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Fulmer vs. Meyer? That’s a hoot
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Before we get to this week’s Phil Fulmer jokes, an important document has been obtained by the Web site, “The Smoking Gun.�
According to an employee handbook entered into evidence in a recent federal lawsuit, it seems all potential “Hooters� girls must sign a statement that reads, in part, sort of, “Nobody cares what color your eyes are.�
Quoting from the actual document: “I hereby acknowledge and affirm that … the Hooters concept is based on female sex appeal and the work environment is one in which joking and innuendo based on female sex appeal is commonplace. I also expressly acknowledge and affirm I do not find my job duties, uniform requirements or work environment to be offensive, intimidating, hostile or unwelcome.â€?
I bring this up for two reasons: 1) I’m a guy; 2) I’m always impressed when somebody basically says, “This is who we are. I can’t lie. Accidentally spill this water pitcher on your shirt.�
OK. Transition.
Florida coach Urban Meyer, like Hooters, really needs to just come clean. He has tried to say the right things this week regarding Phil Fulmer. But on the Monday preceding the Florida-Tennessee game, he should’ve just distributed a statement that read: “I’ve get a better chance of being outcoached by a kumquat.�
This is an actual quote from Meyer on the Volunteers: “They’re not a team that will wow you with scheme. They’re a team that wows you with personnel.�
Break that down any way you want. Here’s my translation: “Gameplan? I’ve never seen a coach do so little with so much. I’m sorry. Was I supposed to talk about the color of his eyes?� (I just got a vision of Fulmer in shiny orange shorts. I think I’m going to be sick.)
So this week, it’s the Gators and Vols. Fulmer already has changed starting quarterbacks. After one game. Against UAB.
The line says Florida by six.
Look into my eyes: Gators cover.
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Louisiana-Monroe at Trembling Chihuahuas
Yeah, they’re not psyched out by Steve Spurrier. OK, whatever. Georgia didn’t score 18 let alone cover 18 against South Carolina. Wait until the Dogs find out ULM coach Charlie Weatherbie is Spurrier’s third cousin. (So I hear. Pass it on.) Georgia wins but take 38 and the other guys.
Connecticut at Tech
UConn prepped for this game by beating up on Buffalo and Liberty. Unfortunately, this week’s scheduled opponent, the Montessori School, backed out of the game because it conflicted with a trip to the dinosaur museum. The Jackets — in the rare air of 2-0 and 15-point favorites — cover.
FSU at Boston College
B.C. coach Tom O’Brien responded to cracks that his plodders can’t keep up with faster ACC athletes by joking: “It’s going to be us Clydesdales vs. them thoroughbreds, I guess.” Fortunately, the Seminoles mostly run in claiming races these days. Noles squeak by; give up the point.
Arkansas at the Real USC
The Razorbacks’ defense just made a Vanderbilt quarterback look like Matt Leinert. So what are they going to make Matt Leinert look like? Duck. Troy covers 31.
Alabama at South Carolina
Bammy quarterback said this week of Spurrier, “All he can do is coach.” Question: Where does that leave Mike Shula? Take the gift two — and Carolina in a straight upset.
Miami at Clemson
The Canes have had two weeks to think about throwing away a game in Tallahassee. The last time they started a season 0-2, Lou Saban was fired and the program went in a new direction with Howard Schnellenberger and a briefcase full of unmarked bills, safely laundered in Bolivia. Miami covers the seven.
Dept of Hindsight: Straight up: 5-1 last week, 10-3 overall. Spreadables: 2-4 last week, 6-7 overall. Rock-paper-scissors: 12-6-2. Weekend Predictions Bookclub: Purchase any three selections and win a copy of Jerry Glanville’s new book, “Aloha Means I Still Coach Like Crap.”
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By Matthew
September 15, 2005 10:20 PM | Link to this
Jeff,
Urban Myth’s gimmick offense doesn’t stand a chance in a SEC full of athletic parity, especially on defense.
How about this, Jeff?
I’ve never seen a coach given so much press, been fawned over by so many media outlets without having done a damn thing.
His Utah team would have been creamed by any number of teams last year, but lucked out in playing Pitt, who won the “The Big East Sucks Now” Automatic BCS bid. This includes Georgia, Tennessee, Cal, Texas, USC, Michigan, Ohio St, Purdue, Iowa, Oklahoma, Miami, and especially Auburn.
This guy is overrated and an Urban Myth until he proves otherwise. Let’s see how he does vs. real football teams in a real conferece.
My money is on a team that plays physical, and doesn’t prance around the field in a snazzy offense.
Tennessee. Take it to the bank. And take Georgia at the Cocktail Party.
Now, I hate Fat Phil, like every Dawg should. I hate a cheater who rats out his cheating compatriots in a secret backroom deal with the NCAA. A hate a hypocrite like that. And he really is a pumpkin when it comes to gameplanning. But at least he’s proven his worth in the SEC, as has Richt, as has Nutt, as did Saban, and yeah, even Tubby down in Auburn has, though with that group, he would have been hanged if he didn’t win.
Urban Myth, hasn’t proven jack s—t yet.
And the fawning media just p** me off!
By feng_shui_ed
September 15, 2005 10:21 PM | Link to this
Jeff, Very funny…..you gotta love it. Thanks, edp
By Clete
September 15, 2005 11:31 PM | Link to this
Funny article Jeff, which is what you do best. Come to think of it, that’s pretty much all you can do, as far as I’ve seen. At any rate, I can’t stand Phat Phil and the Volunqueers. But I have to agree with Matthew. Winning at Utah is about like winning at Boise State. All of the talk from Urban and the butt kissing press don’t mean squat to me. Urban Myer (or however you spell his name) is going to have to prove himself to SEC football fans. Show me the record after two years of SEC play, and then I’ll decide if gonna show Urban any respect.
By geechee
September 15, 2005 11:57 PM | Link to this
Lost in your argument Jeff is the incredible motivational tool you have created for 11 SEC coaches.
Painting a mental picture of phat Phil wearing the little tank top, the orange shorts, and the panty hose has got to make Neyland stadium seem just a tad less intimidating from this point forward.
By WN
September 16, 2005 12:00 AM | Link to this
i think the jury on UM is still out, but he did do nice jobs at his last 2 schools, understanding of course that they were in C- conferences. the media is licking his johnson though. i think if he does turn out to be good, dawg fans will hate him more than Fat Phil, UM is a jerk. Flat out he is a total p****** and is arrogant as any top NFL wide receiver. I hate Spurrier but love him in the game, if UM gets it going i’m going to hate listening to his poop don’t stink attitude. i think Vols find their way this weekend, this game usually ends up opposite of the way people think it will and i think that means the Vols pull it out. Then they go get whooped by LSU.
By bill
September 16, 2005 12:27 AM | Link to this
Matthew,take off your red and balck sunglasses for a minute.Meyer has been a success everywhere he’s been.In addition to Pitt,he administered whippings to Texas A&M and North Carolina.
He runs a disipilined program.UF had no,repeat no player arrests during the off-season.Can UGA say the same?
I personally think UT will win Saturday.If you look back it usally takes the second year before his teams really pick up the offense.
Just one more history note.In 1990 a coach came to the SEC from a school in a weak confrence.Everyone said his gimmick offense would not work in the smash mouth SEC.The howls intensified after his first team lost 41-3 at Tennessee.
Do you remember his name?
By geechee
September 16, 2005 12:41 AM | Link to this
Could his initials have been SS?
By Michael
September 16, 2005 02:19 AM | Link to this
Dang, we’re the Trembling Chihuahuas after we WON? I hate to see what you are going to call us after we actually lose a game…
As for Urban Legend and the comparison to Steve Spurrier…the big difference there is that in 1990, nobody in the SEC had seen Spurrier’s gimmick offense before. Newsflash: It’s now 2005. The rest of the SEC has had 15 years to figure out how to stop the passing game, and Urban Legend is no Steve Superior, no matter how many times he points and stares.
That being said, I think UF wins this one if only because it’s in Gainesville and Tennessee can’t figure out who’s going to take the snaps. But the Urban Legend will be turned into the Urban Myth soon enough.
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 02:32 AM | Link to this
You have no idea about historical relevance.
Plus, if you were reading the blogs last week, you would have seen me praise the Visored C** for bringing not only the forward pass into the SEC, but PARITY because of said forward pass.
This isn’t the SEC of 1990.
This is a SEC in which every team plays a pro style offense.
Where every defense has seen spread offenses in their own scrimages.
Where the athletes on defense have gotten so good, they can read and react to everything you throw at them.
Urban Myth’s little p—-y offense is not physical. It doesn’t make a defense pay with a strong running game.
The people in the WAC and Mt. West weren’t prepared for this offense. Because of Steve Spurrior, Bill, the SEC is.
So you can thank your old coach for bringing the SEC kicking and screaming into the present and future when your current a—hole coach and his little p—-y offense fall flat on his face.
By Matthew's Worst Nightmare
September 16, 2005 03:09 AM | Link to this
Matthew, on November 29 we’re going to jam it right straight up your a*. There’s a little pottymouth so you can understand what I’m telling you, you immature twit.
By T Robb
September 16, 2005 03:22 AM | Link to this
The truly good thing is that this weekend we’ll have an answer and Matthew won’t be able to make up his own reality anymore. Then he’ll just be one shrill idiot crying out in the wilderness.
Good luck to the rest of you Dawgs this weekend. Everybody’s got a few, I guess.
Go Gators!
By bill
September 16, 2005 03:51 AM | Link to this
If the offense is so gimmicky,please tell me why Bill Belichick was in Gainesville this spring to check out Urban’s program?
If UF beats UT,it won’t be because of gimmicks.
By bill
September 16, 2005 03:56 AM | Link to this
If the offense is so gimmicky,please explain why Bill Belichick was in Gainesville this summer studying Urban’s coaching style.
If UF can beat UT this Saturday it will be because the Gators will out muscle the physical Vols on both sides of the ball.
By Hairy Dawg
September 16, 2005 03:58 AM | Link to this
Matthew, I hate Florida as much as you do, but Urban Meyer is going to do a good job there. He’s not going to be Ron Zook and he’s not going to be The Visor, but he’ll do just fine. All I want is for his Gators to lose to Georgia every year and finish behind us in the SEC East.
By James Stephenson
September 16, 2005 06:30 AM | Link to this
People forget that Spurrier ran the football at UF. Yes he passed, but most UT-UF games came down to who ran the ball better.
Look at the record when Spurrier was at UF, when he ran well, he beat UT, when UT ran better, he lost.
Just an FYI.
By Dawg Fan
September 16, 2005 08:18 AM | Link to this
Here’s the “reality” of Florida football this year under Meyer, they’ll be better than they were under Zook if only because he does run a more disciplined program. However, that may not show much in wins and losses. With that defense they will lose at least three games, starting with Tennessee this weekend. How well they do in coming years we’ll see, but the league has changed to the point that no one is going to reel off five out of six SEC titles. There are simply too many very good teams and coaches. As for Fulmer, I don’t like him, but the guy has won a lot of football games. There has to be a reason simply beyond talent. After all, Donnan assembled talent and couldn’t get past the eight win plateau with it.
By Tommy
September 16, 2005 08:29 AM | Link to this
Matthew, Sounds like a lot of things “p** you off.” Did we forget our prozac? Yeas, Urban’s got to prove himself in the SEC, but in usual bulldog style, you’ve already beaten him in Jax. Every year I wonder why you guys don’t wait until you win that game before talking your silly trash.
By T Robb
September 16, 2005 08:54 AM | Link to this
Dawg Fan, thanks for giving an opinion without being a jackass about it.
If I were going to point out issues at Florida, it wouldn’t be on defense. Our defense is pretty stout despite starting a smurf at one corner. We’ve got a tough, well-coached, well-conditioned unit. If you told me you don’t think this offense is running on all cylinders yet, I’d give that some credence.
By Matt
September 16, 2005 08:57 AM | Link to this
Matthew—-right on….Gator fans, wake up. I hate to tell everybody, but running the spread option offenseis nothing that new…it’s just an adjustment to the old option offense. And Spurrier NEVER RAN AN OPTION ORIENTED OFFENSE. You’re favorite coach and a coach I like and respect (though I’m a UGA fan) knew running the ball was important. In fact, Spurrier was 112-4 in games when he had a running back gain 100 yards and most of Spurrier’s runs were between the tackles. Do you really think that with all the great coaches in this league since 1990—Spurrier, Stallings, Saban, Fulmer, Tubberville, Nutt, Richt, Holtz, and even Bowden and Sherrill—that no one gave the spread option a thought? No, they did…they may have even run it in practice, but saw that the defense was TOO fast.
The LB’s are as fast as the safeties and the DE’s are as fast as the LB’s that Urban Meyer faced when he was at Utah.
By the way…Urban Meyer beat Texas A&M 41-21 in the season opener in 2004. In the bowl game, Tennessee beat them 38-7. Typically teams get better over the season so Tennessee won against an improved Aggie squad.
However, think what you want, but let me know when I can expect www.fireurbanmeyer.com to be up and running next week.
By wes
September 16, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this
Tech covers the 15? Makes me feel better considering you’re 6-7 ATS, Jeff. I would think both Georgia and Georgia Tech would cover. But my FAVORITE pick of the week is in the NFL. Falcons underdogs? Are u kiddin’ me? Take the Birds and the free candy.
By Matt
September 16, 2005 08:58 AM | Link to this
Matthew—-right on….Gator fans, wake up. I hate to tell everybody, but running the spread option offenseis nothing that new…it’s just an adjustment to the old option offense. And Spurrier NEVER RAN AN OPTION ORIENTED OFFENSE. You’re favorite coach and a coach I like and respect (though I’m a UGA fan) knew running the ball was important. In fact, Spurrier was 112-4 at Florida in games when he had a running back gain 100 yards and most of Spurrier’s runs were between the tackles. Do you really think that with all the great coaches in this league since 1990—Spurrier, Stallings, Saban, Fulmer, Tubberville, Nutt, Richt, Holtz, and even Bowden and Sherrill—that no one gave the spread option a thought? No, they did…they may have even run it in practice, but saw that the defense was TOO fast.
The LB’s are as fast as the safeties and the DE’s are as fast as the LB’s that Urban Meyer faced when he was at Utah.
By the way…Urban Meyer beat Texas A&M 41-21 in the season opener in 2004. In the bowl game, Tennessee beat them 38-7. Typically teams get better over the season so Tennessee won against an improved Aggie squad.
However, think what you want, but let me know when I can expect www.fireurbanmeyer.com to be up and running next week.
By Lee
September 16, 2005 09:07 AM | Link to this
As a Gator Fan, I used to love that everybody hated us and our coach. Since Zook took over, it seems that we have lots of friends. Now that Meyer is here, it looks like the hate is back. I could not be happier!
You hated SOS because you could not beat him. You liked Zook becuase you had a chance to beat him( but you were 1-2 against him). And now you hate Meyer for the same reason you hated SOS. You are afraid. WE WILL CRUSH YOU
By Dawg Fan
September 16, 2005 09:17 AM | Link to this
T Robb - I’ll not deny that your defense has been better thus far against bad teams, but I don’t see it holding up throughout the season. And I expect the problems to start to show against Tennessee’s running game. I could be wrong, and it may be that there’s more talent on the defense than I think, but I’m usually not. While your offense can’t run the ball, and probably won’t be able to consistently with that line and those backs, the speed at wideout and Leak’s arm makes the offense a dangerous one. In fact, I expect the Tennessee game to be another 30-28 type thing. Tennessee’s secondary is still suspect and your run defense is still suspect in my opinion. Strengths vs. weaknesses for both teams. Should you shut down Tennessee, my opinion will obviously change, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
By lee
September 16, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this
Matt - I hope Mark Richt is stupid as you are. Spend all your time practicing to stop the option. That is all we run. Just like my HS team 15 years ago. Florida does not run an option oriented offense. Have you watched any of or first two games? You are stupid.
I can remember about 10 option plays that have been run in the first two games.
So A&M got better over the season but Utah did not? You are stupid.
So the players on D are faster in the SES, huh? Are the players on Florida’s offense any faster then those at Utah? Yes they are. You are stupid.
By Mike
September 16, 2005 09:32 AM | Link to this
Schultz taking shots at Fulmer’s weight…that is funny. I guess we could use the same jokes regarding HRS for good ole Schultzie. Grow some hair before taking shots at someone’s weight.
Fulmer getting outcoached…he may occasionally but his record speaks for itself. I think Fulmer did some pretty good coaching againts a favored FL & Miami team in 2003 and a heavily favored GA team in 2004.
By Matt
September 16, 2005 09:37 AM | Link to this
Hey Jeff, you sound really knowlegeable and qualified talking about football. Where did you play in college? How long did you play in the pros? I am sure you’ve done some coaching as well.
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 09:54 AM | Link to this
Tommy,
Isn’t that what I said?
Let him prove it before all of these media idiots like Stewart Mandel rate him as the 6th best coach in NCAA football, while leaving the coach who has the most wins in the last four wins off of the list?
The offense is gimmicky. It isn’t physical. The Visor’s offense is twice as physical as Urban Myth’s.
Like I’ve been saying, we all owe a debt of thanks to The Visor. Without him, the SEC would be what the Big 10(11) is right now. Hopelessly backward and behind the rest of the offenses in college football.
I’ll leave you with this. When you’re coaching in conferences berift of excellent talent, a scheme helps even the odds and gives you and edge. Because it helps give your team an advantage. But in a conference such as an SEC, with NFL caliur athletes running all over the field, it isn’t as much about scheme as it is about preperation and just plain “athletic arrogance” (to use a Jim Mora word). Urban Myth’s offense doesn’t give him an advantage here, as it did in the MAC and the Mt. West. In fact, it probably puts him at a disadvantage for the non-physical nature of the offense.
And until Urban Myth proves he can win in this conference, through a couple of years, as guys like Richt have, Fat Phil has, and others have, then yes, he hasn’t proven jack s—t to anyone with a modicum of common sense.
Let’s see where he is in 3 or 4 years, and if his records are as good as Richt’s were and Fat Phil’s were after those times, then we’ll give him all of these accolades which every idiot media member want to bestow upon him with no proof of greatness.
Reminds me of Andruw Jones, and we all know how long it took him to live up to his potential, right Tommy? About 9 years.
But you and I have never seen eye to eye, so no biggie. You want to buy into the hype surrounding Urban Myth, that’s your perogative.
Until he strings together 3 or 4 years like Richt and Fat Phil did in their first 3 or 4 years, then he hasn’t proven a damn thing.
By Nathan Kimsey
September 16, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this
YOu my friend are a classless, disrespectful, clueless, ignorant waste of space. I where another waste of space is, on top of your head!
I’ll be in touch on Monday, GO VOLS!
By Nathan Kimsey
September 16, 2005 09:56 AM | Link to this
YOu my friend are a classless, disrespectful, clueless, ignorant waste of space. I willtell you where another waste of space is, on top of your head!
I’ll be in touch on Monday, GO VOLS!
By Smitty
September 16, 2005 10:04 AM | Link to this
The only thing Dawg fans are AFRAID of with regards to they Gaytors is the sight of your so-called women in their finest jean shorts sporting 50 pounds of stomach fat exploding from underneath a weathered Looney Toons or Nascar T-shirt.
By T Robb
September 16, 2005 10:05 AM | Link to this
Dawg Fan: We’ll know by about 11pm Saturday.
Matt: The athletes in the SEC on defense are clearly better than those Meyer faced in the WAC. However, the Florida athletes on offense are also better than anything he’s ever worked with. To borrow your analogy: our running backs are faster than Utah’s wideouts.
Let’s face it, this offense has worked pretty well the last four years and early returns at UF are promising. Coaches around the country, including Bill Belichick, are visiting with Meyer to talk about it and some are integrating it into their own systems. Belichick, incidentally, pronounced the offense “sound” - which I take to mean not “gimmicky”, or an easily defenseable rehash of the wishbone. It is innovative, certainly values the run but doesn’t shirk the pass.
So, Matt, how about we watch it in action before we trash it? I assure you we know what a fast defense looks like - after the last fifteen years, you should, too, buddy.
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 10:10 AM | Link to this
Nathan, take a chill pill.
You’re reminding me about all of those Bugs who were b*** about being called Central Atlanta University.
I mean, what do you have to be mad about, really?
Your cheating coach was able to hold off NCAA persecution by ratting out a hated rival like the fat rat he is, so you still have all of your scholarships and are bowl eligible. Your team is about to show everyone that Urban Myth is about 15 years too late if he wanted to take the SEC by storm.
Things are looking good. Well, until the Dawgs travel up rocky top way to lay another smack down inside the walls of your stadium, as we did two years ago.
So life is good for you until then.
If you don’t have a sense of humor, I guess the inbreeding must have breeded one right out of ya.
It’s hard to imagine that someone who thinks that shade of orange (or any shade) is anything but putrid doesn’t have a sense of humor, or can’t tell when someone is being a smarta—. ;o)
By T Robb
September 16, 2005 10:19 AM | Link to this
Matthew: I was with you when you said to wait and see how it plays out before we canonize Meyer. I’m a little put off by all the hype myself. My gosh, he hasn’t done anything yet, at least at Florida.
But then you proceeded to characterize the offense as a p—-y offense and proclaim it not tough enough for your liking - so it would seem to me that you aren’t exactly waiting to see how it plays out.
I and my scaly, reptilian brethren/sistern have a slightly different ending in mind.
By Scott
September 16, 2005 10:22 AM | Link to this
Matt and Matthew
Urban Meyer was the best coach available taking the biggest job available. Of course he was in the media everyday.
But neither one of you know much about this football scheme. They DO run the ball. They DO run b/w tackle. You call it gimmicky because it is hard to defend. Speed on defense WILL be an equalizer, however. But they have a little more speed on offense than Utah (besides Leak).
Watch our linebackers eat up the over-hyped Riggs. Defense wins for us until the timing on offense is there.
GO Gators!
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 10:24 AM | Link to this
That’s me just being bombastic, and a smarta—.
By T Robb
September 16, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this
Oh, some of your better qualities. Sure do miss you and your cross-gender alter ego over on the Braves boards, Mattie.
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 10:40 AM | Link to this
No, I know this offense. I watched enough Utah games last year on Thursday night and on TBS (sounds weird, TBS Football) to see it work. I know you run in this offense.
And I know enough about football, especially in the SEC to know that this offense is 15 years too late.
All of the runs come out of the shotgun. Way behind the line of scrimage. In the SEC, you’ll have DTs, LBs, and Safeties into the backfield before the running back will be able to make a cut. You’re going to be lucky to make it back to the line of scrimage.
You’re going to break a few lucky runs, and maybe catch a team off guard, but not teams like Tenn or Georgia.
I stand by my assertion. Utah would have been blown out by any of those teams I named in the first blog, and lucked out by getting the crappy Big East team. In fact, I have to wonder if the NCAA didn’t try to set it up so as their weakest BCS team played Utah so that Utah would be given an easier game to play, so they could “win.”
As much as I hate Tennessee, they deserved to play in a BCS game last year more than Utah did.
By ugafan
September 16, 2005 10:41 AM | Link to this
Lee
I can see that you are an intelligent Gaytor fan. Love the fact that every rebuttal is you are stupid. You obviously never went to UF and don’t know crap about football. I’d be surprised if you even played on the high school team.
By TennDawg
September 16, 2005 10:43 AM | Link to this
As fast as the media and fans have taken a liking to Meyer, they have turned their backs to UT which could be a BIG mistake (I can’t believe I am writing this). Anyone remember the preseason (I know, I know about preseason polls)#3 ranking and national championship talk in Knoxville and nation? Now after a narrow opening day win against UAB(us Dawg fans remember them right, 16-13 escape in ‘03?), they are seven-point undies to UF? UT has passing, running in Riggs and a quick, solid defense. Personally, I think they hand Urban his first SEC loss. We’ll see, that’s why they play the games right?
Go DAWGS!
By Scott
September 16, 2005 11:03 AM | Link to this
Well Matthew, Football 101 for you.
If Tenn’s tackles are in the backfield breaking up running plays, that is when a team would make short passes or shovel passes to exploit over pursuit.
And with Tenn’s DB’s (Jason Allen is a good hitter, not defender) I think we can be successful.
Notice, I don’t ever speak in absolutes (well, except just then). And I don’t want to argue game plans with you, because I SERIOUSLY doubt that either of us are qualified.
I acknowledge that we will have to see how the offense does. but I think you are naive to say it won’t work. You guys (GA and TN fans) are the only people who even discuss Meyer in terms of martyrdom. You won’t hear most Gators swear by him just yet. The media just finds his morphed offense interesting, and it IS a very high profile program.
I expect a good game, like most years, and Georgia will have to beat the winner.
GO Gators!
PS Hey Matthew, at least you don’t write “Gaytor”. That’s you’re fellow fan, by the way.
By T Robb
September 16, 2005 11:08 AM | Link to this
Says Matthew: “In fact, I have to wonder if the NCAA didn’t try to set it up so as their weakest BCS team played Utah so that Utah would be given an easier game to play, so they could “win.â€?”
Wow! An NCAA conspiracy theory that led to a Utah win! Holy crap!
I’m beginning to think you’re actually an alien from Roswell, NM instead of an a***** from Oceanside, CA.
That’s a long way to go to discredit a coach and program you fear. Fortunately, your opinion doesn’t matter - the matter will be decided where it should be, on the field. For that, and for idiots like you who run their mouths without knowing what they’re talking about, I am grateful.
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 11:17 AM | Link to this
No, the media has deified him.
When he is constantly talked about on Sportscenter, when he’s in every magazine, when he’s rated in the Top-10 of NCAA coaches (No. 6!) without proving anything in a real conference, while someone like Mark Richt, who’s won the most games of any coach over the last 4 years gets left off the list.
So am I bitter? Yeah, I am. These media idiots want to annoint Urban Myth as something he hasn’t proven to be. A coach who can win in a real football conference.
So yeah, it freaking annoys me to no end.
By Jackets fan
September 16, 2005 11:27 AM | Link to this
Funny, the NFL thought Urban Meyer’s offense was so gimmicky that they drafted his QB #1. His offense, which is still being ran at both Utah and Bowling Green by former assistants, has also produced a QB that might very well be picked top 5 in the next draft if he comes out, Omar Jacobs. Why are UGA fans so dumb that they can’t believe the truth until after a trip to the reality woodshed. I seem to remember predictions from a week ago of 50 point a$$ whuppins that would be handed to Spurrier’s cocks. UGA might actually beat Florida this year, but it won’t be like Matthew thinks. You’ll see after Saturday when Urban’s gimmicky offense beats UT. UT barely beat UAB for God’s sake in Knoxville. UGA fans are so f*ckin stupid it makes my head hurt.
By Large Orange
September 16, 2005 11:32 AM | Link to this
Are you kidding me. Richt has had more tallent the last three years than anyone in the SEC and fell flat on his face short an SEC championship two years ago. Don’t forget about that hearlded team from last year that was bumped off by the orange in Athens. Get a national champ. under Richt and then talk to me about failed expectations and getting less with more. GO BIG ORANGE!!!
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 11:34 AM | Link to this
Actually, an a—hole from metro-Atlanta, actually.
Making it kind of hard for me to be my friend who does reside in Oceanside.
But I’m classless?
I didn’t run someone off of a blog with a concerted effort because I didn’t agree with her.
You and the rest of the Coxophiles are a true class act, Tommy.
Enjoy having your heart ripped from your chest when the Braves lose to Houston or St. Louis or to Florida. Or maybe, they’ll lose to a Padres team with a losing record in the first round.
Either way, another unfullfilling October for the Cox-apologists, and more than likely, for the denziens of Gainesville, FL.
By Jackets fan
September 16, 2005 11:37 AM | Link to this
Oh and as a side note, Ron Zook (he of no previous head coaching experience and no big ballywho) managed to kick UGA’s a$$ 2 out of 3. So all of this Urban Myer hasn’t proved anything is pointless, cause Zook didn’t need a pedigree to b*tch slap a few puppies.
By Jeff Schultz
September 16, 2005 11:43 AM | Link to this
Matt … I played tight end for three years at Michigan, then seven years in the NFL and two in the World League. I also coached at Army. And dated Jennifer Anniston. The real reason Brad Pitt left her is she kept comparing him to me, and he never measured up. He couldn’t take it anymore. Matthew … Deep breaths, son. Come on, work with me. In through the nose, out through the mouth. Everybody … Feel the love.
By Edgar
September 16, 2005 11:49 AM | Link to this
OK!!! That did it!!! You leave Jerry Glanville alone!!! He’s the 6th best coach in wins in Falcon history. I’m ashamed of you Jeff.
By Dawg Fan
September 16, 2005 12:00 PM | Link to this
Hey Jackets fan, why aren’t you talking about all those wins the Jackets have over Ric…oh yeah, there haven’t been any. How’s it feel to have to use another team for your smack?
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 12:06 PM | Link to this
I’m okay…
Nothing a couple of belts of Patron couldn’t handle ;o).
Jeff, you should know, there’s no love to be had (or lost) between these schools.
And look, a Bug felt so left out, he just had to come in say a few things.
Just think, with your last column, you upset every nerd on the north and south side.
By Jackets fan
September 16, 2005 12:08 PM | Link to this
Okay who’s turn is it to give Matthew his meds and change his diaper?
By JH17
September 16, 2005 12:10 PM | Link to this
Gators by 25. 42 - 17
By Jackets fan
September 16, 2005 12:17 PM | Link to this
Dawg Fan, last I checked the subject of this story was UT-Florida, not UGA. So who gave you hall-monitor responsibilities over who gets to comment on a non-UGA story? Sure Richt hasn’t lost to Tech. See here’s where Tech fans and UGA fans differ. I can admit reality and admit where Tech falls short. UGA fans think they have the #1 team in the universe and are baffled when UGA doesn’t destroy every opponent. And they cringe at any suggestion that some other coach or team could possibly be better than UGA. I think November will be a rude awakening for the pup nation. But let the score do the talking.
By John Myers
September 16, 2005 12:27 PM | Link to this
I usually read 6 daily sports sections over the internet. You sir are without a doubt the least talented writer I have ever read in my 49 years of life on God’s green earth. You constantly belittle Coach Fulmer about appearance. Is this the best you can come up with. All the man does is win. Check your facts as to his record against his opponents. If you indeed do have access to real facts. We in Tennessee would not trade Coach Fulmer for any coach in the world. He is what he is. Honest, christian better than average coach and true friend to his staff and players. I dare you to write a responsible article next week after Coach Fulmer proves you wrong once again. After Saturdays game in which Tennessee will dominate the line of scrimmage and wear down Floridas smaller defensive line, we will come out a winner by at least 14 points. Do you really have the guts to do this? Or, are you just some no talent bum that hides behind his computer keyboard to whimper about what the Big Bad Fulmer has made you eat all these years. Get a life!
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 12:45 PM | Link to this
John,
Honest? The guy ran (runs) a crooked program who escaped punishment by becoming the big fat rat we all know and hate.
And come on… the guy invites critcism by dressing like he does on the sideline…
Like the Great Pumpkin.
By rumpus
September 16, 2005 12:58 PM | Link to this
Mark, the real USC? I knew from your writing style that you had Left-Coast connections. At least you got the right Carolina. Appreciate you picking USC to beat Ala.
By lee
September 16, 2005 01:06 PM | Link to this
UGAFan -
“Gaytor” That is pretty funny. Did you come up with that? Let’s see if I can be so witty… uh UGAy! Wow I am as juvenile as you are now!
I made my point/refuted his point, THEN stated “You are stupid”. “You are stupid” was not one of my rebuttals.
I played Left Guard for my first two years in HS before I blew out my knee(would have missed 2 weeks with today’s technology). I then attended the University of Florida where I earned my degree in Information Sciences.
It seems EVERYTHING you said in your post was WRONG.
Matthew - I think you have it backwards. Meyer’s offense is more physical than SOS’s. I THINK our team is tougher than last year. We will find out on Saturday.
By Matt
September 16, 2005 01:11 PM | Link to this
Matthew, if you think TN and Fulmer runs a crooked program, you may want to double check on that. Fulmer, Spurrier, and Nutt all testified against Bama. LET IT GO! And if you don’t think other teams cheat, then I got some property to sell you. I am sure you are a greek god when it comes to looks if you can criticize someone for their weight. We all can’t be perfect like you.
By ChicagoVol
September 16, 2005 01:25 PM | Link to this
Tennessee vs. Florida
Lots of Noise Lots of Gators running around Leak on ground Ball on ground Leak on ground Big advantage in TOP to Vols Leak on Ground Mahelona 3sacks/3pressures/1fumble Riggs 147 yards Corey Anderson 2TDs (1 run, 1 catch) Wilhoit 3 of 4 Leak on ground
By Dawg Fan
September 16, 2005 01:32 PM | Link to this
Jackets fan - What rude wake up call will happen in November? Auburn going to beat us? That’s hardly a rarity. While some of our fans are definitely ridiculous, I don’t really see it on this Urban Meyer thing. They’re right, he hasn’t done a thing in the confrence yet, and the idea that his offense is going to run roughshod over the league is silly. And where was I being the board monitor? I simply pointed out that you had to resort to Zook beating Georgia a couple of times because, well, Tech hasn’t since Donnan left Georgia and the fat man left Tech.
By Matthew
September 16, 2005 01:46 PM | Link to this
No greek God here…
But it is funny, you have to admit, that the man looks like a Giant Pumpkin.
You need to have a sense of humor.
By Jackets fan
September 16, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this
Tech will beat UGA. That’s the November surprise awaiting you.
By Dawg Fan
September 16, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this
That’s quite a sense of humor you’ve got. Isn’t it about time for Tech to have another embarrassing setback of a loss? Hmm, and there sits a decent UConn team up next.
By BJ
September 16, 2005 02:40 PM | Link to this
Kumqaut name calling. Hey Jethro ever been ran over by a 6’6” 370 pound lineman. How about getting your A— out on the field Saturday Night and let one of the Tennessee Lineman run you down. Doesn’t matter what you call one of the winningest coaches in the NCAA he ain’t playing the game the TEAM plays the game. VOLS 21 GATORS 14
By TennDawg
September 16, 2005 03:27 PM | Link to this
Jackets Fan - y’all sing the same song every year. Once the game comes and goes with another win for the Dawgs (usually not too close) and then we start all over again - “just wait till…blah, blah, blah.” Here’s an idea: shut your stinger, go about your season and win some games, then come November 26th IF Tech wins, flap away my boy. Until then, your bees are just back page. Go DAWGS!
By General Neyland
September 16, 2005 04:04 PM | Link to this
First of all, Schultz is a bona fide weasel who has to insert name calling and junior-high jokes to help fill his column requirements. Jeff, when will you actually write something of substance? Since 1990, this game has been won (all but one) by who wins the running game. UF’s (Urban Mystery) running game is option oriented with the QB reading the tackles and making split decisions to either hand-off, pitch, or run. Two to three plays into the game, Chris Leak will get his clocked cleaned and the option will disappear (and/or Leak as well). On the other side, UT (Phil Fool me/Fool You) has a proven power-I run oriented offense and Gerald Riggs Jr. is a proven power runner who has an extremely experienced and very good offensive line. Out-coached Schultz? Fulmer has been out coached in the past but not recently. I don’t suppose you rememember the more recent road upsets at The Swamp (2001, 2003), at Miami (2003), and at Athens (2004)? I didn’t think so….you Hack!
By wes
September 16, 2005 04:59 PM | Link to this
Being a Yellow Jackets fan has been bad the past few years (with the exception of our basketball team). Tech may have been bad the past few years, but things are looking up now. And after reading all of this banter, I must reiterate: I AM SO FREAKING GLAD I AM NOT AN SEC FAN! Thank Goodness. The only crappy fans in the ACC are Clemson’s, FSU’s, and Miami’s, not because 2 out of 3 are good, but, well, you’d just have to be there to see it…with FSU being the 3rd worst. Miami a clear #1.
LSU, UT, FLA, BAMA, SC, & UGA fans are the worst…in that order!
There, that’s the closest thing to a compliment I’ll give you mangey mutts.
Say Thank You.
By Dawg Fan
September 16, 2005 05:41 PM | Link to this
Not for nothin’, but most of the Tech fans I’ve met are p******. Win a game or two after losing six or seven straight and you guys act like you own the series.
By wes
September 16, 2005 05:57 PM | Link to this
Point & Case.
By Detroit Smack Back
September 16, 2005 11:59 PM | Link to this
Sorry Jeffie,
Your wrong. Bobby Bowden, by far, has done the least with so much talent. Year after year. Name someone else who’s been ranked number 1 that many times and come up with squat. Bobby had a batting average like yours. Bad.
By FootballFan
September 17, 2005 12:17 AM | Link to this
None of you are worth a $hit. The games are played on the field for a reason - so @$$holes like you can’t f*ck up the game like you do the blogs.
By Pete
September 17, 2005 12:19 AM | Link to this
Florida will cover with no trouble. The secret weapon - Older Leak signal reader. If Phil is so worried about Chris’ older brother stealing his signals, he is in more trouble than anyone knows. Get real Phil!
By Gen. Neyland's Daddy
September 17, 2005 02:50 AM | Link to this
General Neyland’s Lost Maxims, numbers 8 through 10:
As the leader of the football team, a coach must dress for success by wearing bright orange clinging shirts. In this way, he will not be shot by drunken hunters on gameday.
Switch quarterbacks a few times. Eventually, your opponent will be disoriented and lose focus.
When faced with a critical decision in a contest, eat.
By Gen. Neyland's Daddy
September 17, 2005 02:56 AM | Link to this
Iffn yuh figgerd a-why theyz a-nummered 1, 2 an 3, yuh git a cukie an sum warm milk…
By Dave Jones
September 17, 2005 03:09 AM | Link to this
Your one dumb jackass S**! Your comments have no substance, and your logic is void of any, well, logic! Being a Tennessee fan I glad you don’t like the Vols, because thinking like you in any way would prompt me to seek professional help. Skinny Dave. Huck, I bet you thought that was funny…Just like you, UGA sucks. And they will fall at the hands of the mighty Vols once again! So hate on Idiot!
By Dave
September 17, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this
Schultz, What a Tool! Can you not come up with new insults for our local teams? Go back to where you came from because it’s obvious that you are not crazy about the south.
By Courtney
September 17, 2005 07:45 PM | Link to this
Terrible…just terrible….Go back to where you came from. Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon. So, how about that Bammy prediction?
By Scott
September 18, 2005 01:57 AM | Link to this
HOW DO ALL OF YOU VOL FANS FEEL ABOUT THIS GAME NOW? You all think that you are unbeatable, and I’ve spent time living in TN, so I know the typical TN fan.
You know, I was worried when Ainge came back in. But Like I said above, our defense is better than you think. Riggs had 13 yards rushing in the second half. I can’t believe your line couldn’t wear us down. And I’m not being sarcastic… you guys always have the best o-line in the conference.
Read my above quote “Defense wins for us until the timing on offense is there”. Oh, and a botched fake punt doesn’t hurt, either!
By Larry
September 18, 2005 12:52 PM | Link to this
Re: Bama v. s.c. - “Take the gift 2 and s.c. in a straight upset” Do they pay you to do this stuff? I note Bama covered the 2.
By lee
September 18, 2005 02:40 PM | Link to this
Who’s plate of crow is bigger? Matthew’s or General Neyland’s? UF is not physica? ha ha ha.
Looks like Fat Phill was outcoached afterall!
By Oold Gator
September 18, 2005 07:36 PM | Link to this
I am amazed how this blog has dried up since the game last night. Meyer keeps saying we haven’t seen his offence yet, so I believe he is playing to Leaks strengths plus trying to improve special teams play and the running game. The defense is playing pretty good too.
I want to make a couple comments about Fulmer (note; I didn’t call him phat phil). If I remember correctly, he got the head coaching job at UT by undermining Johnny Majors, also it has been said that in past years, he has been accused of voting in the coaches poll to benefit UT, i.e. UT #1 UF #10, when in reality, and the final tally was much closer. This is only a supposition, because the voting is secret, but there is just something about the man I don’t like that makes me believe it. I bet you Bama fans would believe that too.
By Bowden Fan
September 18, 2005 10:15 PM | Link to this
Bobby Bowden - Most wins all time. Fifteen straight seasons finishing in the Top 5 (1985 - 2000). Two National Championships. Played in a couple more. All during Miami’s dominant reign. Consistently played the Floridas, Miamis, Notre Dames, Penn States, Texas A&Ms of the world to offset a weaker ACC schedule. Seems like he has done alot with the talent he has recruited.
Noticeably quite in Knoxville after Saturday.
By Old Gator
September 19, 2005 12:50 AM | Link to this
To Bowden Fan - My hat’s of to BB, wish he would take off his ugly hat too (just kidding).
He as had the Gator’s number for the last twenty years, but that is changing. When the old coot retires and Jeff Bowden replaces him it will be like UF with Zook. Seriously, he will be difficult to replace and the program will probably suffer for a while. I just don’t think there are many colleges like Mimai where just any coach can be successful.
Enough said, this old coot is going to bed.
PS: I hate you guys almost as much as I hate the Dawgs. I couldn’t even bring myself to pull for you over BC.
By lee
September 19, 2005 09:19 AM | Link to this
Most of the FSU fans I know respect Bowden but feel that it is time to move on. They want to go ahead and get started with their Zook/Goff years.
It is time to make a statue of the guy, name the field after him and…. Wait, they already did that!
By General Neyland
September 19, 2005 02:17 PM | Link to this
I believe most intelligent lifeforms would agree that if you hold your SEC opponent to less than 300 yards of total offense, you should win the game. Tennessee spotted Florida excellent field position three times and three times Florida convert a field goal. It was enough for the win.
Look, you guys who want to use immature language should stay off the public forum. AJC.com will kill this feature if you continue to curse and use personal insults. This includes you Jeff Schultz, who I suspect, uses more than one alias.
By Bowden Fan
September 19, 2005 11:41 PM | Link to this
I respect the props thrown Bobby B’s way. I do think he has earned it.
His biggest mistake was hiring his son to be the O-Coordinator. I hope that this is the final year we have to suffer through that decision. We aren’t as good as the #7 ranking suggets but I’ll take it after beating good Miami and Boston College teams.
We haven’t been the same since Richt left. Any UGA fan think that UGA’s offense resembles the old FSU offense. I see it.
By DC
September 20, 2005 10:39 AM | Link to this
So. Carloina in an upset over Alabama? Ha Ha! 37-14
By lee
September 22, 2005 12:23 PM | Link to this
General Neyland -
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses! AND they are not even good excuses!
Florida’s 3rd field goal came at the end of a 7:42 drive that started on their won 30 yard line. If you add those three points to the seven points scored on a 80 yard TD drive in the first quarter, you get 10 points. Even in Tennesse 10 > 7.
Neither team’s offense looked good but your team got out played and out coached.
By Heath
September 23, 2005 12:35 PM | Link to this
Hey Jeff! What is with you bashing on Fulmer and UT? You may not realize this, but Fulmer and Spurrier are the only head coaches in the SEC that have won a “real” national title (Sorry Auburn fans). Richt and Meyer have not. I rest my case.