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Woodstock still the longshot - 333-1 to be exact

What are the chances that your team will win state? Got that for you right here.

I’m expecting heavy action on those 10-to-1 odds for Newnan. Here’s a deal for you: Grayson at 15-to-1! But don’t be a sucker.

These were calculated by my estimation of each team’s chances of advancing each round, then doing the math.

The longest odds belong to Woodstock at 333-to-1. But the good news is that Mike O’Brien is 3-to-1 to be named coach of the year in Class AAAAA.

While we’re at it, who are your choices for coach of the year in each class? If I were picking today, I’d go with …

AAAAA - Mike O’Brien (Woodstock)

AAAA - Robert Davis (Westside)

AAA - Rick Hurst (Eastside)

AA - Maurice Freeman (Brooks County)

A - Miller County (Frank Killingsworth)

But the coach who wins state, unless he comes from Lowndes, Buford or ECI, will be hard to ignore in three weeks.

Now to what you’ve been waiting for.

THE ODDS

Woodstock 333-1

Mount Zion 275-1

Wilkinson County 125-1

Toombs County 55-1

North Gwinnett 50-1

Coffee 35-1

Tucker 30-1

Rome 25-1

Bremen 24-1

Lovett 22-1

Eastside 20-1

Pepperell 20-1

Wesleyan 20-1

Miller County 20-1

SW DeKalb 19-1

Grayson 15-1

Dublin 14-1

Flowery Branch 13-1

Griffin 12-1

Statesboro 12-1

Gainesville 11-1

LaGrange 11-1

Dunwoody 11-1

Brooks County 11-1

Newnan 10-1

Calhoun 9-1

Wilcox County 8.5-1

Lincoln 8.5-1

Peachtree Ridge 8-1

Turner County 7-1

Carver 4.5-1

Cairo 4-1

Baldwin 3.5-1

Camden County 3-1

Fitzgerald 2.5-1

Marist 2-1

Westside 1.4-1

Lowndes 1.2-1

Buford 1-1

ECI 1-1

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By robert

November 23, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Todd, What is the rule for stadium size in the semi-finals in 5A. If Camden plays Newnan in the semi-finals they are both #1 Seeds so would they flip a coin and if one does not have a big enough stadium what happens. Camden has a big enough seating stadium, but i am not sure about Newnan, and would they even do a coin flip if one school does not meet the seating requirements.

By lovefball

November 23, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Go Marist!!!! This weeks just as important as the rest, remember that.

By JAYBO

November 23, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

My picks for coach of the year:

AAAAA-Randy Mcpherson(Lowndes)

AAAA-The coach from Chapel Hill,Douglasville

AAA-Jesse Hicks(Baldwin)

AA-Maurice Freeman(Brooks Co)

A-The coach from ECI

By Michael Buchanan

November 23, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Baldwin getting better odds than Cairo? Are you basing this on head to head, remaining opponents, possible opponents, or what? I’m curious on how you came to these odds.

By Sanity Rules

November 23, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

Todd ,your odds make no sense . You have Lowndes as your favorite in AAAAA , which I have no problem with but Peachtree Ridge is favored ahead of Newnan. I don’t get that. Come on down and see us play.

By Stat Man

November 23, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

Robert: All playoff info including the answers to your questions can be found at www.ghsa.net/football then keep scrolling or clicking until you see State Playoffs. It’s very detailed.

By keith jump

November 23, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

i agree with you except Jessie Hicks is the #1 coach in AAA, if not the state of Georgia. Just spend one day with the man and watch he and his coaches as they interact with each other and their players. It is a special bond built that any community or school system would be proud to have out front as its leader and spokes person. Go BALDWIN BRAVES and it STAFF and PLAYERS and FANS>>>>>>

By Chris Whitfield

November 23, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

JAYBO, Chapel Hill is in AAAAA. But, yes, coach Parker would be my choice for coach of the year.

By GraysonFan2

November 23, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

Well maybe we can get as close as Parkview did in 2004. Go Rams!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be fun no matter what the outcome!

By TrojanDude

November 23, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

I’m infatuated with the Azio girl.

By Todd Holcomb

November 23, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

What is the rule for stadium size in the semi-finals in 5A.

For Class AAAAA, it’s a minimum of 6,000 for the SF. But this year, schools may use portable seating to get to 6,000. Before, it was permanent seating.

So I think Newnan can get to 6,000 with portable seating. If not, Newnan can move the game to a suitable stadium, such as Tara in Clayton County.

Baldwin getting better odds than Cairo? Are you basing this on head to head, remaining opponents, possible opponents, or what? I’m curious on how you came to these odds.

It’s the draw. I think Cairo, Carver & Baldwin are a notch above the rest. Baldwin needs to beat only one of those. Cairo & Carver must beat the other two.

If you’re asking me which is the better team, I’d still guess Cairo.

I agree with you except Jessie Hicks is the #1 coach in AAA

If Baldwin makes the final, then Hicks probably moves ahead of Hurst at Eastside. But I was making my choices based on how it looks right now. Hurst has gone from 0-10 to 11-1 in three seasons. Baldwin was supposed to be good this season. I’d just want to make sure Baldwin reaches its potential, which is at least a runner-up finish this season.

Todd , your odds make no sense . You have Lowndes as your favorite in AAAAA , which I have no problem with but Peachtree Ridge is favored ahead of Newnan. I don’t get that. Come on down and see us play.

I used a mathematical model in which I multiplied each team’s chances (in my opinion) of winning each round (i.e., if your chances of winning each round is 50 percent, then .50 x .50 x .50 = .125, or 8-to-1 odds). If you change those percentages even slightly in any round, those odds can shift from 8-1 to 10-1. In other words, there’s no appreciable difference between 10-1 and 8-1 odds. If I spent another 20 minutes thinking about it, Newnan’s odds probably would be 8-1 instead of P-Ridge’s.

But there are two main reasons for P-Ridge getting the better odds on the first run:

1 - P-Ridge has a better shot in the QF, as I think North Gwinnett is much better than Coffee.

2 – P-Ridge has a better shot in the finals. Why? Because if Peachtree Ridge gets to the final, it would be on the heels of beating Lowndes. If that happens, P-Ridge becomes 50/50 with anybody it plays in the final. The Lions would be the hottest team in the state. If Newnan gets to the final, they’d also be on fire, but they’d still have to play Lowndes.

If none of that makes sense, refer back to the final two sentences of my first paragraph in this answer.

Well maybe we can get as close as Parkview did in 2004. Go Rams!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be fun no matter what the outcome!

That’s the last time Lowndes has played a road game (non-Georgia Dome) in the playoffs.

By GraysonFan2

November 23, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Ok LOWNDES folks

If you click the video on the right side of this page (in the spotlight) you will see what the visitor side looks like. The home side is twice as tall and as long. So its not to bad. Now as you are looking, you will see how many EP fans actually came to the game. You tell me how many you think. See why its hard to imagine 5000 coming from that far away when only 150-200 came from EP. You all better get your tickets fast because they want send you more then they have for your side.

http://www.ourvarsity.com/school-profile.php?School_ID=26

By BjohnDawg

November 23, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

Lets finally put away the theory that Camden County cannot play with other teams in the state because their Region opponents are not as strong as other Regions. Camden County beat NS Warner Robins. In the past they have beaten Valdosta, Newnan, Stephenson, and an host of others. ADD NS Warner Robins to the list.

I still think Lowndes is the team to beat in 5-A, but the Camden Program is one of the best in the state.

Dont be surprised if you see a Lowndes vs. Camden matchup in the Dome for it all.

By Drock08

November 23, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Boy do I wish in can get Newnan and 10-1. I would quit the hospital and retire early.

By D-W00D Student

November 23, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

I’ll take 11-1 odds.

By JAYBO

November 23, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Chris,

That’s right…Coffee(region 1-AAAAA) cid beat Chapel Hill….my bad I slipped, thanks man….LOL!! Let me change my AAAAA coach from Mcpherson to Parker(Chapel hill). OK my AAAA coach is Robert Davis(Westside).

By Frank

November 23, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Cairo will take the state title this year. Cairo beat themselves in the title game last season. I hope Balwins ready. Carver want make it pass the next round. My opinion guys.

By Homet

November 23, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

GraysonFan2

Don’t know why you are so concerned with how many folks EAST brought to the game but just to clarify it a bit the visitors side at the start of the game WAS less than half full. Our band and cheerleader buses got caught in a BAD traffic jam and as you neglect to mention did not even arrive till midway in the 2nd quarter!!!

The totally empty section on the right is WHERE THE BAND SITS…Many of the EAST fans also arrived late but by the middle part of the 1st quarter / start of 2nd quarter we had a good crowd (although much less than normal) we still had well over 700 by the 2nd quarter.

If I was you I would be MORE concerned with the GRAYSON side which for a HOME playoff 2nd round game was LESS than half FULL the entire night!!!

Lowndes, from what I have been told is going to not only RUN totally OVER GRAYSON on the field they sound like they are bringing 2 to 3 times the fans to YOUR HOME FIELD!!!

By the way we are making the trek also to get some more of that A.J. Tasty Pig Bar B Q and see just how good this Lowndes team really is.

By Brookwood Mom

November 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

Hey GraysonFan2. What’s up buddy?? I don’t know why LOWNDES is worried about the seating over at Grayson, I don’t think there will be as many LOWNDES fans as there will be GRAYSON fans. Come on LOWNDES prove me wrong!! Dang it I wish I could be at the at game!! Doggone Thanksgiving just had to come during ROUND THREE!

Best of luck to both teams! Come on GRAYSON prove to me that you really are all that and a bag of chips!! I still think it will be LOWNDES and CAMDEN in the DOME!!

By Sanity Rules

November 23, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me why Bremen is hosting their game against ECI ?

By Brookwood Mom

November 23, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd or Sweetpea, do ya’ll know which team will be televised on CCS Friday night??

By Homet

November 23, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

GraysonFan2

Don’t even TRY that TRASH-TALKING smack…Grayson scored 3 points the ENTIRE 2nd half and when EAST scored that 1st TD early in the 1st Quarter you could hear a pin drop on GRAYSONS side.

EAST stopped you cold on the next series and only the penalty that gave the ball back to Grayson saved you from being down 14 - 0. Had that happened we would have had an entirely different game.

Instead Grayson scored and went for the 2 going up 8 - 7. The game was 14-7 at halftime, still ANYBODYS game. Two VERY GOOD defenses played each other to a virtual standoff in the 2nd half. Trust me when I tell you that beating EAST by only scoring 17 points…you have NO IDEA how LUCKY YOU ARE!!!

Like I said earlier…good game, strong defensive performance by BOTH teams BUT read SEVERAL of my earlier post when I said neither EAST nor GRAYSON have ANY chance of beating Lowndes…they are playing on a different level than other teams…

Enjoy this week because this time next week you will be waiting for next year like us.

By hurricanecamden

November 23, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

Good Luck to everyone on this Friday. Go Wildcats!

By Brookwood Mom

November 23, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

You know I was just thinking! How cool would it be for North Gwinnett and Grayson to fight it out for State Championship?? Has two Gwinnett teams ever played against each other in the State Championship? (now I have to remind you that I have only been into football for three years)

By Yo

November 23, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

I’ll be waiting in line to get my 4 tickets tomorrow. So with Lowndes band and me we are now up to 364 plus chaperones.

By Todd Holcomb

November 23, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me why Bremen is hosting their game against ECI ?

Coin toss.

By Reeze

November 23, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

What is Graysons seating capacity?

By inthatrenches

November 23, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

Todd is it possible that the final four could be in the Dome one week and then the Championships the next? I do not know if that would be possible but it would make for some good football and neutral fields there is no question about seating in Round 4 then?? your opinion?

By CHHS Panther Fan

November 23, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

I would like to thanks the Chapel Hill Panthers for a great season, hold your heads up high. No one expected this out of you. Douglas County and the state of Georgia will never forget this season. 2009 is just aroud the corner. Look out Georgia.

By inthatrenches

November 23, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Hey Sanity your name sounds like the radio show guy?? Hmmmmmmmm!! Hannity Rules???? the secret is out?? Ha Ha!

By its on

November 23, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

hurricanecamden, what’s up? this is your homeboy; Rose brother

By GraysonFan2

November 23, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Homet,

No one said the Grayson side was full, and no one here really cares how many people came out in the cold. Im only trying to explain to the Lowndes folks, that we don’t have the seating for them to bring 5000 people here. I was worried about the 2000 that YOU ALL said were coming last Friday, and simply stating every one here seems to over estimate how many people will really travel. I posted the film because that was a perfect way to show the visitor side since it was filmed from the home side. Have you been reading the concerns and requests about our filed since Friday night?

Of course the Grayson side was silent when EP scored first, that was a first for the season, were we suppose to cheer for you? And wasnt it suppose to be a close game? I was expecting it to be, and it was. You guys were everything you said you were, just couldnt handle our defense as well as you had to.

Reeze,

6000

By Viking in North GA

November 23, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Any idea why Lowndes isn’t hosting the game Friday? They’ve won how many straight games and playoff games and No. 1 all season. Seems like that would only make sense.

Oh come on!! It wasn’t enough to get the Championship Game in the “Neutral” field of the Dome. But now we want to make South Georgia fans travel to Atlanta two weekends in a row if their team is lucky enough to win?

By GraysonFan2

November 23, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this

Homet, i agree, our offense will lose this game if its lost. Grayson vs Camden recap:

Our QB threw the ball into their defenses hands twice and was ran back for a TD. Our defense was responsible for one TD. The score was not a whipping by any means either. Have several people call me tonight that live in distant counties wanting me to purchase their tickets tomorrow, Im sure there will end up being a seating problem. I know I have four reserved in the booster section, dont know were the rest of the family will sit, but they will all be there to see both teams

By GraysonFan2

November 23, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

Brookwoodmom,

How could you miss it? Just stay home and have the house to your self, you can eat with us!

By GraysonFan2

November 23, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

Homet,

I don’t think luck has anything to do with football unless your referring to a coin toss.

By 99trojan

November 23, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

I would say that Ken Eldridge at Coffee should be considered as COY in AAAAA, for what he has been able to accomplish in his first year as a Head Coach. A lot of people had doubts due to lack of experience, but a third round birth in the state playoffs for the frist time in forever is Remarkable in my Opinion.

Todd, How does Coffee match up with P’Ridge?

By Reeze

November 23, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

A different location should be considered for this Lowndes/Grayson game no way 6000 is enough seating even if temps are in place for Lowndes fans ,Grayson fans and unbias spectators who”ll probably come from different parts of the state for this one…Lowndes may bring 6000 themselves…And it will only get worst in the semi’s……The GHSA needs to reconsider their decision and move the semi’s back to the dome ,No way these small stadiums will handle the crowds.

By BODOG

November 23, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

JESSE HICKS OF BALDWIN HAS DONE A FINE JOB,BUT SO HAS CARIO COACH, EASTSIDE COACH, GAINESVILLLE COACH, LAGRANGE COACH PARDUE, CARVER COACH, FLOWERY BRANCH COACH, AND DUNWOODY COACH….TODD, ITS HARD JUST TO PICK ONE OUT OF THESE …….. I KNOW ONE OF THESE COACH’S TEAM HAS LOST ALL-STATE QUARTERBACK, ALLSTATE SAFETY, AND OTHERS, PLUS I KNOW ONE COACH THAT HAS LOST AN ALL-AMERICAN LINEBACKER FOR BALANCE OF PLAY-OFFS,AND OTHE ON AND OFF FIELD PROBLEMS…YOU GOT TO WEIGH EVERYTHING, AND HOW THEY GOT HERE , AND ADVERSITY.ETC………

By Leavy

November 24, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this

Reeze I Agree. A 6000 seat stadiums for a AAAAA playoff game is a JOKE. I guess teams from the Atlanta and North Ga area are happy to see 3 or 4 thousands people at a game. I’ve been to a couple of Clinch County games (a single A school) and they have over 3000 there for a game. 6000 seat should be min. for AAA playoff not AAAAA.

By mistermak

November 24, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

inthetrenches this is the first year in a while that the semi’s are not in the dome. I am not sure why they went to the finals in the dome. It seemed to me like they made more money with the semi’s up there.

How bout them wildcats??!! Hey Woodstock come on down and get some of this!!

By mistermak

November 24, 2008 12:53 AM | Link to this

I cant help but think that Lowndes is going to put a hurtin on Grayson. I feel like Grayson is over rated. I am pulling for North Gwinnet to beat Newnan only because I know we would lose the coin flip for home field next round! somehow the south ga teams always lose that coin flip! I don’t want to have to travel to Atlanta 2 weeks in a row!!

By BODOG

November 24, 2008 12:54 AM | Link to this

TODD, YOUR ODDS MAKE FOR GOOD DISCUSSON, BUT REMINDS MEW OF A SLOGAN USED IN ‘08 PRES. CAMPAIN……..” JUST WORDS, JUST SPEECHES……HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT YOU ODDS? GOOD CHOICE ON CAMDEN CTY, BUTWHY NOT SO GOO ON MY NEWNAN TEAM ?

By dekalb football

November 24, 2008 1:18 AM | Link to this

Todd

What are your thoughts on Westside vs TUCKER everyone seems to think we have no chance. We play in a very tough region proog the remaining bracket in 4AAAA. Westside is good but as not been tested yet.

By Drago

November 24, 2008 1:30 AM | Link to this

Todd, Your rationale for the 10-1 for Newnan seem reasonable. But, only because I took statistics.

By NSeagle78

November 24, 2008 1:45 AM | Link to this

Camden County and Coffee are mirror images of each other. I think Lowndes beat Coffee but Camden might be a hair better than Coffee. Camden County don’t be so quick to go pulling on Lowndes cape.

By hurricanecamden

November 24, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this

Its On How are you? I’m still smelling the roses from Friday. Woodstock have a youtube video with their rap song on it called we from that wood, ho! Check it out. Their is also some footage on youtube when they got beat by Kell on there. I will see you on the 50 yard line on Friday.

By Homet

November 24, 2008 7:29 AM | Link to this

GraysonFan2

I don’t think luck has anything to do with football unless your referring to a coin toss.

I agree but was just saying again that your DEFENSE played a GREAT game…not too many teams beat EAST by only scoring 17 points!!!

From the post it sounds like Lowndes is bringing half the county to Grayson friday…LOL!

By LowndesCountyFan

November 24, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this

I am in total agreement with the comments made that GHSA screwed up by not having the Semi-Finals in the dome. Lets review the facts 10 games over 2 nights (Friday-Saturday) 20 teams, fans from 20 Schools, the bands,Televised games across the state. Now has been reduced to five games televised with reduced fan envovlement reduced economic impact for the city of Atlanta. i think this decision has roundly been critized at all levels ecept for the Grand Poobahs that have a stranglehold on High School Football in the state of Georgia

By Brookwood Mom

November 24, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

GraysonFan2!! I know what was I thinking??? I REALLY don’t want to miss this game. I might have to come and eat dinner with ya and stay here after all!

I just love all the excitement on the blog. I really do hope there is a HUGE turnout. Brookwood Dad’s best friend works out of town a lot and he is here this weekend. I told him to go cheer on GRAYSON for us. Maybe he will be in the midst of that excitement. I told him to get there early because it going to be crazy out there. GOOD LUCK AND GO RAMS!!!!!

By GHS Student

November 24, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this

I disagree with how the GHSA scheduled the playoffs this year. First of all 3rd round… Thanksgiving??? The finals should NOT be in the dome. The south Ga teams are at a huge disadvantage and it takes away the highschool atmosphere. But come on Lowndes fans as much as you want your town to be like a west texas friday night… its not. There wont be signs saying gone to the game. I know it sounds cool to say o ya were bringing 6,000 up there and were takin over grayson. How is that possible when your home stands only hold 5,000. You think there wont be many people on our home sides… keep thinkin that because its not true I have talked to many people who are coming to support gwinnett county. Even our biggest rival South Gwinnett is bringin there student section to come help us out. And to the EP fans if you read by round 2 blog posts grayson fans had nothing but respect for you guys. It was not luck that we won we were the better team by far. We shut you down after the first possesion. Im not saying we grayson fans on this blog but there were alot of people here who didnt want to get out in the cold to see an easy game. Nobody really respected yall but rest assure the people who came did. Regardless we won so why arent you pulling for the team that put you out of the playoffs

By david

November 24, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

HEY BODOG,

YOU ALSO SHOULD CONSIDER THAT ONE OF THESE TEAMS IS PLAYING WITH A FRESHMAN QUARTERBACK…..

By SouthGARules

November 24, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Brookwood Mom: Parkview & Brookwood played for the state title in 2002. Parkview won 28-7, their last state title.

By LowndesCountyFan

November 24, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Ghs Student for your information Lowndes Home side seats 7,000 + the entire stadium can seat 15,000 with a seperate seating area in the south end zone for the band. It’s called the Concrete Palace if you could get Your mopm to drive you out of town you might get to see what a real stadium looks like

By Homet

November 24, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

GHS Student

DON’T misread my post!!! Go Back and REREAD IT!!! The comment I said was:

Trust me when I tell you that beating EAST by only scoring 17 points…you have NO IDEA how LUCKY YOU ARE!!!

I had NOTHING but compliments for your Defense as well as the EAST “D”, only 3 points being scored in the 2nd half says something about both teams!!!

My “POINT” was that EAST as a rule scores a LOT more than 17 points and SHOULD have been able to win a game with that low a points total. Again…HATS OFF to the Grayson “D”!!!!

The “BETTER TEAM BY FAR”…Not at all, I think Grayson & EAST matched up GREAT!!! They were very evenly balanced, had the GRAYSON running game broke 3 or 4 of the runs EAST barely stopped them on the score could have been 24 or 31 for GRAYSON and had the EAST offense not dropped so many passes EAST could have had 21 or 28…again last friday it was ALL ABOUT DEFENSE on BOTH sides!!!!

BUT as I have been saying for the last few weeks I don’t think it matters… Lowndes is playing at a different level, they are bigger and faster than anybody I have seen this year so I really don’t see Grayson even staying in the game (I also said the same thing about EAST before you jump on me)!!!!

Congrats again on advancing to the 3rd round and we are bringing a group to watch BOTH teams play. Say what’s the word on additional seating being brought in?

By Rev. Jimmy Jack Bourbon

November 24, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

A “shout out” to “Big Dadddy,” Newnan High’s greatest fan and to the whole Cuga team! Go Cugas!

By hurricanecamden

November 24, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Newnan fans, sorry to hear about the tragedy that happened in your community on last night. Good luck on friday.

By HoyasRock

November 24, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

IMO, Woodstock may be better than Peachtree Rridge. Sure Peachtree Ridge has a better defense, but Woodstock has a better offense. Are these odds based on relative performance between other teams without regard to the health or possible improvement of the team?

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Going to get my tickets this morning!!!!! hope its not sold out!

By Brookwood Mom

November 24, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

SouthGaRules: Thanks sugar for the information!! Now I am up to date.

By Todd Holcomb

November 24, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Todd is it possible that the final four could be in the Dome one week and then the Championships the next? I do not know if that would be possible but it would make for some good football and neutral fields there is no question about seating in Round 4 then?? your opinion?

South Georgia would break off into its own state before allowing that to happen. I liked the semis at the Dome, but it’s teams from the lower end of the state don’t want to travel this far twice. It also takes the game out of the communities that make high school football what it is.

I disagree with how the GHSA scheduled the playoffs this year. First of all 3rd round… Thanksgiving???

It’s been that way for 60 years. The GHSA has never skipped Thanksgiving week. Does anyone here have something better to do on the Friday after Thanksgiving?

* The finals should NOT be in the dome. The south Ga teams are at a huge disadvantage*

Every South Georgia school voted to have the finals in the Dome.

GHSA screwed up by not having the Semi-Finals in the dome. Lets review the facts 10 games over 2 nights (Friday-Saturday) 20 teams, fans from 20 Schools, the bands,Televised games across the state. Now has been reduced to five games televised with reduced fan envovlement reduced economic impact for the city of Atlanta. i think this decision has roundly been critized at all levels ecept for the Grand Poobahs that have a stranglehold on High School Football in the state of Georgia

Lowndes principal voted to move the finals to the Dome.

What are your thoughts on Westside vs TUCKER everyone seems to think we have no chance. We play in a very tough region proog the remaining bracket in 4AAAA. Westside is good but as not been tested yet.

From my gut, I never count out Tucker, but objectively speaking, it’s hard for me to imagine that a team that lost 38-0 will beat what most everyone views as the No. 1 team in Class AAAA. But Westside has not played nearly as good a schedule as Tucker. So we’ll learn a bit about both teams this week.

HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT YOU ODDS? GOOD CHOICE ON CAMDEN CTY, BUT WHY NOT SO GOO ON MY NEWNAN TEAM ?

The odds are explained above. It’s multiplying each team’s chances (in my opinion) in each round. So if a team has a 50 percent chance in each round, it’s .50 x .50 x .50 = .125 - or 8 to 1.

Good question about why Camden has better odds than Newnan. I guess I have it fixed in my mind that Lowndes and Camden are the best two teams in AAAAA, just a cut above. If Newnan bombs North Gwinnett as it did Tift, it will be hard not to put Newnan in that same class.

The GHSA needs to reconsider their decision and move the semi’s back to the dome ,No way these small stadiums will handle the crowds.

If the semis can’t handle these crowds, then how will the finals do it?

Any idea why Lowndes isn’t hosting the game Friday? They’ve won how many straight games and playoff games and No. 1 all season. Seems like that would only make sense.

I’d love for home field to be tied to rankings. Imagine what that would do for this blog!!

But Grayson and Lowndes are undefeated. Do you really feel that rankings or prior seasons should dictate which teams are home in the QF? Lowndes has played its last four QF games at home, by the way. A

Oh come on!! It wasn’t enough to get the Championship Game in the “Neutral” field of the Dome. But now we want to make South Georgia fans travel to Atlanta two weekends in a row if their team is lucky enough to win?

By moving the finals to the Dome, the chances are LESS that you’ll have to come to Atlanta twice, not more.

*Todd, Your rationale for the 10-1 for Newnan seem reasonable. But, only because I took statistics. *

I appreciate the endorsement! … The problem is that I still must guess at a team’s chances of winning. And I’m just a ranker, not a prognosticator.

re: Peachtree Ridge vs. Coffee

Lowndes fans might be the best source for comparing these two teams. P-Ridge’s calling card is defense. That’s about all I can be sure of.

By HeadEast

November 24, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Congratulations Grayson. Your defense was smothering, we couldn’t run or pass after that first drive. I think 1-AAAAA is super. Although they went 2-2 as I predicted The Northside was winning in the 4th quarter and Tift was only down 7-0 at halftime. Great job woodstock, good luck at Camden.

By Todd Holcomb

November 24, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Are these odds based on relative performance between other teams without regard to the health or possible improvement of the team?

These are based on me guessing. I’m thinking, ”Mmm, P-Ridge vs. Coffee … I think PR would win 70 percent of the time.” I’m doing that for all the rounds, then doing the match.

It’s actually possible to use computer rankings like Maxwell’s or Massey’s to do this more objectively. But you should take my odds to be just an opinion designed to solicit other opinions.

By HoyasRock

November 24, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

By moving the finals to the Dome, the chances are LESS that you’ll have to come to Atlanta twice, not more.

You expect them to stay in town for a week? Don’t the students need to go to school?

By ka

November 24, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Just looked over the AAAA bracket and I see that the cream is starting to rise. Looks like the usuall suspects every year,good job to all. The Statesboro/Tucker matchup has always been good football.Maybe they meet again.

By SportsFan31313

November 24, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Greetings MisterMak, CamdenFan, Viking Fan Trojandude, Camden08, NewnanDad08, and VikingsRule:

Congrads goes out to all of you on your Teams very well deserving victory. Lowndes County Stadium is a very nice Stadium very well put together, and the hospitality there in Winnersville was very warm and well received.

This Round three of the playoff coming up. Good Luck Teams on your quest for a State Championship. And of course, I am from Region 3-AAAAA. So Go Wildcats. Represent.

By Vikings Rule

November 24, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Not getting ahead of the game because i never underestimate an opponent. Grayson isn’t 12-0 for nothing, but if Lowndes defeats Grayson on Friday and if the next opponent turns out to be Peachtree, would a coin toss determine who plays host even if Lowndes has the better record and has already defeated Pchtree once already this year? I was curious because both Lowndes and Pchtree finished first in their respected regions

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Todd,

IF, Coffee and Grayson were to go to the next level, I know the game would be at Grayson, but Ptree Ridge, Grayson and Lowndes all being first seed, wouldnt they all have to do a coin toss for home field advantage? Say Ptree RIdge and LOwndes win this weekend, Would that mean Lowndes would have a coin toss and possibly return to Gwinnett for round four? Then if they win that game again to the dome in the final? That would be three trips in a row for them, could it really be that way? Im sure the program has the $ for it with all the seats they sale and such, but what about the kids being out of school so many days?

By SportsFan31313

November 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

I predict that the State Title will be decided between Region 1-AAAAA Lowndes County and Region 3-AAAAA Camden County. This will definitely be a hard hitting, physical, and grueling Super Bowl of a State Title Game with winner being crowned the undisputed 2008 Class AAAAA State Champions.

By HSBallfan

November 24, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Westside-Tucker: First of all, forget the Marist game. It did more good than harm. Yes the game was a meltdown, but not until the third quarter when Tucker’s QB was injured and the backup coughed it up a couple of times into quick Marist scores. The St Pius game woke Marist up, ditto for Tucker in the Marist loss.

Westside is getting great scouting reports, but so did Northside last year. We tend to take all those superlatives with a grain or two of salt. No doubt Macon has some talented players; we’ve heard a lot about McFadden, but there are always going to be questions about the toughness of a team that has squashed poor to mediocre opponents all year. It’s a lot easier to be an accurate passer if there’s no one in your face making you hurry. It’s tougher to get up after the tenth time you’ve had your helmet shoved into the dirt. Ask Sinjin Days of Hillgrove how that feels. King of the Jungle or Cowardly Lion? It shouldn’t take long for Westside to show us that the press releases aren’t exaggerated.

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Vikings Rule

We must have been thinking this at the same time.

TODD, By the way, I received a call this morning from a friend. He said the Tickets did not go on sale until tomorrow (Tuesday) for both teams, and that the tickets sent to Lowndes were very limited, is this true? Also heard Grayson was bringing in temp seating just to make it 6000. Should be a fun game to watch, YES either way. Cant wait to see the house packed out. I do believe the fact that we are in the metro Atlanta area, and all the things to do around here ( sixflags, stone mtn., the city its self, so many high schools, etc) is why we dont need more seating on a regular basis. We also have the Falcons, Georgia, Ga. Tech, there are so many other things to concern your self with other then high school football. Now for me, its the only thing, I go into DT’s when the season is over, lol.

By Chris Whitfield

November 24, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

would a coin toss determine who plays host even if Lowndes has the better record and has already defeated Pchtree once already this year? I was curious because both Lowndes and Pchtree finished first in their respected regions

All meetings between similarly seeded teams (ie. 1 vs. 1 or 2 vs. 2) will be decided by a coin flip. Previous games mean nothing. The only other determining factor is stadium capacity requirements.

By SportsFan31313

November 24, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

To Todd Holcomb and Region -AAAAA Bloggers,

My predictions for this week will be Region1-AAAAA Lowndes County, Region 3-AAAAA Camden County Region 4-AAAAA Newnan, and a toss up between Region 1-AAAAA Coffee County and Region 7-AAAAA Peachtree Ridge.

Region 1-AAAAA Lowndes beat Region 7-AAAAA Peachtree Ridge earlier this season 22-7. Coffee County travels to Peachtree Ridge. I was leaning towards Coffee County given the Region they play in, and a lot of these Metro Atlanta teams are over-rated. However; Peachtree Ridge has the home field advantage.

What do you think?

By keith jump

November 24, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

todd can you give me your insight into Flowery Branch and Baldwin and also thought on Baldwin going all the way. Dont forget what they did to shaw and the now not in playoffs Washington County scoring machine

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

Your predictions sound statistically correct, I choose Ptree ridge over Coffee, based on their scores against Lowndes. 15 point spread vs. 20 point spread.

By Reeze

November 24, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

HSballfan…. Camden plays in a weak region ,they’re a very good team…. I saw Grayson vs Warner Robins this year ….Some would say Grayson plays in a weak region they are also a very good team…. I have been around enough football to tell you for a fact Westside is a complete team….Anyone else who has seem them play will tell you the same….You won’t get a pacifier until fridays game…If Tucker is ready they’ll win…If not it will be ugly ..

By Thomas S - WHS fan

November 24, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Woodstock appreciates the extreme underdog role, that’s when we do best. I’m thinking Woodstock Wolverines: State Champs 2008 Class 5AAAAA. We will dominate Camden County in ANOTHER unexpected victory, just watch for our #7 Trotter, #1 Justin Thompson, and coach of the year Mike O’Brien lighting up the scoreboard Friday night. If Woodstock makes it to the Dome, then everyone put your money on our boys.

By Todd Holcomb

November 24, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

IF, Coffee and Grayson were to go to the next level, I know the game would be at Grayson, but Ptree Ridge, Grayson and Lowndes all being first seed, wouldnt they all have to do a coin toss for home field advantage? Say Ptree RIdge and LOwndes win this weekend, Would that mean Lowndes would have a coin toss and possibly return to Gwinnett for round four? Then if they win that game again to the dome in the final? That would be three trips in a row for them, could it really be that way?

How do you suggest the GHSA do it?

By Yo

November 24, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

I would give Peachtree Ridge a slight advantage over Coffee. Mainly because it is in Atlanta. It is hard to compare the 2 teams by what they did against Lowndes. All teams should improve as the year goes along but Lowndes seems to do it better than most teams. Peachtree Ridge caught Lowndes in their second game of the year and after their preseason scrimmage was cancelled. Peachtree had already had a tough game in Harrison, Lowndes 1st game was more of a preseason scrimmage. Lowndes dominated the Ridge in the first half but seemed a little tired in the 3rd quarter. Then scored at will again against Peachtree in the 4th quarter once they showed a little threat to us. Coffee on the other hand caught Lowndes much later in the year after numerous realignments on defense in personel. What it really comes down to is how do the 2 teams matchup against each other.
Coffee plays good defense and is capable of being very good offensively (as shown against Northside). Peachtree is strong defensively and okay on offense. Should be an interesting matchup.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Lowndes folks, there are plenty of hotels on US 78 between Snellville and Loganville, all within 10 minutes of the Grayson Community Stadium. Do your hotel search for Snellville and you should be good to go. As for seating, the stadium holds 6000, so if we leave all our fans at home, you can all fit in the stadium. There should be plenty of parking, as I’ve been going to Grayson games for 4 years now and never seen the parking lot full.

The weather is supposed to be 60% rain and mid 40’s, so not too cold. And why did the weather matter last year in the championship game? Isn’t that played indoors?

Is Lowndes going to be streaming the game back to Valdosta so the locals down there can watch it or listen to it online?

Todd, is there some sort of drug testing required for high school athletes? Seems that with the huge size advantage that Lowndes has over Grayson that there would be some hint of steroid use. Just teasing you Lowndes folks, don’t take me seriously.

Good skill to both teams and may be best win.

By WACO-FAN

November 24, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

keith jump waco wasnt a scorin machine we didnt put up more than 21 points against good teams we just had a solid defense……..

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

I see the Lowndes website has the link to 99 Kix Country for the game broadcast. Good site, Vikes! I hope you all have a safe trip and an exciting game.

Tell me Lowndes, what kind of passing attack does your team use? I know most of the time you don’t need to pass, but I’m sure you do it some of the time just to keep teams off balance. East Paulding was making fun of us last week because we run a 4 play Pop Warner offense. But our running back was able to generate almost as many yards rushing as the entire EP offense. So there may be some truth to the effectiveness of our defense. But we won’t know how effective until Friday.

By SGA Fan

November 24, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

To Thomas S - WHS fan

We down here in Southeast Georgia understand and appreciate your support of your team and find it very admirable. Your statement regarding dominating Camden is a whole different story. I suppose we can either attribute this to your overzealous and narrow minded support, of there is something in the water in Cherokee County that diminishes ones cognitive abilities. Realistically speaking, Woodstock will be lucky to put any points on the board against Camden. They had also better have an answer to the Camden offensive line and running backs, otherwise it will be a long night Friday as well as a miserable ride home.

By HoyasRock

November 24, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

Peachtree Ridge caught Lowndes in their second game of the year and after their preseason scrimmage was cancelled. Peachtree had already had a tough game in Harrison, Lowndes 1st game was more of a preseason scrimmage.

For some strange reason it was Peachtree Ridges second game also. I guss they lost because they thought it was just a scrimmage game. I guess thats why Harrison beat Lowndes the year before. IMO Lowndes is very very good. But just as it is rare for the best baseball team to sweep the world series, I doubt Lowndes will win the top position. I have no idea how good Camden is, but I think Woodstock may a good chance to pull off another upset. They tough, I saw them play against the Hoya’s.

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

TODD<

I dont have any suggestions, I was merely asking you if thats the way it works, I assume now it is. Thats the worse case though for Lowndes. Really sucks. I suppose making that far is the prize no matter were you have to go.

By HoyasRock

November 24, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

We down here in Southeast Georgia understand and appreciate your support of your team and find it very admirable. Your statement regarding dominating Camden is a whole different story.

Woodstock is about or almost on the same level as Peachtree Ridge. Harrison was lucky to beat them during the season. One blocked punt, and that was when Harrison was healthy. Win or lose I think you will be surprised.

By Todd Holcomb

November 24, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

The more I think about it, the more I believe the GHSA should change its rule for determining the home field. Here’s what I would do …

  • The higher seed
  • If seeded the same, then the school that has played the fewest home playoff games in this year.
  • If seeded the same and hosted the same number of home playoff games this year, then the team that has played the most recent road game, predating this season if necessary.

Todd, is there some sort of drug testing required for high school athletes? Seems that with the huge size advantage that Lowndes has over Grayson that there would be some hint of steroid use. Just teasing you Lowndes folks, don’t take me seriously.

A few schools, including Camden County, do drug-test, but I don’t think it’s for steroids. Those tests are much more expensive than those for stuff like pot. I know yours wasn’t a serious question, but thought I’d chime in.

todd can you give me your insight into Flowery Branch and Baldwin

Baldwin has beaten Carver, so that speaks for itself. Baldwin most definitely can win it all. Flowery Branch is a team that I ranked in the Top 10 in preseason. It’s a talented team with a couple or three Division 1-A recruits in Ian Cross, Daniel Drummond & Jaybo Shaw. A good, dangerous team, but not one that can win state, IMO.

By mrsmithinthacity

November 24, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

this post is for the person who said woodstock will dominate camden.LOL. all i gotta say what in the sam hell are u smoking.woodstock who. when they come to the den and see all the fans game will be over from the start. WE ARE WAY OUT OF UR LEAGUE. I MEAN WOODSTOCK DOESNT EVEN THINK THEIR GONNA WIN. THERE JUST HAPPY TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS. SOUTH GA FOOTBALL AND NORTH GA FOOTBALL IS NO COMPARISON. there wont be a team from north ga 5A representing in the championship. camden vs lowndes. we owe lowndes a whooping. havent beatin lowndes since 03. but its payback time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By TrojanSportsFan

November 24, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Pchtree Ridge vs. Coffee…well we wasn’t suppose to beat Ware Co. @ the beginning oh my goodness we did…we wasn’t suppose to beat Stephenson but wait we did that too….so maybe this could be the same story this week…we’re gonna have everbody healthy nxt week including some of those that have been out for most the entire season…so here we come to the recruiting capital of the world NORTH GEORGIA!!!!!!!!!lol

By Camden Cat

November 24, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Woodstock Fans We’re just bloggers…..make no mistake about it. Camden is preparing for you just like all the others. They know what’s at stake and they know you have a good team. You wouldn’t have gotten to the third round otherwise. Coach Herron is no doubt watching video and mapping out a game plan as I type!!

By Stat Man

November 24, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Jeff: How about you just call Lowndes’ coach McPherson and get him to email you a copy of his game plan and entire strategy for Friday’s game. Also re; your question about the weather in last year’s title game with Lowndes playing NG. It was AT Lowndes, as 2008 is the first year the title games are at the Dome.

Also, to all: Unless it has just been changed this year, and I don’t think it has, the GHSA requires that, IF the visiting team requests it, the home team has to provide tickets to the visitors equal to HALF of the true seating capacity (permanent and temporary) of its stadium.

So maybe someone out there in an official capacity (especially with the identity protection provided by the anonmymity of this blog) from either Grayson or Lowndes can tell us EXACTLY what the permanent (plus for this week, the temporary) seating capacity is for Grayson’s stadium.

From having watched and/or participated (in various capacitites) in high school football in GA for 35 years, expect Lowndes to bring between 2500 and 3000 fans.

To: LowndesCountyFan: Come on, now, be truthful. You and I both know that Martin Stadium does not seat 15,000 people. More like about 11,500, right? Is there an official Lowndes person out there who can not only give us the right number, but cite the exact source with documentation.

And to all: The Lowndes team is VERY fast, but not very big. They are average size at best. They will not overpower you, but they will outquick you and out-technique you. And they will keep you guessing with 6-8 guys running the ball equally all game long. Sounds just like Camden. IF Lowndes and Camden were to play in the finals, they would be mirror-images of each other.

Todd: Does the GHSA maintain any official list of stadium capacities?

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Like all the other teams around here, Woodstock included, will have to play a game down south to see the difference in the football atmosphere. Grayson knows it, and learned from it. The coin toss was a clincher, If there ever was a chance. As exciting as high school football is around here, believe me, down there the fans come out of the woods for it. We spoke to several Camden fans last year that explained it that way to us.

By mistermak

November 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

So far I have nothing to say! Looking foward to round 3! If I didn’t know the coaches better I would say this is an easy game to get an upset due to the intensity of last weeks game and the expectation of next week’s semi’s. But I know Herron is a professional and he knows how to get these kids fired up and ready!! So Woodstock I know you have Valdosta’s ex-coach and he will have his boys prepared also! So bring it on!!!

By HSBallfan

November 24, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

Reeze: Thanks for the insight. I value your words a lot more highly than those of the chest thumpers around here… your points about Camden and Grayson are valid. I’m looking forward to 1) a great game or 2) a great performance by at least one excellent football team.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Just to prove how big Lowndes talks, their web site states that “with overflow seating in the end zones, Martin Stadium has been filled with nearly 10,000 fans.” That sounds a lot less than 15,000. It seems that there is no information available in the state on any high school stadium’s exact seating capacity.

I’m glad to hear Lowndes is not big, but fast. We have played a couple of fast running backs this year, and none of them have been able to turn the corner on our linebackers. The only teams that have scored on Grayson have had big play passing attacks, short fields, and one or two long sustained drives all year. Now, if we can just score on the Vikings, we might have a chance.

By hurricanecamden

November 24, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

Todd Camden test for steroids as well. My son play on the team and everyone get tested before the season and random during the season. As for Woodstock Fans while you guys were celbrating your victory on saturday our boys was in the weight room and watching film 10 o clock saturday morning and early sunday morning before church. We are not taking you guys lightly. Bring the wood we ready.

By TrojanDad#63

November 24, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Mr Holcomb: Coffee odds are 35-1 ah come on now. I have one thing to say Peachtree Ridge you had better get ready. The Mighty Trojans are comimg to your town.

By Yo

November 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Jeff…in reality Lowndes stadium after renovations and end zone seating added cold probably hold around 13,000 when packed.

By Columbia Blue

November 24, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

To Thomas -Woodstock Fan

Thomas, the majority of all Camden Fans show class all the time. We are very proud of our football team and we certainly do not talk trash. Why talk trash? Talking trash never puts points on the board and it certainly inspires your opponent. Camden has been there, done that, and won a state championship. BY NO MEANS WILL WE TAKE WOODSTOCK LIGHTLY. You guys have got to be really good because you are in the third round of the state play-offs. We will prepare for you just like all the other teams we have played thus far. I hope you have a wonderful trip. Best of luck and please do not let the 10 thousand fans rattle you. You will certainly understand what the true meaning of Friday Nigh Lights is when you leave the CATS DEN.

By Todd Holcomb

November 24, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Todd: Does the GHSA maintain any official list of stadium capacities?

Yes. The information must be filed with the GHSA by Aug. 15.

See page 70 for playoff rules:

http://www.ghsa.net/files/documents/Constitution/Constitution_2008-2009.pdf

By Homet

November 24, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

For Stat Man

The Lowndes website says the stadium holds 10,000 and shows a picture of the stands running from endzone to endzone!!!

It also states that renovations were done this year that added seating but doesn’t say if that made it OVER the 10,000 number.

By CollegeVet

November 24, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd Look for Lowndes to hand undefeated Grayson two losses on Friday! One on the board and one to there psyche. Their first and only loss will be resounding! Look for Coffee to narrowly escape a offensively limited P’Tree team whose best scoring performance was just 37pts against winless Duluth. Coffee’s D and battle tested seniors will dominate the 2nd half. I also think that Woodstock’s magical run will end in Kingsland. Camden is fast, talented, and at home. The atmosphere there was amazing and actually made an impact in the Northside game. Aside from that the Cats are just better and deeper. As for Newnan,…..man that was impressive last week! That had to be humbling to 1-5A. NG will play it closer than Tift, but not close enough. Newnan by at least two touchdowns.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Todd, how do normal folks like us access the stadium data that must be posted with the GHSA?

By NorALViking

November 24, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Does anyone know what will be the CSS game of the week?

By HoyasRock

November 24, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

As for Woodstock Fans while you guys were celbrating your victory on saturday our boys was in the weight room and watching film 10 o clock saturday morning and early sunday morning before church. We are not taking you guys lightly. Bring the wood we ready.

Woodstock was likely doing the same, and your fans were also out celebrating.

By VikingConqueror

November 24, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

mrsmithinthecity

Up until last Friday night, I might have thought the same scenario would play out that you describe - Lowndes v. Camden in the finals. I’ve little doubt that Camden will roll over Woodstock - much as I like Coach O’Brien. Nevertheless, the Wolverines will be deep-fried, battered, egg-wash, rolled - all of it.

Now, I do think that Newnan v. Tifton last Friday was something of a statement game for the Cougarettes. They simply decided they were by-god, 4-AAAAA Cougars who can pound the 1-AAAAA Blue Devils into so much brick dust. Statement made.

The coming matchup with Camden and Newnan in the semi’s (I know, I’ve said it) will be a barn burner. I can’t quite gauge who will win but based on playoff experience, I’d give a close one to Camden. Either team has the capacity to make it a blowout.

I’ll make my quarter final round predictions later this week.

By Yo

November 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

HoyasRock you beat Lowndes the year before because we were pathetic in that game. Fortunately for Harrison you have played us twice and we weren’t very good either time. Some how we still managed to beat you the first time. You conveniently forget that one in 2006 don’t you. The point is the final edition of Lowndes 2007 resembled nothing of the debacle of the first game of 2007. So, you were the better team in that first game last year. Apparently unlike Harrison, we improved during the year last year. Now if Harrison could learn it is much more important to win their last game of the season you might eventually get somewhere. ps-I was throwing you a compliment in the above post.

By Yo

November 24, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Why doesn’t someone ask Mike Obrien of Woodstock what happened the last time one of his teams played Camden. If I remember right Camden was the visiting team in that game also.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Just wondering. Does Lowndes have much of a kicking game? I know you didn’t need a punter much this year, and probably haven’t tried any field goals. Looks like most of the PAT’s have been good.

By HoyasRock

November 24, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

The point is the final edition of Lowndes 2007 resembled nothing of the debacle of the first game of 2007.

Guess what, it was Harrison’s first game of the year as well. Loundes is probably the best, but those games only prove that Lowndes is not unbeatable. You (not the team) would simply have a differant excuse. If football games were played in series as baseball is, then any of the teams in the playoffs can beat Loundes, just some more often than others.

By HoyasRock

November 24, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Now if Harrison could learn it is much more important to win their last game of the season you might eventually get somewhere. ps-I was throwing you a compliment in the above post.

This isn’t an excuse, but these are kids abour to become adults. Harrison had more injuries than most teams and played with heart. To talk trash like this is not fair to the players on the team, not to the Hoya’s, nor even to the Lions who played even better and with much more class than you have shown.

By Yo

November 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

HoyasRock Ware Co beat you to the punch in proving that in 2005. Again we were the best team the “last” game of the season that year also.

By Brookwood Mom

November 24, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Guess What? Guess What?? Guess What??? I just called CCS and they said that the Grayson-Lowndes game is the CCS Game of the week for Friday night! WHOO HOOO!! I went to CCS website and it has not been listed but the nice young lady that answered the phone said it was the Grayson-Lowndes. Goody, Goody, now I get to see the game. It will be recorded though because I am out of town. Anybody else want to call CCS just to double check??

By SGA Fan

November 24, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

To the Grayson and Woodstock Fans

If you want to know what Lowndes and Camden are going to do on offense…look at the films, or make a guess from the stats….both run the wing T (so you can safely assume that they are not going to throw the ball very much, but don’t confuse that with not being able to throw the ball)….multiple back offense….trick is to guess which (of the many capable) back has the ball….and have a defense which can neutralize the offensive lines. Hope your respective offenses have a lot of speed to go up against those defenses.

By Yo

November 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

to talk trash like this Oh are your feelings hurt? You sound so angry. I’m sure Lowndes kids played with heart in 2007 when Harrison beat them. So live by your own words.

By Brookwood Mom

November 24, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

OK IT’S OFFICIAL THE GRAYSON-LOWNDES GAME IS THE GAME OF THE WEEK ON CCS. It is posted on the CCS website home page under schedule! Too bad we cn only pick it up in Atlanta!

By hurricanecamden

November 24, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Our fans are still celebrating but our boys was back at work preparing for the wolverines. My point was that we are not taking woodstock likely. Our team is preparing for them just like we do any other team.

By Camden Cat

November 24, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

My only hope is that Camden will continue to get better….even though there are only three games left….if we win the next

By Todd Holcomb

November 24, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Todd, how do normal folks like us access the stadium data that must be posted with the GHSA?

You’d have to contact the GHSA and ask. It’s public info, but If it’s a hassle for the GHSA to compile, I believe the GHSA may charge for the time and effort it takes to gather and send.

By hurricanecamden

November 24, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

How many people are traveling with the wolverines on friday? I want to know because we fill both sides of the stadium. Are you guys bring charter buses or are you driving? Either way have a safe trip. See you at the Post Turkey Day Bowl! LOL

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

SGA Fan, I don’t much care what offense they use, as I know the team has been watching film. But as Homey with EP pointed out, Grayson only had 4 pop warner plays. Then we showed up at the game and ran several plays that they weren’t used to. So we know Grayson has many plays in the playbook, but there are only a few of them available from any film. Question is, does Lowndes have an extensive playbook that is not on film that they can use to surprise Grayson this week?

Seems the deciding factor in this game will be if Grayson can keep up with the speed of Lowndes running backs and keep them from scoring. My guess is Lowndes won’t be able to score 62, more like 10-14. And can Grayson, using the same Wing-T offense, score on the overpowering Lowndesy defense. We might be able to score 10-14. So the game will be decided by home field advantage, 4 hour bus ride, special teams, and turnovers. Should be a much better game than all the Vikings think.

By PRIDGE

November 24, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Coffee fans: we are ready for yall!!!!!!!!!!!!

By hurricanecamden

November 24, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

That is my hope too Camden Cat. I think the team this year is a group of hard working young men. Dispite the distraction that they faced early this season, they are all well manner.

By Vikings Rule

November 24, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

JEFF My man, please don’t make the mistake of coming into this game trying to compare Lowndes to teams that you’ve played and defeated in the past. That’s not going to cut it. Don’t think Grayson has faced a team like Lowndes. Jeff this team has more than enough speed to get around the corner. It’s not going to matter how good your linebackers are. Lowndes has too much speed, too many weapons, and they are just too good on both sides of the ball. Lowndes doesn’t have a huge passing attack true, but it’s not going to matter cause Lowndes will dominate on DEFENSE and execute on OFFENSE. GO VIKINGS!!!!

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Mr. Jeff,

WE dont need to try and fool you with plays that you havent seen or that are trickery. We dont make any bones about it. We have about eight running plays and we execute them to perfection..thats it. WE say here it is..come and stop it…problem is..nobody has…so here we come Grayson, try and stop us. defensively, we are too big, too strong, and too fast. You will see just like everybody else has.

By Vikings Rule

November 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Jeff, what are you drinking? Lowndes will score more than 10-14 points on Grayson i promise you that. More like 28-35. Get real.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Vikings Rule, dude, my guess is you haven’t seen our team play, so you don’t know how smothering our defense is. I give your team credit for being good, you have proven it over and over. And this year, you beat Warner Robins 35-14. We beat them, at their house, 30-0. Seems like it might be a pretty even game to me. Unless your team is over confident, which I doubt a quality coach such as yours would allow. Or if you are not used to cold weather, which I don’t think you have played in yet this year. Or if the bus ride to Grayson is too long. Lots of interesting side plots to this game. If you can come to our house and shut us down with your overwhelming talent, so be it. But if you can’t, don’t go making a lot of excuses. Then again, maybe it is that region 1 is not as good as everybody thinks. I know there are three teams that are top shelf from down that way, but we beat your average region 1 teams just like be beat all our average region 8 teams. Talk is cheap. Have a safe trip to Grayson, and enjoy the close game.

By Vikings Rule

November 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Jeff, you seem to be worried. Not a secret what Lowndes will do. Question is, can you stop it?

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Jeff …talk is cheap..I will be there friday nite with some friends…come and stop us.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Vikings Fools, let’s hear all about your history, how you tore new ones for all the Gwinnett teams. Let’s hear how big you are. Oh wait, someone said you are not big. Someone said your stadium holds 15,000. Someone said you will bring 5000 people to Grayson. Someone said you will rush for 300 yards. All lies. You will see Friday night. You are playing teams in 2008, not in your memories. Is your team as good as you say? With all the lies, I’m starting to think not. Do I think Lowndes has a great team, yes. Best in the state, maybe. But you will have to prove it Friday night. Safe travel and God bless.

By Bears Fan

November 24, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

So Griffin is 12-1, but Mt. Zion, a team the beat Griffin is 275-1?

I’m a Griffin alum and fan and hope we can pull it off, but for my money you would have to give me better odds than that, or worse odds. I’d say 40-1, we have good shot against SW Dekalb, but the Westside-Tucker winner will be a heavy favorite over us in the semis.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

I hope GR#24 is the real Greg Reid. I can’t wait to see our #16 lay you out on the field. What is your 40 speed? And you know what makes our Wing-t different from yours? You can’t see our running back, 5’3” Pemberton. Hard to catch, and he ran over an East Paulding defender to get into the end zone last week.

By SGA Fan

November 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Jeff

My whole point is that Lowndes does not need any trick plays….it will be good old fashioned smash mouth football. You know what they run, they know what they run…stop them is the name of the game and I expect that the result will be that Lowndes will win by 3 TD’s. Don’t see Grayson having the horses. Ditto for Woodstock at Camden.

These 2 teams are better than anything I have seen in a while (and I have seen them in 8 different States over the past 30 years). Really interested in seeing Newnan…impressive win over Tift

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Make sure to bring your best, Greg. Be sure to wear your under armour.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

Oh, and one more thing before I sign off. There is something to be said for confidence and respect for your opponent. We have both. Does Lowndes?

I sound worried? Just predicting a close fought game between two of GA’s best teams.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

yo Jeff……not so sure how many how stadium holds,not real sure how many of our fans will come to Atlanta,doubt very seriously 5000 since your scrawny a* stadium wont even hold that many, BUT, I will bet you that we will rush for over 300 yds. See you Friday!!!

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Newnan does look good!

By Vikings Rule

November 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

JEFF, i think last Friday night qualifies as being cold my man. No disrespect to Warner Robins, but if you’re comparing your chances of beating us to Warner Robins, then you guys are in trouble. Trust me Lowndes should of won by a lot more despite the turn overs, but hey take it from me that was much out of character for Lowndes. Wake up dude cause it won’t be a close game. Talk is cheap, but just know we are coming. Stop it if you can. I’ll be back to say i told you so Friday night.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Greg, don’t you have minimum academic standards required at Lowndes? Basic stuff, like English and Math? You don’t seem to be up to 8th grade standards.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

I think we ran Jeff off. It must be time to practice his piano lessons.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Jeff, I will be looking for your #16. I know all about Mr. Pemberton. He is very talented with good speed but not good enough. I know for a fact that we have at least 4 maybe even 5 people on defense with his speed. Tell me where you will be friday nite and I’ll salute you after my first score.

By Homet

November 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

POOR JEFF

We are going to come back over to Grayson JUST TO SEE this Lowndes team…As I have said NO WAY Grayson beats this team. The question is HOW large the win will be… They ARE NOT coming THIS far with THIS many folks to lose a game…

Early week prediction (subject to a slight alteration) Lowndes 35 / Grayson 7!!!

By Vikings Rule

November 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Jeff for your sake let’s hope #16 can stop #9,#24,#2,#15,#33,#1. Now that’s a balanced running attack!!!! Trust me you have more to worry about then just Reid.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

haha, you are funny.

Comparisons against common opponents are appropriate. We beat Warner Robins 30-0. You beat the 35-14, even with a lot of turnovers. I heard that excuse used in another game where you didn’t score 60 points against a team of patsies. Bring it on, brothers.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Oh I sorry mister jeff, please dont beat no mo. I beez good just don t beat me no mo Mr. Jeff.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

You tell em Vikings rule….My posse will be dancing Friday nite.

By Jeff

November 24, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Now we know for sure that GR#24 is not really a player, as he would be on the practice field this time of day. Salute toward the top row on the 40 yard line, North side(if you can figure out which side that is).

Poor Jeff. He picked the first round score within a TD, and the second round score within a TD. Homet, I think everything I told you came true last week. I said your valiant Raiders would score on a long pass play because of your skill in that area and our weakness. But that is all you got, as our D shut you down. I doubt we’ll shut Lowndes down, but they won’t get 300 yards rushing, count on it.

By Wolverine Fan

November 24, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Hurricanecamden…..We will be bringing about 6 charter buses, plus a lot of people will be driving…As long as our ticket holding fans are not treated like crap…As I heard Camden fans have a tendancy to do…everything should be fine. Just be prepared to be taken to the wood-shed. Hope it’s a good game.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Ive played injured for three weeks now..got the day off and decided to have some fun…we will rush for over 300, I promise.

By Stat Man

November 24, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Page 2 of the Lowndes football game program / media guide states that the seating capacity of Martin Stadium is 11,400. With the renovations earlier this year, it is not possible to add end zone seating or temporary seating anywhere else.

To “Yo”: Mike O’Brien’s last game at Valdosta was a 15-14 OT playoff loss AT Camden in 2002. New Valdosta coach Rick Darlington’s (2003-04-05) Wildcats lost to Camden in the state championship game AT Valdosta in 2003.

Jeff: Here is Lowndes’ record vs. Gwinnett Co. teams since 2004 when the McPherson dynasty at Lowndes began:

2004: Lowndes 49, Meadowcreek 0 2004: Lowndes 17, Parkview 14 (state title)

2005: Lowndes 57, Meadowcreek 6 2005: Lowndes 38, Central Gwinnett 0 (state playoffs) 2005: Lowndes 49, Brookwood 7 (state title) 2006: Lowndes 7, Central Gwinnett 11 2007: Lowndes 42, Central Gwinnett 0 2007: Lowndes 34, North Gwinnett 6 (state title) 2008: Lowndes 22, Peachtree Ridge 7

Also in 2007, Lowndes won 31-20 over Roswell, a Fulton not Gwinnett team but, along with Peachtree Ridge, the defending state co-champions in 2006. Lowndes won the state titles in 2004, ‘06, and ‘07, and in the last two years has beaten the two state co-champions from 2006.

And before you tell me, yes I know … past performance does not guarantee future success. And Lowndes will not take Grayson for granted. But until your team wins a state title, or beats a state champion, please … try to be a bit more humble, my friend. The Gwinnett teams Lowndes has beaten these last five years were all just as highly-touted by their fans as you are about Grayson.

Grayson is clearly a good football team because it is 12-0 and in the 1/4-finals, and Lowndes knows it must play very well to win. The bus ride won’t matter, and Lowndes has played in plenty of adverse weather these last few years, like 28 degrees last Friday night, and very cold and wet vs. North Gwinnett in the 34-6 state final win last year.

If Grayson’s so-called speed and quickness are like the other Gwinnett teams Lowndes has beaten, then take that and multiply it by 2 (or maybe square it) and you can envision the Lowndes speed and quickness.

If you done it, it ain’t bragging. If you ain’t done it, it’s just nagging.

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

I bet our scrawny*A stadium will grow thanks to the money you are bring us this weekend. didnt yours grow soon after you won a tittle?

By WHS

November 24, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

as a member of woodstocks first ever football team I am proud of this bunch go down there and beat camden!!!

By avikingfan2

November 24, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Jeff, you say you have respect but then you talk smack like you are a proven winner. You say not to live in the past but until you are proven you shouldn’t say anything at all. I think it will be a good game Friday night but nobody else has stopped Lowndes in 3 out of last 4 years and again this year. Don’t make such bold statements until you have done something! Oh, and yest you did beat WR 30-0 but didn’t they have 4 turnovers to your none? we had 4 turnovers and it was the last game w/ 1 5A title wrapped up so we played very flat. Don’t make apples to oranges comparisons. Have some class and wait to see what happens before you talk smack! You said your linebacker has been waiting all year for Greg Reid, right? Trust me, so has everyone else and noone has stopped him yet! He is a special player but anybody can beat anybody on any given night. That is why we play the game!!!

Also, our stadium does not hold 15K, it holds about 11K. we sell more season tickets than we have on the home side (some sit on the visiting side). we do travel very well and will bring a large crowd to Grayson. We will presale everything they give us which would be half the stadium by GHSA rules (3K I guess).

By Stat Man

November 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

I will correct my own error: Lowndes won state titles in 2004, 2005 (not 2006 as I stated) and 2007. It also won in 1999 and 1980.

By GraysonFan2

November 24, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Im sure they would let Greg Reid off for the day. Did his agent call and request that, lol.

Jeff,

somebody really has you going man. If Lowndes was so superior to all other teams, then their winning point spread towards half of their opponents this year would be bigger, such as Camdens has. If this was really GR#24 blogging, then he has no class for arguing here with a bunch fans.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

GR#24 If this is you ——killa,get off this site and call me B-T-H.

By Graysonagainandagain

November 24, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

avikingfan2,

By saying NO one can stop Greg Reid, every one has been waiting all year, you are saying there are no D-1 linebackers in the state of Georgia that could stop him, and Greg Reid could step onto any college field and dominate at the next level. Let me educate you, there are a few D-1 linebackers in this state that could also play at the next level right now. I can guarantee you # 16 is one of them. I also assure you that once your coach sees how strong that side of the field is, Greg Reid will be running the other way, as every other opponent has had to this year. I would love to see him run the ball that way a few times. If he happens to get by, then it will be luck, because not many have. Im sure your Reid has also been tackled a few times this year, but not by this guy. prove me wrong, run that way and let Reid do it. your team may make 300 yards, but Greg Reid want, and it want be done on the ground. Getting pass a few of our linebackers will only make then play harder. Maybe some day Mr. Reid and Mr. Zellner will meet up again at the next level if Clemson ever plays Florida. I want make this totally about # 16 , we have plenty of the same all over the field.

By Graysonfan2

November 24, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Homet,

If your team would have won the game last Friday, you would be defending your team, that they could make it happen, rattling off all your stats and what your players are capable of doing. What you wouldn’t have had to say was that you couldn’t even get pass Grayson. Good luck getting tickets!

By mark

November 24, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

News flash…news flash, If the linebacker from Grayson(#16 I think you said ) is so good, then he damn sure wouldnt be going to Clemson..thats funny

By nomo

November 24, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Jeff, chill out man, and show some class. Have some of the repsect you preach about! I’m a Grayson supporter, but I can assure you after watching Lowndes film of the Luella, Bradwell, Warner Robins, and Northside games - we haven’t seen ANYTHING like this this year. If you think we are the only good defense they’ve seen, you are sadly naive and mistaken. I watched film of the EP games last week, and knew they were good -which they were (just not near as much as Hometmade them out to be), but Lowndes is indeed the real deal.

Vikings fans - we are bringing in temporary seats, just in case, to add to the 6000 permanent seats. We’ll have plenty of room for you, and hope you folks have a safe trip here. Go Rams!

By Yo

November 24, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

graysonagainandagain regarding your comment “Greg Reid will be running the other way” be careful what you wish for. In reality your wish is about to come true againandagainandagainandagain.

16 will be saying “(huffandapuffandahuffandapuff) whichwaydidhegowhichwaydidhego I can’t believe he just did that!” Regarding the one who compares Lowndes not running up scores like Camden I will let our Camden friends respond to that one See Bradwell Institute last week for a clue though. Any knowledgeabe High School fan would not have even offered that comparison.

By WACO-FAN

November 24, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

this blog has turn into a lowndes vs grayson blog dang are that many reg bloger teams out the playoffs lol…….

By Yo

November 24, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

Oh I almost forgot! 300 yards rushing…count em!

By VIKING DAD

November 24, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

The vikings will enjoy their turkey on Thursday, followed by barbecue goat Friday night.

By fred

November 24, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Hey Grayson Fan2, I dont know if Mr.Reid was bloggin earlier or if someone was pulling Jeff’s chain but I do know that Reid was injured in the season finale against Warner Robins and has been receiving treatments ever since. It was rumored that he wouldnt play last week against Bradwell but he did so sparingly. I have a friend that swears he requires surgery. Maybe he did have the day off, who knows. I am a Valdosta fan and I can tell you that he is the “real deal” and if he is that injured then you guys have gotten a real break. Beware though, they still have an awesome attack without Reid

By Yo

November 24, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

Statman thanks for the correction I was confusing Obrien and Darlington in 2003.

By cool cell

November 24, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

Todd, Carver vs G’ville who wins and why? Will Carver be more physical than G’ville? Can Carver D stop Blake Sims? Does G’ville play D?

By VIKING DAD

November 24, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

NEWS FLASH JEFF- I was just on Clemson’s website and your #16 ZELLNER is not even on their recruiting list. He must not be the player you say he is.

By TrojanSportsFan

November 24, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

being a coffee fan ummmmm LOWNDES will Dominate Grayson no comparison….GRAYSON is bout to see real South Georgia Football My PREDICTION: LOWNDES 38 Grayson 13

By politics-of-football

November 24, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

JUST THE FACT’s::: Grayson O# avrg thus far is 330+yrd per game, its a steady diet of smash mouth football and yes the O# is not that great with the passing game but does manage to get a few right, as for running back’s we have severl (5) that can get it done, the 0-line is very fast and disciplined, of-course Grayson could have run-up the score on severl team’s this yr but chose not to embarrass them out of respect that’s the way coach conn plays ball. THE D#::: has kept it to less than 90yrd per game and some teams went negative on the night, the line is fast and physical and with #16 and #18 anchoring the outside LBacker position and the 2 middle LB’s taking advantage of teams that doubled up on them makes for some hard hitting, make no mistake #16 covers the field lft to rht very fast and not 1 of your back’s wants him coming at them full bore, i have plenty of your game film and what i see is alot of cutting back, you will not start -stop-start again or piddle around in the back field with this D#… im sure LOWNDES is more then ready givin they have a very successful program , BUT DONT COUNT THE RAM’S OUT

By inthatrenches

November 24, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

Yo Jeff?? easy guy!!! Lowndes fans have a right to be arrogant and proud they are the defending 2007 champs (got to give the R-E-S-P-E-C-T) Camden has also earned it.. Newnan by the shutdown of Tift is starting to get it,,, and by your 12-0 record and #1 seed your team deserves some love but hey as a Newnan fan I know it happens on the field.. and you will appreciate the kindness of quality fans like those from Region 1AAAAA regardless if you win or lose Tift fans were a Class Act and I hope you will find it the same with Lowndes whether you win or lose Peace…..

By GHS Student

November 24, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

actually viking dad jeff is correct zellner made a recruiting trip up there but is failing so they pulled it

By politics-of-football

November 24, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this

VIKING DAD: #16 is holding out for the gator’s and since hes not the player every1 or at least you think he is then don’t worry about him, but respect him as you will see him Friday night and i bet the head coach is telling his boys right now BEWARE OF #16…………………

By GHS Student

November 24, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this

being a gwinnett fan im sayin the ridge is gonna take it to coffee

By politics-of-football

November 24, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

GHS student: who are you and where do you get your fact’s ??? as they are incorrect…

By TrojanDude

November 24, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

How do you suggest the GHSA do it? (Resolve three trips north for Lowndes)

Pretend it doesn’t exist and let Coffee solve the issue this weekend.

By CJ

November 24, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

COOL CELL OUR DEFENSE PLAYS IN REGION 2, AND THEY ARE THE BEST. LOOK AT WHO THE QB SIMS HAS BEEN PLAYING. THEY ARE COMING TO COLUMBUS. ASK SLALOM 1 WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT OUR DEFENSE. IS G’VILL GONNA STOP OUR RUNNING GAME. YEAH WE HAD ONE BAD GAME AT BALDWIN BUT WE ALSO LOST OUR DEF CORDINATOR THAT WEEK. WE ARE BACK ON TRACK. TODD WHAT DO YOU THINK OF CARVER’S RUNNING GAME.

By real person here

November 24, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

I have been reading these blogs for weeks now, I know the young man you are speaking of, and i dont think he would appreciate it to much that people are talking about his grades on an open forum. I happen to know he is taking the same three courses he is failing online and will pass them. If you know Greg Z. then you will know that he is gifted. These FACTS may alter his entrance into college, but none the less, I expect he will be there sooner or later.

As a friend of the family and an employee of Grayson High School, I ask you don’t discuss any of yours or our players personal business. College signings are a little different.

By AvikingDad

November 24, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Been reading the blog and just wanted to clear the air. GR#24 is not Greg Reid! The vikings practiced this morning and just the fact that GR#24 said he was injured and got the day off proves to me that it is not Greg talking! Why would he say he had the day off when they had already practiced earlier today!!! Anyway I enjoy the blog and good luck to all the teams and safe travel to all!! Best of luck to Our Vikings!! Who ever Gr#24 is I suspect he or she is just trying to get peoples cages rattled!!

By TrojanDude

November 24, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

SportsFan31313

Thanks for your graciousness on the Coffee win last week. The game was a little more frightening than the score indicated. Coffee put up over 450 yards total Offense, but, Chapel Hill put up some big numbers too. They were very quick and their no-huddle was a little unnerving for the Trojans. They moved very well from thirty to thirty with their quick screens and quick opens but bogged down once the field got short and Coffee could play closer on pass D. They managed very little on the ground, (fifty yards or so.). Coffee was well balanced. It was an exciting game regardless of the score. Hats of to Chapel Hill.

By columbia Blue

November 24, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan

I am glad you are talking about taking us to the woodshed. You are simply giving us fuel for the fire. I am glad you guys have a great team. Please do not be disturbed by the environment you will be in Friday Night. Camden fans show class and treat the opposition great. Those who talk trash evidentally have never been there, done that, and won a State Championship. Act like you have been there. Good luck and we will look forward to the woodshed.

By avikingfan2

November 24, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

Graysonagainandagain,

Please read carefully before blogging. I said “no one has stopped him yet”. If you look at the last 2 years he has produced again and again as you would say. EVERY game he has made play after play (ask North Gwinnette, Camden, NWR, & Peachtree Ridge to name a few). I am sure 16 is a player and I look forward to seeing him play. If he and your D# shuts down LHS I will be the 1st to congratulate them, but don’t talk untill you proven yourself! Ask Abry Jones (maybe the best DE in the country). We ran right at him and he was sucking wind at the end of the game.

Nomo,

Thanks for the respect. We will try to bring a good crowd and fill up those seats. Win or loose it will be a fun night!

By inthatrenches

November 24, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

How do you suggest the GHSA do it?

FORM A LINE ACROSS GA do a North vs North bracket and a South vs South bracket that way you complete your Bracket as North Ga Champ- South Ga Champ then they meet in tha dome or Macon or somewhere central to those teams

By columbi a Blue

November 24, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

Viking Fan

I am a Camden fan and I wanted to give my input about Greg Reid. Anyone who thinks he is not the real deal is crazy. Not only is he a GREAT running back he is also one of the best defensive backs in the state. The only fair comparison I can make of Reid would be Champ Bailey. Reid will certainly be playing on Saturdays and Sundays in the future. He will go down as one of the best players that ever played in the State of Georgia.

By GHS Student

November 24, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

which of my facts are incorrect. well you can just say im somebody who knows these guys better than yall do. as I have played rec and hung out with them my whole life

By Chris Whitfield

November 24, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Will someone please call EagleNationRising and let him give Jeff a history lesson on how Grayson can’t dare compete with south Georgia teams?

(Dear Lord, did I really just type that sentence? HAHAHAH)

By GHS Student

November 24, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

please let me know which of my facts are incorrect

By politics-of-football

November 24, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

GHS: i can guarantee you don’t know him like i do, also to run your mouth about him like you did tells me your NO friend… id like to see-ya face to face….

By mrsmithinthacity

November 24, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

i just dont wanna here the woodstock fans and the wildcat haters talking bout how bad they are gonna beat us.playing in camden where im from and played ball is nothing like woodstock has ever seen. besides that the althletes IM TALKING ABOUT SOME REAL REAL COUNTRY BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STRAIGHT FROM THE SWAMP. IM REALLY REALLY IM SICK AND TIRED OF THE WILDCAT HATERS. THERE IS ONLY ONE TEAM THAT IS ON OUR LEVEL AND THATS THE LOWNDES COUNTY VIKINGS.THATS WHO I GET WORRIED ABOUT EVERYTIME WE PLAY THEM. I GIVE MUCH RESPECT TO LOWNDES. CAMDEN AND LOWNDES IS GONNA TAKE GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TO ANOTHER LEVEL.

By politics-of-football

November 24, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

ABRY JONES: 6’3 and 275 pounds im sure he was sucking wind, how can you even compare that to a 6’2 225 pounder that runs 4.4 in the 40- benches 360- squats 570 and hit’s like a downhill train….

By its on

November 24, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Jeff,Jeff,Jeff, I know you have played against some good running backs,but you have not seen anything, I mean anything, like Greg

By cpram61

November 24, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

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By CamdenSoundGuy

November 24, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

Hey Woodstock Fans!

You have had the greatest season ever and we at Camden recognize this as a dream season! Staying humble, working as a team and preparing 1 game at a time is the recipe for success. Enjoy the moment that you have been given!

Last Friday Night we all needed the wood from the wood shed to stay warm! Go Cats Go!

By GHS Student

November 24, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

how did i bash him I said he is failing, god who isnt late in the semester Please point out when or where i bashed him and ill eat my words. and buddy im more than willing to give you my number and meet up with you if you wanna go face to face. by the way how do u no him

By its on

November 24, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Jeff, I have seen Grayson and Lowndes played. You have a good running back #24, but he is no Greg Reid. I hate to said it, the young man is the best in the state. He is the truth. You will see it first hand Friday. Don’t say noone didn’t tell you.

By grayson ram

November 24, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

why does it matter how you know greg zellner. he is a 18-19 year old kid out there playin his best to have you to who I can assure dont know him as well as you claim just bash him and threaten to fight over him ( a little ) but anyways football is football and these are just high school kids. I know greg I cant say im good friends with him but he isnt a bad kid like he was portrayed earlier and he is a really good player. Give him the respect he deserves as a good player ON THE FIELD thats what this blog is about not school work or guys trying to act tough over the internet trying to start a fight haha come on bro that was lame

By politics-of-football

November 24, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

and buddy as you said -send me the # - as for how i know him tell ya when i - c ya

By politics-of-football

November 24, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

Grayson ram: i in no-way said anything bad about greg, the problem is ghs student talking about his grades and any college invites he might have, with that being said i take it a little personal as greg is very close to me…

By Camden Cat

November 24, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

My opinion about Greg Reid…..don’t get it wrong Camden aint never scared….let’s just say Camden takes EXTRA precautionary measures to contain him…..Grayson you gotta do the same!!!

By grayson ram

November 24, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Your right it was more directed to just everyone in general. I go to yalls school as well and everyone knows he is good but he is just one of the guys ya know? Im sure if he knew we were talkin about him this much on a blog he would be mad. Like I said I dont know him as much as you do but he is friend of friends and he is just a normal high school guy so lay off of him and let his play speak for itself not grades.

By AlbanyViking

November 24, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

“have plenty of your game film and what i see is alot of cutting back, you will not start -stop-start again or piddle around in the back field with this D#…” Those of us who have actually seen Lowndes play live know that watching them on film gives you NO idea just how fast this team is. Teams that can compete against the Vikings take their lumps early and make the right adjustments.

By GR#24

November 24, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Viking dad

were you at practice this morning…no… thank you, dont speak for me , I will speak for myself friday nite.

By The Oracle

November 24, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Greg Reid is the best running back in the state and Grayson will see it first hand on this Friday. He is very elusive and can cut across the field at full speed while leaving defenders diving at his feet. Grayson days are numbered in the playoffs. Lowdnes overall team speed will be superior to Grayson team speed. I just hope that it isn’t a blow out.

By TrojanDude

November 24, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Yo

SpF31313 (Now that’s a good sunscreen)

Re: Coffee/Peachtree Ridge

I agree that Lowndes had really improved by the time Coffee tried to get hold of them. And for some intangible it seemed that Coffee slumped about the same time. The fact that the Trojans pulled NSWR, Lowndes and Tift pretty much back to back was tough on the young men. Everyone was pretty beat up. Coffee also had a couple of key players out against Lowndes also. One to an injury and one due to a one game suspension because of his on-field retaliation after suffering an outrageous personal foul in the Valdosta game.

Comparing the Lowndes/Coffee and Lowndes/P’Tree Ridge games is probably more irrelevant because of the “tradition” thing Lowndes has over Coffee. You may have read here before that Coffeee seems to be outgrowing the Lowndes intimidation factor. But, it’s still there. Take that factor away and the “comparative scores” probably lean more heavily in Coffee’s favor. With that said. Throw it all out! This is the playoff’s, Coffee is a proven Road Warrior and is certainly not intimidated by P’Tree.

Coffee’s senior leadership is playoff seasoned and all boy-dog. Coffee will score against P’Tree. P’Tree must answer and probably answer big.

Everyone. Please think good thoughts for Coffee’s outstanding linebacker that was lost for the season a couple of days before the Chapel Hill game. In a freak accident he had his eye severely pierced by a pencil and is stuggling medically to regain his sight in that eye. Good luck to all. Clean games. The best team.

By Reeze

November 24, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this

Lowndes/Grayson….From what ive seen this year Grayson and Camden have the best offensive lines…..If Grayson can keep the ball and sustain long drawn out drives we could have a game here,but that will be difficult against Lowndes…I think Grayson will have early success as Northside did ,but it won’t work the entire night..Lowndes kids on defense are just too fast and hit really hard especially that Smith kid #10..I think that Grayson runs a Buc sweep ..It will not work against Lowndes …..I think the only way is to trap or run straight at Lowndes …..Greg Reid is a unbelievable kid..I don’t think anyone can stop him this year,he can score from any where any time… DO NOT PUNT TO HIM! KICK IT OUT OF BOUNDS!…..Then theres Demps and Franklin to deal with……I think the game will be close early … But Lowndes wins …..Grayson’s defense is very good ,but they haven’t faced a team like Lowndes this year they’ll be overwhelmed with Lowndes speed on offense…..30-14 Lowndes wins

By grayson ram

November 24, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

I really hope conn has some clever playcalling up his sleeve I believe that if we run up the gut all night they cant stop us. There strength is there speed… Run right at them what does that make them, SMALL speed means nothing when ran right at. With that being said we also have to contain Reid and make him cut back inside with gang tackles. Reduce his ablity to cut it up outside and were in it. Now thats all easier said than done… Just hope the folks traveling up from lowndes have some respect for us win or lose

By Home Field Whinning

November 24, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

For all you home field and travelers. Now is the time for the fans to demand neutral field throughout the playoffs. Large crowds trying to squeeze into normal sized high school stadiums would be solved if neutral fields were used. There are enough college fields throughout the state for the large schools to use and the smaller classifications could use the larger high schools’ fields. Get smart GHSA and use neutral fields during the playoffs.

By camdenwildcat

November 24, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

GOOD LUCK TO CAMDEN AND TO ALL THE TEAMS FROM SOUTH GA. PLEASE CAMDEN AND LOWNDES FANS DO NOT ARGUE WITH FANS FROM WOODSTOCK AND GRAYSON. CAMDEN AND LOWNDES ARE ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL THAN THOSE TWO. BUT TRUST ME BOTH TEAMS ARE PREPARING FOR YOU VERY HARD. AND WILL NOT TAKE YOU LIKELY. TO MUCH TEAM SPEED FROM CAMDEN AND LOWNDES, AND JUST TO MANY ATHELETS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL. CAMDEN BY 21 LOWNDES BY 28.CAMDEN AND LOWNDES FOR THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP. WOODSTOCK FANS WE WELCOME YOU TO THE WILDCAT DEN. THE ENVIROMENT THERE IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT. I HOPE YOU HAVE A SAFE TRIP THERE BUT A MISERABLE RIDE BACK HOME.

By MIKEMIKE

November 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

GO CAIRO SYRUPMAKERS BEAT EASTSIDE EAGLE!!!!

By hurricanecamden

November 24, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan I do not believe that you will be bringing that many charter buses but if you do we welcome you. As far as being taken to the woodshed, I doubt it. But we do welcome you to Death Valley! Home of the Wildcats!.

By Newnan Will be There

November 24, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Newnan will be playing in the championship game in December. Bring on PTR, Lowndes, Grayson, Coffee or anyone else from that side of the bracket.

By AVikingFan

November 24, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

Jeff, ask ENR and sportsfan31313 about how crow tastes after losing to Lowndes after one whole week of telling everybody Lowndes didn’t have a chance. Just keep talking Jeff.

Someone asked what kind of passing game do we have. Probably the highest touchdown to pass ratio in the state. We only pass when we want to, and more times than not, score when we do.

Grayson, if we don’t rush for 300, it’s because we chose to pass it more. But either way, Ya’ll can have a scimmage game (basketball) next week with East Pauldin, Harrison, Walton, and other teams who have turned in their shoulder pads. Count’em Jeff, you’ve got 4 more days of football.

By viking lover

November 24, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Well it looks like Jeff is off line having a diaper change, so I thought I’d bring up a good and valid point that all Viking fans know…. as much as we all love Greg Reid, he is not the entire team. As a matter of fact most teams make the mistake of focusing on him alone and find out the hard way that there are about five or six running backs that can ruin your day. You might want to remember some of these names… Tyler Hunter,Gerald Demps,Robert Anderson,Khary Franklin,Michail Padgett to list a few. If you shut down Greg Reid, so be it. These young men will love to get their hands on the ball and run you down. I forgot about Troy Braswell… a sophomore. Please don’t underestimate the depth of the Viking bench. Just as it has been for The Vikes since 2004, people have smack talked every year and suffered the wrath that was due them,except 2006. If you can access some of the archive blogs from 2004,2005 and 2007, you will find Parkview,Brookwood and North Gwinnett spouting unheralded gibberish also. So Grayson fans,please sit in somber silence and consider the violent storm that is coming your way. You don’t have much time to prepare.

By AlbanyViking

November 24, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

Reeze, You forgot the Vikings other big time offensive weapon, one Mr. Robert Anderson, who just happened to score four touchdowns Friday night….three in the first quarter. I’m Hoping the Ram’s coachs are as worried about Greg Reid as their fans are, Anderson will have huge night if they don’t account for him.

By HS FAN

November 24, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

Can anyone give me a general over view of the Griffin and SWD Teams.

By Yo

November 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

Reeze your assessment of beating Lowndes I think is correct. To beat them you will have to go straight at their defense. Northside got away with it the first half, but Lowndes shut it down the second half. It isn’t as easy to go straight at them now as it was in the first half of the Northside game as Lowndes has made permanent adjustments in utilizing their personnel better that seems to have removed that option too. You pretty much saw those adjustments in the second half of Northside game and they have stayed with it. We seemed to learn a lot in that first half about ourselves against you guys (Northside).

By WHS Fan 2

November 24, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

I appreciate the Camden supporters who are saying that they take Woodstock seriously, and that’s what we’re all about here. We understand we’re going down South and we understand we’ve had a dream season so far. We understand that we’re facing the potential finals team, but that’s not gonna stop the Wood. To all Camden fans on here, the team buses and charter buses (yes we are bringing a fan bus as well as several carloads of fans) will be there following the boys to the game. And to be honest, get ready for a good game. Take em to the woodshed.

By T.J.

November 24, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Let’s talk about the Lowndes vs. Grayson game and not grades of kids. Although grades are a valid subject if open for discussions if people are talking recruiting. But that is another blog. So do not talk it if you can’t walk it. But what kind of friend posts details for all to read. I would just leave it as colleges are interested but must take care of some acedemic requirements to get signed.

I have seen both these teams play and will try to be objective here. Lowndes has the best athletes…period. More backs, more speed, and more experience. Grayson has the better lines on both sides of the ball. Grayson style of the Wing T is to grind out 5 yards a run and eat up the clock. The defense keeps them in the game by stuffing the inside run and preasuring QBs. Grayson gets a lot of turnovers. Very opertunistic team. And their best plus side, they hit hard and are aggressive. Lowndes has home run hitters that can break big plays. Their Wing T breaks big gaines because of their backs and team speed. Lowndes defense can’t be out ran and swarm the ball. So what will determines this game is turnovers and breaking a big play. Both of which are in Lowndes court. If Lowndes does not turn the ball over and breaks their big plays early and often, Grayson can not catch up. Lowndes will win by 2 TDs at least. If Grayson comes out and hits Lowndes in the mouth early and can sustain long drives and capitalize on turnovers; can you say upset of the year. Clearly Grayson is the underdog. I am sure it will be a great game, especially with the weather being bad and the great equalizer. I will be watching this one on CSS like many others in Gwinnett, so their will be room in Grayson stadium. Roads will be a mess due to rain, construction, and Friday traffic. I would reccomend staying a night in Snellville and eating at the many fine dining places near The Avenues on hwy 124 and Webb Ginn. Be safe on your trip up from Lowwndes.

Good luck to both teams! I look forward to a great game. Start the countdown!!!!

By mistermak

November 24, 2008 11:46 PM | Link to this

About Greg Reid— Camden contained him pretty well last year in the semi’s. But we could not contain Mr. Bacon from NS!! That fellow is the MAN!

Woodstock: Do you realize what you are getting into? by halftime the only thing your players will be thining about is where ya’ll are going to eat after the game before your long ride home!!!

Go North Gwinnet!! We need you to win so we don’t have to wait on the so called coin flip to determine home feild between a metro team and a South Ga team. We all know how those coin flips go, Don’t we?

By td

November 24, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

I don’t know who to root for between the Atlanta boys and the South GA boys. As a kid who grew up in Newnan (played at East Coweta), the cougars are caught in no-man’s land. Too far south to get any coverage by the AJC and way too north to be a powerhouse! I realize that the region 4 has changed. Back in my day, it was EC, Newnan, Troup, Lagrange, Carver, Upson, Fayette and that was just on one side of it. Now, I live on the other side of the country and hardly recognize any of the teams, but I live and die by football. As much as it pains me to say it, Newnan is not exactly a stranger to big-time GA football. They’ve had some pretty great athletes and teams.

I don’t know what’s going on at the AJC, (maybe you had to cut cost) but your high school football coverage leaves something to be desired, especially for the teams from the South Metro. When I played there was a South Metro section every week - forget playoffs. You should be ashamed that you have a team in Newnan whose county butts up to Fulton and is ranked 40th in the Nation by ESPN and you have given them no coverage.

Have you even looked at their season. I don’t care what level of football you are playing, but if you pitch 8 shutouts (6 in a row) and score more than 40 a game giving up just 29 all season you are dominant. If you complete the run, you are historic. In the two playoff games you failed to cover, they won a combined 97-0 (including a throttling of a well-respected South Georgia program).

I want everyone to know I can’t stand Newnan, but I can’t stand a blatant lack of respect even more. AJC you better hope, Newnan doesn’t blank everyone on there way to a championship, because then you might have to cover the team that was in your back yard the whole time.

Todd, if you’re the AJC representative, I’d be curious to hear why no coverage for the cougars? Have you seen them play? If not, what’s your excuse?

By keith jump

November 25, 2008 12:39 AM | Link to this

TO WACO FAN do i sense some sour grapes, yes you were a scoring machine. when you score 56,48,45,42,51,3,20 and 71( YES 71 PTS) in your wins and then score in losses 24, 12 to baldwin, and 7 in your loss to woodward, who lost to carver ahow lost to who, yes BALDWIN just as you did, you were a scoring machine. only the good teams proved it to be a mirage. just root for us now as we go forth in our quest for a undefeated champioship season.

By GraysonFan2

November 25, 2008 7:16 AM | Link to this

Good morning high school football lovers, 3 days, 11 hours, 15 min to go!

GO RAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

play hard! And have a great day at school!

By Drock08

November 25, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this

I agree with TD The AJC have a problem with covering South Metro teams.

By 800lbGorilla

November 25, 2008 7:20 AM | Link to this

GRAYSON FANS

Coaching kept EAST in the game more then anything against Grayson.IMHO

Lowndes brings Good Coaching, a lot of talent and tradition. It’s going to be a tough tough game thats for sure. Play the way you did against East. Stop them from making the big plays. Win the time of possesion with sustain long-drives. Who knows I think Grayson has a good chance. I’m pulling for ya.

Good luck

By AvikingDad

November 25, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

GR#24 As a matter of fact I was and will be today!!

By JIm

November 25, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

This is to bjohdawg….you can talk that trash about Camden when they play a full season in the toughest 5A region and then come out on top. Anyway you cut it Camden is playing in a weak region and its boring sitting in a stadium where you are joking with each other if the score will be 60 to nothing at half or worse. All the playoff game with NS Warner Robins proved is any team can be beaten on a given night…especially when ya have to drive 5 or 6 hours to play. Thats Camdens saving grace every year…they win their region so everyone has to drive to play here. Now before you say anything I live in Camden and will support the team but hey lets be honest here.

Let the fur fly now for all the Wildcats!!! lol

By JIm

November 25, 2008 7:31 AM | Link to this

This is to bjohdawg….you can talk that trash about Camden when they play a full season in the toughest 5A region and then come out on top. Anyway you cut it Camden is playing in a weak region and its boring sitting in a stadium where you are joking with each other if the score will be 60 to nothing at half or worse. All the playoff game with NS Warner Robins proved is any team can be beaten on a given night…especially when ya have to drive 5 or 6 hours to play. Thats Camdens saving grace every year…they win their region so everyone has to drive to play here. Now before you say anything I live in Camden and will support the team but hey lets be honest here.

Let the fur fly now for all the Wildcats!!! lol

By grayson ram

November 25, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this

I have heard alot about the Lowndes offense. Any players to watch on defense?

By Drago

November 25, 2008 7:48 AM | Link to this

TD and Drock, All of this is old news. I guess it is a business decision to cover the areas that have a higher population and thus sell more papers. I am reminded that it is a business, one that is losing money and readership.

The AJC is no longer the South’s Standard bearer, it’s the Atlanta newspaper. Unlike the old Atlanta Constitution that “covered Dixie like the dew,” the AJC covers Gwinnett and Cobb like a warm, fuzzy blanket.

I would think that the sidelines in Newnan will be full this Friday. N. Gwinnett will be involved and you won’t be able to stir the reporters and photogs with a stick.

This is just the cold reality of the Newspaper business.

By SGT CHRIS

November 25, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

I find it tickling that my Grangers have scored more points on Newnan than any big bad 5A team has come close to scoring.

By jet blue

November 25, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

After a few days have passed and the sting has worn off, just want to say congrats to Camden on a well-played game and victory. I thought we had you when we took the lead in the third quarter but your fourth quarter comeback was admirable. Good luck going forward, at least until you meet another 1AAAAA team, which would be Lowndes. I have to support my region. Also, good luck to Coffee and Lowndes. I think this Grayson matchup is a very dangerous game for the Vikings. I believe you will win but take nothing for granted. And Coffee is really up against the wall with a third straight road playoff game. Go get them 1AAAAA!

By P Ridge

November 25, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Lets go lions!!!!!!!!! We ready for the Trojans!!!!

By viking lover

November 25, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Grayson Ram, the Viking defense is quick and hard hitting,but not huge by any means. Some guys to look for are #10 Telvin Smith, has played at end and linebacker. #4 Marcus Soloman and #9 Gerald Demps,who is going to FSU next year. Both are D-Backs.Michael Copeland #17 and Robert Anderson #33 at Linebacker. I know Anderson plays fullback on offense and last game Coach had him playing MLB on D. Of course Greg Reid plays both sides of the ball and he will be going to the Gators next year, recruited as a defensive back. Like I said, very fast and very hard hitting. Mac Pherson always puts the BEST athletes on defense. Most games though, starters are on the bench for second half, as coach lets the young kids get some experience. Believe it or not, most teams first string players cannot score on the freshman and sophomore kids.

By Camden Fan

November 25, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

It’s funny how perspectives change. Everyone used to say 3-AAAAA is a weak region….period. Now all they say is CAMDEN is playing in a weak region. Don’t penalize Camden because they got better and their competition didn’t. We used to be as sorry and weak as they were. Herron just decided to turn the program around and now it’s pretty good.

By LowndesFan

November 25, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Graysonram, the best way for ya’ll to prevent negative offensive yardage and big plays by Lowndes is to punt on 2 or 3rd downs, you know surprise us and prevent runbacks or kick blocks. We’d like for you to switch to a passing game, because incomplete passes stop the clock and give us more minutes to score.

By VikingFever

November 25, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Graysonfan, our defense is small and young and inmexperieced. Our offensive game plan is to grind out yards and try to control the clock to keep your great offense off the field. We seldom throw it and are too slow to make many yards on the ground. We’re a lot like Walton, good but slow. Even Todd said our passing game is suspect, and that we are too one demensional.

On defense our LB’s are undersized, our DE’s are slow, our DT’s and NG (a Freshman) are small by AAAAA standards, and our DB’s are average.

So, next week you can start pulling for NG or PR (Coffee may have something to say about that)or perhaps just go to a basketball game knowing your Rams lost to a very average team. That should make it feel better. Whatever.

I know you must have a really great team, because you beat EP last week and I read all season long about how wonderfully tough and good they are, and how they’ll hit a team in the mouth. That puts ya’ll up there with Parkwood in the early 2000’s, Lowndes in 04-05-07, and Camden and Newnan this year.

But we MAY surprise you. Don’t buy your semi’s tickets yet!

By 1-5A Fan

November 25, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Grayson Fans (adults only please): Is it better to stay in Snellville or Lawrenceville as far as traffic, roads, etc? I noticed that there are more choices of hotel in Lawrenceville and it shows distance is about the same. Of course 10 miles can be VERY different up there depending on traffic. I prefer Hilton brand hotels (rewards points, etc) and it seems the closest is in Lawrenceville. We appreciate your advice.

By VikingFever

November 25, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

1st of all, I meant ParkVIEW not ParkWOOD in my last post. Sorry !!!

1-5A Fan, lots of folks are staying at I-20 at Covington and taking 81 north to Loganville and Hwy 20 to Grayson. Not much traffic, and short cut back to I-75 thru Jackson when coming home. This bypasses Atlanta and all the traffic on I-285. But the TD club has a block of rooms reserved at the same hotel we stayed at in 2004 for the Parkview game on I-285.

The TD club will also have a hospitality tent set up at the stadium by 1pm, Friday and all Lowndes fans are invited to stop by for a burger or sausage dog and a PEPSI.

By Granger80

November 25, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Let’s give a shout out to long-time rivals LaGrange, Newnan and Griffin, all still in the 3A, 5A and 4A quarters, respectively. This is is the first time in many years the “Big 3” from the old black and blue region days are in the quarterfinals in the same year. I’m a LG guy but you can’t but help root for the old blood rivals in Newnan, a sensational team and complete in all areas and Griffin, back competing for glory once again. We all beat the hell out of each other from the 70s to the late 90s but it’s super to see all competing for titles in the same season. I was at the Newnan-Tift Co. beatdown Friday in Alaska-like conditions and TC has a fine team but the public execution the Cougas put on the Blue Devils in the second-half was eye-opening, they were stunningly good and, without question, the best Newnan team I’ve ever seen, including Bass’ ‘81 and ‘91-‘92 teams. Newnan in ‘08 is light years better than Bass’ teams. It will a shame if Newnan can’t at least play for a 5A state title as they’ve never won a state championship. We’ve won a boat-load at LG with 11 all-time state titles and easily could have had 5-10 more but it’s great to see excitement not just with my Grangers program but also Newnan and Griffin. It would be nice to think that we’re all pulling for each other. Have to think N will get revenge on No. Gwinnett and a possible coin flip with Camden Co., wow, talk about huge for homefield. If there is one team that can beat CC at CC, N has got to be the team, Whether they beat CC on the road or at home and defeat an outstanding Lowndes Co. team in the finals, remains to be seen. N, this is your time to finally claim all the marbles as you’ll never have a better team—make it happen! Hope my LG squad has what it takes to defeat a good Dunwoody team and hope the G-Bears can take home another playoff win as well.

By bohgey

November 25, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Well, I don’t really know where to chime in, but the Grayson bloggers have gotten off to a great start.
I have watched all the Lowndes football I could this past year and I still don’t know what to determine about them. Last year, they started getting on a roll about the 3rd game of the year and got better each week. It hasn’t totally been like that this year and not until the final regular season game and then the first two rounds of the playoffs did the beatings get so severe. I want to see how these guys play on the road this week. The traveling hasn’t bothered Lowndes in the past and these kids all have great experience in big games. I think that prepares you like nothing else can. If it is a blowout, then I will be ok with saying they are still hungry.

grayson ram Our team is built on defense first, offense second. Reid is the corner, Demps and T. Smith are the linebackers and the rest of the defense are all playmakers as well. It seems very silly to have such a large team and still play the same guys on both sides of the ball, but that is how things are done at Lowndes. I had a Northside Warner Robins fan smugly question if our guys could go the distance in a tight game. I think we all know how that worked out. As for stadium size It doesn’t matter what Lowndes’ capacity is, the game isn’t played there. Grayson won the toss, we play there, end of story. Lowndes fans kind of relish the thought of doing our Christmas shopping in Atlanta anyhow. Lowndes or Grayson? Grayson is good, they obviously beat the likes of Brookwood and others to make it where they are right now. I don’t underestimate them, not at all. I do think that they have not witnessed the defense that Lowndes will show up with. I’m going to go conservative and say Lowndes 17-7. P’tree or Coffee? I have not seen Coffee, but Peachtree was no slouch in the Palace this year. I would rather play Coffee, but they have to take care of business this weekend. I would rather not face that bruising running back of Ridge’s. I don’t remember the guys name, but he was strong, especially late. Is Reid injured? Yeah, a little, but I don’t think that will affect how he works this weekend. I watched him run all over the place last weekend. If it is hurt, it isn’t bothering him too bad. Why Lowndes might be in trouble Grayson is good, but the real problem is the fact that Lowndes’ first teamers have been taken out of the games the past three weeks. That stamina that I spoke about earlier could be in question now. As long as our guys can maintain the level of play, we should be fine. Either the competition was weak in the first two rounds, or Lowndes has gotten scary good. I hope it is the latter. I think that Coach McPherson had to leave the first team in as long as he could to keep them fresh. The high point total was just a product of that. I don’t think he enjoys pulling an Urban Meyer on anyone, because style points don’t put you in the next round of the playoffs.

I hope a good game is had by all and our traveling fans make it there and back.

By mrsmithinthacity

November 25, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

say CAMDEN FAN u cant possibly be from camden to say we use to be sorry come on now. i dont remember those days at all. we always had pretty good teams always. i would like to say coach herron has changed the program around i must say. but for u to say we use to be sorry like the region man u dead wrong for that. u cant honestly be a die hard camden fan.maybe u just jumped on the bang wagon

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Lawrenceville is right on SR 20 which runs right by the Grayson stadium, and the road from Lville to Grayson was just four laned, so traffic won’t be a factor.

I’ve been blogging on here for three weeks now about the forthcoming Lowndes game. We know that Lowndes is the best team in the state, and probably one of the best in the country. We also know that we match up well against them. As T.J. said, the way to stop speed is to run right at them, like Northside did. Our Wing-T is suited for a fast defense that over pursues. Do I think we can win? Of course! Are the odds in our favor? No, Lowndes has too much talent and speed. Can we pull off the can you say upset of the year, yes. Lowndes has turned the ball over a lot this year. We can get a few of those, sustain long drives and eat up clock, and be in the game.

Good post, 800lbgorilla. I thought your team and fans were great. The fans cheered all night, and the boys played hard. Fun game to watch. I’m looking forward to another fun game with the best.

By Traveling Man

November 25, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Lowndes fan: RE. travel … it’s best not to try to make this anything but a quick road trip, spend the night, and go home. DO NOT go north or west of Loganville / Grayson (school and stadium is between the two towns). If you do, you will quickly get into Atlanta metro/suburb traffic.

AND REMEMBER, THIS IS A FRIDAY AND NOT JUST ANY FRIDAY BUT BLACK FRIDAY THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING! THE BUSINEST DAY OF THE YEAR FOR TRAFFIC IN METRO ATLANTA! For goodness sakes, please don’t get caught up in the traffic, or you will not make the game (starts at 7:30) or you will not get a seat (no reserves on vistors side). As one of the bloggers said, 10 miles here is like 50 or 100 miles elsewhere, especially on the Friday after T’giving.

I strongly suggest and highly recommend that you get off I-75 at Jackson or McDonough, because if you go any farther north of McDonough you really get into the traffic bad. So just go around it thru Jackson, then Covington, then Loganville, and the stadium is just down the road from there. There are plenty of hotels in Covington off I-20.

Hope this works for you guys and have a safe trip, which can be a LOT safer if you avoid all of this gnarly traffic — it’s only the worst in the country.

By Northside Fan

November 25, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Hey Mistermak, Thanks for your comments about about NSWR Xavier Bacon. He is the reason offensively, we went as far as we did this year. Bacon did not come up through the NSWR system. He transferred in (Military Family) as a 12th grader from Alaska. Before Alaska, he did some wonderful things as an All State player in Kentucky. He will probably play for a team in that state. Next year, NSWR brings back two offensive starters and five on the defense-so we won’t scare anyone. I wish I could say, “We will see you next year!” but I don’t think that will be the case. We will be fighters as always but like all teams, we will be in a re-building mold. Also, another HS will come on line in 2010. It will be tough! Good luck to you guys in rest of the play-offs.

By Wolverine Senior

November 25, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

mistermak The rap was made by a group of seniors of 06 who made the first playoff trip. We randomly break into chanting it in the stands and such, good stuff. Although we do have to be carfull when there’s tv cameras around.

hurricanecamden We really are bringing 6 charters. I’d know, I get to ride one of them friday. And you think your boys were the only ones watching tape over the weekend? WRONG. I went up to the school Sunday after church to pick something up and our guys were watching film and Coach OB and Mills were coming up with ANOTHER great game plan for this week. And this morning FOX5 came up to the school to give us the hand and right after the show was over they were headed down to the field to practice. We comin to Camden, bringing the Woodshed and releasing the FURY!!!

To all Camden/South GA fans/players I’m personally very excited to see the great tradition of Southern GA football. My father played for Athens high back in the late 60’s and has told me about how much the entire community gets into the game. I can’t wait to see it first hand.

Hoyasrock Glad to see some love from a fellow region5er. Its a shame that ya’ll didn’t make it farther (Although i can live without Etowah and East). Ya’ll had a good bunch of players and coaching staff.

By JAYBO

November 25, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

To the viking nation, as an outsider looking in, I just want to commend you guys for the way you all pull together!! The way you all are planning your trip, with your TD club blocking off hotel rooms, and getting all of the logistical information out to your fans about the trip on your team web page is simply BIGTIME!!! I gotta give it to you LOWNDES, you are indeed a BIGTIME PROGRAM in EVERY WAY!!!!

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Lowndes fans, be advised that the traffic in Covington will be gnarly on Black Friday, or any Friday. So give yourself some extra time to get through that. Make sure you have a good map, because the turn off to 81 is easy to miss. If you go up to McDonough, those turns are many and confusing, and there is more traffic over there because of the mall.

Have a safe trip!

By NHS

November 25, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan You have nothing to worry about with the Camden fans. I was there last Friday and we had a blast talking trash to each other. But, we also shared a mutual respect for the other’s team. Bottom line, Camden has a great facility and you will be treated well.

Different subject…Having seen Grayson and Lowndes play this year, I don’t think this game will be that close. I think Lowndes wins by at least 3 touchdowns. You might slow Reid down, but you won’t stop him. Even then, it won’t matter.

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Jlm You might live in Camden but you are not a camden fan. It’s ok we don’t need you. I know that Camden can play in ANY region and still be a powerhouse. Just so you know Coach Herron has tried several times to get us in region 1. You know what I finally realized, if that happened there would not be any reason for a playoff. If camden was to move to region 1 all the powerhouse teams would be in one region. We except our weak conference but I do know that we can and will run with the big boys. Do not come to the game if you are bored, like I said earlier, we don’t need ya.

By Ophelia Payne

November 25, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Hi Coach Freeman, You and your team deserve a pat on the back. Continue to AIM HIGH and SCORE SCORE!!! Job Well done

By K

November 25, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

As best I can figure it, Lowndes stadium seats 11,856 not including the end zone seating added (which is utilized by the band. There are 10 sections with 868 seats, and 4 with 884. Then the press box on the home side takes up roughly 270 seats, and the box on the visitor side takes up 90. I would guess that the end zone section would hold around 800, which gives a capacity of around 12,656. This is based on the calculations I made last Friday before the game started because I was curious about the total capacity, so it is possible I miscounted.

I look forward to a good game this Friday, just wish we were playing at home. Can anyone from up in the Loganville area give me an idea of the time it will take to travel from Lawrenceville to the stadium at around 4:30 on Friday? Will that get me to the stadium by 5:30?

By Ophelia Payne

November 25, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Hi Coach Freeman, You and your team deserve a pat on the back. Continue to AIM HIGH and SCORE SCORE!!! Job Well done

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Thank you NHS we run a clean program here. We did have fun didn’t we! We also have good food. I was in the mist of the “eagle nation” and at one point all we was trying to do was stay warm. Wolverine Fan we welcome you. I will be sitting on the 50 yard line on the visitors side.

By HoyasRock

November 25, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

1-5A Fan, lots of folks are staying at I-20 at Covington and taking 81 north to Loganville and Hwy 20 to Grayson.

Why would you travel twenty or so miles out of your way? There should be motels on the way.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

K, it should take you at most 30 minutes from anywhere in Lawrenceville to get to the Grayson Community stadium. Take Grayson Hwy in Lville(SR20) South through Grayson. When the 4 lane becomes 2 lanes, you are almost there. The stadium will be about 2 miles on your right. There is a traffic light there. Turn right at the light, then the first left into the school. The first parking lot on the right is for Grayson Booster club. The next lot is for visitors and everybody else. The stadium is behind the school.

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

This Grayson/Lowndes game is going to be great. I wish I could be in 2 places at one time! Goodluck to you guys. I don’t know how Grayson look this year but I do know that Lowdnes is holding things down. Lowdnes travel like Camden, we travel 10,000 strong ask Hoover! We had more fans than they did. We shout down most of Camden County to support our boys. Go Wildcats!!!!

By AVikingFan

November 25, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Thanks JEFF for the traffic advice. And JAYBO, thanks to you too for your compliments. At Parkview in 2004 our TD club fed sandwiches and pepsis to over 4000 Lowndes fans just outside the stadium. We will do that again this coming Friday. (Of course most of the food is donated) We will have a hospitality suite at the hotel after the game with snacks and softdrinks.

They say we can only have 3000 seatsat Grayson. (we are entitled to half the stadium by rule). I feel certain we’ve have that many make the trip. We are pulling for Coffee to win, for more reasons than the fact they are in our region. If we are fortunate enough to beat Grayson, and Coffee wins, we will get to host the semi game next week. Otherwise, we’ll have to to meet PR for a coin toss. Three weeks in a row to drive that far is tough on even the most loyal fans, as well as on the players and coaches.

By K

November 25, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

Jeff, thanks. Good luck Friday, but Go Vikings!!

By CANEFAN

November 25, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

GO FITZGERALD PURPLE HURRICANES!!!!!! PEPPERELL YOU BETTER TAKE COVER BECAUSE IT IS STILL HURRICANE SEASON AND WE ARE GONNA BLOW RIGHT PASS YOU, GO BROOKS COUNTY, WOULD’T BE AWESOME FOR A 1AA REMATCH, I PROMISE YOU IT WOULD BE A LOT DIFFERENT GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this

Good luck Canefan Camden County use to be called the Hurricanes. I am glad you guys beat Charlton at their home. Some of them was at our game friday wishing we would lose.

By AVikingFan

November 25, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Hoyasrock: It’s not 20 miles ouit of the way. Going north toward Atlanta we can get off I-75 and go thru Jackson to Covington then up 81 thru Loganville to Grayson. This bypasses Atlanta and it’s traffic and is a lot shorter!

Sorry ya’ll lost last week, we were pulling for ya. But we also knew PR was really good. I’ve told Todd that all season, ever since we met them in our 2nd game.

By cattracks

November 25, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

It is not fair to the fans to limit the seating to six thousand in a playoff game. Quarterfinal and semifinal games should be either at Halford or in the Dome. The coin flips are fine but no seat destroys the interest in the game which is centered in South Georgia or else the Atlanta stadiums would all hold fifteen thousand. Petitions should be circulated to change the rule and it may be that the South Georgia teams need some relief from coin toss results as well as the Atlanta teams. It is wrong to make Lowndes play in Atlanta in front of only five thousand fans able to view the game when easily fifteen thousand might want to attend.

By SGA Fan

November 25, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

General Observations

To the Newnan fans who are not feeling any love……after what you did to Tift Friday, any team would be foolish to underestimate that team……now you know how Camden feels most of the time based on the Region that we play in.

To the NS fans…..was talking with a friend of mine yesterday who was a highly recruited QB from Waycross in the late 60’s and in his opinion, Xavier Bacon may be the best High School running back that he has seen since Emmett Smith. He is definitely the best back (opposing or otherwise) that I have seen since I started watching Camden play in 2000. This is not a knock on Greg Reid, they are just different types of runners. Bacon can and should play at the next level, but his ability to get yards after contact along with his speed and good size make him, in my opinion, a very special type of player. It was a true pleasure to watch that game last Friday night.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Lowndes fans, I heard through the grapevine that our visitors side seats 2500. I don’t know how many temp seats are being brought in, but just wanted to let you know that is the permanent capacity on your side.

With the 60% chance of rain Friday, that should prove to be the big equalizer. Nothing cancels out speed better than a wet field. I’m starting to feel more confidence building. With your biggest asset, speed, hindered, our bigger offensive and defensive lines can control the game better. If we limit your offensive possessions with our ball control offense, and minimize your big play scoring ability, I might just change my prediction: 17-7 Grayson. Beware, I’ve been spot on my first two Grayson predictions.

By Todd Holcomb

November 25, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Todd, if you’re the AJC representative, I’d be curious to hear why no coverage for the cougars? Have you seen them play? If not, what’s your excuse?

I saw Newnan play Oct. 31 and wrote for the next day’s paper on the Cougars and Coach Herring. That’s one of about 13 games I’ve covered this year – not simply to do a game story, but to visit the school and write a feature story that’s a little longer and more in-depth.

Also, in the summer, we picked 20 or 25 schools statewide to preview online. Newnan was one of those.

That alone means that Newnan has received significantly more ”coverage” than most of the 80 teams in the quarterfinals. I haven’t written any feature stories on Grayson, Marist, Peachtree Ridge, Tucker, North Gwinnett or Woodstock.

Did Newnan once get much more coverage in the AJC? Yes.

There are a couple of reasons why that’s no longer the case. Until this year, we had a Fayette/Coweta edition. Economic realities forced us to shut down those sections of the paper and put more resources into the Internet and into areas where our readership (both online and in print) is higher. This is beyond the scope of the Poll Talk blog, so there is nothing more I want to say about that.

But this doesn’t mean we have turned our backs on the rest of the state. I’ve been to Lowndes, Camden County and ECI this season. And to Newnan.

The other reason that Newnan gets less ‘coverage’ than before is that there are so many more schools in metro Atlanta compared to 20 years ago that demand our attention. When Max Bass was coaching (and it still seems like yesterday), schools such as Peachtree Ridge, Grayson and Woodstock didn’t exist. Now, they’re in the QF, each believing they’re not getting enough coverage, just like Newnan.

Bottom line is that the fans of 90 percent of schools believe the AJC doesn’t give them enough coverage. There are just too many schools and not enough resources. But I don’t think any media outlet in the country puts more resources into covering high school sports and football than the AJC.

So as far as Newnan and more coverage, all I can add is, “You win, and it will come.”

By NHS

November 25, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Jeff, as I said before, it won’t be as close as 17-7 AND Grayson will not be on the winning side of the ledger. Lowndes wins by no less than 28-7.

By Vike-King

November 25, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Jeff … bring on the rain, babe! Just ask any North Gwinnett player or fan from last year how Lowndes and Greg Reid like the rain.

Get the picture … State championship game at Martin Stadium last December in front of 12,000. Rainy, cold and wet. First play from scrimmage, Greg Reid gets the handoff, and BOOM! 10 seconds later and 80 yards away, he’s in the end zone, and the 34-6 rout is on!

Bring the rain, the cold, the sleet, the hail, the ice … the more the better. Lowndes has played and won in everything but heavy snow for these last five years.

Good idea, though, for you to bring up the weather as an excuse already, since you know your team cannot play straight up. That’s ok, we’ll give you all of that.

By AVikingFan

November 25, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

CHRIS WHITFIELD Your challenge to ENR has gone unanswered. Maybe we should ask sportsfan31313 to just explain a few things about the facts of life to Jeff. Surely he learned them last Friday night in Martin Stadium! But, to his credit, he was a good loser. He got on the blog and commended Lowndes and our fans and the hospitality of Titletown! I just wish he’d enlighten Jeff and Graysonfan about a thing or two. Earlier this year NSWR crowed as loud as I’ve ever heard. Then Coffee did the same thing. Then along came Bradwell Institute and sportsfan31313. I mean hardly anybody else got a chance to write even a small post. But, they all learned the hard way what a bad taste that crow leaves in your mouth. If Jeff keeps on, even Listerine won’t be able to help him. Please ENR, or sportsfan31313, help him out!

Hey Jeff, this is all in fun!!! Some of us regular posters are talking about all meeting at a sportsbar near the dome and get to know each other title weekend. You interested? Maybe we can get Chris and Todd to join us. That’d be fun for everybody!

By righteous nubez

November 25, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

Any souwfth jouwuhja fans coming up to the metro area this week, I have a surprise for you: A PURPLE-HEADED YOGURT SLINGER!

By AVikingFan

November 25, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Todd most Viking fans think you and Chris do excellant work. Thanks for all of it!!!!!!!! Absolutely no complaints.

By The Anti-Jeff

November 25, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Defending State Champion (3 of 4) Lowndes Vikings 37; Gruesome Graysom Lambs 3.

By HeadEast

November 25, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Camden and Lowndes win easy. I think Newnan does too, but a passing team always has a chance. Coffee at the Pea will probably be the only close game worth watching. Looking forward to Camden-Newnan next week. Good luck to all you 1-AAAAA teams. Historically speaking, Grayson has no chance. This is only the second time you’ve made it to the third round and you’re just not in the same class as Lowndes, Camden, or Newnan. Be happy that you’re not only one of the largest high schools, you’re probably the best in the north.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

As a profound blogger previously wrote, if football playoffs were like baseball, then yes, the more talented team usually wins. Since your talent has been admittedly speed, which you have much more of than Grayson, rain will indeed be an equalizer. If you can control the lines and not turn the ball over, yes, you will win 9 times out of 10. My point is, the way things are shaping up for this one contest, more and more variables are stacking up in Grayson’s favor. Therefore, even with the dominance of Lowndes and all your D1 players, scrawny little Grayson may just be able to pull off the upset of the year. Certainly we’re not intimidated. We are prepared mentally and physically, and have a game plan for all the factors that will come in to play Friday. All I hear from Lowndes is your six plays and stop us if you can. That is what will make the game Friday interesting. Can’t wait!

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

That sounds like a plan, Viking Fan. I know I’d like to see Newnan play. My family is from there.

By AVikingFan

November 25, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

nomo and NHS, ya’ll should plan on coming to the dome finals and meet with us in the Lobby bar at the Cmni Hotel, time to be announced.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

baaaaaaahhhhhhh

By Bystander

November 25, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

I think it’s pretty cool the way Gwinnett County keeps rotating its victims each year with fresh meat for the Lowndes Vikings to devour. It makes for a nice and diverse multi-course meal, very appetizing and appealing. And this year a new taste … barbequed goat, lamb chops, and Great Big Gobs of Greasy Grimy Greyson Guts.

By J.

November 25, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Go Woodstock!!

By VikingConqueror

November 25, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

SGA and Jeff

Greetings. I too was impressed with X. Bacon for NHS. Defintely a D-1 prospect at running back. Greg Reid, on the other hand, is so good at running back precisely because he’s a better defensive back. This kid actually likes to hit people - hard. My understanding is that UFlorida recruited him as a defensive back.

That kind of mentality makes Reid a special kind of running back. He’s got great speed but he’ll lower the boom on you without hesitation. Like Bacon, his yards after contact are impressive. You might legitimately rank Bacon as the better running back, but Reid seems to be a great playmaker.

Jeff, if you think the weather’s going to slow down Lowndes, you might want to review some footage of last years’ final against North Gwinnett. It was monsoon conditions for most of the game and Lowndes won handily.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

I don’t think North Gwinnett will beat Newnan, but you can never underestimate that team. We’ve played them plenty of times, and if you can shut down their passing attack, you make them one dimensional, and they don’t have any Greg Reids or Xavier Bacons in the backfield.

The PT Ridge/Coffee game should be really interesting. Don’t know enough about the Trojans to be able to call that one.

By The Intimidator #3

November 25, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Jeff:

Confucious say: He who must say he no intimidated, already intimidated.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Since the 5A class opened in 2000, 4 Gwinnett schools have won, Parkview 3 times, Lowndes has won 3, and Camden 1. Looks like Gwinnett vs 1-AAAAA for state dominance. That’s the way it is shaping up again this year.

By HS FAN

November 25, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me about the Griffin and SWD Teams. I will be in the Griffin area for the Holidays and was thinking of going to the game.

By Vike-King

November 25, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

To Jeff, who clearly is The Appointed One by the Graysom Group:

You say you have a game plan for all that can happen vs. Lowndes? What is the game plan called when you tell your defenders to gang tackle, and they rush to where they think the runner is, and then all of a sudden, like magic, PRESTO!, he AIN’T THERE NO MORE! (sorry, just cain’t get that redneck out of me).

Maybe you could invent a new game plan called How to Tackle a Ghost. Or invent some new Physics and Geometry because the old stuff don’t work … like how to close the angle on something going so fast it is physically impossible for the two lines to intersect.

Coming your way, Hoss: Greg Reid, the 21st Century Galloping Ghost.

PS: Lowndes always wins against a bunch of “Sawbys” … see if you can figure it out, and call me when you do.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Mommy, please hold me. I’m so scared. Lowndes is coming. They’re going to hit me. Waaaahhhh.

Anyone who thinks the rain will not be a factor doesn’t have much experience running around a wet playing field. It is the same for both teams, but as I posted, it is an equalizer. It will allow us to focus more on utilizing our lines to dominate the game. If we can do that, we can win the game. Granted, Gator Boy will probably get off a few good runs on us. I said East Paulding would probably score a long pass on us. Its just not going to happen all night long. Just ask Homet, he was there.

By Stat Man

November 25, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Jeffrey:

Since there are a bazillion schools in Atlanta metro including Gwinnett, and only 10 schools of true Class 5A size outside Atlanta metro, we seem to be doing pretty well.

Plus, with each year you go backwards from 2000, Region 1 dominance grows bigger, until, mathematically and statistically speaking (I am the Stat Man, you know) the presence or effect of any team in Atlanta metro relative to GA prep football approaches a mathematically-defined limit of zero.

At least that’s what I learned wif my fif-grade ejikashun.

By jhenry

November 25, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

To Jeff Ask North Gwinnett how much the rain affected Lowndes. A great team will perform regardless. And “Gator Boy” has a name; it’s Greg Reid! But of course, after Friday, you’ll be saying it in your sleep!

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

5th grade is about right, StatBoy. Historically, you are mathematically wrong, but from a dominance perspective, you are correct. Between 1947 and 1999 in the highest football class, metro teams have won 9 of 47 championships, 19%. This number is nowhere near zero. South GA won 25, and Middle GA won 8, with the North and Athens area taking the rest. So the results of this statistical analysis confirm what we all believe, S Georgia plays the best football in the state. Now a trend analysis would show that over the last 20 years, the metro area has been catching up, winning 40% instead of 19%. And I am using all of South GA, not just Region 1, so Tift, Colquitt, LaGrange, Glynn, Richmond all being counted. Your dominance does indeed grow bigger, because of Valdosta. So StatMan, we are basically in agreement, South GA used to be dominant in GA Prep Football. But the dominance is diminishing.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Greg Reid, sliced bread. Greg Reid, sliced bread. Greg Reid, sliced bread. Greg Reid, toast.

I hope this young man turns out to be a starter at UF. Its always good to see one of our GA preps do well in college. I’ll be rooting for him then, but not this week.

By Todd Holcomb

November 25, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Between 1947 and 1999 in the highest football class, metro teams have won 9 of 47 championships, 19%. This number is nowhere near zero.

Jeff: Metro schools have won 19 state titles in the highest class since 1947, not 9. And prior to 1947, Boys’ High and Tech High of Atlanta dominated the state.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Todd, our definition of Metro must be different. I didn’t count Rossville, Athens, Clarke, Lagrange, or Griffin. Point well taken, I trust your count over mine any day! So that reduces the dominance level to about 50/50 between North and South, with Middle holding their own.

By Yo

November 25, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Jeff..Jeff..Jeff..Jeff..Jeff..Jeff Ask any one who watched the state championship game of last year and they will tell you the strength of Lowndes team in that game was the offensive line. Game was played in a monsoon. 2/3’s of the Lowndes offensive line returned for this year. You keep implying that Grayson is better in the trenches. My friend bigger does not mean better. Regarding linebacker play, one of Lowndes starting linebackers is going to FSU next year and the other is a sophomore who has become a dominating force on the Lowndes defense, just ask Northside what he did when moved to linebacker in the second half of that game. He has been there ever since. Also, 1/2 of Lowndes defensive line returns from last year and all of the defensive backfield that one sports web site said is probably the best defensive backfield in the nation.

By BrookFan

November 25, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Jeff, you gotta keep in mind you’re talking to South GA black trash and rednecks. No matter how nice they appear to be on this blog, they’re never more than half-a-chromosome removed from droolin’ retard. Wait’ll you see and hear this crowd - three thousand of ‘em.

So if you’re talking with ‘em here or at the game, keep your comments simple and try to relate all examples to farm animals. These boys and girls relate best to the equine, bovine and assinine. An appropriate comment to an LHS fan might be, “That LHS linebacker’s quicker than a penned-up sheep with a lonely Plowboy.” And so on.

My advice to the fine people in Jackson, McDonough, Conyers, Loganville and Grayson would be to lock their livestock in the barn on Thursday evening. This prevents the inevitable fraternization betwixt LHS plowboyz/girlz/bruthas and your prize winning Guernsey. No sense leaving the poor animal vulnerable to some stump-broke Sowega moron thinks he’s on vacation.

Oh, and the LHS cheerleaders can be relatively useful if you let them graze on your lawn before the game. I always let the fescue grow a little at this time of year just to be friendly. Nothin’ says “Welcome” to a plowboy cheerleader like a yard full of green grass.

By mrsmithinthacity

November 25, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

BROOKFAN WHATS UP WITH THE SOUTH GA BLACK TRASH AND REDNECK COMMENT. REALLY AND REALLY OFFENDED BY THE COMMENT. BUT IT JUST SHOWS UR IGNORANCE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE UR MADE CAUSE BROOKWOOD IS OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Hey Yo. Last year was last year. Quit living in the past. When the year is over and win another state championship, then you can brag to your grandchildren about how dominant Lowndes was. Just like Valdosta is doing now.

I don’t think I’m getting straight answers from any of you Lowndes fans. Some say the team is built around speed with an average line. Others say they are the biggest boys farms can grow. And now your telling me they are all NFL prospects ready to make the jump to Sunday. I’m saying we’ll see Friday whether your 4.2 speed linebackers will be able to stop our Wing-T. And we’ll see whether our line will match up to your line. On paper, I’d take Lowndes every time. On the field, we play each game each week, and a lot of variables come into play. My point has been many of those variables give Grayson a fighting chance. I will certainly be on here next week telling the world how good Lowndes is, if you win. I expect the same from you bloggers if Grayson wins, not a bunch of excuses.

BTW, has Lowndes faced a 250 lb back running between the tackles behind a good o-line this year? Oh, I forgot, it doesn’t matter who you face, you smash them all.

And BrookFan, we keep Rambo II, our mascot ram, under triple security in the end zone during playoff games. The Gwinnett Police guards are armed.

By VikingMom

November 25, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

BrookFan…..aren’t you the pot calling the kettle “black!” You’re obviously just jealous because your cheerleaders are not as beautiful and intelligent as ours! Not to mention they are cheering for a “class act” football team and school system! Maybe their town needs to be concerned about you! You seem to be up to date with your animal knowledge…did you get all that from the FFA club?!

By Yo

November 25, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Yes BrookFan the grass just hasn’t grown quite the same in Brookwood since 2005. Ever since Lowndes went grazing the Broncos have seemed quite scrawny from lack of nourishment there. We appreciate ya’ll coming to our town. Out of all the state championship games we have ever won….you were the easiest to beat..and beat…and beat….and beat. Speaking of linebackers didn’t ya’ll have some linebacker in that game that was supposed to be all of that? Starting at Georgia now and anchoring their defense, but when playing Lowndes in 2005 he (like the rest of the Brickwood team) played more like Shetland ponies. Been to a psychiatrist lately? I know that beat down had to of left some pretty bad scars. I’m kind of wishing you guys would show up in a state championship again, winning was never so easy and so much fun. :-)

By Vike 69

November 25, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Can anyone provide the URL for the CCS Lowndes-Grayson game coverage?

By BODOG

November 25, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

HEY TODD………..THINGS COULD CHANGE QUITE A BIT ON FRIDAY ACCORDING TO WEATHER FORCAST!!!!! sTRANGE THINGS CAN HAPPEN ON WET FIELD, AND EVERYBODY DOES NOT HAVE NEW TURF……..THE WEATHER CHANNEL SAID THERE WOULD BE THUNDER SHOWERS OFF AND ON ALL DAY FRIDAY OVER MOST OF GEORFIA……..ODDS COULD CHANGE IF THIS WEATHER SYSTEM COMES IBTO PLAY,,,WHAT DO YOU THINK; TODD?

By td

November 25, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Thanks Todd for your explanation. As a one-time football writer I feel your economic pain. As I said early I’ve been out West for 5 years. Most of these posters can simply go check out whatever teams they want on Fridays or watch 11-Alive, but someone like me depends on the AJC coverage to stay apprised. Its obviously frustrating and depressing when you see the shrinking coverage of the best version of the best sport in the world (high school football).

Your obviously a stand up guy who cares about GA high school football so I won’t rake you over the coals for decisions made by the penny-pinching-publishers. Thanks again for your candid response.

By South GA Black Trash and Redneck

November 25, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

hey BrookFan:

Your daddy and granddaddy are the same man.

By grayson ram

November 25, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

hahahahahaha

By HeadEast

November 25, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

BrookFan - Have you mistaken Grayson for civilization? Anyone that touts the A&J Tasty Pig and then runs a ram and a lamb out on the field before kickoff is not exactly inner city suave. You may talk plowboy and farm animals, Grayson lives it. They may think they’re city because the two-land just got widened, but they’re country red through and through. and speaking of cheerleaders I walked over to the Grayson side at halftime, mostly to see the bands, but those cheerleaders, BAAAAH!!!!!

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Kind of a low blow there, BrookFan. Remember, both our schools were built on cow pastures. We still have cows right next to GHS. Enough name calling. I admit I said the same thing about the East Paulding cheerleaders, but they are a metro school, just like us.

Back to the game, Yo, if Brookwood’s D1 linebacker didn’t make an impact in the game against you, what makes you think your D1 linebacker can make an impact against us? Linebackers have to make the play on our scat back, because the line can’t see him, and the DBs will be chasing our WRs.

Yo, are you a history teacher?

By No Racist Like BrookFan

November 25, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

To BrookFan and Jeff: Y’all are in bed together with EagleNationRising.

BrookFan: Lowndes 49 Crookwood 7, 2005 State Championship. Don’t lean over, boy. We’ll be a-looking for ye.

Jeff: Quit living in the past, like those stats you gave us going back to 2000.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

www.csssports.com

Don’t know if they will be streaming the game online, however. KIX country may be your only chance to keep up with the game.

By Vikings Rule

November 25, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

JEFF You surely seem to be worried about what Lowndes is bringing? First you inquire about what plays we run, next you inquire about our speed, then you inquire about our size. If your Grayson team is as good as you say they are then come Friday you should have nothing to worry about.

By BrookFan

November 25, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Yo-yo, my favorite bi-homo-Viking fan, you’re obviously delusional - take the meds, just take the meds. Did you have any children on that 2006 LHS team that beat Brookwood? Or are you just another wanna-be Sowega goober who’s got nothing better to do on a Friday night but vicariously claim winner status via a bunch of 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22-year old Viking players (when exactly do you get these kids to graduate?). Ah, thought so - just a tag-along.

By TrojanDude

November 25, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Todd

I appreciate your intervening on some of thes statistical and comparative accomplishment issues. Seems to me when a blog inevetably turns to jawin’ and braggin’, everything of relevance has been beaten to death. At this point in the playoffs anything other than rivalries and historical intimidations of one team by another, past results must be pretty much flushed. I just don’t see what all this political lobbying and historical posturing has to do with anything.

By mistermak

November 25, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

3 more days!!! Hey Wolverines are you ready? Can you hear that train? Your season is winding down and it is almost time to take the slipper off!!

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Hello Brookfan it me the black trash that lives in Osprey Cove Golf Course Community and drive a Mercedes S 320. My black trash son play on a redneck team that has a million dollar turf in their stadium. Their redneck black trash team has a state of the art facility that the Jaguars wish they had. And oh if you ever visit Camden let me know so I can let you Park your house in my garage.

By Big Pappi

November 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

WILDMAN/HOYADAWG - I am coming to your gym Tuesday DEC 2. 7:30. If you guys are still around, why don’t you stop in and say hello?

By Yo

November 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Jeff last year was not just last year when two thirds of last years Lowndes team is back again this year. Faster, more mature, stronger, played in rain (and I am talking downpour’s) twice. Lost the first one to a good Harrison team last year in the rain 9-0 putting the ball on the ground 7 times, threw 2 interceptions. Since that time these same boys have gone undefeated and played in a driving wind and rain storm in the state championship game. Also played in a good rain storm against Luella 2 weeks ago. Please check out the results of the last 2 times we have played in the rain in the playoffs. State championship last year (2/3 of the same team as this year) and 2 weeks ago against Luella. In both games we called off the dogs before game end which pretty much signifies a lot of points were scored. The last 2 times we traveled we put up 290 yards rushing and 396 rushing yards. Against Coffee (a BIG offensive line, 205 lb. back and a very good passing team) our defense gave up a total of 91 yards. What is so much fun is to know Grayson is undefeated, so you can be sure you will be seeing some motivated, we have something to prove group of kids coming to your town. Lowndes will not be taking you lightly.

By Vikings Rule

November 25, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

BROOKFAN And exactly why are you still on this blog? If my memory serves me correctly didn’t these same black trash and Ga rednecks whip your sorry Broncos in 2005. Don’t think i’ve ever heard of anyone in my race be called black trash before. Now thats funny!!!

By trojan83

November 25, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd, I told you three weeks ago not to take coffee county too lightly. I also said that there would be several teams that would take us lightly and regret that they did so. I know that the playoffs are only in the third round but you have to give props to our team and coaching staff, we have went a lot farther than you ever thought. You haven’t seen our best yet, just wait and see. Coach of the year should go to coffee high’s coach, he deserves it.

By Fescue(?)

November 25, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Hey Brookfan … since you ain’t got no dog in this hunt, and you ain’t had no dog in this hunt fer awhile, why dawnt you jes take yer cute little butt back home to where ye came frum. Better’n that, jes take your ball home and play with … un, BY yourself, son. And leave the footbawl to us big boys, ya hear?

ya remind me of that boy who cried wolf … ain’t nobody lissenin’ to ya, boy.

And what in the HAIL is fescue?

By HeadEast

November 25, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

Please stop the racial nonsense. There’s only one race, the human race. Except for those Grayson cheerleaders who are at least half rammed sheep!!!!

By Vikings Rule

November 25, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

YO Sounds like we got a hater!! BROOKFAN sounds like he/she may be jealous. This is the only way he/she gets to still talk about football. If i’m not mistaken they are only probably talking about round ball at Brookwood. Just ignore

By Yo

November 25, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

BrookFan I went to buy my meds the other day and they said BrookFan had bought out the supply for a whole year. I see you are into by-homo’s huh? Probably the result of that serious beat down Lowndes gave you that reminded you of your child hood. Oh wait, I could be mistaken, you have grown up haven’t you?

By Yo

November 25, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Jeff I bring up linebackers because your #16 is starting to make me tremble (a lot like Brookwood’s 2005 linebacker) in my shoes you have built him up soooooooooooooooooooooo much!

By 1 5 A fan

November 25, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

To everyone posting on here. All of the teams that are still playing are still playing for a reason, because THEY ARE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO. Lets sit back and see where round 3 takes us. Good luck to all. Enjoy the games this holiday weekend. By the way they are tearing down Coffee’s old stadium as we speak so the visiting teams next year will have alot better time of it.

GO TROJANS!!!

By Yo

November 25, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Vikings Rule actually I have missed BrookFan. He has been gone so long I thought he was in some serious therapy session as in “inpatient”. Either I was wrong or he temporarily got loose. Lowndes beatdowns does that to some people. Makes em dream about plowboys chasing sheep. I think most psychiatrists would see those sheep as synonmous with BrookFan himself. He just can’t seem to get away from them Plowboys (in his mind).

By TrojanDude

November 25, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

I have repeatedly read the nod in the Coffee/Peachtree Ridge contest goes to P’Tree because of home field advantage. May I remind everyone that Coffee’s losses this year were all at home… NSWR, 3 points. Lowndes, 21 points, (well it was lowndes), and Tift, 3 points. Coffee is unbeaten on the road this year. Everyone may want to mull that over.

By Vikings Rule

November 25, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

1 5 A fan. Congrats on the new and upcoming facilities. You guys deserve it especially after the season you guys are having. Now lets show these so called city boys how we country boys represent this Friday night in the ATL!!!!

By Sir Redstone Octavius Silverspoon, IV

November 25, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Hello fellow chaps!

I must say, this is highly entertaining and of the most extreme interest, by george. As a senior at Harvard majoring in anthropology, sociology and racial trash-o-pology (specifically, the difference between what you Yanks call “white trash”; “black trash”; and “rednecks”), this little ditty of a dialogue may present itself to be quite the laboratory for me and my studies.

What say you provide permission for me to borrow these exchanges to employ in my dissertation, the final piece of which I intend to have completed by the end of the spring semester? But of course, I must respectfully request that each of you be prepared to identify yourself, without which I will have grossly failed my Professor, whose ironclad requirements I must follow with absolute certainty and precision, lest I shall be branded within the University as having made up these uproarious postings, as it is seemingly so unlikely that it be possible to have such panderings as these as to have one’s entire credibility and existence questioned.

In short, sirs, there is no way on King George’s Great Britain that these emanations could have sprung forth from members of the human race. Dare I say, perhaps, they are just an imagination of one lonesome soul sitting at his word processor, pecking away at his keyboard, being paid a mere pittance by his journalistic parental units?

Perhaps I shall become the next … how do you say it …. “EagleNationRising”? Oh, to have longed for such a moniker, and to have actually been so knighted with such a crown!

Blimey, my good mates.

By 1 5 A fan

November 25, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

I dont understand it myself but Coffee is a completly diffrent team on the road.

By Yo

November 25, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

Go get em TrojanDude. Making me hope Peachtree Ridge wins with all of that Coffee road warrior stuff. :-)

By 1 5 A fan

November 25, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Where the heck did he come from?

By Vikings Rule

November 25, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

YO i think you’re right about BROOKFAN, he just can’t seem to get them plowboys out of his head.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

16 built himself up. Your boys have seen him on film. We’ll see how much your coaches are trembling by the nature of their play calling. If they run away from him or not. I doubt the coaches are as cocky as the fans. I know our coaches aren’t are cocky as the Grayson fans. And Yo, your fans have built up your Greg Reid as the next Herschel Walker. We’ll see Friday. And Vikings Rule, your speed and defense and all that was volunteered by Lowndes fans on this blog, gloating about this and that. As a fan, I’m looking for insider info on what to watch for in the game. Which linebackers are the studs that will make the hits and such.

By Yo

November 25, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Sir ROS IV being from some place besides here you are excused. We can’t help what good ole S.Ga. football does to us otherwise civil folks.

By BrookFan

November 25, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

hurricanecamden, so it’s YOUR Subprime mortgage and car loans that I can blame for the current financial crisis. Don’t worry, though, taxpayers gonna bail you out. Worse come to worse, you can always be a lawn jockey for us up here in the north.

Here’s a set of economic equations for you:

Camden Co. - NSB Kings Bay = Cow Pasture. / Lowndes Co. - MAFB = State Prison + Cow Pasture. / Houston Co. - WRAFB = Bad Cow Pasture.

Thank Jesus for that federal money Sowega-ites.

By Village Idiot

November 25, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

SROS IV, please convey to any of your fellow students majoring in Idiotology, that my village would be an excellent place for a case study. You may direct any interested parties to our leader, Brookfan.

By bigboy

November 25, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Ok Newnan fans I have to ask how do you only beat East Coweta by 12 and beat Tift by 42? What the… East Coweta lost to Bradwell who lost to Lowndes by 50. I just don’t understand how you can barely beat East Coweta and kill a pretty good Tift team. Any insight.

By Vikings Rule

November 25, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

1 5 A fan I know right. Who in the heck is that?

By Yo

November 25, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Village Idiot we got to get him back “into” the village first. It looks like he got away.

By K

November 25, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

It says a lot about a person when the only thing he can talk about on a football blog, is someone else’s community. I may not like all the trash talking going on by everyone, but at least it has something to do with the topic of football.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Not sure if I complimented most of the EP Raider fans for their spirit and class at the game yet. They were cheering for their boys the entire game, rattling cowbells and horns and just making quite a ruckus. Unlike HeadEast, who enjoys name calling instead of sports discussion.

Where are all these first time blogger names coming from? People too chicken to use their normal blog handles? Its pretty easy to see when school let’s out. That is when BrookFan showed up. I’m embarassed to have fans like that in our region.

Where is GR#24? He had quite the attitude also. He sounded like a football player though, bad mouthing piano lessons.

Vikings Rule et al, you may wish to car pool from your motel in Covington. Our lot has never been totally full, but I don’t think our stadium has ever seen a crowd like we’re expecting. We’re bringing in extra concession workers and keeping them late, just for your band.

By K

November 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Brookfan, let’s add one more economic equation:

United States - Military = Nazi, Communist, Taliban (take your pick) Cow Pasture

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Ever since I was at Lakeside in the 70’s, I’ve always wondered why teams from Valdosta area have always been so good. It’s not just one coach, or one school. What is it? Water? Genes? Tradition?

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

my black husband is an engineer (20 years) and I am a black Nurse(17 years) and business owner. This is just one of the trash houses we own. Mercedes we bought cash. House paid for. Everything I have I own. No leasing no mortage. Now how can I help your broke azz get to my children’s level. Oh they all drive Mercedes as well. I’m sure my poodle’s dog house is bigger than yours. Like I said let me know and you can Park your house on wheels in my garage. I understand your frustration cause COCIANE IS A HELLOFVA DRUG I’m RICH BI*CH

By Camden Cat

November 25, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Saw number 7 for Woodstock play and saw him in a little interview. He seems like a good natured humble kid. Might have heart…..might be tough to stop….

By Goober

November 25, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

To my dear friend BrookFan:

Goober here. It’s been a while since I chimed in. My team’s not in it either, and they haven’t been for a while. I feel for you, bro. Like you, I tried to steam up those southren boys a bit with the same kind of trash talk. It didn’t work. They just laughed at you, then at each other.

Bit of advice for you, bud. Just stay out of it. Sometimes we have to just bite our tongues, until our teams can bet us back in it. With that comes the right to brag and blog, at least up in the top tier. All you’ve done here is make yourself the target, and man did you ever make yourself a big one. The stuff about black trash went way over the line, and you really need to retract it and show what a man you are.

Remember, if you go back far enough, we all came from nothing, even you.

To you and my fellow bloggers: Please, don’t write or respond to this trash talk anymore. At least for the rest of this week, let’s keep it clean. Thanksgiving is coming in two more days, and every single one of us, no matter how much or little money or pigmentation we have, and no matter how good or bad our teams are, has a brain and a heart, and we’re all children of God. And we are so blessed to live in the greatest country in the history of the world.

Peace and prosperity to each of you and your teams as we celebrate God’s blessings this week. I pray every one of you, your coaches, players, fans, bands, cheerleaders, and everyone enjoy God’s blessings and safety this weekend and beyond.

OK, let the (clean) fun resume!

By K

November 25, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Jeff, I think it is simply that Valdosta is football. It’s like that in a lot of other South GA communities too, but Valdosta is just one of the biggest. The kids grow up with football as the number one sport, and it is what a lot of them grow to love. My oldest son can’t wait until he is playing at Martin Stadium, and I think it’s the same with most of these kids.

By AVikingFan

November 25, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Adding to Yo’s post to Jeff Speaking of how many players Lowndes had to return from last year’s state AAAAA champs. Our offensive line, center, both guards, both tackles, tight end, QB, and FB will return NEXT year, along with two wingbacks with extensive experience, both are sophomores now, the number 2 and number 4 fastest players on our team. Our starting center broke his arm before the Coffee game, and we had to move a back up linebacker to guard, and our starting guard to center. (That new center slowed down the center-QB exchange, and we were a little awkward at Coffee and Warner Robins, with the new center exchange and all. But after Luella and Bradwell, the new center is really doing a great job.) Our defense won’t return as many players next year as the offense (I think 6 are returning) so that means out of our starting 22, 15 will be back next year, if the math I previously learned on this blog was correct. What I’m saying is, Grayson, you ain’t got much of a chance, and our opponents next year won’t either. And the good folks writing on this blog will have us Lowndes fans to contend with another year!

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Go Wildcats!!!

By InBred

November 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Jeff:

Ain’t but one reason we’re so good, dude: It’s because we’re a bunch of back-assward, country-bumpkin, ignorant, stupid, drunken, redneckish, inbred, toothless, shoeless, clueless, lard-butt, rifle-toting, God-loving, incestuous, sister-loving, dirtballs, and all we have to do is sit around and watch TV (some of us even have cable) smoke cheap cigs, drink till we drunk, and sleep with our cousins and farm animals. Speaking of which, cain’t wait to get my hands on Brook Fan.

This ain’t no sociology class, son. If you want that, go to Harvard and see that stupid SOB who posted earlier. We’ll just kick your butts, and let you figger out why and how.

By Bears Fan

November 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Griffin will get revenge for the 1990 ‘Fog Bowl’ at SW Dekalb this weekend. GO BEARS!!!

By BrookFan

November 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Goob, where the heck have you been you 40-chromo-homo. I see you’re showing your sensitive side today. I can just hear that Indigo Girls music in the background, Goob, you man-lovin’ lesbian.

And, hurricanecamden, don’t you have a bedpan to clean dear (oh, that’s not pleasant). Lawn jockey - that was a bit harsh, more like stable boy. Yeah, stable boy.

By NHS

November 25, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

BrookFan You got a problem with the military? You’d better thank God every night that they are keeping your azz free. And, your racial comments are not wanted either.

By td

November 25, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

BigBoy - I believe that it was pooring rain during the Newnan/EC game. Plus, never over analyze cross-town rivalries.

By Wolverine Fan

November 25, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Anyone know what type turf they have at Camden HS?

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Just got on here and saw all this nonsense that this brookfan guy is spewing out of his mouth. None of this is intended to cause someone to go insanely nuts like this guy has obviously done. It is supposed to be in good sportsmanship BUT since this man has obviously lost it then I say he just needs someone to beat the dogsh— out of him and put him out of his misery

By Vike-King

November 25, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Are you still there, BrookFan?

If so, please enlighten us … what is a “Sowega” or “Sowega-ite”? Don’t know whether that’s an insult or a compliment. I know I’m ignorant, but I didn’t know I was stupid, too. Dayem! You smart-a* city boys get me every time.

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Friday We have the best turf that money can buy. You will see friday.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Chris Milman stadium uses FieldTurf, like at Ga Tech, Nebraska and Michigan, along with 21 NFL teams. It is supposed to be softer than real grass and has fewer injuries.

By Jeff

November 25, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

The real Jeff did not post the previous comment about BrookFan, although I agree with it.

By P Ridge

November 25, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Coffee fans: we dont care if your unbeaten on the road. its gonna be hard to coe to our house and beat us on our field in the third round of playoffs. we will be playing harder than ever

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

BrookFan Nurse Aides like your moma clean bedpans. My dog have some left over filet mignon would you like some? I bet you are a Wal-Mart greeter. Lay off the drugs dude COCAINE IS A HELLOFVA DRUG! Your stuff is probably home grown! LOL You are in IGNORE.

By The Fake Jeff

November 25, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

To Jeff, real or fake:

First, don’t bother concerning yourself with someone else posting under your name, if indeed that happens. See, this blog like all others allows one to post under many names. You could be me, or me you, or even BrookFan could be Coach Conn, or AVikingFan could be Coach McPherson. If you are really concerned about someone else capturing and using your blog name, you have a real serious problem in dealing with the realities of the web world.

Second, whether it’s you or the so-called other Jeff (your alter ego, maybe?), it’s called Chris GILMAN (not Milman) Stadium, and though I don’t live there (or do I) and I am not a Camden fan (or am I?), it is one of the nicest high school stadiums in GA.

By Gomer

November 25, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Jeff / Jeff1 / Jeff2, etc:

There are no copyrights here, pal. Neither you nor anyone else named Jeff can call yourself the “real” Jeff or claim that name for yourself. Or maybe you think you’re the only Jeff in the world?

By Wolverine Fan

November 25, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Hey hurricanecamden…do you wanna fight Friday night?

By Proud Vet

November 25, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

I am addressing the moron who calls himself brookfan, I have no idea what caused you to go off on this tirade, attacking people of color and those who you consider to be less intelligent than you. Frankly, I dont care what motivates you but I do care about this country and when you start rambling about our military then I have a major problem with you. My father and brothers served this country for over 20 years each. I too am a proud veteran. MY oldest son is currently in Iraq with the United States Marines. Our military protects worm s** like you and gives you the very freedoms that you are exercising right now. Maybe you should show a little appreciation, better yet , why dont you raise your right arm and swear to defend and protect…maybe the military could teach you a thing or two.

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Back to football talk. Lowdnes/Grayson game is the game of the week. (No disrespect to any other teams) Is it correct that this game will be on tv?

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan fight who?

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Proud Vet place that fool on ignore as the rest of us has. Drugs do that to you. And since his drugs are home grown, definately put him on ignore.

By slalom1

November 25, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

Granger80, GREAT post. I totally concur. Like you I am pulling for the Cougars as well as the Griffin Bears. And of course my beloved Grangers. Guess you have heard that we lost yet another key player due to suspension. Regardless, I like the Grangers’ chances against Dunwoody. Sorry for getting off on the wrong foot several weeks ago. Just thought you were an imposter. Now I know you are legit. Furthermore, now that I know who you are, you have done great things for LG through the years. Do not worry, I will NOT mention names. Keep up the good work.

By Drago

November 25, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

OK Bigboy, The Newnan v ec game was played in a downpour for about half the game. This is a rivalry game and the two teams don’t really care for each other. Throw in ec retiring that Falcon linebacker that went to tek jersey, and ec came out and played the best game they had played all year. Newnan did not play particularly well on the offensive side of the ball. ec lost their best player (my opinion) after the Newnan game to a shoulder injury. He started at WR and DB—so it was like losing two players. He was also their kick returner and number 1 special teams player. I think if this player plays against BI, ec wins the game.

By Wolverine Senior

November 25, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Camden Cat Take it you were watching FOX 5 this morning. I was in the stands freezing my but off with one of the hands. But Trotter (7) is a good kid. All Honors/AP classes, Mr. WHS, and has been QB sense atleast 7th grade. The guy can handle pressure. We’re not going to be as much of a push over as people are saying.

Jeff I do hate to break it to you but I do belive that when Woodstock wins friday over Camden will be the biggest upset. Also Athens and Clarke are the same school.

By Drago

November 25, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Granger80, most Newnan fans are pulling for the Grangers. However, pulling for griffin is just not in me. Seems to be an unnatural act and it doesn’t get that cold around. here. Neutrality is as far as I will go.

By slalom1

November 25, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

SGT CHRIS, Good point. I could be wrong, but I believe that the Grangers are the ONLY team to score a TD against the Newnan Cougar’s #1 defense the entire season. The Cougars are simply that good. Had the Grangers’ defense not blown coverage on 3 plays, we could have had a nail biter in Game 1. But never mind that. Newnan was the better team. They would have found a way to win. As for the current Granger offense, which is basically an offense which is about 5 weeks old after the suspension of QB Gunsby, the injury of John Jackson, and the move from receiver to QB for Rodney Tolbert, the Granger coaching staff has done an amazing job of keeping this team competitive. If the Grangers do not beat themselves against Dunwoody, I like their chances. Also, like Granger 80 said, I believe this Newnan team is the best I have seen to come from Coweta Co. The Grangers have a shot. But, it is a LONG shot. Newnan on the other hand has the talent, depth, and coaching to take on the best in the state or even the nation in 2008. Good for them. Go Cougars and Grangers.

By Camden Cat

November 25, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Senior don’t think you’re going to be a pushover….just have to go with my team. You understand? That would be an upset if you beat Camden. I just hope the Camden players are fired up for this one…as I know they are. :)

By Drock08

November 25, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

To Big Boy I agree with Drago post. Its like questioning lowndes for beating Valdosta by 7. Also the kid from E.C Jeric Woodall is a beast and the Indians would’ve beat Bradwell if he was there. Coach Cronic mention to me last year he is their most talented player since All-Stater Karsten Bailey left the reservation. Its like losing a Greg Reid if you were Lowndes it would really hurt because he is so talented on both sides of the ball.

By Drock08

November 25, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

To Slalom01 I hope that the Cougars Bears and Grangers all be in the Dome this year. Also every coach knows the Grangers are hard to beat when the playoffs start so I give you guys a slight edge over Dunwoody this year.

By slalom1

November 25, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Drago, Apparently you and I go way back together when “old Region 6AAAA” was intact. LaGrange, Griffin, Newnan and Morrow went at it throat to throat. We sort of took turns kicking each other’s butts. Like you, my passion for Griffin is somewhat jaded, but still the tradition runs deep. Wish I could turn back the hands of time to those days. Like you, I believe that LaGrange and Newnan fans share a common thread in the fact that we are close neighbors, and sort of like brothers. I believe I speak for the majority of LaGrange fans in saying that we are pulling for the Cougars in 2008. This Cougar team is good. VERY good. In fact, the best Cougar team I have ever seen. This is THE year for the NEWNAN COUGARS. They have what it takes.

By HSBallfan

November 25, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

It’s too bad this blog has deteriorated to the point where it screams for a moderator. Discussing football, even a little good natured boasting is fine. But I for one have lost interest in seeing some of these people emptying their bladders onto their keyboards. I have better things to do with my time. Todd, get control of this thing.

By Wolverine Senior

November 25, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Camden Cat Gotcha. I’m not going to lie. I am pumped for Friday. Think both teams and fans are going to go insane for this game.

By BODOG

November 25, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

HEY BROOKFAN I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU EITHER. I AM A VET, AND IF YOUDISLIKE THE COUNTRY WE CALL AMERICA THEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF PLANES LEAVING NOW……I WOULD SUGGEST YOU GET ON ONE IUF THAT’S ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY ON THIS BLOG……WHICH BY THE WAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL……WHICH MOST OF US THAT USE THIS BLOG REALLY ENJOY…..THANKS TO TODD FOR THE WORK HE DOES, AND ALL YOU OTHER TRUE AMERICANS THAT LOVE YOUR COUNTRY HAPPY THANKSGIVING……….GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY ON FRIDAY……….

By slalom1

November 25, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

TODD HOLCOMB, Todd, you disappointment me. You are beginning to sound like the GHS football version of the BCS. Look, TODD, this is simple: In AAAAA it is going to be Newnan vs. Lowndes. In AAAA, it will most likely be Westside against whoever. AAA is somewhat tougher. Cairo or Carver will be there. By the same token, either Baldwin, Dunwoody or LaGrange will be there. In AA it will be Buford and Brooks Co. In A, NOBODY beats ECI. Do you concur?

By Todd Holcomb

November 25, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd, I told you three weeks ago not to take coffee county too lightly. I also said that there would be several teams that would take us lightly and regret that they did so. I know that the playoffs are only in the third round but you have to give props to our team and coaching staff, we have went a lot farther than you ever thought.

I wouldn’t say Coffee has gone better than I ever thought. I had Coffee ranked most of the season, starting three weeks earlier than the AP did. Coffee was as high as No. 7.

But congrats to Coffee. Coach Eldridge is the only first-year coach in the Class AAAAA quarters, I believe. And this is Coffee’s first QF since 1982 in the days of Pulpwood Smith.

By mrsmithinthacity

November 25, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

wolverine senior i just dont see it.CAMDEN is the USC of GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL.CAMDEN has played in the big games and won.WOODSTOCK is just happy to be here.CAMDEN is looking for another state title and their about business. HOPE UR GONNA BE THERE.CAUSE ITS LIKE NOTHING U EVER SEEN BEFORE IN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL HOMIE

By 1 5 A fan

November 25, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

Todd you are right,it is our 1st quarter final sence 82. And coach Eldridge is doing alot better than I expected a first year head coach to do in this region.

To P Ridge, Coffee is not taking you guys lightly at all. It will be a close game for both teams. Get ready for a good one.

GO TROJANS!!!

By slalom1

November 25, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Drock08, Are you not getting weary of these lopsided Newnan wins? You did a great job with your voodoo last week against Tift. You even had me going for a few minutes. But look, you do not need voodoo anymore. The Cougars have answered the BIG question: “Are they for real?” Tift played Lowndes a 28-14 game. Even my bro YO emphasized what a phsyically tough team Tift was. Apparently not for the Newnan Cougars. The challenge for the Cougars now is playing EACH game as the teams in 1AAAAA play every week in the regular season. ANYONE can take you to the woodshed. Can the Cougars stay on top of their game each week? I believe they can. Robert Herring knows how to keep his team focused. Newnan 35 N. Gwinnett 7.

By mrsmithinthacity

November 25, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

NEWNAN VS LOWNDES 5A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.NAW THATS A NEGATIVE!!!!!!! WE ALL KNOW WE WANNA SEE CAMDEN VS LOWNDES THIS IS THE MATCH UP WE’VE BEEN WANTING TO SEE RATHER THAN ONE OF US PUTTING EACH OTHER OUT IN THE SEMIS LIKE ITS BEEN.THOSE ARE THE 2 BEST TEAMS IN THE STATE HANDS DOWN. BUT U KNOW WHAT I WILL PUT UP THE CHARLTON COUNTY INDIANS UP AGAINST GRAYSON,NEWNAN,AND WOODSTOCK AND WATCH THE INDIANS SCALP SOME HEADS.TRUST WHEN I SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!!! CAMDEN COUNTY WILDCATS #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By SportsFan31313

November 25, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

TrojanDudeSays: SportsFan31313 Thanks for your graciousness on the Coffee win last week.

Greetings Trojan Dude,

Your’e welcome. A game very well deserved. I predicted Coffee and Lowndes County would be the only two to make it out this past week and advance on to the Quarter Finals.

I have a lot of Respect for Coffee County even since the Pulpwood Smith days. Coffee has always had a pretty good team.

As I stated also Stated before, and I may get a lot of flack from this statement: South Georgia has better football teams than most of the Metro Atlanta Schools.

Every now and then, they will sneak one in there, but mostly the Champion Teams comes from South Georgia.

Now this week, Coffee County will face a Peachtree Ridge. I really don’t know too much about them. But I will say that Most of the Metro Atlanta Schools are over - rated. I was leaning towards Coffee County beating Peachtree Ridge, but Coffee County travels to play Peachtree Ridge.

I will say that even though I think that the majority of those Metro Atlanta Schools are over-rated, Peachtree Ridge didn’t get this far by playing poorly. They beat some over rated ranked teams as well.

With that being said, this game will come down to who execute the best. Coffee has a great defense. If they can control the ball and play great defense, they will win. But playing on Peachtree Home Turf will be tough in addition to a loud fan base.

I wish Coffee well. I’m rooting for you.

By Reeze

November 25, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1….. Strange being out of the playoff mix this early……How do you think your Grangers will handle Dunwoody?…..Newnan is better than we thought yes ,but is the jury still out?….Nothing against Tift ,but squashing Tift’s spread offense wasn’t too difficult for Northside or Brooks,both these matchups were over at half time also….What do you think?

By LowndesCountyFan

November 25, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

Apparently all the tickets Lowndes has been allotted have been sold . I called this morning they went on sale supposedly today & i was told that by 11:am they were sold out! Anybody Know what Channel on Mdeiacom Cable the game will be Broadcast? or any Locations in the Valdosta area that will Have the game?

By SportsFan31313

November 25, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

Thomas S. WHS FAN Says: We will dominate Camden County in ANOTHER unexpected victory, just watch for our #7 Trotter, #1 Justin Thompson, and coach of the year Mike O’Brien lighting up the scoreboard Friday night. If Woodstock makes it to the Dome, then everyone put your money on our boys.

Greetings Thomas S,

I admire your support for your Woodstock Team, but unfortunately if you really think that Woodstock would beat Camden County, you’re in for a rude awakening. Woodstock has done very well playing against the over-rated Metro Atlanta Teams and have pulled off a stunning Victory in the 1st round.

But lets keep it in it’s perspective. Woodstock maybe good but Camden County is great. You will definitely see this coming Friday. Your Woodstock Football team is not match for Perinnial Power Camden County.

By LowndesCountyFan

November 25, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

I know the Grayson fans have been bragging about thier linebackers but having read that & seeing the Northside defense with the studs they had & how easily lowndes ran around & through them, its a lot harder to make a play when the ball fakes have misdirected the player even for just a few seconds! Besides 4.4 speed on a track doesn’t always translate to that kind of speed on a football field.Im still predicting *35 -10 Lowndes *

By Band Mom Gone Wild

November 25, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

For those of you complaining about the Finals being played in the Dome, let me remind you about the 2006 finals that were played at McEachern. “They” (not sure who they are) oversold the game by hundreds of seats. People were standing in the stands in front of everyone else, blocking their view, getting in peoples’ way. There were adult people there who weren’t fans of either team… they were just there because it was the “finals”. I’ll bet they were also the same “grown-ups” who found it necessary to tail gate before the game and come into the stadium absolultely hammered… three sheets to the wind… schnockered. (Very disgraceful and totally unnecessary considering it was a high school football game.) It was a nightmare.

Anywho… I definitely think that having the finals in the Dome makes more sense because of the number of people that can fit there. I know that when P’tree Ridge gets there we’ll fill more than half of the doggone stadium!!

Just want to take a second and wish the P’tree Ridge Marching Band a safe journey as they’re on their way to Philly to play in the Thanksgiving Day parade up there and then spend a couple of days in NYC! The game on Friday night sure is going to be different without you there! We’ll miss you!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LIONS!

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Senior you are suppose to think that your team is the best, nothing wrong with it. I hope you come to the game. We have tons of fun down here. The trash talk is friendly. I sit on the visitors side all the time. I will be on the 50 yard line with my Camden gear on. GOOOO CATSSSS!

By Reeze

November 25, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

Coffee comes out a plays 4 quarters of football they’ll beat anyone…If I were Coffee’s coach the big wideout Bennett would be an all-American candidate by now…I am the only one who feels Coffee is too cautious on offense?

By Todd Holcomb

November 25, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

Todd, our definition of Metro must be different. I didn’t count Rossville, Athens, Clarke, Lagrange, or Griffin. Point well taken, I trust your count over mine any day! So that reduces the dominance level to about 50/50 between North and South, with Middle holding their own.

I’m not count those schools. There are 19 from Fulton, Gwinnett, DeKalb, Cobb and Clayton counties.

Keep in mind that I’m not arguing for metro Atlanta or North Georgia in this debate, just making sure the facts are straight. Per capita, football has been stronger in South Georgia since the 1950s.

Here are the 19 metro teams to win in the highest class since 1947, when the GHSA began running the playoffs:

2006 - Peachtree Ridge

2006 - Roswell

2002 - Parkview

2001 - Parkview

2000 - Parkview

1997 - Parkview

1996 - Brookwood

1995 - SW DeKalb

1993 - Dunwoody

1987 - Morrow

1972 - Lakeside

1970 - Lakeside

1967 - Marietta

1963 - Avondale

1957 - Northside (of Atlanta)

1953 - Grady

1952 - Murphy

1950 - Decatur

1949 - Brown

Note: Boys High or Tech High of Atlanta won 12 of the last 15 titles in the old GIAA, the association for the largest Georgia schools that gave way to the GHSA in 1947. Also, Atlanta teams won the highest class of the all-black GIA 8 of 18 times until 1966, when they joined the GHSA.

By its on

November 25, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Jim, you said, you were from Camden. As you know, Camden has travel plenty times to Atl. and won. We play for home field just like everyone else.2-5A didn’t won a game in the playoff with home field. 4-5A didn’t go far either, so be happy we don’t have to travel right now

By SportsFan31313

November 25, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

AVikingFan Says: Jeff, ask ENR and sportsfan31313 about how crow tastes after losing to Lowndes after one whole week of telling everybody Lowndes didn’t have a chance.

Greetings VikingFan,

I never said that Lowndes County didn’t have a chance. I never discounted Lowndes County at all. I always stated that it would be a tall order for Bradwell Institute to come to Lowndes County to just give them a close game.

I was hoping that Bradwell would have given Lowndes County a closer game, but it did’nt. They did do better the 2nd half as oppose to the 1st half.

But make no mistakes here…… Grayson will NOT beat Lowndes County. They can’t keep up with the speed that Lowndes County possess.

No disrespect to Coffee County or Newnan. But it will be Lowndes County Region 1-AAAAA vs Camden County Region 3-AAAAA for the 2008 Class AAAAA State Title.

By LowndesCountyFan

November 25, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

so since * 1949 * almost * 60 years * 41 out of 60 have been won by teams other than Metro Atlanta Area teams? * Hey Todd * Out of those 60 how many have been by teams South of the Macon Area in the Highest classification? I’d wgaer it’s more than 2-1 for teams from the southern area of the State which would buttress the Arguement that the Southern teams play a little bit better brand of football don’tcha think?

By Gamer

November 25, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

HurricaneCamden please be bigger than BrookFan. You are a professional women— so act like one and not lower your standards. This back and forth is not good business for the blog. Congrats—I always thought you were a guy. Now, I know who you are at the games while on the visitor’s side. Take Care!

By HoyaDawg

November 25, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

I just read where someone said Coffee is not taking PR lightly. Who in the heck, does Coffee think they are? Remember coffee, you are a number 4 seed in a region that has already had two teams to get there buts sent home. I have said all year, and will say again, Region 1AAAAA is over rated. You ride the coattails of Lowndes, who is legit. The rest of you are pretenders. Coffee will not score on PR. Lowndes may beat grayson, but they will not beat the Ridge.Lowndes, shut-up about how many people wil this or that stadium seat. You are letting success go to your head. Go play football, and stand on your big ego feet. Grayson might pull this one out. Homet. why do you have to hate on a team, just because they kicked your paulding county azz. It shows that you are a bad sport, and reminds me of all that crap we had to put up with all year, after we spaked yall all over the field.

By HoyaDawg

November 25, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

I vote for O’brian for coach of the year in 5AAAAA

By SportsFan31313

November 25, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

To All Bloggers,

We all recognize BrookFan’s repugnant comments. I am sure we all recognize BrookFan’s species of character. Now that his team has laced up their strings to play basketball because his team has been long gone out of the picture, he has decided to raise his skirt, and drop his hood to show everyone how he really look, and sound. BrookFan looks and sound like a FOOL. Let’s not respond to anymore of BrookFan’s worthless comments. They’re meaningless, and unwarranted. Now back to some REAL COMMENTS. ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?

By football watcher

November 25, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

NEWNAN vs N Gwinett, biggest game of the week. Re-match from last year. COME ON AJC GIVE NEWNAN SOME INK. WE ARE 3RD IN THE STATE !!!!!

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this

Gamer as you can see that conversation stopped for me a long time ago. We are here to talk about football. That is what intend to do. Yes I will be on the vistor’s side on the 50 yard line about 4 rows up. I love Friday Night Lights in Camden. I talk a bunch of crap like a guy eh? (no offense guys)My so play on the team. I have to support my wildcats. Go Big Blue!!!

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

My son play on the team. Sorry about the typo i’m on this blackberry.

By Yo

November 25, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

HoyaDawg take your top 8 from your region and pair em up against 1AAAAA. 1 seed on 1 seed, 2 seed on 2 seed, etc. Then call 1AAAAA overrated. Can you say 1AAAAA 8-0 against your region? You better believe it. To be fair we could play them all in the dome on your home turf. Not only would we beat you to death we would turn out more mourners than you to mourn your funerals. Unfortunately this will not happen but oh how much fun it would be on our end. Peachtree Ridge is the #1 seed from their region going against our #4 seed. The fact that Coffee is even considered close to a toss up says a lot. How would your #1 or the region of Peachtree Ridge match up against 1AAAAA #1 seed?

By TrojanDude

November 25, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this

Reeze

It is highly possible that Coffee’s big, leaping wide receiver Bennet would be in the running for All-American status if the coaching staff had concentrated on utilizing him more. You gotta know though. If that had happened Coffee would have been ran out of 1AAAAA on a rail. The Trojan passing attack is not a one man show but it would have had to be exceptional with more personnel gifted in the passing attack for Bennett to have gathered those honors while the team benefited overall. As it is he’s close to 100 yards per game while drawing a corner and the safety on most pass and ground plays. Most folks don’t know he’s an accomplished Q’Back with 2-3 for touchdowns this year. I’m not sure.

It’s hard to ignore a running game that can be counted on for an average of a little over 5 yrds per attempt. That’s where Coffee’s confidence is. If you have seen Coffee you have seen their big fullback Loving carry two thirds of the opposing team 10-12 yards multiple times per game. (Except against Lowndes that is). Couple that with Coffee’s production utilizing the veer and it’s obvious where their core strengths are. Coffee’s quarterback, though very good through the air, truly shines running the veer. Coffee’s O-Line is big, fast and smashmouth. More conducive to the run and getting downfield than the pass.

Good observation though. Word around here is that the continuing dialog between Between Bennett and South Carolina indicate he has a good chance of considerable playing time his first year

By SportsFan31313

November 25, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this

AVikingFan Says: CHRIS WHITFIELD Your challenge to ENR has gone unanswered. Maybe we should ask sportsfan31313 to just explain a few things about the facts of life to Jeff.

What would you like me to tell Jeff?

If Jeff really thinks that Grayson will beat Lowndes County, then Georgia Regional has a bed for him waiting.

Grayson is no match for this Power House of Lowndes County. Lowndes County wins easily. Lowndes County, beat Grayson down. “LET THE PARAMEDICS SORT EM OUT” !!!!

By Wolverine Senior

November 25, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

Hurricanecamden I’m def coming to the game. I’ll come by and say hey. Hope ya’ll are ready for a fight cuz we bringing the woodshed!!!

WOODSTOCK!!! YOU KNOW!!!

By SportsFan31313

November 25, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

Hey Everybody,

Where is EagleNationRising? Since this past Friday, no one has heard from him. I guess his Rooster Crows are softer now.

By slalom1

November 25, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

REEZE, Great to hear from you and also great to hear your question regarding the 2008 Grangers. But, from the top you remember what a huge supporter of NSWR I was in 2007. One of THE great teams to ever grace the playing fields in GHS football. In 2008, I believe that you and I both felt that while the NSWR defense could play with THE best in any clasification, the offense was somewhat suspect. Regardless, Coach Nix and his staff did a great job of (in your own words) “having those kids ready to play”. And they were. Great coaching job. And, NSWR belongs in AAAAA. Sure, they have the smallest enrollment in AAAAA (if I am reading my numbers right), but they can still repeat as state champs in the near future, and I believe they will. As for LaGrange, I cannot recall a year with so many disappointments. Suspensions, injuries, etc. At mid season I would have bet the ranch that the Grangers were a lock to win AAA and could have competed well with the best in any classification. Then came the loss of Gunsby, a 6’5 220.lb. JR. QB with unbelievable athletic ability. Then lost John Jackson, arguably the quickest player on the team with great hands. I will spare you the details but the Grangers have at one point in the season been without no less than 9 play makers on both sides of the ball. They are crippled on offense. And now after losing “Pokey” Merritt at Will LB(6’4 210) the defense is also compromised. Regardless, I believe that this may be the finest hour for the Granger’s coaching staff. How they have won any games since the loss of Gunsby amazes me. As for Dunwoody, I like the Grangers’ chances. If they do not beat themselves on turnovers and penalties, the Grangers win. REEZE, I remember in pre-season how you brought up the lame effort by the Grangers in 2007 against Perry. You were right. They WERE lame. Some of the suspensions that have haunted the Grangers in 2007 are still haunting them in 2008. But, I like the corp of this 2008 Granger team. We have lost more starters than I can ever remember in a single season. Yet when one goes down, someone else rises up. (Maybe not quite as good, but close.)Really wanted to see a re-match between NSWR and Lowndes. That Reid kid is a nuisance.Keep the faith, REEZE and thanks for asking about the Grangers.

By Cat-titude Means "A$$-Whoopin

November 25, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

Camden County is going to put a whooping on Woodstock. No question my boyz from Kingsland will win by at least 35-13.

hurricanecamden, if you’re a nurse, I’m not sick. Try to get that subject-verb agreement, then ask if you can draw all of BrookFan’s blood.

By slalom1

November 25, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

YO, How do like the performance of the Newnan Cougars against Tift? YO, take this and run with it: It IS going to be Newnan vs. Lowndes in the final. Camden may have something to say about things before all is said and done, but I don’t see Camden having anything for Lowndes or Newnan.

By TrojanDude

November 25, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

HoyaDawg

I just read where someone said Coffee is not taking PR lightly

Hey Dawg Man. That was a pretty confusing post big guy. Think I know what you meant though. Your post went on to say Coffee would be foolish to take P’Ridge lightly… Though some ranting Trojan fan may have said P’Ridge was being taken lightly, believe me, that person is ignorant and has been influenced by the plethora of trash-talking going on in this blog. Everyone down here is very serious about P-Ridge We know our record in the playoffs. The Trojans have blown noone out and P’Ridge will probably be the best North Georgia group we will have encountered when everything shakes out. The CHHS game was a big time wild affair. The score did not reflect the closeness of the Chapel Hill game. Most fans feel that compared to first round Stephenson, the Panthers were by far the most dangerous group of young men.

No man. There is no cockyness down here. Maybe guarded confidence. But nothing but high regard for Peachtree. Don’t be influenced by one ignorant brayer.

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

Wolverine Senior Hey I seen yall lil woodshed on Fox 5. Neat. But yall will be walking into DEATH VALLEY or THE EYE OF THE STORM “HURRICANE CAMDEN” you choose. LOL I Look forward to a great time on Friday.

By inthatrenches

November 25, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

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By Todd Holcomb

November 25, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

so since * 1949 * almost * 60 years * 41 out of 60 have been won by teams other than Metro Atlanta Area teams? * Hey Todd * Out of those 60 how many have been by teams South of the Macon Area in the Highest classification? I’d wgaer it’s more than 2-1 for teams from the southern area of the State which would buttress the Arguement that the Southern teams play a little bit better brand of football don’tcha think?

I agree that South Georgia historically has played ”a little bit better brand of football,” but unfortunately, those numbers aren’t proof of it.

Those 19 teams I listed are just metro. They don’t include the other ”North Georgia” champions — Rossville (2), LaGrange (3), Athens/Clarke Central (4), Griffin (1).

If my math is correct, here’s the breakdown -

North Georgia - 29

Middle Georgia - 8 (includes Warner Robins)

South Georgia - 28 (23 of those from Lowndes County)

However, those numbers are deceiving because most of larger schools historically have been in the North. That’s why I always say ”per capita” when discussing the South’s edge in football tradition.

The advantage in numbers that the North has is especially true now, but it also was very pronounced in the 1940s and 1950s.

In 1948, there were only five South Georgia teams in the highest classification - Moultrie, Glynn Academy and three Savannah schools.

In 1958, when Valdosta moved up, there were still only nine (much like today).

But by 1968, there were 22. In 1978, it had grown to 26.

But even in the ’70s and ’80s, when South Georgia had lots of teams, the South was still only one-quarter of the state in the highest class. You had the Savannah-area schools, and you had Region 1-AAAA. That was South Georgia.

Middle Georgia had two regions, and North Georgia had two regions, typically.

So for one-quarter or the state to win that many titles is pretty impressive, especially when you consider South Georgia didn’t win its first until 1959 w/ Albany. The South has won (or shared) 28 of the last 49 state titles in the big class.

But today, things have reverted to what we saw in the ’40s and ’50s, where South Georgia was largely out-numbered. There are only about 8 legitimate Class AAAAA teams in South Georgia now. That’s like it was in the ’50s, when North Georgia teams dominated.

That’s why I wrote the article a year ago speculating that North Georgia might begin to dominate again - not because there’s better football in the Nort. There’s just so many more teams.

But the South Georgia teams are proud, with a wealth of tradition, talent and coaching. I don’t see its demise coming soon.

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

LOL Cat-titude I love it! Brookfan’s blood is no use to anybody. I took a knife to his jugular earlier and now he’s dead like that team of his. When I stuck him he only bled incest and cocaine!

By TrojanDude

November 25, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

ATLANTA JOURNAL REPRESENTATIVE

Get off you butt and block Brookfan from this blog. Other bloggers on this site are repulsed and shocked that you would allow this to go on. This is your responsibility!!! DO YOUR JOB!

A representative came on the weekend blog and layed down the law for much, much less outrageous and offensive behavoir that Brookfans ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION IS REPRESENTING ITSELF VERY IRRESPONSABLY!

By YisIT

November 25, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Grayson why is it that your number #16 is so great, and everyone here from the Grayson community is giving him the game if Grayson pulls it off, but hes not good enough to be named as one of the all county players on your ourvarsity.com? And why hasn’t he ever made player of the week on your web site? Just wondering if hes been given to much credit here, or if hes really that good and the coaches don’t respect him or what. How can you all say he is the best and only D-1 player on the team and not be mentioned in anything? If he is good enough to be a winning factor on your team and does not get credit for it, then if I were him, I wouldn’t want to play for Grayson. Whats up?

By inthatrenches

November 25, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Todd the brackets back in the day had North vs North and South vs South then a state championship or am I mistaken?? I ‘m not old enough to know but it seems that there was North Ga Champions vs South Ga Champs? Would that dilute the scenario now because of the abundance of North Georgia Teams?? even the current teams show a North Georgia advantage as far as number of teams playing in the AAAAA bracket??

By Wolverine Senior

November 25, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Hurricane Camden We’ve been to bone yards and had cannons shot off at us and still have come out victorious. We’ve had mist/fog cover the field so you couldn’t see the opposite stands much less endzone to endzone. And we’ve fought in the freezing cold when it snowed and still come out on top. Our guys took so many teams to the woodshed we broke one of the doors off of it. RELEASE THE FURY OF THE WOODSHED!!!! We shall walk into the “eye of Hurricane Camden” and will emerge with another W behind Trotter, Thompson, Haley and Tyler “The Knock-Out” Knighton.

By BrookFan

November 25, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

(weeping bitter tears of sorrow, as his blogging lifeblood slowly drains from him…)

Alas, help is on the way as baseball season is just around the corner. BrookFan seems to recall Lowndes being in the cellar and Camden, well, not doing so hot, either.

(BrookFan wonders who won state AAAAA baseball title last year…hmmm)

By Reeze

November 25, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

Trojandude……I didn’t say that Coffee was a one man show..Aware of the running game…As I said you guys are the most balanced in the region….True Bennett scored twice on Northside ….The short TD in the endzone and the reverse,which was a busted coverage on defense….But as talented as he is he should have been utilized more….

By grayson ram

November 25, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

thats a good point… i agree but he really is a great player im not quite sure why he has no awards but i do know there was some sort of incident early in the season with injuries and other team issues but its all been straightened out and hopefully you to will agree win or lose he is a good player

By mrsmithinthacity

November 25, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

CAMDEN VS LOWNDES STATE CHAMPIONSHIP!!! CAMDEN 20 LOWNDES 14 CAMDEN COUNTY WILDCATS 2008 STATE CHAMPS

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

That woodshed sounded like tin to me. You haven’t met a team like the Wildcats or the atmosphere like Camden County. Bring the wood we may need it if it’s cold like it was last week.

By hurricanecamden

November 25, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Goodnight Sports Fans. Good Luck to all on Friday.

By Wolverine Senior

November 25, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

Hey BrookFan I hate to be the one to break this to you but this is a football blog. You dont see me boasting about our softball or shotput (sp?) state titles do yah? Stay on topic please and keep it in good nature like me and hurricane are.

By Todd Holcomb

November 25, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Todd the brackets back in the day had North vs North and South vs South then a state championship or am I mistaken?? I ‘m not old enough to know but it seems that there was North Ga Champions vs South Ga Champs? Would that dilute the scenario now because of the abundance of North Georgia Teams?? even the current teams show a North Georgia advantage as far as number of teams playing in the AAAAA bracket??

That was the format through 1989, when only the region champions made the state playoffs. If you still had that, you might see a metro Atlanta team being called ‘South Georgia champion” due to the scarcity of true South Georgia teams. But that happened before 1989, also. In 1969, North Springs — which is in North Fulton County — was the ”South Georgia champion” and played Gainesville for the championship.

By inthatrenches

November 25, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

Brookfan this is a football forum spring training starts in the spring you know after winter and before summer C-ya then football loser!!! He He who is your finals pick and the winner? for football?

By Wolverine Senior

November 25, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

It sounds like tin because we line the inside of it with bleachers from stadiums we visit and tear down. Rumor has it that southern stadiums crash like the first thunder clap of a storm. They’ll be able to hear the Woodshed for miles around when we’re done with the wildcats.

By Drago

November 25, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this

Slolom 1 I go all the way back to 6 AAA when Washington, Price, and Therell were in the region. Nobody threw the ball and nobody defended it. Wishbone all over the place.

Bass was there, but he hadn’t earned the reputation yet.

By Ram Fan 21

November 25, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

All this trash talking is really turning into some kind of B.S. schoolyard crap and its getting old.. Why dont we all just let these two undefeated teams play the game before we crown a winner!! And all of this racial stuff is really a “NO CLASS” bunch of idiots that need to shut there trap!!

As for Brookfan… and all of the other’s on here that have fed his/her fire… get a life!!

By politics-of-football

November 25, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

YISit::: here’s the problem with #16, coach conn has no respect for him because his family doesnt put tons of money in the program and #16 has forgotten more about football then conn will ever know, he is 1 heck of a player and was starting QB @ sequoyeh high school when he was a freshman, he also trained with blair rivot who created the wing T O#… tell-ya what how can conn put him in when he needs big plays and give him no credit and how can every1 in gwinnett co think so highly of him and conn doesn’t give him any credit, doesn’t take much of an imagination to figure it out, #16 came to Grayson in 10th grd and has had to battle against the locals the last 2yrs, the players that have been player of the week and nominated for all county are grayson regulars and put tons of $$$ in it…. AND THAT MY FRIEND IS JUST THE FACT’S

By AVikingFan

November 25, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Hey Sportsfan31313. Hope to see ya at the dome finals. I’m staying at the Omni Friday and Saturday, and some of us have been discussing a little get together, sort of a blog reunion. Hopefully Chris and Todd can stop by. You interested? It’s been fun poking fun at each other this year. Wish ya’ll had been in another bracket and had gone further. Maybe we can meet again next year. Man, your big fullback is a hoss! And fast!

Jaybo from Thomasville, we need your help! Stay active on the blog.

By 1 5 A fan

November 25, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

Ok HoyaDawg & Trojan Dude, I said that Coffee WAS NOT taking P.R. lightly at all. Meaning that we expect it to be a close game for both teams. I could understand you boys rants a little more if I had said we was taking them lightly. Coffee doesnt expect anything except to play the game every down. We will play hard and we will play fast but that does not give us a win automaticly by any means. If I woeded that in such a way you two could not pick up on it I do apologize, I promise to type slower from now on. Remember, this is all supose to be fun.

By camdenwildcat

November 25, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

HURRICANE CAMDEN, WOULD YOU MARRY ME. I THINK YOUR TOUGHNESS IS SEXY. JUST A JOKE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, YOU ARE A GREAT FAN. SEE YA FRIDAY I NEVER MISS A GAME.

By Ram Fan 21

November 25, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

To: politics-of-football

Those are not FACTS my friend!! That is your oppinion!! Sounds to me like daddy is a little upset that #16 is not the star of the team anymore!! My Oppinion is that coach Conn does a fine job coaching these young men and teaching them all the there is no I in TEAM!! Have a great day and GO RAMS!!

By GraysonFan2

November 25, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

Hey, I sure hope this young man does not read this blog! Remember these are teenagers, and they have feelings. Could we please keep this about football and not be so personal?

Well I see what the talk is here all day. Good grief, were did the Brook person come from? I think we need to start this weeks blog all over again.

By Ram Fan 21

November 25, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

Your right GraysonFan2… I appologize for my comment.. I just wish that everyone would realize that it’s not all about I - ME and MY!!

By bigboy

November 25, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

OK Newnan fans one last comment on this but Lowndes beating Valdosta by 7 is a little different than Newnan barely beating E Coweta. Valdosta would crush Bradwell, heck the worst team in 1AAAAA Houston County beat Bradwell. A team that loses to Bradwell and bareley loses to Newnan doesn’t look good. I just don’t understand how they beat Tift so badly. I guess that is why they play the games.

By Vikes_Fan

November 25, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Will South Georgia get a chance to watch the game (Lowndes/Grayson) on TV or just the Atlanta area?

By P ridge

November 25, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

Thanks hoyadawg. i have nothing aainst coffee cause i have not really heard to much about yall but it should be a good game.

By TrojanDude

November 25, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

1 5 A fan

Hey buddy. I had looked back over the posts and didn’t see the post HoyaDawg was ranting on. It sounds like all three of us misunderstood in one way or another. If I had seen that it was your blog I wouldn’t have even had to read the entire thing. I would have known that it was way out of character for you.

You typed it right, The Dawgmiester read it wrong and I made the mistake of taking his word for it. I humbly retract any slurs I slung in your direction.

My Bad.

Hey Peachtree Ridge!! Hear that horn a blowin’? That’s a Trojan Train comin’ your way!!!

By coffeefan84

November 25, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

Hey TrojanDude, who was the Coffee linebacker that injured his eye? Had not heard anything about that?

By PRHS

November 25, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

TrojanDude: like i said before we are ready for yall. bring it on.

By GraysonFan2

November 25, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

ram fan 21,

Thanks, Im sure he doesn’t feel that way, from what my daughter says, he is a very nice guy, who has a hard time concentrating in school and is there to help the team win, and obviously do what he loves. I hope you young men have a great game!

By 1 5 A fan

November 25, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

Its not a problem Trojan Dude, this is all in fun. It may be posible that the kids on the teams are acting more grown up than us right now anyway. Lets ride that train till the last stop whatcha say??

By Newnan Dad 08

November 25, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

bigboy…Just a quick reply to your comment. Yes Newnan defeated EC only 12-0. It was a rivalry game, much the same as the Lowndes 14-7 victory vs. Valdosta. We are comparing apples to oranges on this. Let’s play the games!

By JAYBO

November 25, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

Avikingfan,

I’m still around….Go vikings!!!! You will blow grayson out friday night…don’t let me down…LOL!!! Also, lokking for BROOKS CO. to roll against Lovett!!

Hey All,

I was out on the golf course today, and didn’t log on until tonight….but this clown brookfan needs to be totally ignored!!! I don’t care what he posts about…football, baseball, farming, whatever…lets all just give no response to any of his posts!!!! This cat is the sickest person I have seen the two years I have been blogging…just a disgrace!!! And trojandude, your post to the AJC about this dude was dead on!!!! Friday is almost here, so lets keep talking football!!

By RealisticEP_Fan

November 26, 2008 1:54 AM | Link to this

GraysonFan2, Jeff, and GHS Student

Amazing. You have now found countless ways to win with OUT grace.

I have respect for the team, and the couches. But you bloggers, are just being idiots.

I give credit were credit is due, and also call it like I see it.

Was Grayson a better team,,yes that night and probably 7 out of 10 times this yes it would be true.

However it is the ridiclious statements that get me. “We only had 200 in the crowd”- BS, and you know it it was over 700 plus the band and you all know it. Your video was taken by a videoographer that got cold and was pointed only at the band section before the band arrived. If Lowndes is concerned about seating, I probably would say they shouldn’t be. The visitiors can see 1500,,,,and you are dreaming if you think you’ll have any more than that.

Grayson, fans, to say you disrespected us and that is why people didn’t come out to a ‘easy’ game as you call it,,,well then you are just idiots. Either you are a fan and you show up or you are and idiot and talk about the game later.

As far as the EP/Grayson game is concerned..Grayson won,,,I have not problem with that. To say it was EASY,,,,give me a break. You know it wasn’t.

For those bad mouthing #1 on our team,,,,Get a LIFE. He probably put your son on his a* and you didn’t like it.

In terms of Lowndes/Grayson..Initially I would have pulled for Grayson because they beat us………..HOWEVER…the bloggers here(not the team) have changed my opinion. I think neither Grayson nor EP(cause I lump them in the same category of at GOOD to VERY GOOD team), stand a chance against Lowndes. Your defense is probably a 7 or 8 from what I’ve seen EP face in the past 3 years. (Best has been Rome this year).

But here is the real story. The Grayson offense is very much a pop warner offense. Does it work yes. Is it one demension yes, did it beat EP, yes. Guess what,,,,,,,from what I’ve seen Lowndes’s offense is also a pop warner offense and similar to Grayson…On dimensional and predictable. Here in lies the differnece….Lowndes has more experience and more talent than Grayson. 11 on 11, will quickly turn Grayson’s offense into what it was part of the night aginst EP, a inept passing scheme with no athletes able to execute even the simplist of pass plays. The Grayson QB while gutsy,,,,,is a horrible thrower. He has no arm strength, and hits the dirt with any pass that involves his mobility or movement.

You know,,,do be on dimension is fine if you never have to use the second diminsion. EP saw that second ‘completely inept’ dimension, and my hunch is that while EP could not force Grayson into it very often,,,Lowndes will have the Grayson coaches scratching and searching for answwers early in the 2nd quarter.

Bottom line………..Grason 0 or maybe 7, and Lowndes between 28 and 45..and yes Lowndes will score first.

EP would have lost but made it funner game.

EP’s offense is what is coming for the future of GA. Grayson, Lowndes, Marist, Etowah…………keep your head in the sand and sooner rather than later you’ll realize that time are changing.l

Sorry the long post, but unless I”m really provoked I’ll sign off until the finals.

Best of Luck to Woodstock, and go Newnan, my pick to beat Lowndes in the final 28-24.

G

By Wolverine Fan

November 26, 2008 6:38 AM | Link to this

Who has Camden beat this year? Have they beat any contending teams. I heard the team they play are at best average teams?

By JAYBO

November 26, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Wolverine fan,

First off, I’m not a Camden fan, but am a fan and student of the game of football! I have been reading your posts all week and have admired your bravado(I guess I can call it that) and enthusiasim. But let me be straight up with you and cut to the chase….and I am not trying to offend you or any of your fans, but…..WOODSTOCK HAS NO CHANCE OF BEATING CAMDEN CO.!!!!! It is what is is….this game will be over by halftime and will end in a blowout….period, the end!!! It doesn’t matter about camden’s “weak region” or any of that, so don’t believe the hype!!! Camden is a great football team and you will see on friday night. Not hating on Woodstock…think you have had a wonderful season and your head coach has done a tremdous job, but its over!!!

By Drock08

November 26, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

To Hurricane Camden thanks for the earlier comments this week about the trajedy in Newnan. Also to Slalom I rather have a blow out than a close game anyday because you get a chance to rest starters but also give the back ups experience. To Big boy only time will tell how good Newnan or your team is but I like our chances against anybody. When the ajc did the 25 teams preview this year I said from day one this team was FOR REAL. This week predction Newnan 38-13 over N.Gwinnett

By JAYBO

November 26, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

My quarterfinal picks,

AA-Brooks Co., Calhoun, Buford, Fitz

AAA-Cairo, Carver, Baldwin, Lagrange

AAAA-Westside, Griffin, Marist, Statesboro

AAAAA-Lowndes, Coffee, Camden Co., Newnan

By Wolverine Fan

November 26, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

JAYBO…….The pundits said the same thing about us against Walton & Norcross (East Paulding as well) Woodstock thrives as the underdog and Coach OB will have the men ready.. Camden Co. has not faced a defense as tough as the Wolverines…The fury will be unleashed.

By Camden Cat

November 26, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Senior and Wolverine Fan I don’t completely agree with JAYBO on this one. Don’t know if I agree about the blowout part but I do believe Camden will win….but I’m supposed to because they’re my team. I do however believe that Woodstock is to be respected for what they’ve accomplished. Only the bloggers take Woodstock lightly….not the coaches or the players of Camden. Wolverine Fan in regards to who we’ve played. Well….we had some competition earlier in the season with Hoover and that was it until we played Northside. Northside is the best team we’ve played by far….and I don’t know if they get much better outside of Newnan or Lowndes. That’s just my opinion though. Safe trip Friday!!

By Wolverine Fan

November 26, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Camden Cat…..I hope it will be a good game. I’m sure it will. The players, band and fans are excited about playing in South Ga….Just hope it’s warmer than 20 degrees as it was in Norcross last week.

By Camden Cat

November 26, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan hahahaha I hope it’ll be warmer than that too…or I’m not going!!!!

By Homet

November 26, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

For RealisticEP_Fan

Great post…SPOT ON…I agree with your score prediction…Grayson gets SHUT-OUT maybe scores 7 and Lowndes will POUND the ball all night UP AND DOWN the field scoring between 28 and 38 points…

Grayson will get behind early and then try to pass to open up the run. As you stated their QB runs the running game great but has VERY LIMITED passing ability. This game may get “UGLY” quick. Either way I am going to be there to see how it happens!!!

To JAYBO

Where you been guy…??? You just thought you and I had a few “heated” post…LOL! GET IN HERE and straighten out a few of these folks…LOL!

Hope everyone has a great THANKSGIVING holiday, ham & turkey tomorrow (with a couple of pro games on TV) then its Bar B Q in Grayson on friday night. Dang that’s not a BAD couple of days!!!

By Camden '08

November 26, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan I agree with Camden Cat. We haven’t played anyone really up to Northside. We did play Norcross the first game in the dome. I thought they were pretty good. I do believe it will be a good game because the team that’s hardest to beat is the one without fear and I think Woodstock has proven that fear is one thing they don’t have. The thing is Camden respects every team but they don’t fear either. I don’t think they care anything about records or close games. They just go out there and play whoever they have next. As I’m sure Woodstock does.

By PRhS

November 26, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

really jaybo. you would pick coffee over peachtree ridge hahaha

By Columbia Blue

November 26, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan

When you come to Camden you will be treated with the upmost respect. Congratulations on a good season and good luck Friday Night. Have a safe trip. We look forward to a good game with 0 trash talking. All the talk will take place between the lines.

By JAYBO

November 26, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Homet,

I’m still around dude…yea man, there are a few on here taking this thing in a direction totally uncalled for! Hey, after wrestling with you and ENR all season I’m tired….LOL!!!!!…hell, all I want to do now is get to the dome for the finals and play golf whenever we have some good weather!!! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family…enjoy the day and each other!!

By hurricanecamden

November 26, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Good morning everyone. Wolverine Fan everybody that play us say the same thing. Camden don’t play nobody. Ha!Our defence run a 4.4. Our offence wow I can’t even explain. We are far from average. Our boys are fast and physical. I don’t like to brag but I had too. Oh yeah some of our boys on offence run a 4.2. You will find out Friday.

By NHS

November 26, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan I don’t consider my Northside Eagles an “average team”, and Camden beat us last Friday night. Woodstock has had a great run this year, but that will end this Friday night in Kingsland. No way Woodstock beats Camden. Same goes for Grayson’s chances of beating Lowndes. It WILL BE Lowndes and Camden for the state title in the dome.

By politics-of-football

November 26, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

RAM FAN 21::: this is quote from the AJC not my opinion #16 IS THE SINGLE PLAYER THAT CAN CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF ANY GAME FOR THE RAM’S… my opinion of coach conn and the o# he run’s, WELL REALISTIC E.P SAID IT BEST …

By VikingConqueror

November 26, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Time for the picks in AAAAA:

Lowndes-42 v. Grayson-3

Newnan-35 v. NGwinnett-7

Camden-21 v. Woodstock-3

PeaRidge-17 v. Coffee-10

I know that last selection has the potential to excite a few 1-AAAAA fans but I’m impressed with PeaRidge’s D. Nevertheless, PeaRidge’s season ends next week.

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving all, even that BrookFan guy. Baseball ain’t a sport.

By Reeze

November 26, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Wolverine Fan…….Or any Woodstock fan….Intresting story you guys got going…Honestly if someone had mentioned Woodstock in a conversation with me,I would have thought they were talking about the nasty lookin little bird on charlie Brown toons…..Question - Most teams like yours who started out with a couple loses and then all of sudden gets hot..Usually there’s a game,a series of plays or even one big play during a game that turns the whole season around…..At what point during the season marked the turn around for Woodstock?

By shazam

November 26, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

VikingConqueror baseball aint a sport and neither is golf. lol. I don’t think Lowndes will beat Grayson that badly. Also politics-of-football if you keep reading those bias newspapers they’re gonna lead you astray. AJC thinks all of the Gwinnett teams have talent…..until they play a South GA. team.

By Reeze

November 26, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Jaybo…..Since we are now both the Nomads of Ga H.S Football……I’m taking in Westside/Tucker this friday…..What about you?

By DEKALB UNKNOWN

November 26, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

slalom1 and others that do not think Dunwoody has a chance and have not played anyone all season. Dunwoody has pay 12 nobodies this year if they listen to the hype about the LG football. Just so you all know Dunwoody will be there Friday night with one of the best offenses LG has seen all year along with an outstanding defense. Remember all it takes is one game each week to continue on to the next step and that’s all the Wildcats are focus on. See you Friday night may the best team win.

By Wolverine Fan

November 26, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Reeze……when we beat Kennesaw Mountain in overtime on 10/17/08. Since then we have won 6 in a row..4 of them on the road.

By JAYBO

November 26, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Reeze,

You are right about it man…LOL!!!! I’ll be up in Calhoun for the holiday, so I’m going to the Calhoun-Toombs Co. game. Be sure to give me the run down on the game…I’ll be looking for it! You and I both know that Westside is loaded, but hopefully Tucker will give them a game…but really, I don’t think so. I sure wish I could run back down to the complex and check that one out!! Have fun!

By AVikingFan

November 26, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

RealisticEP_Fan Sorry to disagree with you on the number of Lowndes fans making the trip to Grayson. Unless they are just wasting their money, and don’t plan to go, we will have 3000 fans plus our band and some 75 band parents with passes. We had sold out of our ticket allotment by noon yesterday, according to a lady who works in our ticket office. We could have sold 5 to 6,000 if they were reserved seats.

Getting to go to a playoff game for us is like a bowl game for the GA Bulldawgs. And our fans are excited that we may get THREE this year. The fans are estatic about that! Ask Southwest Dekalb, Benedictine, Lovejoy, Parkview, or the dome officials how Lowndes travels to road playoff games.

We’ll have three buses for players and coaches, one bus for cheerleaders, 14 buses for the band and one semi for the band equipment. The Touchdown Club will have a tent and large grill set up by 1:30 Friday giving sandwiches and softdrinks to Lowndes fans as they arrive. The club also has a block of rooms in a hotel on I-285 along with a hospitality suite for after the game.

Big time football is coming from South Georgia and Grayson only has two more days of football left in this season.

We hope our Harrison, Luella, and Lovejoy friends and coaches come to see us and share our hospitality. To the Lovejoy coaches, when are you coming to Suwannee, FL again? See you at Bill’s Fish camp!

Goooooo Vikes!

By TrojanDude

November 26, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Everybody

Sounds like everyone, (Especially us South Georgia gluttons), is getting ready to lay up and eat for 24-36 hours. I’m off to a big family feast later on today myself. Where, no doubt, I will wind up boring most of them to death with high school football. I’ll try to sneak around a laptop every chance I get and see what’s going on with you guys, (and gals).

coffeefan84 I hesitate to identify the Trojan we lost to a freak school day accident last week. I would hate to be the one responsible for his family getting a phone call from the obviously inconsiderate blogger or two on here. If you are local to Coffee check today’s paper. Should be in there. Coach Eldridge gave an empassioned plea for prayers for the young man in last Fridays pre-game interview. By the way P’Tree posters, his replacement stepped up and busted a few lips against Chapel Hill. Team performance suffered very little, if any. Hail to depth! I’ll check in from time to time to respond to anything hurled my way.

Happy and safe Holidays to all.

By HSBallfan

November 26, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

For those of us who still prefer to talk about football, here’s how Massey calls the quarterfinals.

AAAAA: Lowndes 27 Grayson 17, Coffee 15 P Ridge 14, Camden 34 Woodstock 18, Newnan 27 N Gwinnett 16

AAAA: Westside 30 Tucker 20, SW Dekalb 23 Griffin 18, Marist 30 Mt Zion 14, Rome 19 Statesboro 16

AAA: Cairo 27 Eastside 14, Carver 22 Gainesville 17, Baldwin 19 Fl Branch 11, Lagrange 25 Dunwoody 21

AA: Brooks 35 Lovett 20, Buford 26 Dublin 15, Fitzgerald 26 Pepperell 25, Toombs-Calhoun EVEN (22-22)

Try not to throw stuff.

By eagleofwar

November 26, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

RealisticEP_Fan Keep your head in the sand? Marist will keep its “head in the sand” until defenses can consistently stop the option. If I’m not mistaken, EP couldn’t stop it in ‘06.

By Wolverine Fan

November 26, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

NHS……I meant regular season games

By Chris Whitfield

November 26, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

JAYBO…….The pundits said the same thing about us against Walton & Norcross (East Paulding as well) Woodstock thrives as the underdog and Coach OB will have the men ready.. Camden Co. has not faced a defense as tough as the Wolverines…The fury will be unleashed.

Actually, WolverineFan, this pundit picked you to beat Norcross, but are you really going to compare Woodstock’s defense to Northside? Really? I’m not saying that Woodstock flat out doesn’t stand a chance against Camden, but the Wolverines will have to play flawless, and Camden will have to make mistakes.

By AVikingFan

November 26, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

HSBallfan: Happy Thanksgiving to you. And thanks for the Massey update. Me and Mr. Massey agree on pretty much all the games. I don’t think Grayson will score 17 though, and I don’t think it’ll be one of those games that our B team plays a lot. The varsity gave up only 7 to NSWR & PeaRidge, and I think they are better than Grayson.

To Chris and Todd Happy Thanksgiving! My daddy’s old corn field sure has seen some good times this year! Thanks for what you guys do and the exemplary (sp?)way you do it!

By DEKALB UNKNOWN

November 26, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Let’s check the list of victims over the last year and a half because the Dunwoody Wildcats last year were 8-2 and did not make the playoffs because of some stupid subregion rules. They beat teams like Jackson, Woodward Academy, Apalachee, Blessed Trinty, Westiminster in 2007. This year the fallen have been Troup, Griffin, St. Pius, and North Hall. The Wildcats over the last 22 games are 20-2 with a 16 game win steak make no mistake about it we will respect LG but they have better respect us or they will be turning in equipment just like the last two playoff teams have.

By Jeff

November 26, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Wow! Camden has a faster team than all the SEC schools! For Sportsfan31313, I think Todd straightened you out with the stats on north vs south. Not at all dominance. Someone was trying to say Athens and Clarke are the same, maybe they are today, but in 1969, and school named Athens won the state title. Then in 1977, Clarke Central won.

Lowndes loses for all the reasons I’ve been posting all week. Everybody knows they are good, very good, probably the best team in the country. But teams inevitably lose. Game factors are falling into place for Grayson. I’m waiting for a Lowndes post saying something other than Lowndes is the best team and will beat anyone they play. Why will you win? Speed. Yes, maybe. But I know you don’t have the speed that Camden is claiming. Rain also slows down fast runners. They slip and slide on the wet turf. Martin stadium is that plastic grass, right? So you are not used to playing on wet grass. That will be an adjustment you have to make.

And all you East posters, don’t start spewing your class act bull. You guys weren’t exactly angels of politeness leading up to the game last week. I gave ya’ll credit for being great fans, showing up, and cheering your team in bad conditions. I will agree with your fan count. You had 4 sections of stands 90% full. That is about 700 fans. At the beginning of the game, it was more like 200-300.

By Jeff

November 26, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

One thing is for sure. If Woodstock beats Camden, that will indeed be a bigger upset than the Grayson over Lowndes pick. But until either one happens, it is just talk.

EP fans, how many starters are you guys brining back next year? And to incite a little good natured ribbing, if the pop warner Wing-T is such a simple offense to run, why do you suppose two of the top 5 teams in GA run it successfully? I was impressed with your pro style offense, but you weren’t running it as effectively as you needed. Maybe the cold had something to do with it. I expected more from your passing attack, as that is the biggest achilles heel on the Grayson defense.

By RealisticEP_Fan

November 26, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

To AVikingFan

I won’t dispute your numbers. I’ve really only seen the northern ga teams play/travel. We/EP travel about as well as anyteam that I’ve seen.(we had just over 700 plus or band…is that Lowndes big,,no, but it is compared to most other teams from around here.) Mays did travel pretty well too.

The level of intensity that you say Lowndes will bring is fantastic for GA football. It is something that I as an EP Fan hope that we can strive for in the years ahead as we move from a program that is just starting to make a small name for it self with a modest degree of respectiblity, to a program such as yours.

Best wishes Friday.

Oh Side Note: The BBQ place A&J’s Tasty Pig…I tried it and the recommendation did say if it was ‘fresh’. Well on Friday before the game is was NOT fresh at all, and if I get that way again I”ll find another place. Not at all representative of outstanding bbq.

By hurricanecamden

November 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Yes Jeff these boys are great. I know I sound bias, but 3 times during the season these boys have what they call Super Cat Tests. They test various skills such as bench pressing, squats, and so on. They also do the 40. My son was running a 4.6 when he was in the 8th grade. Alot of our boys run track and has been running track since they were in the lil leagues. They usally have their super cat test results on the website www.camdencountyfootball.com. I am not sure if it updated yet because they recently had test done.

By TrojanDude

November 26, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

HSBallFan

Just an additional note on the Massey Ratings. They predict 15-14 Coffee. Yet if you go to match-ups and play Coffee against P’Tree the score comes up 15-15. A straight up tie. I wonder what algorythm they feed the computer to feed these tie breakers. Could it be Coffee’s unbeaten road record? Any speculation?

Regardless, what potential for suspense, anxiety, excitement and smash mouth football this game offers.

Anyone caring to listen to the game on live webcast can go to http://www.979thebigdog.com/ and click on “listen now”.

By HeadEast

November 26, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Any tickets available at the Pea? Should be the only game worth watching as the other three will be over by halftime. Luv ya Woodstock, but I think you’re badly outmatched this week. HoyaDawg - Says here we both wound up 9-3 and we didn’t have that embarassing loss to McEachern. In fact the other two teams we lost to are still in the playoffs! Wait till baseball season.

By Wolverine Senior

November 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Jeff This is true, Athens won it in 69 and a school called Clarke Central won it in 77. But you dont know all of your history. See my dad went to Athens and graduated in 68. Two years after my father left they changed the name to Clarke Central due to the blacks started going there and they wanted the name changed. So in all aspects they are the same school. Its the same building off of Millage street nessled between the sororities. The football team still practices at the ponderosa and plays at death valley. All they did is changed athens to clarke central and Trojans to Gladiators (big change there, lol).

By lee champion

November 26, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

ya’ll are messin up the board w worthless throwdown that does not add to “high school football”. Now, AAA- Carver lost Jarvis Jones for remainder of playoffs. Big, huge game changing loss. Baldwin in the right half is going to the semis to play i hope Lagrange. Much as i hate to say it Carver may not get past Gainesville, and won’t beat Cairo if they make the semis. So even being a Carver and Lagrange fan, it looks like Baldwin v. Cairo in the dome. its been a fabulous season for AAA fans.

By Jeff

November 26, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

hurricanecamden states, Ha!Our defence run a 4.4. Our offence wow I can’t even explain. We are far from average. Our boys are fast and physical. I don’t like to brag but I had too. Oh yeah some of our boys on offence run a 4.2. You will find out Friday

I checked the camden football website and found the results of their Cat Test for this season. Their fastest player ran a 4.49 40. They have 4 players under 4.6. The numbers on the website link given by hurricane is my data source. Sounds a little biased. Also sounds like the numbers for the 40 may be a tad inaccurate, as the record holder ran a 4.16. Deion Sanders ran a 4.17. Follow this link to Reggie Bush and his 4.33 http://speedendurance.com/2008/01/22/reggie-bush-40-yard-dash-fastest-433/

By douglasdawg

November 26, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

P-Ridge has a good “D” and thats about it ……thats all i’ve heard .Its gonna take more than “D” to beat the Trojans. Can you defend against the pass and run ,because our”O” is very balanced………Oh yeah our “D” is pretty good as well.COFFEE 10- PR 3

By Jeff

November 26, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the history lesson. Clarke Central was our primary foe in the 70’s at Lakeside. And Cedar Shoals and SWD for that matter.

By RealisticEP_Fan

November 26, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

For Jeff

Not exactly sure on the number of starters EP will have back(anyone in the program able to be definitive?)…..but looking at the roster and having seen them play so often it looks like there will be only 2,3 or 4 starters back for each side of the ball. The good news for the them is that they do have good skill players returning at the QB/RB/WR positions that all were either starters, started or played a major role. The top 3 Tail backs all return. Other bright spots are that the underclassmen are bigger, and hopefully the coaching staff can harvest that size into cohesive unit.

On to the subject of Offensive scheme: Why is the pop warner wingt offense so easy to run and why is it sucessful. It is a basic offense that basically originated a means of offsetting suprior size and speed on the other side of the ball with efficiency and execution. Nothing wrong with the offense and when run properly it is a frustrating to a defense as any thing there is out there.

Now, why do I believe that some will stay with it while there is starting to be a migration to other schemes…..very simply it is about appeal to the kids. The wing t is about team first/team only….as it should be….The pro style, and spread offenses tend to be more appealing to a broader range of kids for the mere fact that it is more what they see on Saturday and Sunday and kids want to emmulate what they see on those days.

Is it better,,no I don’t really think so. To win at the high school level, it takes execution and the more sophisticated the offense the more opportunity for error. The wingt has 3-4 basic plays that can be run from various formations and motions to both sides of the line. Throwing out of the wingt is NOT a natural evolution of the formation, it actually runs contradictatory to what is expected out of every athlete on the field the other 99 pct of the time.

The prostyle that EP runs is definitley more sophisticated, but EP still has much more limited implemetation then you see at the college level, simply because of the need to execute. There are 3-4 basic un plays, and 3-4 basic pass plays groups that are run. The need to grasp twice as much material and executed it to perfection every play is where the risk reward is. More difficult to execute, but if on much more difficult to stop as well.

Jeff, as you mentioned EP didn’t execute their offense very well. You are dead on, and quite frankly, a couple of probably reasons,,,1) mostly Grayson did a good job early stopping the inside fullback trap 2)They brought pressure with there front 4 without sending a backer. 3)EP, just didn’t stay with there blocks well enough, and due to pressue, the QB had several throws(4 or 5) sail high.

Kudos to Grayson,,,,,all in all I don’t see either team changing philosophy, but do look forward to watching the contrasting approaches for many years to come.

By Jeff

November 26, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Lowndes, does half your defense also run an imputed 4.2 40 yard dash?

By Jeff

November 26, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Great post, Realistic! Enjoyed the read. Although Lowndes has said they run 8 plays from their Wing-T, stop them if you can.

By Vike-King

November 26, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Jeffrey …

Just keep on doing your slide-rule, over-analytical, metric-statistical, paradigm-modeling mathematical calculations as you search desperately for what you believe must be some objective piece of useless data that will give you hope against Lowndes.

First the weather, then travel, now this.

We don’t know what our players’ 40 times our, and we don’t care. YOU can bring your stopwatch and clock them yourself if you wish. Just make sure your stopwatch has these settings:

Slow Average Fast Very Fast Blur Too Fast To Measure Greg Reid

By HeadEast

November 26, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Jeff - Our QB was inconsistent all year, so bad at Harrison that he got pulled, out for three weeks injured and came back with an incredible game at Milton, not too good at Grayson. Your defense dominated the line and we couldn’t run with enough success to make the play action passes work. IMHO, your D was great but Milton had a much better offense, running game, and running back. I think that means you might slow Lowndes down a little but probably won’t score much. A lot of the bloggers are predicted Grayson to score only 3 or 7 and it looks like they might be right. They play against the wing T a lot.

By pridge

November 26, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

douglasdawg:yea we can defend against the pass and run. we did it all through out the north gwinnett game. and harrison game. there are not too many long runs when your playing against us. and our offense is getting there. williford number 21 who plays on defense and offense hes a threat. he can go up for those long catches on offense and come down with the interceptions on denfense. Kevin Minter( lsu commitment), Chris Carrol, Conner Norman, and the bott twins are some of our best defensive players. we have not had anyone score over 7 points in our last 4 games. they are fast and quick. and our Running backs Ronnie Smith, and Brandon Stanley are very quick. its hard to get ronnie down because he is so big and fast that he can knock over would-be tacklers. Brandon Stanley makes quick cuts and jukes and runs faastt. Bradley Roby returns kicks and knows how to cathc the tough passes. Coffee yall are in for a good one.

By K

November 26, 2008 12:34 PM |