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Trading up for Johnson a bad idea
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Flowery Branch — Like any other NFL general manager, there are two things you can count on from Rich McKay before a draft: 1) He is not going to tell you his plans; 2) If he does tell you his plans, he’s probably lying.
But when McKay twice used the word “critical” Wednesday when addressing the Falcons’ draft this weekend, it wasn’t smoke, at least not smoke emanating from a charred cornerback.
The last two Falcons teams started a collective 11-4 but finished 4-13. Consistent fizzles are never about one player, or one coordinator, or one head coach. It’s indicative of bigger issues. Questionable talent. A lack of depth. Bad drafts. Bad choices in free agency. Salary cap fumbles. Character. Especially character.
Yes, this is a critical draft for the Falcons. Because of that, the last thing that really makes sense is to package a bunch of assets to move up and take a wide receiver, even if that receiver is Calvin Johnson. It’s nothing against Johnson. He’s an amazing talent and an even better kid. But the only teams that should consider pooling picks and players to draft a receiver are teams that are fairly well set.
We don’t know what the Falcons are. We only know what they aren’t. Set.
Notwithstanding advances in offensive and defensive schemes by several creative football minds over the past 50 years, even the most egomaniacal of coaches will tell you the sport still comes down to blocking and tackling. The Falcons don’t do either particularly well.
Drafting Calvin Johnson wouldn’t change that. It would be like carpeting a barn.
They need someone to block.
They need someone to tackle.
They need someone to act as Michael Vick’s personal skycap, because, like, the dude has serious airport issues.
The Falcons may not be rebuilding as much as they are razing. The new coach, Bobby Petrino, wants to tear down any remnants of an offense that can’t convert a third-and-one. He needs bigger offensive linemen. Alex Gibbs, the departed line coach, seemingly was given more autonomy than his head coach (Jim Mora), and he convinced McKay to bring in smaller, quicker blockers.
Smaller they got. Quickness and blocking, not so much. Now, with Wayne Gandy, P.J. Alexander, Todd McClure, Tyson Clabo and Todd Weiner, the team has a line that can neither pass block nor run block with much efficiency.
The defensive line isn’t merely bad. It has become a punch line. Patrick Kerney fled in free agency. John Abraham was an icebag with ears last season. Grady Jackson says he wants to come back but he also wants a new contract and, oh yes, he’s suing the team. Right. Farewell, fatboy.
Jonathan Babineaux has a dead dog hanging over his head. If Babineaux wanted a tamer dog, he should’ve looked around the locker room.
Defensive tackle Rod Coleman has become the closest thing to a sign of stability, which is a problem because Coleman and stability generally do not intersect (see: legal).
Petrino says Jimmy Williams, who hasn’t proven his coverage ability is even good enough to play safety, will start at the more demanding position of cornerback. A safety is needed to replace the maligned Chris Crocker and support Lawyer Milloy. And somewhere along the way, somebody needs to remind DeAngelo Hall that his next stop actually may not be Canton.
Calvin Johnson? Great player. But this team needs more. Shouldn’t we frame a house before we decorate it?
Barring trades, the Falcons will have seven picks in the first four rounds, including four of the first 75 selections. They shouldn’t trade up for one body. If anything, they should trade down to accumulate more heartbeats.
This will be a telling draft for McKay. His reputation has taken some dings, especially since the departure of his personnel chief, Tim Ruskell, to Seattle. A team that’s further along can afford to leap for one star. But that’s not this bunch. McKay seems to acknowledge as much.
“We like the fact we have 10 picks,” he said. “We need to fill the depth on our roster, and this is a good year for us to do it.”
Because even before a draft, there are some things you just can’t hide.
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By Matt
April 25, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this
I read that Don Banks on Sports Illustrated.com said that the Falcons might trade up to the number 2 spot for Calvin. That would be a really stupid move. We have too many other needs.
By Matt is a dumbass
April 25, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this
Matt, you are stupid. Schultz I see where you are coming from, Laron Landry is a secondary stud, and we need some other positions also, our O line will be awful, Our D line will be decent, where Levi, Jamall Anderson or Gaines would help, but probably wouldn’t fall to eight. Yes, I am a huge, huge Tech fan but still. This guy is a once in a generation talent. He absolutely dominated the college game, with a no good quarterback until Taylor stepped in vs WVU, but seriously. His catch vs NC State, behind the back, Freshman Year, absolutely Nasty. I could name a quick highlight reel in about 3 minutes, but I’ll save you the time. The Kid is incredible, we might need more positions, but he is a once in a generation talent. He will help vick tremendously, he will take focus and open up some other wide receivers, he would change our offensive game from a b- to an A in a matter of a year or two. Learn your football matt, before you sound like an idiot.
By Disco Inferno Poker Game
April 25, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
Trading up is not a good move BUT We do have a lot of picks. I say trade down and get more picks. Also, yes our receivers were terrible last year. BUT they always say (for most) it takes 3 years for a receiver to start producing in the NFL. I hope White, Jenkins, etc start producing. Also, don’t just draft Johnson to fill seats Blank. It won’t matter if Vick still can’t hit him. One more thing…can someone help Vick to get on time my God!
By dan
April 25, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this
Trading up is a bad idea….it’s about time you got it right….Calvin Johnson only resolves one issue, and that is only if the “playmaker” can stop and throw. Somebody needs to remind us the that it’s DEFENSE that makes the difference and wins superbowls. The Falcons need defensive playmakers, because God himself knows Lawyer Malloy can’t do it all this year again. I hope we get our hand on Laron Landry and a good defensive end. Nevermind another reciever, get a good lineman to give Mike time to throw to the recievers we have. This is going to be one of the most interesting and exciting drafts the birds have had in years. Get it right Mr. McKay. Bird fans are tired of excuses and losing.
By Matthew At The SLC
April 25, 2007 9:01 PM | Link to this
All of these idiots like Don Banks and Mel Kiper, Jr. are ignoring the one thing that would prevent the Falcons from moving up (which I believe the desperately, and stupidly want to do): CAP ROOM. As in a lack of it. The Falcons don’t have enough cap space to sign a top-5 draft pick. It is just not on te radar. The important thing for the Falcons is to find four NFL starters with their first four picks in the top 3 rounds. And they can do it. Here’s who the Falcons need to pick:
1st Round (8): Okoyie DT from Louisville. He’s a freak and will combine with Coleman to give us an unbeatable middle to the D-line
2nd Round (40): Merriwether FS from Miami. He’s the starter we need that we couldn’t pick up in Landry because our need on the line was more.
2nd Round (42): Johnson DE from Georgia. He’s a guy you can pencil in on the other side of Abraham. He’s ten times more talented than the guys we have on the roster at the position (besides Abraham), and will be a steal at 42.
3rd Round (75): Bush RB from Louisville. We need a hammer. Bush is that hammer that Duckett never was. Duckett was soft, bring consistantly brought down by arm tackles and behind the line. Bush runs people over, and picking him in the 3rd round doesnt’ carry a whole lot of risk.
We need a starter which each one of these picks. And these are the guys who can step in and start right away.
By Dominic Hughes
April 25, 2007 9:10 PM | Link to this
Good column Jeff. There are some harsh truths in there, but they’re more true than harsh. And you’re right about Johnson. I like the carpet/barn analogy. I’d been describing it as having the flashiest wheels on a rusting car that doesn’t run. The Falcons can’t afford to pay another WR what Johnson would command anyhow. And while I think Johnson will go well in the NFL, there have been plenty of “can’t miss” WRs turn into busts in recent years. See Charlie Rogers.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 25, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this
As much as it amazes me to say this, Jeff Schultz is right… to an extent. Really, it’s too soon to tell whether the Falcons should trade up or not. What do you do, for example, if the Raiders pick Russell, the Lions pick Quinn, the Browns pick Peterson, and for some reason the Bucs pick Gaines Adams or Joe Thomas? Maybe not likely, but not inconceivable either. All of a sudden, Calvin Johnson is sitting three picks ahead of you, and trading up isn’t so hard.
I agree that the Falcons have a lot more needs than wide receiver, and giving up three or four picks from this year’s draft to get Calvin at #2 or #3 isn’t a good idea. The Falcons can still get a guy who can make a short-term and long-term impact at #8. But Calvin sliding is not completely out of the question. It’s happened before with supposedly can’t miss prospects (for example Matt Leinart last year) and it could easily happen again. The Falcons should go into the draft keeping their options open regarding moving up. I’d say trading up for Calvin is worth it if Calvin slips to #4 or beyond.
By Jay
April 25, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this
Calling Grady “fatboy” shows everyone how CLASSLESS Schultz is.
By Matthew At The SLC
April 25, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this
Poop, you’re full of poop.
Johnson isn’t going to slide, even though he’s more likely to be a bust (because of his lack of production against big time athletes from big time schools) than a superstar. Washington is salivating for him, and so is Tampa. Washington picks 6, and is the most likely team to move up to 2 to take him. If they don’t, Tampa will take him at 4. Give it up. Johnson will not be wearing a Falcons uniform next year, and I’m not broken up about it.
By Matthew,Custodian At The SLC
April 25, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this
what we need most is a quarterback!
By ERIC
April 25, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this
the falcons will get who ever vick approves of!
this team is whats wrong with the nfl.
Mike Vick must go before we become a complete team again.
By Matt is a Dumbass
April 25, 2007 9:29 PM | Link to this
Matthew at the SLC, im glad you copied some mock drafts offlline buddy. Infact I’m almost positive i saw that mock today, glad you can read and write there, once again, hardly anybody here knows what they are talking about
By Jason
April 25, 2007 9:57 PM | Link to this
CALVIN JOHNSON IS A ONCE IN A DECADE TALENT!!!
I would rather go 4-12 with Calvin Johnson next year and reload in 2008 than go 9-7 in 2007 without him.
By singletary
April 25, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this
Now that was funny. “Personal skycap” is an apt description of MV7’s needs in an airport…and I’m a Vick fan.
I was OFFENDED by TMoore’s rant and personal assault on Vick because it didn’t take into consideration of all the things that could have innocently gone wrong. (And no one can control the airlines, including their staffs, apparently. Jet Blue for 10 hours, anyone?) Find something insightful to write about the GAME or the TEAM instead of minor off field issues for your WHOLE COLUMN.
I’m broken up inside about not going for CJ (read Heinz Ward II) but we do have more pressing needs and no salary cap room.
Sign me, Resigned.
By Finchdawg
April 25, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this
Jeff, I agree. There are just too many holes to trade that far up. Matt (at top) is right about Banks’ article on SI.com. Apparently Blank is really pushing this idea. Here’s the link: text to be linked Yikes! I can imagine the introduction for the starting lineups on the home opener now… “Starting on defensive line, Chauncey Davis, Tommy Jackson, Rod Coleman, and Paul Carrington.” Just say no to Mr. Blank, Rich!
By Matt
April 25, 2007 9:59 PM | Link to this
Actually you look like the only one who doesn’t know what they are talking about. Pathetic.
By Expert
April 25, 2007 10:09 PM | Link to this
Dwayne Jarrett in the 2nd round and RB Tony hunt in the 3rd round maybe?
By Brandon
April 25, 2007 10:38 PM | Link to this
The Falcons should try to trade down (Rams and Steelers are looking to move up) and pick up an extra 3rd round pick…..then package that 3rd and a 2nd to move to the bottom of te 1st (Cowboys would like to move down)….They could take Carriker or Branch high, then Joe Staley later to get great value w/2 high needs. Either Meriweather or Griffin will still be there for their other #2. They could go for a WR w/their #2 (Gonzalez, Jarrett, or Rice will be there) and take Weddle in round 3…..They also need a kicker later and Medlock would be a great pick.
By Wilbur Gorilla
April 25, 2007 10:42 PM | Link to this
Every year the Falcons take a run through the retarded forest and smack into every tree. Why?
By FALCON30901
April 25, 2007 10:45 PM | Link to this
1st Laundry with the news to peterson i dont think he will still be avalible at 8.. 2nd offensive lineman. 2nd defensive lineman. 3rd defensive lineman. if with our first 4 picks we come up with a combination of 4 defensive/offensive lineman i will be ohh so happy. 4th if bush is still there grab him. we dont have the rb that we need, but we have alot of talent at that postion. pick fastest wide reciever or cornerback prospect if bush is gone. fill out the rest of the draft with special team/backup guys LB’s, corners, wide reciever. speed is something that you cant teach. if we can find productive guys with speed then we need to grab them. my theory is that we need beef up front and speed at some skilled positions. its amazing how much the jets improved with the drafting of some beef up front. give our play makers time to make plays on both sides of the ball. we have a offensive coordinator that will come in with more than 8 plays in his play book. he will call more than 15 pass plays a game. he will give the qb a chance to audible. he will actually have a feel for the game. its amazing how easy the game of football is too coach.
By SC
April 25, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this
Jeff, I can agree with you and I can disagree with you. The key questions are in what time frame do you want to build a winning team and if that time frame is greater than a year, does a move for Calvin become worthwhile? You may claim the answer to the second question is a categorical ‘yes’. I think the answer depends on the price of the trade, which isn’t so clear in midst of all the smokescreens.
By ryan
April 25, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this
CJ is definatly worth trading up for… schultz doesnt realize that we were leading our division the last two years until we started getting injuries, and these are things that make or break a season. you can make a team deeper but theres really no way to predict it… and we are not looking for starters… but guess what!, CJ can step right in and make an instant impact!.. and i can speak for any atlanta fan to say that i would love to see michael vick and calvin johnson on the same field!
Jeff Schultz, your an idiot!! start living a little bit and think about the rest of atlanta fans!, what would they want to see?
Rich McKay, get to work man… clock is ticking… you will be the hero if you could pull it off!
By volstar
April 25, 2007 11:00 PM | Link to this
The last thing Atlanta should do is trade down. Not in this draft. The talent is all in the upper part of the first round. If you want a difference maker you cannot trade down. This is somewhat of a weak draft but Atlanta can get a difference maker at #8 and I think I would rather have 1 difference maker than 2 decent guys in the second round.
How much would Johnson help this team…he is a great player but so was Peerless Price. We already have 2 #1 draft choices, Crumpler, Finneran and now Horn. You can’t put all your eggs at WR with so many other glaring needs. Johnson is a great draw but the Falcons have Vick and he is always going to fill the Dome as long as he is here.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 25, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this
Birddawg at the SLC, you need to take off the red-and-black colored shades, put down the kibble-flavored Kool-Aid and try to analyze players objectively. I’m a Tech fan and I think DJ Shockley has a bright future in the NFL — it’s not asking too much for you to give props to a Tech player. In the NFL, nobody gives a damn what college you are from. It takes a real closed-minded Dawg to not see the talent Calvin Johnson has. The only people I have come across who don’t think Calvin will be an NFL superstar are coincidentally Dawg fans.
Like I said, it’s not likely that he’ll slide, but it is possible. And as long as that possibility exists, the Falcons should consider trading up as an option.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 25, 2007 11:15 PM | Link to this
Also, the only reason I think trading up wouldn’t be a bad idea is because the Falcons have 10 picks this year and 8 next year. It’s possible that the Falcons could trade their first-rounder, one of their second-rounders, one of their fourth-rounders, and one of next year’s second rounders to move up to #4… and still have 9 picks this year and 7 picks next year. I would be completely opposed to trading up if they hadn’t made the Schaub trade. But the abundance of draft picks makes it a realistic possibility.
By mowreck
April 25, 2007 11:18 PM | Link to this
To Matthew At The SLC: I agree with your first TWO picks, but not numbers 3 & 4. I think we need to try to get a couple of Offensive Lineman instead of a DE and RB. I mean we have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds … plus the RB from Louisville might just be there after 4 rounds.
By jay
April 25, 2007 11:21 PM | Link to this
hey calvin johnson is the man… at the very least he’d sell a lot of jerseys.
By dna
April 25, 2007 11:27 PM | Link to this
No Trades just go with the picks you got. Make the first three count, no misses this year. DT,DE,RB,DB,OT,MLB
By Timothy
April 25, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this
Smoking a little weed is not a character issue. Beating a dog to death IS a CHARACTER ISSUE. It is nothing to joke about.
By Peter
April 26, 2007 12:14 AM | Link to this
Somebody else gets it. Blank and McKay are responsible for this roster. We ended up sending our #15 pick last year and Kerney for Abe who couldn’t get on the field.
As for last seasons draft who actually played and contributed? Blame Vick all you want but name one, one top pick that we have along the OL or DL.
Of any LB in the NFL Brooking needs big linemen in front of him. Hell half of the time our QB doesn’t even have time to set up in a pocket. Trade down, drafting CJ is putting pearls on a swine.
We resign two of the smaller OLinemen and then change to a coach who wants bigger linemen. Brilliant. And to hear Forney tell it the late season collapses may be due in part to hunger pains.
Blank didn’t even attend the Cam Cameron interview. Petrino was their man from the start. Why? Tell me one player that McKay has brought in who can even hope to sniff a pro bowl.
If Vick’s injured before the season we go into it with Joey Harrington as our starter. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. NOT YOU MICHAEL, IT WAS A JOKE!
By Joe Coon
April 26, 2007 12:25 AM | Link to this
Jeff: This time you are right on the money. I can’t argue with one word (much less those hilarious humer remarks) you said.
Right on buddy.
For what it’s worth, the Falcons will take either Levi Brown, Jamal Anderson or Leron Landry with the number eight pick Saturday - if they don’t trade down a few picks - in which case you may see a Reggie Nelson or a Charles Johnson, Adam Carricker (sorry about the spelling if it’s not correct - it’s late), or possibly even the Hall kid from Michigan taken. Either way…OT, DE or DB is going to be the pick and I would be pleased if any of these guys were on our team.
By Snake
April 26, 2007 12:26 AM | Link to this
Tampa under no circumstances would trade with the Falcons!
By Ole Man Bourbon
April 26, 2007 12:48 AM | Link to this
With so many holes to fill, I agree that trading up for a WR makes little sense. Particularly when our passing game (QB, pass protection, etc) is still a bit unsettled.
10 picks is a lot though. How many guys can you sign from one draft? I just wonder how much value most of those picks really have. I’d love to see us add a late 1st-round pick if at all possible.
OL, DL, LB, DB. Egad lots of holes.
By Matthew at the SLC
April 26, 2007 1:32 AM | Link to this
I think we should take all Georgia players plus a couple of other SEC players.
There are plenty of THUGS from FLA who can keep Vick company. Maybe the Falcons can make a rap CD for all of the fans to enjoy while they tailgate.
By surfrider
April 26, 2007 1:43 AM | Link to this
The Falcons need a spark, a playmaker and one who has character. There is only one person that fits that is high in draft that can play right away. It’s Johnson. Character and sparks fly. Any good coach will first work on the character and disclipline of the team then worry about the talent. Ask O’leary. Ask the New England coach. Ask Bobby Ross. Don Shula and Tom Landry know something about this as well as does the old Steelers in the 70’s. Vick with a playmaker at wideout makes Vick even better.
By 40 years and a mule
April 26, 2007 1:51 AM | Link to this
Mr. Blank it would take a miracle to make this team a winner—- so make a donation(a big one). In the current market, I’m recommending you SELL the foulcons and BUY the BRAVES. Also,get Bobby Cox to donate some spermozoid for the next generation manager and incubate it IMMEDIATELY.
By volstar
April 26, 2007 2:34 AM | Link to this
One thing has become clear to me after looking into the background of Petino. The Falcons are bringing in a man who is going to put some major discipline into this team. He is a definate butt kicker and I think this team needs someone like that…..so don’t worry about discipline, Petino will demand it. Off topic I know, but factor that into the equation on draft day. Petino probably has a good idea on who he can trust and who he will need to replace.
Having said that are there any players I hope we stay away from……yes. I am not sold on Levi Brown, he is too inconsistent, great one play and horrible the next. Jamaal Anderson scares me as well with only 19 career starts at DE and his techniques are so flawed it may take some time to get him up to speed. I see bust all over this guy.
By Matthew At The SLC
April 26, 2007 3:04 AM | Link to this
Taking a break from an all-nighter at the SLC and thought I’d check this board. Wow… we have some really dumb people here. For the last time, the Falcons DO NOT HAVE THE CAP SPACE TO SIGN A TOP-5 PICK AND FILL ALL OF THE HOLES THEY NEED TO FILL IN ORDER TO COMPETE THIS YEAR. I’m sorry for shouting, but some of you people really need to grasp the fact that the NFL has a hard salary cap and that the Falcons are up against it. To the dude who thinks everyone named Matt is a dumb@$$, get a life. I’ve had these ideas for the last couple of weeks, and if others in “expert” positions are thinking similar thoughts, doesn’t that mean I actually know what I’m talking about? Davenpoop, I’m not taking anything away from Johnson. He’ll go high, and make lots of money. But Mike Williams, Ashlie Lelie, Charles Rodgers, and many, many other wideouts have been can’t miss, too. Add that to the fact that Johnson had the propensity to disapear against good teams with good players (which could be some of the QB’s fault as well), and well, that’s troubling. And dude, the name’s Matthew. I don’t hide myself behind a nickname, so don’t create one for me. I don’t even like to hunt.
And finally, to mowreck, I understand where you’re coming from, but we desperately need to replace Kerney in order to generate a pass rush. Johnson fills that need for an instant starter. We also need a beefier running back to work in Petrino’s system, and also because at least for this year because of our crappy o-line, we need a running back who can consistantly break through first tackles. Bush fills that need. Also, the reason for those four I posted is because we need four starters. You could put Levi Brown in Okoyie’s place, but Brown at 8 is a reach, and Okoyie at 8 would be a steal. Add that to the fact that our d-line is more of a mess than our admitadly crappy o-line, then you HAVE to take Okoyie (and yes, I am aware I am probably butchering the kid’s name, get over it). Drafting guys for the o-line in the 3rd round and even in the second round is not going to produce immediate starters for this team. The guys I pointed out would start right away, and the more holes we can fill, the easier it’ll be for this team. Unfortunately, the Falcons just have too many holes to fill. But they need to fill them where they can. Thus my idea for their first four picks.
By bulldawgin4life
April 26, 2007 4:08 AM | Link to this
i agree with Matthew but lets be real.. theres no chance we can get calvin in the 07 draft. teams with salary cap money, will be pulling donald trump deals trying to steal mr. johnson by the 2nd pick. thanks to vick and Abraham, hell we might not be able to sign this year picks(falcons ARE BROKE!) with that said, WE NEED RUN SUPPORT. yes run stoppers, players up the middle to stop teams from chewing up the clock for the go-head touchdown with seconds reminding(remember panthers, lions, gaints, bucs, etc. etc. true fans get the picture!)
1st pick: dt(okoye/l’ville) 2nd pick: dt,(Doughty/s.carolina or harrell/tennessee) even bigger
2nd pick: cb(ross/texas) 3rd pick: ilb(siler/florida)RUN STUFFER
we can address the offense on sunday, inwhich we might can find a diamond in the ruff by drafting linemen
By Gunner
April 26, 2007 4:45 AM | Link to this
I believe in Football you start with the line,both O-line and D-Line. The draft should go likewise.
By DawgNLville
April 26, 2007 7:06 AM | Link to this
Yes, CJ is a freak and will certainly be a superstar in the nfl. BUT, the falcons have other needs. Instead of trading up to get CJ, they should stock up on other needs. My suggestion, address the Oline or take Okoye (if he’s there at 8). Use the second round picks to grab a good safety and a DE. Maybe we get lucky and get a crack at Bush at RB in the third. THEN - take a long look (next year) at one of the few cornerbacks to completely dominate mr. calvin johnson - Mr. Paul Oliver.
By JSS
April 26, 2007 7:41 AM | Link to this
Just a quick note, one you look at the real winners in this league, their O-lines are not built on high round picks, their maybe 1 or 2 in the mix, but it is generally mid rounds and funny not from the big D-I schools. The Pats, the Steelers, and the Colts, look at the rosters… Bill Walsh proved it when he “reached” for Jerry Rice. You don’t pass on Canton… Cut, print, move to the next shot…
Oh, Jeff Schu;tz is still a NO TALENT HACK!!! By the way, you John Kincade wannabe, Coleman has kept his nose clean for three years, get over it… Stick to your guns Big Grady, they don’t pay you to be skinny, good luck with your next team, we all know there is no such thing as forgiveness in Georgia unless your name is Davis, Lee, Talmadge, Dooley, Perdue, Gingrich, Skandalakis, Kincade, or possibly Jeff Schultz…
By hirsutedawg
April 26, 2007 7:41 AM | Link to this
Matt, well said. If there is an idiot on this post it would be Matt is a DA. This team has WAY to many holes to fill to look at trading up for Johnson (who never beat UGA btw). The Falcons have never shown a propensity for drafting local kids anyway. Please, Tech “fans” stop with the draft (insert name here) and look at what’s best long term for our organization. Matt is a DA is a dope.
By Barry
April 26, 2007 7:49 AM | Link to this
Hey Yall:
Here we go again with this negative talking local sportswriter at the AJC down rating our local sports team. Hey this sucker Schultz is talking about the Falcons as if they lost every game they had last year. Where was he all last year? Was he realy watching the Atlanta Falcons. If any of us can pull up our memory, we must remember the Falcons were in every game last year. There losses came on questionalble playcalling by the coaches, especially in the last 2 years. The offensive led the league in rushing for 2 years and the defense had deficiencies due to injuries. Therefore injuries and playcalling hurt the Falcons and the still were not at the bottom of the heap in league play. The Falcons have a wealth of talent on that team. It is up to the coaches to us them right. They have depth also. This knucklehead Schultz is definitely showing that he knows nothing. Irepeat nothing about football, especially these ATlanta Falcons. I am telling you Atlanta fans and the AJC, we must get this type of reporting out of our sports community. It appears the type of negative reporting by Schultz, Terrance, Bradley, etc. is designed to ereode the fan base down here in Atlanta. It is like they are working for another city or another team. It appears they want to create a climate were our local sports teams are booed during home games and ostracized in the community. I pray that the AJC get rid of this type of local sports writing. As a service to the community, you should at least do that. We are your consumers and we do not like what is being written about our local sports team by these writers. If anything they should be encouraging and inspiring our teams not tearing them down. “Life and death is in the power of the tongue”. These writers are using “the power of the tongue and pen” to create “death” to our local sports team. We need local sports writers who are going to bring them life to our local professional teams not death. Please AJC, get rid of these writers. They are a cancer to our sports community. Someone at the AJC, please save us.
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KICK BUTT THIS YEAR!!!!!!!
SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! This is a SECRET. Tell EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ringold
By Reynard
April 26, 2007 7:50 AM | Link to this
Mr.Blank, Please don’t mess this one up! With 3 early draft picks you can make your team strong. If you spend too much to get Calvin you will further weaken your team. He’s good but not worth it. Do the right thing and fill the many needs you have instead of only one.
By bugger
April 26, 2007 7:56 AM | Link to this
Don’t know why it took so long for this to occur to me. But Petrino is going to be just like Spurrier in the pros. Remember Shane Matthews, Danny Wuerrfel, and all those crappy UF wide receivers Spurrier hauled into Washington? Same thing’s going to happen here, only with even crappier Louisville players. The Falcons are going to really suck in about two years, and maybe this year if former Cardinal Redman plays a lot.
By PSack
April 26, 2007 8:08 AM | Link to this
WHATEVER YOU DO MCKAY DO NOT LET TAMPA BAY GET CALVIN!!!!
DO NOT LET TAMPA GET CALVIN!!
DO NOT LET TAMPA GET CALVIN!!
DO NOT LET TAMPA GET CALVIN!!
By Muggsy1
April 26, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this
I agree we have plenty of needs, but the most compelling reason to go get Johnson is to keep Tampa Bay from getting him. If he goes to TB he will beat us twice a year for ten years just like Jerry Rice did.
By destin
April 26, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this
can somebody give me the web site that shows each players salary, signing bonus structure, salary cap implications, etc.? We don’t even know how many players the Falcons plan on cutting after June 1st (i.e. Webster, Rossum, Grady, etc.). If there is a site where we could see all the players as a group and how all the combined salarys and bonuses add up, it would be easier to acess trades and other moves.
By Doc
April 26, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this
Drafting up to get Calvin is the smartest move this franchise could make. Calvin is a local superstar within reach which may never happen in our lifetimes again. Falcon management can either draft 10 no-names who will probably be gone in 4 years or bite the bullet and get Calvin who will become THE FRANCHISE once the Vick experiment ends. I would be surprised if Vick is still a Falcon by the summer of 08’. Calvin is not only a key building block but he is the local superstar you can re-build the franchise around. The Falcons are in rebuilding mode and I would be surprised if they seriously compete for anything in the next 2-3 years. Why not start the new era with Calvin “seat seller” Johnson?
By John Chambers
April 26, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
Maybe Calvin can play both ways. Wide receiver and defensive end. Why don’t we just let him return kicks, play a little safety, stop the run. Maybe he can potentially be a shutdown corner. What Falcon team were some of you guys watching last year? The team has too many holes to draft a receiver. What planet do some of you guys live on. Only tech fans want to see the team mortgage their picks on a receiver, Falcon fans know better.
By Dave
April 26, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Let’s go ahead and trade for Calvin that way like New Orleans who traded their entire draft for Ricky Williams we also will be remembered. The difference is a RB gets the ball 25+ times a game a receiver maybe 6. We also have a QB who the only receiver he is hitting is a TE. I want to be like Detroit and pick receiver after receiver. When that doesn’t work we out, we cut our our top 3 drafted QB. Some people think one player is why teams win championships. Let’s follow the Detroit and New Orleans model until we get it right. We all know Mike Vick is no Reggie Ball? He is really Peyton and Calvin will prove it if neither one gets injured. Let us pray for good health to both.
By Widget
April 26, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
If we still had Schaub, getting CJ would make great sense. But sense “No-Show” Vick will be the one throwing the ball, why waste a pick on a WR? You remember “No-Show”? Failed to show up before Congress and lied about it. Failed to show what was really in the bottle. Failed to show up in crunch time in any game last season…………………… Here’s a trade up for you. Trade Vick to Oakland for their number one this year, their number two this year, their number one next year, and their best O lineman. Then get the best QB on the board, and mop up with the rest of your picks. Now that would be moving up!
By Mo TOX
April 26, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this
Jeff Schultz you are right on this one we have to manny holds to field. Mckay this Draft can put you and this football team on the map if we can draft like the 49er’s did the year they drafted Ronnie Lotts . They had 7 player that played a lot that year. The key this year is defense . We were 22nd in defense last year. If we were 15th in defense last year we would have been in the play off’s. 4th round we should get offense lineman . 3th round bush and 1th and 2nd pure defense. The 19 year old should be first rounder. we can get a good safety in the second round. But Jeff you still have not told Vick you were wrong and the good O boy you are you won’t. Mckay It yo thing do what you need to do on defense this year! 11-3 you got to believe Real Falcon Fans believe! HaterS go to Texas WITH YOUR #8 by!
By Marky Mark
April 26, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
Who would really want to draft a player from Georgia Tech. The b team of the state of Georgia. If Timmy and Paul can shut down Calvin then I guess a whole lot of others could also. Why slap dog fans in the face and pick a bee? The falcons refuse to draft UGA products, so shouldn’t they do the same to Calvin. Sorry CJ, not getting any love in Atlanta.
By Mo TOX
April 26, 2007 8:59 AM | Link to this
THE POST AT 9:01 pm IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
By jeanE
April 26, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
Great article, Jeff! Not to mention you’re hilarious…we aren’t drafting Calvin, no way. We can’t afford him, plain & simple. I just can’t decide if we should take the safety, Landry, or draft another Jamaal for this time, that would be weird to have a player with the same name as Jam! That Reggie Nelson sounds like a good one, too! I actually think Jimmy Williams is going to OK, albeit with a learning curve. Go Birds, no drafting of receivers or God Forbid, tight ends!!!
By Georgiaboy
April 26, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
If the Falcons trade up, I rather them give up a 1st round pick next year. Instead of our 2nd round picks this year for C.J
By Mo TOX
April 26, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
OKOYE has the most up side other than cavin. coleman is starting to get old . Okoye is the mean Joe green in this draft. Landry is great to but Abe need some help. Pressure make DB look good. Okoye can do just that. The front seven can make the DB look good if they bring pressure and more pressure is wnat this team needs on defense!
By White is Right!
April 26, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this
Since the Falcons are stuck with Vick for perhaps his final year, they should take an offensive lineman. It’s not like they actually care what the fans think anyway. However, I think Levi Brown would be a good pick here. I don’t see him being drafted before the Falcons pick. They already have Wayne Gandy in place. Brown could watch him play until he’s ready to take over. CJ is nothing but a pipe dream for the Dirty Birds.
By Doc Edwards
April 26, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
Calvin Johnson is going to be one of the greatest players of his time and possibly of all time, he alone can win ball games for the Falcons. He’ll make everyone in Atlanta look great, Just like he did at Tech (They won their A.C.C division and he was all they had). If we don’t get him he will wear our a* out everytime we play him (Possibly Tampa Bay takes him, and by the way thats a a* kicking twiced a year).
By A Different Matt
April 26, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this
I didn’t think Calvin Johnson was that good, but I only saw him play against UGA. Apparently he can be covered one-on-one and pretty much shut down as a game-changer by a half-decent corner.
Or is he a head-case who can’t get up for a rivalry game?
By gdawg
April 26, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
It’s all about putting asses in the seats on Sunday…. so take Calvin Johnson and start Shockley.
By Appfan
April 26, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
It would be cruel to Calvin Johnson to pair him with Vick. Johnson deserves better. His career would be ruined by Vick. Johnson needs a quarterback who can throw the ball.
By Michael Woodward
April 26, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
All these side line coaches need to cool it. The offensive line looks bad because when Vick drops back to pass,there is no one open. If we had receiver’s that could get open, teams would show caution in sending every one in to stop Vick; they have other player’s to contend with like Calvin, Dunn, White, Jenkins, Crumpler and Finnery. These player’s can score from any where on the field. A good offense is a better defense.
By Warren
April 26, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Yea, I think the Falcons need to draft another receiver. Let’s just keep looking for receivers for Mike and maybe if we’re lucky a “train” of a defensive lineman will come crushing through the Falcon’s Smurf style offensive line and carry Mike away. Then we’ll draft a quarterback the following year and all this will begin again. Ever hear something about history repeating itself?
By justand
April 26, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
You should always focus on Defense in the draft, unless it is QB/RB positions. Research shows that the success rate of defensive talent is faster and we now the old saying. “defense wins Championships” even the Colt won this year because of some great defensive plays. CJ21 is great but LL30 will be better for us. Justin Harrell, Charles Johnson/ QMoses. Stack the Defense!
By White is Right!
April 26, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
Granted, the receivers can’t get open. However, the Falcons continually fail to draft good o-lineman. Just look at the last three Super Bowl winners. They had at least one Pro Bowl offensive lineman on their roster. The Colts had Tarik Glenn at last year’s Pro Bowl. The Steelers sent C Jeff Hartings and G Alan Faneca. The Steelers drafted Faneca in the 1st Round. Tarik Glenn was drafted in the 1st round as well. See drafting an OL helps.
By Orlando Rivera
April 26, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
Widget, that trade makes some actual sense, more than what these other GT c*ck suckers are thinking with getting Johnson.
No GM worth his salt would risk drafting a WR on a team with numerous holes (S, OL, DE) If Landry is available pick him, safeties are always the safest bet to provide immediate impact. If he’s not then trade down to get Reggie Nelson from Florida. In the second round with TWO picks they should beef up the offensive line. Finally if Micheal Bush is available in the third round pounce on him with the third pick.
Petrino wants to make an impact with this draft and he will as long as he doesn’t cater to the fickle Atlanta fans and cares more about winning.
By GaVaHokie
April 26, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
I’d like to see us package one of the second round picks to move back into the late first round.
Round 1: Laron Landry Round 1: Alan Branch Round 2: Justin Blalock
or
Round 1: Levi Brown Round 1: Reggie Nelson Round 2: Charles Johnson
By E.Hill
April 26, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
Look ATL fans, how many defensive linemen are still on the roster that started every game last year? No pass rush, no division Championship. Shultz you are still an idiot, not offering an apology for accusing somebody for a crime, that didn’t happen, publicly. Anyway, you only have to be a fan to see the needs we have. Does Calvin Johnson play middle linebacker,Saftey, D-line, O-line, hell, every position?
By darrell
April 26, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
well taking johnsonwould make the falcons better im just wondering why they picked up joey harrington ..waste of money i personally like Dj and i think he has a great future if given the chance……as far as calvin is concerned you must think about it very hard these are the same falcons who passed on Randy
By BAD PRESS
April 26, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
What is it with AJC and VICK. WHY IS AJC SPORTS OUT FOR VICK. AJC sport is trying with all it might to do VICk in and the Question is why?
By Josh
April 26, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
Draft Calvin. Then we can run the run and shoot offense with calvin, horn, roddy white and jenkins at receiver and then that fullback we signed from baltimore can be our ironhead heyward.
In all seriousness, if they are going to get Calvin, I have no problem with it, but in the trade to Detroit ‘(or whoever) they need to get rid of Jenkins or White in the process. Calvin will catch everything (unlike the other two first round bozos or drop everything).
By Ol' Ball Coach
April 26, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
Everyone, take a knee!! As a former coach, here’s where you make some smart decisions.
1st round - DE Carriker - a bigger Kerney who can flip inside on passing downs. 2nd round (a) - S Merriweather an actual free safety who can cover deep 2nd round (b) - OL Blalock - a big nasty to push the line & stop the rush 3rd round - RB Hunt Penn State or RB Bush, Louisville - self explanatory 4th (a) a middle backer, (b)a corner (c) a receiver 5th a kicker, 6th - OT, 7th DT
That’s how you get a few studs and some depth. We need to build the house before we can start hanging original Picasso’s on the walls. CJ is a picasso. We cant afford him, and we’ve no place to hang him yet. Our house is still a shell..we’re looking for sheetrock boys. Now hit the showers and have a beer. Saturday will be interesting. I only hope Rich Mckay decides not to be creative!!
By An Inquiring Mind
April 26, 2007 10:41 AM | Link to this
Bad Press appears to be one of the pathetic jock sniffers who worship at Vick’s throne.
What is the AJC supposed to do? Ignore any and all “bad news” that involves Vick?
BTW, did anybody else notice that a rookie from Virginia Tech who’s making the league minimum salary gave $50,000 to the school?
I wonder why Vick - signed a $130 million contract - didn’t give more than a measly $10,000.
By honest_abe
April 26, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
matt@slc: don’t mind poophead, he’s a techie and that pretty much says it all. having said that i think you’re way off on cj. he’s a can’t miss talent. dont’ compare him to those scrubs that you listed. he’s faster than rodgers and got much better hands than lelie, mike williams had work ethic issues. cj is the complete and total package. he’s fast, strong, nimble, excellent hands, an amazing vertical leap, wonderful work ethic, great character. he’s all that and a bucket of a chicken. i’m a uga grad but i see talent as it is, not based on collegiate alliances.
finally, maybe the reason why he wasn’t able to step up against the big name programs is because he had a moron as a qb, somewhat similar to what the falcons currently have. reggie ball will go down as one, if not the worst qb in tech history.
By honest_abe
April 26, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
oops in my defense of CJ i forgot to say it would be a horrific mistake for the falcons to move up to get him. if the falcons want to trade up, they need to pick joe thomas! hey if you vick apologists want that guy to stay here in the A for a few more years then you better build him an adequate offensive line. joe thomas would do much more for mike than calvin johnson. move up and get joe thomas!!!!!!!!!
By LOUSY PRESS
April 26, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
AJC sport is trying with all it might to do VICk in and the Question is why?
Vick is a cancer on OUR team, an embarrassment to OUR city, a symbol of much that is wrong with OUR professoinal sports in America and a herpes-spreading menace to the women of OUR society.
That is why, Dog.
By honest_abe
April 26, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
finally, after trading up to get joe thomas. use the remaining 2nd round pick to get ben grubbs if available, if not justin blaylock or aaron sears. and BAM you’ve created a wall on the left side.
By Andrew
April 26, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Orlando, you make an excellent point. The Falcons need another wide receiver like they need another hole in the head. Any other position would do just fine.
By Skool is Kool
April 26, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this
MIKE VICK: The Failure of the State of Virgina Public Education System, Special Needs Division
By KB
April 26, 2007 10:53 AM | Link to this
I hope in the worst way that the Falcons are not be very serious in trading up for C. Johnson. Not with all these holes in this team!
By Tommy Boy
April 26, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Vick brings this negative publicity on himself. It’s always someone else’s fault. Why is everybody picking on me? When you associate with trash, dirt gets on you too. It’s been one embarassing thing after another with this guy. He’s a loser and abject failure as a leader. There’s no excuse for his behavior. I sincerely hope this is his last season in Atlanta. He can take his mumbling, drug-addict, herpes carrying, no football playing butt out of this town. We need a quarterback with class like Peyton Manning, McNabb, or Vince Young.
By braves fan
April 26, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
The problem with your rationale is that it forgets that if the Falcons do not acquire Calvin Johnson, then the Buccaneers certainly will. That means the Falcons will be embarrassed twice a year for the next 15 seasons by CJ. And there aren’t any players that the Falcons can acquire that will offset that annual embarrassment. The Falcons have the picks to get up to #2 and have a need at WR. They should do it.
By Tommy Boy
April 26, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this
Mike Vick: All of you are out to get me!! Nevermind, the fact that I walked into an airport with my special jewelry bottle. I was just carrying my jewelry.
Whatever you say, Mike! How could you have possibly known what was going on in your property in VA.? I suppose that wasn’t your fault either. Where are all the Vick apologists now? Where’s King whatever his name is? Oh, that’s right. He killed himself. He couldn’t stand the fact that we were right about this clown.
By Tommy Boy
April 26, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
White is right! I’m sorry. That’s right is right, wrong is wrong.
By tdawg1137
April 26, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
Don’t trade up. I would love to have calvin johnson play for the falcons but if we don’t get an offensive line there won’t be any time to throw to anybody. If we don’t get defensive linemen then we will never have the ball on offense. That said if we could trade our first round and third round to get him then go for it but we need a lot of things not just 1 great player
By Eric
April 26, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
GET CALVIN AT ALL COST! We’re forgetting one key element here! We not only need to get Calvin Johnson. We need to PREVENT him from going to Tampa Bay! Look what Reggie Bush did for N.O., two automatic losses for the birds. We must be mindful of how our division is drafting!
By tdawg1137
April 26, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
let’s trade all our picks for calvin johnson then trade vick for randy moss and then trade crumpler for terrel owens. with that wide recieving trio we couldn’t lose. oh right…..then we would be the detroit lions
By woskey
April 26, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
Time to dump the thug! Draft a qb.
By tdawg1137
April 26, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
better yet eric trade all our players for calvin johnson. then go to the sandlot and get every other position filled. boy that calvin can do it all
By Andrew
April 26, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
I think the Falcons should be worried about their own team. Worried about Calvin Johnson, draft defensive players to stop him. Want to stop Reggie Bush, improve the D-Line. Want to stop CJ, improve the secondary. Get safety LaRon Landry.
By tdawg1137
April 26, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
reggie bush is not the main reason for the saints improvement. it’s that they got a all pro qb in brees.
By Matt Millen
April 26, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
In this draft, with 10 picks, it’s a no-brainer to trade up for CJ — what are you waiting for, Art??
By AL G
April 26, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
You know, it’s a wonder why some NFL team hasn’t contacted you about taking over as general manager. (please take note of the aire of sarcasm that surrounds this comment) FWIW, the 4 guys I would like to see the Falcons go after on draft day: LaRon Landry, Charles Johnson, Michael Bush, and Paul Williams.
By AL G
April 26, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
If the Falcons are that worried about stopping Calvin Johnson if he is drafted by another team, all they have to do is draft Paul Oliver in next year’s draft.
By Scott
April 26, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
MIKE VICK IS A SLEAZBAG AND WILL NEVER WIN IN THE LEAUGE
By gizmox329
April 26, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
I agree that Calvin Johnson is an amazing talent and the best receiver in the draft, but even the best quarterback could not get him the ball when he is lying flat on his back. Remember Steve Bartkowski? Great talent and potential but lacked mobility and protection (what was it, ten or twelve knee surgeries)? He never had a good season until Leeman Bennett started drafting an O’line to protect Bart. Also the best defensive back has a hard time covering a receiver without a great pass rush. The game is won or lost at the line of scrimmage and the falcons need help on both sides of it. When rebuilding a team you start at the line first. I say keep all ten picks and let the building begin.
By Andrew
April 26, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
Amen, gizmox329!!! Scott, you are right on the money.
By Kerwin White
April 26, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
Dump the thug!!
By Matt Millen
April 26, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
Falcons have a lot of needs, that’s true, but this is an opportunity to get a guy (CJ) who will scare the bejeezus out of defenses. There will be good offensive lineman and defensive players in the later rounds. Giving up a couple of second rounders is not an unreasonable price for a guaranteed star, and just think of the marketing for a Vick-Johnson combo. Falcons will be on a few Sunday and Monday nights just for that - and there will be a lot more tix sold.
By Mike Vick
April 26, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
ya know what i’m saying
By Snake Pliscan
April 26, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this
Let’s just hope that the Falcons get some help in a lot of other areas and don’t draft Johnson because knowing the Falcons luck somebody next year will draft Paul Oliver or bring in Demarrio Minter (a reference to how two Bulldogs shut down this prolific once in a generation type talent).
By Sean
April 26, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
People we also need recievers that can catch the ball on a regular basis. When your tight end is your # 1 pass catcher something is wrong here. Getting CJ would be a big boost to the offense. You can always draft the big boys to block in later rounds.
By Jim
April 26, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
Take the kid from Louisville at DE and then take the 2 best tackels and 2 offensive guards you can. If they all end up starting we’ll all know just how bad the current Falcon’s linemen really are. If you do not rebuild this O-line with Warrick nearing the end of his carrer, this will bew a long season. The more we keep the ball on O the less the terrible defense will be exposed.
By Call me Earl
April 26, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Don’t Believe the Hype Falcons Fans don’t be fooled by ESPN’s fool’s Gold.
L.Landry is not proven. Why should we pick a safety in the first round, when we could draft a stud Tackle.
1.Levi Brown 2.Brandon Merriwether 2.Charles Johnson or Quentin Moses 3.DT 4.M.Bush 4.WR 4.Kicker(The kid from Colorado) 5.OG 6.OT
By Bushwacker
April 26, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Forget Calvin Johnson, we better draft a quarterback. 3 more incidents for Vick this week, enough is enough! We must have the dumbest front office in sports, because a stupid redneck like me could see a pattern here, and Vick will be in jail before the season starts. Why would youbtrade Schaub knowing its just a matter of time before our spoiled punk qb blows up again.
Blank should fire Rich McKay for trading Schaub and release that punk Vick.
God works in mysterious ways, maybe now is DJ’s time!!!
By KB
April 26, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
I am amazed that so many of you fans have a loser mindset when it comes to football. One player doesn’t make a team. For example, look what happening to the Minnesota Vikings and the Dallas Cowboys in the early part of the 90’s. The Vikings were a good team, but missed on having a decent ground game. The Vikings made a deal to get H. Walker from the Cowboys. The Vikings didn’t get the Superbowl that year or the following years afterwords. The Cowboys won three Super Bowls with the picks they got from Vikings (with the help of a GM and coach who knew how to find talent and put the talent in the position to succeed.)
The management group better get its act together. McKay needs to perform or I will start calling you Billy Knight (and we all know who good he has done with the Hawks.)
By Tim McDaniel
April 26, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
For me, the thing that used to scare me when the 49ers came to town was the fact that we had noone (except when Deion was here) who could cover Rice. The man made a career off of us alone. Do you really want Tampa to get that type of player? I wish we would draft him just to keep him out of Tampa. Kansas City is doing the same thing right now with Oakland. They are waiting to trade Trent Green to Miami. As soon as Miami has Green they are probably going to release Culpepper who would be signed by Oakland allowing them to draft Johnson. Kansas doen’t want to face him for the next 10 to 12 years either.
By Mr. White
April 26, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
If the Falcons have the chance to draft an offensive lineman with 1st round talent, they should do it. If Joe Thomas or Levi Brown is available, the Falcons shouldn’t hesitate to take them. If not offensive line, I’d take a defensive player, preferrably on the line. If you can’t get the D-lineman, go with the safety LaRon Landry. In the second round, grab an O-Lineman. Blalock, Grubbs or someone in the same mold would be an excellent fit at guard.
By alex
April 26, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Falcons should trade up since they have so many picks and won’t be contenders this year no matter who they take. The franchise needs a new superstar because of Vick’s non-football activities. I’m not going to knock his play. When he gets protection, he is as accurate a passer as there is with a cannon for an arm. Undersized O-line has kept him constantly on the run in passing situations. Also, they wear down by the end of the game which is the primary reason for no comebacks. However, offensive linemen don’t sell tickets and jerseys. Calvin Johnson fits the bill, but probably can’t co-exist with Vick under the salary cap. A move up two spots for Adrian Peterson would make more sense.
The most intruiging, though farfetched, idea here is to trade Vick to Oakland for the top pick. I don’t think that there is any way here in Atlanta that the Vick situation doesn’t just get uglier once the Falcons start losing next year. He’d get a fresh start in Oakland where he’d fit perfectly. The Falcons could take Jamarcus Russell and build around him with all those other picks.
While I don’t see how the Falcons could accomodate getting Johnson, if Arthur Blank has given orders to do it at all costs then it will probably happen unless Oakland takes him with the first pick. Would Shockley throwing the ball to Johnson in 2008 make the locals happy?
By White is Right
April 26, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
I hope Joey Harrington is ready to play. Vick is imploding. He can’t seem to stay out of trouble. That’s all he seems to do. If it’s illegal, Vick’s doing it. What a loser!
By Andrew
April 26, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
Absolutely, anyone’s better than Vick. He couldn’t hit water from a boat. At least, Shockley has his head on straight.
By larry
April 26, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
Yeah that Calvin Johnson really did a number on the Georgia Bulldogs, didn’t he?
The point I’m trying to make, and taking nothing from Johnson, is he can’t do it all. On the Falcons, he and they would flounder. The Falcons have their own needs to see to beginning at quarterback.
By Devastator
April 26, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
KKK4Life,
You are a black guy pretending to be a white racist.
By Hunk Erdown
April 26, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
We need at least two beefy boys for the o-line, and two more for the d-line… good ones. We need Landry or the kid from Fla for the d-backfield. Then we need a monster running back. Forget about having Vick and Johnson on the same team, its simple economics if nothing else, we can’t afford it.
I personally don’t see why Vick is so untouchable if it would mean making the team better. Even if you still think he is such a stud, would you rather have 4-5 solid, very good players or 1 stud with no support and is fragile both physically and mentally? Even given the benefit of the doubt, the dude is plagued with character issues. Now he may be guilty of animal cruelty and other, undisclosed, legal charges? He will go down in history as the biggest bust in Atlanta proffesional sports.
By Magneto
April 26, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Vick is faceing charges in two unrelated incidents. Two states and two types of crimes. Anyone who defends him is a racist themselves, because they are perpetuating what is really holding some African Americans back: Self Destruction!
By Kerwin White
April 26, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
That’s funny. You have too much time on your hands. Are you King whatever his name is? He’s a nucking moron.
By Big Al
April 26, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
You said all the right things but came to the wrong conclusion. What this team needs is character! And Calvin Johnson is full of it. Maybe you need to sacrifice a year (we will anyway) and add the best player to come along in years in terms of talent and character, and pick up the rest next year. You dont build a business one year at a time. The Falcons have take one step forward and two steps back and may need time to correct the mistakes of the past. Next year, after Vick proves he can or can’t be a quality passer (and i pewwrsonally doubt he will), he will be on the trading block completely changing the dynamics of the team. So, we need to have an “insurance policy” i.e. local, high profile, high character face of the franchise star to keep the seats filled because we know Petrino will add his good ol’ boy from Louisville as the next QB.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
Good Morning, Glad to see that nothing has changed here in ATL Blogville, USA. Over the past several weeks there have been whispers concerning the Falcons behind the scenes moves. Mr. Wyche why is it that the nat’l media can report pertinent Falcon insider information and you and the AJC staff focus on your trivial pursuit of hating on the teams players. Shouldn’t you be trying to build them up. Probably not, because that would chase all the venom away from your blogs.
The NFL networks Adam Schecter reported that the Falcons sent a contingent to Louisiana for another sit down with Landry. This is worth reporting. They feel that they needed to be sure because if they can’t trade up for Johnson (or if the Raiders draft him) they need a backup plan. Apparently, he’s it. Unfortunately, Washington will require a draft pick to slide back also. Don Banks of CNNSI.com is reporting that Mr. Blank has given ORDERS to McKay and staff to ensure that Calvin Johnson is in a Falcon uniform. Supposedly we’re the from runners because of who the Lions want (Gaines Adams). He’ll be available @ #8 and will save them money at that slot. We will have to give them our #8, 39, and 44. This will still leave us with 3rd, (3) 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th round selections. We can still secure a starting Safety in the 3rd with Aaron Rouse (I’m sorry Bush will be long gone by then). With the remaining selections, there are several OL, DL, and CB prospects to fit the remaining team needs. Most agree that this a two stage process any how. If necessary, stick with the same blocking scheme until after next years draft. With CJ in the mix, the offense should be just fine. Brad Badger was recently cut by the Raiders and Quarles was released by TB. Perhaps we can secure them for the veteran minimum. If anyone doubts that the Falcons are pursuing Johnson, the words used in the article were that “McKay was ORDERED to put the Falcons in the right position to MAKE it happen”. Detroit paved the way by signing a big target in Marcus Robinson just yesterday. The only thing preventing Calvin from wearing the red and black in Al Davis. Let’s pray that Culpepper is not released prior to the draft.
Warren, Please show up today. It would be cowardly of you do hit and run. Looking forward to hearing from you…
By Big Al
April 26, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
P.S.
We need a new Face of the Franchise whether Vick stays or goes.
You won’t be seeing his face on many billboards in the days to come.
By KB
April 26, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Our o-line can’t be that bad we only LEAD THE LEAGUE IN RUSHING 3 TIMES IN A ROW. The reason we lots the majority of the games last year was due to our sorry wide recevier droping the balls like hot potato. I do agree that there is holdd on defence but drafting Calvin would solve a lot of problems, vick will be more intact having someone to actually throw too into they do that we will not be back in th playoff, history showed it since Vick been here thats all we been talking about get him some receviers and when we have a oppurtinty we say its stupid. And our quaterback positions is just fine yu racist bastards!
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
CJ21 is waaaaay overhyped. imagine that, an overhyped WR. but that never happens. Too much sizzle and not enough steak. When avg CB’s like Demario Minter and Paul Oliver cand shut this guy down for a collective two game total of FOUR CATCHES FOR 26 YARDS! then that guy is waaaaaay overhyped if being mentioned as a top 5 draft pick. PERIOD! Oh yea, did i fail to mention both of those games was the most important game of the entire season. for two stright years CJ21 was shutdown buy average CB’s during an extremly meningfull game.
CALVIN JOHNSON IS WAAAAAY OVERHYPED!
By Devastator
April 26, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
KKK4Life,
You have to be black to think like that in the first place. White racist don’t care about us killing ourselves. They don’t even take notice of it. Stop trying to racebait!!!!
By Adam
April 26, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
That’s right. It’s everyone else’s fault but your own. The ‘man’ is picking on you. The ‘man’ made you go fishing in a spot that was off limits to everyone else. Just like he made you sell crack to one another. It’s his fault, you have children out of wedlock. Then you raise them to be irresponsible, unruly, ignorant little snots. That’s not your fault. It’s not your fault that you refuse to learn in school.
P.S. Lay off, Warren. It bothers you that he won’t play your game. You and King HIV can go start your own black only state as far as I care.
By Magneto
April 26, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
KB,
If you’re going to call everyone who criticizes Vick a racist, the least you can do is learn how to spell first!
Tell your boy Vick to stay out of trouble and then we’ll be fine!
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
Did anyone else notice that we just signed a very good and proven WR and are paying him a king’s ransom to play? Why in the World would we go after the same posistion we just filled with free agency? Not to mention, it could end up coasting us three future starter’s.
WHEMSICAL BANTER is all this trade up for CJ talk is worth.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this
They hate white people because there is always some secret conspiracy going on. They live in a fantasy world. Just ignore them. I wish that we could just talk about the Falcons’ draft plans without debating on race relations in America. Geez, get a grip. I guess they can’t take a joke.
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
Atlanta, where overhyped WR’s go to be exposed by an even more overhyped QB.
By Kerwin White
April 26, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
No one is saying that they aren’t great run blockers. However, KB, there are two sides to a blocker’s duties. The other side is pass blocking. KB, their pass blocking is horrendous. We need linemen that can do both well. Right now, we’ve got linemen that can do one and not the other.
By Titothebear
April 26, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Well, more negative things about Mike Vick have come out today. The most serious intimation is that someone in Vick’s family, who lived on property owned by Mike Vick, is being investigated in connection with drug trafficking. Mike Vick is not a very good quarterback and the added burden of his many off-field peccadilloes reflects badly upon Mister Blank and the Falcons’ organization. The Falcons need to rid themselves of this overhyped blight, upon the quarterback position and team, and put the emphasis upon playing winning football. It’s time to terminate the relationship with Mike Vick!
By KB
April 26, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
People need to stop hating on vick. Because with the talent around him he still was able to win more game then any other quaterback in atl history. and I dont care what quarter back you put in atlanta, NFL, college, past, or future they will not win as many games as michael vick has won on his own with the talent around him. Beside I think it has much more to do with coache’s and there system. If you look at New england and Billecks System, they won 3 superbowls with a bunch of shrubs and nobodys so its the system that failed us: and even When Dan Reeves was here Vick was sucessful but he kept getting hurt. So yall ran the greastest coach we ever had. GREAT JOB ATLANTA FANS.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
To KB: Spell check, my friend. It will do wonders for your argument. Maybe someone will actually be able to understand it. Vick is criticized because he’s always getting into something. He’s embarrassing the city and the team. Tell your boy to stop acting like an a** and everyone will get off his case.
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this
I say, even if CJ21 drops to 8th (which he won’t thanks too all the other CJ dope smokers out there) we shouldn’t draft him. We need another overhyped WR as bad as we need another overhyped throwing RB… er, uh, ….. i mean QB.
Falcons consistantly refuse to draft O-Linemen and we consistantly suck. Does anyone else see a patter developing?
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
Adam, You have some real issues. I’m not going to play your game. There are plenty of ways to handle what’s going on here. Enjoy it while it lasts. I apologize in andvance to all congenial Falcon fans who come here to exchange information, but this has to stop. It only takes place because it’s behind a veil of secrecy. How do you operate in the open? Well, we’re about to find out…
By Magneto
April 26, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
KB,
Aren’t you forgeting one thing? Tom Brady. I agree with you that a good system is necessary, but nothing beats a good quarterback and right now we don’t have one.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
Dude, what are you talking about? I can barely understand you.Your grammar and spelling is worse than your previous post. Bill Belichick is a great head coach with a great system. However, you can not say the Patriots won with scrubs and nobodies! Tom Brady, Richard Seymour (UGA), Corey Dillon, Ty Law, Asante Samuel, Troy Brown and Tedy Bruschi aren’t scrubs. Vick isn’t smart enough to run Belichick’s offense. He couldn’t do half the things that Tom Brady can. Brady’s got 3 rings. What does Vick have? A special water bottle for “jewelry”! Ha! He could use that to protect his Super Bowl rings. Oh, wait! He doesn’t have any!!! Get serious. Vick is a loser and an abomination who should be stricken from the team and the record books.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
No real issues here. I’m just giving it to you straight. If white people are so bad, why not start your own thing? Are you threatening me? That doesn’t make you sound too reasonable. It also doesn’t help your argument.
By CQ
April 26, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
You people have got to be serious.
Why no one said anything about the woman that was raped AT Patrick Kerney’s house, but when a family member living at one of Vicks homes in ANOTHER state get in trouble with the law, you want him out of town.
I will be happy when Vick leaves the city of ATLANTA and let this franchise sink back to the days on 5000 fans in the dome.
By Kerwin White
April 26, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Amen, KKK4Life. You guys don’t respect one another. You don’t seem to care that your lives are going down the drain. Why should anyone else care?
By april glaspie
April 26, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
I guess the subject of next year’s discussion will be Paul Oliver and Tra Battle, since they consistently ate Calvin’s lunch. And yeah, the Falcons should trade up for Paul Oliver, although there won’t be a whole lot of up to go.
But Calvin did have nine catches for something like 73 yards in three tries against Georgia. Obviously, this can’t be blamed on the odious Reggie Ball, since he seemed to get the ball to Calvin against everybody else. For instance , against an alleged all-world Clemson D-backfield
This isn’t some blind dislike of GT players. I rejoice in Jason Varitek’s inspired play, and Nomar (the man with the his name in the mirror) might be my favorite player. But as far as football is concerned, GT players just don’t ever seem to live up to their potential, either in senior year or in the NFL.
Anyway, if Paul Oliver is looking for an agent, my brother’s a lawyer.
By KB
April 26, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this
Tommy you an idoited cause how can you know what is going on at your house in Viringa when you’re in altanta for the whole week. YOU CANT BE TO PLACES AT ONCE. And the men has a right to carry what ever the hell he wants as long as it is not illegal and they later we found out it WAS N OT. SO let it go and move on please.
By KB
April 26, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
DUh you know there name know cause they won superbowls. But before that who was they? and whe did I say something about a black guy pretending to be a racasist.
By BAD PRESS
April 26, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
AJC sports crown of clowns!
By Kerwin White
April 26, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
Unlike Mike Vick, Kerney is innocent. Vick is a thug. He’s being brought up on charges again. Why can’t you see this guy for the loser that he is? Oh, that’s right. It’s because he’s black. Blacks get a free pass in life, huh? People like you make me sick. Couldn’t get into the school you wanted? Cry racism. You can’t cut the mustard at work. Cry discrimination. The whole world is just so unfair. All of you should go take a long walk off a short pier.
By CQ
April 26, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
How this did turn into a Vick Bashing?
Thats why the team sucks now, we worry about the wrong positions. Lets focus on the O-Line, D-Line, and Corner positions. This has got to be the worst city for professional sports.
By Magneto
April 26, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this
Vick apolgists should be ashamed of themselves. They are the ones who are being racist with there finger pointing.
By KB
April 26, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this
KKK… You keep saying were destroying ourselves dude yall did that along time ago when you took us from our us and set the program up to destroy our famlies so yes I blame on your people.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Whoa, buddy. Back off Tommy. He’s got a point. Vick rented the place to his nephew. He had to have known his knucklehead nephew was going to slang dope out of the house. That’s what these youngsters do nowadays.
By Magneto
April 26, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
KB,
Please shut up. You and Vick have a lot in common.
By terrell barron
April 26, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
1 okoye or landry, whoever is there. 2 charles johnson or anthony spencer. 2b merriweather, if we could not get landry, if we got landry how about dwayne jarrett. he could be the steal of the draft. 3 siler mlb from florida brooking is not a mlb. 4 dt cb ol 5 ol 6 ol 7 ol
By KB
April 26, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this
This is not a spelling contest, am not writing a essay to turn in to my teacher.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
KB, you’re filled with blind hate and rage. I just can’t continue on debating with you this way. Take a deep breath. Then come back to the keyboard and type calmly. His water bottle smelled of marijuana. No mary jane was present. However you could tell that he had carried some in the bottle. I don’t know what you’re so angry about. I’m just telling you how I see it.
By KB
April 26, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
Partner I got a Full Sholarshipp to college to play football so don’t tell me what i cant do and hes athug cause he black and kerneys and saint cause hes whie …oh I get it.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
KB, KB. If that’s the case, why do you guys actively participate in or with the tools of your self-destruction? It doesn’t make y’all seem too bright. I’m wondering why you guys haven’t gotten it together. Oh, wait. You waste time hating us instead of fixing your own problems.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
If Petrino is serious about revamping the offensive line, he should draft either Levi Brown or Joe Thomas. The Falcons haven’t had a great line ever, I think.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
I can tell you have never written an essay that got an A. You definitely weren’t in a spelling bee. Here’s the correct way to spell idiot. IDIOT. You should know that word very well. I’m sure you’ve been called that quite a few times, along with some other choice words.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
Adam, You can review anything I’ve ever posted on this sight. Not once have I used any derogatory terms to describe any individual. I’ve used the word “racist(s)” and “racism” to describe situations and individuals who’ve made blatant racist remarks (I also referred to Mr. Moore as an Uncle Tom). Rest assuredly what I said is not a threat to you in any way. If I were to do that, I’d invite you down to Peachtree Plaza for a drink and try to settle our differences. If that didn’t work and you persisted in disrespting me in person, then a threat would no longer be imminent, your immediate health would come into question. During my little break, I contacted the Anti-Defimation League and 2 other organizations and asked them to review the contents of these blogs for possibility that those authoring them and the AJC can be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for HATE CRIMES and fostering the environment condusive for such activity to be possible. Before you respond, I suggest you educate yourself and www.adl.org to see what you and your comrades are up against.
A little bio for you to digest. I’m a retired Col from the USAF with 23 years of service to my country. I possess a Masters Degree in Business Administration and Pharmacology with a minor in Sociology. I’m currently in pursuit of a Law degree. I’m financially comfortable and blogging is an outlet I use as a study tool for my Sociology projects. I only 43 and have nothing but time to do as I wish. You all have just provided me with my next project. This will cease, trust me. One way or another. By the way, you all realize that each response made within this an all websites is completely traceable to your home. Be mindful and think before you type…..
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
Tiggers, what y’all talkin’ ‘bout now? Chicken George (KB), you not makin’ any sense at all. Vick wasn’t carrying jewelry in that bottle and everybody knows it. The bottle contained residue of drugs and somebody got paid to make it go away. He’s a gangsta and he will wind up getting what gangstas get. He’s on the road to being released by the Falcons. It’s going to happen! Mr. Blank won’t continue to put up with these sorts of actions from a guy who hasn’t won anything for his team. He got rid of Mora for saying something stupid. Vick’s transgressions far outnumber Mora’s.
By Kerwin White
April 26, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this
Oh, yeah. That’s it. You figured me out. I’m a racist. I hate Vick because he’s black. I don’t like him because he’s a moron that can’t play football. He just happens to be black.
By CQ
April 26, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
Kerwin,
Sounds like you are the one hurt here. This has nothing to do with black or white. Have Vick been found guilty on any charge? NO!
Please explain how this case is different from the Kerney situation? Crimes to place in both athlets homes without their knowledge.
Its funny how the AJC puts Vick on the front page but they only gave Kerney a small paragraph.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
The ADL?! Was that really necessary? I haven’t called you any names. I just don’t see things the way that you do. Hate crimes? I have no intention of harming anyone. I can’t speak for these other guys.
By Opportunity Knocks
April 26, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
Opportunity knocks. You just have to take advantage when the door is opened. Don’t complain about discrimination if you don’t take advantage. The only person that can stop you is you.
By Kerwin White
April 26, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
No, I’m not hurt. I’m just tired of being called a racist because I don’t like Mike Vick.
By Adam
April 26, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
No one has called you or anyone else here names. If they did, it wasn’t a racial slur. Calm yourself.
By GT Baby!!!
April 26, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
THATS FUNNY BECAUSE LAST I HEARD NONE OF YOU ARE ON THE DRAFT COMMITTEE FOR THE ATLANTA FALCONS. THAT MEANS YOU TOO SCHULTZ YOUR AN IDIOT……SO YOU ALL CAN JUST SHHHHUUUUUUTTTT IIIIITTTTT!!!!
By GoldenRichards
April 26, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
I wish we could trade up to get Calvin Johnson. Im hoping the Falcons will trade Mike Vick for the rights to move up to the #3 position in the draft. Calvin Johnson will be picked by the third pick in the draft. After DeMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn, Johnson will come next at #3 and if the Falcons cut Mike Vick lose once and for all and move up to #3, Joey Harrington can step in at starting quarterback and bring the Falcons plenty of glory this season. Joey has been a very good quarterback during his stint with the Lions. The only reason why Joey looked bad there is because Detroit has a pitiful offensive line. The Falcons o-line isnt much better than Detroits, but I would rather have Joey start at qb and get rid of that finger flipping rodent Mike Vick for good. We dont need Mikes off-the-field indiscretions and his constant negative scandals which continue to surface all the time. CUT THE ROPE ON MIKE VICK PERMANENTLY AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DEAL WITH HIS NEGATIVE DESTRUCTIVE BAGGAGE.
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
A$$,
You are the one who needs to exact care on this site. You’ve threatened an individual in several ways. That’s called stalking and it’s punishable, by the Federal authorities, with a possible five year jail term. Here’s more information for you:When prosecuted, many stalkers have unsuccessfully attempted to justify their behavior based on their use of public forums, as opposed to direct contact. Once they get a reaction from the victim, they will typically attempt to track or follow the victim’s internet activity. Classic cyberstalking behavior includes the tracing of the victim’s IP address in an attempt to verify their home or place of employment. Sound like you? it does to me. You need to knock it off now!
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this
Adam, Unfortunately my friend it is necessary. I’m all for open discussion about pertinent facts, but when people refer to others as MONKEYS, POACH MONKEYS (not my spelling), etc… and it’s allowed to take place, I take issue with. I’m tired of nonsensical arguments with those who question by intelligence because of my race. It is extremely difficult to dull my sensibilities to communicate with lower level minds within this blog. But I’m done with it. I’ve just notified the AJC of pending action I’ll be taking to prevent this type of exchange from taking place. This forum is about football and football only. Venomous comments about the QB “butwheat” isn’t going to fly anymore. Don’t get me wrong, this isn’t necessarily about you. You’re probably an alright individual and we just disagree on certain issues. However, I’ve had it and if for anyone who questioned my intellectual abilities, just stick around and watch as the changes unfold. Just to make it really hurt, since I don’t think re-working the parameters of this blog will be sufficient, I’m going to FED EX a letter full of these blog pages to the program director from the Oprah Winfrey show. Think I’ll get a response. Since it took so long to type this, I’ll probably have been lambasted even more. So I’ll cut this short and go compile the logs that I’m sure my fans have recently provided to the blaze that’s currently a bonfire….
By GT Baby!!!
April 26, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
CQ VICK IS THE LEADER OF A FOOTBALL TEAM AND BETTER TALENT..BETTER ATHLETE….SO GET OVER YOUR “THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE ALL RACIST” AND “IT’S BECAUSE HE’S BLACK” MIND-SET
VICK HAS BEEN IN THE NEW BECAUSE HE CONTINUES TO ACT LIKE A CRIMINAL.
HE NEEDS TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND THINK TO HIMSELF “MAYBE I SHOULD CLEAN UP MY ACT AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT”
By The Interra-Gator
April 26, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
CQ, you have GOT to be one of the most intellectually dishonest posters on this blog.
Let me ask you a few questions:
Who plays for the Falcons, Vick or Kearney?
Who is the “face” of the franchise, Vick or Kearney?
Who is the player that many Atlantans have “adopted” as their lord and savior, Vick or Kearney?
Who has a LENGTHY and ever-growing record of “questionable” off-the-field behavior, Vick or Kearney?
When you answer these questions, you will know why one player gets more scrutiny than the other.
By GaVaHokie
April 26, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
Speaking of disgracing your race… why don’t you hillbillies go back to plucking your banjo’s and stroking off to your “dubya” posters. You’re making the rest of us well-adjusted white folk look bad.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Small Fry, I tried to desperately to dumb it down as much as possible for you, but I guess reading comprehension isn’t one of your strong suits. I’m well versed in information systems (you did read that I’m a military veteran). I’m highly trained in systems technologies and the laws relating to them. The AJC, not me tracks your computer data. Any email or blog entry can be retrieved from their servers with a few simply keystrokes. Adam, Refer to yestersday’s blog regarding “Falcon’s Needs”. and then say that. Besides, it doesn’t have to be me, it should happen “PERIOD” or don’t you get that.
By GT Baby!!!
April 26, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
STRAIGHT$$$$HOMIE YOU FORGOT TO ADD RACIST IN YOUR BIO…YOU JUST THREATENED SOMEONE IN YOUR POST..FOR A SISSY AF GUY YOU SURE DO SHOW YOUR COLORS ..DO THEY STILL MAKE THE AF WEAR DIAPERS…YOU COULDNT HURT ANYONE THEY NEVER TAUGHT THE AF HOW TO FIGHT…JUST HOW TO TELL THE INSTRUCTOR OR RUN AWAY IN SHORT DISTANCES..YOUR AN IDIOT
By GT Baby!!!
April 26, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
GAVA HOKIE MAD BECAUSE YOU GOT THE DOUBLE SHAFT HUH???
NEWTON MINNOW AND STRAIGHT$$$HOMIE YOU BOTH ARE IDIOTS AND HOMIE QUIT TRYING TO SCARE PEOPLE YOU AIN’T S.H.I.T.!!!
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
“Straight$$$$Homie”…. i couldnt think of a more suitable name for a wannabee lawyer that feels compelled to give us his lif’s credentials that are completly illrelavent to the discuss.LMBO. Good luck with your witch hunt “homie.” Why stop with this blog? Why not send the other 50 - 60 BILLION words that are posted on blogs Worldwide. FedEX that to Oprah. LMBO. You are in dire need of a hobby “homie.” This could just be it. It sure seems as though you are excited about it. I can see it now, “Straight$$$$Homie” you are going to single handedly rid the entire World of senseless, rediculas and mindless banter on every single blog on the entire internet. LMBO Go ahead “homie,” YOU CAN DO IT!
BTW, good luck, your gunna need it ….. “homie.”
By Clay
April 26, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Rich McKay and Arthur Blank are smart enough not to trade away the two second round picks to move up to nab Calvin Johnson, right? Who the heck knows. It seems this franchise has been jinxed with bad drafts. Last year I begged for beef, and all we got was more skill position players.
Football at every level is won on the line of scrimmage. Atlanta got pushed all over the place last year toward the end of the season. We need 3 of the top 4 picks to weight 300+.
If Laron Landry and Adrian Peterson are off the board, trade down and pick up some beef. There are plenty of defensive linemen in the draft. There are a few good offensive linemen. Get them now.
If Vick has time to throw and space to run, the offense will be successful with the receivers currently on the roster.
If the defense pressures the opposing QB and forces bad throws and turnovers, the Falcons will be successful.
Round 1. Laron Landry (S) Round 2a. Justin Blalock (OG/OT) Round 2b. Tony Ugoh (OT) Round 3. Victor Abiamiri (DE)
By KKK4Life
April 26, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
STRAIGHT$$$$…………… You are talking about the type of discussion on these blog sites ??? and that it is about football and only football ? Arent you the same Straight$$$$ that was having a conversation on one of these AJC blogsites a couple of days ago with a stripper named Brandy ? and were you guys not making sexual references to getting together and having anal sex ?? Hypocracy is not one of your better qualities.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
Ya’ll betta leave dat Vickboy alone! Yassa! Da falcons gonna go to da supa bowl and aint notin ya’ll can do about it. If ya’ll don’t stop yappin ‘bout Vick, I sa gonna knock yo teef out!
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
We better not trade up for CJ21. He isn’t even worth our 8th pick. We have adress our ‘issues” a WR with Horn (a true WR that’s proven and tested). Why on Earth would we turn right around and adress that posistion with our top 10 pick?
It will never happen and if it does this team deserves the 4-12 season it will have for years to come.
By GaVaHokie
April 26, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this
GT BABY… that would be “You’re” in idiot. Probably important to spell correctly in the same exact sentence you’re calling someone else stupid.
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
ATLANTA the place where overhyped WR’s go to be exposed by and even more overhyped throwing RB……. er, uh….. i mean QB.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Ya’ll be messin wit me. Me and Vick is two black folks dat ya’ll don’t like. Vick need to go somewheres else where ders good white folks! I sa gonna leave dis here blog and go somwheres else if ya’ll don’t stop a meesin wit me.
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
I would trade 21 seasons of 7-9 and 8-8 for 20 seasons of 0-16 combined with one season of 18 - 0 and Super Bowl Champs.
If we continue to posess a mediocre O-Line, we will continue to be a mediocre team. Regardless what RB we have throwing the ball and what extremly overhyped college WR catching the ball. PERIOD!
By KKK4Life
April 26, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this
STRAIGHT……… As a fellow veteran, you should also be aware of a certain Constitutional right called the freedom of speech, you should, you took an oath to uphold and protect it. I myself am a veteran having served with the 75th Ranger Regiment out of Ft Benning and the 82nd ABN out Ft Bragg. I have fought in 4 conflicts from Operation Just Cause in Panama, Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom and have served 1 tour in Afghanistan. So I think I have earned my right in blood to envoke my Constituional right of freedom of speech. Dont you ?
By GaVaHokie
April 26, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this
Yes, please, trade Vick to the Redskins… then I can get out of this bible thumpin’, Skoal Bandit chewin’, 50th in education, knuckle draggin’ state.
By NoWay!
April 26, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
KKK… your answer is a defiante NOWAY! I dont care if you served in every war since the revelutionary war, freedom of speech yes, heck, you even have the freedom of looking like an a$$ and have done a good job of that too. but the right of free speech doesnt mean provoking racist remarks and even then u should be not doing it behind the internet in an unaccountable fashion.
If you truly believe the way you do then why not stand up to it and defend it face-to-face? post your real name, address, and ph3….. maybe then you can start proclaiming freedom of speech….. i can’t believe im getting sucked into this…. lol
By Hunk Erdown
April 26, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this
Homie-
What did you do in the Air Force, fly hot air baloons? No! Forget I said that, I don’t want you to tell Oprah on me. Geez, what a joke!
By Hunk Erdown
April 26, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this
I said “fly hot air baloons” I meant to say “fuel them”.
By GT Baby!!!
April 26, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
GAVAHOKIE…YOU CAN LEAVE ANYTIME AND GO BACK TO VIRGINIA ….”WHERE PSYCHO’S SHOOT PEOPLE”
STUPID IDIOT…
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
A$$,
The word monkey is used often by a blogger going by the name Ken Strickland. He is black. You object to use of the woed Buckwheat. Did you object to Eddie Murphy portraying him on Saturday Night Live? Now listen, Buckwheat, your being the new sheriff is not otay with me. I don’t care what you like and what you don’t. Please don’t give us anymore of your fictionalized resume either. I don’t care about your background, what you do or in whose military you served. And please stop making dates with prostitutes on this blog. Bye Buckwheat.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
GT Baby, How appropriate is your moniker. You and your friends may want to mix in a spelling bee or two before cracking back on me. A typo is one thing, but you guys are way off. KKK4Life, The same applies to you and the “light bulb” trying to use my moniker. By the way, go back and re-read the exchanges between the girls and I. There was a 4th party involved and due to the lack of activity at the time, we simply were having fun. You can’t possibly be upset that they actually like me. Nah, your too much of a man for that.
No Way, Is the baby upset because daddy’s gonna take away his rattle? If you don’t know the reason for the moniker then don’t refer to it. You haven’t a clue and couldn’t fathom it’s meaning anyway. I really must thank you all, because I’m really going to enjoy this. Oh, by the way, a team of my employees have been given the rest of the day of to bang the AJC editors phone and email with protests. It will get louder and more wide ranging everyday until these act cease. If it doesn’t, Atlanta, GA will become known as the racist capital of the United States of America. I promise…
By CQ
April 26, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
this has got to be the worst blog in history.
I never seen so much hate. The AJC really needs to fix this issue
By GT Baby!!!
April 26, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
NO WAY …ONLINE DATING IS NOT RECOMMENDED ON HERE GO TRY TO FIND DATES ON SOME OTHER BLOG..
By Airborne Ranger
April 26, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
KKK… in addition to being a racist, you are a liar to boot. Only “non-rangers” refer to any of the three Ranger Battalions as 75th Ranger Regiment…. Every Ranger I have ever known (including myself, class 02/88) refers to their time in aa a Ranger in a “Ranger Bat” as 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Ranger Battion NOT Ranger Regiment.
Please, if you are going to be a poser atleast know the lingo…. Mr. I couldn’t carrier a Ranger rucksack if my life depended on it” WannaBe.
By dwy
April 26, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
Some people use any opportunity to insult Mike Vick, which is ridiculous No one wants to talk about a rape taking place in Patrick Kearnys’ house (officer I didn’t hear anything I was sleep)Yeah righ! But Mike Vick misses a plane to an event that he is bieng honored for his contributions to after school programs and its such a big deal. * I can’t wait to see the comments on this blog next year when Vick makes, the pro bowl again for the 4th time.* As much as I would like to see CJ in a Falcons uniform, We just have to many holes on defense and the O line to make it happen.
By KKK4Life
April 26, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
NoWay!………. Would you post your real name and address and phone number on an open site like this ??? The reason you dont care about Constitutional rights is probably because you have never done anything to defend them and so you dont have an appreciattion of how preciuos they really are. You talk about provoking racist remarks, but if I am not mistaken, black people are more guilt of using the word #IGGER than any white person I have ever met in my life. Read some of these posts, you will see that the argument is not one sided and that there are points of views from both whites and blacks. Dont forget, a racists are not always white, they can also be black as well.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
Hunkr Erdown, * Actually, I was the one who failed your father on his entrance exam and physical due that wide open space between his ears that apparently comtaminated his gene pool. I also talked to him about birth control, but it’s obvious he didn’t listen. *Small Fry, Mr. Strickland is not an offender. His usage of the word was used to describe those lacking in intelligence by resorting to use of racially insensitive remarks. FYI, I will gladly make a date with you and grant you the opportunity to refer to me as Buckwheat in person. Think about it, I’ll buy…
By GaVaHokie
April 26, 2007 3:16 PM | Link to this
GT BABY… at least killing someone still makes the newspaper in Virginia, because down here it happens too often to mention. Furthermore, at least Virginia has Recycling… Jesus, how backwoods can you get when your state doesn’t even have a recycling program yet? This state is RE-TAR-DED!! That’s why you’re losing it to the northerners. We’re taking over.
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
A$$,
We’re impressed. You’ve given the afternoon off to employees to bombard the AJC about bloggers. Not really an afternoon off then, is it? Spare us! Quit trying to pick up nappy headed, transvestite hos on this blog. You are a grandiose hypocrite! Be sure to tell Oprah about that exchange, when you were negotiating for anal sex on this site. it will strengthen your case. Buckwheat.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
No Way, Your post on the War Vet was outstanding.
KKK4Life, I appreciate your service to the country. However, as NO WAY pointed out so eloquently, you still don’t have any rights to spew such HATE. Your rights end when the next word out of your mouth is hateful towards a group of persons. It’s the LAW. Please go to ADL.org and have somebody read it to you so you can stay out of trouble….
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
A$$,
Once again, you are in violation of internet stalking laws. You don’t have enough spare change to buy anything. Buckwheat, why don’t you stop with the tough guy stuff? If you are really all that bad, publish your name, address and phone number. I’m sure you’ll be inundated by well-wishers. Bye Buckwheat.
By Falcon4ever
April 26, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Which blog is this? I just scrolled down to the bottom and the last 20mins or so have nothing to do with trading up in the draft for CJ. If this is about the draft how has it transgressed to this? Anyone who has contributed, wether for the good or bad, is horrible and pethetic. Easily the worst blog I have ever seen.
In hopes of getting all of you gradschools back on task, IMO, the Falcons should stay put and have the draft come to them. If some “have to have” player falls then, maybe, trade up. Let’s get alot of offensive linemen. We grossly need them.
By GaVaHokie
April 26, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
Well, back on topic, Don Banks just released another Mock Draft on SI.com and he has Atlanta trading up to #2 for Calvin Johnson.
By smh
April 26, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
You know people don’t like Vick when they think Joey Harrington is a better qb. That statment alone shows how dumb some people on this blog are. Honest Abe i really dont get you. You defend the Hawks with passion yet they are no closer to being a playoff team than the Bobcats. How can you defend the Hawks who haven’t made the playoffs or even been a good team in damn near 10 years yet you come on here and bash Vick who in his short career has done more for a franchize in Atlanta than any other player not named Dominique. I love Nique but even when you go back and check the attendance the Hawks still didn’t draw many fans or have much luck. You make some good points every once in a while but come on man be honest the Falcons will be in the playoffs way before the Hawks. The Hawks might lose their pick if its outside of the top 3. People are quick to say Vick is a wr killer but i recall when he made guys like Finneran and some other scrub receivers look good under Dan Reeves. Finneran had over 800 yards receiving that year although he dropped many many passes. Look back at that first Green Bay game that year. Vick wil be good because they will have a vertical passing game which is something he exels in. From the reports on NFL network the new coach is really pushing Vick and not treating him like he is his best friend which is exactly what he needs. I look fwd to the upcoming season. While the Falcons are making a playoff run the Hawks will still be looking like losers and i do love the Hawks but they suck.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
Small Fry, The offer still stands. FYI, after showing them what I had planned, each of them volunteered to do it. I have to say, one young lady who is white was first embarrassed, then enraged by what she saw. They’ll be well compensated, trust me….
By KKK4Life
April 26, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
Airborne Ranger Class 12/86 Grad date 9/86. We also dont refer to the 82nd as THE 82nd Airborne Division as well, we usually call it the 82nd. Just for the record, I served in Regimental HQ, not in one of the BN’S. And the reason for the lengthy description was because we are not speaking to fellow Rangers here, most of them have no idea how the structure works. You were still jumping off a school bus while I was jumping out of C-130’s CHERRY, so dont tell me I couldn’t even carry your ruck sack. I’m not going to insult your service to your country, because if you graduated ranger school in “88” then you and I have probably chewed on some of the same dirt.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
I get now small fry, you actually liked the Wizard of OZ. Stay behind your curtain. Thank you for giving me another idea. Soon, I’ll publish a webpage about this very issue and it’ll will receive even more exposure thus expediting the closure of this forum. Thank you. See you aren’t worthless. Stop listening to all those bad people….
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Did you show them the blog where you were negotiating for anal sex with two transvestite hookers? Were they embarassed by that? Spare us anymore of your nonsense! Publish your name, address and phone number. Then we’ll know you truly are a man of courage and not some anonymous coward.
By honest_abe
April 26, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
smh: what you talkin bout willis? heh… i defend the hawks? err. not really, i know they suck. but i love all the atl teams. call me a homer but i defend all my hometown teams. i love the falcons just as much. that doesn’t mean i dont’ get to criticize a player when i think he hasn’t lived up to expectations. i used to defend mike vick till my head turned blue. but one day the light came on. along with being an nfl starting qb comes a lot of responsibility. whether thats fair or not it’s reality my friend! mike vick in the need to stay “real” has surrounded himself with losers and this has only brought down his reputation. as the hundred million dollar face of a professional franchise i expect a certain level of responsibility and maturity. i have yet to see that from mike vick. if joe johnson acted like mike vick, i’d be criticizing him as well. read the hawks blog more often and you’ll see me kill jsmith. even though he’s one of my fav players when he does somethign stupid, it’s only natural to call him out on it.
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
A$$,
You make less sense with each ensuing post. Get lost! Publish your web page, who cares? I know I don’t. you have nothing to say that’s of any interest to anyone, including Oprah.
By Atlanta Thugs
April 26, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Here are some draft comments about CJ that explain why Atlanta will have no interest in him.
“In fact, for a player of his talent level, there has not been a prospect with less of an ego or more of a workmanlike attitude to enter the draft in years. He acts and wants to be treated like he’s just one of the guys, but he brings such a wealth of ability to the field.”
CJ is an overachiever and doesn’t fit the big attitude profile that Atlanta requires in its underachievers. Instead, they will find another handful of players that think they are larger than life but will play like high schoolers on the field and act like elementary schoolers off the field.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Every post is visible now and forever. They will see everything. They will also see us trying to bring about some humor to the environment. The 4th individual, (perhaps yourself under a new moniker) was responsible for the blatant vulgarity. Get your facts straight and stop trying cloud the facts.
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
A$$,
What is your business, distributing gubment cheese?
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
GaVaHokie, Thanks for the update. See my post @ 12:48p.m. for more.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
Why yes it is? Tell you people that they can only go through the line once and can’t auction it off on EBAY…
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Any bets on if we get CJ, that DeMarrio Williams is traded for a draft pick?
By Newton Minnow
April 26, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
A$$,
You are a fun guy. Take care and I’ll see you again soon. By the way, what does gubment cheese taste like, Velveeta?
By King JEC IV
April 26, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
Weren’t we supposed to be talking about the Falcons’ draft plans? The Falcons should draft an offensive lineman like Levi Brown or Joe Thomas. Calvin Johnson is an excellent prospect. The Falcons do need improved play from their WRs. But I think Vick and the WRs would be better served with better blocking upfront.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Small Fry, See you later. Yes it does taste like Velveeta, but lacks the same “meltability” (new word which I’m now going to copyright like Pat Riley did with 3-Peat. Quite profitable I understand….
By Theedge
April 26, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
With the Falcons cap situation due to several bloated contracts they cannot afford to be too high in the draft. Fill the needs of the team and if they are not taking Landry they should trade down or pick and trade.
By The Truth
April 26, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
MIKE VICK WILL MAKE HIS 4TH PRO BOWL THIS YEAR, AND ALL OF YOU RACIST IDIOTS ARE GOING TO BE SINGING ANOTHER TUNE. I CAN’T WAIT TO READ THESE BLOGS THIS SEASON
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
We were until the alalanche began. I concurr with everyones assessment of the need for lineman, but unfortunately very few will be able to make the impact that CJ will his first year. They say it takes a couple of years to develop a starting lineman, so get them in the later rounds. Our safety will be available in the 3rd via Rouse. San Diego is already eyeing Bush in the 2nd, so that’s not an option. We can get OL, DL, S, and CB help rounds 3 through 7. According to Don Banks, it’s a done deal. The only thing that can stop it is Al Davis. As long as the Dolphins don’t cut Culpepper before draft day, Russell is a Raider. I think D Williams is on the way out on draft day. He becomes an unrestricted agent next year, so the Falcon’s signed him in order to trade him. Look @ Earl Everett if we can move back into the 3rd for a MLB (Brooking can move out) or a kid everyone refers to the next Urlacher, Quincy Black from NM in the 4th. Random thoughts….
By russell
April 26, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
DO YOU WANT TO BE THE TEXANS WHO PASSED UP ON REGGIE BUSH!! DO YOU WANT TO BE THE FALCONS OF OLD WHO LET A LEGEND BRETT FAVRE OUT OF ATLANTA!! DO YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THE TEAMS WHO HELD ON TO THERE PICKS INSTEAD OF TAKING MICHEAL JORDAN!! pay the price that must be paid to win…take a chance like the winners of the past..mr blank you didnt get to where you are today by ‘playing it safe’ nows not the time for that either..VOTE JOHNSON IN ‘07!!!
By Jay
April 26, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
WE NEED HIM!
We can’t let a guy like this past us by. He is a unique talent that will give us a high powering offense as well as a DEEP THREAT!! Ok if we don’t draft him do we really want to face him in our divison going to Tampa Bay. No offense but call D. Hall handle him? You decide!!
By Matt Millen
April 26, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
Listen to me people. You need CJ. All I want is your two second round picks, and Mike Vick. On second thought, you can keep Mike.
By Steve
April 26, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
Whatever the Falcons do on Draft Day, they DO NOT NEED TO trade away their first day picks for one player; especially for a position that we don’t have a gapping hole to fill. I think Laron Landry at #8 is a no brainer; this kid is the closest thing to Brian Dawkins in the Draft. Any Falcons fan ought to appreciate what Dawkins has done to us whenever we have played the Eagles. I still wish we could put together a package deal with the additional second rounder we get from Houston in next years draft, as well as, one of our fourth rounders in this years draft to grab another second round pick in this years draft. There is a lot of talent still available in picks 33-44 that we need to jump on. If we can’t get another 2nd round pick, then I’d use our #39 pick to take the best DE still on the board and the #44 to take the best OL still available. Our 3rd round pick needs to be used to grab RB M. Bush, if he’s still available. He knows Petrino’s system and has the body to play smash mouth football. Before I’d draft him though I would want to make good and sure that his leg will eventually get back to 98%-100%. I REALLY think we need to use our extra 4th round picks to try and move up into the 2nd round for more picks. This draft is stocked with many decent players, but not too many superstars. So don’t waste 1st round money on kids you can sign for second round dollars. The bottom line, we need to address: FS/DE/OL in that order. Then we need to address RB/DT/CB. If MLB J. Beck isn’t going to be more than a special teams player for us then we may need to look for ILB/OLB. Yes, WR is something we will need to eventually upgrade, but the holes on our team are HUGE and they take priority over a once in a lifetime talent like C. Johnson. Look at R. Moss, all kinds of talent, but the teams he’s played on never put it all together to bring home the trophy. Football is a TEAM sport, where you do better having eleven B grade players on offense and Defense, versus 3-5 A grade guys and a bunch of C’s and D’s filling out the rest of the roster…
By Hal from Gainesville
April 26, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
Calvin Johnson will be a star, but he would cost us far too many picks. We need either Landry, Akoye, or Willis at #8, Charles Johnson and Sidney Rice in the second round, and Michael Bush in the third. (He won’t be around at #75, and he can get healthy while Dunn plays.) With our fourth-round picks go for whatever we failed to get in the first round, including big linemen, depth at DB and LB, and maybe a steady place-kicker. Fill the gaps; don’t waste valuable draft choices on a single player.
I’d still trade Vick, plus sweeteners if needed, for Russell if Oakland or Detroit wants to create a buzz. With a pin-point passer throwing to Rice, Jenkins, and White, we might suddenly find we have a passing game. With Al Davis or Matt Millen on the other end of the deal, anything might be possible.
By AU03
April 26, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
I want my Saints to trade up for Calvin Johnson since they lost Joe Horn, but they’d have to give up too much (having the 27th pick and all after going to the NFC title game).
Who dat?
By TTCO
April 26, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
Well today Vick added another couple of titles to his resume. Dog Fighter and Trespasser as well as owning property where drugs and fighting dogs were found. What a joke this dude is!
By Eric
April 26, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this
Did Patrick Kerney catch this much hell when a woman was raped at his residence? Stop the hate! Get behind your quarterback or find another team to torment. I’ll take Vick over Chris Miller, Jeff George, Matt Schaub & Steve Bartkowski!
By Chris
April 26, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this
Couldn’t we trade Vick to Oakland and take Calvin # 1? I don’t care who our quarterback is; I just don’t want him to be involved in dealing drugs and dogfights. What an f-in moron.
By Phatt
April 26, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
I just read Blank has ORDERED McKay to draft Calvin. They have what it takes to move up to the 2 spot, via Detroit. That would be incredible.
By Chris
April 26, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this
Phatt, could you please elaborate? Where did you read this?
By morris
April 26, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
According to the humane society they have known for sometime that vick is a ring leader in illegal dogfighting activity. WOW! This guy just isn’t going to stop until he is involved in a freakin murder or something. Virginia drug enforcement agents say their investigation into the property could be characterized as “major drug trafficking activity”. How long will the falcons and even the NFL put up with this kind of behavior before they say enough. It’s getting harder by the day to try and defend this dude because he just seems to continue to push the envelope. All the vick a* lickers will say he dosen’t live there and this and that. Well that may be true but you would have to be ignorant to believe he isn’t somehow connected to this illegal activity.
By Chris
April 26, 2007 7:17 PM | Link to this
At this point, I’m starting to not care about whether Vick improves on the field or not. It’s OFF the field where he has his biggest problems.
And this came on the heels of his missing an appointment with Congress. This is the U.S. Congress, people. Not Judge Judy.
Does anyone know what the NFL rules are regarding voiding a player’s contract for off-field behavior? I would assume he would have to be arrested or indicted on some charge, but this nonsense just keeps piling up. At what point can the team say, “Enough. We won’t put up with this any longer.”?
By mj
April 26, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this
Hear Mikie the dog whisperer is supposed to be in NY on Sat for the draft with some other VT coachs and players. I feel sorry for AirTrans. They will have to make another excuse for his lame a—! He’s a pitiful excuse for a role model in the NFL world. He’s just so stupid that he can’t surround himself with people that will steer him in the right direction when it comes to decisions and commitments made. Arthur, I gave you more credit than this. You had better win with this Roy Munson at QB or you’ll get run out of town next. Bring back the Clampetts!!!!
By garrett
April 26, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this
Schultz makes sense here, but there’s one thing he’s forgetting: the Falcs have no shot to do anything worthwhile until Vick is gone. He’s a loser and too dumb to be a winning QB in the NFL. Seeing that we’re stuck with him for at least two more years, we might as well get a sure-fire superstar while we can and fill in the holes later. Face it: the Falcs are going to suck until Vick is outta here.
By long time falcon
April 26, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this
Greatest draft of all time? How about the 1974 pittsburg steelers who drafted 4 hall of famers! Not pro bowlers folks, hall of famers. Lynn swann first round, jack lambert second round, john stallworth third round, mike wbster fifth round. The falcons haven’t drafted but one hall of famer in their entire history and pittsburg grabbed four in one draft. Hopefully, mcKay and petrino can make some magic this weekend for falcon fans.
By Dominic Hughes
April 26, 2007 7:38 PM | Link to this
Before a player starts in the NFL nobody, and I mean NOBODY, can be sure they are “can’t miss”. Too many top draft picks have been busts for that not to be true. Even Calvin Johnson is not a sure thing. There are no sure things. The NFL is a new level and every player in the draft is untried and untested at that level. That is a fact, something I like to deal in. And here’s another one: if you want to move up to draft CJ, better start making a list of the players you’ll cut to help meet his salary needs. Then figure out how you fill the holes they leave with the pittance you’re left with under the cap post-CJ. Good luck. Stop worrying about Tampa taking Johnson. Last time I checked, they don’t have anyone who can throw him the ball. Certainly not a QB who will be sitting on his rear if we put together the right defense.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 26, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this
What a bunch of hypocrites. Patrick Kerney’s friend allegedly rapes a girl on his property and nobody cares. Michael Vick’s cousin is allegedly involved in drugs and dogfighting on his property, and the lynch mob is out. ESPNEWS doesn’t even think this is newsworthy enough to include on their bottom line. And yet, this was a front page story not just on ajc.com’s sports page, but on the main page.
Yeah, apparently in the world of the Atlanta Urinal and Constipation, the escapades of Michael Vick’s cousins matter more than punishing policemen for killing an elderly woman, Georgia natives dying in Iraq, or Congress voting to end the war. No, who needs to know about important local and world issues, when we can pass judgement prematurely on Michael Vick’s family members instead?
Unlike the anti-American communist pinkos on this blog, at PETA, and at the AUC, I as an American believe in the American ideal of “innocent until proven guilty”. I don’t believe in passing judgement on other people until the facts are known. If you don’t believe in American ideals, go to Cuba where you belong, where people can be imprisoned indefinitely for crimes they didn’t commit.
By Dominic Hughes
April 26, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this
Najeh, as I recall the AJC also covered the Kerney property incident. Vick’s a more prominent Falcon than Kerney and the AJC is smart to give the story more prominence as a result. The very fact you’re already talking about it backs their judgment. The story doesn’t pronounce Vick or his cousin guilty, it just reports the facts of the allegations. And they are serious allegations. There could be more to come out of this yet.
By Chris
April 26, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this
Najeh, I believe the reason the Kerney situation didn’t receive more attention is that no one can remember another time when he’s been in trouble. As such, people are much more likely to be able to trust the man and take him at his word when he says he knew nothing about the incident.
This is hardly Vick’s first time in trouble. Every time you turn around, either Vick or someone with whom he is associated is in trouble for something. The nonsense just keeps piling on.
It’s actually quite ridiculous that you would even place Kerney in the same company as Vick. The two are worlds apart from each other. Kerney’s character had never been questioned before the incident at his home. Vick has made questionable (often horrible) decisions since he entered the league. He just can’t stay out of trouble.
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 26, 2007 9:29 PM | Link to this
Chris, The information you’re seeking is in Don Banks’ column on CNNSI.com. Apparently it’s legit. The Lions even signed a veteren WR Marcus Robinson today. The only thing preventing CJ from being a Falcon is Al Davis and the Dolphins. If they release Culpepper, CJ’s history and property of the Raiders. Let’s hope not.
By Phatt
April 26, 2007 9:50 PM | Link to this
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL
Blank has ordered McKay to draft Calvin. I can’t wait.
By Me
April 26, 2007 10:02 PM | Link to this
If you’re gonna call Grady “fatboy” you ought to do it to his face. That’s what a man does.
By Dominic Hughes
April 26, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this
I have my doubts about Banks’s report on Blank “ordering” McKay to trade up for Calvin Johnson. I’d like to think Blank is smart enough to know the one thing you don’t do before the draft is telegraph the fact you will go after a player at any price. All he’d have done is make Detroit’s asking price for the No.2 pick a lot steeper.
By Titothebear
April 26, 2007 10:51 PM | Link to this
What the Falcons need is a quarterback! Vick is done.
By bwill
April 26, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this
What!!! I cant believe this, if you could work it out without giving up your entire team to do so, why not do it?, If you dont get either Landry or Amobi, then you need to trade up and get CJ cuz takin Jones at 8 will be a mistake, some people have jones rated as their 20th ranked player on their board. Cj is a once in a lifetime player if you have a chance to get him then you should, but whatever you do please dont let him go to Tampa, so we can remember twice a year how dumb all you guys are who say dont move up to take him. McKay PLEASE DONT BLOW THIS DRAFT!!!!! quality O-linemen can be gotten later in the draft, so could a quality safety, and DE, but there is only 1 Calvin Johnson in this draft.Think about it
By Titothebear
April 26, 2007 11:47 PM | Link to this
Y’all aren’t listening! Mike Vick will never take another snap in the NFL. Mark it down!
By Al Goldstein
April 27, 2007 12:17 AM | Link to this
I have supported M.Vick thru the good and bad times, but a leader must lead or eventually fail. These last 2 acts or non acts by Vick has shown me this young talent is just that, young,and incapable of leading and of not surrounding himself with associates that continue to draghim into the gutter. Forget trading up for Calvin trade up for Ja Marcus Russell
By Peerless' Mama
April 27, 2007 12:21 AM | Link to this
If you want a character guy the Falcons should take AMOBI AKOYE.
Oh yeah, I guess some people will hold his admission that he smoked some weed against him.
He’s from HuntsVegas / Lee High School. While I didn’t go to Lee, I know many a “Lee Boy”…
Even though Lee High School is a magnet school, I guarantee you most of the kids that grew up in those neighborhoods have smoked out at least once.
ALSO:
I’m tired of the black white thing coming up every time a story is posted. What is wrong with you people?
I’m also tired of hearing about how terrible every writer is. These writers are not hacks. Ok, maybe the Chop Chick is…I’ll give you that.
Terrence Moore was the man chosen to pick for the Falcons on the ESPN mock draft tonight. You’re right….They only choose hacks.
These boards needs a moderator.
Anything remotely racist should be deleted.
THE FOLLOWING IS FROM A CLEVELAND BROWNS RELATED SITE:
http://www.browns247.com/4ums/index.php?showtopic=2204
When his family moved to Huntsville, Ala. to be with Okoye’s father, his new school put him back in sixth grade. After just weeks there, his teachers made the determination that he needed to be moved back to seventh grade.
While academics come first in the Okoye family, his dad thought Okoye was overweight. Football started simply as an extracurricular activity. That continued into high school, where he began play with the varsity team as a 12-year-old freshman.
He turned 16 right around the time he graduated from high school and accepted a scholarship offer to attend Louisville. He had a chance to go to Harvard, but, as he said, “My dad was big on me going to Harvard and I was big on playing football.”
“Peerless’ Mama” from HuntsVegas, AL.
By Atlanta Hawks #1 Fan
April 27, 2007 12:27 AM | Link to this
This is bad news coming out of the Falcons concerning Mike Vick. I have supported him through out the controversy at the airport, finger-pointing, and now this. Let’s hope that Mike is not involved with his newphew concerning the animal rights issue.
Rich Guys Trophy Wife http://www.richguystrophywife.com
By Straight$$$$Homie
April 27, 2007 12:45 AM | Link to this
After this mornings issues, I received an email from the folks at the AJC. They assured me that it is not their desire to promote this type of behavior in this forum. They requested that I contact them tomorrow to discuss specifics and that I grant them opportunity to police this before it goes any further.
To anyone who may be upset by the actions I pursued, I’m sorry that you feel that way. However, it is my sincere desire to provide a decent forum for REAL FALCON FANS to engage in team issue related discussions, period. If you have a problem with that, there’s nothing I can do about it. I come here to get news and engage in a free exchange of constructive thoughts regarding my favorite team. Again, I hope this leads to a brighter future within these confines…
By Duce
April 27, 2007 1:12 AM | Link to this
My first post, and the reason behind it is due to the number of people as well as “SPORTS WRITERS” saying it would be dumb to draft CJ. These people obviously don’t know the game of football. When a player of CJ’s caliber comes along, you do every thing possible to draft him, even more so when his position is the position that has been killing us the past few years. I’m a die hard UGA fan, but I would almost go Mike Ditka and trade every pick for CJ if I had to. But we won’t have to, we have 10 picks, trade one 2nd round, and as many as needed after that. If Blank, McKay, and Petrino ever read this, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE trade with Detroit for 2nd pick, and hope to God the Culpepper to Oakland, Green to Miami trade doesn’t happen. CJ is a once in a lifetime freak of nature that in my opinion should go #1, no matter what a teams need are. You don’t just draft players for the upcoming season. More often than not the players rarely play their first season anymore than special teams. Add the fact that Arthur Blank wants people of high morals on his team which is why Warrick Dunn is still around. Calvin Johnson’s character is even better than his football skills. I can understand taking Levi Brown, or Jamaal Anderson if we don’t move up, but with CJ, Roddy, Finneran, as wide outs, Dunn & Norwood, out of the backfield, Alge and even Joe Horn having a possession recievers mind set, The offense will be as potent as any in football under the Petrino system. Vick’s troubles as a passer would disappear, remember how many drops Jenkins, and White had last year alone, not to mention those 2 cannot get seperation from the DB’s even though Roddy started improving in the middle of the season. Falcons please don’t make the same mistake that Houston did by passing on a hometown prospect in Vince Young. The Ticket sales alone would be justify picking CJ. I know I’d get Season Tickets for the opportunity to watch Vick throwing to him every game.
By foxy brown
April 27, 2007 1:35 AM | Link to this
MIKE
By Macadamia Knutt
April 27, 2007 2:14 AM | Link to this
By Straight$$$$Homie April 27, 2007 12:45 AM | Link to this After this mornings issues, I received an email from the folks at the AJC. They assured me that it is not their desire to promote this type of behavior in this forum. They requested that I contact them tomorrow to discuss specifics and that I grant them opportunity to police this before it goes any further. To anyone who may be upset by the actions I pursued, I’m sorry that you feel that way. However, it is my sincere desire to provide a decent forum for REAL FALCON FANS to engage in team issue related discussions, period. If you have a problem with that, there’s nothing I can do about it. I come here to get news and engage in a free exchange of constructive thoughts regarding my favorite team. Again, I hope this leads to a brighter future within these confines…
Did you tell the people at the AJC about your trying to arrange a date with a prostitute on their blog? Also, it’s not mandatory that a person be a “real” Falcons’ fan to contribute to this blog. Did you mention your internet stalking and threatening? You tried to arrange a meeting with me and you ,more than, intimated that harm would come to me if we met. You need to get a life! Bing it on!
By foxy brown
April 27, 2007 3:11 AM | Link to this
SOMEONE please help mike vick!!!!! HE IS ON A SELF DESTRUCTIVE COURSE. THERE IS NO END IN SIGHT. HE NEEDS POSITIVE ROLE MODELS,MENTORS,{ie} WARRICK DUNN’S TYPE. NEEDS A TOTAL MAKE OVER MIND,BODY,AND SOUL. WARRICK DUNN PLEASE HELP YOUR QUARTERBACK -FRIEND? DON’T ALLOW HIM TO DESTROY HIS LIFE?