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Two old rivals show the value of one measly point


Mark Bradley

Athens — They’d met 108 times before, and you’d have sworn the old enemies could do nothing to top the thrills and spills that had come before. From Michael Johnson jumping over Horace Willis to Jasper Sanks being stuffed on the goal line, the Deep South’s oldest rivalry had generated pretty near everything under the sun and moon — fire hoses included.

But the Georgia-Auburn series, splendid as it has been, has never had a better game than this. Meeting No. 109 began pregnant with the usual meaning — the Bulldogs could clinch the SEC East; the Tigers could stay alive in the SEC West — and it ended with the wildest finish imaginable. Indeed, the signature play of No. 109 beggared all belief: A fourth-down pass became a game-winning touchdown…and then it became something else.

Fourth-and-10, Georgia needing one more stop to crown itself champion of its division. Brandon Cox found Devin Aromashodu flashing over the middle, and this looked for all the world to be Auburn’s version of 70X Takeoff, the famous play that became the winning Georgia touchdown on fourth-and-14 that cold day on the Plains three Novembers ago. Aromashodu seemed sure to score, but Paul Oliver, hoping against hope, trailed the play and punched at the ball, and sure enough it popped free.

But Auburn’s Courtney Taylor fell on the fumble in the end zone. Touchdown, yes? Touchdown, no. Because the offense can’t advance a fourth-down fumble — it can only recover one — the ball was placed on the Georgia 3 with 1:52 remaining. Three Tiger runs gained nothing, but in a weird way Auburn was better served killing the clock before John Vaughn kicked the gamer at 0:06. Auburn won by the skinniest of points, but sometimes a point weighs a ton.

For some reason, a one-point margin seemed written on the autumn wind. In the first 108 convocations, Auburn had outscored Georgia 1,619 to 1,618. Lo and behold, the Tigers led No. 109 by a point after one half, a point after three quarters. Then Thomas Brown swept right to put Georgia ahead 26-21, and the Bulldogs wanted (and needed) to go for two. But some members of Georgia’s kicking team had dashed on the field, and the Bulldogs were called for delay of game before they could sort things out. (Then, for good measure, they were called for another.) Georgia wound up kicking for one and will forever rue the point it didn’t get.

Auburn would retake the lead on Karibi Dede’s return of Brannan Southerland’s fumble inside the final 10 minutes. Georgia would nose back ahead on Brandon Coutu’s field goal with 3:25 left, and soon the Tigers faced fourth-and-10 at their 35 and the Bulldogs were one snap from the Georgia Dome. But, just as the Michael Johnson catch in 2002 changed the outcome of both divisions, Cox hit Aromashodu and the identity of the SEC East winner remains in doubt, at least until Georgia beats Kentucky next Saturday.

Yes, Georgia was unlucky to lose by a skinny point, but the Bulldogs, truth to tell, never seemed to have a hold on this game. Auburn was clearly the stronger side — Kenny Irons, looking like a latter-day Bo Jackson, rushed for 179 yards — and it became a question of whether Georgia’s finesse could trump power. In the end, finesse failed. The Bulldogs wound up kicking three field goals, and Auburn needed only the one at the end.

Georgia can and surely will still win the East, but even that knowledge came as cold comfort this frenzied night. For the second game running, the Bulldogs had come up empty in a big-time test. They’ll fall out of the Top 10, and as Saturday night became Sunday morning they had to be chastened by this realization: If the Evil Genius Spurrier hadn’t beaten the Hated Gators for them, the Bulldogs would have been eliminated. No fire hoses were needed to douse this Georgia party.

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By Billdawg

November 13, 2005 12:45 AM | Link to this

Can Richt just not win a game that means anything?? Why give the ball to a guy to was just flagged for holding and cost you possibly the play of the game. For Gods sake, McClendon does not catch a pass that often that often anyway…….

By Brian

November 13, 2005 12:48 AM | Link to this

**The dawgs didn’t deserve to win. 4th and 10 and you allow a 60 yard pass? Incredible. Not only that, but Richt playing for the field goal instead of the touchdown and just running the ball. He could take a lesson from Dick Vermiel.

Not only that, after they called that touchdown back and put it on the 3 yard line, even I could see that the dogs just needed to let them score so they would have almost 2 minutes left to try and get a touchdown. As it was, Auburn just ran the clock out.

A combination of the usual mistakes and the normal bad coaching.**

By XDawg

November 13, 2005 12:49 AM | Link to this

I have reached the nadir of embarrassment. We have two weeks to think about this game and it looks like we took a two week vacation. Florida gets two weeks and reworks their entire offense. We regressed to PeeWee League football. How can you argue the officials into taking away any chance that you might have of winning the game just so that you can make sure they get the ruling right? How can you take two delay of game penalties on an extra-point that you need to turn into a 2 point conversion? The most telling moments of the game? Georgia has a third and 10 with their fifth year senior quarterback that is lauded for his leadership and we run the ball up the middle to play for yet another field goal so that we can have a two point lead. Auburn has 4th and 10 with their red-shirt sophomore quarterback and he attempts a 30 yard skinny post into what should’ve been two-deep zone coverage. Mark Richt cannot manage a game. It is far beyond needing an offensive coordinator. We have to double the production of the other team to even have a shot. I have always defended Mark as a head coach and insisted that all he needs is an offensive coordinator. I was wrong. This ranks up there with the 2001 Auburn debacle. How many opportunities do you get to win championships? How many times do recruits have to watch us get outcoached before they decide to attend a school that gives them the opportunity to win? I listened to the coach’s post-game analysis and he seems to have no sense of his failures. I cannot fault a man for not being good. I can fault him for not improving. How many Georgia teams under Richt have been better at the end of the year than at the beginning? Kentucky has improved. We had better strap it on or we will collapse to 7-4. Give it to Spurrier. The man can coach. But let’s not kid ourselves anymore. Losing I can accept. Losing because of our own foolishness is hard to stomach. It is time for a major shake-up at UGA. Or maybe I should just turn in my diploma and start pulling for Darth Visor.

By rickyjeepers

November 13, 2005 12:55 AM | Link to this

CHOKE!!!! Clock frickin management! Playing not to lose. Major big time Choke!!!

By Bill Helvig

November 13, 2005 12:59 AM | Link to this

Come on Mark. Respond to your last collumn about Richt being the cat’s meow of the SEC. You just can’t bring youself to praise Auburn for beating Georgia in Athens. Just Da*n

By This gets old

November 13, 2005 01:00 AM | Link to this

In this conference if you don’t run the football efficiently then “baby you gone lose” Auburn was clearly more physical and it showed.

The last two games the opponent has taken the opening kick and forced it down our throats and pushed it out the other way. God could you imagine what a Miami or Texas would do to UGA?

By PJ

November 13, 2005 01:00 AM | Link to this

Hey Bradley…how about re-writing your idiotic article about UGA being the flagship program in the SEC?…I’d say that honor goes to the Tigers of Auburn…but you did a great job of kissing the arse of the Dawg nation

By Bill Helvig

November 13, 2005 01:05 AM | Link to this

Georgia fans: Auburn won. Georgia lost. It was a well played game. Remember the 5 overtime game at Auburn? This was one of those games. Get over it. If you get rid of your coach you will not be better off. It was a great game. You just happened to be at the losing end of this one.

By RC

November 13, 2005 01:08 AM | Link to this

Auburn and SC are the up and coming teams in the SEC, which at this moment, is a joke. I am a huge UGA fan and SEC fan, but it’s true. I’m extremely dissapointed with the SEC. We have to back door in the title game? With UF and UT down, and UGA down next year, ole Spurrier has everbody where he wants ‘em!!!!

By HobNailBoot

November 13, 2005 01:41 AM | Link to this

It doesn’t appear that Coach Martinez and the defensive coaches analyzed Auburn’s game films of their past 3 or 4 games very closely. They have been running and running some more (which opens up some pretty good passing lanes). Kenny Irons got 208 yards against LSU. They didn’t even use the guy that got 180 against Kentucky (someone named Tristan). Allowing them to run like they did sealed our fate. I can take some offensive mistakes; but porous defense is the worst omen a team can have.

By Pukeface

November 13, 2005 01:41 AM | Link to this

Playing for the field goal at the end was bush-league loser mentality. But Richt didn’t fumble on the 15 and didn’t give up a $&@%-ing 60-yard pass on 4th and $^@%!@^ 10.

Overall, this game was garbage. A waste of talent that makes me want to take up antiquing on Saturdays. If, IF we beat Kensucky, we get to try to be a two-loss “Champion” of the SEC. It’ll be fantastic to line it up against the South Florida Bulls in the Atlanta Sugar Bowl.

At least we’re not Tennessee. That’s all I can say for this putrid collapse. Jean Claude Van de Velde, you’ve got nothing on these guys.

By Chuckles

November 13, 2005 01:51 AM | Link to this

Please come back Mr. Van Gorder! We need need someone calling the defensive plays that has a clue. (Playing it bunched on 4th and freaking 10?) Oh, if you know a good offensive play caller, bring him with you! Same old Georgia…losing 2 out of 3 to Tenn, Fla & Auburn is guaranteed. Soon we’ll be adding Carolina to that list!

By Bill Orr

November 13, 2005 02:23 AM | Link to this

Georgia has over the years had as many good athletes as any other division 1 school. Yet they still continue to tease and haunt us with there mediocrity. Then for the coach to sugar coat a loss and say “nice try men” makes me want to vomit! Coach Richt, the old saying that nice guys finish last is true. Georgia is not paying you 1.7 million a year to be a nice guy and have a winning percentage of .700. You are paid that money at Georgia because we expect to win championships. I prey someday one of our big paying boosters will ask Damon Evans the question “You want me to give you how much money so that we can field a team that somehow finds a way to back into championships?” Just what is the expectation for the football team at Georgia? Maybe we expect to much. Maybe some of our big paying donors need to ask Damon and Mark Richt that question the next time they ask for a donation.

By D-man

November 13, 2005 02:25 AM | Link to this

I hate to pile on but I must. This game was disgusting. I CANNOT believe that MR allowed our team to create a goal line stand with seconds ticking off the clock and all Auburn having to do is kick a field goal to win the game. Hey MR..GET A CLUE! I was shouting at the tv..”let them score, let them score!” At least then, we would have had some kind of a chance to come back with 1:52 left and one time out. But dumba$$ MR went ahead and allowed his team to fight for the feet to keep Auburn out of the endzone. What a joke. And how much does MR get paid to make these stupid choices? MIllions?? Are you kidding? WHAT A JOKE. I am beyond p**. MR..HIRE AN O.C. (cant you see what a difference it made for Auburn?) 4th and 10?? And we gave up 62 yards with the game on the line?? Are you kidding? What a nightmare. Way to go…idiot. And Shockley was an interception waiting to happen in the 4th quarter. Our only saving grace was the Auburn DBs couldnt catch. (Hey, Shockley, I know you’ve been away from the game for two weeks but..our WRs were the ones with the RED jerseys…not the white! Geeeeez. Heck, I hope Kentucky kicks our butt and we miss the SEC Championship..maybe only then will an O.C. show up at UGA.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 02:31 AM | Link to this

How often do you see Mark Richt put a complete team on the field? Hmmmm, I vaguely remember an LSU game 2 years ago where UGA played a disciplined well coached game, but that’s about it. The last 2 games have really exposed Richt as a mediocre grade coach. AU was well prepared and it showed. On the other sideline, Richt once again proved he could not adjust well during game situations and made the usually mental coaching mistakes we’re all accustomed to seeing from the Richt era UGA football team. Coach, play to WIN, stop blowing big games due to coaching meltdowns, i.e, 2 delay of game penalties blowing an opportunity for 2 point conversion, and get some fire in your program!

Wow, our linebackers have really been exposed.

By Arpiem

November 13, 2005 02:46 AM | Link to this

So, what else is there to say? Many of us have been saying it for years. MR doesn’t have a clue concerning play calling and game management. He also harbors considerable infatuation with field goals. Anyone with half a brain understood that playing for the field goal to go up by two points was a formula for failure. I remember walking out of the Music City bowl when we punted with about 1:15 left, with no time-outs. Defense? Besides WM not having a clue about defense, there’s a severe lack of training in fundamentals. Finger tackling? I guess that’s what they teach at the equestrian facility. The defense looked baffled. I thought it would be hard to improve on stupidity after the Florida game, but somehow MR pulled it off.

By bigpic

November 13, 2005 02:48 AM | Link to this

First of all, Mark Richt is the reason Georgia has become competitive for the SEC championship almost every year, even though he’s still a relatively young head coach. You can’t doubt his ability as a leader, a figurehead, a motivator and to recruit. However, it is because of Mark Richt and all of his strengths that Georgia has all the right pieces to play for a national championship, yet hasn’t. Georgia has had everything it takes to play for a national championship, mainly the athletes, yet the Dogs have managed to lose just a few games under Richt that have kept them out. And in examining those losses (save the SEC championship loss to LSU), the blame in almost each one solely falls on Richt in the form of inexplicably bad clock management and play calling. When Richt can get over that hump, perhaps by forgetting his ACC finesse and taking a note from Auburn’s consistently simple and stellar game-planning the last two years, Georgia will win every game it plays and get to the national championship.

By D-man

November 13, 2005 02:56 AM | Link to this

Dont forget, there were a heck of alot of Blue Chip uncommited recruits at this game…mmmmm, I wonder who they would want to play for more…GA? Or AUBURN???

By Elizabeth

November 13, 2005 03:09 AM | Link to this

What a wonderful, beautiful game! Beating the bullpuppies in the final seconds made it even sweeter. And now I get to read all the lambasting of the puppie’s coach. Thank you for making my weekend! WAR EAGLE!

By jgs

November 13, 2005 03:10 AM | Link to this

Ha, AU already stacks half their team with Georgia HS kids, so I’m sure they will rack up even more after this meltdown. So, AU has won 2 in a row with the same Georgia HS talent that UGA has. Now tell me how important good coaching is and if Mark Richt makes the grade.

By chaunceb

November 13, 2005 05:59 AM | Link to this

Now let’s recap…and there you have it, final score Dawgs 33 Tigers 17…Here’s the deal: even with our sloppy game management and anemic run defense, we could/shoulda won going away. Two of their second half scores were luck bags that came off turnovers, and we might have easily been up by two TDs midway into the 4th. But we hung in there by golly and made sure that we finished getting drilled. Came home from our early holiday shopping with a “tub of gifts” for Tuberville. That 63 yard 4th and 10 was a complete and total farce. Postgame analysis: five out of six times we play this one, we take them by two touchdowns or more. Ditto the other analysts: aside from better game management, we need an offensive coordinator and a few good linebacker recruits.

By Ralph

November 13, 2005 07:35 AM | Link to this

Man, even the Yellow Jackets can beat Auburn.

By brewdawg

November 13, 2005 07:35 AM | Link to this

Am i disgusted? Hell yes i am. Do i think that MR haters are morons- hell yes i do. Why is it MRs fault that Thomas Flowers fumbles or that our defense can’t stop a 4th and 10? I thought you people had a problem with his play-calling. Neither of those plays are on him. Bottom line- UGA is a disappointment this year at 7-2, under Goff and Donnan, 7-2 was a unprecedented year.

By peter Lomonte

November 13, 2005 07:55 AM | Link to this

So much for UGa being the new “standard bearer” of SEC football. So much for the vaunted SEC Least being the toughest division in college football. Hey dude, get a clue. The West has won 4 of the past 6 SEC titles. The East big three is 2-4 vs the big three of the West. You guys in Georgia think the SEC stops around Tuscalooser. The sheer arrogance and bias of the SEC East media is beyond compare.

By 58Dawg

November 13, 2005 08:00 AM | Link to this

When do the dawg fans show up? 10 wins per year in the SEC and you want to replace the coach? We have a coach that loses his Defensive Coordinator and tons of talent to the NFL,his starting QB for a game and half,two future NFL defensive lineman to injuries and he still makes it to the SEC Championship game. I don’t care how we get their, no body gave us a chance of making it anyway and that was before the injuries started to hit us.

By Larry

November 13, 2005 08:02 AM | Link to this

Wow!

I’m no longer regrettably suspicious, I am convinced—Mark Richt and his coaching staff are being out coached by better coaches and outplayed by less talent.

Does anyone here believe that Florida, Auburn, South Carolina and Arkansas have more talent than Georgia? Florida and Auburn won and SC & Arkansas nearly won.

They are unprepared for a team’s strength, undisciplined, and making at lot of mental mistakes for the 9th game of the season. This coupled with bizarre situational play calling is deflating.

Could you imagine this Bulldog team under the guidance of Steve Spurrier, Tommy Tubberville, Pete Carroll or Charlie Weis?

Georgia looks a lot like the teams under Golf. A ton of superior athletes running around without a clue what to do and when to do it.

The state Georgia will always supply enough players to win 8 games. A decent coach will win 9 or 10, but a great coach will take a team like this and beat teams like Auburn and Florida.

Mark Richt is not a great coach. I am now convinced so I’ll have to just accept it!

Great guy, average coach!

By Sam Smith

November 13, 2005 08:05 AM | Link to this

WE HAVE LOST EVERY BIG GAME THIS SEASON. WE HAVE SEEN AWFUL PLAY CALLING FROM MR. IF WE DO BEAT KENTUCKY WE WILL LOSE BIG IN THE SEC GAME. LSU IS THE ODDS ON FAVORITE TO GO FOR THE WEST. THEIR DEFENSE IS BETTER THAN AUBURN’S. WASTE OF A SEASON.

By Sam Smith

November 13, 2005 08:12 AM | Link to this

GOING TO THE SEC GAME MEANS NOTHING NOW IF YOU CAN’T WIN THE BIG GAMES. REMEMBER IT IS CALLED THE ( CHAMPIONSHIP GAME). TO THINK WE PLAN TO PLAY COLORODO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

By Top Dawg

November 13, 2005 08:15 AM | Link to this

To Bill Helvig: Yes, Georgia lost, and Auburn won. But, it was NOT a well played game, at least as far as the Dawgs are concerned. They played terribly on defense. The defensive line really never showed up. That’s the reason we lost, not bad play calling, not the ref’s call on Auburn’s last fumble, but just poor, poor defense, including the inability to tackle. Fundamentals, guys.

By 58Dawg

November 13, 2005 08:48 AM | Link to this

We will beat LSU in the Championship game and everyone will praise MR again.

Auburn has the best Offense in the SEC and a one of the top defenses in the country, yet we still could’ve, should’ve beat them.

As far as coaches go, if Auburn had listened to some of their fans they would have fired Tommy T just before he took them to a 13-0 season. If Texas had listened to some of their fans would they now be what they are? If Couch Richt is so bad then how does he have an 800 winning %,keeps winning 10 games per year,has one of the best if not “the best” winning records on the road and has won a SEC Championship. He has also won all of his bowl games except his 1st and against top teams in the country. The Dawgs will come together and UGA will win a National Championship soon.

By D-man

November 13, 2005 08:49 AM | Link to this

YES WE DID LOSE BECAUSE OF BAD PLAY CALLING! And yes, a lack of play, blunders and mistakes helped us lose the game as well. BUT..when your last game choice as a coach is to ALLOW the remaining time to tick, tick off the clock, leaving you with ONLY :06 to make something happen..THIS IS WHAT WE MEAN WHEN WE SAY MR CANT MANAGE A CLOCK!!! Get it through your heads people…WE HAD 1:52 REMAINING IN THE GAME WITH ONE TIMEOUT..ALLOW AUBURN TO SCORE A TD IMMEDIATELY AND THEN TRY TO WIN ON THE NEXT POSSESSION. ANY GOOD COACH SHOULD HAVE A DECENT 2 MINUTE DRILL..FEW HAVE DECENT :06 DRILLS..IN THE PLAYBOOK. MR GAVE US NO CHANCE TO WIN WHEN HE DECIDED TO DEFEND THE GOALLINE WITH 1:52 LEFT…GET AN O.C. WE NEED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By War Eagle

November 13, 2005 09:20 AM | Link to this

First, great game on both sides of the ball, Auburn was the best team making key plays and 3rd down conversions.Second, Auburn family knows your feelings, remember 4th goal on the 19 yard line. Greene to Johnson TD, SEC East(2003). This one play caused Coach Tuberville to almost lose his job, thank goodness, the President lost his job instead.This is a great rivalry. Auburn loves winning especially on the road, but our game is next week against the BCS ????champion Bammer, is the BIG one. Good game last night, your coach is a good one,just has a hard time with Fkorida and Auburn…

By Kenny

November 13, 2005 09:30 AM | Link to this

Richt’s soon going to be on the hot seat. His sideline game management skills continue to be costly. How can you not let the special team know you’re going for two? Richt can’t win the big game or break the barriers/curses of losing to Auburn at home and to Florida. The Dog Nation won’t stand for it much longer. Win all you want but lose to Florida and Auburn all the time and you’ve got an unhappy bunch. I suspect the Dogs will be flat next Saturday and lose. I suspect the crowd will be down. Even if they win, they will probably lose to Tech, LSU and the bowl game they get. What’s that 8-5? It still stings that even when they won the SEC they lost to Florida. No one talks about it but it sticks in the back of the mind. What kind of defense were they running on 4th and 10? It looked like the linemen didn’t even rush, that they backed up into some weird coverage. It looked like they had an open lane to the QB? And how can Richt explain all the big plays of over 30 yards? I remember Alabama beating GA in Athens on a long drive in the waning seconds. Now we’ve been “Lindsay Scott-ed” by Auburn. Richt is getting by on being a “good guy.” He’s not the best coach. Spurrier lurks and our schedule looks like the dogs will be lucky to win 6 next year.

By David

November 13, 2005 09:39 AM | Link to this

chanceb, what the hell are you smoking? UGA would beat AU by two or more touchdowns five out of six games? Geez, what an idiotic comment to make. Homer. Of course, UGA could have won this game, but don’t forget that AU also blew a couple of chances with dropped interceptions. It goes both ways.

It’s understandable being upset after a tough loss, but I think most of you guys are being way too hard on your coach. It’s pretty much a lock you’ll be playing for the SEC Championship. 10 other teams can’t say that.

War Eagle!

By WallyButts

November 13, 2005 09:41 AM | Link to this

MR NEEDS TO GO! Anyone who can make a team play like they did with that much talent needs to go. I have heard all the excuses about MR long enough. Georgia under his management is at best mediocre, unable to win against decent teams.

MR coaches 1st tier players into a 3rd tier football teams. It will not matter how good our recruiting is as long as MR is here.

Sorry folks, but the truth will set you free.

By Ice Dog

November 13, 2005 09:48 AM | Link to this

How draining. I still say that our weak schedule early in the year is the primary cause of trouble as opposed to Richt - although I must admit some thing there need to change. Our fans and the Atlanta media believe we have all this great talent and we beat up on the Boise States and North South East and West Louisiana. Then when the going gets tough, we implode and wonder why. Throw out the twinkies and the only team with a winning record we have beat this year is South Carolina - and if we played them tomorrow, who do you think would win. As some one pointed out - even the Insects from the Institute have beaten Auburn the last two times they played - this year at Jordan-Hare.

We need more early season challenges to be set up mentally for the tough finish games. Maybe our early schedule with South Carolina will take care of that now - but maybe we will have won our last SEC East title for some time too. An early game against real compeition from out of the SEC would prepare us better mentally.

By AUTIGER

November 13, 2005 09:52 AM | Link to this

Does anyone have the sound bite of Larry Munson’s call when Auburn went 62 yards on forth and 11? I bet it sounds painful.

By Richtfan

November 13, 2005 09:53 AM | Link to this

Okay, enough of the MR bashing. The fact of the matter is the GA offense played well enough to win the game. Yes we settled for FGs in the first half but maybe if the WRs didn’t have 5 drops the first half we would have had a comfortable lead going into the half. Also, if GA scores the TD w/ 3 something minutes left does anyone believe that AU doesn’t score a TD at the end of the game? Tuberville wasn’t trying to punch the ball in the endzone at the end. He was playing for the FG and milking the clock. I for one don’t think the defense could have stopped AU if they had been trying to score. Lets face it. GA does not have “national championship” talent on defense.

By ron

November 13, 2005 09:58 AM | Link to this

what a heartbreaker!! i won’t criticize the players or the coaching staff.although it appears we are backing our way into the sec east. my hats off to TUBERVILLE in the remarkable rebuilding year he’s accomplished- WHO IS RONNIE BROWN/CADILLAC WILLIAMS? the GOOD NEWS IS BAMA got beat,the chant now is SLIDE TIDE,SLIDE. fellow members of the DAWG NATION i have predicted this over a month ago,check the archives.THE DAWG NATION didn’t want to hear this because it was felt that THE DAWGS could beat a high ranked BAMA team in the sec championship therefore the bcs would have to recognize the DAWGS as legitimate contenders for the national title or improve the teams ranking.i’ve always felt sugar is sweeter than roses.THE DAWGS continue to have destiny in their own hands.if LS WHO continue to win the WAR EAGLES & BAMA are on the outside looking in. with the offensive output from AUBURN last night BAMA can look for a thrashing on the PLAINS.WAR EAGLES BEAT BAMA!!!

By T Man

November 13, 2005 10:00 AM | Link to this

Mark, you want to change your definition of UGA as the standard bearer of the SEC? What a joke.

By Ryan

November 13, 2005 10:01 AM | Link to this

GET A CLUE, MORONS!! This is not about CMR. Were mistakes made? Yes. But, this offense put up 30 freakin’ points. 30!!! That should be more than enough to easily win this game. Anybody calling CMR out for this game is crazy. This one is obviously on Coach Martinez and the D.

By SEC East is a joke!

November 13, 2005 10:03 AM | Link to this

Fact: UGA is playing in a weak division of a weak conference.

By ron

November 13, 2005 10:09 AM | Link to this

DO ANYONE WHAT BLOGGER SITES FOR BAMA,THEY HAVE TALKED TRASH ON OUR SITES NOW I WANT TO PAY THEIR BLOGGERS A VISIT AND CHAT ABOUT YESTERDAYS GAME.LET ME KNOW THE ALABAMA PAPERS.INFO WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

By True UGA fan

November 13, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this

i hope we lose the rest of our games so MR gets canned and is seen on the side of the road with a sign saying “will offensive coordinate for food” GA defense you should again be ashamed of yourself. man we really needed pollack and charles grant from the sideline to suit up and show the rest of our defense how to play real GA defense

By Dave

November 13, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this

Well all of you Georgia faithful, once again you’re vaunted Bulldawgs have lost to a superior Auburn team and you cannot understand why. It is very simple; the better team won! I must give kudos to Shockley and Pope; they played a great game. Actually, the whole Georgia team played better than I expected. I was expecting Auburn to win by two to three touchdowns. When you compare like opponents Auburn outscored Georgia 82 to 18. Make that 83 to 18.

Unfortunately, Georgia will probably play LSU in the SEC championship; when we all know that Auburn would be undefeated if only three plays went the other way. Sooner or later Bulldawg faithful will quit reading Georgia biased reporting from AJC et. al. and understand that there are other good teams in the SEC. WAR EAGLE!!!

By WallyButts

November 13, 2005 10:12 AM | Link to this

When UGA wins everybody praises CMR. There is something called accountibity or “the buck stops here.” CMR is THE COACH and is responsible for the results of his coaching. GET A CLUE MORON!

By DishDog

November 13, 2005 10:17 AM | Link to this

Richt Suxs….Bring Back Donnan..he wouldn’t have settled for a field goal…I hope to God this Bible Thumper doesn’t get another raise!

By WallyButts

November 13, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this

I’m glad CMR is a man of “character,” but at this point I would not mind having the wins and a coach with a little less character. Someone who is more animated who’s mood can pump up the team.

Not going so far as selling myself to the devil, just someone like the Evil Genius who shows his feelings. To hell with good character!

By Richtfan

November 13, 2005 10:30 AM | Link to this

Dave, the comparison between like opponents will change when UGA beats GA Tech and then goes on to the SEC CG and beats LSU. While the season has been disappointing with a 4 point loss to UF and a 1 point loss to AU, I fully expect this to happen. What is more important anyway, winning in a blowout against SC or actually winning the games against GT and LSU. What I really hope happens is that LSU stumbles, AU beats Bama, and UGA gets another shot at AU. Auburn played about as well as they can play while UGA did anything but and the game was still about as close as it could be. How can you talk s**t about a 1 point gift victory?

By Unfortunatelyadawgfan

November 13, 2005 10:33 AM | Link to this

I am a recent Dawg fan of only 3 years, and what I see is plain and simple: Richt makes some crucial mistakes, and should be responsible for big game losses like AUBURN.

How about a pass rush on 4th and 10 MR??? You know your DBacks are suspect in pass defense.

How about being aggressive and not playing for Field Goals all the time?? I wish we had a horrible kicker. Maybe it would help our offense!!

And mistakes did HURT, but Auburn made the same mistakes. Irons fumbled in the red zone. The fumble at the end…Auburn was more opportunistic. A

And yes, the typical COSTLY PENALTIES represents a clear lack of discipline.

Georgia has ALL the talent in the world, and losing 2 or 3 GAMES every year in inexcusable. Georgia FANS deserve to be in the title hunt every 3 year, but that’s ALWAYS and afterthought.

If RICHT doesn’t hire an OC, then things won’t improve. But I guess he might have to cough up money out of his pocket, which i’m sure he’s not willing to do!!

By Pete

November 13, 2005 10:36 AM | Link to this

Someone needs to get Richt an XBox and let him learn some play calling/clock management. My 8 year nephew could have done better with the experience he has playing Madden.

By Jah

November 13, 2005 10:38 AM | Link to this

Consider this: It could have been 4th and 61 and Auburn would have STILL converted…

no member of uga’s ‘best backfield in the SEC’ would be on the 4 deep roster at AU…

By rockdawg

November 13, 2005 10:44 AM | Link to this

Three words: fire Willie Martinez

By Richtfan

November 13, 2005 10:48 AM | Link to this

That ridiculous statement doesn’t justify a response.

By desertdawg

November 13, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this

ouch—that one hurt. Great game between two good teams, we came up short but played hard. If the ball bounces out of the end zone we get it at the 20—tough break. Ill take it hard and move on-we play them again in a year. Ill take 10 win years and New Years Day Bowls over Goff and his 7-4 every year. Texas looks like they could beat 1/2 the NFL teams. GO DAWGS !!!

By Rod

November 13, 2005 10:56 AM | Link to this

All you are cracking me up this beautiful Sunday morning. I can’t believe what I’m seeing…MR being blasted on your blogg. Get a clue pup nation…MR has brought your program back. I’m a Tech fan and I see it. You guys need to grow up. MR is a damn good coach, and I’d be proud with him at Tech. How many games have you won during his time at your school? You went to 2 SEC championship games, and won 1 of them. You went to a BCS bowl game. You played in a New Year’s Day bowl last year. You guy are drinking too much moonshine over in Athens. That’s an impressive run you guys are having. I’d LOVE to have him at Tech, but since he came from Florida State it didn’t happen. UGA…be proud of your coach. You get the best athletes in the state, you be Tech, you go to excellant to good bowl games, you have passion and a fine coach. What more could you ask for. If you fire MR you’ll go back to your losing ways. MR brought you guys to the promise land. See you on the Flats. Maybe my team, Tech, will play with a little bit of passion, since our coach will be fired at the end of the game.

By North Avenue Awaits

November 13, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

Hey Puppies you guys just lost to the Cats at the Dawg House. Do you know who BEAT the Cats in thier house? Do you need a hint? Well I guess that game will put the National Championship & Heisman on the Shelf for the year.

By PeachBowlCommittee

November 13, 2005 10:59 AM | Link to this

Georgia will probably squeak by Kentucky and then get run over by LSU in the dome. As a member of the Peach Bowl Committee here is my proposal to the Dawgs. Stick around in the Atlanta area after the SEC championship and we’ll set you up with a Boise State rematch in the Peach. They think they’ve got your number now. It’s about a month between games so the bottom feeders on the team can stay at Woodruff Park and catch up with the ex-alum. The top feeders can probably land a seasonal job at the acquarium parking cars and selling fries. According to my contact at UGA both groups would receive up to 15 credit hours for these activities. Go Dawgs!!!

By Bozo

November 13, 2005 10:59 AM | Link to this

There were many reasons the Dawgs lost this game. Turnovers, poor clock management, the 4th and 10 play. However I would like someone to respond to 2 things I feel were huge. The coaching staff showed they did not learn from the Fla. game. 4th and 10 they bring no pressure and drop back in a zone. Just like Leak let the QB stand back there unmolested and pick us apart. Next was the offensive pass interference call on Pope late. ESPN even replayed that one twice trying to figure out what the ref was looking at. 1st and 25 is tough to over come anytime. If the Dawgs punch it in instead of settling for 3, more time off the clock and the outcome may have been different. One of the worst calls in the history of fottball.

By desertdawg

November 13, 2005 11:00 AM | Link to this

amen Rod

By Aubie

November 13, 2005 11:11 AM | Link to this

The holding call on Pope was because he was a receiver and locked up with the defender, that is by definition a penalty. It was a good call.

By Richtfan

November 13, 2005 11:14 AM | Link to this

He wasn’t “locked up” on the defender. The defender was holding him and he was pushing back. It wasn’t a penalty. It should have been a no-call.

By Bryan

November 13, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this

Georgia has no killer instinct and they are completely undisciplined. Sloppy play, dropped TD’s, penalties, extremely poor play calling, etc. Who gives up a 62 yard play on 4th and 10? A poorly coached and prepared team is the answer. Can anyone confirm the serving of milk and cookies after the game?

Being out coached is a hard pill to swallow in any event, but two weeks in a row is ridiculous. A Spurrier coached UGA wins by 14.

By Aubie

November 13, 2005 11:18 AM | Link to this

It was a great call. Go buy some peaches.

By Richtfan

November 13, 2005 11:20 AM | Link to this

I’ll go buy some peaches while you go cow-tipping.

By Rod

November 13, 2005 11:25 AM | Link to this

As a Tech fan I can’t believe what I’m saying…GET OFF MR. COACHES COACH AND PLAYERS PLAY. It’s not MR fault that you got burned on a 4 and forever play. The PLAYERS on the 8th best defense in the COUNTRY need to step up and make a play. What’s you motto: FINISH THE DRILL??, or something like that.

By David

November 13, 2005 11:33 AM | Link to this

Rod, agree with your post. All of these UGA fans calling for MR’s head… Man, I’d LOVE to see him move on to FSU. How quickly they forget who was there right before him.

By spud

November 13, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

look what has happened at auburn since tommy tuberville hired oc al borgus they are a much improved offence when you lose your entire backfield to the nfl and continue to play like they do it says a lot about what direction their program is heading,MR YOU DSEPERATELY NEED A OC THIS PROGRAM WILL NOT BE SUCESSFUL UNTIL YOU DO TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF OF YOURSELF GIVE THIS TALENTED OFFENSE A CHANCE TO BE BETTER, also fire willie martinez

By Xdawg70

November 13, 2005 11:40 AM | Link to this

Interesting that the probable SEC East champion will go to Atlanta not having beaten an SEC oppoment with a winning record except - South Carolina.

By AUtiger

November 13, 2005 11:54 AM | Link to this

Hey UGA fans..get over it! You lost! I went to the game and had some respect for Georgia. But realized you guys are a bunch of cry babies!! You guys were cussing at us when you had the LEAD. Do you really think your football team is that good? Your not, in fact your the most OVERRATED TEAM IN THE COUNTRY.

What happens when Richt goes to FSU, that’s right, when Bobby retires that’s where he is going. Then UGA will be back to normal, losing 4-5 games a year just like the they used to.

Kenny Irons ran for 180 yards against the almighty Georgia D. What can you say about that??

Enjoy your free trip to the Georgia dome, because you are not the best team in the SEC. You lucky to be there!! HAHAHA

By GW

November 13, 2005 12:19 PM | Link to this

Where’s BVG? Against Kentucky please win the toss and take the ball first and kidnap their tailback Rafael Little. Maybe then we can win 56-54. I’m afraid the team and fans will be flatter than a flitter.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this

It’s very simple, and I’ll tell you why. South Carolina has less talent than GA and will end up the season with the same win/loss record. AU has half their squad stacked with Georgia HS kids and has beat UGA 2 in a row. Talent is not the issue. Richt is the issue. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. If you really follow UGA football, it’s painfully obvious he can’t win the big games. If you guys don’t think the 2 point conversion meltdown this week and the running plays called 3rd and long during and at the end of the Florida game are coaching issues I have some beach front property in Tennessee to sell you. Yea yea yea, I know MR has won a SEC title and cosistently wins 10 games, but UGA fans see bad clock management/call playing in big games over and over. It’s time for another change. UGA needs a Charlie Weiz, Pete Carrol, Steve Spurier kind of coach to win championships.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 12:52 PM | Link to this

I’ve always said that MR doesn’t have enough intensity and killer instinct to lead a team and it shows on all the teams he puts on the field. Football is an intense sport and MR is too lax. Sloppy, undisciplined, and unprepared is a constant staple in the DAWG Nation under Richt.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 12:59 PM | Link to this

With South Carolina coming along ALOT faster than anyone expected, UGA may be setup to be the 3rd best (maybe the fourth best} in the EAST next year. Maybe then UGA President/AD will get the ball rolling on rolling him out of town.

By jtg

November 13, 2005 01:41 PM | Link to this

Hey Bradley, is UGA the flagship program in the SEC? I think that title belongs to the team over in Alabama on the Loveliest Village on the Plains….WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Eagle!

By jgs

November 13, 2005 01:54 PM | Link to this

You AU fans kill me. I guess it must be hard being the red headed step child in the state of Alabama. You guys have one good year every 10 years and that’s supposed to make you THE team in the SEC. Just remember you can’t even win the recruiting war in Alabama so you have to stack your team with Georgia players. Try again.

By mannick

November 13, 2005 02:04 PM | Link to this

Tough loss for GA, no doubt, but fact is that expectations have been too high for this team all year. The SEC is down this year; East mostly. UGA’s record is misleading. Look at the team; OL is over-rated; D is okay, but definitely not REAL good. PK and P are decent. Offense boils down to Shock, Pope and maybe Massaquoi. All of this doesn’t equal a championship caliber team, but may be good enough to win the SEC this year.

By au79

November 13, 2005 02:51 PM | Link to this

jgs, AU one good year every 10 years? What have you been smoking? The jury is still out on this season, but we’ve had 13 GREAT seasons in the past 23. (AU 13-10 vs. UA-Tuscaloser during that period). That’s ALL that matters to this fan.

By Twilb Dawg

November 13, 2005 02:54 PM | Link to this

ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

I am just as upset as anyone else. Yet, I also am a realist, and I know that we can not win every game. You all quickly forget all of the great things that Coach Richt has done for OUR program; 4-1 against UT, 1 SEC Title, and 2 (soon to be 3) SEC East Titles in 5 years, and 3 straight top 10 finishes (with a good chance at 4) just to name a few.

Coach Richt is still one of the BEST Coaches in the nation. How quickly you have all forgotten the Goff (GOOF) and Donnan Days. Richt has taken UGA to sights that have not been seen by this program since the early 80’s. This years senior class stands a chance to have the best record of any senior class EVER. Yes, even better than the class of ‘84. Three straight 10 win seasons, with a good chance for a 4th this year. Please stop and think, it took Dooley 16 years to win his ONE National Title, it took Bowden more than that, and there are many other “great” coaches that have never won a title.

All of you naysayers should just turn in your Red and Black now and go root for another team!

By jgs

November 13, 2005 03:18 PM | Link to this

Twilb Dawg, comparing mediocre coaches with mediocre coaches is part of the problem at UGA. You and your “leave MR alone he’s a nice guy” clan are all so content on just being better than Goff and Donnan. How about comparing MR to Pete Carrol, Steve Spurrier, and Charlie Weiz. Compare the ole ball coaches first 6 years at Florida to Richt’s tenure at Georgia. Still think he is a top coach? Give me a break and lets take it to the next level already. Winning 1 of 3 rival games every year is not good enough and it shouldn’t be to you either.

By JC

November 13, 2005 03:20 PM | Link to this

Does anybody remember that we were picked to finish Third in the Division pre-season? If you told me in Auguest that we would be going to the Championship game, I would have taken it no questions asked. Maybe this season hasn’t been so bad after all.

By Luke

November 13, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

Postgame comment by Tuberville “Thank goodness they did not pressure Cox and he had the time to pick them apart”. Postgame comment by Richt “Great effort men”.

Who would you rather have as a coach ?

This UGA fan agrees that Martinez is Richt’s responsibility, inept play calling is Richt’s responsibility, the end of the game decisions (Florida and Auburn) are Richt’s responsibility and the evidence is clear. Richt is good man, a good recruiter and an average, or possibly poor, coach.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 03:29 PM | Link to this

Well nevermind I will compare it for you. Steve Spurrier was hired by the Gators in 1990. He then won the SEC championship in 1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996 and won a national title in 1996 as well. Now let’s all stop this acceptance of mediocre play at Georgia and get it done already. What say you?

By Tarheel Tiger

November 13, 2005 03:31 PM | Link to this

Some of you need to take a history lesson. Auburn and Georgia have played 109 times. Auburn has the lead in the series. This is hardly due to ancient success. Auburn has the lead in the last 25 years also. Auburn has won 5 of the last 7 in the series and 10 of the last 12 at Athens. Georgia does not dominate Auburn.Auburn does not dominate Georgia. It is an very even series. But you Georgia fans need to quit acting like it is unusual to lose to Auburn. You should be used to it, because it happens slightly more often than 50% of the time. Auburn and Georgia are good, but not great programs, fairly evenly matched. And that is what happened last night, a close game between two teams whose defenses did not play well enough to win and whose offenses played too well to lose. Get over it DAWG fans. You aren’t superior to Auburn…history says otherwise.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 03:43 PM | Link to this

I couldn’t disagree more. We have more than enough talent in the state of Georgia to dominate like Spurrier did in Florida and is going to do in South Carolina. the only reason AU is even in the series is that half the team has historically been Georgia HS talent. So don’t give me that stuff about Georgia really has medocre talent. If that was the case AU wouldn’t be stacking their team with Georgia talent.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 03:47 PM | Link to this

Not to mention how many players on South Carolina’s team are from the state of Georgia. If we had a top coach, we wouldn’t be losing the talent to AU and SC. We could keep them in the state and dominate.

By Lube Head

November 13, 2005 03:49 PM | Link to this

Something just doesn’t smell right. We struggled to beat South Carolina. If the Razorbacks could have kicked a field goal we would have lost Homecoming. We beat Tenn. because Tenn. is worse than we are(this year). We only score 10 points against the Gators yet Vandy can score almost 40! We lose to Auburn because they are a better coached team…(again)..period! We never gave Joe T. a chance to beat Florida with that
horrible play calling in the fourth quarter. We can’t catch crucial passes against Auburn. We can’t get our 2 point conversion team on the field in time. We can’t win big games. We play to win by kicking field goals. We don’t give our players the opportunity to be great…just o.k….a notch above Ole Miss and Arkansas. Richt is afaird to lose yet prepares our team for failure by poor clock management..stupid play calling (hey how about when we recovered the fumble late in the 4th quarter and all we needed was a few 1st downs..eat the clock..kick the ball deep..yet we had a 1st play bomb and then a pass play to our weakest receiver (our fullback) that fumbled the ball after the catch..who called these plays? I am very disappointed that so many great players are not allowed to enjoy this day because of poor coaching decisions that they had nothing to do with.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 04:01 PM | Link to this

Amen lube! I am an alumni of Georgia but I get so tired every year of losing 2 of 3 SEC rival games and winning the East only when TN, FL, and now SC have down years. The talent is here in Georgia to dominate the national scene, and we should rise up and expect…no demand…Souther Cal, Notre Dame, Texas success.

By robin

November 13, 2005 05:27 PM | Link to this

Mark Richt does not need a pay raise, he needs an offensice coordinator. 1 -4 vs Florida, 2 - 3 vs Auburn, 1 - 2 vs LSU.

By J. Lee

November 13, 2005 05:44 PM | Link to this

It is SO obvious that Mark Richt cost us that game - why didn’t he run out on the field on 4th and 10 and knock down that pass? Instead, we give up 61 yards down to the goal line. Did he think someone was going to do it for him? Terrible! Now he is going to make attend the SEC Championship Atlanta again for the 3rd time in the last 5 years which I am really getting tired of. Can we please get rid of him and hire Randy Sanders, Jim Donnan, or Ray Goff so I can free up my time in early December to get some Christmas shopping done?

By shark

November 13, 2005 07:06 PM | Link to this

Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Last night, I was miserably upset - even took it with me to church this morning. We’re just playing soft on defense - like we’re all of a sudden afraid to be over-penalized for being too aggressive. And, we should never play ‘not to lose’ at home. But, we’re now No. 14 — about where we started the season. And, we should play for the title — lots of teams wish they they could put together the string we have.

By jtg

November 13, 2005 07:35 PM | Link to this

That fourth and 10 play was great. Thank Mr. Martinez for playing such tough defense. Shockley is gone after this year and Auburn will have Cox, Irons, and company back next year. WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Eagle!

By Al

November 13, 2005 07:56 PM | Link to this

Mark Richt fumbled the ball! The coaching staff allowed Irons to run through arm tackles. The Special Teams coach screwed up on the 2 point conversion. GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!! It was the 18 and 19 year old kids on the team. Do you idiots that say “we were out coached” even remember the Goff or Jim Doughnut days??? When Vandy ran up 600 yrds of offense one Saturday? You ought to join the Notre Dame Love Fest. Because you know nothing about SEC Football.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 08:16 PM | Link to this

Ummm newsflash for Al. If you stand there confused and don’t call a timeout from the sideline when you need a 2 point conversion and let 2 delay of game penalties run off instead, THATS A COACHING PROBLEM. Get your head out of the clouds sir.

By Spoon

November 13, 2005 08:18 PM | Link to this

To all you Dawg fans who read my posts during the week you would have been happy to know I watched the game with a roomful of Georgia fans in Athens. Granted I had the fun when the game was over but they were awesome people, would do it again in a heartbeat. To Ron if you want info on Bama check www.al.com, have fun. To all you Georgia fans…for God sakes quit bashing Richt, if you think its so easy to Coach then quit your jobs, become GA’s somewhere and get into it. Complain about the ref’s or your players but your Coach has done more to improve Georgia’s image in the past 5 years than any coach since Dooley. But then again y’all fired a coach that never lost a bowl game in Donnan…if y’all get rid of him y’all will regret it for years. Get off his back, sad thing is I really really love beating Georgia but its how you fans react to your school even in the face of a good season is what really disgust me. All I have to say is Bear Bryant coached how many years at Bama and won how many titles? when you get the answer do the math and give Richt the same number of years and I will be willing to bet he gets at least two titles in that time…Even dooley only got one in his entire time at Georgia so quit whining. Enjoy life an hope that y’all will win the SEC…at least y’all can still do that. It was a great game, looked alot like that USC/Notre Dame game.

By jgs

November 13, 2005 08:26 PM | Link to this

It’s really funny how these righteous AU fans are so understanding of a loss as long as it’s not their own. Hmmmm remember 2 years ago when AU’s president was flying around in the dark of night trying to stage a coup with the help of Petrino in Louisville. You guys are so understanding now all of a sudden.

By AL

November 13, 2005 08:32 PM | Link to this

newsflash for jgs.. There are about 100 division 1A schools that would love to be contending for the championship of the countries toughest conference. You don’t get into contention for that prize with second rate coaches, in this league my friend. Just enjoy the fact we have one of the countries premier programs. We seem to run coaches up the flagpole just to knock them off. Enjoy the championship game my friend while 10 other SEC teams watch.

By Spoon

November 13, 2005 08:37 PM | Link to this

Jg, We can as righteous as we want cause we “the fans” of Auburn had nothing to do with that gaff by the President. And his a* got canned for it as he should have. Y’all should hire him…he’d fit right in at Georgia. Of course we weren’t happy that season when we lost to USC, GT, Ole Miss, and Georgia, but when we heard that they tried to go behind his back like they did we were outraged…but given time Tuberville fixed the problem…give Richt time we went 13-0 on Tubby’s sixth season I believe Richt’s is next year…check back then.

By ben

November 13, 2005 08:47 PM | Link to this

What makes you think FSU will want Richt? They want to win the games that count!!! Richt seems to develop a brain fart when the pressure is on.

By AUBSUX

November 13, 2005 10:10 PM | Link to this

Hey Auburn, you beat us by one point! It could have gone either way. Now all of the sudden you’re the best team in the SEC? Gimme a break! You rubes take a backseat every year to the flagship university in your state that is located in T’town. I was impressed by Irons, but Cox is average at best. Sutherland doesn’t fumble we win, period! I wonder if Tommy T was able to break in his “duck huntin’” boots while on the sideline? What a rube.

By scs

November 13, 2005 11:57 PM | Link to this

AUBSUX

Multiple use of rube…i award you two little dog bones to stick on your program of a BIG FAT LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Loser!

WAR DAMN!

By 87dawg

November 14, 2005 06:57 AM | Link to this

I never said it would be easy to coach a major college football team, but I tell you this, I would be smart enough to know that a 1 point conversion means absolutley NOTHING to me. Whether we make it or miss it, a field goal by auburn still beats us. It was an insignificant point.

2 delay of game penalties on a conversion because the team is confused is pure and simple coaching. The coaches blew it. You have 11 guys that have responsibility for conversions. Not 11 and 5 other guys that are involved just because they want to be. Same as on a kickoff, a punt (too bad, florida), a kick or punt return. There are specific people for that. If your team is confused, either you didn’t plan ahead properly or you changed the play up and confused the team. Even WITH the 2 penalties, UGA had to have those 2 points. Again, 1 means nothing, make it or miss it. We needed the 2. And playing for a field goal?! What the heck was that?! Same stuff he pulled in florida. Granted, Pope got flagged with a mysterious holding penalty that was total BS and did not happen, but still, you send a team out there and say “Hey guys. Let’s sit on it and get a field goal”. What a joke.

That said, there is NO excuse for letting a 4th an 10 play from the opponents side of the field go for 62 yards. I’d have sent the kitchen sink, but even if I didn’t, I’d expect my team to do their job. Just a bad, bad game……

By DB

November 14, 2005 08:04 AM | Link to this

Quit making excuses UGA, like always, you were overrated this season and your team is not that good. You barely beat crappy teams and then you lost to good teams. Get over yourselves and War Eagle!!!

By Dawg Fan

November 14, 2005 08:32 AM | Link to this

Auburn’s a good football team and we lost by a point. Our defense isn’t as good as it needs to be, but Auburn has a helluva good offense. I was as disappointed as everyone else in how we lost it, but let’s get some perspective. In the end, when, not if, we beat Kentucky, we get a shot at the SEC title. You can whine about backing into it all you like, but we went to no championship games before Richt and we’ll be in our third in his five years. LSU is not demonstrably better than Auburn and we’ll have a decent chance of winning our second SEC title in Richt’s five years. I’d like us to win all of our games too, but very few teams actually do that, and those that do get a break along the way. At some point, as our coaching staff keeps us in just about every game, we’ll manage to do it. It amazes me that some of you are willing to run off a coach who has had us in the top 10 for three years running, and if we win out, which is a very real possibility, we’ll be back there this year with another SEC title.

By mojo54

November 14, 2005 09:46 AM | Link to this

i’m not to the fire MR stage, i think he could be a great coach. the problem is he hasn’t been a head coach yet - he’s too busy being an offensive coordinator. issues with time management (the 2-point debacle / delay of games) are related to his time spent on play selection. let someone else deal with the plays and clipboards - COACH THE TEAM. this is really the most poorly coached group i’ve seen since the goff years. it’s like safeties and linebackers are playing flag football with the opposing team - you’ve actually got to wrap them up. fumbles, dropped passes, kickers and quarterbacks trying to share the same field, offside penalties, what the…? i believe in you MR, just let someone else handle the schemes, you handle the team. and p.s., you can’t win in the sec without an aggressive defense. the prevent is for pop warners and backyard pickup games.

By MURPHY

November 14, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this

COULD WE HIRE CUTCLIFF AT UGA ? WOULD THAT NOT BE A GOOD MOVE ? WHAT A GREAT ADDITION THAT WOULD BE TO OUR STAFF. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE COACH RICHT AND THE REST OF THE STAFF ALOT STRONGER.

By gamecock gary

November 14, 2005 10:41 AM | Link to this

made my reservations for atlanta….the mildcats will put same offensive whipping on dawgs as they did vandy and ol ball coach will miraculously reach championship game…bring on lsu and by the way nice “prevent defense”…why did you not just let them score and get the ball back with some time instead of mope around for 3 plays and give them an extra point field goal…time to go back to class/you definitely peaked in knoxville against weakest tennesse team in decade or so…ROLL ‘COCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Rob

November 14, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this

Georgia is and will continue to be the class of the SEC East under Mark Richt. Georgia lost by one point on a night where Auburn seemed to get all the bounces. Hats off to Auburn because they made some big plays. Auburn clearly has best coaching staff in the West. That being said, Georgia clearly has the best coaching staff in the East. No disrespect to Steve Spurrier and crew. Fans need to lay off Mark Richt on this game. He did not cause the two critical fumbles. He wasn’t the safety who failed to drop deep in coverage on the big fourth down play. He was actually smart on running the ball to get us into field goal range for the go ahead field goal. I think we would have drove for a TD on that drive if it wasn’t for the Bulls%*t offensive pass interference call. Playcalling is overrated. Georgia has their best head coach since Vince Dooley and maybe their best ever. Fans need to understand that you usually have to have some luck to navigate the SEC undefeated and it looked like the luck was on Auburn’s side Saturday. Just look at the two fumbles by Auburn’s receivers that rolled so close to going out of the endzone and becoming touchbacks for Georgia. I heard someone say “I can’t believe we gave up that play on 4th and 11!” My response was that Auburn fans were probably saying “I can’t believe we gave up that play on 4th and 15!” after the 2002 game in Auburn. This was a great football game…unfortunately for the DAWGS, Lady Luck was wearing orange and blue this year.

By Rob

November 14, 2005 11:13 AM | Link to this

And to those of you who say Georgia is overrated this year….Go Back and check how many folks were picking the Dawgs to win the SEC East this year!!! Georgia is currently about where most had predicted this year (record wise)with the exception of being in the driver seat for the SEC East crown. Dawgs have an opportunity to finish much higher than predicted with a strong finish. The only teams that were overrated in the SEC this year were Tennessee and Florida!!

By trojan ted

November 14, 2005 11:16 AM | Link to this

still have not figured whether sec plight is parity or mediocrity….enjoy your armchairs on jan.4th because YOU WILL BE WATCHING………….roll trojans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By MURPHY

November 14, 2005 11:53 AM | Link to this

HOW IS IT THAT EVERY YEAR,TEAMS THAT LOOSE EARLY IN THE YEAR SEEM TO GET STRONGER TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR AND DAWGS START OFF WITH A BANG AND EVER YEAR LAY AN EGG STARTING WITH THE FLA GAME? WHY CANT WE FINISH STRONG?

By NGA Dawg

November 14, 2005 11:58 AM | Link to this

Roll Trojans!!!??? Is that a jingle for a condom ad? Go to the LA Times and spout off, we don’t care about Pacifier-Ten football. USC-West, come play in the SEC and you’d have two losses as well.

Amen to the overrated comment above! UGA was a CONSENSUS pre-season 3rd and they’re a UK game away from Atlanta. If they win out, they’ll likely play an LSU squad that I don’t think is as good as Auburn.

I hated to see them lose this one (hurt BAD), but we’ve torn their hearts out in the same manner. What a rivalry! All-time best in the SEC, IMO.

Go Dawgs!

By gdawg

November 14, 2005 01:40 PM | Link to this

Great game. People assume that Auburn is an up and coming program after the great year last year. Hate to tell you people that Auburn didn’t lose all of the talent from last year and they are still a very good football team. Great game. I hated it but great game. Bama will have two loses by the end of the season. That said to all of you smack talkers putting down the Bulldogs and the coaches WE WERE PICKED TO FINISH THIRD IN OUR DIVISION. FLORIDA FANS, AUBURN FANS BE SURE TO TUNE INTO YOUR CBS STATION ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER TO WATCH OUR TEAM PLAY FOR THE SEC CHAMPIONSHIP.

By Gamecockfan

November 14, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this

Watch your back pups, we’re coming to get you! Wait till the O’l Ball Coach gets his players on the field.

By the way, stop being such cry babies! You act as if winning championships is a god-given right.

By over-richt-ed

November 14, 2005 02:32 PM | Link to this

Mark Richt, “the fleet admiral” of the SEC “Standard Bearing” UGA Bulldogs, had the WINNINGEST QB in NCAA HISTORY in David Greene and managed: 1 Music City Bowl, 1 Sugar Bowl, 1 Capital One Bowl and 1 Outback Bowl. If this is the standard - the SEC is screwed.

And unless Richt wins the SEC Championship…it’s going to be the Peach Bowl this year.

By Robert

November 14, 2005 02:46 PM | Link to this

First off congrats to Auburn. You won. Beat Bama please. They have one good year and they think they are the program that they were when the Bear was around. Here is my take on things:

First off calling for Richt’s head is so absurd I can’t even understand it. He has brought this program back to the upper tier of college football. Has he had some really stupid moments? You better believe it. Does that mean he should lose his job? No way. If you think so leave your red and black at the door and pick up a members only Jacket. They love to call for the resignation of their coach after a tough loss. Get off the band wagon.

Did everyone forget that this was a rivaly game? Strange and miraculous things happen during rivalry games. Auburn 02, Tech 97, Tennessee 01, Florida 02 (Edwards drop in the open field) Jasper’s “fumble” in 99, Reggie Ball last year. Throw out the record books and all the stats for these kinds of games. 4th and 10 will now be in Auburn lore from now on just like Micheal Johnson’s catch is in ours. It’s just football guys, let’s remember that.

I think the person that shoulders a lot of this blame is Martinez. PLEASE blitz someone. Geez, Leak craps his pants when you blitz him and we sit back in our zone and let him pick us apart. Cox is a 1st year QB and we do the same to him. Has anyone seen us tackle someone since the Tennessee game? Just wondering.

If you can honestly say that you are upset with another potential 10 win season, please email me and tactfully tell me why. We are in a year where our D coordinator left, our star QB, D lineman, LB and safety are all gone. This was a rebuilding year. I’m not saying that we should be happy with the way we’ve played, but let’s just be happy with where our program is and where it’s headed. Another top 5 recruiting class and another chance to play in the SEC title game. Go Dawgs!! Beat Kentucky then the Bees and on to the Dome!!

-Robert

By RUDY's BACK!!!

November 14, 2005 03:10 PM | Link to this

Why are all you Puppy fans upset?? The lame-a* dogs CHOKE EVERY YEAR!! The dogs have NEVER been a legitamate top 5 team and never will be!!! GO IRISH!!!

By vlad from vandy

November 14, 2005 03:48 PM | Link to this

trojan ted…we have played several of the teams you are referring to as mediocre…try scheduling them sometime rather than your san diego sts…and to kentucky kade who was bragging on another blog that the cats new found offense is going to roll in to athens and pound georgia’s porous defense…i doubt it…plus saying you are going to blow them away like you did us to save coach brooks’ job…5 points is not a blowout…you should be glad clock ran out…ROLL DORES!!

By trojan ted

November 14, 2005 04:12 PM | Link to this

bring in on vandy…come to the coliseum and we will make the arkansas fiasco look like a squeaker…..trojans forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By trojan ted

November 14, 2005 04:14 PM | Link to this

bring in on vandy…come to the coliseum and we will make the arkansas fiasco look like a squeaker/another sec foe bites the dust!!…..trojans forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By wild thing

November 14, 2005 05:28 PM | Link to this

what is this with vandy and usc blogs…i thought this was a georgia site/at least florida alabama auburn ga.tech or the other usc?

By desertdawg

November 14, 2005 07:01 PM | Link to this

Tough loss- but thats UGA/Auburn every year—some of the greatest games of the year—5 OT’s a few years back comes to mind. Anyway, lets focus on the cats and take care of business Sat and we will be in the dome for the Championship—all the Tigers/Gamecocks and Gators are coming out of the woodwork—last time I checked the team that wins the most conference games goes to the chanpionship game and that will be the DAWGS!! Put that in your corncob pipes and smoke it—GO DAWGS !!!

By desertdawg

November 14, 2005 07:18 PM | Link to this

Rudy—when was the last time ND played on New Years Day—-the 41-9 beat down in Tempe by Oregon State?

By charles

November 14, 2005 08:46 PM | Link to this

Come on coach, get it done. No reason for this lost. Drop passes (I counted six) bad play calling. I even know that you have a better chance if you let AU score instead of trying to win the game with 6 seconds left from the 20. This is BS, every year we sit here doing this, when every year you give us reason to. It’s time for you to step up your game, or step out.

By SC Dawgs

November 14, 2005 09:26 PM | Link to this

Gamecock Gary & Gamecock fan, are you guys actually talking smack to us GA fans? You’ve got to be kidding me. Your memory has gone south…newsflash, we beat you guys this year, just like we always do! I live in Columbia & all these Gamecock rednecks are walking around with their chests stuck out because they actually cracked the top 25. What a joke! How bad did Auburn beat you guys again? Gamecocks, you little chickens have a lot more games to win before you start talking smack in the SEC. It actually makes me laugh to think that you idiots think that your f’ball program is on the level of UGA. You have Spurrier..so what! That doesn’t mean that you’re gonna win the East title. Actually, I hope you little chickens do get cocky, so when we kick your a* in Columbia next year it will be too sweet. Go Dawgs & Go Clemson Tigers!

By Tech Fan

November 14, 2005 11:12 PM | Link to this

Hey, complain all you want, but we have Gailey and that trumps all of your whining.
Yes, losing to Florida this year and every year that Zook was there is unacceptable. But, blame that on psychology. Aside from that, in previous years, you have lost to LSU (national champs) and Auburn (national champs).
UGA played a great game and they were hurt by Auburn’s running game more than they were by Richt’s conservative call. Blame it on your defense, your offense played great less one bad play. I don’t know what that 4th and 10 was all about, but that should have never happened. Listen, I want you guys to get rid of Richt, so when we get rid of Gailey, we can pick him up and you guys will realize what a great coach he is.

By Don't Mess with Texas

November 14, 2005 11:24 PM | Link to this

Can’t win em all. But when you have the advantage, you got to take advantage. We lost to OU all the time, but this year, OU is down, so we’re going to take it from them. The SEC is weak. Tennessee? Florida? South Carolina? Alabama? C’mon dogs, you guys should have siezed the moment. SoCal will lose a game, which (if you guys were unbeaten) would have freed up a slot for you to join us at the Rose Bowl. With Tennesse so weak, South Carolina only starting, Auburn losing their whole team to the draft, Alabama not being able to play offense if their life depended on it, LSU inconsistent and overrated, and Florida adapting to Urban Meyer, this was your year. Its not going to get easier in the SEC. You have to go to South Carolina next year, and Spurrier is drooling at the mouth for that game. Enjoy the Rose Bowl from home! HAHAHA

By Terry Cecil

November 15, 2005 12:23 AM | Link to this

Why haven’t we seen more comments on the pass inteference call on Pope. I believe it was one of the worst calls I’ve seen and it changed the outcome of the game.

By Dawgstyle

November 15, 2005 01:44 AM | Link to this

Dawgs,remember when we clinched the east in’02? We were down bigtime at the half,Cadillac was hurt, so Brown was the starting tailback. He made our d-line & and our secondary look like a pop-warner defense almost single-handedly.But wait,that’s when Van-Gorder was on the sideline,right? Look familiar? We all know Van-Gorder had a personality that made him slap a defensive back on the a* when they did someting good to say “good job”,& do it a little harder when he said: “You know better”.That first half was a disaster for us,and Auburn continued to score points in the second half. His enthusiasm went so far. Eventually,it was offense that won it for us,would you agree in that particular game? I don’t think coach Richt called a bad game in that first half,but we were still losing. It took John Stinchcomb & his dedication to challenge our offense to meet up to expectations & they did.1:25 left to take the lead after trailing up to that point & then went on to clinch the east at Jordan-Hare. My point is this, we are lucky to have coach Richt, We are virtually surrounded by good teams with good tallent in this conference,take away Johnson’s 4th quarter td pass,& the gators go to the show. The coaches were consistent I think that day, but John Stinchcomb told his team that we’ll win if we can knuckle-up. They did. Players made the difference in the outcome that day,not the coaches. I think sometimes we forget that. Let’s don’t make the huge mistake of making coach Richt & his family feel unwelcome here,Tennesee is looking. GO DAWGS!!!!!

By Dawgstyle

November 15, 2005 01:49 AM | Link to this

Dawgs,remember when we clinched the east in’02? We were down bigtime at the half,Cadillac was hurt, so Brown was the starting tailback. He made our d-line & and our secondary look like a pop-warner defense almost single-handedly.But wait,that’s when Van-Gorder was on the sideline,right? Look familiar? We all know Van-Gorder had a personality that made him slap a defensive back on the a* when they did someting good to say “good job”,& do it a little harder when he said: “You know better”.That first half was a disaster for us,and Auburn continued to score points in the second half. His enthusiasm went so far. Eventually,it was offense that won it for us,would you agree in that particular game? I don’t think coach Richt called a bad game in that first half,but we were still losing. It took John Stinchcomb & his dedication to challenge our offense to meet up to expectations & they did.1:25 left to take the lead after trailing up to that point & then went on to clinch the east at Jordan-Hare. My point is this, we are lucky to have coach Richt, We are virtually surrounded by good teams with good tallent in this conference,take away Johnson’s 4th quarter td pass,& the gators go to the show. The coaches were consistent I think that day, but John Stinchcomb told his team that we’ll win if we can knuckle-up. They did. Players made the difference in the outcome that day,not the coaches. I think sometimes we forget that. Let’s don’t make the huge mistake of making coach Richt & his family feel unwelcome here,Tennesee is looking. GO DAWGS!!!!! P.S., I never thought I would say this, but I agree with Tech Fan.

By Dawgstyle

November 15, 2005 01:51 AM | Link to this

Dial-up is killin’ me!!!!!

By UGA4Life

November 15, 2005 08:00 AM | Link to this

Everyone that has been blasting coach Richt is not a true UGA fan. How many SEC championships did we win prior to Rict. Jim Donnan had way more talent than Rict ever had and he never even sniffed an SEC tittle. This was suppossed to be a rebuilding year for the dawgs and with a win over Kentucky we will be playing for the SEC championship. The only thing that Rict has every done wrong at UGA is not play DJ Shockley sooner. Not one other team in the nation could come down to the SEC and play our confrence schedule, or any other team’s confrence schedule in the SEC and come out without a loss. The truth is we play football down here. That’s what makes our confrence so great. This loss does not belong to Rict. This loss belongs to the players who played their a*******e$ off Saturday night but just came up a little bit short at the end. I will forever be screaming GO Dawgs and Go coach Rict.

By Twilb Dawg

November 15, 2005 10:23 AM | Link to this

Hey jgs, you are right. I mean it just really stinks that the Dawgs are headed to the Dome for the 3rd time in four years (the only other team to do this is your beloved Spurrier), it stinks that he is 49-12, it stinks that he can’t score more than 30 points against AU, it stinks that for the first time in years WE, the DAWG NATION EXPECT to WIN. I mean get real and quit your b***! It is lunatics like you that will run off a coach like this and then be the first ones to complain when he does leave.

As for comparing him to Spurrier, remember that the UF job WAS NOT Spurriers first head coaching job. Yes, even the Ol Ball Coach had to come up the learning curve to “Greatness”.

By Andrew

November 15, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this

Where is Jim Donnan when you need him? Didn’t he lose a job because of not winning the big games? He needs to return to Georgia and request his job back. Richt has proven no better of a big game coach than Donnan. But on a happier note….with all these unhappy fans I will be able to get better tickets next year.

By Andrew

November 15, 2005 12:20 PM | Link to this

WE WANT DONNAN

By gamecock fan

November 15, 2005 01:51 PM | Link to this

SC Dawgs, I know you can’t beleive that a Gamecock fan would dare talk smack about your precious pups. But you forget that in recent years we almost always play you close whether at home or at Athens. And that was before Spurrier came on board.

Spurrier has proven that he can win even with an untalented team (we lost 9 starters this year and few experts expected us to become bowl eligible).

Say what you want to make yourself feel better, but in a year or two, Spurrier will improve the Gamecock’s talent level just enough to consistently beat you. That’s gotta suck for you!

By Rudy

November 15, 2005 01:52 PM | Link to this

This is fun. Though I was born and raised in Georgia, I and my family could not have been happier to move away from the “land of a thousand cousins”. For you slow-witted Dawg fans out there, that is a reference to the huge family lineage enjoyed by the inbred rednecks that comprise about 98% of the UGA fan-base. It was a solid game of two closely matched teams. Bottom line, though it seems impossible for the rednecks to accept, AU is a stronger team. Had Shockley not returned for this game, AU could have won by 4 or 5 touchdowns. I fully enjoy the spectator sport of watching the high-intellect arguments of why UGA lost. Try this…AU was better. Keep you heads up though, if LSU loses one of its remaining two conference games, AU and UGA can meet again…and the rednecks can go home losers once more.

By gamecock gary

November 15, 2005 07:02 PM | Link to this

after georgia loses to kentucky i hear the poulan-weedeater is interested//gamecocks-27, lsu-24 in championship…should get good tv reception in athens

By trojan ted

November 15, 2005 07:14 PM | Link to this

gamecock gary…do not get too carried away///REMEMBER THE REAL USC IS ON THE LEFT COAST….bring your spurrier over here and he will have REDSKIN REVISITED///HOW BOUT THEM TROJANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

By SC Dawgs

November 15, 2005 08:23 PM | Link to this

Gamecock Fan, I actually can believe that a person such as yourself would talk smack to a GA fan, because you SC fans live in a dream world. You win a few games, and then all of the sudden you get on a UGA blog & talk smack. You just mentioned how you “always play us close” whether in Athens or Columbia. That speaks volumes for a football program when all their fans can brag about is, “we played you guys close, but still lost the game”.

Let’s review some history here….I seem to recall beating you guys 31-7 in 2003 at the friendly confines of Sanford Stadium. Is that what you would consider close? The bottom line is that we have won & you have lost. If anyone cared how close a team played another team, then we would get more credit with our 31-30 loss to Auburn. I also seem to remember the Gamecocks debacle on the Plains earlier this year. 48-7…wasn’t it? You actually think that SC will consistently beat UGA? You should take that comedy act on the road. True, Spurrier probably will improve the C**’s talent level, while UGA will continue to recruit the best players in the state of GA. Mark Richt is a good coach & an even better recruiter. Yes we lost the game, but you cannot win them all. The SEC is a tough conference. Our recruiting class right now is ranked #3 behind Texas & USC (Southern Cal), plus last year’s class is full of studs that have been redshirted & just waiting for an opportunity to crush a Gamechicken. Since 2000, we have won more SEC games than any team. Under MR we have 2 East titles, 1 conference title, 1 Sugar Bowl victory and we will be in the Dome again this year. You need to spend more time worrying about the Tigers instead of talking smack to a superior f’ball program. We won’t need any luck on Sat. versus KY. You, however, will need all the luck in the world to beat Clemson. Go Dawgs!

By RedDawg

November 15, 2005 09:30 PM | Link to this

I thought we will beat Auburn by at least 2 TDs and in fact we should, we keep hearing Auburn is the #1 offense in the SEC well that is so misleading it depends who you played, all of us know that Auburn has a cupcake schedule. to make the long story short Mark Richt made many coaching mistakes, its very obvious to average fan. It is clear our coaches didnt have a good plan for Auburn, they all failed, and it is very simple to plan for Auburn just stop THE RUN!!!if you stop the run. Auburn is finished and to prove to you my point see how Alabama will beat auburn, yes Alabama will beat Auburn mark my word. How to beat Auburn is very simple just don’t play zone defense it wont work with auburn, their running attack is very good you cant stop it by front 4 you need to involve the safeties and let your corners take care of their receivers, it seemed that our coaches were worried to be beat by Cox that is really stupid! Sorry but stupid cox is not Brady or Payton Manning. AND THE WORSE THING WAS we played zone defense and we gave many big plays how awkward is that. Every team in the SEC has a recipe, yes our coaches should know better, there is a recipe to beat every team for example, Florida if you let me coach against Florida I will tear them apart, the formula is take care of Leak once you crush him its over, but if you play like GA all the time zone defense you will pay the price, Auburn formula stop the run, easy and simple look how USC Trojans did, Tennessee, same s** stop the run, LSU pick up the blitz. change how we play defense, we become very easy to figure out, try to mix things and dont count on zone defense this much, our defense is really bad however we have the best players, the other teams expect the zone defense try to suprise them with different schemes and different looks, and change that in the second half play smart dont be predectable.

 

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