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AJC Football Rankings: Three No. 1 teams play ranked opponents this week
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
There are seven games this week between ranked teams. That’s the most this season. Previous high was five in early September. Would love to hear some fans break down those games.
Here’s what I see:
Winning comfortably (14+ points): Lowndes over Coffee, Buford over Westminster, Baldwin over Washington County.
Tight (3-10 points): Westside over Thomas County Central, Tucker over Southwest DeKalb, Wilcox over Turner.
Toss-up (1-3 points): Carver over LaGrange. Carver has played a tougher schedule and is perhaps more battle-tested.
Rankings shakeups:
AAAAA - Harrison, Union Grove out. Stephenson, Norcross in. Walton hangs on for losing close. But I’m starting to think Region 6 ain’t all that. Region 5 is stronger if you look at non-region results, the few of them that exist. And I like Gwinnett, so that’s why Norcross got the nod over one-loss teams such as Etowah, Kell, East Paulding, etc.
AAAA - Rankings stayed the same despite SWD losing to Marist. I gave Villa Rica a long look.
AAA - I gave in and ranked Jackson, dropping Carrollton, which just isn’t playing like a Top 10 team.
AA - Try ranking this class. You’ve got Buford & Pepperell, solid 1-2. Then No. 3 through No. 12 (with Dublin and Blessed Trinity being the teams that I couldn’t shoe-horn in there) is anybody’s guess, except when head-to-head determines the order. With Buford showing itself vulnerable last week, Class AA might wind up having the most interesting postseason of them all. And don’t count out 4-4 Thomasville.
A - Wesleyan replaces Athens Academy.
Todd talks back: Holcomb mixes it up with you all week long. Catch his running commentary in Poll Talk Monday-Friday. Leave comments, questions, etc., here and return to talk about this week’s rankings.
AJC High School Football Rankings - Week of Oct. 27, 2008
Class AAAAA
1. Lowndes (8-0) at Coffee
2. Camden County (8-0) vs. Savannah
3. Newnan (8-0) vs. Mundy’s Mill
4. Grayson (9-0) OFF
5. Northside-Warner Robins (7-1) vs. Warner Robins
6. North Gwinnett (7-1) vs. Duluth
7. Coffee (7-1) vs. Lowndes
8. Stephenson (7-1) at Greenbrier
9. Walton (7-1) at Roswell
10. Norcross vs. Peachtree Ridge
Class AAAA
1. Westside-Macon (8-0) vs. Thomas Central
2. Statesboro (9-0) OFF
3. Sandy Creek (8-0) vs. Northgate
4. Marist (7-1) at Lithonia (Panthersville)
5. Rome (8-1) OFF
6. Thomas County Central (7-1) at Westside
7. Sequoyah (7-1) vs. Murray County
8. Southwest DeKalb (6-2) vs. Tucker (Hallford) (Sat.)
9. Tucker (6-1) vs. SW DeKalb (Hallford) (Sat.)
10. Evans (8-0) at Cross Creek
Class AAA
1. Cairo (7-0) vs. Crisp County
2. Baldwin (8-0) at Washington County
3. St. Pius (8-0) vs. Riverwood
4. Dunwoody (8-0) at Druid Hills (Adams Stadium)
5. Gainesville (8-0) at Johnson-Savannah
6. LaGrange (7-1) vs. Carver-COL (Thu.)
7. Carver-Columbus (5-2) vs. LaGrange (Thu.)
8. Peach County (6-2) at Dougherty (Thu.)
9. Washington County (7-1) vs. Baldwin
10. Jackson (8-0) at Woodward Academy
Class AA
1. Buford (8-0) at Westminster
2. Pepperell (8-0) at Model
3. McIntosh County Academy (8-0)
4. Brooks County (7-1) vs. Cook
5. Fitzgerald (7-1) at Albany
6. Charlton County (7-1) at Jeff Davis
7. Westminster (7-1) vs. Buford
8. Appling County (7-1) vs. Tattnall County
9. Callaway (7-1) vs. Heard County
10. Henry County (7-1) vs. Howard
Class A
1. ECI (8-0) vs. Montgomery County
2. Wilcox County (8-0) vs. Turner County
3. Clinch County (7-1) vs. Pelham
4. Savannah Christian (7-1) at Portal
5. Lincoln County (7-1) vs. Wilkinson County
6. Brookstone (8-0) vs. Central Talbotton
7. Turner County (7-1) at Wilcox County
8. Bremen (7-1) at Trion
9. Bowdon (8-0) vs. Walker
10. Wesleyan (7-2) vs. Athens Christian
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By leechampion
October 26, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this
here come dem Carver Tigers to Lagrange should be a great game can’t wait will be there early
By Marist09Fan
October 26, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
Marist has beaten the number 1, 3, and 8 teams in the state, and their only loss is to an undefeted St. Pius team. Marist is back and all of the teams in 4AAAA should get ready for the playoffs, because Marist is. No one can stop them. (Marist vs. Pius rematch????)
By 89viking
October 26, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
aaaaarrrgggghhh,,the kiss of death,,,,vikes by 14 over coffee,,,noooo,,todd,,,take it back !!!! we dont belong on the field with coffee,,,i just hope we can get 3 points on coffee. please oh please take it back todd,,,coffeee is soooooo much better.
By TRUTH SPEAKER
October 26, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
Could someone please explain to me why North Clayton isnt ranked. They have only one lose to Banneker which came on a last minute HAIL MARY.Also what about Villa Rica. A two loss SWD shouldn’t be ranked. And who in the world is EVANS???
By canefan
October 26, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this
IF LOWNDES COMES IN OVERCONFIDENT/AND OR JUST TO COCKY….. COFFEE WILL BEAT THEIR BRAINS OUT, IF NOT IT WILL BE VERY CLOSE, WHO EVER HAS THE BALL LAST WILL PROBABLY WIN. I PICK COFFEE BY A FIELD GOAL. 31-28
By HoyaDawg
October 26, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
I say norcross goes down to Peachtree ridge this week. They might be the best 5-2 team in AAAAA. You said Harrison is out, but you chose Norcross over East, kell. Etowah, etc… Please don’t tell me you considered them over Harrison. Friday was ugly, but that game was not as important, as getting our starters back. If you count both ways, we were missing 8 starters friday night. I know we needed to go 10-0, just to stay 7-10 on your poll, and that is cool. I will not be like some and say the poll means nothing, because it does to me. I thank you for doing it, and making things more fun.
By to Marist09Fan
October 26, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this
I agree that Marist is a title contender, but a rematch with St. Pius is not possible as Pius moved down to AAA
By WACO-FAN
October 26, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this
what baldwin over waco by 14+ dang what a kick n the butt man last week it was our defensce strong now we weak!!!!!!!i know we might hvae lost our stare lb but dang we lost n da closein min’s 2 a burke county team that stood tall with AAAA #2 Statesboro…….i know we didnt look that great against the spread offense but wow!!!!!!!!14+
By WACO-FAN
October 26, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this
also i took a look at evans record being that i know them a lil and wanted too know who have they played too be ranked 10 they playn in a weak augusta region who we used too beat with eaz every year we was in their region!!!!!!!!!evans 10 now that’s a funny rankin
By AVikingfan
October 26, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
Lowndes Beat Valdosta 14-0, Coffee pretty much did what it wanted to against Valdosta. I tend to agree with 89viking. Lowndes will have to play its best in Douglas, GA. against a very good Coffee Trogan team. No costly penalties, NO turnovers lost, get some turnovers from Coffee, have a good kicking game, hope Greg Reid can make a big play or two and hopefully we can squeak by on a field goal.
By cool cell
October 26, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this
Todd, Its simply , who you got ? Carver-col or LG & Why ?
By HoyaDawg
October 26, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this
Todd, you said you are beginning to think 5AAAAA is stronger than 6AAAAA. If I am not mistaken, you have already said that you thought. 5AAAAA was the second strongest in the state. If you really believe that, why is Walton still ranked after losing to an unranked team in a weaker region, and no one from 5AAAAA is ranked. I really don’t follow that logic. I don’t know if 5AAAAA is stronger or not. I thought we were last year and Walton knocked us out of it. My call is region 6 looks pretty dang strong to me
By ysoserious
October 26, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this
Marist09Fan, I don’t think anyone wants to play Marist now. Everyone knows that they just improves more nd more as the season goes on. I do think a Marist-Pius rematch would be very interesting, though.
By Thomas
October 26, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Turner will beat Wilcox! This is a border war..we take these seriously!! I think we win a close one over a team we beat last year when they were flying high! We have been playing them for decades in JV and JR High even when we were in 1-AA and had good sucess. The names change but the fight is the same…RIVAL game..close and our Defense will win it for us!! GO REBELS!!!
By walton fan
October 26, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this
walton loses one game and you put stephenson ahead of us. They have not beaten anyone. who is next to be in the top 10 the school for the blind crippled and crazy
By Thomas
October 26, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
Either way this thing shakes out..it looks good for Turner on either side of the bracket…the battle for the south will be from Turner, Wilcox, Clinch, and Lincoln. We can battle those teams! These teams are the strongest I believe in the state in this classification. If we beat them this week can we finally rise? IF so how far…in the not to distant past we have beaten Clinch and Lincoln head to head in the course of a regular season before and this year we have an offense that can strike quickly.
By andre
October 26, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
wilcox county get ready because we are coming to do, what turner county do to you every year,different year but ain’t nothing change,great defense can’t run the ball against our defense ,some best linebackers in the state#24 e.j.walker 6’0 220 lb and #8 dee hayles 6’0 225,two hard hitter,play the whole field. turner win 28-14. very balance offense ,wilcox haven’t played offense like our,complex.
By Drock08
October 26, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Lagrange 14 to 6 over Carver Col. Lowndes 21-13 over Coffee
By Chris Whitfield
October 26, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this
walton loses one game and you put stephenson ahead of us. They have not beaten anyone. who is next to be in the top 10 the school for the blind crippled and crazy
Walton fan, YOU LOST and are still ranked. You should be thanking Todd for keeping you ranked. You lost to a two-loss team. You won’t find a writer more respectful of the bald-headed wonder in East Cobb (I say that because I am quickly headed there — good thing that column mug doesn’t show the back of my head), but I would have probably dropped the Raiders from the rankings after the last two games.
By Milledgeville
October 26, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this
Washington County might not even score against the Baldwin Braves..!!!!!It is what it is..
By Chris Whitfield
October 26, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this
Ooops, sorry, forgot about the Centennial game, but the games versus Milton and Lassiter weren’t impressive ones.
By Northside Fan
October 26, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this
Jaybo, I left you some directions to WS-TCC game Check High School Sports on the main page under the title:
Last weekend: Scores . Forum . Photo Galleries.
By jagp
October 26, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this
what do you mean stephenson didnt beat anyone. they beat previous number 4 ranked mlk and number 10 union grove. BOTH BY MORE THAN 20 POINTS. IF ANYTHING 2AAAAA IS WAY STRONGER THAN BOTH 5AAAAA AND 6AAAAA. STEPHENSONS ONLY LOSS CAME TO A LUELLA TEAM THAT THEY HAD NO BUSINESS LOSING TO 21-14. LUELLA LOSS TO MLK 28 -7(Stephenson beat mlk 27-7)they loss to union grove 10-6(stephenson beat union 25-0)and they loss to redan 18-12(stephenson blew out redan 48 -0). stephenson defense has to be in the top 5 in the state with four shutout wins this year and 2 others allowing only 7 points. not to mention that union grove was previously putting up 30+ points per game before playing stephenson. so walton fan dont talk about stephenson about how they jumped in front of walton like they did not deserve it
By JAYBO
October 26, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this
Northside Fan
Thanks a bunch!!!
By JAYBO
October 26, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this
Northside Fan,
Those directions are pretty simple…you’re right thats how I go home…LOL. Listen, can you advise me on where to park b/c I don’t want to get out of there at 12. Should I park on the street or something. Another question, is that the school’s stadium or a community stadium and is it a fairly safe area..don’t want no trouble? Again, thanks for your help. What do you know about westside? I know they have not faced a team as good as us this year. We played a very talented Cairo team in our second game and they whipped us pretty good….so I’m not sure if we can play with them, but I think we will be in the game. I’d be very suprised if they hold us under 7 points.
By Reeze
October 26, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this
What a great matchup in Douglas this friday coming ,wish I could be there…….14 points is a bit much,Coffee’s defense is better than that…….People don’t realize how good of a team Coffee is….They have the best offense in all of Region 1-AAAAA……Talk about a second half team …If Coffee plays the full 48 with the same intensity I saw in the last 2 qrts vs WR and the last 8 min vs NSWR ,they’ll beat anybody…And It looks as if the same happened at Valdosta…..It’s gonna be up to the Coffee’s coaching staff to beat Lowndes , the weapons are in place….If Bennett doesn’t have a monster game , the OC needs his head examined , and Coffee won’t win…… We learned that you can’t expect to run on Lowndes all night…If I were Coffee’s OC , I would come out slinging the ball and let the big kid pound Lowndes interior line.
By JJ
October 27, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this
Westside will put it to TCC, they win by at least 2 TD’s…
LaGrange over Carver, Columbus… LaGrange has returned to form after a down year last season, I think their D wins them the game in a very low scoring battle…
Lowndes rolls over Coffee by 20+…
Tucker over SWD in a close game, but Tucker pulls away late behind Jonathan Davis and Drayton Calhoun…
Wilcox and Turner is going to be a good one but I think Wilcox pulls it out…
And here are my AA rankings…
By JJ
October 27, 2008 1:24 AM | Link to this
EDIT POST ABOVE*
Jefferson Dragons (8-0) should be fourth in the state for AA in my poll I accidentally deleted that line
By WSIMON
October 27, 2008 1:26 AM | Link to this
WITH A WALTON WIN FRIDAY AND COFFEE BLOWOUT LOSS CAN WALTON GAIN A SPOT OR TWO
By trublu
October 27, 2008 7:14 AM | Link to this
Coffee had the advantage of hosting both Region 1-AAAAA contenders…they need to get a win here against Lowndes to keep any hope of a region championship alive. I am sure the announcer will be keeping an eye on that matchup at McConnell-Talbert as well, but it behooves him to stay silent unless WRHS wins the game. The Trojans need to go out and play their game. They are physical enough to get it done on defense, and productive enough to stay on the field with their offense. Time of possession is going to be the KEY stat in this game IMO.
By Homet
October 27, 2008 7:29 AM | Link to this
TODD…TODD…TODD…
Oh yee’ of little faith…LOL! You just couldn’t bring yourself to do it…That’s OK!!! EAST just BEAT again ANOTHER strong AAAAA team (one that many said would win) in Kennesaw Mtn. and you give them barely a mention…LOL!
EAST ONLY loss is to Harrison but EAST beat McEachern who beat Harrison last friday night…!?!?!?!? That alone should have been good enough for a #10 spot.
Harrison has Marietta left and then Etowah…they can EASILY lose BOTH of these games and end up 7-3, but of course 8-2 works fine!!!
East has Cherokee left this week then the SHOWDOWN with a scrappy Woodstock team in “THE BONEYARD”!!! With just a bit of luck EAST still ends up at 9-1…
Etowah…WELL just DO YOUR THING and FLY EAGLES FLY!!!…North Cobb this week and then their “SHOWDOWN” with Harrison!!! Take care of business and they are 9-1…
Region 5A AAAAA then has EAST #1, Etowah #2, Harrison #3, & probably Woodstock at #4…Interesting?????
By HPhil
October 27, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this
If East is #10 then Harrison should be #9. As a Harrison fan I can understand why we dropped out due to the injuries. However I am hoping that more starters are healthy by the playoffs, and the coach’s find out how to deal with the starters that are out for the season. I understand that up to 10 Harrison starters did not play aganst McEachern, here’s hoping most are well by the time playoffs start.
By beleiver
October 27, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this
todd, What do you think about stephenson now.
By NHS
October 27, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this
While the Coffee-Lowndes game is a big one, and could put the region in a three way tie for first place, Lowndes will very probably still be the number one seed based on the tie breaker rules.
By Reeze
October 27, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this
NHS…..If there was a 3 way tie what determines who’s the #1 2, and 3 seeds in region 1-AAAAA?
By A
October 27, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
Here we go again - the AJC (what a hack rag) sucking up to region 2 (for who knows what reason) - earlier this yeear it had been MLKL and Stephenson - now its Stephenson again just because they beat a region 2 rival. Year after year they’ve been doing it, and year after year region 2 schools crash and burn when they have toi play anybody real (AKA a non-region 2 school). I’d just love to see Stewphenson face Walton in an early playoff round so we can see yet again what an inept program stephensoin really has.
By Big Pappi
October 27, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this
HOMET - Woodstock may have to beat you to get #4. That could mean if Etowah takes care of business at homecoming versus North Cobb, and beats Harrison, we could still be region champs. As for now, I agree, “EAST” should be ranked, and TODD contradicts himself, stating 5AAAAA is superior and not ranking one of our three one loss teams in the top ten. I prefer that our region is as competitive as it is and we just tend to beat each other in exciting matchups.
By Northside Fan
October 27, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Jaybo, If possible, park as close to the street as you can. Westside HS/Stadium, and neigborhood is in the Lake Tobesokee area. No trouble there! Beautiful lake side home abound one street over from Heath Road. Westside has a senior laden team guided by Robert Davis, former Warner Robins HS coach. Their main strengths lie at having a shifty, accurate passing senior QB and a Div I linebacker name Burnett. NSWR played them during pre-season (won 14-0). You have to stop their backs at the line of scrimmage. They are fast with the support of one top Div I receiver. Although the staduim is contigious with the school, ownership is with Bibb County. Something happened awhile back with funds that caused the take over. I wish I could be there! It will be a close game.
By NHS
October 27, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Reeze, believe it or not, head to head has no bearing. Ties are broken by the number of points you allow to teams in (or tied) for the top 4 places. Right now Lowndes has allowed 28 points with two games remaining against Coffee and Warner Robins. Coffee has allowed 55 points with two games remaining against Lowndes and Tift. Northside has allowed 66 points with one game remaining against Warner Robins. Points involving Houston County and Colquitt are not included since they have no shot at the playoffs. Of course, there could be other adjustments based on what Tift, Valdosta, and Warner Robins do in their last two games. There is a strong possibility those three could tie for 4th place with 3-4 regions records. If that happens, then Valdosta has the points advantage right now.
By NHS
October 27, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
If Tift beats Valdosta they will probably be the 4 seed from the region.
By oldlion
October 27, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
Marist09 - Have to wait till next year on that rematch with Pius. It should be the season opener once again. You will get to see Cole Moon one more time, only bigger and faster. Pleasant dreams…
By CATHY
October 27, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
TURNER COUNTY CAN TALK ALL THE SMACK THEY WANT. THEY HAD BETTER COME PREPARED TO PLAY AND PLAY HARD.
By Homet
October 27, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
For Big Pappi
Yep again NO LUV for 5A AAAAA teams…Todd has NO TROUBLE ranking a 6-2 team over 3 (THREE) 7-1 teams!!!…LOL!
Oh well…Yeah I agree with you that if Woodstock is going to be the #4 it may come down to the EAST game…
Oh yeah…any of the three can still win the region…Harrison, Etowah or EAST…but last weeks McEachern win REALLY helped us all and I have a sneakin’ suspicion that Etowah is going to be FIRED up for that last game…LOL!
If you can’t get excited about the games when they come down to the LAST WEEK like this Region is shaping up to do, then you probably don’t need to be watching FOOTBALL!!!…LOL!
By Stephenson Fan
October 27, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Why does everyone always want to hate on Stephenson? Come on, give us credit where credit is due..
By boo
October 27, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
what is it gona take for villa rica to get some respect? we only lost to pepperell which is ranked & always have a very good team.
By Jblue
October 27, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Walton could never beat the best Stephenson Football teams. Not this years team nor the one in 2005. Speed kills . Besides when you guys make it atleast to the dome once, then talk.
By Tipp Smooth
October 27, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Sleep on Camden County Wildcats.
By Tipp Smooth
October 27, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Sleep on Camden County Wildcats.
By Homet
October 27, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Hey JAYBO
You still giving me the “silent” treatment…LOL! Come on TCC is doing fine this year so jump on in some of these posts!!!
By Jblue
October 27, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Walton is too slow. Stephenson’s defense is too fast for Walton’s offense. Ask Union Grove, and MLK. This defense is probaly the best Overall defense Stephenson has ever had. They have Size, Speed, and good tackling and most important their not easily fooled. Besides when Walton can atleast make it to the Semi finals then you question a team like Stephenson being RANKED; which is No big deal to Stephenson’s team anyway.
By JAYBO
October 27, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Northside Fan,
Again, thanks for the information, wish you could join me. Hopefully, we will give Westside a game!! Hey, don’t yawl beat WR too bad, take it easy on ‘em…LOL!!!!
By JAYBO
October 27, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Todd,
I just want to know one thing: If we(TCC) beat the #1 team in Macon Fri night, we will be the new #1?????
By AVikingfan
October 27, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
to: NHS Your assessment of the playoff formual for deciding ties is correct. AAAAA wins outside the region would come into play only if a tie remained after the formula you stated. However, Lowndes gave up 7 to NSWR, and 14 to Tift County. I guess the other 7 you were talking about was the points Valdosta scored on us. I am more concerned with keeping the Coffee score low. The playoff teams probably will be NSH (NSWR) , Tift, Coffee, and Lowndes. To those we have given up 21, Coffee has given up 17 I believe. NSH (NSWR) has given up 52. Tift has given up 58 and still must play Coffee. Looks like Coffee is in the driver’s seat!
By T.J.
October 27, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
All season there has been accusations that some regions are stronger or weaker than the rest. Todd addressed it once. Is there a shift in power from one region to another since several key games have taken place? Teams have gotten better, like Brookwood. If Walton were to play Brookwood again I do not think the outcome would be the same as week 1. So how would regions be ranked now?
By Yo
October 27, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Canefan…when do you suppose was the last time Lowndes gave up 31 points to any one? Beginning with the 2003 season Lowndes has given up 31 pts. only once and that was in the down year of 2006. Even in that year they only gave up exactly 31 pts. just once. You have to go back to 2002 (McPherson first year) to find where they have given up more than 31 pts and then it was only once that year also. In other words in the last 85 games Lowndes has played they have given up 31 pts only twice. Once in down year of 2006 and once in McP. first year of 2002. It ain’t going to happen.
By NHS
October 27, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
AVikingFan, you are correct in assuming that I included the 7 points by Valdosta, but I also included Warner Robins in the mix. Right now, they are 3-2 in the region. If they lose to Northside and Lowndes they finish 3-4. If Valdosta beats Tift and Houston County they finish 3-4. And, if Tift loses to Valdosta and Coffee they finish 3-4. Since all of those teams still have a shot at the playoffs, I included them in my points allowed. This week will probably clear some of this up, because if Northside and Tift both win, Tift will be the fourth team from region 1. Assuming that happens, the the points from Valdosta and Warner Robins drop from the equation. As you say, that leaves Coffee with 17 points allowed and needing to beat Lowndes and Tift and hold them to less than 34 points to win the second seed. We still have some excitement and suspense left with two weeks in the season.
By billdog
October 27, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Norcross ranked ahead of Peachtree Ridge? Thanks. I think I know how that will received in the locker room. Just added incentive to continue towards the goal (and along the way show you that the Ridge, who had Lowndes on the run until the end, and leads Norcross in the region standings, is peaking at the right time). Not sure what you were thinking since you considered the Ridge for #10 last week. But like they say, the only poll that counts is the last one.
By HeadEast
October 27, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
I’ll be happy if we get ranked first year in AAAAA in the final rankings! But this bothers me…”Kennesaw Mountain (4-4, 3-4 Region 5-AAAAA) got a 14-yard touchdown pass from T.J. Eifert to Christian Lewis and Jacob Carean had 14 tackles, but could not overcome East Paulding (7-1, 6-1)”. I read 47 other accounts of high school games from last weekend and all of the others said something about the accomplishments of the winners. East = No Respect. We totally demolish KM, could have won by 40 if we didn’t put on the brakes the whole second half, and two players from KM get mentioned? How about East playing without their starting QB got TD passes of 70 and 25 yards to blow the game wide open in the first half!!!!!
By VRforReal
October 27, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
YOU GAVE VILLA RICA A LOOK. Thats very generous of you. No respect for the Cats, no problem we’ll just keep winning and letting everyone take us lightly.
By HSBallfan
October 27, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Villa Rica: They’ve handled their region schedule but lost badly to Pepperell. They’ll settle the region with Sandy Creek in a couple of weeks. I’d rank them number ten; Evans smells a lot like Union Grove to me, but I can understand why Todd would not want to demote an undefeated team. SW Dekalb played Marist close, but if they lose to Tucker Friday night they’re out, and assuming VR deals with Tri-Cities, they would be in.
Walton: two of the four polls I look at haven’t ranked Walton in the top ten at all. Be thankful Todd has a big heart.
TCC: A win Friday would be more a commentary on Westside’s credentials than Thomas County’s claim to #1. Anyone can look invincible beating up on weak opponents. Just ask Tucker. If Westside loses Friday, I recommend we leave the top spot in AAAA vacant and start the rankings with number two. I’m not convinced Statesboro is the real deal either; they’ll have their hands full keeping that Brunswick passing attack off the scoreboard.
By T.J.
October 27, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
I just found out. Grayson has won the region championship with their win Friday night. Congrats Grayson! Any other teams secured their region championship?
By Trojandude
October 27, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
I don’t know Todd. Lowndes by 14?
Lowndes is going to have to score and score a lot to win by 14. Coffee has averaged over 400 yards in offense against every region 1AAAAA they have faced so far….And the Trojan defense is better than most might think.
This is a different Coffee team than in years past. The young men play with a lot of heart and don’t get down when the momentum swings hard in their opponents favor. The Coffee coaching staff has done an excellent job adapting to the opposition. Believe me Coffee has had a lot of uncharacteristic wrikles thrown at them the last three or four games. Coffee may just be the most scouted team in the state in recent weeks.
Between the hedges at Jardine Stadium means something this year. The fans turned around and reentered the stadium during the NSWR game and Coffee easily had double the fans in attendance on the road and in the rain at Valdosta.
Coffee has a lot of weapons. Their starting 22 really consists or 34-35 young men who rotate with negligable. drop-off in performance.
Look for Coffee to come out with the long ball, option and big Melvin Loving pounding straight ahead.
If Lowndes brings the same game they threw against NSWR and Valdosta,,, Coffee has a good chance of coming out on top.
Good luck to all. Let us look forward to a special game regardless of the final score.
By Dawg Gone
October 27, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Has anyone seen Dunwoody play? How about St. Pius? Dunwoody has put up some gawdy numbers, but is that because they’re that rippin good or the competition weak? Ditto for St. Pius? It looks like those two will be undefeated when they meet for the Region 5 AAA championship.
By Todd Holcomb
October 27, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Could someone please explain to me why North Clayton isnt ranked. They have only one lose to Banneker which came on a last minute HAIL MARY.Also what about Villa Rica. A two loss SWD shouldn’t be ranked. And who in the world is EVANS???
SWD lost to #4 Marist by 6 and a Class AAAAA playoff team in MLK by 9. North Clayton lost to an unranked team. But if someone ranked North Clayton over SWD, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Same with Villa Rica. I studied those long and hard. But I didn’t see the point in dropping SWD out of the Top 10 after the game it had with Marist. As for Evans, that’s an undefeated team that plays in the state’s weakest region. But I’ll note that Evans went 9-3 last season, with 2 of those losses to the AAAA finalists, Northside & Ware County.
You said Harrison is out, but you chose Norcross over East, kell. Etowah, etc… Please don’t tell me you considered them over Harrison. Friday was ugly, but that game was not as important, as getting our starters back. If you count both ways, we were missing 8 starters friday night.
I’m aware that Harrison was missing some starters, and I don’t doubt that was a factor in the outcome, but that’s inadmissible evidence in this court. With 350 teams in the state, I can’t go searching for all the reasons that teams win and lose. All I can analyze is who wins and loses and how close the games were. I might also value a region game slightly more than a non-region, and certainly a playoff game over a regular-season game. But nothing else matters. I rank them on performance, not how they’ll do when at full strength in the big game to come.
what baldwin over waco by 14+ dang what a kick n the butt man
Well, maybe it will be closer, but don’t go losing to Burke!
i took a look at evans record being that i know them a lil and wanted too know who have they played too be ranked 10 they playn in a weak augusta region who we used too beat with eaz every year we was in their region!!!!!!!!!evans 10 now that’s a funny rankin.
I’m not on the Evans bandwagon either, but the other teams I could be ranking – Villa Rica, North Clayton, Loganville – have lost to unranked teams. It’s hard to know what to do with unranked teams playing terrible schedules. I’m generally not a fan of them, but it’s getting late in the season, and remember that Evans lost to AAAA runner-up 9-7 last season. Evans is not a legit state contender, but they’re not a joke, either.
Lowndes Beat Valdosta 14-0, Coffee pretty much did what it wanted to against Valdosta.
Didn’t Lowndes beat Valdosta 14-7? I wouldn’t bother comparing scores. Lowndes beat N’side 24-7, and Coffee lost to N’side. Lowndes beat Coffee 42-13 last season. What has changed so much this season to expect a tight game?
Todd, Its simply , who you got ? Carver-col or LG & Why ?
I haven’t seen either team this season, but I favor Carver due to defense and the experience of having played a tougher sked week in, week out. But I like both these teams quite a bit. I view both as serious state title contenders.
Todd, you said you are beginning to think 5AAAAA is stronger than 6AAAAA. If I am not mistaken, you have already said that you thought. 5AAAAA was the second strongest in the state. If you really believe that, why is Walton still ranked after losing to an unranked team in a weaker region, and no one from 5AAAAA is ranked. I really don’t follow that logic.
Because Walton is closer to being undefeated than Harrison. Walton lost 31-24, while Harrison was reeling most of the night vs. McEachern. Walton also has a nice non-region victory (as does Harrison). Walton also made the SF last season and beat Harrison, and while that doesn’t count for much in 2008, I can help but remember that while splitting hairs among teams that are so close. And as for R5 vs. R6, I just mean that R5 goes deeper.
walton loses one game and you put stephenson ahead of us. They have not beaten anyone. who is next to be in the top 10 the school for the blind crippled and crazy
As HoyaDog stated, Walton should appreciate being in the rankings. Stephenson is coming off two easy wins over pretty good teams in UGH and MLK. Walton is coming off a loss and a narrow win.
Jefferson Dragons (8-0) should be fourth in the state for AA in my poll I accidentally deleted that line
Another undefeated team with a terrible schedule. I should make a list.
WITH A WALTON WIN FRIDAY AND COFFEE BLOWOUT LOSS CAN WALTON GAIN A SPOT OR TWO
Walton could certainly jump Coffee in that scenario.
EAST ONLY loss is to Harrison but EAST beat McEachern who beat Harrison last friday night…!?!?!?!? That alone should have been good enough for a #10 spot.
Good argument, but the teams that made the Top 10 are closer to being undefeated, or they have lost to higher-ranked teams.. Harrison pretty much controlled East. But as I said, East probably has as good an argument as anybody at this point.
If East is #10 then Harrison should be #9.
Not necessarily. Head-to-head is overrated. What reflects worse on a team, losing to Harrison or losing to McEachern? So East has the ‘’better’’ loss. No who has the best wins? How close have the scores been? It’s probably a toss-up.
todd, What do you think about stephenson now.
Best team in Region 2. How that translates in the state playoffs remains a big question mark, however.
While the Coffee-Lowndes game is a big one, and could put the region in a three way tie for first place, Lowndes will very probably still be the number one seed based on the tie breaker rules.
‘NHS’ tells us below that seeds will be based points allowed if there’s a three-way tie. I hadn’t heard that. In any event, I’m glad Lowndes doesn’t have it sewn up. Otherwise, the Vikes would sit out 10 starters and take a loss while pleading the Harrison defense. : )
Here we go again - the AJC (what a hack rag) sucking up to region 2 (for who knows what reason) - earlier this yeear it had been MLKL and Stephenson - now its Stephenson again just because they beat a region 2 rival. Year after year they’ve been doing it, and year after year region 2 schools crash and burn when they have toi play anybody real (AKA a non-region 2 school). I’d just love to see Stewphenson face Walton in an early playoff round so we can see yet again what an inept program stephensoin really has.
Stephenson has won more playoff rounds than Walton this decade. So has MLK, for that matter, and MLK didn’t start playing until 2002. Walton played MLK in the QF last season. I went to the game and saw Walton win on a last-second FG, but I don’t remember concluding that MLK and Region 2 were inept. If so, what does that say about Walton?
TODD contradicts himself, stating 5AAAAA is superior and not ranking one of our three one loss teams in the top ten.
No contradiction. The strength of a region is not determined by which region has the team most worthy of the highest team ranking.
what is it gona take for villa rica to get some respect? we only lost to pepperell which is ranked & always have a very good team.
I respect Villa Rica, but everybody that’s ranked is either undefeated or has a loss like that. Who should I not rank? Tucker or SWD? “We only lost to Marist.” Sequoyah? “We only lost to Rome.” Thomas Central? “We only lost to Cairo.’’ Join the club.
Walton could never beat the best Stephenson Football teams. Not this years team nor the one in 2005. Speed kills . Besides when you guys make it atleast to the dome once, then talk.
Keep this between you and me, Jblue, but Walton has made the Dome in 2004 and 2007.
I just want to know one thing: If we(TCC) beat the #1 team in Macon Fri night, we will be the new #1?????
No.
All season there has been accusations that some regions are stronger or weaker than the rest. Todd addressed it once. Is there a shift in power from one region to another since several key games have taken place? Teams have gotten better, like Brookwood. If Walton were to play Brookwood again I do not think the outcome would be the same as week 1. So how would regions be ranked now?
Didn’t Brookwood just beat Dacula in overtime? And how can you tell if one region has improved more since the start? They’re just playing teams in their own region now. So has Brookwood improved, or does Brookwood just look improved not that they’re playing sorry teams in their own region? Yours is a good question, but it’s hard to measure regions when their teams are just playing each other.
By Band Mom Gone Wild
October 27, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
Billdog, I’m with you. Ptree Ridge has had an awesome season thus far! The Lions have been so strong, but yet almost totally ignored by the press. That’s ok. It’s the quiet ones you’ve got to watch out for.
By mikemike
October 27, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
GO CAIRO BEAT CRISP COUNTY .
By Homet
October 27, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
For HeadEast
Forget it…you are screaming into the wind!!!We WIN HUGE without our starting QB and you hear NOTHING but Harrison LOSES and it’s all because of them playing without their BIG DAWGS!!!
Robbie Godhigh is “WHINING” big time on his My Space page about how hard the EAST players hit him and how they ruined his year!!!! Well boo-hoo, it’s FOOTBALL you get hit…Of course NO ONE is happy that ANYONE gets hurt,but football is a contact sport and the EAST defense “runs to the ball”…if you happen to be the one “toting the load” when you play EAST…GET READY you are going to get hit!!!
By Todd Holcomb
October 27, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
But this bothers me…”Kennesaw Mountain (4-4, 3-4 Region 5-AAAAA) got a 14-yard touchdown pass from T.J. Eifert to Christian Lewis and Jacob Carean had 14 tackles, but could not overcome East Paulding (7-1, 6-1)”. I read 47 other accounts of high school games from last weekend and all of the others said something about the accomplishments of the winners.
Probably explanation: Nobody from East Paulding called us Friday night with details of the game, but Kennesaw Mountain did.
By Chris
October 27, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
McIntosh County Academy Buccaneers!! I seem to remember telling you Todd to watch out for this game! MCA is for real. If not for a huge fumble return for a touchdown Tattnall County wouldn’t have broken double-digits. I am glad to see them getting their just due at number 3 this week. MCA is another solid south Georgia team (about 1 1/2 hours from Camden County high school) that doesn’t get a lot of publicity but will make some noise in the playoffs this tear.
By Chris
October 27, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
McIntosh County Academy Buccaneers!! I seem to remember telling you Todd to watch out for this game! MCA is for real. If not for a huge fumble return for a touchdown Tattnall County wouldn’t have broken double-digits. I am glad to see them getting their just due at number 3 this week. MCA is another solid south Georgia team (about 1 1/2 hours from Camden County high school) that doesn’t get a lot of publicity but will make some noise in the playoffs this year.
By Same School??
October 27, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
How can Warner Robbins play itself this weekend? Is that a misprint?
By NHS
October 27, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
I think it is a disgrace and a poor reflection on ANY school that charges players to participate in football or any other sport.
By HPhil
October 27, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
If East is #10 then Harrison should be #9.
Not necessarily. Head-to-head is overrated. What reflects worse on a team, losing to Harrison or losing to McEachern? So East has the ‘’better’’ loss. No who has the best wins? How close have the scores been? It’s probably a toss-up.
If you think the McEachern game is typical of future games I would agree with you. But most of the starters not in the game will be back. They did the same thing against Cambell last year, even without a lot of injuries. It was the last game and they played mostly 2nd and even 3rd team at the start, and broght in some of the starters after they were losing. Why? I guess because they were already in the playoff’s even if they lose to Cambell.
By JJ
October 27, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
I feel that North Gwinnett was hit way to hard by most people in the polls for losing to the #1 team in the nation, in which they played Byrnes very well until late… I think North Gwinnett should be #4 in AAAAA ahead of Northside and Grayson… I think they are better than they were last year, and thats the same team who went to the state title game
By Homet
October 27, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
Sorry NHS but Band & Cheerleaders parents have been doing this for YEARS…they have to fork out tons of $$$$ if their kids want to participate. Successful programs cost money to fund!!!!!
Now of course in keeping with the election year we all know that as soon as the “Barackster” is elected he is going to FIX it all with his CHANGE!!! Everyone deserves / has the right to the SAME as everyone else and NOBODY should have anything better than anyone else!!!…LOL!
By HeadEast
October 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
I think the one loss 5-AAAAA teams should stay unrated next week too, even if Coffee gets a second loss. I’m looking forward to sending four good teams against region 6 in the first round. Should be good games considering Kell-Woodstock was a pretty close game. Look for 1-AAAAA to have three of the four semifinal teams.
By lee champion
October 27, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Carver Tigers to hit Lagrange in the mouth Thursday at Callaway Stad. Lagrange shall then hit them back! It will be a WAR. I know Cairo and Baldwin are good but this could be a fabulous game. Look for quite possibly the 3 or 4 best linebackers in the state to be on the field. Both will be in playoffs and depending on seeding, possibly the dome
By NHS
October 27, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Hornet, our Houston County schools have cheerleaders and band members paying fees, but NOT football players. If that becomes a requirement I’m afraid many will not be participating.
By #1 Eagle Fan
October 27, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
NHS the reason why football players do not pay is because they have a booster club that raises money for them and very rarely do they share any money with the rest of the sports. Cheerleading is one of the most popular sport yet they have to raise their own money. They bring home state titles just like other sports. Shouldn’t all sports share the same money.
By sportsfan31313
October 27, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Hey Todd Holcomb,
Remember our comments about three to four weeks a ago about Region 3-AAAAA Bradwell Institute? I believe you stated that Bradwell Insitiute could’nt beat anyone anyone outside of Region 3-AAAAA. You also said I could tell that to the people down there in Hinesville.
Well it’s getting very near to that. Since those injured players are back, Bradwell has been Routing those teams and have scoring at least 40 + points against each opponent.
Camden County will be in Hinesville to Play against Bradwell Institute. This will be a good game. No shut out or blow out. This game will played very fast, and physical.
In addition, I really don’t believe that Region 1-AAAAA could beat Camden County this year at the rate they are playing.
Don’t sleep on Bradwell Institute, and Camden County. At least not this year. Or count Bradwell Institute out. I believe that this year Bradwell Institute will make the playoffs at least as the number 2 seed, and will win the 1st round of the playoffs.
By wildmanhoya
October 27, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
HPhil
I understand that up to 10 Harrison starters did not play against McEachern, here’s hoping most are well by the time playoffs start.
I don’t know where you get your information from yet you are so far off base it is crazy. The only starters that did not play were #1, #3, #21 and #59. I would name names but i do not do that in an open forum. I would sure like to hear the numbers of the other 6 or so that did not play. The rest played although some appeared to not be as in to it as maybe they could have been. Not to take anything away from the Indians yet some Hoya players appeared to take things a bit too lightly. Won’t happen again.
By wildmanhoya
October 27, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Homet
Nice show of class, or lack of it, calling out a 17 year old, by name no less, for what he supposedly wrote on his MySpace page.
By HPhil
October 27, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Sorry NHS but Band & Cheerleaders parents have been doing this for YEARS…they have to fork out tons of $$$$ if their kids want to participate. Successful programs cost money to fund!!!!!
Band is very expensive, $600 for uniform, plus extra for special trips such as St. Patric’s parade in Ireland and St. Macy’s parade. Instruments, and instrument repair is also real high. We have had a football player or two in band at Harrison, but of course not marching band.
By wildmanhoya
October 27, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
HPhil
They did the same thing against Cambell last year, even without a lot of injuries. It was the last game and they played mostly 2nd and even 3rd team at the start, and broght in some of the starters after they were losing. Why? I guess because they were already in the playoff’s even if they lose to Cambell.
I will say it again, where are you getting your information because you have no clue what you are talking about? Last year against Campbell the Hoyas did not, I repeat did not, start with their 2nd and 3rd team players only to put some starters in when they fell behind. I know this for an absolute fact, not what I think or was told. The Hoyas tried to win the game right from the outset in order to keep up the mojo for the playoffs. Were you even at the game?
By HPhil
October 27, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
I don’t know where you get your information from yet you are so far off base it is crazy. The only starters that did not play were #1, #3, #21 and #59.
I had heard of another player injured, but not sure he is a starter. Some others here have posted 8 and 10 starters did not play or perhaps not play as much. Why did you not comment to their posts?
By HeadEast
October 27, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
I hope #21’s high ankle gets better really soon. The best player I’ve seen this year, he played on all three teams and looked terrific, definitely a D1 candidate despite his size. But I’ll have to pull for Etowah to win the region for East on November 7. Go Eagles!
By HPhil
October 27, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
wildmanhoya,
The confusion is maybe ten starters did not start, but some of them perhaps 5 or 6 played later. But again I was repeating something others posters had stated.
By Northside Fan
October 27, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Homet, Please keep your politcal opinion to yourself. This blog is not for that!
By Vince
October 27, 2008 3:18 PM |