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DEL.ICIO.USYouth will be served, but Dogs first
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Terence Moore
Athens — In so many ways, the Bulldogs are the Yellow Jackets, and the Yellow Jackets are the Bulldogs when it comes to dribbling these days. They both have overwhelming youth wrapped around raw talent. They both have low expectations outside of their own minds.
Mostly, they both have gifted enough coaches to mold it all into something better than you think down the stretch drives of their conference runs.
There is the meantime, though, when they both will have these extraordinary moments of wonder and woe. On Wednesday night, before the majority of the gathered 9,827 wearing red and screaming so loud that you’d have thought it was Sanford Stadium instead of Stegeman Coliseum, Georgia was all wonder along the way to a thorough 91-75 victory, and Georgia Tech was the epitome of woe.
This is the same Georgia Tech bunch that nearly shocked splendid Michigan State on the road, but this also is the same Tech bunch that got clobbered at home by something called Illinois-Chicago. Get the picture? In fact, since the Jackets followed their ACC opening victory against Virginia with this sloppy performance at Georgia that featured Tech missing every kind of shot known to mankind, I guess you could say that these simply were more growing pains for Paul Hewitt’s team.
The thing is, a visibly peeved Hewitt wasn’t buying it. “They’re young, too, so I can’t say youth had anything to do with it,” he said. “We just have to play better than we did, plain and simple.”
In contrast, Georgia was aggressive and impressive during its first real game of the season. Following an opening loss to Old Dominion, the Bulldogs rolled to five consecutive victories against the mediocre likes of Fordham, Eastern Kentucky, Western Kentucky, Florida A&M and Savannah State. Then came Tech, among the opponents that Bulldogs love to bite the most, and Georgia used a lot of Levi Stukes early and Billy Humphrey late to keep their woes away for a while.
“I think we’re coming together quicker than we expected we would,” said Georgia’s Channing Toney. “In the first couple of games, we sort of struggled as a unit, but I think game by game, we’re taking to what [coach Dennis Felton] is trying to get us to understand pretty well.”
This isn’t the old days, when Stegeman Coliseum was a dark, cold, lifeless place that was more appropriate for a wake than a basketball game. Then again, Georgia did play host to more than a few hoop funerals back then whenever Tech dribbled into town. Entering this one, theJackets were DOA after each of their 10 previous trips to Bulldog country, but here’s the thing: This was the new Dawg House, with bright lights, cozy seats near the court, a fancy video screen to cover what was an ugly gray wall — you know, a bunch of stuff to give Tech a different feel and maybe a different result. It wasn’t different.
Speaking of different, these clearly aren’t the Bulldogs who simply were dogs last year along the way to losing 20 out of their 28 games. Such ugliness happened since the Georgia program was so haunted by the Horrors of the Harricks that it lacked skills and depth. Now the Bulldogs have both, with a nice group of freshmen, exemplified by the prolific shooting of Humphrey and Mike Mercer. Still, it was one of Georgia’s old-timers who provided the most energy for his team early and often to place Tech in a significant hole. When Stukes wasn’t sinking shots from near and far, the junior guard was blocking shots, dishing assists and becoming a disruptive force on defense. It also didn’t help Tech’s cause that point guard Zam Fredrick got his third foul with five minutes left before halftime. As a result, there was nobody to feed Ra’Sean Dickey inside, especially since Tech’s perimeter shooting was chillier than the December breezes outside.
When Fredrick returned in the second half, Dickey still wasn’t getting fed. That’s because only the big, bad Dawgs were eating.
At least on this night.
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By GWJ
December 7, 2005 11:19 PM | Link to this
Tech loses to UGA in football and is bound for the “Emerald Bowl”. Tech fans are very upset that they are not invited to the “Music City Bowl”. Tech loses to UGA in women’s basketball. Tech loses to UGA in men’s basketball. All is right in the Universe….
By Ken C
December 7, 2005 11:25 PM | Link to this
UGA grads still serve my fries hot and well packed, mow my lawn to a perfect height, organize the pens and binders at OfficeMax with sharp precision. All is right in the Universe…
By Tech Sucks
December 7, 2005 11:26 PM | Link to this
Um, when are you guys going to beat us in anything?
Our athletic program is going uphill, yours downhill. Hewitt is just a good recruiter, but he’s not a good coach. You might as well give up this year nerds, we’re going for the triple crown:
Football: Check
Basketball: Check
Baseball: we’ll get that too
GO DAWGS and To Hell with Nerds!
By Bee Who's Lost His Way
December 7, 2005 11:27 PM | Link to this
Hey, just wait til finger-painting season! Chess, anyone?…
By CEC
December 7, 2005 11:30 PM | Link to this
Tech fans complain about the emerald city bowl just because they don’t have anything to cheer about.
By Rudolph Hamilton III
December 7, 2005 11:34 PM | Link to this
The real students at Tech could care less about sports anyway. Get a 4.0 in mechanical engineering and then come talk to me Dawgies.
By Brad
December 7, 2005 11:37 PM | Link to this
If you don’t care about Tech sports there Techie, could you explain to me why you’re wasting time on this blog when you could be studying?? Hmmmm.
By Randy
December 7, 2005 11:42 PM | Link to this
Chess?
Bring it…
By twdawg
December 7, 2005 11:45 PM | Link to this
Ken, coming from a UGA man, that was funny. (seriously)
By physicdawg
December 7, 2005 11:47 PM | Link to this
Nice comeback, Ken C. You sound like Anthony Michael Hall as Brian: “did you know without trigonometry there would be no engineering?” John Bender: “Without lamps there’d be no light.” Wer’re talkin sports, here. And if you can’t compete, shut your mouth and go home.
By David
December 7, 2005 11:53 PM | Link to this
Ken C, you’re quite the witty little Tech twit. I’m guessing you spend your time alone, expressing your self-love “with sharp precision?” Get out and get a life.
By physicdawg
December 7, 2005 11:59 PM | Link to this
Of course mechanical engineering is hard, R.U. III. Much less a 4.0; I’m seriously impressed. That’s why you don’t need those pesky sports teams winning and distracting you, Huh? You Techies talked more smak all year than everybody but LSU on these blogs. At least they had the Class to bow out and/or go away. You couldn’t beat us head to head in F-ball, so all we hear is “wait til B-Ball season,” “The ACC is better than the SEC,” Blah, Blah, Blah. Now, on a sports blog, you start talking academics. You know, those things your athletic department CHEATED AT! Does anyone wonder why we laugh, and despise(when we care enough to stop laughing)?
By T-DAWG
December 8, 2005 12:11 AM | Link to this
I SAID ITS GREAT TO BE A GEOOOORRGIIIIA BULLLDOGG!!!
too bad you yellow jackets cant win $%#((
By Matthew Cafaro
December 8, 2005 12:23 AM | Link to this
Ahhh… the sweet, sweet whine of the Bug…
Would you believe I’m smarter than you! Yeah! That’s the ticket! I’m smarter than you, yeah!
I can just see Ken C, sitting in his dorm room at Tech, dreaming of the beautiful girls in Athens and playing with his slide rule.
As for chess… bring it, Bugs.
As for who is whom’s boss…
We’re your doctors, you lawyers, your CPAs, your teachers and professors (where do you think your Football School of Business Profs come from, Bugs?), your military officers, your police officers and sheriffs, your state and federal agents, your politicians, your biologists, your chemists, your pharmacists, your farmers, your musicians, your actors, your artists, your geneticists, your preachers, your business managers, your press agents, your journalists, your poets, your novelists… and as Sonny and Cher said, “and the beat goes on.”
If your very unintelligent (and very false) comeback is all you have when the Dawgs whup your a—es, Ken C, then we know we own you. Because you can’t refute it. You have to bring the same old tired and untrue excuses to the table.
Well, we ain’t eating that meal.
But after chomping down on your Football team and your basketball team, we’ll take a nice slice of Bug baseball to finish off the meal in the spring.
Unless Yech adds an education major any time soon, none of you Bugs will ever be my boss when I graduate.
And guess what? My roommate’s boyfriend is a computer genius. She says he hates working with Yech Grads. He says they are all theory and no practical application. They have no clue, no tact, no imagination, and have no idea what-so-ever on how to work through a problem they’ve never been presented with before. He says they’re useless. Much like their sports teams, I must add.
By jim
December 8, 2005 12:41 AM | Link to this
poor old dirt dabers they lose again
By Matthew
December 8, 2005 12:48 AM | Link to this
Mark Richt wins SEC Coach of the Year!
Take that, ‘Ole Ball Coach!
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 01:11 AM | Link to this
Cafaro…your inferiority complex is showing. Am I supposed to actually be impressed with your list of careers? Our doctors? Nope..I checked the education and avoided the UGA grads. Our politicians? Yep…and that is why the State Legislature and our Governor make us a laughing stock. Spending time in the state house considering whether state football championships should be allowed to end in a tie and being the only state to cancel school over diesel fueld “shortages.” Our musicians? You can keep them too. Cannot stand REM and you band only knows one song to play over and over. Our business profs? Not from a second rate school like UGA - that would be why our business school is ranked ahead of yours (like pretty much every other academic college we have in common I would suggest). Our teachers? You really want to brag about this one? Have you actually checked out the ratings of education in the state of Georgia? Course that if y’all are our teachers that might explain a lot of it. Keep listing them and showing that inferiority complex. When you know you are not even in the same league as Tech academically, the talk is cheap. But I tell you what. When you get an academic program that is heralded outside the boundaries of this state, let us know and we can talk about further.
As for the state of sports, against your ignorance is showing. Way down? Do you not remember that beat down we put on your last year in AMC? You thinking beating a team with no returning starters and very limited experience makes up for that? Your best recruit went to the NBA. Ours are now in the college game developing. And next year they get two super studs to add to the mix. You’re not even recruiting anyone in the same league as these guys. Do I even need to remind you that you have not mad an NCAA tournament in the time since we PLAYED FOR THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. You better enjoy this rebuilding year, because Paul Hewitt is reloading and y’all are just treading water and next year you will get another taste of the beat down we gave you last year. But you can watch us make another Final Four run after you, if you even make it, get put out of the tournament in the first round. And if you do better, you will singing the blues becasue like any other coach of note in Athens, Felton will head for a school where he does not have to stand in line behind Mark Richt, Willie Martinez and Andy Landers for attention.
And bring it in baseball. I admit we manage to choke more than an elite program should. But we are loaded and you are…well…just UGA. Sure you might another of your flash in the pan up years in baseball, but odds are you will get beat down there too. Be happy you have football on us until next Thanksgiving because if not for that, the real question is can UGA out do Tech in anything for more than a hit here and there? Quite clearly, the evidence suggests NO!
So go back to preparing to be a teacher in America’s next to worst education state. Hmm…I guess that could be the best answer to those problems in Georgia - have Tech start graduating teachers so you won’t feel left out by not having a Tech boss.
By kevin
December 8, 2005 01:39 AM | Link to this
GaTech fans disgust me…i know because i have a brother that attends there. Sports and how good of a job you will have is totally different subjects. Going to GaTech one would figure that they could separate that. But u idiot nerdies cant win at anything:not in high school while u were prob. on the calculus team while we were with the hot women…most def. not at prom as u sulked in the corner alone. So..this mentality of well we suck at every sport but u’ll be serving my fries is lame! Only to think that Tech was in BBNC couple years ago and lost to UGA in bb…hahah u suck tech and always will u ugly nerds!
By DawginMichigan
December 8, 2005 01:42 AM | Link to this
HAHAHA. All that talk and the only thing you said was “wait till next year.” Also, we’ll see how long Hewitt sticks around. Don’t go changing Techwood Ave. to Hewitt Ave. just yet.
And if you’re so ashamed about this state may I suggest you do something about it go back to New Jersey where I’m sure you’re from. I’m sorry you don’t like REM. Yes, I’m sure Ace of Base is really where it’s at, but I’ll stick to Stipe and crew for now.
Finally, as to Academics, I’d be happy to point to a couple of programs UGA has that are heralded outside the state. We’ll begin with the Law school. The Life Sciences department is lauded throughout the South. Oh, I know cause I graduated from it. In Biochem. With a 3.5. UGA has plenty of great programs, and for you to say otherwise is really showing your ignorance. None of this is to claim that Tech isn’t as good in academics as UGA. Tech has lots of amazing programs, and if you have to compare a technical school to a huge university, then Tech would probably get the edge. US News seems to think so. But don’t get it twisted man, UGA is a great school that has plenty to offer. Be a little careful about who and what you bash around here. You can talk smack, and “wait till next year” is music to my ears, but Georgia is an amazing place that I miss very much, both the school and the state. While you’re visiting this fine state, make sure you appreciate it and don’t go ripping it so much, cause before long you’ll be designing highway overpasses back in Jersey and wishing you could be in Georgia. Don’t be surprised if Georgia doesn’t feel the same way about you.
51-7.
By engineer dog
December 8, 2005 01:53 AM | Link to this
Funny thing, wireless buzz — I’ve worked in IT for the past six-plus years and I’ve never had a Tech grad for a boss. I even spent three of those years at a dot-com; STILL no Tech grad boss. Director of Engineering: UGA grad. VP of Product Strategy: UGA grad. Co-founders of the company: all Carnegie Mellon grads. But alas, no Tech grads — that is, until you took a peek in the cubicles at all the software engineers. They were all Tech grads. Computer Science majors, mostly. Well, all except me: a self-proclaimed slacker of an English major from UGA, who after a single, six-week Java course could perform the exact same duties as a bullpen full of intellectual juggernauts (sic) from Tech. So I suppose either this whole computer science gig isn’t quite as difficult as most techies tell themselves (and everyone else — over and over and over again), or I’m a bloody genius!
Either way, to hell with Tech! Go DAWGS! (misspelling intended, by the way)
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 03:16 AM | Link to this
Kevin of course y’all want to separate sports from academics. But I mean, isn’t this COLLEGE athletics and isn’t the point of COLLEGE academics? Wait..I know..at UGA the school is life support for the football team, but unless we are talking about the Falcons…it is perfectly relevant. But I know why you want to separate the two. Because you know that deep down, who wins a football game makes no difference in my day to day life or your day to day life. But you know that academics do matter and on that count, there is a wide gap between Tech and UGA and that all the hot air coming from Athens does nothing to really close it. Sure, y’all have some exceptions. Maybe you are one of them. But if you look at it in aggregate, the only people gushing over UGA academics…are well…UGA supporters.
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 03:27 AM | Link to this
I am getting called a Yankee by a PupinMeeechigan???? Oh that is just great! Kinda like the great Southern university, UGA, has a Yankee football announcer and a borrowed Yankee football/sports logo. Sorry to burst your bubble, but Georgia/metro Atlanta native here and Tech alum. So I can comment on how embarassing our leadership is in this state because I grew up here and have lived here almost my entire life.
And to be fair, you are correct, not all of UGA are mere average schools but I still know of few if any fields that UGA receives any significnat national acclaim as does Tech. Obviously, second tier is not some horrible school, but there is a different between second tier and top tier if you want to reference US News. As I have noted, many UGA grads have successful careers. But that is hardly cause to attempt to claim that UGA is on par with Tech! Who thinks execpt for those tied to UGA? It is a completely laughable notion. I do not recall this newspaper running articles earlier fall on Tech about how people felt we needed a more rigorous academic curriculum. They did on UGA. Why not on us? Because we have had one. For a quite a while. And you do not hear us whining about how hard it is like some of the students quoted in that article who are supposed oh so bright and academically inclined. So perhaps there is a bit of hyperbole on both sides but I will take my Tech degree over any degree that I could obtain at UGA any day.
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 03:34 AM | Link to this
“Engineer” Dog…you expect me to believe that a six week course in Java makes you an engineer???? If those intellectual juggernauts with full blown CS degrees (and I do not care from what school…any CS degree in this case) are doing the same work as someone who took a six week course, I have a hard time believing this cutting edge stuff. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you know you stuff, but you cannot pick up the equivalent of ANY degree, even a UGA one, in six weeks. And I also find it amusing that the director of “Engineering” is a UGA grad??? So where did he get his “engineering” training? Yeah, I know UGA has those faux ag-morphed-into general engineering majors, but please…I have NEVER met a single UGA “engineer” and I would have a hard time not laughing out loud if someone introduced themselves as such to me. That is actually the funniest page on the UGA website…The University (sic) of Georgia Engineering…BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I don’t want to drive over that bridge or flip THAT switch!!
By John
December 8, 2005 05:27 AM | Link to this
UGA played better and should be congratulated. They took it to Tech and deserved to win. Dennis Felton is a great coach. Too bad he is stuck at a football factory and will most likely bolt for a basketball school after this year or next.
This bickering that is going on between the fans is getting a bit tiresome. Same old crap going on between the schools. Both sides are guilty of causing trouble with one another therefore I have a real solution:
End the rivalry. Let’s simply not play each other in anything unless we run into each other in NCAA Torunaments or bowl games. God forbid if Tech were to ever get the upper hand in football. This state would burn to the ground.
No, this is not being afraid to play UGA. Tech has been on the short end for 40+ years and have pretty well used to being the red-headed stepchild. But the absolute, blind hatred between the fans is only going to make the State of Georgia resemble the State of Alabama in the long run. Bitter, divided, and unable to do business because the rivalry now goes beyond sports between the two schools.
Think about it.
John
By TNK
December 8, 2005 06:39 AM | Link to this
SOSDD- Same old song, different day Tech beats UGA in athletics, they brag about their athletic prowess- A Very Rare Occurence BTW. UGA beats Tech in everything-Tech brags about being smarter than UGA. it. Which one is it Nerds? UGA owns GT, PERIOD!
By Al Davis
December 8, 2005 06:48 AM | Link to this
Wireless Buzz and Ken C prove that Tech has its share of morons.
By Yellow dawg
December 8, 2005 06:57 AM | Link to this
Settle down there boys and girls. As a UGA grad and a longtime GT fan, I do love the enthusiam of the rivalry and don’t want to ever see that go away. But geez, grow up some of you. Arguing over degrees and whatnot …GT is an outstanding institute, as UGA is a fine university.
There was nothing easy about the Mathematics and Statistics degrees I earned at UGA, so lay off the holier-than-thou perception of yourselves GT’ers.
And GT has an outstanding tradition in both football and basketball, moreso than UGA when you combine the two sports, so UGA’ers don’t think of your athletics program as being so much better than your in-state rivals.
I appreciate the accomplishments of both programs and here’s hoping both of these young teams avert too many growing pains and perhaps meet up in the Sweet 16 down the road someday. I also long for the day when both football teams are 11-0 (now with 12 game schedules)going into that last game of the season …that would be fantastic.
By 51-7
December 8, 2005 07:11 AM | Link to this
To hell with Yech! Can’t believe Yellow Dawg was a traitor and went to the Trade School. You tainted your degree by gong to the enemy. you don’t have a clue! UGA is superior in atheletics and academics. Your program and your school sux, so get over it. Go DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!
By SittinOnTheDockOfTheBay
December 8, 2005 07:22 AM | Link to this
I came on here to say congratulations Dawgies and share a little friendly banter. Instead of talk about sports we have a debate from UGAg fans about academics and national rankings. Lordy me. Now that is funny!
For example, DawginMichigan lauds the Law program at UGA and his Biochem major, however neither of these UGAg programs is even the highest rated program in the state! I am a native Georgian that loves this state but grew up with 80+% of my teachers from UGAg. For years the excuse for poor national rankings of Georgia schools has been that there are no funds and not enough good teachers. The lottery has helped fund the education program but actually Georgia outspends dozens of states on education, so that is not the real reason. The real reason why we rank at the bottom (ok, next to last) in this entire nation is the poor quality of teachers in Georgia which has been a problem for decades! Thanks UGAg! I went to Tech because I was a top grad from my high school in Georgia but I nearly flunked out of Tech I was so poorly prepared. So don’t even bring up the Education program at UGAg. And although I understand it is improving, it has been simply sub-par in the past and UGAg owes the entire state of Georgia an apology!
As to your talk about music, I’m an African American and my musical taste is different and I will leave it at that. And Kevin, I’ve always found it humorous that UGAg fans want to talk about being with “hot women� when compared to Tech men. Tech men land the finest women man! Real women want wealth, security, integrity, sincerity, communications and a partner who will be there to raise their children. These are all characteristics of a Tech man. I’m not saying that UGAg grads can’t supply the same, it is just laughable that you think Tech men are not as capable or as successful as UGAg men in this area. Your stereotype of Tech men being nerds and not marrying or marrying ugly women is just a myth baby. Check out the Tech alumni and you will see you are dead wrong. We have beautiful wives too, some of which came from UGAg so get informed and drop the stereotypes.
And Matthew Cafaro, your statement: “Unless Yech adds an education major any time soon, none of you Bugs will ever be my boss when I graduate� shows that you know little about academia. Most of our college professors in this country are not Education majors; they have majors in specific disciplines and specialties with PhDs, not in Education but in their specialty. Now, if you’re talking about the lower levels of our education system, such as high school, middle school, and elementary schools, then yes your Education major alone does qualify you. But for that answer I point you to the horrible national ranking the state of Georgia has with all of you UGAg teachers in these levels of education in Georgia.
Cafaro, your comment that your roommate’s boyfriend is a computer genius and he hates working for Tech grads is also laughable. This friend of a friend of a friend thing is simply hearsay and easily dismissed. And Engineer Dog (isn’t that an oxymoron) I work in the Mecca (that would be Silicon Valley for you UGAg people) of the IT industry along with thousands of other Tech grads. We are IT professionals, not software flunkies that you have in your company. There is a large alumni base in the Bay area and we never, ever see a UGAg graduate out here in any capacity or function. All I see in the upper rungs of management are engineers and Stanford grads. It’s like a UGAg free area. As for national reputation, Georgia Tech is very well represented and very well respected out here and throughout California. UGAg’s reputation in California is that it is a party school with a decent football program. That’s it. If you say you went to UGAg out here they would automatically deduct 100 IQ points from you and call you Bubba or Redneck. I know that not all UGAg grads are rednecks or bubbas, however I get tired of the lame stereotypes coming from you folks about Tech people. When I saw this blog converted to talk about academia and Tech being lambasted I just had to respond. Sorry, I know this is a sports blog.
And finally, the real reason that I came to this blog. Congratulations geechee on a game that wasn’t pretty but showed the heart that is in the UGAg basketball team. You have a couple of outstanding guards; love Stukes and Gaines (hope I have their spelling right) and some young players with potential. What upset me the most was the lack of effort from a clearly talented Tech team. I know some of the problem was youth but the lack of effort from some was disturbing. But the real credit should go to the great effort from UGAg.
Geechee, on a different blog you said I would be the only Tech alum happy with the Emerald bowl. That’s not exactly right but I am happy that Tech is coming to the Bay area and I will be at the Emerald bowl along with other fellow Tech alums. I know Tech deserved a better bowl but I for one am not complaining. The locals consider Tech to be a great school and a great program and there will be plenty of locals pulling for Tech, although the Utes will travel well. It’s great living in the Bay area, and no, I’m not gay so drop that stereotype too.
And geechee, I know what your name refers to; I’m from the low country of Georgia. Kumbaya brother!
Go Jackets!
By Gordon Pfeiffer
December 8, 2005 07:25 AM | Link to this
First of all, credit to UGA - they played well. I went over there and you Dawgs should do a better job of supporting your team because they deserve it. There were 3,000 empty seats. The one good thing about your 8 win year last year is that all of your sophomores like Gaines have a lot of playing time under their belt. Our sophomores are more like freshmen at this point, especially Fredrick and Smith.
As for Tech, it is to be expected when you lose your top six players you will struggle early. This team is just like Hewitt’s second team here after he lost all of the seniors he inherited. They struggled at first (7-11, 1-7 ACC), then won 8 of their last 11. Two years later they played in the national championship game. They will get more consistent, don’t worry.
By TennDawg
December 8, 2005 07:30 AM | Link to this
Let me state the obvious, since so many (Wireless) can not seem to figure it out - this is a sports blog. As fans of both schools, we debate, ridicule, etc. over what is currently (Wireless) going on the football field, hardcourt or whatever playing surface. Fact is, UGA has “bragging rights” with two recent wins by f-ball abd b-ball teams. Wireless, reality is an amazing thing - try it some time. Hanging your hat on “last year”, “next year” or for just playing (not winning) in a national championship is ridiculous.
Go DAWGS!
By K.C.
December 8, 2005 07:38 AM | Link to this
It’s just a game and there will be another one next year. Does it bother the dog butts that this is not the all consuming thing in our lives that it is in theirs? What is always a source of amusement to me is that when asked what school I graduated from and I say Georgia Tech, people say “Great school”. Georgia’s claim to fame is “Great football”. The really funny thing is the distinction appears to be lost on the flea biters as I toss them the keys to park my car.
By Kevin
December 8, 2005 08:24 AM | Link to this
Remember you little buzzies, it’s your institute that is on PROBATION because all of you geniuses can’t figure out that you’re playing 17 inelegible players!!! So I guess that either makes you CHEATERS or you’re REALLY NOT THAT SMART!! Enough said! Have a great day!
By DrT.
December 8, 2005 08:31 AM | Link to this
K.C. or Ken C. sounds like the same old whining song and dance to me. You probably got fired by a UGA grad and that explains your inability to think rationally in the face of defeat. Now get back to your little cubicle and crank out some CADS drawings. Your boss doesn’t pay you to daydream that your MARTA bus stop is valet parking or a limo service.
By HBTD!
December 8, 2005 08:32 AM | Link to this
Sheeeeesh!
Count on the maggots, when they lose, which is often, to fall back on that silly education excuse. If you want to be an engineer, you to to Yech. If you want to do pretty much anything else, you go to UGA. Does that make Yech better? Hardly.
Boys, to the real issue at hand. Ya lost again to someone you can’t stand. Deal with it. On the football field, it’s pretty much a given. In hoops, it seem to go back and forth. Is what it is and you guys hate and we hate it for ya. ;-)
5 in a row and counting… Do you boys see an end in site to that? :-)
HBTD!!!!!!!!!!
By Dawg with a job
December 8, 2005 08:34 AM | Link to this
Hey wireless, what is the point of academics? To gain a job that you enjoy doing where you can make the most money to support your family, in my opinion. Want to compare checkbooks? Go dawgs. Why does this always become an academic board. Oh yeah, and one of my friend’s kid got into Tech and cries every night because he can’t get into UGA.
By Dawg with job
December 8, 2005 08:38 AM | Link to this
Oh yeah and wireless, 3:30 in the morning with these posts? Did thrid shift end early tonight? Get a life.
By animaldr
December 8, 2005 08:54 AM | Link to this
What a game! I love the Tech focus on academics after losing two games.
Oh, did you see the ranking from the Wall Street Journal. UGA Bus. School #30, Tech slipped to #48.
GO DAWGS!
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 08:56 AM | Link to this
Good morning everyone :)
I first want to say congratulations to UGA for beating the snot out of Tech, way to go, you should be proud. You would be better served if you didn’t lower yourselves into this constant name calling and degree/boss taunting, in my opinion. Remember: MODESTY and propriety are the means to notoriety. Have some character, be a gracious champion, not a sophomoric name caller in the face of victory.
Tech fans, you shouldn’t be tossing insults at UGA fans, you simply put yourself on their level when you do that. Let them be the trash talkers. We should take the higher road. Remember: MODESTY and propriety are the means to notoriety. Have some character, be a gracious looser, not a sophomoric name caller in the face of defeat. It doesn’t reflect well on our base.
My thoughts on the game: I didn’t expect to win, as the record the last ten years shows that the home team almost always wins. However; as good as our players are…and as focused on Defense as we supposedly are…there is NO WAY we should give up triple digit points to ANY team…I’m sure the rest of the ACC is licking their chops. Now you’ve both: dropped blood in the water for the other ACC teams to gain confidence -and- not even played a respectful level of basketball at a football school in a state rivalry where you’ve now subjected us to the obnoxious bragging of the dog nation…nice going! Frankly I’m very disappointed. Very disappointed.
Tech, get it together. The best thing that can come of this is A WAKE UP CALL. If we keep loosing to sorry teams like UGA, we are NOT deserving of an NCAA invitation. I personally DO EXPECT an NCAA invitation, so strap on some balls and come with all the energy you have…play like it means something to you…EVERYONE…EVERY PLAY…or don’t bother showing up. You embarrassed the hard core BBall fans last night. Being young is forgivable, though both teams are young so that point is mute…but being out hustled is despicable in my eyes. I don’t mind loosing by 20, even to UGA, but getting out hustled is unforgivable.
Let’s turn this negative energy into something else…win most of the rest of our games and all is forgiven…let this be a serious wake up call Jackets. Our NCAA birth is on the line EVERY GAME.
THWG - GO JACKETS WE CAN DO IT - GET IT TOGETHER MEN AND PLAY TOUGH D - OUT HUSTLE EVERYONE! - COME ON PULL IT TOGETHER BEFORE WE LOOSE ANY MORE ‘EASY’ GAMES
By Gordon Pfeiffer
December 8, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this
I can sum up the basketball blogs between Tech and UGA in 3 or 4 sentences. If you are new to this, just read this post and you won’t have to waste your time reading anything else.
Odd-numbered years (UGA) : We beat you in basketball, and thats supposed to be your sport. We’re better than you in basketball. Sweep! We’ll beat you in baseball too! Can’t you beat us in anything?
Odd-numbered years (Tech): So what if you beat us, we make more money than you!
Even-numbered years (UGA): You beat us in basketball, but so what? We don’t care about basketball. Don’t girls play basketball? We’re a football school.
Even-numbered years (Tech): We beat you in basketball, and you’d better get used to it. Next year it carries over to football.
Football is even simpler:
All years (UGA): Nice try, Tech. Maybe next year.
All years (Tech): Wait till basketball season (especially if it’s an even numbered year). And we still make more money than you.
By Don
December 8, 2005 09:06 AM | Link to this
Yellow Dawg, you sound a little confused. Please take your medicine on your next plane trip. I would’nt want you to run off a plane yelling, “I’ve got a bomb.” JK
Billy Humphrey’s playground shot in the first half just landed him the no. 1 play of the day on ESPN. Hopefully we will see more of those from this group of young dawgs. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Felton take this rapidly improving team to the NCAA tournament this year. If he can keep this group together for two or three more seasons the sky is the limit.
By TheTruth
December 8, 2005 09:08 AM | Link to this
Thank you engineer dog for telling it like it is. Furthermore, if you want bang for the buck hire an engineer from Georgia Southern. They work harder and can think out of the box. Tech engineers spend an inordinate amount of time trying to convince everyone how smart they are and you just have to fire them in the end.
By jarrodmon
December 8, 2005 09:08 AM | Link to this
The real students at Tech could care less about sports anyway. Get a 4.0 in mechanical engineering and then come talk to me Dawgies.
Could crae less? The correct phrase is “couldn’t care less.” If you COULD care less, then you might be obsessed with getting smashed by UGA in every sport. Where is your 4.0 from, Einstein? Is that what they teach you at Tech?
By HBTD!
December 8, 2005 09:10 AM | Link to this
“Tech fans, you shouldn’t be tossing insults at UGA fans, you simply put yourself on their level when you do that. Let them be the trash talkers. We should take the higher road. Remember: MODESTY and propriety are the means to notoriety. Have some character, be a gracious looser, not a sophomoric name caller in the face of defeat. It doesn’t reflect well on our base.”
Dude, “their level”??? Have you ever perused the hive or Stingtalk? That IS your level. C’mon now…
As for the game, you didn’t give up, “triple digit points”, for one and you lost primarily because you got no one of real consequense back, from last years team. Your boys will play better but it’s gonna be a while.
By PreyDawg
December 8, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this
Cost of a UGA Degree in Chemistry- Around 46,850 bucks. (45,000 for books, housing, food, tuition, etc. 1850 for dates with assorted {and apparently nearsighted} gorgeous UGA Co-eds along the way.
Value of being the only Chemist (complete with a whooping 2.0 GPA because of his socializing ways back in the day) in a department full of engineers (most of whom hid in their dorm rooms and sweated blood for their 4.0) where I earn the same salary they do…..PRICELESS
Oh and as a bonus I get to chose between my two recent conference championship hats on my way to the Golf course
By GM
December 8, 2005 09:11 AM | Link to this
Funny how when UGA loses to Tech in b-ball all you hear is “we don’t care about b-ball, f-ball is all that matters”. UGA wins b-ball and suddenly the talk is “all sport domination”. From the comments on this blog, sounds like Tech is UGA’s biggest rival after all. I knew that was all just hype.
I was at the game last night and saw Spike for the first time. A bulldog mascot should look mean, like Harry (or whatever his name is). Lose the Pillsbury Dough Boy turned bulldog secondoary mascot. It’s silly. I will say the bouncing on the head routine was hilarious. Also, someone needs to punch that guy in the banana costume. Get some lights for the upper deck.
By GW
December 8, 2005 09:16 AM | Link to this
The 3 wins over Tech are great. Techies couldn’t even chant LSU at the game. The SEC trophy and FB team halftime recognition was great. I couldn’t help but notice that both BB teams must be using the same barber. Yes, I’m old fashioned but the haircuts looked great. I like to tell guys from girls on a glance. I know, times, they are achangin’. Wouldn’t the Quiz Bowl blog be more appropriate for Techies screaming academics? Why do they get on sports blogs and why must we feel the need to respond? They’re pathetic and obviously know it. When they manage to win I just shut up and take it. I never have to put up with it for very long.
By HBTD!
December 8, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this
“Funny how when UGA loses to Tech in b-ball all you hear is “we don’t care about b-ball, f-ball is all that mattersâ€?. UGA wins b-ball and suddenly the talk is “all sport dominationâ€?.”
Can not the reverse be said about Yech???
And frankly, if we do win in hoops, it tends to be domination. Just da facts.
“From the comments on this blog, sounds like Tech is UGA’s biggest rival after all. I knew that was all just hype.”
Ehhhh… Don’t know about all that but it sure is fun to watch you folks get all up in arms when you lose to us in the one things you think you should beat us in. :-)
By gdawginkalamazoo
December 8, 2005 09:24 AM | Link to this
TENNDAWG! Amen. THIS IS A SPORTS BLOG Debating academics should be reserved for somewhere else. First we hear we are going to rip you at football then when that doesn’t happen wait till basketball blah blah blah. Now is it academics this and that and the reason the State of Georgia is so bad at education is UGA and poor teaching, blah blah blah. No, the reason any student fails is due to their upbringing and lack of parenting. Now go back to your academic blog and keep thinking your ignorant thoughts about UGA. Both Tech and UGA are top notch academic institutions the State of Georgia and the graduates of both should be proud of. Besides when it comes to sports I pull for Tech to win every game EXCEPT the game against us. The respect should be mutual.
By UGALawGrad
December 8, 2005 09:25 AM | Link to this
Didn’t Tech “genius” create the tiles that flew off of the Space Shuttle? I for one hope that Tech keeps cranking out its special brand of genius. As long as they do there will be lots of product liability bucks to go around.
By GM
December 8, 2005 09:32 AM | Link to this
To HBTD!:
No, the same cannot be said about Tech. We care about winning in basketball too every year.
I agree, it is amusing listening to both sides get up in arms about winning or losing. Don’t get sucked in to all that. It’s a waste of time. What do you really think about that Spike mascot?
By HBTD!
December 8, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this
No but when you lose in football, all we hear is how hoops is all that matters.
Spike is entertaining for what he is.
By jt
December 8, 2005 09:47 AM | Link to this
This is ridiculous. All of this “park my car crap”. I attended and graduated from UGA, and I am proud of my degree in education, and and completely resent any statement about teachers being the cause of the state of education today. If you had any clue about the laws that deal with education today, you would also know that. At the same time, I have the utmost respect for GT. My brother in law is getting ready to graduate from there with an engineering degree, so I know the types of graduates they turn out. To compare these two fine institutions academically doesn’t make a lot of sense. Of course Tech has a better engineering school, that’s what they do down there, but all of this talk of UGA being a second tier school is just plain dumb. You Tech grads are right, you turn out better engineers than UGA, good for you. Guess what UGA turns out better attorneys, and accountants, and yes teachers. So quit tooting your horn like you are the beginning and end of higher education. You have a fine school, many of my friends graduated from there, and are very successful in what they do. But guess what I graduated from UGA, and I too am very successful in what I do, so does that make you or your school better than me, no, just different. Quit talking about academics, its old and tired. This is supposed to be about sports, and right now in sports, we have the upper hand, so get over it. And yes I realize that I spent the majority of this post talking about academics, just had to get it out. GO DAWGS, 5 in a row!!
By scott
December 8, 2005 09:50 AM | Link to this
Wrong Ken, we don’t work for losers!
By GM
December 8, 2005 09:53 AM | Link to this
Any Tech fan that tells you that hoops is all that matters is lying. Both sides always want to beat the other in any sport.
Lots of blah blah blah on this blog about salaries of Engineers, Chemists, Physicists, etc. etc. Anyone thought about trying Sales?
By jasondawg
December 8, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this
I get it - Tech is smart, Georgia is dumb, blah, blah, blah.
Then again, we can generally count to four (as in downs).
And we have been able to keep our athletes elligible.
That counts for something, right?
By GM
December 8, 2005 09:59 AM | Link to this
jason - come up with something original
By Speare
December 8, 2005 10:03 AM | Link to this
Tech fans always talk about how much money their grads make, yet they can’t fill their tiny stadium without help?
The guys with their own planes have no excuses. And plane tickets aren’t that expensive.
I guess most of vast numbers the Tech millionaires are very cheap or they don’t care.
Or they care, but about Thailand’s cricket team - not Ma Tech football :D
By TennDawg
December 8, 2005 10:08 AM | Link to this
Ga Tech 92 - “Tech fans, you shouldn’t be tossing insults at UGA fans?” Huh? You yourself said, “if we keep losing to sorry teams like UGA” and “obnoxious bragging of the Dawg Nation.” There is a word for this isn’t there? Help me out here…ah yes, HYPOCRITICAL. While your attempt at sportsmanship is admirable, you too fell short and slung some mud. FYI - UGA currently is 6-1, Tech is 3-3; so who is really “sorry?” In regards to Tech’s NCAA tournament chances, it doesn’t look good - at all, I mean real slim, kind of like no way in he..! Quick note to all of the Tech folks poking fun at UGA grads and their supposive jobs (“fries server, pizza delivery, etc.) As I sit here and think of my friends who are UGA grads, things like CPA, Developer, Marketing/Sales, Lawyer, etc. cross my mind. I have yet to say to myself, damn, that Brian sure does sling a mean pizza down at the Hut on the Corner. Speaking of pizza, why do y’all (big jobs=big money right?) spend so much time ordering the stuff? Can’t you hack (pun intended) the bill for some fine dining like the stuff my UGA friends/grads and I indulge in? One final thought, your football team is playing in a bowl game sponsored by a nut manufacturer. Maybe it is the simplicity of the whole thing, but that just makes me crack (once again, pun intended) up! Great game last night DAWGS!
Go DAWGS!!!
By GM
December 8, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this
UGA has almost three times the number of students and alumni base as Tech. Do the math for your “fill the stadium” analysis.
By wes
December 8, 2005 11:01 AM | Link to this
Javaris Crittenton and Thaddeus Young can not get here quick enough! Tech needs them badly.
By Jon
December 8, 2005 11:04 AM | Link to this
4 National Championships 2 Final Fours 1 NCAA Championship BBall game
Despite last night, the last 5 football games, you still can’t touch that.
And ya’ll still can’t figure out how to spell ‘Dogs’ right. No wonder everyone makes fun of you.
By Matthew
December 8, 2005 11:20 AM | Link to this
Sittin’, you’re doing a great disservice to one of my favorite singer / songwritters by naming yourself after one of his songs.
JT is absolutely on the nose.
And it isn’t education in total in which Georgia is ranked 49th, but in SAT scores.
Here’s a factoid that never gets thrown out… Georgia has the greatest percentage of high school seniors and juniors which take the SAT every year in the country. They also have the greatest percentage of the same group who take the test multiple times. Why is this? Because of HOPE, a one in a kind chance for people from all walks of life to recieve higher education.
So you work the numbers, Wireless Moron and Sittin’ Fool. That’s what you Bugs are so good at, right? When kids who would never in a million years take the SATs take the SATs and make their 500s and 600s, it brings down the whole state average. And when they do this multiple times, it compounds the issue. Take into effect that in Georgia, there is a huge disparity in middle and lower income. There is a huge difference between metro-Atlanta and inner - city Atlanta / Southern Georgia. This also leads to a greater chance of scoring low on the SATs. Much like in Alabama, the difference being, Alabama has one of the lowest percentage of highschool upperclassmen taking the SATs, so the ones actually taking the test have probably prepared better. They’re not taking it on a lark to try and get a state sponsered scholarship to school. And they’re not taking it multiple times, either. So can you two follow that line of logic?
Or did your Bug education not prepare you to wrap your mind around a complex issue like that? Because that’s what Dave (roommate’s boyfriend) seems to think of you when he works with you.
As for you not being my boss… well, Wireless Moron, unless Bug U starts spitting out history majors, english majors, or anything else but physics majors who decided to teach high school, no, you’re not ever going to be my boss. But I’ll be teaching your kids to love UGA, and undermine their every little insect tendancy you tried to breed into them.
But like I said…
I love it. The famous Bug Whine, brought to us so sourly by Ken C and Wireless Moron. You guys sound like a bunch of 5 year-olds trying to make a logical argument. You can’t, you’re incapable of doing so, because you’re stuck in the pre-operational stage of development.
Yeah, I busted out the psychology stick, what are you bugs going to do about it? You know nothing of psycology. If you had a well-rounded education, you might understand what I’m saying. But hey, you did get a super-neato slide-rule and a neverending inferiority complex, which you show off loud and proud every time you mention money, and cars, and who’s boss is whom on these SPORTS blogs.
So keep it up, Wireless Moron and Ken C, your UGA-grad psychologist is reaping the windfall!
By GM
December 8, 2005 11:24 AM | Link to this
amusing
By Dave
December 8, 2005 11:28 AM | Link to this
Georgia Tech and UGA grads both need to grow up. To Techies, just a reminder that RPI and MIT may not be in another universe but they are in a Galaxy far, far away from Atlanta. To the Dog nation, a state land-grant university is not really a flagship, its a cruise line. Everyone has their own place, most of the rest of us know exactly where that place is.
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 11:42 AM | Link to this
TennDawg you are correct. I was directing my negative comments toward the Tech people and the team, but in so doing it was a passive-aggressive slam on the Bulldog Nation.
I’m just jealous probably =p
By realistic
December 8, 2005 11:45 AM | Link to this
but your stadium holds about 40,000 less than Georgia’s. I’m sure you’ve had 55,000 thousand or close enough to it to help fill the stadium. the worry, the visiting team will be bringing some fans too.
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 11:46 AM | Link to this
jt, so it is not the teachers? Not surprised by that. I know a lot of teachers and I assure - nothing is ever their fault in the state of education. And to be fair my friends are solid teachers who happen to be UGA grads. But they will never call out their colleagues that are likely a large reason for the poor quality of education in our state. I guess teachers coated in Teflon. Not their fault, but oh no…no way can we have merit compensation. And if it is the lawyers…wait..those are UGA grads too but should we expect too much from a state legislature dominated by UGA grads that sits around discussing ties in state high school football championship games.
As for second tier, we do not make this stuff up! Do you think we just pull figures out of the air when we say this? Apparently some people don’t think it is not “just plain dumb.” Check out DockoftheBay’s comments of the reputation of UGA outside of this state. I also second the comment someone made about reaction to alma maters: when out with UGA friends I have not heard anyone be impressed by a UGA degree like they often are with Tech degrees.
And I will continue to mention academics whether we win or lose. I do not care if we win a national title in every major sport in one year. The purpose of Georgia Tech and what matters to me most is the high quality of degree. It always amazes me that this seems be of only a passing interest to UGA alums! And for many UGA fans, of course they could not care less about the academic argument because they have never set foot in Athens unless it was a football Saturday. The only people I take any credence in their position on UGA academics is your alums. They have a dog in that fight…if you do not have that at stake why whould I be concerned if you do not like my mentioning of academics?
Oh and for the guy that said “you are probation.” Hello…last night was the basketball game…and UGA is the one on probation in the sport in question. Coming out of the Dooley era, I would expect you to just assume that some program at UGA is almost continually on probation.
By law dawg
December 8, 2005 11:53 AM | Link to this
Ok, I know this is a sports blog and should be reserved for such, but since many yech fans know its not quite an even debate in that area they decided to switch the topics to academics/jobs - i guess i can play along for a bit
first of all, as it has been said numerous times on this blog - both schools are currently highly respected acadmic schools. gone are the days when any old “bubba” could get into UGA. the hope scholarship has changed that, and if any of you tech people would bother to look at the average sat/gpa of incoming freshman, you would see that the gap between the school is really not that significant. secondly, just because a guy goes to UGA doesn’t mean he couldn’t get in to tech. i applied to both schools (my dad was a tech grad so i had to humor him) and got into both schools. but gt didn’t offer anything that i was really interested in, so i decided to go to UGA.
as for the jobs debate, i don’t think there are a whole lot of tech grads in managerial roles (unless they have an mba from UGA). you see, managers need good people skills. this is not a skill that is easily developed by late night D&D sessions or star trek marathons. i have plenty of tech friends, but for the most part none of them are a social prodigy. most tech grads can’t display their people skills unless its through a mouse and a blog board (sounds like a lonely weekend). yeah, tech grads get well paying jobs, but so do UGA grads - they are just generally better suited for different things. i’m sure some tech guy doing the behind the scenes number crunching or whatever gets paid a nice chunck of change - but he’s gotta have somebody go out and close a deal for him or socialize with perspective clients. otherwise he’s just playing on the computer - which could be fine with him, who knows.
Now, the sports discussion. C’mon, really tech? you can’t call UGA a jock school on the one hand and say that’s all UGA has, and then on other make a serious claim that tech has better athletics. either have your cake or eat it. if you want to count up TOTAL national championships for each school, be my guest. the truth of the matter is UGA football is solidified as a national power, UGA golf is damn good, UGA baseball is generally good with ocassional great teams, and Felton seems to be slowly but surely pulling out of the mess that Harrick left him in. You can’t make the excuse that gt is rebuilding this year in basketball because guess what, so is uga. the same players that beat tech last night will be there for years to come, and Felton is bringing in more. the future looks pretty nice, for the Dawgs that is.
-5 in a row, and all our players passed their classes - GO DAWGS!
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 12:09 PM | Link to this
Matthew, rest assured I have no inferiority complex when it comes to mental sparring with UGA grads. And if your abilities of analysis were so superior to my Tech capabilities, why didn’t you ask yourself why those kids are scoring 500 and 600s on the SATS?? I do not expect everyone to be scoring what I scored on the SAT. I know that that is not realistic. But 500 and 600??? I scored higher than that in SEVENTH GRADE! This is a bigger story than just a question of averages due to the quantity of people taking the test. Also please do not throw HOPE up as some great benefit to the state of Georgia. Surely you have heard stories of kids around this state who arrive on campuses (admittedly not UGA most likely) on a full academic ride via HOPE and start out in remedial classes. I am sorry, but if you are on an academic scholarship, should you really be in a remedial class? That is called grade inflation and if you are not familiar with it now, wait until you get in the classroom and you get pressured to hand out grades that will qualify kids for the free money. Is it really all that different from business to suggest that you need to follow the money and examine the motivations associated with that? I have helped my former UGA grad roommate grade exam papers before. He is considered by a lot of the students as being pretty tough. But, and this is as someone who has never been one who enjoyed history and has not looked at in an academic refernce frame in a decade, the exam was not that tough if they had actually put a little work into studying for it. So I really do not want this typical teacher dance about to deflect criticism of education. This is not even really a Tech-UGA issues as I am sure many of your own fans would agree with me on this. But if you had these alleged superior capabilities of analysis rather than your self-amusing namecalling of Bug and Moron, you might have actually thought of some of the deeper issues behind your points. I wonder why you like those name calling attempts at taunting? Did a Tech-bound student continually embarass you and show you up in your high school classes? Sounds like you have the inferiority complex to attempt to counter a well-established Tech reputation for academics. It would be about as dumb as I would sound if I came on here claiming that UGA football was only a small step above South Florida. That would be as absurd a premise as the one you are making.
By GatorAid
December 8, 2005 12:11 PM | Link to this
Hey Matthew, you wrote: “You know nothing of psycology. If you had a well-rounded education, you might understand what I’m saying.â€? For your information, psychology isn’t spelled ‘psycology’, and no, you don’t sound like a psychologist (I know; I am one). Please don’t embarrass yourself or your school further. You should be looking forward to meeting a real basketball team on January 7th.
By musashi
December 8, 2005 12:11 PM | Link to this
It looks like the Dawgs recruits this past year are considerably better than Tech’s. Felton did a great job sneaking in Billy Humphrey through the back door when it became apparent that Louis William was going pro. At that time, it seemed that FlA or Ala had the inside track. Mike Mercer had a tough game last night..he will learn how to mix his wide open game within Felton’s system.
It was also very apparent that the Dawgs were playing with alot more consistent energy and concentration than Tech…alot of lapses when it seemed like the Jackets were elsewhere mentally. Hewitt also lacks scorers (outside Morrow and Dickey), which will make going 500% in the ACC really, really tough for the Jackets.
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 12:31 PM | Link to this
I find it funny the whole people skill thing. If getting drunk to a stupor is people skills…no I do not have them (see the UGA article following the excessive drinking around the UGA campus on game Saturday…when was the last time Tech fans had an article written about us that count?) But let’s give you people skills for a minute. Great you are qualified for politics. But I think we have enough evidence that being a politician surely does guarantee that there is any substance behind those people skills. Ever thought about irony that those making the rules of the game via law, are often ones that have very little real knowledge or understanding of the things they are making laws about? This is why the laws that deal with issues surrouding technology which is a large engine for economic growth are so screwed up from all those guys with just people skills but no technical acument messing with them.
As for managers having a UGA MBA, I laugh when I see y’all pump up the UGA MBA. It is third best in the state at BEST, and if Georgia State had enough full time students to be ranked as a full time school, it might be fourth best. Don’t buy…go check the US News ranking. The funny thing is that after an embarassing swoon where the Business School at Georgia Tech dipped briefly below UGA in the ranking, the last two years it has pulled away while UGA has been stuck in neutral at the same place. So you will excuse if I smile when you pump up one of your strongest school that is not even as high quality of a non-core academic school at Tech!
And one more thing to the comments about “if you do not want to do what Tech does, you go to UGA.” No…if I did not want to do what Tech did, I would not have gone to UGA. I would rather have gone to UNC, UVa, or other public that schools that well ahead of UGA in academic reputation or I would have gone to a private school. But coming out of high school, at no point, would I have considerd aiming lower and going to UGA. I would have the same position now, even though it is a little tougher to GET INTO (not really much difference once you are there apparently) than it was when I was in high school.
By pml22
December 8, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this
Anyone that starts bringing up school crap into a basketball game message board, truly shows what a loser they are.
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 12:41 PM | Link to this
pml22…it is a COLLEGE basketball game. I know the COLLEGE part gets lost on a lot of the Dog Nation, but it is a part of COLLEGE basketball. If you do not care about the academic side of the game, go talk about pro ball and the NBA. Of course when Harrick was there buying televisions, I guess UGA was sort of like professional basketball lite.
By ben
December 8, 2005 01:17 PM | Link to this
So, these blogs seem to have become either racial issue talk shows or Junior High School petty attacks between dawgs and jackets. Could we please have a discussion about the game of basketball?
By Paul
December 8, 2005 01:26 PM | Link to this
“The real students at Tech could care less about sports anyway.” Well that just about somes it up Rudolph. Thanks for confirming our suspicions. And by the way, the whole “UGA grads will be my employees” argument is a little outdated. A degree from UGA is worth a lot these days.
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this
ben - I couldn’t agree more, but for your part…did you talk about basketball?
Does anyone know much about the UGA team? How did scout.com rank their recruits? Did they just over-play and beat Tech?…or are they better recruits in the first place?
By GM
December 8, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this
“Racial talks” and “Jr High petty attacks” have much more shock value than discussing the game of basketball. It’s what people want to talk about these days - just look at the evening TV news. Basketball talk? Let’s face it, neither team looked that great last night, granted UGA looked better. Bet neither team makes it to the Big Dance this year, but both make it next year. UGA has not played anybody good yet this year (and unfortunately from this Tech fan’s point of view, still has not). Tech and UGA will both improve during the year, but Tech won’t be able to achieve .500 in the conference. As a season ticketholder, I hope I’m wrong.
By Matthew
December 8, 2005 01:43 PM | Link to this
Gaytor,
Thanks for correcting my grammar.
Not an english major, a history major, and am far from perfect.
Don’t you love it when some smarta— comes on a blog and corrects someone’s spelling a grammar?
If I’m writing a paper or a dissertation, I’ll come find you Gaytor.
If I’m writing a long blog with no spell check or grammar check, and I don’t really have time to proof-read, you’ll excuse me if I don’t run the blog by you, okay?
And while you may be a psychologist, you must have flunked reading comprehension at that school in the Redneck Capitol City, because I never claimed to be, or want to sound like psychologist. I just felt like laying a little Piaget smackdown on Wireless Moron.
Go find a Gaytor blog to blog on, we’re busy here.
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 01:50 PM | Link to this
Does anyone know if we (Tech) has gone after Jason Bennett? He is ranked as a 4 star (on scout.com) Center at 7’2”. We need a true center to have the total package. If we let someone like that go to UGA (they are on his list) and stand nearly half a foot taller (and good 4 stars) than our big men, then it’s going to be a problem. I love Dickey and Smith, but at 6’8-9” they are power-forwards, let’s be honest. Why does Tech have such a hard time getting true Centers?
If the kid wants to play in the premier league, we need to get him to Tech. He would be a nice finishing touch for the team. He certainly would get lots of coverage and big time exposure in the ACC.
Thoughts?
By GM
December 8, 2005 01:54 PM | Link to this
You would think that a great center would want to come to Tech to play with the great point guards (not Zam) and forwards we’ve had, but we always end up with 2nd tier at center.
Just think if we had an accurate passer on the football team to complement Calvin, Bilbo, and the others.
By GW
December 8, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this
WirelessBuzz must not be doin’ much train drivin’, I mean engineering today. His keyboard must be on steroids. I heard Tech was invited to the bowl in SF to save the federal government money. One player will be left behind at Alcatraz.
By GM
December 8, 2005 02:01 PM | Link to this
Didn’t you get the message? We’re talking basketball now.
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 02:06 PM | Link to this
Agree on the QB comment… Same on the Center comment…I just wonder why…if I were a bad a* center I would want to go somewhere: With great gaurds and forwards and who would be a place I could get lots of excellent exposure…that’s Tech.
By GatorAid
December 8, 2005 02:07 PM | Link to this
Matthew Cafaro - Here’s what YOU wrote: “Yeah, I busted out the psychology stick, what are you bugs going to do about it? You know nothing of psycology. If you had a well-rounded education, you might understand what I’m saying.” Those are your words. What is a ‘psychology stick’ Matthew, and how do you ‘bust’ it out? It seems like your well rounded education from UGA is severely limited along with your analytical skills. Do your school a favor and don’t embarrass yourself further.
And before you start calling me names maybe you should comment on the actual point of my post: You pups won’t meet a real basketball team until January 7th, at which time you’ll be Gator Bait. Go back to your Alex Ross comic books Matthew Cafaro, recess is over.
By GM
December 8, 2005 02:14 PM | Link to this
Difficult academics may play a role (and no, I’m not inviting more school comparison commentary). I recall Randolph Morris (not sure if center, forward, or both) openly admitted selecting KY over GT because KY would be easier.
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 02:16 PM | Link to this
How do the other ACC schools do it though? The ACC basketball schools are mostly tough academically.
By GM
December 8, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this
Matthew and Gator: How about trading email addresses and arguing privately. Nobody else cares.
By GM
December 8, 2005 02:20 PM | Link to this
Morris chose SEC over ACC, but you make a good point. Hewitt could probably comment on that. Paul, are you there?
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 02:38 PM | Link to this
Wow the comments come to a screeching halt when we are focused on basketball and not insults? Just damn.
By GM
December 8, 2005 02:41 PM | Link to this
Where’d Ben go? He was the one that wanted to talk basketball.
By haven in Athens
December 8, 2005 02:47 PM | Link to this
Oh gosh everybody miss the point we not only have better athletics but we have the prettiest girls. Man, Athens is full of beautiful girls. Gtech people not only your athletic sucks and your campus sucks but also you have the ugliest girls around, I rather be a waiter in Athens over being a president at Tech.
Go Dawgs!
By GM
December 8, 2005 02:55 PM | Link to this
I’d put Tech’s Top 10 girls against UGA’s Top 10 any day. But I wouldn’t go past that, so you definitely make a good point, I have to admit (oh, and you certainly seem like a real class act yourself).
By WirelessBuzz
December 8, 2005 03:01 PM | Link to this
Guess that tells you how many UGA care about basketball. Had a UGA alum tell me point blank this morning that he was not going to rag on me, because he just did not care about basketball.
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 03:03 PM | Link to this
haven in Athens -
Wow, you really represent UGA with class. Your mother must be very proud of your filthy cesspool of a mouth. I hope she isn’t paying for your education.
By GM
December 8, 2005 03:08 PM | Link to this
Haven’s just trying to stir it up a bit. I’m surprised I haven’t seen more red neck jokes on this blog.
By IMF
December 8, 2005 03:10 PM | Link to this
These academic arguements/insults are lame. Seriously, I’m as big a UGA fan as there is, but the fact is our two schools don’t compete in academics - just athletics. I want both schools to be as good as they can be academically, and they both seem to be doing a pretty good job of it these days. Do I want everyone that goes to Tech to get a poor education and not succeed in life? No. Let’s keep the jabbing in the sports arena, since that is where our entertainment lies.
By Ga_Tech_92
December 8, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this
IMF - Well said. I agree completely. I think UGA and Tech have totally different things to offer academically. If I want to be a Vet, I’m going to UGA. If I want an Engineering Degree, I’m going to Tech. It’s important for the state of Ga that both are good SCHOOLS. It’s hard to compare them in that way.
So, this 7’2” stud is coming to UGA then possibly for all the hot coeds then? I can see that being beneficial :)
By UGALawDawg
December 8, 2005 03:19 PM | Link to this
These guys that write these book length blogs can’t possibly be employed, can they?
By GM
December 8, 2005 03:26 PM | Link to this
Probably retired.
By UGALawDawg
December 8, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this
Good answer GM.
By RipRap
December 8, 2005 03:33 PM | Link to this
haven in athens: “I rather be a waiter in Athens over being a president at Tech.”
…UGALawDawg, guess ‘haven’ hasn’t gone to work yet at the restaurant. At least he has started his career in fast food retailing. And whew, I was worried there that he might apply for the President’s position at Tech. I guess we got lucky.
By Rambling Gambling
December 8, 2005 03:37 PM | Link to this
We all agree that Athens has some hotties - thats why we drive way the hell out there every couple weeks and CLEAN UP. Loganville police setup roadblocks to try and prevent motivated wrecks from stealing all your women.
Athens women LOVE tech men - why do you think so many of them wake up in Tech fraternity houses and dorm rooms on Sunday morning. Maybe its the provider instinct. Or maybe they’re just not that interested in the selection of mullet wearin’, skoal dippin’, sister kissin’, pickup drivin’, rebel flag wavin’ “joe dirts” on campus.
UGA men don’t really care about the women on campus anyway - you’re all too busy cowtipping and exchanging your favorite lines from Deliverance, “boy, you sure got a pretty mouth…”
Reggie gets mad ladies out in BFE (athens)- he brought 3 of them home in one night (or was it 4?)
By GM
December 8, 2005 03:40 PM | Link to this
Wait a minute now…I think Haven is on to something. I’m quitting my sales rep job, and moving to Athens to become a waiter. I hear all the girls just go nuts over waiters there.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 03:41 PM | Link to this
I’m a Tech man and married a UGA gal. mmmmmmmm yummy.
By McDonoughDawg
December 8, 2005 03:44 PM | Link to this
From some of the Tech fan’s responses to this blog, I can clearly see that it HURTS them right now. I love it.
The so called big GT time BBALL Coach has had his system in place for a while and he gets punked slapped in Athens by a buncha Frehsmen. Oh the Humanity!! No wonder the Techies are so uptight.
GATA DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!
By GM
December 8, 2005 03:44 PM | Link to this
Ahh…finally some good red neck jokes.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 03:53 PM | Link to this
I must give the puppies their due. They just wanted it more. They out-hustled us last night. Hats off to the puppies. I believe in Coach Hewitt. He, in my opinion, is the BEST college bball coach in Georgia. Felton is good, but like many of the bloggers he might go to a better school. This Tech team reminds me of the puppies team from last year. Remember, Morrow and Dickey got the most significant playing time last year. They are very young, and inexperienced. They will have the same growing pains as the puppies had last year. With the #4 recruting class in the country coming in next year, and this team getting experience this year the sky is the limit for the Tech program. Coach Hewitt will get this team under control, and maybe some beat downs are comin’, but the team will play better. I hope we make the tournament this year, but wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t.
By GM
December 8, 2005 03:57 PM | Link to this
I agree. Wish we could feel the same way about football.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 03:58 PM | Link to this
GM: It didn’t look as if our boys wanted to play defense last night. To beat a Ok UGA team, that shoots the 3 well, the 3 point line needed to be defended better. What say you?
By Matthew
December 8, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this
Gaytor,
Well, I have to agree with GM.
Don’t know why you feel the need to interject yourself into a family (UGA-Tech) squabble that we’re enjoying. No one asked anything from the mullet crowd.
But you seem to delight in knowing my name, while I don’t have the (dis)pleasure of knowing yours.
If you know my whole name, you must also know my email address.
Anything else you want to say to me, you can email it to me.
Smarta—.
By GM
December 8, 2005 04:08 PM | Link to this
I get the feeling it takes Hewitt 1, 2, 3, or 4 years to get it through a guy’s head that he has to play defense, depending on the guy. High school players focus little on defense (or free throw shooting). Hewitt’s philosophy of defense first I think is a good one, once everyone is on board. We beat a lot of good teams the last couple of years, but not with offense. I think this team, and then next year with the incoming recruits, could be better than recent years, if they subscribe to playing defense. So yes, the 3 point needed to be defended better, in my opinion.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 04:11 PM | Link to this
GM: Free-throw percentage needs to improve. Good point. You seem to be up on the recruting game, do you know if Tech is getting a big man? I think Smith is a physical specimen. I’d hate to meet him in a dark alley.
By GM
December 8, 2005 04:18 PM | Link to this
Not that up on recruiting. I do know that Jarvis Crittenton and one other highly regarded player are coming next year. I think Jarvis is point, the other a forward, plus a couple of other decent players. No true big man that I heard.
By Gary
December 8, 2005 04:34 PM | Link to this
No Ken C. Those aren’t UGA grads serving your fries. Those are Tech drop outs saying “What d ya have” at the varsity. Enough of this “my education is superior.” UGA is was of the finest liberal arts schools in the country. I know from experience that you need to have a high SAT score to get into UGA along with good grades. And don’t talk about the academics of athletes. I recall Tech just got put on probation for allowing ineligible football players to suit up.
By T'Ville Dawg
December 8, 2005 04:41 PM | Link to this
Wireless Buzz and all other jealous Nerds: Talk is cheap and so are your athletics and academics. As for talk about the b-ball teams, UGA’s future looks MUCH brighter than the Nerds. We have better players NOW and are bringing in better players. BTW, we also have a better record against you nerds over the last 10 years in hoops!!! Baseball? you are the most overrated program in college baseball history (FSU included). Have you ever won a national championship? We have. CWS appearances? We own you there too Nerds. Matter of fact have ya’ll won a NC in anything other than your TAINTED football one? NO!!! So shut it and face the facts. any decent person would now their place and quit trying to LIE about being superior in sports when we all know that to be UNTRUE! Now go warm up that train at Six Flags and “engineer” it around the park. My kid wants to ride! By the way, get on your own Nerd site, this one is fir WINNERS!!
By Rambling Gambling
December 8, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this
Barnyard lovin’ - you win there too.
By GM
December 8, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this
Gary and T’ville: You’ve got to admit, Rambling Gambling brought some funny stuff. Remember, most of us view all this as amusing. Don’t get too worked up over it.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this
T’Ville…Where is UGA ranked as far as bball recruting? Tech has the #4 ranked class coming next year.
By T'Ville Dawg
December 8, 2005 04:57 PM | Link to this
ROD, who just
Rod, who won last night? And, I hear some recruiting violations and/or questionable recruiting tactics are going on at Nerdland. 91-75!!!!!
By RC
December 8, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this
The Thrashers are a true disappointment I will be attending the Ice Dogs games record: 10-2-1 Yes Georgia Hockey Tech don’t bother with this one, Bees don’t do well in freezing conditions. By the way, you lost to the Dawgs in volleyball too. Not your year, just let us enjoy this one
By GM
December 8, 2005 05:01 PM | Link to this
Questionable recruiting violations? Every program has had their share.
By T'Ville Dawg
December 8, 2005 05:01 PM | Link to this
Wireless, could you be any more insecure about your education?
By Rod
December 8, 2005 05:04 PM | Link to this
Hey T’Ville…I gave the pups their due. My question was: Where is UGA bball recruting ranked? Tech’s class is #4, and if your referring to the kid coming from Memphis, it was boosters from another school, not Tech, involved in a possible violation, but nothing ever happened, because there is no evidence of anyhthing happening. That story came from the AJC the day the kid signed.
By GM
December 8, 2005 05:04 PM | Link to this
I want to hear more from Rambling Gambling. Everyone else is boring.
By RipRap
December 8, 2005 05:18 PM | Link to this
I agree with GM. These flamers and name callers are really insecure. They’re just trying to get a reaction. The best thing to do is to ignore them.
How do you see the Dawgs doing in the SEC? How about the Jackets in the ACC?
By T'Ville Dawg
December 8, 2005 05:21 PM | Link to this
according to Nerd logic, UGA is the 2005-06 ACC Champions in hoops.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 05:22 PM | Link to this
RipRap…UGA might not do well in the SEC…How many games did they win last year 4 (I think??). I’ll go on a limb and say 4 again. They shoot the 3 pointer way too much, and they might go cold, but they shot the ball pretty good last night from behind the arc. Tech might not win 6 games this year, but who knows what will happen.
By RC
December 8, 2005 05:24 PM | Link to this
Rambling Gambling I cannot believe you metioned the ladies here in Athens, I’m pleased to tell you that UGA was ranked in the top five in the nation for best looking ladies, when was the last time Tech was known for….never mind. Also, The Deliverence thing, I am familiar with the movie but I have to say you seem to know actual quotes from the movie, I do not. The only thing ya got going for you is that Phil Gordon is an alumnus, but even he stops in from time to time to take money from your frats.
Oh wait, this just in…. Georgia has dominated Tech in every sport this year maybe they can come back at Gymnastics you don’t have a Gymnastics team, probably because the Gymdogs are hot.
By GM
December 8, 2005 05:26 PM | Link to this
Dogs go .500 in SEC this year, but go to the NIT. Tech goes 6-10 in the ACC and stays home. Hope I’m wrong.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 05:32 PM | Link to this
Just looked at the schedule for Tech…they only play Duke and North Carolina once, each in Febuary, but they play Boston College at home so maybe there is reason to have hope.
By GM
December 8, 2005 05:34 PM | Link to this
Wow Rod, what a sense of humor. You really know your sports.
By GM
December 8, 2005 05:38 PM | Link to this
Rod, my apologies, thought I was reading Dog fan sarcasm in your recent post.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 05:38 PM | Link to this
Has anybody seen the Tech football schedule…Motre Dame comes a callin’ on Sept. 2.
By IMF
December 8, 2005 05:39 PM | Link to this
Rod, You do realize that comparing recruiting rankings in college basketball is a crap-shoot at best (as opposed to football). Since you can only have 12 scholarships at a time and with the abolition of the 5/8 rule, teams sign as few as zero recruits and as many as 5 or more per class. So how do you compare some team’s five players to another teams one? That being said, Tech has a nice class this year (No. 7 according to Rivals with 4 signees), as UGA only has room for one signee. Last year, UGA had a top 5 or 10 class before Louis Williams opted for the NBA and I’m not sure where they ended up (I think around 20 maybe).
By Rod
December 8, 2005 05:40 PM | Link to this
GM: I don’t understand. Did I do something wrong?
By RipRap
December 8, 2005 05:42 PM | Link to this
Thanks GM. Here’s my take:
UGA goes 6-10 with the following WINS: MS, TN, VU, SC, @MSU, & AR (all home wins except Miss St and more wins toward the end of the season)
Tech goes 7-9 with the following WINS: UVA (already), CLEM, MD, UM, @FSU, NCSU, & @CLEM (all home wins except FSU & CLEM and although the team will be much better toward the end of the season it will be hard to win against teams like UNC, Duke, & Wake at the end of the season)
I don’t think either team goes to the big dance but the late season wins by UGA against Vandy, USC, MSU & Arkansas might get the attention of the NIT, but probabaly not.
I believe both teams will be significantly better later in the season.
By Rod
December 8, 2005 05:44 PM | Link to this
Sorry NOTRE Dame fans…IMF…yes UGA would have had an OUTSTANDING class this year if Williams didn’t go to the NBA. BTW…has he played any this year? I know rankings are a crap shoot. If Championships were handed out based on these rankings, Duke and North Carolina would have a lot more titles.
By GM
December 8, 2005 05:48 PM | Link to this
I think both teams will upset somebody big this year. Tech showed that capability at Michigan State. UGA may turn out better than we think.
By RipRap
December 8, 2005 05:53 PM | Link to this
I agree GM, both teams will play spoiler to one or more teams. At the same time, both teams will likeley lose one or more of the games I mentioned in my last post that they should theoretically win; so the overall record probably won’t change. Both teams have had woeful games (UGA - Old Dominion & Tech - IL Chicago & UGA)
By Rod
December 8, 2005 05:53 PM | Link to this
GM: You realize Tech plays Duke and Carolina once this year in late Feburary…right? Maybe they’ll upset one or both of them. I’m not buying into UGA being any good, THIS YEAR. They beat Tech yes, but other than Tech they really have not had any competition, after last night, Tech wasn’t much competition, and I think the teams they play in the SEC will be rough for them, especially if the live by the 3 point shot.
By wes
December 8, 2005 06:52 PM | Link to this
I wouldn’t read this blog unless I wanted to become the dumbest man alive. i sorted through some of the “literature”. I’d venture a guess that only 5% of what was written pertained to the game last night.
By jim
December 8, 2005 07:37 PM | Link to this
how do you get the ga. grad. off of your porch, pay him for the pizza.
By T'Ville Dawg
December 8, 2005 07:57 PM | Link to this
how do you get Jim off your porch? Throw a stick and say “fetch”!
By SugarDawg
December 8, 2005 09:07 PM | Link to this
No, you get Jim off the porch by kicking him in the “Emeralds.”
By vetteDAWG
December 8, 2005 09:18 PM | Link to this
Dear Bee’s : That VICTORY last night by the DAWGS was the 5th out of the last 7 against the bee’s.I really don’t think you have ANY valid reason to claim your BB program is any better than UGA’s. You havn’t beaten us in Athens since Jimmy Carter was president.Hewitt’s winning % is a sad .580 - that’s less than 6 out of every 10 games, you bee’s are math wizards are you not ???? I am not putting you down , I am just stating the facts.Football school - HUH ??? Seem’s as though us DUMB - INBRED - LEGHUMPING - MUTTS get the last laugh again.