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All dressed up, it’s still Detroit
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Detroit — As somebody who has cringed often through the decades at just the thought of having to spend more than a millisecond around here, this city never has looked better. It’s on the verge of moving from horrible to tolerable to somewhat enjoyable. It’s a mirage, though, because you know what they say about putting lipstick on a pig.
To paraphrase, Detroit is still Detroit, with clean streets, fancy casinos and Super Bowl banners only in the areas that will get the most scrutiny with that little game sitting at the end of the week.
Even so, the state’s governor and the city’s mayor tried valiantly on Monday to convince those in a stuffed ballroom downtown that this pig is actually a prince, and that it only needs a kiss from its slew of critics around the solar system to wear a crown for the rest of its life.
“We don’t have any hurricanes. No earthquakes. Truly, truly this place has got everything you would want for those who love the seasons, and we want to be able to show you that this is a magical state and a magical city,” said Jennifer Granholm, the governor, causing more than a few rolled eyes.
Added Kwame Kilpatrick, the mayor, recalling the sports disaster of the ages that was the 1982 Super Bowl in Detroit and nearby Pontiac, “I’ve heard the complaints about what happened back then, and I want you to know that Detroiters have a pent-up desire to do well. We want to redeem ourselves and to reintroduce ourselves as the next Detroit. The new Detroit.”
This is the old Detroit with lipstick. Only New Orleans has a higher unemployment rate among big cities, and that was before Ford announced its plans last week to slice 25,000 more jobs nationally. General Motors also is hemorrhaging. Plus, murders continue to happen as rapidly within the city limits as the wind rattling through all of those buildings that were scorched into a crumbling mess nearly 40 years ago during the riots.
That said, with Detroit having its third-warmest January in 120 years, there was this ongoing rarity on Monday: The sun actually peeking through the normally gloomy skies. Not only that, there hasn’t been much precipitation in days. As a result, local officials rushed to hire somebody from Canada to make a bunch of the fake stuff for a 200-foot snow slide that is slated to highlight what they’re calling “Motown Winter Blast.”
No blizzards. No ice storms. No freezing temperatures. Nothing more than a few snow flurries and occasional rain showers are in the weather forecast from now through that little game.
“Well, that’s great,” said Jim Steeg, trying to sound enthusiastic over the phone from San Diego, but failing miserably. “They got the luck.” Then Steeg eased into a laugh, before adding, “Kwame Kilpatrick bought somebody off on that one.”
Steeg laughed some more, probably because he just finished his first year as an executive for the San Diego Chargers instead of continuing as the guy who was in charge of running every Super Bowl for the NFL for 23 years through 2005.
If you do the math, Steeg’s first Super Bowl was, well, you’ve guessed it. I was here back then, grumbling and freezing with everybody else during a miserable week of ugly wind chill factors and botched transportation. The week was salvaged a bit after the San Francisco 49ers started their dynasty with a thriller over the Cincinnati Bengals. Before, during and after that game, Steeg heard the same mantra through clenched teeth: Why in the name of beaches and sunshine did the league deviate from its system of having the Super Bowl at warm-weather sites?
“Listen. That Super Bowl almost took on mythological proportions,” Steeg said. “It was unfair for people to think that you can control the weather, and that was a winter that was brutally bad. And, of course, you had that sleet storm on Friday, which didn’t help matters. That being said, it was cold. It was all of that other stuff going together, but we had a good plan, and everything else worked pretty good.”
Yeah, but it was in Detroit. Just like this Super Bowl. To which Roger Penske, the chairman of the Detroit Super Bowl XL Host Committee, offered this vision between words of the governor and the mayor: “What I want to see [Monday morning] are headlines that say ‘Great game and great city.’ “
How about OK city?
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By DON
January 30, 2006 09:11 PM | Link to this
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006601300371
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By Lateef
January 30, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this
If Detroit can get a second chance, why can’t Atlanta?
By Doug
January 31, 2006 12:14 AM | Link to this
Lipstick on a pig is right. Detroit even changed the name of East Detroit to East Point. Same reason Atlanta changed Stewart Avenue to International Blvd. A Super Bowl won’t change the image.
By Ex-Northerner
January 31, 2006 12:23 AM | Link to this
Seasons? Yeah, right. Ten months of winter and two months of bad sledding.
By Richard
January 31, 2006 05:26 AM | Link to this
They changed Stewart Ave. to Metropolitan Pkwy. But I do agree with you all. Atlanta has done so much to revitalize this city. There should be two or three major sporting events taking place in this city, hopefully, in the next 10 to 15 years if we keep up the process.
By Steve
January 31, 2006 06:23 AM | Link to this
Who the heck cares about either? I’m moving up to my retirement home in Athens where I’m close to real football anyway. Every football Saturday in Athens is better than any “Super” Sunday, be it Detriot or Miami.
By Terry Glivore
January 31, 2006 06:32 AM | Link to this
Terrence - you don’t look better by burning down your neighbor’s house. Shame on you for trying to make Detroit look bad. You should spend some time reading your own site and realize that people are only in Atlanta because they have to be. Traffic jams, murder, people jumping off bridges, corruption…the list goes on and on. You’re right, it’s like putting lipstick on a pig. And the same can be said for Atlanta. Pretty buildings can’t hide what’s really going on. So, please save your criticisms.
By Monica
January 31, 2006 06:45 AM | Link to this
Mr. Moore, I currently live in Atlanta, but I am originally from the Detroit area. I am so tired of people putting down Detroit. I don’t care what city you go to there are good and bad parts of any city. Don’t put down a city you know NOTHING about. There are beautiful places in Detroit and it can’t be half bad since it was the place Rosa Parks called home for many, many years, and I think the city honored her in a superb way. SO PLEASE DON’T PUT DOWN MY TOWN.
By Ex Detroiter
January 31, 2006 06:51 AM | Link to this
Terence, give Detroit a break!!! She offers all the things most large cities have to offer: Crime, gambling, drugs and etc. More importantly, Detroit does have something that really stands out that most people don’t mention when they write about her. Detroit does have a GREAT Cultural Center; The Detroit Art Museum and The Detroit Symphony Orchestra and The Wayne State University and Medical School. Detroit has a melting pot of diversity. In the City you can find almost any type of Cuisine your heart desires. This will be a GREAT SUPER BOWL. Detroit will shine above the LIPSTICK!!!!
By Native Detroiter
January 31, 2006 07:07 AM | Link to this
Mr.Mathis,
Why waste your time trashing Detroit ? Detroit is a major city just like any other city. With all the good things and all the bad things. The great thing about it is that Detroit has a wonderful music and ethnic cultural history. No, Detroit is not full of transplants like Atlanta and brand new buildings - it is uniquely Detroit !!! Shame on you Mr. Mathis !!!
By h_charles
January 31, 2006 07:18 AM | Link to this
For once Terence is correct. Detroit is an armpit. Horrible roads, horrible weather, a desolate urban core, and horrific crime. This city was built on the American auto industry, and we all know where that industry is. That being said, Detroit got a Super Bowl for one reason — they built a new stadium. Unless you have an appealing destination for early February such as Miami, Southern California, etc. (Atlanta has its worst weather this time of year AND horrible traffic), you don’t get the Super Bowl unless you build a new stadium. Those are the rules. Kudos to Mr. Blank for trying with the “renovated” Dome proposal, but it isn’t enough. Atlanta won’t see another Super Bowl due to the debacle of the last one (ice storm, traffic jams, celebrity murder) — at least until the Dome goes the way of the Omni.
By Shawn
January 31, 2006 07:19 AM | Link to this
Mr.Mathis,
Have you forgotten that a city is made up of real live people ?? You normally appear to be a very rational man. So I am puzzled by the fact that you have taken the time to write such things about the city of Detroit where normal people live, work and breathe every day - just like they do in Atlanta !!
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 07:25 AM | Link to this
Who gives a crap where the Super Bowl is played, I just want to see a great game between two great teams. If I remember correctly, Jacksonville wasn’t exactly the greatest place to hold the big game either! Detroit is a big city, the auto capital of the world, what do you expect? I’ve been to Detroit many times and yes, there are some bad parts of town, but it has its great parts as well…kind of like Atlanta. Besides, if this game is as close as I think it will be and is as exciting as I think it will be, no one will even care that the game was held in Detroit.
By Chaundra Frierson
January 31, 2006 07:29 AM | Link to this
Mr. Mathis,
Shame on you!!! I’m a native Detroiter and former Atlantan. I’m back in Detroit and my city is working to change it’s image. It makes it very difficult for people to see the change or embrace the efforts of the city when reporters like you only offer negative feedback about the city. As far as I’m concerned Detroit is not perfect and is definetly not a pig.. Like Atlanta, Detroit has problems as does every city. I hope that you have a safe and great time in the city and make every effort to report the game and not bash my city.. I thought you were in town to report the game and it’s happenings. It seems as though no matter what is said or done you will make every effort to find the bad.. Shame on you!!! You need to do better!!!!!
By Chaundra Frierson
January 31, 2006 07:31 AM | Link to this
Mr. Moore,
Shame on you!!! I’m a native Detroiter and former Atlantan. I’m back in Detroit and my city is working to change it’s image. It makes it very difficult for people to see the change or embrace the efforts of the city when reporters like you only offer negative feedback about the city. As far as I’m concerned Detroit is not perfect and is definetly not a pig.. Like Atlanta, Detroit has problems as does every city. I hope that you have a safe and great time in the city and make every effort to report the game and not bash my city.. I thought you were in town to report the game and it’s happenings. It seems as though no matter what is said or done you will make every effort to find the bad.. Shame on you!!! You need to do better!!!!!
By Otis Gowens
January 31, 2006 07:36 AM | Link to this
Detroit? A pig?
You my brother, are an idiot for that. But go ahead and take your shots.
By Ivan Fran
January 31, 2006 07:43 AM | Link to this
Terence, If you dislike Detroit so much do not go to city or States of Michigan. It has had hard time like other big city and in time, it will be back. The city and state was built on the auto industry and we all know what the automobile industry has done for the pass five years. Ivan Stone Mountain, GA
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 07:44 AM | Link to this
If Terence wants to call Detroit a pig all I have to say is it takes one to know one!
By Matthew
January 31, 2006 07:47 AM | Link to this
I know all about Detroit since I have seen Robocop at least 17 times and I would never want to go to that crap hole of a city. I don’t know who they bribed to get the Super Bowl. I would rather watch soccer in Atlanta than the Super Bowl in Detroit.
Speaking of Robocop, that was a truly great movie. The success of this movie can be credited to one man; Paul Verhoeven. His special touch of violence, gore and social satire make the movie more than just your average B-movie, with a lame title and simple story and characters. Yes, without Verhoeven this movie seriously would had been nothing more like another B-movie on par with science-fiction/action movies like “Timecop” and Albert Pyun movies.
The main story of “RoboCop” itself is simply and not that complex, however Verhoeven manages to put many different layers for the story as well as the characters in the movie. The social satire in the movie works out brilliantly and is what makes the movie perhaps more entertaining than thrilling or tense. Especially those typical Verhoeven news sketches are brilliant! But also those who will not be able to understand or fully appreciate the social satire elements in the movie, will have plenty to enjoy while watching this. The action itself is top-class and the characters are fun as well as cool. RoboCop himself looks awesome, both in his movements and the way his costume looks. Oh and of course I may not forget his awesome gun!
The movie is not only filled with some typical Verhoeven social satire elements but also with some trademark Verhoeven gore and violence. The way Murphy gets killed is very graphic and disturbing. But as always in most Verhoeven movies is the case, the violence is so over-the-top that it’s not really shocking to look at but almost more comical like because it’s just so over-the-top. Especially what happens to Emil at the end, the gore is way over-the-top there and I absolutely love it!
In a movie like this the characters are also always important. Especially the villains and yes, “RoboCop” has some highly entertaining and good villains. The group of Clarence, Leon, Joe and Steve are a bunch of entertaining, charismatic stereotypical villains. But also the more educated villains like Dick Jones (Ronny Cox) and Bob Morton (a very young Miguel Ferrer) who also isn’t a very nice person. But also the mechanical villain ED-209 is extremely cool and dangerous looking. The stop-motion effects for him are of course heavily outdated this days but it takes away nothing of his threatening appearance. All of the character are entertaining and well developed. Characters also worth mentioning are The Old Man (Dan O’Herlihy) who plays the president of OCP and you can tell by his face gestures that he’s not very pleased with the direction Dick Jones is heading towards with the company and Johnson who is always smiling. And of course let’s not forget Bixby “I’d buy that for a dollar!” Snyder, he’s a real classic! They should given that guy a real show on TV.
By Erik Provitt
January 31, 2006 07:56 AM | Link to this
You know, I wasn’t going to comment on the content in your article, but I felt I had to. As a native DETROITER, it does my heart a disservice to see people like you try to tarnish progress. Everything starts at the beginning,(and it has taken Atlanta 10 years to come close to fully realizing its potential) so rather than write an article about A New Beginning, you choose to “throw mud”, and my only question is WHY. The NFL does not award a city a Super Bowl based soley on a stadium. Obiviously, the NFL committe found something aspiring about the city and its elected officials to award the city the game in the first place. You have either never been to Detroit or just a man that can’t acknowledge a fact. I don’t believe that I have ever read one of your aritlces, but now I will definately look for your byline and aoid your articles all together; because you are obiviously a person that has an agenda, and it is not reporting the facts.
By Khary
January 31, 2006 07:57 AM | Link to this
All I wanna say is nobody who hasn’t lived in Detroit, where I grew up at for 20yrs, should have Anything bad to say about it. Mr. Mathis, you and others only report bad things about detroit. Detroit has great places like Belle Isle, Hart Plaza where the hold the biggest firework display in the country every year, 3 Casino’s(which Atlanta doesn’t have), Cobo Hall where the hold the world’s biggest auto show, a beautiful water front and a franchise called Coney Island where you can go and get shrimp at 4 o’clock in the morning at one of thousands of Coney’s in the city. We also have the best basketball and hockey teams in the country. At least MSN.com had something positive to say about Detroit………
By James Wright
January 31, 2006 08:04 AM | Link to this
I just moved to Atlanta from Detroit in June of 2005. Unlike some of the other commenters, my wife and I moved away from the pit of despair called Detroit and into what we consider to be a beautiful city in Atlanta. I do have to say that to pick on Detroit’s weather only is to miss the bigger picture. The inevitable collapse of the local economy in the Detroit metro area is well on it’s way due to the automobile industry being held hostage by unions. Add in a lack of culture, absolutely no nightlife, and generally angry people, and Detroit really is a city with no redeeming qualities. Great article - I think it’s more fair to Detroit than the city deserves.
By Matthew
January 31, 2006 08:08 AM | Link to this
I have a question, who the @#!$ is Mr. Mathis? The author of this wonderful retrospective of that craphole of the city Detroit is named Mr. Terrence Moore. There is no “Mathis” in his name.
Calling Mr. Moore, Mr. Mathis, despite having his name printed clearly on the article sums up the stupidity of people from Detroit. With a populace as stupid as you guys, no wonder Detroit is in such crappy shape.
You Detroiters just need to shut up and go back if that city is so great and better than Atlanta. You guys are stupider than the stupidest rednecks in Atlanta.
By Niecy
January 31, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this
Why in God’s Holy name are you here? Take you trifling, sorry, negative, asinine self back to Atlanta, and paint a Picasso about that city.
You have no desire to learn about the culture, struggles, and growth of this beautiful city. I loathe people such as yourself. I sure will make it my business to ensure that Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick sees this, and seeks to educate you on how wonderful this beautiful city is.
Who has wronged you in your life to be such a deplorable person as you are? I got it!! Atlanta!!
By James Wright
January 31, 2006 08:36 AM | Link to this
Just to add to my previous comments, I still have a great number of family and friends in the Detroit area. I feel it’s no disrespect to them to tell them honestly about the area. What’s more, they fully understand. Not one of them is happy in Detroit, and would all like to move away if only they felt they could sell their house for what they owe on it (yes, the real estate market is collapsing, too). Cities will not improve or make progress because journalists pander to them. Quite the opposite, I think the author has done a commendable job of being fair to the city and bringing up some realities of their situation. Yes, the improvements they’ve made for the SuperBowl are good - but please don’t imagine that it fixes the entirety of the problem in Detroit. I read it more as an admonishment for city and state officials to follow through on the promise the recent improvements offer rather than simple mug-slinging. I only hope that those in power can realize no one is fooled by this lipstick and take it as a challenge to actually make things better.
By Jimmy
January 31, 2006 08:40 AM | Link to this
I’m just curious,not to hate on Detroit, but if the cities so GREAT why are so many people leaving?
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this
Matthew: No one is saying Detroit is better than Atlanta, just saying there’s no need to be a “hater.” Oh and by the way, ROBOCOP was filmed in the great city of ATLANTA, not Detroit. The film’s plot was Detroit, but because of budgets and whatnot, the movie was filmed here. Some of the photography was the city of Detroit, but not the actual film. People live there because, believe it or not, they love it and people make a living there. Yes, the winters can be brutal at times, but it is not Siberia. I really get a kick out of people that have NEVER once stepped foot in Detroit, let alone lived there, rail on it and call it a pile of rubble. Remember, Atlanta is not perfect either…in fact, NO city is!
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this
Matthew: No one is saying Detroit is better than Atlanta, there is just no need to be a “hater.” Believe it or not, people live there because they love the area (suburbs) and people make a living there. Sometimes the winters can be brutal, but let’s face it, it is NOT Siberia. I get a kick out people who have never even stepped foot in Detroit, or let alone lived there, rip on it and call it a pile of rubble. Remember, Atlanta is nowhere near perfect either…then again, NO big city is!
BTW, Robocop was NOT filmed in Detroit, it was filmed in Atlanta! Yes, the photography has Detroit’s skyline, but the actual film itself took place in Atlanta. I don’t know the exact reason why, maybe finacial reasons, but it was not filmed in Detroit.
By br
January 31, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this
sorry for the double-post!
By Paul Caron
January 31, 2006 10:09 AM | Link to this
So you came up with your conclusions on Detroit after how long there? Less than 24 hours? How were your visits to Greektown, (great Greek restaurants with flaming Saganaki and even hotter belly dancers—all legal), Mexicantown (great authentic Mexican restaurants, a weekend hotspot, more popular the Va.-Highlands), Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village, Hockeytown Cafe, feather bowling at a Belgium bar on the city eastside, hip restaurants in the ‘burbs in Ferndale? Attend of any of the the Pistons 107 straight sold out home games>; the Wings 339 straight?. Michigan football in the Big House (nearby) 193 consecutive crowds of 100,000-plus, or Michigan State basketball and 120 straight sellouts? (ok ok, Even the Lions have sold out every game in Ford Field’s four-year history). Ever boat on the Detroit River or Lake St. Clair? The river is the best seat for the annual late-June fireworks. Ever attend the Detroit Grand Prix? Funny, thousands of international reporters did and had more good things to say about Detroit than you did. Aside from the Detroit mayor, you can put lipstick on a pig…sometimes that pig turns out to be a pretty good pork roast. Write again about the Motor City AFTER you spend SOME time there. You must have a bad tour guide.
By Ray Steeler Fan
January 31, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this
Detroit has Greektown as well. This is a great tourist area, with fantastic food! If you go to any city in America, there will be blighted areas. I grew up in Detroit, and am well aware of the decay that had taken place in the city after the riots in the 60’s. I left in the early 80’s, and get back rarely. But, I can tell you all from my last visit a couple of years ago, that Kwame Kilpatrick has made a valiant effort to revitalize the city; especially the riverfront and downtown areas, where the Superbowl will be played.
I don’t think that people who attend Superbowls plan to go to the ghetto for entertainment. If they do, then that is their choice. When people came to Atlanta, did they go hang out in East Point, or East Atlanta. I don’t think so. Maybe they really enjoyed the time they spent at Woodruff Park with the homeless people.
Please, give me a break! People in Jacksonville couldn’t find hotel rooms because the city couldn’t accomodate them. That won’t happen in Detroit.
Detroit is just as good a place as any to host a Superbowl!
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 10:30 AM | Link to this
Paul: Agree wholeheartedly, these people have never even stepped foot in Detroit, the only source they get are from these stupid, fat, lazy sportswriters like Dan Schaugnessy (sp?), Woody Paige, or any of the other Around The Horn, PTI, Cold Pizza journalists…or my favorite, “I look like I’m constipating every time I blink my eyes” Skip Bayless…what a terd he is! Oh by the way all you Detroit haters, check out their zoo, they actually have bears and it is actually a fun place to go to, better than the piece of crap Atlanta zoo where you’re lucky if you even see the a$$ end of a lion through 30 yards of trees and brown grass!
By MJG
January 31, 2006 10:44 AM | Link to this
brewerfaninATL
I don’t agree with the Detroit bashing I was born in ATL and live in Washington DC. But, if Detroit is so great and ATL so screwed up why are you living in ATL versus Detroit?
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this
MJG: I never said Detroit is better than Atlanta, or vice versa for that matter. All I said was Detroit gets a very bad rap and it just shouldn’t be that way. I never said Atlanta was screwed up, just saying it has its bad parts too. Really, I think Atlanta is very nice, Detroit is, Chicago is, etc. I do however think the Atlanta zoo IS screwed up, what a piece of garbage it is, definately NOT worth the money! BTW, I live here because this is where I make the money suitable for me, my wife is from here, etc. All I say to people is go where the money is and go wherever makes YOU happy, whether it’s here, Detroit, or wherever. There’s money to be made anywhere in the USA!
By Matthew
January 31, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this
brewerfaninATL,
I will excuse you for the double post since you are a Brewers fan. That alone garners you some pity.
The fact that Robocop was filmed in Atlanta just proves what a crap hole Detroit is and that Atlanta is a better city. The creators of the most quintessential and realistic portrayal of Detroit thought the city was too crappy to film in. That pretty much says it all.
Isn’t Milwaukee’s slogan: “At least we are not Detroit”? Milwaukee is about as scummy as Detroit. Why else would Laverne and Shirley pick up and move to California?
As far as Detroit’s culture goes, I think Atlanta can do without the yearly house burning rituals. We had enough of it with General Sherman. At least that was war, Detroiters do it for fun.
How can you tell a person in Atlanta is from Detroit? They are shaking a cup at you asking for change.
By Rob
January 31, 2006 11:49 AM | Link to this
Yeah just an ok city and why did they have it here again? Well, let’s see, how many millions does the Auto Industry spend on TV commercials during an NFL season? That’s why the game is in Detroit again. The owners are not stupid. Well, not entirely.
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 11:56 AM | Link to this
Matthew: Hey ringworm, how does Milwaukee come up in this equation? Oh, I forgot, you’ve never been there, or Detroit for that matter. I know, you’re still crying about how Tom Brady and co. were “robbed”, but again, I laugh that you bow at the very feet of a man who played at, um MICHIGAN! Nice try, dweeb! Hey, I hear your boyfriend calling, isn’t it time to play “Hide the salami?”
By dawgfan73
January 31, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
I’ve never really cared for Terence Moore’s opinion or writing, but he’s actually right about something for a change. Detroit IS a nasty, garbage-pail city- and always will be. All you “native Detroiters” have an inferiority complex for a good reason- your hometown stinks- literally. If Detroit is so great, then go back there with the rest of the miserable people still left in that ice box prison. It’ll lighten our traffic, and improve the overall looks around here.
By Liberace
January 31, 2006 01:42 PM | Link to this
My darling son, Matthew, has been petitioning the NFL to play a future Super Bowl on Brokeback Mountain.
If you recall, Brokeback Mountain is where Matty spent last summer with those two randy cowpokes … but let’s not go there again.
Anyway, Matty, don’t forget to visit me! And don’t forget to bring that GORGEOUS pink chiffon! Tootles!
By Peerless' Mama.
January 31, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
Hey,
It’s me again.
You people need to lay off Mr. TERRENCE MOORE and stop arguing with each other about punctuation or simple things like the author’s name…..although that was kind of a good point. RUDE, but a good point.
(That’s why I call him Mr. Moore.)
Mr. Moore: While you are up there can you ask around and see who needs a Wide Receiver?
Does Detroit? I think all those first rounders they have taken are nothing compared to Peerless.
Peerless needs to get a job and is tired of me telling him.
I assure you of THAT.
Oh yeah, wait a minute.
I don’t want to have to go to Detroit either to see Peerless play and the sportswriters seem to be saying that also……it’s not just Mr. Moore.
Good bye.
By Nikki
January 31, 2006 02:04 PM | Link to this
Let me first start off by saying that Detroit is not all bad. I have lived in Detroit all of my life and I have loved every bit of it. Yes there are some parts of the Detroit area that are not exactly up to par, However it is a wonderful city. I take offense to any critism by those who has never been here and only go by what they see. Especially the idiot that thinks he knows my city just because he watched some movie that was totally fictitious. Just because you watched it 17 times means nothing, it just means you know the movie not my city. Yes I am angry because I have a true passion for this city.
By Matthew
January 31, 2006 02:05 PM | Link to this
Oh, I almost forgot. Heres a picture of me hanging out with my best buddies! (Tee Hee) I’m the one on red! Ciao!!!
http://manoloshoeblog.com/images/eltontutu.jpg
By Cris Brown
January 31, 2006 02:19 PM | Link to this
You are right Terence…there are only a few good things associated with Detroit: (in some form or fashion) Rosa Parks, Magic Johnson, Motown, Barry Sanders, The Pistons and Eminem!
By Jeff
January 31, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this
Moore’s article is harsh and sometimes unfair, and yeah, the guy’s a hack, but as someone who grew up in the Detroit metro area and has since moved on, it’s not without some merit.
I hate to see people bash my hometown, and it does have a lot going for it: great sports town, rich musical history, great people, nice suburbs and it’s located in a beautiful state which is surrounded by beautiful lakes that are more like an inland ocean. But the city itself has a long way to go.
The downtown area is decent and it has been dressed up for the big game. And yes, there is a nightlife, if you look for it (See the recent NY Times article about Detroit’s club scene). But the neighborhoods are blighted and vacant land dots the city. Suburbanites fear many parts of the city and a trip there means going downtown to your destination, getting back in the car, locking the doors and getting out right away. But that said, almost all big cities have bad areas - the problem with Detroit is that the bad areas far outnumber the good areas. If the city can develop an economy outside of the auto industry (a huge if), it can come back. But its going to take a while - and columns like Mr. Moore’s aren’t going to help.
BTW, Robocop was shot primarily in Dallas, chosen by the director for its “futuristic skyline.” And Matthew, really, why all the hate for Detroit? At least visit a place before you trash it.
By Rob
January 31, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this
Weak effort from Mr. Moore. The AJC sends you to the Super Bowl and the tired “Bash Detroit” column is all you could come up with? As lame as comedians who tell Michael Jackson jokes.
Then again, I should expect as much from a “major” newspaper that apparently refuses to hire someone to copy edit the sports section.
You’re mostly right about the city, but
a. we’ve heard this millions of times before b. Detroit has plenty of problems, but every major city does too.
By LarryW....No not that Larry
January 31, 2006 02:29 PM | Link to this
Matthew has grown from one guy posting stupid S.hit…to now a legion of Matthew bloggers. I actually don’t think this is even the original guy.
Besides how seriously can you take a person that wrote a whole summary on RoboCop at 7:30am? come on. he has no job, no school, no life. He just trolling around the AJC blogs looking to kill time until it’s time to take his pills again. Please try to ignore him.
By amused
January 31, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
Weak effort. I’ve seen better from some small-town columnists who at least understood that originality beats cliches.
But, fear not, someday you’ll get canned from your Atlanta job and you can move to a new city and bash Atlanta. That’s been Jay Mariotti’s MO for years, which means you can aspire to being the next Mariotti. Ugh.
By Mark
January 31, 2006 02:44 PM | Link to this
Mr. Moore shows his limited writing skills when he bashes Detroit, which is such an easy target. Detroit is not unlike all major cities in the land, crime, blight, abandoned buildings. Beleive it or not Atlanta has these same problems but Mr. Moore chooses to throw rocks in a glass house.
By Doens't Like Detroit Either
January 31, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
They changed Stewart Ave. to Metropolitan Pkwy. But I do agree with you all. Atlanta has done so much to revitalize this city. There should be two or three major sporting events taking place in this city, hopefully, in the next 10 to 15 years if we keep up the process.
Atlanta doesn’t even support its own teams. Regardless of its improved image and city offerings, the ATL doesn’t really deserve the events that it holds on yearly basis (ie SEC Championship and SEC tournament)….let alone one of the biggest events in the world…The Super Bowl…
By Dan
January 31, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this
Thanks for another typically insightful column Terence - your decision to slam the Super Bowl site is one no other columnist would have the courage to take :)
Since it is such a hardship to attend a Super Bowl in a city that is not worthy of a visit by you, why not stay home?
By Matthew
January 31, 2006 03:19 PM | Link to this
I have an internet connection and a keyboard, therefore my opinion matters!!! PS Check me out at the EJ concert (Hee Hee) I’m the one in red! ;-)
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Other people that post as me are cowards! Hee Hee
By Chris
January 31, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Good Article Mr. Moore…. The funniest thing about your articles are your fans (the bloggers). They continuously bash you and say that you are not a good writer, but it’s funny how you are the only one at the AJC that are on ESPN or on other broadcasts. I guess that speaks volumes about the other writers or lack there of!
By Chris
January 31, 2006 03:26 PM | Link to this
Good Article Mr. Moore…. The funniest thing about your articles are your fans (the bloggers). They continuously bash you and say that you are not a good writer, but it’s funny how you are the only one at the AJC that are on ESPN or other broadcasts. I guess that speaks volumes about the other writers or lack there of!
By BirdDawg1980
January 31, 2006 04:18 PM | Link to this
How many different Matthew’s are there now?
I’m counting at least three, I think, LarryW. One on this blog, and there’s another on the Steve Wyche blog with a totally different style and unfunny schtick. None of them insightful, none of them funny. And I think you’re right… the original seems to be nowhere. He was ignorant and foul-mouthed, and if he’s gone, well, good is all that I can say. These guys are all of that, but their worst crime is in just how unfunny they are, and the space they waste. So you’re right, LarryW, let us never speak of them, or to them, again.
Back to the task at hand: Detroit.
Detroit is a stain, a blight. It makes Atlanta look like an idyllic paradise in comparison. But at least they have two papers of differing tone and opinion in Detroit, so the people there can read through two sides of garbage to try and find the truth somewhere in the middle. Here in Atlanta, we’re subjugated to only one kind of garbage, to which Mr. Moore seems to want to contribute to as much as possible.
Atlanta got gyped out of hosting a Super Bowl, and I hope Detroit freezes over and a blizzard hits Sunday morning to pay back those idiot owners like Al Davis (a close, personal friend of Mr. Moore’s), Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, and the rest of the Looney Toones posing as NFL Owners.
BTW, speaking of close personal friends of Mr. Moore: is anyone else sick and tired of the way this man consistantly and constantly name-drops in his columns? He’s worse than the jock-snifffing ESPN guys like Stuart Scott. Just an observation.
By Matthew
January 31, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
That is pretty pathetic that Detroit is so run down that they needed Dallas for a decent sky line. It figures that the only good thing to come out of Detroit, Robocop, was actually filmed in Dallas because Detroit sucked so much.
And Larry W, I do have a life you dumb uneducated redneck. I work and I go to community college and eventually I will go to UGA. I also talk to a lot of hot chicks every day on the internet. Just because you don’t have my extensive knowledge of the cinema doesn’t mean you have to try to be the “big man” by bashing my Robocop review.
By DavidU
January 31, 2006 04:42 PM | Link to this
This column was unnecessary, did anyone learn anything new from it? Months before the NFL playoffs even started Detroit was labeled (right or wrong….never been there) as a wasteland where only the homeless and hooligans spend their time. What was the point of writing about it. Just because a column had to be written to justify Mr. Moore’s trip to the SB? I don’t get it. He could have saved ink space plus web space and just written: “Detroit = Baghdad post ‘Shock and Awe’ campaign…..rep your city, Atlanta vs Detroit…ready, set, go”. and gotten the same point across and the same argument between the bloggers.
On a positive note Mr. Moore did not involve racism in this column. way to go!
By BirdDawg1980
January 31, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this
Get a life, “Matthew”!
By Brandi
January 31, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this
The city of Hell, Michigan will have frozen over when Terrence Moore steps foot in the great Great Lakes State. I sure hope you don’t expect your inflammatory comments (most of which are urban legend), to earn you a literary award. Besides, I really do not think you believe what you wrote about Detroit. Anyone who wholeheartedly believes what you claim to be true would be foolish to write such an article (especially in the information age) and then visit this “pig” of a city. We in the Renaissance City respectfully disagree with your sentiments and hope that when you leave there will likewise be a renaissance in your persuasive writing skills.
By Brandi
January 31, 2006 05:25 PM | Link to this
By the way, Atlanta is a beautiful city. However, it has it’s issues like every other city. How about that little economic flight thing we call “urban sprawl.” [People like] Terrence Moore? In Detroit? There goes the neighborhood. I hope Mr. Moore and I aren’t related since Moore is a family name. In that case, welcome home Terry baby!!!
By Ghandi
January 31, 2006 05:58 PM | Link to this
Matthew, whats up with the Robo Cop essay? That really doesnt have much to do with anything. I really dont think anyone read more than two sentences into your post. You might need to serously sit down and reevaluate your life.
By BirdDawg1980
January 31, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this
I’ve touched a boy before. His name was Matt…(oh, no).
By BirdDawg1980
January 31, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this
Matthew, stop acting like a child, and just talk sports. It’s far past the getting old stage.
By Native Detroiter
January 31, 2006 08:49 PM | Link to this
Like most have said, if u have never been detroit DONT COMMENT ON IT, and if u are basing your views on the city by what the news or others portray, i feel sorry for you. Honestly i was VERY disappointed when i visted atlanta, all this HYPE and nothing. Two things atlanta have over detroit is WEATHER, and the fact that it has 4 HBCUs in the heart of the city as well as 4-5 other major universities in the area. And in having that you have folks that come from smaller cities for school and decide to put roots there rather than go home. How many of these people who have comments were BORN AND RAISED in atlanta, not many probably. Detroit is the only major city where u have affluent neighborhoods IN THE CITY limits not buckhead, stone mountain or wherever. How many of your addresses actually say ATLANTA. Its not just the Superbowl, its the baseball all star game, the ryder cup, the NCAA tourney in the near future. and oh yeah ask the AKAs how bad detroit sucks after they leave i guarantee they will enjoy their national convention
and trust me i would rather be the murder capital rather than the san francisco of the east (the new haven for homosexuality) detroit to the heart!!!
By brewerfaninATL
January 31, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this
You talk to hot girls on the internet, huh Matthew? Hmmmm, what is it about them that is so appealing, their Adams Apples or their facial hair? And you’re still rambling on about Robocop, a worthless piece of junk dungbeetles wouldn’t even go near…I rank it right up there with that other cinematic masterpiece Ishtar! Anyways, go back to studying elementary Reading. Remember, when you’re reading the phrase, “Matthew is a flaming homosexual”, homosexual is ONE word!! Get lost and stay gone, you maggot!
By Dana
January 31, 2006 09:17 PM | Link to this
First and foremost I would like to point out that East Pointe and the Eastside of Detroit are two seperate and mutually existing places, so please get your facts right when posting. Second, I would like to say that I just left from Atlanta this week and I am impressed with the city. I am originally from Detroit, and I don’t see the point of hating on another city for whatever random reason. And excuse me for pulling the race card, I would never hate on a predominately black city, nor would I prominately display the misfortune of a large quantity of lay-offs (which are happening nationwide, by the way) to justify my hate. It is unfortunate for lay-offs and crimes to happen anywhere and as Americans, (black, white, yellow, chartreuse, etc.), I think we should strive to make our country better as whole instead of picking apart each individual city. So now that I am off my soapbox I will continue packing for my Superbowl trip to my home city. Quit crying and hating, maybe you can win the Superbowl bid for 2011.
By Matthew
January 31, 2006 10:06 PM | Link to this
brewerfaninATL,
You have some serious issues, you should seek help. How can anyone in their right mind not like Robocop? That alone discredits any opinion you have about sports period.
As far as all the hot chicks I talk to on the internet, don’t hate the playa, hate the game.
BirdDawg1980,
I don’t know what you mean about touching me you sicko, but I am trying to talk sports. You are the one picking on me and talking about touching me, ect. For heaven’s sake you redneck loser, get a life. If you want to talk about sports then talk about sports and leave me alone.
By BirdDawg
January 31, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this
Brewerfan, who the heck is this village idiot? I’ve asked others, and no one really seems to know. They say it’s a couple of people, but I’m getting tired of his schtick. Aren’t there monitors here? In other blogs I’ve been on, there always has been monitors to make sure people don’t abuse the blogging privlages, not just with cursing and such, but with just plain idiocy as well.
By Ghandi
January 31, 2006 10:41 PM | Link to this
Matthew, you’re the one with the essay on Robo Cop!!!!! YOU talk about sports!!!
By samuel
January 31, 2006 11:23 PM | Link to this
Matthew and BirdDawg are the same guy! Nice try Mattster!