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By lawrence

August 24, 2005 04:00 PM | Link to this

Please, don’t anybody bite on this weak attempt to “stir the pot”.

It is defenseless.

By Matthew Cafaro

August 24, 2005 04:02 PM | Link to this

Hey HYPOCRITE

How about the fact that the Seminole Tribe in Florida SUPPORTS FSU’s use of their name and imagery.

Mr. Moore, you cannot possibly be this stupid. So you just must be one huge hypocritcal, ignorant a—hole.

You are some piece of work, Terence.

By Matthew Cafaro

August 24, 2005 04:03 PM | Link to this

I’d like to take another moment to challenge Mr. Moore.

Mr. Moore, you’re always so ready to take a stand for blacks and the first nation’s peoples of this land, and their real AND perceived slights.

So why not take up to slights that happened to the Irish 100 years ago. Or 200 years ago. Or even 50 or 60 years ago?

Are you trying to say that one kind of discrimination is worse than another kind?

Have you ever heard of “Irish Need Not Apply?” Or replace Irish with Italian, Orientals (now Asian, as Oriental is a racist term), German, or yes, Black, or Indian.

What about the wrong-headed stereotype of a drunk, fighting Irish man. Not only is this demeaning, and wrong, it is blatantly anti-Catholic in a heavily protestant nation. So are you going to fight for the Catholics out there, who a called idolaters and other worse and wrong names by Southern Baptists (who are very hypocritical themselves)? Are you going to fight for Southern Baptists, whom I just called hypocritical?

YOU, MR. MOORE, ARE A HYPOCRITE!

I challenge you to denounce the ugly stereotype of the Fighting Irish.

I challenge you to be a man of principle, as you have so far wrongly claimed to be. Actions speak louder than words.

I am of German-Irish, Italian, and Catholic decent. I also, like most every American, have a small percentage of my genetic make-up that belongs to the Cherokee Tribe on my Grandmother’s side on my dad’s side. Not a great amount, but a tiny bit.

Thing is, Mr. Moore, most of us are just plain mutt.

I have said this to you before, and I’m saying this again. Biologically, there is only one race - The human race. The correct term for the divisions within this race is ethnicity. So all of y’all from the last column and this column claiming that the Irish who are offended by “Fighting Irish” don’t count, and their argument isn’t as good as the one by the Indians because the Indians are a race and the Irish aren’t… well, not only are you stupid, you’re wrong.

There you have it, Mr. Moore. I am challenging you to take a stand against your beloved Notre Dame for their promotion of terrible stereotype of the Irish. I challenge you to be a man of principle. I challenge you to NOT be the hypocrite that you’ve proven to be time and time again with your actions and your words.

Recant your ridiculous assertion, or call for the end of the Fighting Irish.

Be a man, Mr. Moore. You can either admit your hypocrisy, and be a man and apologize. Or if you really, really believe in what you say, you’ll start a movement, or acknowledge said movement, to end the ridiculous stereotype of the Fighting Irish which the University of Notre Dame profits mightily from.

There is no thing as good and bad discrimination, or high or low levels of discrimination. It either is, or it isn’t. All discrimination, if it truly exists, is bad. Blacks, Indians, Irish, Italians, Asians, and many others have been discriminated against in this country at one point in time and some still to this day.

So take a stand, or remain a hypocrite. The choice is yours, Terence.

I’ll be the thorn in your side on this issue forever. This is me taking a stand against YOUR hypocrisy. And I won’t rest, I won’t stop. Every column you write, I’ll reprint this blog, until you acknowledge your hypocrisy or demand the end of the Fighting Irish.

By Osceola

August 24, 2005 04:29 PM | Link to this

Good journalism would demand a little bit more context. Terence is a good writer and ought to know better. The Seminole tribe has stated that they are proud of their association with FSU. The NCAA no doubt also realized that the university had more than a solid leg to stand on were they to act on their threat to take the NCAA to court over the issue.

Why must everything be about politics, blue state - red state, Bush, whatever, ad nauseum? If the NCAA similarly allows Illinois to keep the Illini name, who will you blame? What political connections would you speculate on there?

The NCAA overstepped its bounds, made a silly ruling, and is now trying to save face.

By doc

August 24, 2005 04:40 PM | Link to this

matthew you have said it all, you go guy. if he isnt hypocritical he is a the very least inconsistant or narrow on his social views and sadly doesnt have the fortitude to explain this. they must teach an interesting form of history at notre dame. maybe they feel since the name is self chosen then it is beyond reproach beneath the golden dome. he doesnt see that it could be as offensive as many other ethnic or religious groups doing the same. maybe this isnt a serious issue for him after all.

By j bisantz

August 24, 2005 04:41 PM | Link to this

your column made no sense at all-typical of a narrow minded person, who would rather be politically correct than right..

By Kevin

August 24, 2005 04:47 PM | Link to this

Actually, Terence, the NCAA finally got it right. Do a little homework on the subject next time, too, will you? The Seminole Tribe of Florida has no objection.

Also, just because you are black doesn’t mean you have some special mission to take up Quixotic racial battles. It’s not 1965, Terence, it’s 2005. Join the vast majority of your fellow Americans by dropping racial knee-jerk reaction from your everyday thinking.

By Tom Veil

August 24, 2005 05:00 PM | Link to this

Sure, the Seminole Tribe of FL has no objection. But the Seminole Tribes of every other state do object.

By Matthew Cafaro

August 24, 2005 05:07 PM | Link to this

Tom, you’re an idiot.

There are TWO Seminole Tribal locations. Not 50. One in Oklahoma, one in Florida.

There is ONE man on the OK Seminole Tribal Council who objects to FSU. The rest of the council voted him down. So, NEITHER Seminole Tribe has a problem with FSU using Seminole as a proud, respected mascot, you ignorant fool.

So, why don’t you KNOW the situation before you open your fat mouth?

Mr. Moore… you also need to follow the advice I just gave Tom.

By Tony

August 24, 2005 05:10 PM | Link to this

The whole point of the NCAA mascot/name/logo ban was to weed out those schools who exploit Native American imagery in their names/mascots/logos. By easily yielding to FSU, the NCAA sets the stage for nearly any program to make a compelling argument against the ban.

While FSU pays the local Seminole tribe to support for their mascot, FSU lacks the support of the Seminole Nation as a whole, who expressed regret that the name and imagery was allowed to stand. Go visit a Native American studies program, a reservation or approach a Native American on the street and get their opinion on the subject. The overwhelming majority will side in favor of the ban.

Personally I applaud Mr. Moore, he understands the gravity of the decision and sees the slippery slope it creates. Mr. Moore chooses to err in favor of an oppressed and exploited people and not marketing, politics and tradition. How can that be hypocritical?

By Matthew Cafaro

August 24, 2005 05:25 PM | Link to this

Tony,

for the last time… The Seminole Nation… the majority of them are in SUPPORT of this. You are spreading a FALICY.

And he is hypocritical because he “fights” for what he (and the NCAA) determines to be demeaning, yet he doesn’t utter a word about the blatantly stereotypical and demeaning (to Irish and Catholics both) mascot of Notre Dame.

That is what is called being a hypocrite. To Mr. Moore, he refuses to hold both to the same standard. He wants one standard for one, and another for the other. You can’t do that. If you claim to have a principle, you stand behind it, and you apply it to ALL similar situations.

Mr. Moore, and the NCAA are hypocrites.

And you are, too.

By Jim Rossi

August 24, 2005 06:20 PM | Link to this

It’s a mascot for a football team. Get a grip. The NCAA and you are obsessed by “political correctness”. Who said that these “symbols” debase American Indians as a society or a race? We are working ourselves into a “tight a*” corner as a society with all of this PC nonsense. We are afraid that someone will be offended at every turn of every corner. Why ever turn a corner? For crying out loud, we’ve lost the ability to laugh at ourselves over “political correctness”!

By harryo

August 24, 2005 06:40 PM | Link to this

Right on Mr. Moore, the NCAA did buckle under to pressure from powerful Florida State alumni and the brother of the President. I have to wonder if the tomahawk chop or the war chant, which was invented at Florida State and has been exported to the Atlanta Braves and the Kansas City Chiefs is not considered ”hostile or abusive” by many Native Americans across the country. The use of the Seminole name justifies those who support Chief Wahoo, have no problem with Chief Nok-a-Homa or don’t see anything wrong with the Washington Redskins. Unfortunately this is all about money and if the NCAA had stuck to their guns and prevailed in the courts, it would have cost Florida State millions of dollars to change their name, logos, etc. One has to wonder if the Seminole Tribe, which makes millions off its casinos, has no problem letting Florida State use the Seminole name because its possible the tribe receives a royalty from everything Florida State sells with the Seminole name?

By op

August 24, 2005 07:12 PM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, will you please explain what is abusive or hostile about the name Seminoles? I challenge other bloggers who support your position to explain it, also. I looked at the NCAA list, and only 2 names appear to be in bad taste: The Southeastern Oklahoma State Savages and the Carthage Redmen. Both are stereotypical, maybe demeaning, and should be changed. The rest should be left alone.

By wes

August 24, 2005 07:57 PM | Link to this

Wow. Here we go again.

By GTIronman

August 24, 2005 08:15 PM | Link to this

Well, Matthew, after a year, I finally realize we have two things in common: I’m part Cherokee. I don’t want Terrence Moore assuming he can talk for me because he’s part black. Go, Noles!

By Evan

August 24, 2005 08:45 PM | Link to this

If there is any defense for Mr. Moore, which is very hard in this case, I’d say maybe his point is about the NCAA and the power the wield or should wield. The NCAA took a stand and then backed down. Question is, should the NCAA have started all this in the first place.

The issue of Native American stereotypes/mascots is very sensitive, but not to the general public. I waffle on the issue myself, but have no basis for “feeling” what the Native Americans feel about this issue other than some fractional amount of Cherokee blood I possess. On one hand, I’ve felt that sports mascots, at least some, can serve a positive purpose to remind us of our history/heritage. However, on the other hand there are groups of Native Americans that don’t feel that way and I suppose that should be respected. Also, what is the boundary of offensive Native American mascots? Redskins…hmm, that’s probably the most offensive. Braves, of which I’m a fan, appears to me to be a noble type of Native American mascot. “Illini” - well that’s a tribe not a stereotype. Regardless of the question, it’s not my place to provide the answer. IMO - A real discourse between Native American groups and government officials needs to occur to define and set the boundaries of what’s right and wrong with the use of Native American mascots. Until that happens, the NCAA has no business getting involved.

To the point, this issue doesn’t seem to be something that the NCAA should have control or involvement in - at least as a primary driver of regulations. They obviously failed in their attempt.

I don’t always agree with Mr. Moore and, yes, I believe he weaves race a little too much in his journalism/editorialism. However, I do respect his opinion on this issue.

By TJ

August 24, 2005 09:34 PM | Link to this

Mr. Moore,

Once again I thank you for your very astute observation and well thought out opinion. The NCAA has shown that it is more into providing “lip service” than actually solving any problems or making a difference.

It is ironic that the NCAA has no problems standing up to a poor student athelete who might have accidentally accepted a meal paid for by the wrong “person”. They will not hesitate to declare this student ineligible, basically destroying the entire future of the student and robbing them from getting a college education.

If you are a wealthy university, especially one with very affluent political connections, you can thumb your nose at the NCAA because they will cave in to you no problem.

This decision to reverse their stance on this matter sets a very dangerous precident. Now it seems more and more the inmates are running the asylum. As a governing body, by caving in to the pressure of the rich universities, the NCAA is risking to become an obsolete and inept organization.

How long until these schools decide not to adhere to NCAA sanctions? How long until these powerful universities decide that they will put out as many athletic scholarships they wish?

This dangerous inbalance of power held by the wealthy major universities is already set in place. Thanks to the BCS, they already have a stranglehold on the top bowl games, national championship, and the majority of the money that goes with them.

Lesser universities have to claw and scrape their way in to a lower tier BCS game as it is. Unless they have a team that is a pushover the powerful universities won’t play them durring the regular season. Thus if you are one of the less powerful universities, even if you go undefeated, fat chance at getting a shot at the national title because your schedule was not “hard” enough.

It is apparent that the major universities such as Florida State feel that they are “above the law” and don’t have to adhere to the rules set forth by the NCAA. By giving in to the pressure of these powerful universities the NCAA is proving them right.

By reggie

August 24, 2005 10:29 PM | Link to this

Readers stop falling for Terrence’s malarkey. He is a zit starter and a professional boondoggler. He is a Monday Morning quarterback who has superb literary skills that suck you effortlessly into his words of controversy. Some writers have prescience; Terrance does not and this is why he piles on after the whistle. My wife said it best one day while I was listening to Sporting News on XM- “baby your sports talk shows are full of DRAMA KINGS” or … again zit starters. Unfortunately, she is right and Terrance has been wearing his crown for years. RP

By chad

August 24, 2005 11:03 PM | Link to this

The only foolish act on the NCAA’s behalf was the original ruling itself.

By Matthew Cafaro

August 25, 2005 12:15 AM | Link to this

TJ, do you even understand what you’re saying?

So, let me guess this straight.

You, Terence “The Hypocrite” Moore, and the NCAA know better than the Seminole Tribe, both in Florida and Oklahoma, on what they should consider to be demeaning?

So, the tribe says they have no problem, and you punks are saying they should?

Who the hell are you? Who the hell is Terence Moore? What kind of balls you both must have to tell the Seminole Tribe they shouldn’t have the right to decide who gets to use their name and imagine.

What unbelievable ego you both must have to think that YOU know better than them.

You both have not one leg to stand on.

Idiots.

By Peerless' Mama

August 25, 2005 12:48 AM | Link to this

Some of you people are REALLY rude and I see it carries over to other writers.

I always hated that my son had to play for a Univeristy that used a man in a coon skin cap and a DOG as mascots.

I always got confused about whether they were hound dogs or just hillbillies, but it was JUST a mascot so I just cheered for the Vols.

Some of you should be ashamed of your typing.

I understood the point of the column and it looks like Mr. Moore has done it again.

Good Job TM.

By TJ

August 25, 2005 01:02 AM | Link to this

Dearest Mr. Cafaro,

This forum was set up to state my opinion and I did. I am also very aware of what I said, after all I typed it. My comment was regarding the fact that the powerful universities are running roughshod over the smaller universities and the NCAA.

Since the NCAA is the official governing body of collegiate sports, if the NCAA lacks the ability to govern these powerful universities, the smaller universities have no chance and are stuck in mediocracy much like the majority of the small market Major League Baseball teams.

It is obvious you are the one who fails to understand what I am saying. I am on here to discuss sports and articles in an intelligent manner. If you are unable to discuss these topics like an intelligent adult and must resort to childish playground insults such as calling people “idiots”, please leave my name out of it because I refuse to lower myself to your infantile behavior.

I was unaware you were elected spokesperson for the entire Seminole Tribe; I must have missed the press release.

I believe the propper question would be “Who the Hell are you?” Considering what I have read on here, the way you seem to enjoy calling people out and then berating their opinions like yours actually holds more weight and turning this into a 3rd grade p** contest, it seems that you my son are the one in need of the ego check.

By sodapants

August 25, 2005 01:05 AM | Link to this

Tom said… “Remember? After the NCAA announced earlier this month that “hostile or abusiveâ€? mascots and imagery from schools would be banned from postseason play, “

I say…. ok, hostile and abusive to who? Tom or the Seminole? It seems to me that the Seminole in Florida are honored by the association and so is the college. It’s mutual. What’s the problem? I really wish that, at least once in a while, over-eagar liberals would ask the people they pretend to champion what they think before, as inevitably happened here, they falsely represent them in the name of their own grand political ambitions.

And who cares what the Seminole in OK think? Aren’t Fl and OK two indepent states? Well, that was the idea a long, long, looooong time ago anyway.

If the NCAA is going to be this silly, maybe it’s time for another group to represent and organize college sports. This is absurd, and it would be absolutely hilarious if these people could not influence anything. But alas, they can…and try. Not only does that make them race-baiting, wannabe victims… but also a danger for liberty itself.

Get a grip, Tom. Surely you have better things to advocate than this nonsense.

By sodapants

August 25, 2005 01:15 AM | Link to this

oops, I clearly was speaking to Mr. Moore. Don’t know where “Tom” came from.

Regardless, I’m looking forward to Mr. Moores’ future column advocating the banning of all black colleges. Using race as a focal point is clearly wrong.

By the way… How many Irishmen are actually on the Fighting Irish now a days?
Please drop that nonsense also. You can’t argue against Mr. Moore and then start your own sensitivity fit about being offended by Notre Dame. You’re just making his POINT!! geezus..

By sodapants

August 25, 2005 01:25 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore,… Please explain how market competition has anything to do with the school mascot or the overpowering stink of political correctness? Since Florida State does so well, wouldn’t that be a sign that the Seminole is desireable and not a “demeaning or abusive” icon?

I’m searching for your point here… please help. And the link to Bush here was clever. But not that clever since there really isn’t any relevence at all to the story.

Did it ever occur to you that not everyone is overflowing with excessive victimhood disorder? And maybe they wanted to keep the name out because of history and tradition?

And if the NCAA caved in… what did they cave in to exactly? An entire nation telling them they’re stupid and not worth listening to? Not a bad time to cave really, eh?

….wow

By sodapants

August 25, 2005 01:36 AM | Link to this

I now know why I never read this guys columns. There’s no point.

Powerful universities? Aren’t there a lot of those around that aren’t offensive to Africn-American writers offended by Native American names?

I still can’t get a grip on why Mr. Moore is for this ban besides the fact that minor league baseball teams suffer for unrelated reasons. ?

By jimmy

August 25, 2005 01:56 AM | Link to this

i think people are just looking for something to be offended at you dont see christens whinning about names like deacons padres saints etc

By sodapants

August 25, 2005 02:07 AM | Link to this

That’s true, Jimmy. But what you DO see is the modern liberal whining about Christianity. Banning it from public view at every opportunity. Shutting down Christmas plays in schools. Attacking the boy scouts and so on…

However, the left has a real problem finding something negative to say about Islam now don’t they? Freedom fighters? They’re just a different culture and that we have no right to judge?? George Bush is the real terrorist?? (you’ll notice Mr. Moores’ attempt to create the impression that the Bush’s are somehow involved in corrupting college sports in this “article”) How many times have we heard it all?

As insane as it is… i’m afraid it’s what has become ‘normal’ for our friends on the other side.

This column is just the latest tizzy from a hypocritical and morally bankrupt mindset. Ya know how it is… all people are equal.. but some people are more equal than others.

By sodapants

August 25, 2005 02:44 AM | Link to this

I’d also be interested in Mr. Moores’ philosophy towards private property.

While private institutions certainly have the constitutional right of association, don’t they also have the same right to not associate? That right might be exercised from a religous viewpoint, a monetary one, even a racial one (see black colleges, catholic schools etc).

The underlying bubbly here is this… Who decides such things?

And are everyone’s interests involved?

By harryo

August 25, 2005 07:29 AM | Link to this

Native Americans are upset because they are the only race of people to have sports mascots named after them (no, the Irish, Trojans, Spartans, Vikings, Moors and Gauchos are not a race of people) I find the comments saying that because the Seminole Tribal council supports the use of the Florida State name that it’s OK. Do folks realize that the Seminole Tribe has a financial relationship with Florida State in regards to the use of the Seminole name? Would the tribe be just as supportive if they received no money from Florida State. It would be interesting to find out how the Seminole’s tribal council felt about other native American nicknames and logos like Chief Yahoo of Cleveland Indians fame or the Washington Redskins Would there be anything wrong with New Orleans Hornets owner Bob Johnson, who’s African American, renaming the team the Zulus, after the great South African tribe and also the name of one of the biggest New Orleans Mardi Gras groups if Johnson, the Zulu tribe and the Mardi Gras group all supported the use of the Zulu name?

By Thomas

August 25, 2005 07:34 AM | Link to this

If all of you hate Terrance so much, STOP READING HIS ARTICLES. I’m sure he loses all kinds of sleep at night knowing all of you think so poorly of him. Mr Cafaro, based on your earlier response, I have to ask if you know if Notre Dame is a Catholic School, founded by Catholics, run by Catholics, and supported by Catholics. If the mascot is demeaning, maybe you should take it up with the Catholic backbone of the school. Your comment was also a hugely inappropriate racial rant that seemed to be part of a bigger, personal, problem you have with Terence. Calm down and take your own advice by finding out what you are talking about before you go off the deep end. As far as the issue in the column, I don’t know if the Seminole Nation as a whole is in favor of FSU or is it just some political mouthpiece that is speaking for everyone.

By Jay

August 25, 2005 07:39 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore,

Nice Quick Hit! On the point again! Keep writing!!

By doc

August 25, 2005 08:22 AM | Link to this

usually you see what you are. it is the fascinating mirror of life. projection, what a wonderful reality and a tendency of us all. so i suspect mr moore is very prejudiced but cant see it yet and only has a problem coming up with something to say or write. you know what they say publish or perish even if it is rubbbish.

By Dave

August 25, 2005 08:59 AM | Link to this

I am of Irish descent and maybe it’s time to tell Terence Moore we don’t like being the Notre Dame mascot anymore that depicts us as fighters we know they mean drunken fighters.

By Roy McCreary

August 25, 2005 09:12 AM | Link to this

The Seminole Indian Tribe of Florida Supports FSU’s use of their name,imagery, and mascot. Don’t take my word for it, check it out !

Sincerly,

A Yellow Jacket fan, and they better not mess with it.

By Peter Krug

August 25, 2005 09:16 AM | Link to this

Terence - Thanks for using the proper description (Native American) instead of Indian. The Indians (of South Asian descent) I work with take great offense at the improper use of their name. (They are considering suing Italy and Spain for reparations). (take it easy - joke)

Oh, and FSU will have to change their name to the Magicians if they are going to beat the Hurricanes on Sept 5. It’ll be eight straight this year (assuming FSU can make it to the championship game).

By Kenneth Smith

August 25, 2005 09:18 AM | Link to this

The first thing that came to my mind when this controversy first emerged was that Florida State should give up it’s mascot only if Notre Dame does likewise.

I will be very interested to see the altercation between the NCAA and the alumni of Notre Dame on Pay-per-View when that case comes up!

I am of Irish descent (Go raibh maith agat!) and most of us are quite proud of Notre Dame’s mascot. This hyper sensitivity truly has to end.

By Jim Rhodes

August 25, 2005 09:28 AM | Link to this

As usual Terrance is off the mark the real issue is not that FSU has power to get it’s mascot excluded but the NCAA has bigger fish to fry than worrying about the Native American mascots.

By Randy

August 25, 2005 09:28 AM | Link to this

Don’t know which makes me laugh the most, Moore’s columns or Cynthia McKinney’s comments.

By Randell Owens

August 25, 2005 09:29 AM | Link to this

I’m excited to see the NCAA finally showing some good old fashioned common sence. The people of Florida State are proud of their mascot. The Seminole people are proud of it. Everyone else needs to let it go. Many of my Ancestors were Irish. I am not a Notre Dame fan. I am not Catholic. I an not a northerner. Yet I have no anger in my heart nor do I feel that they are demeaning me by using the mascot…”The Fighting Irish”. Let’s just pray that the Green Peace activist and animal rights groups don’t take up the cause and UGA loses the right to be know to be known as the Bull Dogs.

By Nick

August 25, 2005 09:39 AM | Link to this

Terence;

Sometimes your articles are interesting, sometimes they are garbage. This one is garbage, smelly, rotten, dump garbage. Last month you wrote an article trying to make “Bud the Dud” into the patron saint of baseball. This month you try to tear down a university from defending itself from Myles Brand and his merry little band of marxists. No wonder they did away with ‘paid’ AJC Sports Plus. You are out of touch with reality.

By Kenneth Smith

August 25, 2005 09:46 AM | Link to this

Thomas: it is not being racist to ask that Terrence Moore be consistent in his application of political correctness.

Political correctness is a deliberate hyper sensitivity fostered by those who wish to use a Christian understanding of fairness and sensitivity against the greater Christian culture in which these values are held by attacking these particular things, and the attack against school mascots is but one facet of the ongoing war of political correctness against various aspects of America’s culture. The Marxists would agree with Julius Caesar in this regard: divide and conquer; but they are more astute in applying Lenin’s principle of “increasing the level of tension between the contradictions.”

That the NCAA blinked in this particular case is a good sign in this ongoing cultural war, in which Terrence Moore is clearly on the side of political correctness and the Gramscian Marxists who created this strategy, and the fact that a consistent application of this principle would require that Notre Dame change its mascot too.

Political correctness is ALL about subverting tradition, and college football’s identity relies upon its tradition. Requiring Notre Dame to change would greatly violate college football’s traditions because of the pivotal place which Notre Dame football has in the establishing of college football itself as a national sport. Terrence Moore and others: we’ll see you in the next round. The battle continues. Christus vincit.

By GT

August 25, 2005 10:14 AM | Link to this

Some school up in North Carolina is called the Fighting Christians. Man did Robertson give that name a new twist.

By Chuck Price

August 25, 2005 10:21 AM | Link to this

Terence, I’m at aloss for words.I have never read your articles and after this I know I never will. How can anyone be such a Dumba__? Ignorant minds like yours will never change so I won’t even bother.

By Steve

August 25, 2005 10:34 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe that Mr. Moore has managed to keep his job all these years. He is hands-down the worst sports columnist in America.

Mr. Moore’s shtick has always been trying to argue the unpopular side of every issue so that he will be seen as “controversial.” This is a ploy to attempt to generate interest in a column that is grossly lacking in substance and insight. I guess he doesn’t mind that he comes off as a complete idiot in the process.

This is the last time I will be reading the drivel he puts forth. Sorry, Lawrence. I am in total agreement with you, but I just can’t stomach him any longer.

By SD

August 25, 2005 10:48 AM | Link to this

TM does one thing good - he invokes all of us.

He is dead wrong all of the time which incites those of us with a brain.

Discussion is a good thing, even if the bleading libs wont listen to common sence, we can alwasys said, “I told you so.”

By Steve

August 25, 2005 10:49 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, you, sir, are a joke. Everyone who has ever read your column realizes that your shtick is arguing the unpopular side of every issue in an effort to appear controversial. This is a weak attempt to draw attention to a column that is consistently lacking in both substance and insight. I guess you don’t mind coming off as a complete idiot in the process. Keep up the reprehensible work! It’s somehow managed to keep you employed far longer than you deserve.

By harryo

August 25, 2005 10:57 AM | Link to this

How did Notre Dame become part of this conversation? Nobody has a problem with the name Fighting Irish or the Notre Dame mascot, and as noted the Irish are not a race of people. As the smallest racial group in the country, Native American people do not the media power or political clout of African Americans, Hispanics of color or Asian Americans. There aren’t enough Native Americans in the country to organize economic boycotts or political actions the way other racial groups organize. No sane person would think of naming teams after any aspect of Black, Latin or Asian groups, but folks feel they can dis Native Americans because outside the money they generate from the casinos, they have no clout in this country.

By jason

August 25, 2005 11:35 AM | Link to this

Who is perpetuating the sterotype: the NCAA, who backed down once it became clear that the Seminole Tribe in Florida whole-heartedly endorses the use of the Seminole mascot; or Terrence Moore, who, apparently believes that same Seminole tribe is not sophisticated enough to know whether it is being victimized?

Let the “aggrieved” speak for themselves.

By Jerri

August 25, 2005 11:51 AM | Link to this

Mr Moore’s entire argument that the NCAA caved to FSU is flawed. When the NCAA stated their intention to not allow schools to use what they consider offensive or abusive mascots to play in post season NCAA sponsered events they gave an “out” by saying that the schools listed would have a chance to submit an appeal. If the NCAA considered the appeal valid they would reverse their decision regarding that particular school.

Is it caving to admit they were wrong (at least in FSU’s case)? And before you think I am just an FSU fan and biased toward them - my husband is a UF alum and my son is currently attending UF, so I am a Gator.

By BirdDawg

August 25, 2005 11:53 AM | Link to this

Is it just me or does anyone else expect to turn on CNN one day and hear that a man named Matthew Cafaro quit taking his lithium and decided to show off his “expert marksmanship” at a local shopping mall?

By BirdDawg

August 25, 2005 11:55 AM | Link to this

Is it just me or does anyone else expect to turn on CNN one day and see that a man named Matthew Cafaro has stopped taking his lithium and has decided to show off his “expert marksmanship” at the local shopping mall?

By jason

August 25, 2005 12:49 PM | Link to this

I was born in Georgia and I have lived there all my life. I am completly offended that the NCAA allows the University of Georgia to compete in athletics with the bulldog mascot. As a native Georgian, nobody can understand how humiliating and degrading it is for me to be compared to a dog. And not just any dog, but a dog that often has hostile tendencies. Its an ugly dog too! Now everyone across the country assumes that myself and all other Georgians are mean, ugly, and will stop at nothing to bite their children. When will the NCAA and Terrance Moore finally be consistent and stop allowing people of all backgrounds to be incessantly ridiculed by the antics of these silly mascots?

I can’t help that I was born and raised in Georgia. I could move away from Georgia, but should I be forced to change who I am just because someone makes fun of me? And even if I did relocate myself somewhere else, I would still know that the INTENT of it is to make fun of me, right?

So now you are wondering what I would suggest we change the mascot to? I don’t really know an answer to that, but I do know that I’d be equally offended if the mascot was a pansy or something else that suggested that Georgians are weak. In fact, what athletic team would want to be referred to as anything that is not hostile? Isn’t it the point to let other people know that you’re going to kick their butts in whatever you are competing in instead of rolling over and letting them win. Maybe the NCAA should do away with sports like football in which part of the point is to knock the crap out of someone in a hostile manner. And while their at it, why have any mascots at all? There is no possible way to keep everyone from being offended no matter what we choose, so therefore we should take away everyone’s right to have a mascot in order to protect everyone’s feelings. In fact, everyone in this country should have their right to speech revoked so that way nobody will be offended by anything said.

What I have to say to Mr. Moore is that I understand that people of different races have been mistreated. However, before we go off on a political crusade to enforce laws on people, why don’t we take the better route and change their hearts by involving ourselves in our neighbor’s lives so that one day they might choose to shed a name because of its percieved offense? I promise that this route will have a much stronger and longer lasting impact.

By Matthew Cafaro

August 25, 2005 01:26 PM | Link to this

First of all, Harryo, for the last time… THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE!

The Human Race. I suggest you join it.

Native Americans are not more a seperate race than Africans, or Europeans. There is only ONE friggin’ race!

God! Some of you are so stupid. And so is your argument.

The differences are called ethnicity. Native Americans are a seperate ethnic culture and people. Just like the Irish. Just like Africans. Just like Germans, or Brits.

And sodapants, if you would please READ what I was saying, you would see that I DO think that this is nothing but hypocritical nonsense.

If Terence Moore wants no Native American names, then he should be just as agaist the stereotype of the Fightint Irish.

Am I adovocating a change? NO!

I am saying, either he (and other idiots like him) apply their principles to ALL, or apply them to none.

If he doesn’t, he and his ilk are HYPOCRITES.

You cannot pick and choose what you will apply your principles to. You are either a principled person, or you are a hypocrite.

Please, read what I write sodapants.

Once again, TJ, who the hell are you? No, I don’t speak for the tribes, but guess what? The Tribes spoke for themselves, and just because YOU don’t like what they have to say, you want to ignore them. So, who the hell are you to tell them what they should like or dislike?

All I want, is for Terence Moore to admit his hypocrisy, and for idiots like harryo (uhhh, Fighting Irish ain’t demeaning cuz the Irish ain’t a race, but American Indians are) to stop being so damn ignorant.

By Matthew Cafaro

August 25, 2005 01:48 PM | Link to this

harryo… for the last time…

THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE.

There are different ethnicities, but there is one human race. Your argument is as ignorant as you are.

sodapants, you have to read what I write. I make the argument against Notre Dame to point to Terence Moore’s rampant hypocrisy. Not because I think it’s demeaning. The thing is, I’m sure there is at least one Irishman out there who finds the idea of “Fighting Irish” to be a demeaning and stereotypical and untrue characticture of Irish people and culture. Specifically Irishmen getting drunk and starting fights.

And if that were true, then Terence Moore should be just as against the Fightring Irish as he is against American Indian names. But he isn’t. He’s a hypocrite, that’s what I’m trying to point out.

He holds out and applies his “principles” to what he wants to, not to all that apply. That is being a hypocrite. You are either a principled man (or woman) or you are a hypocrite.

Terence Moore is a hypocrite.

That is my point.

I think this argument, and Moore, and guys like TJ and the NCAA, who want to tell the Seminole Tribe what they should consider demeaning and hostile, are inane, ignorant, and hypocritical.

Mascots are Mascots. While Redskins is demeaning, and kudos to M of OH for changing, Seminoles, Illini, Utes, and others are not.

By Rod

August 25, 2005 01:49 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand why people get so offended. Yes, the stereo typing is wrong. (Drunk Irish). However, to be used as a school mascot? Give me a break. This is really getting out of hand. At the rate people are getting offended, we won’t have many mascot names we could use. What’s next? Are we going to have to rid ourselves of the Cowboys, Sooners, or Trojans? People need to quit walking around with a chip on their shoulder waiting for someone to knock it off. I just don’t understand how a mascot, named after a group of people, can be offensive. Especially if the mascot is not mocking or making fun of anybody.

By Anthony

August 25, 2005 01:56 PM | Link to this

The truth is the NCAA had no good reason to involve itself in scools Mascots in the first place!!!!

By Dennis

August 25, 2005 02:16 PM | Link to this

Steve is on to something. Jay Mariotti also always writes about the negative or tries to create a controversy. When Chicago was winning championships he wrote negative Jordan columns every week. Its the same mentality. Those who cannot build tear down.

By Rodney in New York

August 25, 2005 02:51 PM | Link to this

If FSU portrayed the Seminole as a stinking drunk on welfare, then we’ve got a disparing reference. But FSU uses a romantic portrayal that the Seminole tribe of Florida obviously finds flattering.

The Seminole tribe of Florida has an agreement with FSU, much like Philips has an agreement to use it’s logo on Philips Arena. Is the Seminole tribe of Florida devoid of the right to use their likeness as they see fit?

Would a yearly payment to the Seminole tribe of Florida make this story go away?

How ‘bout dem apples?

By Ken Stallings

August 25, 2005 03:46 PM | Link to this

Frankly, Mr Moore appears upset that Native Americans, being able to think for themselves, have chosen to exercise their civic rights and vote by massive majority to endorse Florida State’s mascot, name, and traditions.

In fact, they have certified time and again they are proud of the association. After seeing the ceremony with Chief Osceola, his horse Renegade, and the flaming spear, I must say I understand why they are proud of this.

Mr. Moore sees this as a disrespectful caricature. I see it as a noble reminder that at one time people truly did fight with such ferocity in defense of their lands.

Whether it is the US Army naming all their helicopters after Native American tribes, or the FSU war chant, this is really an honoring of the nobility of the Native American culture.

Considering the depth of homages in names of states, rivers, cities, and counties, to enact Mr. Moore’s views as sweeping policy is seen for it’s foolishness.

The Seminole people have spoken. They have been listened to. Mr. Moore’s opinion matters not. And, I am very glad to still live in a country which respects diverse cultures and also pays principle attention to the expressed desires of those who’s culture is being celebrated.

If Mr. Moore wishes to remained embittered over it, then I feel sorry for him. Perhaps one day he will understand Native Americans are not children deserving or desiring of his patronage, but rather enlightened adults who’s views he should respect foremost lest he no longer earn our respect.

Ken

By Matthew Cafaro

August 25, 2005 04:25 PM | Link to this

harryo… for the last time…

THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE.

There are different ethnicities, but there is one human race. Your argument is as ignorant as you are.

sodapants, you have to read what I write. I make the argument against Notre Dame to point to Terence Moore’s rampant hypocrisy. Not because I think it’s demeaning. The thing is, I’m sure there is at least one Irishman out there who finds the idea of “Fighting Irish” to be a demeaning and stereotypical and untrue characticture of Irish people and culture. Specifically Irishmen getting drunk and starting fights.

And if that were true, then Terence Moore should be just as against the Fightring Irish as he is against American Indian names. But he isn’t. He’s a hypocrite, that’s what I’m trying to point out.

He holds out and applies his “principles” to what he wants to, not to all that apply. That is being a hypocrite. You are either a principled man (or woman) or you are a hypocrite.

Terence Moore is a hypocrite.

That is my point.

I think this argument, and Moore, and guys like TJ and the NCAA, who want to tell the Seminole Tribe what they should consider demeaning and hostile, are inane, ignorant, and hypocritical.

Mascots are Mascots. While Redskins is demeaning, and kudos to M of OH for changing, Seminoles, Illini, Utes, and others are not.

But, if you are going to take a stand against one type, you need to take a stand against all, otherwise, you are a hypocrite.

By skeegiebandit

August 25, 2005 04:29 PM | Link to this

It has occurred to me, in my short life, that if you look for something offensive, then you will find it. Anything can be made into a race issue. Sadly, it is not the issue itself that is racist but the advocates that perpetuate its offensive nature. And of course, I am only using racism as an example since it seems to be the most popular form of discrimination to be brought up. Discrimitive lines can be drawn based on any characteristic, and discrimination, not racism, is the issue at hand here. By the way, Webster defines race as, “any of the different varieties of human beings distinguished by physical traits, blood type, etc. or any distinct group of people”, which means that the whole argument used about the Irish not being a race is void. Race is not soley based on the variation of skin pigmintation. Anyway, this was my virginal experience reading a T. Moore article and I was left with a void of fluency and content and an overabundance of controversy. Your impotent article can best be related to a “B” rated movie with all of its gruesome action yet depravely lacking in plot. To counter your point made about the NCAA being “spineless” by backing down from the “powerful” schools I say the original sin of spinelessness occurred when the movement was first made by the NCAA to ban certain mascot names and imagery. You may ask, “how so, skeegie?” To that I answer: These mascots names and images have been around for a long time and only in the light of political correctness has the long-standing tradition and school pride been vanquished by that liberal “light”. So the NCAA, Terence, are not afraid of the “powerful” schools but of the whiny, sue-happy liberals who wish to make discrimination their political playground. In my rant-rooted digression from thought, I have wandered away from my original point about the perpetuation of discrimination by “minority” advocates. Damn you ADHD! It is sad that Dr. King’s dream of a world where people of all creeds and colors has been tarnished by the advocates charged with duty of protecting those with less of a voice in society. When one makes every misfortune about race or disability or anything else that sets them apart from the majority, they are the ones that are drawing the lines of segregation. Instead of leaving the past behind us and moving on as one human race, we hold on to that bitterness that will keep us suppressed as a people. To all of the T. Moore’s out there, I say move on and worry about more important issues. Thank you all for your time.

By Matthew

August 25, 2005 04:29 PM | Link to this

harryo… for the last time…

THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE.

There are different ethnicities, but there is one human race. Your argument is as ignorant as you are being.

sodapants, you have to read what I write. I make the argument against Notre Dame to point to Terence Moore’s rampant hypocrisy. Not because I think it’s demeaning. The thing is, I’m sure there is at least one Irishman out there who finds the idea of “Fighting Irish” to be a demeaning and stereotypical and untrue characticture of Irish people and culture. Specifically Irishmen getting drunk and starting fights.

And if that were true, then Terence Moore should be just as against the Fightring Irish as he is against American Indian names. But he isn’t. He’s a hypocrite, that’s what I’m trying to point out.

He holds out and applies his “principles” to what he wants to, not to all that apply. That is being a hypocrite. You are either a principled man (or woman) or you are a hypocrite.

Terence Moore is a hypocrite.

That is my point.

I think this argument, and Moore, and guys like TJ and the NCAA, who want to tell the Seminole Tribe what they should consider demeaning and hostile, are inane, ignorant, and hypocritical.

Mascots are Mascots are Mascots. While Redskins is demeaning, and kudos to M of OH for changing, Seminoles, Illini, Utes, and others are not.

But, if you are going to take a stand against one type, you need to take a stand against all, otherwise, you are a hypocrite.

By skeegiebandit

August 25, 2005 04:39 PM | Link to this

I had a long, brilliant written comment about T. Moore’s perpetuation of discrimination and it was lost somehow after I hit the “Post” button. I am sorry that this is the only comment that you will get from me. Apologies

By Matthew

August 25, 2005 06:06 PM | Link to this

harryo… for the last time…

THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE.

There are different ethnicities, but there is one human race. Your argument is as ignorant as you are being.

sodapants, you have to read what I write. I make the argument against Notre Dame to point to Terence Moore’s rampant hypocrisy. Not because I think it’s demeaning. The thing is, I’m sure there is at least one Irishman out there who finds the idea of “Fighting Irish” to be a demeaning and stereotypical and untrue characticture of Irish people and culture. Specifically Irishmen getting drunk and starting fights.

And if that were true, then Terence Moore should be just as against the Fightring Irish as he is against American Indian names. But he isn’t. He’s a hypocrite, that’s what I’m trying to point out.

He holds out and applies his “principles” to what he wants to, not to all that apply. That is being a hypocrite. You are either a principled man (or woman) or you are a hypocrite.

Terence Moore is a hypocrite.

That is my point.

I think this argument, and Moore, and guys like TJ and the NCAA, who want to tell the Seminole Tribe what they should consider demeaning and hostile, are inane, ignorant, and hypocritical.

Mascots are Mascots are Mascots. While Redskins is demeaning, and kudos to M of OH for changing, Seminoles, Illini, Utes, and others are not.

But, if you are going to take a stand against one type, you need to take a stand against all, otherwise, you are a hypocrite.

By Robert Haines

August 26, 2005 08:58 PM | Link to this

You wrote: “…Not the fact that schools basically have the right now to do whatever they wish regarding mascots and imagery…”

Would you please tell me when schools did NOT have the right to do whatever they wish regarding mascots and imagery?

The NCAA has ZERO moral authority to tell schools how to conduct their business - especially when it has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with college athletics.

If the American Indian Movement is upset with Chief Osceola, they need the courage to come knock on TK Wetherell’s door in Tallahassee, not cower behind the liberal lapdogs the NCAA has become. Bring it on! (or go home and shut up)

It takes genuine unmitigated gall to side with cowards, frauds, and liars.

By Mr C.

August 26, 2005 11:19 PM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Cafaro, There is nothing more inane than your continuous, ridiculous statement about one human race. With all due respect, I call that ignorance. This is a sports blog but you don’t have to look far to see the way racism permeates our society. You are not qualified to tell me that there is one human race. I deal with racism everyday and Sports is a way for me to get away from such hatred. Some of the comments on this blog remind me of the world we live in. I wish there was one human race but life has never and will never be fair. I will give you a couple of examples that you can relate to!! We still have a handful of African American coaches in college football out of the 105, 106 Division 1A schools. Look at the assistant coaches and draw your own conclusion. I’m a Tech alum but go look at the assistant coaches in the football program. Check out the SEC. Some schools will not hire an AA no matter how qualified the person is!!! How many years did it take for the SEC to hire the first African American coach? Don’t give me that crap about it will take time. I picked college football because at least 50% of the athletes are AA hence at least 50%, s—t 10% of the coaches should reflect that percentage. I can give you a thousand examples.

I don’t agree with majority of T. Moore’s article but I respect people’s opinion. I cringe whenever I read about his arguments about trading for Griffey or Sheffied but I understand why he does that.

Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t make that person an idiot. It’s called difference of opinion.

By Matthew

August 27, 2005 11:28 AM | Link to this

Mr. C,

No, I’m right.

There is only one human race. You prove to me, or support your assertion that there is more than one race of humans.

There are different ethnicities. Irish, African, Italian, Native American, et al.

But we all have 23 pairs of chromosomes. We all have all of the same organs in all of the same places. We all have comprabable bloodtypes. We have the same celular structure.

Now, some of our extremely ancient ancestors spread out from Africa and Mesopotamia and the Sub-Continent to different parts of the world. And they adapted to their new homes and climates. Some lost just about all pigment in their skins because they didn’t need it (the Norse peoples) and some gained more (equatorial Africans) because they did need it. Some got shorter, because of cold winters, they needed to be warmer, and a shorter person means quicker circulation, which means stays warmer easier (Northern Europeans). Some grew taller, because of a hot climate (Africans).

So, no, Mr. C. You are wrong. There is only ONE race. The human race.

And that is just scientific evidence.

From a religious standpoint, God created man in his own image. Meaning he created on race.

Yes, there is something called racism. And it is ignorant, ecause racists seek something taht never could be. Seperate human races. It’s ignorant because not only are they using wrong terminology, they are using an invalid arguement.

Racists are really people who hate others’ ethnicities. If they were true racists, they’d hate themselves.

So, Mr. C, don’t misunderstand me. I know there are ignorant people out there who hate because of ethnic differences. But to perpetuate this myth of seperate human races, which you seem to want to cling to, makes it that much easier for their ignorant hate to exist.

We are one race. In this race, we have seperate ethnicities. Embrace this idea, and maybe we can start to change ignorant minds.

What I am saying, which is scientifically and biologicaly the truth, is nothing different than Dr. King was saying 40 years ago. I’m just using scientific terms.

So, whatever your do Mr. C, never call me ignorant. I may be an a—hole. I may act the fool sometimes, and speak (write) before I speak. But I am not ignorant.

If you persist in perpetuating this myth of seperate human races, than you sir, are not only spitting in the eye of scientific fact, you become what you are calling me. Ignorant.

By Thomas Richard

August 27, 2005 06:18 PM | Link to this

I would like for someone to start thinking about closing all indian gamming casinos if they keep pushing this issue.Are you listning Ralph Reed.

By k

August 28, 2005 12:03 AM | Link to this

if fsu is so interested in promoting native americans, why don’t they have a native american studies program? why do they have such a proportionally low population of natives in their accademic programs? why do the childern here think that ‘the indians are dead’? why don’t i hear native music on the radio? why are FSU’s American Indian Student Union powwows so small? Why do they have such few numbers? How will FSU students ever know what being native means? i could live with the mascot if i didn’t feel it directly effecting this community in these ways.

By Julie D'Artagnan

August 29, 2005 05:32 AM | Link to this

I am a Native American, tribally enrolled in the Saginaw Chippewa Indian tribe who vehemently opposes the Indian mascots. How many times do we have to say “Stop it!This causes many of us pain” before white people change their behavior? Don’t tell me that I shouldn’t be upset because it is meant to honor and respect us. That’s BS! And there is no tribe or tribal leader who can speak for me and my opinion. Don’t give me the “Fighting Irish” example either. I don’t know of any Irish folks who are impacted like us by the Notre Dame mascot. I have worked for 25 years trying to educate young kids of all backgrounds on Native cultural awareness. Everytime I go into the schools there’s a little kids who starts the “woo woo woo” patting his mouth and laughing. There’s the tomahawk chopping kids too. This is the image that I have to work to dispell. Don’t make it any harder by promoting stereotypes of Indians through sports mascots. The kids get their ideas from cartoons and sports mascots. I don’t see any african witch doctors on cartoons or in the stands at games. Drop it now regardless of the marketing dollars and alumni dollars (Isn’t money always a big issue anyway?) Signed, Julie Whitepigeon D’Artagnan

By sodapants

August 29, 2005 02:26 PM | Link to this

on the same token, you don’t not have the right to speak for every other native american because it causes you such terrible ‘pain’.. oooo…

You come off as a victim waiting for a cause…..
Maybe you should take your own modern day trail of tears out to Hollywood insead.
Hell, i’m a conservative and have to dispell things all the time that liberals make up about me. I don’t burn black churches ya know…… really. I don’t work for Haliburton. And I haven’t heard from my zionist master in ages so it’s not Israle’s fault either. See there… we all have to deal with such things. You’re not special.

By sodapants

August 29, 2005 02:40 PM | Link to this

point being.. hollywood is where most nonsense stereotypes are created. But what you have a beef with isn’t something that someone just made up.. it’s with history.
I think if you want to ignore the history, fine. But trying to bury it doesn’t really make a lot of sense.

By john

August 31, 2005 12:16 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, when Ted Turner and Jane Fonda were doing the ‘Tomahawk Chop’ behind the Atlanta dugout, I didn’t hear you complain. Did you, let us know? I’ve never heard you criticize those African-Americans wearing war bonnets at Washington Redskins games singing, “Hail to the Redskins”. Did you? And I can go on, can’t I?

By Mark K. Trueblood

September 3, 2005 11:27 PM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, the next time you decide to write an article such as this, please obtain the necessary facts in order for others to possibly understand your point, and maybe even agree with you.

The NCAA is no doubt the most inconsistent organization within these United States concerning so many issues related to intercollegiate athletics and the student athletes that participate in such.

But, surprisingly, they actually got this thing right, after realizing they’re policing the wrong end of the college sports spectrum.

Bobby Bowden, Governor Bush, or President Bush had nothing to do with the NCAA’s decision to allow FSU to continue utilizing their mascot as they have been for over five decades now.

The Seminole tribes have NEVER had a problem with FSU using their tribal name, so neither should you, or anyone else for that matter.

If you decide to name your daughter, “Porsche”, does the car company have a beef with you or anyone else using their namesake? Silly? Maybe, so how about these examples:

Toyota has a vehicle with a model name of “Sequoia”. Does this make the Japanese based carmaker guilty of “racism”? What about the numerous manufacturers and companies and various models of thousands of items that have some sort of Indian related namesake? Should these companies and products all be changed?

According to you, YES!

Now that we’ve completed the trip through NEVER-NEVER LAND, let’s be a little more objective in what you decide to “attack” with your articles. Do your homework.

The are a handful of college and professional sports teams with Indian or Indian name related mascots as compared to the thousands of corporate businesses nationwide that utilize the same name(s) or likelness in the logos, products, etc.

And that doesn’t even begin to tackle the Indian names adopted by highschools and “mom & pop” businesses nationwide.

I’m not an FSU fan, but I am a fan of any movement that will slow down some of this “political correctness” wave of B/S!

GET A GRIP!

Write about something that we as sports fans are extremely curious about. How does a MLB team win 14 consecutive division titles and only come away with one (1) World series title?

When you figure that out, pass it on to Bobby Cox, and then you can waste our time with your lack of factual and not very informative articles.