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Braine on the defensive, and for good reason
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
If Dave Braine on Thursday looked like a man who had yelled, “Timber!” only to realize too late that the tree was falling the wrong way, it’s understandable.
Braine is expected to retire in the next year or two. That’s assuming he doesn’t enter a witness protection program before then.
“Nobody enjoys being beat up,” Georgia Tech’s athletics director said Thursday. “You’d have to be a glutton for punishment. But you have to stand up for what you believe, and if you can’t do that you don’t have any business being in this business. You’re not going to make everybody happy.”
True. But what were the odds of complete alienation?
Braine started the week by announcing that football coach Chan Gailey is being awarded a new five-year contract. Everyone waited for the punch line.
You could argue that the timing couldn’t be worse, given that the Jackets had just been whacked by Virginia and seemed headed for another obscure postseason bowl. But Braine probably figured it was better to announce the decision now than wait until after the Miami and Georgia games. Relatively speaking, Bee Nation is singing “Kumbaya” right now.
If Braine didn’t lose everybody with the show of support for Gailey, he took care of the rest by publicly stating the Jackets “will never” win nine or 10 games consistently. Now, most people could analyze Tech and the ACC and logically deduce that. But as an AD, you just don’t say that. It undermines everything a coach or a player works for. I’ve never ever heard general managers of expansion teams state, “We’ve got no chance.”
How do you feel if you’re a season-ticket holder — or a donor who helped pay for a certain stadium expansion? If Braine’s goal was to help Gailey, he made it worse. What’s an opposing recruiter going to do with that quote?
(I’m still trying to figure that whole thing about Gailey having the third-hardest job in college football behind coaches at Notre Dame and Army. I always figured Prairie View was pretty tough. Kentucky. Vanderbilt. Rice. Isn’t Notre Dame the school with a TV network and automatic recruits? When did that become the hardest job? And why Army, but not Navy?)
Of course, it gets worse.
A Fulton County judge forced the Jackets to reinstate Reuben Houston, the defensive back facing felony charges of conspiring to possess and distribute 100 pounds of marijuana. Reinstatement isn’t a story line that would fly even on “Law and Order.” Or in the SEC.
Then came Thursday. Probation. Tech knew it was coming, but it turned out to be even worse than Braine expected. They were hit with “lack of institutional control,” the NCAA equivalent of a four-letter word. Suddenly, Tech, which had never been on probation, was being described with the same phrase that was slapped on SMU.
The Jackets must vacate all records for games involving 17 athletes in four sports (including 11 in football) over a six-year span. They also will lose six football scholarships each of the next two years.
The NCAA investigating committee was chaired by an Alabama law professor. I figure he knows an infraction when he sees one.
Braine and school President Wayne Clough believe the punishment is excessive. Tech may appeal. I have no idea why. If seven-win seasons are suddenly the standard, is losing six scholarships that big of a deal?
Braine has been spinning ever since the Gailey contract. This week, he acknowledged the growing legion of his Braine-haters, and he punctuated his remarks Thursday with: “This won’t help any.”
He also vowed to make it to the weekend without another news conference.
“The most important thing is when I go home, I feel good,” he said. “All of us have done a very good job, and we’re a very good program. We’re not mediocre, we don’t want to be mediocre, we don’t strive for mediocrity, and anybody who thinks that is wrong.”
That’s it, Dave. Keep telling yourself the tree fell the other way. It won’t hurt as much.
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By Jacko
November 17, 2005 10:41 PM | Link to this
Braine will be gone before the end of this season, Clough will retire before June of 2006, and Gailey will survive another season.
This will all change if the rumors are correct regarding the “funding” issues in the Athletic department. If rumors are true then everyone from Clough to the janitor will be replaced.
Stay tuned!
By ron
November 17, 2005 10:42 PM | Link to this
The probation and the RH thing are peanuts compared to the “never win 9 or 10 games consistently” comment. Here’s to the guys there that are busting their butts to make him a liar.
By GTHater
November 17, 2005 10:42 PM | Link to this
Well GT, welcome to probation club. The really sad thing is that through all that CHEATING, you didn’t even win that many games.
And I am tired of hearing about smart you and your school are. How smart to you have to be to know how to count? First Reggie Ball, now the GTAA. No, doesn’t sound like incompetence, sounds like cheating.
Enjoy your time in probation club. First rule of probation club, don’t talk about probation club.
By GTME1986
November 17, 2005 10:45 PM | Link to this
Good summary Jeff of the week from Hell for Jacket fans. I can only assume the IRS is next. I kinda feel like the Titanic except we hit icebergs on BOTH sides of the ship and there are NO life boats.
Terrell Owens is starting to look like “Man of the Year” material compared to Braine.
Do you think T.O. might want to be an AD in the ACC - just wondering?
By gooberdawg
November 17, 2005 10:46 PM | Link to this
U sed it GThtr!! they don no nuthin down thar. thay thinks they smart r sumpin. GOOOOO DAWGS WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Ralph
November 17, 2005 11:09 PM | Link to this
To Hell With Georgia!!!
Go Jackets!!!
By White&Gold
November 17, 2005 11:30 PM | Link to this
The NCAA has gone too far. What we did was not that bad. We just didn’t keep accurate track of the athlete’s hours because it should be their responsiblity. It’s not like we forged grades or gave them any money. The words they used to describe the infractions were more harsh than any I can remember. I just don’t believe we would let players play who shouldn’t be playing since we have to recruit excellent student athletes. Why Cheat when you don’t have to? Because we didn’t cheat. We are the class of the ACC and had to leave the SEC years ago because of that fact. Something you forgot to mention Jeff. Go Jackets…we will kill the real cheater Doggies on our home turf next Saturday!!!!!
By Bryan G.
November 18, 2005 12:56 AM | Link to this
White & Gold…maybe you shouldn’t worry about beating UGA so much and worry more if you have any ineligible players next Saturday. On the 26th, the Dawgs make it 12 in a row against Tech!!! (this is such justice for the 98 and 99 games you guys didn’t really win anyway!!!)
By SteveO
November 18, 2005 01:13 AM | Link to this
Tech beat UGA three in a row. like it or not. the classes Tech players took were still harder than those that the UGA players were supposed to take. It doesn’t really matter what they say, Tech won 10 games in 1998, 9 in 1999, 9 in 2000, 8 in 2001, 7 in 2002 through 2004. Don’t like it? Don’t care.
By For GTHater
November 18, 2005 01:29 AM | Link to this
GTHater, please learn how to write “How smart to you have”. Seriously, if you’re going to try to insult someone’s intelligence, at least try to sound like an average person as opposed to an inbred, back-country halfwit. You just look flat out stupid. Focus now, focus!
By Vince Doofus
November 18, 2005 04:08 AM | Link to this
Only a banjo-playin’, mullethead DAWG would count the wins but not the losses during the period. Sounds like typical mutt wisdom. Why dont you exclude the wins in the early 80’s when you were busted for passing kids who didn’t even go to class. The NCAA is unbelieveable that they would do this to GT over clerical errors and lump us into the same blatant, deliberate cheating that SEC teams are famous for. Interesting that the lead investigator was an Alabama guy.
By mtraininjax
November 18, 2005 07:41 AM | Link to this
The sad thing about UGA is that their program has not been discovered for violations. They will come, maybe not this year or next, but they will come. Who would have ever expected a final exam with 3point shots as a question on an exam. Dummying down the cowtown school is not the same as playing “supposed” ineligible players. Tech will appeal.
By Murphy
November 18, 2005 07:46 AM | Link to this
As a Tech alum, I am deeply distressed that we played ANY inapprorpiate athletes in ANY sport. I personally took great satisfaction in knowing we had never been on probation, ran a clean program, and still believe that we do.
11 players over 5 seasons…?
In comparison to the payoff scandals in the SEC and the purchase of gifts etc. at other places, this sounds like peanuts. I don’t know if I would appeal, but it sounds very harsh. If we got this punishment, how can Alabama still have a football team?
BTW… Check out when virtually all of the infractions happened, under O’Leary’s watch. So for all of the Chan haters and George backers, keep that in mind. I would also bet that nearly all (if not all) of the athletes involved in 2002 were also O’Leary’s players.
Everyone says Coach Gailey inherited a healthy program and attribute that to his relative (notice I said relative) success on field. Hogwash. He has lost several past players, and now future players, due to O’Leary’s actions (grade issues).
But take heart… When Dave Braine retires, the new AD will can Coach Gailey and bring in someone else. Not even Steve Spurrier can survive a new AD with an itchy trigger finger.
By Hal
November 18, 2005 08:36 AM | Link to this
Well Jeff you were wrong on one point the timing was right because how would it look if Gailey was awarded a new extension after the UGA game. This is a Novenber that will go down in Tech history as it’s worst. As far as I can see Braine is retired he doesn’t want to have to work to find another football coach and he was asleep at the wheel to have us end up in hot water with the NCAA.
By Buzzinoff
November 18, 2005 08:43 AM | Link to this
Um, lets see….before any leg humpers start throwing rocks they better remember Ms. Jan Kemp. I would much rather be known for these types of infractions rather than be known for having an AD trying force teachers to change grades of football players taking underwater basket weaving classes. BTW, Ms. Kemp’s checking account is probably still looking mighty fat.
By Mac Hall
November 18, 2005 08:52 AM | Link to this
Jeff; Great column….What is Braine thinking!? Isn’t anyone watching him?? Where is Wayne Clough? Mac
By Jerry81
November 18, 2005 08:54 AM | Link to this
The blame for the Probation is Dave Braines. He is the one that made a dumb but oh so politically correct decision to remove Coaches from Players Academics. Hows that move worked? Who is closer to the player day in and day out than his Coach? The Athletic Department is sure shootin responsible for keeping track of players grades, courses, class attendence, etc…
Having said that to my GT brothers, let me remind my learned Dawg friends of Jan Kemp vs. Vince Dooley and best of all Scholarship Basketball Players cheating in a class taught by the Assistant Basketball Coach where the University approved course material for credit toward graduation was what color are our home jerseys and how many points is a three point shot worth? There is firm ground for your delight in our current Probation, chest thumping over whio has acedemics now and pride in the value of your degree.
By john(Bean)
November 18, 2005 09:03 AM | Link to this
This is a classic situation of “FUBAR”. It is amazing our athletic program is in the state it is in. All we can do is take our licks, learn from our mistakes, correct them and stand behind our players. If they can keep the next two games even close, it will be a statement of the type of people they are. Enough said about Clough, Braine, and Gailey. Their actions speak for themselves. GO JACKETS!
By THE TRUTH
November 18, 2005 09:33 AM | Link to this
DOES THE NAME “THOMAS STEPHENS” RING A BELL FOR ANYONE…ACADEMIC ADVISER FOR GEORGE O’LEARY…FORMER TECH GRAD AND ALL AROUND “MAMA’S BOY”.
HE IS ONLY ONE AT FAULT HERE.THIS RESTS ON HIS NARROW SHOULDERS…
By realist
November 18, 2005 09:41 AM | Link to this
Tech Fans:
Quit making excuses for our pathetic administration! The lack of institutional control label is absolutely appropriate in this case. We allowed multilple players that were academically ineligible to participate in mutiple sports, over multiple years! If that does not represent a lack of control at the “institutional” level, what does?
Furthermore, Dave Braine is a public relations time bomb. Every time he opens his mouth, he embarrasses us all! He somehow managed to turn Gailey’s contract extension news conference into a concesion speech! And yesterday, the leader and figurehead of our entire athletic program passed the buck on the probabtion issue! I guess he get’s payed the “big bucks” for shirking responsibility and generally mucking up the works. Where is the leadership in the AA?
Dr. Clough, wake up! Your athletic director is clearly overmatched.
By Doug
November 18, 2005 09:43 AM | Link to this
White&Gold … “We are the class of the ACC and had to leave the SEC years ago because of that fact”? Uh, no. Tech’s records in their last 5 seasons in the Southeastern Conference: 6-5, 5-5, 7-4, 7-3-1, 7-3. SEC record: 20-15. Bowl wins: 0. If that’s “the class of the SEC,” then your standards apparently weren’t any higher then than they are under Dave Braine now.
By Brad
November 18, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this
Even as a UGA fan, I was dismayed to hear the 9-10 win quote out of Braine’s mouth. I like to see Tech competitive and successful (just not against us, of course). Those kids and coaches are busting their butts to put wins on the board. It’s good that he’s honest, but you don’t have to tell it all. Dept. heads need a little rah-rah factor for the cause even when times are tough.
By DrT.
November 18, 2005 09:49 AM | Link to this
Obviously the offenses were EXTREMELY serious. Tech is just lucky that this was a 1st probation. Just imagine the penalty if we had been sanctioned in the past. Lack of institutional control is very serious. And I hope that this will temper any enthusiasm for the O’fat one. His entegrity or lack thereof is not a fit here.
By realist
November 18, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this
And another thing, Tech fans:
Quit blamming O’Leary for this mess. The problem was clearly at the administrative level, not at the coaching level. I don’t want O’Liar back here either (not that it would ever happen), but let’s don’t make him the scapegoat in some weak revisionist history ploy!
By TheTruth
November 18, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this
Why don’t you O’Leary apologists just nominate him for sainthood?
By Techaholic
November 18, 2005 10:13 AM | Link to this
Tech fans … forget the mutts. WE now have our OWN internal issues and have been put on probation!!!!!!
TIME to look at those in charge who did not do their jobs, starting with the President on down!
Tech just got slapped with probation and this was major. Tech fans should be appalled, saddened and downright angry!
Let’s stop looking at other teams and their programs … we got stuff WE NEED TO GET RIGHT!
Hiring Chan Gailey was a hit AND A TERRIBLE HIRE.
Having Dave Braine renewing his contract, another hit.
Flunkgate a hit.
Rueben Houston allowed BACK IN SCHOOL, a hit.
Rueben Houston allowed on the team, a hit.
Dave Braine saying in a public forum, basically you better accept what I tell you cause we can’t do better, a hit.
Dave Braine ‘calling out’ grads and fans who go way back and TRYING TO SPIN that we shouldn’t expect anything better, a hit.
Dave Braine, a hit.
Academic oversight by those who are suppose to know and to their job correctly, a hit.
President Clough - could careless about football at this storied Institution … a hit!
The Georgia Institute of Technology TOOK THE HIT!
The school this week has forever been connected to schools and other programs who break the rules and has stained their reputation … academics and athletics took a hit this week and it will long be remembered … that should not have happened!
By Skip
November 18, 2005 10:17 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe that Tech has made sportwriters convinced that they have high academic standards for their football players. They have never been A Vanderbilt or Duke with admission standards for footbal players.
By Techaholic
November 18, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this
Whoever says this is George O’Leary’s fault is a total imbecile! By the way, some of the academic wrongdoing was also under Gailey’s watch!
I’m not a Gailey fan and disagree that he should even be GT’s coach BUT neither coaches were the catalysts for this mess.
Academics SIGNED OFF of players credits and didn’t do their jobs. It’s disappointing that an ELITEST academic institution WOULD HAVE PEOPLE OF THEIR ACADEMIC PAYROLL who do not know their jobs … I blame anyone who oversees this and is responsible in the hiring!
Tech has some changes to make in a whole lot of places on the inside and it NEEDS TO START AT THE TOP!
By ylwjacket
November 18, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this
Con you imagine the crap our guys will hear this weekend, or next, or anytime, on the field? If I was an opposing player, I’d be reminding them that your own AD doen’t think you can do it.
Not supporting your program, the probation, and all of the other things, are firing offenses. Casual retirement should not be an option. This house needs to be cleaned.
By Gordon Pfeiffer
November 18, 2005 10:27 AM | Link to this
I couldn’t disagree more with those that have said the probation thing is not as bad as the “9 or 10 win” comment. Probation is huge, because we are no longer on the list of schools that have never been on probation. Since 1989, we have not been on the list of schools that have never had a major violation. It’s true that what happened was not done on purpose, but the end result is the same: We are now like UGA, just another school that breaks the rules. Through all the 1 win seasons (I endured two of them while at Tech in the early 80’s), at least we could say with pride that we followed the rules, but now that is gone too. I feel 10 times worse today then when we lost 51-7 to UGA a few years ago.
By TheTruth
November 18, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this
I guess a Head Coach that graduated 33% of his players was too uncaring to monitor academics. Mark Richt goes so far as to know each and every day if somebody doesn’t go to class.
Techaholic, YOU are a moron if you think that the head coach doesn’t set the tone academically.
By Jon M
November 18, 2005 10:50 AM | Link to this
Couple questions…
When did Braine say Tech would “never� win 9 or 10 games a season consistently?
How is that even close to saying “we don’t have a chance�?
What does Tech have to loose by appealing?
How does Tech get great basketball players but not great football players? Do those great basketball players have outstanding grades? I don’t thinks so!
By Not O'fatso's fault
November 18, 2005 10:53 AM | Link to this
It’s not cheating unless you get caught. And we got cauth. O’Leary would not have let us get caught. What Braine(less) likes about Gailey is that he wouldn’t allow that crap. They just weren’t expecting this harsh of a saction by the NCAA. Thanks Braine(less)
By Jerry81
November 18, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this
The “Lack of Institutional Control” upsets Braine because that falls squarely on the Man who is supposed to be in control. Braine was not in control of the academics of the athletes under his supervision. If Dr. Clough truly cares about academics for GT Students then he should care for all students including athletes. Any Dean of Any School At GT would be fired if found guilty by an outside panel of Lack of Institutional Control. Why Dr. Clough is Mr. Braine not held to the same standard?
By Rogers
November 18, 2005 11:05 AM | Link to this
Having read all of the comments today, I note that things never change. UGA still bites and I’ll take my Tech degree anyday. Who cares if we vacate those games. We know who won or lost and that is all that matters. I don’t care if we can’t look at the banners on the South end of Grant Field. It has always amazed me though how these things happen. Like O’Leary’s fake resume and these inelligible players. How hard is it to manage these things. This is not rocket science. Of all that has gone on, the thing that bothers me the most is the AD saying Tech will never win 9-10 games consistantly. He’s saying that even with a couple of Gimme’s on the schedule. I wouldn’t care how many wins we had if we played top teams at Grant Field and not the likes of the Citadal, Western Carolina etc. Years ago when Tech dropped the annual games with Auburn and Tenn from the schedule I wrote a letter to Homer Rice and complained about the loss of tradition. He said I obviously didn’t understand the economics of the ACC and the need to qualify for a bowl game. Well, I had rather go 5-6 every year and see competitive games at Granat Field than go 6-5 and go to a minor bown because we beat up on Furman or the Citaldal. BRING BACK BOBBY ROSS!!!!!!!
By DrT.
November 18, 2005 11:12 AM | Link to this
Thank you Rogers. I wish we had more fans like you.
By L.B.
November 18, 2005 11:12 AM | Link to this
There are four kinds of managers/people…
1.) Smart and competent
2.) Smart and incompetent
3.) Dumb and competent
4.) Dumb and incompetent
Guess what kind of people are running Tech’s AD and Football Deparments? Hint..It’s not 1, 2 or 3….
By George P
November 18, 2005 11:18 AM | Link to this
Dave Braine just needs to resign now.
By Details
November 18, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this
I would not have such a problem with the “admin error” excuse if it hadn’t gone on for so many years. 7 years lack of attention to detail from an engineering school? No way. Had to be in the design. I hope the fans that are minimizing this are not designing bridges or skyscrapers. Of course if those tiles on the Space Shuttle are indicative…….
By Jackjacket
November 18, 2005 11:25 AM | Link to this
It seems that the NCAA has different standards based on the school that is involved. At least that is the feeling I have when I read these quotes.
Leroy Ervin, Kemp’s boss, was secretly taped at a faculty meeting. “I know for a fact that these kids would not be here if it were not for their utility to the institution,” he was caught saying in a staff meeting. “They are used as a kind of raw material in the production of some goods to be sold as whatever product, and they get nothing in return.”
Some of the comments made by officials back then to justify the cheating to keep athletes eligible remain astounding, even today. After Kemp sued the university for firing her, defense attorney Hale Almand described for the jury the typical Georgia football player. “We may not make a university student out of him,” he said, “but if we can teach him to read and write, maybe he can work at the post office rather than as a garbage man when he gets through with his athletic career.”
As would later happen at Tennessee and some other schools caught up in academic scandals, Georgia would face no NCAA violations. The NCAA, an athletic body that usually lets schools determine if its own academic policies were violated, just was not interested in her information. Kemp recalls an NCAA investigator telling her, “We don’t want to hear anything about grades. All we’re interested in are cars, or trips, or things of that sort
She told him she hoped the university did give the athletes cars, since they weren’t getting an education.
Vince Dooley, at the time the Bulldogs’ coach and athletic director, testified that athletes were admitted with SAT scores of less than 650 out of a possible 1,600. “In order to be, we think, reasonably competitive, we thought that leeway was necessary,” he said at the time.
By CMR
November 18, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this
We here at UGA are thankful for what Jan did for our institution. Thanks to Jan, the problem was fixed and now we can proudly say that the not only is our football team superior to Tech’s, but our academic integrity as well. We now have Damon Evans and Mark Richt. We win and we graduate our players. We even send multitudes of kids to the NFL. Mark Richt oversees academic performance with diligence. Yes,THANK YOU JAN. You deserve great credit for the superiority we have on the field and in the classroom over that bunch of academic frauds at that trade school on North Avenue.
By hey CMR
November 18, 2005 12:03 PM | Link to this
You’re forgetting about the BASKETBALL 101 test. UGA’s academic integrity from a student athlete perspective is still a joke and has been for over a quarter of a century.
By CMR
November 18, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this
No more Dooley. No more Donnan,no more Harrick. Can you say Evans, Richt, and Felton. Instead of whining and scapegoating, UGA fixed their problems.
By dave
November 18, 2005 12:12 PM | Link to this
someone better step up real soon for damage control cause the wheels are coming off….that is one big a** snowball headed our way…..first the extension to pay an undeserving coach ONE MILLION DOLLARS/yr, then braine dedending it by saying it’s the best we can do and get used to it….then probation which basically blows all the excuses (which held no water in the first place) right out of the water and it turns out GT doesn’t even follow the tough academic standards that were supposedly holding it back…..and what happens to that questionable “bowls in a row” record?…..now braine defends it all by saying at least he knows feels good because they’ve all done a very good job…..what planet does he live on?……the rule of unintended consequences is taking hold and these subsequent secondary explosions have been well documented at length on these boards, recruiting, tenuta’s status, etc…..and the worst part is that hewitt has always linked his job at GT with braine and i’m wondering what he’s thinking as the athletic dept crumbles around him and braine’s future at GT is nearing an end, either with his planned retirement or sooner if any more surprises come this way….i’m actually now looking forward to a little football this weekend, even if it is against miami
By Nate
November 18, 2005 12:30 PM | Link to this
Is anyone really surprised at all of this? Afterall, I painfully remember the incompetency of GT administration from my stay there. Remember the blithering incompetance of the Bursar’s and Registrar’s offices? Or for a really good time think about how helpful, accurate, and timely the Parking Office is?
By F******U Dave Braine
November 18, 2005 12:50 PM | Link to this
CMR
If you are going to talk about academics….Please learn english yourself “we can proudly say that the not only is our football team superior to Tech’s”
You Moron get back on your tractor
By realist
November 18, 2005 01:01 PM | Link to this
Nate:
You are so right. I was recalling today that the same buffons must still occupy the same positions they held in ‘84-88 when my schedule was dropped 12 quarters in a row because my financial aid check consistently arrived about two weeks after registration!
Dave Braine must go. He’s grown the overall athletic program and for this he should be congratulated. But he clearly is not a detail man and his public relations skills are appalling.
By CMR
November 18, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this
Too bad your academic people don’t pay such close attention to detail as FU Dave Braine does. But by the way FU Dave Braine, thanks for once again reinforcing the fact that when techmites have no leg left to stand on they resort to the strategy of the ignorant. Name calling only proves your lack of intellect. Oh well. Just another Tech poser that can’t take it like a man.
By ellenwin
November 18, 2005 01:33 PM | Link to this
The real tragedy here is the fact that because of people not doing their jobs, young men, who’s only crime was to TRUST the advisors to keep them on task, are being mad the sacrificial lambs. All they wanted to do was give their all for a school they loved, the students and alumni that adored them, and memories they had of teamwork, commraderie and glory days that are now ripped from Tech’s history. They have done NOTHING to deserve the mockery of their VALID accomplishments. Dr. Cough, Mr. Braine…they trusted you…WE TRUSTED YOU. These athletes are the real victims…Shame on you!
By Greg
November 18, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this
Well, with the brand and severity of punishments being levied, I won’t be expecting any other schools to come forward with self-discovered rules violations any time soon, which is a shame. The NCAA is making a mistake. The probation and loss of scholarships might be appropriate, but wiping years out of the record books? That’s a bit much.
By SG
November 18, 2005 02:52 PM | Link to this
Jeff, congratulations on another funny article. As usual the truth gets left out in order to sell papers. Despite the vocal minority which your paper focuses on, the majority of Tech fans are pleased that Gailey was given the extension. Mark my words, in these last two games he will prove what kind of coach he is and why he is the right man for Tech football.
By Jim
November 18, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this
As a 1960 Tech graduate, I never thought I would see the day when I would be totally ashamed of our athletic program. This week’s event would make good material for the old Rowan and Martin Laugh-In “that was the week that was” routine. Braine should be sacked, and he should fire Gailey before he leaves.
By Wise
November 18, 2005 03:26 PM | Link to this
Dave: Don’t worry about these ########. Tech will ride the strom and smile through the tornadoes and earthquakes. Critics, GO TO HELL and STAY THERE. You are all haters and devils.
By dave
November 18, 2005 03:31 PM | Link to this
jeff excellent and funny article….keep em coming…..i’m not sure whether those that support chan are in the majority or minority as tech fans tend to be rather passive, but i assume the outcome of the next two games will make one of the groups that much more vocal, we’ll see…..SG, make sure you’re around after the next two games……i’ll be the first to congratulate chan if GT wins and i will actually be pulling for the jackets even though i’m vocal about chan’s need to leave, majority opinion or not, but a W ain’t gonna happen…
By RevIke
November 18, 2005 03:34 PM | Link to this
Wise are you Pat Robertson?
By dave
November 18, 2005 03:37 PM | Link to this
wise, i must be doing something right for you to respond to my post despite my falling into the camp of some of the critics…..it’s because i’m a huge fan of GT, it’s academics and it’s athletics and i’m not a chan fan….and i’m worried about what’s happened this past week….a complete meltdown
By Ga_Tech_92
November 18, 2005 03:41 PM | Link to this
CMR you’re pretty brutal, a real tough guy. Doesn’t UGA have a blog or aren’t there enough fans to keep one active? You’re negative comments aren’t contributing to this discussion in the least and aren’t welcomed. If you want me to get nasty with you, just keep it up. I can go to UGA blogs and troll too if you would like. Get a life.
By CMR
November 18, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this
Have at it GaTech92. It would be just antoher smack down. Maybe along the lines of 51-7.
By CMR
November 18, 2005 04:02 PM | Link to this
Have at it GaTech92. It would be just another smack down. Maybe along the lines of 51-7.
By Wise
November 18, 2005 04:04 PM | Link to this
Rev. Ike! His Brother…
By Rev.Ike
November 18, 2005 04:13 PM | Link to this
Finally someone with a sense of humor.
By John
November 18, 2005 04:21 PM | Link to this
MIAMI IS GOING TO TROUNCE US! ON NATIONAL TV TO BOOT! No doubt they will talk about Braine’s comments and the NCAA probation throughout the broadcast. Add that to the trouncing and we will be the laughing stock of the entire nation.
By DrT.
November 18, 2005 04:34 PM | Link to this
John, I just hope that to top it off Chan doesn’t play Houston. Can you imagine that added to the other issues? We become a soap opera.
By Buzzinoff
November 18, 2005 04:47 PM | Link to this
CMR….sounds familar….isn’t that something that is used to get the rust stains out of toilets?
BTW, you only have to hit “POST” once.
By GT77
November 18, 2005 04:49 PM | Link to this
Where is Pepper Rodgers now that we need him?
By Bryan G.
November 18, 2005 05:27 PM | Link to this
I still love it. Can’t wait until UGA wins their 12th in a row against you guys since your double secret probation wins don’t count now. Look at it this way, though, guys: the 1998 ACC title you guys have to give up…well, let’s be honest, you never really won the ACC that year anyway since you lost to FSU.
By Jacket Hope
November 18, 2005 05:44 PM | Link to this
Thanks Jeff for writing the truth. Seems like of the AJC writers who write about Tech are too afraid to write the truth because it may endanger their relationship with Gailey or other coaches. So I like the AJC is able to write the truth. Keep writing until change occurs!
By GTVegas
November 18, 2005 06:19 PM | Link to this
Bryon G - They don’t count as wins for GT in the historical stats, but they still count as LOSSES for UGA, if anybody really cares.
By Jim
November 18, 2005 06:20 PM | Link to this
At age 81 and a three-time Tech graduate during the nineteen forties, I’m still a season ticket holder and love to watch Tech football, home or away.
The tragedy taking place today with Georgia Tech athletics is appalling. I had more faith in the Administration. I hope they will ignore much of the senseless blog being tossed out by numerous senseless people; yet, I pray the Administration will do something quickly to restore the respect that Georgia Tech deserves.
I doubt that Dr. Clough reads columns like this, but perhaps someone will pass along my thoughts.
By Piper
November 18, 2005 06:22 PM | Link to this
Dave Braine should be fired! It seems apparant that he is going to retire soon, but with the “Lack of Institutional Control” probation penalty, which is the modern day equavelant to the death penalty, Clough needs to make a statement and fire him. If Clough does not do this, alumni should call for his resignation as well. Tech needs to fight the probation with everything they can muster and then restore honor to the program. Tech needs to bring in someone like Bill Curry to be AD so he can clean house and rebuild this great football legacy!
By Jim D**
November 18, 2005 06:35 PM | Link to this
At age 81 and a three time graduate of Georgia Tech back in the forties, I’m deeply saddened by all the recent publicity involving Tech athletics.
Although an SEC pole vault champion, my love is football, and as a season ticket holder I still attend every game I can, home or away.
I trust the Administration will ignore much of the senseless blog being aired by senseless people; yet, I pray the Administration will act quickly to restore the good reputation that Georgia Tech deserves.
By Tech Fan
November 18, 2005 10:06 PM | Link to this
Dave Braine is a moron. Get out of Tech, you’re not wanted!
By chisolm
November 18, 2005 10:28 PM | Link to this
no uga has not fixed its problems, we have an AD that can not speak in complete sentences!the only reason he is AD is to solicit money from NFL players!
By Hunk Erdown
November 18, 2005 11:32 PM | Link to this
Braine’s statement when he announced the extension of Chan’s contract did more to lose recruits for Tech than any sanctions the NCAA could ever impose.
I’m a Dawg fan through and through, but it is flat out embarrassing that he would publicly acknowledge, whether he beleived it or not, that Tech’s program will never be more than average.
I for one would like to see the rivalry between Tech and UGA be competitive and a “toss up” every year. Braine just fired up the boilers that sent Tech’s program into the same path of iceburgs that the Titanic Captain arrogantly slammed in to.
For an institution that has been held in distinction for its “superior” intellect compared to us poor commomers with only a degree from UGA to suffer through life with, having Braine as anything but a janitor in your program has set you back more than you will ever imagine. I’m sorry for that, because the tradition of competition between the two schools has been tarnished in a way that will suffer damage for many years to come. I have actually enjoyed the arrogance of the (I hope) minority of posters here, and it has been fun to be perceived as the “bad boys” in the state rivalry, but now you are just cheaters and never to be more than average.
Clean up your act Tech! Start by firing the embiciles that speak for your program.