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By eric

October 25, 2005 02:53 AM | Link to this

Well, it’s the same ole’ same ole’ with you. Curtis Martin had a bad game, because the Falcons contained him they way they should, and because the Falcs got up early, meant the Jets had to pass more. Also, the defense played more stingy, and was blitzing more, like they did against Philly. If I’m not mistaken, they still lead the league in sacks again, and their front 7 are a definite force to be rcekoned with. As for Vick’s 3 INTs you can toss out the window. Two were deflected (even thought the one to Crumpler was thrown behind him), and the other was forced when they blitzed Vick. Don’t forget, this Jets defense ain’t bad. They beat-up Tampa Bay pretty good a couple of weeks ago. The thing I’m most tired of, is hearing people trash Vick for not throwing the ball. This is the #1 rushing team in the NFL. There’s no reason to throw the ball so much. If you haven’t noticed, the Steelers don’t throw too much either, and that’s because they’re like the #2 team running. If you want great stats (which are bogus anyhow), I guess you should look towards McNabb and those guys. But I’ll tell you what, the Eagles look like crap, they’ve been exposed, and this is the 3rd game they should have lose. McNabb throws, because their running game is non-existent. Trust me, Vick can throw, and he will. But right now, when you can run the way Atlanta does, there really is no need to throw. Even though I hate him, just ask Sean Salisbury. He’s got Atlanta going to the Superbowl already.

By tb

October 25, 2005 03:16 AM | Link to this

While I agree with your post in general, the Falcons have to improve on their passing game.

We have seen Vick pass much better. Remember when Reeves was coaching? Vick had pretty good numbers.

Vick can still pass and we have pretty good, though young, recievers.

They are just in a funk. They should be able to turn it around. The passing game is about timing and confidence. It turn around all of a sudden.

We are 5-2 and the passing game has only come up big in one game. The one where Dez caught his late TD.

Their time will come.

By KM

October 25, 2005 07:26 AM | Link to this

Vick had a very bad passing game. He needs to improve his accuracy and touch. (I thought one short pass to Dunn would go straight through his chest.Dunn did drop it.)The good news is the Falcons are 5-2. It’s great to have problems and still pull off a win. Good teams do that.

By Kudzu

October 25, 2005 07:53 AM | Link to this

Vick improve his passing game…that’s oximoronish language. You don’t improve on someting you don’t have.

One dimensional football teams will not win big games in the NFL…

By CJ

October 25, 2005 08:12 AM | Link to this

3rd best winning percentage of quarter backs with 30 or more games!

“THE INCOMPARABLE MIKE VICK”

I don’t care how the plane gets there, just as long as it lands!

By Larry

October 25, 2005 08:12 AM | Link to this

This is a weird football team!

They’re in the NFL and are 5-2 w/o a passing game.

They’re defense has won the last two games primarily because of turnovers.

They have the most inaccurate QB in NFL history.

They have the fastest QB in NFL history.

Sometimes they play like they can beat anyone and sometimes they play like they could lose to anyone.

They appear capable of winning the majority of their games but incapable of the balanced attack necessary to win deep into the postseason.

They have a coach who likes to snort ammonia and who encourages his players to snort it with him on national TV as many impressionable kids look on.

Very, very weird!

By kudzu

October 25, 2005 08:22 AM | Link to this

Very good obsevations Larry…and weird is definitely the way they make me feel.

By Da Truth: AdrianF

October 25, 2005 08:35 AM | Link to this

Yeah yeah “good teams do that” (win against bad teams). I’m so tired of hearing the same old BS. “Vick just wins, so what he can’t pass.” Guess what…eventually that’s going to catch up to this team. Yeah Vick wins but he’s not winning by himself. He has a pretty good defense that gives him and the offense good starting field position. But guess what…he still can’t cash in turnovers or field position into touchdowns which in the end will cost this team games against better football teams. So what you get 3 pts on a field goal. Other good teams cash in touchdowns when they’re inside the opposition’s 10 yard line.

I like the Falcons but the truth needs to be told here today. I’m probably the only black person in Atlanta that’ll pull the excuses from up under Vick. Everybody says the same things…”so what he wins. We have the number one rushing team in the league, why pass?” But check this, one day the passing game or Vick’s lack there of is going to cost this team a championship. Think about it they haven’t really played anyone yet except the Eagles (without their run stuffer Jeremiah Trotter) and Patriots (without their run stoppers Tedy Bruschi and Rodney Harrison). What does the record really mean? At this point in time…Nothing!!! The Falcons still have to face the Bucs, Panthers, and the Bears, who are 1st, 3rd, and 4th respectfully in rushing defense. Those teams don’t even allow 84 yards rushing in a game. What is Vick going to do then?

In order for this team to be seriously looked at as a superbowl contender Michael Vick “must” develope some type of a real passing game. I’m not saying that he has to transform into Peyton Manning but he has to start completing way more than 52% of his passes as he does now. Vick is ranked 29th out of 31 QBs in QB rating with a 63. That is not going to cut it in this league. Superbowl QBs have a QB rating of at least 90. With that said Michael Vick has a very long way to go and a very short time (this year) to do it. Point being…

VICK HAS TO GET BETTER AS A PASSER OR FORGET THE SUPERBOWL. GO FALCONS!!!

By degrillmouse

October 25, 2005 08:54 AM | Link to this

Vic is a athlete (but a quarterback?) Vic has a very strong arm, but I don’t think he sees all his receivers. the timing is off is it Vic or his receivers or both. We will not go very far with this type of passing.

By Robert Morgan

October 25, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this

All and I do mean ALL teams have their problems. I can say as a long time suffering falcon fan that I would rather have a 5-2 “flawed” team over a 2-5 “stat monster” team. In the final analysis all anyone cares about is who won. It might be overused but SCOREBOARD BABY!!!

By Ben Skott

October 25, 2005 09:03 AM | Link to this

I don’t care, as long as they win some and stay exciting, then I’ll never miss a game on TV again.

By ironfeet01

October 25, 2005 09:26 AM | Link to this

I must admit that Vick must improve as a passer. I won’t argue this. But he is the best big game QB this team has ever had. No QB that ever played for this franchise was as effective as Vick has in crunch time. The man might not be the greatest passer, but he is the best “leader” this team has ever seen. He puts his body on the line every game and he plays with more heart than many players in the league. Think of these things before passing judgement on him for being for not being a great pocket passer.

By paul02085

October 25, 2005 09:30 AM | Link to this

The bright side is that we are 5-2 without a passing game and if we (Vick) ever does get accurate and smart, we will be completely unstoppable. The dim side is that i am starting to think he will never get accurate and smart. I keep saying he is young, etc.etc. but he seems to be getting worse not only in accuracy but in decision making.
PS-There is no doubt our receivers are not the best, but Vick is part of that problem for sure. Dont get me wrong, I love the guy and if it werent for him i probably wouldnt care near as much about the Falcons, but i really wonder if this is the best we will ever see from Mike.

By PreyDawg

October 25, 2005 09:36 AM | Link to this

AdrianF,

Thank you and Mr. Moore for bringing a little reality to the situation. I love Vick. I sprang 70 bucks (alot of dough for one as cheap as me) for his Jersey. His bobble head sits on my desk at work. But something is up with him this year.

I am afraid that the hits have gotten in Vicks head. As a 30 year Falcon fan I have seen it before. (Chris Chandler in the last years, Chris Miller, even Bart) Vick is playing scared.

That may sound funny for one who runs into traffic and dives for first downs. But Vick is not scared of running. That feels right to him. He is scared of taking a blindside shot etc. He is feeling the rush before it really gets to him and thus shortening his pocket time unnecessarily.

He is most of all afraid of throwing a pick. It is always true that he does not go through his progressions. Sometimes he goes through them and wont pull the trigger. Maybe no one is getting enough seperation.

True there were two drops that I counted. But there were many more passes that were way high, into the turf, or behind he receiver. Crumpler helps him so much and like Dunn is the total warrior. But Vick is going to get Crump killed by stretching him out on those high throws.

The pregame coverage last night was deplorable. ESPN, ABC and NFL network all said “Mike Vick vs the New York Jets”

That is not only unfair but inaccurate.

Warrick Dunn, Crumpler and the much maligned defense are carrying this team at this point.

Even special teams are not nearly as good. What is Rossum’s problem??!!!

By SRF

October 25, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this

Peerless was blamed - did not help. Dez was blamed - did not help. Pretty soon they are going to run out of people to blame. Just 11 completions (most to Crumpler), and 3 interceptions. Not a very good passing team. This will catch up to the Falcons just like the Braves. The Braves won a lot of games and made it to the playoffs, but were quickly smacked by a real team. Atlanta can win some lucky games and get to the playoffs each year but sooner or later people will get tired of them always losing the big game.

By Smith

October 25, 2005 09:40 AM | Link to this

Matt Schaub is an excellent quarterback and Mike Vick is a speedster. Put Schaub in at QB and Vick as WR. Vick is more suited to running patterns and Schaub is a pinpoint passer. That will greatly improve the Falcons offensive woes. Schaub is a Brett Farve in waiting, we can’t let him get away.

By Rob D

October 25, 2005 09:50 AM | Link to this

There are a bunch of punks on this board. Why are ATL fans so negatice towards your own team. People are whining we havent played the Bucs(Jets beat them by the way), the Panthers and everybody else. What was the record of Carolina and the Bucs against us last year, and I guess we must have beat a few people to win the division. And our offense was no better last year than it is this year. I was just as disapppointed as the rest after seeing vick’s past few performances, but I am not going to doubt my team. Now when we start losing and dont make the playoffs, then get on here and call for the trade or release of Vick(thats pretty funny)but until then go wear another jersey, you stinking transplants. I am 24 and have been a loyal Atlanta fan my whole life, good and bad, I am enjoying this success while it lasts. I guess you guys are spoiled now, and you dont remember a few years ago, where we couldnt get a home game on TV on sunday, not alone 5 primtime games for the hometeam. GO FALCONS!!

By Khao$

October 25, 2005 09:51 AM | Link to this

I have to agree with TB. Vick seemed to be a better passer under Reeves. He is regressing, it seems. In 2002 (under Reeves) he had 2936 passing yards on 421 attempts. In his next full year (under Knapps offense) he had 2313 yards in 321 attempts. Although his attempts could be looked upon as a reason his number went down, the fact is, most of the “greats” improve as time goes on. I’m the very first one to admit that Vick is a winner. But, in order for the Falcons to be a balanced threat and make some noise in the playoffs, we’ve got to get the passing game up and running. And to me, it just seems that Vick and the WCO isn’t clicking. I remember back in 2002 (the game against the Steelers that ended in a tie) Vick had two 3rd and 20 plays (or around about that). We got first downs…with Vicks arm. My point? I haven’t seen that Vick in a while. I know that it’s in him. I also remember the 2003 preseason in which Vick got hurt. Before Baltimore took him out, he had a game against Green Bay. He and Peerless connected. He and Finneran connected (Finn scored a TD and hurt himself on the play). Everybody was saying, “boy Vick looked good.” This was all under Reeves offense. I used to complain about Reeves being conservative. But to me, it just seems his system suited Vick the best. Maybe Knapp should revisit some of those old tapes or something.

By RB

October 25, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this

Someone needs to call out Atlanta’s QB coach! After all this time, why the hell can’t Vick learn to throw straight, ahead of the receiver, and not under 8 feet high (at least 50% of time would be fine by me)! Mechanics, mechanics , mechanics……….

By Dave Norris

October 25, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this

Larry, Adrian - I couldn’t agree more.

Teams are catching up with Vick. Same ol’, same ol’ ain’t gonna cut it. He doesn’t see the receivers well and I don’t think you can coach this. Vick gives up on the route too quickly and, partly because of pressure, fails to check down consistently. Passes are behind the runner, low, high or coming in like a bullet. Last night he was just brutal. Look at the receivers on replays. They are always slowing down or diving for every pass or almost standing still after coming back towards him. How many times have you seen Michael hit a receiver in stride across the middle or down the sideline deep? “Rarely” is the appropriate response.

With that being said he is without a doubt the scariest man in the NFL for opposing teams. But they’re figuring it out - and getting faster.

The Falcons can resolve this but they won’t. Vick should be a slotback/halfback/receiver who takes snaps from time to time, a threat to go deep from either end of the pass. But…Vick cost too much and he can’t block. It’s also not obvious who would take over the position of QB. Schaub looks adequate but no more than that at this time.

No, we’re underway and the Falcons have to go with what they got. But he and his receivers seem to need far more repetitions than they’re getting now. The coaches can fix this.

By bill

October 25, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this

The problem with the Falcons offense: Michael Vick is the least accurate passer in the NFL. He throws balls, behind and over the heads of the receivers more often than other quarterbacks.

Terrence, your column should have mentioned this.

By Randy

October 25, 2005 10:15 AM | Link to this

Never re-visit the Dan Reeves ere. I was the happiest person on Earth when the Falcons Hired Mr. Reeves. Big mistake with the Smiths in charge. Thank God for our coaching staff. Rob, a little correction, not ALL are “punks” you young punk. I am 41 and have been a Falcon fan since their first day here. I love the winning, BUT Michael HAS to pass better. only 2 passes were thrown to Finneran, his best wide receiver this year. Algi made Michael look better than he was throwing. Here’s a thought that would terrify defensive co-ordinators; trade Dez and a couple of others to Pittsburgh for Hinz Ward. Run a split-T offense with Vick and Ward as the 2 half-backs, either Warrick or T.J. as fullback/running back, and have MAtt Schaub as QB. “Read” the defense and audible. Every play could be run, or HB option, or Schaub could pass. PS to Michael Vick, I still think you are the greatest athlete to play the game. Do yourself and the fans a favor, use your head, start thinking like a QB and lengthen your career. Run as a last resort, and REMEMBER a screen passis a “touch” pass, don’t throw a 150mph laser. (Poor Warrick)

By Randy

October 25, 2005 10:18 AM | Link to this

OOOPS!!!! I am 49!!!!!!

By David

October 25, 2005 10:22 AM | Link to this

We hear the coaches say continually that you “put the best players on the field”. Why then do we not put SCHAUB at quarterback and Vick at flanker? He can then run or throw on the run, the only kind of pass he can complete.

By chris deighan

October 25, 2005 10:42 AM | Link to this

Vick is hardly the best quarterback in the league, but he is the best player.

In a close game, with everything on the line, I’ll take my chances with a guy that can run or pass. The game-winning drive against N.O. was all Vick, but I guess everyone forgets that because it was all of nine days ago.

On top of that, he’s a good teammate. Despite all the media attention he gets, he never talks about “I” except when he screws up.

As for Tampa, Chicago and Carolina and their run-stuffing defense; Bring ‘em on!!

By LadyFalconFan

October 25, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

Michael Vick doesn’t have time to throw the ball in order to be an accurate passer. He has approximately 4 seconds before someone is in his face. The Falcons have had a severe problem with the OFFENSIVE line for a long time. Poor Chris Chandler kept a concussion…. Look how long Peyton Manning has to find a receiver…

Once the offensive line is in tact then we will really get a chance to see if Vick is an all around quarterback or whether or not he’s just an electrifying running quarterback. Either way… I love the excitement he brings to the game and I love MY FALCONS!!!

By lawdog85

October 25, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this

Well the truth be told not every pass that’s thrown by every quarterback in the NFL is thrown with pinpoint accurracy. And not every reciever is going to catch every pass! Even with his bad play last night, he needs help at wide reciever. Finn is not a number 1, he is a #3 at best. Vick has too take alot off his passes in order for Jenkins to at least make an attempt to catch the ball. Vick can throw the football with zip, behind, high, and into double coverage, and the only one can catch the ball is Crump 98% of time. The play calling could have been better. And the offensive Line has to do better job at pass protection, and I must admit they are improving! The reciever’s must get better separtion, I just wish that they will give Pathon a chance to show what he can do. Remember when he played with the Saints he was a major part in that offense. With that said I know the Falcons passing game will improve! And last but and not least every team has a identity Philly (passing)& (good D), Steelers (running)& (good D), Tampa (Defense), Carolina (Defense), the Patriots (balance), and now so is the Colts! These teams play too there strengths and win! So why are we as fans complaining. And to the gentleman who stated that we are not playing anybody that’s good! Look at the schedule all the teams we faced so far was in the play offs, and in the Superbowl last year! And we lost to the Champs by a margin of 3. points! And the NFC West Division Champs again by 3, but we should have won both of these games. Oh! And to all the fans that say we must have a passing game too go deep into the playoffs. Do any of you remember? The Baltimore Ravens they won a Superbowl with a great defense, and a outstanding running game!

By Gritz Blitz

October 25, 2005 10:52 AM | Link to this

If Vick could throw the ball effectively, he may be the best QB of all time. He wins 66% of his games now throwing innefectively, imagine if he could hit his receivers!

By Jim Feely

October 25, 2005 10:56 AM | Link to this

Let’s see if the buy helps Vick and this team? To beging with, Vick is too short, can’t read defenses, nor will he look to throw to Finneran, who in my opion can be a game maker if not a game breaker. Vick can’t see over those rushing linemen, and when blitzed, thinks with his feet instead of his mind. If Vick is the man this team is to build the fiture upon, there will be no dynasty, just the cult of Vick. I also don’t know that he is smart enough. His brother seems to be more together, and in all prbability will make a better General on the field

By johna

October 25, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

No doubt Vick needs to hit his receivers or they will not ever win a championship. One thing I will give him is this. When the game is on the line and he needs to put points on the board he will find a way to get it in the endzone. Out of all the Quarterbacks in the league he would be my pick when the game is no the line.

By John

October 25, 2005 10:58 AM | Link to this

I am so glad that someone finally mentioned the play calling. Greg Knapp is horrible. We never have that killer instinct on offense to put our opponent away early and take them out of their game plan. Also, the are several very questionable calls made by the “Modified Westcoast offensive guru”. Perfect example, last year in Tampa he called a passing play on the one yard line that was intercepted (mind you TJ Ducket is on the bench). The next week he gives to ball to TJ four time on the goal line. Go figure. I see why TO was shouting at him in SF!

By wes

October 25, 2005 11:11 AM | Link to this

Vick’s the starter and Schaub never will be “the guy” in Atlanta. there never will be “the Matt Schaub Experience”.

WIth that being said, I would like to see a little more creativity in our play-calling. It wasn’t necessary last night, but it will be needed down the road against these run-stuffers.

How ‘bout this? Mix it up. Of course, Vick starts, but have Schaub come in for a planned series in the 2nd quarter with Vick out at flanker as a decoy (or run the reverse with Vick and let him throw off that!). Give the other team headaches, but 1st and foremost, if your going to do something wild like this, you have got to execute it during practice…to a T!

Everyone says that the other teams’defensive coordinators are starting to figure Vick & Co out.

Let’s go Mora & Mr. Knapp. Let’s get those opposing defensive coordinators shakin’ in their boots again!

By CJ

October 25, 2005 11:12 AM | Link to this

Saying that Schaub is better than Michael Vick is saying that Schaub is better than Mcnabb, Favre, Bulger, Brooks, Delhomme, Culpepper, Brees, Gannon and the rest of the opposing quarterbacks that loss to the Falcons this past year. They all came, and they all fell. Schaub is good, but he ain’t Michael Vick. He ain’t even J.P. Losman, or Brien Greise! And if he was, then why is he still on the bench being a backup! What exactly has Schaub did in the past other than loose to Seattle and New Orleans and the Patriots in less than a year? Hey trust me he’s good and all, but he ain’t Michael Vick! You think the atmosphere would be the same? You think the dome would sell out? Would we even be on primetime 5 times in a year if Schaub was leading the way. Please! go watch golf or some paint dry or something. This is 2006 and people want to see Michael Vick. It’s all entertainment in the first place and that’s what he brings! Trust me passing is good and all, but you can’t just be a passer in the league and win. Many have tried it and many have succeeded, but they still ain’t Michael Vick! You also mentioned that he’s been in the league for 5 years now, and that sooner or later people are going to figure him out. Hey well I got news for you buddy, if ain’t happened yet, then it ain’t gone happen. People tried to figure out Michael Jordan. By the time they did, he had six championships!

By wes

October 25, 2005 11:15 AM | Link to this

Can you imagine the confusion in the locker room for other team’s defensive coordinator’s?

Having both Vick and Schaub out on the field at the same time…even for a simple handoff, more than likely puts the defense on its toes, rather than in the standard attack-kill mode.

Make them think harder on every play.

By HayzeBlu

October 25, 2005 11:50 AM | Link to this

First let me say that I luv the POTENTIAL of Mike Vick. He has the ability to affect the game like few before him. BUT, it is unrealistic to think that this team can be considered a contender at this point.

Vick needs better protection from his O-Line. The coordinators need to improve their offensive scheme. And Vick absolutely has to become a more accurate passer. No need to become Peyton Manning but he has to be able to keep defenses honest. And he is far from a good leader at this point. There are many times that his body language SCREAMS frustration. Luv him to death but I don’t know if I can go to war with a guy that cracks under pressure like that.

By Randy

October 25, 2005 11:55 AM | Link to this

CJ, you want that type of entertainment, watch professional wrestling. We’re talking football. All the other QB’s that you’re talking about Vick beating???? The Falcons beat them. As a matter of fact, Vick was ON THE BENCH when the other qb’s were on the field. As a QB, Schaub might just be better than the others, give him their teams and play them against the birds. Might be interesting.

By eric

October 25, 2005 12:07 PM | Link to this

Hye Kudzu…”oxymoronish” isn’t a word firstoff. Secondly, Vick does have a passing game. Have you ever checked out his stats at VT…I have. The kid can throw, and will throw. THEY ARE A RUSHING TEAM….how many times do I have to say it. Did you see Rothlesberger’s stats last week…news flash, Pittsburgh doesn’t pass much either, and they’re winning. Everyone lay off the “Vick needs to be passing more” crap, because it’s getting old.

By bryanfred

October 25, 2005 12:07 PM | Link to this

I don’t think anyone will argue that Vick needs to improve in the pocket. I watched him run out of well-protected pockets a couple of times last night, with sacks/ints as results, and even when he stays put he has happier feet than Fred Astaire. But focusing on QB rating, or even total yards, is not the right way to judge his performances. QB rating is based on completion percentage and yards, touchdowns and interceptions per attempt. Note the lack of rushing yards or touchdowns. Vick should be judged weekly on combined rushing and passing yards and touchdowns. Last night was a marginal performance by his standards - 134 total yards, 2 TDs, 3 INTs. What concerns me is that this total yard stat is coming down. In four other full games Vick played he averaged almost 200 total yards with 5 total touchdowns and 3 INTs. Last season it was 215, in 2002 (sat out most of 2003) almost 250. This says that teams are figuring him out, probably by stacking the box, but he can’t take advantage of more open secondaries. The Jets defense is really pretty good, but the Saints’ sure isn’t, and if this team’s going to make real noise in the playoff then low QB rating or not Vick has to find a way to get back to his former production.

By eric

October 25, 2005 12:18 PM | Link to this

why is anyone even talking about Matt Schaub. That’s like people in Pittsburgh talking about Tommy Maddox. yea, Schaub is better than Maddox- I know. But Vick is the guy. He breaks down defenses, he makes beautiful runs, and he leads the team. He’s part of the reason why they’re the #1 rushing team in the NFL. I really don’t even know why there is a debate of any kind. We’re 5-2, and that’s not easy to come by in the NFL. At this time during bye week last year, we were 6-2, and I don’t remember the complaints then. The year is still young, just be patient. But please, stop ripping #7, it’s getting real old.

By eric

October 25, 2005 12:24 PM | Link to this

How ‘bout the idiot that said use Vick as a flanker? Man c’mon, this guy got a $136 million dollar contract. “A FLANKER”…he’s a QB. Live with it. If you want pass…pass…pass, go watch the Eagles or Patriots. You know why those teams pass so much….they have no running game at all. Well the Falcons have a great running game, and there’s no need to load up on passing. Man, this is such a tired lame argument. Also, did you ever think that the inaccurate passing by Vick has something to do with some dropped passes by the WR’s ?

By Larry

October 25, 2005 12:33 PM | Link to this

eric,

I don’t think anyone here doesn’t realize this is a run first offense and with good reason it should be. I also don’t think many expect Vick to throw 300 yards often nor do they believe this is necessary for us to win.

I think the real issue is this: Can we pass the ball effective enough to win a super bowl over what we can expect to be a great defense?

Not a stellar passing game but at least a respectful one is what we’ll need to defeat a NFC Championship or Super Bowl caliber defense.

Agree?

By Randy

October 25, 2005 12:36 PM | Link to this

Eric, Eric, Eric, I’m NOT saying Vick needs to pass more, just more accurately. He needs to take off running a lot less.The President is our commander-in-chief, head of our country, he doesn’t fly to the front lines to lead us into battle and none ever has. Michael needs to lead this team and quit taking it all on himself to run for every yard he can get. (His term needs to be longer than 4 years.) Bryanfred hits the nail on the head. And last Eric, the inaccurat passing is not all the recerivers’s fault. Yes Pearless and Dez have dropped MANY very catchable balls out of their hands, but Biran and Algie have made many spectacular catches to balance that out. Every pass last night was too high, in the dirt, or a laser from 3 feet away.

By Randy

October 25, 2005 12:38 PM | Link to this

Well said, Larry. I most definitely agree.!!!

By Will

October 25, 2005 12:38 PM | Link to this

CJ, you must be smoking crack. It really amazes me sometimes the nonsense that people come out with. I don’t think Schaub should start, but when you say he’s not even J.P Losman it’s obvious that you’re biased. Come on man Is Vick your cousin? Is he putting money in your pocket? What’s the deal?? Just the fact that you mention Rich Gannon (Who’s out of Football!!) just illustrates your lack of football knowledge. Schaub almost beat the defending Super Bowl champions as a back up and he didn’t even know if he was going to play or not. I don’t care who your cousin is that’s pretty impressive. Have you seen J.P Losman?? Dude looks like he’ll be the third stringer at Life College!! Maybe that’s why he has been benched as of two weeks ago?? I don’t give a damn about what looks good, just give me someone who produces and put W’s in the Win Column. Now with that being said as good as Schaub has been when we needed him, Vick should start because he wins.. Period. However, I am sick of people making excuses for him for the lack of a passing game. I’ve heard everything from “Our receivers aren’t that good”, “Hey as long as we win” or “We don’t need a passing game because our run game is so good” Those might be the dumbest things I have ever heard….seriously the D.U.M.B.E.S.T. For this team to really advance to the next level the deficiency in the passing game has to be addressed and it starts with Vick. Vick has said that he is not a “Running Quarterback”, well get out there, go thru your progressions, anticipate your receivers’ routes and complete more than three passes to your receivers!! I don’t think you all understand, Vick’s passing game is not bad, it is anemic. Quite possibly the worst I have ever seen, and that will not do when it really counts. Does anyone remember Philly in the playoffs last year? What happens when a team stops the run against us? What then? Do not get fooled by Smoke and Mirrors, we were supposed to beat the Jets. There offense is horrible, their line has been revamped and Methuselah was playing quarterback. Yes 5-2 is better than 2-5 and I’m happy with that record going into the bye, but real fans notice the good and the bad of their football teams, it’s like how you love your kids but do don’t like everything they do. I need a coach or two to step up and not be afraid to Coach the “face of the franchise” because I like Vick and if he can get his passing a little above average he would be the scariest thing in football we will ever see. I just want him to reach his full potential…Bottomline!

By Evan

October 25, 2005 12:42 PM | Link to this

Just a little observation here, how long has Peyton Manning been in the league? He is suppose to be the besr pocket passer in the league. How many conference title games has he played in? In fact how many times have they have the Colts lost ther first game in the play offs. Pleaseeeeeee, give me a winning QB any time over a stats QB. Good QBs find way to win even when they are not putting up the stats.

Vick is the best QB the city has ever had. Have only lost one game this season when he was hurt. Yet still some people in this city it is not enough. He must put in the numbers as well. Now they are sudgesting that the back up QB who has not won a game should be starter or have him take some or the snaps. What planet are you people live on.

One last Question. How many Super Bowls Did Dan Marino win……….0 He had all the stats. Untill we lose on a regular basis with Vick has the QB then we can do without some peoples comments. Because a black man will never be good enough or smart enough to play QB.

By falcon guy

October 25, 2005 12:46 PM | Link to this

Vick had 3 int’s. I didn’t see one of them, but the other two were tipped balls that were very catchable. But only the QB gets dinged for int’s on his passer rating. If you want an example of why the Falcons are better with Vick at QB than Schaub see the Patiots game. In that game, w/o Vick, the Falcons were not able to establish their run game. Schaub passed for 298 yds but they lost the game. But with Vick in the game they control the clock, the pace of the game and they wear out defenses with the run game. He only needs to complete a few key passes to keep the ball moving. See Ben Rothlisberger. He doesn’t have to throw the ball 40 times to win. The Steelers pound their opponents into submission and throw a few well timed passes to keep it moving. The Falcons just need to cure the drops and call passes at the right time. Not sure what was going on last night though. Finneran, who is usually a favorite target of Vick had no catches. I don’t recall him dropping any, so he didn’t get it thrown his way. That may have been the Jets coverage or they didn’t call any plays for Finn. Get him involved more and the passing game will improve.

By bryanfred

October 25, 2005 12:50 PM | Link to this

Amen to that, falcon guy. Finn’s 6’ 5” for crying out loud - throw him a few mid-yardage jump balls!

By Randy

October 25, 2005 12:59 PM | Link to this

Evan, it has nothing to do with race, except to the racists trying to play that card. The ONLY scrambling QB to ever win the Super Bowl was Steve Young, and that was only because of the team around him. (Tarkenton, who is my facorite, lost 4, never won) Micahel needs to run less to stay healthy. Defenses are getting to him more. (See Bryanfred) The games the Birds have lost, in the past, with Michael starting, are to the teams with a fast defense to run him down, i.e. Tampa Bay in 2003, Philly last year, etc. I agree Brayunfred, but PLEASE, DON’T say “jump balls” to Michael, he threww 90% of his passes las night about 12 feet above the receivers!!!!!

By Eddie

October 25, 2005 01:07 PM | Link to this

Bottom line…..the Falcons are 5-2, we got two weeks to work on the passing game for Miami and our defense (for me the jury is still out on the rush defense)……..Hall continues to give up big plays and run his mouth….the DB’s don’t get their heads turned around fast enough (Keion Carpenter)to look for the ball, Coles almost made a spectacular catch between two defenders. The receivers can’t catch a cold butt naked in Antartica, Gregg Knapp continues to baffle me with some of the playcalling (against NE 3 straight passing plays from the 5 yard line, I’m sorry but I still can’t let it go) The real test is Chicago, they haven’t given up a rushing touchdown all year, we might not be able to pound them in Chicago (IT”S GOING TO BE COLD!!!!!!), we will definitely need some plays in the passing game. The Jets with that speed was able to lock in on Vick after the 1st quater, bottom line we still are 5-2 with 2 weeks to get healthy and prepare for the rest of the season. I can say this, I’m very impressed with our young talent in the front seven!!!!!

By Randy

October 25, 2005 01:12 PM | Link to this

With you all the way, Eddie.

By ct

October 25, 2005 01:13 PM | Link to this

All of your comments are very interesting and you have made good points. But I see the issue as the Falcons coaching team determining the best way to use a Michael Vick. He is very talented and I think he is smart, too. He is also humble. Don’t blame him for what the media does. They have tried to make Labran James an icon and he is just a child! (Yes, I know he is a basketball player but I am making a point about the media.)

Matt Schaub seems to be pretty good, but in my opinion, he is learning from Michael Vick. Just watch him. He imitates Vick. In that regard he is smart.

Some of your ideas about using Vick and Schaub together might not be a bad idea. Our goal as a team should be to use the strengths of our players to our advantage. Whatever it to takes to win is what we should do. But no matter what we do Michael Vick WILL and HAS to be a part of it.

Remember, at least one of the games we won with Schaub, Michael Vick had already set the momentum. Matt just ran with what had already been created so Michael should still get credit for his talent and leadership.

I am truly a Falcons fan and I LOVE Michael Vick. He is talented and electrifying but still young and HUMAN. Jump on the offensive coordinator and the offensive line to give Vick more protection so he doesn’t have to run for his life to make a pass or to gain yardage. I think he does well under pressure. He comes through in crunch time.

Don’t fret though. Our owner, Arthur Blank is a WINNER. He will make sure we have the players we need to win. Lay off Michael. He will be fine and so will the FALCONS. We will WIN!!! GO FALCONS!!

By Shiney

October 25, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

FLACONS NED 2 TRAYED VICK AND PALY SCWAUB INSTED EVERY 1 NO THAT VICK IS A RB AND NOT A QB SCWAUB ALREADY SHO HE CAN THREW THE BALL MR BLANKS PLEEZ TRAYED VICK NOW

By CJ

October 25, 2005 01:23 PM | Link to this

Hey Randy and Will, if you take your mouse and scroll up to my comment, you’ll actually see where I said that those other quaterbacks fell to the Falcon’s and not Michael Vick. And yes your right Michael was sitting “ON THE BENCH” when the opposing quaterback was on the field. Give yourself a pat on the back. I applaud your intuitive observation! I also happen to notice that he was sitting RIGHT NEXT TO SCHAUB, “ON THE BENCH”. Also, in your comment you mentioned that if you “gaveâ€? Schaub the other QBs team then he might be better than the rest. There’s only one problem with those other QBs, they actually earned their starting position. That’s why there’s college football and the NFL Draft. Schaub had the same opportunity as other NFL QB’s to become a starting QB somewhere and it started in college. He was on the same plan as Michael Vick. Vick earned his position, fair and square! Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning and other 1st round picks respectively, earned their position fair and square. Vick proves that he wins as an NFL Quartback! True enough Schaub might be better than those other QBs, but at the same time his starting record does not reflect it, and for him to go somewhere else and beat out another starting QB for their position. He has to be Michael Vick! You can’t even beat them with your own team that ran the same offense you ran in college. How in the heck are going to go into someone elses system and learn what they already know and beat them. Man Please! Just sit back and enjoy those highlights of the Falcons and the “INCOMPARABLE MIKE VICKâ€? that was running all morning on ESPN. Either that or go watch Sesame Street. I heard that Big Bird and Matt Schaub were about the same height. Maybe he can beat “itâ€? out for a starting job. Hey by the way, Will, it’s Collin’s that Schaub isn’t better than not Gannon. Although he did play last year until Collins took over. If it makes it any better!

By bigbelly

October 25, 2005 01:36 PM | Link to this

To hear some of you complain, I’m sure you yearn, as I do,for the days-gone-by of Chris Miller, Jeff George, and that most unstoppable of offenses; the Run-N-Shoot.So many passing yards, so many points; so little wins. Not like this Vick guy, huh. He sails passes over receivers heads,throws 3 foot missiles into his receivers chests, runs too much; wins 66% of his games. Heck, the only time he seems to know how to pass the ball is,what,in the fourth quarter when the game is on the line? I agree; we won’t make it far in the playoffs if this keeps up. Last year we only went to the NFC Championship Game. I don’t know about you, but I expect more from a guy only in his second year as full time starter and in his first year in a new offense. After that wonderful 2003 campaign, in which he was hurt before the season started, and we reeled off 2 victories in our first 12 games!! Then he had to come back for the last 4 games and ruin our chances to go deep in the playoffs by going 3 and 1!!! That’s what happens when you’re not a pure pocket passer, like Chris and George were.Man, I miss those guys!!!!

By ct

October 25, 2005 01:44 PM | Link to this

Chris who? Trade Vick? You guys need to concentrate on your proofreading. Then maybe you’ll make more sense!

By Evan

October 25, 2005 01:46 PM | Link to this

I am with you on that one bigbelly

By Catch222

October 25, 2005 01:50 PM | Link to this

Being an Atl. native and Falcon fan forever I’m really excited and proud about our 5-2 record. Short and sweet observations: We all admit problems with the passing game. Vick AND the receivers are playing at about 50% of where they should be. It’s gonna bite us if we don’t get it right, real soon. The Defense: Luv Kerney, Coleman, Brooking and most of the others, great job. However, Webster is KILLING us on pass defense. GET HIM FIXED!!!

By Shiney

October 25, 2005 01:52 PM | Link to this

U R WRITE NO WAY CAN MR BLANKS TRAYED VICK CUZ HE IS NOT N E GOOD AND OTHER TEAMS NO THAT SO WHAT WE R 5-2 SCWAUB WOOD HAVE US AT 8-0 BY NOW. WE CANT CUT VICK CUZ OF HIS SALAD CAP HIT WE ARE IN TRUBLE IF VICK KEEPS PALYING QB I SEY LINE VICK UP AT WR NEXT TO FINNERMAN THEN WE WIN SOME GAMES 2 BAD THIS SEASON IS LOST ALREADY.

By Kudzu

October 25, 2005 01:58 PM | Link to this

Rob D, uh, no disrespect dude, but are you old enough to be a loyal fan? What is a loyal fan? I believe you were like maybe a teenager during the last non-televised home game

Vick, as I’ve said before, is doing his best to be a passing QB, WE ARE SEEING THE BEST OF HIM. But nobody in Falcon country has the backbone to admit that he can’t pass. I’m waiting for him to prove me wrong and shut me to he** up; but he hasn’t and can’t.

What do we need (star) receivers for if 8 out of 10 throws are not accurate?

The Falcons should have scored 40 plus points last night. Jenkins had his man beat in the end zone and Vick threw the ball to the one yard line. Then Jenkins nealry breaks his leg trying to catch another errant throw. Good grief…

Somebody give a shout out to the O line and Mr.Dunn and #33.

I think Coach Mora needs a little (smelling activity) on the sidelines cause he can’t bear to watch.

By Randy

October 25, 2005 02:02 PM | Link to this

CJ, bigbelly and catch222, you’re all great, Again, let me say, I’m NOT against Michael, he is the greatest athlete in the game, and I do stand corrected, CJ on the other Qbs defeats, you did state that the Falcons beat them. All of the lucis FOOTBALL points are good, the ludicrous, trad Vick, trade Schaub, fire coaches, are ridiculous. My only bone of contention is that Michael needs to think , react and develop more “quarterback”-like reactions and pass THEN run out of danger, not run first, nad develop more touch and accuracy on his passes. Who-ever is QB, we want them to last a long time. We need no more “glass” qb’s like Bartkowski, Chandler etc. and NO incompetent rifle -arms like George.

By Dawgssuck

October 25, 2005 02:06 PM | Link to this

ok, my turn. Has anyone noticed, like with the pass to Finneran in the second quarter that bounced out of his arms and the absolute rocket he zoomed to Crumpler in the third that got knocked loose as soon as he was hit, how FAST Vick is throwing the ball? It has got to hurt. But anyway, Vick is not a bad passer, and the wideouts arent bad either, it is a timing problem. The only problem is that we have run out of time to be concerned about the timing and the routes run by this offense. Fix it and fix it now or we will be in trouble. Hey, has anyone mentioned Justin Griffith yet? Awesome job. Go Falcons!!

By bigbelly

October 25, 2005 02:11 PM | Link to this

Note to Shiney: 5 + 2 < 8 (that little thingee between the 2 and the 8 means “less than”).

By ct

October 25, 2005 02:15 PM | Link to this

Randy, you’re making some sense. As for some of the other comments from the Falcon football “experts”, I’ve enjoyed my trip to Mars with you today. But I’m headed back to Earth. See ya when you figure things out! GO FALCONS and MICHAEL VICK! ZOOOOMMMMM!! (WAVE)

By Randy

October 25, 2005 02:19 PM | Link to this

Hasta la winnebago, my friend.

By eric

October 25, 2005 02:38 PM | Link to this

Kudzu, I completely diagree. You are NOy seeing the best of Mike Vick. Even Mike Vick has said this. He said he had a bad passing game last night. And Larry & Randy, I do agree with you. I too would like to see more accurate passes. But Finn dropped a beauty last night, that would have been a big game. And the one where Jenkins limped off, that too should have been caught. Vick is ONLY in his 3rd season as staring QB. 00-‘01 -backup ‘02-‘03- Playoffs ‘03’04-HURT ‘04-‘05-NFC Chamipionships

…give the kid time, please

By Eddie

October 25, 2005 02:42 PM | Link to this

Maybe we are throwing the ball too much….lookin at Big Ben in Pittsburgh, he only has 100 pass attempts on the season, (14 in that beating of Cinncinatti, Vick had 26 last night) Vick has 126; I look at Pittsburgh they have the number 2 rushing attack behind us of course, they don’t ask Big Ben to do a lot. They run the football and they play good defense, they rarely throw on first down, which I think we do entirely too much. Our personality is pounding you with the running game, rushing the passer, let Vick manage the game and getting takeaways on defense. I honestly feel the offensive coordinator might be our biggest obstacle in getting to the SB.

By Randy

October 25, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this

I hope you’re wrong, Eddie. I hope it’s just a maruting process for all involved.

By Shiney

October 25, 2005 02:56 PM | Link to this

NOTE 2 BIGBELLY I NO MY MATH AND I NO MY FOTBALL AND I NO MORE THEN U!

By Rob D

October 25, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

For all you guys that got offended by me calling you punks, why are you so bitter and defensive? Take a joke, this is all for fun(for most of us at least.)But since my last post, I have heard the young Mora speak, and like he said its human nature for people to not be satisified. Its true, the Falcons could get to the SuperBowl and their would be a fraction of people who would still complain about something. So, for all of you souls that I see every home game keeping the Dome rocking, and all the fans at home supporting the team keep on keeping on. You can criticize and complain all day, just as long as when it comes time to line up behind the home team you are all there cheering them to victory.

By lawton

October 25, 2005 03:17 PM | Link to this

i told u folks its mainly the west coast offense. like tb said, vick had good numbers under reaves, who by the way is a running oriented coach. so, how can reaves do better with vick (and even fired his quarterback coach for not helping vick), and the west coast guy knapp and mora cant do nothing. the west coast crap is fun non athletic type quarterbacks, period.

By ct

October 25, 2005 03:33 PM | Link to this

Thanks RD!!! I zoomed back just in time to read your comments. YOU put things into perspective! I agree with you, too lawton. Zoooommmmm! (Wave)

By JEFFREY

October 25, 2005 03:36 PM | Link to this

This is city suck when it come to fans. I dont like to pull the race card but i’m tired of white guys hating on Vick stats. Stats are for losers to hold on to because they never get the wins. Guys like Peyton and Marino. Its like you guys are never satisfied. IF birds Lose blame Vick. Win, bash the guy becuse he dont get 300 yrds passing. I’m not saying that he cant improve but shut up and take the win. Oh yeah I’m old school and I was taught if the ball hit your hand, its catchable and good recivers follow that philosophy and make those plays that balls touch their hand which are often drop by jenkins, d. white, and I even saw Finn drop one over the middle last night( which Madden even commented on the Drop). Bottom line Stop hating on Vick stats on look at the games he along with a solid teams win.

By Shiney

October 25, 2005 03:43 PM | Link to this

Y U SAY ONLY WHITE GUYS HATE ON VICK I DON HATE VICK I JUST THING HE IS NOT N E GOOD HE BE BETER AT WR

By PreyDawg

October 25, 2005 04:14 PM | Link to this

Some of you guys and gals amaze me. About three or four people on this board get it. You all keep going back to the same old tired Vick excuses no matter what points are made. I gave you a good theory on why Mike is struggling this year above. Everybody ignored that.

I cant answer all individually but one thing I think we can all agree on is we all want to see Vick succeed. I would love to see a Falcon in the Hall of Fame one day.

Those that blame last night on wide recievers were not paying attention. Compare number of passes thrown VERY poorly to number of passes dropped. I only counted 3 drops. Jenkins did not drop a good pass. He got hurt diving for a terrible pass.

Those that want to compare Peyton Manning. Manning makes a decision and throws the ball almost always in less than 4 seconds. The reason he is the least sacked QB is only partly due to his O-line. A great deal has to do with his quickly throwing a good pass. I love Vick as our QB but there is NO comparison between these two at this point. True Vick has played in a Championship game and Manning has not. That says much more about the tough AFC than about the two players. The NFC is simply not as strong.

I still wear my Vick jersey with pride but he has MUCH work to do. I think he realizes it and I’ll bet he will do it.

Everything obviously is not his fault but alot is.

By Miles

October 25, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

I cant believe some people are pulling out the race card with regards to white people “hating” vick. It has nothing to do with that, fact is Vick is one of the worst passers in the league right now. He started off the season so well where he actually was showing confidence from the pocket and going through all of his reads. Ever since the injury, he now appears to be rushing through his reads and sometimes even failing to go through a single read in favor of scrambling. I honestly think the pressure of expecations is getting to him because he’s trying too hard to be perfect and its causing some mental errors. Vick is determined to prove his worth to his peers and the fans who feel he is overrated and now he is no longer going with the flow of the game like he once did. Hes become too mechanical with the way he passes the ball similiar to Harrington and Carr. Vick needs to get his head straight over the bye week and play like its a new season against Miami. I have not lost faith him like other people because I know he has the ability to become a good qb. He has a great arm, a quick release, great scrambling ability and is a proven leader. Vick needs to just put a little more touch on the ball and not force passes to crumpler in triple coverage, show some more confidence in the wide receivers. The west coast offense takes 3 or 4 years to learn according to coaches around the league and its still up for debate whether this system will ever work with Vick but the bottom line is we are 5-2, not 2-5 and the Falcons have yet to play their best football and Vick will lead the way in the 2nd half of the season because he wants to improve just as much as we want him to.

By daniel

October 25, 2005 04:45 PM | Link to this

the closer role: put schaub in when the falcons have a late lead. he’s more of an accurate passer, and all he needs to do is complete short passes, and run down the clock. vick gets the win, schaub the save.

By Smith

October 25, 2005 04:57 PM | Link to this

Vick is the most exciting player in the NFL, but he is not the best QB. Given the opportunity Schaub could be one on the better QB’s in the game today. With Vick as a WR catching passes in the open field and using his running ability to escape would-be tacklers, the Falcons would out score any opponent in the league(if they haven’t changed the rules, scoring more points than your opponent is the object of the game). This also sets up the option pass and straight runs by Vick. With Schuab’s calm demeanor and accurate passing coupled with Vick as a reciever/runner/passer it would be nightmarish for any defense.

One final note about the Pats loss. Schaub did not lose the game the defense lost that one. Anytime the defense gives up 21 points in nine plays or less it is almost impossible to win. Maybe some of you forgot the first Pats possession of the second half was three plays and a touchdown. The same scenario happened three times during that game. That’s not Schaub’s or the offense’s fault.

By eric

October 25, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this

“fun non athletic-type QB’s” huh, wow…so that means that Joe Montana & Steve Young were fun non athletic QB’s. Wow…u need some football knowledge. Even McNabb runs a West Coast style game in Philly. You’re missing the boat big time, Lawton.

By eric

October 25, 2005 05:02 PM | Link to this

Hey Miles….the falcons have the #1 Rushing offense in the NFL. There is NO need to pass. Look at the Steelers, they don’t pass much and win games. Open your eyes. This is a silly and dumb argument. the falcons are 5-2, Vick wins games. PASS THIS!!

By eric

October 25, 2005 05:05 PM | Link to this

…also, if u want to get right down to it, the Falcons could use some veteran wide outs in the off season. All this passing crap you can’t dump entirely on MV. It would help to have some really gifted WR’s. Look what TO did for Mc-FLAB last year. And BTW, the Eagles have no running game, and no-one there is complaining that they’re a one-dimensional team.

By Eddie

October 25, 2005 05:24 PM | Link to this

Smith I disagree with you about who lost the game to the Patriots. Although the Defense played terrible in the 1st and 3rd quaters, the difference in the game was the play calling from the 5 yard line, when we ended up kicking a field goal instead of getting onto the end zone. With the number 1 rushing attack, and a healthy T.J. Duckett, you pound the ball in from the 5 yard line. I strongly feel, I hope I’m wrong, Gregg Knapp will cost us the a chance to play and win a Super Bowl unless he changes his philosopy to fit the personality of our football team. We’re a tough, physical pound the ball down your throat football team.

By Smith

October 25, 2005 05:57 PM | Link to this

Eddie, I agree with you about Knapp’s play selection and we should have pounded the ball into the end zone. If that would have happened we would have won by one point. But, the fact remains our defense gave up 21 points without a fight. Instead of losing by three points we should have won by 17 points or more.

By chris

October 25, 2005 06:07 PM | Link to this

I think Miles hit the nail on the head.Vicks problem right now is trying to prove people wrong instead of going with the flow.Its alot of pressure on him when people are steady commenting on what he cannot do.You tend to concentrate a little too much instead of letting things come natural,and everybody knows his natural ability.Hey you know who is probably enjoying Vick-Bashing more than anybody right now,Jason Webster.

By Scott

October 25, 2005 06:39 PM | Link to this

However, Falcons quarterback Michael Vick (11 of 26, 116 yards)

. Vick’s two fourth-quarter interceptions â€â€? he had a career-high three total â€â€?

Vick ran for two scores, but the blame for the meager number of completions to wide receivers (three) can’t be laid at their feet, as Vick was rarely on target when he did throw the ball their way. Flanker Michael Jenkins injured a knee in the third quarter reaching for a pass thrown behind him, and he did not return. …………………………….

WEAK NUMBERS. INTERCEPTIONS, EXCUSES. NOW THE WIDE RECEIVERS ARE GETTING HURT JUST TRYING TO CATCH VICKS ROCKETS BEHIND THEM.

WILL THIS NEVER END.

IT WILL WHEN WE PLAY GOOD TEAMS. PLAYOFFS ARE A JOKE FOR THE FALCONS. THEY WONT GET PAST THE FIRST ROUND

By DIRRTYBIRD

October 25, 2005 06:57 PM | Link to this

Vick is not even the guy running the ball all over the place. What is everyone up in arms about. Be mad at Dunn if you think we’re running too much. Has there ever been a better rushing team in the NFL than this? We should be passing less, and just more efficiently. Nobody can stop our run. Defenses are forced to play out on the edges, which opens up holes in the middle. It’s not always pretty, but the playoffs are a long ways away, and there is plenty of time for improvement. Tampa will get beaten, and the Panthers have never beaten Vick. We need to look for home field advantage, as that will help us more than 300 yard passing games.

By eric

October 25, 2005 06:59 PM | Link to this

Hey Scott, you’re dead wrong. A few people on ESPN are already picking the falcons for not only the Playoffs, but also the Superbowl. They stopped Curtis Martin last night, their run game is still tops, why the complaints? You people are a bunch of winers. Who are you picking for the playoffs….the Eagles…with no running game??

By DIRRTYBIRD

October 25, 2005 07:50 PM | Link to this

Falcons haven’t had many problems getting past the first round the past two times Vick has taken them there. I bet you felt stupid eating your words then, but not as stupid as you will feel this year when they do it again. We’re chasing home field advantage, remember that.

By Larry

October 25, 2005 08:13 PM | Link to this

Hey Shiney,

Did you attend Auburn?

By Scott

October 25, 2005 08:15 PM | Link to this

WHY DONT VICK THROW IT SLOWER WITH TOUCH ON HIS PASSES ?

HE CAN’T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND EVERYTIME IN THE PAST HE HAS TRIED TO THROW SLOWER HE GETS INTERCEPTIONS. VICK WILL NEVER IMPROVE HIS PASSING GAME. IF YOU THINK THAT RUNNING OUT OF THE POCKET IN LESS THAN 4 SECONDS WILL GET VICK IN THE HALL OF FAME, THEN THERE IS NO HOPE FOR YOU

IF HE PASS WITH TOUCH HE WOULD, IS THAT SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU MORONS TO UNDERSTAND.

ROCKET MAN VICK TRIED TO THROW QUICK THEN SLOWED IT DOWN LOOKED LIKE A CLOWN,

By eric

October 25, 2005 09:35 PM | Link to this

scott, you’re calling us morons with that kind of grammar. Please my friend, less on the CAPS, better grammar, and perhaps some better football knowledge, then we will take you seriously.

By Mark

October 25, 2005 10:55 PM | Link to this

Why are you people complaining?? The Falcons are 5-2 and it’s only the half-way point. I think the bye-week will help the team rest up some wounds and clear their minds. And this bye-week couldn’t have come at a better time. I think Vick will get better as the season progresses. Remember you guys, Steve Young needed about 4 years to really catch on to the “West Coast” offense. Vick needs time in this new system. Just be patient and he will become more effective. Imagine how good Vick will be once he is efficient in using both his arms and legs.. Pretty scary though for the rest of the NFL, huh?? Don’t sweat it people!! I think the best is yet to come.

Now the game I’m looking forward to is the Novemember game in Chicago againt that stingy Bears defense.. I wonder how many rushing TDs that DVD combo will have against them? You look at stats and it doesn’t really mount to anything when the opposing teams are actually facing the Falcons on the field. Most teams are finding out (if they haven’t already) that Vick is a lot faster than he appears on film.

So sit back folks, and relax!! We have another great half of football coming out. May the birds fly all the way to the SuperBowl!!! Go Falcons!!! :)

By Larry

October 26, 2005 10:51 AM | Link to this

Folks,

This is not complicated. Vick is a 5 year NFL veteran quarterback.

This is not primarily about how many years he’s started, how many years in this offense, how good his wideouts are, how good his O-line is, or any other reason or excuse.

There are two simple concerns here:

1. With protection, of course, Vick’s ability to stay poised in the pocket, read the coverage, and throw to an NFL receiver. Not easy, but simple.

2. And, upon the above, Vick’s ability to deliver the ball acurately to an open receiver. Again. not easy.

These two simple tasks above are what is keeping Vick from becoming a “complete” NFL quarterback.

The “experts” know this, and Vick knows this. This is why he is badly missing easy tosses—he lacks confidence as a passer!

The only real question here is can we expect Vick to become a better passer—not “thrower” of the football?

In my opinion, because of his obvious lack of confidence—you can see this with his footwork and aiming the football at wide open receivers—he hasn’t improve as a “passer” a lick!

By Scott

October 26, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this

ERIC

I KNOW MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL IN MY LITTLE FINGER THAN YOU HAVE IN YOUR WHOLE PEAHEAD.

LARRY

AGREE WITH YOU .

VICK WAS RUNNING FASTER FASTER, NO WHERE ELSE FOR HIM TO GO, THEN HE DECIDED TO START PASSING INTERCEPTIONS EVER LASTING.

By Randall

October 26, 2005 12:52 PM | Link to this

The Falcons flawed? The whole NFL is flawed. Is that parity?

By eric

October 26, 2005 01:20 PM | Link to this

Scott, your posts reveal you know precious little about football or the Falcons. Plus THE CAPS HURTS PEOPLES EYES…lay off em’. How ‘bout these idiots who say use Schaub as a QB and Vick as a running back. Yeah, there’s a real brilliant idea. Check your IQ before you leave a message.

By Shiney

October 26, 2005 01:21 PM | Link to this

I AINT NEVER GOED TO COLLAGE SO NO I NEVER BEENED TO ABURN Y U ASK?

By Matthew

October 26, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this

SCOTT, I LOVE YOUR GRAMMAR, MORON.

By Matthew

October 26, 2005 01:28 PM | Link to this

SCOTT…HEY IDIOT, WHAT DOES “INTERCEPTIONS EVER LASTING” MEAN? YOU MUST STILL BE IN 3RD GRADE, ASSWIPE.

By DbleD23

October 26, 2005 05:18 PM | Link to this

Y’all wouldn’t even be here talking about the Falcons if it weren’t for Vick. Critisize him as you feel, without him, who would care?.

By Scott

October 26, 2005 08:53 PM | Link to this

MATTHEW LOVE VICK

VICK LOVE MATTHEW

MATTHEW BUY TEXACO

VICK RON MEXICO

By Matthew

October 26, 2005 11:50 PM | Link to this

SCOTT = BIG IDIOT

By John

October 27, 2005 04:58 PM | Link to this

One thing seems clear: People either love or hate a successful running quarterback. The excuse is not mobility either, when Donte Culpepper scrambled for a big gain on the right sideline I heard one of the commentators say “It dosen’t seem fair when your quarterback can run like that.” When Brett favre picks up yards on the ground he is “smart” and “fearless”, but when one of the new generation of quarterbacks does what he does he is considered “athletic” or “one diminsional”. The true fans of the game don’t really care about the color of a mans’ skin, but yet the content of his game. There are a is a small segment of the football community in Atlanta who refuses to show support to young running quarterbacks. You pestimistic want ta be offensive coordinators are doing youself and most likely your kids a disservice, because I know your kids love to see a quarterback escape a ‘coverage sack’ when all the recievers are coverd down field and then run half the distance of the field in less than 5 seconds… Man, how can you not jump up off of the couch for that?… he should have thrown the ball away?…that’s not what the quarterback position is for?

By Mark

November 1, 2005 11:43 AM | Link to this

Thanks for that comment John. It is a pity that Atlanta just can’t be totally satisfied with a quarterback who “WINS GAMES”. We are 5-2, and that is a damn good record going into the bye week. For you Mike Vick critics out there, GET A GRIP!! No quarterback in the league is perfect. I couldn’t blame coach Mora one bit for going off on the New York media while he was up there in the Meadowlands. I thought it was funny when he told the NY media “Why can’t Peyton be a quarterback like Vick is?” Individual stats in the league means absoultely nothing to me. The only stat that should matter folks is the number that appears in the WIN COLUMN!! Like I said in my earlier comment.. it takes more time than people think to get used to learning a “West Coast” offense. If you don’t believe me ask Montana or Steve Young, or any other quarterback who runs that same identical offense. You people expect Vick to be a miracle passer! Let’s be real people!! Everything in the NFL takes time to learn. Maybe we should also remember that Vick is still playing with a bad knee and hamstring that is still healing up. Injuries can affect performance.

In the meanwhile sit back and watch the Falcons win more games. I’m hoping we will have enough wins to get home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Now that something that ALL Falcons fans should look forward to!!

By Robert Sagoes

November 2, 2005 10:14 AM | Link to this

Well only time will tell. Faith, we have to have faith in the Birds to play their best and the Staff to call a good game. At 5-2 I like the thought of back to back winning seasons~~