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MLB players, owners should come clean

And now for the Tuesday Countdown:

10 - Tom Hicks: What an absolute tool.

9 - The biggest problem with baseball’s steroid era is the complete lack of responsibility anybody wants to accept — starting with the owners. Have you read the comments from the Texas Rangers’ owner? He says he feels “personally betrayed” by Rodriguez and addresses the “hypocrisy” of the player, given conversations the two had about being a role model.

First of all, this is the same goofball who complained about baseball’s spiraling salaries and then gave A-Rod a record $252 million contract. Hicks is the captain of the Good Ship Hypocrite. Secondly, we already have at least one former Rangers’ official, conditioning coach Fernando Montes, who says he suspected Rodriguez of steroid use in 2003 and told that to Jon Daniels, then in the personnel department. Are we to believe that news didn’t travel up the Rangers’ office flow chart?

8 - Hicks says he wants A-Rod to personally apologize to him. Try again. Hicks and every other owner should apologize for turning a blind eye to steroid use because they were more interested in selling tickets, souvenir jerseys and corporate sponsorships. We all want the athletes to come clean. It’s about time the owners come clean.

7 - I’m assuming nobody at ESPN will go on a similar rant that criticizes baseball. The last time that happened, Scott Van Pelt got suspended. As first reported by Deadspin, Van Pelt was suspended from his radio show for criticizing commissioner Bud Selig about his $18.5 million salary. There’s nothing new about somebody taking a shot at Selig, except that ESPN and baseball are partners and, well, the network also knows something about hypocrisy. Stay tuned next week when Van Pelt returns with a glowing profile on Tom Hicks.

6 - So I’m watching Obama’s press conference last night when somebody asks the President what he thinks of A-Rod’s drug admission. Just wondering: Has anybody ever asked Selig what he thinks of the economy or Iraq, because I’m sure it would be great theater.

5 - Just for the record: If Jamal Anderson really had a cocaine problem, he’d be thinner.

4 - If the Hawks are trying to hide the news of a potential ticket price increase for next season, they could not have done it more awkwardly. They announced that anybody purchasing season tickets for next season by April 1 will not see a price increase from this season. But the team didn’t say what will happen after April 1. Probably depends on the Belkin trial.

3 - It wouldn’t surprise me if Tom Glavine views the reported less than $2 million guarantee offer from the Braves as low-balling by Frank Wren. And he might be right. But that said, Glavine might want to remember what’s most important to him at this stage of his career: 1) Pitching in Atlanta; 2) Coming back from injury in a relatively low-pressure situation as the fifth starter. He should take it.

2 - BetUS.com is running odds on the most likely players outed in the 2003 steroid report. There are no Braves listed - but there is an ex-Brave (then-Ranger): Mark Teixeira at 3-1. The rest of the list: Carlos Pena (3-1) Adam Dunn (4-1), Carlos Delgado (5-1), Lance Berkman (5-1), Manny Ramirez (5-1), Jim Edmonds (5-1), Albert Pujols (8-1), David Ortiz (8-1), Ryan Howard (8-1), Adrian Beltre (8-1), Jim Thome (8-1), Vladimir Guerrero (8-1) and Prince Fielder (10-1).

1 - So far none of the other 103 players who tested positive have stepped into the light for a public cleansing. Let’s give it a few more minutes.

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By Notre Don't

February 10, 2009 11:47 AM | Link to this

I totally agree … Hicks is a total jerk. As for Glavine … it’s weird how it’s “never about the money”, but he’s always p** about the Braves and money. JS, you’re on poimt with everything today … what happened?

PS: Can you please go a few articles with mentioning Obama … we get it. You have man love for him. We don’t need to hear about it every article.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

February 10, 2009 11:54 AM | Link to this

www.thesaturdayeveningsportsblog.blogspot.com

Researched and put my spin on whether or not A-Rod is telling the truth. Hope you enjoy…

By Poorbrave

February 10, 2009 12:12 PM | Link to this

Hope Glavine moves on and lets the younger pitchers have at it. Believe Wren would want it that way too.

No pet project, no ear marks, no pork etc. sounds like the Pres also has a problem telling the truth along with A-rod.

Maybe after Cards released Kennedy 2b, they will be interested in trade for Kelly J for a big bat in OF.

By Bernie

February 10, 2009 12:22 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry… if you snort a foreign substance from a toilet lid in a stall of a bathroom with another man…it doesn’t matter what you weigh.

Bernie’sDawgBlawg

By Doctor Henry

February 10, 2009 12:48 PM | Link to this

U’r rite on today JS…..Good columm….I actually agree with everything U said.

By Legend of Len Barker

February 10, 2009 1:10 PM | Link to this

Right on, Jeff.

I’m losing more and more respect for every single baseball player as the days roll on. Everyone is guilty here.

The players using - and I wouldn’t be shocked if Caminiti was right and it was 80+% - are certainly guilty. Their teammates are guilty for not reporting it and otherwise letting it continue. Managers are guilty for playing the users, despite how obvious it was and is in some cases. The GMs are guilty for signing them. The owners are guilty for paying them. Donald Fehr is guilty for being a whole bunch of expletives. Most importantly, Selig is guilty for money grubbing over the fans and players’ health.

I have heavy suspicions that at least four or five Braves were using a few years ago. Probably even now on a couple of them. Steroids aren’t the only illegal thing to use to try to improve your career.

By leland

February 10, 2009 1:31 PM | Link to this

Dear Mr. JS—the problem with Jamal Anderson is that he ain’t got no eyebrows. Your pal, Leland

By bravesfanbob

February 10, 2009 1:41 PM | Link to this

Why, if A-Rod decided during spring training of 2003 that the steroids (OOPS…Banned substance), did he test positive later in the year for them, HMMMMM…

I respect the fact he admitted using, but tell the truth. You can’t tell me he didn’t know where he got them, or what he was taking. Don’t throw the S.I. reporter under the bus, either. This was YOUR fault.

Yes, I believe Texeria was using, along with Gallaragga, who developed cancer twice from it. I do believe there were a few Braves using, too. My hope is we find out all who used, so we can be fair to everyone as to their HOF credentials.

By RW, (the oravaginal)

February 10, 2009 1:54 PM | Link to this

I think I’ve been banned by every blog except wootens. Do you believe i only lasted six hours at Huffington.com. The newyork times cancelled MY subscription. I tried to facebook Osama Bin Laden on Aj Jezeera and was given a mild electric shock, but I was holding a curling iron at the time so it probably…..

By C tha 1

February 10, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this

Jeff this is just a shot in the dark, but do you believe that the Braves clubs from ‘91-03 got screwed because they faced teams that were checkered with juiced players? That’s assuming they were completely clean themselves. On the other hand they faced Barry Bonds on a consistant basis and owned him, and regardless what anyone think he was the best baseball player juiced or not during that time span. Your thoughts…

By I said it once, i'll say it again...

February 10, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this

Screw Glavine.

He is throwing IT in the Braves and Braves-fans faces again. Anyone backing him at this point is a fool.

By Jeff Schultz

February 10, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

Notre Don’t Sorry about us being in agreement. I’ll try not to let it happen again. …. You think I have man love for Obama? Really? Where’s that come from? …. Bernie: Context, my man. Cocaine addicts generally are thin. Just saying he’s probably not an addict. …Bravesfanbob: I’m sure A-Rod’s not going to name his dealer on ESPNl, if he names him at all. As for what kind of drugs he took, I posted a response about this on my column. (click over there. cross-promotion.) Is it really that improbable? I could see where he knew he was taking steroids and he knew the effects of the steroids but he didn’t know the name. That’s very easy to believe. Think of taking a pain killer the doctor gives you. Two weeks later, you only remember you took a pain killer, not the name of the drug. At least I don’t. It’s funny to me that A-Rod’s getting pounded for that …. JS

By MountainDawg

February 10, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this

Not to condone the “juice use”, but there’s no doubt it’s more prevalent in all major sports…NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, MMA (UFC) & probably even NASCAR, pro tennis, etc. The high dollars/revenue baits many to compromise.

By MLBalls

February 10, 2009 3:04 PM | Link to this

Everyone needs to shut up about the juice in baseball like baseball is some sacred institution. EVERYBODY and I mean EVERYBODY went into a fenzy when McGuire and Sosa were hitting 70+ MOSTER SHOTS out of stadiums all over the country. Thousands a flashs going off every time one of them swung a bat. It was exciting. McGuire would appear at press conferense showing off two arms that looked like a normal man’s thighs. Everyone watched in amazement. He admitted then, “I take Andro and creatine.” No one said a word; all the while knowing ANDRO was short for any number of substances that are ONLY NOW BANDED (not back then). NOT A WORD FROM BASEBALL or anyone else for that matter.
It was entertainment and NO ONE wanted it to stop. Stadiums filled if the Cardinals or Cubs were in town. Owners were not about the say anything. No one else was either, we were all enjoying the performances far too much to say anything.
IF THE TRUTH BE TOLD a huge percentage of people would again fill the stadiums all over the country and would not give a &% about how they were hitting the MONSTER SHOTS just to have a chance at seeing those kind of performances again. NOW ADMIT IT!!! Yes, I know all about the danger in the abuse of many of these substance, BUT before you start judging all these athletes, remember how you acted when you were watching McGuire and Sosa in a Home Run Derby. AND what would you give to see something like that again??? IT IS ENTERTAINMENT AND THAT IS ALL IT IS no different than Hollywood with enhanced bodies or NASCAR with enhanced automobiles or anything else we ALL watch for ENTERTAINMENT.

By Ted Striker

February 10, 2009 3:59 PM | Link to this

On Glavine: He may be holding his tongue because he doesn’t want fans to remember he was paid $4 million PER VICTORY last year. At that rate the Braves couldn’t afford him.

Indication Anderson is Not a Habitual User: Cocaine users don’t carry joints around in their pockets. Do you think people do coke so they can then smoke a joint and take the edge off their high? Besides, do you see Jamal Anderson inviting a random 20 year old geek into his bathroom stall to share HIS coke? (Larry Craig, mebbe, but that’s a different 4 letter word with “c” and “k”)

More reasons I don’t believe Anderson normally does cocaine: NONE of my former coke dealers would be caught dead selling to someone they suspected of being a pothead. When’s the last time you ever heard of a guy being busted while buying pot and coke from the same guy? NEVER. If someone ever offers to sell you coke and pot at the same time, they’re either trying to rip you off or they’re a cop. Cocaine and Pot: the twain shall not meet.

A final thought. If you’re ever going to do coke in Snellville, be sure that the mayor isn’t in the restroom. According to today’s report, he’ll have a police escort in the bathroom with him to hand him toilet paper and make sure the bogeyman doesn’t get him.

I’d write more, but suddenly I’m feeling unusually restless and I think I need to phone my sponsor……..

By sloppy

February 10, 2009 4:03 PM | Link to this

I got a giggle out of arod acting all indignant and questioning canseco’s trustworthiness in his interview. Hehe. You mean the one who spoke the truth about you while you were lying through your quarter of a billion paycheck. Its looking like canseco is the only one who’s interested in the truth (regardless of what an a* he is). Only 103 more left from that particular list huh. Baseball’s good for nothing now but putting my toddler to sleep on a hot summer night.

By Jeff Blauser

February 10, 2009 4:13 PM | Link to this

A Brave who juiced? Two of ‘em - and they were on the same team: Sheff and Javy 2004.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

February 10, 2009 4:47 PM | Link to this

Bud Selig and the Lords of Baseball are to blame for this. The whole world knew what was going on but they looked the other way. The money was rolling in and they didn’t care. I can’t believe Selig makes $18.5 million. $18,500 would be about what he’s worth.

By Legend of Len Barker

February 10, 2009 4:58 PM | Link to this

Jeff,

I believe A-Rod did know what he was taking. It’s not like a prescribed pain killer than is taken over the course of two weeks and forgotten. Steroids are cycled. Do some, give your body some time off, and do a bit more. If he was constantly taking without cycling, I would think that he would have had major muscle and bone damage.

He himself admits to using from 2001-03, though I believe that timespan is longer. If he didn’t know the name of what he was putting in his system during that duration, he’s a complete loon and fool. Rodriguez is neither of these things, based on his well-crafted and evasive answer given to Gammons (who is a ESPN yes man who isn’t going to probe anybody).

I have no doubt in my mind he knew the name of what he was taking and where he got it from.

Atlanta fans,

Please don’t be naive enough to think that the Braves were squeaky clean.

Two former Braves have been named: Gary Sheffield and John Rocker was in the Mitchell Report (Remember how temperamental he was? Quite possibly a side effect of steroids). They aren’t the only two I suspect in the 1990s or 2000s. I’m visualizing the various lineups and am going station-to-station and around the outfield looking at players with one sore thumb big season or who seemed to break down with muscle-related injuries.

Look at the lineup now. There is one Braves’ hero that is noticeably smaller than he used to be.

Overall, let’s quit being naive. Our patronage of baseball has sent the wrong signal that we support the degradation of the sport. We need to ask questions.

Baseball itself needs a hero - and it isn’t Curt Schilling - to step up and say they refuse to play until the playing field is equal and there are clear repercussions for violators. Most important, there needs to be a random testing system by an independent agency. There doesn’t need to be a “three strikes” system. First-time offenders need to be dealt with quickly, harshly, and publicly.

By Scottbravesfan

February 10, 2009 5:12 PM | Link to this

They do it in all sports. They do it in college and high school sports as well. I knew guys when I was in high school in the late 90s that were doing steroids that played football. They do it in cycling for god sake you don’t think they are going to do it in the actual physical sports?

GET YOUR HEAD OUR OF THE SAND PEOPLE!

By Ted Striker

February 10, 2009 5:20 PM | Link to this

Coach Paul Johnson does steroids!!!!!!!!!

42-45!!!!! 42-45!!!!!!!

Citizens Arrest!!!!!Citizens Arrest!!!!!!

Take that Tech fans!!!!!!

(Sorry, I fell off the wagon)

Sincerely,

Ted

By fieldofdreams

February 10, 2009 5:43 PM | Link to this

You know things are bad when the owners make Jose Canseco look like Honest Abe Lincoln(and/or Nostradamus). By the way, didn’t Chipper “accidentally” call out A-Fraud a while back on the steroids thing, then plead ignorance after the fact? On Glavine; he used up all his “mentor” value in New York, and when he left Atlanta - with his middle finger extended to the Braves and their fans- he forfeited his “elder statesman” points, too. Not only that, he beat the hell out of us last year, $8million for 2 meaningless wins. Hopefully he’ll get a better offer from Seattle, or Tokyo, or Perth, and head that way.

By Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

February 10, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this

I disagree on the assertion that Glavine has been low balled.

The Mets signed Tim Redding for one year to a 2.25 million dollar contract. He won 10 games for the Nationals last season.

The Phillies Kyle Kendrick won 11 games last year. He makes the league minimum.

My advice, Glavine should shut up and take the damn money. The Hall of Fame lefty has made 128 million during his career, he ain’t hardly hurting for cash.

By Gary

February 10, 2009 7:06 PM | Link to this

A toilet Jamal? I guess he hasn’t seen the gotee that grows on a mens room throne. It seems to grow a bit better under the sit down seat.

By Bullwinkle

February 10, 2009 10:52 PM | Link to this

I agree with Legend of Len Barker wholeheartedly. ARoid and Selig think we are all so naive. Selig is a wuss. Baseball needs a Kennesaw Mountain Landis in the worst way. Mr. Commissioner, clean up this mess for the sake of the game.

By 74Dawg

February 10, 2009 11:22 PM | Link to this

Jeff, I love Glav,Smoltzie and Maddux. But that day is past. The Braves need to present a fresh product without the baggage of last years injuries. That was my worst year as a Braves fan since 1987 and 1988. It just sucked from the start and got worse from there. Bring in some of the kids and see what they can do. The first four look solid for the first time in three years or more. # 5 is an audition spot.Bobby Cox has proven if you give him 4 good starters,he will get you in the playoffs. A little more offense is all they need.

By Michael

February 11, 2009 1:26 AM | Link to this

Perhaps MLB should put Jose Canseco in charge of this whole steroid investigation thing. People trashed his books yet he somehow keeps getting it right. Either he knows more than anybody else or it’s akin to someone claiming that you’re most likely to hit a number less than 20 on a dart board.

By Ken Stallings

February 11, 2009 3:23 AM | Link to this

ESPN suspended Scott van Pelt for doing a journalist’s job! Did not know that happened, thanks for informing your readers. Jeff, I think it’s time for all sports journalists to take off the kid gloves and really hammer the over-the-top commercialism inherent to ESPN since Disney acquired ABC and turned these three into the Syncophantic-Three!

For the record, of all the remaining anchormen at ESPN, Scott van Pelt is the one remaining whom I think has refused to sell his soul. I’ll never forget the poignant descriptions he read regarding the last Army-Navy game, saying it means much more than merely a football game.

By vermont 39

February 11, 2009 8:13 AM | Link to this

Baseball is a white collar game —-white collar crimes—like stealing money from the public under the guise of doing nice things, goes unnoticed and pretty much un-punished —-lawyers clean up the details.

It’s a sham!!! Let them do all the PEDs they want!!

I pay for the best show…if I want little League, I’ll stay local!!! Bring on the Gladiators!!!!

By GTSteve

February 11, 2009 10:05 AM | Link to this

If Glavine thinks he is being lo-balled, he needs to look at his salary for last year and his total of innings pitched. I think it was 8 Mil for 2 or 3 wins……….

By Steve

February 11, 2009 12:57 PM | Link to this

Or better yet, Glavine signed a 1 year deal and only pitched for a few months, why doesnt he just pitch this year for free, I doubt he can finish the season anyhow.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

February 11, 2009 3:18 PM | Link to this

Baseball is dead! I will never watch it again. Records shouldn’t even be kept anymore and the Hall of fame should be shut. Baseball is as phony as wrestling but doesn’t have the same entertainment value.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

February 11, 2009 3:19 PM | Link to this

Baseball is dead! I will never watch it again. Records shouldn’t even be kept anymore and the Hall of fame should be shut. Baseball is as phony as wrestling but doesn’t have the same entertainment value.

By Pedagogue's Demagoguery

February 11, 2009 5:00 PM | Link to this

Schultz’s pleas to come clean sound like Bruce Dern did when told Clint Eastwood to “Let us go…..just let us go, hell, we outweigh you, you can say we jumped you, and it’s not like we’re gonna be around to call you a liar”, in the movie “Hang ‘em High”.

Tom Glavine should take it? Jeff, it’s show ME the money, not show the owner the money. You had me at the Good Ship Lollypop reference. . And dont call me Shirley.

But still this is a 1000x better than the techno twins on the opinion page.

By Brookhaven Braves Fan

February 11, 2009 6:47 PM | Link to this

Wren needs to get off his high horse and bring Glavine back with a $3M salary (no incentive laden insult) plus a firm offer for Glavine to move directly into the Braves front office starting November 1, 2009.

It must be really difficult for Wren to do his job, what with all those pesky World Series hero’s hanging around. The Braves have been an exemplary organization for so many years. They need to get it right so that Glavine, Smoltz, (and soon Chipper), will all want to stick around post-career to help groom the wave of talent that will arrive in 2011.

Get it together Wren.

By Ross

February 12, 2009 4:55 AM | Link to this

I was in St. Louis during McGwire mania. My suspicions, aroused by the power surge of Griffey Jr, were confirmed by McGwire, who I remembered as a skinny rangy kid in the late 80s. I pointed this out to the rabid Cardinal fans, the best in baseball. I was practically run out of any tavern where I dared to point out that his majestic homeruns were probably originating in his juiced muscles.

Are the players at fault? Of course - but baseball fans have become stupid, desensitized by ESPN and rock-video highlight edits. No one plays small ball, and no one cares. The fault lies not in our stars, but ourselves.

-drl

By Preacher Joe

February 12, 2009 12:20 PM | Link to this

Boycott Professional Sports until no player will ever again earn more than $25,000 a year.

Think about it! It is a game!

Wanted: Part-time position needed filled. Must have one glove and spiked shoes. Only work during summer months, so you can keep the teacher job and those benefits. Free bubble gum and sunflower seeds. Must be willing to travel. All applicantsz must clear a pre-employment drug screen. No steroid users need apply.

By kool$kat

February 12, 2009 1:22 PM | Link to this

I have to refute MLBalls post at 3:40 yesterday - You cannot say we all watched and celebrated Sosa and McGwire’s inflated HR chase…being a longtime baseball fan, I cried foul! You have two guys, years apart, that reached 60 HRs. The Babe and Maris. Other than those, you have a handful of 50 HR seasons, and then the elite HR hitters who reached 40 in their careers. Then all of a sudden, two guys go for 70? And then Bonds. at an age when he should be declining, eclipses the new record again? Meanwhile every decent hitter in the league is hitting 20-30 HRs? If not 40? Anybody that denied something was wrong had their head in the sand. And if you think pitchers on steroids makes it even out, you’re foolish! Yeah it prolonged Clemens career, but even if it added 5 mph to his fastball, thats not the same as adding 100 ft to fly balls, which turns cans of corn into dingers!!

By Herschworld

March 5, 2009 11:31 AM | Link to this

Jeff, You are a complete Hack, only a hack would continue to use the top ten format… He says Tom Hicks is an absolute tool, well you sir are a tool as well…I’d really like to rip your glasses off your pathetic looking face and just stomp on them until they’re just all broken and crushed…you suck

By Herschworld

March 5, 2009 11:34 AM | Link to this

you should move to Vegas and become an Andy Dick impersonator

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