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By la

May 28, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Please let this story die. What about people who hunt and kill animals for the sport of it.

By Joe

May 28, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

This story has used all the legs it has and then some I dont support dog battles to the death but until there is proof of dog fights what we hear is just noise good stuff for the Vick haters but noise to everyone else.

By Ken

May 28, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Everyone has seen an episode of CSI or murder she wrote at one point, so we can all piece together what we think is going on… but with everything said their is no evidence of Mike so far presented that he is guilty. This guy on tv yesterday says he seen Mike in 2000 at a fight but did not disclose where at what time?, next he said he has never been to the property in Virginia, and finally this mysterious figure says, they have mike but they don’t have mike, so until there is an actual photo or ledger sheet with his name, he can easily discredit this guy. Oh and finally this guy says he thinks mike would snitch? well he seems to be talking a whole lot with his face covered. Now dog fighting is not something I approve of, but until then Let me know when you have some real eveidence to present.

By Creed

May 28, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

I am a dog Lover and I will NEVER let this story die until these dregs of society are brought to justice. Poindexter sounds more like a defense attorney than a prosecutor. I want a Federal investigation against these animal abusers. NOW

By steve

May 28, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

I think people that fight dogs are trash, white or black. But this latest incident highlights the character flaws Vick has. He has gone by an alias go get an STD test, had a bottle with a hidden compartment in it for “jewelry” umm hmm and now this… when are the fans going to wake up and realize this guy is nothing but a hyped up thug gangster who will never win a superbowl. As long as he puts people in the seats, he will remain a falcon and that is the saddest part of it all.

By Phil C

May 28, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

I am a animal lover and do not condone any sadist that would derive pleasure from watching dogs or any animal tear each other apart! I like the previous poster also think those that buy high powered weapons with telescopic sights, hide themselves in trees and derive pleasure form killing animals are cowards and equally problemed but society allows one giving them permits to practice their hobby so I guess its considered alright ! In the case of Vick so far at least, nothing I have heard could be considered evidence in a court ! so I believe the press and those that love to watch train wrecks should leave him alone until he is charged and some conclusive evidence is found besides the word of some one who admits being a part of this savage “sport” and now goes around informing on others to save his own cowardly hide ! If Vick is innocent, and this is only if, he is being done irreparable damage by the hungry media for their own IMO just as vicious reasons.

By David Lee

May 28, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

All this is all heresay nonsense. Show me the evidence. Allegations with no evidence.

By Jon

May 28, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Let the story die? there really are some stupid people here. Vick is a punk and a dope, some of you are sure to like vick because of the latter. I own two german shepherds, and let me tell you if vick came within twenty feet of them I would either beat him within a inch of his life or place bets on how quickly they could do the same.

Cruel huh? well think about the dogs who were gamed by illiterate dopes who got their jolleys off on watching dogs kill each other

Poor petrino, he has himself dope and a punk at QB.

By DLAW

May 28, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

Though Clinton Portis may have been wrong in his comments, he did have a point. Dogs fighting to their death is both illegal and plain wrong. What’s funny is that it is O.K. to watch fisherman catch fish and hunters shoot innocent animals “for sport” on television. Come on America, let’s get real. Are we saying it is O.K. to kill animals as long as they don’t see it coming? -REAL TALK, NOT JUST NEWS

By real falcon fan

May 28, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

ajc we know you guys hate michael vick you’ve been the main ones dragging this story on! with your unreliable sources. we blacks like vick and don’t want him out of town so shut the f*** up about this story already every damn day!

By chi chi

May 28, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Every week its something new last week they said that the dogs werent in bad shape now espn gets this informant come on now you see whats happening some people want to see vick go down and espn is one of them

By Leandre

May 28, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

When was Mike indicted… send me the link. Is this the same informat that the Atlanta Police Department used?

The NFL is worried about the “white folks” not coming to games. When Mike run for a 50 yard touchdown - they wouldn’t care if he was the referee at the dog fight.

By John

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

3 out of 4 posts on here are defending this guy readily. I don’t understand it. Vick could kill babies and people will still defend this worthless idiot. Unfortunately I had to deal with Vick as one of my customers and this guy is a loser. He’s rude and thinks his sh*t doesn’t stink. I personally hate this guy and was waiting for a day like this when his ship would sink.

By stuck at home

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

At this point, we the public, do not know what the evidence is. That has not been leaked, to my knowledge. There seems to be enough to cast doubt on Mike’s character and even his word that he did not know what was going on. Here is my problem. Did you see Mike’s quick interview on the run with Buck Lanford? Did you hear Mike’s words? “No matter what Mike Vick does people will support me.” That bothered me. I like Mike. I have refused to cast condemnation on him, and I still do until all evidence is in, but that statement is arrogant and smacked of guilt of some kind. I’m ready for this crap to be over and for Falcon’s Fans to be able to focus on the upcoming season in terms of football and not off the field crap.

By Big G

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Annoymous Source — can’t get a real source ESPN? It’s probably the head coach for the Panthers, Bucs or Saints.

By RA

May 28, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Hmmm, it’s all so funny. Last I heard the district attorney’s office had issued a statement that the dogs found on Vick’s property were in very good shape and didn’t look like they had been abused. Wait a minute, that’s not the last I heard. The last I heard was ESPN’s report about this informant who had seen Vick at a dog fight, in 2000, and said that he was one of the major big-wigs in the industry. I’m not a Vick apologist. I think he needs a haircut and an attitude change, BUT I will say that I haven’t seen one sthred of viable evidence linking him to dogfighting, and until I do, I’m not going to accuse him. However, without hard evidence ESPN has convicted Michael Vick in the court of public opinion. And the AJC has done no less. I’ll tell you the truth, if I wrote for the AJC or did that story on ESPN, I’d really hope that Vick doesn’t get exonerated because if he does, there could be libel and slander suits all around…

By gizmox329

May 28, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

I wish someone would produce the evidence against Vick or either let this thing die. Charge him or drop it. How long does it take to gather evidence? Offer practically anyone enough money and they will lie for you on TV. Please, enough is enough!

By leandre

May 28, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

animal lovers - what do you think about the folks sneaking around in the woods killing “bambi” and “peter rabbit”? Just curious…

By RA

May 28, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

Okay,

realfalconfan, not all blacks like Michael Vick. I respect him as a player, but I’m also a school teacher and I’ll say that a lot of the decisions that he’s made off the field have set a bad example for young people. Is Michael Vick a role model? Probably not. Is Michael Vick a criminal? Prove it. I’m not fan of Michael Vick the person, but I am a big time fan of justice. I just want to see it done.

By Scott

May 28, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

Black people, get your asses in order. Dog fighting is not cool it is a disgusting abuse of an animal. Anyone who participates in this crap should be locked up in jail. Stop making every other black person in the world look bad because a few unevolved pieces of trash like to have dog fights. Vick you are no longer from the ghetto or the back woods. You represent a billion dollar company, start acting like it. Not like a complete thug trying to keep it real. You are doing nothing but hurting other black people with your behavior. This is why stereotypes are still around because a black guy gets famous and then disgusting things like this gets released. GO AWAY VICK, you are offensive to every black person with an IQ over 70.

By boots

May 28, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Vick should be disciplined, if for no other reason than for his stupidity —-in subjecting his owner, coaches and team-members to this distraction.

The list of ocasions where Vick has embarrassed his team by exercising poor judgment is legend and proves beyond any doubt that he is dense, retarded or just plain stupid and is oblivious to his responsibilities as leader of this team.

Sit him out until he learns that it is a privilege to lead a franchise

By thomasdavis

May 28, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Vick is innocent. Drop this ridiculous allegation on his character.

By LJ

May 28, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Vick has been nothing but trouble since coming to Atlanta. BOYCOTT THE FALCONS until they get rid of the thug.

By Matthew at the SLC

May 28, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

Vick’s days as a Falcon are numbered. It is only a matter of time before he is shipped off and the franchise moves away from this disaster.

The mobile, black QB is starting to fade. Teams are moving back to the traditional drop-back passer. The Falcons will do the same after they get to the point where they can dump Vick’s salary.

He is the biggest piece of SCUM to ever suit up for any Atlanta team. I cannot believe the Falcons can even trot is sorry butt out on opening day as the starter.

By Matthew at the SLC

May 28, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Vick’s days as a Falcon are numbered. It is only a matter of time before he is shipped off and the franchise moves away from this disaster.

The mobile, black QB is starting to fade. Teams are moving back to the traditional drop-back passer. The Falcons will do the same after they get to the point where they can dump Vick’s salary.

He is the biggest piece of SCUM to ever suit up for any Atlanta team. I cannot believe the Falcons can even trot is sorry butt out on opening day as the starter.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

AJC,

I gotta give it to you and the world wide leader in pure crap ESPN, personally trying to bring a man down for all of your own personal gain.

I in no way shape or form condone dogfighting AT ALL. The problem is that there has been no PROOF other than hearsay from 2nd and 3rd hand sources and guys who like to have dots on their face on national TV. It’s one thing if you had legit information that would indict the man, then fine. However, when it’s clear that you, ESPN or anybody else for that matter has information to bring charges to Vick, stop beating the man down until there is such information….

It makes the media (including you all at the AJC) look like some vultures who are willing to print tabloid type rumors as gospel even if they have no proof and/or basis to slander a man’s name……

By FALCON30901

May 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

This is just another of the bad reporting by AJC. A couple weeks ago the paper reported that the dogs on the property were malnutrition and scared up. Then it was reported that the dogs were in such bad shape that they had to be euthanized. All the while the dogs were found in great shape for selling. The only dog that needed any veterinarian care was one dog with a birth defect… as quoted by the Prosecutor with real evidence. Shouldnt the AJC have talked to the prosecutor that was actually on the site. Where did this sorry excuse for a paper get its evidence. Some of the same reporters that claim that Vicks dynamic play on Sunday was the reason that they lost games. If this paper ever had a real Beat Writer, someone that was actually at the game with knowledge of the sport, Vick would be looked at in the south the same as he is viewed in the rest of the country. He is a star. Where is this sorry reporting coming from. just a bunch of guys trying to up their portfolio in order to get a gig on a ESPN or Foxsports show. Guess what those stations would be liable for millions if some of the crap being reported on this paper were ever said on TV with millions of educated people watching. Now this southern paper with the reputation for downing its black local stars is quoting a station that is quoting a crack head. Anyone that actually watched 16 games of Atlanta Falcons football would agree that Vick was the best player on the field whenever he played. Its not his fault that his now fired former Offensive Coordinator would only call 15 pass plays a game. Whose play call would start ever series with a rush right then rush middle then tell Vick to make something happen on 3rd down. It wasnt until Vick reached out to HBO and told them that “if he got the opportunity to throw the football he would have produced”. The next two weeks Vick and his favorite target (Alge) were nfc players of the week. NO one should ever question MV’s skills. He hasnt lost more than 2 games in his career. He has put this team on his back and wasnt able to win a couple, but he wasnt the reason that we lost. He is one of the 4 guys on the Falcons team that frustrates the other team. He is the best player on the field. He is the guy that brings it every week. He throws his body around and exhaust himself all year and on game day. Yes he threw up his middle finger to a couple unruly so called fans. Did anyone see how he played in that game. Did anyone noticed how much he gave to this team during this game. Constantly keeping us close on offense trying to over come bad play call and a couple key big plays by the defense. Payton would have done the same. You dont give your all to something without having feelings. Vick just let his feelings come out of that finger. So when people read articles from this sports section please realize that your receiving some of the worse bias reporting ever allowed to be printed on any paper.

By letsgetreal

May 28, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Vick is a thug, always was always will be. Lets quit making up excuses for him, and quit playing the reverse race card. Im sure the people who keep defending him are the same idiots who think OJ is innocent.

By greedy

May 28, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Where is the proof. Where is the proof. where is the proof. you smucks have no real proof.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

p.s. - A lot of you all really need to (a) come off of your more holy than thou grandstands and (b) stop hiding behind the word “thug” and say what you really want to say…..and I think you all know what that is….

By AngryRepublican

May 28, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Jeff, You and the rest of the AJC (All Jokes Considered) fishwrap as in your reporting is nothing but a joke. It is more like tabloid journalism at best. If I wanted a tabloid fishwrap, I would by it from the rack at the checkout line in Walmart. Is Terence Moore over the whole Sports Dept now? Don’t get me wrong, I am an animal lover. I have two dogs of my own. So if this story is true, he needs to be prosecuted. BUT, that’s the problem. There has not been one shred of true and factual evidence linking Vick to any of the allegations. Every time this story gets updated, it is front page news at first. But after further investigation, it keeps getting debunked but the truth gets buried on the back pages of the paper. This fishwrap is just like any other supermarket tabloid, it will be first to jump out with a half-@ssed story with no facts just to claim it was the 1st to report it. But when the truth comes out, it is relegated to back page status without so much as a “sorry” or a “we were wrong.” I guess it is easier to sling sh!t to see if it will stick than to clean it up afterwards. If you can’t tell already from most of the posts on here, people are fed up with this story. So far it has been, lies, inuendo, rumors, half-truths, etc. I am just like most of the posters would rather hear about the Falcons. This last mini-camp, all the reporting was on the ALLEGED charges and the rest of the reporting was two sentences about Grady “Gravy” Jackson not working out. Everything reported was 98% about off-field issues that had nothing to do with camp. Whatever happened to a breakdown by position of how the rest of the TEAM performed in camp. It’s the same with the biased reporting with High School football last year focused exclusively on teams from the Metro area. The funny thing was a lot of public outcry from other parts of the state finally got the GJC (GWINNETT JOURNAL CONSTITION) to report on other areas. After all that focus on the Gwinnett teams, it was teams from the Mid & South part of the state that took 4 out of 5 titles. But again all the focus wasn’t on the winning squads but what the Gwinnett teams did wrong this year. I guess that would have been to much like REAL REPORTING, REAL JOURNALISM (and common sense/decency). If AJC can’t get it together, and I mean quickly, I will let my going on 18 year subscription go just like so many other people have. I guess AJC needs to change the tagline “Covers Dixie Like Dew” into “Covers Dixie in DOO-DOO.”

By SteveO

May 28, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Here is a clue for some of you who think there is no “evidence,” and only witness accounts — witness testimony and statements ARE “evidence.” Most people are convicted of crimes through the use of… you guessed it…. witness testimony. Further, the police likely will not release what they have until charges are brought, or they close the case without charges. Until then, it will be a story. Moreover, the NFL may step in after that if they believe they have enough, with or without criminal charges. Obviously, the mental giants who post any variation of the term “Vick hater,” “stop hatin’” and the like are discounted to zero weight in any discussion, as is the bigoted trash posting that the NFL is worried about “white folks.”

By Jon

May 28, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

Thank you AJC for continue to bring this story to the people. It’s great to know that the AJC will not be bullied by those ignorant people who continue to support Vick during this time.

By My View

May 28, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

I have never attended a dogfight, and don’t care to. But will someone tell me why a dog fight is a “crime” and hunting is a “sport”. I personally find that theory hypocritical.

By curt

May 28, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

I live in Columbia, South Carolina home of the “Gamecocks”(chicken fighting) and on espn radio there is a sports show that comes on at 4pm. The guy on the show is a Vick basher to the one hundreth degree. He talks about how much of a scumbag Vick is for being involved in dogfighting and how he should not only be suspended but put out of the league. I believe that a man is innocent until proven guilty. Even if Vick is charged he should not be disciplined by the league until if and when he is convicted. The NFLPA let Goodell set a dangerous presedent with pac man jones(who has never been charged with a crime). We saw what happened in the Duke Lacross case and still I find it quite amazing how people are ready to once agian jump to conclusions without letting the Justice system work things out. I’m not defending Pac man Jones or Vick I’m just saying let the legal system work before we demonize a player or kick them out of the league.

By Edd

May 28, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Where is the proof ? Remember, you CAN NOT beleive the media, this is how they make money. If Vick did it then punish him and everyone involved, until then let’s find some real stuff to talk about..

By no answer

May 28, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this

Two young black males were gunned down in Atlanta back in 1999 and Ray Lewis was directly or indirectly involved.The next year he had a pro bowl year and lead his team to a superbowl,and now he is considered a hero.I guess two young black men that died at a club because of Ray Lewis is less than important than some dogs!You call Vick a thug or a gangsta but where is his criminal record?Some of you fans are a bunch thugs who need to be under control you fans were the one who harassed Vick at the games,yall harassed Chris Chandler’s wife when he got hurt,the fans in Philly are so bad that they have a jail at the stadium!,what about the fans that threw beer at Ron Artest?I have been to plenty of games nfl,nba,and mlb with my kids and hear drunk fans cursing and arguing.So don’t hold pro atheletes to a standard that you fans don’t have yourselves.Now back to dogfighting,I don’t condone it but unless you people are vegans than you are all a part of some sort of animal cruelity!

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

scott u sound quite stupid, when did fighting dogs become and GHETTO and a THUG activity, travel to south GEORGIA, and get a reality check, Whatever Vick does HE reflects himself not every black person!!! Does Cho Seung-hui represent all ASIAN people, does Timothy McVeigh represent all WHITE peeople, lol idiot.

By Jon

May 28, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

Oh shut up Sanchez, people say THUG, they mean THUG. Just like when Todd Bertuzzi (hockey player, google it) hit Moore with a sucker punch, they called him a THUG. Quit trying to bring the conversation down to your loser level and make it racial, you are wrong.

By #7

May 28, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

I am a dog lover too. This is the USA . This is not the 1950’s in Atlanta or the USA. We the people who love the Falcons demand this be done right;not by a lynch mob press. Jeff has told us in his own words “Vick must go”. To the NFL commissioner we have the laws of the land not gossip of the good ole boy media. ESPN, AJC sport are out to destroy Vick and our team make no bone about it. Jeff you will pay a heave price to get your wish. You and your paper won’t let this story die. The fed have paid a guy to say Vick is a dog fighter and 30 other player he never said any other player name only Vick. Truth will stand .Jeff they don’t need your help lies gossip. You are are a low class paper BOY and you can’t do that right because you have A Agenda to destroy it is not right. Jeff your heart is not right . you would not know right if you fell on it! Vick Pray to God to stand with you.He will forgive man will not. your enemy will be your foot stool. God is in control and we are praying for you!!! Jeff I pray for you too!

By Jon

May 28, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Ok, MY VIEW, this is how it breaks down. People “hunt and fish” to help thin the population (fish, deer, etc) whereas others train dogs to kill. Even though I have never hunted and never will, you can’t compare the two.

By Jack

May 28, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Good column Jeff - This isn’t the AJC’s fault. If Vick is so innocent why not call a new conference and tell his side. If he really cares and has nothing to hide……. The “no comments ” and “lawyers won’t allow anything else to be said” is ringing pretty hollow right now.

FACT - half the fan base has left Vick and the other half doesn’t rent corporate suites and buy high priced season tickets. Who do you think Arther is more concerned about ????

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

No wonder people think Southerners are stupid. For anyone on here that is defending Vick and blaming this blog on inaccurate reporting by AJC, take note it’s being reported everywhere. As a former VT grad who had classes with Vick, I have defended him against everything in the past, but this I can’t. Who cares if this guy is a great athlete, he is a dispicable human being. And to poster “la”, last time I checked, animals that are hunted are overpopulated and wild, and they are certainly not bred for the sole purpose of tearing another animal to pieces. Anyone who condones Vick is just as digraceful as he is. Innocent until proven guilty I will agree with, but there seems to be more evidence daily. I hope he is kicked out of the NLF and goes to jail.

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

No wonder people think Southerners are stupid. For anyone on here that is defending Vick and blaming this blog on inaccurate reporting by AJC, take note it’s being reported everywhere. As a former VT grad who had classes with Vick, I have defended him against everything in the past, but this I can’t. Who cares if this guy is a great athlete, he is a dispicable human being. And to poster “la”, last time I checked, animals that are hunted are overpopulated and wild, and they are certainly not bred for the sole purpose of tearing another animal to pieces. Anyone who condones Vick is just as digraceful as he is. Innocent until proven guilty I will agree with, but there seems to be more evidence daily. I hope he is kicked out of the NLF and goes to jail.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:16 PM | Link to this

Jon,

Please, you’re killing me up there on your grandstand. People with common sense can see right through your OWN PERSONAL agenda.You’re willing to run the man out of town at any cost, even if there’s no legit evidence in this instance to prove wrong doing……

You know DAMN WELL what you were saying with THUG and it was not in the same context as Bertuzzi….

By la

May 28, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Scott, What about Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and Brittany Spears embarrassing the European race with their lack of intelligence and criminal behavior with engaging illegal activities such as drugs and Driving under the influence. They are not positive role models for anyone. Michael vick has never been arrested nor charged with any crimes. People kill animals everyday for the sport so I am not sure why there is a double standard for dog-fighting. I do not agree dog-fighting or hunting but I believe that Michael should is innocent until proven guilty. The AJC is disgraceful for the way they lynch successful black men in the paper without any evidence. I am ashamed to be from Atlanta because people here are so ignorant compared to other people in different states and regions. We still have not heard anything about the Patrick Kerney case where a rape took place at his house. It takes a whole nation to try to hold us back but only the strong survives.

By Titothebear

May 28, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Let this story die? There’s a whole lot more that needs to come to light and it’s not going to just go away. There’s the dogfighting aspect and there’ a gambling component that needs to be looked at. Investigating Mike Vick’s tax returns will, I feel certain, lead to evasion charges. There’s also the drug connection. Was Mike Vick involved in that part of this messy case? I think he was. His restaurant is, in all probability, nothing more than a vehicle to launder drug and dog fighting money. Vick is a criminal and he’s going away to prison. His NFL career is at an end and I’m lovin’ it. It’s all good!

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

Erin,

Got get yourself a tampon and cry me a river….What FIRST HAND, HARD evidence is there in this case????

The more all of these clowns like that informant on OTL and Banks talk through 2nd hand information and voice distorters the more I think/know Vick will walk…..

By My View

May 28, 2007 7:24 PM | Link to this

Dog Kennels are advertising now in an attempt to help w/ overcrowding kennels. I see far more dogs get hit by cars than deer. So are you people sure that you want to use thinning the population as an excuse. Also I’m sure no lake would be forcing fish to land without the help of fisherman. Just call it what it is. People have agendas. Those people who love dogs hate the idea of dogfighting. In America they have a really large constituency, therefore dogfighting is illegal.

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

whats funny is how people forget how atlanta football was before VICK,LOL i remember when i was in school if you had perfect attendance for a week u got free falcons tickets, you couldnt give that crap away,LOL. We had 2 or 3 good years but ABSOLUTELY nuthin like what we are going thru since VICK arrived in reference to morale and team spirit, there is actually a waiting list to get falcons tickets!!!

By P

May 28, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

This vick thing is not about dogfighting it’s about Vick. They want him 2 fall and the media biatches will stop at nothing 2 get him. Like we are 2 believe that Espn really gives a crap about dogfighting. Baseball and the nba must be really boring 2 run this vick story day after day with the source brothers and Mr X accusing Vick of being at dogfights. That espn piece was nothing but tabloid journalism. Why the hell did they have 2 alter MR. X’s voice 2 sound like he was constipated. He also said there were 40 nfl players involved in fighting dogs must when asked only mentioned Vick, and that biatch reporter jumped on vicks name like a fat kid loves cake. B.S they got nothing !! on Vick and KIng Kong aint got nothing on Him either!!!!!

By paul

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

I’ve posted about Michael before, and for years have defended him. So first off, the points of view that he hasn’t been indicted, let alone convicted in this case. But of course , that doesn’t mean one cannot get convicted in the court of public opinion.

I’ve felt Michael was immature for the “bird” thing, and a little bit stupid re:the watter bottle thing (which obviously was covered up, somehow), but this is LIGHT YEARS ahead of this.

Personally, I am hoping he gets cleared, and isn’t involved with this. Who really knows the truth? None of us—not really. But most of us have a gut feeling one way or another. My gut feeling is that he’s involved in this horrible, awful sport. I mean, this is a sport so heinous, it’s like a super-secret society—like an pro-incest group or something. Of course it’s secretive.

And we thought him defending his idiot brother was bad enough….How many people read the ESPN article? I did. They left a lot out of the televised report. Like the informant saying UFC is just as bad. Well, it sort of is, but at least thses guys made that choice. The pit bulls have no choice. And as for hunting—well, I don’t hunt, and I think to just kill an animal for sport or trophies is barbaric. But hunting with the purpose of eating what you kill is morally fine with me. Not my gig, but if you want to do it, fine.

But there is no viable way AT ALL to condone dog fighting. I mean, it is just the lowest.

By famuan

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Didn’t a reliable confidential informant cause a 92 year old woman to get gunned down in her own home? So now we have a man claiming to have fought dogs for 30 years, remembering that he fought one of Vick’s dogs in 2000? Are you serious? No wonder Yolonda Cameron’s letter is gaining traction around the media world. All of you are complete jokes.

By michael sanders

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

the the fools who think vick is guilty remember ray lewis.if you watched his trial nobody saw ray doing anything. one of the victim,s freinds stood next to ray the whole fight and testified to that fact.let,s just wait.and by the way how the whites on here not calling the broncos reciever a thug? i forgot he,s white

By Jon

May 28, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Sanchez, you have to realize that not everything is based on race. Sure, people like to point out race as a factor but that’s only because they can’t face the truth. I truly hope one day you can see past race and see the truth. God help you.

By David Duke

May 28, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this

Chi Chi, shouldn’t you be bending a taco somewhere?

By Dr. I.Q.

May 28, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

Falcon 30901:

You went to great lengths to say nothing.

The reality of the situation is that Vick should never have put himself in another embarrassing situation.

I will not use the word “thug” but maybe “ignorant” expresses how his behaviors are perceived by those of us who pay his exorbitant salary for mediocre production on the field and unacceptable behaviors off the field.

Inexcusable!

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this

Dirty,

I believe my comment “Innocent until proven guilty, I agree with” obviously shows that I agree he is not guilty until proven otherwise. I was stating that the actual evidence that is being reported certainly looks substaintial. Maybe before making really mature and well-thought out comments such as that tampon remark, you should read my entire posting.

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

if this guy, who claims to have been a INFORMANT over 10 years, is so crediable he should definitely have some type of video of VICK at these fights, the goverment has every damn thing else on tape,lol

By 911

May 28, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

you guys don’t think them country boys Brett Favre & the Manning brothers don’t go hunting & fishing for sport?I’m sure they are not hunting and fishing for survial because they can afford their own food.They even showed the 1st round pick for the Browns deep sea fishing on draft day.Do you think he was doing that for sport or to feed his family?Some of you rednecks probaly have a moose or a deer’s head on your fireplace mantle!Some of you rednecks hate Blacks,Mexicans,Gays etc.but you love dogs and animals.

By Titothebear

May 28, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

He’ll walk alright, perp walk!

By la

May 28, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this

Erin, I bet you feel that famine, war and disease should be used as instruments to kill off the human race due to over population too. Killing/hunting animals and dog fighting are both cruel so your logic is flawed. This is an excuse to attack this man based on his race. I can tell from the comments on this blog that most people on this blog have not owned properties with the intent on renting the properties to other people. It is very hard to monitor tenants at rental properties so that is why the lease is enforced for any activities at the property to be addressed to the tenant not the owner. Otherwise, a lot of owners would be in jail if they were responsible for the behaviors of their family or tenants.

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:38 PM | Link to this

Jon,

I realize not everything is based off of race, but right or wrong, whenever Vick is brought up as a topic of discussion race in some way, shape or form winds up as a factor, which is very unfortunate.

I didn’t mean to seem like such a pill about the whole THUG thing but it is a big deal b/c of the connotation in certain circles. In a lot of circles it’s being used in place of the N-word, so that’s why I responded like that and I apologize for that…..

By Roni

May 28, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

AJC needs to focus on the real criminals—the APD. I don’t care if Vick is dogfighting—I will still look at every game every Sunday as long as he is in Atlanta. Say what you want but nobody was at any Falcons games until Vick came. Do we dare forget that in ATL games were not shown on TV because they couldn’t sell out the dome—how soon they forget.It may be illegal but it isn’t that big of a deal except to dog lovers—which I am not.Get over it—they are freaking dogs—gimme me a break.

By prophetho

May 28, 2007 7:43 PM | Link to this

I still wanna see feds go after this kid for killing this HOG in alabama!!!

By Dirty Sanchez

May 28, 2007 7:44 PM | Link to this

Erin,

Maybe you could explain this to me, exactly HOW does second hand sources, informants who talk through voice distorter’s and hear say make the basis of hard core/condemning evidence….b/c as I see it the hard evidence is missing just as much as the innocent til proven guilty part is to this entire situation……

By Jay

May 28, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this

Right on 911! I wonder if ole Schultztie is a animal lover too…you know…for him to come back on a holiday to post this crap. Not all people like hunting deers, rabbits, possum, turkey…killing period. But, they are ready to throw a man under the bus IF he’s associated with dog FIGHTING! As long as it’s their way…they’re fine.

By Falcon4Life

May 28, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this

All of you who keep aligning dog-fighting with blacks, be prepared to hate this activity just a much when you realize that 99.9% of dog-fighting enthusiasts are WHITE. Where did i get my stats? From an un-named, undisclosed reliable source. Be prepared to drag all of your attorney, doctor, politician “upstanding citizen” fathers, grandfathers and business leaders through the same mud that you wish to drag M. Vick through.

By Falcon4Life

May 28, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

All of you who keep aligning dog-fighting with blacks, be prepared to hate this activity just a much when you realize that 99.9% of dog-fighting enthusiasts are WHITE. Where did i get my stats? From an un-named, undisclosed reliable source. Be prepared to drag all of your attorney, doctor, politician “upstanding citizen” fathers, grandfathers and business leaders through the same mud that you wish to drag M. Vick through.

By DHD

May 28, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

Sucking the brains out of a baby while still in the “protection” of it’s mother is legal, but don’t mess with dogs.

While I’m not for animals fighting, it just shows how screwed up we have become.

That said….please make a deal for Trent Green because we are going to need a QB.

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this

La,

First of all, i was not defending or condoning hunting, I was merely pointing out the difference between that and dog fighting. So, no my logic isn’t flawed. I abhor hunting and do not believe in it at all. To your second point, anyone who owns a property should be responsible enough to maintain it, and that means knowing what is going on in your own house, whether you live in it or not. I have two rental properties, one on different coast and I can assure you I know what is going on in each of them. Its one thing to not know your tenants are dirty and don’t know how to clean, it is quite another to not know your home is being used illegally to run a large illegal operation.

Also, your remark about using this as excuse to attack him based on race is incredulous and ridiculous. If evidence against Tom Brady or Peyton Manning came regarding dog fighting, people would be reacting the exact same way. Anyone who believes differently has an ax to grind with something completely unrelated to dog-fighting.

By P

May 28, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

Danny Heatley got drunk killed a team mate but he walked, Jason Willams Got drunk shot and killed his limo driver and he walked, Ray lewis and his boys fought and killed 2 people superbowl week and he walked, Kobe bryant alleged stole some white womans booty and he walked, leonard little got drunk and killed a woman in st louis and he walked ,oj was accused of killing 2 people and he walked, patrick kerney;s boys rape a chick in his house and nobody was charged and you people want 2 run your most winning QB out of town for allegedly being linked 2 fighting pitbulls…DAMN …DAMN!! NO WONDER YOUR SORRY A* TEAMS NEVER WIN!!!

By chipdip

May 28, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

hang him from a tree.

By UnHappyFan

May 28, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

Talking about image one wonders..

Suppose M.Vick was a VP of sort at a major company, like (lets say) Home Depot. I believe that an executive indicated with such activity would be on leave, or even suspended pending the investigation.

The company would want to create distance from the issue and it’s image and public perception.

Blank has screwed up big time (again) imho. He actually may have managed to pull Vick in closer to both him and the team.

Even if M. Vick cannot be charged the damage to the Falcons/NFL has been done. Who will sponsor him/them after this? Home Depot???

By Erin

May 28, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

Dirty,

I wasn’t referring to the informant, more to the 60+ pitbulls and dog-fighting paraphanalia found at the house. Also testimony from animal control and Humane society personnel that he has been a suspect for a long time. As I mentioned in my last post to “La”, you do not own a property and rent it out and not know what is going on. It’s one thing to have a crappy tentant who is a slob and doesn’t pay his rent on time, it is quite another to have someone running an illegal gambling ring out of it. Ignorance is not an excuse to break the law, since so far that has been the only excuse Vick has made. He didn’t know what was going on in the house, even though the tenant was a relative… BULLS*IT!!!

By kevina

May 28, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this

Anyone who doesn’t think dog fighting is sick is a sick bastard.

By delavago scruggs

May 28, 2007 7:57 PM | Link to this

For all of these folks here that is saying wait for the evidence, excuse me. The evidence is mounting and the hammer is about to fall. He hasn’t been charged, indicted or anything yet; however, I give them 2 weeks.
But if you own the house where fights go on, yo’ve been seen at various dog fights, you have people who have sold you the very dogs tha are used in the fight, all that is left is someone to finger him. If it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a damn duck, guess what, its a duck!

By David Duke

May 28, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this

The only tthing more surprising than Vick’s stupidity is the vapid nature of those who support him. I’ve never encountered greater ignorance than I’ve seen from the uneducated supporters of this soon to be felon. That, however, is to be expected from the dark side.

By Paul

May 28, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

Mike Vicks “fans” will insist he is innocent even if there is a tape showing him refereeing a dog fight. They dont care if he committed a felony just like they didnt care that OJ “the slasher” Simpson committed murder. Dont try to talk logically to these people. They cannot comprehend. I hope Mr. Blank who wants the Falcons to be thought of as an organization the city is proud of and that has good quality people (like Dunn) knows that Vick will continue to pull stunts like this. Maybe when the corporate suite guys start cancelling season tickets Mr. Blank will get the message. Vick is a mini Mike Tyson just waiting to happen. Do the fans who buy tickets for the Falcons games a favor Mr. Blank and get rid of this plague or we will just quit coming to see your “family atmosphere” at the Georgia Dome.

By UnHappyFan

May 28, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

I should add that sponsor is where the Falcons and NFL’s pain points are. I’m not suggesting the time is right, nor any action yet needed. But all it would take is a very large and vocal group of people to convince company X and company Y not to spend any money.

We’d see big changes and very fast.

By Ed Amiss Jr

May 28, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this

Mike WILL play this season and have his best year. Get rid of political correctness. No charges. People (ESPN) that want to see Mick fall might as well get out of line. Ain’t gonna happen.

By Embarrassed by MV

May 28, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is an embarrassment to Atlanta, the NFL, and the Atlanta Falcons. He should be banned from the NFL.

By P.J.

May 28, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

Wow, I sure hope these Vick apologists are licensed to practice law in Georgia because if they can defend me (in case the feds ever bust me for my profligate poker playing - I won ten dollars from my buddies the other night) with all the fervor of defending Vick, I want them on my side. And with the eloquence and righteousness with which they’re urging due process, they remind me of real-life Atticus Finches—all of ‘em.

That said, with everything else he’s done and the way with which he carries himself, Michael Vick is still a turd of a human being. He’d only be worse if he deliberately applied faulty intelligence and lies in a harebrained scheme to gain hegemonic control of Middle East oil fields for all his buddies…and make all his opponents appear too feeble to protect this country, hence frightening everyone to back him.

Happy Memorial Day!

By Atlanta Hawks #1 Fan

May 28, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this

AJC sucks. Reporting sucks. You guys can’t tell facts from fiction. Stop reporting this story until you have your facts. In a court of law, the AJC would be prosecuted for slander and the journalist would lose their jobs. What a sorry profession to be in when all you do is report on the negative aspects of life and people.

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By la

May 28, 2007 8:12 PM | Link to this

Erin, Your logic is flawed when you minimize the seriousness of animal cruelty pertaining to hunting by justifying it due to overpopulation of animals. I own several properties so I am not at the locations all the time. Owners are not responsible for their tenants behavior because some people appear to be good people but you have to evict them due to non-payments,criminal activity or violations of the lease agreements. Unfortunately, race is used as an excuse in this country to oppress people. I think that racism is an abomination to God because all people are created equal. I do not believe that Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would be attacked like this. Just read the comments on this blog from people attacking Michael Vick with stereotypical racial slurs such as thug,n**** and drug-dealer. They have not found any drugs on that property at all. The perceptions of African-Americans is negative especially in Georgia so there is a double-standard. you would know this if you were African-American.

By lbean

May 28, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

How many times does this guy need to screw up before something is done? One of the highest paid athletes…what kind of role model do we have here for the kids in Atlanta? Falcons mgt -smarten up!

By philly fan

May 28, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this

vick is done!!! he sucks anyways, atl you shot yourself by trading scuab

By philly fan

May 28, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this

vick is done!!! he sucks anyways, atl you shot yourself by trading your back up to houston

By Billy Otwell

May 28, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

Yes, Innocent until proven guilty. But his actions to this point make him look guilty. I hope the Falcons corner office is not waiting around to see what happens. Someone who is not staring severe NFL punishment in the face needs to be groomed to the throw a football and fast.

By no answer

May 28, 2007 8:30 PM |