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Falcons’ hopes are finished


Jeff Schultz

Baltimore — You could sense it when the Baltimore Ravens, after spending two quarters seemingly bent on keeping the Falcons breathing and interested, commenced with their smackdown.

You could sense when players walked off the field afterward, not looking particularly dejected or angry so much as a little too accepting.

Even the head coach’s familiar “fight on” post-game ramblings seemed unusually deflated.

It’s over.

At 5-5, the numbers say otherwise. At 5-5, with three division games left, the numbers say the Falcons can still make the playoffs. Win a division. Win a Super Bowl. Set themselves up with a boatload of I-told-you-sos. But at 5-5, they probably need to go 5-1 in the next six weeks to stretch this season into overtime. And 1-5 is looking closer to reality.

The way this season has evolved, from 2-0 to beaten up and beaten down, it’s likely that Sunday’s 24-10 loss to Baltimore will not be an aberration for the season’s remainder, but rather a blueprint: Play close for a half. Then watch as opponents expose holes and run over flailing body parts.

If the Falcons can lose to bad teams, they certainly can lose to a pretty good one like Baltimore. The only question now might be how far off the track they jump.

Among those watching Sunday was the owner. This was not the season Arthur Blank envisioned, which follows a previous season he didn’t envision. Game weeks, from this point on, will be dotted with speculation about the job security of coaches and personnel decisions. It goes with the territory.

When asked if he would pay close attention to how his players and coaches perform over the next six games, Blank said: “My focus is 12 months a year. It’s not just about the last six games, or the last two games. Is the train moving in the right direction?”

So. Is it?

“That’s the question you have to ask. But I’m not going to sit here at midseason and pick the team apart. They’re doing what I would want them to do, which is have the right attitude, playing hard.”

Even giving the Falcons that benefit of the doubt Sunday, it didn’t matter. It was 24-10. It could’ve been worse. In the first half, the Ravens missed a field goal, fumbled a snap in the red zone, had one possession wrecked by three false starts (in a span of six snaps) and spent too much time trying to throw to the right side of the field against cornerback DeAngelo Hall instead of the left, home of pod-corners Allen Rossum and Omare Lowe.

In the second half, only sympathy stopped the Ravens from scoring on every possession. The first four resulted in three touchdowns and a field goal. The fifth ended with Steve McNair taking a knee in the final seconds on the Falcons’ 17. (Turns out, Brian Billick has a heart.)

Offensively, things remain a mutating mess. Neither Michael Vick nor the offense had a turnover — a plus. But they looked lost. They had season lows in rushing (104) and total yardage (186). They managed only one touchdown for the third straight game. Warrick Dunn remarked on how the team seemed to abandon the running game in the second half. (“That’s a little bit uncharacteristic for us.”)

Vick, who needs to be a difference-maker, wasn’t. Again. He completed 10 of 14 passes in the first half, 1 of 7 in the second. He overthrew Alge Crumpler in the end zone. He also took a 17-yard sack that erased field-goal range.

This Greg Knapp-choreographed offense has only three touchdowns in the past three games after scoring eight in the previous two.

Blank was asked about Vick’s inconsistency. Predictably, he chose to spread the blame. “When an organization performs at a very high level and then doesn’t, it tells me that the capacity [to play well] is there and you have to ask yourself, ‘Why is there inconsistency?’

“We have the right people on board [to fix the problems]. They have to do it, though.”

This makes three straight losses. The problems aren’t being fixed. The schedule says there are six games left. Logic begs to differ.

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By William Kitchens

November 19, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

I’ll say it again… Mr. Blank better understand that no head coach willing to chat with him on the sidelines at any point in the game is going to be a winner. Fans are also getting sick of seeing these chats while the team is getting smacked around.

By Ken Whisenhunt

November 19, 2006 08:45 PM | Link to this

Arthur,

Call me. I am interested.

By its over

November 19, 2006 08:46 PM | Link to this

End the misery. Today’s game was boring, it sucked and we lost. The falcons are the same old falcons. Jim Mora was not the fans original choice to become the head coach and now it’s time to cut ties. Let him be a cheerleader in the stands, he seems to be more interested in getting the crowd into the game rather than coaching the game. The cell phone, the family tree, it all sucks. He sucks! Playoffs? are you kidding me….playoffs? whoops, just like his daddy, it’s time for him to get replaced! Blank, you got the money, pay the big boys….Bring in Jimmy Johnson, Dick Vermeil, hell, I don’t care but this ship has sunk and we are p**! I thought we had the best deal of the san diego trade, but now I wonder how we would be with LT, but we wouldn’t have drafted him, Reeves would’ve drafted a TE, so that doesn’t matter. JIM MORA SUCKS!

By eric

November 19, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

I think the birds have the bird FLU.They cant do anything on offence defense and now specialteams PITIFUL. FIRE EM ALL.

By BirdDawg

November 19, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this

As long as that immature CHILD Jim Mora and his best buddy, Greg Knapp are running things, nothing will ever get better.

Hey Rich Man you blew it when you decided a man with a bunch of worthless notebooks was better than a far more qualified coach in Lovie Smith.

Lovie Smith, whose defenses always finished near the top of the league.

Jim Mora’s 49er defenses were always in the middle, if they were even that good.

Hmmm, Rich Man, YOU are the reason this team is the way it is. YOU are the one who picked this childish, immature, and out of his element coach to guide this team.

YOU should have picked Lovie, and many of us thought that 3 years ago. Lovie is building something in Chicago that will last. Jim Mora won with Dan Reeves’s guys his first year, and then after he and his idiotic DC really got their claws on the defense, well, we see what’s happened.

What would the rest of y’all have had? A defense that is aggressive and runs around hitting people in the mouth? An offense that takes advantage of it’s QB’s arm strength and throws downfield, with an offensive line that is great at pass blocking instead of this zone chop blocking cheating crap?

Or would you rather have what we have now? A defense that doesn’t scare anyone and is never aggressive? An offense that shackles our talented QB with an OC who is the worst OC in the history of the NFL? And with an O-Line made up of a bunch of losers who are short, weak, wouldn’t start for any other team in the NFL, but sure can cheat real good in the running game but can’t pass block to save their lives?

Which would you fans want?

And more importantly, which would YOU want, RICH MAN?!!!

This is Arthur Blank’s fault, for choosing Jim Mora, a petulant, immature, child.

WHAT THE HELL WERE IN THE NOTEBOOKS, ANYWAY?!!!

AND WHY THE HELL CAN OUR QB’S STILL NOT AUDIBLE?!!!

By TD

November 19, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

Regarding the 17 yard sack, everyone at the game could see that the Ravens were going to blitz, and like most of the day, the Falcons had nothing to counter it. They can’t pick up blitzes and Vick should have spent even more time in the shotgun. Also, when playing the Ravens, you are a fool if you don’t go to a no huddle at least part of the game. The 4th and one call to start the game was a terrible call and there were more to follow. Plus, there were the 212 return yards. The Falcons consistently gave the Ravens the short field.
The defense can’t put pressure on the QB and even when the blitz they have time to complete a pass, as McNair did on a 3rd and 8 during the 87 yard drive (the only real drive they had all day) Offenses can run against the Ravens, but the Falcons prefer undersized linemen and they really have a tough time pushing bodies back. When Vick did run the ball he was successful, but those plays are rarely called. He probably could have ran the ball in on the 2nd and goal when he missed Crumpler.
Finally, the Ravens have one of the best defenses in the league. that is why they are 8 and 2. When I watch the falcons they seem to be consistently 2nd and long.

By Rumor

November 19, 2006 08:53 PM | Link to this

Sports Illustrated is reporting that Jim Mora, Sr. called Vick a “Coach Killer” in his weekly radio show on Fox. That should provide ample fuel for the flames in Flowery Branch this week!

The sad truth of the Falcons is that they bet on the wrong QB and the wrong coaching staff. Problem is that neither will change very quickly as Mr. Blank has bought into the whole package. Vick has had plenty of time to adapt to the NFL but continues to make decent receivers look bad. Knapp doesn’t help with his poor playcalling and Mora is just a high-paid male cheeleader trying to keep the morale up. Not only is this season over(you can see it in the players actions) but the next few years will bring the same unless their is a change in leadership.

By Local Yokel

November 19, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this

Jeff, you have this poorly coached group of underachievers very well figured out. The Falcons are a lot closer to cellar dwellers than Super Bowl contenders. Oy, let the speculation begin about who Sir Arthur will be kibbitzin with on the sidelines next season.

By Jack

November 19, 2006 09:01 PM | Link to this

I’m sick and tired of the receivers getting all the blame for dropping Vick’s below the knees throws. They might catch one of those in a game but not every time, the overrated QB needs to throw a ball that is reasonably catchable. As for Napoleon Dynomite Mora, he should have never been hired. He is on an ego trip…hey look at me I’m the smartest coach in the world and if I even lower myself to answer one of your questions I will talk down to you as if you were brain damaged or else shrug off your question as being beneath a superior being such as the Great Jim Mora. Fire the little twerp now and let him go coach running out of the locker room somewhere else.

By Lynne

November 19, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

How could Jim Mora Sr call any QB a “coach killer” when he’s still breathing? Its so sad to see the early stages of dementia set in on him like this.

By William Kitchens

November 19, 2006 09:06 PM | Link to this

Jeff why don’t you ask Blank what he’s chatting about with Mora on the sidelines during a game! You folks that want to say Blank is the owner and bla bla don’t get it. It’s not that Blank is down there… it’s that he’s talking to the Head Coach while he’s trying to do his job. If anyone jumps me for this they better name another winning head coach who’d put up that kind of nonsense during a game.

By Mr C.

November 19, 2006 09:09 PM | Link to this

Maybe the season proves that size really matters. We draft undersized Defensive linemen and wait till the 6th and 7th round to draft undersized offensive linemen. The OL can hardly block anyone hence the constant pressure on the QB. You can stick a fork on the falcons. They are done. The only question is if they will finish with a winning record.

Footwork means a lot in the NFL. When Vick overthrew Alge at the end zone, his footwork was terrible. It’s quite amazing that the coaches haven’t been able to teach Vick how to set his feet before making a throw.

By Dwight

November 19, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

Jeff,

I was at the game and I talked with a some of the players, after it was over. I agree with your assesment. This loss was different. There was not a lot of anger or disaapointment. There was more of a sense of resignation in the air. I’m an optimistic fan, so I can only hope that the season is not over.

Truth is……..we have the wrong coaching staff in place.

By Dwight

November 19, 2006 09:21 PM | Link to this

Jeff,

I was at the game and spoke with some of the players afterwards. I got the same sense that you did. There was not anger or great dissappointment. There seemed to be a sense of resignation. I hope I’m wrong, but I really am starting to believe that we have the wrong coaching staff.

By okoou

November 19, 2006 09:22 PM | Link to this

observations today

1 when the ravens missed that first FG and the tv cameras showed Mora pumping his arms in the air, I tried to imagine a winner like Landry or Belichek doing the same thing. Alas, I could not. Mora is a WWF wannabe…a loser 2 when the falcons were getting a raven dikk shoved up their a* in the 2nd half, I had to laugh when the TV showed Mora actually yelling “fight fight fight” at his players. my god, these are million dollar athletes and he is yelling things at them like it is 1940 and he is coaching a high school team at St. James Cagney High. 3 Mr Blank….dude is a billionaire and good at giving customers what they want, but the “NFL customer” is a different breed sir. You have certainly done all you can with one exception. You spent the $$$, you hired “winning” GM. Heck, you even do right by lowering ticket prices to get those seats filled up. BUt, PUHLEEZE, hold folks accountable. If Cocah Jim is not improving and he refuses to hold his coaches accountable- well then, hold his bullshytting a$$ accountable. Coach JIm folled you once when you hired him, please dont let him fool you twice. Also, why the f******* do you go down to the sidelines at the end of embarrassing losses???? It reminds me of of dumba$$ George Bush handing out medals to Bremer and Wolfowitz and saying “heckuva job, brownie” right before he shytcanned Brownie. Come on, Arthur. Fans are dumb, are you?

By Tony H

November 19, 2006 09:22 PM | Link to this

All I’m going to say is next week John Abraham returns and our defence will start looking like a team that will make a run at the playoffs just look around you who really can’t the Falcons beat in the NFC with a pass rush that you can count on week in and week out. They will regroup after this week beat NO then WASH and Tampa that will make them 8-5 and then I’ll see you Vick haters write something else see you in three weeks.

By Dwight

November 19, 2006 09:23 PM | Link to this

Is it true that Vick does not have the option to audible in this offense?

If so, why!!!!!!!

He had the ability to audible to at least one other play, in the last offense that ran.

By kris

November 19, 2006 09:25 PM | Link to this

Blank only cares about making $. As long as the seats are filled, he does not really care. Expect no changes except some cosmetic ones.

By bob gillesspee

November 19, 2006 09:26 PM | Link to this

All I can say is God Bless the Patriots and thier great off the field owner, Mr. Kraft,

By Earl

November 19, 2006 09:27 PM | Link to this

Why are we beating around the bush here? Vick is the most overrated piece of crap I’ve ever seen. All you have to do is look at the stats. Atlanta is 30th in the league in pass offense and Vick’s in the lower third in passer rating. Put Schaubb in NOW and salvage the damn season. Maybe we can use Vick for trade bait but I doubt anyone wants him. Oh, I forgot, he sells jerseys. Anyway, somebody like Oakland might want him and we could pay part of his salary to go there. Geez, he is pathetic and unless Mora realizes that and plays the real quarterback, it’s over for him too.

By kris

November 19, 2006 09:27 PM | Link to this

Vick throws the worst deep ball. Our receivers always have to catch it like a punt. Other Quarterbacks will catch the receiver in stride-example Roddy White catch-Vick even threw off his back foot for that one-pathetic.

By Brydogg

November 19, 2006 09:28 PM | Link to this

Hey Falcons, you may like adversity, but we sure as heck don’t. I’d take the Colts over this crap any day.

And per your presser last week Coach, we’re still waiting on it to get amazing.

And Greg Knapp, take a look at the D. Donatell is doing a good job (all things considered) with the former waterboy and towel man on the DLine, while you can’t get 3 1st round draft pick receivers to be a consistent threat.

Anybody else enjoy the fade to Blakely, or the runs on 3rd and long, or the handoff to Dunn on 4th and 1? Knapp is truly an offensive mastermind.

By REFMan

November 19, 2006 09:30 PM | Link to this

You know what, Steelers fans & Pittsburgh columnists said the same thing about the Steelers last season after they lost 3 in a row. The Steelers could’ve easily quit but instead won every single game on to the Super Bowl. The Falcons are in a similar position. Will they accept mediocrity & quit? Or will they man up & play with intensity / heart? I really hope it’s the latter but I wouldn’t be surprised if we continue to be mediocre.

By REFMan

November 19, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

You can see why the 49ers fans were so happy when Knapp was gone… They said he was the worst OC they ever had. I can also see why Terrell Owens was frustrated at him. At the same time Vick needs to grow mentally. When a team is overloading the line, getting ready to blitz. Vick should at least try to audible / change the protection schemes & not just stay there to get instant pressure in your face.

By gdg73

November 19, 2006 09:37 PM | Link to this

Somebody is going to lose their job this year if the team does not make a miraculous turn around and make the playoffs this year. I’m not going to talk about the game because the true knowledgeable fans see the problem with this team. No need to reiterate. I’d hate to see Donatell get another pass with the inuries, but I believe he will. But if Mora is axed, he’s probably gone too. I hate the sissy mentality on both sides of the ball. No imagination on offense and no aggression on defense.

By REFMan Vick isn't allowed to audible

November 19, 2006 09:38 PM | Link to this

Hey REF, I don’t know how weel you know the concepts that the team attempts to execute on offense, but…….They do not practice audibles and it’s not something that Vick is encouraged to do.

Can you believe that?!!

By The Truth

November 19, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this

We are hosed * They looked very “Swamp Fox” like today*

CLEAN HOUSE They are looking square at 6-10. Count it.

By Dwight

November 19, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

REF,

They don’t practice or encourage audibles. I can’t understand why, because the last administration allowed Vick to audible.

By Titothebear

November 19, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

Here’s the excerpt from the senior Mora: Interviewed on Fox Sports Radio’s Out of Bounds, former NFL coach Jim Mora was asked by co-host Craig Shemon if Michael Vick — the franchise quarterback for the team coached by Mora’s son — was a ‘coach killer’?

“I think you’re correct,” Mora answered. “And it worries me a little bit because my son is the head coach down there, ya know? But he’s a great athlete, my son likes him a lot, he’s a good kid. But he’s not a passer. And you need a passer at quarterback to be successful consistently in the National Football League. And he ain’t gettin’ it done in that category. I agree with you.”

Vick has already ended the career of one coach and he’s deep into the second homicide by poisoning. Let’s hope he’s dumped out of the NFL, into the Arena League, before he can chalk up number three!

By REFMan

November 19, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

Not encouraged to? This coaching staff is a joke. They promised us an aggressive / intensive approach but instead we get the opposite. They’re more prevent the big play / mistakes instead of attacking. The front office brought in all this talent but they overlooked one of the most important aspects of a football team, the offensive line. Yes, these cheap / late round / practice squad guys are good for the Gibbs run blocking scheme. But boy are they horrible at pass protection. You pay all this money for the QB only to go cheap on the offensive line? That’s like surrounding a Ferrari with a bunch of old 1985 Ford Taurus cars.

By TonyG

November 19, 2006 09:46 PM | Link to this

did anyone notice jim mora never wore a headset or even held a clipboard??? HE IS A CHEERLEADER! maybe he’d be cool to have around to motivate guys, but he suckered blank and mckay in to giving him this gig. he has got to go along with knapp and maybe even donattel. on a critical third down on defense all he was doing was yelling “FIGHT!FIGHT!” at his players. COACH!!!Do something to help your team!!

By Deez Nuts

November 19, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this

what i am waiting to see is that one game where king arthur decides that i am not going to go down there and play grab AS5 with mora this time. no, i am going to go down there, whip my coat off, rip my tie off, roll up my sleeves, and then run over to mora and give him a big old kick in the AS5 and then pummel him once he gets him down to the ground. or maybe i will tell my koenen to do my kicking for me but he would probably miss and end up kicking air or he would let knapp run over and block as if it was almost as fixed as that blocked kick in the new orleans game. i could ask the old man to kick little junior but the old man is my best player on the team and i need him to at least kick field goals because otherwise we would never score. then i will tell abraham to finally do something useful with all of my money and hold little jimbo down while i go over and kick the hell out of knapp. hey abe, hold jimbo down while i put knapp into a permanent nap. now don’t retear your hamstring/groin and every other leg muscle while holding him down abe. i know you are more than a tad bit brittle. hey, vick what exactly are you laughing about? i’m not paying you all of this $$$$ to go smirking and laughing with everyone and their mother after you have stunk up the joint yet again. hey schaubie, you are a well known bar room brawler, why don’t you go over and slap that smirk off the face of that little wannabe court jester? if you will do that, i will let you be the Qb for the next six games. I am King Arthur and I did not pay you $130 million Michael so that you can be nothing more than my glorified court jester. Besides, Fred McCray is already my court jester so i am not looking for my $130 million dollar man to be my court jester. Hey Rich McKay or shall i call you daddy’s boy, why exactly were you pushed out the door the year after you won a super bowl with tampa anyway? and why exactly did i hire you? Oh Danny Boy, the blogs, the blogs they are a calling, from glen to glen, and down the mountain side: COME BACK DAN REEVES!! i am sorry man. i need you. i really need you. but first ask me what the hell kind of job was your son in law doing with my special teams unit today?

By Bear

November 19, 2006 09:51 PM | Link to this

Jeff,

Just tell Arthur to cancel the season. First the team lost interest, and now the fans seem to be losing interest. I am usually not one to call for the coach’s scalp when a team underperforms as this one has, but I am of the opinion that this coaching staff has no idea how to coach an NFL level team. Perhaps, they need to go coach the football team at Georgia State, while Arthur finds a group of professionals to coach his team. Jeff. We finally agree. What’s the world coming to?

By Deez Nuts

November 19, 2006 09:53 PM | Link to this

vick may not have a heart or a brain but he sure as hell has one helluva funny bone. did you see him yucking it up with the ravens at the end of the game. i thought chappelle and rock were playing for the ravens or something. meanwhile the rest of us fight with each other and act like we want to kill each other over a stupid football game none of us were playing in. we can’t care more about this team than any of these bums

By Rick

November 19, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Get real folks, I do not see this team winning more than 2 games the rest of the season. So what if the d-line gets healthy, is that going to make the over paid, over hyped,loser qb get going? These guys make the money , they dont give a rats A$$ if they win or lose. look at them. Vick sits on the side lone, win or lose, same dumb lost look in his eyes. The time for him to mature has come and gone, he has been in the big league for 6 years, its over for him, He has done nothing! Highlight footage of scrambles do not win playoff games. Mora is a dumbass in over his head. Time to cut your loses, geta new coach, staff and qb in here.These guys simply are not winners.

By Deez Nuts

November 19, 2006 09:58 PM | Link to this

tony g:

great observation. where was the headphones and clipboard? what the hell? is this high school? how could a head coach get away with that and still have his job tomorrow? unfreakingbelievable.

i do not know about you guys but I am still wearing for Cheri Oteri and Will Ferrell to join Jimbo on the sidelines so that they can form the ultimate cheerleading dream team.

“Fight! Fight! Fight!” was that cheesy and hilarious or what? i wanted to cry when i saw it but six or seven hours later i can not stop laughing about it. yes, MV7, it has now taken me six or seven hours to finally start giggling and laughing about the game. something it unfortunately only took you about six or seven seconds to do.

By chadinga

November 19, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

Vick can’t audible b/c he’s too stupid to do so. He sounds like a rapper in his interviews. He needs to spend more time hanging out with Dunn and Brooking (if they would tolerate his ghetto a* off the field) and less time with his “posse.” You go Ron Mexico!

By Titothebear

November 19, 2006 10:00 PM | Link to this

Here’s the excerpt from the senior Mora: Interviewed on Fox Sports Radio’s Out of Bounds, former NFL coach Jim Mora was asked by co-host Craig Shemon if Michael Vick — the franchise quarterback for the team coached by Mora’s son — was a ‘coach killer’?

“I think you’re correct,” Mora answered. “And it worries me a little bit because my son is the head coach down there, ya know? But he’s a great athlete, my son likes him a lot, he’s a good kid. But he’s not a passer. And you need a passer at quarterback to be successful consistently in the National Football League. And he ain’t gettin’ it done in that category. I agree with you.”

Vick has already ended the career of one coach and he’s deep into the second homicide by poisoning. Let’s hope he’s dumped out of the NFL, into the Arena League, before he can chalk up number three!

By t.c.

November 19, 2006 10:03 PM | Link to this

Can I just say how much I personally miss Brian. Get Well, Soon.

By lee

November 19, 2006 10:07 PM | Link to this

If I had a QB like M Vick, I would be a losing coach too. No coach in the league can help Vick improve. He doesnt have the ability to improve. After 5 years, huh, he doesnt even understand fundamentals. Mentally Vick cant grasp any phase of the game. Stop blaming loses on the coaches. They can’t think, or play for him. Problem is you can’t dump that contract. Move him to reciever atleast. Give the rest of the team a chance.

By P.J.

November 19, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this

COME BACK DAN REEVES

What short memories we have. In 2003, while Vick was injured, this team clearly quit on Reeves. I recall God awful games against the Titans (though they were up 21-0 early) and Panthers.

Everyone needs to understand that coaches have massive egos (after all, that’s how they ascend in the ranks) so they’re loathe to tinker with the talent they have because they’re so Hades-bent on seeing their vision come to fruition. Michael Vick needs to have opportunities to run the “Run and Shoot” at times. Not all the time, but some of the time, even the ability to “audiblize”. The June Jones offense put up gaudy numbers, but Jones’ problem is that he wouldn’t switch to the “I” formation when necessary and he didn’t care about the “D”, plus he didn’t have the number one attribute any NFL head coach needs, the respect of his players.

But I digress. It’s absolutely inexcusable that Vick had better numbers his first year as a starter. The NFL Ds have not adjusted to him. In 2002, they were already employing “spies” on him. This is all about a coaching staff that is hindering his capabilities.

By yup

November 19, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

FIRE MORA THATS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO ARTHUR BLANK…BRING IN A COACH WHO KNOW HOW TO USE VICK…THE FALCONS DON’T NEED WEST COAST OFFENSE THEY NEED THE MIKE VICK OFFENSE. OH ONE MORE THING FIRE MORA KNAPP, DONATELL, BRING IN CHARLIE WISE HE WOULD KNOW HOW TO USE MIKE VICK…

By Lynne

November 19, 2006 10:26 PM | Link to this

Its a shame some of these posters are so ignorant. Its a shame they haven’t the decency to make intelligent criticisms without resorting to cheap insults. The jealousy for the amount of money these players make is getting kinda scary. Gee whiz, get over the fact that you aren’t a popular young multi-millionaire already!

By Ron Mexico

November 19, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

I can’t wait for Chris Chandler to get healthy again so he can take us to another Superbowl.

Maybe this time “Big Play Ray” won’t stay out all night looking for whores…

By adam hobbs

November 19, 2006 10:49 PM | Link to this

I am sooo sick and tired of people saying “Vick can’t throw he will never be a passer”. Hello!!! in order for Vick to be a passer he has to have recievers that will catch the damn ball. If Brett Favre or Peyton Manning throws a ball a little high for his receivers to go and get then they are such great qb’s, however if Vick does the same thing then he is an awful qb. We need to get rid of Roddy White and Michael Jenkins, go get some better recievers and hire and new coaching staff. Mora and Knapp do not know how to call plays period!! Oh and we need a different offensive line, one who’s not afraid of blocking someone

By Help!

November 19, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

Mr. Blank may want to get started on his apology letter to NBC/ESPN as the Saturday night game against Dallas next month is shaping up to be another national television embarassment. It’s no coincidence that this team gets fewer and fewer national tv games each year. The major networks don’t want to take the chance of getting one of many Vick off nights. Time to clean house boys and Vick should go with the coaching staff!

By darrin

November 19, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

what is it going to take to open YOUR DAMN eyes MIKE VICK SUXXXXXXXXXX he is not nor ever will be a N.F.L./ quarterback he cant audible he cant put the soft touch hell he cant do anything but run and Jim Mora is a freakin JOKE!!!!!! FIRE HIS A* NOW AND WE”LL COME OTHERWISE go TITANS this was pathetic and GREG KNAPP can hgo straight to hell or S.F. WHEREVER F* HANG OUT MR. BLANK LISTEN GET US A COACH AND GET VICK THE HELL OUTTA HERE AND WHERE IS MATT SCHAUB OH AND STOP PLAYING THAT P** ANT WARRICK DUNN.

By cg

November 19, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

PJ you are dead on—I can’t believe these fickle fair-weather Atlanta fans—-you give up/critize too quickly—-We need to stay behind our team no matter what—-It’s o.k. to talk about what’s not working but in the end we need to support our team—Dynasty teams did not all start out winning—-Landry/Dallas and Brown/Cleveland lost a lot of games before they started winning. GO FALCONS—BEAT NO!! YOU CAN DO IT AND YOU WILL!!

By D-man

November 19, 2006 10:56 PM | Link to this

So, I guess this yet another game VICK will claim responsibilty for??? Does this mean he will refund some of that 140 million?

By Wes

November 19, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this

I’ve been a Falcon Fan for many, many years. I remember things that many fans don’t even know about. Like the “Grits Blitz”, I have the Record of the song “Falcon Fever”. I remember Billy White Shoes Johnson, Scott Case, William Andrews, Lynn Cain & Alford Jenkins. I have suffered for many years and continually am disappointed. I am so tired of watching a team who has the ability to win not only tuff games and tuff opponents, but also win the games they should. I always thought it was because of the Smiths who were the owners but we now know that’s not the case. Coach Jim Mora needs to go. It is ultimately his responsibility to get his team prepared to win and he’s proven that he can’t do it. Someone needs to teach Vick how to hold the ball when he runs and how to learn to hold onto the ball. But it all shouldn’t be on his shoulders to have to make all the plays because Two First Round Draft Picks cant catch the ball. Please Falcons Front Office you owe it to your Fans and to the city of Atlanta to be Winners. Clean house and get rid of Mora and these two wasted First Round Picks and get a real Coach and real Players who have the desire to win.

By Will Blog for Food

November 19, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

As a Falcons fan you just have to ask yourself why is this time regressing from NFC South champs in 2004 to 8-8 (after going 2-6) in 2005 to what might well be a losing season this year? We have improved our talent yet we’re headed in the wrong direction. It’s clear - the coaching staff has lost the team. These things happen. Time to cut bait and move on.

By Mothball

November 19, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this

“Another season withering on the Vine” with your hosts Mora, Knapp, Donatell, and Vick.

This team is lost and everyone can see it. Drastic changes are in order, but alas, they are probably not coming. After all, the team and ESPN are laying the foundation for another year of mediocrity referencing our $25 million in injured salary. That’s the NFL folks.

Mora is a putz and needs to be on the next train out of town with his staff in tow.

Vick is another story. He’s a superior athlete capable of spectacular plays and a hack of a quarterback. He is not a leader nor is he going to morph into Steve Young. He is what he is. In his 6th year, why on earth should anything else be expected? He will have flashes of brilliance surrounded by less than adequate performances.

This guy has no humility and believes the hype. He wakes up in the morning, massages his “S” tattoo, and knows he is the best the world has ever seen. He tells HBO he wishes he could throw to Marvin Harrison and the other Colts receivers. He actually believes he could step in for Manning. Of course, the Colts’ receivers are thankful this is just Vick musing as he massages his “S”. I mean, how many elite quarterbacks would say that crap?

I love all the racial garbage too. All of the Falcons fans that I know just want a winner, with or without Vick. But, his inconsistency simply will not allow it. McNair and McNabb have bad games thrown into great careers. Vick has good games sprinkled into a mediocre career.

I hope something changes to prove me incorrect. GO FALCONS!

By Observer

November 19, 2006 11:42 PM | Link to this

Why isn’t Vick allowed to audible? Is it because Knapp is secretly prejudiced and thinks a Black QB can’t possibly be smart enough to change a doomed passing play into a run?

If Knapp believes that, then I think that makes him the real dummy here.

By 97Devil

November 19, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

-Arthur Blank has no business talking to any coaches during a game. Nothing good could possibly from it.

-Jim Mora is incapable of leading a team to a superbowl win.

-Mike Vick is the greatest athlete I’ve ever seen on a football field. He is also the worst passer I’ve seen.

-Injuries have crushed this team, and has obviously had a huge impact on this year’s record. But why sign guys with track records of being injury prone, ala Ed Hartwell and Abraham

By michael m.

November 20, 2006 12:13 AM | Link to this

these are quotes from ravens de trevor pryce after today’s game… anyone notice the difference between what billicks says and does, and what “the notebook” mora espouses:

“[Head coach] Brian Billick came in here and said something smart. He said, ‘Defense and special teams, y’all just hold on until we get back on track.’ That was a great quote. It wasn’t ‘Let’s get it going, blah, blah, blah. Let’s get one for the Gipper,’ that type of thing. It was very real, rather than just playing on our emotions. This is the NFL. Those guys on the other side get paid to play too. It was just let’s all hold on until we get back on track.”

By kent

November 20, 2006 12:26 AM | Link to this

same shi……..ts, diferent day

By Henry

November 20, 2006 12:36 AM | Link to this

It is true that Knapp’s play calling is not up to NFL standard, but Vick also must take a lot of the blame for the offense, because he should be able to change the play at the line, if he sees something after Knapp calls the play. I know some folks are calling it Vick Haters, but let me say I am a season ticket holder and an African American, and truth is I do not see us winning with Vick as QB and Mora as Head Coach with Knapp as OC. Vick should have been better by now, look at Drew Breeze, Rivers, Grossman,Eli,to name a few who have come into the league same time or later than Vick. It is true that the O line is not good but he is not helping. How can anyone defend him missing Crumpler open in the end zone from ten yards out. Arthur needs to show us that he really cares about us the suffering Falcons Fans. McKay is not blameless, he seems to be living on the glory of Dungie Draft Picks in Tampa. How the hell can you not improve the D line nad keep using 1st round picks on Wide recievers that cannot catch the dam ball. Why use a 1st round pick on Roddy White? The scouts fall under McKay’s Job responsibility and they have done a poor a* job so Mckay needs to take the heat. I am not yet ready to give up on the season, as I believe that Abraham at full health will make a huge difference, the question though, will he be at 100%. The replacements on the D Line did do as good a job as could be expected, until they got tired in the 4th Qtr. Let us hope things will change starting next week as i am tired of loosing.

By falcondawg

November 20, 2006 12:48 AM | Link to this

To all the MV7 haters, I’ll admit that he needs to improve considerably but I place most of the blame on Jim Moron and company. This team is too talented to be this bad. Not allowing the qb to audible, calling idiotic plays, bringing in injured players (research would have shown that Abe had a groin problem before he came here), sticking with a corner who couldn’t cover a 95 year old man and on and on and on. It’s very depressing for us and I hope change is made asap! Heck, let them play without a coach for the rest of the season. They probably couldn’t sink any lower.

By Ron Roberts

November 20, 2006 12:48 AM | Link to this

Today’s loss was “expected” by the fans, prognosticators, owner, coaches, and players, as well. That’s why you saw no solace in their eyes at the end of the day.

The Detroit and Cleveland losses? That’s where ya saw the disdain and disheartened looks. They weren’t supposed to lose those games, but a poorly-coached, poorly-prepared team in the NFL can lose to anybody, and it’s an immature head coach that has this team losing to such teams far more frequently than they should. Hell, even Lovie Smith led Chicago through a near-miss at Arizona and a complete falter against Miami at home.

But a good NFL team doesn’t trip up twice in the same season, let alone, in back-to-back games!!!

The next two weeks will tell the tale. Either this team gets itself up off the deck and improves with returning Hartwells and Abrahams (sooner than later, please…) or it won’t.

What this team lacks is a bruising back (love ya Warrick, but you don’t wear down defenses… you out-run ‘em when our line gives you a hole, which it hasn’t done in weeks)… what this team lacks is a reciever the QB can trust, aside from the TE, who, by the way, is being torn apart by defenses who know we have this deficiency.

Thankfully, Tampa Bay is worse than we are, in the long run.

By ouch

November 20, 2006 12:51 AM | Link to this

VICK SUCKS…….MOVE HIM TO WR…..HE IS NEVER GOING TO DEVELOP AS A QB….HE DID BETTER UNDER DAN REEVES

By Mattlanta

November 20, 2006 12:52 AM | Link to this

I acknowledge all you fans are pi$$ed and want to complain. However, it AIN’T Vicks fault. I agree with Bradshaw saying ” Vick has played his Butt off but the recievers are no dang good. I was hoping that they would play this week with a chip on their shoulder, “Didn’t happen”! The offensive line stinks. I would say to the coach’s “You know what you have had for 3 years now—MAKE IT WORK—Like most fans, I am a results oriented person and have seen the results thus far!If the offense isn’t scoring and the defense can’t stop teams from scoring, Maybe it time for a change. No mre excuses

By Cap

November 20, 2006 12:53 AM | Link to this

Barry Sanders. The most electrifying running back of his generation gained more yards than anyone besides Walter Payton and had to lose more yards than any runner in the history of the NFL to do it. The Lions are among the Falcons, Cardinals, and Saints as the worst football franchises ever. The Lions would get shut down; Sanders would come back the next season to shred defenses until opposing teams would figure out he was the only player worth defending then he would be shut down until on his own he would figure out on his own a new way to shred defenses the next year. His whole career Barry Sanders alternated winning and losing seasons carrying that horrible team on his back that actually believed Scott Mitchell was the answer at QB! The Lions went through two head coaches and did absolutely nothing to improve that franchise for over a decade. The only thing they ever did was stink bad enough to draft barry sanders. After wasting his entire career, Sanders walked away from the Lions. Since that season, the Lions are the worst franchise in the NFL. As a franchise they have utterly no concept of how to improve that team. But they beat the Falcons. Now the Atlanta fanbase just watched a special teamer rack up more total yards than their offense, let a run-based Baltimore team that can’t actually run the ball come from behind, and saw four to five unblocked defenders slinging around their QB like a ragdoll. This is the same team that broke Vick’s leg in the preseason and the team completely went into the tank and the Falcons o-line didn’t even see this coming. Now Atlanta fans want Vick out of town. The only player who has ever allowed the Falcons to be losers only ever other year rather than six or seven years straight. As if this franchise is going to get rid of the most electrifying player of his generation but somehow come to an epiphany and actually be able to build a team. Please if the Falcons front office KNOWS it can draft and attract free agents by all means force Vick into retirement or trade him and clear up some cap space. But something tells me no Vick means Atlanta will become the Detriot Lions of the South (or the Arizona Cardinals of the East).

By garrett

November 20, 2006 12:54 AM | Link to this

When a team is wildly inconsistent and without an idientity, it goes straight to the coaching staff. This is no longer any sort of mystery. Vick will never properly harness his abilities with this staff, not that he necessarily would with any other one. If they have the balls, they should unload him to a stupid team for a bunch of picks and start anew.

By joj

November 20, 2006 01:01 AM | Link to this

8 presidents and forty years I’ve waited, whats a few more years.

By Chris

November 20, 2006 01:04 AM | Link to this

As a Jets fan, had many underachieving seasons since becoming a fan as a kid during the Richard Todd era. With that said. Mora Jr. was a hiring based on nepotism which continues to undermine local businesses, up to sports teams (Falcons),up to our presidency (Bush Jr). They gave Mora the chance in 2004 due to his last name with the assumptions that that in itself was credible.It was Reeves team in 2004. Just like the bumbling Switzer won with Jimmy’s team in 1995. One should be judged 3 years into a tenure for better of for worse.I do find it amusing how fickle Atlanta fans are though.Since 1995, a better part of Braves playoff games had vacant seats. Took that for granted and now that run is over and won’t rise again in the foreseeable future. As a New Yorker…my unbiased opinion. Rust belt towns like Pitt and Cleveland have the most appreciative fans through good and bad. Your city in LA are the 2 most fairweather. I know Atlanta has some passionate fans, this is a general consensus in some 30 years of following pro sports.Vick reminds me of a more athletic version of Kordell Stewart and will end his career the same. Flashes of pure athleticism, but will atleast half the time need Dr Heimlich in a key spot.

By Eli

November 20, 2006 01:04 AM | Link to this

BirdDawg - Well said. You have this Gator’s full respect; your post hit the nail right on the head.

The problems facing the Falcons most definitely start at the top. Blank is allowed one mulligan, and this is it. He probably never should have fired Reeves, especially considering the difficulty any coach would have had with the most useless Gator in history (Doug Johnson) at QB. The firing was Subsection 1 of Mulligan 1. Subsection 2 of Mulligan 1 was the subsequent hiring of one Jim Mora Jr., henceforth referred to derisively as “Junior.” What on earth convinced Blank that Junior was the right choice? I heard once that Karl Rove used to show up to high school debate contests with stacks of index cards three feet high. 99% of those cards had absolutely nothing on them, but they intimidated the other team to the point that he had a mental edge. I’d be willing to bet good money that Junior had nothing but Algebra notes and doodles in those notebooks. He’s a politician, not a coach. Do you think a coach like Parcells or Belichick would tolerate the general malaise that is the Atlanta Falcons? This is a joke…until Junior and his cronies are ejected from their perch, I will not set foot inside the Home Depot Dome.

By Shell

November 20, 2006 01:05 AM | Link to this

In order to pass you need protection. You can put Matt Schaub in but you still have the same Oline. Geez do you people even watch the game? It all starts up front. How can five defenders be in the backfield before the QB even takes three steps? Put Schaub in and he wont be anymore accurate than Vick and he will have even less time to throw.

By Cap

November 20, 2006 01:08 AM | Link to this

WWhy does every body say Vick should be better? None of these QBs that have come into the league that people keep naming have better winning percentages than Vick. Phillip Rivers? Talk to me beyond three quarters of a season when he wins some playoff games. Drew Brees? I love his Billy Volek impression but Aaron Brooks remains as the only Saints QB to ever lead his team to a playoff victory and right now SuperBrees of 510 passing yard fame has just fallen behind Carolina for the division lead; a Carolina team that Atlanta beat. But I guess Vick didn’t have anything to do with that Falcon win. This is the same bull with Brooks last year. Funny how sitting him down didn’t help the Saints win. And now people are comparing QBs that have accomplished nothing to Vick and saying they are better. Yeah I’m real sure Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, and Philip Rivers would love to play with the Falcons’ offense instead of their own. Michael Jenkins is 6’4” yet the Falcons are running plays to throw jump balls to triple-covered Dwayne Blakely. Wasn’t he the same guy last week that got Vick’s run to first and goal at the six called back on a needless holding call? But of course, it’s all Vick’s fault for not making up for all these critical mistakes. Let’s trade him for Charlie Frye.

By Shell

November 20, 2006 01:16 AM | Link to this

Yeah lets trade Vick to say hmm i dunno, Chicago!! You think the Bears wouldn’t want Vick? Some of you people are idiots.

By Chris

November 20, 2006 01:17 AM | Link to this

There is a reason the Jets let Abraham fall into your lap. Has started 16 games once since being drafted in 2000. DE’s begin breaking down in their late 20’s. Couldn’t stay healthy in his prime, now you can witness his diminishing returns for years to come.

By Mister Falcon

November 20, 2006 01:18 AM | Link to this

I don’t understand some falcon fans. They’re just as bad as UGA fans. The team goes on one three game losing streak and all the sudden everyone wants to throw the baby out with the bathwater. “Fire Mora” “Fire Donatell” “Trade Vick” “Fire Knapp” Pathetic.

By Cap

November 20, 2006 01:21 AM | Link to this

Sorry Shell. These people don’t watch the game. They talk about unloading Vick on some stupid team. We’ll see who is stupid when the Falcons have Drew Bledsoe or Brad Johnson starting and the Falcons are back to their June Jones era ways. The only reason why Reeves got fired is because Vick had his leg broken by -surprise!- the Ravens. The front office was looking for an excuse to fire Reeves to put in their guy. Now “their guy” can’t coach Vick to success in his sixth year when Reeves did it in his second. I don’t think Vick is suffering from Alzheimers and he’s seemingly come back from the broken leg but you know, I think Schaub or somebody can implement Mora’s game plan much better.

By JUSTD

November 20, 2006 01:26 AM | Link to this

PLEASE EVERYONE…READ DEEZ NUTS POST* MAN YOU ARE CRAZY FUNNY AND TO THE POINT ABOUT OUR HEAD FALCON KING BLANK AND WHAT THIS TEAM NEEDS TO DO…AND THE COMMENTS ABOUT ABE WAS ON POINT AND HILARIOUS!! BY FAR THE BEST BLOG ON HERE AND NO DOUBT THE FUNNEST! NOW FOR MY BLOG….TODAY’S SCORES TELLS THIS MUCH ABOUT OUR LOST FALCONS….THE FALCONS LOST TO THE LIONS WHO LOST TO THE CARDINALS WHOM WE BEAT! THE FALCONS LOST TO THE BROWNS WHO LOST TO THE STEELERS WHOM WE BEAT…..AND TO TOP IT OFF….THE FALCONS LOST TO THE SAINTS WHO LOST TO THE BENGALS WHOM WE BEAT….ALL THIS EQUALS POOR GAME PLANNING AND COACHING! BLANK HAS WORKED HARD TO BUILD A FAN BASE HERE IN THIS CITY WHILE MORA & COMPANY TEARS IT DOWN!!!

By Chris

November 20, 2006 01:27 AM | Link to this

Just a thought.Fire Mora today and bring back good ole’ boy Jerry Glanville as an interim coach. He can have Vick watch films of Bo and Luke Duke running from Sheriff Coltrane to stress the need to “run more.”

By Cap

November 20, 2006 01:34 AM | Link to this

Mr. Falcon, Because they are not fans. I remember before Vick arrived that game where the Falcons had to sell their home game tickets in Tampa and the Buccaneers came up to the dome and it was like their home game. That weekend all there were were Bucs flags on I-75 and Tampa fans were squatting in Atlanta like General Sherman’s army. And these so called “fans” took it lying down like the new guy in prison. Fan bases like the Falcons tend to lose their teams to Los Angeles in the middle of the night. But if Falcs fans want to lay down money to see Vick’s back up stink up the dome, Blank is down for it as long as he makes a profit. I live in Miami, you don’t want to see your team go from Vick to nobodies just like the Fins didn’t want to see Marino give way to any quarterback whose last name started with an F. If you get rid of Vick you better be replacing him with Tim Tebow.

By K Mack

November 20, 2006 01:38 AM | Link to this

You know i think Matt Schaub should be ready to run this team by now!

By Cap

November 20, 2006 01:44 AM | Link to this

Have the Hawks ever recovered from shipping Dominique Wilkins out of town? Yeah, he wasn’t Jordan and didn’t play defense but he was all the Hawks had. Dominique was on the downside of his career and still took the CLIPPERS to the playoffs with Larry Brown at coach. At least Vick is still in his prime. Trust me Atlanta, if Vick ain’t out there it can get worse. Much worse.

By Johnny B. Goode

November 20, 2006 01:50 AM | Link to this

It’s depressing not only for Falcon Fans but also Falcons management. They’re hamstrung with Vick and his gargantuan contract, while silently bemoaning the fact that they can’t get Schaub in a the starting QB. We’re stuck with a great athlete playing the wrong position. Vick is easily te most overrated player in the NFL. It’s time to stop blaming Mora, Knapp, the receivers, and the hot dog vendors for Vick’s inability to progress as a QB. The league has figured him out and exposed his multitude of weaknesses. We’ve got a pro-bowl QB, but too bad he’s our second stringer.

By Cap

November 20, 2006 01:58 AM | Link to this

Yeah, and Robert Downey Jr. was a better QB than Johnny B. Goode.

By uno

November 20, 2006 01:59 AM | Link to this

Same old Vick. Maybe he’ll finally be held accountable when he sabotages coaching staff #3.

By Cap

November 20, 2006 02:02 AM | Link to this

Everybody’s right. Vick has been inconsitent for the Falcons. You know what has been consistent for the Falcons? poor O-line play and receiver drops. Hey, when is the last time somebody on defense has intercepted a pass?

By Cap

November 20, 2006 02:06 AM | Link to this

Yeah, Vick has won over 60% of his games as a starter and has the sixth highest winning percentage of any starting QB in the NFL. Way to sabotage the Falcons Mike! We know the Falcons were a lot better before you showed up.

By Cap

November 20, 2006 02:21 AM | Link to this

Does anyone understand why the anti-Vick comments are disturbing and embarrasing to the ATL? The owner has been in place for less than five years and the head coach with no prior head coaching experience has been in place even shorter than that but yet it’s Vick’s fault the team is doing bad? How long did it take Parcells to turn around the Giants and Ditka turn around the Bears? But yet Atlanta is willing to run its only redeemable star player out of town? Do you think free agents or top caliber coaches are going to want to come here if they see how the fans treat Vick? Vick has won more than LaDanian Tomlinson. Do you think that caliber of player would come here if he thought he would get booed off of the field?

By Jay

November 20, 2006 03:14 AM | Link to this

Im not playing the level of talent. I put the blame 100% on coaches. On an offensive coordinator that has managed to make his qb regress, his 1st-round pick receivers drop passes, his pro-bowl rb drop in yards per carry, his o-line get absolutely shredded week in and week out. Im blaming a defensive coordinator who has a track record of giving up big plays in the clutch (4 and 26 in the playoffs at green bay converted) who has a defense that goes from giving up 0 points a half to 24, who almost NEVER blitzes, whose defense is completely predictable (linebackers play zone and never blitz, safeties have to cover the side of the field that D Hall isnt on, d-line has to make pressure because Im sending no one). Im blaming a head coach who is completely oblivious to what is going on, who has lead a very talented roster to 13-13 in it’s last 26 games, who goes for it on fourth day at the other team’s 37 yard line IN THE FIRST QUARTER ON THE ROAD.

Im sick of this $hit. Its gone on way too much and I’ll lose all respect for Blank (who completely overreacted and fired Reeves) if he doesnt change it ASAP. If there is no change in manangement, I will not renew my tickets. I’ll let someone else waste their money on the most inconsistent team in the nfl, the worst coached team in the nfl. Fire someone NOW before the season truly is lost.

By Logical

November 20, 2006 03:21 AM | Link to this

“Vick, who was smothered on the play, said there was no backup plan in case the screen broke down”

AWFUL COACHING! ARE YOU KIDDING? “Alright guys, go out there and throw the screen” “

“what if its covered?”

look of confusion on Knapp’s face

That is just pathetic. And you wonder why we lose. One option or…who knows, good luck. Just embarrassing.

By dougnut

November 20, 2006 03:43 AM | Link to this

I believe in the Falcons. Always have. But I’ve always been an idiot and a loser, too.

By William Kitchens

November 20, 2006 03:51 AM | Link to this

Broken promises… Blank, Mora, Knapp, Donatell, Vick, McKay, Abraham, Hartwell, Price, Jenkins R. White, etc etc… The entire Falcons orgainization owes the entire city an appology for this mess. Forget the media, they still get their dime. The fans are the ones who are left out to dry. Everyone has a opionion on who is to blame. Head coach, OC, DC, hyped up QB, Injured million dollar players and an owner who cares more about being seen on national tv in expensive coats having game time discussions with his HC rather than hold him accountable for his actions after the game. Actions that are pathetic and and a joke.

Regardless of where you lay the blame folks, there isn’t a promise or expectation that has not been broken or destroyed by the play of the Falcons this season. Just about every theory published and/or discussed can now hold water.

I know you read this Mr. Blank… do something besides talk.

By Dano

November 20, 2006 04:49 AM | Link to this

JUST AWFUL!!!!! A HIGH SCHOOL COACH COULD CALL PLAYS BETTER THAN WHAT WE SAW. THIS WAS THE WORST DISPLAY OF INCOMPETENCE I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!! VICK WAS FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE!!!!

If there isn’t a change in the coaching staff, the Falcons will not be worth the aggravation of watching!!!

We deserve something better than this…. the team has a lot of talent, but the coaching is horrible. Mora hasn’t got a clue!! This game proved it beyond a shadow of doubt!!!!! I will be surprised if more isn’t said about this staff. Dunn hinted at it last week. I think the players ought to pull Blank aside and tell him like it is…….REAL FANS DESERVE A REAL TEAM!!!!!

Cap,

You need to check your stats on QB winning percentages…..

By Eric C.

November 20, 2006 05:07 AM | Link to this

I’ll tell you why the players were smiling…despite this horrible stretch, they have a chance to move into first place next week with a win over NO and a Panther loss. In terms of tie-breakers, the Browns/Ravens losses mean nothing, and they should be getting some players back. Look for the offense to have a big game next week.

By Dodeca

November 20, 2006 05:40 AM | Link to this

Is this the kind of crappy quartebacking Vick played at Virginia Tech I guess in college ball you can get away with this helter skelter lack of a passing offense—-but this is the NFL which stand for “NOT FOR LONG” and I really don’t believe we could even trade Vick now——Look at what he has done to us——He has giving the whole team herpes! We suc, so bad we are freaking lost out there. I don’t know what the hell we are. I think its all Vick’s fault—-he blows—-there is no way to build a team around him——he still carries the ball away from his body, highly erratic, unpredictable and just plain ole bad for any kind of game planning.

It was fun to watch the rest of the league trip trying to game plan him, but now the joke is on us and you Arthur

It isn’t coaching, it’s Vick. He will never be any more than he is. I know he has a heart and wants to win, but he doesn’t have the NFL skills to manage an offense because that takes a good arm, and patience—-he has neither. He has always been at the top of his class because he could run fast and throw hard, but to whom is he throwing at and is is in front of the reciever or low again?

Its so painful to watch this slowly unravel It’s like a sick child who pray will recover but slowy gets worse and it hurt to witness—-it hurts your soul so bad you want to lash out at coaches, owners, and the players. You don’t have the luxury of time in NFL, each week is a chance to recover and fans forget the last three weeks.

I think Mr. Blank has done an amazing job rebuilding the Falcons and rescuing them from the Smith family, but now is the time for him to act——DON’T WAIT TILL AFTER THE SEASON AND TORTURE US FOR ANOTHER SIX WEEKS!!!!* I know your ego is as big as the nose on your face——thats the whole reason you stand on the sidelines making stupid conversation with Mora——what could you possibly be saying of importance? Glamour puss——now act like the busineesman you are and bench Vick you turd.!!!!!!!

By jimmy boy

November 20, 2006 05:52 AM | Link to this

“Fight, fight, fight!!!

Bwahhh, hah, hah, hah….

By trottinghome

November 20, 2006 06:00 AM | Link to this

SAD, I THOUGHT I WOULD WAKE UP THIS MORNING AND KNAPP WOULD BE FIRED.

By Brandyman

November 20, 2006 06:27 AM | Link to this

I think Michael Vick’s true personality was exposed when he stated in an interview after the game “I can’t do everything” For some reason he thinks he is bigger than the team. Gee, I wonder why?? When you have the owner in your back pocket, I guess you can develop feelings of grandour. Vick doesn’t have the poise, intelligence or skills to be an NFL quarterback. I’ll say it again, convert him to wideout and put in the only quarterback we have, who is a man named Schaub.

By Steve

November 20, 2006 06:38 AM | Link to this

It’s the Falcons!!! Same Ol’ crap since their beginning. How can anyone be upset?

By Deez Nuts

November 20, 2006 06:53 AM | Link to this

well, most of us on here can not agree about a single thing BUT we sure as hell can fight like hell with one another. Little Jimbo must love us. I can hear him now reading us fighting with each other and screaming FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

By realrealist

November 20, 2006 06:56 AM | Link to this

I could only read several of these whiny posts (skipping through, I found I didn’t have to rad them all - they’re all the same) - FIRE THE COACH! Dang, you people can’t see the problem on the O side is Vick, and perhaps the tiny little guy trying to do a big guy’s work? On the D side, injuries have really mattered most. But the offense would be better without the dunbest QB in the league. Audibles? WHen he can’t read the defense (or the playbook!)? We’ll always be .500 with M Vick at the helm. Draft an intellegent QB who can read, and learn, the plays, doesn’t just heave the ball 95mph on every throw and who can find a secondary receiver when in trouble and not depend on his athletecism and we’ll be better for it. I bet some dumb owner out there would trade 2-3 O or D linemen for Vick. Take the deaql, Arthur - while he’s still got some marginal value to someone.

By senojh

November 20, 2006 06:58 AM | Link to this

IS GREG KNAPP THE TWIN BROTHER OF DAN HENNING?

THIS OFFENSE IS A FAILURE JUST AS DAN HENNING’S OFFENSE WAS!!!!

By raven fan

November 20, 2006 07:16 AM | Link to this

Ok, Falcon fans, I’ll admit it…. you can blame me. I’m the one that’s been keeping Vick down!

Signed - “The Man”

By Peter

November 20, 2006 07:20 AM | Link to this

VICk no QB, Mora no HAED coach……..I am a happy man NOT having purchased my season tickets…………….glad someone else did, I had a productive day at my house, watched most of the game, but at the end when it ALWAYS gets UGLY for the Falcons, it was more fun getting things accomplished here than sitting watching the UGLY stuff happen YET AGAIN!

By 49er Fan

November 20, 2006 07:27 AM | Link to this

I watched that game yesterday and I can’t believe you people are blaming VIck for getting sacked. Vick has pressure in his face the entire game and in the second half the Ravens made ajustments and the Falcons did not.

With all those blitzes where were the audibles? Do the Falcons not have them!!!!!!!!!!

Vick ran for his life the entire 2nd half and took some very hard shots.

The special teams lost that game!

By carman563

November 20, 2006 07:30 AM | Link to this

CLEAN HOUSE ! FIRE EM ALL !!!

By Barry

November 20, 2006 07:30 AM | Link to this

Hey Y’all:

Here we go again with this negative local sports writer, Schulz, talking about the Falcons are finished and the season isn’t over yet. There are many teams with the same record as the Falcons and we are in the hunt only 1 game behind the conference leader. And this knucklehead starts hollering in the newspaper “The Falcons are Finish!” Get these negative local sportswriters out of our city. They think that writing negative about local sports after losews generate friends. No!!! They generate enemies and I am becoming on of the enemies of the AJC local sports writing crew. What I saw from the Falcxons yesterday were second string players playing their butts off. Many played on defense and then played special teams, exhausting themselves to were it hurt our kick off and punt coverage. These guys played tough and hard. I applaud them for that. With all the injuries the Falcons have what do you expect. But they are still in the hunt. And when some of the walking wounded return I am confident, in fact more than confident, we will be in the playoff. There is a lot of heart on that Falcon team. And they will be even stronger when the other players come back. So negative local sports writer Schultz, the falcons season is not finished. You are finished with all this poor writing about our local team Find yourself another city to write for. And if your are writing for them like your are writing for Atlanta, you won’t last long their either!!

You’re Finished!!!!! Get the H-ll Out of Town!!!!!

SSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! This is between Shultz and us Falcon Fans. Tell Everybody!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Tater

November 20, 2006 07:32 AM | Link to this

If you think the City of Atlanta is alone in giving up on Vick, guess again. The advertisers gave up on him long ago(when was the last time you saw the Vick experience commercial or any other with Vick?). The major networks don’t want him in their primetime slots. The national media considers him an average quarterback and spends less time talking about him(Bradshaw said yesterday that Vick is way too inconsistent for his liking). The NFL players frequently choose Vick as the most overrated player in their anonymous players surveys.

The problems here won’t end when Knapp then Mora are gone. Until Vick finds his way out, we are looking at more of the same.

By John

November 20, 2006 07:41 AM | Link to this

Vick made a comment that he wished he had people surround like the Colts. Wrong. You have to have knowledge to run their offenses. I know sure if Vick would make a good running back. Oakland should get Vick and TO along with Moss it would be a traveling road show to watch these egos. Wake Mr. Blank. How long will it take Vick to get it. Never!

By Glenn Henderson

November 20, 2006 07:42 AM | Link to this

We are right where we always were and should be in Losersville,Chokestown,Braves,Falcons,Thrashers and the Hawks,1995 will probably be our only championship thanks to Cleveland!

By Tommy

November 20, 2006 07:52 AM | Link to this

The saddest part about yesterday’s game is that the defense, despite half of the starters being out, played well enough to put the team in a position to win going into the fourth quarter.

Offensive playcalling is the problem with this team. 3rd and Goal on the 3, with the fastest backfield in the NFL, and they call a corner fade jump, and it doesn’t even go to Crumpler??? At least try ONE toss sweep with dunn or norwood to the pylon. C’mon, guys.

The second problem is the insane predictability of the offense. I’m no expert, but for the love of God even I can call a play before the snap just by seeing the formation. The Falcons telegraph their plays. They have lots of different formations but only run 2 or 3 plays out of each. Defenses know what is coming before Vick even gets the ball. Shotgun with Dunn set to the right of Vick?? Option run, every single time.

I’m not the type to call for coaching changes—I believe in the end it’s almost always about talent—but in this case, Knapp needs to be replaced. A West Coast passing attack does NOT work with a big running game. Bill Walsh invented the West Coast short-pass system because his running game was weak and he used 4-6 yard passes because he couldn’t get 4-6 yard runs on a consistent basis. When you have a strong running game you compliment it with a deep passing attack. It keeps teams from stuffing 8 or 9 in the box, like the Ravens did all day.

Ask yourself—how many games in the mora-knapp era have there been where the falcons had 4 or 5 plays for over 30 yards?? With the speed this team has, and vick’s arm strength, that’s criminal.

And for you clowns saying ‘put in Schaub’, with that injured O-line in front of him, he’d last until about midway through the second quarter. Funny how here in Atlanta something else is always better than what we’ve got.

By Playoffs?!?!?!?!

November 20, 2006 07:52 AM | Link to this

FIRE JIM MORA.COM - SOMEONE START IT!!!

By Hasavior

November 20, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

I am hoping to find some point in time when everyone, or most of us fan bloggers stop blaming Mike Vike for everything that happends to the falcons. Any quarterback with that type of pass coverage will have sacks like that. Elway went thru it, bradshaw went thru it, rothlesburger went thru it all the prominent Qb went thru it. so why in the heck the criticizim stems with vike on the top of the totem pole. Every Qb has their flaws, but its the offensive scheme that protects those flaws and expose the strengths. Its the offensive scheme and play calling that keep Vick from being consistent, not just him, the scheme, the talent of the recievers. Get a grip!

By jerry

November 20, 2006 08:06 AM | Link to this

Mr. Blank: You asked”is the train headed in the right direction”? It is headed in reverse. You said the team was doing what you wanted it to do”having the right attitude and playing hard”. What about winning? You said the right people were on board to fix the problem so I guess the fans are stuck with the status quo, huh?

By Go Falcs!

November 20, 2006 08:17 AM | Link to this

Dog Fight 32 Smash on 3. Break! I know the Madden Challenge Champ can call a better game than our ‘coaches.’

By whodunit?

November 20, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

let me get this straight: it’s mora’s fault? it’s knapp’s fault? it’s dunn’s fault? it’s arthur’s fault for firing reeves? it was peerless’ fault? it is lelie’s fault, jenkins’ fault, and white’s fault but it is not okay to at least question somewhat whether it is MV7’s fault? get real people. i love vick and fully appreciate everything he has done for this team with wins and excitement and sold out stadiums and everything including the conference championship appearance but, come on already, you can keep saying that i am only one man and i can not do everything and repeatedly imply that it is everyone else’s fault but your own. at some point, you have to look at the man in the mirror and realize that you just ain’t getting it done. smoltz, maddux, and glavine never blamed mazzone if they had a bad stretch. maddux did blame javy lopez sometimes a little too much but you get the poit. at some point, talent needs to shine through even with all the muddy waters surrounding you. but i have never in my life seen an NFl QB have game after game where he barely gets 100 yards passing. that is college and high school crap already. it is ridiculous. at some point stop blaming everyone else. every sport is different but iverson, kobe, mcgrady, et al. all have their talent shine through when their team is down. after the titans started falling down over the last five years, mcnair singlehandedly was dragging that team back into games just and keeping them around and his talent shone through despite the fact that all of the talent around him was disappearing around him

By Blaney

November 20, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

Too many unchecked egos at the top in this organization: Vick, Mora, and last, but not least, Blank. Vick has a chance for salvation, but only if Mora is sacked in favor of a coaching staff who can teach more than Xs and Os, and more importantly, if Arthur wakes up and realizes he is not in the retail business any longer.

By JAMIE

November 20, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

The biggest problem that I see with the Falcons is their refusal to give Matt Schaub a chance to play. In the past when given the opportunity he has moved the offense better than Vick. The problem with the defense is that the offense cannot sustain drives and the special teams donnot cover well which consistently puts too much pressure on the defense. The Falcons need to swallow their pride-admit that Vick will never be a consistent NFL quarterback and give Schaub a chance. All you have to do is look at some of the successful young quarterbacks in the league to know that it does not take five years to develop consistentcy. What you are getting from Mike Vick right now is all you are ever going to get.

By harry o'sullivan, Baltimore

November 20, 2006 08:28 AM | Link to this

writing from Baltimore.. we were scared to death that Vick would run all over the Ravens.. we are all surprised at the outcome 24-10… our Special teams won the game for us..and jamal lewis woke up today. harry o in Baltimore

By Call me Earl

November 20, 2006 08:29 AM | Link to this

Mr.Schultz Can someone answer this question?

Where’s Jimmy Williams? What’s the insider story on that situation?

By kc

November 20, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

It would be nice if Blank actually read this stuff! I grew up in a family that held season tickets since their first season; I would love to pull for anyone else but pulling for the Falcons have like a Skinnerian response…

Okay, so we keep hearing about the problems on defense… we’re thin, players hurt, etc… so why does the offense stink so bad? From what I see the Defense is still doing its part, rather its the offense that is so, well, offensive. Admittedly, I don’t think Vick is the right quarterback. I don’t what kind of an offense we run: is it an option, West Coast, or something that Mora schemed up in his books? Almost makes you wish that the guy before Mora was still here, huh?

The fact that Blank is the owner automatically gives him the ability to put his touch on everything in the organization. However, a good business man knows when to let the experts do their job, and that business is business (not a call from the heart). I am referring to Arthur hiring Mora instead of letting McKay do his job. What? Okay, so I don’t like Mora either - the man just bothers me, I have no rational explanation… sorry.

By Hasavior

November 20, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

Whodunit? its way yo convienient to blame Vick on every loss the Falcons have. its dissmisive and its bullcrap. Look at what you just said. I will assume you watched the game. Football works in intricate parts as a cohesive group. Special teams won that game for the ravens, just as our special teams and turnovers gives the falcons momentum to score. When your nose guard gets a sack and penetrates the backfield on pass and run passess, something is wrong with that offensive scheme in terms of blocking and zone protection. That also is a contribution to mike vick error. Vick never calls out players saying its their fault. More than 90% of the time he says he is responsible. Thats ownership of is responsiblility because of the position he plays, yet us as fans, analysts, and bloggers must see in between the lines and what kills their momentum day in and out. he made several plays in that game to keep drives alive, but got sacked on each drive within the 40. It was not coverage sacks, they were pocket sacks and blitzs.

By Roydawg

November 20, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

All I know is that when Reeves was here, Vick looked like the second coming. Reeves is fired, and Vick can’t even come close to putting up similar numbers. This offense is pretty much unwatchable. I don’t care if Vick, Schaub, Steve Young, or Joe Montana himself is back there, it won’t matter with Knapp doing the honors. Blank needs to gut this coaching staff, and the sooner the better.

By The Essence of Manhood

November 20, 2006 08:41 AM | Link to this

I have a question for the pathetic jock sniffers who worship at Vick’s throne:

Why do you give your savior ALL of the credit when the team wins, but NONE of the blame when the team loses?

According to you clowns, Vick is undefeated as a starting QB. Whenever the team loses, it’s ALWAYS the fault of somebody else, i.e., the coaches, the O-line, the receivers, the defense, the special teams, Mark Fuhrman, etc., etc., etc.

Bonus question:

What is your savior’s record in his last 13 games?

Answer: 5-8.

Of course, fans in the ATL value style over substance, so they’ll continue to pack the Ga. Dome to watch the most over-hyped player in the history of the NFL.

Compared to Vick, ‘Nique was Bill Russell.

By Jim Feely

November 20, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

when are you and others going to admit that Vick, Knapp and Mora are the porblems. The offensive co-ordinato is a joke, but then again, look who he works for and has to work with(Vick). It’s past the point where this team has to admit that Matt is the QB of the future if this club is to compete. If Vick is tradeable, now is the time to get rid of him. As I have sadi before, he is short, dumb and will never be ble to read defenses. Can him. Blank is a businessman, and there is little dooubt Mora will survive, but he may keep Vick acting as a shill for on more seson of ripping the fans off. Injuries didn’t hurt yesterday’s loss, stupidity and a grossly overrated QB did.

By Russ Brock

November 20, 2006 08:43 AM | Link to this

Jim Mora, Sr. said Vick was a “coach-killer.” Oh, much more than that. He’s a team-killer. A fan base killer. With the picks the Falcons traded for the right to pick Vick, SD got Tim Dwight and drafted Drew Brees and LT! My stomach just turned. Mora will never be a successful head coach and Vick will never be a successful NFL quarterback. I don’t even think he could make it at any other position. He is in the hip-hop, gangsta rap, garbage into his head via headphones lifestyle which means all that will come out of his head and mouth is just more gangsta garbage and rotten attitude. Fire Mora and his pitiful staff. Trade Vick IF anybody will give anything for him and give us a fresh start and reason to look forward to Sundays in the fall again.

By Edizzel

November 20, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

NOTE TO THE FALCONS: You Better not go up on the 2007 Season Ticket prices!!

By ohno

November 20, 2006 08:47 AM | Link to this

Said Vick: “That’s it. Throw it away. I had a guy a foot away from me. I can’t do everything.”

How about just do a few things right consistently? Is that too much to ask?

By raven fan

November 20, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

Vick’s “Leon” moment?

Does anyone remember the commercials starring the egotistic football player, “Leon”? In one commercial, a reporter asks Leon whether he felt, in any way responsible for the teams loss. When Leon answered no, the reporter, pointed out that Leon fumbled five times! Leon then said that those fumbles wouldn’t have been a problem if his teamates would fall on the ball! Then in the classic “Leon” line he closes:

“Leon can’t do everything!”

Mike Vick IS Leon! That’s Funny!!!!

By kc

November 20, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

Blank needs to wake up and smell the losses… The ultimately truth about putting butts in the seats is simple: win! Does it really matter who is in the back field at QB? Just win!

Come on! We would not be having the debate if Vick was winning games for us instead of single handedly (say it with me FUMBLES) costing the team games. Fans don’t care if the QB is black, white, yellow, blue, or orange -just go out there and win games!!!! If they benched Vick and put Schaub - or anyone else - and they started winning there would be NO controversy.

There will be a Crossroads at the end of this season. For once in the franchise’s history I hope the owner lets the professionals drive.

By Fan83

November 20, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

I am very tired of the way we perform Sunday2Sunday. I have had enough. We look like a little league team. The problem is the team as a whole. Jim Mora we love u but it is time to go. Please take serval people along with u. Sleeping Beauty and Don’t Tell. Don’t forget Vapor Rub!(Knapp, Donatell&Vick) We have enjoyed having you here but please walk away quickly, this is not for u. We have a job posting on the AJC for a qualified and dedicated head coach. When you take the position please bring an aggresive stlye of play with you.. Love The Atlanta Fans! We are ready for some serious FOOTBALL!

By Rex

November 20, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Fellows. Its no shame in getting brutalized by the Ravens yesterday. After all, in about 10 weeks Billick will be hoisting the Lombardi Trophy for the second time. Billick = NFL Coach of the Year

By Jerry L

November 20, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Lynne, stick to football. I know you like vick, but it has nothing to do with his ability. Besides running the football, what does he do well. The blog awaits your reply.

By Jerry L

November 20, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

The Falcons have way too many problems to blame any one player, the defense or the offense. Looks like a ship without a rudder.

By Jeff

November 20, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

The solution to this mess seems so hard to figure out, yet it is simplistic in its nature. Schaub should be resigned and made the starting QB. This will allow Knapp to stop fretting over designing things for Vick, which will actually improve the offense. Next, this thing with the smaller lines, both offensive and defensive, has got to stop. Grady Jackson cannot do it all. I hate to hang it on Vick because it is not all his fault, but he is not the pro quarterback that will lead to the super bowl.

By THE DAN

November 20, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

ALL OF YOU PEOPLE CALLING FOR SCHAUB ARE THE SAME ONES THAT CALLED FOR DOUG JOHNSON,{MAYBE YOU FORGOT} THE PROBLEM IS COACHING AND A TEAM THAT’S TO SMALL TO SURVIVE 4 QUARTERS OF PLAY.IF ANY OF YOU DUMMIES EVER SEE A GAME IN PERSON,JUST LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THE TEAMS WE COMPETE AGAINST.NO ONE COULD BE SUCCESSFULL BEHIND THAT O LINE.

By jpop379

November 20, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

Plain & simple we where out coached on Sunday. The Ravens at times only used (1) Defensive lineman & 5-6 Linebackers to shut Vick down. Too many hurries, sacks and no game plan on offense to counter attack the Ravens schemes.

At the start of the year I predicted a 4-12 season. I’m not going to be too far off. If they keep playing this way they have maybe (1) more win left washington or Philadelphia

Now what Mr. Blank? You have a coach & GM that got every player they requested in the off-season, most are on IR out or questionable. What is with the Brady Smith Treatment of Ed Hartwell S-canning him to dump his salary at the end of the season so insurance will pony up! (2) years in a row you sacrifice a season for $$$ Shame…

I’m sick of the “less is Mora” era. Send him & Gregg Knapp packing. Jim Mora Sr’s coments about Vick “being a coach killer” is simple foreshadowing by a father trying to protect his sons reputation as a coach.

Jimmy look into the University of Washington Job you always wanted. Mr. Blank how about begging Rich Beemer to take oveer this sorry excuse for a team.

By Jeff

November 20, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

By the way, we have a more pressing problem. The Thrashers are on a losing streak.

By Rex

November 20, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

Did it ever occur to any of you that Vick is simply to stupid to be an NFL QB ? I mean, really, he played in a dumbed down, Mickey Mouse, offense at VA. Tech, and now he is playing in the most simplistic offense in the NFL. Vick just might be a moron.

By jpop379

November 20, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

I meant VT coach Frank Beamer…not the PGA professional :)

By Fredrick

November 20, 2006 09:39 AM | Link to this

This idiocy every time the falcons lose is beginning to sicken me to death. MV7 ended the career of a coach. What a moronic statement from Mora snr. He had a great passer in Peyton, and still lost terribly in Indy. So the argument that u need a great passer to win games is not always true. This is a team game. It takes each and every player on defense and offense to win games. Don’t blame vick 4 every falcons loss, when it is not his fault. Look at the stats. The kid was 11-19. He was 12-14 in the first quarter. He is not responsible for being sacked 5 times. Vick made Reeves. What happened the season vick was injured? The falcons were pathetic, and the when he came back they were great. To all of you vick haters, mike vick the guy who supposedly can’t pass turn VT into a football powerhouse during his two yrs.He didn’t end the career of Frank Beamer, did he? Of course not. So this diatribe abt. him ruining the careers of coaches is so moronic that if was close to Fran Charles and Mora snr. i wouldn’t beaten the s** out of both of them. This Falcons team was the laughing stock of the NFL b4 vick came.He has taken this team to greater heights since his arrival. Is he inconsistent sometimes? Absolutely. Just like every NFL qb. he is not going to win every game, nor is he going to be perfect every game. I will however take him over every qb. except Mcnabb in the NFL. What players does vick have on offense who are great? Dunn and crumpler. That is it. Peyton, Brady, Hasselbeck, and others have great players at almost every offense position. Vick has won games with average players, and he will continue to win games, and take this team to the Super bowl in spite of all the nonsense from all of u moronic fans, and the talking heads on TV who don’t know nothing. They and some of u vick haters predicted the falcons will not be good this season so why all the hate all of a sudden. As i have predicted on this blog b4, all of u vick bashers will eat your words, and bow to the king when it is all said and done. Do you all remember Mcnabb being criticised with the same venom in philly? I remember. We have the same thing here. Was peyton criticised with the same intensity when he was at Tenn, and didn’t win anything? No. To all of u falcons fans who incessantly cricise vick every day: Do you want peyton’s stats w/o a superbowl? or Vick’s stats with 2 or 3 superbowls when he is finished? Look at peyton’s career in college( after 4 yrs no tangible wins,) and vick’s(2 yrs: a national championship game appearance, a big east title, and a gator bowl appearance). That kid is a winner.So to the true fans out there stay with this team to the end, and u will never regret it. This team led by vick is going to bring you all a superbowl this year. They will win their remaining 5 games, their division, the NFC, and the superbowl. Chicago is overrated, the panthers are a fraud, the cowboys are overrated, the seahawks are ok, and the Giants are depleted by injuries. The Falcons are going to go on a run. As i stated earlier do y’all remember Mcnabb?

By Randy

November 20, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

Throw in the towel on the rest of the season and the Falcons might get a chance to draft Calvin Johnson.

By Ed

November 20, 2006 09:45 AM | Link to this

I say it every week and I’ll say it again. We can sit here talking about how to improve, but I think this coaching staff has an anchor around it’s neck and it’s Vick. He can’t learn an offense and can’t read defenses or a blitz scheme. They can’t add to the offense because they have players incapable of learning and growing in football. Time will tell that Mr. Vick isn’t a quarterback. It will take him staying here and Falcons fans watching a sand lot offense for five more years, or him going somewhere else and delivering the same thing he did here, inconsistency. I’m not a Vick hater, just a lover of real football. What the Falcons play on offense isn’t real football, and I think our coaches are limited by their talent.

By Rex

November 20, 2006 09:46 AM | Link to this

Fredrick just might be dumber than Vick

By Rex

November 20, 2006 09:47 AM | Link to this

BILLICK = NFL COACK OF THE YEAR RAVENS = 2 TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPS

By Edgar

November 20, 2006 09:49 AM | Link to this

Now the speculation begins. The watch is on. The team is on life support. That’s just three off the top of my head. The only thing I’m wondering is whether the press conference is going to be called on the 1st or 2nd of January. The 3 year contract was a death sentence after all. I hate to see Mora go.

By FIRE OVERRATED McCKAY

November 20, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

THE GM BUILT THIS DISASTER FROM TRADES, COACHES AND FIRST ROUND BUST. FIRE HIS A*! THE SECONDARY, OFFENSIVE LINE COACHES (INCLUDING THE SO CALLED GURU) AND THE RECIEVER COACH SHOULD ALL BE BOUNCED WITH THE QUICKNESS. NOT TO SPARE MORA OR DONNATEL, BUT THE OTHER ASSISTANT COACHES ARE NOT EFFECTIVE AND SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THE LEAGUE. YES VICK FUMBLES AT TIMES WITHOUT NEEDED REPERCUSSIONS FOR HIM, BUT HIS RECIEVERS WOULD NOT MAKE ANY OTHER TEAMS ROSTERS SO SHUT UP ABOUT VICK! EVEN CRUMPLER IS SUSPECT NOW! KNAPP IS LESS AT FAULT THAN THE O-LINE PHILOSPHY AND THE OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF DROPPED PASSES AT CRITICAL TIMES.

By Talons of Fire

November 20, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

Even injured on the bench’ some of these myopic cretins would blame Vick for the lost. The fact is, we have no O-Line and the kick off coverage was a disaster. The wide receivers aren’t even mediocre by NFL standards. Yes, Vick has his down side, but the coaches do not put him in a situation to win. The idiots that are questioning Vick’s intelligence and saying he’s a thug, gangster and a rapper are probably the same ones riding around with rebel fl on their trucks and trailers, chewing tobacco juice on their shirts and pictures of hitler and the klan posted on their bedroom and living room walls. The laughable part is their, supposedly, superior intelligence is not making the kind of money for them that Vick’s, supposedly, inferior intelligence is making for him. Now tell me, who’s the real idiot here????? With one game back in the division, the Falcons still have a chance to make the playoffs. There is no dominant team in the NFC except maybe the Bears. For those who want to give up on the team, GOOD RIDDANCE! GO FALCONS!!!!

By Charles

November 20, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

All those people who threw Vick’s horrible passing stats out the window and said that they don’t matter because he wins games and that is the only stat that matters…well what excuse do you have for Mike Vick now? Now he isn’t winning and he is still making bad decisions and bad passes. Wake up people Vick is in his 6th year as an NFL QB and he still makes rookie mistakes!!! Vick’s game hasn’t matured one bit. As long as he is the QB of this team the Falcons will be perennial losers. Vick will be the QB of this team for a long time too because Blank is all about the $$$$ and as long as Vick is the QB people will continue to be duped into buying seasons tickets.

At the end of the game we see the same old LOSER Falcons only it’s worse than the bad old days because now we have this false expectation that the Falcons can win. The Falcons are an embarrassment to the city. They SUCK!

Thank GOD Blank didn’t buy the Braves he would of just screwed them up too.

By lionel

November 20, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

The blogger that mentioned Vick’s performance at Virginia Tech is right on. I watched Vick there also and assure you that he was a very overated player; the competition that VT faced in those 2 years wasn’t exactly top of the line. No doubt Vick was faster than most college quarterbacks but there were many abilities lacking, especially in the art of passing the football. San Diego evidently noticed all of this when the draft presented itself. BUT the falcons were duped! The falcons can’t unload him now, we are stuck with him so somehow you have to make it work. Let him run or let him play defense but the big bucks are being paid so you’ve got to get some work out of him. The Chicago Bears game last year showed most of us all we needed to know about Vick and his desire to win; that was an embarrassment to the falcons and to the NFL. Don’t give up on the falcons, they are still in this thing and if Arthur Blank is willing to make some changes soon, we still have a chance. Not sure if Schaub is the answer but there is nothing to lose because we are already losing.

By jc

November 20, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Here we are again. Vick didn’t necessarily lose this game, he just didn’t do anything to win it. Bad, hard to catch passes and a lack of understanding when it comes to reading defenses and changing plays at the line. Our defense essentially was exhausted or gave up by the end of the third quarter but with the offense doing nothing and our special teams giving up 65yd punt returns, who can blame them? Granted the Ravens are an above average team, but that really makes the Falcons average, or frankly a lot worse. Put a fork in this season. Put a fork in Vick, and definitely put a fork in Mora and his cheerleading squad on the sidelines.

By Jerry L

November 20, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Fix the Falcons: Hire Lovie away from Chicago, which can’t be done so ask Lovie who to hire. Draft Troy Smith. We should be able to do that with the record we will have at the end of the season. If any team is ahead of us in the draft, give them Vick, if not put Vick at wide-out. If he can catch the ball with his small hands, he will be great there. Get a big offensive line. The rest of the defense can be fast. Get someone to help Hall in the secondary. Get Hall to play football and not trash talk. I think we may be alright at running back. I think Falcon fans of all races could live with this.

By cliff w

November 20, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

this is the most ungrateful city i have ever seen in my life. u people act as if the falcons have been winners for 22yrs straight. the fact of the matter is we have some talent on both sides of the ball but no one to coach it. it has been stated in an interview with inside the nfl that our QB isn’t being taught to audible. how can you do something you are not being instructed to do. COACHING!!!!! why can’t we pressure anybody. when opposing qb see us coming they know there passing stats are going up by 72%. COACHING!!!!

By jc

November 20, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

Can you defend Vick’s second half performance? Can you? Are you his mother, because that was a performance only a mother could love.

By BT

November 20, 2006 10:00 AM | Link to this

Rollover 2007, coming to a dome near you.

By Charles

November 20, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

Frederick,

You are some kind of idiot. You said that the only QB you would take over Vick is McNabb…are you kidding me. I like McNabb (a lot more than I like Vick) but I would take Brady, Manning, Hasselbeck, Palmer and Brees over Vick. All of those QB’s have something Vick doesn’t, the ability to read a defense. Vick is never going to get “it.” Some people in this world just don’t get “it” and Vick is one of them. Obviously, Frederick, you don’t get “it” either.

Only an Atlanta fan would make a statement like “the only QB I would take over Vick is McNabb.” Two of the best QB’s to ever play the game are in their prime right now and you would take Vick over them…my friend you are a certified IDIOT.

By Christopher

November 20, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

It’s been five years, and Vick hasn’t done anything. I like the guy, but honestly Mr. Blank, if your starter ain’t getting it done, put in someone who will. You’ve got two excellent QBs sitting on your bench…use em!

By chuck

November 20, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

Mr.Blank: I hope you read these blogs to get a clear sense of how your customers feel. I think that you have tried your best to put a quality product on the field. I also assume that you are more knowledgeable about this business than when you first took over the team. In fact, you are the main reason that I still have hope for the future. I beleive that you will make the hard decisions that will be necessary to right the ship. I have been a strong supporter of Mora and Vick since the beginning, but at this point I just don’t feel it’s working. Your fan base simply won’t tolerate a “stay the course” policy. Hard decision #1: The coaching staff must be held accountable. Hard decision #2: Is Vick the quarterback that can take us to the Super Bowl? I never thought I would give up on Vick - but I am extremely close to that point. I wish someone who is an expert on contracts and the salary cap could explain what the options and ramifications are if we decided let Vick go (or possibly trade him if there were any takers). I know the huge bonus money has to be paid and I guess it has been spread over the ten year contract period. So if we released Vick does the rest of the bonus money count towards the salary cap next year? How long would it take for us to dig out of this cap mess? At least his regular salary is not guaranteed, but obviously it’s the bonus money that’s the big problem.

By Roger Beaver

November 20, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

Has anyone listened to Vick during his interviews? Can he not put enough sentences together to at least sound reasonably intelligent?

One can infer from how he communicates, that while rich with his “bling bling”, that his ability to communicate seems to lead us to believe that he can’t assimilate the nuances and schemes game execution, in being a Professional QB in this league with any degree of success…Ron Mexico, lip smacking Vick neds to move on…

By Ed

November 20, 2006 10:13 AM | Link to this

All the other folks who think Vick will never be an NFL quarterback. Just print this blog and hang on to it for about 2-3 years. All these Vick protectors will be eating their words as the Falcons either don’t go to the playoffs, or get kicked out in a road game in the first round. He will never get it, and you can’t convince these people otherwise. ONLY TIME will show who is right. I’m giving away the rest of my season tickets and selling them next year. I’ll start going again when we put an NFL offense, with an NFL quarterback on the field. Because right now my friends 12 year old football team has a better throwing quarterback than the Falcons.

By Rex

November 20, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

VICK = LAZY SAMBO

By jrobinette

November 20, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

I’m a Ravens fan. That’s the second time that I’ve see the Falcons this year. What’s wrong with the play calling? Vick is the best player in the NFL and the Falcons have built their offense around him. Why don’t they call plays to use his natural ability? Just let him be him. I hope the Falcons get back on track and derail the Panthers.

By Donny

November 20, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

You people are not loyal Falcons supporters.

We will make the playoffs.

Stay strong.

By b man

November 20, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

Listen folks, the Falcons problems can’t be pinned solely on only one person or reason. With this in mind, here’s a few questions for the team:

Questions for the Offense 1)Has Vick done the necessary work to gain a better ability to read defenses? 2)Is the current offensive scheme best fit for Vick? 3)Is Vick getting adequate protection from the O Line? 4)Are the WR’s getting open by running crisp routes & catching the ball even if the pass isn’t perfect? 5)Why has the offense put less focus on the running game, which puts more pressure on Vick? 6)If Vick can’t audible at the line, why?

Questions for the Defense 1)Granted injuries have taken their toll but this isn’t an excuse, why aren’t the blitz packages getting pressure on the QB? 2)I know the Falcon’s defense is built around speed but why has size been neglected? (Grady Jackson has helped but he can’t do it all by himself) 3)Why do the CB’s give so much cushion & why continue to play soft zone? (I understand if the opposing QB isn’t getting pressured there’s only so long a CB can hold coverage but the soft zone has to go)

This season hurts b/c the Falcon’s have plenty of talent on both sides of the ball. However, talent doesn’t always translate to success, this is where coaching needs to be held accountable: coaching staffs need to put proper schemes in place that utilize the team’s strengths….and I don’t think this has been done!!

One more thing…towards the end of the Giants & Ravens games, it seemed the Falcon’s gave up…as a coach, you can never, Never, NEVER let this happen!!! That tells me a coach has lost control of the team.

I still think the Falcon’s can be a good team…they just need to hold players/coaches accountable and work on weak areas.

GOOOO Falcons

By Bubba Collins

November 20, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

If Mora is a head football coach, he would have gotten some help with assistant coaches last year. He can’t get it done. Vick should be playing better or more consistent. Why can’t the coaches get it out of him. Are they scared ofhim, since he is the man in Atlanta?

By gizmox

November 20, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

What a depressing team! The falcons should be selling anti-depressive medication at concessions. Arthur and Rich, admit you made a mistake and change the coaching staff. Give us something to look forward to. I hope you are not thinking of raising ticket prices again for next year. Jimmy Johnson, Mike Martz and others are awaiting your call. The real savior of this team would be Tony Dungy. Come off the hip and try to persuade him. Give us some hope for next year.

By Charles

November 20, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

Donny,

You need to take off those rose colored glasses. The Falcons look worse every week. With all the injuries on defense you would think the Falcons would be getting blown out, but it’s not the defense it’s the offense. Vick is just plain bad and a bad QB with no supporting cast is…well it is what we see on the field every Sunday, GARBAGE!

The Falcons SUCK. Every aspect of this team SUCKS. The Falcons lost to two of the worst two teams in the NFL and you think they are going to make the playoff’s? Damn son, you are an f’n idiot.

By jean

November 20, 2006 10:28 AM | Link to this

I posted on the bird babe blog but I’ll post again until the fans are heard!! This teams does not believe in themselves, that is readily apparent. All teams have injuries, so we can’t use that as an excuse, except maybe for the defense. But the offense is just horrendous. Players aren’t excecuting, the line isn’t blocking worth a damn & the playcalling is consistently atrocious. Why are we calling plays for our 3rd string tight end in the endzone?? Does that make ANY sense at all?? No one component is all to blame but a change has to be made. It’s not going to involve Vick who we’ve made too big an investment in, so the so-called “coordinator” must go!! We’ve drafted enough 1st round receivers & have some talented runners so the pieces are in place. The o-line should be blown apart & rebuilt next offseason. Time to admit this zone scheme sucks & our franchnise player is running for his life. Nobody would have success behind that line. But when we do have opportunities, they are being wasted knucklehead playcalling compounded by poor execution! I don’t want to hear any more of Jimmy’s excuses, I don’t expect him to throw players under the buss to the media, what I expect is being told this is unnaceptable & changes will be made. Somebody needs to get in Vick & the offense’s face & say wake up!! Mr. Blank, you are alienating the fan base. Soon, the dome will be empty except for opposing team’s fans & no one will care about this team one way or another. Do something before it’s too late. PLEASE!!

By chuck

November 20, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this

I don’t think that the personal or racial comments add anything to this discussion. I’m glad that most people of all races have progressed to the point that we realize that there will always be a small fringe element that prefer sheep over their wives.

By Birdshit

November 20, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

The Falcons are the same pathetic losers they have always been, I started following the Falcons in 1979 and with the exception of a few years they have been awful. They are no more than an extension of the cheerleaders. Mike Vick is sorry as hell, the receivers are just bad, the defensive is no better than the defenes of a Community College and Jim Mora and Arthur blank make me sick to my stomach chatting on the sidelines when a game is being played. Arthur shut the hell up, get the problem fixed and keep you a* in your million dollar box.

By Josh

November 20, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

I don’t know why you people waste your time calling for Mike Vick to be benched. CLEARLY it would be the wise move, but also clear is the fact that for some reason the Falcons have made him the highest paid player in the NFL…….which is a better joke than anything i’ve ever heard from a comedian. I can’t wait until Matt Schaub finally gets to go to a team where they understand what a QUARTERBACK is…..and I halfway hope he comes in here everytime and kills Atlanta…….if the past 2 seasons haven’t been punishment enough, that will do the job.

By Talons of Fire

November 20, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Here’s a suggestion. All of you whiners and naysayers head to the Falcons’ training camp, suit up and take us to the playoffs and super bowl. Ed, make sure you suit up as the starting QB and Roger Beaver, you play wide receiver. I’m sure this will turn the Falcons’ ship around and we can all be celebrating a Super Bowl win in early 2007 with all of the thanks going to Mr Ed and Eager Beaver!

By Top Dog

November 20, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Mr Blank I am farklempt, I hate to be a kvetsh but the team is playing like shlekht. You are such a mentsh but the sidelines are no place for a you. Please get rid of Mora he is a shmendrek. And Vick is just a plain shlemil. You need to give Schaub a chance he is not just another sheyner ponim.

By cliff w

November 20, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

TO ALL THE VICK BASHERS THIS GUY IS A LEGIT QUARTERBACK. HOW CAN U HAVE GREAT PASSING STAT UF U DON’T HAVE TIME TO PASS OR ANYONE TO PASS TOO. WE DON’T HAVE AN OC THAT KNOW HOW TO CALL PLAYS. HAVE OF YOU VICK HATERS PROBABLY NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAME OF FOOTBALL. IF U KNOW A TEAM IS OUT TO KILL YOUR QB EVERY CHANCE THEY GET U SCREEN PASS THEIR TAILS TO DEATH THAT WILL STOP ANY PASS RUSH OR PRESSURE. OH, I FORGOT WE DON’T HAVE THAT PLAY IN OUR PLAYBOOK. COACHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Rob Hicks

November 20, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

Folks, Mikey Vick isn’t smart enough to run this offense and certainly not on any consistent basis. Give Shuab a shot at it since the season is over.

By Lawton

November 20, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

u f… rednecks, this stuff just like on the job and you terds wonder why black men dont wanna work for cr..kers. all this talk about vick this and vick that, mora senior hollering about vick being a coach killer. i distinctly remember john elway coming into the league and dumping on a whole franchise (the colts), said he wasnt gonna play for them and you terds didnt say a word. THEN, he got reaves fired (coach killer huh?) and you terds didnt say a word. THEN, eli comes into the league and dumps on a whole franchise (san diego) and the necks didnt say a peep. you guys are the same necks that ran david justice, dion sanders, and dominique out of atlanta and wonder why atlanta is losersville usa. i aint forgot the bumper stickers. the only reason black athletes come to atl is because of the ethnic makeup of the city, but then they get broken in by the necks and start hating atlanta just like peerless price summed it up when he said “i hate yall”. f.. atlanta sports, this city aint s… now,someone finally told the truth about this necka.. country city.

By fatz

November 20, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

blame the owner. blame no one else. signing MV for 10 years or whatever at huge $’s on what was still mostly “promise” and thereby locking your team into a salary cap problem…. hiring a neophyte coach/staff to put in a very mechanical system for a guy who is a free-form player…… Mr B wants to put a winner on the field more than anybody, but now we must all wallow in these mistakes for the immediate future, because there isn’t a quick fix here. we tank the season, we fire the coaching staff, we bring in a new guy who puts in a new system. for us, since we don’t seem to be quick learners, that will mean a couple of seasons of getting it right, getting the right players to operate it, and by then #7 won’t have his wheels anymore. will he have the arm and the vision to pull it off? not a pretty picture…

By Tony

November 20, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

The answer is simple. Trade Schaub to the Bears, get a couple draft picks and watch the Bears become a dynasty. If Schaub was with the Bears they would still have a big O under the lost. But America has their heads so far up vick’s A$$ he would never make it in Atl. Trade him and get something for him while you still can!

By RJB

November 20, 2006 10:45 AM | Link to this

It’s not too late for the Falcon’s brass to start using their playing talent regrdless of previous positions played. Put Vick in the slot as our triple threat player. Put Schaub at QB & our recievers will miraculously start catching “catchable” balls. Let defenses have to seriously defend against more than one threat and we might just have a consistent offense that allows our defense to not spend most of the game on the field! Vick never (had to) learn to read defenses nor did he learn proper throwing mechanics…apparently he doesn’t think he needs to and after 6 years, no one apparently can tell him!!! Falcons management is THE BOSS…start acting like it and you just might salvage this (and other) seasons!

By Ed

November 20, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Mr. Talons on fire…

I am not an NFL quarterback. I don’t have a $100,000,000.00 contract saying I am. But I do know one when I see one, and I didn’t see one on the field for the Falcons the last three weeks. You can talk about Vick when he has accomplished something on a consistant basis, but for now I’ll take first year started Philip Rivers, over 5 year starter Vick any day.

By Jas

November 20, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

Get a real coach and stop the losing experiment with Mora and his useless role on the sidelines. Vick, you need to step up or step out. Spend more time on the playbooks than the image and get back into the game. You can walk around with a big head after you have won a superbowl ring.

The Atlanta Falcons suck

By Talons of Fire

November 20, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

By Ed

November 20, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

“Mr. Talons on fire…

I am not an NFL quarterback. I don’t have a $100,000,000.00 contract saying I am.” That’s precisely my point Mr Ed.

By Leon

November 20, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Hey Lawton, You probably blame other people for everything, don’t you? I bet you’d blame the white state of GA Governor if your wife decided to leave your p** and vinegar a* too, huh? Reverse racism is alive and well and don’t be such a stupid f*cking moron and say it’s not.

By ed

November 20, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

What point?????? You have no point.

By ed

November 20, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

But here’s my point…

But I do know one when I see one, and I didn’t see one on the field for the Falcons the last three weeks. You can talk about Vick when he has accomplished something on a consistant basis, but for now I’ll take first year started Philip Rivers, over 5 year starter Vick any day.

By David

November 20, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this

Nothing changes until Vick is gone, You could have Belichick as head Coach and Marvin Harrison and TO as wideouts, Vick still loses.

Mora Sr right about Vick, just another losing player much like marbury of the Knicks. Doesn’t care.

By Stan Smith

November 20, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Excerpts from Mora’s interview on 790 this morning with Chris Dimino:

Mora said he hears the fans concerns but will stay the course with the team. He feels they need a player to step up and make a difference. He said going for it on 4th down was risky and he should have called a QB sneak. On his dad’s comments, Mora said they came from a concerned yet unimformed parent. Regarding the possibility of starting Schaub over Vick, Jim said no chance. On Arthur Blank, Mora said he is a smart man and is consistent(that would imply that Blank has given him no indication that changes are coming). On Knapp, Mora supports what he is doing and says it is typical for an OC to be a hero one week and a goat the following week.

That all spells- MORE OF THE SAME.

By Stan Smith

November 20, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Mora’s comment about audibles:

Forgot to add….when asked if Vick has the ability to audible, Mora said on certain plays they have an audible option built in. Went on to say that the scheme doesn’t allow audibles like the Colts and other teams do.

Translation: Vick has a very limited ability to audible and when he does there is only one play he can go to.

By mark

November 20, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Didn’t the Detroit Lions spend 2 or 3 first round picks on WR? What did that get them? A group of underperforming athletes who they eventuall got rid of all but 1! Hmmmmmm….team is underprepared, the schemes are as basic as they come, coaching staff in question, receivers dropping balls, no intensity? That sounds like another team I root for about an hour north of here. Must be something in the water!

By Lawton

November 20, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

damn,people come on the net and say all kinds of crap and act like its fact. sorry i struck a nerve of truth with u leon. by the way, got plenty of women, you want one? im the real deal fool. rebut the fact, you necks have never said anything was wrong with elway and eli for dumping on teams like they did. i played football in high school and know thats a definite do not do. and u necks didnt say a word. cuz yall necks. now get out your spit cup and spit on that.

By Adrian

November 20, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

I think one of the reasons this season(and last for that matter) has been so deflating for me is that I truly believed the hype that we have a championship team. Now I’m not so sure that we have a championship team that happens to be playing badly, but just an average and at times above average team. I can’t vouch for other cities, but when I hear over and over again that Atlanta has horrible fans….I begin to ask myself what are fans in other cities with underachieving teams like? Is the bar set as high as it is here? Do the fans set the bar high or does the organization set the bar high? More importantly, is there as much hype about those underachieving teams in other cities as there is here? For me personally I have to say I don’t think I would be as thoroughly dissapointed and angry at the Falcons if I hadn’t bought in to the hype, and if I hadn’t of felt like the victim of false advertising. So let’s be honest Falcons, we really just don’t have that great of a football team…flashes of brilliance, yes, exciting players, yes sometimes, but a consistently good football team, no. Now I’m probably not saying anything that no one knows already, but let’s not kid ourselves we do not have a championship team that just needs to “get it together,” or “play all four quarters,” or “needs new coaching.” Even though new coaching would help I think we would all feel better to just see the honest truth that we just aren’t that good. So there, I’ve gotten out of the hype and feel much better, I will still support the falcons and hope that we become consistently good. I’d be interested to hear any feedback from what other fans think regarding the hype making the losses all the more painful, and maybe that being the greatest source of frustration?

By mo

November 20, 2006 11:24 AM | Link to this

Trevor Pryce, Defensive End for the Baltimore Ravens quote:

“Our focus was to get out of this game with a win to be 8-2,” Pryce said. “But I know this, for me personally, I never want to play Michael Vick again. He’s as special a football player as I’ve seen on any level. I’d rather play Peyton Manning several times than play him again, and you can quote me on that. So Mike Vick, thank you, goodbye, and I don’t ever want to see you again.”

Nuff Said

By Shell

November 20, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this

Just a point to prove how some of you, who say the season is over, are just idiots. With six games left we are one game out of first place in the division, and have to play the two teams that are ahead of us. Yeah quit now and phone it in! You people are quitters and idiots. As long as there is time on the clock, there is time to win. Oh never-mind you losers don’t understand that concept.

By Charles

November 20, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

Talons of Fire,

you are some kind of idiot. Since when is a QB beyond reproach. Since when do you have to be able to suit up as a QB in the NFL to criticize the play of QB in the NFL? Just like every other team in the NFL when the team plays poorly the QB gets the blame.

Who gets the blame for the Colts failures to win the Superbowl…Peyton Manning does you f’n idiot. Who got the blame when the Eagles lost the Superbowl…Donovan McNabb you f’n idiot. Who got blamed when the Cowboys struggled in the beginning of the season…Drew Bledsoe you f’d idiot. Who got praised when the Patriots won the Superbowl…Tom Brady you f’n idiot. Who got praised when the Falcons beat the Steelers and Bengals, Vick you f’n idiot. So who is going to get the blame when they lose to the Lions, Browns and Ravens…Michael Vick you f’n idiot.

Win or lose the QB is the face of the franchise. He gets the majority of the praise and blame. The Falcons have been losing so Vick gets the majority of the blame…deal with it you f’n idiot.

By darrell robinson

November 20, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

basically the jim mora hire was just plain stupid ….the falcons need a coach thats is an intervator some1 to use what vick has in the right way also they should have either signed TO or Moss to make up for vick not being the most accurate passer in the world with them the other recievers would become better as they gain confidence

By Rod

November 20, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Hey,

FIRE JIM MORA AND THE WHOLE STAFF!!!

Charlie Weiss would be a good fit.

By Gee Wallace

November 20, 2006 11:34 AM | Link to this

Some simple facts. 1. The defense is too soft, and not coached well. 2. Our o-line sucks. What quaterback can win getting hit 17 times out of the 24 times u attempt a pass??? 3. No trust in the QB receiver relationship. They think he can’t get it to them, he feels they can’t catch it. 4. Jim Mora and the coaching staff stinks. 5. Time for Arthur and Rich to put the money where it needs to be. I have been reading the comments and everyone makes valid points. I’m not a big MV fan, but the 2(Pitt,Cincy) games he had protection he looked like a QB and no one complained. I think we can win with Vick, but we need the resources on the O-line and spend some money on some receivers that can get open. ANd we still need a few more players on defense. Oh, anybody got some season tickets they want to sell???

By i like vick but . . .

November 20, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Does anyone remember that VA Tech used to simplify the offense so Vick could run it?

That’s a college offense.

Maybe that’s the problem.

Not to be ugly, but maybe he’s just not a genius.

By Homer Pimp

November 20, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

Y’all saw dat corn-rowed rappin’ blunt-smokin’ Vicki grinnin’ & prissin’ after the LOSS. All he kare ‘bout is spreadin’ mo hurpies to anutha dum be-yatch. Bling bling. Peeze owt.

By Not a Coach

November 20, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this

No time for me to pretend I’m a coach, general manager or owner of this pathetic team and try to come up with all the answers to all of the question marks. So I say, who even gives a crap anymore.

By bk hawk

November 20, 2006 11:57 AM | Link to this

The season has been over since last year. MORA is not a WINNER but a winnie. He will never win in Atlanta with his %#@*& coaching. IF BLANKS REALLY CARES HE WILL FIRE THE CRY BABY AND GET A REAL COACH. I walked out after the 1st Q couldn’t take no more of MORA. I love Blanks but Man where’s your balls! Stop Mora !!

By Ryder

November 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

  1. Vick needs to put the plugs in his ears and take the mantle of leadership for himself, because no one else on this team will do so. The press conference after the game showed a team that has no idea what they want to do. That is a direct reflection of the coaching staff. How on earth can you have such a multi-dimensional QB and not know how to use him? It’s beyond me!

  2. I don’t fault the defense, Donatell is doing what he can with this team on injuries. This team in the last three games (with the exception of the 4th quarter of the Detroit game)has played well on defense in my opinion, they’ve just been worn out because the offense can’t move the ball. B-more dominated the time of possession. I’m proud of how Donatell is keeping this young unit together.

  3. The special teams gave up too many yards to BJ Sams on the returns. That hurt.

  4. They forgot their identity, even Dunn questioned why they abandoned the running attack. Once again it comes down to the OFFENSE. This is the reason no one fears Atlanta, because they have no idea what they want to do when they have the ball. Even the sorrier teams at least have an idea of what kind of offense they need to play. With most passing games it’s operating through the system, with Atlanta it’s ‘let’s throw the ball up and hope someone comes down with it’. Yeah Knapp some system!

By tony

November 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

The problem starts at the top with the owner. He fired the only coach to get us to the superbowl after waiting over 20 years to get us there. It was Dan Reese who put Michael Vick in the right situation for him to be successful. That being said Michael Vick from my observation respected Dan more so than Mora. Aurthor Blanch hire Mora based on personality rather than his success in the National Football League. I believe that if Dan had stayed around a year after Mike’s injury that he would have gotten us back to another superbowl. I don’t won’t to criticize Mora but he doesn’t strick me as a head coach. In other words he doesn’t have the right demeanor to coach in the NFL. I strongly believe that Mike will never be successful in this offense. My gut feeling is that if DJ Shockley was given the opportunity that he could run this this offense. I truely believe that.

By Charles

November 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Homer Pimp,

You are obviously white and you are obviously a complete Moron. Spare us the racist BS and just shut the F up.

By CatScratchFever

November 20, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

I love Jim Mora….great coach! Hope he stays for another 10 years. Vick…flashes of brilliance…no consistency…he’s not real bright…QB’s need brains. See ya Christmas Eve…Carolina has a present for you. A big ole cane of WHoop A**!!!!!!!!!

By CatScratchFever

November 20, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

I love Jim Mora….great coach! Hope he stays for another 10 years. Vick…flashes of brilliance…no consistency…he’s not real bright…QB’s need brains. See ya Christmas Eve…Carolina has a present for you…a big ole can of WHOOP A*S!!!!!!!!!

By Jeff

November 20, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Fire Mora and get Jeff Fisher in here now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Willie C Wiley

November 20, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

So the team is losing and all the Falcons fans are “reaching for straws” trying to find something or someone to blame. In searching for the scapegoat, they pick on the coach, the QB the OL, the WR, the owner..yet, there is no consistency. Well, when a team is playing as poorly as the Falcons, it places blame in one area and one area only…Coaching..period. If it was just ur QB who was the blame, that can be easily fixed, but it’s not..Heck you can P. Manning at QB and the team would not be any better. You simply don’t have enough “playmaker” on your team to be winners. You have one “great player/athlete” andt is your QB,but he can’t do it alone. He needs help and quite frankly, the coaching staff and personnel director hasn’t gotten him the playmakers he needs to be successful.

I am sorry Jim Mora Sr., but Jr is not the coach for this team and neither is the O-coordinator. Spend money and get some “difference makers” and see your team go to the Superbowl with Vick at the help.

By Bernard K.

November 20, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

The falcons are one game out in the division. and they play the saints next week, If we get a little more healthy we can win so games and go 9-7 or 10-6.

for all the vick haters, Is carson palmer the reason the bengals are 5-5?

stop blaming this guy for everything.

we have a bunch of winnable games coming up.

redskins. carolina in the dome. saints in the dome. tampa bay cowboys in the dome. eagles without mcnabb.

lets get healthy and win some games. we are right in the think of things. even those it seems like we are having the worst season ever.

By June Jones

November 20, 2006 12:16 PM | Link to this

The Falcons will always be the Falcons, if you were stupid enough to drink the Mike Vick and Arthur Blank Kool-Aid then shame on you….welcome to Loserville baby!!

By Long Ball

November 20, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

“With the first pick, in a trade of Mike Vick to the Oakland Raiders, the Atlanta Falcons select…”

By Long Ball

November 20, 2006 12:22 PM | Link to this

“With the first pick, in a trade of Mike Vick to the Oakland Raiders, the Atlanta Falcons select…”

By chuck

November 20, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

The Falcons are so horrible on offense and so dumb-founded that one would wonder how do they find their uniforms to get dressed. The Falcons are totally lost. In all three losses, Vick continue to make bad decisions. He’s over throwing or under throwing wide open receivers. He is taking un-neccessary sacks. Mora and Knapp are just horrendous play-callers. This team will be fortunate to make the play-offs and if so, they will lose the first game. So why bother to fight for a post-season disappointment? The refs didn’t help by making bad calls throughout the games. Like the pass interference call against D-Hall. Just a lot of terrible calls by the refs.

By Tony B.

November 20, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

Ok! Lets be honest here! Mike Vick is not the problem! Knapp must go!! With Vick he needs to be a rollout QB,shotgun,and option QB. Knapp seems to think he is a dropback QB! There is the problem!! I am also tired of Mora saying “It is what it is” and “Well everyone else has injuries too its a crazy league” talking about a cop-out! Of all of the REAL!! Falcons Fans out there, we all know the problem is Knapp!! Ok well Mora needs to quit Baby-ing our injured players too!! Why not put Abraham,J williams(where is he)? Mora says I want to make sure ABE is ok(baby-ing)again!! Mora wake up the only way to salvage the season is to play HARTWELL,ABRAHAM AND J WILLIAMS! If they re-injure thierself so be it!!!!!!! Our backs are against the wall!!!Also Why not fire Knapp and let Vick be Vick!!Let him call the plays!!!!! I think he could do a better job than Knapp at this point!!!

By SM

November 20, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, I was Christmas shopping yesterday after donating to the Red Cross. Are the Falcons still playing?

When Blank bought the team and started making big, bold moves everyone was happy. Now those moves have turned out to be busts. We’ll just have to live with the results until enough time passes to allow him to blow it up and start over again. We’re Falcons fans, so we should be used to this by now.

Am I giving up? No. I never had any faith in this team to begin with. I also don’t allow my local sports teams’ successes or failures to affect me personally. It’s sports… it’s a nice thing to watch when I have time, but I don’t let it affect my happiness with life.

By Larry

November 20, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this

I am not a mainstream blogger but I am a very concerned Falcons Fan. Jim Mora has got to go and NOW! I was sold on Jim Mora when he was originally brought here because my theory was we needed a young energetic fiery coach. Instead we got a potent loser that can’t coach talent! We have one of the most talented teams in the league from top to bottom. I’m not ready to give up on Vick quite yet because he is talented and in the wrong offense.. which comes back to well.. coaching. Greg Knapp certainly needs to go. Ed Donatell .. it is tough to say because of the injuries the last 2 years.. but should be watched closely. I love the Falcons.. I’m the biggest fan that ever walked this earth.. this team should be headed for the Super Bowl instead of disaster..

By cali

November 20, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

WHEN YOU’RE A FAN YOU ALWAYS WANT TO SEE YOU’RE TEAM WIN. BUT SOMETIMES WINNING HIDES YOUR SHORTCOMINGS, AND THIS TEAM HAS LOTS OF HOLES. MORA IS A NICE GUY WHO WILL DO WELL IN COLLEGE,BUT HIS POST GAME COMMENTS LED ME TO BELIEVE HE HAS NO CLUE. HE TALKS ABOUT THE TEAM CONTINUING TO FIGHT SO WHAT IS HE SAYING THAT THE TEAM HAS NO FIGHT, HOW ABOUT DISCUSSING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE O-LINE,THE LACK OF EXECUTION ON SPECIAL TEAMS, THE NEED TO RE-ESTABLISH THE RUN. HE JUSTIFIES HIS TEAMS MISTAKES BY SAYING THE LEAGUE IS “WACKY” SORRY COACH BUT YOUR TIME HAS COME FALCON FANS RECOGNIZE THE TALENT THIS TEAM POSSESS WE NEED A COACH WHO WILL HOLD EVEYONE ACCOUNTABLE!!! FALCON FAN IN CALI

By Rex

November 20, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

Like most darkies, Vick has alot going for him physically. However, mentally he is just on a lower evolutionary scale. The Falcons would be best served moving him to RB or KR so he can just play on instinct. The more Vick, and others of his ilk, have to think, the worse the end result will be. Do i hate Vick, no, because he can’t help it, its simply bad breeding.

By justanotherguy

November 20, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

Rex…

In the immortal words of Lewis Grizzard, a Great American….

Don’t believe I’d a said that one…

Put your sheet back on and go march somewhere.

By Ronny

November 20, 2006 01:24 PM | Link to this

I grew up in San Diego and have followed the Chargers for years. They’ve had their ups and downs, but have been good to great many, many times. They’re still my team. Want to see a fine, young quarterback? Watch Phillip Rivers!I’ve lived in Atlanta for 15 years now— and have tried to become a Falcons fan, too. But just haven’t been able to do it. I hoped, though, when Arthur bought the team things would change, and fast. But it hasn’t happened. It all began when Mora was hired over Lovie Smith. Now the Falcons are in shambles. Some of it is just bad luck (the injuries.) But it’s mainly the coaching. It’s too bad, because I still really believe Mike Vick can be an outstanding NFL quarterback. But he’s going to waste here. He needs to go where he’ll get some PROTECTION, before he’s seriously injured.

By STEVE SPIGNER

November 20, 2006 01:36 PM | Link to this

For God’s sake, give Matt Schaub a chance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By honest_abe

November 20, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this

i have defended mike vick ever since he donned on a falcons jersey… i still believe he is a great talent, who can flourish under the “right” system…. but at some point even the vick apologists like myself must realize he has to be held accountable to a certain extent for this offense’s ineptitude…

vick proved yesterday… that he is regressing…. i don’t know the specific/underlying reason why.. but, it could be for a lot of different reasons…. (knapps system, maybe vicks relationship with knapp, the o line, the receivers.. etc..) but i can’t continually defend passes that are thrown 15 feet behind/above receivers… i can’t defend taking a sack…when you are in prime position to score… i can’t defend the lack of leadership displayed by vick yesterday..

in conclusion.. i’m ready to see schaub

By justanotherguy

November 20, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

I do believe that we’ll see “the real Falcons” this next game.

In fact, I think we’ve seen “the real Falcons” for the last 3 weeks.

Ladies and Gentlemen, presenting your “real Falcons”:

  1. We have an owner who thinks what he has to say is SO IMPORTANT that he just CAN’T WAIT to share his wisdom - that he JUST HAS TO interrupt his head coach during the game…I’m sure some indispensable Home Depot parable is just what we need in the midst of a game.

  2. We have a coach that apparently does not feel the need to communicate with his assistant coaches (no headset?) and apparently has every facet of the gameplan committed to memory (no clipboard?). Such a mental giant, but if so, why have so much confidence in the assistants? Hmmmm - a contradiction, eh? This same coach has absolutely no ability to communicate with the public regarding what is wrong. I think he knows exactly what’s wrong, but has been muzzled by the owner, and told what he can say, and what he can’t.

  3. We have a quarterback being paid “hall of fame” wages that does not have what it takes to be a great, or even good quarterback. He is, at best, dazed and confused. The game is too complicated, too fast for him, and he (so far) has not shown the ability to comprehend it. He also seems to have a fatal flaw - because the game has not slowed down enough for him, and because he is unwilling to risk turnovers, he will not throw the ball with any “touch” - he will wait those last few milliseconds before he decides to fire, then throws a laser than cannot be caught by Raymond Berry, mush less the relatively pedestrian receivers the Falcons employ.

  4. The receivers - a hopeless bunch, excepting Algie. Leilee and Finneran may help us next year, but White has to go. Jenkins might could stay, but he’ll have to make some plays - he’s a second- or third-stringer on any other team.

  5. The best quarterback we have is sitting on the bench holding a clipboard.

Selah…say bye-bye to the season, it’s toast.

By KC

November 20, 2006 01:48 PM | Link to this

If the Falcons are “finished” like everybody keeps repeatedly mentioning, then why do we keep rehashing this season?? Talk about next year!!

By Desmond

November 20, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

I DIDN’T KNOW THE SOUTH WAS THIS RACIST! THEY STILL CALL BLACK PEOPLE “DARKIES” DOWN THERE???

I THOUGHT THAT THE SOUTH WAS MORE ENLIGHTENED, BUT I SEE NOW THAT IT IS NOT.

SAD.

By KC

November 20, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Desmond,

What the hell are you talking about?

By Lawton

November 20, 2006 01:55 PM | Link to this

well said ronny. EVERYBODY knows vick needs a offensive line and better playcalling. mora and knapp think they outsmarting people. THEY HOPING vick fails so that they can say vick is was just stupid and cant get the offense. why else would mora say “it is what it is’? no, dan reaves felt his offense was too complicated because of the verbiage. what did he do? he didnt run around like a neck saying vick is stupid, HUNDREDS of players flunk out of the nfl simply because they cant get the systems down. i dont feel vick is the smartest straw but he isnt the dumbest, but thats not the point, the point is a real coach would put vick in a position to win, not 3 and long with NO OFFENSIVE LINE AND everybody, including the beer vendor knowing exactly what plays they gonna run. dan reaves let vick be a quarterback with rolling pockets, playaction, the exact things he did with the mobile john elway. when vick plays good the necks dont say a peep, but when the falcons lose OR vick plays bad, they come running out the woods Yeehaawww!!

By rasto

November 20, 2006 02:00 PM | Link to this

We can still make the playoffs and possibly win one game in the post season. It is not out of reach, considering the games coming up., NO, Washington, Philadelphia, etc., BUT there must be a coaching change this week. Jim Mora just does not have it; he is not more than a high school coach and cheerleader that acts goofy on the sidelines. Mike Vick has his problems, too, but he has enough phhsical talent to get the job done. He may have to mix more short passes, screens and draw plays, but it is do-able. Have someone who really knows offensive football to call the plays for him and explain clearly, slowly what to do and when to do it and this season will end better than we hoped. Falcon fans, do not give up and do not jump ship because we have hit a wall. We can tear down that wall with hope and courage. But Arthur, if you are reading any of these blogs, the time to act is NOW! Get rid of Mora and get some new coaching blood, even if YOU have to do it. Jerry Jones of Dallas has proven that an owner can coach the team from the sidelines. We are counting on you. Let’s get to those playoffs.

By justanotherguy

November 20, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Desmond…

There are still a few of them down here, that should not be a surprise. They’re not the exlusive property of the South, either. Some of the most virulent bigots I’ve experienced are in the midwest and northwest.

However, the real surprise is that they know how to operate a computer, and can write…intelligably.

By ToePro

November 20, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

  1. Defense played great!

  2. Special Teams Sucked!

  3. Vick played a horrible 2nd Half!

  4. Knapp has to be fired!

  5. 2007 for Mora win or leave!

  6. Arthur stay in the Boothe! It’s embarrasing to see your owner on the sidelines!

  7. I predict a 7-9 season! Frustraiting!

By Phil

November 20, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

For those who say the losses aren’t Vick’s fault, I would agree in part. They are INDIRECTLY his fault, due to his contract. You see, when you accept $127m contract, you reduce the amount of money available to the team to sign free agents. Is it any wonder that when some of our first string defenders and OL go down, our 2nd team just can’t get it done? We lost to Baltimore because our defensive was just plain worn out after playing every down. We have no depth, and that is because Vick took all the salary cap money. Blank can’t “go get a better OL” if Vick has all the salary cap money. We get the best players the remaining money can buy - thats why we get injured defenders, poor DBs, and ineffective 2nd string linemen.

Vick, if you don’t want to be the blame, renegotiate your contract, free up salary cap, and let your management get you better supporting players.

If you choose not, then get used to unahppy fans, and getting sacked alot. By the way, how in the heck did you let a nosetackle sack you in open space yesterday? I thought you said you were fast and elusive…..

By Mark Simpson

November 20, 2006 02:08 PM | Link to this

Okay—I have saying that the falcon’s should trade Michael Vick for a long time: Get as much as they can for him and let him go.

On the other hand I remain optimistic. All these 2nd and 3rd teamers being able to get playing time now will help the team later on.

Frankly, I’ll go on record right now and say These “dirty birds” will make the playoffs.

Me

By gg

November 20, 2006 02:12 PM | Link to this

Remember last week when Mora said he looked this kind adversity, wow..then he is at the right place

By Blackdem

November 20, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

I think you are being overly critical of Mike Vick And Jim Mora. I truly don’t think most of you watch the game of football. with all the pressure that the ravens put on Vick and the offense yesterday, Matt schaub woul dhave been sack 10 times. You needed to truly look at the PITT and Cincy Games and then compare it to the last three Time+ Recievers+play calling = Success. Look no further than Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. This team can win the next 6 games if they can come up with a formula that puts thoe thing together. I guarntee if Mike leaves Atlanta he will be successful where ever he goes next.

By justanotherguy

November 20, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Mark - the best suggestion I’ve heard is that Vick should renegotiate his contract to free up cap space.

Phil is absolutely right.

Without that, no other coach will touch him on a trade basis.

Even if they wanted him, which is doubtful.

By Fredrick

November 20, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Roger, charles and rex u guys can sit behind your computers, and write such rubbish. If any of u three were in front of me i would beat the s** out of u pathetic fools. Brees, manning, and palmer haven’t won jack just like vick. Vick at least was in the conference championship game. Isn’t this the same breeswhose propensity to throw ints led the chargers to draft eli, and trade him for rivers? Why try diminish the accomplishment of vick in college by arguing that he played against inferior opponents when 55% of the teams he beat were ranked in the top 25. Did he not almost single handlely beat FSU, the # 1 team in the national game? It is ok to critique him, but that criticism has to be objective.Vick does not have the skill players most of the qbs u cite have, and yet he done a lot with less. You f*** convieniently ignore that point when u bash vick. And to you weaver have u ever heard michael vick speak? He is as articulate as any qb in the nfl. It is pointless arguing with you idiots, cos no matter what this kid does u will fools will not be happy. I wish vick will leave ATL, and go somewhere else. There are plenty of teams who will line up to trade for vick if he ever becomes available. I will love to see that, and then bring the so called great qbs in the nfl and let c how they will perform. U ingrates in ATL don’t deserve a great qb. like vick. Look at the NFL on any given sunday, any team can and does lose. You morons are even worth arguing with. You are all beneath me. Like i said if y’all(charles, rex, and weaver) were in front of me i will be beat the three of u as if i was your mama. U stinking f*** trailer trash bastards. Sell all of your tickets and move to no, indy, or cincy. Muthafuckers.

By Lee

November 20, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

Vick’s a chump and a dumb one at that. Put in the guy who went to the REAL school in Virginia: Matt Schaub!

By Phil

November 20, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Blackdem, Schaub might have also been sacked, but I don’t think Baltimore would have been Blitzing him as much as they did for Vick. Vick has not demonstrated that he can toss the soft screen and hit a quick 3-step slant. Once a QB shows he can’t do that, it removes all risk of the defense in blitzing. One of the reasons that Peyton and Brady dont get sacked has to do with their ability to burn an overly aggressive defense. Vick hasnt shown he can do that, so there is no reason a defense wont blitz consistently. When the pressure comes, Vick sprints outside the tackles and launches the ball out of bounds. When the pressure hits a ‘poised’ QB, he dumps off a screen, or quick slant, and the receiver runs for 50 yards. People criticize the Falcons recievers for lack of Yards After Catch - if you look at most of TO, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith’s YAC, they are made on blitz killing dump offs where the receiver catches the ball with all the LBs behind him already. Just being fast does not make a QB good.

By Jim

November 20, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

Frederick, you are right, we aren’t worth arguing with - so leave, dipweed.

By mo

November 20, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

Phil-

I can agree with you. Are we so bogged down by Vick’s contract that we can’t get O-line help???

However, they did manage to get Ashlie Lelie. They still have other pieces in the Receiver Corps. And they also have great pieces in the defense.

Now what we lack (and I actually said this before the season started) is depth. We have great starters but that’s it. And if Vick gets hurt, we have no shot at anything.

So if renegotiating Vick’s contract can free up some space to shore up some depth, then I am all for it. And Vick should be for it, too. He’ll make it up in endorsements. But if money isn’t a problem, then you got other issues.

Now, did I hear this right? Did Jim Mora agree with Chris Dimino that Vick is a coach-killer??? I can hear Mora’s tenure going down the drain… This is his last year. Watch for Vick on Meet the Press or something this week, throwing a gauntlet down on Mora. Vick is going to fire him.

I mean, if I had Vick on my team, I would open up the offense in ways never before seen. He would be so much fun to coach. I mean, I would have him all over the field, passing, catching, running reverses. I would call it “The Freak Show.” It would sell out all stadiums.

Someone who can’t win with Vick is someone who shouldn’t coach.

Yes, I am saying that we need a regime change on the offense. This is the last year for the Mora team.

By Falcon Fan

November 20, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this

Well it’s evident people are divided over Vick and the team. I personally think you fight it to the end of this season. We are only 1 game behind. The NFC is up for grabs most teams have some issues. If we don’t go to the playoffs, you have no choice but to change personal until then you fight. Yesterday watching Manning I felt he needed some speed just to run for the 2 yards to tie the game. That was an idea Vick situation. Manning took it yesterday he couldn’t run. I would take Mike over Schab anytime. Mike gives us a better chance to win. Atlanta fans are tough on all of the sports teams from UGA on up. You win they praise and lose they don’t come to the game. 49ers, Detriot, PHili, Pitts, they stick it out. Think if Pitts would have given up last year.

By Just Poorly Coached

November 20, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

It’s the coaching and there approach to Vick. Reeves treated Vick like any other QB and let him use his special talents when necessary to gain an edge. These idiot coaches now see Vick as a freak of nature and designed the offense around these talents instead of using the Reeves approach. Mora was nor ready for this job. Just listening to his father tells you how they view Black QB’s ( code word Athlete). What his father said is disgussting and a total conflict of interest. The Dome sells out and we have Superbowl belief because of Vick, not Mora. Unfortunately we hired a inexperienced coach to handle Vick. Don’t be misguided Mckay and Blank share in the blame as does Vick and the other veterans. Remember the NFC was with Reeves personnel, then we shifted to these little lineman and these little Running backs and it’s been pretty much a roller coaster ride. Had the Falcons listened and at least discarded Webster and Knapp after the Giants loss, I still think we would be at worst 6 - 4 and still in first place. But they stand pat and watch the continual slide, and watch Knapp revert back to his conservative play calling after they got the Pitt and Cincy wins and bought him a little job security. They want Vick to run so he can get smashed and get Schaub in the game. Vick cried out in his own way on HBO, got two game results to open it but Knapp is just not creative enough. His but should be fired today and heck let Musgrave take over the playcalling. Couldnt be much worse because we are not scoring points. With that said, If Vick, Dunn, Crump, Milloy, Brooking and Reese stop running this Falcon code of silence BS and call out some of the nonsense going on behind closed doors out there, this team would respond. Lack of leadership is this biggest problem at the coaching and player level. It’s disheartning to the fans to here the same BS week after week and a seemingly lack of caring coming out of this team. Damn, does anyone in the organization have the heart to say forget a fine and say what needs to be said. This crap is just like the Smiths just with Bells and whistles. Blank, made a bad hire and will stick with it despite the obvious. Mora want hold his coordinators nor players responsible for crappy results and use the dandg injury excuse to no end. Heck get a new strenght and condtioning coach already. Its demoralizing for us real fans, not the haters who watch on TV because we have sold out the dome since Vick took the helms. Half the jokers on the blog, black and white sprew the nonsense that overshadows the real issues. Vick is our guy, and yeah he is an unfinished product but still the best we’ve had and gives us more upside than Matt S. Vicks growth has been staunted by this staff, but he is culpable for not being a leader and demanding better play calling,more on field responsibility because in the end the QB gets the praise and the blame. Save the season, somebody needs to make some nosie and show that this team does care and will fight to the end. Looks like they quit in the second half Sunday to me, knowing that their coach’s had no answer for what the Ravens started dishing out!

By Bill

November 20, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

Based on his spelling, grammar, vocabulary and inaccurate statistical analysis, I would agree that Frederick is clearly the missing Neanderthal link that scientists have been looking for. If we should recognize what Vick has done with ‘less’ surrounding talent, then we should recognize what Frederick has done with ‘less’ intelligence. Quite impressive, actually, considering the mental disadvantage…..

By Nikki

November 20, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this

I knew the birds were done after the Detroit game. I am a long time fan. The sad part about all of this is that I expect this team to win. With the pre-Vick ers teams, we all went in to the season knowing it would be awful. Anything above 1 win was gravy. Now, we expect to make the playoffs before the season starts. While it should be that way,it is very heartbreaking to deal with this team. When’s the draft?

By Tommy

November 20, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

What makes this team so frustrating to watch [and why Knapp needs to go] is that the offense can’t seem to remember what it did right one week to the next.

Why did Vick suddenly turn into a good passing quarterback against Pittsburgh and Cinci? Simple: They threw on first down. In the last three games, they’ve run on first down about 3/4 of the time. The running game has tanked because of the O-Line injuries, and no quarterback—I don’t care who—is going to be successful constantly throwing in situations where everyone knows a pass is coming.

Vick has proven that he can be a good passer—if he’s given the right system. The problem is unimaginative playcalling and receivers with hands of stone. How many drops have there been in the last three games? 20?

Why do we never run play action?Seriously, WHY???? How about rolling Vick to the right, even if he has no serious intention of passing it, just to throw the other team off once in a while?? How about a post pattern more than once a game?? Jenkins and White are lousy pass catchers but are pretty big by WR standards, so how about a toss sweep to Norwood a couple times a game?? And with both starting guards out, doesn’t anyone think it may be a good idea to run off-tackle behind one of our gigantic TEs instead of up the middle 15 times??? Am I the only one seeing this?

This offense is begging for a coordinator who will use its unique talents as an advantage instead of treating them as a problem to overcome. It needs a mad scientist, and instead we’re stuck with a guy whose specialty seems to be banging his head against a brick wall.

By It's not all coaching

November 20, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

To Just Poorly Coached…

Well our memory isn’t very good. Vick couldn’t pass any better in Reeve’s offense either. It’s just that teams were not use to his running. Well….they’ve figured that one out, and he still can’t pass. Not a good combination. He’s been thru at least three quarterback coaches and two offensive coordinators, and he still can’t throw the football consistantly.

Maybe everyone will believe he is limited when he’s gone thru another head coach and two or three more offensive coordinators and quarterback coaches.

By Joe

November 20, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

The players got their millions $$$. The Falcon players lack one thing money can’t but, HEART!!!!

By mo

November 20, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Phil,

The QB doesn’t put the offense in position to execute a “soft Screen”. The defense is taking the Soft Screen away by defending the flat. What stops the defense from being overly aggressive is the slant or hook pattern from the WRs. But if the WRs aren’t open, then the defense has no reservations.

It’s the receiver’s responsibility to get open that will take away the blitz and the running back’s responsibility to block once the blitz has been sniffed out. In other words, if they are blitzing, the WRs should have reduced coverage…

By Fredrick

November 20, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

TO the expert of the queen’s language bill: What grammatical and statistical errors are you talking abt? You are a f*** idiot. You are unable to offer any intelligent counter arguments so you resort to insults. You c, your statement clearly shows how stupid you are. One thing i know for certain is this: I am more intelligent,and an expert on the queen’s language(real english, not american english)than you will ever be in your lifetime. Do you even know who i am? Everybody on this blog once in a while makes some grammatical errors. Why? ‘cos we are all in a hurry and there4 do not take the time to proof read what we write. Does that mean i am less of an intelligent person than you? The mere fact you said that shows how immature and idiotic you are. You can hide behind your PC, and post such idiotic and incoherent messages. Let c u do that in person. I am going to be at the game this sunday(Row 5, seat #125).Show me how smart you are then. B***!

By Phil

November 20, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this

Mo, screens dont have to be in the flat. every defense is playing the outside flats - since that is primarily the only direction Vick runs. That leaves the middle open. Draw the overaggressive Dline and LBs in on a blitz and and dump over the middle. Its a simple play, they every other team runs. - its designed to burn the blitzers. that said, Vick cant throw the soft toss anyways, so maybe thats why we dont run it. Bottom line is Vick doesnt make the right decisions (cant get past 2nd reciever in progression before he is sacked), nor can he see over the line to make the slant pass. He can only see in the flats, or 15-20 yards downfield. Pretty easy to defend the field when the opposing QB removes 1/2 the area for you…….

By Talons of Fire

November 20, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

By Charles

November 20, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

“Talons of Fire,

you are some kind of idiot. Since when is a QB beyond reproach.”

Charles, this statement shows that you are an imbecile who can’t read. I never said the QB was beyond reproach. Those are your words. Judging from the rage in your post, I must have struck a nerve with you Jethro when I spoke of the rebel flag carrying, tobacco juice shirted, neo-nazi klan huh? What’s wrong Charles, can’t get the pee stains out of your dunce cap and sheet? Try some White Out! I’m sure that Rex has some. Ohhhhh! Is Charlzee Warlzee mad??? What an Inbred! LMAO!!! GO FALCONS!

By Joe

November 20, 2006 03:57 PM | Link to this

LOL at Frederick, complaining at someone who is “unable to offer any intelligent counter arguments so you resort to insults”, while calling him a f*ing idiot. LOL,

BTW, I think the 55% of the team’s Vick played being ranking in the Top25 is the statistical inaccuracy. Considering the ACC during Vick’s tenure, you only had FSU, Maryland, Celmson and UM in the Top25. VT played WF, Duke, UNC, NC State, GT, each and every year.

By saintfan

November 20, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

Cheer up Falcon fans. The Saints are coming this week. Whenever a team, or a player is struggling, all it takes is for the Saints to show up, and all is cured. Examples: The Bengals were a struggling team. The Saints made them look like they had been on a roll. Against the Steelers, Big Ben had thrown like 10 ints and 2 tds before the Saints showed up. He throws for 3 tds and no ints. So don’t feel to bad. Vick will probably be as accurate as Montana ever was, Dunn will get 150 yds, and the defense will look like the 85 Bears.

By David

November 20, 2006 04:00 PM | Link to this

The Falcons have shown once again that they are a complete fraud. They have repeatedly duped the fans into thinking that they have a special team in Flowery Branch, but the reality is that the Falcons couldn’t beat anyone in the National Football League as evidenced in the fact that they lost to Detroit and Cleveland (a combined record of 3-12 at the time) and then got kicked to the curb by the Ravens in a game in which the Falcons simply mailed in the loss. The Falcons showed no heart and I feel as though the Falcons should make two swift moves to ensure that the season gets saved. First of all, the Falcons should fire Jim Mora immediately! Secondly, the Falcons should release Michael Vick and promote Matt Schaub to the starting quarterback. Those two moves will ensure that the Falcons finish 11-5, make the playoffs, salvage the season, and possibly come away after all the dust settles as superbowl champions. I really see no other way out for the Falcons to go because Vick nor Mora will ever lead the Falcons to anything but failure. Let’s right the ship now before it is forever too late!

By Mo

November 20, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

Fredrick being an expert at the “queen’s english”? What a surprise. I knew he was a queen all along - nice having you come out of the closet, Fredrick (er, I mean Fredricia)

By Rell

November 20, 2006 04:03 PM | Link to this

To all you Vick Bashers…

From ESPN.COM:

Will Michael Vick ever be a consistent passer?

Allen: Consistency is what everyone looks for from their quarterback. To get to that point you have to have a lot of confidence not only in yourself, but also in your teammates. Right now I’m not sure (Michael) Vick is confident in his receivers making plays because of the drops and that is hurting his development as a consistent quarterback. When those receivers are getting separation in one-on-one coverage he’s getting them the ball, but a lot of the time they aren’t holding on to it and that’s one big reason the Falcons aren’t playing well.

Theismann: Vick can be a consistent passer in this league and he’s proven that in small doses. He’s still learning the position and learning what offensive coordinator Greg Knapp wants him to do out on the field. Also, this team needs to start relying more on Warrick Dunn in the running game to take some of the pressure off Vick.

Schlereth: Not until he can get a consistent offense around him. Over the past couple weeks I’ve watched his receivers drop almost 20 passes. They are constantly in single coverage and not getting any separation. This is a team that needs new receivers not a new quarterback. If you can’t separate and get open in this league then you should be selling cars on the weekend not playing receiver in the NFL. They have a couple first-round wide receivers and they all play like No. 3 receivers. The American public can bash Vick all they want, but it’s not his fault.

I think the experts know better than you idiots. The Falcons are just not well coached. Its that simple… The coaches play calling is so bad that Vick admitted that defenses call out the plays before the snap. Thats what happened on the last play of the browns game…. And Vicks not to short to throw passes in the middle of the field, if that was the case how could you explain a guy like Brees passing so well. Hes only 5’11..

By David

November 20, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

Way to go Arthur, Rich and Jim. The Falcons are now officially once again the laughingstock of the league.

By terrell

November 20, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

Im glad I got another favorite team(Dallas Cowboys).The falcon will continue to fall every year with that little league coaching staff.The falcons coaching staff are really a joke.This team do have some good players and can make the playoffs.Greg knapp playcalling really is the main reason why the birds are fallen so fast.Falcons don’t audible and the opposing defence take advantage of it.I wonder why isn’t anyone talking about the linebackers on the team.The linebackers suppose to be the heart of the defence.Our linebackers can’t tackle,not fast enough,can’t guard anyone.Last but not least the birds are finish.Arthur shouldn’t have hired little boys to do a grown man job.

By Wallace

November 20, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

How much longer is Arthur Blank going to put up with Mora and Vick. Mora needs to get his walking papers and Vick needs to be replaced. Give the boy on the bench a chance. He couldn’t do any worse. The fan base is eroding fast. Mora won the first year with Dan Reeves’ team. Bring Reeves back.

By Mo

November 20, 2006 04:30 PM | Link to this

Rell,

If you ask ex-players whose fault it is (especially exQBs) what do you think they will say - ITS THE COACHES. You’re like a democrat, you look at the initial info and form an opinion without understanding who said it and what might be behind their words. NFL players NEVER blame NFL players. Theismann, and others, comments are exactly what they will say regardless.

Ask a coach, (Mora Senior) and what do you think he would say………..

By Jason

November 20, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

I’m having a hard time understanding why coaches, sportscasters, owners, etc….aren’t seeing that the Falcons will never win a Superbowl or a NFC Championship with Mike Vick as quarterback. Why does Mora leave “Mr. Excitment” in a game after he commits four turnovers? Say what you want about his miraculous “two games” this season where he slung the ball like he was Joe Montana, but once again he’s proving to be the same inconsistant quarterback. Put him at wide receiver and allow Schaub to come in a win some games.

As far as Mora. I couldn’t agree more with the majority of the comments. Get rid of Mora and bring in a hard-nosed coach that isn’t going to play players that aren’t producing.

By can't we all just get along?

November 20, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

mora and the whole staff needs to go.

mckay would not be too far behind - he took a pretty talented team reeves handed him that was on the verge of greatness and now look at what we got : oft injured overpaid woulda, coulda, shouldas and we have no depth as a result when they end up getting hurt yet again.

vick - i love the guy. i have defended him over and over and over again from the relentless attacks here on the AJC. but at some point, me and the rest of the apologists just have to stop making excuses and start being real about it. The blame for these losses do not fall squarely on him. But what has anyone really truly seen out of Vick this year that just makes you want to keep fighting and fighting and fighting and defending the guy. The reality is that since they were 6-2 last year, he really just has not been that great: 7-11 which would be fine if we saw the guy chucking and running all around and just making you believe but i do not see it. Under this coaching staff, he really does not have a chance. But should his talent at least not stand out regardless of his coaching. we have all had bad bosses in our life and our work performance often goes down as a result but how often do we all look like a so what employee who does not look like he is better than the rest of his fellow employees. even if your boss is an idiot, if you got the skills, it should be a helluva lot more obvious than the lack of performance i am seeing out of vick for the last 18 games.

schaub - please stop calling for schaub!! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PROVIDE ME A JUSTIFICATION FOR WHY SO MANY OF YOU THINK SCHAUB IS JUST THIS GREAT NFL QB?!?!?! HE WAS NOT A GREAT COLLEGE QB. SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THE SCHAUB FASCINATION. I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK AND NONE OF YOU SCHAUB LOVERS EVER PROVIDE AN ANSWER. PLEASE PROVIDE AN ASWER: AND SAYING THAT WELL AT LEAST HE IS NOT MV7 IS NOT A VALID ANSWER

By Talons of Fire

November 20, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

Rell, Let it go man. You can’t argue with fools no matter how good your points are. These insiduous racists are hell bent on getting rid of Vick and will not be satisfied until David Duke is the coach, George Wallace is the OC and Lester Madd-Ox is the DC with Lynx and Lamb (whatever the hell their names are) as the cheer leaders. You can’t expect much more from a group of amoeba who are still pizzed about the civil war 140 years later. If they can’t get over that, there’s no way you’re going to convince them that Vick should be the QB for the Falcons. Some will couch their racism by saying they want to see DJ. THEY’RE TELLING LIES. Others will jump on McNabb’s band wagon. MORE LIES. Racial hatred is eating away what little gray matter they have. The good thing is that no matter what they say VICK WILL BE THE QB FOR THE FALCONS FOR YEARS TO COME AND THERE IS NOT A DAYUM THING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!! LMAO and Vick is laughing all the way to the bank! GO VICK! GO FALCONS!!!

By RK

November 20, 2006 04:46 PM | Link to this

Vick defenders are idiots. Except the ESPN guys that need him for ratings.

How long do you want to wait on Vick to learn the system? If you look around the league there are QB’s like Romo, Delhomme, Brady, Huard, Gerrard etc. that come off the bench having never had a start and know their offense well enough to win games.

Time for you all to admit that Vick is below average at best. There’s a better chance that he can’t read the playbook than his being able to learn the offense. It’s been 5 years now. Enough.

By RebelDawg

November 20, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

Vick is terrible, he lacks the intelligence and saavy to cut the mustard. We need a true QB like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning to run the show. All you Vick apologists just watch where this mug lands us (again)…sub .500!!!

By Mo

November 20, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this

Talons of Fire = Talons of Morons. It is not racism to say Vick can’t pass, and can’t win when you take away 1 element of his game. It is not racism, it is poor quarterbacking. If he was white, red, or yellow, he still would not be worthy of being the 2nd highest paid player in the NFL. I guess I just discriminate against overpaid, underwhelming, underachievers. Guilty as charged.

Good points about Romo, Delhomme, Brady, Huard, Gerrard. doesnt seem to take them 6 years to figure out an offense. Dont forget what Philip Rivers is doing in San Diego, or Brees in NO.

By Standaman

November 20, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

This is the time of year when I’m glad that I’m a Falcons fan living in North Carolina, where they don’t show the games on local TV. Saves me from compulsively wasting four hours of my life.

By HT

November 20, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Blank, who is a media whore (remember the McKay/Mora press conference, the Vick wheelchair incident, etc) wanted a yes man who he could push around whilst he plays with his new $400MM toy. He is as meddlesome as Jerry Jones ever was, and he has an elitist and stuffy attitude to boot.

Mora is clearly out of his element (except as a yes man), and Reeves, the only Falcon’s coach to win 2 playoff games in a season AND take the team to the Super Bowl, is out of the league.

Loserville is still Loserville, and the Falcons still do not qualify as a quality NFL caliber team. They have a good year, and several bad years, and then another good one to throw everyone off. The QB can’t throw accurately, the receivers can’t catch hard thrown balls, the O line is a sieve, and the defense isn’t the “swarming, killer unit” it once was.

What is the statute of limitations on ownership changes?

By Jerry Glanville

November 20, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

HELLO! Elvis and I are rotting down here. I just got off the phone with Steve Spurrier! After much discussion, We have decided to put our name in the cap for Co-Head Coach Positions. My offense and his will be melded and renamed.

The Fun, Run and Shotgun. We will have at least 19 plays per game and I sware that I will allow vick to audable at least 3 times a game.

By JEC IV

November 20, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this

Get off Vick’s back! Are you guys watching the same game as me? You know what I see, I see an offensive line that can’t pass block to save their lives. Vick is constantly being forced to run for his life. The receivers can’t catch a cold or get open. Perfect example, the flea flicker against Cleveland! You can’t get open on a trick play? Will someone explain to me how the Falcons have 3 first rounders at wide receiver and still the passing game sucks!! It isn’t all Vick’s fault! AS for the racist Falcons fans, who so desire to see Schaub play, you may get your wish soon enough. But if you think Schaub will do any better with that sh*tty line and garbage receivers, you got another thing coming! Typical dumb Atlanta sports fans, you always get rid of the wrong guy! You got rid of Dominque Wilkins and what have the Hawks done since then? Get rid of Vick and the same thing will happen. Change Vick to wide receiver? Of course, the dumb black guy can’t be a quarterback, right? All black males are too stupid to play QB, right? White guys are smart enough to play quarterback. As for trading Vick, there will be plenty of teams willing to take him on. Oakland won’t be alone. How does Vick going to the Dallas Cowboys sound? T.O., Terry Glenn, Jason Witten, Julius Jones, a better offensive line and Marion Barber sure would bring up Vick’s passing stats, wouldn’t it? Here’s a suggestion, “Falcons fans”, take Vick out of the equation and just watch the offensive line on passing plays. Then see if you still think it’s all Vick’s fault. Watch the wide receivers drop passes in their hands. When will you “fans” decide to blame the line for not blocking? When will you decide to blame the receivers for failing to haul in a catchable pass? or are you too wrapped up with the black man playing quarterback to notice the other flaws on the offensive unit?

By JEC IV

November 20, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

Falcons fans are the only fans I know who seem to think the talent level of the offensive line doesn’t matter. Rich McKay’s stubborness shows that he isn’t willing to protect Mr. Blank’s investment. How do you protect Mr. Blank’s investment, Falcons fans? You do that by drafting potential stud offensive tackles and signing All Pro guards like Steve Hutchinson! Keep Forney and dump the rest of the riff raff you have now. As for wide receiver, I heard Randy Moss wants to be traded. Vick has a great arm for deep passes. Moss will catch the ball when it’s thrown to him as opposed to the three “butterfingers’ receivers you have now.

By trilltalk

November 20, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

use the playbook nap

By Rell

November 20, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this

Mo… Mora SR was a loser just like his son….

By Rex

November 20, 2006 06:34 PM | Link to this

I defy one of you Vick lovers to prove to me that he is a real NFL calibre QB, and not the super athletic, dumb spade I know him to be. It takes a rare type of n**** to excel at the position, and Vick doesn’t have the brains, or patience.

By Victor

November 20, 2006 06:36 PM | Link to this

I feel Jim Mora and Greg Knapp should be fired.The offensive line is a joke and the play selection is terrible.I am a season ticketholder I don’t feel I am getting my money’s worth.

By Talons of Fire

November 20, 2006 06:39 PM | Link to this

Mo,

Why don’t you play QB since you’re an expert on the subject? it IS racism when hillbillies crticize the man’s intelligence to mention inbred comments from rex and sick people like him Probably come over from their klan site. Bottom Line, if you don’t want to be a Falcon fan, that is your choice, but don’t even pretend you know anything about the ability of pro football personnel BECAUSE YOU DON’T!

By Matt Schaub Stats

November 20, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this

In his rookie year, Schaub played in weeks 16 and 17.

In week 16 the Falcons played the Saints, and he went 17 of 41 with 188 yards, zero touchdowns, 2 interceptions, and ran the ball 4 times for 21 yards.

In week 17, the Falcons played the Seahawks, and Schaub was 14 of 22 with 133 yards, one touchdown and one interception, and ran the ball twice for 7 yards.

Last year, Schuab played extensively against the Patriots, and limited time against the Panthers.

Against the Patriots, Schaub was 18 of 34 with 298 yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions. He ran the ball twice for 3 yards.

That same year, against the Panthers, he went 9 of 13 with 110 yards and passed for a touchdown.

Clearly, when given the opportunity, Schuab has proven himself worthy of more playing time. Why he hasn’t gotten more playing time is a result of Blank caring more about selling #7 merchandise than winnig football games.

By tim

November 20, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

You are totally right JEC lV.The falcons offensive will make the best quareterbacks look bad.Mike Vick is makeing alot of mistakes but the line isn’t protecting him.Schuab wouldn’t do any better playing under that o-line and coaching staff.I hope Mora(cheerleader)get the boot.

By Rex

November 20, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this

Oh, but I do. I have intimate knowledge of what it takes, as well as what Vick doesn’t have. He is a fleet footed colored athlete, and thats all is jigaboo butt will ever be.

By keep it REAL

November 20, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

Mora has been here going on three years is the team getting better? Mr. Blank I hope you are looking for a new head coach. we need a x and o person on offense and defense. Defense has gone down fast. weak defense weak offense line weak receiver. most are weak because of the thing they teach them. One of the main flaws with this team is second and third team player they don’t play good and this is the coaches weakness. Both lines are weak Db’s second team are weak. More than any thing else we need strong coaches that know the player and the game` and how to win day in and day out . Just Win! AS bad as hate it one more lost we can call it a year. MR. Blank 1600 bucks is a lot of money for working people to buy tickets. We all want a winner Mora is like BUSH stay the course . Atlanta Falcons are loser . we need to win some super Bowls. It is past time for this city to win. The goal is to win some super bowls no more no less. Fine this team a leader that will win bar none!

By John

November 20, 2006 07:29 PM | Link to this

The more I watch Vick quarterback the Falcons the more I become convinced he does not have the intelligence to be a quarterback in the NFL. He cannot read defenses, no matter who works with him he does not seem to understand the concept of setting his feet before a throw, and finally he rarely throws the ball away as other quarterbacks do to avoid a drive killing sack. He is a great talent, but at half back or receiver. Not quarterback.

By Dawgone

November 20, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this

I think we can all come to the understanding that Vick will never be D.McNabb or P.Manning. He doesn’t have to be though for us to win. All Vick has to do is be decent and not make mistakes or at least limit the ones he does make. Couple the 3 to 4 Vick-ups(TM) with 5 to 7 dropped balls and a swiss cheese line… (do they actually field 5 guys every down???) Then you have a semi effective QB that can’t help but make even more mistakes.

That said…

What does M.Schuab have over Mike Vick? Height to see the blitz coming a little bit better. He was also taught from the get go to read defenses and such more so than Vick. Could Schuab be successful with this O-line? Sporatically, He could but then we are in the same boat as we are now. Vick is sporatic as hell. It isn’t all his fault nor can you blame the defense for falling apart when 1/4 of your starters are lost.

It is about heart now. Does Vick have heart? Do the Falcons have hearts?

By Bell Curve

November 20, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this

History has proven that when you have a miniscule IQ and are confronted with a strong argument, you play the race card… Become a victim of someone elses “hatred”… Get that crutch out and lean on it. Everybody knows that. But you really look like a mentally challenged fool when you claim to be a badazz on a blog. Get real. You pitiful loser.

By gg

November 20, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

this team is so undisciplined but then again it’s hard to be disciplined when your whole team along with the quarterback is just a bunch of thug a* b***

By PINK-O -ugAYS

November 20, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

The FAN From uga don’t know a good QB if they slept with one. Vick is the problem they say. Georgia REDNECK clue less. Want -to -be powerhouse football team the same Football loserville . you and the bulldogs and Falcons want-to be’s. The coaches are the falcons problem and people getting hurt. UGA Thug sissyville!

By The Original mo

November 20, 2006 09:18 PM | Link to this

I am just posting to say that the other mo is spelled with a Capital ‘M’.

He’s entitled to his own opinions, but his opinions are not mine.

(Just wanted to clear that up!)

By Yari

November 20, 2006 09:55 PM | Link to this

Playoffs? Don’t talk about Playoffs! Playoffs?

By atl

November 20, 2006 10:28 PM | Link to this

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By atl

November 20, 2006 10:31 PM | Link to this

I LOVE THE FALCONS BUT THERE COACH SUCKS AT THIS POINT IM WANTING THEM TO LOOSE SO THEYLL FIRE THERE SUCK A* COACHING STAFF

By Chadberg

November 20, 2006 10:32 PM | Link to this

Every team in this league is a constant work in progress it takes time to get things right. Those two great games that Vick had were visions of the future of the falcons. All you naysayers out there just wait a year maybe two and you’ll see what a great team Rich Mckay and Arthur Blank have put together. Some of the coaching decisions have been a little dumb and the offense does suck and i am totally for a new coordinator but this coaching staff has six games to prove they deserve to remain on the Falcons sideline

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