to force dogs to fight, heck we might as well force people to fight like Roman Gladiators and not pay them. Only just grant me one thing, please lets make the people who are stimulated by such things as dog fighting be the first gladiators. Then at least for a brief moment they might be able to feel the fear a poor frightened animal feels as it is forced to fight for its very life. Maybe then they won’t have to run to a dictionary the next time someone asks them the meaning of the words “cruelty” and “compassion”.

By Chris

May 29, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

How many of you dolts now wish we had Matt Schaub back?! Mark my words: Schaub will be an all-pro in a couple of years…Hey, this scenario sounds familiar…oh yeah! We let Brett Farve go too! That turned out great! Suspend Vick for the year…Id rather have Joey.

By WHAT!

May 29, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

The extent to which a MV supporter will go in order to justify their support is absolutly mind numbing. 1st, compairing the UFC with dog fighting is moronic. Dogs are not humans. Just in case you didn’t realize that minor difference between the two. No of the UFC fighters are forced to fight. Every single one of them choose to do so under their own discressions. Dogs, to the contrary, are forced to do it weather they want to or not. Second, hunting is protected by our bill of rights. Participating in dog fighting, and gambling are illeagal in all 48 states. Just in case you overlooked that minor difference. Third, weather or not Richard Jewell, the Duke Lacross team, or O.J. did it or not should have no bearing upon what MV has done or not done. In addtion, the first sign of weather someone has done something wrong or not is the knee jerk reation of shifting blame. Just like my 5 year old when I catch her doing something she shouldn’t be… LOL, she says, “well, my lil sister did that or this yesterday. Isn’t she going to get into troble to?” It, like most MV appologist make no sense.

In fact, if I recall correctly, when the Miami police dropped it’s case against MV some people started saying that they were baought or paid off by either Blank or Vick or maybe even both and all the MV appologist said then that it was lake of evidence and that was that. Now that a witness has stepped forward the MV appologist are saying he was paid off. Uncanny how MV appologist want it both ways.

By Season Ticket Holder

May 29, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

In your article you mentioned “Rape”, such as the incident which occurred at Patrick Kerny’s house in Buckhead while he was in the residence.

Please explain why this story has not taken presidence over Vick and dog fighting allegations?

Clearly it’s content as you state is more important. It’s “Rape”, Patrick was at the house during the incident, and most people will agree it is a deplorable act.

This lead me to believe that not only race but also salary are playing a big role in Vick’s public conviction.

By Season Ticket Holder

May 29, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

In your article you mentioned “Rape”, such as the incident which occurred at Patrick Kerny’s house in Buckhead while he was in the residence.

Please explain why this story has not taken presidence over Vick and dog fighting allegations?

Clearly it’s content as you state is more important. It’s “Rape”, Patrick was at the house during the incident, and most people will agree it is a deplorable act.

This lead me to believe that not only race but also salary are playing a big role in Vick’s public conviction.

By Earl Spinsky

May 29, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Let the story die? Are you kidding! This story should be page one until the NFL banishes Vick for life! What a degenerate and a truly horrible example of a sick human being.

By J

May 29, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

I’m really getting tired of the black folks on this blog complaining that Vick is being unjustly tried in the court of public opinion.

What about the lacrosse players from Duke?

There were a group of white boys - average kids who were tried in the court of public opinion, aided and abetted by the district attorney via the outrageous lies of a repeat criminal black woman.

The NAACP and every other black group out there called for those boys’ heads on pikes. They were certain they raped her even though her own friend (a black woman) said she was lying.

Once it was found out it was all lies, did the black press and the NAACP come back and apologize for all the evil things they’d said?

Heck no!

By NASDAQ

May 29, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Here is the bottom line you idiots. There is not evidence that Vick participated in dog fighting. The procecutor has stated that they are at a stand still because there is nothing linkin him to it. The only thing you have to go on is a “so called” witness that is a criminal himself, and we all know that he isn’t going to mean anything in a court of law. ALSO, I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS IN THE NFL RIGHT NOW, WHO ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE COMMISH TO HAND DOWN A SUSPENSION WITHOUT A CONVICTION ON VICK. THEY ARE READY TO STRIKE THE MOMENT IT HAPPENS IN PROTEST TO THE NEW COMMISH’S DICTATORSHIP. This is going to be very ugly, mark my words!

By blah, blah, blah

May 29, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Dogfighting is not only awful, it is a felony in most states, including this one. Vick needs to be held up as an example to others, if he is proven guilty. A message needs to be sent to celebrities that illegal conduct (any illegal conduct) begets punishment, including dismissal. Just because they are celebs shouldn’t mean they are exempt from the same laws the rest of us have to abide by. If we stop paying them and their agents (tickets, CD’s, teeshirts, etc.) they will eventually get the message. It has to hit them square in the face with a sentence, punishment, a fine and mainly a loss of money!!!

By elizabeth

May 29, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

First and most importantly to the MORON who wrote about Patrick Kerney get your facts straight. He always denied the allegations and the police cleared him of ANY wrong doing. In fact the alleged rape victim publicly thanked Kerney for being one of the first ones to help her out when he found out something was wrong.So get your f*** facts straight you moron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!As for the rest of you idiots who think the Moron Vick is innocent yall must also be the ones who still think O J Simpson is innocent. Get a clue and stop trying to turn this into a race issue.

By EASY ED

May 29, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

VICK AND EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH DOG FIGHTING ARE “PIGS” AND THE LOWEST FORM OF HUMAN BEINGS. WHAT JOY IS THERE IN SEEING A ANIMAL DIE? “SPORT” ?? THE ONLY REASON IS SICKNESS!!!! I HOPE HE IS EXPELLED FROM THE NFL FOR EVER… PERSONALLY I WILL NEVER WATCH HIM RUN ANOTHER PLAY.

By NASDAQ

May 29, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Here is the bottom line you idiots. There is not evidence that Vick participated in dog fighting. The procecutor has stated that they are at a stand still because there is nothing linkin him to it. The only thing you have to go on is a “so called” witness that is a criminal himself, and we all know that he isn’t going to mean anything in a court of law. ALSO, I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS IN THE NFL RIGHT NOW, WHO ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE COMMISH TO HAND DOWN A SUSPENSION WITHOUT A CONVICTION ON VICK. THEY ARE READY TO STRIKE THE MOMENT IT HAPPENS IN PROTEST TO THE NEW COMMISH’S DICTATORSHIP. This is going to be very ugly, mark my words!

By NASDAQ

May 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Here is the bottom line you idiots. There is not evidence that Vick participated in dog fighting. The procecutor has stated that they are at a stand still because there is nothing linkin him to it. The only thing you have to go on is a “so called” witness that is a criminal himself, and we all know that he isn’t going to mean anything in a court of law. ALSO, I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS IN THE NFL RIGHT NOW, WHO ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE COMMISH TO HAND DOWN A SUSPENSION WITHOUT A CONVICTION ON VICK. THEY ARE READY TO STRIKE THE MOMENT IT HAPPENS IN PROTEST TO THE NEW COMMISH’S DICTATORSHIP. This is going to be very ugly, mark my words!

By NASDAQ

May 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Here is the bottom line you idiots. There is not evidence that Vick participated in dog fighting. The procecutor has stated that they are at a stand still because there is nothing linkin him to it. The only thing you have to go on is a “so called” witness that is a criminal himself, and we all know that he isn’t going to mean anything in a court of law. ALSO, I HAVE SEVERAL FRIENDS IN THE NFL RIGHT NOW, WHO ARE JUST WAITING FOR THE COMMISH TO HAND DOWN A SUSPENSION WITHOUT A CONVICTION ON VICK. THEY ARE READY TO STRIKE THE MOMENT IT HAPPENS IN PROTEST TO THE NEW COMMISH’S DICTATORSHIP. This is going to be very ugly, mark my words!

By Chris

May 29, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Here’s a response to Erics incredibly dumbass comments: Uh, first off, yeah dogs do fight in the wild, but theyre not BOXED IN a tiny compartment…in the wild, if the alpha dog wins the subordinate can flee! Theres a choice there!! Second, these dogs are trained to fight and kill, and the last time I checked dogs were domesticated and not prone to these high levels of aggression. Besides, why would members of the same species kill one another on purpose…it wont perpetuate the species!

By Mike

May 29, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Eric you’re defending dog fighting? On second thought… I know, it’s a black thing and I wouldn’t understand.

By sm120

May 29, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

We need to keep this story in the news, until there is a resolution. Keep dogfighters’ sick and twisted view of animals at the forefront showing the mainstream what they do, how prevalent it is in society, and watch the general public decide. All who own pitbulls in counties across America where they are banned, this is the reason why, you should be rejoicing as cracking down on dogfighting will allow the pitbull stigma to eventually be lifted. I’m sure half the postings here are truly ‘for’ dogfighting while many are just on the Mike Vick bandwagon at all costs. If you want the law changed, lobby your congress persons, until then, congress and society has defined dogfighting as being cruel and illegal, and all those involved should be investigated to the fullest extent….including Michael Vick.

By Marty

May 29, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

The Vick defenders make me laugh! Is it not blatently obvious something illegal was going on at Vick’s home? If you have 1/2 a brain which I’m starting to wonder about all these Vick defenders how can you not know that dog fighting was going on there.

The people who are involved with dog fighting are the biggest low lifes of society. Its obvious to me that Vick falls in that category.

The DA Poindexter, how did he become a DA? It seems to me that he’s trying his hardest to cover this whole thing up. What a waste of tax payers money!

By NASDAQ

May 29, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Please forgive the misspelled words in my previous comments. What can I say, this firm doesn’t pay me $70K a year to spell LOL. Go Birds Go!

By Tim

May 29, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Like it or not, this story will have legs and Vick will be suspended for most of the year if foud guilty. It is what it is.

Vick has made our grave and now the Falcon Fans have to live with it. The rebuilding continues…..

By Edward R. Murrow

May 29, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

BREAKING NEWS: Michael Vick defenders often make inarticulate, difficult-to-read, misspelled and poorly written defenses of Mr. Vick, a person many of them have never even met. However, the public is asked to please avoid responding to these statements, even if one feels they can translate those thoughts, as this may lead to cries of “hate” or “racism.”

( How grammar critique can make one a “racist” is beyond the comprehension and understanding of this reporter. )

ALL Atlantans are encouraged to avoid the topic of “Michael Vick” if at all possible. This is necessary to prevent any unnecessary attacks, false & baseless accusations and name calling by those loyal to Mr. Vick.

We will have further updates as they become available.

By midnite

May 29, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Dog fighting and legal hunting should never be compared to one another. Hunting is LEGAL folks. Pit Bulls are domesticated animals and are not unlike the people who love and care for them when it comes to having personalities and showing emotions. An animal can be nurtured with love just like a child. On the other hand an animal or human can be nurtured with violence. Nurtured with love and discipline, a creature such as a household pet will usually respond with love. If nurtured undisciplined and with violence a creature will likely be violent. Shame on these immoral misfits that turn these dogs into monsters to further their barbaric desires or to line their pockets with ill gotten gains. But c’mon y’all be real and let’s compare apples to apples, pets and wild game are two different animals, literally!

By mcdawg

May 29, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Trade Vick to Cincy for Odell Thurman-WHO LETS THE DAWGS OUT

BOW WOW WOW WHOA YO YIPPIE YEAH

By Born at Night, but.....

May 29, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

NASDAQ, who do you think you are kidding besides yourself? You think NFL players are going to give away millions for overrated and talentless Mike Vick? It will be just the opposite! They will distance themselves so fast from Mike Vick that it will make the loose screw in your head spin. But you and the rest of Mike’s entourage keep dreaming and writing ridiculous messages.

By Chris

May 29, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

It seems to me that with the exception of the Braves, the Hawks, Thrashers and Falcons are in a perpetual state of ‘rebuilding’…We need to clean house with these franchises, get the thugs OUT and it starts with Vick getting the BOOT!

By Aaron

May 29, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

Dogfighting, marijuana, flipping off his home fans…. Let’s face it, Ron Mexico isn’t a good person. How anyone can still offer support to him is beyond me. Maybe he can rely on the example his brother sets….oh wait….maybe he shouldn’t do that.

The falcons traded the wrong QB.

By Ray

May 29, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Some of you people truly aren’t very bright. Even if you think dog fighting is ok (it’s certainly isn’t ok) your opinion in the matter is of little consequence. The fact is, dog fighting is a felony. And for those of you saying there is no proof so he should be left alone, try to remember that an investigation is the process of gathering proof. If any of you are so naive as to believe that Mike Vick raises 60 pit bulls just for the fun of raising them, and not for dog fighting, then you really do need a reality check. The investigation should go on until it is logically concluded, and if and when the evidence is gathered to prove that he has been an active participant in dog fighting he should be imprisoned as a felon. This has nothing to do with me “hating Mike Vick”. He really isn’t a good enough qb for me to give a rats pitute about. But I do hate dog fighters and if he is proven to be one, he should be made an example of.

By gene

May 29, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Yo NASDAQ, Only a REAL idiot (not just all of us ‘referred to’ ones) would post the same blog more than once! It’s nice to see that illiteracy and ignorance are not the exclusive domain of any one race. This blog seems to be The Great Uniter, lol!

By fan

May 29, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

No explanation for delay in executing search warrant of Vick property

A warrant issued on May 23rd ordering a search of the dog compound behind the former home of NFL quarterback Michael Vick has yet to be executed.

The warrant states that authorities are to search for “all pitbull terrier/fighting dog carcuses(sic) which are buried on the curtilage of 1915 Moonlight Road. All outbuildings which have blood-covered wood floorsand walls; Any utincels or weapons utilized in the killing of animals to include ropes, guns/rifle, spent shotgun shells, spent bullet cartidges, or shovels and any and all evidence contributing to dog fighting and animal cruelty.”

A news release issued by the Surry County Sheriff’s Office states that the warrant “has not been executed at this time at the request of the Surry County Sheriff’s Office and the Commonwealth’s Attorney (Gerald Poindexter).

No explanation was offered as to why the delay was undertaken.

The investigation, which began in April as a search for drugs and parephenalia, has turned into one of the largest investigations into organmized dog fighting ever.

Vick continues to deny any knowledge of or involvement in dog fighting. Nevertheless, he sold the property immediately after the investigation began for less than half it’s assessed value.

By va

May 29, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

Please, everyone pull your head out of your a*. Everyday this continues, Mr Blank loses credibility as a person. If you spend money on the Falcons you are condoning this type of behaviour. Seriously, just how stupid are you?

By FRANK

May 29, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

MAN’S BEST FRIEND HAS BEEN BRED TO RIP ONE ANOTHER APART FOR THE SICK ENTERTAINMENT OF THE MACHO LOW LIFES. MR VICK IS SUCH A BOTTOM FEEDER WHO IS A CHEAP THUG BUT WHO IS VERY ATHLETIC.THE HIP HOP GENERATION THRIVES ON INTIMADATION AND BEING BAD TO THE BONE.PIT BULLS ARE THE DOG OF CHOICE,EVER SEE A BAD A* WALKING A COLLIE OR A LAB???? EVERY LOVING DOG OWNER SHOULD BOYCOT THE N.F.L. UNTIL VICK IS HISTORY

By DanCFrom NJ

May 29, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick is the biggest piece of do do of all time. I was just talking to someone last night who knew Vick from Virginia Tech and he said that all Vick used to do”was go around and talk about dog fighting” and that was almost 10 years ago!!!

I got all the info but I’m sending the info to Roger Godell so Vick gets suspended for Life!!!

By Tami

May 29, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

There’s always an outside chance that someone among Vick’s sleazy crowd could be setting him up for sort of blackmail unless he pays up. And, should that be the case, it’ll come out eventually.

However, Vick continues to be more of a liability to the Falcons than an asset. If this had been the first time some sort of controversy surrounded Vick, than it would be a different story and a different public as well as league reaction. But, it is unfortunately NOT the first time. It hurts to admit that, because we never want any “controversy” that may surround our hometown teams to be true. But, this one hurts in all areas. It may likely be more to the Falcons’ advantage to cut the ties that bind as soon as possible. Either way, Vick will lose some measurable, important time in a suspension of some sort and length. As it has already been said, the NFL has to do something here. Dogfighting, and by extension promoting the harm to any innocent animal, is an absolute atrocity. No one should get away with this no matter who they are.

By Bailey

May 29, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

I don’t care if Vick is guilty of this or not. He needs to go. I don’t know any reasonable football fan who wants their QB to be the dumbest person on the field. I mean, come on…dog fighting (alledgedly), arguing with airport security (with or without dope), giving the bird to the home fans, all of this is a patern of behavior. If any other QB in the league was in his 7th year, had back to back 8-8 and 7-9 seasons, and then did all of the questionale things Vick has done, HE’D BE GONE!! I am not worried though. He will be gone as soon as Goodell has had enough. The NFL is now embarrassed. Vick will be suspended. He does not have to be convicted of anything. A pattern of behavior and involvement is enough.

By JC Smalls

May 29, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

NASDAQ Thanks for the inside information. If all these idiots strike over Mike Vick Roger Godell has won…Why?…Becuase the only players that would be dumb enough to strike would be the same thug idiots that he is trying to clean up. I will sit every Sunday and watch Manning, Tomlinson, Alexander, Brady, Dunn, and all the other normal human beings play with class and respect. As for Hunting/Fishing being compared to dog fighting….come on people….When you catch a fish that you are not going to eat…you usually throw it back. People don’t kill Deer for fun….it is for Sport and Food. Vick apologist are the most comical people on the planet. Same Dumb A*******es that think Bush blew up the levies and The World Trade Center….Come on Folks…call me a racist!!!!

By Kman

May 29, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

If Vick is innocent of these charges, why can’t he just come out and say I am totally innocent and have nothing to do with these allogations? If I were accused of something I didn’t do, no matter what my lawyer said, I would openly declare my innocence. Nothing of the sort from Vick. Also, I’m not a hunter, but hunting is FAR different than two dogs fighting to the death. Hunting is used to control over population with the species; dogs tearing each other too shreds is just done for a lowlifes pleasure- white, black, it doesn’t matter.

By LL

May 29, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

It’s so refreshing to see the media and prosecutors going after someone else. It’s a welcome change see them targeting someone else apart from those “privileged, rich, white boys” from my alma mater. I’m waiting for the protests organized by Jackson and Sharpton - the prosecutor running his mouth on CNN declaring him to be a ‘hooligan’. Yes - the charges were dropped. But, how do you give a year back to a young man? “41 brothers on the field”

By LS

May 29, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

The NFL is a business. The Falcons organization is a business. Most organization have a “Code of Ethics” statment that place the responsibility of avoiding immoral or illegal situations or even the appearance of involvement squarely on the shoulders of the employee. Michael Vick is an employee of the Falcons. Granted, he is a talented athlete, however it is his (and his alone) responsibility to avoid such situations or the appearance of involvement in such situations. If he continues to find himself implicated in various unsavory situations, perhaps he should question the company he keeps, the establishments he frequents and the manner in which he carries himself.

By fan

May 29, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

13News has learned that federal investigators are looking for remains of pit bull dogs on the Surry County property that used to be owned by Michael Vick.

According to the search warrant, an informant told authorities that seven dogs were destroyed and buried on the property in late April.

An informant also described another time when up to 30 pit bulls were buried.

The search warrant calls for a search of property behind the main house on Moonlight Drive, not the house itself.

Watch the report According to the warrant, the U.S. Department of Agriculture Inspector General requested approval to go into a building on the backside of the property to pull up floor boards and wall boards looking for signs of blood.

The USDA also wanted to search for items that may have been used to bury animal bodies.

Police raided the rural home on April 25 during a drug investigation. 66 dogs, 55 of them pit bulls, and equipment that could be associated with dog fighting, were removed from the property.

Vick has said he let his cousin, Davon Boddie, live there and that he didn’t know a large kennel on the property could be involved in criminal activity.

By MotherTeresa

May 29, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Goddell is a real godsend for a commissioner. I feel strongly that Goddell will suspend Vick for his continued illegal dog fighting and his insiduous reckless behavior (Ron Mexico, waterbottle, flipping the bird to his fans, dogfighting, etc.) and his lawless breaking of rules and barbaric behavior. I trust and hope that Vick will be BANNED FROM THE LEAGUE FOREVER.

By falcon fan

May 29, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

So if Mike is disciplined or be charged; then we should assume that all of the other NFL players the guy saw should also…..

By KJW

May 29, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

Whay ll the allegations about Vick. Until he has been proven guilty - you need to just stop! I don’t condone dog fighting - but God doesn’t condone alot of illegal and LEGAL things that people do on a daily basis! Poor Michael Vick dogs - :o( They euthanize thousands & thousands of dogs a year because they can’t find homes - where are all the Dog Lovers then. I think the majority on the commentators are just Vick Haters! See you at the games this season - GO FALCONS!!

By Don

May 29, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

ESPN needs to give this a break. Running this over and over again. I mean doesn’t this network promote ‘ultimate fighting’ between human beings. Class people I guess.

Whose to say that horse in the Derby likes being hit with that whip. Horse break a leg, then we shoot it in the head. Then ESPN puts the horse on its top 50 list. Forgot people with ‘class’ participate in this sport.

Remember Duke Lacross. Ran that story in the ground also. Now ESPN tries to repay Duke by hyping the Lacross tournament. Please…. I don’t agree with dog fighting but do nothing wrong sport reporters and network are just as bad.

By Bailey

May 29, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

If any other player is involved, they should be subject to punishment also. Any race, any level of competitor. Like in the article, it is illegal to watch dogfighting in 48 states.

By slatapolsky

May 29, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

I wonder from whom Jeffy is taking his marching orders?

He must be a sad man.

By Tony

May 29, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

NASDAQ Why don’t you go on a hunger strike for Vick, and save us all from your moronic insider information about NFL players going on strike over this. I’m sure all the NFL players are saying: “I’m making the league minimum , but I’m going on strike so that the highest paid player in the NFL can be involved in illegal and inhumane activities. As a matter of fact I’m going to give up my salary so that Pac Man Jones can hang out at strip clubs too!” In fact I’m sure they’re saying “Yeah, ban Ricky Williams for life for a little pot, RIGHT on commish! ,but if you go near dog fighting now you’ve crossed the line!”

By Bailey

May 29, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

Some people seem to be forgetting a few things: 1. This is not an isolated incident. Vick has been involved with illegal stuff and immoral stuff on and off for the last 6-8 months (ever since the bird wave to the HOME fans…TO YOU!!!) 2. This is a felony. People say let this go. You can’t let this go. If Vick had been accused of killing someone, and there was evidence in both directions, would you say let that go, too? This is the same thing. This will NOT just go away. If it does, then Blank, the Falcons, and the NFL will be investigated, not just Vick.

By steveo

May 29, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Along with every other person who wrote a comment, i love dogs. BUT Who freaking cares, if Mike Vick commited a crime let him get his sentence. The NFL will let him get back on the football field and show everyone that he is the most electtrifying player in the NFL.

By Voice of reason

May 29, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

The lawsmakers have made it illegal. I personally would not get it the attention that it has recieved. I’m sorry but I just

don’t put it up there with serial killing, rape and sexual assault, child molestion, and the lost of our great men and women

in the armed forces being killed in Iraq. That law is not beyond being asked the questions of why do certain animals have

rights and other do not. Maybe we should have South Carolina change there name from GAMECOCKS because that

represent an illegal sport. some of you people really could care about dogs but are using this as an agenda get rid of vick

just like the media is using this to make MONEY.

By will50

May 29, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

Really people…what else is new? I mean just about all that can be said about Vick that is “bad” has already been said. He has been ridiculed, tormented and lynched by the media and the general public. There is nothing more to be added to this Vick thing that hasn’t already been said. So frankly, I am waiting for the verifiable proof/evidence..not some “covered up” snitch who would come out of the woodworks 7 years later to try and “finger” Vick. IN my mind, he is just as guilty as he claims Vick is and is not one to be trusted…period. Vick may or may not be guilty of dog fighting, nowever, I can think of alot worse that he could be accused of than dog fighting. Plus, I am sorry, I like animals, but no way do I put their lives above the life of a humanbeing, even if you or I liked the animal better than even Vick himself.

By will50

May 29, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Really people…what else is new? I mean just about all that can be said about Vick that is “bad” has already been said. He has been ridiculed, tormented and lynched by the media and the general public. There is nothing more to be added to this Vick thing that hasn’t already been said. So frankly, I am waiting for the verifiable proof/evidence..not some “covered up” snitch who would come out of the woodworks 7 years later to try and “finger” Vick. IN my mind, he is just as guilty as he claims Vick is and is not one to be trusted…period. Vick may or may not be guilty of dog fighting, nowever, I can think of alot worse that he could be accused of than dog fighting. Plus, I am sorry, I like animals, but no way do I put their lives above the life of a humanbeing, even if you or I liked the animal better than even Vick himself.

By will50

May 29, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Really people…what else is new? I mean just about all that can be said about Vick that is “bad” has already been said. He has been ridiculed, tormented and lynched by the media and the general public. There is nothing more to be added to this Vick thing that hasn’t already been said. So frankly, I am waiting for the verifiable proof/evidence..not some “covered up” snitch who would come out of the woodworks 7 years later to try and “finger” Vick. IN my mind, he is just as guilty as he claims Vick is and is not one to be trusted…period. Vick may or may not be guilty of dog fighting, nowever, I can think of alot worse that he could be accused of than dog fighting. Plus, I am sorry, I like animals, but no way do I put their lives above the life of a humanbeing, even if you or I liked the animal better than even Vick himself.

By reeses_peace

May 29, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

The shadowy image and disguised voice of the ESPN informant were not impressive to me. He places Vick to a dog fight 7 years ago but just decided to mention it. Hmm, something’s not right. In light of recent local events, the AJC should know a thing or two about paid informants. He should have provided the information 7 years ago when it was relevant, not 7 years later when it’s become popular. Personally, I question his motives.

At the end of the day, ESPN, the AJC, and all of Atlanta will have to wait and see what happens. While there is certainly enough evidence to implicate Michael Vick, the question is whether there enough evidence to indict him—a completly different burden of proof?

Mike, I hate that your name would even be mentioned in connection with dog fighting. You’ve embarrassed yourself, the team, and the league with this latest round of negative pub. I hope your season goes much better than your off-season has.

Go Falcons!

By Warren

May 29, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

I have always told my kids,”Don’t act like a jerk. The world is full of them and you might be mistaken for one.” I’m afraid Mr. Vick either is one or is surely mistaken to be one, either way he is a liability for the Atlanta Falcons. Atlanta should wish him the best and advise him to seek employment in another city. Maybe then he can start over and this time not act like a “jerk”.

By steve

May 29, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Vick has shown that he is nothing but a thug - a not too bright one at that. No one can take anything away from his incredible athletic talent, but he apparently has rocks for brains.

I keep thinking about that SNL skit right after his Miami airport trouble. Michael apparently hid pot (which is illegal) in a water bottle (which is illegal to take on an airplane). Brilliant thinking Mike!

By Bailey

May 29, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

His season will not be better. He has gone 8-8 and 7-9, and our team has gotten worse. Our defense is not near as strong. Plus, he will miss at least part of the season. Be it 1 game, or all 16, he WILL BE SUSPENDED. No indictment needed.

By Vick is jailbound

May 29, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

If the NFL would let Michael Vick go Today 05/31/07- he wOuld be in jail by 06/31/07 on a felony charge- whether is be a drug charge, dogfighting or hell, maybe even human fighting. His destiny without Arthur Blanks and the Falcons is really, really bleek. All you Michael Vick fans, be sure to save your money so you can send him some “honey bun” money when he FINALLY GOES TO JAIL !!!!!

By Pepe

May 29, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

So Jeff, what is the status on Gravy? Any free agents out there we should keep our eye on? How’s Shockley looking compared to Harrington and the other backups? Just a few things us a true Falcons fans would like to hear about. Feel free to provide your opinion on any new facts in the Vick case, but I think we have enough hearsay. Look forward to some on the field news…thanks.

By Rush Limbaugh

May 29, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick’s pit bulls have been hyped up by a Liberal media desperate to see a Black-owned canine win the Rip-Another-Dog-Apart Bowl.

By Mike

May 29, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

If Michael Vick was an ordinary citizen and not a well-known athlete, he’d already be doing time. He has no redeeming qualities as a leader. He’s a rich, arrogant, and dim-witted thug. I’d love to see a list of the classes he took at VT and his grade sheet! Like they used say about Terry Bradshaw, “he’s so dumb he couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the ‘c’ and the ‘a’.” Read defenses, Michael Vick? He probably can’t even read ‘The Cat in the Hat’.

By DD in NY

May 29, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Solid circumstantial evidence as well as an eyewitness account has landed plenty of folks in jail. Why not in this case? I’m so tired of celebrities being outside of the law, esp. in these heinous cases. And dogfighting IS heinous. These people are not normal and should not be in public. They belong in jail with the molestors, rapists, and murderers. Doesn’t everyone know by now that animal cruelty is a precursor to human violence? The fact that these buffoons think they are “just dogs” and dogfighting is “OK” is absolutely mindboggling and unacceptable!

By Steven James

May 29, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

I have to say I’m very sick over many of the things I’ve read… For those that want to have race be a color… I suggest they read about genetics and actually learn something instead of being “N****” their entire life… I read Dick Gregory’s book and that was the title so live with it…

Vick being a registered dog breeder is enough to see him hang in my view… I’m against dog breeding, especially when it comes to dangerous dogs… The FACT is they only looked into the house in the first place to find drugs… So to have that much taint to even be able to search for that shows something…

They found 60 dogs, many of them were not under fed or abused as many would define it… Yet there were a few that showed signs they had been target dogs or engaged in dog fighting… Not to mention drugs/needles/treadmills and other things used in Dog Fighting/Training Dogs to Fight etc… Most people would already be in jail already on the evidence they have… Even the little released to the general public shows a shade…

Vick selling his house for about half the value soon after shows he is clearly involved in something… If you own the house and its used to raise slaves to fight to the death you would be guilty as well… Many of these dogs get free to kill pets and children, most will be put down… Lets see how many of those 60 dogs, mostly pits seized are alive after all this…

To try to compare dog fighting to fishing and hunting shows huge ignorance… For starters nobody I know eats any of the dogs killed in this bloodsport… Many of the fishing shows I see even throw them back in the lake… I don’t like hunting, though I eat meat so I have to be fair… If a person kills an animal and eats it, that is far different than dog fighting sorry to say…

As for those who compare it to UFC and sports like that… Again it shows a total lack of knowledge about reality or the world… For starters UFC has a ref and rules, I don’t know of many if any deaths in that… They also wear some gear and gloves these days, unlike the early days of no rules… Many strikes and submission holds are not legal either such as finger locks… People make their own choice to enter MMA and sports such as those… A dog raised from a puppy or bred to fight has none…

If I adopt a few kids from third world countries… Train them to fight from an early age… Should I then be allowed to put them into hand to hand combat to the death?? Or even give them some weapons?? I find it sad so many black people seem to embrace dog fighting… When they were slaves and bred for speed and physical traits… Sadly that has only produced so many selfish pro athletes like Michael Vick…

Black or White, human race or some other created one… Vick is a person who has character issues, a long history of problems… Even his brother and other family members have things in their past and present… Dog fighting is a huge problem and only a felony in 48/50 states… The money it takes in and makes is far greater than any risk in being caught… Much of it goes back to kids who always would say my dog could beat your dog… My dad could beat your dad and twice on Sunday…

Sadly there are many in this world who don’t value any life… Humans are animals, whether you want to deny that or not is up to you… People who train and fight dogs should have to meet the same fate as their animals… Either die in the pit or be put down when they are captured and seized…

Take Care…

By Matt Shaub is GONE!

May 29, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Lord, Lord. And we just traded our best hope to ever be a classy, consistent winner. I cant wait till we play houston and we get our A— kicked by our former back up QB.

Vick is a THUG. THUG. THUG. Talent with no brain. Its not RACIST it the TRUTH. DEAL with it or live in DENIAL!!

Joey H is our new starting QB for 2007.

Maybe he can be a cinderlla man for us and get us off this THUG topic.

By Matt Shaub is GONE!

May 29, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Lord, Lord. And we just traded our best hope to ever be a classy, consistent winner. I cant wait till we play houston and we get our A— kicked by our former back up QB.

Vick is a THUG. THUG. THUG. Talent with no brain. Its not RACIST it the TRUTH. DEAL with it or live in DENIAL!!

Joey H is our new starting QB for 2007.

Maybe he can be a cinderlla man for us and get us off this THUG topic.

By Enough

May 29, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Lets just see what happens on the field. The informant was bs, 2000, Vick didn’t have any money yet he wasn’t even drafted until 01. Its a witch hunt no doubt. Guys like Schultz know that if Vick succeeds, the QB position will never be the same. ESPN needs ratings, they have over saturated themselves and have a need for any programming and stories they can get. The Falcons and Vick should sue for slander. What a world we would live in if we all were guilty by association. Who doesn’t have a relative or friend who doesn’t constantly get into trouble. Just trying to figure out why some much personal hate for the guy. Hate to think its race but the name calling and Schultz seems to have a agenda. What doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger and after Vick takes us back to the NFC championship again, it’ll make it that much sweeter for us real Atlanta Falcon fans. Not the fake folks from up North like Schultz. Any bets on wher Schultz is from, no way is he from Georgia or the south.

By GE

May 29, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

The comments on this blog are confusing if you consider yourself an anti Vick proponent. Before the black/white quarterback controversy, the water bottle, the mis-placed finger and now the dogs, the only complaint you heard was that Vick could not throw the ball. Oh, how I miss those days when the only issue was can Vick lead the Falcons to a championship.

I do not care about Vick’s personal life. I just love to see him play the game like no one else can do. I keep hearing that he is the face of the Falcons. I see him as only a quarterback and not a public figure for young kids to emulate as a person of high morals. Hell, I question some of the morals of those writing to this blog based on what I am reading.You are convicting him in absence of due process just like the players on the Duke Lacrosse team.

Football players are gladiators who try to kill one another on any given Sunday. They have been trained to do this ever since they played on Friday nights and Saturday afternoons. Lets put all this crap behind us and focus on some football.

For those of you who want to pass judgement on Vick, I suggest that you look in the mirror and correct your own faults and character flaws and try not to be so damn self righteous and hypocritical.

By InTownGal

May 29, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Okay folks, he owned the house, and you can’t tell me he didn’t know or participate in the goings-on. So, no one has a cell phone who lived in the home, and NEVER called him and he was completely oblivious? Right! It was a member of his extended family who resided there. His peeps and he himself has landed him in yet another pickle. You can take the brother out of the ghetto, but not the ghetto out of the brother! I am so sick of this mental midget.

By fan

May 29, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Exclusive: Warrant to search former Vick property rejected

03:45 PM EDT on Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Reported by: Patrick Terpstra 13News has learned that Surry County Commonwealth’s Attorney Gerald Poindexter has rejected a warrant to look for remains of pit bull dogs on the Surry County property that used to be owned by Michael Vick.

Poindexter says he and the sheriff “did not like the language” of the search warrant approved by a state magistrate. So they will not go forward with the search, which was requested by a sheriff’s office investigator.

According to the search warrant, an informant told authorities that seven dogs were destroyed and buried on the property April 23rd, two days before Surry County initially raided the property on Moonlight Road.

It goes on to say as many as 30 dog carcasses might be buried on the property.

So far, investigators have not said if the search is complete or what, if anything, they found.

The search warrant calls for a search of property behind the main house on Moonlight Road, not the house itself.

Watch the report According to the warrant, the U.S. Department of Agriculture Inspector General requested approval to go into a building on the backside of the property to pull up floor boards and wall boards looking for signs of blood.

The USDA also wanted to search for items that may have been used to bury animal bodies.

Police raided the rural home on April 25 during a drug investigation. 66 dogs, 55 of them pit bulls, and equipment that could be associated with dog fighting, were removed from the property.

Vick has said he let his cousin, Davon Boddie, live there and that he didn’t know a large kennel on the property could be involved in criminal activity.

By Mike

May 29, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Enough….I agree with you. Vick should sue for slander. That would bring everything out in the open. In order for Vick to sue, he’d probably have to take the stand and tell the truth. That would be a good thing. After all, ‘the truth shall set you free’.

By Ike

May 29, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

I hope someone is not still reading to get this far down…

Check the property and see how many dogs are buried.

I forget about the blood in the room, is that from giving birth?

Feel for Mike Vick, a lot of folks do love him, i was one of them, it’s getting harder and harder tho..

Take care all and love each other, leave the hate out, enjoy everyday on the great planet…

By RedTornado

May 29, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Innocent or guilty it doesn’t matter right now. Many of you are okay with dog fighting so the debate ends there. To compare dogfighting to hunting and fishing is ridiculous. Do you eat meat? Then those people can shut up. But Vick lovers don’t worry, Vick has best lawyers money can buy. So evidence doesn’t mean anything. Right O.J.

By Mike

May 29, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

GE…I can honestly say I look in the mirror every day. I have a lot of flaws, but I’m not a criminal and or a thug and don’t associate with people who are. I also am not a professional football player making $10 million a year. I’m not a quarterback (come to think of it neither is Vick). I don’t get any celebrity endorsements. I am a positive role model for my daughter, but no one else. I do work hard to correct my faults, however, I don’t blame my family and friends for my faults either.

By Will

May 29, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

All the dogs that were found at the house will be euthanized. They have been found to be aggressive toward other animals and they are not adoptable.

By Hawg

May 29, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Football players are gladiators who try to kill one another on any given Sunday…thats a little harsh dont you think. Personally, football players are trained to win, not to kill. Thats the Marines. Not football players.

Some people are rasing questions…like… What about people who hunt and kill animals for the sport of it. The thing abbout hunting is ITS NOT ILLEGAL

If Vick is charged he should be punished. He has lost fans for his antics this off season. I was a Vick Supporter, but with him flicking the bird, his Jewerly that smelled and left a residue of marijuana, missing congress, and now Dog fighting. I mean what kind of person does not know that Dog fighting is going on at his house. Oh, and werent the police led there because drugs were believed to be at the house.

ANd for people to say they do not care about Vick’s personal life. You have to because now his personal life is causing harm to the team we all love.

Come on. I am not talking about being a role model. I am talking about being a leader of a team. I wouldnt want to play for a leader who did all this.

By D2or3

May 29, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

What is SO scary are all you idiots out there — and it’s obvious there are hundreds — who don’t think Vick is guilty. Hello??!

Why don’t you all call Kathy Strouse, the animal control officer who was AT THE HOME where the dogs, paraphenalia, envelopes with Vick’s name, kennels painted black, etc. SHE SAW THE DOGS.

How can you all be so stupid to think that dogs WHO FIGHT do NOT get ripped to pieces? Do you think they are nice and shiny and new? No, the dogs have SCARS! They’re sewn back up…or left for dead…or die fighting. They are emaciated most times. They are treated like crap. Insidious!

Do you think this dog looks “healthy”? Then you need big, big glasses! [http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/05/29/vick0604/2.html]

The world is definitely coming to an end with all of you in it. I hope none of you have kids b/c your stupidity will just be passed down.

You all need to get a large boat, go out to sea, and never come back.

Who cares about football anyhow? It’s not even about the game. It’s all about the money. Ridiculous!

By Carl

May 29, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Ken, you are an idiot. It was in his home and there are credible people who have witnessed his involvement. He should go to jail for a long time as well as anyone else who takes part in such a disgusting act. Anyone who defends it needs help because that is disgusting that people can stand behind cruelty of this nature. Dogs are do not want to fight, that is not their nature. They are mistreated and trained improperly as to make them a danger to everyone. What if one of these dogs gets away and attacks you or someone you love? Also what happens to the poor dogs that are abandoned and too hurt, both physically and mentally, after their owners no longer need them to make them money. There is nothing defensible about these acts and I seriously hate anyone who thinks in such a way as to justify dogs killing dogs for money.

By Leon

May 29, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Why can’t smart people take advantage of this problem? Blank can find a Tax-Advantaged reason to ship Vick to Liberty. Liberty can create “The Wonderful World of Mike Vick”, and double their revenue by presenting it every “open date” at the TED. For the price of a ticket fans will be able to see the special skills of Mike Vick. Mike can demonstrate his speed by out-running a pack of his dogs. How he trains the dogs will show his Field management skills. The magic section will be a blast. Fans could not wait to see how he can make special containers that appear to be something they are not. Those same bottles can serve to demonstrate his passing skills by throwing the bottles to adoring fans. And when the fans drop the bottles he can display the proper way to shoot the bird. Maybe Ron Mexico can make special appearences and talk about herpes and other interesting community service issues. Then,the night of all nights will be “Family Night” when the entire Vick family can display to all fans (lucky enough to get tickets) their entire collection of weapons, including replicas of those taken by police, cars, uniforms, balls, and awards and citations won by this outstanding group. The Falcons win by getting back to football. Liberty gets another tax break. The Fans get to enjoy their hero in a more natural environment.

By Buford t. Justice

May 29, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Where is thug’s libel suit v. ESPN? Every city in the NFL but one sees Vick for what he is. Only Atlanta myrmidons defend this barbarian. (And, BTW, OJ did it, no matter how 12 nullifiers voted in LA)

By NADAQ

May 29, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

To all of the idiots, MY BLOG POSTED SEVERAL TIMES DUE TO COMPUTER ERROR SO KISS MY A* BECAUSE I ONLY MEANT TO POST IT ONCE!! Also, These guys are not saying that they are striking for Mike Vick! I’ve spoken with some friend’s who doesn’t give a damn about Vick, they are already complaining to the players union about the new commissioner. There are also several players threatening to take action if Vick is suspended without a conviction. They are considering this action for themselves not Vick! Do I think it’s stupid, YES! But I’m not the one considering this, I’m just providing insight as to what I have heard from the players and not ESPN.

By Spencaman

May 29, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Creed - Take your opinions and shove them up your a**. Take you game to the PETA website until you want to lend something of substance to this blog. Otherwise, kiss it. Oh, wait, since I didn’t blast dog fighting and tree hugging, I must have done it or be for it, right? Gimme a break…

By Andre'

May 29, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty. Vick has surrounded himself around the wrong people. If it happened in 2000, then he wasnt in the league then. Let the issue go until indictments are handed down. There is no reason to try this case in the media. You tried it with OJ, and look what happened. You tried it with Michael Jackson and look what happened. Brett Farve and Peyton Manning are two good old country boys, I am sure that they have violated some hunting law somewhere. Give it a break. All of you Vick haters stay your a* at home so the rest of us can see and support Mike Vick!

By Jim P.

May 29, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Are we really ready for the Harrington Era? Come to think about it…cant be much worse!

By CC

May 29, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

This is such a hippocritical society. I hate hunting shows!! Why kill the biggest elk in the herd, simply because he’s the biggest? I personally don’t believe Vick fought dogs, cocks, or even Siamese Fighting Fish. But if we should be appalled about anything it’s sport hunting. The white man has just about killed every species he’s ever laid eyes on. Let’s see, the Tasmanian Tiger, Carrier Pigeon, DoDo Bird, whales, tigers, lions, big game fish, the buffalo, the american wolf, and so on. This is nothing more than a witch hunt fueled by hate. You would hate to see your daughter with a guy like Vick huh. Well guess what, she loves him more now according to Mapplethorpe’s Marketing Theory.

By bkat60

May 29, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

It is really amazing that an issue like dog fighting can be turned into a black/white issue. The problem is that is it a felony crime and just inhumane. How cares if the people or the dogs involved or black or white. This is what is wrong with the community and as long as everything is always played out as a racial issue things will never improve! Get some intelligence people!

By Randall H.

May 29, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

I knew the Falcons should have traded him to Oakland for Jemarcus Russell and gotten rid of him, it’s not to late, some one will give a high pick for him because the media has made the do nothing into a superstar. HA!

By Nobodys Fan

May 29, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Personally I would like to know why we are concentrating on Michael Vick, who IF he fought dogs (still has not been proven), they were his dogs to fight. A dog is an ANIMAL.

We have just celebrated Memorial Day and what we need to blog about is the needless bloodshed of all of the thousands of soldiers who were sent to Iraq after WMDs that did not exist.

Shameless when we put more emphasis on the life of a DOG rather than a life of a HUMAN.

By Jim P.

May 29, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Dogfighting is not even in the same catagory as hunting. CC have you ever seen an elk? All you have are those oversized rats you call white tail deer. A good elk goes for about 800 lbs dressed out! unlike the approx 200lb deer you have. I know. I am a transplanted Falcon fan living in Colorado. I hunt for food. I hunt to help feed my family. I honor the game I kill to feed my family. Do you honor the cow that was killed to fix your Quarter pounder with cheese this afternoon? I didnt think so. I doubt that Mike Vick ate the dogs that lost. Hunting for food, (Only kill it if you plan on eating it) will always be my policy. Dogfighting and hunting should not be said in the same breath.

By Jim P.

May 29, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

CC as far as the black/white thing, I gave both my daughters black and white baby dolls. To show them there is no difference. To me there is no color. I see people for who they are. Not what they are. There is only one race in my eyes…the Human race. Get over it.

By PittBullion

May 29, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Vick was QUICK to sell his mansion in Virginia. Vick sold his home fast and essentially sold away the dog-fighting evidence the police would have used bury him with. Now the Virginia DA might not have enough evidence to press charges against that dog-gone mutt.

By Gonzogirl

May 29, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Nobody’s Fan, clearly you are nobody’s genuis either. No one is chosing the life of an animal over that of Michael Vick. The point is that dog fighting is a FELONY. Does the fact that rape is illegal make it a choice of the woman over the man?

Speaking of domestic violence, a whole lot of dog fighters have rap sheets which list crimes like domestic violence, gun and drug trafficking, drug use, gang activity, theft and so on. Children as young as 10 years old have been found fighting dogs. This is a disturbingly violent behavior, particularly for pre-adolescents.

This isn’t just a couple of goofy guys pulling pranks on the weekend. It’s sick, violent and wrong.

Those of you standing up for Vick and for winking at felony behavior are giving the south a bad name. You’re deep enough in the hole as it is.

OK, you’re excused. Head on off to your lynchings and such.

By GE

May 29, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

If you think that race is not a factor here, then you are very mistaken. Notice the little sly references to people who support Vick. I bet if you took a vote along racial lines, the majority of blacks would support Vick while the majority of whites would denounce him.

I love dogs too, but not to the extent of how this issue has been blown up. It has more to do with people who either like Vick or dislike him. As much as I would like to believe otherwise, race still is involved and it embodies all economic and social classes.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

Jonathan Babineaux? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Wasn’t there an actual dead dog in that case? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?

“30-40 NFL players involved in dog fighting” but the espn informant can only name one? His/her best evidence is a supposed fight from 7 years ago before Vick had money or was even in the NFL and he makes the point to brag that his dog won?? The guy has never been to Vick’s property, but claims to be down with all dogfighting circles? If the guy was a heavyweight and matches went on a VIck’s house don’t you think this guy would have been there? Hmmmmmm.

Bueller? Bueller?

By Deaner

May 29, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

vick needs to bend his knee to King Jesus…he will regardless..

the man needs to let his pride go, and become a decent person and Only Jesus can change him…..

He is the worst role model on the team. He can learn alot from people like Warrick Dunn..he has something vick doesn’t, class and integrity…

Vick MUST GO!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT UNTIL BLANK TRADES HIM!!

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

“Giving the south a bad name”???? LOL!!!

As if it needs to be given anything to earn it’s reputation.

Let’s not forget that Georgia is one of two states where it’s actually legal to watch a dog fight? I bet that 100% of you spewing your hate on these blogs all day long, have not written even 1 letter to your governor or congressman demanding that this law be overturned. Not one of you. Prove me wrong.

“Giving the south a bad name” That is soo hilarious.

By deaner1972

May 29, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

vick needs to bend his knee to King Jesus…he will regardless..

the man needs to let his pride go, and become a decent person and Only Jesus can change him…..

He is the worst role model on the team. He can learn alot from people like Warrick Dunn..he has something vick doesn’t, class and integrity…

Vick MUST GO!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT UNTIL BLANK TRADES HIM!!

By ScottSanderson

May 29, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

The Falcon fans should express their displeasure for Michael Vick by boycotting the Falcons games this season at the Georgia Dome. Just stay home and watch the games on TV and Blank will lose so much money on the Falcons that HE WILL HAVE TO RELEASE MICHAEL VICK.

By Dumbing Down

May 29, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

He’s not just a “COACH KILLER” or “FRANCHISE KILLER” he is also a “DOG KILLER!” Those who defend him are the same that say O.J. is innocent. Never try to reason with insanity.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

Deaner-pointer of self-rightous finger(rhymes),

How many Falcons players do you know personally to annoint Vick the worst role model of all of them? Perhaps you’re not aware of the Jonathan Babineaux situation? My guess is that you dont’ know a single player on the Falcons roster, therefore you’re not qualified to annoint anyone role model or not.

While you’re boycotting the Falcons instead of writing letters to your congressman to have laws overturned, I’ll take those tickets off of your hands. Thanks.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

ScottSanderson,

Great idea. By the way, how is that Gasoline boycott going? Not so good. Oh OK, will check back. A 30-40,000 person waiting list says that boycotting won’t work. Take an economics class. Supply vs. Demand.

By AnimalAdvocate

May 29, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

I think it’s BULL** that he hasn’t been charged yet!!! Vick needs to be punished for this!! He needs to go to jail!! And every other NFL player who’s involved in dogfighting needs to go to jail, too!! Or, better yet, they should all be tortured and beaten the way they’ve tortured those defenseless dogs!!!!!!!

By Fred S

May 29, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

For the comment of John, on May 28’th. You talked about how much you hated Michael Vick, and that he was a customer of yours. How stupid can you really be. There is nothing linking Mike to dog fighting, but the word of a bunch of low lifes, like yourself.For all you Vick haters, get a life, and let one of football’s greatest Quarterback play his game. One more thing, if you hate the guy so much don’t except anymore of his money.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Those who defend Vick are the same ones who thought the Duke Lacrosse team was innocent. Idiots!

By georgiadawgg

May 29, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Like one man said, Vick has the money. He can buy any high priced lawyer. Hell, Big nose Blank will probably pay his bill for him. Vick is making Blank money. VD Vick has made sure that I will never buy season tickets again. He’s a thug,thug,thug.

By LS

May 29, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Falcons Fan,

If my memory serves me, felony charges were filed against Babineaux and he is out on bond awaiting trial. I am not sure whether you are comparing the two incidents or implying that Babineaux is more of an animal than Vick, which I would agree with, for the record.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Animal Advocate,

Unlike yourself, in the world of law and the judicial system, there must be these little things called facts and evidence to tie someone to a crime. So sorry to dissapoint but if there was sufficient evidence, charges would have been brought already. Instead American tax payers money will be wasted because Americans are more interested in Michael Vick, Lindsay Lohan, and American Idol than Gas prices, the war at hand, and the corruption of government at all levels. It’s great that you like dogs though, really.

By steve

May 29, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

No one has rooted for Mike Vick to succeed more than me. I loved watching him when he was in college. There was excitement everytime he had the ball in his hands. I had hoped he would be able to bring that level of success and excitement to the NFL. He certainly has had his great moments, though certainly not up to the level to which I had hoped.

However, as disappointed as I have been with his development as a NFL quarterback, I have been even more disappointed with his development as an adult. Enough is enough - time for Vick to grow up or time for the Falcons to get rid of him. He acts like a thug, surrounds himself with thugs, and folks complain that he is being persecuted. He has brought all of this on himself. Every choice in life has a consequence. You choose to hang out with the wrong crowd you will eventually face a bad consequence. Hopefully, Mike Vick will look all that is going on in his life and learn from it and learn to make positive choices. I must confess, based on interviews I have seen and read, I don’t see that happening.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

LS,

I’m simply pointing out that this really has little to do with dog fighting, animal loving, or whether laws were broken. This has to do with ratings, selling papers, and people’s obsession with Mike Vick. If the story was really about animal cruelty, then MV would be taking the backseat on his own team to Jonathan Babineaux who has actually been CHARGED with a crime, unlike Mick Vick.

For the Simpletons:This has nothing to do with dog fighting. It has to do with the obsession of Mike Vick in the media and among fans. That sells papers, which raises prices for ads, which raises paychecks for media outlets, which rationalizes them printing false or innaccurate stories in order to… .sell more papers.

If animal cruelty were the real issue, Babineaux would be on the front page. Instead, nobody even knows or cares where that case is at right now. Charges could have been dropped by now for all we know.

By The Root

May 29, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

I have had it with the NFL and the low class people in it. The are a minority but call me in 10 years when you clean up the mess.

By LS

May 29, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

I believe that the topic for this blog was pondering whether the NFL could or should take action against Mr. Vick. The NFL is not a law enforcement agency, so the subject of charges being filed or not is moot. I believe the issue, as I interpret it, is whether the perception of Mr. Vick’s off-field antics warrant internal disciplinary action from the NFL or his employer, the Falcons.

By boots

May 29, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

**I have heard Mr. Blank wax eloquent about his pride in his team and THE CHARACTER CREDO that drives their selection process yada, yada, yada.

Up to this point, that’s nothing but horse hockey. I believe in a second chance, but my word, Vick has been given a second chance and the key to the franchise and is about to flush it down the toilet while Mr. Blank does nothing but pontificate about the importantance of CHARACTER.

Horse hockey!**

By boots

May 29, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

**I have heard Mr. Blank wax eloquent about his pride in his team and THE CHARACTER CREDO that drives their selection process yada, yada, yada.

Up to this point, that’s nothing but horse hockey. I believe in a second chance, but my word, Vick has been given a second chance and the key to the franchise and is about to flush it down the toilet while Mr. Blank does nothing but pontificate about the importantance of CHARACTER.

Horse hockey!**

By GABBY21

May 29, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

MAYBE I SHOULD START A RUMOR ABOUT OUR DEAR MR. SHULTZ. SINCE HE IS SO GOOD AT STARTING THEM HIMSELF OR SPREADING THEM FROM OTHER IDIOTS. WHEN WILL THE PEOPLE OF ATLANTA STAND UP AND RUN THIS PIECE OF CRAP OUT OF TOWN. I AM A SEASON TICKET HOLDER AND I LOVE THE FALCONS NO MATTER HOW GOOD OR BAD THE TEAM HAS BEEN IN THE PAST. I SUPPORT M. VICK UNTIL CHARGES ARE FILED AND HE IS COVICTED IN A COURT OF LAW NOT IN THE AJC.I WONDER IF MR. SHULTZ WOULD FEEL SO GOOD ABOUT RUMORS IF HIS A** WAS THE ONE BEING TALKED ABOUT AND EVEYONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WERE ACCUSING HIM OF A CRIME. STATE THE FACTS ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON. NO ONE WANTS YOUR 2 CENTS WHEN IT’S NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT’S WRITTEN ON. THE AJC IS NO BETTER THAT TABLOID PAPERS LIKE THE STAR, NATIONAL ENQUIER, ETC. MR. SHULTZ GET A LIFE….. AND LEARN HOW TO BE A JOURNALIST !!!!!!!!

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

The Commissioner is setting himself up for Giant law suits down the road by suspending players before they are convicted in a court of law. Please see both Kobe Bryant and Duke rape cases for further foot in mouth proof. You’re right, the NFL is not a law enforcement agency so they need to be staying out of investigations. The Commish must answer to the players union again at the end of the year. You can bet there will be giant issues regarding the suspension of players without due dilligence. As you can tell, the media can pretty shape what people think of a situation, and the media will have their feast on the commissioner himself one day soon when real news and paper sales are slow. The media is not the court of law, and the Commish has no right to suspend any players based on media perception.

By riccochet rabbit

May 29, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

This story is getting really thick. I just love how these media types have tried, convicted, and executed him in their court of popular opinion. Shame on you Jeff Schultz for dragging a name through the mud before the grand jury has even convened to decide whether to press forward with prosecution. It’s a really sad state that you, an opinionated and proverbial so-called journalist, has resorted to the proverbial pie eating contest. I seriously hope that this “conviction” via the media does not stick, and that you are held liable for libel. As the “facts” are not proven to be fact at all, as of current time.

The fact remains that dog-fighting is illegal. It’s not a pretty scene. It is an underground activity that a whole lot more people than you realize are involved in. Sure, you can say that it’s society’s miscreants only that are involved, but businessmen, as well as drug dealers are involved in it. This makes it no more or less of a crime, just encompasses a more broad spectrum than the media alleges. Mike has not been convicted anywhere expect the court of popular opinion. And as this is the hometown publication of the team he plays for, I expected a little more support until the courts have had their say. I suppose I was wrong about the AJC’s integrity.

Mike has said he realizes that the “company he (sic) keeps” needs to be evaluated and “the loose ends” tied up. He realizes that, in his development as an adult, that he needs to remove some of those that he associates with. I applaud him for this assesment, and hope he stays true to his word, as he has promised it to Mr. Goodell. To throw out these blanket allegations against him, though, is a travesty in journalism, opinion column or not. Sorry Jeff, I thought you had more class.

By Falconite

May 29, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

Just three WORDS…”DUKE LACROSS TEAM”. Do you remember that incident? Oh I forgot they were WHITE. VICK is innocent until he is proven guilty. You can talk about character of a person all you want. The only thing he is guilty of is giving a white man the finger. And for that we must HANG him!

By Dr. I.Q.

May 29, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

**CC: It’s hypocrital. You can’t spell and your logic is so flawed it defies explanation.

Quit worrying about Vick and learn how to write a declarative sentence.

I agree with those who have posted before, those rabid followers of Vick must have dropped out of school before grammar was taught.

By Other shoe drops

May 29, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

I’m with Andre on this. If Vick is guilty, they will prosecute assuming it is not past the statute of limita-tions in VA. If they had something concrete, I think we would know about it by now. (Please let this end before preseason.)

However, if they don’t have anything more concrete than hearsay from 2000, Surry County NOR GOODELL should have any other punishment lined up for him.

Please don’t let the other shue drop.
I don’t want JHarrington on my team, much less as starting quarterback. Go Vick, Go DJ, Go Chris Redman!

P.S. Did you hear how much MV7 was booed during the VT presentation at the NFL Draft. Ouch.

By Not A Southerner

May 29, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Wow, you guys in GA really are back woods! You have no idea what is being said around the country about Vick. Between your blind, stupid loyalty (be it due to racial, sports or just stupidity), you can not see the truth. Any one who knows about the legal system knows that all of the hard evidence will not be released UNTIL the prosecutor decides to press charges or not. As for the prosecutor, Mr Poindexter (yes, that his real name!) has been vascilating between charging Vick or not. Apparently the local sherrif and investigators (including one from the feds) insist there is plenty of evidence to go forward, but the local Surry County prosecutor has a problem - his county has a small population, and there is a very high percentage of celebrity types living there. Combine that with the fact that his position is only part time (thats how small this county is!), and he is an elected offical, he faces a lose - lose proposition. Indict Vick and lose re-election (since he a popular figure there), or do not indict him and be the laughing stock of the country, and possibly face charges himself (for granting favors and not following through on his oath of office).

I can tell you this - Vick is bad news. If he was a superstar football player he would already be in jail awaiting trial. This is nothing more than the same treatment those Hollywood types receive, and other star athletes receive. We all gripe and complain about it when Paris gets away with DUI even when we see it on videos, and we all cheered when she was sent to jail too. In the end, justice needs to be meted out. Anyone who has seen pictures of the dogs has seen the scarred faces staring back at them. The blood soaked carpet, the treadmills and traingin equipment, Vicks lies about never going to the property (who paid to buy everything, and why do his neighbors say he is there frequently?), it all adds up to something illegal - dogfighting! Vick will try to be like OJ and hire a dream team to get away with murder (of dogs). Will the public let him? Will you pull your heads out of yoru black and red arses long enough to breathe in some truth? Vick is a Thug. Anyone “trying to keep it real” is plain stupid. All that street, ghetto mentality needs to go. Last time I checked, the ghetto is not full of millionaires living in mansions. There is no way you can “keep it real” once you make it to the financial level these guys are. If they want to “keep it real”, he may just soon be able to do just that - by going to jail as most street thugs do!

Now, are you really sure you want to “keep it real” Vick? Didn’t think so…….

By Enough

May 29, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Schultz is just lobbying to be a guest on one of those ESPN gossip shows. Hope you get your wish soon so you can stop writing about rumors and trying to drum up more hate in hope that Blank cave in to you and your kind. If Vick is guilty he’ll get what is coming to him. The NFL can’t just bring down the hammer on people cause of a bunch of rumors and guess work. In fact, Its about time Atlanta Franchises shed the good guy act. Heck Babe Ruth wasn’t exactly a role model but he sure could hit that baseball. Bret Favre, nope drug and alcohol abuser, Bobbu Cox nope beats his wife while drunk, but you know the story.

By LS

May 29, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Falcons Fan,

I agree that this has little to nothing to do with animal cruelty. I also agree with your point about sensationlism in the media. As has been pointed out time and time again, even bad publicity is good publicity.

My largest frustration, however, is the inability of most to understand that as a business, the NFL and the team owners and managmement have some rights to govern the behavior of their players/employees both on and off of the field.

Everyone can end up in a negative situation once. However, multiple instances may indicate poor judgement on the part of the player/employee. I am not a role model not do I make even a miniscule amount of the money that Michael Vick makes. However, I would expect that if I drew negative public attention to my employer due to my own choices, that at some point my services would no longer be needed.

By riccochetrabbit

May 29, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

When will all of these parents screaming about athletes being role models decide to rear their own children. Athletes are role models, ON THE FIELD. It is YOUR responsibility to teach your child right and wrong off the field. You have a duty to your children to teach them what is acceptable and not acceptable, and not some athlete’s. Mike Vick doesn’t ask you to raise his children from the comfort of your desk chair, or your living room. It’s not his responsibility to raise your children through the television set from the football field. Own up to your own responsibilities. If anyone is a bad role model, it’s the person you see in the mirror. Tell your children to be like a certain athlete ON THE FIELD, but to be their own person OFF THE FIELD. Own up to your own responsibilities for once in your life, please.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

LS,

I think you would find that if you were the main source of income at your company, you’d be able to get away with a little more than the next guy. This isn’t an example of a drive thru guy at McDonalds getting fired. This is a case of Ronald McDonald himself.

The media has been wrong on COUNTLESS, COUNTLESS occassions with little to no apology ever.

The media lies to you every single day to sell papers and advertisement. They conjure up speculation, hear say, anonoymouse informants, and anything but actual facts. So far there isn’t one piece of hard evidence tying Vick to this alleged crime. Do people care? not really. They just want a reason to obsess over Mike Vick, be it good or bad.

Everybody loves dogs, and all of that crap, but let’s take the time to spew our hate at the right people. May I remind everyone what the first 3 letters of Assume are?

Nothing says empty dome like Joey Harrington, so be careful what you wish for so-called Falcons fans.

By RICKDAWG49

May 29, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

If you are going to compare dog fighting to hunting then do it, don’t pick and choose! A dog is a domesticated animal that can be so loyal that it would die for his master. Try that with a rabbit or deer. At least hunting, normally, kills the animal quickly and doesn’t draw a human crowd to watch the blood letting. Betting on dog fighting is also illegal and doesn’t normally happen with hunting. Bottom line is that hunting is legal and dog fighting is not. Vick, if proven guilty has committed a felony and that one fact stands alone! You should have to pass an IQ test to write in the press. What a bunch of Dumb A*******e$!!

By nate

May 29, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

Let’s all go back to the very first person who got on this blog called “LA”. I know for a fact that there are people who hunt down animals and kill them just for sport, but yet these so called animal lovers don’t take the time to raise a ounce of concern for those POOR ANIMALS IN THE FOREST AND WOODS. I’m not trying to justify dogfighting. if it’s illegal, then it’s illigal but this is so hypocritical of people who let these hunters get away with killing animals.

Seeing animals fight and make money is one thing but actually killing them. This is such a double standard by all who make dogfighting illegal but let the so called sportsman get away with murder the way everyone is making this out to be. if it’s about protecting the animals then put an end to all people who hunt animals and kill them for sport. If Vick is convicted then I have no respect for people who create the standard for how animals should be treated.

By Dirrty South

May 29, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

LOL. Listen to the Red necks get heated up over hunting. My only wish is that Vick moves over to NASCAR when he is done with the NFL just to make the red necks REALLY angry.

I’ve heard that Vick is also a fisherman, but that’s ok because fish can’t be domesticated? I don’t get it. Either it’s ok to kill animals or isn’t it? I’m so confused. Anyways, there are more important issues going on in the world that I need to read about, such as whether Lindsay Lohan is going to jail or not. American Idol will be starting up again soon enough. We need to get over this Vick issue and onto important ones. Will Britney make a come back? Will Jr. really leave his race team? How many days will Paris Hilton spend in jail?

By BILLY BOB

May 29, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

F**K ALL YOU VICK LOVING N****!! I HOPE YOU ALL BURN IN HELL!!!

By SharonH

May 29, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

“Dogfighting is worse than drugs, spousal abuse or sexual assault”.

Sheesh, I didn’t think I could get anymore disgusted with the AJC right now, but this takes the cake. You are so blinded by your hatred Schultz that you have lost all rationality and the tiny shred of credibility that you had left. If Michael Vick got caught jaywalking tomorrow, you’d start arguing that he should be sentenced to life in prison because jaywalking is worse than murder because no one is defending it. Please do us all a favor and take your Michael Vick witch-hunt to another arena. You’re just embarassing yourself now.

By Walter

May 29, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

I would like to say first, that I am a black man. I am 58 years old and have observed a lot in my lifetime. I am a retired psychology professor at Tennessee State University. I hate to see what is going on here with Vick. It it typical however. We have a black man accused of something. The majority of blacks are taking up for him. They are attacking the white people who think he is guilty. They are not looking at these white men as men but WHITE MEN. Then they call the white man racist, because they are saying something about a black man. We are the ones being racist. Blacks in general have much hate for the white race, because we were repressed for so long. But as a society, we as black people need to move on. It is 2007. And I can tell you from numerous studies conducted, black people are the real racists. I really hate to say it, but it is true. Until we as a black society forgive and forget about the past, we will not be able to move forward in a positive manner. By keeping our hatred for the white man, we are only keeping racism alive. Racism is kept alive today by the African American community. Not the white community. I don’t care who disagrees with that. It has been proven in study after study. Only the uninformed believe otherwise. I really hope that Vick leaves the Falcons one way or another. I am tired of the racial divide over the topic. People should be allowed to convey their opinion about someone without being ridiculed for it. As a black man, it sickens me that the white community cannot voice an opinion about an African American without being called “racist”.
TSU (Tennessee State University along with Grambling and Tulane University) conducted a study in 2001. The study found that a white man was 23 times more likely to be killed while in a black neighborhood by black people than a black man in a white neighborhood by white people. Dr. King would be very disappointed in us as African Americans if her were still alive. We are free men. However, we are full of hate. We go around with an ugly chip on our shoulders. We let our hatred of the white man control all aspects of our lives. I wish that I could live to see the day where blacks and whites could get along. Back in the 1980’s, I used to think there was hope for that. I now do not feel optimistic that it will happen. Black people in general are full of too much hate. I will keep praying for us, the white man, and society in general. I hope one day all this madness will end. God Bless. W.G.

By David Duke

May 29, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

We’re going to get over the Vick issue! When they clank the door shut on the criminal and leave him to rot for a few years is when we’ll get over it.

By AL D T TOWN

May 29, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

This ia one reason I stop buying AJC AND I AM ABOUT TO QUIT VISITING THEIR SITE. YOU ALL ARE THE RACIST PAPER OF THE SOUTH.

By Dirrty South

May 29, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

David Duke,

I guess you’ll be waiting then, just like you’re waiting on a re-election. Sadly, no one else sees your point of view to vote for you.

By Tim W

May 29, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Walter, Thank you for your very honest remarks.

By GABBY21

May 29, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this

None of this should be about black or white, green or purple. This is solely about right and wrong, innosent or guilty. My mother always said “Actions speak louder than words”. Let’s see if M. Vick is guilty and if he is then he should be punished.No one should be above the law. If he’s not , then he needs to live his life for himself and not live his life for others.

By David Duke

May 29, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

Walter, i enjoyed your post. Your writing was heart-felt, eloquent and very insigtful. I know you are about to be attacked by black people on this blog now. You spoke very lovingly about a huge problem and I commend you for it. I hope you will withstand the onslaught of rage that is sure to follow and will post again soon. It’s refreshing to read something I know was written by a genuinely good person.

By Magneto

May 29, 2007 7:38 PM | Link to this

There are blacks on this blog instigating the race discussion pretending to be white rednecks.

By Jim

May 29, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

Jeff, I think you are not using the term “lowest common denominator” correctly. Common denominator would mean somthing that we all share or have in common. This is clearly not the case with dog fighting.

By Mean D

May 29, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

Vick is a turd and he always will be. Thing is, in Atlanta you are automatically labeled as racist if you say ANYTHING negative about Vick. But who really cares. Vick is his own worst enemy. Just let him keep making a fool of the Falcons organization.

By Nunna Yo Biznezz

May 29, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

Walter,who are u fooling??

U are no more black than “Tiger Woods”!!!

U are a black man,and u are 58???

U would remember the Civil rights movement,and u would remember what a lot of black men 56 and over would remember,and that was the 60’s and years before..And u are,will,and always be white..

If u were a black man,”and u are not”,u would never use the phrase at the beginning of your comment,”i am a black man”,then later say,”african american community”..EVen Alley Pat,The King Children,Jesse,Al,would not even use that term,”african american”..They still say black..And my uncles who range from 52-71 still say black..

U not fooling no one…. P.S. Why are u fools at the AJC glorifying Bobby Cox and his soon to be ejection record..

It clearly shows that this (one time great manager),clearly has anger management issues…Didn’t he beat his wife up years ago?? Who knows what he has done to the poor drunk looking woman since…

By Walter

May 29, 2007 8:14 PM | Link to this

To Nunna Yo Biznezz. I don’t mind giving my real name. My Name is Walter Gaines. I still have a position as part time faculty at Tennessee State University. Simply “Google” Tennessee State University. Look up the school falculty on the site. Type my name in. There you will find my picture and desciption. I will pray for you my son.

By David Duke

May 29, 2007 8:19 PM | Link to this

Nunnya, thank you for your clear, concise, incisve writing. You are an example of intelligence we can all appreciate and point to.

By Jerome

May 29, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

White people need to get off vick. they ain’t nothin. to hell with the white cracker. They cant stand to see a brother to good. The only good white is a dead white

By David Duke

May 29, 2007 8:35 PM | Link to this

Mr. Gaines, I tried looking you up but I can’t find your name. is there a secret I’m not privy to?

By George Bush

May 29, 2007 8:36 PM | Link to this

Walter,

I don’t mind giving my real name either. Simply Google my name, and there I am. You can find my picture and description. Thank you for praying for me.

I don’t know about you, but whenever someone named “David Duke” agrees with my view point on racism, I might re-think my position. Let us pray.

By Raul

May 29, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this

GOODELL CRITICS MISS THE POINT

We’ve never been accused of carrying water (or any other fluids) for the NFL because, as anyone who reads this site on a regular basis knows, we carry water (and any other fluids) for no one.

Our rare praise and frequent criticism is doled out based solely on merit. When we see something we like, we point it out. When we see something we don’t like, we bleed glowing yellow ink all over it.

One of the things we like — a lot — is the manner in which Commissioner Roger Goodell has tried to clean up the problem of certain NFL players who think that they can do anything they want, due in large part to the fact that they are NFL players. Over the past few years, the increase in the number of off-field incidents has gone from being a wart on the league’s butt to a football-shaped goiter on its neck.

But as the problem of player arrests threatens the unprecedented popularity of America’s new pastime, some in the “real” media see fit to sound off about Goodell’s efforts to clean up the game.

The latest bozo to give it a whirl is Clay Travis of CBSSportsline.com. (Though we previously hadn’t heard of him, the name sounded vaguely familiar to us — in a “didn’t he used to be on American Idol?” sort of way.)

Travis makes the argument that Goodell should not mete out discipline absent a conviction in a court of law.

Travis apparently has not read the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Travis can’t use the “I’m just a journalist” excuse for not reading the CBA, because he apparently has a law degree.

If Travis had read the CBA, he would have seen that the league and the NFL Players Association jointly agreed to an exclusive procedure for handling players who engage in “conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football.” Both parties to this labor contract between the NFL and its players decided to give the Commissioner the exclusive power to impose punishment.

And both sides necessarily agreed to allow the Commissioner to determine what “conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football” is. The last Commissioner articulated his interpretation of the term in the league’s first formal Personal Conduct Policy. The new Commissioner has revised the policy to reflect his own views in this regard.

In light of these basic facts (all of which Travis has ignored), the notion that discipline can be imposed for something less than a conviction or a guilty plea makes sense.

Why shouldn’t players who get arrested be subject to a fine, suspension, or termination of employment? Every day, people in these United States get busted for crimes that they might not have committed, and many of them lose their jobs as a result of it. In an industry like the NFL, with overall interests so closely tied to public perception and image, it’s amazing to us that more players haven’t previously received stiff sentences for the embarrassment to the game flowing from a news cycle consumed by reports of the latest guy who was driving drunk or beating someone up or carrying drugs or guns.

Besides, and as we’ve said many times in the past, pro athletes have the money to buy the best criminal defense lawyers in the land, who are experts at planting reasonable doubt in the minds of jurors — even where the evidence of guilt is otherwise overwhelming.

In clumsily attempting to make his case (maybe we understand why he apparently never actually used that law degree), Travis seizes on the notion that the litany of players arrested in the recent past have received better treatment than the punishment imposed on Pacman Jones. There are serious flaws in this logic.

First, there’s a new sheriff in town. Decisions made by the last guy, Mr. Milquetoast, no longer matter. The idea that Goodell is bound by the practices of his predecessor is like suggesting that the next U.S. president is legally required to continue to follow the current administration’s policies.

Second, the sheer volume of names on the list of players arrested over the past seven years shows that the old approach wasn’t working. The problem has gotten worse over the past few years, not better. Thus, it clearly was and is time to act.

Third, Travis ignores the fact that Pacman Jones’ offenses include failing to report two separate arrests to his employer, which are blatant violations of the prior version of the Personal Conduct Policy — and which none of the other NFL players on the wrong end of the “State versus” equation had done.

So Goodell is right to roll up his sleeves and get his hands dirty. The fact that Goodell isn’t a lawyer is, in our view, a good thing. The Collective Bargaining Agreement gives him all of the legal cover that he needs, leaving him free to focus on solving the problem.

And the real test of Goodell’s power, and willingness to use it, isn’t the Pacman Jones case. The true challenge will be the manner in which Goodell sifts through the Mike Vick matter and imposes punishment, especially if he’s never indicted for involvement in dog fighting.

Under the CBA, Goodell arguably has the power to punish Vick based solely on the fact that his ownership of land at which an apparent dog-fighting compound was discovered is, standing alone, “conduct detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football.” If the NFL has determined through its own investigation that Vick was far more than an absentee landlord, we’re convinced that Goodell will take appropriate action, even if Mike never makes a perp walk.

Although folks like Clay Travis or Randy Aiken or whatever his name is will p** and moan when it happens, Goodell will be doing the right thing for the integrity of, and public confidence in, the game of professional football.

By Falcons fan

May 29, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this

To find the real low-life’s of society, look no further than the ajc Falcons blog.

By Disgusted Fan

May 29, 2007 9:04 PM | Link to this

Walter.

Thank you for your comments and perspective.

I have been Falcons fan since I was 7 years old in 1966 and my father took me to the games on Sunday afternoon. I can remember many Sunday afternnons watching the aways games on TV with my dad or throwing the football in my front yard while listening to the game on the radio. Tommy Nobis, Cannonball Butler, Claude Hunphrey, Ron Zook… these men were all my heroes. While I have moved around the country many times over the last 25 years, my allegiance has always been with the Falcons, even after 40 years of mediocrity on the field.

When the Falcons drafted Mike Vick I was enthusiastic. I still think he has talents that I have never seen in any other player. He is the most exciting player on the field at any game.

All that said, I have come to wish that he was gone. Is he guilty of dogfighting? I don’t know. Has he smuggled drugs in his fake water bottle? I don’t know that either. What I do know is that he has shown very poor judgement, and bad character. Is he the only player in the league with bad character? Aboslutely not. He is just the one with the spotlight pointed at him. But that doesn’t make his acttions and poor judgement any less significant.

I think the NFL is way past due in trying to clean up the image of the league and its players. I don’t have any illusions that this is being done out of some great sense of morality of the league and its owners. It is being done to appease advertisers and an increasingly vocal fan base that is ashamed to take their kids to the games.

Regardless of the reason, its about time, and I hope they don’t stop with Mike Vick. Let’s throw all the dope users, wife beaters, and other undesirables out of the league. The game will be better without them. Maybe then, I can become an NFL and Falcons fan again. Right now.. Im just disgusted.

By Greg

May 29, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this

Last time I checked, hunting did not involve watching two animals tear themselves apart. Furthermore, hunters do not derive any pleasure watching a animal suffer for hours as these in dog fights do. I dont like hunting at all, BUT it is totally different from dog fighting. Death comes quick and the object is not to watch two animals torture each other. Vick continues to prove he is a arrogant athlete. I use to live in Atlanta and get very tired of seeing so many blacks stick up for him no matter what. Forget about the race Atlanta! It permeates everything you do and say. Focus on the person and his/her character. Vic has none. OH yea, Tampa rocks and has none of this crap. Yea, I know…your football tema was better than ours last year and we stunk. Always this year though. Just get rid of Vick. His brother is another thug….and another story. The NFL needs to ban him( if allegations are true ) and strip him of his money.

By SharonH

May 29, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this

Dear Wally Gaines,

I looked for you at Tennessee State University. Guess what? You weren’t there. They must have fired your dumb a s s after reading those stupid comments you made on this blog. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, I hear the KKK is hiring. As you can see, Mr. David Duke is very impressed with your intellect. Good luck with your future endeavors.

By rufus brown

May 29, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this

hidden informant.. hidden voice.. i could call espn and tell them that i was with vick dog fighting put me on “hidden”. thats rediculous!!!!!!! they should not be publisizing a HIDDEN source that can say he saw vick doing whatever!!! its nuts… i agree.. vick is a thug and horrible for our team and city. however, the hidden source is rediculous.

By Larry West

May 29, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this

I’m amazed by the amount of people who have written “Let this story die”. I live on the West Coast. I’ve enjoyed watching the Falcons, and thought Vick was of “decent” character. If the Falcons do nothing regarding this degenerate, they’ll lose my support “forever”. I will NEVER root for him again! In my opinion, this guy should have a baseball bat taken to him, and then taken out back and shot, just like they shoot the losing “dog”! It’s just despicable! Larry West, Los Angeles

By hook

May 29, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry yall Vick did’nt invent dogfighting He is a victom. Watching it when you’er yong it becomes contagous and make you have competive nature you raise a dog to be the badest in the neibhor hood your ignorance of it being a crime makes you a victom.Problems are not solve until you get to the root. Those two states where its not a felony doesnt find it strange to see two well condition dog try to make each other stop fighting thats the competiveness of game fighting ucf do it on paypreveiw but its illegal in my backyard to fight my friend or host it. Wildlife and game says its against the law to shoot game without license but they do. So I may understand if someone can stand there and stomach two condition bulldogs exchanging bite or hold its not bad in two States, So take the hang rope off Vicks neck and digg a little dipper in the jim crow aera who watch dog matching as a past time eveen before football was invented.Reporters put your pens down because some of your late Senators loved to watch it according to two other states who though it not robbery to make it a felony.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

“Your honor, the prosecution would like to call the digitally enhanced and blacked out guy from the ESPN interview to the stand”

It’s a shame that ESPN doesn’t offer cross-examination for their lop sided stories. Anything to make a buck though right?

By DwayneL

May 29, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand the comotion…they’re just dogs people!

By Frank Verdecchia

May 29, 2007 9:47 PM | Link to this

I just want to commend you on the your columns pertaining to the Vick debacle. I watched the ESPN piece and I have to say I am disgusted. If he is guilty, whether he plays football again will be the last thing he is worried about. I’m starting to believe Marcus is the good son in that family. As a Pittsburgher, Atlanta ownership should take a page from the Dan Rooney playbook and cut ties with Vick. The cap hit should be an issue. It’s not the Falcons are going anywhere with Vick under center anyway.

By crodawg

May 29, 2007 9:50 PM | Link to this

I recall several instances of pit bulls attacking children around Atlanta since Mike Vick has been a falcon.I’m sure N.F.L security can find witnesses to tie Vick to these cruel attacks.I hope Mike’s unique Tarzannian ability to dictate how these otherwise docile animals behave is limited only to pit bulls.It would be terrible if Vick makes the squirrels and doves start fighting.Please,I beg you,someone MUST stop MIKE VICK !

By Greg

May 29, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

Larry West from west coast…… I do believe you summarized it the best with your comments……

DwayneL….. You can tell just about everything about a person by how they treat a dog….and the same goes for a society…..look deep and you we see the most unjust nations in the world with egregious human rights violations holding the same statemant as yours…”they are just dogs.” How a person treats a animal itself will show you his/her character quicker than anything.

AND STOP ABOUT THE RACE THING ATLANTA…let it go…..this has nada to do about race and everything to do with civilization and character. A humble and over achieving man/woman anyday….black or white…is priceless and is what decent people strive for.

By james brown

May 29, 2007 10:00 PM | Link to this

cnn is has a clip of a hidden informant that says mark golec of espn murdered 3 people at a convenience store last week, and raped 3 women 2 months ago. the HIDDEN informant says he was with golec at each even and is 100% sure golec is guilty.

By helen

May 29, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

Arthur Blank needs to step up and get rid of Vick now! He is an embarrassment to the team.

By Obvious

May 29, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

DwayneL, you are an idiot. Did God not create those “just dogs”?

By David Duke

May 29, 2007 10:09 PM | Link to this

Jeromey Rome, I would like to invite you to join our BTA movement. You are exactly the sort of guy we want to help get a move on to Kampala. Ahsalamilakum home fries.

By David Duke

May 29, 2007 10:21 PM | Link to this

What we need is a musical interlude. i know, I’ve got just the right thing.

Camptown Races

De Camptown ladies sing dis song — Doo-dah! doo-dah! De Camptown racetrack five miles long — Oh! doo-dah day! I come down dah wid my hat caved in — Doo-dah! doo-dah! I go back home wid a pocket full of tin — Oh! doo-dah day!

Gwine to run all night! Gwine to run all day! I’ll bet my money on de bob-tail nag — Somebody bet on de bay!

De long tail filly and de big black hoss — Doo-dah! doo-dah! Dey fly de track and dey both cut across — Oh! doo-dah day! De blind hoss sticken in a big mud hole — Doo-dah! doo-dah! Can’t touch bottom wid a ten foot pole — Oh! doo-dah day!

Gwine to run all night! Gwine to run all day! I’ll bet my money on de bob-tail nag — Somebody bet on de bay!

Old muley cow come on to de track — Doo-dah! doo-dah! De bob-tail fling her ober his back — Oh! doo-dah day! Den fly along like a rail-road car — Doo-dah! doo-dah! Runnin’ a race with a shootin’ star — Oh! doo-dah day!

Gwine to run all night! Gwine to run all day! I’ll bet my money on de bob-tail nag — Somebody bet on de bay!

Seen dem flyin’ on a ten mile heat — Doo-dah! doo-dah! Round de race track, den repeat — Oh! doo-dah day! I win my money on de bob-tail nag — Doo-dah! doo-dah! I keep my money in an old tow-bag — Oh! doo-dah day!

Gwine to run all night! Gwine to run all day! I’ll bet my money on de bob-tail nag — Somebody bet on de bay!

By Ernest T. Bass

May 29, 2007 10:24 PM | Link to this

Yes Obvious. God did create those “just dogs” just like he created snakes, crocodiles, sharks, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Osama bin Laden, and George W. Bush. What’s your point?

By John from Buckhead

May 29, 2007 10:24 PM | Link to this

I can’t help but to be bothered whenever people refer to Vick as a thug/gangster. A gangster is a member of a gang of CRIMINALS,you know, people FOUND GUILTY of crimes. A thug is someone who is a ROBBER and/or MURDERER. The only thing Vick has been charged with is fishing in an illegal lake area (& those charges were dropped)…sounds real gangster to me. Baggy clothes & diamond jewelry is a trendy image thing, don’t let it fool you. Now guys like Al Capone, John Gotti, Bumpy Johnson, Dutch Schlutz & Whitey Bulger…GANGSTERS. For now, Vick is just a young guy who has made mistakes in the limelight. If Vick is found guilty, he should pay the price. If not, let’s move on PLEASE!

By Obvious

May 29, 2007 10:30 PM | Link to this

To Ernest T. Bass: My point would be lost on you so since you apparenly have figured out the grand scheme of creation, what’s your point?

By Larry West

May 29, 2007 10:33 PM | Link to this

DwayneL…You’re part of the problem! They’re just dogs? Dogs are companions to humans. All they want to do is love you, be with you, and please you. They are people animals, They crave companionship, just like “most” people…maybe not you. Humans have the ability to make choices, dogs don’t. They’re forced into this stuff. We’re supposed to be caregivers to those that are unable to care for themselves, and protect them from monsters like this. People like Vick, and the other 30,000 or so, that love this sort of thing are just taking up valuable space and air, as far as I’m concerned. I’m no “big” animals rights guy, but good God, anybody with a heart can see that this has no place in a society of decent people! Larry West, Los Angeles

By sharon

May 29, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I’m live in Texas(YES I support the Texans-win or lose), and want to make sure the dog fighting story is investigated to the fullest. Can anyone tell me who to write, call, email to make sure this doesn’t fall by the wayside, like the water bottle in Miami? I know everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but I’ll bet no ‘regular Joe’ would have been able to leave the bottle and hop on the plane…..please everyone, pull together on this one, if Mr. Vick is proven to be involved, he should be punished to the fullest extent. He is supposed to be a role model in society, kids look up to him. Is this what you want your children to idolize?

By David Duke

May 29, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this

There’s much more to this story than just dog fighting. Mike Vick is involved in several areas of criminality!

By Larry West

May 29, 2007 10:47 PM | Link to this

Sharon..I’ve been looking for email addresses, with no luck so far. I’m looking for the email for the NFL Commissioner as well as the owners of the Falcons. Anybody???????

By Hillbilly

May 29, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this

Support the Arthur M. Blank Dogfighting Association.

Guilty in court is not the same as guilty in the court of public opinion.

I am a southerner, a country boy, a hunter, and a dog owner. I have had dogs stolen by dogfighters who use them as bait for their vicious dogs. I would personally like to kick the living s—t out of anyone involved in dog fighting.

Vick is obviously involved. Now it is up to investigators to gather evidence and prosecutors to make their case in court. I, however, don’t have to wait so long. To hell with Michael Vick.

By Dog lovers unite

May 29, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick needs help. If he is low enough to underwrite a dog fighting enterprise, then Mr. Blank, please release him from your team. I am not going to buy a ticket to support this kind of CRIME! The Falcons are at an all time low. Bring back the old guard. PLEASE! Dan Reeves HELP!

By Ernest T. Bass

May 29, 2007 10:58 PM | Link to this

Dear sharon and Larry West, will you please get a life for God’s sake? do you exhibit this same sort of activism on behalf of abused children? the sick and the elderly? war-ravaged countries like Sudan where in case you haven’t heard there is a genocide in progress? I’m betting you do not, instead choosing to join the Get Michael Vick Crusade. Disgusting.

By Skew

May 29, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this

You snugglers are amazing. You say there is no evidence, but you claim these informants are paid off.

hahahahahaha

You snugglers are the funniest NFL fans out there.

No evidence? Eyewitnesses at the fights can place herpieboy there, and you are still asking for evidence?

How many witnesses has to say captain herpie was there before you acknowledge it?

And the “Hunting vs. dog fighting” debate.

Forcing dogs to fight each other to the death is a little different than shoting a deer for eating. The deer is not put through suffering, where the dog could suffer for hours.

Nice logical thinking on the idiots who love them some vick. No wonder everyone thinks vick fans are the morons of the NFL.

By Larry West

May 29, 2007 11:14 PM | Link to this

Ernest T. Bass… What an appropriate name for you! And it figures you’d spout off something like that. That tells me a lot about you. Having a life “is” caring about “all” of those things. One person can only do what “one person can do”. You don’t know me. You don’t know anything about me. You don’t know what I speak up against and what I don’t, but I can tell by your words, that “you” probably don’t stand for much. People like you just want to sit around and criticize others. It’s pretty clear to me who has a life and who doesn’t. I’ll bet your a big “Vick” fan, huh? Larry West

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 11:32 PM | Link to this

Skew,

There are no eye witnesses. The DA himself says there are no witnesses and no video tapes. Anybody can claim whatever on ESPN, but in a court of law you are held responsible for your statement by perjury. Give me the name of one credible eye witness. Just one name. One.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this

So it’s not even illegal to attend a dog fight in the great state of Georgia. How many of you born again activists are writing your congressmen and Governor to have this law overturned if you care that much? Not one of you. This is not about dog fighting. This is about your obsession with hating Vick. Not one of you has written a letter or made a single phone call. Just a bunch of arm chair QB’s that don’t pay attention to real news, just entertainment news, and weigh in with your short little self-righteous fingers. Not one of you… .

By Larry West

May 29, 2007 11:42 PM | Link to this

Falcons Fan…Ever heard of slander? Defamation of character? I don’t hear about anybody bringing any lawsuits against ESPN. Gee…I wonder why. I think Vick will pay the price in public opinion, if no place else! I sure hope so. All I can say for you is “Bless your Heart”.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 11:45 PM | Link to this

What’s going on with that Duke case these days? Obviously guilty. The media said so.

By Ernest T. Bass

May 29, 2007 11:45 PM | Link to this

So larry west the answer to my questions would be: no. I thought as much. It’s funny but you and sharon had to know that dogfighting existed prior to hearing that Michael Vick was alleged to be involved. How come you didn’t care until now? All of a sudden it is the biggest concern of your life? what were you doing to stop it until now? Oh that’s right, it wasn’t a big concern until Michael Vick’s name was attached then all of a sudden it is the worst crime you have ever heard and you are galvanized to do something. It didn’t matter before. Uh-huh. I got your number.

By map

May 29, 2007 11:49 PM | Link to this

WHAT TO DO ABOUT MICHAEL VICK?

EASY…GET RID OF HIM HE IS SUB-HUMAN.

By Falcons Fan

May 29, 2007 11:55 PM | Link to this

Larry West,

Yeah. I’ve heard of all of it. It’s what you’re doing. It’s also what the Duke students should be suing every news and media outlet of, and what Vick should do as well if the evidence against him stands as is. The police and prosecutor say that there is no evidence against Vick and that he is not even a suspect, yet you are part of an eager and gullible crowd that believes anything the media says to help your hatred of Vick. Thanks for blessing me, but I truly feel sorry for those who believe anything they hear and don’t even need an actual name to provide credibility to some mystery witness on ESPN. He didn’t even go to a real news source. This guy made some cash from ESPN and announced that his dog beat Vick’s dog 7 years ago in some supposed dog fight that wasnt’ even at Vick’s house. A self-proclaimed dog fighter pointing the finger at Vick, and saying that he is worried about Vick being a snitch? This guy is not a snitch if he is even credible? Laughable at best. That doesn’t work in a court of law. Public opinion comes down to wins and losses with this sorry American public. They like you, are not interested in facts, evidence, testimony from people who actually have to sign their name on a court document, you know, the legal system. Ask Ray Lewis or Kobe Bryant. Ask the students of Duke how accurate media reporting is. C’mon, I bet if I told you that there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, you’d believe it. First 3 letters of assume are? Sad part for you is that you’ve already made your decision without even hearing the whole story, so why even keep following the story?

By Dirty Sanchez

May 30, 2007 12:00 AM | Link to this

The way some of you are grandstanding here is almost comical…

“If we don’t get rid of Vick, I won’t buy season tickets”

“We need to get rid of him IMMEDIATELY”

“I won’t support this team with him as the QB”

All of these etched in stone opinions based of testimony by Darth Vader, other unnamed sources and the court of public opinion who’s opinion counts about as much as a pile of ish in a toilet….

Can we please do the simple thing and wait for evidence, investigation to finish before we begin to climb on top of our grandstands here?….

By Lucille Willoughby

May 30, 2007 12:10 AM | Link to this

Anyone who would defend someone involved in dogfighting would no doubt defend someone involved in producing child pornography as well—provided they were a quarterback for their team. What a load of peckerheads.

By Gary /Saints fan

May 30, 2007 12:11 AM | Link to this

Just a couple quick comments. Anyone who claims Vick is innocent in this matter is being intellectually dishonest. As someone pointed out if ESPN manufactured a witness as some claim they would be subject to a defamation lawsuit. Of course those of us who aren’t in denial about Vick know no such suit is forthcoming because if vick pursued such action he could no longer hide behind his 5th amendment rights. He would be forced to answer questions under oath that he has no intention of ever addressing.

Also earliar several people tried to draw a parallel between this emergong case and the falsely accused Duke lacrosse players. This doesn’t wash and I’ll tell you why. The Duke athletes immediatly and voluntarily made themselves available for polygraph tests and ducked no question.

By map

May 30, 2007 12:12 AM | Link to this

THE ARTHUR BLANK fOUNDATION OWES A LARGE….REALLY LARGE GRANT TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY. MAKE THE OLD JACKASS PAY.

By Larry West

May 30, 2007 12:16 AM | Link to this

Ernest T…. That’s pretty nifty how you answered all of your own questions, for me, with wrong answers. Thing is, you just don’t get it, and nothing anybody says can make you “get it”. You’re just of “that mentality”. You have it in your mind that I’m a “Vick hater”, and nothing will change that for you, therefore, anything said against him, you’ll just write off, as just that…and refuse to see the truth. Nevertheless, I did state that at one time I “did” support him AND the Falcons. Anytime that “anyone”, who is a public figure, gets caught up in a big, ugly situation like this, it brings about “awareness” to that situation, and changes will be made to benefit everyone for the better. How you could even try to defend someone like this “just because he’s on your team” is beside me. Are all Falcon’s fans like you…I’ll bet not! Man, I love makin’ new friends! Larry West