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When in doubt, don’t sweat: Just bet Gwinnett

Lots of folks think I’m biased when doing rankings, and they’re right.

One of my pet biases is Gwinnett County. That doesn’t mean that I root for Gwinnett teams, and I certainly didn’t predict Grayson to beat Lowndes.

But let’s face it: Gwinnett is metro Atlanta’s football mecca, if not the state’s. TEN teams from Gwinnett have made the semifinals this decade, four this season.

That’s why Grayson, despite its modest history, was ranked so highly in preseason. You don’t sweat when you bet Gwinnett.

Now, a holiday gift for all. Below, find at least one interesting fact about each of the 20 semifinal teams, including a prestigious record that Marist set last week that I bet not even fans of Marist know about.

CLASS AAAAA

Camden County - Camden has the best record in Class AAAAA since Jeff Herron arrived in 2000. It’s 106-11. Parkview (98) and Lowndes (96) are next in wins. However, Camden has played only two playoff games under Herron on an opponent’s home field. Both were wins: Stephenson (2002) and Valdosta (2003). Camden is at Newnan this week.

Grayson - The Rams are 60-30 in their first eight full seasons of varsity football. That’s the best eight-year start to a program in Gwinnett County history. Next best is Brookwood’s 57-34 from 1982 to 1989.

Newnan - Seventeen schools have gone more than 25 years between state championship appearances, most recently Lovett (1970-2007), but Newnan can become the first school to do it twice. Newnan played for the title in 1951 and 1981, both losses. The longest stretch between state title games is Calhoun’s 52 years (1953-2005).

Peachtree Ridge - Bill Ballard is the second coach this decade to reach the semifinals with two schools. The first was Bruce Miller (2001 North Forsyth, 2002 Gainesville). Ballard went in 2003 with Tucker.

Class AAAA

Marist - The Eagles set a record last week with their 25th consecutive home victory in the state playoffs. The record of 24 was held by Thomas County Central (1987-2006). Thomas Central still holds the record for consecutive home wins in the post-season with 27. Three of TCC’s wins were region playoff games. Region playoffs were eliminated in 1996, when the GHSA expanded the state playoffs to 32 teams. Marist also has won 43 of its last 44 home post-season games, the only loss to Tucker in 1995.

Griffin - Griffin High has sent 16 players into the NFL, the most of any Georgia school. The best known is Jessie Tuggle. Those still active are Chris Clemons and Johnathan Sullivan. Ironically, Griffin has the fewest players on college rosters this year among the AAAA semifinal teams, with six. Tucker has the most with 26.

Rome - The Wolves broke a six-game losing streak in the quarterfinals with Friday’s win over Statesboro. A seventh straight loss would’ve set a dubious state record. Others with six straight losses in the QF are Carrollton (1999-current); Dacula (1993-01); Northside-WR (1975-98); and Vidalia (1980-93).

Tucker - The semifinals have been heart-breaking for Tucker, which lost to Dublin (1994) and Statesboro (2003) in overtime and to Northside (2007) 31-28 after holding a 28-7 lead. Tucker is 1-6 all-time in semifinal games.

Class AAA

LaGrange - The Grangers are in a race with fellow semifinalists Marist and Buford to see which will become the fourth in history to play in 10 state championship games. The Dime Club members are Valdosta (27), Lincoln County (18) and Carrollton (11). Clarke Central also would have 10 if combined with Athens High, but Poll Talk splits the two.

Carver - Carver is the only team that’s made the SF each of the past three seasons. No other Muscogee County team has made three straight SF. The state record for consecutive SF is 10 by Carrollton (1959-68).

Cairo - This will be the eighth semifinal for Cairo. The first two were played in 1963 and 1964, when Cairo’s star player was future Outland Trophy winner Bill Stanfill. Cairo lost those semifinals, but in basketball, Cairo won the 1965 title, and the 6-5 Stanfill was named tournament MVP.

Flowery Branch - No Hall County team has won a state title in the GHSA. Hall has more schools (nine, counting private and city schools) than any county that doesn’t have a state championship. Riverside Military won a GISA title in 2005, and Fair Street won GIA titles in 1956 and 1957. Gainesville High has made 16 semifinals without winning state. This will be the first semifinal for Flowery Branch, which opened in 2002.

CLASS AA

Brooks County - Maurice Freeman is trying to become the second coach in history to return to a school where he won a state title and win it again. Freeman won with Brooks in 1994. Luther Welsh did it with Thomson in 1984-85 and 2002 with two stops in between.

Buford - The Wolves have 31 former players on college rosters this fall. That’s the most of any of the 20 teams in the semifinals. Buford’s opponent, Fitzgerald, has only two players in college football. Also, see LaGrange note above.

Calhoun - It’s 310.5 miles from Calhoun to Brooks County, making this the longest road trip in Calhoun football history. (Camden’s trip to Newnan is even further.) Calhoun has played below Macon only once since 1948, losing to Cook in the 2001 quarterfinals. Calhoun is trying to win its first road playoff game since 1996 and third in history.

Fitzgerald - Fitzgerald has won 10 games each of the past five seasons. The only other schools with streaks that long are Northside (11), Buford (10), Calhoun (8), Camden County (8), Lincoln County (6) and Dublin (5).

CLASS A

Wesleyan - By making a final four for the first time, Wesleyan is now among 10 Gwinnett schools to make the semis this decade. The others are Brookwood (2002, 2005), Buford (2000-04, 2007-08), Dacula (2005), GAC (2002), Grayson (2008), North Gwinnett (2007), Parkview (2000-02, 2004), Collins Hill (2001) and Peachtree Ridge (2006, 2008).

Lincoln County - Lincoln is 18-6 in semifinals under Larry Campbell, who came to Lincolnton in 1972. Lincoln has never gone more than two seasons without making the semis under Campbell.

ECI - The victory in Bremen last week was the first playoff game that ECI has ever won on an opponent’s home field. The Bulldogs did win the Class A title game last year on the road after Wilcox County moved the game to Cordele.

Wilkinson County - Wilkinson is one of four semifinal teams that were unranked in preseason. The others are Brooks County (AA), Calhoun (AA) and Peachtree Ridge (AAAAA).

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By Wolverine Fan

November 30, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

Camden County did not impress me at all. All the pre-game hype of the game against Woodstock being over at the half was nutts. Newnan should take care of them with no problem at all.

By T.J.

November 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Todd, Cool facts, good stuff as usual. After this weekend I would be interested in changes or how you stand behind your previous posts. Would you rank the regions different, is Region 1 AAAAA overated, and how tempted are you to say I told you so to all the bloggers that said you were off your rocker. You have to feel pretty good.

I will say the stars lined up right for Grayson to win that game. The coin flip, the rain, the crowd, and homefield. Coach Conn gave a good interview with someone where he talked about prayer sessions so lets throw that in their favor too. It was like it was meant to be for Grayson. As I predicted, if the stars lined up right they could win. But I confess….I did say Lowndes would be in the dome too. I was completely bi-polar!!! Did you watch the Grayson game? Grayson and Lowndes are alot a like other than the sportsmanship. Here are some story ideas or points of interests you might want to write about.

Wing T vs. the Spread offense….which is better for highschools to run. I think Lowndes, Grayson, and Camden all run the Wing T. Newnan?

Defense does win championships! Last 4 teams in AAAAA have the best defenses.

Better teams win than better star power. Team ball and coaching are winning games for sure.

This is getting long…this happens when I can not blog for days on end. Good work Todd.

By HSrealfan

November 30, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Marist v. Rome is going to be the best game in 4A. Marist has come off a very close win against Mt. Zion, while Rome beat Stateboro. Come out and see them play!!!

By WACO-FAN

November 30, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

Todd Holcomb THIS HISTORY LESSON WAS GREAT I LEARND A LOT ABOUT THE SEMI TEAMS….AND ANY FAN THAT WILL TRAVEL OVER 5HR TO A GAME IS A TRUE FAN!!!!!

By WACO-FAN

November 30, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Todd Holcomb I WOUNDER WHAT TEAM IN THE SEMI RUN THE WING-T THE BEST…

By Sanity Rules

November 30, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

The only place in Georgia where you can see two nationally ranked high schools will be in Newnan . It should be classic semi-final game. A lot of fun to watch.

By Bear_Backer_1

November 30, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

                     **GO GRIFFIN BEARS !!**

Thanks for the info Todd, but please dont forget that Griffin also produced a Hall Of Famer in Mr. Rayfield Wright. (from Fairmont High in Griffin) Plenty of talent in our area over the years. I would also like to say Best of Luck to our fine neighbors NEWNAN and we miss playing those great teams. A great rivalry that used to be. GO COUGARS and GO BEARS!!

By Gamer

November 30, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd, You took two days before developing a subject which bloggers could respond. Lowndes Fans beat a lot of people up on this blog concerning their false belief that the AAAAA Championship was theirs regardless of other competitive teams. Now, we see at last the trash talkers led by Viking Fan 1, Viking Dad, Plow Boy, and their Chief of Staff—YO have to eat a big crow that was gaining weight since Lowndes hung around so long. I don’t care who wins now that Lowndes is home slicking their wounds. They even wanted even want to fight the RAMS. No class!

By Michael

November 30, 2008 7:58 PM | Link to this

I think that the Newnan Camden game will be the best game in the state. After the numerous upsets last week, I can’t predict the winner..I just know it will be an outstanding game. However, Camden appears to be more battle tested this year because they beat Norcross High School, Columbia High School (Fla school), the Alabama powerhouse Hoover High School (they won numerous state champanionships and was on MTV two a days) and Northside Warner Robins (won two state championships) this year. I have to admit that Camden’s non-region schedule was very impressive.

By Another Fact

November 30, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

In their final game of the playoffs, the last four remaining 1AAAAA teams were outscored 115 to 27. Two of the four 1AAAAA teams were shutout and one only scored one touchdown.

By cool cell

November 30, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Todd who you got Carver or Cario? and why?

By Camden County Fact*

November 30, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

When you state records set by Camden County please follow with an *. The overwhelming majority of those 106 wins you referenced were against smaller classification schools.

By Columbia Blue

November 30, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

WOLVERINE FAN

Your right, we (Camden) wer not very impressive last Friday night vs your Wolverines. I think that had a lot to do with your team. You guys played a great game. It was really nice to see fans, players and coaches demonstrate sportmanship. Wolverine, you guys are a class act and I wish you all the luck in years to come. I hope Camden can play as well as it did against Nortside and Hoover this Friday vs Newnan. Newnan is a great team and we will have to play our best to win. Maybe our kids will turn it up a notch like we did in the second half of the Woodstock game. Once again, congratulations on a great year and I wish you and your team good luck next season

By fish

November 30, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

To TJ referencing the Grayson game….all those things you mentioned are true…the stars aligning and such, but the real kick in the pants is that Grayson’s defense is the best I’ve seen in over 16 years coaching: Fast, hard hitting and disciplined - they are not over-rated. They also run the wing t to near perfection. The pulling guards, jet sweeps….string them out, spread them out then hit the middle….about as good as it gets. As far as the sportsmanship of Lowndes, you have to give them a pass for that. I don’t think those kids have been that frustrated in years…….

By ronlinjenk

November 30, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

Tucker went down to Macon and represented well. Two turnovers in the first half and Tucker still kept to the game plan and basically man handled Westside Macon. It was a great game. Tucker could have scored again at the end but chose to run the clock out inside Westside Macon’s 20.

By Lowndes Fact

November 30, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

The Valdosta Daily News stated in an article that both Lowndes and Grayson were involved in the “melee”. Wrong. Lowndes could not take being dominated on the field and became frustrated. Once they started arguing and fighting among themselves they were beat. No one should like to lose but you take your medicine and learn from it. Their program showed a total lack of descipline, class and sportsmanship. Lowndes High School administration should post a written appology to the state in the AJC. But I doubt it will be done; that would take class.

By Columbia Blue

November 30, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

* To Camden County Fact*

All you need to know is 5 out of the last seven years Camden appeared in the final four and won a State Championship

By TheRealCamdenWildcat

November 30, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

1-AAAAA is the SEC huh!!! More like the whack, I mean the WAC!!! Good game be Woodstock, no excuses from Camden, we just survive and advance, thats the name of the game in the playoffs this year,,, on to Newnan.

By Fair Play Fan

November 30, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Todd, Did I read that correctly when you said, “Marist only post-season lost out of 44 appearances was to Tucker in 1995”. What about their lost in the 2006 State AAAA Championship game to NSWR? Maybe you meant something different.

By Todd Holcomb

November 30, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

Camden County did not impress me at all. All the pre-game hype of the game against Woodstock being over at the half was nutts.

Yes, it was. But I’d also caution against judging a team too harshly on one game. It was a perfect set up for a letdown. Camden has come back in the fourth quarter twice now to win playoff games. And this was a team that never was in a close game until Week 11.

Having said that, I think I might favor Newnan in the semis. More on that later.

how tempted are you to say I told you so to all the bloggers that said you were off your rocker.

It’s very tempting! But what goes around comes around. I’m still the one who picked Hart County as preseason No. 1 in 2007. ( :

But doing the rankings for three years and getting the feedback about them on this blog has made me a much better ranker. By having to answer for my rankings here every week, it forces me to justify where I place every team in the state. I don’t want to look too stupid.

Frankly, not much fooled me this season. My instincts are better, partly thanks to this crowd keeping my feet to the fire. Or maybe it was just a more predictable year.

As for Lowndes, I think that those blowout wins in the state finals vs. Brookwood and North Gwinnett gave Lowndes and Region 1 a false sense of security about the supremacy of their teams.

What Parkview did from 2000 to 2002 and what Roswell & P-Ridge did in 2006 were not flashes in the pan. They happened because there are great players and coaches in metro Atlanta that must be reckoned with on an annual basis now. And remember that Harrison won at Lowndes last season, and Chattahochee won at Camden County. Yes, those were upsets, but perhaps so was the margin of victory in those c’ship games that Lowndes won.

If you don’t follow the metro teams, it’s hard to comprehend how teams such as Peachtree Ridge and Grayson can be good so quickly. I wonder if Lowndes didn’t respect Grayson they way they would’ve respected Northside or Camden. How many Lowndes players had heard of Grayson before this year?

None of this is meant as a criticism of Lowndes. It’s actually a compliment. Winning four state titles in 10 seasons is a hell of an accomplishment when you consider how good football is all over Georgia, not just around the Warner Robins-Valdosta-Kingsland triangle. In an ironic way, I expect that Lowndes fans are more proud of those accomplishments now than they were last week. There are so many good teams out there.

By To Columbia Blue

November 30, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

Fact: Camden gets an automatic #1 seed because thet’re the only true AAAAA school in region 3AAAAA. Fact: Camden doesn’t have the injury situation most other AAAAA schools face because of “playing-down” they get ahead and rest their starters. Fact: Because of a 1 seed Camden doesn’t play a competitive team until the semi’s. Fact: Over the years Camden is only .500 against competitive schools. Fact: Camden has a long 342 mile trip back to Kingsland after being defeated by Newnan (now you know what its like to play on an opponents homefield in the playoffs). Fact: Your coach will likely end up moving to a 1AAAAA, 7AAAAA or 8AAAAA school once another high school opens in Camden County and pulls players away from your program. Fact: Camden will long be forgotten in a few years, kind of like Valdosta.

By What Michael??

November 30, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

Re:”the Alabama powerhouse Hoover High School (they won numerous state champanionships and was on MTV two a days)”. When you’re talking high school football, ‘Alabama’ and ‘powerhouse’ should not be used in the same sentence. That’s like bragging about catching a jumbo shrimp; it’s still a shrimp.

By Drock08

November 30, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

To Michael and the rest of the state. Newnan have not played nobody. We know Camden played Mighty Hoover Norcross and some .500 team from FLA in their preregion competition and we played a terrible Lagrange team who have played nobody this year and our Lucky to be in the playoffs. Camden looks like the real deal and we somehow keep finding a way to beat a bunch of JV teams. Camden wins easily.

By Fair Play Fan

November 30, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

To: BY The RealCamdenWildcat, Come on guy! Don’t put down a South Ga team or the 1AAAAA conference. When one south Georgia team loses we pull for the other. I would never pull for you guys to lose to Newnan. Now, suppose you did—You wouldn’t feel good if all 1AAAAA fans sent you nasty blogs about your lost. We have to stick together.

By Gwinnett Fan

November 30, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Too bad the Lions don’t get to take a shot at Lowndes. As for the sportsmanship issue, Coffee seemed to have a bit of trouble with that on Friday as well… do 1-AAAAA teams always resort to dirty football when the game is out of reach? I commend their fans for filling the visitor’s side bleachers, but the players and coaches cannot seem to handle being outclassed on the field. As far as I saw, PTR only taunted Coffee once (one of the JV RBs front-flipped into the end zone on the game’s final TD), but the kid will not be on the sideline next week and sure got an earful from the coach.

By Todd Holcomb

November 30, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

hanks for the info Todd, but please dont forget that Griffin also produced a Hall Of Famer in Mr. Rayfield Wright.

Very good, Bear Backer. I was aware that Wright is from Griffin. So was Morris ‘Rocket’ Stroud, another Fairmont grad.

Did I read that correctly when you said, “Marist only post-season lost out of 44 appearances was to Tucker in 1995”. What about their lost in the 2006 State AAAA Championship game to NSWR? Maybe you meant something different.

Sorry, I meant home games. Marist has won 43 of its last 44 home games in the playoffs.

Todd who you got Carver or Cario? and why?

Cairo. Isn’t Jarvis Jones out? It was a tight game last season, and Cairo has more of those star players back this time. Plus, Cairo has been waiting for this game for a year.

By Columbia Blue

November 30, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

Please get your facts straight. Camden plays in the region that is assigned by the GHSA. We have no control over the assigned region. My asumption is that you the blogger will determine what region teams play. If that is the case, we would love to get out of region three. Can you help us out. Evidentally you are the professional on region allignment and Camden football history. Keith Maloof is a great fried of mine. Of course he is the head coach at Norcross, Can you please call him and tell him his team is a nobody? Keith is one of the best coaches in the state and his teams are always competitive. Please call Coach Nix at Northside and tell them they are no good as well. We play who is on our schedule. As far as region three, there are many teams that have the numbers to qualify AAAAA status. If you do not mind, call Thomaston tomorrow and complain to them about Camden. In your words, Camden chooses to play down. That is a crock of BS. All you need to know is Camden Has appeared in the final four five out of seven years and won a State Championship.As far as playing on someones home field in the play-offs—-We have never laost since 2000. Can you please list the better teams that we per say went 500 against. Fact—-no I want say that—-read between the lines

By The Football Guru

November 30, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

Hey Another Fact, you have your facts wrong. Region 1 was outscored 125-27 in their beatdowns, not 115-27 as you stated.

By inthatrenches

November 30, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

Todd not to get too far ahead but what are the records for defense? Newnan has only allowed 31 points in 13 games this has got to be close to a record also what is the National record? just curious? just 22 points given up by the first string thanks Todd

By T.J.

November 30, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Gwinnett fan’s post reminds me. Lowndes fans and stands….did not look like 500, not alone the 3,000 they said would travel. Of those that traveled…..They had class. On Comcast, when Grayson scored on that last play they clapped out of respect of being beaten fair and square. Sad that the players for Lowndes lost it. I agree with Todd, I think Lowndes did not expect what Grayson dished.

By BODOG

November 30, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

TO MICHAEL WHAT——-YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALABAMA FOOTBALL, WELL ALABAMA DOES NOT HAVE AS STRONG OF A PROGRAM IN FOOTBALL THAT GEORGIA HAS PERIOD.

TODD HOW DO YOU SEE LAGRANGE VS FLOWERY BRANCH?

By Camden fan in Alexander, VA

November 30, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

First, congrats to the final four. Your teams got to this point because of coaching and persistence. Previous scores doesn’t matter any more. There is no need to justify what region you are in…everyone has played someone from other regions and won. Let’s hope Camden and Newnan is a game to remember. Good luck to all.

By Michael

November 30, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

To: What Michael??

Hoover has been national ranked in the USA Today national HS rankings in the past numerous times so I think their program deserves a little respect. Not many teams have been ranked in the top ten national like Hoover was in the past. I am not a fan of Alabama but I try to be fair and rational in my thoughts. You should try the same.

By BODOG

November 30, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

TO DROCK08……I DONOT LIKE YOU TRASH-MOUTHING MY GRANGERS —LAGRANGE HAS A GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM. WE HAVE ONE OF THE 3 OR 4 BEST DEFENSES IN AAA….OUR RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF……BEFORE YOU GO OFF HALF-COCKED ASK THE TEAMS THAT LAGRANGE PLAYED IN PLAY OFFS IF IT WAS LUCK? DO YOUR HOME WORK FIRST……I VALUE EVERYONE’S OPINION, BUT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT……..

By Real Facts

November 30, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

Camden lost three starters last year to knee injuries. Two starters on defense are out now-one ankle injury, one knee injury. Our best running back missed most of last weeks game against Woodstock. He played only a few plays in the second half. Believe it or not we have injuries just like most all teams do. If you don’t think Camden plays a competitive team until the semi-finals, see Northside Warner Robins and Woodstock, two great football teams. Camden’s non region record since 2000 is 34-8! Our record against region 1-AAAAA during that time is 10-3. Of the eight losses during that time period, three were one point losses and two were three point losses. that’s pretty good football. so for anyone who wants to run our program down, please get your “FACTS” straight!

By Steve

November 30, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this

Todd: In a Lincoln Co. - ECI final in Class A, assuming that both advance Friday, who would you like? Ouhgt to be the best potential title game of the bunch this year! I don’t see ECI stumbling this week, and Lincoln County was impressive on both sides of the ball in its win over Wilcox. AG Middlebrooks is now sitting on 1400 yards for the season, and the Red Decils gave up less than 20 net yards to the Wilcox offense in the second half. Two of the Patriots’ four second-half first downs came via penalty.

My picks to go all the way:

AAAAA - Grayson. Mickey Conn completes a storybook season AAAA - after long (okay, about 3 minutes’ worth) consideration, Tucker finally brings it home in a tight one. AAA - Starring Flowery Bramch as Conderella AA - Buford in a walk. The Wolves are just too powerful all the way down the line. Bufrd would probably give any team in any classification a run for its money. A - In a Lincoln - ECI final, Washaun Ealey (forgive me if I misspelled it) will find the going easier against Florida next year than he will against Lincoln next week. Red Devils by a nose an a smashmouth game.

By BILLY JACK

November 30, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

TODD I WAS AT THE LOWNDES-GRAYSON GAME LOWNDES IS BY FAR THE DIRTIEST TEAM I HAVE EVER SEEN.IT STARTED IN THE FIRST QTR AND NEVER STOPPED AND THE OFFICIALS LET IT ALL GO THOSE ARE THE FACTS.THE PLAYERS WERE EVEN SCREAMING AT THIER OWN COACHES-I WAS THERE I SAW IT.GRAYSON BEAT LOWNDES IN EVERY EAY AND THEY COULDNT STAND IT.

By Yo

November 30, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

hey all..broke my wrist in 2 places Friday and even missed the game. So i’ll mostly be reading from this point on. Great game by Grayson Friday. Same way been winning all year by not turning the ball over. If by the 13th game of the season you cant do the center/qback snap you dont deserve to win. It is just as much a part of the game as blocking, tackling, passing, etc. What was that close to being 14-0 Lowndes in the first quarter, wasnt. Fundamentals do matter. Grayson dominated the 2nd half. Reid 175 yards rushing..I dont call that stopping Reid. Lowndes total offense 189. Maybe the key to beating Lowndes was stopping the rest of the team. Disapointed in the way the game ended but I suppose the moral of that story is in order to learn to be good losers you actually have to lose once in a while. Something tells me the rest of the teams in AAAAA are breathing a big sigh of releif and are practicing with a bigger glimmer of hope in their eyes knowing Lowndes is no longer around. Sometimes the best just doesnt win, but be sure 1AAAAA is still the best. Head to head matchup any day if it were possible (especially this year). You wont a corky kell classic? Make that one happen in the dome one year. Regarding end of the game antics I for one appreciated McPhersons coolness in the situation. You dont win many state championships in recent years by not instilling discipline. You could see it in the eyes of coach at the end of that cheesy video done by the biggest thug of all on YouTube. He was not a happy camper and it had nothing to do with the fact they had just lost.

By Big Fan of 4A

November 30, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Keeping it real, folks—Absolutely amazing that Tucker took out top-ranked Westside, BUT there’s no let up now for the Tigers have a tough game coming up with the Griffin Bears! I think SWD had a better defense than Westside, and was actually much tougher for Tucker beat! Ironically, the Griffin Bears just pulled it out over the SWD Panthers with the same score Tucker had against them, 10-7, so to my mind Tucker better go in fully prepared for anything!

By mistermak

November 30, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

I believe the coin toss is rigged!!!

I sure hope Camden is able to wake up and get prepared for the Newnan game. I was not suprised to see them play so flat against Woodstock. After the NS game a bit of a letdown was almost inevetible. Especially with the Thanksgiving break thrown in there. But I am not making excuses if we play like that agains Newnan we will LOSE!!! We have got to get the emotion back!!!

* GO CATS!!!!!*

By Chris Whitfield

November 30, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

Newnan has only allowed 31 points in 13 games this has got to be close to a record also what is the National record?

I don’t know about national records, but I THINK that the state record for a regular season was the 3 points Dublin gave up in 10 games in 2005. In 1972, SE Bulloch played a 12-game season, winning the state title, and only allowed 31 points with eight shutouts, outscoring their opponents 612-31.

By inthatrenches

November 30, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

2008 AAAAA Semifinal Round Playoff Mini-Guide

Semifinal Round “AAAAA” Playoff Capsules

Region 8#1 – Grayson Rams (13-0-0) Region 7#1 – Peachtree Ridge Lions(11-2-0)

Grayson Semifinals: (1) – 2008 Scoring Offense: 30.2 Scoring Defense: 8.2 Scoring Differential: +24.0

Grayson vs. Playoff Teams: 6-0-0 Grayson 27 Dacula 7 Grayson 24 Parkview 22 Grayson 10 Brookwood 7 Grayson 31 Collins Hill 7 (First Round) Grayson 17 East Paulding 7 (Second Round) Grayson 17 Lowndes 7 (Quarterfinals)

Peachtree Ridge Semifinals: (2) – 2006, 2008 Scoring Offense: 21.3 Scoring Defense: 9.1 Scoring Differential: +12.2

Peachtree Ridge vs. Playoff Teams: 6-2-0 Peachtree Ridge 3 Harrison 13 Peachtree Ridge 7 Lowndes 22 Peachtree Ridge 21 Collins Hill 0 Peachtree Ridge 20 Norcross 7 Peachtree Ridge 19 North Gwinnett 7 Peachtree Ridge 17 Dacula 0 (First Round) Peachtree Ridge 17 Harrison 7 (Second Round) Peachtree Ridge 38 Coffee 0 (Quarterfinals)

Series Record: 1-1-0 2006 – Peachtree Ridge 9 Grayson 0 2007 – Grayson 17 Peachtree Ridge 14

Region 3#1 – Camden County Wildcats (13-0-0) Region 4#1 – Newnan Cougars (13-0-0)

Camden County Semifinals: (6) – 1963, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2008 Scoring Offense: 45.7 Scoring Defense: 8.8 Scoring Differential: +36.9

Camden County vs. Playoff Teams: 8-0-0 Camden County 21 Norcross 6 Camden County 44 Hoover ( AL ) 16 Camden County 69 Windsor Forest 7 Camden County 78 Johnson-Savannah 6 Camden County 31 Bradwell Institute 0 Camden County 49 Creekside 0 (First Round) Camden County 28 Northside-Warner Robins 20 (Second Round) Camden County 18 Woodstock 17 (Quarterfinals)

Newnan Semifinals: (3) – 1981, 2003, 2008 Scoring Offense: 38.9 Scoring Defense: 2.4 Scoring Differential: +36.5

Newnan vs. Playoff Teams: 7-0-0 Newnan 31 (3A) LaGrange 10 Newnan 35 Chapel Hill 3 Newnan 33 Creekside 0 Newnan 12 East Coweta 0 Newnan 55 Johnson-Savannah 0 (First Round) Newnan 42 Tift County 0 (Second Round) Newnan 20 North Gwinnett 3 (Quarterfinals)

Series Record: Camden County leads 2-0-0 2003 – Camden County 20 Newnan 10 (Semifinals) 2005 – Camden County 50 Newnan 0 (First Round)

By Reeze

November 30, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this

First of all Congrats to Grayson ,Ptridge ,Newnan and Camden for your impressive wins….But some of you are getting ahead of yourselves,True region 1-AAAAA took heavy hits in the 2nd and 3rd rounds ….But take a look at each regions top 4 reps in this year’s playoffs….No region in AAAAA comes close to region 1 1-4 ,in level of competetion …..This year Lowndes clearly not the best in AAAAA but still maybe 2nd best depending what Grayson does……Further more all region 1 losses were to #1 seeds…..No shame in losing to Ptridge they’re always solid year in and out . And after seeing Grayson this fall vs WR and how they beat Lowndes , Looking at Grayson I’m seeing another Parkview dynasty in it’s infancy .

By inthatrenches

November 30, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Gotta give credit to a Tucker fan for the AAAAA mini guide hope ya likes!!!

By Newnan Dad 08

November 30, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

Todd…I’ll post this again since my last post didn’t go thru for some reason. Do you know what the record is for the oldest school to play in and win its 1st state title in Georgia? If you know, what school was it and how long did it take before they won the title? Thanks for all you do!

By Bill

November 30, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

MY prediction for the AAAAA championship.Ptree- ridge vs Newnan.

By cj

November 30, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

Come on todd not you too. Carver will show up and put the smack down on cairo. We play team defense. Look at our record at home over the last 3 yrs. Only lost was to nswr by one point. So take a minute and rethink your pick.

By Rome High Fan

November 30, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Marist is a great team and program — but didn’t Rome play Statesboro on Friday? The score and story from that game hasn’t even been posted on the AJC — nobody cares? Matt Connors of Marist ran for 205 yards and a couple scores — darned impressive. P.J. Green of Rome ran for 255 yards and 4 TD’s and doesn’t even get mentioned? Ask Statesboro High about him. No respect for Rome — we love it…..

By GraysonFan2

November 30, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Sanity rules,

Maybe so, but don’t you think people may be a little more interested in the team that just knocked out the number 3 team ranked in the nation? hmm, I think so.

By Bobbylee

November 30, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

At this point, anything can happen.

By inthatrenches

November 30, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

Hey Grayson Ptridgefans Who would you prefer and who do you predict will win the Newnan/Camden game?

By BODOG

November 30, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

TO MICHAEL: I AM BEING RATIONAL ABOUT ALABAMA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL…..YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ONE SCHOOL, AND ONE TEAM. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE STATE OF ALABAMA…. AS FAR AS HOOOVER….JUST LAST YEAR THEY FIRED LONG TIME COACH AT HOOVER; BECAUSE OF PLAYING FAILING PLAYERS, AND OTHER THINGS….HOOVER WAS WIDLY KNOWN IN THE STATE OF ALABAMA AS BEING THE BEST TEAM MONEY COULD BUY….I WAS TALKING TO AN EAST ALABAMA JUST 5 WEEKS AGO, AND HE TOLD ME HIS TEAM WHO IS IN THE ALABAMA PLAYOFFS WAS NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL AS GEORGIA TEAMS…..

By Todd Holcomb

November 30, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

Do you know what the record is for the oldest school to play in and win its 1st state title in Georgia?

That would take some research to confirm, but I suspect it is Emanuel County Institute.

Opened: 1903

First title: 2007

not to get too far ahead but what are the records for defense? Newnan has only allowed 31 points in 13 games this has got to be close to a record also what is the National record?

Americus allowed 8 points in a 14-0 season in 1975. That’s the Georgia record:

http://ghsfha.org/showgamesgy.php?GSEASONID=1975&gTeamID=Americus

The best in the highest classification for a state championship team was 2003 Camden County, which allowed 47.

Other state champs with good numbers — 1976 Lincoln County allowed 33. 1981 Douglass of Montezuma allowed 32.

There probably are others, but I remember researching Camden & the highest class back when it happened.

By SoundGuyCamden

November 30, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this

Camden has also played Hoover High (6A Power House) from Alabama at their home and beat Hoover 44 - 16 who is now in the State Championship this weekend. Camden has several players hurting and Coach Herron will rally the troops and prepare them well! Camden will work hard this week and press on!

By Football fan

November 30, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

get ready Rome for you to win you got to beat the refs they let Marist do what they want and will flag you for everything so get ready for the racial name calling and the cut block they are really dirty so be prepared

By GraysonFan2

December 1, 2008 12:08 AM | Link to this

Ptree Ridge fan

Glad your team is hot. Now Grayson wouldn’t be to hot after beating the number one team in the state now would they. Dont say that like we are not hot, Lowndes underestimated Grayson. They will be coming in with just the right amount of confidence. Should be a great game!

By the way, are you expecting Ptree Ridge to run away with it? lol

By its on

December 1, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

Woodstock played a great game friday.I am not making any excuses how Camden played friday, but we came out flat. Greg Baker wasn’t going to play, but he played in the second half mostly as a decoy; he only had 3 carries because he hurt his ankle against NSWR and our starting tackle(Ryan #99) was bench for the first half for missing weight training.But we still manage to win. If our defense plays GREAT and we don’t turn the ball over, we will win. I don’t think Newnan can stop our offense for the whole game.

By TOBIAS

December 1, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this

GREAT COMMENTS GUYS. A LOT OF GREAT GAMES AND A LOT OF HISTORY TO BE MADE THIS WEEKEND. I’M A TUCKER GRAD WHO PLAYED ON THE TEAM THAT BEAT MARIST IN 95 BUT LOST TO DUBLIN IN THE SEMIFINALS. A STORY BOOK ENDING WOULD BE TO GET MARIST IN THE DOME FOR THE FINALS.

By north ga football

December 1, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this

all year long i heard about how much better south ga football was then north ga football with 3 of the semifinalist from north ga I HATE TO SAY I TOLD YOU SO BUT I TOLD YOU SO AWFUL QUIET NOW wheres lowndes or northside NOW

By Wolverine Senior

December 1, 2008 12:55 AM | Link to this

First off i’d like to say thanks to all the Camden people out there. Ya’ll run a great program down there top to bottom, nice stadium ( love the location away from the school), all the police (escorting the woodstock band from the interstate and back, directing traffic, and the 14+ squad cars behind the endzone), pretty much everything. Loved the fact the firemen were tailgating out of the truck. I didn’t get to go in it or walk around it because the band wasn’t aloud to go away on our own but your weight building impressed me even from where our buses were parked behind the endzone. My jaw dropped in the 3rd/4th quarter when the entire home stands roared on a 3rd down. I could go on but i’ll stop here for the poor AAA fan that doesn’t know or care what i’m talking about. I was highly impressed and will never forget that game/experience. Thank you for a great last game.

Second off i’d like to say SUCK IT to all the people who said we’d be out of it by halftime. I do belive my lit buddy Justin Thompson proved you wrong on the FIRST PLAY OF THE GAME by running past all those 4.2 non-wind aided 40 camden players for 80 yards and a touchdown. (not being raceist but it made me laugh to see a little white boy running past all the black guys that were suppost to run faster than Mr. Primetime)

Third off i’d like to say suck it too all the region one supremisist (sp?) out there. It might just be my georgian education, but i dont seem to see any region one teams in the 4th round. Just sayin.

And Fourth i’d like to appologise to hurrcane camden, i had full intentions of coming and meeting you and talking to you but only time i was let away from the band was halftime and the food line was insane and my buddies in the student section on the 50 wanted to talk. Plus sense they made all the camden people (except for the cocky little freshmen that came and sat next to me in the band >:/ ) i couldn’t find you. I am planning on going to the Newnan game, maybe meet up there?

And speaking of the game lets talk some football. Going into last weeks game i was nervous because i hadn’t heard all that much about camden’s D. And now i know why. Its not that hot. Having to practice against the wing offence they dont get to see much pass so we were able to zing a few time to get out of a bind and we’re run first team. Now i’m no expert and if what i’ve heard about Newnan is right, Camden may be in trouble this week. If a 8 to 2 run to pass team like woodstock can hurt Camden’s secondary, for Camden’s sake i’d hate to see what a balensed/ pass first newnan will do. I think thats one of two things that will determine the game. The other is Camden’s kicking game, or lack there of. Missed 2 extra points??? Really??? For your sake i hope that was a fluke but i dont think it was.

I love ya’ll Camden and no hard feelings but….I like Newnan by 14 + number of touchdowns Camden makes (because thats the number of kicks they’re gonna miss)

By Joseph

December 1, 2008 1:50 AM | Link to this

OK, i was at the Grayson/Lowndes game and as a Lowndes fan Grayson player great football and we did not. Had nothing to do with dirty playing or bad officiating or the weather or how many fans were in the stands, plain and simple Grayson played great football and we did not. Yes Lowndes lost but do not take away from any of the accomplishments they did this season and try to minimize their success. If Grayson plays the way they did Friday night, they will most likely win the championship and rightly so. Congrats to Grayson on a big win and a big applaud to my Mighty Vikings for an amazing season.

By Gwinnett Fan

December 1, 2008 2:24 AM | Link to this

BODOG I would definitely prefer seeing Newnan. Holding NG to a mere 3 points was something no one did all season (albeit, PTR only gave up a kickoff return for a TD). I thought Newnan just had a good offense after seeing all those big point totals, but their defense must be pretty good too.

GraysonFan2 Both teams are playing very well right now. Grayson offense vs. PTR defense should be an awesome matchup. I have to pull for my Lions, though, the offense seems to finally be in tune after thumping Coffee.

Predictions PTR 17 - Grayson 13 Newnan 35 - Camden 24

By GraysonFan2

December 1, 2008 6:09 AM | Link to this

Gwinnettfan,

Dont forget, NG does not have a running game, it was raining. They really need to fix that one!

Grayson 21 Ptree Ridge 7

By hurricanecamden

December 1, 2008 6:20 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Senior I will be to the Newnan game. Not sure where I will be seated or if I will sit down because of the lack of space. Thanks for your compliments. You guys played a good game. Unfortunately you did not get a chance to play the real Camden team. They were lazy. It happpens every year the day after Thanksgiving. I won’t go putting my trust in Newnan just yet. Camden will show up on Friday to Win.

By Fair Play Fan

December 1, 2008 6:57 AM | Link to this

I was at the Tucker-Westside game. I wanted to get a look at Johnathan Davis. He is a fantastic player but the speed of number 25 was amazing. Can a Tucker fan or region six person tell me about him. He is grease lightning—one of the fastest runners I have seen. He appears to be no more than 5’5” maybe, 150. Is he a junior or senior? —Hey maybe a sophmore.

By Fair Play Fan

December 1, 2008 7:04 AM | Link to this

To: By north ga football: I believe you wrongly included NSWR. Prior, to 2008 NSWR played most against Metro Atlanta teams as a member of AAAA. They only played Union Grove (Metro) in the play-off. Besides NSWR is in middle Ga but assigned in 2008 to play in 1AAAAA.

By SGT CHRIS

December 1, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

WOW!!! what a weekend of football that saw westside, baldwin, lowndes, and dunwoody go down (all previously undefeatee).

LOWNDES—Pretty quiet in here. No more “Lowndes will win the state title this year; hand the title to lowndes, why are other teams showing up?” Well i guess you guys got you answer on why teams show up huh?

BALDWIN—Was at the LaGrange-Dunwoody game trying to find friends to go to Milledgeville next week when I learned of the “upset” I guess you can say that was an upset because, come on, who really thought FB would win in baldwin?

DUNWOODY—class acts from the teams to the fans..#s 55 and 52 were the real deal. The tone was set when Qua Huzzie blasted through the line on the first play of the game and hit #21, which was his first and last play of the game. By the way, what was number 23’s problem? did he get ejected? because he didnt seem hurt, but he was throwing a bit of a tantrum on the dunwoody bench. Oh by the way since those Dunwoody backers were saying dunwoody is 1-0 every week, does that mean you guys are now 0-1 on the year (hehehe)???

LAGRANGE—Home in the semis (Callaway Stadium or the dome) has been pretty sweet for us.

This time next week will there be talk of an all 2AAA title game? theres a lot of football left.

Newnan—if you cant see the Camden-Newnan game, you can buy the game in its entirety on dvd from Newnan high school for 20$. Should be a classic

By Rome High Fan

December 1, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

We hear you Football Fan. We aren’t going to worry about the Refs too much because there’s not much you can do about it regardless.

And I don’t expect we’ll worry about name calling and such, particularly if we can be sure they are yelling them while chasing us to the end zone! I think we’ve seen enough cut blocks also so I hope our defense will be prepared - but thanks for the heads up.

Marist is a good enough team they don’t need help from calls so if we focus on that we’ll be out of the game by halftime. I have a feeling our guys will focus on what they control and just play their best.

By 89viking

December 1, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

as i have stated on another forum, congrats grayson. you were the better team last friday. are we lowndes fans ashamed of the way our players acted at the end? yes, very. will our coach correct the way they acted? im sure he will, if he doesnt im sure he will lose respect of alot of our own fans. as far as lowndes feeling “superior”, im not sure superior is the right word, i am thinking overconfident. the reason? 3 state titles in the last 4 years, unbeaten in the last 26. that wil make ANY TEAM overlook a opponent. as ive stated, we lowndes fans will applaud our team and know that the fiasco that happened last friday will not define their whole legacy in lowndes history. good luck to the final 4.

By Homet

December 1, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Viking Mom,lowndesgrad99, cleanfootballfan, and a few others

GIVE IT A REST…At least ADMIT what was going on during the game…Remember the game was TELEVISED so we all got to see REPLAYS!!!

FIRST…YOU GOT BEAT!…GRAYSON WON!!!

They beat you like they have done ALL YEAR…they controlled the ball and kept the LOWNDES offense off the field and on the sideline. They beat EAST the same way last week, with drives that eat up 8, 9, 10+ minutes of the clock!!!

Sure the weather was bad, but it was on BOTH SIDES of the field. Nothing you can say justifies how your team was acting FROM THE START. Very early in the game a ref chased down REID after he made a good play because he was running down the GRAYSON sidelines TAUNTING them!!!

Your “D” was piling on and making late hits FROM THE START…again T.V. game so everyone got to see this happening…

Then as the reality settled in that you were going to lose your players REALLY started to get out of control. More late, cheap shots, several “D” players taking swings at GRAUSON players, then finally having a ref call it, then having to toss the player when he got in the REF’S face!!!

QUESTION…If this Lowndes team is supposed to represent the State of Georgia as the “Cream of our State’s Football” where were the Lowndes coach’s when this was going on and why didn’t (or can’t) they control their team????? Even after the Lowndes team CHARGED the field near the end the Coach was standing there with a SMIRK on his face…!

All we been hearing on this blog for weeks now is how South Georgia rules Georgia football, well this was the first time I saw Lowndes play and frankly from their actions last night…we don’t need them representing Georgia football to the rest of the country…

GREAT WIN GRAYSON…you deserved to win again and advance to play another week.

By Grayson Note

December 1, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

I just wanted to share that the Grayson High and Touchdown Club has received numerous apologies from the Lowndes community and parents over the actions of the players. I think that speaks well of the Lowndes community as a whole. Just thought it was worthy to note to share.

By grangerfan

December 1, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

To Drocko8, you dont get this far being lucky….Lagrange is in the best region in 3A. We still have two teams alive, that could meet in the finals. Newnan played us the first game of the year, it would be a better game now. I pick Lagrange and Newman to win it all. DEFENSE wins ball games asked Dunwoody, undefeated and at home. Flowery Branch, you next…..

By Todd Holcomb

December 1, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

In a Lincoln Co. - ECI final in Class A, assuming that both advance Friday, who would you like?

Like everybody, I’ve picked ECI all season, but for some reason, ECI has been vulnerable at times. I’m not going to pick against a Class A team w/ Ealey and two other D-1 prospects and a 29-game winning streak, but I think it will be a tight game.

Of course, Lincoln must beat Wesleyan first. When I did the preseason rankings, I talked w/ Coach Campbell and he must’ve mentioned Wesleyan eight times.

HOW DO YOU SEE LAGRANGE VS FLOWERY BRANCH?

LaGrange. But I’ve seen neither play this season, so others on this board might give a better breakdown of the matchups.

These are two teams that I ranked in preseason and felt had a chance to get this far, but then each lost favor through the regular season. That’s been a theme this season. I’d also put Tucker, Rome, Griffin and Fitzgerald in that category – teams that were supposed to have a lot of talent but that didn’t always show it until it really counted.

By JT

December 1, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

CJ come on do you know anything about Cairo. We have only lost 3 games the last 3 years, Carver has lost 2 this year alone. Cairo has always been about defense. Maybe you forgot how Carver struggled to score on us too. It will not be a blowout on either side.

By Homet

December 1, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

*Grayson Note8

That’s good to hear…a nice START…Now the Lowndes coach should come out and publicly apoligize for HIS players actions and HIS coaching staff’s INACTIONS!!!!…They stood by and let this happen and took NO action!!!

Additonally the Valdosta Times Sports reporter wrote an article, THAT IS STILL ONLINE, stating as follows:

*Lowndes got the ball back one last time trailing 17-7, but it was too late and the Vikings turned it over on downs.

After the fourth down play, frustration boiled over between the two teams, who had banged on each other hard all night, and a majority of both sidelines emptied on the field. Coaches, officials and law enforcement quickly broke up the melee before things got out of control.*

Again the Paper is The Valdosta Times and the reporter is Adam MacDonald…He, or his publisher should retract this and correct the article.

By Homet

December 1, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

JAYBO

Here is the link to a YOU TUBE VIDEO of several of the Lowndes players classless acts and their coach’s LACK OF response.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYN_qd5Mwo

By HSBallfan

December 1, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Fair Play Fan I think you’re referring to Tucker’s #5, Devon Scott. The other running backs besides Davis are 23,24 Calhoun and Wylder. Devon is a junior, was injured in Tucker’s second game and returned to the lineup for part of the SW Dekalb game. His speed is one of the key components in Tucker’s improvement (he missed the Marist game). You’ll see a lot of him next year, I’m sure. Deceptively strong for his size, too.

By CAMDEN FOOTBALL

December 1, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Senior You gave Camden credit for being very hospitable to your team and fans.It’s not just you or your team , we treat all teams and fans with respect.Our coach teaches sportmship to our playres daily. I am sorry but your statement about smiling when the little white boy running past the black players from Camden was a racist statement.Why not just say ,the running back from Woodstock made a great run aganist Camden defense. We worked hard to build the program we have here.We have a great group of hard working players and coaches.

By HoyaDawg

December 1, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

ZERO is the amount of respect I have for the Lowndes Vikings. ZERO, is the amount of control the Lowndes head coach has of his team. ZERO is the # of sec. region 1AAAAA teams in the semis.I have said it for weeks, and I will say it again. Region1 is overrated.No team in region 1 would have made it through the region 5AAAAA schedule with a better than 8-2 mark. Coffee nor Tift, would have even made the playoffs. Ther are 6 or 7 teams, in region 5 that could beat anybody in region 1, on the right night. My lack of respect of Lowndes, started on play one, and grew as the game went on. What happened to good hard hitting smash mouth football. At least at Lowndes, it has turned into running your mouth. Trash talk on every play, and late punk hits on most. The refs should have called personal fouls, and took control of the game early. Grayson, great team effort, and great show of class. Trust me, you will get hit harder next week, than you did friday night, but you will not have to put up with all the crap, and talk that you did friday night. PR is a great team, with great amounts of class. This is going to be a good game, let the best team win.

By High School Football Fan

December 1, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Will there be games televised this Friday and how and when will they decide what game will be televised? Is there a website where I can find this stuff out?

By Gwinnett Fan

December 1, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

GraysonFan2

Ah, but PTR did stop D.J. Adams, a D-1 commit from Norcross, and the touted Coffee running back who’s name I will not attempt to spell. Grayson has a small, quick running back. PTR has a small, quick defense.

By HoyaDawg

December 1, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Woodstock, great job, and thanks for representing well. I really do hate to see you lose another close one. Good season!

By HoyaDawg

December 1, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

I have said all year, that Lowndes was the best, until someone proved differently.Well, Lowndes,You are no longer the best. South GA. is no longer the best. The state has evened out with talent, coaching, and facilities. This has been a great year to prove that point. North GA. football plays with pride and heart. I will admit, we don’t have the history, because growth hinders that, but We do know how to play the game, and play it well.

By John

December 1, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Tucker and Rome both had blowout losses this year, Tucker to Marist and Rome in the late night game to Sprayberry. However, both turned it around and look to be teams of destiny. Griffin and Marist both are strong but I think Rome and Tucker are playing the best football in AAAA right now. It’s the only classification without an unbeaten team left. However, it also has the strongest overall field left of any classification and all four of the teams are traditionally strong.

By lee champion

December 1, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Carver v. Cairo-Jarvis Jones is definately out with a surgically repaired broken thumb. Carver defense still real good but Jones is huge loss. the 2 players who beat Cairo last year are gone-Furr/Fortson, however, the new QB has gotten better every week so Carver will be in the game. Now, Cairo has everybody (17/22) back so they are favored. Note that the final game for AAA may well be Carver v. Lagrange, again. Lagrange has overcome much to reach the semis and the program is fabulous from waterboys to the fan support. I have followed Carver and Lagrange all season and they are both deserving. Cairo is clearly the real deal and while i can’t wait to watch the Gators beat the Tide, Sat., the best games will be Friday night. Just wish i could be in Lagrange and Columbus at the same time! Good luck to all and lets play the games on the field.

By ladyluckjc

December 1, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

if the camera had not been on Lowndes head coach during all the personal fouls, you would have no idea that guy was anything more than a spectator.

By Wolverine Fan

December 1, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Valdosta’s coach should resign..or else be fired.

What a bunch of thugs…..coaches included.

By BRUIN FAN

December 1, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

GOOD LUCK ROME. HOPE U KICK THAT PRIVATE SCHOOLS REAR. GOOD LUCK CALHOUN YELLOW JACKETS ALSO.

By BrookFan

December 1, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

A timely Grayson beatdown on the Lowndes County Vikings and a low-class Viking response throughout the game. I’ve watched the LHS players on two occasions this season and sat amongst their fans at a playoff game. Usually, when they’re winning, they reflect the kind of sportsmanship that winners always do. But now when they lose, you see their true character, their true colors. Maybe LHS should change the school colors from maroon to green - with envy. The You Tube video is unsettling and GHSA should consider appropriate action if the LHS coaching staff does not permanently suspend the parties involved.

I wish these graduating LHS players well, including the volatile Greg Reid. However, I’m reminded of other physically talented players like Michael Vick and DeAngelo Hall. If only the Falcons could have avoided those two losers.

By Fair Play Fan

December 1, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

HSBalifan, Thank for the information on #5 for Tucker, Devon Scott. I am going to follow that guy’s career. Besides other things, he will be terrific kick off return man for a D1 school.

By WACO-FAN

December 1, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

WHAT I SAW IN THAT VIDEO WAS LHS KIDS THAT WASNT USED TOO LOSING SO THEY DIDNT KNOW HOW TO HANDEL SUMING THAT PAINFUL AND EVEN THOUGH IT WAS WRONG HOW THEY ACTED THEY ARE STILL JUST KIDS WHO GOT EMOTIONAL AND THATS WHERE THE COACHES SUPPOSE TO CALL A TIMEOUT GET THE PLAYERS TOGETHER AND SAY CALIM DOWN AND ACT LIKE VIKINGS MEN..THE COACHES ARE TO BLAME!!!!!!!

By John

December 1, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Valdosta didn’t even play Friday night. Why are you bringing them up?

By Gamer

December 1, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Now everyone knows how Lowndes has won closes to 18/19 play-off games at home BUT lost the 2 or 3 they played away. They have hand pick referees (doesn’t matter if they are from out of town) that let them punch you in a pile up, twist your legs after a tackle, stick their finger in the QB eye, etc. Just ask some of the teams that play there. It has gotten so bad that even Valdosta High School is afraid of them. LOL (but true).

By 19

December 1, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

All you North Ga/Metro-Atl/ Gwinnett people talking smack, please chill out. The brackets actually work in YOUR favor , one year, and you think you own the State. This states football power lies in SOUTH GA and will continue to stay there. North Ga hasn’t caught or evened the field. It boils down to 75% of the 5A schools are in Metro Atl, so of course YA’LL should look good from time to time.

Its the law of averages.

R15A is the BEST, so deal with it. SOUTH GA FOOTBALL is the BEST !!!

By One Lowndes Player

December 1, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

After Grayson soundly defeated Lowndes last Friday night I was wondering how a team that was to be that great got pushed all over the field by a supposely lesser team; maybe they were over-rated? But one thing I did notice as the camera scanned the players leaving the field. I saw ONE Lowndes player that somehow got near enough to the Grayson team to extend his hand in sportsmanship. Didn’t catch his number or even if his uniform was dirty. I’ve been on the wrong side of a crushing defeat before and it sticks with you your entire life. I have to admit the hardest thing to do is congratulate the victors after they have kicked your butt. Maybe the Lowndes program will take notice that one kid on their team had the guts, courage and maturity to do it. Only thing you can do after losing is turn in your uniform, study for mid-term exams, go hunting, enjoy the holidays and start fresh the following season. I fault the Lowndes football community for creating this monster. They have treated the coaches and players as if they are gods. Well, apparently Grayson didn’t get the message. If anything was learned it is playing the game determines the winner, not newspaper articles, polls or self-proclaimed greatness.

By GraysonFan2

December 1, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

Grayson has stopped every D-1 running back this year including Greg Reid. Lowndes also has a fast small defense and we scored 17 points on them. Coffee was very overrated as every team in that region. They all could be beat. Grayson stopped two D-1 WR last year for the win in the second round. Brookwood, Parkview, andeven Meadocreek all have D-1 RB and WR. Not to mention how many of your player are still there from last year, a Grayson also won that game. Stats say Grayson will win, I am not a huge believer in stats anymore.

By Question

December 1, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd,

Can we get kickoff times for Carver/Cairo and Newnan/Camden? I would like to decide which game to watch if I can’t see ‘em both.

By Dos Pingas

December 1, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

What I told you damn saouwfth jaowujuh hooligans ‘bout comin up here? Had to unsheath the purple-headed yogurt slinger! Speaking of which, how ‘bout them white boys at Marist start droppin trow and fillin some cups for further analysis… I know roid-heads when I see ‘em.

By WACO-FAN

December 1, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

grayson with all that defense talk do yall have any d-1 players on the team not d-1 type but real d-1 signee or being recruited

By GraysonFan2

December 1, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

GAmer, Brookfan, others,

The more I see those films the more I know something should be done about it ( GHSA) no matter if they apologized or not. What a terrible example they are to every other team, not only the ones they have played but to all teams that have taken the time to watch them. I have the game on tape at home, with 1.30 min. left in the first quarter, #84 slaps #16 across the right side of his helmet after the Lowndes fumbled play was over. If you look closely, you will see a ref standing right there. My guess is Lowndes would have lost this game way in the second Quarter had the refs been calling this crap. The refs. need to be looked at as well for allowing this behavior. I happen to know, If Greg Zellner were not actually holding his composure for his team, he would have put that boy on his back. It was abvious Greg Zellner took it out later on his hard hits! I would love to here from some of the other teams in Region1-AAAAA that has had closer scores, tell us if they experienced any of this. I am still in shock.

By GraysonFan2

December 1, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

19,

I wouldnt expect the south team, Lowndes to have to much respect next year. Im sure the polls will reflect that, along with the people. Im so sick of hearing its just the coaches fault, some of these boys are 18 year old men. Old enough to serve our country. Coaches are defiantly at fault too and very lethargic.

By Lissa

December 1, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Congratulations to all the teams left in the playoffs. It’s sad that 1-5A isn’t represented and Woodstock is out. I think I’ll pull for Camden to win it all.

By GraysonFan2

December 1, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

3 are being recruited #45#61#94,and #16 if he gets his credits straight.

By mikemike

December 1, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

CAIRO 28 CARVER 10 GO CAIRO!!!

By AndyCamden

December 1, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

First, can someone post intelligently when trying to “insult” another team. First, Camden looked very poor against Woodstock because they were cocky. Second a wins a win and we are in the Semi and every team to make the final four deserves much respect. Woodstock served as a wake up call to our boys so be ready for a good game Newnan.

Also, what is all this “weak-region” talk? Is highschool football going to a bowl system? Last time I checked playoffs eliminate the weak teams and the best teams in the state move on correct?

Third Alabama may be a weaker football state but, Hoover is in their state Championship game.

Oh and to Grayson fans. It takes two to tango right? Check your own kids because both sides were throwing punches, the youtube video showed that. Lowndes was definitely at fault and these are emotional students but, as long as your students are fighting as well doesn’t that put you in the same position as Lowndes.

Go Cats!

By Don

December 1, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd H. I believe you forgot one major name out of Griffin. I seem to remember this one fellow by the name of Willie Gault. Ring any bells?

By gameover7197

December 1, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Coin Toss.. Can someone please educate me that if the 4(PTR, Grayson, Camden and Newnan) Coaches in 5A met in a central location and flipped the coin or was it done by a neutral party?

On another note!! I will say this since, I have coached for many years as a High School Football coach that the referees we had at the Woodstock game looked extremely biased.. I have watched every game that Camden has played for last three years and last weeks game was the worst I have seen ever in a Georgia High School game, between the amount of penalties that were called to the ball spots.. I agree fully that Camden was flat and did not prepare for Woodstock but the referees were obviously biased! All football players work to hard all year long to have a game try to be decided by referees and alomost got their wish!.. If you were at the Woodstock game it was obvious. I know this much Camden gets up and plays better on the road, just ask Hoover( in the state finals in 6A this weekend and their only loss of the season was to Camden ( 10 hour bus ride one way) who are now coming to Camden next year to see what we are all about . I know everyone backs their team and I can’t wait to see Newnan play, I hope it is a classic and is decided on the field and not by the refs!

By HoyaDawg

December 1, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Andycamden, You are right, it takes two to tango, that is exactly why they did”n t tango. The Grayson team showed class, and respect for the game. There coaches took care of the situation. Grayson don’t get too cocky. The D you face friday will be better than the one you just played. One more thing, I ask the question earlier in the season, when our # one player went down, what would happen to Lowndes if there ace were to get hurt? Now I know. All of the Lowndes O dependeds on one man.

By WACO-FAN

December 1, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

yo grayson fans dang dont yall want 2 stop standing on yall high horse of our players did the right thing and lowndes didnt and move on to how yall will stack up against peachtree ridge and i hope the players have moved on..because its getting old and dont yall know if yall dont win fri yall win will just be another win while another team win the state title!!!!!

By gameover7197

December 1, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

On the game the Woodstock Wolverines came prepared and ready to play. Their players and coaches show class from beginning to end.. If Woodstock continues to play at that level they will be a force again next season..

By PRHA Goo Lions

December 1, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Grayson Fan: We all know that all grayson likes to do is run the ball and run out the clock.yall can stop bringing up the point that yall beat lowndes we dont care anymore its a new week. Peachtree ridge is the best at Stopping the run game and we will do it friday night. and for beating us last year big deal we are clearly a better team this year. we beat north gwinnett 20-7 their only points coming off a kick return. we stopped their star running back tyler jarry. we played collins hill and stopped their star running back charles perkins. we played norcross and stopped their star running back DJ adams. we played harrison and stopped their star running back Robby godhigh. if grayson played in region 7 yall would not be undefeated yall have it easy. P ridge is used to playing against hard teams. Lowndes was yalls only challenge this year and yall know it. We had 2 more first downs than coffe did but we managed to score 38 unanswered points. Our defense fast and alert. we have guys like #7(lsu Commit),# 6,( made 3 int last week)#4 dangerous on kick returns and on defense) #57, #29 vincent brown. The bott twins#45 and # 51( who are sophmores and one of them leads the team with about 89 tackles) #32, and #21 Mitchell who both play on both offense and defense.Mitchell is 6’4 and very hard to cover. he knows how to go up and catch the hard catches and he is also excellent on defense he at least intercepts a pass every game. On offense we have players like # 32 who is our running back and once he starts to run it is hard to tackle him cause he is big. we also have # 2 who is very fast. also and # 10 brad roby who can catch the deep passes and make the kick returns. as you can see we are more than a one man team. everyone works together. we know ean poemberton is small and fast but he is just like robby godigh from harrison who we managed to stop the whole game. We also have the game at our home field and our boys will be playing harder than ever and our student section is crazy loud. this should be a good one but i wanna see what grayson does when they cant run the ball on every play and run out th clock. oh yeah and our kicker made about every kickoff a touchback last week. and we know yours made a 37 yard field goal last week but ours made a 42 yard soo yeahh Sorry to burst your bubble but its not gonna end grayson 21 peachtree ridge 7

By mikemike

December 1, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

CAIRO WILL BRING THEY FANS TO HOST CARVER.

By doc

December 1, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan: Not impressed. If you were not impressed by the Camden defense shutting you guy’s out in the second half, after you came out and punched us in the mouth the first half. Come on now only a true football fan woud appreciate a defense doing what it did. A game is 4 quarter’s, no matter how strong you start you have to finish what you started. If you pick a fight with someone in their backyard, you need to be able to finish. Case in point when Dacula came down here and picked a fight and left with the spoils of war, the Wolverines ran a similar style offense. They just could not finish the deal. Good teams win how they can, great teams find a way to win when they are down,but not out. Great season for the Wolverines though.

By GraysonFan2

December 1, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

If Lowndes was our only challenge, then why are you mentioning Collins Hill, that was very contradicting. Thats ok, you guys are starting to sound like those Viking people, just keep underestimating Grayson, keep throwing those number out there, you will get it Friday.

By whatanidiot

December 1, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

We played Marist and I can tell you there were no recial talk and none of those white boys aer big enough to be doing no roids. They were good spoetsmen and they did not play dirty. You are sick wiht that trash to cone on here and talk about those boys. You probable are from some school that did not make it past te 1st round and want ot come on here and talk trash caus you dont have nothing else to do but cover basketvall at your school.

By TitletownBaby

December 1, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Congrats Grayson…yall won friday night…good luck at state…yall better hope yall have them same refs to spot yall 3 or 4 yards every offensive play…Lowndes would win any other day on a neutral site with different refs…maybe I should be a referee…and take a couple bribes…wouldn’t have to worry about money!!

By PRHS Goo lionss

December 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Grayson Fan2: if your not stupid than you can see that evryone is underestimating P Ridge. we are the only team in the final four that is not undefeated. but its okay cuz we always get voted against but we always end up winning. im not trying to come off as one of those viking people im not even trying to talk trash. i guess you have your own opinion and i have mine. we will just have to wait and see what goes down at the Ridge friday night

By politics-of-football

December 1, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

TOOL- TOWN- CRYBABY’s::: YOU LOST, GRAYSON SMASHED YOUR POOR LITTLE WANNA-B’s, THE LOWNDES COUNTY WEAKLINGs ARE DONE. LOL

By HistoryMan

December 1, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Todd:

The best in the highest classification for a state championship team was 2003 Camden County, which allowed 47.

I think Valdosta was in the highest class (AAA at the time) in these state championship seasons when it allowed only:

31 points (12 in reg. season) in 1968. 33 points (27 in reg. season) in 1969. 33 points (all in reg. season) in 1962.

If I am wrong, I apologize and please correct me.

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Glad to see my brothers YO and REEZE still on the blog after their teams have been eliminatied. I know how that feels. (i.e. 2006 and 2007). But what that shows is their genuine passion for GHS football. Like many of the posters here, once their team has been beaten, you NEVER hear from them again. Not YO and REEZE. They will be here to the finish. Like them or not, both represent true GHS football fans. I appreciate that.

By SE GA Fan

December 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

To Woodtock…..congratulations on a great season and a great game on Friday….you came to Camden and took it to us in the first half. To the writer still unimpressed with the Camden D, I don’t know what game you were watching or you must have left at half time. 2nd half was all Camden….O points on D, 16 TOTAL yards, and a pick 6. Offense stepped up and moved the ball on the ground again in the 4th quarter.

To the morons who continue to want to put Camden down based on the schedule and/or region……What type of cheese would you like with that WHINE? Get over it….5 trips to the semis (the round formerly known as The Dome) in the last 7 years and a State Title….not bad for a weak team from a weak region…..for good measure they are also 6 and 0 at the Kell Classic….we have nothing to prove to any of you boneheads.

To those going to Newnan on Friday….do yourselves a favor and leave a little early and stop in at Sprayberry’s for some of the best BBQ in the South. Then look forward to another instant classic of a football game.

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

BODOG, DROCK08 is NOT slamming LG nor building up Camden, Co. He is simply into this reverse psycology thing which he has been using now for quite some time. His form of voodoo has apparently not hurt the Cougars nor the Grangers. Why don’t we cut him some slack as long as we are both winning? LOL!

By T.J.

December 1, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

Just info on Grayson recruit prospects….barely any D-1 seniors. I count maybe 3. Look at roster, mostly underclassmen start. They play team ball, that is why they are good. Coaching won that game with the team. Notice Grayson never kicked to a threat or they ran clock to perfection. Grayson coaches learned a lot since their loss to Camden last year. Team ball will beat star power any day, thats good coaching.

By TitletownBaby

December 1, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

Tool-Town-Crybaby’s?

By region 1 fan

December 1, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Wolverine fan.. Region 1 Cairo is still in. Good luck to your team. Our team wil have thousands of fans friday night at carver. I heard they have a really nice stadium.pediction Cairo 26 Carver 17

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

TODD, Always appreciate the respect you have given the Grangers. As for 2008 the “lows” as well as the “highs” are not difficult to understand for one who has followed the team from pre-season to the present. If my numbers are right, going back to pre-season, the Grangers have lost no less than 11 key players due to injuries, suspensions, and position changes.) Some permanent. Some not. The latest victim is RB Ocie Salter who was injured against Dunwoody. Still do not know the extent of his injury. But, what a story. Even with all the adversity, they played their best game of the year against Dunwoody Friday night. The defense is FINALLY 100%. The OL, while not very big, is playing well together as a unit. Tolbert has been fabulous under center for the past 3 games, and Darrin Hairston who is LG’s version of Greg Reid has been simply unbelievable. The Granger special teams look good as well. This may NOT be THE most talented Granger team I have ever seen, but what they lack in talent they make up for in true grit. The coaching staff has been remarkable. I like their chances.

By Todd Holcomb

December 1, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

**I think Valdosta was in the highest class (AAA at the time) in these state championship seasons when it allowed only:

31 points (12 in reg. season) in 1968. 33 points (27 in reg. season) in 1969. 33 points (all in reg. season) in 1962.

If I am wrong, I apologize and please correct me.**

Very good, History Man. You are correct. Perhaps the Camden record was for a 15-game season.

If we go outside the GHSA, Boys’ High of Atlanta allowed just two points in 1940. The team went 10-0, including a victory over Miami High in the Orange Bowl.

Hey Todd H. I believe you forgot one major name out of Griffin. I seem to remember this one fellow by the name of Willie Gault. Ring any bells?

Well, I couldn’t list them all! … Plus, as we all know, Freddie Gilbert was the man on those late ’70s teams.

**Coin Toss.. Can someone please educate me that if the 4(PTR, Grayson, Camden and Newnan) Coaches in 5A met in a central location and flipped the coin or was it done by a neutral party?

On another note!! I will say this since, I have coached for many years as a High School Football coach that the referees we had at the Woodstock game looked extremely biased.**

The refs from Friday’s game did the coin toss that sent Camden on the road to Newnan. … Jest kiddin’.

I believe the coin toss is done by the coaches or two representatives from each school, who meet somewhere in between.

Can we get kickoff times for Carver/Cairo and Newnan/Camden? I would like to decide which game to watch if I can’t see ‘em both.

I hear that all games are Friday, 7:30, except Carver-Cairo, which is 8.

By Gamer

December 1, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1, You are scoring big right now with your alligence to LG and Newnan. Your buddy Yo is okay. BUT those many diehard Lowndes bloggers are gone. You know Viking Fan 1, Viking Dad, Plow Boy, Viking Mom, and some Viking supporters from other south Ga teams that had lost. I agree, It would be nice for the dialogue to continue even if your team lost.

By Drock08

December 1, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

To Slalom01 Thanks for clearing the Lagrange fans concern about me talking bad about the Grangers. As you know as a full timer on here I said from the beginning that Lagrange would be in the Ga Dome this year back in August. I also said a couple of weeks ago that Lagrange could make a run at it eventhough they have so many injuries. Also congrats on the season and I hope former region foes Lagrange Newnan Griffin and Carver wins this friday.

By SE GA Fan

December 1, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Todd

If we go outside the GHSA, Boys’ High of Atlanta allowed just two points in 1940. The team went 10-0, including a victory over Miami High in the Orange Bowl.

For those interested, the 2 points allowed were the result of a bad snap on a punt going through the end zone.

By Wolverine Fan

December 1, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Todd…….I was at the Camden game. How do you think the refs. were biased?

By T.J.

December 1, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Grayson vs. Peachtree Ridge

More facts for consideration: Points for and against:

Grayson: For 392 - Against 106

Peachtree Ridge: For 277 - Against 118

Average score for and against:

Grayson 30 Opponent 8

Peachtree Ridge 21 Opponent 9

Close on Defense but Grayson scores more. My prediction is another game with a score of 17 to 7 in Grayson’s favor.

By Ram Fan 21

December 1, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

To: TitletownBaby Your comments are the comments of a poor loser!! There have been a few Lowndes fans to come on this blog and congratulate us on our win friday night but then there are the few that just want to blame something or someone else for the loss… Get over it people YOU GOY OUTPLAYED, OUT COACHED and OUT CLASSED!!

I will say it again to all of the Ram fans and P. Ridge fans… Lets let these two great football teams play the game before you crown a winner!!

GO RAMS!

By 89viking

December 1, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

ok grayson fans,, you beat us,,,that was last week,,,forget about last week and worry about this week, you do have another game. you wanna know why we got beat? bc of what grayson is doing right now,,,talking about a past game and not respecting your current opponent this coming week.

By Band Mom Gone Wild

December 1, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

What an awesome game on Friday night! I commend Coffee for getting as far as they did, however I must admit I’m a bit puzzled as to “how” they got that far. Either I didn’t see the “true” Coffee team on Fri night, or they played really bad teams to obtain a record that would afford them the opportunity to make the quarterfinals. On a positive note, the Coffee fans practically filled the visitor’s stands and that says something about the support they get from community. (And we, the Band Boosters Association, appreciate their patronage of our visitor’s concession stand!)

I want to take this opportunity to say “Thank you” to Coach Ballard, his staff, the Lions team and the Lions fans for making the night special for an equally special young man! One of our DEs, Brandon Crookston, #99, has been an important part of the Lion’s sports community. Two years ago he was in the band supporting the football team every Friday night. Last year he was the team manager for the Lions and probably their most vocal supporter from the sidelines. This year, his senior year, he made the varsity team; he’s not Div I material talent-wise, but he’s pro material heart-wise! Due to some special circumstances, Brandon was not likely to be put into a varsity game, but that NEVER deterred him. He was at every practice and at every game. This Friday night when the crowd started chanting his nickname “X Factor” the coaches put him in for three plays in the fourth quarter. The team and the crowd went wild, cheering him just as loudly and heartily as he has cheered his Lions all these years! I saw him after the game outside the Lion’s Den on his cell phone telling the person on the other end about his night. I heard him say “Yes!! They put me in!! In the fourth quarter! I got to play!” My heart, which had swelled with pride earlier watching him as he left the huddle three times eager to make a big play, was now at it’s bursting point standing outside the Lion’s Den! I had to turn away so I wouldn’t turn into a blubbering idiot! Those three plays will probably be etched in his mind and his heart forever; I know they will be in mine!

Ok Ridge, so far I’ve seen about a 50/50 split about whether or not you can make some Ram Sandwiches this Friday. I know you can… you know you can… and all of your fans know you can! You’ve got the talent… now just make sure you’ve got the calm and the purposefulness to win this game!! Don’t look toward the Dome. Look at your opponent; take each play and deal with it individually. Slow and steady guys, slow and steady. See you Friday night! Goooooo Lions!!!!!

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

leechampion, I feel much the same way that you do. This Friday night is huge. During pre-season I said, “No way Carver wins AAA in 2008”. Maybe that was right. Maybe not. Regardless, Carver has exceeded my expectations for 2008. Granted, they got a gift in Texas transfer Devin Burns at QB. Did not see that coming. But it has been the Carver defense that has carried the torch. They are mighty good. Maybe THE best in any classification even without Jarvis Jones. Here is the deal: NOBODY has been able to run the ball right up the gut against the Carver defense. THAT is what Cairo does best. No way does the Cairo OL stack up against the talent on the Carver defense. Carver wins the “battle in the trenches”. As for Carver, their offense is built very similar. A run oriented offense, but with a MUCH bigger OL. RB’s for both teams are about equal. Very Good. The passing threat also looks about equal to me, but if either team has an edge it may be Carver. Not because they have put up big numbers, but exactly the opposite. I have seen what they can do with the passing game when they need it. Hard to scout. Special teams could very well decide this game. Cairo appears to be fairly strong.(Not great). But Carver’s special teams are simply horrible. Especially their kicking game. Along with penalties and turnovers, special teams will determine the outcome of this game. For Cairo to win, they must shorten the playing field with their kicking game. Pin Carver deep on each possesion. Force the Carver offense to drive the ball 80 yds on each possesion without a mistake. Then take advantage of the “short field” for their offense and kicking game to capitalize upon. On a neutral field, I would give Cairo about a 6 point advantage. But with the game being played at Memorial Stadium in Columbus, look for Carver’s offensive line to get away with lots of “holding” and win the game by 6. (Just ask the NSWR fans about the officiating in Columbus, Ga.). Hope I do not sound like I am slamming Carver. Just saying that the home field advantage in Columbus is HUGE.

By Reeze

December 1, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1……..Thanks,you’re correct I love the game, from Rec ,Middle School,High school,College ,Pro and my forte Fantasy Im with it no matter what….What’s up with the Grangers ,they’re looking good .Most of us had wriiten them off

By MIKEMIKE

December 1, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

CAIRO AND CARVER GAME AT 8 CAIRO TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO DOME.GO SYRUPMAKERS!!!

By Reeze

December 1, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

Fair Play Fan……I agree with you on the Tucker kid #5 he looks good….How Tucker lost 38-0 this season is unreal.I think the AAAA championship was played last friday……Tucker and Camden must use the same play book ,because the same play Camden used to kill us ,Tucker used the same play and killed Westside… did you notice?

By SGT CHRIS

December 1, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

By the way, what was number 23’s problem? did he get ejected? because he didnt seem hurt, but he was throwing a bit of a tantrum on the dunwoody bench.

Can anyone with some insight on that fill me in??

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Gamer, That is exactly the way I see it. I have watched the Grangers go out in Game 2 in 2006 and Game 1 in 2007. It IS a bummer to be out of the picture so early, but I have ALWAYS remained interested in those teams left standing even when my team was not one of them. That is the difference between a fair weather fan and a genuine GHS football fan. I love the game. It is always better when my team is still alive, but if not I can still find something to get excited about. During 2007 I travelled more and learned more about the traditions of other GHS football programs than any year in my life. It has given me a deeper appreciation for what GHS football is all about

By SGT CHRIS

December 1, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

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bookmark this site..and support the newnan football team at the same time lol..im sure they will have the camden/newnan game for sale on there this time next week

By The Ridge

December 1, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

TJ: about your prediction we all know that the stats really dont matter anymore after what happened on friday… everyone said coffee would beat us 24 to 10 and look what happened…

By BODOG

December 1, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this

TO SLALOM1…….DID NOT MEAN TO SOUND SO HOSTILE TOWARD DROCK8. NOT AWARE IT WAS REVERSE PSYCOLOGY……..all is well…..let not Your heart be troubled…………

AS FAR AS CARVER AND COLUMBUS OFFICIALS……I THOUGHT THAT GHSA CHOOSE OFFICIALS, AND NOT NECESSARILY LOCAL,, DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS? I HOPE CAIRO BEATS CARVER IF IS IS BY JUST 1 POINT IN TRIPLE OVERTIME…………

By SGT CHRIS

December 1, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

How did Carver end up with home field? Cairo is undefeated right?

By Yo

December 1, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Gamer I personally don’t see any difference in a liar and a thug. Lowndes may have qualified as thugs bUt you qualify as the other. Just calling it like it is.

By MIKEMIKE

December 1, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

THEY UNDERFEATED IN THEY REGAIN JUST LIKE CAIRO

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

SGT CHRIS, “Toss of the coin”. Carver won.

By HSBallfan

December 1, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this

By Reeze: I agree with you on the Tucker kid #5 he looks good….How Tucker lost 38-0 this season is unreal. Tucker entered the game having suffered three major injuries including Scott. Marist had a very good first half but the game was still in play at 17-0 until QB Chris Beck had to leave the game just as the team was starting to move the ball third quarter. The backup was not prepared and turned the ball over into two more quick Marist scores. Tucker and Camden must use the same play book, because the same play Camden used to kill us, Tucker used the same play and killed Westside… did you notice? Considering that Franklin Stephens came to Tucker from Camden County that would not be a huge surprise… except maybe to Westside :) I read Robert Davis’ quote in the Macon paper where he admitted that not having a tough regular season game probably cost his team dearly against Tucker… all the fight went out of them when Tucker intercepted McFadden for a TD.

Looking forward to a tough encounter Friday night against Griffin, another talented team that got off to a slow start but has apparently put it together in the playoffs.

By HSBallfan

December 1, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

By SGT CHRIS: How did Carver end up with home field? Cairo is undefeated right? They’re both #1 seeds from their region so it’s decided by a coin toss. I know, that sucks. I agree. How hard would it be to put the semi finals at neutral sites? And I’m not talking about metro Atlanta… aren’t there five stadiums out there in the state that could host doubleheaders? or ten that could have the games individually?

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

YO, LOL!!! Great to see you back ruffling feathers. I knew you would hang around. YO, no one was more shocked by the Lowndes loss than me. I was looking for a Newnan vs. Lowndes final. Was planning on going to the game. Thought it was a done deal. Having said all that, several times this season I have made references to “chinks in the armor” regarding Lowndes. I was looking for more blow-outs. Not a 14-7 win over Valdosta. Nor a 28-14 win over Tift. No disrespect. Everyone on this blog understands that LOWNDES is the premier program in the great state of Georgia. But, something went wrong this year.What happened?

By Garry

December 1, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

sgt Chris, to sum it p a little, There are 4 brackets [4] teams in each bracket. each bracket seeds 1- through 4. #1 seed team in each bracket has home field unless both teams are seeded # 1 or [seeeded equally]So even if a team has a better record a coin toss exists. Go MAKERS.

By football fan

December 1, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

I THINK THE WAY THE TEAM AND THE COACHES ACTED IN THE LOWNDES, GRAYSON GAME SHOULD BE LOOKED AT BY GHSA AND THE TEAM BE PUNISHED AND THE COACHES PUNISHED OR FIRED. THEY ACTED LIKE A BUNCH OF THUGS AND CRIMINALS AND SHOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO PLAY FOR THE STATE TITLE NEXT YEAR FOR A PENALTY. AS A COACH YOU TEACH SPORTSMENSHIP AS WELL AS FOOTBALL. LOWNDES I HOPE YOUR SCHOOL BOARD ENJOYS BEING ON U-TUBE AND I HOPE YOUR VOTERS DONT COMPARE YOU TO YOUR FOOTBALL TEAMS CONDUCT. DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

REEZE, Once again, I appreciate your interest in the Grangers. After having witnessed the debacle in Perry last season I can understand why in pre-season you said, “If this is the same group of 30 seniors that showed up in Perry, it is gonna be a long year for the Grangers”. This Granger team is by no means the most talented I have ever seen. In fact, as you said, most everyone had written them off, including myself. But as we lost one player after the next,(pretty much double digits), as one would go down, someone else would rise up and the rest of the team would rise up as well. They are a gritty bunch. They remind me a lot of some of the Region 1AAAAA teams that we played back in the day who were undersized, but well coached, and could take a smack in the mouth. I have no idea what happens next. We have so many injuries, I don’t even know who we will have in the backfield. But one thing I am certain of is that this Granger team will go down swinging.

By WACO-FAN

December 1, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

wow we a team that won many playoff games on the road and three state titles on the road i say if u cant win on the road your team wasnt as strong as thought….great teams win anywhere anytime!!!!and i saw the dunnwoody stadium and they shouldnt be allowed to host a game where the visitor side lol

By tired

December 1, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Why does everybody feel the need to put Marist down? The refs most definitely don’t give us any calls and there is no way we recruit. Have you seen our players? two 5’6” runningbacks and a slew of other undersized, unatheletic kids. And as for cut-blocking, we don’t do it. You’re getting cut blocking mixed up with playing low.

By BODOG

December 1, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

TO SLALOM1…..CAN YOU TELL ME HOW ONE SCHOOL LIKE CARVER CAN HAVE SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS IN FOOTBALL, AND NONE OF THE 7 OR 8 REMAINING SCHOOLS IN COLUMBUS EVEN HAVE A WINNING RECORD, AND YEAR AFTER YEAR THEY GO 0-20, AND CARVER HAS A SEC CALIBER TEAM EACH YEAR SOMETHING JUST DOES NOT ADD UP? WHAT DO YOU THINK!!!!

By leechampion

December 1, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

slalom1,alright, attention, Carver has found an extra point kicker, i repeat, an Extra Point Kicker! Think he is No. 8 and has made his last 7 or 8 extra points (GASP in disbelief her please) So whereas i agree w everything my friend slalom1 says about the game i am telling u c above! Now, bout the “officials” ya’ll know well we don’t pick the refs so quit trying to lay that down on Columbus. Carver is HUGE on the line and Leron Furr ruled next years AAA champs Gainesville(all playas back), along w fast secondary.Carver backs are fast and strong. Cairo for sure for real just like last year. Arn’t ya’ll glad we get to go to watch? Sgt. Chris, spect u will be in Lagrange? Can’t wait. Oh yeah, any doubters bout Carver, call dem bad azzs from NorthsideWR who got kicked all over MoMo stadium earlier this year bout Carver’s defense. the new kicker would have won that game with an extra point and a 12 yard field goal!

By cheer girl

December 1, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

i say congrats to the grayson team yall did very well……………but i must also congratulate you guys on showing class. lowndes has the same attitude toward the team they are playing whether they are winning or losing.TRUST ME I’VE SEEN IT!!!! and it would be a real shame if the coach didnt apologize because i know 2 year olds who take more control over people. good luck to both the ridge and grayson im sure both of you will play well and the better team will win.

By Garry S

December 1, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Here is a Cairo at Carver match up figure.Points scored Cairo 381 Carver 359 points allowed, Cairo 90 Carver 84. sounds like it will be a great matchup again. note Due to the floods from hurricane Faye, Cairo’s schedule was shotened one game. 1st game of year w/ bainbridge was cancelled.

By leechampion

December 1, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Bodog, I live in Columbus and heres the deal, for say 8 years Shaw had all the playas,and i mean ALL.Charles Flowers and his moving van and recruitin agency left town and the kids that used to go to Shaw are now staying at Carver and Dell McGee has done a hell of a job and he is getting the kids. ColsHighSchool, my alma mater has the best baseball program in the city and most years the state due to being a magnet and having a fabulous coach that the kids REALLY want to play for. Jordan,is small. Kendrick and Spencer can;t keep their kids cause the army transfers their parents. Hardaway is an enigma and Northside is pushing baseball but a real good football coach might change that some.Oh and Shaw was real good this year, just lost a lot of close games to a brutal schedule. They will be good every year and real good others. Carver is loosing a LOT of players this year so next year will be different.

By leechampion

December 1, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

for what little its worth. Have seen newnan, lagrange, nswr, carver, troup, shaw,yada yada. Best is newnan, then carver, nswr, lagrange. now thats carver w jones. as more adroitly set forth above by others, newnan is FOR REAL and look like they could beat half the SEC, ok maybe a third, ok just auburn. but they may win AAAAA and i hope they do!

By JAYBO

December 1, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Ok, its time for ole JAYBO to chime in on the Lowndes/Grayson issue. Well I saw the youtube video and I don’t see what all the fuss is about! Unless there is more to see, this thing has really been blown out of porportion!!! Let me comment on the scenes from youtube: 1)The lowndes player taunted grayson’s bench….jawjacking occurs in football games all of the time….no big deal with that scene! 2)A Lowndes player was ejected for throwing punches….I have no problem with the ejection. My issue is the video dosen’t show the whole incident. We know in football, its the person who retaliates who gets the punishment. Granted however, punches should not have been thrown.3)The players should have never left the bench area and that was wrong!

I must say that after reading all of the comments about the “thugs” from Lowndes, I was really looking for some really violent actions from the Lowndes players….I gotta say, I just didn’t see that on the video!!!! I think the labels that have been put on these 15-18 year old kids from Lowndes is just flat out wrong!!!! WOW, this thing has been blown waaay up….there are many on here acting like the Lowndes players released a bomb on the field!!! Should they control themselves better? Certainly!!! But please keep in mind that these are teenagers, not grown men!!! No need for an apology from the Lowndes coach…it wasn’t as bad as you guys are making it seem….unless there is more than what the youtube clip shows!!!

By WACO-FAN

December 1, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

i wounder who was the last AAA up north team to win the state title cuz i did see someone say gainesville will win next year……

By politics-of-football

December 1, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

JAYBO : you just have to see the whole game or better yet seen it in person… (IT WAS BAD) shove in the back after the play (alot) #86 was punching people (he better stay hidden for awhile) and the gang tacklers were trying to gauge eye’s (came straight from the players on the field) the refs were told but done nothing ??? get the whole game and watch close (IT WAS BAD)

By WACO-FAN

December 1, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

plz and u want me 2 believe that with all the hype bout the game that they wasnt doing any trash talkin when they knew they was winning plz…no matter how much class u think your grayson player got trash talk go on and mix that with emotion in a teen bad things happen…

By politics-of-football

December 1, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

im sure grayson was TRASH talk’n, TALK being the key word here

By slalom1

December 1, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

BODOG, I think that leechampion pretty much hit the nail on the head. In Muscogee Co, any kid can go to ANY school he/she chooses. During the era of Charles Flowers at Shaw, 90% of the best football prospects attended Shaw. (That is from a recruiting base of about 12,000 kids.) In proper perspective, Shaw enjoyed a potential “roster” advantage over almost anyone in the state. When Flowers left Shaw, Dell McGee took over at Carver. The momentum shifted from Shaw to Carver. Now Carver is building teams from a recruiting base of about 12,000 kids. Nothing illegal about it. Just unfair. This trend will continue in Muscogee Co unless the board of education or the GHSA does something to address athletic transfers not only in Muscogee Co, but Gwinnett as well as others. This is the reason for the “haves” and the “have nots” both in Muscogee Co as well as in Gwinnett Co. Do you realize that in 2007 Carver had 15 players to sign “letters of intent” and still returned 17 starters in 2008? Somebody needs to do something. Wish that the GHSA would address the issue.

By Reeze

December 1, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

Jaybo…..I’m with you ,I wasn”t at the game , but I didn’t see anything in the video either …I have watched Lowndes for years and I have never seen any type of misconduct ever….It’s BS man…the minute something out of the ordinary happens involving programs with a high number of African American kids here comes the “Thug” label….If it were Marist or Buford “highspirited” ….And these two clowns running this blog sit back and do nothing……My In laws are from Valdosta, and my wife has two relatives playing for the Vikes… .I have been around Demps and a number of the players at cookouts and other events and I haven’t seen any thugs….I think some of the kids who aren’t thugs and their families might get a little offended TODD and SWEET PEA

By Gamer

December 1, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Yo, Don’t let anyone get under your skin. Don’t lose it! What is happening is that for the last two years you have been on the winning side giving as you like with no come back. It is just your time! It has happened to all of us. How do you think I feel to see Baldwin lose. It was fun while it lasted. We all know only one team will hold their finger up in the end as numero uno. Parkview, NSWR, Peach County and now Lowndes have had their run. Next year 1AAAAA is wide open. NSWR and Lowndes will have to re-build. Look out for Colquitt County.

By HATORADER

December 1, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

SLALOM HE HAS HIT TWELVE IN A ROW, I’M GLAD WE’RE THE UNDERDOGS THIS YEAR. I’M JUST DYING TO HEAR WHAT WENT WRONG MONDAY LOL.

  GO

G.W. CARVER

MIGHTY TIGERS

By lowndesgrad99

December 1, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

hey all you gwinett county fans if i remember correctly beating you guys at the orange jungle in 2004 i think i saw some of ur so called rich boys try to fight us rednecks. i believe the following year was same for brookwood at martin stadium same goes for ur fans trying to fight. and what about last year when north gwinett did the same thing. oh thats right those rich boys dont fight only dumb rednecks. but hey guess what we are all from or reside here in georgia. why dont u go get a copy of the usa today dated nov6, 2008 i think it will put u in ur place it ranks 1-5AAAAA as the best region in the US not texas florida or even METRO ATLANTA AREAS. do the math a couple of million people of course u have more schools than the south georgia teams. guess that woudnt make since to a prepy boy. so ur odds are better to have a school in the final. i hope the best for grayson and maybe this could be a great rivalry beginning.

By inthatrenches

December 1, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

Does Camden throw the ball any? Everything I have seen says they are very good at what they do!! but if they are basically one dimensional they will find Newnan aggressive and hardhitting the way teams have moved the ball on Newnan was being able to mix it up that’s why the blogs and the talking heads thought NG would give Newnan a game.. They did but the weather and the Def had Tamburo on the slide all night the reason the game was close was the wet field conditions Newnan had 4 fumbles 3 lost.. Newnan’s offense hasbeen sluggish inthe first half ofthe last two games but once Powell gets in a rythym he operates this offense with precision that where the difference in this game is if the Cougars start slow tight game if they start fast watch out… also the Special teams may be the best in the state.. Someone may argue this but the 3rd part of the Game may be huge in this Newnan/Camden Game of the year.. Your thoughts??

By TrojanSportsFan

December 1, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

i haven’t been able to get on here the last few days but can i state where were lowndes officials from well like all season Coffee had Atlanta officials this time in METRO ATLANTA suprising no..i reckon u can buy anything now..LOWNDES YALL ARE WAY BETTER THAN GRAYSON..As for Peachtree Ridge our unsportsmanship please everytime we had a player hurt yall had cheerleaders cheering players not kneeling very much a lack of respect thanks NORTH GA..Man I THINK WE NEED 2 Start Recruiting lol messed up

By robert

December 1, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

Tood, Do you know who the ga public brodcasting station is showing Friday in the semi-finals. thanks

By inthatrenches

December 1, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget Republicans vote Tommorrow December 2nd—— Democrats vote Wednesday December 3rd ——- I vote Newnan December 5th

By camden

December 1, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this

Camden does throw occasionally. Ask NSWR about the 80 yard TD pass we threw against them. Last week we could not protect the QB. He had absolutely no time to throw. This should be a great game!! GO CATS

By WACO-FAN

December 2, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

gpb been shown web games of high school teams all year go 2 da site gpb.org

By GraysonFan2

December 2, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this

Jaybo,

We are just not use to seeing this kind of thing here in Grayson. It was big to us. Also wanted to say a few people here say Lowndes have been acting like this for years and getting away with it. I think we all just want to see something done.

By cj

December 2, 2008 12:42 AM | Link to this

to slalom1

What was the deal when carver spanked lagrange. I was at that game. Every year we hear this recruiting thing from you. Does Lagrange have kids on their roster who should be playing for Troup, or Callaway. Its the same thing in Valdosta, Newnan, Atlanta, and Macon. The game will come down to cairo running game and we know they can’t run on Carver. I hope Cairo realizes they are playing Carver-Columbus and not Carver Atlanta. I still see the finals being all region 2aaa.

By Hey Yo

December 2, 2008 12:46 AM | Link to this

Yo-Yo, I sent the Grayson-Lowndes game film to a few of the schools out in Texas that play 6-man football. They want to schedule Lowndes next year.

By Joseph

December 2, 2008 3:56 AM | Link to this

OK I have tried to stay out of this crazy back and forth about the Lowndes/Grayson game but some of the post about both teams is ticking me off. FIRST: I find it astounding that anyone throwing the negative bile about any player on that field can hold themselves up as supporting a “classy” team. Do you know these players or were on the field with them during this game? Unless you witnessed EVERY SINGLE ACTION BY EVERY SINGLE PLAYER ON THE FILED DO NOT QUESTION THE MOTIVES OF WHAT HAPPENED. Am I saying that the rowdiness of the Lowndes and Grayson teams are acceptible, NO, but has everyone in this world lost their temper at one time or another, YES. SECOND:Grayson played AMAZING football, Lowndes did not. That is why Grayson won and Lowndes did not, end of discussion. THIRD: Whomever made the youtube video, congrats on your editing skills. You did make a compelling video for the Lowndes coach being appathetic to his players rowdiness and making the Lowndes team look less than they are. I should get my video maker out and take clips to put together Grayson players throwing punches and Grayson coaches standing on the sidelines looking appathetic. Unless you were on the actual sidelines and locker rooms of BOTH teams you have no clue how the coaches delt with the issues. FOURTH AND FINALLY: Having said all that is this really worth soooo many folks getting on here and acting sooooo negative? I am a Lowndes fan and I was truelly impressed with the Grayson work force that hosted this game. A real class act. I wish Grayson the best. How about everyone just take a step back and realize in the end it is JUST a game and passion is nice, winning is grand and losing sucks. But how you win, how you loose and what you learn from how you do both is the true meaning of what these kids do.

By SGT CHRIS

December 2, 2008 5:45 AM | Link to this

OK PEOPLE ENOUGH WITH THE GRAYSON/LOWNDES GAME!!! ITS HISTORY!! TIME TO FOCUS ON THE SEMIS!!!

By GraysonFan2

December 2, 2008 6:44 AM | Link to this

Im sure all will learn from it, and it will come to pass. Give it few more days, lol. Come here in a week and you want see anything about it.

By NTH Trojans

December 2, 2008 7:07 AM | Link to this

Slalom,

Just a little heads up on Flowery Branch. They came into the playoffs as the #3 seed because of the sub-region format. They actually beat the #2 seed (North Hall) out of that region (7AAA) in the regular season 35-7. They run the Spread Offense quite effectively, with QB Connor Shaw at the helm. There was a comment in an earlier post about who would have thought that FB would beat Baldwin. I laughed, because that’s exactly what I said that FB would do. FB is a well coached, disciplined team that I believe will win a close one against LG this weekend. I can’t say for sure, because I haven’t seen LG play, but I have seen this FB team play 4 or 5 times this year. By the way, I do agree that Region 2 is still the strongest region in AAA, followed by Region 7. If you don’t believe it, just look at the numbers. Both regions had 3 teams advance to the 2nd rd, 2 teams advance to the quarters, while region 2 had 2 advance to the semis, region 7 had 1. I do, however, agree with your prediction on the Carver - Cairo matchup. We have talked too many times about the distinct homefield advantage there.

Todd,

How many teams have won aa State Championship while playing EVERY game on the road? Because that is what Flowery Branch will have to do to win it all. Just curious.

By Fair Play Fan

December 2, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this

Todd Holcomb, In your column entitled, ” North Stands Out in Play-Offs”, You write, “Of the 20 teams remaining in all classifications, 12 are from north Ga”. Then you identfied north georgia as a line running north of La Grange across to north of Augusta. Yet, you count in Griffin which is below that line and never is identified as North ga. Therefore, it should be 11 for the north—9 south of your line. You also say, except for Grayson, every metro team will have home field advantage. What? That’s a double edge sword because Grayson plays Peachtree Ridge—both in metro Atlanta. No real compaint—just want to get clarity.

By Wolverine Fan

December 2, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this

Anyone know when the schedules for next season will be out?

By yea right

December 2, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

yea right… Thomas county central lost to pius in 2006. so much for 27 game win streak in the playoffs at home. CHECK YOUR FACTS!!

By MArist Fan

December 2, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

Just make sure everyone knows…marist lost to the AAA St. Pius team…that couldnt make it past the first round of the AAA state playoffs. WAY TO GO MARIST. WARRRR EAGLESSSS!!!!

not…

By HSBallfan

December 2, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Ummm… line or no line, I doubt anyone would consider Griffin a south Georgia town, except for a few clearly desperate fans to whom such trivia is important.

By HS Football Fan

December 2, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

The Lowndes / Grayson game is now ON DEMAND. I was wondering if they re-edited before posting the game ON DEMAND. Please let me know. Because I thought the game was done poorly. Usually they do a better job capturing the game.

By HSBallfan

December 2, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

By MArist Fan… not: Just make sure everyone knows…marist lost to the AAA St. Pius team and that was three months ago, so other than just to be obnoxious, your point is?

By Cougarfan

December 2, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Just thought it was interesting that the final four AAAAA teams all had a hand in eliminating 1-AAAAA from the playoffs. Camden first took out NSWR then Newnan wiped out Tift Co. And of course last week P Ridge took care of Coffee and Grayson beat Lowndes. I am obviously a Newnan fan but you have to hand it to 1-AAAAA that is no doubt the toughest region in GA. Good luck to all teams playing this week. I am pumped for the Camden vs Newnan re-match.

By PRHS

December 2, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

FOR EVERYONE THAT GOES TO PEACHTREE RIDGE HIGH SCHOOL OR IS A FAN THAT IS GOING TO THE GAME IT IS A BLACK OUT FOR THE LIONS SO WEAR BLACK!!!!!! GOOO LIONS BEAT THE RAMS!1

By P RIDGE

December 2, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

to nhs trojans: in 2006 prhs won a share of the state tile while playing everygame on the road

By HoyaDawg

December 2, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Jaybo, I started watching the game friday, hoping Lowndes would win, because I wanted the PR to be the ones to put them out. From the opening plays I was shocked at the amount of trash talk,and the entire attitude of the Lowndes team.Trust me, I have done no name calling, or pointed out single players. I am not making my judgement on 2 or 3 plays either.I like good hard nose football. I dont have a problem with a questionable hit from time to time. I know players talk, and try to get in each others head, but I felt like Lowdes took it to the exstreme. I felt like they were putting out more energy after the play, than on the play itself. By the end of the 1st quater, I was a grayson fan. I had 3 phone calls during the game, from friends who are not connected to highschool football. and all of them wanted Lowndes to lose. My point is Lowndes made themselves very unlikable friday night. Some teams want to be seen that way, maybe Lowndes does also. As far as the youtube footage, the main point i see, that i saw during the game was that the headcoach did nothing to control his team.I dont know the coach, I only know what I saw, and I was not impressed with his lack of leadership.When the game ended friday night, I wanted to post, but I waited til monday. I had many reasons running through my head, as to why the coach had no reaction. It almost seemed as if he wanted things to come apart. It is unfair for me to judge the man, and I will not, but, I can respond to the behavior that I saw, and it was weird, to say the least.

By John

December 2, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

To the person with the question about next year’s schedules:

Take this year’s schedules and reverse the home and away sites. The first full Friday night of games is August 28 so start counting from that date.

By RealisticEP_Fan

December 2, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Howadawg: I watched the Lowndes/Grayson game on Friday also, and came away feeling much as you did. I expected to see a super well coached well oiled football team with an extreme amount of discpline. I was expecting to see the 3rd best team in the country, and if that was it,,,,,,,,WOW is about all I can say. Very very disappointed. Grayson, looked poised, acted mature, and played very good football.

The Lowndes head coach as you said pretty much stood by at the end and did nothing. Perhaps he was letting his assistants do it, and to their credit I did see several trying to pull their on players back.

The problem is that it did paint a very poor picture of the team, and anyone who watched it will come away saying the same thing. Coach: message to you…discpline and respect start with you. You exposed your lack of character state-wide TV and now everyone knows what your team is and isn’t.

As an EP Fan……wow I’m super enouraged. We are a heck of a lot closer to being an elite team then I thought. That single game has shown the entire State how much parity is starting to creep into HS football at all levels. That old south GA mystic was pretty much shattered both by Grayson beating Lowndes pretty handily, and Lowndes letting us see what is behind the kilt(a total lack of class and discpline).

Lastly: Watch the entire game everyone and not just the youtube video. There was sniping after dang near every play.

By mikemike

December 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

CARVER YALL TALK THE TALK BUT CAIRO GOING TO WALK THE WALK ON THEM TIGERS THIS FRIDAY NIGHT.GO CAIRO!!!

By HoyaDawg

December 2, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Cougarfan, 3 teams in region 5 were also sent home by these teams. Harrison, East, and woodstock. Your point is invalid. If you think region 1 is strong, fine, but that logiic does’nt fly. I really don’t think region 1 is week, just not all it was talked up to be. Mix the 5 best from region 1, and the 5 best from region 5, and that would make for a good season. If I woiuld have made that comment 5 weeks ago, I would be blasted off the boards by south ga. fans. Harrison, east, Woodstock, showed that they could play with PR, Grayson, and Camden, as good as region 1 did. Mceachern, who did’nt even make the playoffs, played Grayson to a 31-21 game.Northcobb, who was our #7 team, beat MLK. Harrrison beat PR 13-3, before losing 17-7 in the playoffs. Harrison beat Lowndes 9-0 last year. My point is not to say reg. 1 is week. My point is to say they are not superior to other teams around the state. Ga. is a good state for highschool football, and it only seems to be getting better.

By CCHS Fan

December 2, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Just got my ticket to the Camden v Newnan game. I cannot wait till fri night. It’s gonna be a great one. Go Cats !!!!

By Vike-King

December 2, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Sincere congratulations to Grayson. And a special nod to “Jeff” who posted last week … gotta hand it to you, Jeff. You called the game perfectly. You said Grayson would try to keep it close, and they did. That Grayson’s big offensive line would hide Pemberton, and they did. That Pemberton was quick and elusive, and he was. That the rain would hurt Lowndes more, and it did. That Grayson was disciplined and patient, and they were. You must be a coach or a football god, because it turned out exactly like you said. And you or someone even called the score just right, too, at 17-7 (or very close to it). I commend you and your team.

Grayson exposed Lowndes’ weaknesses: First, they overpowered Lowndes on both lines. Second, they forced Lowndes to pass, which Lowndes cannot do well when they have to. Third, they exploited Greg Reid’s hot temper, got him riled up, and he was no longer a leader of his teammates. Several times this year Reid has been a showboater and a hotdogger and a prima donna. We Lowndes fans have overlooked it, but in our hearts we knew it wasn’t right, and sooner or later it would hurt us. If Reid does not change his attitude he will never play in college. And yes, against Grayson he was taunting and smack-talking from the very beginning, mostly after the plays were over.

Grayson had a great game plan and they executed it to perfection. Lowndes relied on Reid’s playmaking and he broke one long score, but Grayson contained him on two other long runs, and then a combination of Grayson’s defense and Lowndes’ errors moved Lowndes backwards. The game was as close as Grayson’s ability to keep Reid in check after his long score in the 2nd quarter.

Besides Reid, Lowndes really had no other weapons. They tried Tyler Hunter at QB with some passes, but as a sophomore he wasn’t quite ready mentally for such a challenge. And Khary Franklin is just too short to effectively pass against a good strong big tall defensive line like Grayson has. I really thought that Lowndes would try something different on offense once they realized that Grayson was shutting them down, but Lowndes never did. This might be the only weakness by Lowndes Coach Randy McPherson … to develop an alternative game plan once you are faced with a team like Grayson who can shut down the Wing-T, and to be able to adjust at halftime. Of course, you do what you are forced to do, and all year long no team had forced Lowndes to abandon its tried-and-true plan of run, run, run, and kill ‘em with your quickness, so McPherson & Co were never really motivated to develop an alternative.

I thought at some point Lowndes might put Hunter in at QB, put Reid in at one wing, and Franklin at the other, and try to mix ‘em up, even with some double-handofffs, which might have advanced the ball some more. Grayson allowed Reid his yards, but nobody else. If Grayson had been trying to contain Reid and Franklin (who’s actually faster than Reid) at the same time, with both of them coming from opposite sides of the wing, it might have given Lowndes a better chance. Grayson’s variation of the wing and the way they used Pemberton was really something. Grayson took advantage of Pemberton’s small size, ran him parallel to the line, and altered its routine, sometimes handing off to Pemberton, sometimes faking to him, somethies pitching to him, and even using him at QB in the second half. This was smart and good coaching by Grayson and Lowndes really never did adjust or react well enough to stop it.

Grayson has as good a chance of any of the other three to win it, but it seems like that IF they run into a team that can stop Pemberton and make Grayson pass, they will be in trouble … ironically the same way they beat Lowndes. Also, if they try to get into a scoring match with anyone, they will be in jeopardy. Pea Ridge can run and pass well, and they have the big fast runnning back and smart sharp QB who’s a good passer, as well as a disciplined big offensive and defensive line like Grayson. So the Grayson/PeaRidge game ought to be good, tough and tight. I thought PeaRidge played Lowndes as well as any team earlier this year when Lowndes won 22-7.

Someone mentioned Lowndes would have to reload this year … not really. They return about 16 players who were full- or part-time starters, including all of the offensive skill players except Reid and Gerald Demps, who is primarily a DB. So they will be in the hunt again. Losing Reid’s superb athletic ability will hurt, but losing his showboating attitude will not. Maybe it can be a fresh start for the Vikings, with maybe more emphasis on passing the ball so they can be more effective with it when they have to. Many things must happen just right to win back-to-back state titles, especially in class 5A. Lowndes fell a bit short, but the program looks very strong for many years ahead.

To Grayson once again … congratulations on a great win. Your program has arrived and I expect you to compete each year to be the team to beat coming out of Region 8. Good luck to you, PeaRidge, Newnan and Camden in what will be a great final four, with 3 of 4 teams undefeated.

By BODOG

December 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

TO REEZE,SLALOM1, SGT……..JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I PLAYED FOOTBALL IN GREAT STATE OF GEORGIA, AND I REALLY ENJOY HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL….TO ME IT IS THE LAST PIRE SPORT LEFT COMPARED TO COLLEGE, AND PRO. I LOVE GEORGIA HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL. I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF GAMES, AND IN JOYED EVERYONE OF THEM……HOWEVER, THE ONLY PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS GIVING EVERY SCHOOL A CHANCE TO FAIRLY COMPETE; OTHERWISE TO ME IT’S NO FUN SEEING A TEAN BLOW OUT SOMEONE 75-0….IT IS NOT RIGHT TO ALLOW CARVER OF COLUMBUS OR SHAW OF COLUMBUS IN PAST YEARS TO HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO CHERRY PICK PLAYERS FROM 12,000 STUDENTS. i AM GOING TO CONTACT MUSCOGEE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD(FAT CHANCE) AND TRY TO GET SOME ANSWERS IF NOT THEN I AM GOING TO CONTRACT MR. SWEARGIN IN THOMASTON, AND GET A DEFINITIVE ANSWER OR AT LEAST GET HIM TO LOOK INTO THIS RECRUITING…..

By VikingConqueror

December 2, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Congratulations to the Grayson RamNation for winning a hard fought football contest. No woulda, coulda, shoulda’s from this LHS fan - you won. I’ll chalk up the extracurricular incidents during the game to the intensity of emotional struggle.

I would now encourage the Grayson team to forget about last Friday and focus on winning the next game. I wouldn’t want to see a let down in performance after an obviously emotional win against my LHS Vikes.

Good luck to Camden, Newnan, Grayson and Peachtree Ridge. You’re all winners.

By Todd Holcomb

December 2, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

In your column entitled, ” North Stands Out in Play-Offs”, You write, “Of the 20 teams remaining in all classifications, 12 are from north Ga”. Then you identfied north georgia as a line running north of La Grange across to north of Augusta. Yet, you count in Griffin which is below that line and never is identified as North ga.

I’m talking about the northern half of the state. I realize that Griffin isn’t North Georgia the way that Rome or Gainesville is. But if given the choice of North Georgia and South Georgia, where would you put Griffin? And according to my map, Griffin is most definitely on the northern side of the line from LaGrange and Augusta. It’s technically metro Atlanta. If I’d chosen the traditional Columbus-Macon-Augusta line, then LaGrange would make it 13 “North Georgia” teams. I figure 12 is a good compromise.

How many teams have won aa State Championship while playing EVERY game on the road? Because that is what Flowery Branch will have to do to win it all. Just curious.

Well, Flowery Branch hasn’t played EVERY game on the road, has it? I assume you mean playoff games.

Peachtree Ridge did it in 2006. The state playoffs used to be just three rounds, so it was not rare before 1990. I don’t think P-Ridge is the only team to do it since then, but it’s the only one I know without doing a bit of research.

By CougarDan

December 2, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

On the coin-toss thing … Newnan and Camden coaches met at a restaurant about half-way between the two schools. A Newnan coach was selected as the ‘tosser’. He offered 3 different quarters to the Camden coach, who chose the Texas state quarter (either he is from there, knows that Texas HS football is good, or just roots for a school from there - not really sure) and then called the toss. He lost. Now we in Newnan hope/plan to see a little revenge in Drake Stadium!

By HoyaDawg

December 2, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Great post Vike-King, I will say everything posted about the lowndes fans has been positive. I will also say that success at an early age can go to ones head. Maybe that’s the case, maybe not. I hope any player from Lowndes or any other Ga. schools, represent us well in college. I dont like to call players out, but I will say this. If the preasure does’nt get to him, watch #7 for the Ridge. Great player,talks with his play, and should represent ga. well next year at LSU.

By JAYBO

December 2, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Vike-king,

GREAT POST…..I don’t need to say anything else!!!!!!

By John

December 2, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

What games will be televised this week-end? Camden-Newnan?

By Bill from Dublin

December 2, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Sorry if I missed someone’s correction, but Dublin has won at least 10 games the last 5 years as well.

By CANEFAN

December 2, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

*ATTENTION*** WHAT IS UP ON NEWNAN’S HEAD COACH LEAVING??? I SAW ON JOB POSTINGS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A HEAD COACH

By Band Mom Gone Wild

December 2, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

By TrojanSportsFan December 1, 2008 10:56 PM i haven’t been able to get on here the last few days but can i state where were lowndes officials from well like all season Coffee had Atlanta officials this time in METRO ATLANTA suprising no..i reckon u can buy anything now..LOWNDES YALL ARE WAY BETTER THAN GRAYSON..As for Peachtree Ridge our unsportsmanship please everytime we had a player hurt yall had cheerleaders cheering players not kneeling very much a lack of respect thanks NORTH GA..Man I THINK WE NEED 2 Start Recruiting lol messed up

TrojanSportsFan…man, I hate this the officials were biased crap. The officials are assigned by the association. The schools have nothing to do with who they are. Additionally, I believe that the officials who are assigned to playoff games are from across the state. A guy I used to work with was a HS football official and this time last year he was traveling three, four, five hours away every Friday. So cut the BS… it had nothing to do with “biased” officiating; you all were just outplayed plain and simple.

As far as not being respectful when a player was hurt; I saw our team take a knee each and every time. I did notice, however, that it wasn’t right away all the time, but those of us watching the game didn’t always know that a player was down either. I don’t know if it was because the announcer didn’t say anything or if there was confusion; the trainers went out on the field during those officials’ timeouts and gave the Trojans water rather than the team heading over to the sidelines like we normally see. I know that I, for one, thought that they were just regular timeouts until I saw our players “take a knee.”

I wasn’t going to mention these things, but since you brought it up, I really don’t think you should be talking about PR’s supposed lack of sportsmanship. (By the way, PR didn’t have three personal foul penalties in a row. I believe you did.) The Trojans have a bit to learn about proper football game decorum.

Common courtesy dictates that when the teams are in position, the play is about to be called and the ball hiked the bands are silent. If they’re in the middle of a song, they stop. The drum major is responsible for keeping an eye on the field and knowing when and when not to direct his/her band to play their music. Right away those of us PR Band Parents manning the visitor’s side concession stand noticed that the Trojan band began playing each and every time PR had the ball, from the time they were in the huddle up until when the play ended. Mind you, they seemed to know not to play when the Trojans had the ball. Go figure! This may be subtle, but it is still unsportsmanlike.

Your sidelines were filled with what appeared to be spectators who were standing not behind the bench, but right on the sidelines out near the end zone. I’ve never seen that before. It’s not only unprofessional and distracting but dangerous. At one point our school resource officer went over and asked that people who weren’t part of the team vacate the area.

All of these things say to me that Coffee County, isn’t quite ready to play with the “mature city boys.” Maybe next year.

P.S. I highly recommend that a spell and grammar checker be at the top of your Christmas list!

Gooooo Lions!

By Homet

December 2, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Vike-King

I would also like to commend you for your post…That was the first time I had seen Lowndes and would like to think that was NOT how they play/act all the time…

JAYBO…Sorry I disagree with you, Lowndes was doing this ALL GAME LONG, especially their BIG DOG Reid…but like another poster said…THAT WAS LAST WEEKS GAME, let’s move on to this week…LOL!

By GraysonFan2

December 2, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Viking-king,

Great post. Been waiting for one like that!

By Showboat This

December 2, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

The Super 11 article indicated Mr. Reid has a 2.2 GPA. If that is correct, he will likely be home for Christmas in 2009 and New Year’s Day 2010 and Presidents Day and Good Friday and Easter and Memorial Day. Passing grades, not showboating will keep you in college. No matter how talented an athlete a college can only cover for you so long before giving a player the boot.

By dunwoodyfan

December 2, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

By the way, what was number 23’s problem? did he get ejected? because he didnt seem hurt, but he was throwing a bit of a tantrum on the dunwoody bench.

I think you mean #32. Treavor Scales ended up with a pretty serious concussion. Immediately after the injury, he had no recollection of where he was. The short term memory loss is better now, but took several days. he left the game to go to the ER.

By gdg73

December 2, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

I watched the replay of the Cairo/Carver game from last year the other day. It was clear that only two players really killed Cairo last year, Fortson and Furr. Carver does have a big defensive line, but they were sucking wind in the 4th quarter, as evidenced by Cairo running the ball down their throats on a 8 minute, 98 yard TD drive that put Cairo ahead 13-9. Furr scored on a 30 yard run on the ensuing drive for the go-ahead TD. Everybody is saying that Carver is just as good as last year. I’m not buying it. You just don’t replace two BEASTS like that. Look out for Cairo’s three-headed monster in the backfield (Pease QB, Bryant RB, and Wooten RB). Bryant is the tough in-between the tackle back that reminds me of Marion Barber. His legs never stop moving. Pease is one of the best QBs in Ga., regardless of classification. And if Wooten gets loose in the open field, you might as well strike up the band. I am hoping for a good game. And I hope the referees call an even game. With 17 of 22 starters returning and revenge being a factor, I’ll put my money on the Syrupmakers.

By cat

December 2, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Charlton County also had a 10 game win streak going. From 1995-2007, Charlton won at least 10 games.

By nomo

December 2, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Homet….can’t believe I’m actually agreeing with your posts, but dang if you don’t make sense…good to see this side of you!

HoyaDawg…those of us in the know realize the physical game we are in for this Friday - I would compare P Ridge to the likes of Brookwood and East Paulding as the two most physical teams we’ve (Grayson)seen this year…certainly no disrespect to Lowndes, but just a different type of game this week.

One Lowndes Player…I look forward to reviewing the DVD to see the player you speak of - tremendous class and very touching….thanks for sharing!

Vike-king….fantastic post, and as has been the case with most Lowndes folks this week, you’ve shown the true side of a champion.

Peachtree Ridge….congrats on a great season, and I hope we give you the best game you’ve had this year. I’ve seen four games on film now, and I’m impressed. One of us will surely make the county proud in the finals.

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

cj, Really wish that I had chosen my words better when talking about the numerical advantage Carver is enjoying in Muscogee Co. After reading what I wrote, it sounds like “whining” But, I did state that Carver is doing nothing NOTHING illegal. I was actually responding to a question from another poster who asked why there is so much disparity among the football programs in Columbus, Ga. That was my answer. Dell McGee is a charismatic, highly qualified head coach who also has integrity. Nothing wrong with that. What parent would not want their son to play for Dell McGee? But, just take a look at the number of Carver players who actually live outside of the Carver school district. It was the same for Shaw when Charles Flowers was at the helm. You asked the question about LaGrange, Troup, and Callaway. The answer is straight up. The rule in Troup Co is that NO ONE attends high school outside of their own school district, unless their parent or guardian is employed by the school in question. I am not whining. Look, I would have been delighted for the Grangers to have had Chris Burnette from Troup, along with Quan Bray from Callaway. But it simply does not work that way in Troup Co. You have what you have. And, by the way, I AM pulling for Carver against Cairo. Best of luck.

By BILLY JACK

December 2, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

HEY JAYBO-IF YOU HAD BEEN AT THE GRAYSON-LOWNDES GAME YOU WOULD NOT SOUND LIKE A MORON.MY SON PLAYS FOR GRAYSON AND THIS STARTED IN THE 1ST QTR AND JUST GOT WORSE.WHEN GRAYSON REALLY STARTED MANHANDLING LOWNDES -IT GOT EVEN WORSE.I HAVE COACHED HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL IN GEORGIA IN THE PAST FOR 11 YRS AND NEVER HAVE SEEN SPORTSMANSHIP LIKE LOWNDES DISPLAYED.VIKING COACHES LET IT GO.COACH CONN WOULD NEVER PERMIT MY SON OR ANY OTHER RAM PLAYERS DISRESPECT ADULTS-OFFICIALS AND EVEN THIER OWN COACHES LIKE WHAT HAPPENED FRI NIGHT-SO YES IT IS A BIG DEAL AND IM SURE THE GHSA THINKS IT IS TOO.WE KNOW PCHTREE RIDGE AND KNOW THEY HAVE ALOT OF CLASS LIKE WE DO.WE ALSO KNOW NOT ALL S GA TEAMS ARE LIKE THIS.WE DID PLAY CAMDEN CO LAST YEAR AT THIER PLACE AND ALSO HAD A COUPLE OF MINOR ALTERCATIONS MOSTLY FROM THIER FANS.GREAT SEASON FOR WOODSTOCK YOU GUYS ARE A CLASS ACT ALSO.FYI JAYBO DONT COMMENT ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT-THESE ARE THE FACTS AND THEY ARE UNDISPUTED

By Todd Holcomb

December 2, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Sorry if I missed someone’s correction, but Dublin has won at least 10 games the last 5 years as well.

Thanks. I will add Dublin.

Charlton County also had a 10 game win streak going. From 1995-2007, Charlton won at least 10 games.

Yep, that was 13 straight years. Remarkable streak. But of course, I was listing CURRENT streaks.

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans, Great to hear from you again. Appreciate the “heads up” regarding Flowery Branch. A couple of weeks ago, I was thinking that we might get to see that match-up between LG and N. Hall that we talked about in 2007. You mentioned early in the season that “this is a very young N. Hall team”. Well with that being the case, I believe they did pretty darn good. I will look out for them in 2009. Getting back to LG vs. F. Branch, nothing would surprise me at this point. Don’t know if you have followed the LG saga this year or not, but this is one gritty group of players. Not the most talented LG team I have ever seen, but quite possibly the most determined. We have had huge losses on both sides of the ball in 2008, yet when one goes down, someone else rises up. Against Dunwoody we lost our stud RB, Ocie Salter. Have no idea what his status is for the game. But that is simply typical for this season. We also lost QB Jamius Gunsby for the year after Game 6. Lost WB John Jackson at about the same time. Tristian Johnson had knee surgery. Ivan Dowell had hernia surgery. I could go on and on. The list which goes back to pre-season includes no less than 11 key players who were lost for the season or at least for several games. The good news that except for Brian Dowell, the defense appears to be near 100% as they were before Game 1. The special teams play is outstanding, with the kicking game possibly the best in the state. When the Grangers have to punt, or kick-off, the opposing team will rarely get the ball outside of their own 20 yd. line. But again, lots of respect for Flowery Branch, but I like the Grangers’ chances.

By Wolverine Fan

December 2, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Hypathetically (sp) speaking….What would would happen if a team was caught playing ineligable players during a playoff game?

By 800lbGorilla

December 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

REALISTIC

I have been quietly thinking the same about Ep as well. There was no secret to what Grayson would do against Lowndes.

Ball control. eat up clock ect. Good job Grayson.

By topper

December 2, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

to wolverine senior: camden only missed 1 extra point they went for 2 on the other 2 td’s.

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

BoDog, If I were you I would completely by-pass the Muscogee Bd. of Ed. and go straight to the GHSA. In Muscogee Co, they kind of like things the way they are. They are okay with ONE school dominating in football.(for the time being, Carver). Also having ONE school dominating baseball,(Columbus High School). In all fairness to Carver, Columbus High School enjoys the same advantage in baseball as Carver enjoys in football. Plus, Columbus High School is a magnet school composed of the “best of the best academically” ranking among the state’s TOP 10 combined SAT scores EVERY YEAR. Carver on the other hand, ranks among the TOP 10 “lowest” combined SAT scores in the state on a regular basis. That is not to slam Carver. But, take a look at the 15 “letters of intent” in football signed by Carver in 2007. Where are these kids now? My point is simple: Spread the wealth around both academically and athletically. It ain’t gonna happen in Columbus.

By Garry S

December 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

Hey mike mike, Thanks ,you put it better than any one on ths blog . Cairo Will walk the walk. Just like gdg 73 stated. We ran the ball down their throat on that 98 yard drive We have everybody back,so why cant we run it this year. Plus that great quarterback that beat us on last play of game is gone.How do they say carver will win. Extra note Our middle school won our distict championship 2 years in a row. So after loosing most of our starters, it will not take long to rebuild.[probably right after spring practice.We were sitting in that same position 2 to 3 years ago. look at us now. GO MAKERS,[FUTURE 2008 AAA CHAMPS]LETS CHEER THEM ON MIKE MIKE]

By Jeff

December 2, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

Kudos to Vike-King for the manly post. I must say the game turned out just like I envisioned. I am not a coach or player though, but a band dad. I’m still waiting to hear something from Mancow and GR#24 from the other blog, but I don’t think that will happen. GR showed his true colors at the game.

Now, Ridge fans. Can’t wait for this game. You are the kind of team that gives us fits, with a balanced offensive attack and big defense. This game could go either way depending upon turnovers and special teams play. I expect you to have a long pass play on us and I expect Grayson to run a few long drives. I’ll go out on a limb and predict 14-7 Grayson.

By Brookwood Mom

December 2, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

OK I just can’t hold back anymore. everyone keeps bashing LOWNDES and everyone keeps putting GRAYSON on a pedal stoole! Yes, I am happy that Grayson won, BUT GRAYSON should not be put on a pedal stoole for “showing” real class. IF YOU ALL remember how my BRONCOS were treated I don’t think GRAYSON showed any class that night!! and nobody BUT ME made an issue about it. Now that the number one team in the STATE has talked a little trash and maybe pushed a few people around then all of a sudden LOWNDES is the worst team in the State of GA. Also, I know it wasn’t the football team, but GRAYSON did come over and spray a BIG G on our football field and no one said anything about that either! I don’t think that was very classy either. I am over it already and I do sincerely wish Grayson the best Friday night, but if you are going to “bash” then “bash” fairly. You know WE ALL are guilty of trash talking other teams. I think we need to be supportive of each other and may the best team win. Like I said in my blog weeks ago, the winners are the ones who want it bad enough, they work harder, train harder, and act a team together. It takes a whole team to win, not just one person. There is only one person who stays at the top and that is GOD! GRAYSON is having their year this year and they may have a few more years, but there will be another school team that will be bigger, better and stronger that will come along and take the crown. Coach Conn is pumped up, he is excited and he has the fire. We will see in 10 years if his flame is still that strong.

Now, with all of that being said, GO RAMS!!! Make this Region 8 mom proud and bring that STATE CHAMPIONSHIP to Gwinnett!! GOOD luck to the rest of you guys as well. Now quit bashing LOWNDES and try to understand the pain those boys are going through because you know they are still mourning Friday’s loss. SO EVERYONE be nice OK!!

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

TODD, The “North Ga.” line should be drawn at 285-South. Griffin, Newnan, LaGrange should be considered “Central Ga.”. (Although we like to think of ourselves as more like South Ga. than N. Georgia.)

By Colubia Blue

December 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan

Who would be that crazy. All grades are checked at the beginning of the year. They are not based on this semester.

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

TODD, Going back to pre-season ratings, “What were you thinking?” Do you remember what I said about teams dropping down or playing up in classification? You were high on Baldwin dropping down from AAAA to AAA, high on St. Pius X dropping down from AAAA to AAA. What did I say? ” Dropping down or playing up is not going to amount to more or less than 10% either way.” A good team is a good team. Baldwin is gone. St. Pius X LONG gone. Harris Co did quite well while “moving up” from AAA to AAAA. But again, when play-off time rolled around, not much difference. NSWR while moving up from AAAA did quite well. They showed the state that they are a legit AAAAA team, even though we all know that 2008 NSWR was not as strong as 2007 NSWR. TODD, it is all about the program, not the classification.

By GraysonFan2

December 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Brookwood mom,

I have forgotten about it since viking-king posted earlier today. Remember, it was not the football players at Grayson that painted your field it was our brainless wrestlers, lol. I also never thought they left the door locked for 20 min on purpose, they were all just out there celebrating, and that was a result of the wrong person having the key. enough said, this weekend will be a great game, I hope to meet you there this time. were that bBookwood hat again.

jeff, I predicted a 21-7 game, but I’ll take the 14-7, lol. The anticipation is killing me!

By Big Pappi

December 2, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

HOYADAWG - You left out region champions Etowah in your region 5AAAAA post? If we had played in the playoffs as well as we played against you guys, we can also compete with anyone in the state. Total dominance at the line of scrimmage with 4 offensive line starters back next year. 5AAAAA and 7AAAAA look to be the deepest regions for sure. No disrespect to Newnan and Camden, they deserve to be there, but just think if 4th seed Woodstock would have hung on?

By Sanity Rules

December 2, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

I think both semi-final games in AAAAA should be good ones but the winner between Newnan and Camden probably will be favored to take the whole thing. Who cares who beat Lowndes? It’s pretty clear they were overrated and would have been exposed sooner or later.

By Fair Play Fan

December 2, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

I love this blog but I hope everyone realizes that no region or part of the state in continuously superior to another. Some years in AAAAA the south teams will dominate, other years it will be teams from the north. This applies in all classifcations. Everyone need to get over it and be proud if your team is fortunate enough to be one of the elite this year. 2007 was the south’s year but 2008 the north reigns superior. Just be happy! Let play football——-

By Columbia Blue

December 2, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

HELLO SANITY

It is good to see you back on line. I tell ya, our Camden boys did not play very well last week.A lot of that had to do with Woodstock. They were a very well prepared team with a great bunch of kids. I tip my hat to WOODSTOCK. I think the boys in blue got a wakeup call last week. We will be ready to play a very good Newnan team.

By Brookwood Mom

December 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

GraysonFan2: Hey there!! I will definitely have the Brookwood Hat on and a Yellow London Fog jacket. I hope to meet you to. I can’t believe only two more weeks of football!! Where does the time go???

By Bears Fan

December 2, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this

Todd, has there been any news about where the Griffin-Tucker game will be played. I know Tucker won the coin toss, and wants to play at Adams. But Griffin wants to play at Dekalb Memorial where there are stands on both sides of the field. Have they finalized the location yet?

By SGT CHRIS

December 2, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

dunwoodyfan thanks for clearing that up on scales

slalom1 you took my post!!! lol..i was definitely gonna ask that question about chris burnette and if he had the choice of playing for troup or lagrange, who would he play for..quan bray in the backfield (sighs) or even callways QB and rodney back at WR..nope definitely no recruiting going on in troup county..i personally would prefer one school like in camden county so we could move up and dominate in 5A

and to all you cairo backers…beware of what you wish for..you got what youve been wanting all year and thats a rematch with carver… just because furr and fortson are gone, the game isnt going to be handed to you guys..THAT IS WHY THE GAMES ARE PLAYED..and as an added bonus, you get to travel to columbus…slalom already touched on the definite home field advantage, so keep that in mind as your sitting there booing every time you see a holding call that goes uncalled.

slalom1 how does this sound: AAA STATE CHAMPS—LAGRANGE AAAA STATE CHAMPS—GRIFFIN AAAAA STATE CHAMPS—NEWNAN…IF that happens, id say middle ga has the best football in the state (since chris laughed when i said lagrange was south ga)(still wondering why were always put in the south ga bracket when there were north and south ga championships)

By CougarDan

December 2, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Coach Herring of Newnan will be retiring after this season. After a very successful 46?yr career and a state title in Alabama, this beloved man will be moving on to enjoy the rest of his life with his wonderful wife and family. Although much of his career was not in Georgia, his 300+ wins puts him at the top of the all-time coaches not only in Georgia, but the entire Southeast - and I would dare say the entire country! Coaching what is likely the finest team he’s ever had the pleasure of mentoring and directing, wearing the crown of Georgia State AAAAA Champions will be sweet icing on the proverbial cake!

By Vike-King

December 2, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

Brookwood Mom: Please … pray tell, what is a “pedal stoole”? Perhaps you meant “pedestal”?

HoyaDawg: Yeah Minter #7 for the Ridge is a good one. Saw him against Lowndes.

Jeff: I’ll take your score … will you be my bookie?

Grayson guys … where and how did y’all grow those big, grain-fed, beef steers you had on the line? Was pleased to see that Grayson (school/stadium) was very country, not city at all. Very nice facilities and everything was first-class (even the concession food!), but why is it out there in the middle of nowhere? What are the boundaries of the Grayson school district? What is coach Conn’s background before he came to Grayson?

Grayson-Peachtree should be a good one. Lowndes comes out OK if either wins state this year … if it’s the Ridge, then we beat the state champs this year. If it’s Grayson, then our only loss was to the state champs.

By CAMDEN

December 2, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

does anyone know if the camden- newnan game will be on GPTV

By SGT CHRIS

December 2, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

CougarDan You mean coach herring’s 300 wins will put him NEAR the top. I dont think he has near as many wins as Larry Campbell at Lincoln County, who is again in the semis!!

By Emotional Wins

December 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Any sports fan knows when a team comes off an emotional win they are ripe for getting knocked off the following week. To me there have only been two ‘emotional wins’ during this year’s AAAAA playoffs. The first was Camden over the Warner Robbins school. Camden came within a gnats eyelash of stumbling against #4 seed Woodstock the following week. The second is Grayson’s domination of Lowndes. How Grayson handles this will be determined Friday night. Newnan and PeachTree Ridge have not had emotional wins, they have just gone about their business and won. Hey, when was the last time all four AAAAA semi-final teams are #1 seeds (even if Camden’s #1 seed comes with an *).

By Where's the * ?

December 2, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Just for the record. Unlike at Camden, Larry Campbell at Lincoln County does not have smaller schools in his region playing-up to inflate his winning record.

By All about game

December 2, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

SGT CHRIS the only reason tht other bloggers was talking about Furr and Folston being out is because it was being talked about how Carver would dominate and cairo couldnt run on them bla bla bla.We are the ones saying you still have to play the game.and for the refs, if it comes down to them not calling fair game,it would be a shame to have to need thre help.

By pedal stoole?

December 2, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

FYI. A “pedal stoole” is what soccer moms sit on during soccer matches.

By GraysonFan2

December 2, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

Viking-king

Grayson is on the far east county lineof Gwinnett County bordering Walton County. We are pretty far away from the city. It was building up here so fast before the recession. Im not sure but I think it was the fastest growing city in Georgia for a couple of years. I guess thats a good thing from the recession, lol. Coach Conn played High School football at South Gwinnett High, from there he went to school and played football at Alabama. Came back to South to coach after he graduated, then ended up at Grayson as head coach one year later. Any one can correct me if Im wrong, but this is what I’ve heard.

thanks for all the compliments!

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

SGT CHRIS, All the above is right on the money. Hope it turns out that way.

By SportsFan31313

December 2, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

I am at a lost for words. I am totally stunned and shocked that Lowndes County got beat by a team unknown to me.

As far as Coffee County goes, well, I did give it a toss up early last week giving Peachtree Ridge Home Field advantage. However; I didn’t think that Coffee County would have gotten blown out like that.

But like I said before,”THIS IS GEORGIA FOOTBALL EVERYBODY!!!!! ON ANY GIVEN SATURDAY, THE BEST CAN BE BEATEN”.

Congrads goes out to Grayson, and Peachtree Ridge onn their wins against two very good football teams.

Now I still have Perinnial County Camden County Region 3-AAAAA Champions still remaining unbeaten. Whom are my favorite to win the Class AAAAA State Chamnpionship.

Newnan you are a very good team. I always said it. But I just don’t believe you can beat a Jeff Herron’s South Georgia Camden County Football team.

This will probably be a fight to the finish for Newnan but Camden County will win State. Bring it on home to Region 3-AAAAA. I am behind you all the way.

By Brookwood Mom

December 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

Vike-King: No I meant it how I spelled it. That a way all the redneck folks will know what I was talking about!! Any more questions?? and by the way I am NOT a soccer Mom!

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

NEWNAN COUGAR FANS: Just got the word that Coach Herring is retiring after the 2008 season. What a huge loss. All the more reason for the Cougars to give Coach Herring his finest coaching moment. I only met the man once. But that was all it took to know beyond any doubt that I was in the presence of greatness. Not only as a coach, but as a great human being. I will spare you the great stories from that night, but rest assured I will NEVER forget them.

By SportsFan31313

December 2, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

By Todd Holcomb Thanks for the info Todd, but please dont forget that Griffin also produced a Hall Of Famer in Mr. Rayfield Wright.

Greetings Todd,

If I’m not mistaken, did’nt NFL Super Star Wille Gault go to Griffin?

By MIKEMIKE

December 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

WHEN CAIRO GET THROUGH CARVER WE GOING TO CHANGE THEY NAME TO CARVER SYRUPMAKERS NUMBER 2 LOL. GO CAIRO TAME THEM TIGER.

By 300 Wins Low on List

December 2, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

These records are not current but go to ‘www.nflhs.com/News/Records/11man_coaching.asp’ to view a dated list of high school football coaching wins. I knew John Curtis from LA (418), GA Moore from TX (412) and Gorden Wood from TX (396) would be high on the list but never heard of the coach at the top- John McKissick from SC (519). Larry Campbell of Lincoln County was the highest GA coach with 377+.

By P-ridge fan

December 2, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Brookwood Mom: First of all, its pedestal, not pedal stool.

Second, I believe that Grayson is being commended for not stooping down to the level of Lowndes, because we all know how tempting it can be to retaliate when someone else fights dirty.

Third, I find it kind of hard to believe that Grayson would spraypaint a big G on your field without permission or anyone noticing.

Fourth, why do you want Grayson to beat us?

I think Peachtree Ridge usually gets a lot better as the season progresses. Example: we lost our first two games of this season (to Harrison and Lowndes) but we haven’t lost a game since including solid wins over very strong teams like Norcross, North Gwinnett, and Harrison, as well as an emphatic 38-0 win over Coffee, which isn’t that bad, considering they beat 1st seed Stephenson.

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

Spotsfan 31313, You got most everything right except for the fact that Newnan is going to whip your south Georgia butts. Not even a real close game. Newnan 24 Camden 7.

By P-ridge fan

December 2, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

Check out the video: http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?SectionID=7&SubSectionID=7&PollID=163

By slalom1

December 2, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

SportsFan31313, Willie Gault most definitely played for Griffin. I ran track against him. (Not very pretty) at least not for my side of the family.

By SportsFan31313

December 2, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

Greetings Slalom1,

Yep I know of him too. I’ve known him from the relays back in the day. He was known for his world class track speed than football.

What High School did you run track?

By nhscuga

December 2, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

Almost every Newnan cougar has known that this is his last year. I have known since before last season was over. I have known coach Herring for 10 years, because he has been my neighbor but I consider him a grandfather more than a neighbor. He is not only THE GREATEST COACH IN NEWNAN HISTORY and one of the greatest high school coaches in the nation, but a truly great, Christian man, so the Cougars will have a huge loss this season. We love Coach and will miss him dearly.

P.S. Please don’t move when you retire :)

By SportsFan31313

December 2, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Slaom1,

With admiration for a good Newnan Football Team out of region 4-AAAAA, I don’t believe thatr they could beat such a Perrinial Power House of Region 3-AAAAACamden County.

I predicted all of Newnan playoffs correctly. Now it’s the for Newnan’s ride to come to an end. I don’t care where the game is played. It could be in Newnan, it could be in Camden County, it could be in the Dome. Newnan will not beat Camden County.

I siad at the beginning of the season that Camden County will win the Class AAAAA State Title. The only thing that did’nt come to past was that Lowndes County didn’t win.

I had Region 1-AAAAA Lowndes County VS Region 3-AAAAA Camden County for the State Title. But Heck, the way Grayson played Lowndes County and stunned the world, I believe the State Title will be decided between Grayson, and Camden County.

If I am wrong, then show me something to prove me wrong. maybe you know somethihng that I don’t know.

The State Title will be delivered to Region 3-AAAAA.

By nhscuga

December 2, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

Wow CougarDan Im sorry to put down a fellow Newnan Cougar but you are way off. Coach Herring has won 5 state championships, 2 in Mississippi(Winston Academy) and 3 in Alabama(Oxford) and I think his coaching career has lasted 48 years. Also, he doesn’t have the most wins in the southeast or the state, but was named Athletic Director of the year for the WHOLE Southeast at Oxford and was flown out to California to receive this accolade!

By SportsFan31313

December 2, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

By slalom1 Spotsfan 31313, You got most everything right except for the fact that Newnan is going to whip your south Georgia butts. Not even a real close game. Newnan 24 Camden 7.

Hey Slalom1,

Don’t bet on it. You may have to learn the HARD way, and it could be a painful loss.

By jose benzaca

December 2, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Grayson became very good because of the changing demographics in the Brookwood, Parkview, South Gwinnett districts. Families continue to move further out to the ‘burbs and the next stop out from those areas is Grayson. Parkview and Brookwood ruled in the area, now Grayson will be the lead dog in that district for a while. As far as the Grayson-Peachtree game on Friday, these are high school kids and emotions are very important. Grayson is coming from a very emotional win over Lowndes. I think they may have a bit of trouble trying to repeat that kind of emotion 2 weeks in a row.

By Pridge Student

December 2, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

I love how the grayson kids are talking about lowndes talking alot of trash but yall are doing the same thing. PRHS made an event page on facebook for the game on friday and grayson kids have been going on it and writing stuff about how we suck and they are gonna dominate us and crap like that

By NTH Trojans

December 2, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Slalom,

Sorry it has been so long since my last post, but it’s good to chat with you again. Yes, I have been following LG football, and I’m quite aware of the injuries that have plagued them this year. Any other team and I wouldn’t give them a chance against FB or a State Championship. So tell me, what do you think of 7AAA this year? Not too shabby with 3 teams advancing to the 2nd round (same as 2AAA), 2 advancing to the quarters (same as 2AAA), and 1 in the semis. In my opinion, the only region better than region 7 in AAA is region 2. How do you see it?

By NHS alumni

December 2, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Newnan High has always been in my blood. I had the opportunity to be at the ‘81 state game when we were beaten by a very good Warner Robins team. I have to say after watching this team all year, they are very grounded and they know what the job entails. This is a GREAT group of young men and they have worked their bums off to get where they are. The ‘81 team was good but you can actually see greatness in this ‘08 team. Just go out there and do your job. We will know the out come after 4 quarters of play!

Congrats to all of the teams in the state who have made it this far!!!!

GO COUGARS!!!!!!!!!!

By Brookwood Mom

December 2, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

P-ridge Fan: I know how to spell “pedestal” I guess no one else saw my “humor” in the way I spelled it. Anyway, I know for a fact that a BIG G was sprayed on my field because I saw it with my own two eyes. I heard 8 boys from Grayson got arrested for destruction of property. I don’t know how they got caught. They were probably to stupid to keep a watch out or they were bragging to the wrong people. Either way they got caught. Besides what IDIOT is going to ask for permission to spray paint a G on our field?

I am rooting for Grayson only because they are in my Region and it “looks” better for my BRONCOS if Region 8 wins. Plus I come to like GraysonFan2.

PS May the best team win!! Also, just a little FYI my son took Karate with Asher Clark (your QB that graduated last year) when they were 6 years old. They both got their black belts together. I am very proud of how Asher turned out!.

By GraysonFan2

December 2, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

Its just the fans and students not the players, they have very disciplined coaches that will clear their heads of all this crap. As they did last week leading up to the Lowndes game!

By Syrupmaker

December 2, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

Cairo. Cairo CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO !CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO !CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO !CAIRO! GET THE POINT. CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! wE KNOW SOME OF YALL DONT LIKE THAT WORD BUT GET USE TO IT. CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! Our fans will have plenty reasons to say that word friday night. CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO! CAIRO!GOOOOOOOOOO MAKERS.Future 2008 aaa champions.

By leechampion

December 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

Cairo, ya’ll come on up here so we can play a real good football game Friday night.Yes, no duh, we all know how good Furr/Fortson were and that they are long gone. what ya’ll don’t realize is the QB whose parents are in the army moved to Cols from Texas and has gotten better every week. Yes we know ya’ll have everybody back so the pressure is on ya’ll. you probably should have won last year but Furr did to ya’ll what he did to everybody, he beat ya’ll. I will be the first to say Carver is not as good as last year, especially with Jarvis Jones standing on the sideline w a broken thumb. Ya’ll come on up here anyway so we can play the GAME. if you win great. if you don’t then take a right out of infamous corrupt home team owns the refs MoMo stadium and head on back to Cairo and get ready for next year.See ya’ll Friday.

By GraysonFan2

December 2, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

Does anyone know if the Grayson/Ptree ridge game will be televised ?

How about the Newnan/Camden game?

radio or tv, I’ll take any info.

By CamdenCat

December 2, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

Newnan Cougars where to start……….YALL ARE A JOKE! Yall havent played any real challenge yet and you are not dont play with any heart! Camden WILL smash you to pieces this game will not even be close! Just give up now, cuz if you dont lay down and die it will be a slow painful death lasting 4 long quarters hahahaha yall got the catscratch fever thats funny haha yall are a joke the real cats will stand out friday night that no boys from Newnan can even compare to a south georgia team…………ha and yall think yall have a shot

By CAMDENCOUNTYALLTHEWAY

December 2, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

camden will SMASH NEWNAN. Theres only room for one Big Cat in this state and the Wildcats from Camden County will blow you out of the water!

By nhscuga

December 2, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

Wow you guys need to quit talking like that it will be a great game and the best team will win, whether it be Newnan or Camden . Go Cougars

By SYRUPCITY NATION

December 2, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

leechampion our past and future stars are home grown, from Bill Stanfill Jackie Robinson, Teresa Edwards Cliff hammonds,Bobby Walden, LIST GOES ON ANDON

By MIKEMIKE

December 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

CAIRO SYRUPMAKER CAIRO SYRUPMAKER CAIRO SYRUPMAKER!!!!!! CARVER SYRUPMAKERS OPPS DID I SAY THAT WORD. GO CAIRO BEAT THEM CRAZY TIGER IN THEY HOME TOWN.

By The Punisher

December 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

sportsfan31313..Come to the game and watch camden get the h—- beat out of them.This is the best team in the state ,your talk is cheap you don’t football that’s ok come to the game and learn. [come one come all]… [The Punisher]

By Reeze

December 2, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this

Leechampion….I don’t think Carvers defense will miss a beat with Jarvis Jones out…I really can’t call this one…. I think Carver’s defense is the best in state and Cairo’s offense is the best in state , im making the 2 hr trip from the wartown to see how my favorite defense and my favorite offense will matchup in this years 2008 thrilla.

By footballer

December 2, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

To camdenCat: what do u mean newnan has not played any tough teams? are yo saying north gwinnett is not a tough team

By Camden Mom

December 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

To all Camden and Newman Fans: The winner of this game want be the one whose is the better team because they are both Great. The Winner will be the team that doesn’t take the other with a grain of salt, makes little mistakes, plays with good sportsmanship and the one who wants it the most. We the bloggers can get on here an talk all that smack but thank goodness that the players are concentrating on the more important things and that is to take the field and give us a great game. I pray for a good game and the safety of the players. I get a little sensative when I think about this possibly being the last game for all of the seniors on both of the teams. If we look back on our highschool years as I do often it makes you realize that these were and are the greatest years of our and their lives. All the Camden Fans have a safe trip. Go Cats Go!!!!

By The Punisher

December 2, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

South Ga fan Camden will feel the pain over and over again. You guys don’t know football and your talk is cheap Newnan will bring the pain [COME OME COME ALL]….[“THE PUNISHER”]

By The Punisher

December 2, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

South Ga fan Camden will feel the pain over and over again. You guys don’t know football and your talk is cheap Newnan will bring the pain [COME OME COME ALL]….[“THE PUNISHER”]

By Reeze

December 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

Good luck to the Camden Wildcats after this season never again should anyone ever say anyhing about your soft region play, at least the Northside folks won’t…. Stadium ,Coaching staff ,Players ,Fans….I was really impressed with the entire program.

By Michael

December 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

To: Camden

The Camden Newnan football game will be broadcasted live (video coverage) on the internet on the GPB website which is:

http://www.gpb.org/football

By Newnan Dad 08

December 2, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

CamdenCat…Bring it, don’t sing it!

By leechampion

December 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

hey Reeze, love your attitude. thought i was only one who would drive that far just to watch a game that i had no “skin” in. im an old man wannabe that will drive to the “gameoftheweek” every Friday. Usually in Cols or Lagrange but every Friday. you are correct about Carver defense. Even w/o Jones they are very very good as showed last week against a talented Gainesville team.I can’t call this one either, but Cairo should not underestimate this Carver team. Big, fast, talented, deep and very well coached.oh how i long for Carver/Lagrange next weekend. don’t matter, will be at the dome Friday/Sat regardless.

By Newnan Dad 08

December 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Camden Mom…Thanks for the post. I know all Camden posters are are not like this Camden Cat. If you are coming to the game, have a safe trip up and back.

By Camden Mom

December 2, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

To Grayson Fan 2: I read on the GHSA web site that the Camden/Newman would be on GBS at 7:30 on Friday.

By JAYBO

December 2, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

Billy jane(jack),

I stated my opinion in a nice manner and everything with no words of disrespect…but you wanna attack me calling JAYBO a moron!!! My comments were based on the youtube video I saw and again, based on that I don’t see what all of the fuss is over!!! So chill with all of the bullsh.. you talking!!

How are you gonna talk about sportmanship and then get on here and attack another blogger for stating his opinion on what he saw….even calling me a moron!!! Ok, this obviously is your first time blogging and you don’t know much about JAYBO…let me tell you that I’ve been on here for two years and have the respect of most bloggers…usually my points are sound and often come with an unbiased point of view!!!

So you need to chill yo punk azz out!!!! If your son has a mouth like you, one of the Lowndes players should have bust him right in it!!!! Now quit crying, act like you are use to winning a big game, and get ready for your next game!!! Then leave JAYBO alone b/c I’m not the one dude!!!

By Cairo fan

December 2, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

Hey reeze and lee champion, I really agree,it should be a great game. I looked up points scored and points allowed this year both numbers or close . something like 380 to 370 range scored, cairo w/380 and 90to 84 range allowed, carver w/84 Its just fun to blog. every one having clean fun. Every team has to be good to get to quarter finals. ever who wins, I will say the best team won. good luck, see ya friday.

By JAYBO

December 2, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

I’ve got to say this and it will be my last comment about the Lowndes/Grayson issue. I did not say one time that Lowndes players or Grayson players were innoncent in this….Having played ball a number of years, I know that a lot of sh.. goes on on the field…both legal and illegal!!! One thing I’ve been taught since a kid was to never let others formulate my opinion for me!!!! So my comments last night were based solely on the youtube clip I saw…no I wasn’t at the game nor have I seen a tape…so I can only comment on the clip I SAW!!! Do you guys understand that….heck that aint to hard to process is it?? So those of you who were there or saw it on tv can comment on that…I can’t!! But I can comment on a clip that purposely edited to sway public opinion…only thing about that is JAYBO can see right through that and arrive at his own opinion!!!!! And if anyone does not agree with my take on what I saw, thats fine…you have a right to disagree…..!!!! But you still won’t change MY mind!!!

By Drock08

December 2, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

To CAMDENCAT I agree their is no way this slow small team from N.GA can hang with this super fast big team from S.GA. I am going to call Coach Herring tomorrow and tell him to forfeit the game. Save Camden and Newnan fans gas money and please CANCEL this game. Camden and a blow out something like 56-0.

By Drock08

December 2, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

To CAMDENCAT I agree their is no way this slow small team from N.GA can hang with this super fast big team from S.GA. I am going to call Coach Herring tomorrow and tell him to forfeit the game. Save Camden and Newnan fans gas money and please CANCEL this game. Camden and a blow out something like 56-0.

By NIKEMIKE

December 2, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

BEST TEAM WIN CAIRO OR CARVER IT GOING TO BE CAIRO. SO GET OVER IT LOSSER.

By mistermak

December 2, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

Is it Friday yet? The Final Four is almost upon us!!

Camden is on the way to the dome!!! GO CATS

By GwinnettFan

December 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

BandMomGoneWild

Agree to all the points about Coffee sportsmanship. Their band would constantly strike up songs during PTR snap count, and the one time they were playing during a Coffee possession, they stopped playing as soon as the QB got under center. This seems to be common in Region 1; the Lowndes band also played all the way through PTR possessions. Additionally, the Lions trainers rushed on the field every time a Coffee player was hurt, and one time PTR defense waited off the field until a Coffee player was helped away, even though Coffee was already lined up and ready to go.

GraysonFan2 GPTV (PBS) is broadcasting a AAAAA game, but do not know which of the games they will broadcast.

Emotional Wins Peachtree Ridge won the Region 7-AAAAA Championship against rival North Gwinnett, the first time the Lions had ever beaten the Bulldogs. They also won in the regular season against hated (er, highly disliked :P) Norcross. In addition, PTR beat Harrison, who had stomped on the Lions earlier in the year. If those don’t count as “emotional wins,” then I don’t think any team in the state has one this year. Not to mention this is high school football, every game is emotional because the players are teenagers.

By BODOG

December 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

TO DROCK08 ….YOU STOLE MY BLOG…..I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU ANYMORE THAN NOW……I HAVE CALLED ALL THE ATLANTA TV STATIONS……AND INFORMED THEM OF THE GAME SITUATION……ALSO ME AND MY WIFE WERE PLANNING TO LEAVE THE LAGRANGE GAME, AND TAKE A QUICK DRIVE TO NEWNAN TO SEE 2ND HALF, BUT SINCE THE STADIUM WILL BE CLOSED WHAT’S THE USE I WILL SAY THIS COACH HERRING IS THE REAL DEAL, HE IS SUCH A CLASS ACT….HATE TO SEE HIM RETIRE..

By Todd Holcomb

December 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

I agree w/ BW Mom that Grayson should no be put on the Pedal Stoole until a championship is won.

If you notice, teams that beat Lowndes lose their balance.

In 2005, we put Ware County on the Pedal Stoole. Fell off.

In 2006, Central Gwinnett sat on the Pedal Stoole. Tipped over.

In 2007, it was Harrison. Broke the Pedal Stoole.

Don’t put Grayson on the Pedal Stoole.

By Buy A Ticket

December 2, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

“December 2, 2008 11:01 PM Camden is on the way to the dome!!!

Just be certain you Camden players bring some money to buy a ticket at the dome. Hope you enjoy the Newnan vs Grayson/PT Ridge champtionship game.

By BODOG

December 3, 2008 12:12 AM | Link to this

TO ALL THE SEMI FINAL TEAMS: I HOPE ALL OF YOU PLAY THE BEST GAME YOU POSSIBABLY CAN THIS FRIDAY NITE. IT’S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST….I HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM……I LIVE IN LAGRANGE AND NEWNAN IS JUST ABOUT 30 MIN DRIVE, AND CLOUMBUS MEMORIAL STADIUM IS JUST 50 MINUTES AWAY….I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL 3 GAMES, BUT CAN’T!!!! WHAT A PROBLEM….IT’S GONNA BE GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL AT IT’S BEST…..GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE……I LOVE GEORGIA FOOTBALL………..

By RealisticEP_Fan

December 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Link to this

For Jaybo

Your comment was, One thing I’ve been taught since a kid was to never let others formulate my opinion for me!!!! So my comments last night were based solely on the youtube clip I saw.

Certainly glad you were forming your own opinion and no merely going along with the view of the editor of that youtube.

Jaybo, I enjoy you most of the time, but then you make that type of comment. Come on buddy. Look under the hood, kick the tires, and actually go ‘form’ your own opinion then. I was not at the game, and only watched thru the eye of the media, thus I take things with a certain grain of salt. A sliced up youtube video is how you formed your opinion…….My suggestion….stop thinking completely and just vote how those voices on the phone tell you to vote….same difference right? LOL

By Bear_Backer

December 3, 2008 2:44 AM | Link to this

Those Mighty Griffin Bears have a very rich history of playoff appearances throughout the years. GRIFFIN BEAR TRADITION goes WAY back. Of course I hope Griffin can pull out another victory, but agree it is going to be a hard fought and tough game against the Tucker Tigers who are a really impressive team, with an overall package of speed, coaching and special teams. Good Luck to all remaining schools and GO BEARS !!

By HoyaDawg

December 3, 2008 3:36 AM | Link to this

BiGPAPPI, I did,nt leave Etowah out, they just did’nt fit into the point i was making. Etowah would have made some noise, in a different bracket. Yall just happened to play the only few teams in the state that can pass. Etowah would match up well with Grayson, Lowndes ETC..

By JAYBO

December 3, 2008 3:49 AM | Link to this

Realistic,

WHATEVER MAN….I’m not gonna even go any further with you on this!!!! Glad you didn’t enjoy that particular post!! LOL!!

By Brookwood Mom

December 3, 2008 4:56 AM | Link to this

Thank you Todd!!!

By P Ridge

December 3, 2008 6:02 AM | Link to this

grayson is a mostly run offense. this works out perfect for us!

By SGT CHRIS

December 3, 2008 6:14 AM | Link to this

wow camden EEKS out a win against woodstock ( no offense to woodstock) AT HOME and now they are world beaters. lets see how you fare now that the shoes on the other foot and you have to make whats probably going to be a 6+ hour drive to newnan..yeah i know you make trips to the dome every year blah blah blah but this is a different, MORE HOSTILE atmosphere than the dome..trust me, the ONLY way you will beat newnan is to jump on them early….if you fall behind newnan like you did woodstock, there will be no comeback!!!

By GraysonFan2

December 3, 2008 6:32 AM | Link to this

worked out perfect for Lowndes too, lol.

By grayson ram

December 3, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

haha I hope you believe in your blackout cuz thats the only thing you got goin for you

By CougarDan

December 3, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

First, when I mentioned that Coach Herring was at the top of coaches, that was figuratively, not literally. I’m well aware that he doesn’t have the most wins, but there are very few with 300+. And I wasn’t sure of the exact number of coaching years or state championships elsewhere, but the intent was there. As all who have posted have said, he’s a great coach and man and will be missed. TO BODOG: Drake Stadium will NOT be closed at any point before, during or after the game, so come on up!! There may not be many seats available, so you may have to stand somewhere, but we’re open for business! TO ALL CAMDEN FANS: Come on up! It may not be as warm as the coast weather-wise, but I hope you’ll find our fans and community have warm hearts as we welcome you. TO GRIFFIN AND LAGRANGE FANS: Best of luck as the folks in Newnan are rooting for ya (even if it’s a bit behind closed doors!)! Hey, we’re still rivals ya know. :-)

By CougarFan

December 3, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

CamdenCat: You don’t know the guys on Newnan’s team, so how can you say they don’t play with any heart? If I had to say a team that appears to not have any heart, it would be the Camden Wildcats! I mean, no disrespect to Woodstock, but if you really had heart, how would you let a #4 seed come to YOUR house and almost whoop you? Doesn’t sound like heart to me, it sounds like you took them for a joke and almost got spanked! Just know that WHEN you get down on the Cougars they way you did Woodstock, there will be NO coming back!

By When the loins roar the rams run like b***

December 3, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

To grayson ram you stank azz needs to shut yo mouth cause when our black out kick yall azz we dont wont no s** from yall anymo. all yall do is run the ball wen are players take out your runner im going to be LMAOAYUAZZ. so tata for now…………

By GRAYSON IS COCKY

December 3, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Grayson Ram and Grayson Fan2: yall think yall are just soo good cuz you beat lowndes. yall are just starting to get cocky and annoying. and yeah the blackout will work out because it always works. and no its not the only thing that works out for us our defense,offense,and fans work tooo. all yall have is pemberton who does everything for yall. without him yall would be nothing. just wait till friday when you see he is gonna be stopped!!! ! sorry but the Ridge defense is just toooo powerful for yalllll!!!!!. Grayson is overrated. just make sure you dont come to our side during the game.

By HoyaDawg

December 3, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

time for my prediction on the PR/ Grayson game. Great season Grayson, but all good things must come to an end. 17-10 PR, in a defencive battle. I say tied at half, then the Ridge pulls it out in the end. Newnan over Camden,28-14. I will go on to say PR wins over Newnan at the Dome.Now I must be honest, I may be biased toward PR, because they put us out. If the Ridge wins, that will be 2 years in a row that Harrison beats the state champs. Hey, If we can’t make it to it, at least give us that.

By Homet

December 3, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

JAYBO

I noticed that the GRAYSON / LOWNDES game was on Comcast “ON DEMAND” (Free) last night. I suggest you watch the ENTIRE game that way and not just judge by the You Tube Clip…

I forget which game you went to last week…Did your team win?

Several of us EP fans are going to the Grayson / P-Ridge game this week just for the heck of it…LOL! We know how tough Grayson is this year and wanna see P-Ridge play also.

I just knew you were gonna jump right up on ole Billy Jack…LOL! I was waiting for your reply to that post…LOL!

By MIKEMIKE

December 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

CAIRO GOING TO MAKE TIGER SYRUP WHEN THEY GET THROUGH WITH THEM TIGER.GO CAIRO

By BILLY JACK

December 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

HOMET-GREAT POST AND VIDEO STILL DOES NOT TELL COMPLETE STORY- ENOUGH SAID THE GOOD GUYS WON.JAYBO SOUNDS LIKE HE GOT HIS FEELINGS HURT-THATS TOO BAD-I JUST STATE FACTS THAT ARE UNDISPUTED.P RIDGE-GRAYSON SHOULD BE DEF STRUGGLE AND GOOD GAME.ENJOY THE GAME.

By HoyasRock

December 3, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

In 2007, it was Harrison. Broke the Pedal Stoole.

Geeze no wonder! People stomp on a pedal stool. A pedal stool is a support for the upright piano pedals!

By RAM TOUGH

December 3, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

HEY COCKY -GRAYSON HAS MUCH MORE THAN EAN PEMBERTON.HUGE STABLE OF RUNNING BACKS EACH DIFFERENT,SOME WITH GREAT SPEED,SOME WITH GREAT POWER AND THEY REALLY LOVE TO BLOCK.BIG PHYSICAL OL,RECORD SETTING DEF THAT ALLOWS BASICALLY NOTHING.RAMS SHOULD ALSO BE IN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP PICTURE THRU 2010.COACH CONN WILL JUST RELOAD FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.P RIDGE IS A GOOD TEAM YOU JUST GOT A BAD DRAW WITH THIS GAME.GRAYSON21 P RIDGE7

By HeadEast

December 3, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Sorry so late to the party but I had jury duty this week. 1-AAAAA really got exposed the last two weeks. From talking smack about all four teams in the semis to the reality of NONE! Plus Coffee was humiliated at the the Pea and Lowndes humiliated themselves with their disgraceful behavior. #4 is a punk wannabe gangsta, and stupid (ever punch anyone wearing a helmet?). Hope #24 is playing O at Florida where he is very good, because on D he’s a liability. All I saw was late hitting and piling on then trash talking like he did something and a failure to tackle a 135 lb kid on a very crucial play. Oh, and the coach must have been in shock because he did nothing but stand there like a coward while his punks ran wild. L is for loudmouths, O is for overrated, W is for wannabe gangsters, N is for No discipline, D is for disgraceful, E is for egomaniacs, S is for stupid. Put it all together and it spells L-O-W-N-D-E-S!

By JT

December 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

CJ, here we go again, were you at the game last year with Cairo. On our go ahead score, we did nothing but run the ball down their throats. Cairo actually had more total yards, so lets stop with all of the “Cairo can’t do this” junk. they are both great teams. let them play the game. believe me, you wouldnt want to get hit by Cairo’s defense.

By harold

December 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Looking forward to a great game in buford friday.buford will be favored but fitzgerald may just win this thing.todd how do you see it?

By Granger80

December 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

BearBacker…you mentioned about the Griffin-Newnan rivalry but not a thing about LaGrange-Griffin, an even better rivalry and you should know it!. LG-G in the 70s-90s was as good as it gets in the state and we beat the hell out of each other on a yearly basis and was basically a 50-50 split over the years with Bohannon and Cronic, Guthrie and Pardue years. At LG, we love our rivalry with Newnan but in all honesty, N was great one year and down the next. Bass never won back-to-back region titles while at N but did a great job and was just two games under .500 against us at LG for his career. At LG, we won a lot more titles and championships which got under Bass’ skln but Bohannon and G had plenty of titles, too. Give credit to the great job Herring has done at Newnan in building consistently fine football teams. LG and Griffin nearly every year were very good or great in a few seasons and the battles were legendary. You got us at our place and we got you at the Bears Den, too. I can’t believe that all fans and alums of all three schools in the old black and blue region in LG, N and G don’t support each other. Remember we’re in 3A (LG), 4A (G) and 5A (N) and get behind each other. The 2008 season is terrific for all 3 of our us and we all need to make it happen! I’ve seen every standout LG team since 1979, including ‘83, ‘85, ‘86, ‘89, ‘91, ‘96, ‘00, ‘01, ‘02, ‘03 and ‘04 and 4 state titles and a national title and could have had 4-5 more championships. Our ‘91 and ‘04 LG defenses were as good if not better than anyone in Georgia in any classification over the last 25 years. i don’t care what anyone says and quote me on it: our ‘04 LG team would have beaten 5A Lowndes Co. in an all-classification Super Bowl (if it were allowed to happen) the defense was that good, ask anyone who saw us. Similar to WACO in ‘94, Colquitt Co., a great team at 15-0 would have had their hands full with WACO with Takeo Spikes & Co. Ask our friends at Valdosta, great defense wins championships in Georgia. Griffin has had some super teams and Newnan as well but the ‘08 Cougars are clearly one of the best I’ve ever seen in GHSA. It remains to be seen if the greatest is there as N must win it all to achieve the greatest and respect it will have forever, 15-0 and nothing less. N in ‘08 is light years better than ‘81 and ‘92 teams Bass had, no doubt about it. As a die-hard LG guy, we wish the best to Newnan and Griffin as well and don’t forget, chances like these for all three of us in the same season is indeed rare, make it happen!

By The True Facts

December 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Jaybo went to the game between Toombs and Calhoun in Calhoun Ga. That was long drive from Henry County. He must have a relative/friend on one of the teams.

HeadEast you did come on the back end of the conversation concerning conduct in Lowndes/Grayson game. Your words about the entire Lowndes team were not nice. Remember, you may have 5 or 6 guys acting up but you don’t lump the entire team the way you did. It wouldn’t be hard for me or anyone else to breakout “East Paulding” spelling in a negative way.

By RealisticEP_Fan

December 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

HeadEast, I liked the post

Is it too early to get one of those family divided vehicle plates (Raiders/WolfPack) LOL.

I’m planning on watching the championship game in the dome on the 13th,,,you going?

By Todd Holcomb

December 3, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

buford will be favored but fitzgerald may just win this thing.todd how do you see it?

I see it as you do. Buford favored, but Fitz may just win it. This Buford team is good, of course, but not in the class of the 2007 or 2003 teams. Buford can be had.

By SportsFan31313

December 3, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

To Camden Cat & Drock8,

Lets not get to over confident on this Newnan / Camden County match up this coming Friday. Remember, this is the playoffs. Newnan didn’t get their by clicking the back of their heels wishing for a win.

Newnan is a very good Football team. Camden County is just better then them in my opinion. But as I always said…. “This Is Georgia Football Everybody”!!! On any given Friday and Saturday Bight, the best can be beaten by the Underdog.

Let’s not be like Lowndes County. Camden County hasn’t made it to the Dome yet. One game at a time. Camden County will be going to Newnan Georgia to face Region 4-AAAAA Champions Newnan. You will be entering a Stadium with a capacity crowd, and very loud.

Newnan’d defense is very good, and they hit very hard just like Camden County defense does. The difference is that I don’t think that Newnan has the depth of players that Camden County has, and may have key players playing on both sides of the ball.

With the depth that Camden County has, along with the talent, they have the ability to substitute talent with talent. In other words, one talented player goes out, and another player goes in just as good and fast as the player he subsitituted.

So ,my belief is that this will not be a blowout. This will be a Fight to the finish. I am from Region 3-AAAAA, and I am supporting Camden County but lets not get too over confident. You have to give this Newnan Team some respect.

They seem to handle every team that was thrown against them decisively this season including Region 1-AAAAA Tift County. That was a blow out against a very tough Region 1-AAAAA team.

So I say Go Camden County. Give it all you got. Play with speed, play very physical on both sides of the ball especially the defense, you have to play with your heart, help your teammates out when in time of trouble, and most of all, Play every minute like it is your last minute of the game.

That will be the key to the Georgia Dome, to the State Class AAAAA State Championship game, winning the 2008 undisputed Class AAAAA State Title, and bringing it back to Region 3-AAAAA , to South Georgia, and to Camden County High School.

Go Cats…. The Feline Family here in Region 3-AAAAA is supporting you.

By HeadEast

December 3, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

True Facts - Maybe 5 or 6 bad apple type leaders but I’m very certain more than 5 or 6 of them ran on the field in a very unsportsmanlike manner. More like 50 or 60. We had the exact same result at Grayson the week before, but there was no comparison between the conduct of the players and coach. Realistic - Sorry you’re going over to the ‘dark side’ with the Pack. Not sure about the Dome yet, might have a conflict.

By AndyCamden

December 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Great post sports fan. Pleasantly biased. I wish more people would cheer on their team with out insulting 15-18 year olds like they are all powerful but, behind their computers.
Go Cats, and thanks Newnan for “inviting” us up ha.

By MIKEMIKE

December 3, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

CAIRO THE BEST TEAM IN AAA FOOTBALL.

By The Punisher

December 3, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

sportsfan31313…That it your just a FAN you don’t know the game of football.Newnan has the #1 defence in the state and the #2 offence in AAAAA. Keep talking that crap and come to the game.Watch camden get the h—- beat out of them…. Newnan will bring the pain to camden co. [come one come all] …”THE PUNISHER”…

By RAM TOUGH

December 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

I am trying to let the Grayson-Lowndes controversy die but i have seen a thousand football games and never anything like this.This was not a case of Grayson or Lowndes talking smack which they both were doing.What i am about to say is fact,i was there and any decent person who witnessed this would say exactly this fact#1 late hits started in the first qtr and lasted til game ended.fact#2Lowndes players were doing alot of uncalled for things in the pile and when officials tried to untangle the piles.#fact3 lowned just got thier butts wore out plain and simple.fact#4 three players especially did things i have never seen on a football field pushing officials,screaming at thier own coaches making unspeakable gestures to grayson fans etc.fact#5 3 lowndes players clearly have no regard for thier own coaches the way i witnessed them on the field scream at thier coaches i was standing 15 feet when the police came on to the field.fact#6 in some states #4 #24 #73 for lowndes could have easily gone to jail the way they were conducting thier selves.fact#7coach conn and most coaches in gwinnett would never tolerate such actions they would probably be kicked out of school.I know they are many great people in Valdosta but i have to blame this on the coaching staff from lowndes.

By Vike-King

December 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Brookwood Mom:

Exactly what are you doing awake at 4:56 am when you posted? You can’t be for real … a woman who really loves GA HS football so much she is awake and posting about it in the dark of the night? Or she gets up real early so she will have time to post?

I know … you’re just teasing us male football fanatics. You’re probably some old ugly f_t who works the midnight shift with time on his hands.

By RealisticEP_Fan

December 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

HeadEast: yeah I know the darkside is going to be creeping in to our household too, but did you go to a game up there. I’m going to have to do it slowly, so as not to get to frustrated. Tell you what though, the offense IS interesting and fun to watch.

Conflict: I’ve got 3 that night too, but I intend to put my foot down that night, and if that doesn’t work…..we’ll there is the TV I guess.

By The real Camden Cat

December 3, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Attention bloggers All the Camden posters that are saying that the Newnan game will be a blowout are fake. They just hope that the word on the blogs will get back to the Newnan team…and it will inspire them to play better. Oldest trick in the book. Go cats no matter what!!!

By BILLY JACK

December 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

HEAD EAST-EAST PAULDING ANOTHER VERY CLASSY SCHOOL-I WAS AT THE EPHS-GRAYSON GAME AND EPHS HAS VERY CLASSY KIDS.WE HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY TEAM OTHER THAN LOWNDES.BROOKWOOD AND PARKVIEW OUR BIGGEST RIVALS AND MOST INTENSE RIVALS HAVE GREAT KIDS WHO WERE BROUGHT UP THE RIGHT WAY.P RIDGE OR GRAYSON WILL BE WAITING IN THE DOME FOR CAMDEN-NEWNAN WINNER-THEN THEY WILL SEE GA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GWINNETT STYLE.

By Newnan Dad 08

December 3, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Sportsfan…Good post. However, I disagree with you projected outcome. Also, just a FYI, Newnan has no players that play both ways. They also rotate players in throughout the game as well. One thing Newnan does have is depth. Do we dress out over 100 players, no but there are at least 75 players if not more.

By Friends in Valdosta

December 3, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Granger 80:

First, please learn to use the “Return” and “Tab” keys on your computer so your record-setting one-paragraph post would have been broken up a bit and made a whole lot more readable.

Second, as one of your “friends in Valdosta”, I am pleased to inform you with the facts about Valdosta-Lagrange. Otherwise, your post might mislead others (as it misled you) into believing there was any rivalry here at all, and if so, that Lagrange had dominated.

Valdosta-Lagrange played 16 games from 1952 to 1991. Overall record is in favor of Valdosta 11-5-0. The series began with two Valdosta wins in state championship games of 1952 and 1953 by scores of 30-0 and 48-7. Then the two played each year in the regular-season from 1958-1967 when they were both members of region 1. During that time Valdosta won six, Lagrange 4.

Valdosta won two R-S games in ‘86 and ‘87 by scores of 16-6 and 40-7. Valdosta won a state playoff game 24-13 at Lagrange in ‘89 on its way to a state title, and Lagrange won a state playoff game in 1991 6-0 on its way to a state title that year.

That narrow win by Lagrange might have stopped a 4-year state title streak by Valdosta, as it won in ‘89, ‘90 and ‘92.

Also, your otherwise enthusiastic and fact-filled post was dulled considerably when you conjectured that Lagrange’s (state title, I presume) team in ‘04 would have beaten Lowndes’ state title team in ‘04. And Rocky Balboa would have beaten Evander Holyfied, too, right? Please, don’t make comparisons that are unprovable.

And yes, before anyone says it, I’ll say it for you: Right now Valdosta is a team of the past, not the present. At least, if that’s all we have, give us an accurate picture of the past.

By Brooks01

December 3, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

To all of you bickering and fighting about the Lowndes-Grayson game, how are you any better than the players. What’s done is done, there’s no going back to fix it. Lowndes Coach, Randy Mc Pherson has publicly apologized via Valdosta Daily Times, for his teams actions.

With that said, lets just move on and enjoy the rest of the playoffs as some great and deserving teams will be matched up against one another.

Go Brooks!!!

By hurricanecamden

December 3, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

The real Camden Cat I knew that was not you. You have to much class for that. I think that Newnan knows that camden is better than that. We respect all players and teams. And for those fake camden folk. Shame on you! Go Wildcats!!!!!

By topper

December 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

i will be glad when friday gets here! Let the talking end and let the boys settle all this on the field!

By Brookwood Mom

December 3, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Vike-King!! Hey I resent that comment!! FYI I do have a job! I get up at 4:30 every morning to get beautfied (And yes that IS a word!) I have to be at work at 6:30 A.M. I always log on first thing in the morning to check emails, weather, etc. etc. etc. Anybody else want to share thier morning routine with me?? I always check the AJC, Gwinnett Daily Post and WSBTV! Yes, I love the news!!! I am a real women by the way! Come to the Grayson P’Ridge game to say “Hey” to me!!

By Sanity Rules

December 3, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

To Granger80, you know your Newnan,Griffin,and LaGrange history. It’s a shame our old region isn’t together. We were very much underrated. Great smash mouth football that we sorely miss. Hope to see all three teams in the dome next weekend.

By JAYBO

December 3, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

The true facts, Homet,

Yes, I did attend the calhoun/toombs co game on last friday…my wife is from calhoun so we were in town for the holiday. Calhoun has a really good team and the crowd was large and electric!!! Toombs had some big ole boys…been awhile since I’ve seen a team with that kind of size….but Calhoun was quicker on offense and defense!! #21 for Calhoun—a junior(plays receiver and db) stands about 6’2-6’3 and is a beast…can catch and has great speed…is a difinite D-1 prospect!! The game between Calhoun and Brooks co. I think, will be the third best game in the state behind Newnan/Camden and Cairo/Carver!!

By Band Mom Gone Wild

December 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Brookwood Mom, I’ll be there dragging the big blue first aid duffle behind me, hanging out with “my kids”, the PR Band. Stop by and say “Hi!”

By Granger80

December 3, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

Dear “Friends in Valdosta”…first of all, chill out and I didn’t say a thing about LaGrange dominating Valdosta at all — no, we never did and no one else in Georgia did, for that matter. We won a few times.

Let me smooth over the uneasiness for some reason you feel by saying once again….defense wins championships in Georgia, and many of V’s state titles were great defensive teams, the same kind of trait we’ve used for years at LaGrange in claiming numerous state championships as well. I have not and will not compare our 11 titles back to the ‘21 season and the 23 for V since 1940.

Ask anyone who knows our program and I can assure you, there isn’t a LG fan or alum who knows our program better than I do. Any LG team that even competed or won state titles through the years were great defensive football teams first; we will always hang our hat on great “D” at LG first and top priority, again, very similar to what V has done for decades.

You need to sit down and relax brother, and we, ie: LG-V did have a rivalry, indeed, but most times Bazemore and Hyder-led V teams won as you so clearly indicated. I typed my post in about 10-15 minutes but the post was either fact and/or opinion and last time I checked, this is America and we can say what we want without gettting our underwear twisted over it.

We got blasted by V in ‘52 and ‘53 and I think the series is 11-5 for V over LG, without going to check on it.

In 1986, LG was No. 1 in the preseason poll and No. 4 in the USA Today poll — PRESEASON — relax! We went to your place in the opener and had a lot more yardage than ya’ll did but turnovers did us in, a fact. Certainly, you can’t beat a great V team with turnovers and we didn’t, shazam. We lost to Clarke Central in the semis and V hammered CC, 28-0, mute point. We were not a good football team in 1987 and got hammered at home by ya’ll.

In 1989, LG trailed V 12-0, LG retook the lead at 13-12 in the second half, V gained the lead again at 18-13 in the sloppy mud and LG had a chance in the last minute of the game to win if - “IF” they scored a TD and we were driving… Of course, LG didn’t win…V’s LB blindsided Hudson, a mid-air fumble ensued and was returned around 40 yards for a TD on the game’s final play for a deceiving 24-13 V win.

FACT: In ‘91 LG won in a classic 6-0 game that yes, could have gone either way, just like in ‘89 when LG could have won but didn’t, V could have won in ‘91 and didn’t as LG was a little bit better and have never said a thing about “domination” at all.

The late Nick Hyder was a class act and handled himself very well at the end of the ‘91 game, a true gentleman and gave us credit for having a great football team as well. It was two great teams in that ‘91 game, no one disputes that.

In fact, I’m good friends with Valdosta’s football historian as I have done the same for my school at LaGrange as well. I have the utmost respect for V’s tradition, hand’s down, the best not only in Georgia but the nation but these are different times. No one will ever match the tradition and history of Valdosta, period, ‘nuff said and I didn’t in any way, shape or form refer that LG “dominated” Valdosta, What is this, the O.J. Simpson trial? Laugh and lighten up, it’s high school football….

Next to Valdosta, LaGrange’s tradition is as good or better than anyone’s but at LG we don’t live in the past, either and sorry that you feel the need to take offense at a statement in which I never made. Respect the past, the great traditions but live in the present as we try our best at LG and always have. Don’t make up excuses but tip your hat to the other team and wish them good luck as we do at LG and know V did and still does as well.

LG in ‘04 vs. Lowndes Co. in ‘04, well, everyone has an opinion, much like WACO vs. Colquitt Co. in ‘94, just a fantasy football Super Bowl matchup which will never take place.

From 1978-99, LaGrange played up in classification against schools which were 2-3 times our size and certainly handled ourselves very well.

Finally, as you well know, Georgia high school football is passion at its best and we all love our teams, so let’s enjoy the great game it is and respect other people’s opinions without getting offended or feel the need to correct someone.

By Brookwood Mom

December 3, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Hey Band Mom gone Wild! Good luck to you guys Friday night, I will definitely have to come by and say hello!!

By Cougarfan

December 4, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Granger80, Help me out with something if you can. Lagrange had an unbelievable running back in the early ‘90’s. I know this name isn’t correct but Cody Carter or maybe something close to that??? Ring any bells? This was obviously when Bass was still at Newnan and I think it was the senior year for Corey Bridges and Derrick Stegall. Just couldn’t remember the name and wanted to know what he did after high school.

By Granger80

December 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Cougarfan….The running back was Cote Carter but he played for then Troup coaches Jimmy Holley and Rob Ridings. Carter was indeed a great back but also benefited from a standout OL with Jay Floyd and others and a few years earlier, Stephen Herndon, Paul Snellings, Reggie Stargill, later UGA standouts…Carter’s career and school-best game came against Morrow in 1995 with 345 yards rushing and a pair of TDs in an OT win…..

PS — I saw your ‘81 and ‘92 Newnan teams first hand and they were outstanding clubs but I’ve also seen up close and personal the ‘08 team and Herring’s team this season, is light years better than what Max had those two seasons.

I was at the N-Tift Co. public execution a few weeks back and to turn a very close 7-0 game (should have been tied on that long TD pass just tipped away) into a 35-point second-half explosion and 42-0 win was a spectacle to behold. N is the real deal, folks, wake up and smell the Folgers….

Ogletree (39), the junior FS is a beast and just a junior, wow!…He reminds me a lot of USC’s All-American FS Taylor Mays at 6-3 235 and runs a 4.4 40 time. Not a bad comparison at all as Mays will be an NFL All-Pro in a couple of years, same may be the case for Ogletree in the next decade as well, he’s got all the physical skills to play in the NFL…

I also like your Beno kid, he’s like what you’d see on the old Mutual of Omaha’s “Wild Kingdom” TV show with Marlon Perkins and Jim in the wilds in battling the one-ton water buffalo and that’s all in respect and admiration for the young man, he’s a beast and a perfect OL body!… Beno reminds me a lot of a bigger Mike Cheever in the late 80s and early 90s, who we always had to double team at LG. I expect Beno after GT will be in the NFL as well someday.

We need to support each other — LaGrange, Newnan and Griffin folks in the semis…Just a shame that we can’t get to all the games!

By Sportsfan31313

December 4, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

By The Punisher sportsfan31313…That it your just a FAN you don’t know the game of football.Newnan has the #1 defence in the state and the #2 offence in AAAAA. Keep talking that crap and come to the game.Watch camden get the h—- beat out of them…. Newnan will bring the pain to camden co. [come one come all] …”THE PUNISHER”…

Well Well Well The Punisher,

I don’t know about football. Well Sir, I know enough to say that Newnan has a good team. We all respect them totally. They have a great defense as well. I have mentioned through out the entire blog when you weren’t around.

As a matter of fact, where you when Newnan was winning these games? No one here on this blog never heard of you. It sounds like to me that you are a band wagon fan, or a crab fan.

You seem to float with the tide. Whenever the tide is up or the publicity is up in your favor, you are around. I bet if Newnan was not as good as they are, you would have been on here.

For you to say that I don’t know anything about football is indicative of your intellect. You don’t know me nor do you appear to know anything about football either. Nevertheless, I should not have responded to your worthless comments.

Your written communication sounds like the age of a adolescent, and as the ole saying goes: “Children are to be seen and not heard”.

By Cougarfan

December 5, 2008 6:40 AM | Link to this

It’s friday………do you know where your tickets are??? Anyone know what time it is????? It’s CUGA TIME!!!!!!!!! May the best team win, and we intend to!!!!!

By Football Fan

December 6, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

what happened Grayson? In 2008, we put Grayson on the Pedal Stoole. Fell off

By Lowndes 1981

December 6, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

We all know that the Lowndes kids did not act like adults during the final moments of the game with Grayson, but they are children. That is no excuse, they will learn from it. There is also no excuse for the way that some folks on this blog talk and belittle children for their actions. As for some of the comments about McPhearson and his reactions or lack their of at the game, those were uncalled for also. Coach McPhearson does not show his emotions like many of the other coaches that I have seen throught the years. He is a very kind man and the kids truly respect. The youtube video dod not show all that was going on at the game by both teams. Neadless to say sho ever made it was bias.
The commment on this blog about Lowndes being a bunch of thugs, well you are being a bit raciest dont you think. Lownded is a mostly white school dure to demographics. Valdosta High is mostly black that also being due to demographics. I know that the people that made the comments really have more class than they showed or at least I hope that they do. In the end Lowndes lost and they will learn from it. I just hope that the kids from Grayson also learn from their loss as well.

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