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Meyer out of line with his whine
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Memo to Urban Meyer: Shut up, sit back and enjoy Florida’s wonderful ride to wherever the BCS gods steer the Gators in football this January.
PS: Stop becoming another Tommy Tuberville.
What’s with these SEC coaches trying to whine their way into a national championship game? Tuberville still won’t let 2004 go. Back then, his Auburn Tigers went undefeated along the way to taking the conference title game, but they weren’t picked for the Big Game. Southern Cal and Oklahoma also went undefeated, and they both had tougher schedules than Auburn, and they both were ranked higher than Auburn.
End of story.
As for this year’s Florida team, it’s lucky to sit fourth in the current BCS standings after struggling against Vanderbilt and South Carolina. In general, the Gators have been so underwhelming that they could be upset on Saturday in Tallahassee by sputtering but talented Florida State, Florida’s archrivals.
Even so, Meyer is blasting anyone who remembers last Saturday’s classic in Columbus, Ohio, and wants a rematch between No. 1 Ohio State and No. 2 Michigan (Saturday’s loser) in the BCS championship game. Said Meyers of the BCS folks, “If they do that, there should be a playoff system next year. Those (Ohio State and Michigan) were great teams, but if that happens, then it’s over. Then the presidents need to put together a playoff system … and now.”
No, Urban. If an Ohio State-Michigan rematch happens, Florida needs to get better. No. 3 Southern Cal also joins the Gators with one loss. Still, you don’t hear Southern Cal coach Pete Pete Carroll moaning and groaning about what should happen in the BCS title game. Said Carroll to the media after the Trojans’ victory on Saturday over Cal, “I’ll be the last guy to campaign for us.”
Notre Dame has one loss, too, and the Fighting Irish play Saturday night at Southern Cal. Should Notre Dame win, here’s what coach Charlie Weis said in his Tuesday news conference about whether his team should face undefeated Ohio State: “When I’m so prejudiced and biased toward Notre Dame, why really go there? The bottom line is, if you wouldn’t have lost, you’d be like Ohio State, guaranteed a spot.”
Are you listening, Urban, to the wisdom and class of Carroll and Weis?
Tuberville doesn’t hear them, or he just doesn’t care. Even with Auburn out of the mix this season, Tuberville can’t stay out of this BCS thing. Of a possible Ohio State-Michigan rematch, Tuberville said Sunday, “I think Arkansas or Florida should get that opportunity. It shouldn’t even be close.”
Yeah, well.
Get over it.
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By Eli
November 22, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this
Yes, Terrance, everything is just hunky-dory with the BCS. Meyer has no idea what he’s talking about, and anyone who thinks there shouldn’t be a rematch of two teams who just played each other is an idiot. I don’t care for Florida, and I don’t want to see them win a national title, much less an SEC one, but if they run the table and beat FSU and Arkansas, why should they be denied a shot? For that matter, why should USC be denied a spot? Or Arkansas, if they win? Michigan has no better claim to #2 than any of those teams, and that’s exactly what Meyer was saying. It’s not fair to Ohio State to expect them to beat a team twice in a season, just like it wasn’t fair to FSU in 1996 when they had to play Florida a second time. I saw the comments Meyer made, and he wasn’t politicking for UF — he was only saying that, in the interests of fairness, it’s time for a playoff, which it is. You, on the other hand, have some sort of other agenda, because this is at least the second anti-playoff column you’ve written in the past couple of months. Just how much is the NCAA paying you to do their bidding?
By kelly
November 22, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this
The idea that Florida belongs in the title game is inane. They have a really good D, but the offense is mediocre-good, but certainly not great. The kicking game is a flop. They struggled against Georgia and Vandy, got a game handed to them by a bumbling LSU team etc etc ad nauseum.
The only upside to FL making the big game would be to see them get smashed by a highly superior OSU team. That’d be as enjoyable as watching Spurrier’s ashes dropped into the Nat’l Championship urn by Nebraska.
By BirdDawg
November 22, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
Moore, while I hate Tuberville and loathe the Urban Myth…
They are right.
Yeah, their delivery of the message is wrong, but they’re right.
And Oklahoma didn’t have a harder schedule in 2004, that’s bullcrap. Playing 8 games a year in the SEC is harder than playing a Big 2 schedule, no matter the nonconference schedule. And no, I didn’t forget to put a 1 before the 2.
Moore, I have for a long, long time thought that you are the dumbest SOB at this paper, and your continued support for the BCS just proves my point.
By kelly
November 22, 2006 12:12 PM | Link to this
And no…the BCS still sucks.
By mike
November 22, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
If it were Georgia in Florida’s position I would think that CMR would express his opinions just like Meyer and Tuberville. But it doesn’t seem likely that Georgia will ever be mentioned as a top 3 or 4 team at the end of a season so we will never find out. JUST SHUT UP LOSERS.
By Travis
November 22, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this
Southern Cal and Oklahoma also went undefeated, and they both had tougher schedules than Auburn, and they both were ranked higher than Auburn.
End of story.
Michigan and Florida both lose 1 game and Florida has a tougher schedule. By your rationale that’s “End of Story”?
Pete Carroll doesn’t whine as long as he’s in good BCS Shape. Remember this nugget from 2003 when he was on the outside looking in “The Rose Bowl is the national championship game,’ head coach Pete Carroll told reporters. ‘There’s no question about it in our minds. It’s not going to be talked about on TV by the other bowl game that way. That’s the marketing aspect of it. Logic tells you we’re the No. 1 team in the country, and if we play a great game and win, we’re going to take a trophy home with us.”
Terence you are better than that.
By Bryan G.
November 22, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this
Look at Florida’s schedule!! Their only loss was on the road on a night game in Auburn….and they lost b/c of a questionable call. If they beat Arkansas, UF deserves to play Ohio State over USC or Michigan.
By TDP
November 22, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
Mike - UGA #3 in 2002. Check your facts, idiot.
By Pete
November 22, 2006 12:45 PM | Link to this
Look, Urban Crier needs to shut his mouth. How dumb is he going to look when UF walks into Doak this weekend and gets upset by a mediocre FSU team? And to that argument that he tries to make about an OSU-Michigan rematch: the Gator Nation should be ashamed. The only reason Florida has its one and only national championship is because the Gators got a mulligan and got to play FSU again. Bottom line, Urban, your team is not that good and wouldn’t last five minutes with Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Notre Dame or even Boise State for that matter.
By DifferentKelly
November 22, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
Eli…you say “but if they run the table and beat FSU and Arkansas, why should they be denied a shot? For that matter, why should USC be denied a spot? Or Arkansas, if they win? Michigan has no better claim to #2 than any of those teams, and that’s exactly what Meyer was saying.” Um, Michigan DOES have a better claim, because their only loss was to the #1 and only undefeated team in the nation. That in and of itself gives them more credibility. And I agree with Terence in that Notre Dame and USC’s coaches have more class. They must; they are not in the SEC. Did we really expect anything better than this from UF?
By GatorRick
November 22, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
If either Florida or Arkansas ends up 12-1 after the SEC title game, there is no way a 11-1 Michigan team (having beaten only two good teams all year..Wisconsin and Notre Dame)…that lost its conference title game with Ohio State…should go the the NC game…that is what Meyer is saying. It is pure logic, Terence. Not someone crying. And Meyer has already stated that he is keeping his mouth shut from now on about the BCS, and that the Gators focus needs to be on FSU, which is capable of beating any team on any given Sunday no matter what their record is because of the talent FSU has…if not good coaching. If USC beats Notre Dame, the meida says they should go because they won their conference and they supposedly had a tougher(I personally question it)schedule than Florida and beat Arkansas. If Florida is 12-1, I think the Gators should go. Let USC come play in the Swamp, in Auburn, between the hedges, at LSU on a Saturday night, in Knoxville on a Saturday night (Cal tried that and look what happened to them) and see if they go unblimished during the regular season. I will take the Pac 10 schedule over a SEC schedule to ease any day. Plus, Florida lost to a top 20 Auburn team (10-2) and USC lost to a team not even in the top 25. If Florida is 12-1 and does not go to the NCG, they Meyer is right…start the playoffs next year!
By BeachGaBulldog
November 22, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
What do you expect from another CLASSLESS Florida Gaytwat? The players,coaches,and FANS have always had NO CLASS, and its just another typical crying/whining Gaydickhead complaining when they don’t get their way. Meyer is an idiot & he needs to just shut the hell up. The BCS is something that I have never acknowledged because it has NEVER WORKED! Laying 62 points on W.C. really screwed their chances anyway. Tuberville is another classless individual. Now all we need is a trifecta for Fulmer to run his mouth, & these adolescents can get together & cry on each others shoulders. I have always hated everything about the Gaypubes, and I always will! F* ‘em!
By Eli
November 22, 2006 01:11 PM | Link to this
DifferentKelly, it sounds like you’re letting personal preferences get in the way of making a decent objective argument. Take off the maize & blue glasses for a moment, and realize that there are several teams in the country that are just as deserving of #2 as Michigan is. Florida’s loss was a nailbiter on the road against then-#5 Auburn, and was influenced by a very questionable fumble call that went Auburn’s way. USC took a loss against an unranked Oregon State team. All three have had some good wins, and some not-so-good wins (Ball State, anyone?). My point is not that Florida is more deserving than Michigan or USC, or that any of the three are somehow superior to the others; I’m just pointing out that there are too many teams within an eyelash of each other talent-wise and coaching-wise, and to have a couple of polls and computer geeks spit out a national championship matchup is ridiculous. These teams should be lined up against each other in a playoff, not argued about in public blogs attached to mediocre columns on a bottom-feeding newspaper website.
By Eli
November 22, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this
BeachGaBulldog, people like you are the reason that everyone around the country laughs thinks Bulldog fans are nothing but a bunch of homophobic rednecks. What a moron! In your rambling, incoherent muttering, you made six personal attacks and not a single rational point. What does laying 62 on WC have to do with anything? Nobody’s surprised that you hate UF — you can’t beat them, and they’re ten times classier than anything you could ever hope to be.
By GatorRick
November 22, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this
Pete…I don’t know what drugs you are taking, but I think any of the top 5 SEC teams could give Michigan or Ohio State a battle, or win, for that matter. I watched Ohio State play Illinois (remember a guy named Zook), and they could have lost that game. Michigan almost lost to Ball State…at home! Who are you kidding? Have Michigan or Ohio State play in the Swamp, at LSU, at Knoxville, on the Plains…on a Saturday night…in the SEC…and your tune might be a little different. PS>with the type of talent (speed my friend) Meyer has and is bringing to Gainesville…his type of talent…look out SEC. Could be an new era of the Gator in the SEC. Meyer’s year is next year when Tebow and Fayson are running the spread option with Harvin and the rest…remember what West Virgina did against the Dogs…well, get ready for some more of the same!
By DifferentKelly
November 22, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this
Ahh, BeachDawg, the only reason you think Meyer, Tuberville, and Fulmer are all so classless is because they, with the exception of a few off games, consistently BEAT YOUR A*.
By GatorRick
November 22, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this
I just love it when Beach Ga Bulldog talks about other people not having any “class.” Beachdog you are the ultimate expression of “no class!”
By DifferentKelly
November 22, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
Eli…it won’t matter when UF walks into Tallahassee on their mighty high horse on Saturday and takes a major dive to the ‘Noles. (By the way, I am no Michigan or USC fan, I simply despise the whiny Gators as much as I do the rest of the SEC.)
By DifferentKelly
November 22, 2006 01:29 PM | Link to this
P.S., Eli, of course I am letting personal preferences get in the way. Who doesn’t? This is college football! :)
By JDW
November 22, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this
Fact is USC-Notre Dame winner, FL-AR winner, Big East Champ, to a lesser extent the ACC Champ, and the Big 12 Champ all deserve a shot. The only way to make this happen is through a playoff. That said I firmly believe that at least 80% of the time, and that holds true this year, the SEC Champ is one of the top two teams in the country. Just take a look at the history of BCS games. If you go back to 1992 and the old Bowl Alliance and run the records to the present included the Rose Bowl in 92 to 97 this is what you find ranked top to bottom by winning %. SEC 12-7, Big 10 13-8, Pac 10 11-7, Big East 3-3, Big 12 13-14, Ind (including ND) 3-4, and dragging the rear at 10-17 the ACC. In Championship Games the SEC is 4-2 yet we have been hosed in 2 of the last 5 years (GA in 2002 and AU in 2004. The SEC should pull out of the BCS until we get a playoff.
By Eli
November 22, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this
DifferentKelly, you may be right about Florida in Tallahassee this weekend, but I just don’t see it happening. FSU is in total shambles, and, if nothing else, UF has shown that they beat the teams they’re supposed to beat (even if they make the game closer than it should be). And I’m no UF, UM or USC fan, either. I’m from Boston and graduated from BU (we don’t even have a football team!), so I feel free to root for whichever team shows me that they deserve my support! One thing I know is that I would never be caught dead rooting for the same team as BeachDawg!
By DifferentKelly
November 22, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
Eli … this is just too weird. I’ll reveal my alliances - I’m a 2004 Georgia Tech grad and a 2006 FSU grad who recently moved to Boston! And glad to hear you have some sense, because (not that I’m biased or anything, HA!) UGA has the most obnoxious fans. I can’t wait to see FSU whoop up on UF and Tech punish UGA this weekend. It just may be the best Saturday of my life! :)
By Darrin "The Vent King"
November 22, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this
God, it’s amazing how consistent you are at saying THE EXACT opposite of what everyone else feels. While many of the Dog fans may not like it, many I’ve spoken too agreed whole-heartedly with what Urban Meyer has said. It’s a joke to have Mich and OS play a 2nd time and who decides who gets to play them if Mich doesn’t get a re-match is up for plenty argument. Even though I am a Gator fan, I could see the case for Ark and USC and if those coaches lobbied for their teams, I would think it would be no more wrong than Urban doing it. If you knew how much $$$ was at stake for these guys, you wouldn’t shut up yourself if it were you. As many times Bobby Bowden lobbied for his teams to get there, no one should complain about ANYONE else doing the same. What do you expect a coach who was brought in SOLEY to bring a championship to his school to do? They must pay you good money to be a tool, because you very good at it.
GO GATORS!!
By gatordad
November 22, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this
Hey there BeachGABulldog… You call my Gators classless, yet you spout crap from your mouth(and keyboard) that exudes ANYTHING BUT CLASS!!! We gators have no less class than you foul mouthed Dawgs…and, in fact, much more…Your Dawgs lost and have lost, so it just sounds like sour grapes( dawg food )to me…
By Bob
November 22, 2006 02:02 PM | Link to this
Terrence,
I think Urban should have held his comments at least until after the Gators finished their season. I also think many of us SEC fans are way too provincial in our constant knocking of other conferences. The PAC 10 is a good conference as is the Big 10 (or is it Big 11?). That being said, the SEC is clearly better, at least this year.
Why is it you can talk about how difficult it was for the Gators to beat Vandy and South Carolina and conveniently forget to talk about Michigan’s close calls with gasp, Northwestern and Ball State? Ball State was in position to tie the Big Blue in the Big House with 2 minutes left and the ball on the M 8 yard line. I am not defending the Gators non conference schedule, but it is not their fault that FSU is so bad this year. They also played Southern Miss which is definitely better than Ball State, Central Michigan and Vandy. Notre Dame was the only good non conference team they played. Wisconsin did not play a single top 20 team except Michigan and Ohio State played Texas and Michigan. Hell they didn’t even play Wisconsin and Purdue…two of the only 5 teams in the Big 10 that had winning seasons. In other words the Buckeyes played a two game season.
Now I think OSU is the best team in the country and I also think USC is very deserving if they win out. But this crap about telling SEC coaches to shut up is BS. Michigan has absolutely no right for a rematch…and Ohio State should not have to play them again. If Michigan wins their bowl game and the Buckeyes win the National Championship, the Wolverines will probably and most deservedly be ranked number 2. Charlie Weiss complained about the BCS four weeks ago when he made his comments about Florida eating Cheeseburgers and his Irish were beating 1-10 Stanford. Mack Brown whined and weaseled his way into the Rose Bowl two years ago.
No one hates the Gators more than I do and I don’t want them to even win the SEC, but this bashing of them and the conference is pretty pathetic. Florida has or will play 4 teams in BCS top 20 and Arkansas has or will play 5 teams in BCS top 20. The Buckeyes have played 2 and Michigan played 3. Nuff said.
All of these teams except the Buckeyes have warts. Everyone was quick to bash the Big East for no defense when West Virginia and Louisville lit up the scoreboard. Strange how those teams played no defense and a 42-39 game in the Horseshoe was a classic.
Michigan has an outstanding team but they have no more right to play Ohio State again than any one of another half dozen once beaten teams.
By Techforever
November 22, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this
When someone mouths off about a team why do you start spouting out of your a*******es?The DAWGS can’t help it if some fool says nasty things about your teams.We have a big bunch of stark crazy fools blogging on here.You all should be ashamed of yourselves.Every one of your teams lose more than you like!!!!!!
By Chris
November 22, 2006 02:30 PM | Link to this
Boise State vs Ohio State
Battle of the unbeatens. The only real answer.
By medidawg
November 22, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this
Michigan had there shot and lost. Give the other best 1 loss team a shot at them. I am also beginning to think that if you don’t have a conference championship game you should be penalized somehow in the BCS. It’s not a level playing field when PAC 10 and Big 10 teams do not have that extra game.
By Bayne
November 22, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this
Let’s get away from this best 1 loss team controversy by putting Boise State in national Championship Game. Their schedule was weak but they did have one common opponent with USC
By Don!
November 22, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this
Coach Meyer is right. If you can’t win your conference, you don’t deserve to be in the national title game.
We don’t know how much better Michigan is as a potential #2 team, because they haven’t played as difficult a schedule as many of the other teams.
However, we do know they’re not the best team in their own conference — and that’s why there shouldn’t be a rematch.
I don’t have a problem with USC or Arkansas or the Gators … or Boise State for that matter — because they’re all conference champions.
Should Notre Dame beat USC — I think that would be the event that most likely opens the door for the SEC champ, and the drama over 1-loss teams and future playoffs.
Personally, I believe the lack of a playoff system is due to the relationship between the bowl boosters and college presidents. There’s no reason that an 8-team playoff can’t happen — other than the undue influence those bowls and their sponsors place on the college administrations.
Ask the coaches — they’ll tell you they want a playoff. They, like most fans, would rather see a champion crowned on the field, not on a paper ballot submitted by people with vested interests and too little knowledge of the game as a whole.
Look at the voters for the Harris poll — it should scare you.
Later,
Don!
By Objective Gator
November 22, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
Wow!!… What venom all of the Gator haters have! I have been a Gator fan for 25 years and it’s amazing how much hate people have for the orange and blue. Maybe it’s because they are an elite school, academically and athletically. Anyway, onto the football talk. It seems the media has twisted Meyer’s words into more of a whine, instead of the rational comment that he stated. I took it as to say that we need a play off system because the current system is flawed… and it is! Very rarely have we seen the BCS work. Last year was the best-case scenario for the BCS. This year it could be horrific. This year you have a group of possible candidates to take on OSU. I think they all have a chance to beat OSU. OSU is very good, but they are beatable. (See the Illinois game) I think the nation will sing a different tune about UF in the coming years. The more kids that come in that are suited to play in Urban’s system; they are only going to get better. They are currently doing what they are doing (10-1 record) with a patchwork offense. Leak’s strong suit is not the spread option. Anyway, the BCS is a bust and we need a play off system to decide the national champ. It’s the only way to decide a true NC. So all of you Gator haters out there.. keep it up. I don’t see UF dropping off the map. They have been an elite program for quite some time and I do not see them changing that anytime soon. P.S. The SEC is year in and year out a conference that has 5 or more teams in the top 25. I think that says they are one of the best conferences in the nation. Just look at this year. Look at all of the polls and you will see it is littered with SEC teams. So check your facts Gator haters. The SEC is a very good league. Unfortunately they usually knock each other out of the NC picture.
By ugablows
November 22, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
i really don’t matter gator fans, Arkansas is going to run over you in the sec title game, and oh yeah USC blew out Arkansas first game of the year….if USC beats Notre Dame then they should be in the championship game against Ohio State….screw the rematch against Michigan
p.s. TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!!!
By Josh
November 22, 2006 03:30 PM | Link to this
I am sorry, but your opinion is off the mark. Of course Pete Carroll is not complaining about the BCS because USC is always in the title contention. The PAC-10 is probably the worst BCS conference, but the media thinks their wonderful. Auburn killed Washington State, which USC barely beat. Tennessee also had a more impressive win against Cal than USC did last week. Cal also lost to Arizona which is not impressive. Other than Cal and USC who is left in the PAC-10. USC would have at least two loses in the SEC. And don’t mention the Arkansas-USC matchup because key players were missing in that game for Arkansas. USC lost to an unranked team that is just awful(Oregon St.). Michigan played only three teams worth mentioning; Wisconsin(which has not played anybody), Notre Dame(which has not beaten anybody), and Ohio State(which only beat two unchallenged, good teams). Also, Michigan almost lost to Ball State. Where is Ball State ranked? No where close to what UGA, South Carolina, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, or Arkansas are ranked. Notre Dame should not even be mentioned in any title game because they play nobody worth a flip other than Michigan(bad loss) and USC(which they should beat). Florida may not have been very impressive with all their wins, but they won the games. Florida’s only loss came in rough environment(night game at Auburn). Their defense is probably the only defense that could possibly even challenge Ohio State other than Michigan, but Michigan had their shot and lost. Urban Meyer and Tuberville have a right to complain. The SEC each year is the toughest conference to play in, no doubt. Florida’s schedule was more difficult than Michigan’s schedule or even Ohio State’s schedule. If there is a one loss SEC team, then they should be in the BCS title game.
By Collegefootball
November 22, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this
Terrance Moore is cheese. Just pure and simple, nothing but cheddar. Terrance, Urban Meyer pays more in taxes than you make in salary. Urban Meyer is the head coach of a big time major college football program. What is it you do, or better yet what is your job title? Terrance, Meyer is not crying he is just saying what he feels is right and what is wrong. Why is it that the biggest sport that the NCAA sponsors(DIV. I FOOTBAL) is the only sport where the championship is not decided on the field or on the court, in a playoff or tournament? Terrance if you will read what Meyer is saying, he is saying that he wants a playoff system. Just because you don’t like Meyer is no need for you to lamblast him. Really now can’t the money hungry TV Media and the NCAA see if they went to a playoff system how much intrest and money they could generate. Have a playoff system and eliminate teams with the top four rated teams forming “The NCAA Final Four Football Championship”. This would be so big, I do not understand the logic on this whole deal. The way it is now every year there are some teams claiming this, and claiming that, as to what they think is fair. The NCAA needs to have a better way of crowning the national champion of the biggest and most popular sport that they sponsor. And Terrance you owe Urban an apology, because he is coming to town real soon.
By terp2002
November 22, 2006 03:44 PM | Link to this
it ia a joke that the bcs has not changed the rule that only conference champs can play in the title game. and why doesn’t the big ten have 12 teams and play a championship game? it always seems the big ten champ doesn’t play the other good team in that year i.e. wisconsin this year. the big east and pac 10 play all of the other teams. and why does notre dame get special treatment if the don’t win the bcs they win nothing! by the way they have lost their last seven bowl games
By Michael
November 22, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this
Terence, you are so biased against SEC schools, you don’t see the hypocrisy right in front of you. Of course Pete Carroll is going to take his stance, he is at #3 with the BCS, and he has won 2 “titles” over the past 3 years. What does he have to lose. And for the nth time, if you bothered to read or listen to Tuberville’s comments so many weeks ago, Tuberville is lobbying for his conference, not just for Auburn. Regarding your comment on tougher schedules, the SEC has 5 teams in the top 20, including 3 in the BCS 12. The school’s the SEC pulverized this year for their non-conference games are the same schools that USC holds up for it’s “tough” conference schedule. Everyone talks about “bad” Florida has looked. What, and USC has looked better. Florida lost to a ranked Auburn team at night on the road. USC lost to an unranked team, not to mention struggling against other teams. All these SEC coaches are asking is that they get rewarded for their efforts, and telling a team that no matter how good they are, they won’t have a shot, is a disgrace. For all of this BCS nonsense, we might as well go back to the old way of having the polls at the end of the year decide the champion. I hope you don’t have a vote, Terence, because we know where you will fall.
By Jim Rome
November 22, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
**None of the Gator talk will matter after Arkansas smacks them in the grill in the SEC Championship game !!
Why don’t we wait until that game is over before we put the Gators into a game that they truly do not belong in .
out. **
By dawgsfan
November 22, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this
Do I want to listen to Urban Meyer whine, hell no! But, is he justified, sure. ONLY, in that NCAA needs a play-off. Does UF deserve to play for the NC this year? Absolutely not. But, Meyer saying that there needs to be a playoff system is correct. There really does need to be a playoff system and then those teams that don’t play anyone all year so they are undefeated will go away when they play a team that is really good. The SEC is by far the best conference, we just knock each other off by playing each other. LSU is a very good team with 3 losses and possibly 4 after they play Arkansas. How fair is that? They could stand up to a USC or Notre Dame and win and they have 4 losses.
The Pac 10 and Big 12 would not last in a playoff. Just like they are too scared to play the SEC during the season. UGA has been trying to get good teams to come to Athens but they won’t do a home and away series they will only do home. Even they know the SEC is intimidating. What did the Cal coach say after the UT game? He said that their QB was intimidated playing in Neyland. Of course he was!!
The #3-5 ranked teams will always complain about the BCS, it happens every year. It won’t stop until there is something in place that works. The BCS obviously doesn’t work.
Go Dawgs! Sorry about the obnoxious fans, but you guys have them, too!
By KingGator
November 22, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
The bowl system is not working to decide a champion, and the BCS is better, but not good enough when you have so many deserving teams. Obviously, we all agree there needs to be a playoff system. Until that happens, it will never be decided on the field, but by bias and computers. How insane to have the top revenue generating sport in college be the only sport without a playoff system.
I have the solution. Take the top four teams in the BCS after the conference championship games, have 1 play 4, and 2 play 3. Then take the two winners from each game, and play for all the marbles in a championship game that rotates between the top BCS bowls. Also, keep the bowl games in place for the lower tier teams, and everybody wins!!
KingGator
By Tony
November 22, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this
Terrence, Why dont you write an article on how pittiful the confrence is that occupies Michigan & Ohio St ?? Who in the hell do they play besides themselves ?? Pretty easy road to a championship PATHETIC SYSTEM=BCS
By TechMan
November 22, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
This year, the college Football champion may not be decided but one thing has been decided….Terence Moore isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, that’s for sure.
By Bryan
November 22, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this
The BCS is getting to be a joke and you need to check your facts. In the year that Auburn was denied the BCS, the teams they played had a higher winning percentage than both USC or Oklahoma. That said, the SEC is the toughest conference year after year, so Auburn actually played better competition. Remember how Cal was such a great team that same year and USC proudly hung their reputation on that win. Cal was crushed by a Texas Tech that was overrated at 23 in the polls. Of course Texas and Oklahoma rack up 10 easy wins almost every year. Other than those two teams, the Big 12 has only a few decent teams and the rest stink. At least 5 teams in the SEC would have at least the same record or better as USC or Texas, provided they played the same schedule.
Though USC did beat Arkansas when their best player was sidelined, the other SEC teams spanked the PAC 10. DO you really think that USC would have the record they have if they played the schedule that florida played…not a chance.
By John the Handsome
November 22, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this
How can any sane person say Oklahoma had a tougher schedule that the SEC teams. You must think you are a sports writer. All the SEC teams knock each other off week by week. Flubberville is right on this one. Okla is the the worse conference there is. Who, Texas, Okla and Neb is all of the good teams. My opinion, thanks.
By dawgboy
November 22, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this
gatordick the urban myth only wishes he could run an offense like w virginia.fla will get killed next year w/out leak setting up the “elbow”.get real spurrier has left the bldg.
By Collegefootball
November 22, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this
Beach dog why don’t you crawl back in the hole that you crawled out of. You my little boy are an idiot that thinks he is a tough guy, so you choose to use foul language and call people who are far more intelligent than you names. Beach dog, go look in the mirror and you will be looking at classless.
By Titus
November 22, 2006 10:30 PM | Link to this
Say what you want about beating each other up, but the PAC 10 is currently #1 in the Sagrin ratings. You can give LSU, Florida and Arkansas their due as real contenders but team like UGa and Auburn are over-rated. And the bottom, you have a lot of teams - S.C., Vandy, UK, Miss. State, Miss. — that are mediocre at best. A point that is justified is the Big 10 (i.e.- Wisonsin) playing an unbalanced schedule compared to the other conferences.
By Is terrence an idiot?
November 23, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this
I honestly believe that Mr. Moore would like to see a playoff, but an article along those lines would not generate the response this one has. Does Terrence get bonus pay that is tied to the number of blog comments his work (and I use this term VERY loosely) generates?
Anybody that has even the tiniest inkling of what a “championship” is, knows that a playoff is the only legitimate way to determine a champion.
The BCS is a crock, and I will not waste any of my time watching these post-season exhibition games. If everyone else did the same thing (denying the networks the ratings, that bring in the advertisers, that fuel the money grab, that is the essence of the BCS) we would move one step closer to a legitimate format for determining a national champion is college football.
By Rob
November 23, 2006 12:10 PM | Link to this
While I don’t agree with Terrence about many things, he’s right about Meyer. Florida hasn’t looked strong enough against weak teams. They should be happy they are representing the East in the SEC. I hope they get embarrassed by Arkansas.. that’ll shut Urban up. I think Tuberville had a good point 2 years ago when Auburn got snubbed… maybe he should let it go. If Georgia had been in Auburn’s shoes that year, I’d still be upset too, especially when the BCS has done NOTHING to make changes to a system that is clearly broken, and prevent that scenario from happening again.
By Jimmy
November 23, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
Why is Everyone such a Gator-hater?
First of all, winning by a close margin to Vandy and South Carolina is not that bad. Vandy is not the same Vandy it was in the past years. South Carolina is a tough team regardless of what people say. SC has kept it close with all the SEC teams. We easily have the toughest schedule out off all the top five teams in the BCS. We have faced 4 top ten defenses. more than any team in the nation.
Second, im sick of ABC/ESPN saying that the gators arent a championship team. ESPN and ABC are a bunch of sellouts, they only promote teams that signed with their network. so screw Herbstriet and screw Mark May. they have never said anything good about the Gators all year long.
If we win out, Florida should be in the
national title againts Ohio State. Case Closed