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By Michael

October 19, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

Does this offense even resemble the West Coast offense? I thought the WC was supposed to be about short (and often) passes to let receivers make plays with the ball. I think we have been sold the Longhorn Coast offense. Vick looked like an amazing passer in the Pro Bowl a few years ago. It’s not that he can’t.

By John R

October 19, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this

Wake up Knapp!

Since you like stealing ideas from college football, I have one word for you, Erk Russell’s Flexbone.

That’s right! Run the effing triple option. Put li’l Mikey, Griffith, Norwood, and Dunn in the backfield together, and use Crumpler as tight end and Leile as the wideout.

Do it! It can’t be any worse then the scheme you’re running now.

By haha

October 19, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

uuh Duh Knapps should have been fired last year! He is the worst point blank!!! Fire him now or watch the season go down in flames!!!!

By P

October 19, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Arthur Blank should have fired him yesterday!! He is terrible!!!!

By Poor McKay

October 19, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

Timing is everything. Knapp needs to go but firing him during the season will only mean that we have a new play caller but the same basic offense. If we promoted Musgrave to OC, he couidn’t re-build the offense during the season. If we hired an external guy (Fassell for example), same problem. Firing Knapp may send a “signal” but it would not do much for the current season.

Let’s bring in Ralphie Fridgin as the OC next season and add John Tenuta as the DC (and no, I’m not a Tech fan). But I bet those guys would maximize the talent on this team.

By JB

October 19, 2006 10:33 AM | Link to this

TWO PROBLEMS : !. VICK 2. OFFENSE LINE WELL THREE……. OFFENSE TOO PLAIN … AND PREDICTABLE………

By A-Town Vet

October 19, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

I think it will take a little more suffering before Knapp is let go mid season. If we do not make the playoffs, I think is is defintely a goner. Excuses for the players or lack there of prototypical players can be made however a good coach will find a way to make the offense effective. I all of knapps tenure we have never seen him call plays for mike vick that were quick slants or outs. Plays that generally get QB’s in a groove. However when schaub plays these type of plays are routinly called. Personally ithick Knapp would prefer to haveSchuab at the helm but he has to realize MV is the guy. He needs to adjust too what he has. Too many Sundays i see passing routes the the falcons never ever try to run. Look at how t.O scored that last touchdown or the touchdown Boldin had on MNF. Both plays were WR motion plays that were quick hitters. Just becasue vick can run don’t make him run all the time. Kanpp needs to develop some new plays quick or he will never be a head coach.

By riggo

October 19, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

our offense consist of some of the ugliest play calling i have seen this year from any team. what’s wrong with short passes & more play action.

By Jeff

October 19, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

The falcons lost 2 games to 2 good teams. They didn’t look good in those two games but no need to panic. Vick is capable of throwing the ball. 1st round draft picks need to be catching the balls if they are anywhere close! We need to get Ashley Lelie the ball more and hit the running backs in the flats from the pocket.

By Pitbull

October 19, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

I think the problem with the Falcons is motivation, and not that pansy motivation that coaches normally use with players. They need real motivation that only a successful businessman like Mr. Blank knows how to provide.

Now there is negative motivation and positive motivation. I suggest that the negative motivation consist of every time the Falcons lose a game, each player must wear one of those full body orange Home Depot aprons on the sideline during the next game.

The positive motivation can consist of every time the Falcons win a game, each player is allowed to kick Jeff Shultz in the a* one time while reading Jeff his prediction of the game from the previous week.

Wouldn’t you play harder and better?

By A-Town Vet

October 19, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this

The WC coast offense was design for QBs with inferior arm strength so the could thrive in the NFL. Everyone is clear that MV does not lack any arm stregth. Second our recievrs are fast , but quick i do not think so. To run short slants and outs our WR’s need to be quick to lose defenders and get open then make plays. All of our recievers are big and fast not quick. Our personel simply does not fit within in the design of knapps offense. He he needs to change the offense or he needs to go.

By JP

October 19, 2006 10:43 AM | Link to this

I think they could fire him but who are they going to get to call the plays then. They should have fixed this problem before this season any way. The offense hasn’t been good for the last couple of years so this just didn’t start.

By A-Town Vet

October 19, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this

Jeff it would be nice to get the RB’s involved in the passing game but htey must stay and help block becuase our line needs as much help as they can get for pass protection.

By jean

October 19, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this

I am absolutely disgusted by these Falcons. What is the matter with them? I actually thought they were gonna win that game & they should have, no excuses. Now they’re up against a tought legit Steeler team & I don’t think they can do it. Greg Knapp is the worst bar none, I said he should have been fired last year but he never will b/c of his friendship with Mora. Not unless Blank leans on him & give him no choice, which he should do. We need to make the most of Vick before his legs fall off & his passing game has never evolved. They will never put Shaub in, not with all of the money they’ve invested in Vick & Shaub couldn’t do anything behind this pathetic O-line anyway. Who cares if we’re the number1 rushing team? It never gets up anywhere. We have way too much talent (some overpriced) on this team to be this bad. Why do we NEVER run playaction? It boggles my mind…I knew we’d miss Finn & WE DO. But we have to use what we have, it should be enough. I see 5-11 looming, I really do. How sad.

By JP

October 19, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Also, what people have to understand is that a good playcaller is the key. I know that this offense can work because it has been ran I know for all of my life. Knapp just is not good at that particular part of his job. I think it should get him fired, but Bill Musgrave aint the answer either. Have you seen how many jobs he’s had over the last few years.

By denver dawg fan

October 19, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

I think that #7s regression from the reeves era says it all. What is replacing the oc gonna hurt at this point? Is it gonna kill our red zone production? Hurt our passing game? ummm no since both are already nonexistant. Make the move arthur.

By e.b.

October 19, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this

Is there truth to the Ed Donatell/ Greg Knapp fight, and did Arthur Blank really have a closed door meeting with the two of them this past week? Come on Mark Bradley, you’re the best we got. Give us info?

By c.s

October 19, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

It is sad to see the falcon offense on sunday. Knapp needs to be fired. Mr. Blank paid for wins, and he is getting bull crap. All that talent on this team. Micheal Vick needs to go in the tape room and learn to read defenses because this is the reason Knapp offense is not working. The plays are there, but he cannot read defenses to make them. It is Knapp and his staff duty to make sure he learns and if MV do not want to learn sit him on the bench. The Giants are not a good team and you lost to them is sad

By carlaven

October 19, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this

We are fooling ourselves folks. Blank and co . do not read this stuff !!The offensive line is just that …..offensive. The mentality that prevails in insisting that a 6 ft,speedy halfback ,who can throw -I did not say connect- is your answer . When you can not see thru oncoming linemen I would think you would roll your qb out. But , heck I am not a PRO FOOTBALL COACH SO WHAT DO i KNOW ..

By CJ2

October 19, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

I hope everyone feels better turning Knapp into the whipping boy.

Everyone talks about Vick when he played for Reeves like he was freaking Dan Fouts. He had a few better games here and there, but he was still a below average passer.

Vick isn’t a great passer, but he is a good quarterback- by good, I mean slighty better than average- because of his running abilities. It is time for the organization to take his training wheels off and hold him accountable.

Also, Blank better be in McKay’s face about:

1) Jenkins and White- 1st round flops

2) buying into an Oline philosophy that is all about petite linemen and finesse- freaking college football division II standards.

By PLEASE ARTHUR!!!!

October 19, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

Fire Knapp already!! He sux and he is killing the potential for us to be dangerous. He keeps calling the same plays over and over. why don’t we send guys in motion, WR screen, HB screen, Play -Action, Bootleg MV& out of the pocket last week when he was getiing mauled, short throws, go deep more than once in a game, spread the field!!!!! Knapp can simply not adjust to a defense, nor call a game. we have some of the best athletes in the NFL and all we do is run the same run play. I know since all of us fans see what is going on and how to correct it, that you Knapp surely could do something, but I guess that says something about your capabilities

And you Donatell!! I hope you got your A$$ chewed by blank, god i hope so!!! You , You, YOu lost that game for us just as much as Knapp. In the 1st half you had the defense in the right plays, but just because we are up 11 with 12 minutes to go in the 2nd half does not mean call offf the dogs. How could you after seeing how the Giants played in the 2nd half against philly and Seattle. you just let our guys get shredded. we had half of our d-line injured so u knew we were not going to get pressure—-why didn’t you blitz you moron.

FIRE THEM BLANK__YOUR”E GIVING THOSE NO GOOD CO’S A BLANK CHECK>> FIRE THEM AND PUT A BLANK LOOK ON THERE FACE. PLEASE BE SMART

By John

October 19, 2006 11:39 AM | Link to this

Falcon need a head coach and quarterback. Jim Mora is like his dad never could get the job done. Vick equal running back or WR not a QB

By P

October 19, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

we dont pass the ball, we dont blitz the opposing QB. We play Blitzberg steelers on sunday. Recipe for disaster!!!!

By concerned

October 19, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

The Michael Vick ride is over. Look at Phillip Rivers. They stop playing Marty-Ball and let him air it out. It is time to part ways with Michael Vick. His besdt seasons are behind him(The NFC Championship Game and the win at Green Bay). It time to put Matt Shaub in there. He is the only one that can save Knapp. Vick has all the talent in the world but can’t put it together. McNabb has a no cast of receivers and still is putting up MVP numbers. It is time to part ways with Vick. Lets try to move him now!!!

By Boogie

October 19, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

Here is the deal! Vick at H-back Schaub at QB. Lelie at wideout and White to the bench or bricks. Draws to Vick and Dunn. Dumb passes to Vick and Dunn and bombs to Lelie.

Bartkowski to OC.

By br

October 19, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

In a word…YES

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

If you fire anyone, fire everyone, from McKay to Vick. They all suck. McKay needs to be fire for not filling in the team’s need in the off season. Speedy players are nice, but when you get man handle, then you need some studs to protect the speedy. You need fast stud linebackers, not weak speedy linebackers to take on blocks! Mora needs to be fire because he’s too friendly with his employees. When your employee is not productive, either you issue a strong warning or fire them. Not Mora, he jokes and smile, like he has no care in the world. Once Mora is fire, then the staff is fire too. Fire the strength coach, because these players are weak. Fire or demote Vick. He is the most cryiest QB/football player ever in football history. 1st, let me run, then it’s let me pass! Man, just shut up and try your best without b*** about. Move him the slot and let him see if he can catch better than his teammates, use him like the Saints use Reggie Bush. These team needs a major overhaul. They are too spoiled by Blank. They need to move their training camp to a small college where the eviroment dont cater to their ego’s. I have been suggesting this for three years now. I just know, if the Crows want to make it to the Superbowl, they need to make some major changes. The best option is for Blank is to sell the team who knows something about football. His major mistakes were firing Reeves, hiring McKay and Mora, letting Gibbs go, building that big complex to spoil his weak players, babying Vick on the sidelines and worst, dont say a damn thing when things are going smotthly. WAKE UP BLAKE AND START PUTTING YOUR FOOT DOWN!

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

all fans just read on falcons home page what mr mora says in news conf about claybo starting at guard quote if he can move legs pick up feet he will be fine in blocking for the run. so there it is mora not even concerned about pass blocking or ability to block the blitz gonna be long day when they put 9 in box shut down run then they blitz us to death. in reading mora you can get the picture that all is well so he thinks there is no problems just little things we all know its REAL BIG THINGS and that would spell out yes we as falcons fans will watch in utter digust knowing we have better team than the coaches calling plays talent on our team is not the problem. talent at coaching spots is our only real problem player do as they are coached if all my recievers were dropping passes well thats coaching to train and find reason thats happening alge did not get brick hands last yr .we got best wr for yds a catch in nfl sitting on sideline wanting to play thats back to coaches why not play him? i dont think that these coaches know how to use our pro bowl talent at hand thats on both sides of the ball other nfl coaches would love to have our players am sure that they also are shaking there heads happy to have us playing there team this yr scary very scary chance to beat any team any time just no coaches to guide us you can only fault players so much then its back to top and coaches just ask arizona and ravens owners headcoaches now they both have clue to fix there probs and acted very quick on the problem we as team dont even adj at half our fix will be very slow if at all

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

If you fire anyone, fire everyone, from McKay to Vick. They all suck. McKay needs to be fire for not filling in the team’s need in the off season. Speedy players are nice, but when you get man handle, then you need some studs to protect the speedy. You need fast stud linebackers, not weak speedy linebackers to take on blocks! Mora needs to be fire because he’s too friendly with his employees. When your employee is not productive, either you issue a strong warning or fire them. Not Mora, he jokes and smile, like he has no care in the world. Once Mora is fire, then the staff is fire too. Fire the strength coach, because these players are weak. Fire or demote Vick. He is the most cryiest QB/football player ever in football history. 1st, let me run, then it’s let me pass! Man, just shut up and try your best without b*** about. Move him the slot and let him see if he can catch better than his teammates, use him like the Saints use Reggie Bush. This team needs a major overhaul. They are too spoiled by Blank. They need to move their training camp to a small college where the eviroment dont cater to their ego’s. I have been suggesting this for three years now. I just know, if the Crows want to make it to the Superbowl, they need to make some major changes. The best option is for Blank is to sell the team who knows something about football. His major mistakes were firing Reeves, hiring McKay and Mora, letting Gibbs go, building that big complex to spoil his weak players, babying Vick on the sidelines and worst, dont say a damn thing when things are not going smoothly. WAKE UP BLAKE AND START PUTTING YOUR FOOT DOWN!

By Kudzu

October 19, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Part ways with Vick. The guy is not smart enough to play this position. Is there anyone in the Falcons organization smart enough to realize this? Stop with all the hero worship Blank?Mora, the guy is a dud of a QB.

The sadder part, this season will be lost, then we’ll rebuild for three more years…with new coaches…meanwhile Vick will be out of the league smoking up his 100 million.

A real freak show…

What really needs to happen is about 40,000 not show up for this Sunday’s butt whipping…that would get Mr. Blanks attention.

But all the Vicklovers will continue to walk the party line and sing the same old tune, holding out hope for #7, their savior, their feel good story. Good grief!

There are many good and decent players on this Falcon team, but no leader…

By P

October 19, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

Get rid of Mike Vick??? that’s a pipe dream. His only 26yrs old and they got tons of money invested in him !!! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!

By A-Town Vet

October 19, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

To all the vick haters Would you say Steve Mcnair is a horriblke QB. The Ravens O is truglle just like the falcons however they have a Co-MVP player at the QB positon. For as long as we all know the Ravens offense has never been anything to marvel at. However it is a good example of how a coaching staff can enable higly productive players in other systems ineffective because of their resistance to change. Coaching is what is hammpering our birds, not the players so please stop downing vick. Really the man man not be pinpoint accurate but how many QB’s have had three plus sure TD dropped by Wide recievers our offensive coordinators who call play action rollouts to the opposite side of their QB’s throwing arm leading to an interception on the one yard line. Sure Vick could have thrown and should have thrown that pass away in the cardinals game but he should have never been put in that position.

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this

its all coaches folks we got pro bowl players on both sides of the ball and no one seems to know how to use them our players could go play on any nfl tem and be great that comes from knowing where and how to use them . how many nfl coaches see lelie,vick,crump,norwood,dunn and think if i had those guys in my offense we would have one of the best off teams in nfl. we have them and cant even score a td been in redzone more times than most teams and settle for 3 our pro bowl player this yr will be oldest player in nfl go morten hope he gets the records this yr at least we got chance to put 1 player in pro bowl its sad we all know we got good team just no coaches to game plan for a win

By Carlos

October 19, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

We gave Knapp apmple time to develop this offense. It is obvious the offense is going in the wrong direction. The passing offense is currently # 32 in the NFL = Worse in the NFL. We cannot afford to wait another year of failure before Knapp is fired. Blank should act now and fire Knapp. Musgrave can be promoted to intrerim offensive coordinator. Please Arthur do what is best for the Falcons ans fire Knapp.

By hop

October 19, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

the problem is not knapp!!!!!

he does not throw the ball nor run it or block ,he calls the plays but it is up to the players to execute the plays successfully.

vick is not a good qb, a great athlete that should be a reggie bush type player used at running back and wide receiver.

it is time for the falcons to wake up to the fact that vick is degressing and fallen behind even the much younger qb’s in the nfl e.g. rivers,grossman, manning to name a few.

there is enough talent to win but it starts with the qb and he has to be a leader and vick is far from that.

By P

October 19, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Big ben and Mike Vick rank 1 and 2 in Jersey sales in the NFL. Now what succesful business man would get rid of such an investment!!!!

By Nick

October 19, 2006 12:33 PM | Link to this

Knapp and Vick obviously are not working together and one has to leave. Mike is our franchise and if he can’t perform this offense then we need to get another coordinator in here. Also Jenkins and White are subpar recievers right now. Lelie is a proven guy and he needs to be starting at the very least. Crumpler needs to go to ball catching class and Vick needs to learn how to hold on to the football. If our offense gets things corrected then our defense is going to look dominate like we did in Carolina during the first game.

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

A-TOWN VET. STOP PROTECTING VICK. HE SUCKS! POCKET PASS, OPTION PASS, BOOTLEG PASS, PLAY ACTION. NO MATTER WHAT IS DRAWN UP FOR HIM, VICK SUCKS! HE’S AN AWESOME RUNNER AND A GREAT CRYBABY! $100 MILLION CRYBABY! PS DONT COMPARE MCNAIR W/ VICK. MCNAIR HAS MORE HEART, BRAINS AND A BETTER ARM! MCNAIR LOOK WAY BETTER NOW PLAYING TERRIBLE THAN VICK WHEN HE’S ON HIS GAME! IF VICK HAD A MAJOR KNEE PROBLEM, HE BE LOOKING MORE LIKE CULPEPPER! VICK’S PUNK! HE LOST ME THIS SEASON WHEN THREW THAT INT IN THE REDZONE VS THE CARDS, AND HE LET THE DUDE RUN RIGHT BY HIM FOR A 100 YARD RETURN TD. WHERE WERE ALL THAT RUNNING SPEED HE USED TO RUN AWAY FROM DEFENDERS? HE COULD HAVE EASILY RAN HIM DOWN, HE GAVE UP ON HIS TEAM AND POINTING FINGERS ON HIS TEAMMATES AND COACHES! HE’S A $100 MILLION PUNK DRESS IN BLACK! I RATHER HAVE MARCUS VICK, THEN MIKE! RON MEXICO MUST GO!

By Rod

October 19, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

Gee, thanks Mark - you really blew it for us.

Of course Knapp needs to go. However, Blank and Mora wouldn’t fire him now if they had to. Neither believes in doing anything the fans/media want them to.

If they were about to fire him - they just changed their minds thanks to your blog.

By P

October 19, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

ALL U VICK HATERS GET ON YOUR JOB. AS I SAID HE IS AN INVESTMENT AND ARTHUR BLANK IS GETTING PAID ALL THE WAY 2 THE BANK. THE NFL IS A BUSINESS, MR BLANK BOUGHT THE FALCONS 2 MAKE A PROFIT. VICK BRINGS HIM THE PROFIT. CASH RULES EVERYTHING THAT’S AROUND ….DEAL WITH IT . IT IS WHAT IT IS!!!!

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

knapp is not the problem. where’s jeff gracia? he made Jeff look pro bowl qb! I know he had T.O. to throw too, but it worked! Lelie couldnt hold Rod Smith jock in Denver! And the Crows had a chance to get T.O.
Who cares if Vick’s jeresy is rank #2 in sales! He keep it up, it’ll be number one from Crow fans buying it and burning it in protest! And besides, Blank is getting a shared revenue on Vick’s Jersey sales. The share cant equal or be more than Vick’s paycheck. You’ll make more money with a Superbowl team, than a average team with a overpaid player! Michael Vick experience sucks. It’s a new ride now. You’re in the ride chair, line up outside, and hitting Vick blindside. The ride last no longer than three seconds and cost $100 million. I rather spend $50 to see fish swim in a tank then watch Vick!

By Russ Brock

October 19, 2006 12:58 PM | Link to this

What really ticks me off is the lack of swing passes and screens to get Dunn and Norwood into open space to untilize their speed and vision. However, the main problem is Vick’s inability to read defenses or find secondary receivers. Sadly, Knapp probably will be sacrificed to protect Blank’s precious golden calf but eventually Vick will be exposed to be just that, a glittery idol with no power to get the Falcons anything but better draft choices. Give Schaub a chance to run the same offense and see how far the Falcons will fly.

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this

P, get on your job! You going to lose money if your team keep losing and no one shows up to see your $100 million investment at work! Like you said, it’s a business, and once you stop going to a crows game, Blank will lose money and his business plan will change. No wins, no profit, new rules! FYI, I dont hate on Vick, he just sucks!

By Scott

October 19, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

I’m tired of the excuses. The offense just need to do a better job of making plays. Receivers are dropping too many passes and the need to be called out and held accountable. Vick’s completion percentage would be a lot higher this season were it not for dropped passes. Crump is guilty as well. We can count on him for 3 - 4 drops per game. Pathetic.

Vick is not the problem. He makes some bad throws, true, but so does Peyton Manning. QBs have to try and make a play but the rely on the receiver on the other end to make a play as well. Our WRs need to step up or they should be sent packing.

Knapp is pathetic as well. To passive when he should be aggressive and no backbone to stand up to players. That video of him just sitting there and looking at T.O. while TO yelled at him in SF says it all. I would have broken my clipboard over T.O.s head. If we don’t get better production this week, Knapp must go now!!!!

If Knapp doesn’t go, Mora should, along with the rest of his cronies!!!!

Scott.

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

Vick in the sporting news crying I want to throw more, why cant I call my own plays and have more control of the offence, like Brady and Manning? Because you suck!

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 01:20 PM | Link to this

I just know this, every year everyone wants to blame the O-line and wr’s. The crows paid for one wr a couple years ago and got rid of him. Drafted two 1st rounders. Traded for a 1st rounder who hardly catches TD’s and was jealous over another wr coming to take his job! O-line blocks for one of the best rushing team in the league. Pass block on most plays that rolls Vick out! Vick needs to be blame, Im sorry!

By lamar henderson

October 19, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

its not vick,its the west coast offense.vick does not fit that offense.put vick in dallas,pittsburgh,new england offense and he is in the pro bowl.when reeves was coach ,he had better numbers because the offense fit him better.if knapp does that,change offenses,he could look like a hero…

By GR

October 19, 2006 01:22 PM | Link to this

The problem is Knapp, which means the problem is Jim Mora, Jr. What has he done to keep his job? He went to the NFC with Dan Reeves team (discipline). We all know it. The guy is pathetic. He is a hothead, just like his dad and incapable of leading a young team.

For all of the people bashing Michael Vick, he did throw for nearly 3000 yards at the age of 21. Of course, he had a real NFL coach leading his team. I have heard that Mike did not like Dan Reeves. I bet he likes Dan Reeves now.

The Falcons could have hired Marvin Lewis (see Cincinnati) or Lovie Smith (see Chicago, who won 13 games last season with back up quarterbacks). For Mora and his staff to fail with Vick displays their inability to be successful at this level. Frankly, I was unaware that Mora was even considered a successful coordinator. Then, he hired a crew of washed up coordinators.

Reeves has already shown that Vick can succeed with a strong coach. We need a guy that will help Vick become the star that he is (heck, hold the ball properly, stop fumbling, and play with some discipline). We need a coach that will not accept 1st round draft pick receivers constantly dropping passes (clowns Roddy White and Michael Jenkins have dropped TD passes this season). We need a coach that will make All-Pro’s, like Alge Crumpler get into and stay in shape after signing a big contract (the New Oeleans play changed the complexion of the game). We basically need a coach that will make his players respect the game. Jim Mora, Jr. is the opposite of that. Everyone knows it.

I say give Mora his pink slip…give Knapp his pink slip. Their are real coaches just sitting around the house. Our offense is pathetic and Mora’s whining is sickening. Word out of San Diego is Marty wants out. After Parcells is done in Dallas (this season if the Cowboys do not reach the playoffs), he will be available. Blank can always do back and cry to Reeves. There are real winners and options out there.

By David

October 19, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter one iota who the head Coach or OC is. Vick is the problem,Falcons will never see the post-season again as long as Vick is the starting QB.

Vick is the problem,nothing more,nothing less.

By RichFalcon

October 19, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

How ‘bout bring Dan Reeves back as offensive coordinator. Vick, Dunn, & Alge already know that system and thrived in it before. Feasible or not, new OC could mean new system, which means back to the drawing board.

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

uh, Lamar, option pass is not west coast!

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

its coaches job to get production from players, its coaches job to formatt game plan for players to produce ,yes its true they can not block or catch on game day they are the ones that should make needed changes during games to stop drops no changes no chance GO READ HOME PAGE RIGHT NOW!!! mora tells all about what he plans to change NOTHING YES NOTHING!! SO THERE IT IS FOLKS jim does not see we have a problem so sunday same ol same with 7 sack 8 drops best players watching from side line as we get @$$ beat by last yrs champs pitt can be beat but we do not have coaches to do it. any fan knows we got talent on both sides of ball to win how do we as fans get coaches to make these changes? how do we as fans get mora to play players that need to be on field to win . how do we get mr knapp to draw up game plan to score points? if players dont believe in coaches what then? HEY BLOGGERS PLEASE STOP WITH THE WHITE QB BLACK QB THING yes it would be cool to see knapp put both in game at same time ya know pitts def cord did not game plan for that as long as coaches have blinders on and think there in not any MAJOR PROBLEMS then yes will be long and sad 2006. lets hope some one on this staff wakes up from this dream and grows som nutts to make NEEDED CHANGES IN 2006

By mark

October 19, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Two words: Detroit Lions! How many 1st round picks did they use on WRs and look what it got them! NOTHING!!! They cut 2 out of the 3 because they weren’t producing!! Michael Vick will never win a Super Bowl as long as his legs are more productive than his arm!

By skippy

October 19, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

The offensive coordinator is only a little part of the problem with the Falcons. All the coaches should be fired starting with Mora. Or, trade Vic and get a quarterback that can play whatever system it is that the coaching staff is trying to play. I sure am glad to be a New England Patriots fan. At least the Patriots coaching staff knows how to get 125% or more out of players with a lot less pocketbook and talent. The Falcons, especially their coaches really stink. I am amazed that Blanc puts up with it.

By nativefalcon

October 19, 2006 01:39 PM | Link to this

What gets me is when Reeves was here, Vick was a descent passer, not great, descent. Now with Knapp, he forced Vick into a offense, that cannot let Vick be Vick. Reeves said he set up his offense to play to the strengths of Vick. Knapp has always tried to force Vick into being a 49er type QB, which he definatly isn’t and Knapp is way to predictable and needs to go.

By fedup

October 19, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

u dumb sh*ts..vick isnt built like a running back ,fullback..enuf of vick as rb or fb..put him in as WR!..start shaub and dj as back up dj is far better qb than MV

By Come now

October 19, 2006 01:43 PM | Link to this

I can see why people are so against Vick. I would be afraid of him too when you consider his accomplishments. I’d rather have a player that is able to do something no other QB in the league can do; and use that to my advantage. To the contrary, you can keep the “Rex Grossman” type QB’s who claim to be good passers while stinking up the place while the defense wins the game. Everyone’s out looking for one hero or one goat. Say anything you wish about Vick; everyone know’s he’s not the goat. But jackasses wouldn’t understand this.

By DA_VET

October 19, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Mike Sucks, Let’s put everything in perspective. Fix the O-line,get one proven receiver, and good offensive play-calling. If Vick fails, then by all means ship him out. Mcnabb may not have had above average receivers but they got open and caught the ball. Oh and I don’t ever recall him running for his life either. You name another QB that has had better success throwing the ball under Vicks’ conditions. Matter of fact put Manning behind that line with those receivers and he’ll have the leagues worst passer rating because he won’t be able to avoid the pressure(Pittsburg! last years’ playoffs)

By Michael

October 19, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Mark Bradley, You know that Knapp a$$ should’ve been fired last year! This guy is sabotaging Vick career! Under coaching regime, the guy could throw any pass that was required! But now people get on the blogs and act as though they was QB’s in the NFL! Farve, Elway, & others threw or throw the ball too their receivers hard, high, low, behind,and front of them. Their receivers adjust too the ball and catch them. Especially when it hit them in the hand! The coaches don’t put the right players on the field because of this stupid loyalty mess! That’s why you got Webster, White, & Brooking still on the field. Coaches who don’t dictate attack & destroy when other teams come here! That why you got guys like Burress, Pierce, ex-team mates, come here and disrespect this team and this wonderful beautiful city! When teams come here they should be Damn! We got go too Atlanta! I hate going into that hostile environment! I can remember when the dome would be empty! Other team fans whould dominate the dome! All this ended when Vick took control of the Offense! And made this team a playoff contender, the city an NFL power! And now the guys talents all with others are now being put in jepordy because of an unproven Coordinator & Coach! Who did the samething out in San Fran, with the same good talented players they had when they was on that staff! You got too fire Knapp, there is no way around it! I say give Coach Sherman a call and make Asst. Head Coach/ Offensive Coordinator a great offensive mind who gets the out of his players!!! I don’t give a damn about what he did too Donatell! The way that defense played last sunday is proof why his firing from Green Bay was justified!!!!

By ButHe'sGood4JerseySales

October 19, 2006 01:50 PM | Link to this

Vick is the problem. As an example, watch him and the way he carries himself between plays. Head hung low, walking off the field at 0.5 MPH. He looks like he’s bored and doesn’t act like a winner, much less like he’s giving 100%. It may sound cheesy, but that’s not the way a champion carries himself.

By mountain_jim

October 19, 2006 01:52 PM | Link to this

I just learned that Vick does not even have the option of audible-ing out of the plays, nor does Schaub or anyone for this team.

Why the Hell not?

What was Knapp doing all offseason and traning camp? During the bye-week? Audibles should have been put in a long time ago.

If he thinks Vick can’t do that, put in Schaub, but damn, the QB has to be able to call and change plays on the fly.

No wonder we waste so many time-outs!

Between that inflexibility and the pityful playcalling, Knapp should have been gone yesterday. I bet Musgrave can call a much better game. Then get rid of Gibbs and start drafting some decent pass-blocking oline next year.

Some one else besides McKay needs to decide on our next receivers. The Tampa fans were right - he can’t draft a decent reciever for nothing!

*And whose decision is it not to start and use Lelie? Fire him too if its not Knapp! *

By Tripp

October 19, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see Inside The NFL this week? Interview with Vick shows he wants to pass more but he is forcing the run and getting pummeled for it. He is not being allowed to call his own plays as 99% of the other qb’s with his experience are getting to do. He needs to be given that opportunity to grow. McNabb started the same way and is now a phenomenal QB who doesn’t have to run as much - but can when necessary. This (and more concentration from butter-fingered receivers) is what Vick needs to improve as a quarterback.

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

HOW LONG WILL MR BLANK PUT UP WITH THIS MESS? I AM SURE HE SEE WHAT WE DO QUESTION IS HOW LONG? NEXT YR? NOW? HE DID NOT LOOK PLEASED AFTER GAME LAST WEEK. HAVE READ THERE WAS MAJOR MEETINGS THIS WEEK COACHES CALLED TO THE OFFICE FEEL THAT POOR SHOWING AND NO CHANGES OF GAME PLAN ON BOTH SIDES OF BALL WILL RESULT IN CHANGE LETS HOPE!!!

By lee sunset

October 19, 2006 02:11 PM | Link to this

Last time Falcons played Pittsburgh was 2002. Played at Pitt against a pretty good team and Vick brought Falcons back from something like a 17 point second-half deficit for a 34-34 tie. Vick had mediocre receivers then and passed for 294 yards and ran for 52 more in that game. This Falcons team undoubtedly has more talent than 2002 team. Gee, think it might be the system? If offense has another bad day I’m willing to bet Knapp is gone this time next week.

By 33Falc

October 19, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this

I want to pose a question for those who want to get rid of Vick….would you want to play AGAINST him twice a year?

By falcon guy

October 19, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

It’s the play calling, dummy!! There is a great example of how making a change in the playcaller can make for immediate impact, just across town. Georgia Tech. Gailey was an old school type of offensive guy, conservative. He handed his play calling duties to Pat Nix, a younger guy who has spent time looking a new offensive philosophies and implemented them on the Flats. And the results are very pleasing. GT’s scoring output is up about 10 points per game over last season. The Falcons need new blood, someone who can take the players they have and get maximum output. There is talent on the roster, they just aren’t using them effectively.

By CQ

October 19, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

Vick is making the team Millions as well as the NFL, theres no way he will sit on the bench unless he’s hurt. How many fans would come to the dome to see Shawb play? not many? “can we say back to the TV blackout days”. Vick and Reggie Bush make their team’s more money than we will ever know and both are having below average seasons.

By cp

October 19, 2006 02:31 PM | Link to this

Do some of you really watch the games or just highlights and the stats at the end of the games. Vick is not very accurate but gotdam the wr’s have to catch the ball. What more can a qb do if he throws the ball and it hits the reciever in the hands. They have to catch the damn ball. The coaching staff is the problem. They make no type of adjustments what so ever. We don’t BLITZ on defense. We throw the ball deep maybe twice a game and if it’s to anybody other than Lelie its dropped. I don’t know if there is a stat for drops a game but if it is i know the Falcons lead in that department hands down. I bet you the Falcons average almost 5 drops a game. How accurate can a qb be if his players drop that many balls a game. Every game I have watched this season the announcers say the same thing ”The reciever has to make that play” or ”the recievers are not getting open”. Game after game it’s the same thing but for some reason some of these i hate Vick bloggers dont want to admit it. I even read one blog where the guy said its Vick’s fault the recievers are dropping the balls. ARE YOU F*** KIDDING ME. How is it his fault they drop the balls. Can we please change up the playcalling. Game by game i can damn near call out what play is being ran before they actually call it. If I can guess what play is called what do you expect from teams that acutally get paid to know. I have faith in this team but it’s going to be a long season if things like drops and predictable play calling continue. Sunday is going to be a tough game because the Steelers do something the Falcons don’t do, they BLITZ and the o line sucks.

By cp

October 19, 2006 02:35 PM | Link to this

I also have to ask two questions. Why in the world is Lelie not starting over Roddy White? Why is Jimmy Williams not starting over Jason Webster? This coaching staff just does not get it.

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

DA_VET I understand where you’re coming from, but Vick had his chances! You are claiming the 0-line needs fixing, so he’s running for his life, if not, he takes a good licking! He’s crying now that he wants to pass more! So that tells me he has fear in his heart!
And to name a better QB under Vick’s conditions, and that’ll be a bad O-line, no proven receiver, and ok offensive play-calling! Um,.. This season, I name two for you! Jon Kitna and J.P. Losman! Neither have a proven wr this year w/ same amount of sacks w/ Vick!
Vick could be the greatest if he was smart enough to read def, know when, where, how to throw, to throw the ball away, when to take advantage on how the NFL protect QB’s! He’s a fast, lost in the mind Mcdabb! If he just sit down and watch videos of Mcdabb’s games, he might have a chance! BUT HOW LONG SHOULD WE WAIT!

By Edward

October 19, 2006 02:38 PM | Link to this

Who called that Ma Fa a Offensive Coordinator??????

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 02:40 PM | Link to this

Hey ButHe’sGood4JerseySales, I 2nd in motion on your statement!

By Casey Smallwood

October 19, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

I was one of the biggest Mike Vick supporters and have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but I done giving him a pass. All he is is a great athlete with ridiculous speed, a great arm, and no touch or accuracy. They have simplified the offense as much as they can for this guy and he still doesn’t get it. I heard an interview with Chris Carter and he said that he was in the same league with Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Donavan McNabb……..What? If the entire defense showed blitz Vick would not be able to read it and call an audible. He would snap the ball and try to outrun the whole defense to the sideline and fumble, throw a pick, or get sacked. He likes to throw his recievers/offensivce coordinator/ offensive line under the bus when ever he gets a chance and I am sick of it. Hey Mike…why don’t you lay off the POT, learn the offense, and look in the mirror every now and then!!!!!

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this

Hey 33Falc, With the Crows abitlity to rush and cover against a below average QB, Heck yea, I’ll play him twice a year! I see Car, TB, and NO dont have a problem! I know TB is sorry this year, but they own Vick during his career!

By tspec

October 19, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

At least Matt Fraud is on the Sidelines, the way the Giants played he would have been out for the season, if they got to Vick they would have ripped Lead Foot Fraudd to pieces. Please Fire Mora and Knapp, Dan Reeves would’ve had these Falcons at 4-1…..

By tspec

October 19, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

www.firejimmora.com

By DA_VET

October 19, 2006 03:06 PM | Link to this

Mike Sucks, What are those guys’ records? Kitna(1-5),Losman(2-4). You have got to do better than that. Maybe I should’ve have emphasized “GOOD QB’s.” Both even have legit receivers(Roy Williams,Lee Evans). He can also read defenses. Stack 8 in a box and the receivers still can’t get open, HMMM maybe I should run again. You don’t win many games without reading defenses. I remember him bringing the team back against the same Pittsburg 3-4 which Manning struggled against last year. If he is one of the best at reading defenses…..Again start with play-calling and the ability to audible.

By Falconsbeliever

October 19, 2006 03:15 PM | Link to this

Knapp has to go!!

Many of you seem to realize that Vick had much better success passing under Reeves. But do you all realize who his WR’s were? They were Quentin McCord and Trevor Gaylor.

Now, I know Roddy White and Michael Jenkins are not great, but they are better than McCord and Gaylor, that’s for sure. If Vick can have such success with those, guys, shouldn’t he be able to have the same success with White nad Jenkins. The only explanation is coaching.

In addition, Warrick Dunn had 50 receptions the year he played with Vick, and Dan Reeves was here. Dunn hasn’t caught more than 37 passes since Mora and Knapp took over.

For Mora/Knapp to say Dunn is needed to pass block is ridiculous, particularly since Vick was sacked seven times last week, and has been sacked more times this season than any other QB.

Mora and Knapp’s failure to throw passes to Dunn and Norwood out of the backfield is inexcusable. They should be fired.

By Eric

October 19, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this

What they need to do DESPERATELY is use Jerious Norwood more. The guy is a flat-out, stone-cold homerun hitter, who can (and has) inject some life into this offense. EVERY TIME he’s in there, he makes something happen. But the problem is that Mora and Knapp won’t use him when they’re behind. That’s insane! They should use him even more when they’re behind. Don’t get me wrong, Dunn is great. He’s shifty, knows how to use his blockers and make his cuts, and can easily pick up 5 or 6 yards a pop. And, yes, occasionally he’ll break off a big one. But Norwood’s picking up bigger average chunks that that, and he clearly has a much better chance of breaking off a big one than Dunn. And when you’re behind, especially when you’re way behind, you need big plays, not 5 or 6 yards a pop. PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, GET NORWOOD IN THE GAME FOR AT LEAST 10 TOUCHES A GAME! He should be getting a minimum of 10 touches a game just based on his potential alone. If it were me, I’d probably be giving him close to half the touches. Who cares if he’s a rookie? Has he done anything to prove he can’t do the job. It seems to me that he’s proven himself when given the opportunity. So how ‘bout some more opportunities?

The other main problem with the Falcons (or rather their coaching staff) is on the road. They are not only conservative on offense, but they are WOEFULLY conservative on defense. Why change the aggressive, smothering, blitzing style that works at home. Just look at the Saints game. They totally laid down and did nothing. I think I saw one or two honest “attacks” the whole game, and even then, not until it was too late.

This is a team built for aggressiveness. Why train the dogs if you’re not gonna let them hunt? BE AGGRESSIVE!

By lee sunset

October 19, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

Let Vick run no huddle/2 minute offense so defense can’t substitute as easily and he keeps them on their heels. Plus he does better when he doesn’t think too much and is allowed to get into a rythm.

Only concern is a quick three and out can wear on the D…

By Dennis

October 19, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

Yep, sack him.

By honest_abe

October 19, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

tspec……i can understand your frustration with the vick bashers however why take shots at matt schaub? he hasnt’ done anything to deserve any criticsm… and as much as i like mike vick and his game…and don’t think there’s any way in hell he should be benched…that doesn’t mean we know for a fact that matt schaub would be a complete wreck out there… who know’s he just might be the saviour everyone is looking for…the possibility is there.

By Eric

October 19, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

Here’s another one for you. When the Falcons are behind and are having to pass a lot, why not put in Schaub? He’s the passer, Vick’s the runner. It’s pretty simple. You control the game with Vick unless/until he fumbles things away, then stick in Schaub. Since Vick has been the guy, I don’t remember him ever leading any kind of meaningful comeback. Does anyone else? I don’t think he can do it. If anyone knows, please let me know. Meanwhile, I’m going to do some research on that subject.

By mo

October 19, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

Gregg Knapp needs to stay until next year. The season is still new, but he is on a short leash, I think.

If things doesn’t improve, you need to get an OC with a great vision for Mike Vick. You need someone who can revitalize the offensive scheme.

And you need a clutch receiver. Perhaps Roddy White could get better or Finneran will feel better.

See, Vick is Vick. He’s not very accurate, but he can hit his targets. He’s better on the run than in the pocket. He’s the kind of guy that needs to get hit in order to wipe away any goosebumps that is left from the locker room. That’s cool.

But we need an OC that can utilize Vick’s arm strength and running ability. You need to run more big passes, but also a lot of hooks and less slants. Your best clutch receiver needs to line up on the left side and your big play receiver needs to be at the right. Vick is very strong and he can throw bombs across his body and across the field.

Let me continue with this thought: If you have a speedy person at the right and there’s a step ahead of the DB, even if that DB gets help, it will be difficult for the DBs to make a play on the ball if it goes over the left shoulder of the WR.

Now, the WR’s motion to the ball will automaticaly shield the play from protection, and the WR will almost always be the person with the best percentage of making a reception. This works especially in the end zone.

Now, as far as the QB scramble, I would put my clutch receiver there to bail out Vick when he goes left. On the right, I would put Crumpler and you can switch them. If you put both of them there, it will be easier for Vick to go through his checkdowns, because they will all be in his natural line of sight.

(Maybe I should be OC. Mr. Blank, where do I fill out an application)

By lee sunset

October 19, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

Right on, Falconsbeliever. Record for most receptions in a season is by Roger Craig, a RUNNING BACK in West Coast Offense. Dunn is not being utilized fully - he can catch the ball and be an outlet (I’ve seen Vick be able to dump it to Dunn once this season - very effective play against Tampa Bay). One minute the coaches say we do have the West Coast offense and then we don’t. I don’t know what it is but it’s not working. Did anyone notice in the Giants game that (I don’t recall) we ever got into the Red Zone? I went to the game and then watched it on Tivo (painful second half) and we got as close as the 20 1/2 yard line during the first half. Vick’s run was 22 yards and Dunn’s obviously 90. That’s pretty damn sad.

By Jrmarch

October 19, 2006 03:54 PM | Link to this

It’s time to let Knapp go…He may be the worse NFL OC I’ve ever seen…All OC’s have some sort of a Game Plan or idea of what they want to do….Knapp’s offense is total disorganization…

By falcondawg

October 19, 2006 04:01 PM | Link to this

A good example of how poorly the Birds are coached is evident every time Vick runs with the ball. If I were his coach, I’d fine him every time he fumbles if he doesn’t tuck that ball away. A football novice knows this is necessary. Moron and company obviously don’t want to anger him so they let him continue to give away games. I’m willing to allow one more year for Vick under a new OC but they need to start Lelie, throw more screens, more play action and use that option very sparingly.

By Mike Sucks

October 19, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

DaVet Evans and Williams are good, but yet proven! A proven player is a player who earn a couple of pro bowls, like Crumpler! And if Mike, a pro bowl player who earn that spot one time, keep this act up, he’ll have losing records like Kitna and Losman. Yea, since youre going in history, I remember Vick getting waxed by KC, the worst def in the league for years. Did he score by running or passing? I could read they were blitzing blindfolded! OK. Say he can read, he dont have the mind to execute when it comes to passing! He’s a panic attack under pressure! Then when he runs or feel like he’s about to get hit, he dont secure the ball. I can go on and on about Vick flaws, it dont out weigh the flaws of others. VINCE YOUNG looks better than Vick!

By Darrin "The Vent King"

October 19, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

Dude, YOU’RE RANKED #32- do us all a favor and just quit. What does a guy have to do to get canned? I wish I could finished rated DEAD last at my job and keep it. Trying to protect one of the most atheletically gifted (perceivably fragile)QB’s ever with a line that is the lightest and weakest in the league just so you can run? Calling pass plays on 3rd and 1 and running every 1st and ten. What gives? Does Knapp own some compromising pics of Blank,McKay, and Mora? Arizona and Baltimore didn’t wait til there offense ended up being ranked #32 before they canned their guy, what’s our problem- we’re already there for crying out loud…..

By toocoldscorpio

October 19, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

I don’t know what offense the Falcons should run but I know Vick Use to be able to lead a two minute drive just as good as any quarterback. I know he made some guy named Tever Gaylord look good and some guy named Quintin McCord looked like a hall of famer one day. One season if Brian FinneraN did not have so many drops he probably would have had a chance to make the pro bowl. So I know Vick can pass the ball. I love his running but did you ever think how tired Vick must get. It looks like by design the receivers start blocking as soon as Vick scrambles leaving him with no where to pass the ball sometimes. Other times it seems they are suppose to run down around the first down marker and then just sit there. I don’t see the kind of passes Young and Montana use to throw. It looks like junk out there. I am not a football coach but it seems to me the coaches would have the common sense to call plays the Quarterback is comfortable with and does well. I believe this must be some kind of friendship deal with Mora and Knapp to get KnaPP A HEAD COACHING JOB. But so far it is not working out. When we go 7 and 9 Mora and Knapp will be out.

By Tim

October 19, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this

Does anyone really think Arthur Blank gives a $hit what people say on this blog? This season’s gonna play out based on what we’ve got right now, give or take a couple of injury-prone defensive players that talk a good talk, but are 50-50 (or less) to be on the field any given Sunday. We got what we got, coaches included. After the season, if we miss the playoffs, changes will come. But they aren’t going to come mid-season. Even if they do, there won’t be much impact so who cares? Part of being a fan is being able to deal with the fact that sometimes, your team sucks. As Atlanta fans, surely we know that by now. It’s beginning to look like this year’s edition of the Falcons will fit in nicely with Falcons teams of the past. Lots of big talk, but not many wins. Hey, but who really knows right? Let’s chill and see what happens over the rest of the season. Maybe some guys on the team will grow a pair and show some fire other than when they’re strutting on to the field during player intros before the game. Talk is cheap. Git-r-done!

By Jimmy

October 19, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this

The Falcons will never win consistantly with Michael Vick as their QB. He is consistantly inconsistant. Don’t fire the coach, trade the player.

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

we all know the problems its coaches lay off the vick,schaub thing our coahes leave great players on side lines dont put the rt players on field at rt time we can all see that. mike vick has proven himself he did not go junk over night. we got grat player for offense just not being used correctly mora called in both cordinators this week would have loved to been in that meeting if we play the same knapp ball on sunday and blank does NOTHING ABOUT IT well it will be clear to us all how the rest of the season will play out gonna be tough for real falcons fans to digest. i have been falcon fan since 70s seen the very bad teams and the good teams,with our talent we have now we should win but with this set of coaches i dont think we will do better now it is up to mr blank to make needed changes here again i dont think he will do what needs to be done very hard to watch our 2006 team get beat by poor choices from this coaching staff hope he feels the same we will know more on monday after he has time to digest this next game my thing is it is hard to stay positive watching same plays same mistakes game after game

By Vikingsouth

October 19, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

Should Knapp be fired? I don’t know, but he had a good reputation and a good deal of success before he came to the Falcons. He didn’t choose the small lineman, and he doesn’t go out for passes or throw them. Have the reciever been open? Yes. Knapp can’t be blamed for everything that’s gone wrong in the Falcons offense. Maybe the Falcons need some normal-sized linemen who can block the traditional way. Maybe Jenkins and White need to be seasoned more. Maybe Vick needs more time to get used to this offense, which Bill Walsh and others say takes 2-3 years to fully learn. My point is that the Falcon’s problems are collective, not the fault of just one man.

By Jeff

October 19, 2006 04:52 PM | Link to this

Vick CAN throw the ball. Not only did he have success under Reeves with Quentin McCord and Trevor Gaylor, but he also won the MVP of the Pro Bowl a few years ago. He won the MVP after passing for 250 yds.

Sure, it’s the pro bowl, but you have to be able to pass with some profeciency in order to have success.

PEOPLE, THE PROBLEM IS GREG KNAPP AND THE OFFENSE.

By Management is clue less

October 19, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

RedNeckolgy is all over this blog . Knapp is the problem. Please put Schaub in please so they can kill his a$$. Your team reflect the coach. We could go to UGA God forbid we could go to UT could out coach our coach Knapp.We need a new scheme and coach. But for now we need a play caller who know the player and can call good plays. Is it a law where you can not blitz in Atlanta. How much money did vegas have on this Game last Sunday you could have killed Manning! Clue less

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this

management is clue less ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID YES U ARE DEAD ON lets hope for change

By mike

October 19, 2006 05:02 PM | Link to this

The west coast, in principle is a short precision passing scheme where the quarterback makes short throws, and allows the receivers to run after the catch. It is very reliant on the QB being an accurate thrower. MICHAEL VICK IS NOT AN ACCURATE THROWER. If you hit the receivers in stride, they can run after the catch. VICK HAS A HARD ENOUGH TIME HITTING RECEIVERS AT ALL, LET ALONE IN STRIDE. He never has been able to, and obviously never will. It is time to admit that Vick will never be a good passer. He has been in the league long enough now that you cannot keep using the excuse that he is still learning. You knew what system came with Greg Knapp when you hired him. Therefore, it is hard to lay the blame at his feet. On the other side, Matt Schaub is perfect for the system. Did anyone ever wonder why the WR’s are more effective in the game when Schaub plays?

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

hey mike do you really think that schaub could have done it better with 3 yes 3 def guys in back field 2 sec after ball snapped did you not watch 2nd half last week hard to throw from the ground with 600 pounds on your chest

By JimmyB

October 19, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Mark - Do you know if Knapp is still riding to work every day with Mora as reported when they first moved to Atlanta from San Fran? Or maybe who is riding to work now with Blank? :-)

By Mark

October 19, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

Come on the Falcons will always find ways to loose for a few years after a winning season..its the way its always been ..Trade Vick now get some good stuff in return, while he has value.He looks like thug leading a professional football team

By zorro

October 19, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

THIS is to Mike Vick watch out for Gregg Knapp he’s the Enemy, his GAME plan is working for him and that is to get Matt Slop in the game so that he’ll have some type of film for the other team’s to gauge him on at the end of the year.Watch with all the run play’s that he gives you,then once Slop is in the game the pass protection will pick up and he will look like he knows what he’s doing .Then when you’re healthy again then you’re back and matt has his game film for the other coaches to look at. KNAPP has filled his promise to Slop to get him on a team now that he has something for the other team coaches to look at some up to date material let say from 06 with the falcon. See ya in the funnie papers VICK GOD speed!

By Realistic Ricky

October 19, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

If this was a court case and Knapp was on trial, the circumstantial evidence that HE IS THE PROBLEM is so overwhelming that Perry Mason and Johnny Cochran together could not get him aquitted. Turn out the lights, Greg, your party is over.

By Vikingsouth

October 19, 2006 05:34 PM | Link to this

uh oh, Mark. Here come the @@@###*s!

By atalian

October 19, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this

Fire Knapp, fire Donatell, fire Mckay, and find a way to trade Vick away, and bring in a QB who can throw the D@#N ball. And bring Reeves back! Shouldnt have let him go in the first place!

Trade Roddy and Jenkins, make Lilie number one, and bring Porter or Moss in from Oakland.

Get a whole new O-line, and build a new open air stadium d@!#$t, NOW!!!!

Sell the Hawks, and ‘Nique’s HOF bust and bring in a new team, and owner. Notice I said OWNER.

Make those two silly firms finalize the sale of the Braves. Then get rid of Chipper, and Hampton, and tell “Homeboy” his services are no longer needed, and that him AND his son can leave now. Move Bobby up to JS’s spot, pay Mazzone whatever he wants to come back.

And please, we should have realized long ago, after the Flames left town, that Atlanta is not a Hockey town!!!!

By Bob

October 19, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this

Fire Mark Bradley. No one is more wishy washy whether it is the Braves, Falcons, Dawgs or Jackets.

By mike

October 19, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this

Dirty byrd, you are right about one thing, the O Line is disgraceful. They are easily the worst in the league. I do believe that Matt Schaub is a better fit for the West Coast O than Vick is.

By Najeh Davenpoop

October 19, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

“Should Knapp’s days be numbered?”

Should we be scoring touchdowns? Should our WRs be catching passes instead of dropping them? Should we have more than one offensive lineman who weighs over 300 pounds? Should Falcons fans really be reminiscing fondly on the days of Dan Reeves?

Yeah, didn’t think so. Go away Knapp, and take Mora and Donatell with you.

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this

mike just rember we dont run wc offense its a blend of bull$@%*t from texas and option teams at ncaa level seen better offense in high school ball poor knapp had to go out and ask for help to come up with this style i call in knapp ball one thing for sure it dont work in nfl thats for sure

By parks

October 19, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this

atalian, congrats on the worst post ever on this board .

By robert

October 19, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this

this week throw throw throw. Lets see if Mike can back up his bs. Im betting he cant. Then bench him and bring in shauby

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this

hey folks while we are bringing up past coaches what do yall think about june jones? i know he runs decent offense at the hula school they have very good passing game think there qb last yr was in tops for ncaa ball rerun coaches wont work need fresh creative some one with a brain that can use it during the game to make needed adj in offense not same ol same 3 out gets old and does not win games

By tmorse

October 19, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

It’s obviously simple: You hear about teams in the nfl who do one thing well, and when they go into a big game, they do something completely different. That’s what defines a great team. Do the Falcons ever do that? Oh yeah, do the Falcons ever make any adjustments in the second half when they are losing? Of course not.

By Steve

October 19, 2006 06:57 PM | Link to this

Vick is a whining punk thug. Give a punk $130 million dollars, and what yuo get is a whining punk thug with $130M. Cut his a$$ loose and who the hell cares anyway. Trade his a$$.

By tmorse

October 19, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this

Forget it; Musgrave has what it takes to get the job done. I’ve been talking for the past two years about screen passes to Dunn and Griffith, as well as wide receiver screens to Deangelo and Rossy. That’s right, I said Allen Rossum (I also said that Finneran would be a jump-ball threat in the endzone). Yet Knapp spent much of his time complaining about how this team never had any weapons. I think that Musgrave will get creative, which continuing what they are doing is the only way this team can be inferior.

By mike b

October 19, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this

Prediction: Falcons finish 4-12. The only way they have a winning record or even a .500 record is if a couple of the other fail to show up for the game.

By birdwatcher

October 19, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this

I can’t claim to know much about being an offensive coordinator, but I can see the consistently throwing passes with no touch on short passes, throwing behind the receivers, except Crumpler on a regular basis. worst of all I see Vick focusing on himself rather than his team (e.g he likes to think what he could do on the colts or having Marvin Harrison). He does not respect his teammates and he is not a respectable team mate. This has nothing to do with Vick being the most exciting player in football and everything to do with Vick as leader, and a quarterback has to lead.

By Vikingsouth

October 19, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this

The Falcons won’t trade Vick. They don’t have the stones. A racial issue would be made out of it that would rock the fan base and cause controversy (which Blank especially hates). Donavan McNab- fine quarterback. Steve McNair- a wonderful career. Warren Moon- a great pioneer. Michael Vick- great athlete, so-so (at best) quarterback. It’s a fact.

By Dano

October 19, 2006 07:56 PM | Link to this

Well said birdwatcher….Amen

By Malcum XXX

October 19, 2006 08:08 PM | Link to this

Vick will not be benched or traded because it would cause a race riot. Blank just has to keep paying for his herpes treatments.

By atalian

October 19, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

Parks,

I’m not trying to win any “posting awards” here.

I’m just frustrated with Atlanta sports. Being born and raised here, and being a fan as long as I have, I do believe I have earned the right to be critical of my teams.

It seems no matter what team it is, Hawks of the late 80’s, Flames before they left, Falcons with the gritz blitz and the Super Bowl team, and of course the Braves of the 90’s up to 2005; They all seem to get to a point where they are satisfied because they had a winning season, but don’t follow up that winning season in the post season.

I’m tired of it; We need change, period!

By dirty byrd

October 19, 2006 08:18 PM | Link to this

dont think there will be any chance of change this yr that would admit that there was major problems in frt office and blank does not want bad publicity of any kind its all a show for money thats bottom line

By Jimo

October 19, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

Mora is the Boss and he should be the one fired.

By atalian

October 19, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

I don’t expect to see any big changes any time soon, but a couple teams have already set the tone with OC’s…..

Why don’t we? We’ve got Musgrave.

I mean I’m no coach, and I don’t have the eye or mind for football they do, but come on, I know that when you lose a game like last Sunday, there’s a problem.

We have some darn good players, so I’m left to believe that the coaches are to blame, and Vick.

By willysee in n.c.

October 19, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

M. Vick on hbo stated he would study more and learn progressions if he was asked to.Maybe he should have a handholding coach a special coach for a special player.Vick was a very good college level qb and six years later he remains one.

By toocoldscorpio

October 19, 2006 08:47 PM | Link to this

Mora is to blame for this hje came in and set a negative tone with Vick right away. If one believes his coach does not believe in him what can he do. They limit his reads his progressions . I believe Mora needs to be fired right now.

By True Fan

October 19, 2006 08:52 PM | Link to this

When I moved to this city about 15 years ago and would tell people that the Falcons were my favorite NFL team people would laugh! My friends use to ride with me to the games and wait for the 3rd quarter and got in free. They would come sit right beside me because the seats around my season seats were often empty unless Dallas, Philly, 49ers or the Steelers were in town. Even then they were filled with their fans. All anybody cared about in this town was the Bulldogs or Braves. Fast forward to 2001! Enter Mike Vick and a buzz is created around this town not seen since the preseason after the super bowl season. First full year as starter we go to the 2nd round of playoffs. Year after broke leg. Year after that playoffs. Last year 8-8. Now I went to every home game since I lived here until I moved in 03. Now i am back and all I hear is I’ve been a fan since 72 since I was born since69, 77 insert year here. All of you listen close…. SHUT THE F$%K UP REMEY!!! That’s from a movie called Higher Learning. I am sick of reading all these post from UGA fans talking about being Falcons fans since whenever. NO U ARE NOT. What you are is a pathetic uga fan who watched the Falcons when they played away games on TV because it was on TV. If you were a Falcon fan you would not be trying to rid the franchise of the best QB we ever had because he don’t play the way u think he should. I tell you what. Go back to the bulldog blog and try to figure out why you are the laughing stock of college football! This site is for professionals only. I can’t stand you MORONS!

By True Fan

October 19, 2006 08:57 PM | Link to this

Williesee in NC

Your are a moron! Stop making my state look bad with your lack of processing info. Don’t misquote someone to fit your argument IDIOT!

By Steve T

October 19, 2006 08:59 PM | Link to this

“The Falcons problems in the passing game also start with pass protection. They have yielded 18 sacks, sixth-most in the league.

“We can give the quarterback time to sit back there and make his reads and not have him running for his life,” Dunn said. “That’s one aspect that we have to do better as a offense is protect the quarterback.”

Dunn is not pointing a finger at the offensive line.

“It’s a team game, if the linemen miss a block, the backs have to have their backs,” Dunn said. “We have to protect each other.”

This is the problem. We need some size and strength on the OL. They can not handle the bull rush from bigger linemen. Forney has some good size and we need more like him in the middle.

Lineman that are less than 300 pounds needs to have tremendous lower body strength.

By Tired but Faithful Fan

October 19, 2006 09:39 PM | Link to this

The Falcons are experiencing the consequences of a failed strategy to build an NFL football team around “smaller athletic” linemen. They finally admitted it when aquiring Jackson. This is the NFL baby… and championship caliber teams have BIG athletic linemen. The little line looks good early in the season. But when the bodies start hurting, the weather gets cold, and the fields sloppy, the fat boy wins. Sure there are other issues (Knapp / Mora) as well, but if we are beaten at the LOS nuttin else will matter.

By tj

October 19, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

I think Mr. Blank can share in these problems. Maybe he should have given a little more thought to that rediculos contract he gave Vick. Vick was going to revolutionize the QB position, but what he’s done is “revolutionize” this offense. If Mr. blank would have done enough research he would have found out a running QB has never gotten it done in the NFL. Now Knapp is stuck trying to come up with something Vick can run, and he’s limited there. I would challenge anybody to go back and look at the games Schaub started or played in and see if you don’t think the offense opened up and looked more like an NFL offense. But with that contract, it is what it is. I wouldn’t put all the blame on Knapp, the receivers or the O line. I don’t believe all recievers forget how to catch a football when they get to Atlanta. Even Algie has had some problems. Offensive linemen have a hard time blocking for a QB who moves around and is unsure. And if they would (could) talk to you they would probably tell you that. As for Knapp, until something happens to Vick or somebody tells him different he is stuck with what he’s got. I would hate to know my job was riding on that. And by the way, Vick sure seems to think a lot more of Dan Reeves now than he did when he played a big part in getting him fired. In todays NFL the window of opportunity does not stay open long. Time’s a wasting.

By Jeff

October 19, 2006 10:10 PM | Link to this

Oh, boy … now Dunn is complaining about the play calling and the lack of passes coming his way. Yup, Knapp’s a goner!

By Ol' Birdy

October 19, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this

Simple: It all starts up front.

The FOOLISH decision the deliberately build an INFERIOR Oline negates all the other positive moves the various people in the organization have made.

Who in their right mind would, in a team planning meeting, minimize the importance of PASS PROTECTION? The team is crippled as a result and against the bigger, stronger teams it is downright embarrassing because it looks like our guys aren’t even in the same league.

Lehr’s final performance was an embarrassment to the organization. Couple that with his ILLICIT DRUG USE and I can’t see him returning to a team so focused on character and role models.

At least Lehr’s absence can only improve the biggest problem on offense.

By willysee in n.c.

October 19, 2006 10:48 PM | Link to this

Hey true fran excuse me true fan.You think I say meany things about vicky.That is not true I think he would make a fine h back for some lucky team.

By Andrew

October 19, 2006 11:46 PM | Link to this

we shoulda got Randy Moss when he left minnesota, his first choice was atlanta. arthur blank said no. thats what we need. what about that sweet bomb vick threw last week and jenkins dropped it 2 steps past the defender. perfect ball. we need receivers

By Schaub Sucks

October 20, 2006 12:19 AM | Link to this

I Hope Mike Vick does get traded..U flip floppers don’t realize what u got..He will go and win 2 or 3 super bowls with a team that will let him use his talents,and design an offense around him..U can’t make him fit into one..He is special..And as for Matt Schaub..What has he done??He is the best QB in pre-season..Playing 3rd and 4th stringers..He is slow..One dimensional..And is not that accurate..I guess u lames forgot the pass when he came in to spell Vick against the Seahawks 2 years ago,huh???Or the fumble against the Bucs in the end zone when he could have audibled or thrown the ball away?? And,as far as the Pats game goes..That Defense was depleted,my 75 year old mother could have passed for 300 against them..Aaron Brooks almost had 400 yards…

If Vick is traded..Lets bring in D.J.Shockley,he is accurate,and fast..No time for just a sit in the pocket QB..Face it people..Those days are being numbered thanks to guys like #7!!

By EnoughsaNuff

October 20, 2006 02:35 AM | Link to this

It’s time for Arthur Blank and Mora to do the inevitable….get rid of Greg NOT!

By Jay

October 20, 2006 04:16 AM | Link to this

Greg Take-a-Knapp is a plague on this team and the main thing holding it back. Period. With have entirely too much talent to be this lousy. In three years we havent seen Vick as good as he was with Reeves. What does that tell you? Knapp is an awful coach. The thing is Mora wont fire him because they are best friends. So Blank would have to fire both mid-season. Aint happen.

This is what is going to happen…Blank knows replacing the coach and offensive coordinator mid-season is a death knell for the team. So he hopes that the team doesnt make the playoffs, making his firing/forced resignation of Mora that much easier. Blank tells Mora to fire Knapp or leave at the end of the season. Mora leaves, Knapp leaves. Blank hires an offensive coordinator from a college that has coached a talent like Vick (Texas, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, etc), Vick blows up, Falcons win the super bowl in a couple years.

By big keith

October 20, 2006 04:19 AM | Link to this

I am sick of all these bigots who only see what they want to see when it comes to mike vick. You all are like a bunch of tabloid editors that take a comment chop it up and reassemble it to fit whatever headline you would like to run. Granted Mike Vick is no Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Brett Farve or any other quarterback that is going to consistently pass for 300 yards per game but neither of those players likewise has running ability even close to that of Mike. You malign him because he does what he is told to do when he goes onto the field(they dont allow him to audible and you only have so many time outs you can call). Here’s a question for you, what quarterback in the league can get off anything other than a screen pass (the O-line cant pass block becuase they are too small) in less than 1 second after the snap? You guys read into all this heresay about simplifying the offense and not being able to read defenses (Dan Marino scored lower than Mike Vick on the Wonderlic)because of the stereotypes that you hold dear. Here’s another question for you, what qb in the league can pass for any decent numbers when 95% of the play calls are runs against blitzes and eight in the box and you average one deep pass per game which is routinely dropped (because the offensive co-ord is a spineless,unimaginative idiot and you have (2)1st round busts at the WR position on the field)? Is the picture becoming any clearer for you? Heres another question, what other offensive system has this group of coaches run other than the West Coast and this amatuer attempt at a variation of the west coast system, successfully (this staff is one dimesional, its not that they dont want to change,they just can’t)? Why does this coaching staff refuse to adjust their game plan after 1st halfs, offensively or defensively (they cant)? What winning or winning-minded coaching staff in the league sits productive, proven and potential talent on the bench (Ashlie Lelie, Jerious Norwood,Jimmy Williams, Kevin Youngblood) while the on the field choices continually under-perform (Roddy White, Michael Jenkins cant catch, why hasnt WR coach Stewart been canned, Matt Leir & O-line, etc……)? Why does the defensive co-ord not blitz when he is not getting pressure on the qb and opts to play soft zone (this is what youre seeing when the db’s are playing 15 yards off the receivers on 1st and 10 and still back pedal when the ball is snapped)no matter what personnel he has on the field? Is the picture getting any clearer? This coaching staff is a joke just like we had back when Jerry Glanville was here with the run and shoot and the 6ft 265lb defensive line gimmick he was running. What self respecting head coach say’s not to panic after viewing his team perform the way ATL did against the Giants? (None) What decent coach says that no real major changes need to be made after watching that same performance? (None) I was born and raised here and I’ve seen this song and dance before.Wake-up bigots and rednecks,Jim Mora and this staff have been living off the NFC championship game (won by Dan Reeves players which includes Mike Vick) now for 2 years and its time for the Jim Mora, Greg Knapp, Ed Donatell, Michael Stewart show to end, no more smoke and mirrors except for the smoke coming out of the 1st moving form of transportation exiting Atlanta and carrying this staff. I’ll leave you with one last question who was the last winning qb (no rookies) with more than 4 years of usable NFL life left (so dont include Chandler) to lead this football team? Steve Bartkowski a quarter century ago, food for though and reflection!!!!!!!!!!!!

By E Jackson

October 20, 2006 07:18 AM | Link to this

I would agree it is diffcult to spread the ball, around to everybody. But let’s keep it in point. Does everybody want to win the Superbowl, or just get their endorsements? The offensive line can only block for so long. I blame the coaches for not concentrating on their opponents defenses’ game plan, and failure to adapt. Let Vick throw more, if it is a pass play, he must survey the field, if there is nothing,run.

By VickisaJoke

October 20, 2006 07:25 AM | Link to this

**Let’s laugh at Vick’s lambasting the coaches. Let’s laugh at his applauding the fact that he was in the top 15 QBs under Reeves. Notice he said top 15, not top 10.

Vick you are a major part of the problem.**

By AtlantaSux

October 20, 2006 07:28 AM | Link to this

White boy Knapp takes the blame while black boy Vick takes none.

“The agenda continues.

Atlanta knows who their audience is.

By Mike in Woodstock

October 20, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this

The rest of the season is toast. I really hate to say this because I’m a season ticket holder….But after reading Vick’s comments that he made on HBO, one can only conclude that he has given up on the idea of ever winning in Atlanta. He is already talking openly about what it would be like to play for other teams. And regardless of the flaming he takes on these boards, there are easily 15 teams who’d take him tomorrow. Mora and Knapp should be fired for trashing Vick’s career.

By Gary the K

October 20, 2006 08:24 AM | Link to this

I predict Vick will pass more than run against the Steelers. After all, how will he be able to run on one leg….his other foot is in his mouth. WHAT A MORON!!!!

By kent

October 20, 2006 08:34 AM | Link to this

How many offensive coodinators and wide receivers do you need to bring in here before you decide they not the problem. Vick can’t pass the ball consistently and defenses are daring him to try. Trade Vick and get a real quaterback.

By Bronni Karatassos

October 20, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this

Through Vicks first 10 games as starter in 2002 he threw only 2 interceptions in 228 attempts ranking him number 1 in the league. BLANK FIRED REEVES. BLANK FIRED THE GUY WHO BROUGHT CRUMP, VICK, BROOKINGS, DUNN, and KERNEY - CAN YOU SAY ALL PRO. NOW HE’S GOING TO KEEP KNAPP AROUND AND HE CAN’T EVEN SEE THAT MORA AND KNAPP ARE RUINNING WHAT REEVES BUILT. WASTING THE BEST YEARS OF TALENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE. I SAY WHERE ARE THE SMITHS!!!!

By TC

October 20, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

Hey, I have something to say abou the Knapp, Vick, O-line, WR, passing situation…

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We can say anything, break something, but nobody is getting fired or released.

By matt

October 20, 2006 09:34 AM | Link to this

To the guy that asked the question “would you wanna face Vick twice a week?”- To be honest I don’t thing many teams are scared of him as much as they were. Once you eliminate him from running he/they can be beat. Teams have been successful in doing this. You take a spy, maybe 2, and you force him to pass and you give your team GREAT chance to win.

To the guy who said “with all that vick’s accomplished.” What has he accomplished? Did I miss something? He took us to the NFC title game once. That was cool. He’s done nothing before that or since then? You guys need to face it; Vick is a great athlete, but he’s not a great QB. He wants to compare himself with the likes of Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Donovan McNabb?!?!? You’ve got to be joking! How can he compare himself to Super Bowl winners and Super Bowl MVPs and record setting QBs and QBs that have gone to numerous title games?!? Get real people. Vick’s got some potential under the right system (this one ain’t it) but he has not proven that he belongs up there with the elite QBs in the NFL. NOT EVEN CLOSE!

By Lacsho

October 20, 2006 10:12 AM | Link to this

I pose one question, to all the racist Vick haters. if the guy is not allowed to call audibles at the line, whose fault is that? It’s obvious that this Vick bashing is racially motivated. Anyone with common sense can see the play calling changes when Schaub enters the game. How can Vick go from throwing 3,000 yards to now? It doesn’t take a rocket science to figure it out. It just takes an open mind that doesn’t have a bias opinion. You rednecks hatred is so blatantly obvious. I bet the same Vick haters are the ones driving around with rebel flags on their cars. It’s 2006 and the South is still dealing with this b******. That’s the same reason why Lovie Smith is coachig for Chicago.

Mora is a freaking joke, along with his coaching staff. His own father verified that on NFL channel. Mora states, “I have full confidence in our passing game;there is nothing wrong with our passing game”;however, he forgets to mention we are last in the league in passing. His father was very heated, and disagreed with all of his comments. He needs to take that laid back s** back to California.

By James

October 20, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this

It’s always someone else’s fault. This time it’s the coordinators turn. Vick is not a top tier q.b. His great pro bowl was against a bland defence and his one good year with decent passing numbers is a top tier q.b.’s average year. Falcon’s fans should stop whinning and looking for soneone to throw under the bus and just accept the team they have and the only scheme that will work untill the have a true thrower. And the only reason they lead the league in rushing is because of Vick and that’s not a good thing no matter how you try to explain it.

By Shady S.

October 20, 2006 11:16 AM | Link to this

Our WR’s are the worst in the NFL and our OL is the smallest. This is what Alex Gibbs philosophy of undersized but quick linemen has gotten us. Yes we can run it well with our cut-blocking scheme when we have the right matchups, but we are simply over-powered against big, physical teams.

By Amused

October 20, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Some of the posts on here are extremely funny. Watched the inside the nfl interview with Vick and was disturbed when I heard him say that if he were given the opportunity to call his own plays he would study more and be in the film room more. I don’t know how to react to that comment. Does that mean he doesn’t already take the necessary time to mentally prepare for the game? It would just seem to me that he shouldn’t make that statement because even if he is the one calling plays or isn’t calling the plays he would want to study the opposition’s defense as much as possible and be on the same accord as the offensive coordinator. The comment just seems to give ammunition to those who don’t think that Vick is bright enough or committed enough to being an elite quarterback.

By Vince

October 20, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

One thing that is missed in all this is the probability that Vick’s inacuracy is due to him being winded from all the running. I believe that being winded causes a QB to lose the poise he needs to be a good solid thrower. I also believe the receivers suffer from running paterns futility, thus becoming disinterested. As a consequence, they’re not fully concentrating when the ball finally comes their way. Knaap, please get everyone involved in ur offense!!!

By James

October 20, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

To the post at 10:12am on 10-20-06 that’s two questions. And you meant rocket scientist. It’s always the race card it’s never that maybe Vick is just not smart enough to call an audible at the line of scrimage. Even under Reeves, the offense was dumbed down for Vick. If Vick were white he would have been changed to a different position before the draft took place. Vick is a talent he is just not a talented q.b.

By Lacsho

October 20, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

James thank you for the correction. I guess that’s your way of being sarcastic. And to your other comment, Vick was only in the league for a couple of years at that point when he almost threw for 3,000 yards. Every team dumbs down their offense when a new quarterback is inserted into the system. Do you football research. You’re the type of person who thinks racism doesn’t exist. When the falcons win, Vicks criticism is minimal.

By jamaal

October 20, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this

Does are offense resemble any other team? Hell No! That’s the problem. Every week I watch teams suceed offensively, and then I look at our ‘O’, and say damn, why can’t we do that. Get rid of this scrub! He’s the same OC that T.O. was screaming at a few years back. Secondly, can we get possesion recievers and stop getting all these tall guys that resemble Randy Moss but catch like FB’s! I’m tired of hearing people diesct Vick’s game; I never watch any other team’s recievers drop so many balls! Granted Vick may not be the best passer, but damn, the recievers are Pro’s too, get open, catch the ball, “Make a play”!!!!

By Barry

October 20, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this

Hey Yall:

I know when the season started I did not perceive any conspiracy against Michael Vick and his passing effecency. However since watching all the games this season, I believe the offensive coordinator (Knapp) is making an effort to limit Vicks opportunity to throw the football. He is not instituting frequent and effective passing plays, nor is any of the p[assing plays going down field. It appears he wants to make Vick one dimensional, as does the Falcons offensive. Vick was doing quitwe well in his development before he came here from San Francisco. The only reason we were enthused about a San Francisco type offensivee coming to Atlanta for Vick is that we thought he would be effective in such an offense. However, the offense we are running is not the San Francisco (Joe Montana /Steve Young) offense, In fact Knapp was not even behind that winning offense it was Steve Walsh. Atlanta has been dupped with this guy. He has shown he doesn’t know anything about the old San Francisco style west coast offense. He was just a “gopher” and not the mind behind its operartions. He has shown no creativity and does not know how to make adjustments with the offense. He tries to look intellegent with the clipboard in hand on the side lines but this act is a farce. He needs to be in booth looking at the entire field so that he can effectively srtrategize against defenses and the changes they are making against his offense. However, I think he is so insecure abiout his position he does not want any of the other offensive assistant coaches to be on the sideline appearing to look good when thing s are going well. GHe likes being on the sideline so that he can get television exposure for himself when things arew going well. But when things are going bad like it is now, I am sure he wish hwe was in the booth. Knapp troak e the goo with the bad and learn from your mistakes in not using Vick effectively and purposely minimizing his skills. If Mora is agreeing with ALL that you are doing then I wish you and him “get the hell out of Atlanta”. We do not approve of that Sht down here!!! Let the players play and you do the coaching. Stop these DMN mind games with your most effective quarterback and give him the plays to play. Hey man, it has been 3 years already. Everybody should be knowing what to do by now and should be very flexible with any changes. Quit the mind games to the detriment of the players and let’s play some D_mn football. Remember, this is a secret between us Falcon fans. Don’t tell nobody! SSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Barry

October 20, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

Hey Yall:

I know when the season started I did not perceive any conspiracy against Michael Vick and his passing effecency. However since watching all the games this season, I believe the offensive coordinator (Knapp) is making an effort to limit Vicks opportunity to throw the football. He is not instituting frequent and effective passing plays, nor is any of the p[assing plays going down field. It appears he wants to make Vick one dimensional, as does the Falcons offensive. Vick was doing quitwe well in his development before he came here from San Francisco. The only reason we were enthused about a San Francisco type offensivee coming to Atlanta for Vick is that we thought he would be effective in such an offense. However, the offense we are running is not the San Francisco (Joe Montana /Steve Young) offense, In fact Knapp was not even behind that winning offense it was Steve Walsh. Atlanta has been dupped with this guy. He has shown he doesn’t know anything about the old San Francisco style west coast offense. He was just a “gopher” and not the mind behind its operartions. He has shown no creativity and does not know how to make adjustments with the offense. He tries to look intellegent with the clipboard in hand on the side lines but this act is a farce. He needs to be in booth looking at the entire field so that he can effectively srtrategize against defenses and the changes they are making against his offense. However, I think he is so insecure abiout his position he does not want any of the other offensive assistant coaches to be on the sideline appearing to look good when thing s are going well. GHe likes being on the sideline so that he can get television exposure for himself when things arew going well. But when things are going bad like it is now, I am sure he wish hwe was in the booth. Knapp troak e the goo with the bad and learn from your mistakes in not using Vick effectively and purposely minimizing his skills. If Mora is agreeing with ALL that you are doing then I wish you and him “get the hell out of Atlanta”. We do not approve of that Sht down here!!! Let the players play and you do the coaching. Stop these DMN mind games with your most effective quarterback and give him the plays to play. Hey man, it has been 3 years already. Everybody should be knowing what to do by now and should be very flexible with any changes. Quit the mind games to the detriment of the players and let’s play some D_mn football. Remember, this is a secret between us Falcon fans. Don’t tell nobody! SSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Birdy

October 20, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

This is the saddest piece of information I’ve seen. From the “Dunn’s open to more passes” article,

“Warrick’s got the ability to catch the screen, the wide route, to catch a check-down and go make plays,” Falcons coach Jim Mora said. “Unlike some teams, our check-down is No. 7 [Vick] running. That’s something people have to contend with.”

So there it is, Falcons Fans. Final confirmation that this team is being led by complete FOOLS.

That’s Vick’s one and only “audible” he’s entrusted with.

So no one around here had better question why this team cannot beat the better defenses. Don’t even bother to ask, “what went wrong.”

This is worse than HIGH SCHOOL COACHING and quite EMBARRASSING.

What else need be said at this point?

By Darlene

October 20, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

If we had receivers that could catch the ball…period. Eben Alge’s hands have gone cold. Most of the passes have been catchable…probably 85% of them. IT’S NOT GREG KNAPP’S FAULT, EXCEPT HE NEEDS TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS IN THE RED ZONE. Now it’s becoming a “head” thing inside the 20yard line.

By Barry

October 20, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Yall:

I know when the season started I did not perceive any conspiracy against Michael Vick and his passing effecency. However since watching all the games this season, I believe the offensive coordinator (Knapp) is making an effort to limit Vicks opportunity to throw the football. He is not instituting frequent and effective passing plays, nor is any of the p[assing plays going down field. It appears he wants to make Vick one dimensional, as does the Falcons offensive. Vick was doing quitwe well in his development before he came here from San Francisco. The only reason we were enthused about a San Francisco type offensivee coming to Atlanta for Vick is that we thought he would be effective in such an offense. However, the offense we are running is not the San Francisco (Joe Montana /Steve Young) offense, In fact Knapp was not even behind that winning offense it was Steve Walsh. Atlanta has been dupped with this guy. He has shown he doesn’t know anything about the old San Francisco style west coast offense. He was just a “gopher” and not the mind behind its operartions. He has shown no creativity and does not know how to make adjustments with the offense. He tries to look intellegent with the clipboard in hand on the side lines but this act is a farce. He needs to be in booth looking at the entire field so that he can effectively srtrategize against defenses and the changes they are making against his offense. However, I think he is so insecure abiout his position he does not want any of the other offensive assistant coaches to be on the sideline appearing to look good when thing s are going well. GHe likes being on the sideline so that he can get television exposure for himself when things arew going well. But when things are going bad like it is now, I am sure he wish hwe was in the booth. Knapp troak e the goo with the bad and learn from your mistakes in not using Vick effectively and purposely minimizing his skills. If Mora is agreeing with ALL that you are doing then I wish you and him “get the hell out of Atlanta”. We do not approve of that Sht down here!!! Let the players play and you do the coaching. Stop these DMN mind games with your most effective quarterback and give him the plays to play. Hey man, it has been 3 years already. Everybody should be knowing what to do by now and should be very flexible with any changes. Quit the mind games to the detriment of the players and let’s play some D_mn football. Remember, this is a secret between us Falcon fans. Don’t tell nobody! SSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Barry

October 20, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Yall:

I know when the season started I did not perceive any conspiracy against Michael Vick and his passing effecency. However since watching all the games this season, I believe the offensive coordinator (Knapp) is making an effort to limit Vicks opportunity to throw the football. He is not instituting frequent and effective passing plays, nor is any of the p[assing plays going down field. It appears he wants to make Vick one dimensional, as does the Falcons offensive. Vick was doing quitwe well in his development before he came here from San Francisco. The only reason we were enthused about a San Francisco type offensivee coming to Atlanta for Vick is that we thought he would be effective in such an offense. However, the offense we are running is not the San Francisco (Joe Montana /Steve Young) offense, In fact Knapp was not even behind that winning offense it was Steve Walsh. Atlanta has been dupped with this guy. He has shown he doesn’t know anything about the old San Francisco style west coast offense. He was just a “gopher” and not the mind behind its operartions. He has shown no creativity and does not know how to make adjustments with the offense. He tries to look intellegent with the clipboard in hand on the side lines but this act is a farce. He needs to be in booth looking at the entire field so that he can effectively srtrategize against defenses and the changes they are making against his offense. However, I think he is so insecure abiout his position he does not want any of the other offensive assistant coaches to be on the sideline appearing to look good when thing s are going well. GHe likes being on the sideline so that he can get television exposure for himself when things arew going well. But when things are going bad like it is now, I am sure he wish hwe was in the booth. Knapp troak e the goo with the bad and learn from your mistakes in not using Vick effectively and purposely minimizing his skills. If Mora is agreeing with ALL that you are doing then I wish you and him “get the hell out of Atlanta”. We do not approve of that Sht down here!!! Let the players play and you do the coaching. Stop these DMN mind games with your most effective quarterback and give him the plays to play. Hey man, it has been 3 years already. Everybody should be knowing what to do by now and should be very flexible with any changes. Quit the mind games to the detriment of the players and let’s play some D_mn football. Remember, this is a secret between us Falcon fans. Don’t tell nobody! SSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By Barry

October 20, 2006 12:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Yall:

I know when the season started I did not perceive any conspiracy against Michael Vick and his passing effecency. However since watching all the games this season, I believe the offensive coordinator (Knapp) is making an effort to limit Vicks opportunity to throw the football. He is not instituting frequent and effective passing plays, nor is any of the p[assing plays going down field. It appears he wants to make Vick one dimensional, as does the Falcons offensive. Vick was doing quitwe well in his development before he came here from San Francisco. The only reason we were enthused about a San Francisco type offensivee coming to Atlanta for Vick is that we thought he would be effective in such an offense. However, the offense we are running is not the San Francisco (Joe Montana /Steve Young) offense, In fact Knapp was not even behind that winning offense it was Steve Walsh. Atlanta has been dupped with this guy. He has shown he doesn’t know anything about the old San Francisco style west coast offense. He was just a “gopher” and not the mind behind its operartions. He has shown no creativity and does not know how to make adjustments with the offense. He tries to look intellegent with the clipboard in hand on the side lines but this act is a farce. He needs to be in booth looking at the entire field so that he can effectively srtrategize against defenses and the changes they are making against his offense. However, I think he is so insecure abiout his position he does not want any of the other offensive assistant coaches to be on the sideline appearing to look good when thing s are going well. GHe likes being on the sideline so that he can get television exposure for himself when things arew going well. But when things are going bad like it is now, I am sure he wish hwe was in the booth. Knapp troak e the goo with the bad and learn from your mistakes in not using Vick effectively and purposely minimizing his skills. If Mora is agreeing with ALL that you are doing then I wish you and him “get the hell out of Atlanta”. We do not approve of that Sht down here!!! Let the players play and you do the coaching. Stop these DMN mind games with your most effective quarterback and give him the plays to play. Hey man, it has been 3 years already. Everybody should be knowing what to do by now and should be very flexible with any changes. Quit the mind games to the detriment of the players and let’s play some D_mn football. Remember, this is a secret between us Falcon fans. Don’t tell nobody! SSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!

Ringold

By chris

October 20, 2006 12:06 PM | Link to this

god i hate this city. Look i know it’s obvious that they aren,t going to the superbowl, but thier record is only 3-2. radier fans are more optimistic than you “ban wangon” fans. and i’ts not just the falcons but the braves fans too. wow 15 straight divion titles boy do they suck. You will not find a city of more fair weather fans in the galaxy. i’m going to watch the pittsburg game, and even if they lose by 50, i’m gonna watch the bengals game. every game till they are eliminated. I’m not asking you to suffer through another horrible season. i’m just asking that you AT LEAST wait till their below .500, before you hang your head and wait till next season

By Will

October 20, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this

Knapp needs to be fired and taking our queues from Baltimore and Kansas City would be wise. We could promote Bill Musgrave to Interim Offensive Coordinator since he has experience. He could get this team turned around because he knows the playbook and the offense simply needs some minor tweaking.

If we did not want to hire him permanently for the position, we could also look at Buying out David Cutcliffe’s contract at Tennessee. He is a heck of an OC that has NFL experience and has completely turned the Vols offense around this year. Yes, there are options, so don’t everyone go rallying around Knapp for fear of losing this season!

By Will

October 20, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Knapp needs to be fired and taking our queues from Baltimore and Kansas City would be wise. We could promote Bill Musgrave to Interim Offensive Coordinator since he has experience. He could get this team turned around because he knows the playbook and the offense simply needs some minor tweaking.

If we did not want to hire him permanently for the position, we could also look at Buying out David Cutcliffe’s contract at Tennessee. He is a heck of an OC that has NFL experience and has completely turned the Vols offense around this year. Yes, there are options, so don’t everyone go rallying around Knapp for fear of losing this season!

By Will

October 20, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Knapp needs to be fired and taking our queues from Baltimore and Kansas City would be wise. We could promote Bill Musgrave to Interim Offensive Coordinator since he has experience. He could get this team turned around because he knows the playbook and the offense simply needs some minor tweaking.

If we did not want to hire him permanently for the position, we could also look at buying out David Cutcliffe’s contract at Tennessee. He is a heck of an OC that has NFL experience and has completely turned the Vols offense around this year. Yes, there are options, so don’t everyone go rallying around Knapp for fear of losing this season! Geez!

By Greg

October 20, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

The OC needs to go because his offensive schemes are too predictable. There is little or no involvement in the passing game with running backs, use the damm running backs. Create more threats. Receivers do not run great routes and cannot catch. The offense needs to be multi-dimensional; run, pass. Lastly, the Offensive linemen have to block and protect the QB, period!

By Will

October 20, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Yes, Knapp should be gone! Are you kidding? We can promote Bill Musgrave to his position. Bill has experience. And if we only want to name him as an Interim Offensive Coordinator, we can do that and look at buying out David Cutcliffe’s contract at Tennessee. Cutcliffe is a HECK of an OC and has totally turned around the Vols offense since returning. We should seriously look at that move, folks. Oh, and for the defense—I’d like to see Mr. Blank get trigger happy here and pick up John Tenuta to replace Ed Donatel. We might even be able to pick up Lovie Smith to replace Jim Mora!

By R.E Haire

October 20, 2006 01:13 PM | Link to this

Maybe let Michael Vick do for the Falcons what Herschel Walker did for the Dallas Cowboys. When the Boys traded him to the Vickings they got so many high draft picks and quite a few emmediate impact players in the trade. You wouldn’t be worried about the salary cap because Vick makes so much. The cowboys preceded to win I can’t remember how many Super Bowls because of Herschel, he single handidly built those teams. Herschel’s greatest legacy in the NFL is what he did for Dallas. You have that same type of coveted player in Vick and Schaub is waiting to bust out for some one. Remember a young man by the name of Bret Favre, now Iam not saying that he will be another Favre because they come along about every twentyfive years or so. When Shaub gets away after this year we will all look back and say what a terrible mistake, I have heard so many NFL exprts say time and time again that in this period of the league that you can’t lead the league in rushing and win big games,you must have some passing. Now of course if your Barry Switzer or Bear Bryant that would work, but not in this day and age. The pass is the only way you move consistently in an offense, pretty soon the Falcon’s opponents are going to totally overload the line of scrimmage and stop you and now you don’t have the practice of throwing down field.

By sm

October 20, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Vick has not regressed under the Mora regime, only his results have. He was a novelty in 2003, and the league did not know how to defend him. Now they do. He can’t read defenses, he has no timing with his receivers, and he can’t see over the big bodies in front of him. He doesn’t throw the ball until he sees the receiver already open - too late. Defenses these days just use a jailbreak pass rush to hit him before he has time to see the play develop. They learned and improved. Vick has not.

By Ken Strickland

October 20, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

Let’s try a little common sense. If you use your backs as blockers, in passing situations, you allow the LB/DB assigned to them to stay inside the box and blitz. If you split one back outside and send the other into the flat, you remove at least 2 players(LB/DB)out of the box. That reduces the number of players that can blitz, which reduces pressure on the OLine and QB. These are some of the reasons the Falcons passing game is a mess under Knapp: (1)All DEF Coordinators know the Falcons run on 1st and/or 2nd downs 80-90% of the time. (2)All DC know the Falcons don’t allow their QBs to audible or change the play. (3)All DC know that in passing situations, the Falcons use their backs more as blockers than receivers. (4)All DC know that Falcon QB’s don’t have hot reads or safety valves, to offset the blitz, because they aren’t allow to audible.

So, if Vick reads the DEF is coming with an all out blitz, and they will be in man coverage, what are his options under Knapp. (1)He can call timeout, but the DC will simply change the DEF and you are right back where you started. Except, you can’t keep calling timeouts. (2)Go through with the play, hoping a rec gets open quickly, throw it away, if you have time, or run like hell.

The Falcons are the only NFL team that doesn’t allow audibles, which means their QB’s have no way to offset a blitz, or a shifting DEF. Rather than acknowledge Mora, Knapp, and Co prohibit their QBs from making adjustments, diehard racists show their ignorance by claiming Vick is the problem because of an alledged lack of intelligence. Funny, it’s like the pot calling the kettle black(pun intended).

By Lacsho

October 20, 2006 02:03 PM | Link to this

Nice post Ken. I couldn’t have said it know better….

By Lacsho

October 20, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this

I mean I couldn’t have said it any better. But you know what I meant

By fire_knapp

October 20, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this

This whole mess is Arthur Blank’s fault. Vick was amazing under Dan Reeves, and progressing with each game. Nonetheless, Blank fired Reeves mid way through Vick’s injury season, and we’ve been screwed ever since. Fire Knapp! Fire Mora! Bring back Reeves!

By willysee in n.c.

October 20, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

BIGOT!I give my opinion on M.Vick as a qb. not a personal comment.D. Mcnabb has the best t.d. to interception ratio of any active q.b. also he is second to Vick in q.b. rushing yards.Last I saw he was still black or is he not a REAL black whose the bigot?

By willysee in n.c.

October 20, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

BIGOT!I give my opinion on M.Vick as a qb. not a personal comment.D. Mcnabb has the best t.d. to interception ratio of any active q.b. also he is second to Vick in q.b. rushing yards.Last I saw he was still black or is he not a REAL black whose the bigot?

By willysee in n.c.

October 20, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

BIGOT!I give my opinion on M.Vick as a qb. not a personal comment.D. Mcnabb has the best t.d. to interception ratio of any active q.b. also he is second to Vick in q.b. rushing yards.Last I saw he was still black or is he not a REAL black whose the bigot?

By willysee in n.c.

October 20, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

BIGOT!I give my opinion on M.Vick as a qb. not a personal comment.D. Mcnabb has the best t.d. to interception ratio of any active q.b. also he is second to Vick in q.b. rushing yards.Last I saw he was still black or is he not a REAL black whose the bigot?

By willysee in n.c.

October 20, 2006 03:49 PM | Link to this

p.s.If M.Vick was accurate on his throws,or picked up his secondary receiver, or would throw away when pressured or picked up the receiver on roll outs then we could gage the o.c. better maybe knapp is part of the problem if Vick wants an accurate read on the scheme he can do his job better.

By S.

October 20, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this

It is clear to me that most of you who post comments haven’t a clue about winning or loyalty. I’m from Dallas. Where there’s an illustrious history of winning and even when we’re losing we don’t leave stands or come to games late. It’s a shame that you Falcons fans are not only football ignorant, but you’re also out and out bigots.

Do you really think that opposing defenses are excited about playing Vick and the Falcons-they know that when he has TIME he will burn ‘em.

u Ataliens are also wusses-scared to bring in big time playmaking recievers who have balls, and yes perhaps, big mouths, BUT they are ballers. I harken back to former Cowboy players Hollywood Henderson, Butch Johnson, and Michael Irvin.

You have a suck-a* O-line, a D that doesn’t look to be in shape, a sorry OC, a passive aggressive coach, and the WORST receivers on the face of the planet.

However, you have a quarterback who has changed the face of the game, so if ya’ll don’t want him, trade him to another team and watch him light ya’ll asses up…

Your commentaries are pathetic, but that’s because you aren’t use to winning and hanging in there when the going gets tough.

S.

By Ken Strickland

October 20, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this

WILLIESEE IN NC, it is revealing how after reading my comments, you still single out Vick, and Vick alone, for all problems with the passing attack. What makes you think Vick doesn’t pickup his secondary rec? Only a warped mentality would think, if the primary rec is covered the secondary rec is automatically open. And none of you haters seem to notice the inordinate number of dropped passes, especially in the redzone. While rolling to his left Vick threw a perfect 61yd spiral, which MJenkins dropped in the endzone. Vick also threw a 3nd and long pass to RWhite inside the 10, which he let go through his hands for an interception. Both rec’s got both hands on the ball, which means they were both very catchable. Both passes would have led to either 10 or 14pts. But, in your warped mind, it’s not the rec’s nor the coaches fault, it’s Vick’s fault. You mentioned that Vick should throw the ball away more. Wow, you haters are already b*** about his low passing percentage. With you haters it’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

You know WILLIESEE IN NC, when I made my post I didn’t single anyone out in particular. I only addressed one comment toward those with racist ideals and intent, AND YOU RESPONDED. I guess that old saying is true after all. THE FIRST HENS THAT KACKLES, LAID THE EGG.

By Ken Strickland

October 20, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

To S, as a long time Falcons fan, I want to thank you for your timely response. Hopefully, it will let some to these negative minded anal retentives know how our QB is viewed outside of their limited mentality. Just remember, a lot of negative posts aren’t from fans of the Falcons, they are fans of the Confederacy.