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AJC Football Rankings: Union Grove in for first time ever; Mays falls out
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Talking points
Who would you rank in Class AAAAA after East Paulding, the former No. 10, lost to Harrison?
I considered four teams, including East Paulding. The others were Peachtree Ridge, Norcross and Union Grove. The dart hit UG. Maybe we’ll find out if UG - ranked for the first time ever - is worthy this week vs. Stephenson.
In AAAA, Mays dropped out of the Top 10 from No. 2. Banneker is not a bad loss, but there’s so little to separate No. 6 from No. 15 in this class that one defeat can spark a free-fall. I couldn’t get past the fact that Mays lost to an unranked team, and that team (Banneker) was blown out by Villa Rica. And Villa Rica was handled by a AA school, Pepperell. My ranked teams have no losses, or they’ve lost to other ranked or bigger schools. So Tucker, despite the 38-0 thing, is back in the rankings after beating Chamblee, which helps atone form the shocking margin of defeat vs. Marist.
No big changes in AAA, AA or A.
Another question: Who are the biggest surprises and disappointments this season?
For me, the top surprise is Appling County. Others: Union Grove, Gainesville, Sequoyah, WaCo, Callaway, SWD, East Paulding.
Biggest disappointment? That’s easy: Ware County. Others: MLK, Perry, Charlton County, maybe Thomasville. Also Shaw and Valdosta.
Todd talks back: Holcomb mixes it up with you all week long. Catch his running commentary in Poll Talk Monday-Friday. Leave comments, questions, etc., here and return to talk about this week’s rankings.
AJC Football Rankings - Week of Oct. 20, 2008
Class AAAAA
1. Lowndes (7-0) vs. Houston County
2. Camden County (7-0) vs. Jenkins
3. Newnan (7-0) vs. Pebblebrook
4. Grayson (8-0) vs. Meadowcreek
5. Northside-Warner Robins (6-1) vs. Tift County
6. North Gwinnett (6-1) vs. North Forsyth
7. Walton (7-0) at Lassiter
8. Harrison (7-0) vs.McEachern
9. Coffee (6-1) at Valdosta
10. Union Grove (7-0) vs. Stephenson
Class AAAA
1. Westside-Macon (7-0) at Americus-Sumter
2. Statesboro (8-0) at South Effingham
3. Sandy Creek (7-0) vs. Starr’s Mill
4. Marist (6-1) vs. Southwest DeKalb
5. Rome (7-1) vs. Dalton
6. Thomas County Central (6-1) at Hardaway
7. Sequoyah (6-1) at NW WHitfield
8. Southwest DeKalb (6-1) at Marist
9. Tucker (6-1) vs. Stone Mountain
10. Evans (7-0) vs. Hephzibah
Class AAA
1. Cairo (6-0) vs. Perry
2. Baldwin (7-0) vs. Liberty County
3. St. Pius (7-0) vs. Grady
4. Washington County (6-0) at Burke County
5. Dunwoody (7-0) vs. McNair
6. Gainesville (7-0) vs. Gilmer
7. LaGrange (6-1) at Columbus
8. Carver-Columbus (5-2) at Kendrick
9. Carrollton (6-1) vs. Central Carrollton
10. Peach County (5-2) vs. Worth County
Class AA
1. Buford (7-0) vs. Blessed Trinity
2. Fitzgerald (7-0) vs. Brooks County
3. Appling County (7-0) at McIntosh County Academy
4. Pepperell (7-0) at Coosa
5. Charlton County (6-1) vs. Brantley County
6. Westminster (6-1) at Cross Keys
7. Brooks County (6-1) at Fitzgerald
8. Callaway (6-1) at Crawford County
9. Henry County (6-1) vs. at NE Macon
10. McIntosh County Academy (7-0) vs. Appling County
Class A
1. ECI (7-0) at Metter
2. Wilcox County (7-0) at Hawkinsville
3. Clinch County (7-1) OFF
4. Athens Academy (7-0) vs. Wesleyan
5. Savannah Christian (6-1) at Calvary Day
6. Lincoln County (6-1) vs. Hancock Central
7. Brookstone (7-0) vs. Webster County
8. Turner County (6-1) vs. at Dooly County
9. Bremen (6-1) vs. Gordon Lee
10. Bowdon (7-0) at North Paulding
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By beleiver
October 19, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this
what did you think about the stephenson win over MLK
By jc53class94
October 19, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this
WHY IS NORTH CLAYTON NOT RANKED THEY ARE BY FAR THE BEST METRO TEAM IN AAAA.
By JMJ2
October 19, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
It was a good win for Stephenson. The Defense was great as usual.Defense wins Football games.
By T.J.
October 19, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
Looks like Walton and Union Grove will have their work cut out for them this week to keep in the top 10. They lose, who will get in?
I went to the Parkview and South Gwinnett game. I can not believe Parkview was in a 3OT with South. Any Grayson folks have any observations about that Berkmar game? Someone told me Grayson kneeled and did not punch it in again when they could have. Camden could take notes from them. So is the Walton vs. Lassiter the game of the week to watch in AAAAA?
By Todd Holcomb
October 19, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
WHY IS NORTH CLAYTON NOT RANKED THEY ARE BY FAR THE BEST METRO TEAM IN AAAA.
Not according to Banneker.
what did you think about the stephenson win over MLK
Surprised it wasn’t close. But Stephenson needs to hammer Union Grove if the Jags want to be ranked. Otherwise, it’s just going to look like a mediocre region where nobody is stepping up.
Looks like Walton and Union Grove will have their work cut out for them this week to keep in the top 10. They lose, who will get in?
I predict that the winner of the Norcross-Peachtree Ridge game Oct. 31 will be ranked Nov. 2. But I don’t think Walton is losing.
By robert
October 19, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this
to TJ Camden was given and caused so many turnovers in their game against a very youg Johnson team that they could not help but score. This all happened in the first half. They played with moving clock and reserves in second half. the young kids need experience in game situations also. Coach Herron does not run up the score on any team. he will play everbody on the roster and it is to the opponent to stop them, sorry.
By GraysonFan2
October 19, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
Yes, Grayson did hold back, thats what they do. They dont want to stand out and make to many others take to much notice by running up a score. Hey to be honest there were a lot of key plays missed by a lot of slipping and sliding down, this was not a game to judge either team by, lol. Cant explain the 3OT with South and Parkview? Maybe it was the same thing, the rain. There has not been much rain to practice in the pass couple years. We will call them RAIN ROOKIES.
Norcross/Ptree Ridge game should be a big one!
By GraysonFan2
October 19, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
Why didnt anyone take notice of Loganville’s female kicker for four years straight? She is in her first year at Clemson University on a full scholar for soccer. WHats up with Loganville anyway, they are playing like winners.
TODD, Were do you rank Loganville in the 4A region?
By Dekalb Dominance
October 19, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this
Saw the MLK - Stephenson game, it was not even close. It was obvious MLK could not match up with Stephenson player for player. Not even close.
Can you believe Stephenson did not even throw one pass? They are really going to have to pass if they are going to make it any kind of run in the playoff. Too easy to just stack the box. But their defense is one of the best I have seen in years.
By MIKEMIKE
October 19, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this
CAIRO WILL BE READY FOR PERRY FRIDAY NIGHT. GO SYRUPMAKERS!!!
By Todd Holcomb
October 19, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this
TODD, Were do you rank Loganville in the 4A region?
Loganville probably will win the region title, but I don’t think anyone can say Loganville is better than Clarke, or vice-versa. In fact, that’s probably the most balanced region in the state among those top 5-6 teams. The Maxwell Ratings say Loganville is 0.86 points better than Clarke, fwiw. That sounds about right to me.
By the way, I don’t think Loganville has ever won a clear-cut region title, although they fanagled a No. 1 seed in 1991.
By WACO-FAN
October 19, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
GO WACO!!!!!! 51-10 we lost the shut out streak but we gain a whole half of rest for our starter’s so we can be ready for a str8 burke county team……and do anyone know what a syurpmaker is??????????
By John
October 19, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
The 7-AAAA #1 seed is going to be thrown in a bracket with a second round matchup against the #3 team from 6-AAAA should both teams win in the first round. A Rome (they are looking like the team to beat in northwest Georgia) game againt Tucker or Southwest DeKalb would be interesting.
By Joe
October 19, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this
Mays will be ok Banneker wasn’t a bad team and Mays just lost it’s not nothing to worry about.
Go Mays!!!
By GraysonFan2
October 19, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
You are correct about Loganville, it will be their first if they hold on. My son played with Jeremy Thomas in 1997-2000, they did ok then. Im very excited about this group of seniors at Loganville, they have been dominating since little league and are not shocking a lot of us this way. They are missing one key player that moved a few years back and is with Grayson now, Greg Zellner. He was a high scoring quarter back for the Devils back then. I hear Clemsen is interested in him and rummer has it, he visited lemsen a couple weeks back, GO GREG!! WE knew you would make it to the next level!
By DSGB
October 19, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this
WACO-Fan, A “Syrupmaker” is something that sticks to you and you can’t get it off of you. Keep winning and you will find out soon!!!!!!
By UpsonLeeFan
October 19, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
WATCH OUT FOR UPSON LEE!!! THEY RUN THE VEER OFFENSE. They Are Nasty With It. Even Tho They Are 2-5. They Still A Dangerous Team.
By beleiver
October 19, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this
Stephenson was impressive friday. i think they have a solid chance in the playoffs. Not a great passing game but enough to keep folks honest. That defense is ridiculously good. I think the d is better than when ball, cunningham, shepphard, and riley were there in 2005.
By Old Lion
October 19, 2008 11:46 PM | Link to this
Todd,
You get no love when you play on a Saturday! Any thoughts on the St Pius/Washington game? It sure was fun to watch. How do you think Pius might match up vs. Dunwoody?
By Chris
October 20, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this
Todd, I think the game to watch this coming week in Class AA is McIntosh County Academy vs. Appling Co. I have been saying all year to watch out for MCA. They just destroyed a good Tattnall Co. team and Appling has to come to Darien to play. Should be a great game! Go Bucs!!
By RIP
October 20, 2008 5:30 AM | Link to this
I don’t think you can call Thomasville a disappointment. They lost to #1 in AAA, #6 in AAAA, #7 in AA and a questionable lost to a AAAAA school.
By Truth
October 20, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this
Why are you hating on Banneker? Banneker had a bad first quarter against Villa Rica, settled down, and mysteriously had 1 TD’s called back in the second half by the ref who threw the flag after the player went into the endzone after a 50+ yd TD and called a hold in the backfield, as well as another drive that would have resulted in a TD mysteriously halted by a phantom flag thrown by the same official.
That game was closer than the score. The way you are talking Banneker is the equivalent of the Cincinnati Bengals.
By Chris Whitfield
October 20, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
For those wondering about the Region 5-AAAAA tiebreaker should Etowah, East Paulding and Harrison all finish with 9-1, 8-1 records, I just got off the phone with region secretary Jeff Wheeler and here is the breakdown:
If all three finish with the same record, then Harrison would be the No. 1 seed because their non-region win came against a AAAAA team. Then, East Paulding would be No. 2 because of head-to-head win over Etowah. Eagles would be No. 3. Long way to go, but some of you fans wanted a definitive answer.
By thebull35
October 20, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
It figured to only be a matter of time for Mays to get figured out. Their offensive coordinator is a joke and does not know how to make adjustments. Just take a look at their point totals and see how they have decreased from the beginning of the season. They went from scoring 4 and 5 touchdowns a game to barely scoring two. I saw this same trend last year when he was the O.C. at North Atlanta. They barely scored two touchdowns a game (13 points per game) last year and are averaging 24 points per game this year (and last year’s team had WAY more talent than this year’s team does). The only reason Mays has had the success that they have had is because they have just been more talented on offense than other teams have been on defense. You see what happens when the opposing team is just as talented as the Raiders are? Their defense is talented enough to keep them into games, but their offense will be their downfall.
By WolverineDad
October 20, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Don’t you think this week’s winner of the Flowery Branch (6-1) and West Forsyth (6-1) game should make your top 10 for AAA?
By jaberwocky
October 20, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
With 1 minute and 30 seconds Camden took a knee and did not score before the half ended. The punt was blocked and the sophomore scored and the last one was an interception. The offense of Camden did not score in the second half. With almost 10 minutes the first team tackles left the game and did not return and the second tackles did not return in the second half and the defense began to sustitute half way through the first quarter. Their quarter-back was just a sophomore and looked great. T.J. believe me Coach Herron never runs it up and will play as many as he can.
By Todd Holcomb
October 20, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Can you believe Stephenson did not even throw one pass? They are really going to have to pass if they are going to make it any kind of run in the playoff.
Lowndes threw one pass (incomplete) against Northside, which has one of the best defenses in the state, and won 24-7. So I don’t know about that.
re: Camden
If a school with AAA enrollment insists on playing AAAAA, then Camden can’t be held responsible for any embarrassment that results.
Don’t you think this week’s winner of the Flowery Branch (6-1) and West Forsyth (6-1) game should make your top 10 for AAA?
Somebody probably would need to lose to make room. But those teams are on the short list along w/ Stephens County and Eastside. Then there’s undefeated Jackson.
I don’t think you can call Thomasville a disappointment. They lost to #1 in AAA, #6 in AAAA, #7 in AA and a questionable lost to a AAAAA school.
You’re probably right, but I had Thomasville ranked #3 in preseason. I was thinking T’ville would have only a couple of losses, but it’s four. But Thomasville is a very good team.
Why are you hating on Banneker? Banneker had a bad first quarter against Villa Rica, settled down, and mysteriously had 1 TD’s called back in the second half by the ref who threw the flag after the player went into the endzone after a 50+ yd TD and called a hold in the backfield, as well as another drive that would have resulted in a TD mysteriously halted by a phantom flag thrown by the same official.
I know that Banneker is a good team. But regardless of the circumstances, Banneker didn’t play Villa Rica close. Therefore, it’s hard to rank Mays when Mays lost to an unranked team that lost by 17 points to another unranked team. Banneker was pulled into the discussion only to explain why Mays wasn’t ranked.
By Devils Fan
October 20, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Jackson High School is the only 8-0 team in AAA. They have had 30 points scored on them this year. Why are they not ranked ?
By HSBallfan
October 20, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
I’m still trying to recover from the paralyzing fear inflicted by that Upson-Lee juggernaut, but I’m thinking Banneker, Villa Rica and North Clayton may be stronger than we thought; Mays and Sandy Creek not quite as good.
By AVikingfan
October 20, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
TJ: Walton and Lassiter will certainly be big in the Greater Atlanta area, but in South GA, Tift vs Northside and Coffee vs Valdosta are as big as it can get. I predict NSWR will make a statement against a good Tift County team, and Valdosta will upset Coffee. I just hope the Lowndes Vikings continue to do good and take care of business against Houston County! If things keep on going like they have been, and NSWR plays Camden in week 2 of the playoffs, they should hold the game in Jacksonvile at Alltel stadium (aka Gator Bowl)!!! I just wish the semi’s were still in the dome!
By Trojan fan for life
October 20, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
It still humors me to see how Banneker still doesn’t get any respect after a big win. Nobody gave us a chance in this game. We love being the underdog. After losing to Villa Rica everybody was talking about Banneker is not a good team.Banneker never stands a chance, just like last year when we faced Griffin in round one of the state playoffs. They were ranked #8 and look what happened to them. Everybody act like we can’t win. Don’t call the Mays game a upset. We played Banneker football. Maybe one day we will have some believers about the red and silver. Go Trojans!!!!
By AVikingfan
October 20, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
To dekalb dominance: In defense of Stephenson not throwing enough, Lowndes beat them in the dome without throwing a pass in 05, and beat North Gwinnett for the state championship last year chunking it only once. Colquitt passed over 30 times against Lowndes this year and we won 51-0! DEFENSE wins high school games usually. But I agree that the ability to pass when a team wants to is important.
By Homet
October 20, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
For Chris:
Glad it got a bit chilly with the weather since I been takin’ all this HEAT on the blog…LOL!!!
Thanks for the info on the playoff picture…but as I posted on the other blog (which I can no longer find, did you drop it off) I think the 9-1 for ALL 3 teams is a VERY likely scenerio but it could also be EAST 9-1, Etowah 9-1 & Harrison 8-2…
I really look for at least Etowah to beat Harrison and they could easily lose this fridays match-up. EAST has it’s hands full with Kennesaw Mtn. then Cherokee before finishing up with Woodstock.
This thing could easily be Etowah standing proud at 9-1 with EAST & Harrison looking up with 8-2 records, while I don’t think that will happen anything could. I hope 9-1 or 8-2 for any of these 3 teams will be good enough for the playoffs.
By Homet
October 20, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
RE-POST JUST SO YOU DON’T MISS IT
For: JAYBO
OK…Just so you don’t have a complete BREAKDOWN…First, I am just one person on this blog…No connection to the others, if they have in some fashion “copied” my posting style in your mind I don’t know what to say about that.
Second, I was not “In hiding” just a beautiful Sunday, Falcons on a bye week SO and we put the top down on the car and went to the mountains for a festival in Dahlonaga. GREAT TIME by the way!!!
Third…as for the name, I wish I could give you something meaningful about it but nothing comes to mind…HOMET is simply that, just a name to post under!!! I am a Paulding County resident and have a daughter that attends EAST so we of course follow and pull for EAST. THAT’S IT JAYBO….hope that clears it up for you.
By Big Pappi
October 20, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
HOMET - Some are saying Harrison is a little banged up, but I don’t know if Mceachern beats them. You guys look to have the toughest road. If you drop one, then winner of Harrison/Etowah champion. Simple enough!
By Todd Holcomb
October 20, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Jackson High School is the only 8-0 team in AAA. They have had 30 points scored on them this year. Why are they not ranked ?
Jackson certainly has dominated its opponents, but it’s been against one of the five or six weakest schedules in Class AAA. Every Top 10 would be 8-0 with Jackson’s schedule, and by similar scores. Maybe the Woodward game will tell us something, but even Woodward is no better than a middling AAA team. I wish Jackson had played good out-of-region opponents instead of Therrell and Putnam.
By UGH Wolverine
October 20, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Hey Todd, looks like Union Grove won a coin toss after all :O)
I was at the UGH/Luella game, it was a messy night for sure. UGH was down to their 3rd or 4th string tailback. Hopefully Donovan Johnson will be available against Stephenson, they will certainly need him.
Thanks for noticing UGH, hopefully we can win Friday and it won’t be short-lived.
By Jaguar Fan
October 20, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
To UGH Wolverine, Don’t worry yall wont win Friday
By Chris
October 20, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
Jackson certainly has dominated its opponents, but it’s been against one of the five or six weakest schedules in Class AAA. Every Top 10 would be 8-0 with Jackson’s schedule, and by similar scores. Maybe the Woodward game will tell us something, but even Woodward is no better than a middling AAA team. I wish Jackson had played good out-of-region opponents instead of Therrell and Putnam.
It’s great that these polls are totally meaningless. College should have playoffs and then we can stop worrying about the stuipd BCS poll. All you can do is destroy whatever opponents are on your schedule, and Jackson has done that to the tune of 197-30 this season. Kinda surreal for a guy who played on the ‘82 team, the first Red Devils team to go to the playoffs since 1963. The program has done a lot better since I left! Go Devils!
By Ubah Lee
October 20, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Why isn’t Pike County ranked?? They are 7—0 and leading their region — but you have the number 2 team (Callaway) ranked. They play on the last Friday of the season, I guess then maybe PiCoHi will get some respect.
By Swatguy
October 20, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Mays lost to a team with 6 “D-1” prospects. Lost by less than a TD. Villa Rica have been beating teams all year so there is now shame. Except dropping Mays “out of the rankings”. Mays lost by 4, Tucker gets crushed by 38. Thirty-Eight !!! and are ranked. This week will tell about the rankings.
By TheOne
October 20, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
How’s is Pike County High School not ranked in the top 10 in class AA? They are 7-0 and in the same region as Callaway (6-1). I have been to almost every Pike County game. This is a good team that deserves to be at least #10. We meet Callaway at the end of the season. To all recruiters we have a kicker named Dan Anderson that as kicked about 30 kickoffs for Touchbacks this year with 3 games remaining. He needs to be recruited. He would help out any college team and there kicking games.
By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
HSBALLFAN So what makes you think Sandy Creek isn’t as good as we thought? Only beating Fayette 3-0? I don’t see you hatin on Statesboro who only beat Glynn 3-0.
Fact is a win is a win, pretty, ugly, 1 point, or 50 points…it doesn’t matter.
What’s gonna be interesting is when Mays beats Villa Rica next week and theirs a 3 way tie at the top. Who gets the top spot in SubRegion B?
By SS99
October 20, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Who has the best Region in AAAA?? I would say that it is between regions 5 and 6!! Just last week Region 5 had two ranked teams (Mays #2 & Sandy Creek #3) and two more respectable teams (Banneker & Villa Rica). Region 6 now has three ranked teams (Marist #2, Tucker #9 & SW Dekalb #8) since Banneker beat Mays on saturday!! Also keep in mind that Villa Rica’s lone lose came to Pepperell who is the fourth ranked team in AA!!!! So what say you????
By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
to JUNO a.k.a. walker
Hey, Where’s them big bad Mays Raiders now? After getting beat by Banneker, They might not even make it to state! If Mays ends up # 3 on the B Side they’ll likely play WhiteWater again…They won’t make the same mistake twice! Better luck Next year.
By wildmanhoya
October 20, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
It sure is nice not to have to read all the talk coming from the county just west of Cobb.
By Newnan Fan
October 20, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Where is the talk about Newnan? One of best teams in 5A and not a word. They have shut out a number of teams, scored over 200+ points and have held the other teams below 30 total points combined??? Talk about no respect.
By ATL
October 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Mays was over rated to begin with. Chances are they will lose to Villa Rica and end up getting the #3 seed. Whitewater will put them home for state playoffs.
By Todd Holcomb
October 20, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Fact is a win is a win, pretty, ugly, 1 point, or 50 points…it doesn’t matter.
It doesn’t matter in the standings. But it does matter when discussing how good teams really are. And that’s what you were discussing, right?
How’s is Pike County High School not ranked in the top 10 in class AA? They are 7-0 and in the same region as Callaway (6-1). I have been to almost every Pike County game. This is a good team that deserves to be at least #10.
Callaway’s loss is to a good AAA team. Callaway and Pike both are undefeated vs. AA opponents, and Callaway is crushing them, while Pike is winning by one point.
I predict Pike goes 9-0, then loses twice to finish 9-2.
It’s great that these polls are totally meaningless. College should have playoffs and then we can stop worrying about the stuipd BCS poll.
I agree w/ you about a college playoff, but I don’t agree that polls have no meaning. The are a measure of how good people think teams really are, regardless of record. Fans say they don’t care about what others think of their team, as long as they win, but I’ve found very few fans who really live that.
By Chris
October 20, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Kell has to be listed as a “top surprise”. 2-8 last season, 6-1 this season, the only loss a close 17-9 game at Walton (was 10-9 for much of the 2nd half until a late Walton TD). Kell is not yet a top 10 team for sure, but they’ve had a great turnaround.
By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
*Newnan Fan *
Newnan is the moose in the room, everybody knows they are there, but no one wants to talk about them.
Lowndes and Camden, both Nationally ranked don’t want to even consider that someone else in the state might be better than them.
Everyone else in AAAAA knows they are better than them.
Newnan has done their winning without boasting, so they have been quiet.
Three reasons you haven’t seenmuch about Newnan.
By AJC Freelancer
October 20, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
TJ: South had every opportunity to beat Parkview by 2 or 3 touchdowns, but turnovers in the red zone killed them, as you probably witnessed.
Beleiver: Stephenson’s 2005 defense surely had star power, and if this year’s crew is as productive, I hope the editors send me to one of their games before season’s end.
By dj
October 20, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
wildman, You must mean PC….Nothing that comes out of that county west of Cobb holds a candle to the s%$t coming from the school on Due West, you and that “other Hoya” are the biggest talkers and braggers on this board-PERIOD!.. always trying to sneak in a jab when nothing is being said. God it sucks having to root for McEachern but GO INDIANS!!
By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter in the standings. It does matter when discussing how good teams really are
So what you are saying is that your standings aren’t an indication of how good a team is? Then why have them?
By Tom
October 20, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Just wondering why you have listed Charlton County as a disappointment when you have them ranked 6th in AA and they have a record of 6-1?
By JJ
October 20, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Sandy Creek is way too high at #3 for AAAA… I know they are undefeated, but they have no significant wins in my eyes… Marist and Rome lost to two good teams in games that could have gone either way and both should be ranked ahead of SC in my opinion
By Chris Whitfield
October 20, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
So what you are saying is that your standings aren’t an indication of how good a team is? Then why have them?
Standings and rankings are two different things, Hammer. Todd was addressing the fact that one team was ahead in the region standings at this point, but the other team was ahead in the rankings.
By Homet
October 20, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
For Big Pappi
Assuming Harrison wins out & Etowah wins out but if either of you have another loss and EAST wins all 3 we have a different picture…It is looking like everything is going to come down to that last week since Etowah & Harrison play each other then and EAST plays Woodstock that week. This is enough to give us all a headache….LOL!
By wildmanhoya
October 20, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
dj
Me a braggert? Don’t think you have read much about me bragging. Maybe a little but not enough to warrent the response you just laid on me. Sounds to me some people are having a hard time accepting they did not win a game against a team they were pointing to all year long. That’s what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket.
By its on
October 20, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Again, coach Herron will never run the score up. Everyone knows he is a very conservative coach. He will play 160 players if he have to. In the game against Fl., he played 5 quarterbacks.
By its on
October 20, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Again, coach Herron will never run the score up. Everyone knows he is a very conservative coach. He will play 160 players if he have to. In the game against Fl., he played 5 quarterbacks.
By lions64
October 20, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
The game was boring and stephenson’s drum line sucks!
By HSBallfan
October 20, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
1bighammer Nobody is hating on anybody. I was mainly suggesting that perhaps there’s not such a huge talent differential among the top six teams in region 5AAAA as we might have thought. Sandy Creek does not have a lot of impressive wins; struggling against Fayette County doesn’t strengthen their case. I felt the same way about Statesboro, doubly so about Evans, but no one ever sees them before the playoffs so it’s hard to get an accurate read. Not sure Westside is the super team they appear to be but Thomas County will help us make that determination in a couple of weeks. Anyway, if you examine the performance of Banneker and Villa Rica, it’s just possible we failed to regard them highly enough… on closer inspection, it looks like the region is more evenly balanced. I think Todd hit it on the head when he observed that there’s not a lot of ground separating #2 and #15 in the AAAA classification.
By Wildcat Fan
October 20, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
To 1bighammer So everyone knows Newnan is better than Camden huh? Just how did you come up with that? Well, newnan may or may not be better than camden but maybe no one is giving newnan respect that they want cause they haven’t had a statement game against a real quality or consistenet playoff success.
By Mays, What Happened
October 20, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Maybe the Mays players will concentrate on their next opponent rather than showing up at other games talking about the past. Wake up Hill is real!!
By JessicaG
October 20, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Todd Who do you think will win the Marist vs. SWD Game? Tucker vs. SWD?
By HSBallfan
October 20, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Ummm, can we have a time out on “_ don’t get no respect” whining? Newnan is ranked third. That IS respect. If the folks on this blog aren’t waxing poetic about them, it’s because we haven’t seen them play. Tell you what… if they win the state championship, I’ll write a song about them. Happy now?
By dj
October 20, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
wildman, You are correct. We got our butts whipped Friday. I’ll be the first to give it up to Harrison. However, it aint over yet and alot could happen the next three weeks. East could lose one or two. You could possibly lose one, two, or three (however, i think you will beat Marietta, and you should beat McEachern but it is a rival game). Etowah game gonna be a good one! Now, Etowah shouldnt look ahead because North Cobb when firing on all cylinders can beat anyone in this region. That will be a good game. I still think East will finish 2nd, Etowah 3rd, and Harrison 1st but who knows. Coming out of the region 2nd two years ago was great for us so I can live with that. Finally, all my eggs were not all in the Harrison basket. Yes it would have been sweet, but every week has been a rush here in 5AAAAA and I am glad we are here with some very good football teams. We lost to a better team on that given night, and I make no excuses or belittle your win at all. You guys got it done!! I really do think this region is very good, and our 4th seeded team will even give some people fits.
By Homet
October 20, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
For wildmanhoya
That’s what happens when you put all your eggs in one basket.
LOL! What do call what Harrison has done with Robbie Godhigh??? He is basically THE ENTIRE TEAM…Kid played offense, defense, special team, ya’ll even lined him up as your QUARTERBACK at least one!!! Don’t get me wrong…the kid is good, he ran OVER one of our guys on that 92 yard runback but in his case he is not only the egg, he’s also the basket!!!
By Big Pappi
October 20, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
HOMET - I can’t even think about all the scenarios any more this week. My head is pounding. Too many blogs’. I am going back to the let’s take them one game at a time approach. Of course you understand, I can not root for your team again this week.
By mikemike
October 20, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
HI WACO FAN THIS A SYRUPMAKER FAN DON’T WORRY WE ANIT GOING TO POU SYRUP ON U.
By wildmanhoya
October 20, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
homet
Whom and I to ever disagree with you or argue with you. Of course you are correct. That is just what the Hoyas have done, put all their eggs in one basket. In fact, if the truth were known he makes every tackle and also throws every block. Those other guys are really the same person wearing lifts in the shoes, padding around the waste, etc.
By beleiver
October 20, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
AJC freelancer come to union grove this week and check us out
By JUNO a.k.a. walker
October 20, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
To 1bighammer My Raiders had a minor setback this week. Banneker pulled a couple of trick plays out of the hat late in the ball game and won the game. If you were at the game you would have seen that Mays was up by two scores going into the fourth quarter. Banneker was a desperate team on Saturday and made two desperate plays. They knew they had to or their season was over. Great job Trojans (2 claps). They know who the better team really is. All this means is that instead of winning state with an undefeated record. Mays will win state with one blemish with a team that has no super stars and who lost 16 starters from last year’s team along with a new coaching staff. As I told you in the preseason, * Dont sleep on the Mays Raiders* Also, Todd it is probably better that Mays is not ranked anymore as it seemed that each team Mays has faced was playing with their very best effort. Now maybe their very young team can play with a more even playing field. Thanks!
By gofigure
October 20, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
I think it’s time to rank Jackson in AAA. They are undefeated and should go 10-0 heading into the playoffs.
By brox190
October 20, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Unless they have been holding back, Statesboro appears to be a weak #2 in the state.
By AVikingfan
October 20, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
To Todd. In answer to your question about who to rank now that East has been beaten, I still think PeaRidge will be standing tall when the regular season is finished. I’ve been on their band wagon since they came down to Lowndes earlier in the year. They have only lost to Harrison and Lowndes I believe. Keep’em in your radar sights. They are for real.
By football fan
October 20, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
By all means just call it what it is. Region 5AAAA has a alot of solid teams and no great teams. Banneker has done nothing consistently. They played a solid Saturday against a solid oppenent. It is not about respect or anything like that. Just line up and play… At the end of the season everyone will see who is the best… If your team does not win the state then you are not the best team in the state at that classification. Region 5AAAA and Region 6AAAA are paired together in the first round… That should make some interesting first round matchups…. Just let BHS and the rest of 5AAAA except Sandy Creek continue to play without the spotlight on them. People are making too much of Mays loss to Banneker and Banneker’s lost to Vila Rica… When you have teams that are as evenly matched as those three, things tend to happen the way they have. If you have a winning record against good competition then you have accomplished something in this short season… Just relax and let everything play out.
By T.J.
October 20, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Glad to hear it was fluke with Camden game. Camden coach probably gets a lot of experience for his younger players because of region. Another reason they are so good every year.
Parkview and South was a mess. It was like someone put Vasoline on the ball in the red zone for Parkview.
Grayson game sounds like it went as expected. Pretty much like the next 2 teams Grayson faces. Hope facing three straight weeks against lesser teams will not make them soft for the playoffs to lose the 1st or 2nd rounds. I have never heard of that Zellner player at fullback. The fullback I remember is “James Earl Jones”. Maybe I only remember JEJ because of his name. But again, it is hard to keep track of their best players. Grayson’s bench has to be one of the deepest in GA high school football. And second string could be stars at many other schools. They flat out wear other teams down. That is true AAAAA football right there.
By canefan
October 20, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
GO FITZGERALD PURPLE HURRICANES!!!BEAT BROOKS CO.
By WACO-FAN
October 20, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
who is jackson in AAA……who have they played to be ranked…….what have they defense did against them teams……..who is jackson????????
By Todd Holcomb
October 20, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Kell has to be listed as a “top surprise”. 2-8 last season, 6-1 this season, the only loss a close 17-9 game at Walton (was 10-9 for much of the 2nd half until a late Walton TD). Kell is not yet a top 10 team for sure, but they’ve had a great turnaround.
Good choice.
It still humors me to see how Banneker still doesn’t get any respect after a big win. Nobody gave us a chance in this game.
A lot of people gave you a chance against Mays. I think your coach just did a good job of making you believe the world was against you.
So what you are saying is that your standings aren’t an indication of how good a team is? Then why have them?
When I say standings, I’m talking about W-L records and region standings, that sort of thing. What I do is rankings. In rankings, a team with two losses (i.e., Carver) might be ahead of an undefeated team (i.e., Jackson). Standings tell you who’s got the best records, which can be deceiving until all the games have been played. Rankings should tell you how teams have performed, taking into consideration the scheduled played.
In answer to your question about who to rank now that East has been beaten, I still think PeaRidge will be standing tall when the regular season is finished. I’ve been on their band wagon since they came down to Lowndes earlier in the year. They have only lost to Harrison and Lowndes I believe. Keep’em in your radar sights. They are for real.
I agree.
I think it’s time to rank Jackson in AAA. They are undefeated and should go 10-0 heading into the playoffs.
I don’t agree.
Who do you think will win the Marist vs. SWD Game? Tucker vs. SWD?
Marist and Tucker.
Sandy Creek is way too high at #3 for AAAA… I know they are undefeated, but they have no significant wins in my eyes… Marist and Rome lost to two good teams in games that could have gone either way and both should be ranked ahead of SC in my opinion.
That’s a good opinion. I can accept Marist & Rome ahead of Sandy Creek. However, one might also argue that to be No. 3 in AAAA, you should beat the No. 3 team in AAA, which Marist did not. Rome lost to East Paulding, which is excusable, but has no more good wins than Sandy Creek. SC has two nice wins in East Coweta (a 5-2 team from AAAAA) and Whitewater. But as I said, I could see rankings those teams any which way.
By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Chris Actually Todd said it doesn’t matter in the standings. I should have clarified and said “So what you are saying is that your rankings aren’t an indication of how good a team is? Then why have them?
Wildcat Fan you misread what I meant! I meant that Everyone else knows they are better than their team.
By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
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By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
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By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
hsballfan Where exactly are Banneker and Villa Rica’s impressive wins?
By slalom1
October 20, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
TODD, I must agree that Sandy Creek is dramatically over-rated. Extremely weak schedule. The only “nail-biter” of the year came against AAA Shaw(2-6) by a 17-16 margin. Not that Shaw is a bad team. To the contrary, Shaw is a pretty good team who finds ways to lose the close ones. Speaking of Shaw, the Raiders will most likely enter the play-offs as a #3 or #4 seed with a record of 4-6 or 3-7. But getting back to Sandy Creek: Besides Shaw, who have they played?
By AVikingfan
October 20, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Did someone say Tift and NSWR are playing Thursday night?
By AVikingfan
October 20, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Where are the Coffee County and (Valdosta) Wildcat people? Can’t believe none of’em are posting. Come to think of it, NSWR and Tift are staying pretty quiet too. Probably the best two games in the whole state this week. I’m standing by my prediction, NSWR and Valdosta in an upset! (But NSWR better be ready, Tift can play football!
By Chamblee Bulldog
October 20, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Chamblee will finish the season 7-3 and out of the playoffs. Although this is a good won-loss record, this team was expected to do much better than this especially after what they accomplished last year. Yes, they lost a couple of good players from last years team but the core skilled position players returned.
The offense the new coaching staff is running is just awful. They are not utilizing to the fullest their returning skill players, Warren Norman, Garrett Williams and Darius Jones. These 3 guys are good athletes and could have carried this team deep into the playoffs if they had been used the way they were used last year. I hate it for all the kids on this team their season will be coming to an end in 3 weeks. This is a talented offensive team.
I will say the new coaching staff did implement a more agressive defense this year.
By rw
October 20, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Please everyone your teams play “on the field” speaks way louder than anything else. This Friday night a lot of eyes will be awakened. “To Be Continued”
By HSBallfan
October 20, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
By 1bighammer:Where exactly are Banneker and Villa Rica’s impressive wins? Well, that’s my whole point. When everyone in the region plays largely within the region, it’s hard to measure their overall strength. Banneker has beaten North Clayton and Mays, losing to Villa Rica which has lost only to a highly ranked AA team. Sandy Creek, Mays and Whitewater have all struggled at times. Not trying to put anyone down, just wondering about the region’s overall power rating.
By HPhil
October 20, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
I don’t understand why Harrison didn’t move up in the polls? They looked as good as any high school team I have seen on TV. Godhigh and others were injured. Did the injuries cast them a place in the poll? I suspect Godhigh will be back in time for the playoffs. I am impressed with the replacements sent in as well as the offensive line. I think they can beat the remaining teams handily without Godhigh because of this. With Godhigh they may be able to go #1 or 2. I don’t think he is getting the respect he deserves. Maybe if he was four of five inch’s taller?
By HPhil
October 20, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
Any word on the Harrison injuries. will Godhigh, Turnipseed, and Mears return?
By HSBallfan
October 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
By Chamblee Bulldog: Chamblee will finish the season 7-3 and out of the playoffs If Chamblee finishes 7-3 they will be the number four seed in region 6 and play the top team from region 5. Unless the Bulldogs find a way to lose to Miller Grove, in which case they would be 6-4 and out of the playoffs.
By VRforReal
October 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this
Villa Rica has flown under the radar all year, this team is for real and very dangerous. Respect needs to be earned for sure but be aware of the CATS they are coming for you!
By 1bighammer
October 20, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
All of ya’ll are right.
Sandy Creek is weak, from a weak region, haven’t played anybody (your team included),and only beat AAAAA Perrenial Playoff team East Coweta by a touchdow