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Jackets think Emerald Bowl is no gem


Mark Bradley

The Georgia Tech players are doing their best to put on a united happy face, but sometimes one of them breaks ranks. During a media gathering Wednesday, publicist Mike Stamus — acting as the interviewer in Tech’s satellite feed package — asked tailback P.J. Daniels what he thought when he learned the Jackets were bound for the Emerald Bowl.

Said Daniels: “We got screwed.”

Said Stamus, turning to his cameraman: “We won’t use that part.”

The Jackets have become connoisseurs, for want of a better word, of the far-flung fete. Over the last five winters, Tech has been an invited guest in Seattle, San Jose, Boise and now San Francisco. (Last December’s rare appearance in the Eastern Time Zone — the Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando — happened only because Virginia decided to take exams rather than travel the week before Christmas.) That’s some recruiting pitch: Sign with us, young man, and you’ll cover more Western terrain than Lewis and Clark.

“I’d never been to California before my freshman year [meaning the Silicon Valley Classic],” said Chris Reis, the safety from Roswell. “And I’d never been to Boise [the Humanitarian Bowl].”

These weren’t complaints Reis was issuing; they were, on the contrary, endorsements of the broadening that comes with travel. Every collegiate player’s preference would be to suit up in Pasadena on Jan. 4, 2006, but only the heavyweights Southern Cal and Texas get to do that. “You always want to be in a bigger bowl,” Reis said. Failing that, what’s wrong with seeing some sights and making a few memories?

“I don’t think any of the guys wanted to go to Boise,” Daniels said, “but that was a great trip. A lot of us had never snow-skiied or snowmobiled before. I think about that a lot.”

He also has reason to recall the game itself. Daniels gained 307 yards against Tulsa that day, the second-biggest rushing yield in school history. So maybe something good with happen against Utah in SBC Park, which isn’t the place the 49ers play but is instead the baseball stadium that nuzzles up to San Francisco Bay. (And please, no jokes about Reggie Ball overthrowing Calvin Johnson so egregiously that the ball splashes in McCovey Cove.)

Speaking of whom: Ball can cite chapter and verse on how a mediocre bowl can generate an outsized return. He arrived in Orlando not sure if he’d be Tech’s quarterback in 2005, and he left as the bowl MVP, left having thrown a hammerlock on the job. Some Jackets will think unkind thoughts about the Emerald — which is named for a snack nut, not some rare gem — but not Mr. Ball.

“It’s just an opportunity to play another game,” he said. “That’s all I wanted. Once I knew we had that, I was satisfied.”

Is Tech too good for its bowl? Absolutely. You beat two Top 10 teams and finish the regular season in the Top 25, and your reward is a 6-5 opponent on a Thursday afternoon in Barry Bonds’ bailiwick? “I thought we’d be going somewhere else,” Daniels said, “but this is just how everything unfolded. Other teams didn’t go where they thought they would — Boston College, for example. You have to make the best of it.”

And surely the Jackets will. The Silicon Valley flop against Fresno State notwithstanding, they’ve become the scourge of the lower-rung bowls. They’ve won their last two postseason games by the aggregate score of 103-24, and they should hang five or six touchdowns on Utah. And they’ll ride the famous trolley and take a tour of Alcatraz and come back with a big trophy and be home in plenty of time to watch the big bowls on TV.

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By SugarDawg

December 21, 2005 08:26 PM | Link to this

Maybe you guys should join the WAC, being you’re so used to playing there. GO DAWGS!!

By GJJ

December 21, 2005 08:41 PM | Link to this

Poor Tech….baseball season is only a few months away…….

By Ralph

December 21, 2005 09:02 PM | Link to this

Poor Muttlanders, if any of them had a peg leg, they would be [crap] on a stick.

By FishwaterDawg

December 21, 2005 09:40 PM | Link to this

I, for one, think Tech will be outstanding in the Emerald Nut Bowl. Braine is organizing a huge pep rally at Alcatrez before kickoff. There is a rumor a sack lunch will be provided by the GTAA, but we cannot confirm that at this time. It’s “Sting Time”!

By Matt

December 21, 2005 09:43 PM | Link to this

They might be able to go visit the Balco company and actually become a half-way decent program.

By FishwaterDawg

December 21, 2005 09:44 PM | Link to this

Hey GB4GT…I feel your pain brother. Oh wait, no I don’t. We are playing in a BCS bowl after winning the SEC Championship. Here’s to laughing at the GT football program and as for the Dawgs…life is good and sweet, sUGAr sweet.

By vetteDAWG

December 21, 2005 09:51 PM | Link to this

Hold on one second while I put my leg back on ——— Let’s see bee’s. You are playing a 6 - 5 team, ACC caliber.You are playing in a Baseball Stadium that has a capacity of 38437 - you should feel right @ home. It is the ” NUT ” Bowl - enough said about that. Had ya’ll beaten N.C. State & or Virginia you would NOT be going across the country to play in “Gay” town. YOU HAVE to STOP losing to to inferior teams & win 8 or 9 games a year before the Bowls will take you seriously - that is the bottom line.

By GB4GT

December 21, 2005 09:52 PM | Link to this

The ACC has revamped all it’s bowls. The Gator will no longer have the #2 pick come 2006. They will switch with the Peach. also the ACC will dictate to the bowls who they think should go to which bowls. This has een a total embarrasment to the ACC as far as the bowls are concerned and they have admitted as much. The ship will be righted next year. GT will beta the crap out of UTAH. Man if ever there was a mismatch this is it. The players are p** tyhe coaches are p** and if ever there was a b*** to be had this will be it. Go to the bank and bet the ranch on GT. GT in bowls check the records and then sht up. What a great team throughout history!!! How many National Championships has UGA won. Nuff said!!!!

By JD

December 21, 2005 10:26 PM | Link to this

You guys are all such dorks!

By vetteDAWG

December 21, 2005 10:37 PM | Link to this

Hey JD : Take it easy on the Jackets - They can’t help it.

By Uncle Joe

December 21, 2005 10:41 PM | Link to this

The Tech players shouldn’t take playing in the Emerald Nut Bowl so hard. (1) Tech doesn’t really deserve to play in any bowl; (2) San Francisco offers magnificent opportunities to enjoy the sights of America’s most picturesque city; (3) Tech’s new pink uniforms will be wildly popular in San Francisco, and (4) just imagine 60,000 gays males staring at the Tech players’ fannies. That should make Tech feel appreciated.

By JD

December 21, 2005 10:46 PM | Link to this

Dude, vetteDawg (whatever that means), I am talking about everyone. All anyone does here is act like they’re 6 and yell about how their dad can beat up your dad.

And how can anyone say that they don’t deserve to play in a bowl? Two teams in the country beat two top 10 teams. They are SC and Tech. A little reason here would be welcome.

By Robert

December 21, 2005 11:03 PM | Link to this

Ah, yes….. The mutt posters on this blog remind me why I prefer GA Tech.

By starwars4life

December 21, 2005 11:12 PM | Link to this

1). if the team visits Alcatraz, does Reuben Houston go willingly?

2). something is just right about Techies going to San Francisco, I hear it’s fabulous!!!

By David L

December 21, 2005 11:16 PM | Link to this

Lets Go dawgs…sugar is sweet baby. Lets get dem gay jackets. WOOF WOOF WOOF. I been done gone to da sugga bowl before and its so dang sweet. Those jackets dont deserve no dang bowl cause they are stupid and gay. WOOF WOOF WOOF. GOOOOO DAWGS, SIC EM’. I didnt even go to Georgia and have no affiliation with the school but i was born and raised a dawg so ill continue to ride the bandwagon and be a fan for as long as we win dem SEC championships.

By DawgsDumbasDirt

December 21, 2005 11:35 PM | Link to this

How many points is a 3 point basket worth Dawgs? You bunch of ‘necks…go grab some Skoal and go pull for Hargrave Military to get another hard fought win.

By Colorado

December 22, 2005 12:04 AM | Link to this

Just moved here from Colorado near Boulder and CU Buffs nightmare. You should listen to JD and should be proud of both teams. UGA and GT are both very good teams, but as much as I hate Texas, they would easily beat both Georgia teams. It’s amazing how big college football is here. In Colorado, nobody even cares if CU plays. I enjoyed that UGA-GT game and hope they both win their bowl games. Who should I start rooting for? UGA, GT, or Florida!

By Julie P Montgomery

December 22, 2005 01:15 AM | Link to this

Hmmmm …… let’s see now. Emerald Bowl, huh? As in Dorothy, Toto, Aunt Em, et al … and the Emerald City of Oz.

Okay, that explains it. The Yellow Jackets are obviously off to see the Wizard!

P.S. Go Dawgs!

By JacketinIraq

December 22, 2005 03:11 AM | Link to this

Colorado - welcome to Georgia. You asked who you should root for, I obviously am going to tell you Georgia Tech, but I am biased. If you want to pull for the school that has been top ten for the last 5 years but has sold its soul to the devil, I say root for UGA. If you think the interview with Tim Jennings after the GT game was with a college educated man, pull for those Dawgs. But if you want to root for the underdog, the school that overcomes seemingly insurmountable odds to succeed at the highest levels of college athletics, you have to cheer for the Wreck. It all comes down to a simple truth. UGA vs. GT = USSR hockey vs. USA hockey in the 1980 Winter olympics. They have everything going for them (UGA = USSR), but it just feels right to pull for us (GT = USA).

By Alabama Jack

December 22, 2005 04:06 AM | Link to this

One more time. Cows give us milk, bees give us honey, dawgs give us stuff to wipe off the bottom of our shoes.

By Sonny Perdue

December 22, 2005 06:19 AM | Link to this

JOHN: Everything you just posted is just like your school, nobody cares. Cry baby.

By Tech Man in Athens

December 22, 2005 07:00 AM | Link to this

Play football at Tech and get your degree. Regardless of your record you have a degree from GT. Play football for UGA, go 11-0, get your degree. You will have wonderful football memories and a degree that gets you nowhere. How do I know, I have a degree from UGA—that and $1.50 will get you a cup of java. All job opportunities start with “degree required.” With a degree from GT everyone knew you had to work for it with no crip courses to keep you on the gridiron.

Someone said it before, once there were no charges to blog, the UGA fans turned out en masse. I’ll bet a breakfast at Cracker Barrel that less than 10% don’t have a degree from anywhere much less UGA.

By kudzu

December 22, 2005 07:06 AM | Link to this

Honestly Coach G, I would not take my team to the GayBayBowl. Freaking lunatics; I’m tired of these bowl games 3000 miles from home. It does not make sense to me. How do you take your fans? Crap… “Freaking Sissy Bowl” I guess though if Tech could figure out how to play “good, big, tough, smashmout, foozball” like the mutts up the road; we might have a much better chance of playing with the bigger boys on or after Jan 1st. Meanwhile we get to settle for the dregs…SanFran…”ooo, maybe the team could sight see while they’re there and go see napa valley”…crap.

By Brad Stephens

December 22, 2005 07:14 AM | Link to this

Jacket in Iraq, first off, I assume you are or have been in active duty, my thanks to you. Other than that, what the ???. USA and USSR?? Tech and UGA BOTH have some real interview masters that make you wonder where their first grade English teacher went wrong. And John, the ‘cesspool’ in Athens is one of the best institutions in the land. As Tech is a engineering giant close behind MIT, UGA is a leader in many areas such as law, environmental sciences, and journalism. It is the flagship institution of the state, with many more IN-STATE grads (not only due to larger enrollment, but half of our grads don’t head back home to Beijing and Delhi), therefore explaining the larger media presence. I still have a ton of respect for both Tech academics and athletics. UGA has had its share of embarassing stories since the Jan Kemp incident. GT joined the club the last two years, maybe it could have sooner. It’ll be easy to step off that high-horse you’ve been riding on John, the legs were chopped out from under it.

By legalman

December 22, 2005 07:29 AM | Link to this

Does Mark Bradley ever have anything positive to say about Georgia Tech Football?

Recent articles from your paper show that the ACC office screwed up and has admiited so in the proposed changes.

By Jon

December 22, 2005 08:04 AM | Link to this

“By SugarDawg

Alabama Jack O*!, One more time. Chickens give us egggs, hogs give us bacon, Gnats fly around DAWGS peckers.”

That pretty much sums up the thought process of Dog Fans (who still can’t spell their own mascot). If you’d like to join their ranks, you have my deepest pity.

By Antdogg

December 22, 2005 08:12 AM | Link to this

I love my Jackets and I hate that I won’t be able to go to the bowl game yet again because it’s on the other side of the world. But let’s be for real Tech Fans. VetteDawg is right. If we had not lost to NC State, Virginia, and Georgia which were all winnable games, we wouldn’t be in a position to get screwed by the bowl committees. Handle your business on the field and you won’t have to worry about the rest of this bull. And, to all you UGA folks out there, you don’t have all that much to gloat about either. You need to handle your business as well. With all the NFL talent you guys have had on your team in the Mark Richt Era, you should be playing USC for a chance at your 3rd National Championship in a row. If you had handled your business on the field at Florida and Auburn, you’d be on your way to Atlanta, but you’d be going to the Airport to fly to Pasedena, not to the Airport Hilton.

By john

December 22, 2005 08:29 AM | Link to this

Brad: Understand I have a lot of respect for the University and its academic standing. It certainly has come a long, long way in 30 years from being a party school to a true institute the state can be proud of.

But your non-alumni fans……….ya gotta do something about them! Each and every time this paper writes an article about Tech, good or bad, and there is a “comments” section for people to post, I have to wade through dozens of posts from UGA fans that always want to pile on Tech. Why is that? Why do your fans seem to think it so important to their lives that they have to play the “rub it in” game? So UGA has a much better sports program. So what? Is that more important to YOU as a UGA alumn? Is your degree more important to you than the fact that your football program won the SEC? Why do so many non-UGA grad people hitch their wagons up to your school and drag you along with the many other leaders in this state down to their level? Why do you put up with the trailer-trash that shout at LSU fans, “KATRINA KATRINA KATRINA!!”

As a Georgia College graduate and just a Tech fan, I treat myself as a guest whenever I attend Tech games or participate in online forums like this. I try to conduct myself as if I were a guest in a Buckhead mansion. I do not behave as if I were an uncouth boor like a good number of your fans do at games and here. I just wish that UGA fans would simply leave us alone and let us enjoy our team.

I could have been a UGA fan when I was younger. But a friend took me to a game back in ’70s and I was mortified at the behavior of a good number of UGA fans toward the visiting fans. That turned me off right then and I was 14 years old!

Until you UGA alumns get a handle on your pickup truck alumni and let them know they make you look bad, you will also be guilty by association of having bad fans.

john

By pathetic

December 22, 2005 08:46 AM | Link to this

This is pathetic. Is anyone in here being serious? These people criticizing Georgia are acting exactly the way they are badmouthing Georgia for acting. Ironic to say the least. Tech fans really seem to have no grasp on where their football program stands, and they refuse to believe where UGA ranks. You’re really scraping the barrell when you criticize Georgia for not playing in the national championship this year, or asking how many national championships they have won. And before you get on me, I’m from Ohio and I couldn’t care less about either program. I enjoy reading these posts though and I’ve noticed a lot of academics-this, academics-that coming from the Tech fans and it sounds like a cop out to me. Tech is on probation right now for some sort of academics infraction (you can tell me a lot more about it) so it seems like what Tech is hangs there hat on was somewhat of a farce. By the looks of these posts, I can see why Tech isn’t respected but I’ll chalk this off as the lunatic fringe fan base talking.

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 08:48 AM | Link to this

Ignore the Dawg input - just skip over them like I do.

As for Tech, if we had taken care of our business against NC State particularly, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. But just once, I would like to see Tech show some integrity and turn down the unacceptable bowl game. Tell the ACC to give it to someone else and stay home - save the money and still get a distribution of bowl proceeds from all the other games, just like UNC and Duke are going to get for staying home!

Let’s just pray that our cable TV goes out like it did for the Silicon Valley Bowl and I won’t have to watch this junk.

By pathetic

December 22, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this

I agree with Other Mark, simply for the reason that any school or program with a huge fan base is going to have some loose cannons. I don’t know why it bothers some people so much. I work with some Georgia people and some Tech people and they both seem okay to me.

By Mike

December 22, 2005 09:03 AM | Link to this

Every little doggy has it’s day. This season is the highpoint of many UGA alumnis lives. Its’ something they will cherish for a lifetime. Let them enjoy it. As for the techies, it’s time to hit the books for a while.

By Clay

December 22, 2005 09:05 AM | Link to this

Wow, so much hate on the GT blog makes me wonder: How do you really feel about playing in the Emerald Bowl? First of all, Mark Bradley is not saying Tech got “screwed”—PJ Daniels is. If the Tech players have this big of a chip on their shoulders, they will get spanked like they did in the Silicon Valley Classic a few years back. BG4GT says the Jackets deserved the Peach Bowl and for UGA fans to “put that in your pipe and smoke it” like we should be impressed with that or something. You forget, BG4GT, that you’re trying to ram the Peach Bowl down the throats of folks going to a BCS bowl. Not going to happen. DawgsDumasDirt makes the wonderful basketball reference when he apparently forgot that UGA beat GT in both men’s and women’s basketball not too long ago. Priceless. JacketinIraq (thank you for your service; and, if you’re still there, stay safe) tries to link UGA to the old USSR. That’s just sad. DavidL is under the impression UGA fans have no ties to the school. I graduated from UGA in 1991. When did you graduate from Tech? john says UGA is “scandal ridden” when it is GT that is on probation for using ineligible athletes in multiple sports. GT had to vacate dozens of football wins (including the last three against UGA) and your team is suffering through reduced scholorships as a result of your scandals. I also liked john’s statement of “Even the state’s political leaders tend to ignore GT.” Look it up—Georgia’s governors are UGA grads. Perdue even played football there. TechManinAthens touts the highly desirable Tech degree and the great job one will give you—yet no Tech alumns can afford to take the trip to SF based on your school’s ticket sales. Finally, Antdoggs, even at 12-0, UGA would not be in Pasadena as USC and Texas are undefeated as well. UGA would have been this years Auburn at 12-0.

You all need to quit whining and being jealous and take care of business. Then you would not have to whine or worry about how superior UGA is.

By Jimbo

December 22, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this

Come on John, here you go with that tired old Tech whine about how unfair it is that UGA has fans that aren’t alumni. I’ll tell you what whine boy, if the Trade school refused to allow anyone to attend a Tech game who wasn’t an alum the bugs could play their home games at Grady High School and have plenty of empty seats available for visitors. You just don’t get it do you? UGA is more popular because it is the flagship of this states university system ,offering virtually any academic discipline, other than engineering, with alumni in every town and county from one end of the state to the other. Sure UGA has some rude, obnoxious fans but Tech is the only place that I know where the garbage thrown from the student section makes the visitors sideline a hazard zone. The storied tradition of Tech’s football ended when Dodd retired because he couldn’t bring in 90-100 recruits per year, mostly to make sure that he didn’t have to compete against those players if they went to another school; and yes, I know that all the other schools did the same thing. Dodd knew that scholarship limitations and the limited curriculum at Tech would make it impossible to be a consistent big winner. Dave Braine simply admitted as much after 40 years of denial at the Flats. The occasional outstanding football team at Tech is merely an aberration, the Bees may be competetive but they’ll never be a consistent power. As for the rest of the athletic programs at Tech the records speak for themselves, the Jackets are “0” for forever in national championships in all other sports, mens and womens. I don’t think that the Nerd Herd got screwed in the bowl system, there are too many bowls and that is the only reason that mediocre teams like GT and Utah haven’t already packed up their equipment until spring practice begins. Tech couldn’t beat the other mediocres (UVA, NC State, etc.) and that is why Tech keeps going on cross country jaunts to bowl games that no one even knew existed until the Jackets landed there. Springing an occasional upset on one of the better programs in college football doesn’t qualify a team to play in the BCS and reap the financial windfall, consistently beating the NC State’s of the world gets you to the next level. Lastly your whine about fans can be justified by reminding you that the winners always celebrate and gloat, and the losers always whine and make excuses. Don’t be such a thin skinned cry baby, shrug your shoulders and go on with your life and the insults won’t seem so painful. Or, are you one of those loudmouth Nerds who always lets his ten gallon mouth overload his half pint fanny and then cries when the payback comes? If you don’t run your yap then you won’t have to contend with eating crow, of course that takes away most of the fun from playing the games. So in summation, quit whining like a nerd on the playground, the big kids will always pick on you, it’s part of growing up.

By Greg

December 22, 2005 09:18 AM | Link to this

I just can’t stop getting a kick out of Georgia fans pumping up their SEC championship. Granted in almost any other year, that would indeed be a great feat, but let’s face it, you lost to the two best teams in your conference during the regular season and exposed a fundamentally unsound LSU team in the SECC game.

As time goes by, maybe history will be more kind and not remember how down the SEC was this year, but in the meantime, quit pounding your chest like you conquered the world. You had a nice season, now have fun with a mediocre team in the Sugar Bowl.

By Jim

December 22, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

Wonder why it is that UGA fans just can’t be nice?

By CJacketFan

December 22, 2005 09:27 AM | Link to this

I don’t see what the big deal is. The only bowl that matters is the one in Pasedena this year. All the other bowls are just gravy.

As for a few UGA fans on here… Wow, you just feed the stereotype of what people perceive UGA fans to be…inbred, biggot, truck tailgating idiots. I’m sure some UGA fans have class, but the idiots like to post here more often.

By Dave

December 22, 2005 09:33 AM | Link to this

Notice a theme here? Tech fans are bitter, nasty little people with a microchip on their shoulders. Things just don’t change. Georgia fans talk about the positive (because we have good things to talk about) and Tech fans whine and moan and sling barbs (pathetic though they are). Techies, just be glad you still have a football team with Dave Braine and Chan on board. And take a cue from the Dawgs this holiday season, be happy with your life, appreciate what you have…

Like those two fans…

By southgadawg

December 22, 2005 09:36 AM | Link to this

GO UTES!!!!!!!!!

By phil

December 22, 2005 09:38 AM | Link to this

Ha Ha Ha

You Techies have some nerve complaining about the Emerald Bowl! Playing a game in Gaytown on a baseball field is no shame! Your football team is though! Why don’t GT just give up on there football program? You still have golf and baseball.

                   signed
               stayin' home eatin' sugar

By jimbo

December 22, 2005 09:44 AM | Link to this

Wow Jimbo..

You just played the typical stereotype UGA fan to the hilt. Even condoning the poor behavior of your fans.

I don’t think you will ever see Tech fans condone the behavior of their students and fans when there was garbage thrown at Bear and Notre Dame years ago. That was a stain that we will never live down. Even peeing on visiting fans from the upper deck does not match that! Thanks for reminding me.

Again, you UGA grads simply don’t care what the rest of your fan base does or how they behave. When you see and read about such behavior, you just shrug it off and laugh about it.

Maybe the best thing for Georgia and Georgia Tech to do is this: End the rivalry. Period. No more competition between the schools in any sport. You go your way and we will go our way. That way, maybe there can be some civility and peace between the two fan base. God help us all if Tech were ever get to the point where they can play .500 against UGA over a 20 year period, or even win against UGA more than they lose.

Like I wrote in my last post before this one, all we want to do is enjoy our team without the typical trash being thrown in by you and your fans. When I read this online, I want to read about Tech. I don’t read about UGA nor do I care about UGA and what they are doing. Nor do I waste my time posting on UGA blogs and message boards.

I just don’t understand the obsession you and your fellow UGA travelers have over Tech. You claim we aren’t your rivals, but you sure act like that if we were to ever become your equal on the playing field, the universe would implode.

john

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 09:47 AM | Link to this

If you’re going to bring Dodd into this, at least do some research. Dodd supported a push in the 60’s to limit scholarships in the SEC and was opposed on that by The Bear, among others. When the SEC voted down the initiative, Tech decided to withdraw from the SEC. Not saying it was good or bad, but s_ happens.

Eventually, the NCAA did the deed and they imposed the limits that Dodd and others in the SEC had proposed. And whether you like them or not, it had the desired result of keeping teams with unlimited resources like Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas - from taking all the best players and winning all the championships. UGA even benefitted from that because in those days UGA did not have the resources they have today.

Dodd was ahead of his time. You’re right from the standpoint that we have not been right since - except for the Ross and O’Leary years - but even those were not Dodd.

By CRB

December 22, 2005 09:48 AM | Link to this

I never bother reading the UGA articles. Why is it so many UGA fans feel the need to post garbage in the GT blogs?

By Leonard Pope

December 22, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this

Know I is on schedule to go to a bowl game.

By Jim

December 22, 2005 10:00 AM | Link to this

So if Tech had been invited to the Music City Bowl, life would be somehow better?? No Mark, they didn’t get screwed. It’s the bowl system. Nobody outside of the two teams playing cares about the games anymore. Other than USC/Texas what games will anybody watch? Quick: who played last night and what was the score? Unless you bet money on it, you wouldn’t know.

You Tech fans whining on this blog are embarrassing yourselves. UGA this UGA that… There is more to life than comparing yourselves to someone else. Go do something with your life.

By Red Fox

December 22, 2005 10:06 AM | Link to this

The only decent advise given here was to take GT and the points…listen people, seriously!

By Clif

December 22, 2005 10:08 AM | Link to this

Hey GB4GT, you are one classy individual!

By midatlantech

December 22, 2005 10:12 AM | Link to this

Colorado: When choosing between two teams in the state just take a hard look at the two’s responses here:

There are about ten ignorant responses alone referencing The Gay Bowl, or similar. Check out where they come from and the level of their intellect.

There are multiple responses about UGA locking up the state and how their alumni become governors. This is all true. But then look around and see who’s nationally and internationally known as a major university and who’s alumni become presidents. Tech fans just think bigger.

Then look at the next level of ignorant posts about all the Asians, etc at Tech. Please understand that this hurt comes from the fact that so many uneducated UGA graduates have lost their jobs running the cards in the textile plants to those same Asians. They whine; Tech’s competing globally.

Lastly, take note that only recently did UGA equal Tech’s number of SEC championships, even though we’ve been out of the SEC for 40 years. But the one that really gets them whining is that we own 4 National Championships to their 1. And that we had to help them win that 1 really gets them squeeling. Of course, this is when the topic shifts from “Football is all that matters, to how many NC has Tech won in women’s gymnastics?”

The decision is easy, BUT you still got five downs and a phantom clipping call in 1990!

By jerry

December 22, 2005 10:15 AM | Link to this

Are you nerds really that dense and simple? You keep asking why UGA fans post nasty comments on the Nerd Blog. Easy to understand, it is so easy to pick on Nerds and the result is always the same, “go away, you hurt my feelings, don’t say bad things about me, if you don’t stop I’ll go tell my mommy.” You all get picked on because you are such crybabies. It is fun to watch a nerd squirm and try to make excuses for another miserable failure year in football, and now we’ll probably have to hear the same recycled excuses for basketball. Maybe you all can come up with something new for baseball and golf, but it will probably be the tired old trite “academics, calculus, non-alumni fans,” crap that you spew every time that your weak sister programs don’t live up to your pipe dreams. Face facts nerd herd, you all are the red headed step child of the sports programs in this state and everyone is embarrassed by you but, things wouldn’t be so bad if you would quit calling attention to your short comings by insisting that you are on a par with the big time athletic programs and stay in your place among the Temples and St. Bonaventures of the NCAA, good but nothing to get excited about.

By GT

December 22, 2005 10:17 AM | Link to this

The Sugar Bowl might as well stayed in New Orlean with the game they are stuck with. I bet the Peach Bowl draws better numbers on television. How did the SEC get stuck playing the worst conference in football. You have at least five teams in the ACC that could beat West Virginia, probably more like eight. There even three or four teams in the SEC that could beat them. Enjoy you “bowl trip” Georgia. Yall walking or driving?

By YellOJacket

December 22, 2005 10:20 AM | Link to this

Pathetic…The comments directed towards UGA fans are usually in response to their fans attitude that “only” UGA has a football program with any tradition and their belittling of Tech. UGA fans tend to ignore Tech’s 4 national championship vs UGA’s 1, that Tech is usually ranked several notches above UGA in ratings of football “tradition”, and that Tech’s most recent championship was 1990.

Academics and probation: I always want to laugh when any UGA fan even attempts to compare academics at the two schools. My brother went to both, ask him. He’ll tell you that at Tech he worked harder for a single C than he worked for an entire quarter of A’s at UGA. I may be incorrect on the probation issue, but my understanding was that most of the issue was Tech’s misapplication of NCAA rules and reporting several players who had passed classes (but with D’s) as making adequate progress towards a degree. (Because at Tech most grades below C do NOT count and the class must be re-taken.) When the error was discovered (by Tech)it was reported to the NCAA (by Tech). This one probation is after over 100 years of football. Contrast this with UGA being tied for number 3 on the list of programs with NCAA infractions. Finally, student-athletes at Tech are (believe it or not) actually students. About half are management majors, which compared to engineering at Tech is easy but still requires calculus and statistics. Tech doesn’t have really hard majors for athletes such as Turf Management or Sports and Recreation Management as some (UGA UGA UGA) colleges do.

The truth of the matter is that for most of the recent past UGA’s football program has been better than Tech’s. UGA also has a large percentage of their athletes that could not gain entry to Tech due to the academic requirements. Tech starts with an enormous disadvantage, but sometimes David does win out over Goliath.

And just so I can earn my “lunatic fringe” stripes:

Did you ever notice that in Biblical paintings Satan is always painted in Red and Black, but that Angels are always White with a Gold halo? Coincidence? I think not…..

By PerfectDawg

December 22, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

Scandalous program? UGA runs a dirty program? Come on….we have the cleanest coach in the country running our program and our athletic department. Get for real losers. UGA is the team to watch and root for. From great team play, awesome QB’s and LB’s, all the way to recruiting…UGA is top ten or five in everything! SO stick that up your UTAH’s jackets. Chan Gailey couldn’t even get you alol in the top 25 in recruiting or anything. By the way, wantto play some basketball some times soon…LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO DAWGS!

By derek

December 22, 2005 10:26 AM | Link to this

Auburn has 1 SEC loss. All other SEC teams have at least 2. That means Auburn is the REAL champ of the Sleazy Ethics Conference.

Miami has 2 ACC losses. This ties them with VT for the least in conference losses. Miami has the heads up win between the two.

GT beat them both in their own stadiums.

But that’s ok s* sniffers. I’m sure you could all care less about how you backed your way into the championship game against the 2nd best team in the west.

You can have the sugar against a worthless opponent that can only hurt you. Yet again the dome will have to endure the public urinating spineless human trash that is the UGA nation.

How many anniversaries are we going to have to endure in 2006 over the lone national championship. How many times do we have to read Bark Madley’s articles on that glorious year. That year that was nothing without TECH beating Notre Dame.

Try actually earning a championship s* sniffers then MAYBE, just MAYBE we will actually respect one stinking word out of your worthless pipes.

By Dawg

December 22, 2005 10:28 AM | Link to this

Hey GB4GT….such anger….maybe if you had a team you didn’t have to “defend” you would be in a better place emotionally. As for us….things are sooooooo sweet!!! Go Dawgs…oh, and by the way- its much better to control your own destiny than having to talk about someone elses meltdown.

By Burnt Orange

December 22, 2005 10:29 AM | Link to this

31-30.

This year’s Sugar Bowl is pretty much a battle over who has the nicer trailer.

By Is derek a GT fan?

December 22, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this

If so, I think he undermines the suggestion that only UGA fans are classless.

By PerfectDawg

December 22, 2005 10:32 AM | Link to this

Oh yes. I forget, the runner up is the first loser. And AUBURN wasn’t even the runner up so that makes them….THIRD. They lost the game they shouldn’t have…LSU. Whining for Auburn makes you sound just like a gnat whining about EVERYTHING! From Football to Basketball, us beating your arses will never change! TWELVE in a row if Im not badly mistaken in football!

By John

December 22, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

We have Chan Gailey to thanks for these mediocre bowl-bids.

By Jacket Fan

December 22, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

We didn’t get a good bowl b/c of ‘Money’, not because of our record. Even Bradley notes us being in the top 25 and beating Auburn and Miami.

We got screwed, it’s that simple.

By GoDawg

December 22, 2005 10:35 AM | Link to this

Hey Jackettes and GB4GT and Derek specifically….that’s the difference between Dawgs and jackettes….we win chamionships…you spend the entire winter trying to justify what went wrong…..the only worthless opponent we played this year was you nerds.

By YellOJacket

December 22, 2005 10:38 AM | Link to this

PerfectDawg….You are incorrect. Tech vacating games does not mean that UGA won them. It is as if the games never took place. No winner, no loser. What you imply would require a forfeit, which has not been ordered.

By Ice

December 22, 2005 10:38 AM | Link to this

Sorry Mark, I not with you on this one. If you’re not playing in a January bowl game, I’d rather play somewhere new and different like San Francisco. December bowl games are basically consolation awards for having an above average season. What a drag it would have been for the GT players to have a December bowl game in Atlanta. If I’m not playing in January, then going to Honolulu, Las Vegas, San Fran, or San Diego sounds like a great time to me…………… no offense to Atlanta or Nashville.

By PerfectDawg

December 22, 2005 10:40 AM | Link to this

You count your way…we will certainly count our way! Vacating games means you never played them on the books. That means it has been 12 years since you all have beaten us. Either way, it looks nice on paper.

By Woof

December 22, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this

Mark…starting with the headline “Jackettes think” is all wrong.

By Spanky

December 22, 2005 10:45 AM | Link to this

Yell0jacket,…Either way you look at it, Tech has not beaten Georgia in 12 years! Did I word that correctly?..Thought so!

By Dawg

December 22, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this

Hey perfectDawg…its really the same meaning for the jackettes…vacate/not play. The jackettes do one or the other most all years when we play em.

By GM

December 22, 2005 10:55 AM | Link to this

worthless blog…

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

Spanky - you need to go back and read the NCAA ruling again. Those games are vacated on TECH’s books, but not the opponents’ books! So we don’t show any wins and losses for those years, but you still show the wins AND the losses on your’s. Tech has to take those games off of OUR website, but they stay on YOUR’S.

Cool, huh? You lost games that we didn’t even play!!

By PerfectDawg

December 22, 2005 11:01 AM | Link to this

51-7 and five in a row! We have even started a streak in basketball which you all are oh so awesome in. I hope UTAH pounds yall’s rear ends and don’t even come close to thinking I will be rooting for ya! Welcome to San Francisco! And you get to come home to watch a real team play in your own hometown of Atlanta-Athens….Since Governor Perdue was a walk on at UGA he has given us half of Atlanta since we win there so much!

By uganut

December 22, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

John is right. Uga should not play GT at all anymore. It is a no win situation, we win….it is expected. We lose…it is an embarrassment to lose to an inferior team. When we play at the worst stadium in the country, it does not seat enough for demand. There is no rivalry with a team that seldom can win. There is no reason to play Tech. Put a team on the schedule that would provide more of a challenge. Lastly, if GT insists that it is a rivalry and we have to play them, it should be in Athens every year or at least, play the game in Atlanta in the Dome. “cess pool of the South”??? Obviously you GT fans have not visited your “stadium” in a while…. GO DAWGS!

By YellOJacket

December 22, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this

PerfectDawg….I hate to admit it, but using your logic I think it would actually be 15 years (1990). Of course, no matter what the NCAA says I still have fond memories of 1998, 1999, and 2000. Now get off this blog and get back to work, I’m tired of waiting for my french fries. :)

By GM

December 22, 2005 11:05 AM | Link to this

Is one in a row considered a streak?

By DaveDawg

December 22, 2005 11:06 AM | Link to this

Tech, why not leave the ACC and come back to the SEC? Seriously, it’d make life more interesting and put more Tech (and Auburn, UT, Alabama, etc) fans in your stadium. The ACC/Raycom made it clear that Tech is an ACC outsider, so get ready for more trips to Boise, San Jose, etc. I bet South Carolina would switch with you.

By 2UGANUT

December 22, 2005 11:07 AM | Link to this

“There is no rivalry with a team that can seldom win?”….uh…then you’re going to drop Florida from UGA’s schedule since they seem to own you?

By GTbacker

December 22, 2005 11:08 AM | Link to this

If any of you UGA fans actually graduated from UGA - please let us know. We assume you didn’t.

If you DID - there is at least a 75% chance that you are now suffering from condyloma accuminata. Documented. Feel proud - look it up. Remember - you can’t spell UGA DAWGS FOOTBALLER without “WARTS”

By wes

December 22, 2005 11:12 AM | Link to this

I don’t know why the mutts feel like they are world beaters. The team you like to poke fun at the most (Tech) for not being all that good, literally, is the best team that uga has beaten all year. Despite the loss to ugay, Tech is actually the better team…WHEN Reggie Ball doesn’t have a complete meltdown that is. We beat Miami and Auburn and then played like crap against uga and still almost won that one too. Tech is better. Face it.

By GM

December 22, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

I’m OK with not filling our stadium every game. Why do you Dog fans think this is such an insulting argument? It’s boring. Tech draws its fan base primarily from students and alumni (which is about one-third the size of UGA’s). UGA’s fan base consists of students, alumni, and every other redneck in Georgia that never went to college. Makes sense that we only put 50k in the seats versus your 95k, or whatever. Trade with you? I think not.

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 11:16 AM | Link to this

The fact is if we had beaten Virginia and NC STate like we should have, they would not be eligible for a bowl game, period. Then we would not be filling an at-large spot on the west coast.

Think before you write…

By wes

December 22, 2005 11:19 AM | Link to this

UGA vs. WV. YAAAAAAWN. Ooh, I’m gettin’ sleepy just thinking about it. You can bet your sweet arse that if Tech won the ACC, they would not be paired with some bull crap team like WV. The dogs are a joke. That’s why they got the worst pairing.

By Spanky's Biological Father

December 22, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this

I apologize for Spanky’s behavior. He has said many times that he would love for UGA to be going to San Francisco..to swing by the bowl game.

He really likes it out there. I’m glad he’s feeling better. He wasn’t the same after UF and AU slapped the taste out of UGA’s mouth. There’s not a more proud Truett alum of UGA athletics than my misguided son!

By GM

December 22, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this

Come on dog fans…you must admit, UGA versus WV is a real boring matchup. It’ll just be the alumni from each school, and the rednecks from each state that didn’t go to college watching.

Tech fans won’t be watching, but I imagine you’ll be watching our game.

By BADASSDAWG

December 22, 2005 11:26 AM | Link to this

GB4GT…

“How many National Championships has UGA won. Nuff said!!!!”

yeah, and Princeton and Yale used to win a lot of NCs 100 years ago also. Who gives a s**? WE OWN YOUR A*!!!!!

By GM

December 22, 2005 11:30 AM | Link to this

yeeeee…haaaaw!!!

By DaveDawg

December 22, 2005 11:39 AM | Link to this

Wes is the biggest moron on this board. Tech is not better than UGA - we won the flippin game you idiot. Tech is not the best team we’ve beaten - try LSU. Fact is, if Tech hadn’t run scared from the SEC years ago, dumba** morons like you wouldn’t be able to make such ignorant “what if” scenarios.

GM is the typical Tech jacka**. All schools strive to fill their stadiums. A larger fanbase equals money, genius. (I thought a smart Tech man like yourself would get that.) But in typical Tech fashion, you threw out a pompous response and insulted everyone in Georgia else who is not a Techie. Maybe that’s why everybody else in Georgia hates Tech. Again, not good for the bottom line, raging idiot.

By starwars4life

December 22, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

I will apologize for this ahead of time. I realize that taking pleasure in other people’s pain is not very humanitarian. However, when it is a big rivalry, I feel I must take part.

That being said, I have noticed one stereotype that is strengthened on this blog. Around half of the posts from Tech fans mention how much better a degree is from Tech. This is a football blog boys, and if all you do is bring up how tough your classes are, you’ll never get better. Seriously, every time a football discussion pops up, Tech fans want to take the discussion to the classroom. If you want to talk academics, try an education blog. Last I checked, this talked about football, but I realize as Tech fans, you can’t go tool long without mentioning the calculator.

Oh, and Tech fans making fun of the SEC, our championship and our bowl game: 1)The ACC champ had it handed to them a week earlier by SEC#5. 2)Try winning any championship before you talk smack…(when was the last time Tech won any football game of worth? Don’t say Miami, because that just got you the emerald bowl) 3) Sugar Bowl v. Emerald Bowl. Sugar bowl versus anybody is not even in the same league as the emerald bowl. Try the BCS every once in a while Tech, its fun.

-an alumnus of UGA

By BADASSDAWG

December 22, 2005 11:41 AM | Link to this

“Despite the loss to ugay, Tech is actually the better team…WHEN Reggie Ball doesn’t have a complete meltdown that is. We beat Miami and Auburn and then played like crap against uga and still almost won that one too. Tech is better. Face it.”

Ha-f***-larious…

I supposed GT has been the better team over those 7 losses out of he last 10. Has GT been the better team during those 15 losses out of he last 20 years?

The better team won this year, just like last year and the year before. UGA is GT’s most important game of the year. GT is UGA’s 3rd or 4th most important game. Your players actually played about the best that they could for the game this year. Ask your players who the most athletic, strongest team is that they faced this year.

You guys had better beat us next year when we are young and inexperienced in many key positions. Because looking at the talent we are bringing in, you won’t get much of a chance for a while.

FACE IT. YOU ARE PUSSIES.

By Rutuger

December 22, 2005 11:44 AM | Link to this

Tech beat two top 10 teams and is heading to a crappy bowl; UGA is also playing a meaningless bowl game. If it’s not for the national title, who the hell cares? This is why the college football postseason sucks.

Can you imagine if the NFL had a bunch of games that were deciding 3rd through 20th place? Or if the two Super Bowl teams were picked basically six weeks before the game, with nothing to possibly change the matchup?

YAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWN.

When are these idiots going to implement the playoff system so we get rid of these meaningless bowl games??!

By uganut

December 22, 2005 11:47 AM | Link to this

Geez, I hate tech people. ‘nuff said.

By GM

December 22, 2005 11:58 AM | Link to this

Dave Dawg - Never said Tech shouldn’t try to fill the stadium, just acknowledged the reasons for the lower attendance. Did not insult everyone in Georgia - not everyone is a redneck. Why get so worked up? Remember, you weren’t invited, so you don’t have to participate.

By DirkDawggler

December 22, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this

Hey, Tech: Save those tins of nuts the Emerald people give you. That way when you go to the Evaporated Milk Bowl next year, you can make a nice fruitcake. If you need some Sugar for that lovely confection…I’m sure we can spare a cup or two.

By GM

December 22, 2005 12:03 PM | Link to this

What is the fascination with you Dog fans all over this Tech blog? I thought we were your 4th biggest rival? Shouldn’t you be on the UF, AU, and UT blogs, or how about your own?

By GM

December 22, 2005 12:06 PM | Link to this

What is the fascination among you Dog fans with this Tech blog? I thought we were your 4th biggest rival? Some of you sure get bent out of shape over an opponent so “unimportant” as Tech.

By John

December 22, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this

Re: What is the fascination with you Dog fans all over this Tech blog? I thought we were your 4th biggest rival? Shouldn’t you be on the UF, AU, and UT blogs, or how about your own?

I AGREE!!!! This blog is for us GT fans to vent. Get lost you loser, ignorant excuses for college students.

By Charles

December 22, 2005 12:11 PM | Link to this

Hey! If your team is not going to be in a BCS or New Years Day Bowl, I think far away bowls are the best. It gives the players and anyone who travels the opportunity to see and experience new places and people. It’s a wonderful experience and vastly better than (yet again) going to Florida or New Orleans.

I’m a Dawg fan; but, I hope hope Tech cleans Utah’s clock nine ways to Sunday.

By DaveDawg

December 22, 2005 12:13 PM | Link to this

GM, I’ve got to put my UGA journalism degree to use somehow, since serving all these fries isn’t really applicable.

By GM

December 22, 2005 12:16 PM | Link to this

Charles, could you put the other dog fans back in their cage? They’re starting to foam at the mouth. Thanks for the rational comment.

By DirkDawggler

December 22, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this

Why are we on your blog? Because Nerd Bashing never gets old. Wurd.

By In Rod We Trust

December 22, 2005 12:31 PM | Link to this

All this GT bashing by UGA people reminds me of the piling on we WVU fans give Marshall up here. The only difference is that Marshall has lousy sports AND lousy academics (although they did, somehow, produce Randy “I look good in prison stripes” Moss, Chad Pennington and Byron Leftwich). Speaking of “pick-up truck alumni,” you haven’t seen anything like the rubes that come out of the hollers to support WVU. Most have never been to Morgantown, much less can spell it. GT did beat us in the 1997 Carquest Bowl when we had Marc Bulger and Jerry Porter. Now Georgia will probably punk us in the Sugar Bowl (when we have, really, nobody that will make the pros). Take the Dawgs, lay the points. Lock of the Year. We will own the City BEFORE the game, but will take our lumps during and after the game. We’re Coming, to Your City!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let the wild rumpus start!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS Where’s my man Geechee? Does he not own this board too?

By SG

December 22, 2005 12:44 PM | Link to this

The thing is, most Tech grads find their years at Tech and afterwards to be the defining years of their life. They live in the present and look to the future. It’s nice to have a good football team and, yes, it would be nice to compete regularly with UGA. Unfortunately, that hasn’t happened. It sucks, but it doesn’t define who they are. On the other hand, most UGA fans (not all!!) have lived the best of years of their life back in high school when they were somebody special. They may have played football or been BMOC while picking on smaller kids or something. Now, their life is defined by how well the Dogs play football. It’s their reason for living. Even today, they still feel the need to insult and call names. It’s what they do, it’s all they know. There’s obviously inferiority complexes involved, so it feels good to bow up and talk about their beloved Bulldogs. Fact is, even though they finish higher in the rankings and maybe win the SEC, nobody will remember in 10-15 or longer what the 2005 Bulldogs or Jackets did because niether won it all. Tech is average, UGA is better. Given the talent that UGA has, that’s not a ringing endorsement. You still only won two more games than we did and you underachieved yet again. So, spare me the high-and-mighty DAWGS bit.

By GM

December 22, 2005 12:49 PM | Link to this

How can you say UGA underachieved this year? They beat they’re 4th biggest rival.

By Casey

December 22, 2005 12:54 PM | Link to this

Dirk Dawggler; “Nerd Bashing”? Most of the nerds at Tech do not even care for the game. So, I highly doubt they are even reading these blogs. GT fans represent the ATL, not redneck Athens! I watched a Georgia game one day and wondered why everybody in the stands were wearing red turtle necks in September. Then as the camera zoomed in closer, I noticed all the rednecks.

By stan holloway

December 22, 2005 01:02 PM | Link to this

Lets face it my fellow jacket fans….BRAINE needs to go as well as Gailey….Get us a winner in here!!

By CEG

December 22, 2005 01:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Dawg fans I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The university of Georgia can beat Tech the next hundred years win 14 national championships and will NEVER be worth a S** to me! And there ain’t one thing any of you fleabags can say about it.

By Boogie Bill

December 22, 2005 01:34 PM | Link to this

I had the fortune of being at the Silicone Valley Bowl. What a dump! I consider myself a postive person and I don’t like complainers. But the Jackets have a good point. They are better. If you don’t make an issue about it, it won’t get dealt with in the future. Go Jackets! The bowl WILL be better next year!!!!

By Atownman

December 22, 2005 02:03 PM | Link to this

Hey GA fans, quit picking on Tech and start concerning yourselves with beating Florida for once in your lives. Oh yeah, UGA backed into the SEC championship and beat a FRAUD LSU team. Wow, everyone is so impressed. Losers…

By B

December 22, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this

What do UGA fans and Nascar Fans have in common, there both rednecks and overweight, and unintelligent-could keep going but I do not want to make the majority of drunk drivers mad in GA

By B

December 22, 2005 02:21 PM | Link to this

I like English Bulldogs but all the UGA Rednecks give them such a bad name, stupid rednecks education is for the earnest

By dave

December 22, 2005 02:26 PM | Link to this

I really don’t think we can assume that If GT beat NC State and Virginia then they’d be in a better bowl. Look at BC, they only had one bad loss and still got sent out to Boise. There’s no guarantees and this is why college FB is the sorriest college sport there is. NO OTHER COLLEGIATTE SPORT IS MORE ABOUT THE $$$ My interest is really starting to diminish…

By B

December 22, 2005 02:26 PM | Link to this

David L, Was that your mom or girlfriend speaking in the middle of your post!!!!!

By Tom N

December 22, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

The real tragedy of this blog is seeing how the UGA fans resort to calling others “gay” and “f*.” Comments like that just go to show what a pathetic, backwoods, trailer-trash school UGA has become. Its 2005 Georgia fans, not 1865. All you insecure dawgs out there should get on your hands and knees and beg some of these Tech alum to bring you into the 21st century. And in regards to football, only one stat counts, national championships. Ga Techs last-1990. UGAs last-1980 (and thats ONLY because of Walker). Enough said. As soon as Mark Richt leaves Athens, UGA football will go right back into the sewer of the local trialer park.

By toemeetsleather

December 22, 2005 03:01 PM | Link to this

this game just adds to the great jacket legacy of having played in more different bowl games than anyone….JACKET PRIDE will reign in baghdad by the bay….look for reggie to light it up…still seething from narrow loss to georgia….will be one of many making the trip…GO JACKETS!!!!

By vladfromvandy

December 22, 2005 03:03 PM | Link to this

just be glad you are going somewhere…we really think back to our middle tennessee state fiasco or we could be headed west!!!GO ‘DORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By gdawginkalamazoo

December 22, 2005 03:06 PM | Link to this

1) Tech you have a good team this year. 2) How do you beat Miami and Auburn in a year and the lose to Virginia and NC State? 3) If you won at least one of those games you would have been going to a bowl closer to home. 4) Whoever said that UGA has nothing to be proud of this year is wrong. We were picked to finish THIRD in the EAST DIV of our conference. IF we went undefeated WE still wouldn’t have gone to Pasadena as USC and TEXAS have been the darling of college football this year and neither lost. We are in the best bowl we could have gone to. 5) The ACC for all of its huff & puff this year stealing Miami, Vick Tech and BC from the wanna BE conference GAVE you guys a raw deal on the bowl game. 6) I hope you guys spank Utah. GO DAWGS.

By Antdogg

December 22, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

Clay, Georgia had a tougher schedule and would have had more quality wins than Texas and I believe they would have been in Pasadena instead of the Longhorns. I’m not whining at all. I’m just trying to be real and acknowledge that both of our states D-1 teams underachieve each year. First, from the Tech perspective, each year we find a way to lose at least one game that we should have won. Thet may be okay in the NFL 16 game season, but with only 11 games, every one is important. With the talent level that Tech has, I would expect 8 wins a year and hopefully slip up on a 9th. Do that consistently and you might start getting the talent to compete for the championship down the road. UGA on the other hand, has championship caliber talent year in and out. Watch the pro games this weekend and look at all the Georgia players ballin on the next level. Brown, Pollack, Thurman, Davis. I think each team has a former UGA tight end on it. You can’t tell me that Georgia doesn’t have enough talent to beat Florida even without Shockley. And I know they could have beaten Auburn. Heck, Tech did it. I know you’re happy with the Sugar Bowl and your 9-2 record. As a Tech fan, I’d sell a few pints of blood to have that instead of our record and the Nut Bowl. But you should be in the Championship discussion every year. You have the coach, the facilities, the talent, the conference respect. You are just underachievers just like Tech is. Do you think Pete Carroll would be pounding his chest about being 9-2? If it weren’t for Tech being around to pooh pooh on, the media would be kicking your butts for never being able to beat Florida. Tech needs to stop leaning on academic standards as an excuse for not playing sound football. And Georgia needs to stop feeling that being better than Tech constitutes a good season. Nobody in any other part of the country gives a hoot about either Tech or Georgia until both step up to the next level.

By gdawginkalamazoo

December 22, 2005 03:19 PM | Link to this

Vlad too bad for you guys too! I was hoping that you guys got a bowl this year. What pick do think Cutler will be in the first round of the draft?

By Realistic Ricky

December 22, 2005 03:25 PM | Link to this

Enjoy it while you can, mutts. Despite all of the “great” things Richt has done the past five years, he is still 1-4 against the Gators and 2-3 against Auburn. UT will bounce back and South Carolina will also improve, so your “good times” will not last much longer. You will have to win the SEC East instead of back into it like you did in 2005. I look forward to seeing UGA put back in their place in the SEC football order.

By gdawginkalamazoo

December 22, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

Antdogg, Good post. As much as I would like to agree with your Rose Bowl comment, the national media pays attention to Tennessee and Florida in the SEC. Not even Auburn who has the best record in the SEC over two years had anyone pulling for them. You are right that we have been underachieving losing that game(s) that we should have one. I am not a woulda shoulda coulda guy. One 4th down play in the Auburn game and blitzing FLA in the first couple of possesions and opening up our offense for our second string QB…. well?????? NO EXCUSES help NOW. The game is just as much mental now than it is physical.

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 03:31 PM | Link to this

Dave, you’re probably right. But my point was that with the guaranteed ACC bowl slots, if NC State and Virginia had not had 6 wins, BC and Tech would both be on the east coast for games and someone else would be out west. I was getting excited about a Music City game against Central Florida and O’Leary. Even a game in JAcksonville had we taken care of business with UGA. But we didn’t take care of ourselves and play to win every night -and it backfired on us.

Goes back to the same old argument that if you let less talented teams stay close in a game, they can beat you with a couple of freak plays. This year gave us plenty of proof that that argument is valid.

By Ga_Tech_92

December 22, 2005 03:36 PM | Link to this

OK, business as usual on the blogs I see…I am pretty close to never coming back to the blogs (not that anyone cares)…but how insulting the UGA people are to the true UGA graduates. You people represent your self like 6 year olds. You taunt, brag, talk trash and are illogical as can be.

Let me see here: We beat teams you can’t beat, yet you have much better athletes on the field. Who should be bragging? You only barely beat us this year, even with all your amazing athletes…did they not try very hard or what?…who should be bragging? Who has more national championships?…who has won at least a share of one most recently?….again…who should be bragging?

Anyone with half a brain knows we got screwed on our bowl. There have been numerous accounts of this. We are one of only two teams to beat two top ten teams, something you can’t do with all your amazing athletes…who should be bragging? Everyone knows the bowls are more about money than who is the best team. All your points are basic and illogical…stemming only from a false pride you have in beating an underdog.

What a joke your life must be. You would better represent your team by modesty. Someone must wiser than me once said: Modesty and Propriety are the means to notoriety. It’s something to think about considering you come here with sophomoric taunting, yet you have no real football dynasty to brag about. When you have more national championships than the underdog Jackets, then you’ll have something to brag about. Even then, you would still best serve your team by being humble and modest with success. I wouldn’t have said all this but somehow I can’t resist arguing with idiots, even though I know the old saying: “Never argue with idiots, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience”

By Antdogg

December 22, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this

I’m just tired of everybody living off the past. It’s been a long time since either team has made any noise nationally. I would like to see somebody play up to their potential and then maybe these blogs would be meaningful. Even in the off season, people still talk about USC, Notre Dame, Texas, Miami, FSU because they have built a tradition of excellence. Here, we get to be average and above average every now and then and we shout if from the mountain top for the next twenty years. And I’m not just trying to bash the college teams either. The same is true for the Braves and Hawks and Falcons as well. No sustainable success over the long haul.

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this

Antdogg - you are right on the button, man. Having moved back to Georgia from the west coast, no one out there looks at the UGA-Tech rivalry as anything at all and are amazed that UGA thinks so highly of themselves with their record against Florida (with both Spurrier and Zook) and even Tennessee. The reason that UGA is on this blog all the time is that this is the only program they can Lord over and heaven knows, soon even the Gamecocks will be beating UGA annually.

Does anyone in Athens really think that if Greene had gone to Auburn like he initially intended, that Shockley would have been ready to be thrown into the game in Knoxville and beat Tennessee? And then run the table for the next 4 years? Never!

By Ga_Tech_92

December 22, 2005 03:45 PM | Link to this

My apologies to the reasonable UGA fans, my rant was directed at the childish posters. I personally hope both schools represent the state well. I would never wish anything ill against UGA; however, I am aware that sentiment isn’t probably reciprocated towards Tech. That’s OK, I can take whichever road I find appropriate.

By GaDawgAthens

December 22, 2005 03:49 PM | Link to this

Tom N, as a Dawg, my heart skipped a beat when I read your post. Your stunning insight exposed myself and every other dawg fan out there for what we really are: fools. Unlike Tech, we don’t have a tradition of winning at all. And our academics, well there just an absolute joke, but thats another story. So I reckon I speak for all Dawg fans when I say, “yes, we are trailer trash, and yes, we do think we live in the 1860s.” Our skeleton in the closed here in Athens is we’re too damn dumb to see the big picture. Heres to another meaningless Georiga bowl game…

By gdawginkalamazoo

December 22, 2005 03:50 PM | Link to this

Realistic Ricky, There is no “backing into” an SEC championship game. We won the games we had to win. They didn’t flip a coin to decide who got there. We made the most of it too. As for Richt he has done an excellent job since he got there. Our program has grown in the past five years. 2 SEC championships. Hard to do and hard to “back into”. Before that we were up and down and as inconsistent as we could be. I don’t fear FLA, UT , AU or SC those are excellent programs. May the best team win.

GATECH92 You guys did get screwed in your bowl game. I don’t think BC was too happy either. At least you guys got the better city.

Other Mark. That would have been a classic bowl if you guys got to play O’Leary. Why didn’t the bowl idiots think of that one?

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 03:53 PM | Link to this

GoDawgAthens - finally, a dog that actually saw himself for what he is. One down, millions to go!!

By Other Mark

December 22, 2005 03:56 PM | Link to this

Kalamazoo??? I bet you’re freezing your a* off about now. Hope you get down for the game, but if not, good viewing. Too bad we can’t all wish each other well in the games and let one game a year be our battleground…

By Antdogg

December 22, 2005 03:57 PM | Link to this

Let’s face it Tech fans, UGA beats our butts regularly in a number of different sports. So, until we reverse that trend, we will have to put up with ridiculous posts on our blogs. That’s life. There is one way to shut them up and that’s to do just like Florida does every year. I bet you don’t see Dawg fans spouting off on their blogs. And, let’s please leave education and jobs out of the conversation. Whether we like it or not, education and athletics are basically polar opposites these days. No disrespect to the athletes at all. There are some that are great students and some that are not. Some that don’t give a hoot about school and some who are true scholars. Some graduate and some don’t. But none of it has anything to do with winning football games. Until Tech becomes MIT and UGA becomes Harvard, any discussion outside the white chalk lines should cease.

By John from the South

December 22, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

GoDawgAthens, not just “fools”, but “inbred fools.” Get it right!!!

By COLLEGESportsFan

December 22, 2005 04:16 PM | Link to this

GT was beaten this year by a more athletically gifted team that was more fundamentally sound in executing under pressure. The academic environment at GT is not the reason that we lost nor is it an excuse for our own costly mental mistakes on the field.

However, as long as we are talking about COLLEGE sports at state-funded universities, I am going to bring up the academic charade that UGA is inflicting on many of its athletes, and the tax dollars of state of Georgia citizens that are being wasted in certain degree programs that are not producing college-educated student-athletes.

Creating college courses in cut-and-paste, finishing a chapter in “See Spot Run” reading primers, and finger-painting would not make those kindergarten and first grade subjects into collegiate material. Neither does creating degree programs in Sports Studies, Parks and Recreation, or Leisure Studies make those subject areas into college-level course work, especially at the state of Georgia’s supposed flagship university.

Tax payers of Georgia do not exist to work during the day so that some UGA-graduate governor can seize our money to subsidize the academic exploitation of athletes in Athens to allow UGA a few extra victories on the football field.

If we are talking about the best football team in the state of Georgia, then UGA better start scheduling the Falcons. Until UGA beats the Falcons, I will consider the bulldogs to be too afraid to face a real football team for which academics really is irrelevant. If UGA will not play the Falcons because UGA is a COLLEGE football team, then I will consider academics to be relevant to the taxpayer-funded educational activities (or lack thereof in the cases of some majors for some of the student-athletes) at UGA.

By GoDawgAthens

December 22, 2005 04:22 PM | Link to this

INRE: John from the south I just figured saying I was a Dawg implied that I had a tendency to inbreed. However, to those that don’t already know, yes, here in Athens family trees don’t fork very much. So I stand corrected, I’m not a just a fool, but an Inbred Fool. Now everyones happy.

By Antdogg

December 22, 2005 04:30 PM | Link to this

Collegesportsfan, apparently you have never been associated closely with any college athletic department. Just because you put engineering or management after a kids name on the TV screen does not mean he’s a real student athlete. As I’ve said before, I love Tech like no other, but they know just as well as the UGA’s and the UT’s and any other school you want to bash about athletics, to get kids to play ball without getting an education. These schools care about winning games and making money. That’s it. The actual concern that these institutions have about educating young men and women, is ZERO. It’s all about winning and losing. Paul Hewitt didn’t get a huge contract extension because his players were graduating at a great rate. It was because he was in San Antonio in the Final Four. It’s not just UGA. It’s an epidemic through all college sports. So, if you’re mad about your tax dollars paying for bogus educations, then don’t. First, the athletes more than paid their own way through school with year round training and a workload that amounts to a full time job. Additionally, they probably earned enough money for the school to send 20 other kids to school as well. You may have the largest salary and the biggest house in the state of GA, but your tax bill doesn’t come close to contribution that these kids make to the revenue of the school and the state. And they don’t get paid a dime to do it. If you want to find academic problems on a college campus, don’t waste your time driving all the way to Athens. There are plenty to be found on Bobby Dodd Way.

By BADASSDAWG

December 22, 2005 04:35 PM | Link to this

“Tax payers of Georgia do not exist to work during the day so that some UGA-graduate governor can seize our money to subsidize the academic exploitation of athletes in Athens to allow UGA a few extra victories on the football field.”

Tell ya what. Let’s put it on the ballot at the next gubernatorial election and see if the voters of the state of GA decide to keep subsidizing the academic careers of these athletes. I think you will find that they will decide to keep on doing so.

By Auburn17

December 22, 2005 04:42 PM | Link to this

Hey Colorado, if you are looking for a team to cheer for, you should cheer for the only right and true team around. That would be the Auburn Tigers. Go to a Auburn home game next year and you will see what I mean. Check out http://www.coloradotigers.com/concourse/quotes_syracuse.htm by Bud Poliquin of the Post-Standard in Syracuse, NY. or http://www.wardamntailgate.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=125, or http://wardamntailgate.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=296&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0, both of which are by writers are actually biased against Auburn. So just imagine how we true Auburn fans feel.

By gdawginkalamazoo

December 22, 2005 04:43 PM | Link to this

Other Mark, Yeah pretty cold up here. Suppose to warm up to the mid 30’s this week. Like I always say I hope GT wins every game except the one against us. Good school good people. GT v. O’Leary though would have been classic. I will be down for the Peach Bowl (family get together) as we used to play in that bowl frequently we decided to go every year regardless of who plays.

CollegesportsFan. Whoa!!! What degrees do the Tech athletes “graduate” with??? I saw that so called graduate record that you guys have and it isn’t too much better than ours and you are supposedly recruiting “student athletes”. Probation. The athletic dept at any instution gives a lot of those kids a chance at a better life than they would have had otherwise. Some take advantage of it and some don’t. Just like regular students that flunk out or don’t graduate. There are actually intelligent athletes that attend UGA and get “real” degrees and lead productive lives after sports. What happens to the athletes from Tech that don’t graduate when they are done and washed up with athletics? Probably the same as the UGA athletes, and the USC’s , and any other Div. 1 school. Don’t run UGA down on this subject and b*tch about state funding for the school. The majority of that funding doesn’t go to athletics anyway.

I believe I would be correct in saying that I am just as ashamed as you are when you see an athlete from your school on TV and they can’t put a complete sentence together or they wear their hat backwards or every other word is “you know” and “umm”. It happens at the majority of state schools everywhere (yours included). The only game that I saw this year on TV where the athletes were well spoken could wear a hat correctly was Harvard-Yale game. Of course private colleges.

By Dawgman

December 22, 2005 04:48 PM | Link to this

I own a company that produces licensed college apparel. We have every SEC license except Vandy and every ACC license except Ga. Tech….the reason? Vandy and Tech don’t spend any money, and they don’t travel. You can certainly make the arguement that Tech got shafted, but bowls aren’t intrested in fans that don’t travel or spend money. I’m going to bet that if you line up every 7-4 team and give every bowl a first shot, Tech’s still in Frisco, and my company is still printing bumper stickers that say “Honk If You’ve Been Passed Over By The Music City Bowl”.

By gdawginkalamazoo

December 22, 2005 04:52 PM | Link to this

Well said Antdogg. Amen.

By COLLEGESportsFans

December 22, 2005 04:54 PM | Link to this

“Tell ya what. Let’s put it on the ballot at the next gubernatorial election and see if the voters of the state of GA decide to keep subsidizing the academic careers of these athletes. I think you will find that they will decide to keep on doing so.”

Ah yes. An advocate for democracy in which 50% + 1 can force 50% - 1 to do anything.

Is that the level of philosophical thinking developed in the supposedly wonderful liberal arts curriculum at UGA? UGA has the philosophy degrees, the political science degrees, the history degrees, and yet we have a UGA advocate telling an engineer about raw, unadulterated mob-rule democracy as a proper political system.

I agree that measure might pass in a vote on the ballot. However, neither I nor the American Founders advocated such mob-rule democracy.

If you want to say that the state of Georgia voters are so backwards-looking as to believe that mob-rule elections to support tax-payer funded college football programs are a proper function of government, then you have doomed the state Georgia to run off practically every industry that could bring high-salaried jobs to the state.

To heck with socialized medicine, socialized retirement, or socialized education, let’s get the voters to adopt socialized college football programs.

Yeah right.

Is that what many UGA fans want, the socialism of government-subsidized college football teams?

If so, then I definitely stand against that political idea, and the issue is more philosophically important than a relatively minor sports competition.

By gdawginkalamazoo

December 22, 2005 05:04 PM | Link to this

CollegeSportsfan, Where did that moniker come from? Most of us on this blog are here to debate, run smack, and take good natured jabs at each others sports programs. This is an entertainment outlet. You must not be a true collegesportsfan or you wouldn’t be so angry about your tax dollars GT gets them too, you know. You need to go to a .gov blog and run your smack there.

By COLLEGESportsFan

December 22, 2005 05:23 PM | Link to this

“These schools care about winning games and making money. That’s it. The actual concern that these institutions have about educating young men and women, is ZERO.” —Antdogg

Fine. Then shut down the NCAA, take the UNIVERSITY trademarks off the helmets, and let the teams compete against NFL teams.

As long as the teams are tied to and use trademarks of the universities, they will be college teams with a goal of getting the kids an education.

To the extent that GT does not live up to that goal, shame on GT.

However, it is not something of which to be proud that schools get a player to make money for the athletic associations (most of which is not returned to the academic budgets of the schools), while short-changing that student-athlete on the reward of a college-level education.

If GT made clerical errors affecting academic progress, I am entirely embarassed by the ineptitude of the academic advisors. IF GT intentionally steered student-athletes into meaningless courses to keep them eligible, then I am going to rip into the GTAA. At this point, the fact finding only shows UNINTENTIONAL clerical errors.

However, many UGA fans seem to think there is something special and moral about defrauding a kid of an education despite coaches probably promising recruits and their parents that student-athletes will get an education at UGA. Some players at UGA get fine education, but I am not so sure about some players in majors such as Sports Studies, Parks and Recreation, and Leisure Studies. If those majors are not requiring college-level work out of student-athletes, then it is an embarassment and a waste of tax payer subsidies.

I know college-athletes (especially those in revenue-generating sports) get preferential treatment with tutors and academic assistance. I have no problems with such measures. However, those measures are totally different than wasting a kid’s time in college by placing him in a major that will not develop a college-educated student.

All of GT’s majors require a college-level of attainment to graduate.

Many majors at UGA require a college-level of attainment to graduate.

However, when the public sees resumes like that of Leonard Pope and final exams with questions about how many points a 3-point shot is worth, it raises questions about the legitimacy of some majors at UGA as college-level course work.

By COLLEGESportsFan

December 22, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

“So, if you’re mad about your tax dollars paying for bogus educations, then don’t [be]. First, the athletes more than paid their own way through school with year round training and a workload that amounts to a full time job. Additionally, they probably earned enough money for the school to send 20 other kids to school as well. You may have the largest salary and the biggest house in the state of GA, but your tax bill doesn’t come close to contribution that these kids make to the revenue of the school and the state. And they don’t get paid a dime to do it. If you want to find academic problems on a college campus, don’t waste your time driving all the way to Athens. There are plenty to be found on Bobby Dodd Way.” — Antdogg

Exactly, these kids did contribute to the school (although much of the money goes to the athletic associations and not back to the school) and the state’s economy.

However, that is no excuse to defraud the kids of an education, which is more than receiving some piece of paper for a frame on the wall.

Exactly because of all the things that these kids are doing for the school is the reason that it is troubling for the schools to exploit the kids without compensating them with a college-level education, regardless of whether that education results in the piece of paper of a diploma.

I dislike all taxes, but to the extent that the state of Georgia is subsidizing fraud and a boondoggle waste of money with my tax dollars, I become even more irate.

Some of these degree programs that seem to teach kids to figure out how many points a 3-point shot is worth or that teach them to prepare resumes like that of Leonard Pope appear to be fraudulent shams that are being perpetrated on the student-athletes and state taxpayers.

I am not mad at the athletes. I am mad at the athletic associations that would mistreat the athletes in such ways to cheat them out of college educations. I am also mad that my tax dollars appear to be subsidizing such a fraud in at least some degree programs.

By COLLEGESportsFan

December 22, 2005 05:51 PM | Link to this

“CollegesportsFan. Whoa!!! What degrees do the Tech athletes “graduateâ€? with??? I saw that so called graduate record that you guys have and it isn’t too much better than ours and you are supposedly recruiting “student athletesâ€?. Probation. The athletic dept at any instution gives a lot of those kids a chance at a better life than they would have had otherwise. Some take advantage of it and some don’t. Just like regular students that flunk out or don’t graduate. There are actually intelligent athletes that attend UGA and get “realâ€? degrees and lead productive lives after sports. What happens to the athletes from Tech that don’t graduate when they are done and washed up with athletics? Probably the same as the UGA athletes, and the USC’s , and any other Div. 1 school. Don’t run UGA down on this subject and b*tch about state funding for the school. The majority of that funding doesn’t go to athletics anyway.”

Graduating is not the same as getting a college-level education.

If a college were to put in a degree program with finger painting, cut-and-paste, and reading the first chapter of “See Spot Run”, the degree program may lead to a college degree. However, such a program would provide a kindergarten or first grade level education as opposed to a college-level education.

How many non-athletic scholarship regular students choose Sports Studies, Parks and Rec, or Leisure Studies as legitimate college majors?

Let’s suppose for the sake of argument that 100% of UGA student-athletes in those programs graduate. Does that imply that those student-athlete received a college-level education if the course work is finger painting and cut-and-paste?

A school with a degree in finger painting and cut-and-paste could have a 100% graduation rate and still produce zero student-athletes that attain a college-level education.

The easiest way to detect such bogus majors is to look at the behavior of regular non-athletic-scholarship students to see if those students voluntarily choose to major in the degree programs of Sports Studies, Parks and Rec, and Leisure Studies into which many UGA athletes are herded.

By Antdogg

December 22, 2005 06:00 PM | Link to this

YES!!! Please do take the logos off and make them pros, or semi pros, or whatever you want to call it. There are many kids who come to get an education and I’m happy for all of them. I’m especially happy for those kids who may not have gotten into a school of this quality without sports as long as they take advantage of that opportunity when it comes to them. But let’s be real, I lived with the athletes when I was at Tech and I know exactly what goes on. I know that the Athletic Department wants these kids to be ELIGIBLE, not EDUCATED. After they are done on the field, the are just that… DONE. Athletic departments are the pimps, the athletes are the whores, and we are the johns. Just like some hookers might save the money and eventually get out of the business and make a better life for herself, some athletes actually get the education and get a good job and have a productive life. But most just get old and undesirable and they get kicked to the curb. That is exactly what is done to our athletes at our major universities. Most of the coaches and most of the kids lie about the desire and the ability to get the education. Both usually know at the outset that that is not going to happen. Both are dedicated to winning ballgames, but neither are usually serious about the school part. It’s a farce, a fallacy. We try to hang onto the student-athlete concept because it makes us feel less like johns. Just like that girl in the strip club “just working my way through med school”. It’s easier for us to say we gave all our money to educate a future doctor rather than just to a stripper. It makes us feel so much better to think that we are cheering for someone who is working hard to represent his school and is so thankful for having been given the chance to get an education. BS. The coach is trying to keep his high paying job. The players are trying to make it to the pros so they can have high paying jobs. And we want to be entertained for a few hours. We read the paper on Sunday to check the scores and recap the games. And Monday through Friday, we read to see who’s hurt, what the other team is about and if the game is going to be on TV or not. Not one time do you pick up the paper to see if Calvin Johnson went to clas or not. Did you inquire to see if Shockley passed his Econ class? No. On that Saturday afternoon when the coach is keeping his job and the player is improving his draft status and we are being entertained, none of us gives a damn about his education.

By COLLEGESportsFan

December 22, 2005 06:07 PM | Link to this

“CollegeSportsfan, Where did that moniker come from? Most of us on this blog are here to debate, run smack, and take good natured jabs at each others sports programs. This is an entertainment outlet. You must not be a true collegesportsfan or you wouldn’t be so angry about your tax dollars GT gets them too, you know. You need to go to a .gov blog and run your smack there.” — gdawginkalamazoo

Why would you think that I am not a COLLEGE sports fan?

That is rich. A UGA fan telling a Tech fan to leave a Tech blog because the argument has been upgraded from name calling into the philosophical core of each side’s position.

You are correct. The issues that I am discussing are much more serious than the normal smack of many posters, but the issues are the philosophical implications of the logically-flawed statements by many posters.

UGA had a better team than GT this year and has had a better team for many years.

However, that is no excuse for defrauding student athletes (at either UGA or GT), and tax payers should be angry about their money being spent to subsidize such a fraud.

Yes, GT gets the tax dollars too, although GT draws in a higher percentage of its dollars from research than UGA attracts. However, to my knowledge GT is not wasting the dollars by subsidizing illegitimate majors in which to warehouse student athletes.

With regards to the recent probation, if GT was intentionally enrolling athletes in make-work, keep-them-eligible courses without providing the kids an education, then I am going to be just as angry at GT. However, at this point the evidence of the NCAA investigation indicates that GT’s actions were unintentional clerical errors as opposed to actions to intentionally defraud student-athletes and state of Georgia tax payers, who provide money to subsidize college educations including those of student-athletes.

By COLLEGESportsFan

December 22, 2005 06:28 PM | Link to this

“I own a company that produces licensed college apparel. We have every SEC license except Vandy and every ACC license except Ga. Tech….the reason? Vandy and Tech don’t spend any money, and they don’t travel. You can certainly make the arguement that Tech got shafted, but bowls aren’t intrested in fans that don’t travel or spend money.” — Dawgman

Dawgman, where is your company located?

If it is located in Georgia, I definitely have to call BS on that statement.

I can understand that Duke may sell plenty of basketball merchandise. However, Wake Forest is far too small of a private school to have the following needed to sell more collegiate-trademarked goods than GT, especially within the state of Georgia.

With regards to filling the stadium, GT has around 14,000 to 15,000 students, while UGA has around 30,000. However, GT has an attendance of about 50,000 at each home football game in comparison to UGA’s 95,000.

On a percentage basis in comparison to student body size, GT actually has a higher attendance at home games than UGA does. If GT’s student body doubled from 15,000 to 30,000 to match UGA, and the home game attendance rate stayed the same, then GT could fill a stadium of 2 X 50,000 = 100,000.

Further consider that a higher percentage of GT grads come from and take jobs out of state, while GT probably has a lower percentage of non-graduate fans than UGA. As a result GT’s fan base is extremely loyal and committed to show up in higher percentages than UGA’s fan base for games despite having so many GT grads out of state.

It is much easier for non-graduates of a school to easily switch allegiances to the current hot team than it is for graduates to change their favorite college sports program.

By UGAgraduate

December 22, 2005 06:48 PM | Link to this

I went to UGA for 7 years and my degree is equivalent to a sheet of toilet paper. I had the runs the day after graduation and had to actually put it to use. Now I serve fries at McDonalds. I hate myself.

By The Matador

December 22, 2005 09:22 PM | Link to this

1st rule of gambling on bowl games: Always bet against a team that feels it deserves to be going somewhere better.

Jackets Fan needs to be more worried than he is. Doesn’t sound like the boys are taking this one seriously.

By GT grad

December 22, 2005 09:27 PM | Link to this

I lived in that rat-hole part of Atlanta and took classes where no one spoke english.

I have to lie to get laid and I don’t score much.

My degree means I can only work for an engineering company, and not one of the millions of other types of businesses out there.

I sweat when I so much as see a girl who’s face isn’t covered in acne.

I wish I was still twirling my flag. I loved being a flag boy.

By UGAgrad

December 22, 2005 09:39 PM | Link to this

I’m a pathetic disgrace of a human being.

I have to resort to juvenille sex jokes raise my self-esteem.

My “degree” has no value at all, none.

I’m so insecure about our CONSTANT loses to Florida I have to post on a Tech so I don’t commit suicide

By UGAgrad

December 22, 2005 09:39 PM | Link to this

I’m a pathetic disgrace of a human being.

I have to resort to juvenille sex jokes to raise my self-esteem.

My “degree” has no value at all, none.

I’m so insecure about our CONSTANT loses to Florida I have to post on a Tech so I don’t commit suicide

By MUTT H8R

December 22, 2005 10:59 PM | Link to this

Georgia fans are trash.

By GT grad

December 23, 2005 12:05 AM | Link to this

Even though I claim that UGA grads hold worthless degrees, everywhere I look I see wealthy UGA grads. EVERYWHERE.

Academics are the only thing I have left to cling to in my sad, nerdly existence. The truth is that I’ve got a degree that is completely unappealing to most people, and the automatic assumption made by 98% of those whom I send my resume to is that I have no “people skills.” So, in actuality, what I am clinging to is pretty much an idea. An idea that only my fellow Techians and I believe in.

At least San Francisco is full of people who are famous for not judging others.

Reggie Ball represents me and my school. Could there be anything worse?

I’m gonna go watch cartoons. Oh look, I just saw another UGA grad drive by in his Lexus with a pretty wife in the front seat.

By Bobby Dodd

December 23, 2005 01:09 AM | Link to this

I want to say that the University of Georgia is a fine school and they have a great program. I hope those boys win all of their games and have great careers and complete educations. I do despise many UGA fans who have to constantly put down the Georgia Institute of Technology. These so called fans are not true sports enthusiasts, they are petty uneducated souls who have nothing in common with the fine players and graduates of UGA. Vince Dooley and Mark Richt are fine gentlemen who respect the Tech program and the efforts given forth by their players. Tech has a terrific history in sports and and is recognized as a top academic institution. I am sure that UGA is proud to be supported by the likes of Sugardawg, Sugarcane, Sugarbritches, Vettedawg, Anttdog, Snoopdog and the rest of the blogging misfits. Just go away, nobody really cares what you have to say. Merry Christmas.

 

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