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The BCS blows it again


Mark Bradley

Michigan has the second-best team in the country, but Florida has had the better season. Michigan stood a better chance of beating Ohio State in Glendale, Ariz., but Florida-OSU represents the better matchup. Does any of this add up?

Of course not.

It’s the BCS.

The BCS was created to ward off a playoff system, created to give the illusion of a legitimate championship game without damaging the sacrosanct bowls. And most every January, that’s what we get — the illusion of legitimacy. We’ll never know if Michigan is actually superior to the Gators, though the belief here is that it is. We’ll know only that Florida swung enough votes by playing on the last Saturday night of the season to outpoll the Wolverines, whose bad fortune it was to have concluded their schedule Nov. 18.

Did Florida deserve to go to Glendale? Unless it finishes undefeated, no team actually “deserves” anything. And even going unbeaten guarantees nothing if you’re not from one of the glamour leagues. Ask Boise State. Why didn’t it get a shot at the Buckeyes? Ask Louisville, which is technically from a BCS league and which finished its season with one-three point road loss, same as Michigan, but finished only sixth in the final BCS standings.

Urban Meyer took much grief for lobbying so hard — the latest round from Lloyd Carr, who coaches Michigan — for his Gators these last two weeks, but Meyer’s lobbying is the key reason Florida jumped above the Wolverines. The “no-rematch” argument was the clincher, even though it seems utterly disingenuous for any Gators coach ever to make that case. The only reason Florida has a mythical national championship to its name is because, 10 years ago, it was granted a bowl rematch with Florida State.

The voters penalized Michigan not because the Wolverines had gotten appreciably worse this last fortnight but because the desire to create a more palatable BCS title game outweighed all else. That’s what happens when voting is involved. Consistency takes a last-minute hike.

This isn’t to say Florida is without compelling merit. It won the nation’s best conference and lost only one game en route. The Gators are a really good team; I just happen to believe Michigan is slightly better. (And I generally give SEC team the benefit of all doubt.) But that’s why the BCS is flawed at its core — it runs on opinion, and reasonable minds can disagree reasonably. The beauty of the NCAA basketball tournament is that opinions play little part in deciding a champion. It all gets worked out on the court.

No matter how hard it’s tweaked, the BCS only gets more tangled every year. On Sunday it was learned that Jim Tressel, who coaches Ohio State, had recused himself from the balloting because he didn’t want to pick his own opponent. As noble as that sounds, Tressel’s self-disenfranchisement surely hurt Michigan: Who’s a better judge of the Wolverines than the last coach to face them? And should a man who has agreed to vote in the coaches’ poll be allowed to pull out just because it becomes politically inconvenient?

We live in a society controlled by politics, which is why we look to sports as our refuge. In sports, the cold reality of the scoreboard carries the day. Except in Division I-A college football, where the regular season ends and the scoreboard gets turned off and clarity disappears.

We’ll never know if Michigan could have taken Ohio State on a neutral field, or if Louisville or even Boise State could have pulled a George Mason in Glendale. We’ll never know because the men who oversee the BCS are more consumed with safeguarding the status quo than with doing what’s right. There needs to be a playoff, but there will never be a playoff.

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By BCSgotitright

December 3, 2006 10:10 PM | Link to this

Flotida had a daunting schedule in a tough conference and came out with their head still attached.

BCS got it right.

Get over it…

By NationalChamps

December 3, 2006 10:13 PM | Link to this

Bradley get over the pups being dominated by the Gators. Virtually all of the national commentators agree that UF deserves it. You are in SEC country and makes these ridiculous comments. Glad you will have to see the PH Factor(Percy Harvin) in Jax next year.

By Max Sizemore

December 3, 2006 10:17 PM | Link to this

Please, let’s not mention Boise State in the same breath with the others. It was exposed athletically (and schematically, on defense)last year when it played Georgia. I would agree that Michigan is probably better than Florida, but the Gators are more deserving based on their schedule. It’s all a moot point, anyway, because Ohio State is clearly the best this season and will handily beat the Gators.

By mel

December 3, 2006 10:18 PM | Link to this

I agree there definately needs to be a playoff system in football like there is in basketball and every other sport in the NCAA division 1-A.

By BCSHater

December 3, 2006 10:22 PM | Link to this

You are exactly right. Boise State deserves more of a shot than Fla. They went undefeated right? Why not Louisville or Wisconsin? Also, how does Fla pass Michigan when Michigan was so far ahead in points?

Fla probably would have lost to Ark if Fish doesn’t try to field a punt at his 3 yard line. It was not a compelling enough victory to justify jumping Michigan.

It all seems fixed to me. The BCS is a bunch of BS. Every year the BCS creates problems and doesn’t solve anything. In my opinion, we should just go back to the old bowl structure and stop trying to create all of these arbitrary match-ups.

By ExpertTexpert

December 3, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this

The premise this whole column of swill is based on is: Michigan is better than Florida. What proof do you offer, Mark? Zero. “I just happen to believe that Michigan is slightly better.” Oh, well, Mark, I’m convinced!

Michigan had their shot. They lost. Now step aside and give the real title contender its shot. And when Florida is hoisting that big glass egg to the heavens come Jan. 8, Mark, I hope you’ll be man enough to retract this swill. But you’ll conveniently forget. You’ll be off somewhere beating the drum for some other ill-conceived, ill-considered, ill-supported agenda.

Wonder if your tune would change if, say, your precious Dawgs were in Florida’s position? Spare us your soapbox rantings. The rest of us will enjoy a title game for the ages; you, Mark, can go mate with a Wolverine.

By Al

December 3, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

Yes they won…but dominated…difine please?

By Bo

December 3, 2006 10:27 PM | Link to this

I agree that BCS is not a good system, but Michigan is not the #2 team and any coach that want lobby for his team is not worth his salt. Get over it and give us some good news about the Braves if you can get any.

By Ugotta B. Kidding

December 3, 2006 10:29 PM | Link to this

And God, I thought Jeffrey was stupid!!! You see folks, this is why the college playoff system is so screwed up…because we have morons like these two that don’t have a damn clue. And a lot of these morons have a vote. Know now why Southern Cal, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Texas and a few other media darlings are always pre-season high picks? It’s because such “sharp football minds” as these vote them up there. (duh-huh!) If you’re an SEC team you’d better not only win the SEC and go undefeated, you’d better beat at least 3 NFL teams along the way to get any respect.

And as a Dawg fan, I hate like hell saying this BUT… GO GATORS!!! Go SEC!!!

Now I’m going to get something to rinse my mouth out!

By Chris

December 3, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

One of the worst opinions ever… UF deserves a shot to play OSU. Michigan had there chance to play OSU. Regardless whether it was on a neutral field or not. And yes, I am a Dawg fan…

By Jax Dog

December 3, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

This BCS hoopla for UM could have been settled if the Big 10 conference would follow suit with the SEC, ACC,and the Big 12 and engage in a conference championship. I do not feel sorry for UM one bit for two reasons 1) Lloyd Carr needs to take a sports marketing class in “How to market your BCS team.” This guy just sat back and pleaded the 5th, when he should have been defending his team’s position! 2) Not having a Conference Championship game hurt UM. College football had another 2 weeks to go when the Big 10 ended their season (Out of sight, out of mind syndrome). Big 10, do the NCAA a favor and have a conference championship game, and maybe then I will have more respect for the conference; that goes for the other conferences as well, and you know who you are! On another note, I am completely appalled with Notre Dame and the favoritism this program receives. SUGAR BOWL???? Give me a break! Notre Dame, do me a favor and join a conference, I do believe the Big 10 has a slot, or should we call it the Big 11.

By Bos Bob

December 3, 2006 10:36 PM | Link to this

Okay, Let’s say Michigan was to play Ohio State in a rematch for the National Championship and that they beat Ohio State. THEN WHAT?????? ANOTHER REMATCH???????? Michigan had their chance and blew it. PERIOD!!!!!End of debate.

By Hairy Dawg

December 3, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

I’m a Dawgs fan, but there’s no way in Hell that the SEC was a really good conference this year. While it may have been considerably better than the Big 10/11, the cream at the top (Ohio State and Michigan) should be able to dismantle any SEC team. The Gators scabbed by all year and, to their credit, won the conference. No one can convince me that the Gators are a better team than Michigan. After all, if the Gators are dominated in Arizona by Ohio State, remember that Michigan lost by three points AT the Horseshoe.

By Ole Dawg

December 3, 2006 10:40 PM | Link to this

Mark, you said it yourself, top to bottom the SEC is the best Conference in the country. It hurts me to say it but in my opinion the Gators deserve it over Michigan for the following reasons regardless of who you think has the best team. The facts are Florida played in the toughest Conference in the land, played the toughest schedule in the nation, and played the extra game that Michigan didn’t have to. How can you take it away from them, they earned it. Maybe that’s the penalty the Big 10 pays for not having a Championship game. I hate pulling for Florida but the strength and reputation of the SEC will be questioned if the Gators lose and it will ultimately hurt all our teams next year. As a bonus to me there’s only one team I can think of that I hate almost as much as the Gators and that’s Ohio State (ok I could go on and create a list but that’s for another time). This Dawg will have to put aside his bitter hatred of the Gators for greater gain, we will have to go after’em that much harder next year and it will be that much sweeter….

By Ugotta B. Kidding

December 3, 2006 10:42 PM | Link to this

You’re right Jax Dog, Notre Dame should join the Big Ten (which has 11 teams???). But then they’d have 12 teams. There’s already a Big 12, so what will the Big Ten (?) be called then, the big 13?

By The Man

December 3, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this

GATOR FANS ARE HOMOS!!!

GATOR FANS WEAR JEAN SHORTS!!!

TIM TEBLOW IS QUEER!!!

OSU WILL STOMP YOU F*GS!!!!

By Leak v. Troy

December 3, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

MICHIGAN, WIN YOUR DAMN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE YOU START CRYING ABOUT PLAYING IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!

WHAT DOES IT MATTER ANYWAY? IF MICHIGAN WENT, THEY WOULD HAVE LOST BECAUSE MICHIGAN NEVER WINS ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL. ALL TIME WINNINGEST TEAM AND NO NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. 1997 DID NOT COUNT. THAT WAS A KISSASS LITTLE AWARD THE SPORTSWRITERS HANDED TO YOU THAT YEAR JUST LIKE THEY HANDED THE HEISMAN TO YOUR LITTLE CORNERBACK THAT YEAR INSTEAD OF GIVING IT TO PEYTON WHO DESERVED IT THAT YEAR.

FLORIDA IS A CONFERENCE CHAMPION. MICHIGAN IS NOT A CONFERENCE CHAMPION. THEREFORE FLORIDA DESERVES IT

IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE, THEN OH WELL. THIS IS PAYBACK FOR 1997 AND YOUR B.S. ACCOLADES YOU WOLVERINES COLLECTED THAT YEAR.

ISN’T THIS JUST LIKE MICHIGAN. CAN NOT EVER WIN A LEGIT NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, SO THEY HAVE TO TRY TO CRY THEIR WAY IN.

WHY IS LLOYD CARR CRYING ANYWAY? DID HE REALLY WANT TO GET THE DISHONOR OF GETTING HISASS HANDED TO HIM YET AGAIN BY TRESSELL?

IF I WERE LLOYD, I WOULD JUST BE COUNTING MY BLESSINGS THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO GET OUTFOXED BY TRESSELL YET AGAIN. HELL, IF HE WENT TO THE NC GAME AND LOST TO TRESSELL YET AGAIN, HE JUST MIGHT FIND HIMSELF OUT OF A JOB!!

I AM WAITING FOR THE CONSPIRACY ARGUMENT: THE BLACK WRITERS GOT TOGETHER AND CONSPIRED TO HAVE TWO BLACK QBS FACE EACH OTHER IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME. I KNOW THAT ONE IS COMING>

By jrmdvm1

December 3, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

The BCS has other problems besides the matchups. The winner of the OSU-UF game is guaranteed the national championship. If these same matchups occur in the “old” bowl system, and say UF beats OSU by 1 point, with neither playing very well, and Michigan dominates USC, under the “old” system, voters might have made Michigan the national champion.

I like the OSU-FL matchup because it gives a chance to compare conferences. I still contend that an SEC school playing what might be termed a 1-A ( Bowl Division ) “patsy” is not any different from playing a conference game against a really weak conference member in a conference that doesn’t have the degree of “parity” shown in the SEC. Which is the easier opponent, Northwestern or Louisiana Tech?

Nothing is solved until we have true playoffs.

By dawgeatvol

December 3, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

LOL! Who are these Gator fans who seem to think that Mark Bradley is some big UGA supporter? Clearly people who haven’t read his opinions/commentary lo these many years. An SEC Champ deserves to be in the title game over a 2nd place Big Ten team every time.

By Dawgs2006

December 3, 2006 10:51 PM | Link to this

I hope the Gators are embarassed by Ohio State. The SEC was down this year. Ohio State will break this down and exposed the Gators as frauds!

I am glad the Gators made it to the championship game. BRING IT ON!!!!!

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

By jarrodmon

December 3, 2006 10:55 PM | Link to this

Trivia question, Mark:

Which team, Michigan or Florida, beat four top 15 teams this season?

Hint: You don’t think they deserve the title game.

By Bob

December 3, 2006 10:57 PM | Link to this

Mark, I agree Michigan is a very good team and Florida is also a good team. There are a lot of unknowns. There is one known…..Michigan LOST to Ohio State. That is fact. Florida did all those other things you talked about. They played a tougher schedule and won a FAR more difficult conference at least this year.

Yes, there was a rematch in 96. But if you happen to recall, Florida HAD to go to the SUGAR BOWL as the SEC Champion. They had no choice, just like Arizona State and Ohio State HAD to go to the Rose Bowl. The Sugar chose the ACC champion because they were the highest ranked team available. (The Big 12 had the Orange hook up and the ACC had no bowl hookup at the time). This game happened by chance and it would not have mattered if Florida beat FSU 100-0 if Arizona State had won their game.

I am a die hard Dawg fan and nothing about me wants Florida to win a Championship, but this is an absolute no brainer. How you or anyone else can say that Michigan is definitively better than Florida is pure speculation. The same was said about Oklahoma over Auburn in 2004. I don’t think Auburn would have beaten USC that year, but I do know one thing. There is no way that they would not have given SC a better game than the Sooners did.

The BCS is a mess, but Florida is the deserving opponent for Ohio State.

By BullDawg Rick

December 3, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

Mark.. Shut up!!!

Good luck to the Gators..

Represent the SEC well..

Bring home the hardware!!!

SEC!! SEC!! SEC!!

By ralph the dawg

December 3, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this

the real outrage is that we are stuck watching boise state and weak forest play on New Years in BCS bowl games. What a way to ruin a great football day with those two jokes of a team. What’s even worse is that one of those scrubby teams is going to be the primetime bowl game on new years. Good god. well, at least, I will have some free time on my hands that day because i am not going to watch those teams play

By ralph the dawg

December 3, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

michigan will go out to the rose bowl and get smoked by USC anyway and the debate will end out there in pasadena a week before the big NC game. There is no way in hell Carroll does not coach circles around the befuddled Carr. The talent and speed of USC will dance circles around those Michigan slowpokes.

By Jax Dog

December 3, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

Ugotta B. Kidding,

How about if we called them the Big Sissy’s? Actually, what to name them is less of a concern to me then who they should bring into the conference in order to complete the conference make-up. I can’t believe the NCAA has failed to mandate equality within the conferences! How can Notre Dame keep getting away with not joining a conference, and playing a pansy schedule every year while still receiving an automatic BCS bid to boot?

By RODAWG

December 3, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

TO PULL FOR THE GATORS WAS SICKENING BUT TO THINK THAT THE SEC WAS GOING TO BE DENIED AGAIN WAS UNFATHONABLE.THE GATORS WILL SLAP THE BIG TEN WITH THE TRUTH.IF YOU CAN’T ADD THEN YOU SURE CAN’T BEAT AN SEC CHAMPION.DUH!

By JDDAWG

December 3, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

Boise State shouldn’t be allowed in the same state as a BCS Bowl. They did not even play one top 25 team the entire year!!! There scedule is rediculous!!!!

By Greg

December 3, 2006 11:11 PM | Link to this

12-1 IN THE SEC IS BETTER THAN 11-1 IN THE BIG 10…GET OVER IT!!!

By smitty

December 3, 2006 11:17 PM | Link to this

MB,

yeah the BCS isn’t fair and #2 could be any number of teams but florida happened to be at the right place at the right time……..what exactly did michigan do that impressed you so much other that playing OSU close ( and it wasn’t that close as michigan scored late)……..hell, illinois played OSU close, lost 17-10, finished with 1-7 conference record, do they deserve a shot at the title?…..michigan did destroy ND but they’re overrated and i can’t wait to see the final score when LSU buries ND…….michigan did its best to lose to Ball State and barely escaped……..and they won a few games in the suspect big ten………..just what did michigan do?………and as far as urban campaigning for his gators, he had to…..the networks, ESPN, ABC, etc, etc had pretty much crowned USC the heir to #2 and made Michigan the runner up (if USC failed) and why?……..ESPN, and Herbstreit in particular, were slobbering all over the wolverines for the past two weeks, i mean, Herby was practically orgasmic describing how incredible the wolverines were (and for the sake of disclosure, the objectively minded Kirk is a Michigan grad)…….let’s just wait and see what happens when the vaunted OSU offense plays a team from a conference that knows how to play defense……..should be a good game….go gators

By Bob

December 3, 2006 11:28 PM | Link to this

Smitty, why don’t you check your facts? Herby is a former Ohio State QB, not a Michigan guy at all. He has his opinion and I respect it. I just happen to disagree with him. You are right about the media prejudice, particularly on ABC but some of the ESPN guys have said that Florida should be the team ahead of Michigan (Mark May).

By Jax Dog

December 3, 2006 11:30 PM | Link to this

I resided in Columbus,Ohio for 4 years and let me tell you, the Buckeye experience was sickening! I watch this team play weekly for one reason; to see them lose. Now, being a Dawg fan makes it hard to root for UF, but two things come to mind as I watch these two undesirable teams pair off. 1) If UF wins, God only knows how hard it will be for UGA to steal recruits( sort of reliving the Spurrier days). 2) If OSU wins,I think the SEC kind of walks away with their tails tucked. We are the toughest conference,and I would hate to see the conference embarassed.

Nonetheless, it should be an interesting game, since these two schools have never met on the football field. Did you know that OSU has never beaten an SEC school? check it out!

By dawgeatvol

December 3, 2006 11:31 PM | Link to this

Smitty….for sake of disclosure, Herbstreit was QB for Ohio State.

By Jimmy

December 3, 2006 11:32 PM | Link to this

Let’s look at the two teams objectively:

* Florida is 12-1.  Michigan is 11-1.  Not much of a difference there. 
* Florida lost to Auburn by 10.  Michigan lost to Ohio State by 3.  Advantage Michigan. 
* Florida has won 5 games by 7 or less (including 2 by 1 point).  Michigan has 1 (Penn State, which had a garbage touchdown at the end of the game to make it look that close).  Advantage Michigan. 
* Florida has beaten LSU at home.  Michigan has beaten Wisconsin at home.  Since Wisconsin's only loss is to Michigan, I call this a draw. 
* Florida beat Tennessee and Arkansas on the road by 1 and on a neutral field by 10, Michigan beat Notre Dame ON THE ROAD by 25.  Notre Dame is ranked HIGHER than both teams, so advantage Michigan. 
* Florida almost lost to South Carolina AT HOME (one missed extra point and a missed field goal at the end) and won by 1.  Michigan rested its starters and let Ball State get back into it and won by 8 at home.  Advantage Michigan.

Florida, you got lucky big time. You will lose by a ton in the national championship game.

By Jax Dog

December 3, 2006 11:37 PM | Link to this

Smitty,

I need to correct you on something. Kirk Herbstreit did not play for UM, he was OSU’s QB back in the early 90’s.

By Jeff

December 3, 2006 11:37 PM | Link to this

Hey Smitty,

You are a moron, Herby went to Ohio State….not Michigan

By Gen Neyland

December 3, 2006 11:38 PM | Link to this

There are those among us who wish plauge and pestilence upon the Gators. Fail they say, and fail large. During the regular season, I’m one of them. Today I’m not. After Auburn was snubbed in ‘04, all we SEC people shared a bit of ire at the haughty BCS snobbery. Now FL gets a chance to redeem our conference on a national level and show the voters the SEC champ does indeed deserve a shot…Any of us 11 left dangling behind Florida this year may be that SEC champ next year looking for the same opportunity Florida is getting, and running the table may not be good enough. Just ask The War Eagle…So I say Go Gators, bring it south…From a Volunteer…

By reza

December 3, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

Mark,let us clear something.Suppose Michigan had to play Ohio State in a remach for national championship. If OSU won (which is very difficult to do) then OSU has not proven anything.They just defeated the same team again.If,Michigan won then what!.The series is a tie 1-1.Then who is the national champion or split the national champion.Further you are asking OSU to beat the same team twice to be anational champion.Rematch does not make sense.For those of you who argue 96 gator remach against FSU.That was acompletely differnt circumstances.The gator had to go toSugare Bowl and they won the chmpionship because the teams ahead of them lost.Go Gators.Go SEC.

By SECISAJOKE

December 3, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

Any true “dawg” fan would never cheer on Florida!!! Giveme a break…”go SEC, represent us well!” What kind of crap is that. You root for your team..not conference. Go Gators!?!?! Are you kidding me dawg fans? Why not have Steve Spurrier over for dinner so that he can remember the good old days of kicking ya’ll a*******es. Or for that matter…invite Urban to the dinner as well!

By Don

December 3, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

Wow Mark, the BCS messed it up just because you “think” that Michigan is better than Florida. I guess maybe Florida and Michigan should play each other and the winner could play Ohio State. My bad, that would be a playoff and too logical of a thing to do. Maybe Michigan and Ohio State could have a rematch in a game called a conference championship game. That doesn’t work because if Michigan one that game they would have to play again in the National Championship game. Michigan had a shot and lost. I don’t care where the game was played. I hope the Gators kill Ohio State. As a die hard Dawg fan I can’t believe I said that.

By Bob

December 3, 2006 11:43 PM | Link to this

Jax Dog, Actually OSU has beaten SEC teams. Back in the day they beat UK twice and they won one and tied one in a home and home with LSU about 15 years ago. However in bowls the are 0-6 (0-3 vs Bama; 0-1 vs UGA; 0-1 vs Auburn and 0-1 vs Tennessee).

By SECSUXS

December 3, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

If I remember correctly, the gators never played a Big Ten team this year, but Michigan did. Granted the team was Vandy, but Michigan won. Not to slight Vandy at all since they beat the mighty bullpups in Athens. Seems like the Big Ten wins this one.

By the man is an idiot

December 3, 2006 11:46 PM | Link to this

Hey “The Man”, have you ever heard the saying “it takes one to know one?”. All you talk about is queers, lesbos, homos, is there some correlation here bud?.

By BIGTEN

December 3, 2006 11:54 PM | Link to this

To the brilliant “Leak v Troy” blogger…where do you get your crazy information. Let me set the record straight…Florida has ONE national championship whereas Michigan has 11…yup ELEVEN NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS!! Not one, not 2, but 11. It’s a proud program which goes unsaid. Whereas Florida has a new coach who is crying to play in the national championship game. What a classless act!!!

By GaSouthAlum

December 3, 2006 11:57 PM | Link to this

All you Florida fans saying Michigan had its shot at a title and blew it, then what does it mean when you lose to Auburn? Apparently that doesn’t mean you blew yours. But you guys blow. His argument isn’t that either Michigan or Florida doesn’t deserve a shot. His argument is that the BCS only works when two teams go undefeated. Otherwise, you have all this mess. Be like every other sport in the entire planet and have a playoff.

By brad in KY

December 4, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this

The voters penalized UM because they’ve already be beaten by OSU. Next.

By jim

December 4, 2006 12:06 AM | Link to this

The Flaw in the BCS is they appoint one of the 4 BCS Bowls as the National Championship Game. This year you only have two undefeated teams and they will not play each other as on one gives Boise State a chance to win anyway. Let’s play the what if game and look at it like this. If Ak had of beat FL then MI would have played OS. So MI beats OS and Boise State beats OK do you name MI and OS co-champions or do you rank them co #2 and Boise State #1. Now that FL has worked their way into a game with OS and happen to beat OS but Boise State beats OK. Fl would be named champs and Boise would be out. Coach Myer was in Boise States shoes at Utah and felt left out by the BCS then but I didn’t see him say “hey wait a minute there are only two teams unbeaten teams they should play for the national championship.” I agree that championships are to be won and lost on the field. Win/loss records should be the first factor in standings and the other factors are to sort out the rest.

By Ray Goof

December 4, 2006 12:10 AM | Link to this

Michigan stood a better chance of beating OSU in Glendale? What the heck are you basing that on? The rather convincing win OSU put on UM earlier in the year? Yeah, that one, the one that was mostly a 2 possession game the whole time. I don’t get statements like that.

Also, if the point of a playoff system that you want so bad is to have the teams play it out on the field, then how are you against UM not going? THEY PLAYED OSU! Maybe that argument would hold up if they had played at the beggining of the year and you argued that the ened of the year is when championships should be determined. But for all those like you advocating for a Plus One (at least) system, you basically got it this year. UM lost to OSU, so now the Plus One is Florida.

The problem is that your whole basis for your position is wrong. UM IS NOT the team most likely to beat OSU. They’ve proved that they are not already. So take the next best team from the toughest conference and let them have a shot. Why is that so difficult?

The real question is what is the purpose of the championship game? To put the two best teams together, or to determine who is the champion? I think it’s to determine the champion. And since it’s at best not clear if UM or UF is the better team (I think UF is the better team), then why not go ahead and let a regular season game tell us that UM is not better than OSU and let UF play? What is the problem with that? Does that make too much sense?

By surfrider

December 4, 2006 12:33 AM | Link to this

This year will be like most in which the Bowls show the Big Ten is overrated. Let’s don’t forget the big media outlets love the Big Ten. Florida will pull a victory over Ohio State and USC will be beat Michigan and here’s the kicker WF could upset Louisville eventhough that maybe a stretch. The truth of the matter is Georgia Tech may have the best team in the country, only if it had a pure passer that was playing QB.

By Jax Dog

December 4, 2006 12:50 AM | Link to this

Bob,

Thanks for the history lesson, but you left one out! OSU went 0-2 against South Carolina also.

By barry

December 4, 2006 12:52 AM | Link to this

If Florida was better than Michagan according to the AP and Coaches poll, why weren’t they voted higher before the SEC championship game? This argument that Florida’s schedule was tougher is lame. It was tougher for weeks while Michigan was ranked higher. This is OPINION and so you lizard skins don’t have any better argument than the Wolverines. We need a playoff system.

By Gator Guy

December 4, 2006 01:06 AM | Link to this

There remain several of you who continue to question whether the SEC is even a “good” football conference, let alone the “toughest in the country,” as many others assert. Okay, here for the record are the final BCS rankings of the Big 10 and SEC teams:

  1. Ohio St. (12-0) Big 10 #1
  2. Florida (12-1) SEC #1
  3. Michigan (11-1) Big 10 #2
  4. LSU (10-2) SEC #2
  5. Wisconsin (11-1) Big 10 #3
  6. Auburn (10-2) SEC #3

  7. Arkansas (10-3) SEC #4

  8. Tennessee (9-3) SEC #5

  9. Penn St. (8-4) Big 10 #4

  10. Georgia (8-4) SEC #6
  11. So. Carolina (7-5) SEC #7

Again, for the record, the Big 10 has three teams ranked in the top 10; so does the SEC.

The SEC has two teams ranked in the second ten; the Big 10 has none.

In remainder of the BCS, the Big 10 has one additional team; the SEC has two.

We can argue about the relative rankings of the teams in the top 10, but one thing is clear: the SEC has greater depth than the Big 10. That’s not my opinion; that’s the collective opinion of 240 informed voters in three major polls and 6 computer ranking systems. Hmm. There may be something to this SEC thing, sports fans.

By Dirty Dawg

December 4, 2006 01:12 AM | Link to this

On a scale of one to ten…quick…tell me just how arrogant will UF fans become if their damn football team should beat Ohio State and give them both football and b-ball. Gad, how revolting will that be? Then again, there’s no way they could get much more arrogant than they already are - we have Steve Superior to thank for that - so 1-10 wouldn’t begin to measure their hubris. I’ll say this, the time they played Nebraska for this thing they were ‘out athleted’ (if that’s a word). This time they may well match up well with OS, and when you can handle the line of scrimage anything can happen.

By Gator Guy

December 4, 2006 01:17 AM | Link to this

… and another thing:

Has anyone else noted that Florida played each and every one of the six other ranked or BCS-rated SEC teams (#4 LSU, #9 Auburn, #12 Arkansas, #17 Tennessee, #29 Georgia, and #38 South Carolina), and beat all of them except Auburn. That’s a legitimate major conference champion. Big 10 #3 Wisconsin still owes the football gods a game with Big 10 #1 Ohio State before Bucky Badger can talk any smack.

By NorCal Dawg

December 4, 2006 01:22 AM | Link to this

Congratulations, Florida. You got your chance. You deserve it. Now don’t embarass the SEC and lay an egg like Auburn did last year against Wisconsin.

Represent!

By Gator Guy

December 4, 2006 01:24 AM | Link to this

Relax, Dirty Dog. Even if the Gators claim national titles in both men’s basketball and football, we will still work to maintain that collective sense of humility that made Gainesville famous. : P

All kidding aside, our kids have one heck of a football game to play before you have to worry about that problem. There may be six or seven patsies in the Big 10, but Ohio State isn’t one of them. If the Gators win this, they are going to have to earn it.

By Gator Guy

December 4, 2006 01:29 AM | Link to this

Okay, I have re-posted this because some goofy MS Word auto-numbering function re-numbered the BCS rankings in my post above …

  1. Ohio St. (12-0) Big 10 #1
  2. Florida (12-1) SEC #1
  3. Michigan (11-1) Big 10 #2
  4. LSU (10-2) SEC #2
  5. Wisconsin (11-1) Big 10 #3
  6. Auburn (10-2) SEC #3

  7. Arkansas (10-3) SEC #4

  8. Tennessee (9-3) SEC #5

  9. Penn St. (8-4) Big 10 #4

  10. Georgia (8-4) SEC #6
  11. So. Carolina (7-5) SEC #7

There, that’s better. Now, you can get the point about the depth of the SEC relative to that of the Big 10.

By NorCal Dawg

December 4, 2006 01:29 AM | Link to this

Please for the love of everything that is holy—Arkansas, please demolish Wisconsin like I know you should.

Everytime I hear a talking head on TV mention how great Wisconsin is (“they should be in the BCS!” “Michigan gave Wisconsin their only loss”)—I want to puke

Please! Wisconsin has beaten NOBODY! They are the least tested one loss team in the history of college football. They need to be shown their place.

By Larry

December 4, 2006 01:29 AM | Link to this

Mark,

Perfectly written article fueled by accuracy and logic. Dissenting arguments are fueled by emotion and/or ignorance.

By Ken Stallings

December 4, 2006 01:32 AM | Link to this

Mark Bradley, allow me to be diplomatic …

you’re an idiot!

Florida has the better team, survived the tougher schedule, and earned the number two position. They won the toughest conference title in the nation. Michigan did not win their conference.

You must be feeling lonely, Mark. That’s the only logical explanation for your column.

By Gator Guy

December 4, 2006 01:50 AM | Link to this

Well, that’s bizarre. The text editor keeps re-numbering the BCS ranking that I have now posted twice. Must be some sort of software conspiracy to re-rank Spurrier’s Gamecocks in th top 11. LOL

I give up. You guys are smart enough to figure it out, even if I’m not smart enough to figure out how to post it.

By TheTruth

December 4, 2006 02:29 AM | Link to this

Your right Mark, Michigan is clearly better……… I guess thats why they almost lost to Ball State. Michigan’s schedule was laughable. The two teams that played them the closest in Ann Arbor were Vandy, and Ball. USC is going to beat Michigan by at least 30, and then everybody gets to laugh some more. Ok, I know after the bowls are over everyone will hate on the SEC because they will probably finish with a 500 record in bowls. Well the reason for that is that the SEC doesnt tie in with the WACs and MWCs of the world like all the other conferences (ACC) Let take a look at SEC opponents. Ohio State - Good Speed Notre Dame - HA Wisconsin - Good matchup Nebraska - Good matchup Penn State - UT wins by 20 Virginia Tech - Good matchup Clemson - Could be SEC loss Oklahoma State - good matchup Houston - not athletic enough

By BCS Is Crap

December 4, 2006 02:42 AM | Link to this

No argment from me, Florida deserves to be in the mythical title game. But, the whole system is crap. Why not take all the conference winners and put them into a tournament. Tell, those teams that want to stay in Div I (Notre Dame), they need to find a conferende that will take them or they go to Div II. There are too many teams in Div I. To many worthless bowls. Give us what we want a real champ. Oh, and no Wild Card or at large bids. You cannot win your conference you should not win the NC. Baseball had it right until Bud Selig screwed it up. But, what the hell, got to sell the airtime. That’s why we have the awful new clock rule. Why should we waste time on the game when we can push more crap people don’t need.

By Big Ten Man

December 4, 2006 04:59 AM | Link to this

Mark Bradley’s comments prove that anyone with enough money can buy a degree from “Degrees-R-Us.” His comments about Jim Tressel not voting are absurd. He doesn’t even know the man yet pretends to know his motives. Tressel is a great coach and a great man. He did the only thing he could do in a conflict of interest situation. You wouldn’t understand this because it takes class and intelligence to see it. OHIO STATE 45 Gator meat 17 GO BUCKS! SEC SUCKS!

By Ron

December 4, 2006 05:09 AM | Link to this

Ok the BCS is pointless except for one thing, putting money in the pockets from the bowls. That having been said, look at Florida’s schedule. Michigan played Wisconsin, Penn State and Ohio State, and a bunch of lower level schools. Florida lost to Auburn, and beat UGA, Tenn, Alabama, LSU and a very good Arkansas team. I will take any of those agaisnt Wisconsin or Penn State. That having been said, lets end the BCS. Division III, II and I-AA all play playoffs. The I-AA playoffs are the best ones running. Top 16 teams with conference tie ins go to playoffs. They used to seed everyone, so one played 16 just like the NCAA basketball tournament. Get rid of the championship games. End all games by the weekend after Thanksgiving. The next weekend is the first round of the playoffs. Top seeds get home field through first and second rounds then go to neutral sites. Heck you could even use the Bowl sites for that. FLorida has played 13 games so far, and will play 14 after the bowl. The winner of the I-AA playoffs will play 15 games, is one more game really all that much? The conference champions would get in to the bracket, but not all conferences. The SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Pac 10, Big East and Conference USA would have guaranteed bids. That would be seven teams then the other nine would be at large. ALL undefeated teams get in even if it is a smaller conference school, then at-large by the best schools available. Everyone has a shot then.

By charles collins

December 4, 2006 06:57 AM | Link to this

This would not be a issue if the Big ten Conference would go to two divisions and face off in a conference championship. Winner plays for the title the loser goes to a BCS bowl. How complicated is that for an answer a future problem in the Big ten.

By Dbow

December 4, 2006 07:05 AM | Link to this

Bradley - you blew away any credibility you ever had mid-season when you started blowing Ga. Tech’s trumpet. Go back to Kentucky - NOW!

By nodoginthisfight

December 4, 2006 07:14 AM | Link to this

Michigan says it shouldnt be penalized for staying home saturday. bull. play a championship game in the big ten on a neutral field like they do in the sec, acc, big 12 and have your champion. then michigan could have met florida if it would have beaten osu.

By SnarkySnake

December 4, 2006 07:39 AM | Link to this

Gosh Mark, Where to start… You’re wetting your pants here because there are “politics” involved with the selection of Florida to play OSU for the “National Championship” in Glendale next month.(Conferred by the media,polls and God knows what all else).Fine. You want to talk politics,Mark ? Have you noticed how the various outlets (including the AJC) who have some vested interest in this conference or that conference,this team or that team,are all trying to push their one loss team into this game? Could it be for the truly staggering amounts of money that they (the team and the network) will make? While you are on your moral high horse,Mark, why don’t you also explain why there can never be a playoff because it would be controlled by the NCAA,not the bowl committees of the various venues.That way,there would be some oversight and accountability for tickets,team expenses etc…That the playoff system would cripple the practice of granting all expense paid junkets to warm weather sites in wintertime to “Athletic Staff”,”Faculty Representatives” and “Supporters of the University” (Politicians,Big Money Boosters and other assorted hangers-on).These parasitic contingents almost guarantee that the athletic department will at best break even or actually lose money on a trip to a minor bowl.All of these leeches will get more suitable accomodations than the players,by the way.Mark,why don’t you just come out and say the truth,that the bowl system has evolved into a way to reward boosters and athletic department employees in a way that the IRS can’t touch ? Oh, Mark, one last thing,while you are coming clean about the whole bowl scene,why don’t you also tell everybody why Urban Meyer seems to be the only guy bellyaching about the system that we are stuck with ? Unless your team is left out of the big money game,there’s really no reason to cry too much. See,another reason that the fans that pay for the whole thing don’t get a playoff,is this dirty little fact : The vast majority of teams would’nt get into the playoffs.That means no raise after a 7-5 season and a win in the MPC Computers Bowl in beautiful Boise,Idaho.As it stands now,These minor (some would say insignificant) bowls are a way to keep mediocore coaches (Chan Gailey,anyone ?) around for a few seasons.They can go to the bowl sites and chat up the boosters and make them feel important before sleepwalking their way through a game that is not much better than a dress scrimmage. I don’t know what the bowl system is,but it ain’t football. Just my two cents

By Dawgguy

December 4, 2006 07:48 AM | Link to this

Hey I am a huge UGA fan and I just want to say, “GO GATORS!”. Make the SEC proud and show everyone how we play ball in the south.

By Brad

December 4, 2006 07:49 AM | Link to this

Mark: You are a big P*SSY! Get your fist out of your a$$ and move on. Your gay boys from Ann Arbor had their chance against OSU and blew it. Next!

By troy vs. leak

December 4, 2006 07:49 AM | Link to this

Hey BIG TEN guy,

ncaa records show that michigan has won 6 or 7 national championships, depending upon how you calculate records prior to 1950. Michigan has only 1 NC since 1948 and that was handed to the them in 1997 because they basically won the 1997 national media darling of the year award. you have to base your championships on the AP, UPI, and the BCS. if not, then Auburn could claim they were national champions two years ago. Tuberville said he would just have a golf magazine claim him champ and he would take credit for it. Hell, Alabama claims to own about 12 national championships although they have only legitimately won I think 6 or 7 real national championships.

That national championship in 1997 was not a real legitimate national championship. That was more of the kissass national handout championship in 1997. Michigan was the media’s darlings that year for whatever reason and the media made sure they handed Michigan whatever Michigan wanted. Don’t feel bad Wolverine fans. It happened alot in the 1990s. The media loved Bobby Bowden in 1993, so they handed FSU the national championship even Notre Dame had the samme exact record and Notre Dame had beaten FSU that year. The media created the whole oh poor Bobby, he’s such a good coach and he has never won a championship, so let’s hand him one because Bobby winning one finally would make all of us in the media a heck of alot of $$$$$$. The funny thing is that Bowden did not need it to be handed to him. he would win one legitimately later on in the 1990s.

The same thing happened in 1994. Penn State was the best team in the country that year. But Nebraska was the media darling for the same reason. Oh, poor TOm Osborne, he’s been a good coach for so long and he’s never won one, so let’s hand him one because that would be the feel good story of the year. So, the media handed it to him although Penn State was clearly equal to or better than Nebraska that year.

And then in 1997, poor Bo, he never won one and Michigan has never won one in the last 50 years since like 1948, so let’s do everything we have to do to hand it Lloyd to make up for the fact that Bo could never lead his team to the promised land. Nebraska was clearly better than the Wolverines that year but it does not matter. There is nothing the media loves more than the whole long suffering fan base with a coach they love to kissass with with a team that has not won in ages. So the media creates the story and runs with it and never lets truth and reality interfere with a good story.

Again, Michigan did not win their conference championship. therefore, they do not deserve it.

And do not cry about classless. Florida hired urban meyer to do precisely what he has been doing. winning games on the football field but also being the face of the program and school who will fight to the end to get his team and school the respect they deserve. AND I HATE URBAN MYER AND FLORIDA MORE THAN ANY OTHER COACH AND PROGRAM! Besides, I think I heard more than once this weekend, people in the media using the whole michigan p.r. campaign, give it to us so that we can honor the legacy of BO. And that isn’t classless. You guys are dragging around a casket trying to use pity to get yourselves in the big game. Well, the wolverines and the media got one thing right: michigan truly will honor the legacy of Bo this year by not winning another national championship just like BO Never won a NC.

Arkansas will stomp.

USC will stomp.

LSU will stomp.

AND the Gators will chomp.

the big ten will prove what a joke it is.

By Brad

December 4, 2006 07:51 AM | Link to this

Mark: You are a big P*SSY! Get your fist out of your a$$ and move on. Your gay boys from Ann Arbor had their chance against OSU and blew it. Next!

By MOC

December 4, 2006 07:59 AM | Link to this

This Dawg fan supports the BCS selection of Florida. Florida won the SEC people. The toughest conference in the land. They played more games than Michigan. Michigan was BEATEN on the field by Ohio State! Rematches never live up to the hype. Does anyone remember the UF-FSU rematch for all the marbles? UF stomped them. Besides, any team desiring to compete for the NC should level the playing field for themselves and put together their own conference title game. Notre Dame needs to get off the pot and pick a conference. They are a natural fit for the Big Ten. But we know that they won’t because they have too sweet a deal already.

By Tony

December 4, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Other than a Michigan fan, I don’t see how anyone can objectively say a runner-up in a conference should play in the national title game over the SEC champion with the toughest schedule in the country. I am a Vol fan, and hate Florida 365 days a year, but they deserve to play in the game. I will agree on one thing: until there is a playoff, all national championships are mythical. However, until that happens I absoulutely oppose anyone playing for the national championship when you don’t win your conference. Period!

By smitty

December 4, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

my bad on herbstreit and the michigan connection….meant to write OSU to mention the big ten connection…..and espn analysts in favor of florida only recently became converts

By Dan

December 4, 2006 08:14 AM | Link to this

Does Florida deserve it? Hard to argue. Does Michigan? Also hard to argue. What is near impossible to argue against is that Ohio should not have to beat Michigan twice, and that earned status trumps the others BCS got it right

By Greg Baer

December 4, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

I’m glad there is no rematch. If the Big 10 had a championship game, this would be a mute point. Every game of the regular season should be played as a championship game. Michigan had their shot and didn’t get the job done. Top to bottom, the SEC is a much, much stronger conference than the Big 10 this year.

By Leo

December 4, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Hey Mark,

I hope you defended the choice of putting Oklahoma in the championship game over USC in 2003. I’d hate for you to look like a complete hypocrite.

By Peach State Sports

December 4, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

The BCS will have it right at the end of the season…….. It was created to crown a true National Champion…..Ohio State. They have won every game this year, including beating Michigan. They are the best team in college football THIS year. They will beat Florida and be undefeated National Champions… Makes no difference who they play…..Bring on the playoff system but until then…give the Buckeyes their due this year.

By alex

December 4, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this

I realize that it’s your job to write outlandish articles to get people’s ire up. but if Michigan had been chosen over Florida there would have been ten times more infuriated scribes like yourself writing about the ultimate injustice. so, although you’re entitled to your opinion, you know darn well Florda deserves this more than a team who has already lost to Ohio State en route to not being a conference champ. period. end of discussion.

By brewerfaninATL

December 4, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

Hey NorCal Dawg,

Uhh, don’t get your hopes up for the Hogs against Wisconsin. The Hogs have already hit their peak and are on a steady nose-dive, whereas Wisconsin will be well rested and ready to make it 2 straight over the SEC. OK, you say Wisconsin didn’t play anybody? Well, let’s take a look at the joke that is UGA’s schedule. W. Kentucky—give me a break, UAB—horrible, South Carolina—mediocre at best, Colorado—sucked something awful, and you should have lost, Ole Miss—terrible, Miss State—worse than Ole Miss, Tennessee—getting better, but not great, Vandy—horrible, and you lost, Kentucky—horrible, and you lost, Florida—finally a good team, Auburn—good, but overrated, GA Tech—vastly overrated. Talk all you want about Wisconsin and our flimsy schedule, but at least we didn’t lose cupcake games to Vandy or Kentucky, and barely squeak by Ole Miss, Colorado, or Miss State. Our loss was to Michigan at The Big House and, outside of a scare against Illinois, we took care of our business at hand. It will be 3 Big Ten/SEC match-ups and the Big Ten will win at least 2 of them…shoot, Penn State may even make it a clean sweep over ho-hum Tennessee!

By Eric

December 4, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

Auburn beat Florida and LSU, they’re ranked 9th in the BCS and yet they don’t get a BCS bowl. That sucks!!!

By paul

December 4, 2006 08:38 AM | Link to this

i don’t care if the big ten has a championship game or not. i think that you just need to win your conference no matter how your conference determines who the conference champion is. you can’t be a national champion if you are not even a conference champion - at least, that is, in the current nonplayoff format.

By test

December 4, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

Can someone explain something to me. When Ohio beat Michigan early of the year, AP poll didn’t change. They were both ranked #1 and #2 before and after the game. What gives?

Let’s say that if Ohio and Michigan played early instead of at the end of season. Had Michigan lost at that time, would MI dropped out of top 5 or top 10 ranking?

By jackets fan

December 4, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

All this “not fair” talk is mute in my opinion. Michigan had their shot, and even though it was by 3 points, they lost. You can’t cry fowl if you didn’t get it done on the field. How fair would it be to Ohio State to have beaten Michigan to win the Big Ten, only to lose by 3 points and lose the national title? Ohio State doesn’t have anything left to prove about Michigan. Does that mean Florida is a better team than Michigan? Of course not. But Florida has one loss just like Michigan, a conference title and has not lost already to Ohio State. Why is it a crime for them to be in Glendale? Louisville has one loss as well, but they had to back in to the Big East championship, by having Rutgers lose to WV. Oklahoma won the Big 12 title game, but had to back into that spot, by having Texas lose in consecutive weeks to Kansas St and Texas A&M. Wake Forest was a nice story, but no one wants to see WF be led to the slaughter against the Buckeyes (or GT had they won the ACC). USC beat some really good teams, perhaps a better list of wins than anybody else, but they couldn’t beat UCLA when it mattered most. So why is Florida such a controversy? I don’t think a team can be the national champion, if they couldn’t even win their conference. Especially if the team that DID win their conference is the other potential participant. USC should have been in the title game versus LSU instead of Oklahoma a couple years ago. I don’t think that will happen again. After all, it was crap like that, that led to the severing of the AP poll’s involvement in the BCS process.

By mart

December 4, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Mark, you state that “we’ll never know if Michigan is superior to the Gators,” which is beside the point. What we do know is that Ohio State is superior to Michigan, which is why it makes no sense for OSU to replay them. Now let’s find out if the Buckeyes are superior to Florida.

By yellowblood

December 4, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

TO: Hairy Dog: You nailed it !!! The SEC was creepy this year. How do you exist among these SEC freaks ? Lets just forget about which team is best and decide which conference is best. Take one trophy, cut it into 12 pieces and give it to them. Drop the “national championship” award and call it “conference national championship award” Pick the best players from the

1 conf and let them play again the best players from the #2 conf. That should settle it. Then we would know what the best conference is.

Also, just for my UGA friends, I think the BCS formula should include a numerical rating for recruiting. UG would always get some extra points on that one. The problem is it never translates to a championship.

By paul

December 4, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

but eric, isn’t watching lesser teams like boise state, wake forest, and notre dame on january 1 bowls just so interesting to you…..NOT! i, for one, will not be watching those bowls. Maybe if the networks and the advertisers and promoters behind these bowls finally get hit hard, this bowl silliness will go away and we will finally get a playoff system.

I think the majority of Division I neeeds to be excluded from any potential playoff system. notre dame needs to be told to finally go find a conference. the conference champions of each conference square off in the playoffs. Only 6 teams make the playoff. Two teams get a bye. Big East, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, Pac 10, ACC. The conferences for the two teams that appear in the national championship the year before get the first round bye. So, for example, this year, because florida and ohio state are in the national championship this year, the conference champions for the SEC and the Big 10 next year would automatically get first round byes next year in my playoff system.

This would be the current playoff system under my playoff format. Oklahoma and USC would have first round byes because the BIg 12 and the Pac 10 were in the big game last year. Louisville would play Florida with the winner to play Oklahoma. Ohio State would play Wake Forest with the winner to play USC and so on and so forth. I think that would the the fairest playoff system there could be, with respect to the conferences and their champions, and would also maintain the integrity of the regular season by making every regular season game all that more meaningful because if you win the confernece championship, you have a 1 in 6 shot of winning the grand prize.

I just wasted my time writing that. It makes too much sense to ever happen and it will never happen

By J Garland

December 4, 2006 08:57 AM | Link to this

If the media had the last word, the BCS championship would be Notre Dame’s A team vs. Notre Dame’s B team for the the national championship.

By Gene

December 4, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Money rules college sports. More people will watch FLA/OSU than would watch MICH. UF has a good chance, though, and it is a game that I won’t miss.

By Matt

December 4, 2006 09:11 AM | Link to this

Nobody who can only beat Vandy by 6 should be in a national title game. OSU will KILL Florida.

By SEC

December 4, 2006 09:13 AM | Link to this

Can Wake really go to a BCS bowl if there were no witnesses in the stands to verify they beat Tech. How sorry for the ACC.

By Don

December 4, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

Sorry Mark, when you called Georgia the “standard bearers of the SEC” about this time a year ago you revealed yourself to be an idiot with regard to all college football matters.

Is this a pathetic attempt at payback because the Gators own the Dawgs and your hero Mark Richt?

By Jeff

December 4, 2006 09:27 AM | Link to this

I think he writes these ridiculous articles just to stir people up. He should be writing obituaries instead of sports articles.

By Tom Coe

December 4, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

If one reads your column, then pauses to reflect; most adults who can reason beyond their own school and conference preferences, will agree…the current BCS system is greatly flawed if the objective is to have a true “National” champion. The NCAA lets the 1-AA and other sports settle the matter with competition. 1-A football should be the same. Students, many at institutions with better academic ratings that the top football schools seem to manage to handle play-off and tourney play without creating a “crisis in higher education”…why not 1-A football. All the current bowl system does is provide interesting conversation and debate, and provide the NCAA with financial windfalls from the “naming” rights to bowls. When it became the Nokia Sugar Bowl, the Chick-fil-A Bowl, etc., then every burg on the planet wanted a bowl game. With the records of some of the bowl teams this year, most of the games should be sponsored by Kohler and be aptly named the “toilet” bowl.

I hope to live long enough to see at least an 8-team 1-A playoff to crown the national champ.

T. Coe

By cly

December 4, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

The Gators will surprise you and alot of other people and beat Ohio State. Betcha…..

By Frank Gilley

December 4, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

Mark: BCS is not great but its major problem comes from shallow voters like you and other ignorant sports writers.

By Cottoneye Joe

December 4, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Jeff, Bradley couldn’t write an impartial obit, that’s why they put him in the sports dept.

By Patp

December 4, 2006 09:54 AM | Link to this

Playoff - no brainer - only way to crown True National Champ. How is the ??? - too much $$$ being made is why it will never happen. Florida deserves shot as much as anyone. Having Michigan stay #2 after a loss was a joke - they would have been blown out - if Smith had played even a average 2nd half. OSU_MIch was not the great game everyone made it out to be - turnovers, mistakes, etc. USC-Texas was far better. No #2 from a conference should ever play in a paired Nat’l title game. Florida, and the SEC for that matter - deserves their champion to be in the Title game. I predict an another ugly Florida win - but none the less a Florida win (they are that good). OSU is very good - but their D - like USC last year - is not that good. If Smith plays like he did vs. Mich. in the 2nd half - Florida wins. If he plays like he did vs. Texas - then OSU can win.

Like I started this - Playoff - only way to know 100%.

By Doug

December 4, 2006 09:55 AM | Link to this

I’d rather have a playoff than the current system, but if we can’t have that then I’d be perfectly happy if we went back to the way things were before the BCS. Were split national titles really that bad? Heck, that problem was supposed to be solved by the BCS and it hasn’t been (USC/LSU in ‘03, ticked-off Auburn fans the following year). If Ohio State loses to Florida, there are just going to be more debates about whether Michigan could’ve beaten OSU in a rematch, whether they could beat Florida, etc. etc. etc. And nothing will have been solved.

By WallStBro

December 4, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this

Yeah Florida had that “daunting” schedule. Let’s see, Western Carolina, Florida State, BAMA, and the struggle against Vandy. Yep that’s a daunting schedule. GET REAL!! The primary reason Florida is there, is because the p*ssy writers and coaches don’t want a rematch!! It didn’t help that punk azz Urban Meyer whined like a little beeeeeotch!

By JP

December 4, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

Mark - do a little more research when you talk about the FL-FSU rematch in 1996.

After the 1996 regular season loss to FSU, UF fell to #4.

FSU was #1, Nebraska and Arizona #2 and #3.

Both Nebraska and Arizona lost prior to the FSU - UF Sugar bowl, thus setting the stakes for the UF to claim the MNC with a 32 point win over FSU.

Also, just becasue you feel Michigan is better means nothing. Try using some facts OK? You’re as bad as the voters in the system you complain about.

By Big Ten realist

December 4, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

I’m a Big Ten fan, and having grown up in Michigan, a U of M fan. I have NO problem with UF being in the championship game, and mainly for the well-stated reason that they played a much tougher schedule. However, I get tired of one of the other arguments that is just plain lame, “they can’t even win their own conference”. What a load. There are, occasionally, years when the best two teams are in one conference. So, in the SEC apologists minds, if the #2 team gets beat by the #1 team, and they happen to be in the same conference, we don’t want those teams to play again? We’d rather see another team regardless of how good the #2 team is. Ridiculous reasoning.

Like I said, though, the 12-1 record with the toughest schedule IS a worthy argument, and I’m glad to see the SEC get their shot.

Now I’ll do my best to sound like a brain-dead, ignorant red-neck SEC blogger: “I’m so glad (spit tobacco here) that UF will be playing OSU. They gonna get they a_ _ spanked all over the field (beat wife here). They think they conference is the best (mow grass under refrigerator here). OSU gonna whoop up on Florida…Wisconsin gonna whoop up on dem pigs…just like they done to Auburn last year (adjust tank top here).”

By Kevin

December 4, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

In my opinion, unless they were to win in a playoff system, no team that finishes second in their conference should even sniff the national championship game.

By gatordad

December 4, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this

OSU is over-rated….. Northern Illinois. Bowling Green. Cincinnati??? No Wisconsin…. No PAC-10 opponent…. No SEC opponent…..

Submitted for your approval… OSU:Opponents Ranked in Top 25: 2 Oponents with Winning Records: 5 Minor Conf. or 1-AA: 3

BCS Schedule Strength:

Sagarin 38 Anderson Hester 34 Colley Matrix 44 Massey 31 Avg. 36.7

They gave up 39 points and 400 yards at home vs. Michigan, just 2 weeks after squeaking by 2-10 Illinois.

With the original BCS schedule strength adjustment (.025 per sched strength point), OSU would be 3rd and Florida and Michigan would go to Glendale.

One more point: if you have the technology, split-screen the OSU-Michigan game with the Florida- Arkansas game. The Big 10 game looks like it was on slow speed setting.

Gators will chomp OSU,and the Buckeye’s will be popping out of their heads trying to keep up with all that speeeeeed!!!.

By gatordad

December 4, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this

Hey ugotta B:

You are the best! Good for you and hope that mouthwash tasted great(now go chase it with some Jack!

By BB

December 4, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

National Champs, if you know anything, you’d know that Bradley is a UK guy. That said, Florida won the SEC championship. Michigan finished second in their conference after losing to Ohio State in a game that really wasn’t that close. If memory serves, they scored with a minute or so left to cut the margin to 3. Though they eat boogers, good luck to the Gators.

By big dave

December 4, 2006 10:15 AM | Link to this

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE BIG 10 AND THEIR TOP 3 TEAMS?? Ohio State beat 2 ranked teams, that’s it!! Michigan beat 2 and 1 was Notre Dame, which barely counts. That’s right Mich also beat Wisconsin, a team that PLAYED 1 RANKED TEAM! and it was MICHIGAN! Not only does UF deserve to be in the title game a couple other SEC teams probably do as well, they at least played other teams that are worth a dang.

By jeff

December 4, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

Hey WallStBro,

You’re right, Michigan had the “tough” games against Centrat Michigan, Ball State, Vandy, Mishigan St & Northwestern .. WOW!

By gatordad

December 4, 2006 10:20 AM | Link to this

Mark-

Even a dead clock is right twice a day….but you my friend are NEVER right! Even Mark Frickin’ MAY got it right and has changed his mind, but YOU….you never will…

To all those Dawg and Vol fans standing up and being heard…I say THANK YOU..You have a lot of class even when you hate the Gators…now THAT”S something to be proud of! GOOOO GATORS1

By gatordad

December 4, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Heyy BB-

Those Boogers are GOOOOODThanks for the props!

By gatordad

December 4, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

“THE BCS is flawed to the core because it is based on OPINION?”…or so you say? Ok Mark, then, by your own argument, YOU are FLAWED to the CORE!!!

By David Bradshaw

December 4, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

I cant believe what I am hearing..ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND MARK…???? I am a UGA fan=I HATE FLORIDA.!!!!! BUT they are representing the best conference in the country=THE SEC=THEY GET SCREWED EVERY YEAR!!!! This year the BCS got it right..!!!! I hope now that the Gators are able to take apart the USELESS NUTS from that nasty hole of a town they are from…I HATE OHIO STATE THE BIG TEN AND THAT HORRIBLE SWEATER VEST TRESSEL WEARS… and people made fun of AMATOS GLASSES… PLEASE… GO GATORS..BRING IT HOME FOR THE SEC…I HAVE ALL NEXT YEAR TO HATE YOU GUYS AGAIN…SEE YOU IN JAX…GO DAWGS !!!!!

By WallStBro

December 4, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

Jeff, first Big 10 fans have not been bragging about difficulty of schedule, unlike the crybaby SEC fans. Since you went there, let’s point out that Florida struggled with Vandy, while Michigan kicked the Sh!t out of them. As for Central Michigan, they did win their conference, which according to SEC fans is the true measure of a champion. As for MSU and NW, every conference will have some weak teams.

By jeff

December 4, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

But Florida DID: 1) Win their conference title 2) Arkansas, Tennesee & Georgia (all 8 win or better teams) on neutral or opponents field 3) Beat 5th ranked LSU 4) Beat SC & Kentucky (7 win teams)

Sincel ALL schools have patsies, look at the overall conference strengh.

Three SEC teams in the top ten (Florida, LSU & Auburn) and three Big Ten (OSU, Michigan & Wisconsin).

Michigan is 1-1 & Florida is 1-1.

Therefore, look at the REST of the conference schedule & the Big ten is WAY inferior to the SEC.

Advantage, Florida

BTW….Michigan already showed it cannot beat OSU.

By David Bradshaw

December 4, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Hey Bo, Here is your news about the Braves…JS did not sign Glavine but instead they signed a POWERHOSE LOSER Tanyon Sturze..Wow …There’s a cool million down the drain…!!!!

By Louis Vales

December 4, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Dear Marcus, You write about a city whose 4 pro sports teams have won ONE World Championship since 1966. I can understand your fraustration and disgust and how it may color your verbiage. Why don’t you recuse yourself from all sports commentary and turn to topics of social interest.

You live in a great city whose sports teams just happen to be reprehensible when it comes to winning anything—I know 14 Division Titles, and I also know the marlins have won more World Series in last 10 years than Braves have won in 41 in Atlanta—maybe you should move somewhere you can celebrate something with your prose.

By gator in texas

December 4, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Go Gators! Conference champions! Go Wolverines! Conference Runner-ups?

Give us a play-off system!!!!!!!!

By Alex

December 4, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

Michigan fans…your team finished second in your conference? SECOND. Do you really want a repeat of the last time, when a team finished second in their conference and somehow snuck into the championship game? Nebraska flashbacks in 2002 anyone?

Stop your fraking crying and accept it…Your Wolverines are the second best team and are still going to a pretty awesome bowl game to match up with the USC trojans, where they will have their collective a**es handed to them by Pete Carroll and company!

Florida won the SEC. It has 1 loss, it should go to the National Championship game over a 1 loss second place Michigan team! End of argument. Only Conference Champions of the big “six” should be considered for that national title game!

By patp

December 4, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

TO Big Ten Realist: No #2 conference team - ever playing for a Nat’l Title via a BCS type pairing - SHOULD EVER happen - period. If in a playoff - great - all for that. Given the current system - Michigan had their chance - they lost - it wasn’t really as close as the final score would indicate. I am not an SEC fan by any means - but given the current B(c)S system - Florida is the best choice - for that matter - I would have been fine with Louisville (even if they did back their way in) - they are just as deserving - and a great team.

If there was a playoff - like in all other NCAA football divisions - then SEC, Big 10, - whomever - could truly strut their stuff. 16 teams - only way to be fair - like all other NCAA football.

By nebraskafan

December 4, 2006 10:53 AM | Link to this

real shot at buckeyes topping our blowout of over-rated gators in championship game a few years back

By TallaDawg

December 4, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

It is simple, Mark. The OSU-Michigan game was not close; Michigan lost, which means that they DID NOT WIN even their conference. Michigan had their chance. I think the early final game was an advantage, because they did not risk another loss. That being said; teams in a conference without a championship game should be required to play their last game no earlier than Thanksgiving weekend.

Even if you think Michigan is better than Florida, which I do not, Florida is the next team to earn a shot at OSU. I agree the FSU-UF rematch was a mistake, but two wrongs do not make a right.

Boise State will get their tails kicked in the bowl game and show, once again, that their really is a difference between the BCS conferences and the next tier of teams in college football.

By redddawg

December 4, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Bradley, for years I thought you were a complete moron. Thanks for letting the rest of the world know also.

By Big Ten realist

December 4, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

PatP; So do you really think if Florida went into the horseshoe as Michigan did, they have any prayer of winning? Oh that’s right…the SEC is the best conference, so they would absolutely kill OSU.

Gatordad; get a life, technogeek. OSU was in slow motion? REALLY…I guess all of the teams that have been trying to cover Ted Ginn Jr and Gonzales must be really, really slow.

By Big Ten realist

December 4, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

TallaDawg; It is going to be so very, very funny watching UF get their collective butts handed to them by OSU.

By missouri tiger

December 4, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

Mark Bradely’s point is exactly correct and to criticize him is ignorance. Let’s face it, every other SEC team gets screwed in these situations. Just ask Auburn. Florida always seems to rise in these situations. The only legitimate shot they were given a shot at a national title was 1995 and they were Throttled by a superios Nebraska team. In 96 they were given the benefit of a rematch of their final game which they lost handedly. Why don’t we just cancel the Ohio State game and give it to those Gators. At least the UF fans think that would be the right thing to do. Bradley is correct, your 96 title is mythical and given the way the ball bounces your way, so will this one. How about this, schedule some real non-conference teams and settle it on he field. Afraid you may lose if you don’t play a Western Carolina? The SEC is down this year and there is no way it is the nations toughest conference. Don’t get me wrong I don’t think Michigan should automatically get it either. But to hear you gators bashing a man for telling about a flawed system that has been manipulated by your coach and has benefitted you so greatly over the years makes me sick. Go Buckeyes!

By JD

December 4, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Boise State beat Oregon State by 28 which beat USC.

By kelly

December 4, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Well, the BCS really can’t get it right. I know there are rules about number of teams in a conference and a title game, but here’s something to consider that’s rarely brought up. Yet these things have much to do with the outcome of the season.

How can there even be a semblance of fairness when, (1) different conferences play different amounts of games, with some having a championship game? It doesn’t make sense.
(2) preseason rankings are a joke. it sets the season off with bias. rankings should appear until the first week of october, after we’ve seen these teams play. until the BEGINNING of the season is approached correctly, the end of the season will never pan out. it’s an absurd proposition to think otherwise.

By Dawgie

December 4, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Hey Mark, did you watch the USC-UCLA game Saturday night? Terrific game. Huge upset. Unparelelled drama. But it’s too bad we don’t have a playoff, which would have rendered that epic game totally meaningless.

By The Mayor of Lilliput

December 4, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Jeff, first Big 10 fans have not been bragging about difficulty of schedule, unlike the crybaby SEC fans. Since you went there, let’s point out that Florida struggled with Vandy, while Michigan kicked the Sh!t out of them. As for Central Michigan, they did win their conference, which according to SEC fans is the true measure of a champion. As for MSU and NW, every conference will have some weak teams.

Friggin Christ, my face is melting because my brain is on fire. God I’m a fckwit.

By The real David

December 4, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

You may be right Mark, but you may be wrong, too! Michigan’s claim to greatness is a close loss to OSU, and a win of Wisconsin. OSU’s claim is that they beat Michigan, and Texas early, with a rookie QB. Texas finished 4th in the Biq 12, plus OSU didn’t even play Wisconsin. Let’s also remember that Michigan almost lost to a 1-AA team near the end of the season. It will be interesting to hear the experts explain, if both OSU and Michigan lose in the bowls.

By Pirly

December 4, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

Why not just everyone boycot going to bowl games? I’d love to see empty stadiums. Maybe that will convince “University Money Hungry Presidents” to put a playoff in place.

By TallaDawg

December 4, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

The Big Ten gets by year in and year out with two good teams, at most. Before anyone talks too much, why not wait and see how all of the conferences do in the bowl season. How many times has OSU beaten an SEC team in a bowl game?

By JTL

December 4, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Michigan is more desrving than FLA?!! How does your opinion change when Mich goes down to USC in the Rose?

Also, as a UGA fan, i HATE the gaturds, but … this time, and this time only, i will actually root for them. SEC pride. Anyone claiming true UGA fans cant pull for FLA needs to get a clue.

When it comes to national prominence, “The” Conference gets my support, regardless of the team representing it. So i say, go gators. put the “Big” 10 (or is it 2?) in its place.

By Braves20

December 4, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

When Michigan goes through a season of playing Georgia, Auburn, LSU and Arkansas instead of Northwestern, Iowa and Michigan State and has just one loss THEN they might be considered the second best team in the nation. The Big 10 just doesn’t measure up to the SEC - at least not in this decade.

By TallaDawg

December 4, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

The SEC has 5 out of the top 17 teams. That is more than any other conference and 2 more than the “big” ten. (Or is it the big 11?) Is that a down year? I guess for the SEC it is, but for anyone else it is pretty good.

By SoCalDawg

December 4, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

just for fun: if OSU kills UF and USC kills UM, who would we say in retrospect SHOULD have played OSU?

By another dawg

December 4, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this

As bad as I dislike the Gators, no way would I like to see a rematch of O.S. and Michigan. Fla deserves this game, just don’t ask me to pull for them. But if Fla wins, go SEC. If Fla loses, we won’t have to listen to them legitimately claim they should have gotten a shot.

By TP

December 4, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this

Suppose Michigan had been picked and subsequently defeated OSU. Both teams had a loss to the other. Who would be #1? What a mess that would have been. How ‘bout the best 2 out of 3.

By brewerfaninATL

December 4, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this

Braves 20,

Yeah, Iowa is so bad that they kicked the crap out of Florida 3 years ago, beat LSU 2 years ago, and barely lost to Florida last year, Michigan State’s last bowl win was over, you guessed it, Florida! This might not have been a discussion in the 70’s or 80’s but in the past decade, the Big Ten/SEC match-ups are pretty darn even…look it up, it’s a FACT!

By scribe

December 4, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

part of me wants ohio state to win like 50-0, part of me wants florida to win so there will be a split national championship-after michigan defeats usc, and part of me wants a natural disaster to occur in arizona because I can’t stand either team

By RedDawg

December 4, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

Gators are so fu cking lucky, they should have lost to LSU, Georgia and Southcarolina, I cant believe they pick them to go to the NC game Bull $hit, they are not deserving, I hope Ohio State put 100 points on them, although I hate Ohio State. And for the dawg nation dont give me this crap SEC SEC, I would root for any SEC team except the lizards, Florida offense sucks, their Defense is the key I wonder what the cryer would do without charlie strong, Damn you lizards

By patp

December 4, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Big Ten Realist:

Exposed for who you are - BIG 10 IDEALIST!

Read my whole statement next time.

Michigan is #2 in Big 10. B(c)S game is deserved - and they got it. Title NO way. Earn the Big 10 next time.

As I have also stated - under playoff - you could be proven right. However - Without one - then it’s all a guessing game - and NO ONE wants to see a re-match of a conference game.

By Scooter

December 4, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Gators are hypocrites. This is news???

By secsucksthebigone

December 4, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this

This ‘SEC is the best’ crap will be silenced come bowl games when the BIG10 wallops the Gators and the Razorbacks. Florida got the game but the only thing they ‘deserve’ is a good a*-whooping by the Buckeyes. Oh, and for good measure the Wolverines will stick the Trojans where they belong so we can start comparing the Pac-10 with the SEC and put them both at the bottom where they belong.

By Geokie

December 4, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

The Pac10 referees made sure Oklahoma missed out on a NC bid this year. They are 11-2, but should be 12-1. No way Auburn, LSU or USC should be ranked higher. I know you can’t take away a loss, but Oklahoma’s loss to Oregon should have an asterisk beside it.

Bob, when Oklahoma went to the NC game over Auburn, it was because of Auburn’s weak schedule…The Citadel?

By realdawgs

December 4, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

C’mon Dawgs! I would root for any SEC team in the national title but the Gators. I pulled for Tennessee in 97 and wished Auburn could get in it in 04, but this is different. There is nothing classy about that school, thier program, or their fans. I will not, nor ever will root for that sorry excuse of a school. I wish the SEC would boot them out! We don’t need their flashy, yankee mentatlity. The SEC of class, of Bear Bryant, Shug Jordan, Vince Dooley, and Major Neyland among many others is the real SEC. I may dislike all the rest on game day but they are admired SEC combatants. I can’t say the same for that sorry school. Never had class; should have been put on the death penalty in 1988 and have never contributed anything of positive notice in our conference. Go Buckeyes!

By mosqq

December 4, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

How much more can a gluttonous public and an avaricious college infrastructure exploit these kids? Yeah, let’s have these students play three more games during there student days so we can know a true national champion and make millions more. Why not? We don’t have to pay them anything, and who really cares about their education. Eighty per cent don’t graduate anyhow. Sick, sick, sick.

By secsucksthebigone

December 4, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

Then what’s your point mosqq? Might as well make them play 6 more games so the colleges can get their money’s worth. After all, it’s the football money from these bowl games that keep the colleges going anyway.

By larry Austin

December 4, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

When Fla beats Ohio State, I want to see your column admit that you jumped on the band wagon and became an Ohio fan just because they were undefeated. The Big Ten has a losing record with the SEC. Your mighty OSU has a losing record in the outback bowl 1-3. Florida will show up for the game. OSU’s secondary is suspect. If OSU wins it will because of Troy Smith’s running. But you sports writers are in love with the Big Ten and cannot see any other conference. Hang on to your jock strap-this is going to be a good un.

By Jeff

December 4, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Isn’t this the same thing that happens almost every year with the BCS? There ends up being at least one deserving team left out because the issue is determined by voters and computers, and isn’t determined on the field. And every year the pros and cons of a playoff system are debated, but ultimately the BCS survives. Michigan is a fine team, and they might beat Florida if they played them. However, Florida won its conference championship, and that should have some meaning in leau of a playoff. For the record, Mark Bradley and Jeff Shultz are almost as stupid as John Kincade.

By Jim

December 4, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

If Michigan played OSU again and won, they would be national champions with a 1-1 record against OSU, but for OSU to be national champtions, they have to be 2-0 vs Michigan. That is not fair, nor is it logical. It was a late season game, it was clearly for a berth in the national championship game, and Michigan lost. That’s the definition of a playoff game, isn’t it? They had their shot, they lost. To give them a mulligan is not fair to the other teams, and it certainly is not fair to OSU.

By DawgByte

December 4, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

I agree with Bradley on this one. Florida is NOT the #2 team in America. Yes they had a very daunting schedule, but if you look at how they’ve played over the last month, they just don’t measure up as a team worthy to play in the National Championship game.

As has been pointed out - if Fish doesn’t make that incredibly BONEHEADED play, Arkansas wins the SEC Championship.

By JT

December 4, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

This is all pretty simple, even if you are a Big Ten fan. Florida played a tougher schedule, has more wins, and more quality wins than Michigan. Florida’s loss only occurred b/c they got totally jobbed by the officals at Auburn. And, lets not forget, Florida won their conference. Michigan’s supposed “big wins” came against an overrated Notre Dame team and a Wisconsin team that played no one this year. When they did play OSU, they played as well as they could, OSU played a mediocre game at best, and still be Michigan. Michigan has no argument here.

By james

December 4, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

Two teams, 12 & 0. Bosie State gets screwed just because they are Boise State. If you cannot have a playoff system, then go back to the old way. Having, and endlessly, tweaking the BCS every year in order to gain a more equitable system ain’t getting it done.

By Big Dawg

December 4, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

TO: NationalChamps

Bradley get over the pups being dominated by the Gators. Virtually all of the national commentators agree that UF deserves it. You are in SEC country and makes these ridiculous comments. Glad you will have to see the PH Factor(Percy Harvin) in Jax next year.

NationalChamps while I will be pulling for the Gators against Ohio State because they are a SEC team. Florida didn’t dominate anyone this year, it was clear that they are the best team in the SEC this year because they won when they had too. As a matter of fact Florida got a lot of breaks from the Refs as all teams that win championships do. So please calm down and stop the smack talk about other SEC teams until next fall. Concentrate on Ohio State and the Big Ten.

By Fan

December 4, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

In my mind, which doesn’t matter much, there is only one reason Fla. is #2. THEY WON THEIR CONFERENCE!!!!! No one should be able to play for the Natl. Championship if they don’t win their conference!!!!!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!

By McDonoughDawg

December 4, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

If anyone wants to see how the Big 10 and the SEC have matched up lately, all you have to do is look at the 2 Bowls played in Florida. For 10+ years, the SEC/Big 11 have gone head to head. The SEC is well ahead.

Will I pull for UF to beat OSU? No way, but they deserve the shot, without a doubt in my mind.

By CAVDawg

December 4, 2006 02:15 PM | Link to this

For all those who are complaining about Michigan being the “clear” #2 team in the country. Where is this clear evidence you’re basing this on? Florida played a tougher schedule overall than anyone in the country, and while some wins were ugly, they found a way to win. It has always struck me as funny how if USC or OSU or Michigan wins close games with some mistakes, they are a team with guts, who found a way to win… b/c that’s what champions do… but when an SEC team does it, its a flawed team that is undeserving of a national title bid? total BS!

For all you Big 10 fanatics out there complaining and crying, tell your conference to sack up and start playing a championship game like the rest of the “Major” conferences out there, then we’ll have this conversation again.

And a whole other soap box that needs stomping, ND in the sugar bowl? wtf? are you kidding me. They get their a* handed to them twice (and should have taken a third loss to GT), don’t play a championship game (or even belong to a conference) and they get a bcs bid? The media should be excluded from voting period, and how the #11 ranked bcs team (correct me if I’m wrong on that one) gets into one of the slots when they haven’t beaten any serious opponents is just crap. I think Arakansas, Wisconsin, Auburn, TN… any of the the above, would be more deserving than ND to get a BCS bid.

The system is FUBAR’d, but nonetheless, michigan has nothing legitimate to b*** about.

And for the record, I’m a dawg fan, who loathes UF, and I’ll definitely be cheering for the Gators and the SEC to bring home a national title on January 8th!

By Big Dawg

December 4, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

TO: smitty

“the objectively minded Kirk is a Michigan grad)…….”

Smitty where have you been Kirk Hebstreet played QB at Ohio State. I agree with you that ESPN, ABC, CBS etc. have been falling all over themselves promoting USC and Michigan, but they got it handed to them when USC lost, FL beat Arkansas and the coaches voted for FL. Now the Gators have to go out and prove themselves again. They will be heavy underdogs except to those true football wizards who know that these two teams are pretty evenly matched i.e. very good defenses, great head coaches, very good to great team speed with a lot of offensive weapons, game breakers etc. It will be a close game with the team making the fewest mistakes and wanting it more coming out on top. As for Michigan they are going to have their hands full with USC. Historically teams from the Big Ten have not done well in the Rose Bowl, especially Michigan.

By Truth Setter

December 4, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Didn’t Florida at least win their division. Ohio won their division. Michigan lost their division. This at least makes some sense. The BCS is horrible and until we get a playoff system nothing will ever be settled about who is #1.

By warren

December 4, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

OK…let’s cut everyones season short by 4 games (hmmmm how much season ticket money would be lost?)and then take the top 16 teams and have a playoff.

By Big Ten realist

December 4, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this

Braves 20; nice job of comparing, putting your top teams in your conference and listing our weak ones in the big ten. You’ve got no future in sales, though. If you want to compare the top, Georgia, Auburn, LSU against Northwestern, Michigan State and Ioway, then we can in turn compare Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin (who THUMPED your precious Auburn last year) with Vanderbilt, Kentucky and Alabama. For as many as you lunatic fringe SEC dolts who constantly say insane things like “Michigan would have three losses every year if they played in the might SEC”, I doubt you would go undefeated as you seem to think you would if you played Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State.

By Bulldawg Fan

December 4, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

I’m going to be objective. Being a big fan of the SEC, I feel any team that runs through the gauntlet that is the SEC and come out with 1 loss should have that right to play for the national championship be it Georgia, Florida, Auburn, whoever. But, the BCS jumped the gun when they placed Florida against OSU. What would have happened if Arkansas would have won? There was no scenario being talked about in that regard, because everybody knew it would be a OSU - Michigan rematch. So it seemed like they were “hoping” Florida would win to keep the rematch from happening. Do I think Florida is better than Michigan? No I do not, but it isn’t fair to Michigan to be left out because their last game was Nov. 18. However, the national championship game will be a good one and I will be rooting for the SEC (Florida) to bring the championship to the SEC where it belongs.

By tim

December 4, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

and GA Tech is gonna beat UGA, too, right Mark Bradley?

By Big Dawg

December 4, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

TO: WallStBro

“let’s point out that Florida struggled with Vandy, while Michigan kicked the Sh!t out of them.”

WallStBro did you even watch the Vandy vs. Michigan or Vandy vs. Florida games? If you had you wouldn’t be saying that Michigan kicked the Sh!t out of them. Both teams struggled against Vandy and as a matter of fact Michigan played them in the “Big House” and got 6 bad calls by the Refs that helped in their win. So stop the whinning please, not many of us fans are happy with the BCS and would have rather seen a playoff. I personnally think that Florida, Michigan, Louisville and Boise State should play each other with the two winners playing for the right to play Ohio State for the NC. With this said I know it won’t happen So Go Gators and Go SEC

By NoleBuzz

December 4, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this

Whoever is on the outside is unhappy with the system, and right now UF is happy as a clam. Are other teams AS deserving? Sure. Will it matter in the end? No. OSU 38, UF 12. The only undefeated team will stay that way and be declared the rightful National Champs.

By David Bradshaw

December 4, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

Hey SOCALDAWG..Are you insinuating that USC with your scenario should have played OSU..Give me a break both of USC losses are from UNRANKED TEAMS..!!!!!!!! Please remove the DAWG from your sreen name..and please stay in SOCAL..!! PAC 10 what a conference….!!!!! NOT….!!!

By gator/buckeye

December 4, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

Nobody knows if OSU is actually the best team in the country. They beat Texas who now has 3 loses. And they beat Michigan. Nobody else on their schedule matters, the BIG 10 was pitiful. If they played again we still wouldn’t know if either was the best team in the country.

The only reason Florida was given a rematch with FSU in 1996 was because the Big 10/PAC 10 refused to participate. FSU should have played #2 Arizona State.

If there were an 8-team playoff you can be sure the six major conference champions would be included. Add Notre Dame (who will get some special exception) and Boise State and Michigan might still be out in the cold.

How about a 4-team playoff this year? OSU vs MI and Florida vs LSU. Been there, done that.

By Bulldawg Fan

December 4, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

To brewerfaninATL,

You must have selective memory lost. I distinctively remember Wisconsin playing Georgia in the Outback Bowl in 1998. Who won the game? Georgia slaughtered Wisconsin 33-6. So if the only argument you have about the SEC is about UGA having a “not up to par” season, then Wisconsin may as well not show up against the Hogs.

By Cottoneye Joe

December 4, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

brewerfaninATL, PLZ come back to the blogs January,9th. I believe you’ve called a 2 outta 3 or a sweep. Anyway, we’ll sing your praises or you’ll eat badger kahka. Now go get a Pig’s Eye and a cheese samwhich from Big 10 land

By Dawgie

December 4, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

All you BCS bashers are idiots. It’s the best system college football has ever had, and with the exception of the split national championship year, has gotten it right EVERY time. Yeah, Auburn got screwed in ‘94 but all it did was save them from an a$$ kicking by Southern Cal. I’d love to hear all you guys pi$$ing and moaning over brackets, seedings, etc., when there’s a playoff. And the first time some 3 loss team that lost to Vandy gets hot and wins it all you’ll be whining about how unfair it is. As I said before, a playoff would have rendered Saturday’s epic Southen Cal-UCLA game meaningless. College football’s damn near perfect as it is, don’t go screwing with it!

By limpdikdawg

December 4, 2006 05:03 PM | Link to this

Florida will embarras the SEC——they will lose by 2 TD’s and show what a sham that Urban Renewal has put on the polls!!!!!

By Keith Joseph

December 4, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

I’m born in Michigan and live in Florida. Over 60-75% of the coach voters in the BCS polls are from ACC, SEC or Conf USA southern conferences: Houston Nutt, Tommy Bowden, Bobby Bowden, Les Miles, etc. So naturally, they all voted for Florida over Michigan. The Gator arguement is that they beat Tennessee 21-20, LSU 23-13 and Arkansas 38-28 and play in the toughest SEC Conference. However, when further examining the Gator schedule they beat two overrated SEC teams Georgia and Alabama who both lost 4 games each. Struggled to beat a Vanderbilt team 25-19 by only 6 points, beat a 5 loss South Carolina team 17-16 on two blocked extra points and a blocked field goal. Beat a 6 loss Florida State team 21-14 in which they were tied going into the 4th quarter! If USC beats UCLA does Florida jump over Michigan to the 3rd spot? No way! Michigan stays 3rd and Florida 4th. Also, Michigan beat Vanderbilt 27-7 easily by 20. An SEC Team Vanderbilt’s coaching staff said Michigan was the better team. Michigan lost to Ohio State by 3 in Columbus 42-39, pummeled Notre Dame by 26 47-21 and beat Wisconsin by 14 27-13. Florida lost to a 2 loss Auburn team by 10 27-17! Michigan had two bad games: Ball State 34-26 an 8 point win and the Ohio State game. The coaches were basing their decision on their southern biasis and that they didn’t want a Michigan-Ohio State rematch. Instead of taking Michigan, the 2nd best team in the nation they took Florida because they played one more supposedly BCS ranked team Arkansas, Michigan was off for two weeks and the anti-rematch sentiment. Also, Jim Tressel-Ohio State Coach Mr Used Car Lot Man refused to cast his vote. Tressel did this because he didn’t want to play Michigan the 2nd time on a neutral site. So a non-vote was essentially a vote for Florida. Tressel knows Ohio State will beat Florida by 10 points or more. The other arguement is Michigan didn’t win their conference. Yet in baseball, and the NFL we have the Florida Marlins and the Boston Red Sox who were World Series and Super Bowl Champions and didn’t win the divisions and were wild cards. Also, the Gators forget that they won there only national championship in a rematch with FSU 52-20 in 1996 so now when it favors them, their against a OSU-Michigan rematch! Urban Meyer showed his arrogance by lobbying the BCS pollsters yet Lloyd Carr showed class by not lobbying. OSU will beat Florida 38-28 and show everyone that the Gators are a fraud and Michigan should have been there. The gators haven’t faced a quarterback, offensive line, running backs and receivers like Troy Smith, Antonio Pittman,Ted Ginn and Anthony Gonzalez. Chris Leak will not be able to turn the ball over twice against Ohio State like he did against Arkansas. Also,in the future when these situations come up have a playoff allowance stipulation between the two one loss teams.

By David Bradshaw

December 4, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Hey Dawgie, I think you meant 04’ The BCS did not exist in 94’. It was introduced in 1997’. And I dont think Auburn would have been pounded by SC… Why are you disguising yourself behind DAWGIE…You PAC 10 freak..!!!

By B. Thenet

December 4, 2006 05:38 PM | Link to this

I look forward to his gloating article when the Gators get stomped.

Nice resume(although how a team that lost by 36 at home is a Top 15 team is beyond me), won the conference title, but not the 2nd best team in the country.

By Ken C

December 4, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

We all need to be playing on the same level. If the Big 10 had played a championship game, ie. OSU and Michigan, they would have had their rematch and this would be a moot point. If the Big 10 and the Pac 10, will not play for a conference championship like the other conferences, then all the other conferences should discontinue their championship games.

All the other conferences or at a disadvantage by playing the extra game. In the SEC game, UF could have easily lost to Arkansas, who was not even the best team from the Western division, which also has LSU and Auburn.

The reason the Big 10 and the PAC 10 are never going to play a championship game, is because they are just about guaranteed of having two teams from each conference in the BCS each year.

By UnkTob

December 4, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

Quote Italic: **By JDDAWG

December 3, 2006 11:10 PM | Link to this

Boise State… did not even play one top 25 team the entire year!!! There scedule is rediculous!!!!**

Sure, overall Boise State had an easy schedule, but they played 3 or 4 teams that were ranked when they played, but those teams lost, and fell below the rankings. (that’s what happens when you lose! lol)

And, as JD mentioned, Boise Killed Oregon State, who beat USC.. Killed! you could say… They pounded those beavers… hehe

By TommyBoy

December 4, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this

Mark, couldn’t agree more…it’s absolutely a JOKE that Divison 1-A football does not have a true playoff. Every single reason against it is pure bunk. Division 1-A needs to do what 1-AA does…if Division 1 teams need to play fewer regular season games to be able to have a 16-team playoff system, so be it. If teams from conferences that have championship games must play one game less than everybody else to finish on time, too bad, gotta do it.

Is there ever any complaining about a 5th seed winning the NCAA basketball championship? Did anybody complain because George Mason advanced to the Final Four this past April? NO. No matter who wins the basketball tourney, that team is regarded as the TRUE champion of college basketball. The same would hold true if a real playoff system were implemented for 1-A football.

It is truly unbelievable how many idiots out there want to stick with the current system, or add a “plus-one” game after the bowls. What a joke.

By Doodad

December 4, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

The people who say that a team that didn’t win its conference should not be allowed to play in the so-called championship game must not like the fact that the NCAA basketball champs are oftentimes teams that did not win their conference during the season. Who cares if Michigan didn’t win the Big Ten?

NCAA football for the big schools is a travesty. Having lots of 6-6 and 7-5 teams participating in bowl games, rarely, if ever, having a champion that is widely regarded as deserving it, etc.

By nebraskafan

December 4, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

jim ;PLEEZ HOLD THE SCORE DOWN so our rout in the championship game will hold up as all time best….against same lame gators!!!!

By brewerfaninATL

December 4, 2006 07:20 PM | Link to this

Bulldawg fan,

Yeah, congrats for your beatdown 9 years ago against us, but I wasn’t talking about just Wisconsin in the past decade, I was talking about the Big Ten in general, the records are pretty darn even. As I recall, you beat us a couple years ago too, but it was much, much closer at 24-21. It doesn’t matter because we’re about to win our second straight game against the SEC.

Cottoneye Joe,

Don’t worry, I’ll be here on January 9th, will you? Hey, I’m giving Tennessee a good shot at knocking off Penn State, but then again, the mighty Vols better not take Joe Pa’s team too lightly…that man has been known to pull some surprises come bowl time, right UGA in ‘82, or Miami in ‘86?

By Turd Ferguson

December 4, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

Look, I don’t really give a damn what A* Troll Bradley thinks about Michigan or Florida. How did he come to the conclusion that Michigan has a better chance of beating Ohio State than Florida? They’ve already lost to OSU once this season. If the pussies in the Big 10 would have a conference championship, then Michigan would have had a second shot to beat OSU. And if they had then what? Michigan and OSU would both be one loss teams b*** about who deserves to go to the National Championship more. All of this Florida deserves this, Michigan got screwed that is just a big circle jerk until we a playoff system in place. Its good enough for the NFL, why not college football?

By Jack

December 4, 2006 07:35 PM | Link to this

It’s just amazing how much a dumbass you are Bradley!

By Nickatnite

December 4, 2006 07:41 PM | Link to this

Mark;

As usual, you are devoid of common sense. Michigan was number 2 in a 4 team strong conference. They had their chance, get over it!! They couldn’t win their own conference.

God, they barely sqeaked by Ball State.

Michigan and USC are two great runnerups who will have an interesting Rose Bowl game.

Mark, you must be related to loveable Lloyd Carr.

By paul

December 4, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

until there is a playoff, in the current system, only conference champions should be allowed to play for the national title.

no one complains in basketball about the 5th seed winning the whole darn thing or about george mason playing in the final 4, because those teams in NCAA basketball have the chance to earn it on the court, and they have a chance to earn it fairly.

however, in ncaa football it so subjective and arbitrary the way people are selected to go to the national championship game.

It really should become a general rule that you have to win the conference championship in order to play in that game.

I do not understand anyone who argues otherwise.

fifth seeds in the ncaa and wildcards in baseball and football and eight seeds in the NBA all have a chance to win it out on the floor and prove themselves that way.

BUT imagine that in the NBA, MLB, Hockey, NCAA basketball, the NFL, if a team went out and won their division title or their conference championship but were not allowed to play for the national championship because some voters arbitrarily thought that some second place team was better and that therefore that that second place team should replace the conference winner or division title winner in the national championship game, the nfl playoffs, the mlb playoffs, the world series, the super bowl, the stanley cup playoffs, and so on.

So when you ask why do people think you have to win your conference to play in the national championship game, think about how unfair it would have been in all of those years the braves won their division title, if someone said wait hold on there is some second place team out there in another division who is more deserving than the braves, so sorry braves i know you earned your spot in the playoffs by winning your division, but not this year, the media is just so infatuated with the possibilities of some random second place team in the American League instead of the braves.

That would be like in baseball this year, if someone told the cardinals, cardinals yeah you won your division but you only won 83 games this year and you did not have enough style points in those wins, so sorry you ain’t going to the playoffs this year and you can not compete for the world series even though you earned your chanced albeit in a watered down division.

The white sox are truly a better team playing in a tougher division, so even though they came in third place this year, the white sox are going to take the playoff spot of the cardinals this year.

OR, it would have been like after the cardinals won the national league championship and the tigers won the american league championship, if some writers and voters and coaches got together and said wait hold on a second, you may have won your league championship there cardinals, but you guys are boring and you are not very good and bottomline you do not deserve to play for the World Series title, so you know what, we select the Yankees to play the Tigers this year in the World Series instead of the Cardinals even though the Yankees blew their chance to put the Tigers away and the Tigers have already proven on the field of play that they are better than the Yankees this year.

the vice versa is true. what if the tigers were told sorry charlie. yeah, you may have won the american league championship but the cardinals and mets just got finished playing a compelling 7th game that went down to the very last pitch with the bases loaded in the ninth inning. Sorry, Tigers, the Mets are just a much more compelling and interesting matchup against the cardinals for the World Series this year so the Mets are going to meet the Cardinals yet again in the World Series. SOrry, Tigers, winning the American League just does not mean that much anymore.

WOULD ANY OF THOSE SCENARIOS BE FAIR?

SO, there you go.

Until there is a playoff system developed, no second place team from any conference should ever be allowed to play for the national title.

Even when a playoff system is developed, second place teams should not be permitted to play in the playoffs.

Only the conference champions from each of the six major conferences should be allowed to play in the playoffs for the national title, with the teams from the conferences who played in the national title game the year before getting the first round bye the next year.

Therefore, until an expanded playoff system is developed which allows for wild cards and at large bids to compete in the playoffs for the national title, no second place team should ever be allowed to play for the national title.

Allowing second place teams to play in the national title game destroys the integrity of the sport and the purpose of the regular season and battling for the conference championship, where things should be decided on the field.

Things have already been decided pretty measurably on the field between ohio state and michigan.

Michigan was never a real threat to win that game, down by 10 points the whole game until scoring a meaningless TD towards the end of the game.

By Ugotta B. Kidding

December 4, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

My God, you Northern boys just kill me…talkin’ ‘bout how weak Florida’s schedule was and how tough the mighty Wolverines schedule was. (Duh-huh) Well ole Ugotta B’s gonna analyze that “tuff” schedule: There was Vanderbilt (who Florida also played) at 4-8….That tough bunch from Minnesota at 6-6….The mean green machine Michigan State comes in at 4-8…..That bruising Iowa team was 6-6…..Oooooh Northwestern at 4-8….How ‘bout Ball State with a whopping 5-7 record….Then there was the mighty Indiana Hoosiers (???What the hell’s a hoosier???) at 5-7…..Don’t forget mighty Central Michigan at 9-4 (What are they a Division 1 or what???) But oh yeah! They’re in the playoffs. LOL….and then there was mighty Wisconsin (the most overrated (next to Notre Dame) team in the country. #6 my a$$!!! They’re opponents combined record was 63-80 and I’m not even goin’ to embarass y’all by posting their “tuff” schedule. So that leaves maybe 3 decent opponents and they lost to one of them. But it’s that 8 point win over perennial powerhouse Ball State that probably stands out most of all. So tell me again…Why does Michigan deserve to get ANOTHER chance to beat Ohio State? Us’n suthren boyz ar lissnin’!!!

By Keith Joseph

December 4, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

Southern Boy, Florida played Western Carolina, UCF and Southern Mississippi. Western Carolina isn’t even a NCAA Division 1 school. By the way, I got too much class to use profanity in my emails unlike you. By the way Michigan has won at least 8 or more national championships than Florida who has only two. Michigan beat Florida 38-31 in the Outback Bowl in there most recent meeting. Get your facts straight

By Justin Credible

December 4, 2006 09:27 PM | Link to this

Where did Kirk Herbstreit go to school? I’m not sure.

BTW, Central Michigan beat Ball State by 11 points. Central Michigan deserves the right to play U-M for the right to play Florida. Looking forward to it!

By Ugotta B. Kidding

December 4, 2006 09:39 PM | Link to this

Hey, don’t get your panties in a wad there Keith Joseph. I can take a joke…my wife’s from Grand Rapids (MICHIGAN)!!! That’s the lovely Mrs. Imajus Kidding. What profanity of you speaking of? I didn’t know “Hoosier” was profane. Sorry! BTW Michigan won’t get a chance to beat Florida this year…Cause Florida’s gonna be playin’ in the CHAMPIONSHIP GAME against Ohio State!!!

By RedDawg

December 4, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

Again! The lizards are f******* king lucky, they dont deserve to go to the NC game, Ohio will kill them, mark my words, Ohio boosters like herbstreet are already praising Florida saying Florida defense is very fast, they are very athletic, SEC tough conference blah blah blah and all that bull s** talk, anyway, I rather root for the devil over Florida, and true dawgs should never root for Florida,

By Ugotta B. Kidding

December 4, 2006 10:16 PM | Link to this

Hey I’m jes yankin’ yore chain there Keith Joseph. Just a little suthren humer…

Reminds me of the South Georgia woman seated next to a New York woman on a plane about to take off from the airport. The Southern Bell turned to the New York woman and said in her best southern drawl, “Hi, I’m from South Georgia, where are you from?”
The New York woman said, very coldly, “What’s wrong with you Southern people? You are so uneducated. Don’t you know you don’t end a sentence with a preposition?” The nice South Georgia woman sat there quietly for a few moments, then turned to the New York lady again and said, “Hi, where are you from………….b***!”

By brewerfaninATL

December 4, 2006 10:35 PM | Link to this

UGotta B. Kidding,

Nice name, loser! Typical southern lame-@$$ redneck who doesn’t think the Civil War is over! Yeah, we’ll see the MIGHTY Gator defense against the multi-dimensional Buckeyes get thrashed all over the field. Mighty defense my @$$! It took a miracle for those bozos to beat the Gamecocks…AT HOME, no less! Oh yeah, how about that 6 point clunker win over mighty Vandy, but that’s right, Vandy did beat vastly overrated UGA AT THEIR PLACE, I almost forgot! Oh yeah, how about that complete meltdown in that Auburn game, where they blew a big lead…you know the same Auburn team that got crushed at home by UGA and Arkansas. But don’t worry, I DO give the SEC some credit because I believe LSU is, by far and away, the most talented team in your conference, regardless of their 2 losses. They would be the ONLY team from the SEC that could give the Buckeyes a threat of a game, but alas, we get to see them destroy Notre Dame instead! Wisconsin overrated? OK, that’s your opinion, but what kind of excuse are you going to give after we give the Hogs a beatdown the same way we did Auburn last year? Will we be overrated then? Or better yet, how about the complete dismantling OSU will give to Florida in the title game? Tell you what, while you’re thinking about that, go watch your Dukes Of Hazard reruns, you loser!

By heeldawg

December 4, 2006 10:48 PM | Link to this

As much as it pains me to say this, the Gators deserve their shot at the NCAA title. Does Ohio State have more talent? Sure. So did Miami in 2002, when an unheralded team from Ohio won the NCAA title by beating the “unbeatable” Hurricanes. When two good, winning teams get together, anything can happen. The Gators did not dominate this season, but they did win. And they won against the toghest schedule in the country in the most difficult league in the country. Michigan had their shot. They lost. It’s time for Florida to have theirs.

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