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Tuberville’s whining must cease
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I have nothing against the Auburn Tigers in football. I do have something against eternal whiners in sports.
Why can’t Tommy Tuberville just let 2004 go? Hey, it’s over. Yes, your Tigers went undefeated back then and didn’t reach the BCS title game. No, they didn’t deserve it over undefeated Southern Cal or Oklahoma, not with Auburn playing the Division I-AA likes of Louisiana-Monroe, Louisiana Tech and The Citadel.
Still, there was Tuberville spending last week doing what he is obsessed with doing, and that is complaining that college football needs a playoff system.
Guess the whining stops here for Tuberville – or it should. His previously undefeated Tigers were smacked around on Saturday at home by a less-talented Arkansas team.
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By KC
October 11, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this
I’m a playoff proponent, but I’m done whining about it. I don’t really care anymore if a TRUE national champion is crowned. But if that’s what the member schools want to do, they need to acknowledge there’s only 1 good way to do it. There’s a reason every sport that has an annual champ uses a playoff. Yes, it would diminish the regular season, that’s unavoidable. If they want to keep the regular season special and unique to college football, then let’s drop the pretense of having a national championship game that is flawed almost every year. I would like to see the old bowl system re-implemented. There was usually a consensus national champ then anyways. And it would give Furman something to wax nostalgic about, b/c I’m sure he’s running out of material after having written about nothing else BUT nostalgia the past 20 years. None of that will ever happen, though. $$$$$
By Richard
October 11, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this
OH MY GOD!!! Terence Moore is complaining about someone whining?!?!
Terence, seriously now - you’re the biggest whiner in the State of Georgia! You whine any and everytime a white person gets credit for doing something and everytime a black person gets in trouble. You constantly blames whites for the plights of black people. You take no accountability - just blame the whites 100% of the time. Ignore facts, they’d only hurt your argument.
You’re known as the Racist of the AJC - you got that title for whining about race every minute of every day! Quit your whining!
By Rod
October 11, 2006 10:41 AM | Link to this
You’re dead wrong on this Terence (as usual - when have you ever been right?). The current system is stupid - even you have to agree with that. The only way to have a chance of changing the system is to complain and make noise - remember King’s marches? (probably not).
Do you consider Martin Luther King, Jr. a whiner? That’s what he did - whine - and kept whining trying to get change.
When you condemn Tuberville, you’re also condemning King. Shame on you.
By stevej
October 11, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
I disagree that Auburn was beaten by a less talented team. Obviously you did not watch the game. Arkansas may be the best team in the sec west.I know I am glas Georgia does not have to play Arkansas.
By Bama Boy
October 11, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
Seeing the Aubie’s whine is nothing new. I’ve heard it for years. You get respect by earning respect. So far in the history of Auburn football that have been a second rate team and until they prove theirselves more than every eight to ten years they will never be considered an elite college football team. After all, Georgia Tech has won more SEC championship than Auburn and they have been in the league since the 70’s.
By JoeDog
October 11, 2006 11:06 AM | Link to this
Terence - he’s expressing his opinion, and it is a good one. As Bulldog, I am embarassed by Perdue’s whining the last few days. And you are the biggest whiner I’ve ever seen. Your hatred for whites has eaten up your entire lifetime. Your handout job - because you certainly don’t enjoy an AJC sportswriting job because of TALENT, should be gratefully accepted. Instead, you have the audacity to criticize others actually in the game. Find something worthwhile to crow about or stick to the pro’s where no one cares.
By Pequod
October 11, 2006 11:15 AM | Link to this
Richard and Rod both need a lesson in critical thinking.
Even if their description of Moore were correct, and I don’t think it is, his argument’s merit would remain unaffected. Whether his statements are true or his argument a good one are independent of any his personal behaviors or characteristics.
In other words in this case one can whine and still be right in asserting that someone else is complaining without justification.
This is the old ad hominem tu quoque fallacy. For example, Rush Limbaugh may be a drug addicated, thrice divorced blowhard (and he is) but that doesn’t mean that his arguments, including those about “family values” are no good, though they usually aren’t.
And if you think otherwise Richard and Rod, then give an argument. But unfortunately there isn’t one that will save your position.
By Bryan
October 11, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this
The reason that Auburn didn’t get a shot at the title is because the Press, which is concentrated in the Northeast and California, wanted USC to get a cake walk to the Championship. Do you really think that the joke teams in the PAC-10 that USC routinely beats by 60 points was any more challanging than most I-AA? Other than USC, there are no decent teams in the PAC-1+nine. The SEC destroyed many of these joke teams early this year. The only reason the Big 12 have any teams with winning records is because they play each other. Of course Oklahoma will win 8 games, how can they actually find 4 teams in their conference that can beat them. They are a decent team in a weak conference. Oklahoma or the second best team in the PAC-1 would finish no better than 6th in the SEC.
By Reggie
October 11, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
Cheer up War Fowl Nation, even though you are no longer #2, the Little Village on the Plains still smells like #2. And please, don’t call Terence a racist. He’s definately a bigot, but I don’t believe he’s a racist. Just wait till Chubby Charlie Weis starts whining when or if the F#$%ing Irish fall short and see who’s side Bigot Terence Moore takes then. Course Chubby Charlie might be dead by then, the man huffs and puffs just speaking in a normal tone of voice.
By kelscruggs
October 11, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
Worst Blog Ever.
By Brian
October 11, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this
I hate Auburn, and I think Tuberville is right about a playoff system. The polls are are an absolute joke. The coach’s flunkies fill out the forms for them and the press is biased (ND at the preseason #2 is still laughable). Let the top 16 teams settle it on the field using the individual bowl sites as the playoffs stops. You’d get better teams at all of the bowl sites. Sounds like a win-win to me.
By Brian
October 11, 2006 11:25 AM | Link to this
Pequod, you need a lesson in comprehension.
Rush’s drug abuse has nothing to do with his broadcasts. Moore’s racist ramblings have everything to do with his writings.
Thanks for playing though.
By misterwax
October 11, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this
The AJC shoul allow the “Rush - Meister” to offer a guest column on Football.. He certainly expresses his opinions more accurately the Mr. Moore.
By austindog
October 11, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this
Terence, I think if you were denied a once in a lifetime honor (like a, ahem, Pulitzer)(lol) only because of a rule you thought was unfair, you’d spend more than a couple years whining about it.
PS. “Pulitzer” HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
By ming
October 11, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this
Pequod,
Moron.
That’s not the ad hominem tu quoque fallacy. Ad hominem is when you directly contradict yourself.
You’re thinking “straw man,” geek.
Did you think you’d come on to a sports blog and dazzle with your phony intellect?
By CJ
October 11, 2006 11:53 AM | Link to this
I am not a fan of Auburn or Tommy Turdville , but the man has some goods points- all of which are valid irrespective of Auburn’s defeat last Saturday. The main problem is the polls which are subjective. The mainstream sports media are filled with journalists (like T. Moore) and TV personalities that m*bate over college football’s sexy programs which places less sexy programs at a built in disadvantage to make it to the title game. Settle college football on the field.
By Big Mike
October 11, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this
Tommy is the reason I backed out of my scholarship to Ole Miss and went to Louisiana-Monroe instead.
By DuluthDog
October 11, 2006 11:58 AM | Link to this
Terrance, Your writing not only mirrors your hypocrisy, but your racist rants are as tiresome as your lack of Sports Knowledge. Choklahoma backed into the BCS game after getting waxed in their own Conference Game in 2003. What better proof of needing a playoff system.. If a team cant win their own conference they dont need to be playing in a Quote title game. The 2004 Oklahoma team proved they did not belong, but getting humilated in that game. The fact Div 1 Football is the only sport at any level that does not have a playoff system supports Tuberville’s correct statement. Get a clue, you are the same guy who bashed Danny Wuerffel and every other white person on the planet.
By ming
October 11, 2006 12:00 PM | Link to this
Pequod:
Let me clarify that first line of response.
“That’s not the ad hominem tu quoque fallacy. Ad hominem tu quoque is when you directly contradict yourself.”
By marty
October 11, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this
Terence is the reason I backed out of my journalism degree and switched to business.
By matt
October 11, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this
Pequod- actually that’s exactly what that means!! If someone complains about someone whining and they in fact are a whiner, then their opinion has no merit. If sommeone is a drug head and divorced three times then he shouldn’t be giving advice on family values. If someone uses big words to try and act smart doesn’t mean their argument has any merit either.
By br
October 11, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
Bryan, get a life you cheeseball! Yeah, the press is so much in love with USC that they decided to rank Florida AHEAD of them, right?! Auburn lost to Arkansas because the press wanted USC to be #2, riiiiiight! Do me a favor, THINK before you actually hit the post button and quit YOUR whining, OK dumba$$?
By Greg K
October 11, 2006 12:18 PM | Link to this
You lost all credibility in your column when you said the Hogs were less talented. That was a woodshed whoopin’and Arkansas was every bit as talented as Auburn.Guess you didn’t watch the same game I did. BTW,win or lose,Tommy T had some valid points. Because of the competition in the SEC,its difficult for any team to go unscathed.
By Greg
October 11, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
Unless your talking about race Terence you are not qualified to give an opinion.
By Reality
October 11, 2006 12:20 PM | Link to this
Kind of like Sonny Purdue and the other THUGA rednecks whining about the AJC reporting the truth is’nt it ?
By Lee Dog
October 11, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this
You couldn’t be much more wrong than if you just invented something to write about. Oh, wait a minute, you did invent something to write about. Tuberville didn’t go out of his way to say all of those things. He was asked questions DURING his weekly SEC press conference and he answered the questions. Maybe you should stick to what you think you know, looking for racism where there is none.
By The Grinch
October 11, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this
Vanderbilt could have a winning record in the PAC-10.
By Brad
October 11, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this
Everyone’s heated responses are exactly what Mr. Moore is trying to get. It’s obvious by his racial overtones and blatant absense of football knowledge. If everyone would just ignore him from now on, maybe the AJC would realize that the novelty has worn off and it’s time to replace him with someone that has an original thought.
By nissandave
October 11, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this
Tommy T. is trying to fix the problem for all of the div-1 schools that may not have a shot in winning/playing for a NC because they started out low in the polls. You non-Auburn people will understand what he is trying to do and will join his fight when your team gets the shaft of being left out of the Title game.
By Brian
October 11, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this
I agree Terrance. The argument that the SEC is the toughest conference is irrelevant. Play teams with a pulse out of conference and win them all, then you have a case. Until then, shut it!
By austindog
October 11, 2006 12:48 PM | Link to this
Yes, Reality, the ajc reports the objective truth.
I guess calling yourself “Reality” is like a heavyset guy nicknamed “Slim.”
By ButlerDawg
October 11, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this
I agree Brad. Maybe we should treat Jeff Schultz the same way.
By Kenneth
October 11, 2006 01:07 PM | Link to this
Great Article…….WRONG!
By Nathan
October 11, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Auburn had a weak non-conference schedule. But that team beat defending national champ LSU, went into top 10 Tennessee’s Neyland Stadium with 100,000 plus fans and destroyed them, then turned the marquee matchup against top 10 Georgia into a route, and THEN beat the same Virginia Tech team that should have beaten USC in the first game of the season. And the game that was supposedly USC biggest test of the year was against Cal. Did you see what Texas Tech, a mid-rate Big 12 team, did to Cal? And did you see the Tennessee-Texas A&M game? Remember A&M lost by a touchdown to Oklahoma. Then they played Tennessee in Dallas, which one would think would be at least similar to a home game (I understand that Kyle Field has the Twelfth man, but still…it’s in Texas, so it seems there would be more Aggies), and were trounced by 31 points. This is the same Tennessee mentioned earlier, and Auburn actually beat them twice, the second time coming in the SEC Championship. Tennessee lost one game other than the two to Auburn. Do your homework. If you’re going to ridicule Auburn’s non-conference schedule, then shouldn’t mention the weakness of USC and Oklahoma’s conference schedules?
To put it in perspective for you, assume you were up for your dream job (maybe this is it; maybe it’s Sports Illustrated; maybe it’s something completely different), but you were turned down because you’re black. Your skin color has nothing to do with your talent as a writer, yet it prevented you from getting the job. By the same token, Auburn’s schedule said nothing of the talent of the players, and their preseason ranking was based on a disappointing season in 2003 (which has nothing to do with 2004) kept them away from the top 2. I’m willing to bet that you would be stark raving mad for losing the job based on something such as skin color (and rightfully so, because it shouldn’t matter). And Auburn Tiger fans are still upset over being shafted after going undefeated through the best conference in the nation.
By Nathan
October 11, 2006 01:08 PM | Link to this
Yeah, Auburn had a weak non-conference schedule. But that team beat defending national champ LSU, went into top 10 Tennessee’s Neyland Stadium with 100,000 plus fans and destroyed them, then turned the marquee matchup against top 10 Georgia into a route, and THEN beat the same Virginia Tech team that should have beaten USC in the first game of the season. And the game that was supposedly USC biggest test of the year was against Cal. Did you see what Texas Tech, a mid-rate Big 12 team, did to Cal? And did you see the Tennessee-Texas A&M game? Remember A&M lost by a touchdown to Oklahoma. Then they played Tennessee in Dallas, which one would think would be at least similar to a home game (I understand that Kyle Field has the Twelfth man, but still…it’s in Texas, so it seems there would be more Aggies), and were trounced by 31 points. This is the same Tennessee mentioned earlier, and Auburn actually beat them twice, the second time coming in the SEC Championship. Tennessee lost one game other than the two to Auburn. Do your homework. If you’re going to ridicule Auburn’s non-conference schedule, then shouldn’t mention the weakness of USC and Oklahoma’s conference schedules?
To put it in perspective for you, assume you were up for your dream job (maybe this is it; maybe it’s Sports Illustrated; maybe it’s something completely different), but you were turned down because you’re black. Your skin color has nothing to do with your talent as a writer, yet it prevented you from getting the job. By the same token, Auburn’s schedule said nothing of the talent of the players, and their preseason ranking was based on a disappointing season in 2003 (which has nothing to do with 2004) kept them away from the top 2. I’m willing to bet that you would be stark raving mad for losing the job based on something such as skin color (and rightfully so, because it shouldn’t matter). And Auburn Tiger fans are still upset over being shafted after going undefeated through the best conference in the nation.
By Nathan
October 11, 2006 01:12 PM | Link to this
Oops, sorry, I didn’t mean to post that twice…
By alwaysgolfing
October 11, 2006 01:28 PM | Link to this
Well I agree with Terence. Anyway one game does not a champion make (ie the world series).Yes, it would diminish the regular season and thats not un-avoidable just don’t do it. This ain’t like BB or even division II, imagine the chaois, many thousands of FB fans traveling to where and when and who gets the tickets.The bowl season is magic and leaves 1/2 as winners. It is good those in control have some common sense and good judgement
By Jason
October 11, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this
I know you think you know everything, but Louisiana Monroe and Louisiana Tech are division 1-A schools now and they were in 2004 also. The only reason Auburn played The Citadel is because Bowling Green backed out at the last minute to play Oklahoma. Tuberville griping about 2004 has nothing to do with thie years team bening beat by Arkansas. What happened in 2004 was slap in the face to Auburn and the entire SEC. It’s funny how you are the only journalist now saying Auburn didn’t deserve to play USC. Why don’t you get your facts straight before criticizing a coach and a school.
By Ian
October 11, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this
First off, Tuberville is RIGHT and college football does need a playoff system. Most of America, including the bonehead who wrote this article have been brainwashed by the media folks of who get all hot and bothered anytime Notre Dame looks like they may have a decent season, preseason #2, gimme a break. Hey Auburn or an SEC team could get ranked that high if they got to play Army, Navy, and Stanford every year. Hey Notre Dame, how about coming on the road to play in SEC team once in a while. I’d love to see Fat Charlie and clan venture into the Swamp, Death Valley, between the Hedges in Athens, Jordan Hare in Auburn, or to Bryant Deny in Tuscaloosa. You know why they don’t, becase THEY know they’re not good enough. YOU journalists make them out to be something they are clearly not. The other problem is with the majority of the country taking whatever Lee Corso or Kirk Herbstriet say to heart. Hello, Kirk was a quarterback at Ohio State, of course he’s going to back them. Did you see his kids up on set with him? All were wearing OSU colors. Biased? Just a bit. College football needs a playoff. This way the actual teams could play it out instead of having some no nothing writers, old Has-Beens who never got it done when they were playing, or computer sort out a National Champion.
By War Eagle
October 11, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this
Bamma boy, respect, how does four in a row sound,going for the thumb.. How Many head coaches has Bama had in the last 10 years? GROOVES. Your blog is not really worth answering…Go Duke????, Coach Tuberville was stating facts that almost 100% of Division I coaches would like to see surface.In my opinion, it really not the schedule you play, its who you beat. In 2004, Auburn could have played with any team in the country. personally I thought we could have beat Oklahoma and USC would been a good game.The HC in colleges are AFRAID to speak out on a playoff system because the PRESIDENTS do not want them to materialize..
By br
October 11, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
Jason, Auburn of 2004 isn’t the only occasion where a better team got screwed out of the title game. Back in ‘94, Penn State was screwed over for Nebraska. How do you know Auburn would have won anyway, correct me if I’m wrong, but USC kicked the crap out of them in 2002 and 2003, so how do you know it would have been different in ‘04? Besides, it’s over now, get on with your life, and get over it!
By Head Coach
October 11, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
Moore, you give bigoted tabloid journalism a face. Trust me, ESPN will come calling.
By Moore Sucks
October 11, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this
Terrence Moore needs to be fired by the AJC, but who are we kidding!! The AJC is one of the worst newspapers in the country. www.usatoday.com At least you can find someone that can write a descent article. Someone please get Tereence to write about something that he knows quite a bit about…SHIP!! (hint - it’s what comes out of your everyday and goes in the toilet)
To hell with Moore.
By Matt
October 11, 2006 02:45 PM | Link to this
What an incredibly stupid article. Maybe you should go back and read Tommy’s comments, since he’s ADVOCATING FOR THE ENTIRE SEC. If UGA had gotten shut out in 2004, you’d still be crying about it. This is precisely why you’re writing B articles for the AJC. Less deserving than Oklahoma or USC? You’re kidding right? Auburn beat what, 4-5 top 10 teams in 2004? I’m sure Oklahoma and USC topped that, oh right, Auburn’s out of conference games are as good as the in conference games out in the Pac 10.
Bama Boy, I highly suspect you have no connection with UA. Typical of most of your fans. You should let Auburn worry about their own business…considering they own UA in football and academics. You might work for an Auburn grad one day…if you can get a job.
By JimGarren
October 11, 2006 02:57 PM | Link to this
Another wannabe athlete writing for a paper. Once again AJC columnist didn’t give correct information. Louisiana Tech & Louisiana Monroe are 1-A idiot. You would know that if you weren’t out helping Jessie Jackson. If Willingham or Croom would have made these comments you would have praised them. Thats two articles in the last 4 days with false information, do you not have to go thru an editor? By the way I hate Auburn. I hope to God Willingham and Washington go undefeated one day and get left out of the title game. I hope a school like Alabama could play Texas for the title that year, just to see how many racist reasons you can come with for Washington being left out.
By mart
October 11, 2006 02:59 PM | Link to this
This is an artificial story. Tuberville hasn’t been whining about the perceived slight against his team. It’s just that in every press conference he gets asked about the BCS or about the 2004 season. He merely truthfully answers the questions asked —— and then all the reporters write that “he just won’t let it go” or “Tuberville continues to whine.” If he didn’t “whine,” i.e., if he refused to answer the questions reporters asked, it would be written that he “won’t face the past” or “obstinately dodges questions.”
It reminds me of this year’s British Open. Every other question posed to Tiger W. was about his father. Tiger answered the questions. The headlines then read “Tiger speaks of his dad” or “Dead dad on Tiger’s mind.”
By JimGarren
October 11, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this
I said this the other day, and im going to say it again. The media says the SEC doesn’t go out of conference against strong teams. Well I hate to burst that bouble but take a look at the top 15 teams this year. The SEC has played or will play. USC,MICHIGAN,WEST VIRGINIA,LOUISVILLE,GEORGIA TECH,CLEMSON, CALIFIORNIA. Not to mention Georgia,Florida,Tennessee,LSU,Auburn,Arkansas are all in conference games. Show me one other conference who’s out of conference slate compares to that.
By Moore is a fool
October 11, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this
Yet another example of how ridiculous the AJC and its writers are, with the notable exception of Tony Barnhardt, who actually has a clue. First of all, what stupid editor lets Terence Moore write about Tommmy Tuberville and Auburn, like Terence Moore has any knowledge whatsoever of what he is talking about. Beyond his clear objective of smearing Tuberville and Auburn is the fact that Moore doesn’t even get the point of what Tuberville was saying. His point was that it is highly unlikely that a team from the SEC will go through the schedule undefeated, and thus would not get to play for the NC, even though lesser teams from lesser conferences will often get an easier road to the big game. The fact is that if any SEC school had happend to go undefeated in 2004, yes, even you arrogant Bama, they would have been left out because of the current system. he is trying to drum up attention to the fact that the SEC, being the best conference in football, gets screwed because it is so difficult to go through undefeated…Tubs knew it was inlikely for his team or any other team to go through the SEC without a loss, although it shouldn’t have been Arkansas, who did whip Auburn. He is trying to make a change overall for the good of the conference. Even UGA should be happy about that and support him, because he seems to be the only one to speak out right now. Another thing about you Moore, You think Oklahoma was better than Auburn in 2004? did you watch the NC game? another example of how stupid you are. really, how do you have a job?
By Scott
October 11, 2006 03:58 PM | Link to this
Let me get this right. Terrence Moore just complained about somebody else whining. Irony is such a great thing.
By rick
October 11, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
Terrance-
Just so you know, all Aubies are complainers. They evolved that way over the decades and know no better. What did you expect from TT?
By FluffAlbright
October 11, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this
With the exception of a couple of halfwits that seize on every opportunity to bash teams/schools/conferences they don’t like, I’m encouraged by most of the comments I’ve seen here. It’s not about “whining” its about fixing a ridiculously flawed system not worthy of the best sport in the world, College Football. If, in 2004, the powers that be had decided Auburn was #2 then OU would have gotten screwed and they’d be the ones complaining. And with good reason. BTW, how many of you would have voted the Pittsburgh Steelers as your #1 or 2 team in the NFL last year.
By Steve
October 11, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this
While I’m certainly no TM fan, he is absoulutely right about the constant whining from Tubberville. Grow up Tommy. Get over it. 2004 is past. THERE ARE AUBURN ALUM STICKERS ON MY CARS.
By Steve
October 11, 2006 05:05 PM | Link to this
Let’s say my team or your team did win the “national title”. What does it really add to any of our lives. My point is this: I truly and absolutely love college football. I spend several thousand dollars each fall attending, traveling to and generally supporting the game. If my teams win the title, great. If the don’t, same thing.
Frankly, I believe the ones making the most noise need to find other things which add true meaning and richness to their lives.
By Jeff
October 11, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
I am sick and tired of hearing all these Georgia Alum and fans whining! This is all you hear all the time! Instead of worrying about your own team, it seems as if you always want to worry with others in the SEC (auburn). Auburn will still beat those mutts from athens.
By Dave
October 11, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
“Frankly, I believe the ones making the most noise need to find other things which add true meaning and richness to their lives.”
Steve, I agree that whoever wins the so called “National Championship” is pretty trivial all things considered. But that’s embarrassing dude. Don’t you have a flower show to go to or something?
By CT Big Dawg
October 11, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this
Mr. Moore you are wrong and Tommy Tubberville happens to be right in this case. If you had checked your facts both USC and Oklahoma played some patsies as well in 2004 i.e. Oregon State, Arizona, Arizona State, Fresno State who almost beat mighty USC. Oklahoma played Troy State, Iowa State, Missouri, Kansas to name a few that year as well. Having a true playoff, Auburn, USC, Oklahoma and others would have had an opportunity to prove who was the best team in 2004. Instead we are left with this nagging feeling that Auburn got cheated.
By Bama Boy
October 11, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this
Matt and War Eagle typical Aubie responses always looking to compare what UA has or hasn’t done so you can make your nation look superior. Championships earn respect and until you win more than one (1957) you’ll always be #2. By they way I have 2 Auburn grads working for me. Go Tech!
By War Eagle
October 11, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
Bamma Boy, How many people could you find who had respect for Bammer when a second rate team, who has won 20 out of 22 conference games, sacked Brodie 12 times in a washed out game. By the way the Coach Bryant is dead.THE THUMB is coming.
By rick
October 11, 2006 05:59 PM | Link to this
Better yet, I don’t hire Auburn graduates. Too much whining and complaining!
By Peter
October 11, 2006 06:17 PM | Link to this
I say it’s about time someone stated what the majority think….and no, I’m not talking about you terence. Hat’s off to Tubs, I think he hit the nail on the head.
By Joe
October 11, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this
I have lived in both Auburn and in the Atlanta area which is filled with Georgia fans…and to tell you the truth, Georgia fans seem to whine more than any group I have been in contact with. I dont get how anyone can say Auburn did not have the right to be angry about what happened a few years ago. Maybe just a little jelousy from the dawg fans? Not even last years team..the best team since Buck led the dawgs to the NC..could beat Auburn. Sad.
By Frank
October 11, 2006 06:32 PM | Link to this
If Mark Richt had half the cojones that Tommy Tuberville does..he would have said the same thing.
By Palmetto State Dawg
October 11, 2006 06:45 PM | Link to this
Moore is a fool, if you hate the AJC & their writers so much then why do you pay them money for their website, & read their paper?
By Louis Vales
October 11, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this
At least Auburn and rest of the SEC no longer has to worry about any of their coaches being recruited by the NFL. How do you think Richt, Tuberville, Fulmer, Shula, Myles, Nutt—and we know how Spurrier worked out—would play with men as opposedto boys whose scholarships can be revoked. No, everybody can relax as the only viable guy to potentially be wooed by the NFL might have been intimidated by Spurrier’s stellar performance. Too bad Blobby Bowden was never—for good reason—afforded the opportunity to see how cornpone bromides would work on people over the age of 20.
By Steve
October 11, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this
Dave,
No, I don’t have any flower shows to attend, but I do have 87 employees to attend to who run my three businesses while I play golf all day. But you keep whining and waiting for your team to win the national title while the rest of us win at other things.
By Top Dawg
October 11, 2006 07:04 PM | Link to this
I HATE AUBURN, but to the extent Tommy Tuberville is arguing that we need playoffs in Division I-A football, HE IS RIGHT!!!!!!! Let’s settle it on the field. I know that will diminish the influence and power of you sports writers, but get over it. We need playoffs!!!
By bigbelly
October 11, 2006 07:09 PM | Link to this
I don’t see how a playoff would diminish the regular season. If scheduling games against schools like Northeastern South Carolina Central A&T don’t keep people from watching the games, nothing does.Having a playoff might actually encourage schools to schedule decent nonconference games, if they know one loss won’t destroy there season. Rivalries and conference races would continue to drive college football’s regular season,even with a playoff. But the so-called “BCS Championship Game” (with the exception of this years Rose Bowl and the Miami-Ohio State game in ‘03) plus the long line of boring Bowl games always leaves the College postseason anti-climatic.
By AUalltheway
October 11, 2006 07:28 PM | Link to this
WE are AUBURN! Greatest school in the country. We haven’t won a real NC since 1957 (unless you want to count our PNC in 2004.)
WAR DAMN EAGLE!
By KJK
October 11, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this
Tuberville is right if he is complaining that only a playoff gets a real champion. But the fan whining about SC is weak. If Auburn had not been shut out at home 23-0 in 2003 by SC, they would have started the season ranked higher, and likely been in the title game. Auburn did it to themselves. They had a shot at SC—twice—and whiffed. But out on the west coast, we respect Auburn, because they will do a home and home back to back.
By John the Handsome
October 11, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this
You are right Mr. Moore. Flubberville sure wasn’t crying when he told the Old Miss. players he wasn’t going anywhere. He had the contract with Auburn in his back pocket. He has always been a cry-baby. And you are right about the cup cake schedule AU always plays. He is a disgrace and a liar.
By wardamn
October 11, 2006 09:00 PM | Link to this
To “Bama Boy”; Seems to me there is only one second rate team in the in the state of Alabama and that’s the Tide. Good try last year for the come back until the real teams in the SEC slapped you back to earth. You will always have the Bear Bryant days to brag about. To bad it is 2006. If losing two SEC games in three years is second rate, what exactly is first rate you white trash excuse for a human.
By War Eagle
October 11, 2006 09:16 PM | Link to this
Hey T. Moore, just come off Auburn board, man you are a hated guy with all your “no-knowledge” bs. ajc has much popularity as the The New York times also…Cynthia, Terence and George Soros..Big time left wingers
By Moore is Less
October 11, 2006 11:40 PM | Link to this
Terrance-I remain astonished that someone pays you to do what you do. Tuberville has consistently supported a playoff system (last year when Auburn was not part of the national championship picture and, no doubt, this year when they’ll be out of it as well) and he should. It’s a joke that every league where football (or any other major sport for that matter) is played (from Class A-AAAAA in the Georgia High School Association to Division I-AA, II and III in the NCAA to the NFL, Canada and Europe) has figured out a playoff system, yet NCAA Division I football alone can’t seem to get its arms around it. The SEC, easily the country’s toughest conference (see today’s SI cover), can practically never produce an undefeated team that survives to a national championship game. That was Tuberville’s point - so how did you deduce from Tuberville’s statement last week that he was whining about 2004? He wasn’t, although he certainly couldn’t be blamed if he did: Auburn’s 2004 schedule strength (#9) was higher than Oklahoma (#15) and USC (#23); plus, if any objective fan (much less someone that covers sports for a living) watched the 2004 national title game and didn’t think Auburn with three NFL first-rounders in its backfield could make things more interesting against USC than being down 38-14 at halftime, as Oklahoma was, it was only because they’d stopped watching. Although it may be too late, here’s some helpful advice: try to incorporate a little substance into your columns, rather than just name-calling. I know, I know, it makes it harder to meet your deadlines and maybe your readers might have to think some, but it would be a whole lot more interesting than what you do now….
By Bama Boy
October 12, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this
Wardamn - Just what I was talking about. You can only compare yourselve to BAMA. Second Rate to teams like USC, Michigan,Notre Dame,Texas,Ohio State,Oklahoma,& of course BAMA — Teams that compete for championships year in and year out. You pieces of crap from Auburn can’t see the forrest for the trees. Wake up the sky is falling and you don’t even realize it. Hop a plane and find a replacement for Tubby he’ll loose more just wait and see.
By Dave
October 12, 2006 08:56 AM | Link to this
Let’s all take advantage of this opportunity that Steve has provided us to re-examine our lives and focus on what’s really important. After all, Steve has 87 employees, plays golf every day and still finds time to argue with the rest of us Commoners about college football. Most successful people I know spend time bragging about their accompishments on message boards so I’m certain Steve is worth listening to.
By Keith S
October 12, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this
Maybe Terrance can strike a deal with Tommy. Tommy will stop whining when Terrance stops whining.
By Moore Cowbell
October 12, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this
Bama Boy-
Would you please go look for your picture in the dictionary under hypocrite? Why have you been churning through coaches in the ’90s? Becasue you can’t beat Auburn. Who’s worried about whom? I’m already chalking up Bama as a win for Auburn, because the Bear has been dead for a while.
As for Tuberville, he is right about the playoff. The bowls and the regular season are already meaningless unless you start the season in the top 10 OR go undefeated. What should count is winning your conference and then letting those teams have a playoff. Auburn was not and is not a top 5 team but might be by the end of the year. Arkansas may be a top 5 team but is being unfairly judged by getting clobbered by USC when McFadden and Mustain were not playing. What matters is who is the champion at the end of the year, not if you get beat once or twice due to injury or playing in a hostile environment. Settle it on the field not some fantasy geek ranking system. As it stands right now the two teams most likely to play in the national title game (OSU/Mich and USC)don’t even play in a conference championship game. And if somehow they lose that just opens the door for Louisville and WV. That is fair how?
By br
October 12, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this
Moore Cowdung,
Keep whining and pouting, although I don’t know what good it’s doing. Funny how you keep dissing the Big 10 and Pac 10, yet you can’t beat them. USC kicked your asses twice, Wisconsin spanked you last year, and the last time you faced Michigan, you lost! Sounds like you’re jealous to me! Hey, if Florida can somehow manage a 13-0 record, I’ll be first in line in proclaiming their place in the title game, but if they lose, then deal with the reality that the SEC doesn’t belong in the big game. Until there’s a playoff system in place, just accept it the way it is…and stop your whining!
By gdawg
October 12, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this
Terrance is the reason I backed out of my AJC subscription.
By The Man
October 12, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this
I HATE AURURN, BUT NOW I LIKE THEM.
SHUT UP TERENCE, YOU WORTHLESS, RACIST, ILLITERATE PIECE OF $HIT.
PLEASE LEAVE ATLANTA IMMEDIATELY.
YOUR MOTHER SHOULD HAVE SWALLOWED YOU.
By Shadow
October 12, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this
The Man is in love with Titothebear who, in turn, loves Terence Moore. Interesting Manage a Trois going on here!
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October 12, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this
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By The Man
October 12, 2006 05:13 PM | Link to this
I have given up my allegience to UGA and am now a Georgia Tech fan…GO JACKETS, Dawgs bite!!!!
By The Man
October 12, 2006 05:49 PM | Link to this
TERENCE - YOU IS A DISGRACE TO US BLACK FOLK. AND YOU LIKE MEN. ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY’RE NAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Aubiedawg
October 12, 2006 08:10 PM | Link to this
TO Bama Boy: Sounds like you like to brag about long gone days of the last century. I bet that you did not go to Alabama and if you did I bet you din’t graduate
WAR EAGLE!!!
By War Eagle
October 12, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this
75% of Bammer fans did not attend or graduated from University of Alabama, 80% of Auburn fans are either grads or atended school at Auburn…Go Bammer beat Duke
By white shadow
October 12, 2006 09:50 PM | Link to this
Terrence, Auburn deserved to be in the national championship game against USC and with 4 first round picks and a complete team probably would have beaten them. They did beat a very, very good Georgia team that Oklahoma would not have even played close. Did you forget the year before when LSU ran Oklahoma out of the Superdome. Any responsible journalist woul have voted Auburn 1 or 2.I did not hear you lobbying against Notre Dame being awarded a BCS game last year over Auburn despite an embarrasing schedule and no quality wins. If an SEC team makes it to the National Championship game, they will win. Ohio State and Michigan would have at least two losses and maybe as many as five if they played Florida this year. I did not know it was whining to speak out logically against an unfair system and biased and ignorant sportswriters, many of whom are irresponsible and clueless. I am disappointed that you took such offense over his remarks.As a Georgia fan, I applaud Coach Tubberville for speaking out; maybe he hit a nerve within you and you need to reconsider your comments.