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AJC High School Football rankings: August 18, 2008
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I read Saturday where only five college teams in the last 30 years have won national championships after starting the season No. 1 in the Associated Press poll. In Georgia high school football, it’s not that unusual. This decade, 15 of the 40 teams that we’ve picked No. 1 in preseason won state championships.
That’s good news for Lowndes, Ware County, Cairo, Buford and ECI — our No. 1 teams to start the 2008 season.
ECI is the closest thing to a lock, but for the rest, I think the chances are less than 50-50. Lowndes should be tremendous, but the return of Northside-Warner Robins and the depth of Class AAAAA will make it tough for anybody. Ware is the team to beat in Class AAAA, but it never has won a state title, and there’s a new coach. I almost put Tucker No. 1.
In Class AAA, everybody likes Cairo, but Carver-Columbus is the defending champion with Jarvis Jones, perhaps the best player in the state. In Class AA, Buford returns only five starters in a classification that picked up Henry County and Westminster from AAA.
OK, let’s hear it: Which teams are overrated? Which teams were snubbed?
Class AAAAA
1. Lowndes
2. Northside-Warner Robins
3. Camden County
4. M.L. King
5. Newnan
6. Grayson
7. Norcross
8. North Gwinnett
9. Valdosta
10. Harrison
Class AAAA
1. Ware County
2. Tucker
3. Westside-Macon
4. Thomas County Central
5. Rome
6. Griffin
7. Chamblee
8. Bainbridge
9. Habersham Central
10. Marist
Class AAA
1. Cairo
2. Carver-Columbus
3. Baldwin
4. LaGrange
5. Shaw
6. St. Pius X
7. Perry
8. Dunwoody
9. Carrollton
10. Flowery Branch
Class AA
1. Buford
2. Charlton County
3. Thomasville
4. Henry County
5. Westminster
6. Fitzgerald
7. Lovett
8. Dublin
9. Cook
10. Greater Atlanta Christian
Class A
1. ECI
2. Clinch County
3. Wilcox County
4. Lincoln County
5. Athens Academy
6. Savannah Christian
7. Bremen
8. Twiggs County
9. Brookstone
10. Wesleyan
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By cougar fan
August 18, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Nice to see Newnan ranked at #5! It’s Cuga Time!!!!!!!!!!!
By Well, maybe
August 18, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Hope you’re right about Ware County, but a coaching change puts a gigantic if on the whole situation.
By T.J.
August 18, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
AAAAA is almost right. Changes I would make would just be the order. Move Gwinnett teams to bottom of the list. Too many players left those schools for college to be that good this season. Maybe they got linemen in hiding and you know the secrets? Let us in on the tips you got on Gwinnett teams. I would move Camden up one ahead of N.S. Warner Robbins. #11 is a team like Brookwood who seems to win the region and always make it to the playoffs somehow. I think all these teams will be in Sweet 16. Only a hand full will survive to move on. Region 1 AAAAA will be real interesting this year.
By Milo H.
August 18, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Where on earth are the mighty Pirates from Stone Mountain? They will be heard from in 2008!
By Old Gold
August 18, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Where’s Calhoun High School ? You know, the Double A powerhouse that just held pre-season #5 ranked AAAA Rome to three points in a scrimedge?
By Really?
August 18, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
I am interested in knowing how Harrison was rated so high in AAAAA at # 10. I didn’t think they were expected to be that good this year.
By Epnymous
August 18, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
LaGrange and 2 others from region 2 in the top 10 for AAA.
Wow. Another State title year for the Chattahoochie Valley.
Go Grangers!
By hotrod
August 18, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
who cares???
By Todd Holcomb
August 18, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
I am interested in knowing how Harrison was rated so high in AAAAA at # 10. I didn’t think they were expected to be that good this year.
Harrison was one of many teams that could’ve claimed the No. 10 spot. Could’ve gone with Stephenson, Brookwood, Walton. They’re hard to separate. But Harrison returns its starting QB and leading rusher and is always tough on defense. Harrison was a Top 10 team last season (beat Lowndes) until the inexplicable game vs. Campbell.
Where’s Calhoun High School ? You know, the Double A powerhouse that just held pre-season #5 ranked AAAA Rome to three points in a scrimedge?
I had Calhoun ranked until just about the last read through. Calhoun was not ranked in the final 2007 poll and graduated Urbano and Lamb. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Calhoun in the quarterfinals or the final Top 10. It was definitely a team on the radar.
As for Rome, Class AAAA is strange this season in that you’ve got Ware and Tucker that are unquestionably Top 5 teams, but after that, there are about 15 teams that have some serious pros and cons. Rome seems high, but there’s only about an inch separating No. 5 from No. 15. Rome did return 9-10 starters on defense and did shut out Calhoun in the scrimmage. Rome also has two or three RB’s who have gone over 1,000 yards in their careers.
Where on earth are the mighty Pirates from Stone Mountain?
I think they’re off Hairston Road. Used to live over that way. I’d love to see the Pirates ranked this year.
AAAAA is almost right. Changes I would make would just be the order. Move Gwinnett teams to bottom of the list. Too many players left those schools for college to be that good this season. Maybe they got linemen in hiding and you know the secrets?
A coach told me Sunday that he wasn’t sure Norcross could block well enough to stay in the Top 10 and could be ejected from the Top 10 quickly after the Camden County game.
I definitely think Gwinnett should have three teams in the Top 10. I’m not sure that Norcross, North Gwinnett and Grayson are better than Brookwood, Peachtree Ridge and Mill Creek. Bur NorX and NG have been awfully good the past two seasons and return some big-time recruits, and Grayson returns most of its starters from a Top 10 team in 2007.
Hope you’re right about Ware County, but a coaching change puts a gigantic if on the whole situation.
At least the new coach was an assistant, and the old coach didn’t go somewhere else and take his staff with him. So I’m too worried about Ware, but that’s always a pertinent question. Some other ranked teams have new coaches, including GAC, Bainbridge, Thomas Central and Harrison.
By t_height
August 18, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
I’m glad to see those Cobras of Twiggs County back in the Rankings. Time to bring home the title.
By t_height
August 18, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
I’m glad to see those Cobras of Twiggs County back in the Rankings. Time to bring home the title.
By t_height
August 18, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
I’m glad to see those Cobras of Twiggs County back in the Rankings. Time to bring home the title.
By t_height
August 18, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
I’m glad to see those Cobras of Twiggs County back in the Rankings. Time to bring home the title.
By xplayer
August 18, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Way off with Harrison! are you kidding me? Campbell beat them the last two years, they lost alot of player and have a new coach. They be doing good to break .500 this year
By doom
August 18, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
WHERE IS NORTHSIDE WARNER ROBINS… HOW CAN THEY BE LEFT OFF THE LIST?
By Toby Cash
August 18, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Todd, has Tucker and Stephenson had their scrimmage game yet? If so, do you know what the score was? Also, if they have not scrimmaged yet, then I apologize.
By B-Wolf
August 18, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Finally! Buford gets some PRE-Season RESPECT!
By swamprat
August 18, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
SOUTH GEORGIA DOMINATES GEORGIA HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL PRE-SEASON POLLS: Lowndes, Cairo, Ware ranked # 1, with Clinch and Charlton ranked # 2. Ware, Clinch and Charlton border each other, with Lowndes one county West and Grady (Cairo) 3 counties West of Lowndes. All five of these counties border the Florida line, which means that they are REALLY located in South Georgia. Also, four of the cities in which four of the 5 teams play are located on GA Hwy 84.
By John David
August 18, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
I’m interested to see how the Brookwood-Walton game turns out. Walton’s lost everyone but apparently still gets top 10 mention.
Your thoughts, Todd?
By To Doom
August 18, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Northside Warner Robins is on the list. They are #2 in AAAAA
By Todd Holcomb
August 18, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Todd, has Tucker and Stephenson had their scrimmage game yet? If so, do you know what the score was? Also, if they have not scrimmaged yet, then I apologize.
It’s Friday at Hallford.
By the way, if you’re interested in the scores of scrimmages last week, here’s a list compiled by “Big Play” Steve Slay, our super fan. If there are errors or omissions, let me know.
A list of upcoming scrimmages can be found here:
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/prepsports/entries/2008/08/11/thursday_chesta.html
Allatoona vs. Mount Paran Christian
Armuchee 14, Gordon Central 12
Bradwell Institute 14, Statesboro 14
Bremen 27, Whitefield Academy 27
Cairo 54, Clarkston 0
Camden County 35, Charlton County 0
Campbell vs. Kennesaw Mountain
Cartersville 35, Woodland Cartersville 21
Carver Atlanta 34, Mundy’s Mill 7
Cedar Shoals 17, Lakeside Evans 14
Chamblee vs. South Cobb
Chapel Hill 28, Douglas County 7
Chattahoochee 21, Centennial 13
Chestatee 33, East Jackson 15
Collins Hill 20, Berkmar 0
Creekside vs. South Atlanta
Crisp County 27, Upson Lee 14
Dacula 22, Buford 16
Dalton 30, Coosa 7
Dunwoody 49, Cherokee 7
Eagle’s Landing vs. Pike County
East Coweta 22, Starr’s Mill 13
East Hall vs. Riverside Military
East Laurens 27, West Laurens 0
East Paulding 30, Hiram 3
Effingham County 14, Tattnall County 0
Etowah vs. Sequoyah
Evans 26, Emanuel County Institute 21
Fitzgerald 27, Coffee 7
Georgia Military vs. Treutlen
Gilmer 10, Murray County 0
Habersham Central 13, Stephens County 12
Harris County vs. Manchester
Jackson vs. Union Grove
Jefferson County 30, Burke County 14
Laney 21, Josey 8
Lassiter 21, McEachern 17
Lithia Springs 14, Riverdale 14
Mays vs. Therrell
Meadowcreek vs. Mt. Zion Jonesboro
Newnan 54, Whitewater 7
Northside Warner Robins 14, Westside Macon 0
Peach County 7, Warner Robins 0
Pepperell 63, Southeast Whitfield 19
Perry 19, Houston County 7
Pope 15, Pebblebrook 14
Ridgeland 34, Dade County 14
Rockmart 28, Paulding County 7
Rome 3, Calhoun 0
Roswell 21, North Hall 19
South Gwinnett 19, Loganville 13
St. Pius 28, Gainesville 21
Valdosta 24, Worth County 0
Walton 28, Norcross 7
Washington County 28, Mary Persons 7
White County 20, Hart County 0
By joe
August 18, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Absolutly shocked not to see Calhoun on this list. Yeah Rome held the Jackets scoreless but we gave up the ball 5 times. Their #5 in AAAA is a joke. Do you get out of the perimeter much? 7 straight Region Championships should mean something. Coach Lamb has got more class than any coach in High School football.
By T.J.
August 18, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
I agree with you Todd. Grayson’s has most of the return players but the issue on both sides of the ball will be the line. Norcross is missing alot of pieces, almost would say they should be dropped if they lose. North Gwinnet has some core players that are leaders so that is a plus for them. So I will say Mill Creek will probably be in your top 10 within a month. They have enough players to make 2 teams to pick from. I never had Peachtree Ridge on radar due to Spring report. Halfway through the year Brookwood will surprise everyone again. Game of the year that will determine if Grayson or Brookwood wins the region will be on 10-10-08. Mark your calendars, I did. It is awfully quiet out here in Gwinnett between those 2 teams. No one knows anything about them. Corky Kell will reveal who has found some players on their JV stepping up. Did any Gwinnett teams scrimmage? How did they do?
By Cobb County fan
August 18, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
Should be interesting at Harrison this year. They have a new coach but he is familiar with the system. Their running back returns as do all the offensive linemen including the big center who is already committed to play D-1 ball out west according to the local paper and Rivals. They lost some good speed but the cupboard is not bare.
By Todd Holcomb
August 18, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Absolutly shocked not to see Calhoun on this list. Yeah Rome held the Jackets scoreless but we gave up the ball 5 times. Their #5 in AAAA is a joke. Do you get out of the perimeter much? 7 straight Region Championships should mean something.
Last year, Calhoun did not finish in the Top 10 in either the AJC or the AP polls.
This year, Calhoun must replace FOUR first-team all-state players: Tre Lamb (the AA North offensive player of the year, according to the GACA), Adam Urbano, Nick Davidson and Andy Elakman.
I’m not sure how it follows that it’s ”a joke” that a team that was unranked in 2007 should not start 2008 in the Top 10 under that scenario.
Having said that, everyone respects Calhoun and Coach Lamb, and if they finish in the Top 10 this year, I nor anyone will be surprised.
By Doc
August 18, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
You must be kidding!
ML King lost most of their offensive and defensive starters. Someone is playing a cruel joke.
By IMHO
August 18, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
In Class A, I have to agree with ECI being #1. I don’t see anyone stopping Ealey, with THAT O-line. However, I have a problem with numbers 2, 3, and 4. I would have to put Lincoln at 2 and bump Clinch and Wilcox each down a notch. Because, as tradition has it, the road to the Class A state title HAS to go through Lincolnton. Even though, I don’t think Lincoln Co can stop Ealey and ECI.
By yo
August 18, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Ranked #2 and 35-0.!!!! Not showing enough respect for Charlton.
I believe they return a lot of boys from last years team that was the only one to give Buford a little scare last year. Charlton returns a lot and Buford returns very few. It took Buford’s team for the ages last year to even squeak by Charlton in Charlton’s down year.
By Bill
August 18, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Just curious; Dublin graduated 1 starter from its lines (McRae—2 way player) and is eighth in AA? How’zit?
By J.J.
August 18, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
I’ve said for years now to many people that you can’t count on the clowns at the AJC to ever say anything good about Brookwood High’s football team. The bias is incredible so I’m not surprised that Todd didn’t rank them. Even when they went to the championship game at Loundes, the picture in the AJC was of Parkview.
By D.CASH of CARVER atlanta
August 18, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Now do yall agree that CARVER ATLANTA should be ranked?????!!! we beat da hell outa mundys mill..da only reason they even scored was because we put in our J.V….and they are a 5A school…..CARVER ATLANTA SHOULD BE RANKED
By D.CASH of CARVER atlanta
August 18, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Now do yall agree that CARVER ATLANTA should be ranked?????!!! we beat da hell outa mundys mill..da only reason they even scored was because we put in our J.V….and they are a 5A school…..CARVER ATLANTA SHOULD BE RANKED
By D.CASH of CARVER atlanta
August 18, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Now do yall agree that CARVER ATLANTA should be ranked?????!!! we beat da hell outa mundys mill..da only reason they even scored was because we put in our J.V….and they are a 5A school…..CARVER ATLANTA SHOULD BE RANKED
By whs'86
August 18, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the scrimmage scores. It’s tough to know exactly how things went just from a score, though. Was anybody out there at the Walton-Norcross scrimmage? If so, a recap please. For example, I talked with a friend who was at the Buford-Dacula scrimmage and he told me that Buford was up 16-7 and about to score when both teams pulled their yarsity players. Also was told that Buford had 2 td’s called back and racked up about 100 yds. in penalties.
By Todd Holcomb
August 18, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Just curious; Dublin graduated 1 starter from its lines (McRae�2 way player) and is eighth in AA? How�zit?
Class AA got stronger w/ the drop down of Henry and Westminster. Also, Dublin was about the 8th-best team last season in AA. The Irish got an easy road to the semifinals and were not as good as some QF teams, such as Charlton County.
I�ve said for years now to many people that you can�t count on the clowns at the AJC to ever say anything good about Brookwood High�s football team. The bias is incredible
Acutally, if there is one team that I am accused of favoring more than any other, it is Brookwood. I can’t tell you how many times in two years that I’ve defended having Brookwood in the Top 10 despite BW having a worse record than somebody that I ommitted from the Top 10.
Now do yall agree that CARVER ATLANTA should be ranked?????!!! we beat da hell outa mundys mill..da only reason they even scored was because we put in our J.V�.and they are a 5A school.
Carver needs to beat a ranked team before making the Top 10. That hasn’t happened in over 30 years.
**Ranked #2 and 35-0.!!!! Not showing enough respect for Charlton.
I believe they return a lot of boys from last years team that was the only one to give Buford a little scare last year. **
Charlton returns only three starters on defense and starts a sophomore QB. There’s no team in Class AA that is clear-cut No. 1 material on paper.
ML King lost most of their offensive and defensive starters. Someone is playing a cruel joke.
True, but after Lowndes, Northside and Camden, there’s no team that stands out. I originally had Newnan at No. 4, but despite returning almost every key player, Newnan didn’t play the kind of schedule last year that gives me full confidence.
MLK is definitely a shaky pick at No. 4, but so would anybody that I put there. For what it’s worth, MLK’s coaches seem to think the defense, which was awfully good last season, will be faster and probably better. The AAAAA defensive player of the year, Joel Kight, returns.
But you’re making me question myself, so you’ve got some good points.
By Cairo
August 18, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
I am glad to see the AJC finally recognizes that Football is played somewhere other than Metro ATL. Cairo will go wire to wire…. GO CAIRO!!!
By Dacula
August 18, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
hey whs 86: not true about dacula and buford scrimmage. buford returned opening kickoff for a touchdown and went up 7-0. dacula scored with 3 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter to go up 14-10. buford then broke about a 60 yard run at the end of the 3rd quarter to make it 16-14. the coaches then put their jv teams in. both teams had turnovers in the red zone. i don’t believe either coach played to win so a final score doesn’t mean much. the 2 teams were pretty evenly matched. buford was better on the line of scrimmage and at running back. dacula is better at quarterback and receiver. buford is as good up front as most class AAAAA teams. some good recruiting goes on there!
By Fan of the game
August 18, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Todd: Once Bainbridge gets going they are going to be a contender.
By chris
August 18, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
WASHINGTON PLAYS NORTH SPRINGS AUG 23 @ LAKEWOOD @ 10:00 AM. LET’S GO BULLDOGS ….
By slalom1
August 18, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
I am repeating myself,but will state once more that “dropping down” in classification will NOT turn Baldwin and St. Pius X into Top 10 teams in AAA. As for the AJC rankings for AAA, remove Baldwin, St. Pius X, and Flowery Branch. Insert Peach Co, Wash Co, and Troup. Also replace Dunwoody with N. Hall. How about the Peach Co win over 1AAAA WR?! How about Fitzgerald winning over 1AAAA Coffee?! Also, Perry over 1AAAAA HOCO?! WOW! Iknow. JUST a scrimmage. But somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. It simply further proves my point that the stronger AAA schools are more than capable of success against many of the state’s larger schools. Getting back to the rankings, once play-off time comes, do not look for St Pius and Baldwin to fair any better in AAA than they have in AAAA. In my “Top 10” pre-season picks, I had Troup, WACO, Peach Co, and N. Hall ranked. I stand behind those predictions. Troup may turn out to be the biggest surprise of all. A talented group of experienced skill players, 2 of the state’s top linemen, and 5 newly hired offensive coaches who all come with outstanding resumes, and a new look for the offense.
By Drago
August 18, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Well now Todd, you usually defend yourself pretty well and I am usually impressed at the level of knowledge you bring. However, how does last years schedule have any bearing on how Newnan is ranked this year. This is curious, if not fuzzy logic.
By John David
August 18, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this
I’m interested to see how the Brookwood-Walton game turns out. Walton’s lost everyone but apparently still gets top 10 mention.
Your thoughts, Todd?
By Reeze
August 18, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this
Slalom 1……….I agree with you ,”dropping down” doesn’t turn into instant success ,but I have to disagree with you on Baldwin and Pius ,Both are good programs with great coaching,both teams were semi finalists recently in AAAA .Baldwin returns one the best LB’s in the State ……AAA will be very strong this season and is the class to keep an eye on this year…….Peach Co. is back , They made Warner Robins look absolutely pathetic…..The main focus seems to be on Region 1-AAAAA…….Region 1-AAA will bring the house down this season. With,Cairo ,Peach and Perry it should get intresting .I hear they’re looking good in Cordele as well (Crisp)
By Roland
August 18, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
Lowndes will repeat as CHAMPIONS as much as I would like for someone to beat them. North Georgia will have to increase their intensity, aggressiveness, and total team play to compete against the likes of Lowndes and Northside.
Todd Holcomb you know this list means nothing because we all know Lowndes and Northside will go deep into the playoffs. MLK or Norcross or even Stephenson maybe, other than that no one else has the speed and talent…
By cpram61
August 18, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this
Newnan is very under rated N. Gwinnett and Warner Robins far over rated. Can’t wait to see Lowndes and Newnan in the finals. The farther south the better football gets.
By ktmoney
August 18, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
Tift co. got snubb they should have made the AAAAA top ten they have alot of talented debt comimg back from last yrs.team I guess that’s why you play the game on the field and not on paper,don’t be suprised as the season go along and you start to hear some noise from down here in the newly renovated “BRICK HOUSE BRODIE FIELD”
By cool cell
August 18, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this
Todd, I don’t get CSS on Direct T.V , so can I watch the Carver-Col Vs Cent. P.C, AL online?
By Jfan
August 18, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
I was a yellow jacket fan until I attended some of their games. It’s not real High School ball, it’s a production. Hal Lamb has about as much class as a trash can. When you play teams that you run all over, brag about it, recruit like crazy you DO NOT HAVE CLASS! Their schedule makes them look good, but when they play somebody like GAC, Dublin, Early Co. etc. They get HAMMERED!!! HOW CAN YOU CALL THAT A POWERHOUSE? I think this year will be the year of the fallen Lamb. They will be brought back down to reality where they need to be!! Cheaters!!!!!
By slalom1
August 18, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this
Reeze, All I am saying is that St. Pius X and Baldwin, as good as they may be, will not see much difference when it comes to play-off time. When it comes down to their regions, it depends upon the strength of their region. However, I will stand by my pre-season prediction that neither Baldwin nor St. Pius X will make it to the Top 10 at the end of the season. How about the WR loss to Peach? Hard to figure. Reeze, how do you see region 1AAAAA shaping up for 2008?
By slalom1
August 19, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this
YO, That was cold and cruel. GOOD! This is the “YO” that we all have come to know, love and hate. Stop taking so many naps and be your naturally confrontational self. WAKE UP BRO ! It is BLOG TIME! You sleep way too much.
By ph
August 19, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this
i was at the walton vs norcross scrimmage and walton has got a new stud in the backfield and the defense is tough they look real hungry i cant believe no one knows this
By slalom1
August 19, 2008 1:26 AM | Link to this
For those of you who may care Kendall “Big Skinny” Thomas died on Sunday night, 8-17-08. He played tackle for LG during the 2001 state championship season. At 5’11 348 lbs, I have never seen a kid so big with so much heart. His performance on the field was like that of a bull. Should anyone here wish to pay their respects, they may do so by logging on to www.lagrangefootball.com and sign the guest book for “Big Skinny”. He will be greatly missed not only for his play on the field, but most importantly for the great human being that he was.This tremendous loss has had a profound effect on the entire community of LaGrange, Ga. God Bless “Big Skinny”.
By drock08
August 19, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Todd not only I’m shocked at MLK at #4 but everyone think your reason is garbage. Last year schedule and didn’t we beat someone from MLK Region(Redan) worse than MLK did last year. Also when we beat a team like Whitewater who returns alot of starters from last year 9-3 team that loss to TCC by seven last year in the scrimmage 54-7 you see we are loaded and confident this year. As I talk to a local coach of a loaded AAAA this year Sandy Creek he told me he just glad they didn’t schedule Newnan this year. Lagrange will find out in 11 days. We got that SWAGG
By c
August 19, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Dublin is overated at number 8 in AA football they is a real sucky team in AA football and everybodu knows it
By Todd Holcomb
August 19, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Todd not only I’m shocked at MLK at #4 but everyone think your reason is garbage. Last year schedule and didn’t we (Newnan) beat someone from MLK Region(Redan) worse than MLK did last year.
Good point about the head-to-head vs. McNair. Keep in mind that I ranked Newnan at No. 5. That’s not what I’d call disrespectful.
or those of you who may care Kendall “Big Skinny” Thomas died on Sunday night, 8-17-08. He played tackle for LG during the 2001 state championship season. At 5’11 348 lbs, I have never seen a kid so big with so much heart.
Thanks, Slalom. Very sorry to hear about an athlete that young passing away. Seems like that 2001 team was playing just yesterday. That was a great group w/ Blake Mitchell, Sam Olajubutu and Skyler Thornton.
Todd, I don’t get CSS on Direct T.V , so can I watch the Carver-Col Vs Cent. P.C, AL online?
I’m not sure. I’ll see if I can find out.
Todd Holcomb you know this list means nothing because we all know Lowndes and Northside will go deep into the playoffs.
I agreed with you until talking with Conrad Nix on Sunday. He was preoccupied with enrollment numbers and told me that Northside was the smallest school in AAAAA and was truly a AAAA school based on current enrollment. But I also think Nix likes his defense.
**I’m interested to see how the Brookwood-Walton game turns out. Walton’s lost everyone but apparently still gets top 10 mention.
Your thoughts, Todd?**
My thoughts are that I could’ve done worse than put Walton in the Top 10. Walton lost about half its starters, but most of them were real difference-makers like Billy Burns and JJ Jackson. That’s why I didn’t stick the Raiders in the Top10, but maybe I should have based on the scrimmage Friday. Brookwood returns very few starters, but it’s Brookwood, a huge school with more depth than most anybody.
I think Walton is more ready for GM 1, and that would be my pick. …
Well now Todd, you usually defend yourself pretty well and I am usually impressed at the level of knowledge you bring. However, how does last years schedule have any bearing on how Newnan is ranked this year. This is curious, if not fuzzy logic.
Well, it’s like this: If I don’t provoke Newnan fans, it’s usually a boring blog. You know that as well as me. …
Truth is, I had Newnan at No. 4, then got cold feet as I thought about the reservations I had about the team last season. (Not that I want to re-visit that argument, as I’m still black and blue from it!) …
If I had to rank them now, I might flip them again. I’m also not one of those rankers who says the team ahead of you must lose before you can jump them. Let’s see how the season unfolds.
By duck3652
August 19, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
I find it funny that Griffin is ranked that high when they lost in the first round 41-7 to Banneker and Banneker is not ranked and they have more talent than they had last year. Out side of two big plays, they played Ware county well in the second round of the playoffs last year. Maybe they don’t deserve to be ranked but Griffin does not either if that is the case.
By NSHS ATHLETIC FAN
August 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
There are several reparable national rankings but for what it is worth, MaxPrep ranks Georgia all classification teams is this order. (Nationwide, I placed in parentesis) 1. Lowndes County (16) 2. Cairo (29) 3. Newnan (60) 4. Camden County (62) 5. Carver-Columbus (113) 6. North Gwinnett (124) 7. Northside-WR (145) 8. Tucker (235) 9. ECI (265) 10. Chamblee (361).
There must be something Newnan fans know. I was surprise Ware Cty was left out. The pre-season #1 in AAAA.
By Alan
August 19, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Doesn’t surprise me that Coach Nix is singing the enrollment blues. However, he has some great athletes on defense, so I’m sure he’s not too concerned in spite of what he says. Defense rules in high school football. Legendary Valdosta coach Wright Bazemore always put his best players on defense, always played for field position. He would let his defense put the other team in a hole and shorten the field for his offense. Coach Nix needs to do a lot of that this year. With respect to Lowndes and perhaps Camden Co., if Nix will use Bazemore’s defense-first style while developing his offense along the way, Northside will go deep in the playoffs and have a good chance to win another title.
By ths
August 19, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
we been out of form the past several years but i believe we are back to our old selfs again, so watch out AAA and region 3-AAA because THOMSON is back on the scene
By MBH
August 19, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Todd, how many starters do you think are returning at Grayson?
By P
August 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Newnan has that Rising Jr or Senior QB and WR combo that is awesome don’t they?
Can’t remember their names I just remember watching the playoff game.
By NHSfan
August 19, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
To P: The Newnan QB and WR are both seniors. The QB’s name is Russell Powell and the WR’s name is Alan Bonner. Alan was a All-State Wide Reciever last year and Russell was an All-State honerable mention. Russell was also the 4-AAAAA Offensive Player of the Year.
By drock08
August 19, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
Todd Newnan beat Redan last year in the playoffs not McNair. Also I think winning AAAA with a talented offense is not going to translate in the #2 team in AAAAA. To lose Ivory and that talented RB as well as some lineman is going to mean some trouble for NSWR in that talented region. They might be the 4th best team in the region behind Lowndes, Valdosta, and Coffee. To P: Come to the DRAKE on Aug 29 to watch Newnan vs Lagrange. Their will be so many college prospects on the field that night. If you can please pick Todd or Derrick up from their witness protection program and bring them down 85 South. Also the Super 11 is putting together rivals so call best players in GA. I can give you many more that deserve the recognition.Newnan Russell Powell Alan Bonner Ray Beno Lagrange Qua Huzzie Kennesaw Mt Jay Finch Westlake Chance Womack Bennett from Coffee Demps from Lowndes just to name a few.
By Drop Camden From Rankings
August 19, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
why do you continue to rank camden county in AAAAA? they play in a AAAA (or less) region and beat up on the smaller schools. they should not be ranked because of an annually inflated record by playing an annually under-inflated schedule. wake up ghsa and put them on an even field with the other AAAAA schools.
By J.Smith
August 19, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
In single A what about Whitfield Academy, they beat Twiggs in the 1st round of Playoffs. Hurt Bremen last Friday in a scrimage. And the top players are back from a region co champ team.
By T.J.
August 19, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this
Drop Camden from rankings??? Did you see who they beat in the playoffs last year? Yes they have soft regular season schedule, but they bring it every year. Guess they are like Brookwood, a team everyone loves to hate and shows up every year in the playoffs out of spite. And looking at their returning talent, they deserve a respectable ranking in the top 10. I would like to see a Grayson vs. Camden rematch. I will eye ball them at the Corky Kell and let you know if they are over rated.
By NSHS Athletic Fan
August 19, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this
To: By drock08, We know scrimmages are a means of seeing what you have and to put the right pieces in place. BUT friend—to suggest Northside should be rated 4th in 1AAAAA behind Coffee County. WOW! They got killed 27-7 by 1AA Fitzgerald. Tune in on 10 Oct. 08 when NSWR plays Coffee on their home field. Let’s talk after that game.
By Reeze
August 19, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this
Alan………..I don’t think Nix is singing the enrollment blues at all for this year, next year , maybe……Not that it really matters ,Northside can compete with any team.First , when the enrollment numbers were recorded ,NSWR was only a classroom or two above the 1850 mark.I think right now we are below 1850 , plus or minus maybe.The issue is next year when a New High school in Houston Co. opens its doors.Hoco and Warner Robins will take the biggest hits in enrollment i think, overall all three Warner Robins school numbers will drop, maybe Perry as well.
By slydog
August 19, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this
I have been by to see M.L King they are pretty good.
By Reeze
August 20, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this
drock08…………….”Whats a girl gotta do!”.What else does NSWR has to do to get a little respect ?.I’d bet the only time you’ve seen NSWR is on the tele…..If you notice , it’s never Our regular opponents or teams we’ve defeated in playoff action that gets on and talks smack. drock08 ,If you are region 1-AAAAA fan you’ll get your chance to see the Eagles Live and in Living color soon….Only 3 or 4 returning on the offense from the 2007 squad ,yes……The new O-Line blew holes in Westside’s D-Line all night long and Westsides D-Line is no joke.And running behind that new line is a kid that has all the makings of AAAAA player of the year.Mr Bacon is his name and taking it to the house is his game ,something we’ve been missing for a couple years here ,even with T Green.The Qb and wideouts are surely to get better as the season progresses….drock08 these new kids on offense playing behind T.Green ,Cooper, Bass Ivory , Oats and others for the past 2 or 3 seasons are an experienced group, hungry and ready to play ,it was very evident against Westside.Not much to say on defense ,but if your team has a average or mediocre offense ,it will get ugly.The defense looks quicker and much improved at the corners and free safety spots.#4 in region 1…drock08 ,region 1 is a strong region ,but not that strong.
By Clubhouse
August 20, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this
HINT - DON’T UNDERESTIMATE STEPHENSON THIS YEAR!
By slalom1
August 20, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this
drock08, You guys just up the road from us,(LG) have every reason to be pumped up.However, I must question your credibility when it comes to ranking Coffee Co over NSWR. Having said that, in Region 1AAAAA, anything CAN happen. Back to Newnan vs. LG in Game 1. There is no doubt in my mind that this may be the best Newnan team since 1992.(Maybe even better). Guess we will find out once the season begins. I have always felt like 1992 Newnan was among the best GHS teams to ever hit the field. I was there to experience the 19-3 butt kicking that the Cougars put on a VERY good LG team. In fact, during that same year, the state title game was played between Valdosta and Clarke-Central. The “Cats” won 17-14. During the regualr season, the same Granger team that was butt whipped by Newnan, put the wood to Clarke-Central 24-0. That says a lot about just how good 1992 Newnan was. My understanding was that the Newnan loss to Colquitt Co that same year was played on a rain soaked field, thus taking away the speed advantage of the Cougars. But getting back to 2008. The long time rivalry between LG and Newnan is one which I wish was played every year. Always a BIG game and always unpredictable. As for 2008, Newnan looks like the favorite.(In fact, my pre-season “Top 10” has Newnan at #2 in AAAAA.) But LG will bring a strong defense and probably the strongest kicking game in the state. As for the Granger offense, they have a new look and a few new wrinkles, along with QB Jamius Gunsby, a 6’5 213 lb junior who is already being recruited by quite a good number of major schools. Never mind all that. Since 2004, the Granger offense has struggled with consistency. Hopefully, 2008 will change that. If not, Game 1 will be a BIG win for the Cougars. On the other hand, the talent and experience that LG will bring is good enough to play with the best. My prediction is that unless LG beats themselves with turnovers,(which they have been very capable of doing for the past 3 years), LG wins. Otherwise, Newnan wins. Maybe embarrasingly so. Hope not. After Game 1, I will be pulling for the Cougars. This could be their year. Good luck to your Cougars,(after Game 1).
By Harry
August 20, 2008 2:10 AM | Link to this
MAYS RAIDERS
By Drago
August 20, 2008 2:40 AM | Link to this
Todd, not really trying to beat ya up—just a question. Actually, I don’t really care about rankings until the 5-6 week or so. As slalom spoke of above, the Newnan v Lagrange game should be a good one. It usually has been.
By drock08
August 20, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
To NSWR fans to Coffee prediction is off what I seen last year in Coffee in the playoffs. I seen a lot of heart and talent on that team and they return alot of starters. Losing to Fitzgerald in the scrimmage was a little shocker but I know Fitzgerald have a good team and it doesn’t matter if it is A or AAAAA. To the Lagrange fans as I go to Lagrange and watch practices I know this year can and will be special for Lagrange. If they didn’t play Newnan in the first game I think they would go undefeated but I believe at the end Lagrange will be in the Dome this year. Lagrange look very hungry and determined this year after last year shocker at Perry. I think Jerrius and the RB’s at LG are talented and very fast and the Defense led by Tristian Johnson and Qua Huzzie(the most underated LB) in the state looks very good. I have always like the Lagrange tradition eventhough Lagrange was a rival for me in high schools. Good Luck Slalom and the rest of the Granger Nation.
By Todd Holcomb
August 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
In single A what about Whitfield Academy, they beat Twiggs in the 1st round of Playoffs. Hurt Bremen last Friday in a scrimage. And the top players are back from a region co champ team.
Whitefield was one of three or four teams in Class A that I could’ve just as easily ranked instead of Twiggs or Brookstone. Hard to separate them.
Todd, how many starters do you think are returning at Grayson?
If not mistaken, Grayson returns about half on each side of the ball, including the starting QB and leading rusher return from a team that was playing Top 10 ball in November. The lines of scrimmage are a question mark. As I mentioned higher, ranking the top half-dozen teams in Gwinnett is hard. A team that I really like is Peachtree Ridge, but I didn’t pull the trigger on that hunch.
By Reeze
August 20, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
Todd Holcomb ,I really don’t get this new found hype for Newnan…..Even with a high number of returning starters from their 2007 squad ,Newnans 2007 season wasn’t at all impressive….A win against Whitewater.A blowout loss to Carrollton.Close games with Redan and Coffee.A close loss to NG,which Lowndes blew out.And other than E.Coweta all wins against sub .500 teams.
By drock08
August 20, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
To Reeze I would love for Newnan to play a overated NSWR team this year. Since we are talking about past do you remember what we did to a NSWR team that last time we played when NSWR was in the big leagues. I think it was NEWNAN 24 NSWR 0 and it wasn’t that close. That NSWR team was overhyped just like this one. This Cougar team as I keep saying didn’t have confidence in their abilities last year at the start of the season which explain the 8 point win at Whitewater and the loss to Carrollton. ASK Coach Teague of Carrollton why Newnan is not on the schedule this year. ASK Coach McCreary is this the same Newnan team of last year. 41-0 at halftime against Whitewater last friday.This team is loaded!!! I just can’t wait until we start in 10 days and make our journey to the Dome on a neutral dry field. We got that SWAGG
By drock08
August 20, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Hey Todd if you were a betting man on a neutral field who would you take Newnan vs NSWR. I know you have to take NSWR because you reanked them #2 based off last year team but deep down inside eventhough you don’t like Newnan I know who you would take if you were a betting man.
By Amazed
August 20, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
All this yapping about who beat who in scrimmages? Next you will talking aboutwhat what teams looked good against their scout teams in practice. Pools and scrimmages don’t mean squat. Get a life folks.
By Lowndes-Hater
August 20, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
I have to question the schools down south that focus entirely on sports rather than educating the students. Greg Reid must have a clear understanding of what is expected of him in high school when he has a 2.2 GPA and is still being allowed to play.
By NSHS ATHLETIC FAN
August 20, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
To: By drock08—In 2003 Newnan beat Northside Warner Robins. True, but why bring up the past? The teams players are all new. If it happened 2 years ago, a few of the same players would be playing in 2008. BUT since you did. Let’s see! Newnan has NEVER won a State Championship-NEVER. Newnan’s longest winning streak (11) was in 1992. Newnan longest losing streak, 12 occurred between 11 Nov. 2000 and 16 Nov. 2001. I see your neighbor LaGrange, won state championships in 2001, 2003, and 2004. Since you like the past, they also won it in 1991. Now, if you were LG, I could understand you bragging. Oh, by the way NSWR has won 30 straight. NSWR longest losing streak was 9 in 1965. Get It! Will NSWR lose this year? Maybe, but the opposing team will know they have been in a dog fight.
By drock08
August 20, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
The past was brought up refering to Newnan loss to Carrollton and Newnan schedule last year. But facts are facts and the last time Newnan played NSWR Newnan won. Only time will tell how this season will end up only thing I know if Newnan is healthy when the playoffs start I will take them against anybody across the state of Georgia. The best thing I love about my job is that I get a chance to see talent all across this great state and I feel confident in this Newnan team. Also I don’t know where you get the facts but Newnan has never loss 12 games on the field. Trust me
By pro style
August 20, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
WHITEFIELD ACADEMY VS. BREMEN SCORE WAS WRONG. WHITEFIELD’S VARSITY BEAT BREMEN’S VARSITY 14-7 AND THE SCORE WAS 14-14 INCLUDING THE JV TEAM. WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU AND THE OTHER REPORTERS AT AJC TO GIVE WHITEFIELD MORE RECOGNITION?THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD TEAM WITH ONE OF THE TOP QUARTERBACK’S IN THE STATE IN TREY MILLER. WHITEFIELD WILL BE A VERY GOOD TEAM THIS YEAR.
By NSHS Athletic Fan
August 20, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
TO:By Drock08, Newnan has never had a 12 game losing streak you say. For all——-and drock08 who is in denial. Goggle: “Georgia High School Football Historians Association”. Scoll down to: “Find your Team”. Enter Newnan. It is all there! Can’t get out of this one dog! You are right, the facts are Newnan beat NSWR the last time they played. They have only played 3 times, Newnan winning two. Since I acceted your fact, now accept the fact that Newnan has NEVER won a State Championship game.
By Camden Native
August 20, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
I am from Camden County. They have great assistant coaches and 1 bad head coach. It’s easy to win a state championship win you athletes on both sides of the ball, but what about when you don’t. Camden will do as they do every year and get kicked out of the 2nd-4th round of the playoffs because of the head coach inability to coach. Don’t be surprised! In his 10-12 years at Camden, 1 state title, and all region titles in the the weakest region in the state.
By Kelvin Manning
August 20, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
There is no doubt that Lowndes will win the state and national title or it could go to Valdosta to win the state title either way its gonna stay in Valdosta.
By T.J.
August 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Wow, dirt is flying everywhere,and I got more to sling.
I thought Camden was coached well from what I can tell. Not their fault teams in the region are losing their players to Camden.
Grayson defense is suppose to be one of the best with some mixture of speed and bone crushing hitters. Offense….there is one….I think
I am hearing Brookwood is rebuilding and hoping some young players can pull out a decent season. I mean really young, like out of the recreation league young.
Rumble in North Gwinnett is that they will have to outscore everyone to win. The season is on the QB’s hands. Maybe feet too because line has more holes than swiss cheese.
Norcross….running offense that needs no line.
That is all I have heard. But half the guys were tipsy when I got this info so do not hold me to it. Will keep the gossip fresh as I hear it.
By NSHS Athletic Fan
August 20, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this
Lowndes County is the odds on favorite to win the state AAAAA championship. That is, according to all reparable football media. Of course, some teams take exception to this belief. They appear to be deep at every position. What, I don’t understand is why there is a need to play Demps on both the offensive and defensive teams. Is there a weakness in Lowndes County’s amour.
By slalom1
August 20, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this
While all of this Newnan vs. NSWR talk is going on, I mighty as well add my 2 cents worth. As for 2008, I believe that the Cougars, along with NSWR will offer up the only serious challenges to Lowndes. The Cougars look mighty good on offense. NSWR looks equally impressive on defense. Both teams are solid on both sides of the ball, and well coached. No doubt in my mind, in AAAAA Lowndes, NSWR, and Newnan are heads and shoulders above all the rest. As for the Cougars having never won the BIG one, that is the truth. But, does not mean that they have never had the team who was capable. Aside from just some rotten luck, I believe that Newnan would have at least a couple of State Championship trophies in the case. As for NSWR, they will most likely add a few more in the coming years. However, 2008 is gonna be a tough year for anyone other than Lowndes to bring home “the Cup” in AAAAA. Good luck to both!
By drock08
August 20, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this
To NSHS Athletic Fan. Having been a Cougar follower since 1986 and only missing 3 games I KNOW Newnan didn’t lose 11 straight from 2000 to 2001. As for as Newnan and NSWR this year I am confident if we meet we will win its that plain and simple. I really think if we played in AAAA since are enrollment is about the same # of students around 2000 we would have won with that schedule last year. On a serious note I pray and hope NSWR football team have a healthy and joyful year as well as the rest of the teams across the state and the best thing about high school football is that the Champions are crowned on the field. Also my thoughts and prayers go to Big Skinny family and the whole Lagrange Football Nation may God Bless you all.
By drock08
August 20, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
To NSHS Athletic Fan: I went to the website and was puzzled that it had Newnan 0-10 in 2001. So I went to region standings in 2001 and our real record was 6-2 in the region and 7-3 overall. God Bless Phil 4:13
By grayson all the way
August 20, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this
grayson is definetley a powerhouse in region 8AAAAA.this year they have found some tough young guys who have come a long way on both sides of the ball. lookout for the GRAYSON RAMS in the 2008-2009 season.
By Drago
August 20, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this
Drock08, let me clarify the 11 loss thing. That year, Newnan had an offensive lineman that was in a distributive education (DECA)class that required him to intern at a job in the community. For some reason, he lost or quit the job. He did not tell the DECA teacher or the coaching staff. The DECA teacher did not visit the job site as required. The player did not have enough classes to be eligible. When it was discovered, we forfieted all the games we won. Fair enough. The player went on to a DI scholarship. The teacher and principal are no longer at the school.
By drock08
August 20, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
Thanks Drago I remember that situation with the young man and I truly understand the forfeit of games. I just knew that Newnan has never lost that many games in a row. 10 more days until kickoff. Get wit it or get rolled on
By Todd Holcomb
August 20, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this
*Camden will do as they do every year and get kicked out of the 2nd-4th round of the playoffs because of the head coach inability to coach. *
Trivia: Name the five coaches in state history who have won state titles at two schools where no state titles had been won:
Charlie Brake
Wayman Creel
Jerry Sharp
Ray Lamb
Jeff Herron
I swear you guys should be paying a subscription for this.
Lowndes County is the odds on favorite to win the state AAAAA championship. That is, according to all reparable football media. .
What is this ‘Lowndes County’ you speak of? Do you mean Lowndes? Just one my pet peaves, I guess. … Coffee County, Baldwin County, Cook County. It’s like nails to the chalk board to me.
But to the point, surely you don’t think Lowndes is a media darling. Lowndes is the darling of fans and coaches. Do a poll of any statewide demographic, and Lowndes is No. 1.
*Todd if you were a betting man on a neutral field who would you take Newnan vs NSWR. *
NSWR. Not saying I wouldn’t be nervous about losing money, though.
re: Newnan’s losing streak
Newnan’s losing streak in 2000-01 was the result of forfeits. A 7-1 record to start 2001 was turned to 0-8.
WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU AND THE OTHER REPORTERS AT AJC TO GIVE WHITEFIELD MORE RECOGNITION?THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD TEAM WITH ONE OF THE TOP QUARTERBACK’S IN THE STATE IN TREY MILLER.
The trouble w/ the Top 10 is that it’s all or nothing. The difference between #8 and #12 in preseason might be miniscule, but in print, it’s huge because one is ranked and the other one is ignored. I’m aware of Whitefield Academy’s talents and will be watching the Pack closely, but I just didn’t they are one of my Top 10 at the moment. Keep in mind this is a team that has won one playoff game in history.
Even with a high number of returning starters from their 2007 squad ,Newnans 2007 season wasn’t at all impressive….A win against Whitewater.A blowout loss to Carrollton.Close games with Redan and Coffee.A close loss to NG,which Lowndes blew out.And other than E.Coweta all wins against sub .500 teams.
That’s kinda what I was saying last season when I didn’t rank Newnan in the final Top 10. And that’s why I didn’t feel comfortable putting Newnan any higher to start this year. I’m expecting Newnan to be a legitimate state contender this year, but there remains something to prove from last season.
By Todd Holcomb
August 20, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this
The Associated Press rankings are out. The main difference between these and mine is that the AP voters gave more weight to last season while generally ignoring teams that dropped down, except Baldwin. Slalom1 must’ve voted in this one because I see no Henry County or Westminster.
People should just remember that Westminster beat Chamblee and Lovett last season and would’ve been one of the top four teams in AA in 2007. Not sure why people question W’s place in the Top 10 to open 2008.
Also, good for whoever voted for Sprayberry. I think this could be a surprise team and wish I had the nerve to rank them.
And who voted for Hillgrove? Or East Paulding? Egads!
And finally, what is this ”Coffee County”? It’s those nails again. They’re killing me!!
Class A
Emmanuel County Institute (6) 60
Clinch County 51
Wilcox County 43
Lincoln County 40
Athens Academy 29
Twiggs County 22
Brookstone 19
Bremen 14
Dooly County 13
Wesleyan 12
Others receiving votes: Whitefield Academy 7, Washington-Wilkes 7, Warren County 6, Savannah Christian Prep. 4, Commerce 1, Pacelli Catholic 1, Landmark Christian 1.
Class AA
Buford (5) 57
Charlton County 51
Fitzgerald 36
Lovett 30
Dublin 28
Calhoun 25
T7. Cook (1) 20
T7. Pepperell 20
Greater Atlanta Christian 18
Thomasville 17
Others receiving votes: Henry County 8, Dodge County 5, Swainsboro 4, Adairsville 3, Fannin County 3, Manchester 2, Westminster 2, Early County 1.
Class AAA
Carver-Columbus (4) 58
Cairo (2) 56
Shaw 35
LaGrange 33
Carrollton 25
Baldwin 19
Perry 17
North Hall 15
Stephens County 14
Dunwoody 9
Others receiving votes: Ridgeland 8, St. Pius X 8, Carver-Atlanta 7, Peach County 6, Flowery Branch 6, Cartersville 5, Thomson 4, Hart County 2, Worth County 1, Washington 1, Creekview 1.
Class AAAA
T2. Thomas County Central 48
T2. Tucker (2) 48
Westside-Macon (1) 37
Rome 32
Bainbridge 24
Marist 16
Chamblee 15
Griffin 13
Habersham Central 10
Others receiving votes: Statesboro 9, Dalton 8, Fayette County 7, Whitewater 4, Sprayberry 2, Hillgrove 1.
Class AAAAA
Lowndes (5) 59
Northside-Warner Robins (1) 46
Camden County 43
North Gwinnett 27
T5. Newnan 22
T5. Norcross 22
Brookwood 19
MLK Jr. 18
Valdosta 14
Harrison 13
Others receiving votes: Grayson 12, Walton 10, Peachtree Ridge 7, Stephenson 6, Tift County 6, Roswell 3, Coffee County 2, East Paulding 1.
By Joq
August 21, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this
What happen to Parkview they use to always be number 1 and winning championships?
I guess the top talent not going to Brookwood and Parkview anymore.
By T.J.
August 21, 2008 12:59 AM | Link to this
A.P. making you change your mind on your picks Todd? North Gwinnett and Norcross are way too high on the list. And Brookwood have something going on we do not know about? And the question on Parkview, they are wallowing in the basement with South Gwinnett now. Housing boom brought all out of town and out of state talent to new areas of town like Grayson, Peachtree Ridge, and Mill Creek. All new schools in new areas. Old schools in old areas are losing out on the talent now.
By slalom1
August 21, 2008 1:22 AM | Link to this
In AAA, NO way Carver-Col repeats. Shaw is also over rated, as is Baldwin. TODD, question: Would you rank Baldwin as Top 10 in AAAA? If so, okay. If not, NO way they are Top 10 in AAA. I agree that the AP is basing their rankings largely upon the success of 2007. They usually do. I am okay with that also. After all, this IS pre-season. But in the big picture, looking at play-off time, remember Troup, WACO, and Peach Co in 2008. Speaking of “dropping down” in classification, just finished running the numbers on Troup from 2000-2003 while playing in AAAA, as well as their numbers from 2004-2007 while playing in AAA. Just as Shaw, they faired much better in AAAA. Speaking of AAAA, aside from Ware Co and TCC, and the departure of NSWR, just exactly how many (or few) power house schools are left in AAAA? I can name at least 12-15 in AAA, but am at a loss to come up with more than 4 or maybe 5 in AAAA.
By TCCJacketFan
August 21, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this
Slalom 1: You are exactly right about AAAA. I looked at the whohle classification and except for 1-AAAA, and 6-AAAA, every other region is full of cupcakes. Most regions only have maybe 1 good team. The whole classification is down except for maybe 5-8 teams. Bodes well for any up and coming teams like a Bainbridge that need a little time to get used to a new system. Any dark horses that get hot at the end of the season will truly have an opportunity to get into the mix.
It’s a shame though because in 2007 I thought AAAA was the toughest classification overall. Now it’s probably one of the weakest.
By grizz
August 21, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
MLK and North Cobb face off week2 this will tell a lot about both teams. If North Cobb beat’s MLK will they be in the top 10 or was MLK just over rated?
By Leon
August 21, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
I read in the Waycross Paper that Ware County starting quarterback got hurt in their scrimmage last week ans will miss the operner against “Coffee” and also may miss two or three more games. Now that he is hurt I guess Ware County want win all their games this year. Not sure how the back up quarterback is. Does anyone know much about him. GO WARE COUNTY GATORS.
By Todd Holcomb
August 21, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
MLK and North Cobb face off week2 this will tell a lot about both teams. If North Cobb beat’s MLK will they be in the top 10 or was MLK just over rated?
The winner of that game probably will be ranked, but it also depends on how the teams do in Week One.
*Would you rank Baldwin as Top 10 in AAAA? If so, okay. If not, NO way they are Top 10 in AAA. *
Will have to get back to you on that. In a hurry.
But you were talking about Troup and the drop down to AAA. Let’s look at these numbers instead:
21 — The number of playoff games LaGrange won in AAA the past eight seasons (2000-07)
1 — The number of playoff games LaGrange won in AAAAA the previous eight seasons (1992-99).
For every Troup, there is a LaGrange.
By columbia blue
August 21, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
To drop Camden from the rankings
You are certainly a bonified idiot—-Look at Camdens Play-off record the past 5 years.
By NSHS ATHLETIC FAN
August 21, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
AAAA is weaker this year only because of the great lost of quality teams that moved up or down. NSWR, St. Pius, East Paulding, Baldwin, to name a few. However, as long as you have Tucker, Thomas County Central, Ware County, Banneker, and Habersham Central around— AAAA will be okay. I knew Slalom 1 would be upset when the AP overlook La Grange for the number 2 or 3 slot in AAA. NSWR will do it’s best to ensure on 12 Sept. 08 Carver doesn’t keep their # 1 pre season prediction. lol
By Observer
August 21, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
NSHS Bainbridge will be a powerhouse team in the years to come for AAAA.
By slalom1
August 21, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Getting back to AAAA in 2008, here are just a few numbers: Of the current teams listed as AAAA schools for the 2008 season, only 2 have won state titles during this millenium. That would be Statesboro in 2001 and in 2005, along with Marist in 2003. ALL the rest have either moved up or moved down in classification. NSWR(2006 and 2007) along with WR(2004) have moved up to AAAAA. Shaw(2000) and Thomson(2002) have moved to AAA. This gets even better, when looking at the schools in AAAA who have made the semi-finals since 2000.(I could only pull up 2000-2006) but during this era here are the numbers: 24 schools.(ONLY 7 are currently in AAAA). Those schools would be Marist-2002, 2003, 2006. Statesboro-2000,2001,2003, 2004,2005.Griffin-2005. Salem-2004. WareCo-2004(We all know that Ware Co made it to the finals in 2007). TCC-2002, 2003. Dalton-2001. Paulding Co-2001. I suppose my reason for running these numbers had a little bit to do with all the respect that everyone (including myself) seems to give to Ware Co and TCC. But, since the new millenium, of the remaining schools in AAAA, Satesboro(my birthplace) and Marist have carried the torch. Having said all that, take a look at AAA, and rather than 4-6 power house programs, there are no less than 12-15 teams whom are all capable of competing against THE best.
By Homet
August 21, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
Ahhh Todd, Todd, Todd, you just don’t get it…East Paulding opens at the “BONEYARD” next friday night with Rome coming in…let’s see what you have to say Saturday about GAME # 1 as the RAIDERS of East Paulding debut in 5 AAAAA!!!
and East Paulding plays Harrison at Harrison on Oct. 17th…
this is AFTER they play South Cobb, McEachern, Marietta, Etowah, & North Cobb…!!!
it’s about to get FUN!!!!!
By slalom1
August 21, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this
To: TODD HOLCOMB, Todd, should I ever decide to run for political office, I will find the financial resources to hire and appoint you “Chairman of the Spin Committee”. Regarding my beloved LG, you neglected to mention just a few important facts. Namely, regarding the 1990’s and the LG record in the play-offs, you selected to use the years of your choice to make your point. You also failed to point out that the 80’s and 90’s were the era of “Region Play-offs”. Naturally, no successful team will have the big numbers of state play-off wins during this era, because there simply were not as many state play-off games. So, when it comes to “play-off wins, include the region play-off wins. You also wisely elected to leave out the 1991 season when drawing the comparison between LG’s performance while in the state’s largest classification vs. their numbers in AAA. Let’s be fair, and not randomly select the years of your choice. Let’s go all the way back to 1980 if we are going to fairly play the “numbers game. In the 1980’s you had a “regular season champion, and a “Region Champion”, following the region play-offs. These region play-offs would often be re-matches of games played during the regular season.(Mighty tough to beat a very good team twice in the same season). Here are the facts regarding LG : During the 1980’s-(1980-1989), 4 region championships and 2 regular season region championships. Also, 4 state semi-finals, and 1 state runner-up.(rather not talk about that). Overall play-off record:16-8. The 1990’s-(Keep in mind this was somewhat of a transitional era, marking the end of Coach Guthrie’s tenure and the beginning of the Pardue era, which got off to somewhat of a shakey start.) Regardless, you conveniently left out the numbers for 1991. The bottom line for the 1990’s (1990-1999) would be 2 regular season region titles, 3 region titles, 1 state title, and 1 (Oh yes) NATIONAL title. Overall play-off record for the 1990’s-6-4. There should be an * by the 6-4 play-off record considering that LG had to face Region 1AAAA for 3 years in a row in the first round of the state play-offs.(This was during 96, 97, and 98, when LG could have otherwise gone deep into the state play-offs). (For those too young to remember, AAAA was the state’s largest classification during this era.) Getting back to AAA vs. AAAA, here is another one for you. Where has Thomson been since “dropping down” from AAAA to AAA? How about this one: How has M.L. King done so well in AAAAA after having been so marginal in AAA? Not intentionally trying to be confrontational, but after having proof read this, it sounds a little bit like that. Just trying to throw the facts out as I see’em.
By slalom1
August 21, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this
NSHS ATHLETIC FAN, I am actually okay with the pre-season rankings. Afterall, that is exactly what they are. PRE-SEASON. I feel the same way about the scrimmage games. They show a little something, but don’t really play into the big picture. As you may be aware, Carver-Col is playing tonight on CSS vs. Central-Phenix City, a traditional Alabama 6A powerhouse. However, Coach Dell Mcgee has already made it clear, that he will not play his starters for much of the game. The NSWR vs. Carver-Col match up should be a good one. Carver will bring a VERY strong defense. Good enough to play with anyone. However, I would look for NSWR to be just as good on defense, and much better on offense. The kicking game and special teams will favor NSWR. Look for most of Northsides’s points to come on ofensive turnovers and special teams mistakes. I do not see anyone driving the ball all night against the Carver defense. NSWR will win. Maybe BIG. But, if Carver can minimize the mistakes, it could be a close game.And possibly,(not likely) a Carver upset. But only if Carver does not beat themselves.
By SparrowCat45
August 21, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
No more foolin’ around. Newnan was a fluke, It’s time to get serious. The news from the doctor says Thomas Richards will be starting for us against Douglas Co. along with the return of DT Charlie Harzbecker and Austin Wiley. Wingate is returning at fullback for the cats. We’re ready in Wildcat Country.
By leechampion
August 21, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
well i just got home from watching Carver and Central in person and 2 observations: 1Jarvis Jones dominates a football game on defense. 2Carver is better than slalom thinks. we shall see when Lagrange and Carver play. Carver’s new QB is damn good and may be better passer than Deron Furr and an adequate runner. Gonna be fun season!
By william
August 21, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
Thomson bulldogs should be in the top 10, they have the best coach in high school football in Luther Welsh and always have a great record 10-1, 9-2 etc.
By Todd Holcomb
August 21, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
Makes perfect sense to me that we should compare LaGrange’s eight seasons in AAA to its previous eight seasons in AAAA. … I just forgot that LaGrange had a good team in 1991. All coincidence.
By slalom1
August 21, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
leechampion, The Carver vs. Central PC game was blacked out in my area. Remember, this is PRE-SEASON. But, I will take your word when it comes to the talent on the 2008 Carver team. They should be good. After all they have a recruiting base of about 12,000 to chose from.
By yo
August 22, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this
Slalom…gotta agree with you on drock08 and his NSHS ranking behind Coffee. My concern for Coffee is their defense was horrible last year. Guess which coach they made head coach this year? Defensive coordinator. If NSHS finishes 4th in 1AAAAA (which I seriously doubt) it will not be behind Coffee. Valdosta, Tift or Warner maybe….but not Coffee.
By GaSouthAlum
August 22, 2008 1:18 AM | Link to this
People want to say that the AP represents the state better? There are only six people voting in it, which is horrendous participation from the state’s media. Even if that is just Savannah, Columbus, Macon, Augusta, Athens and Rome, you still have papers in Dublin, Marietta, Cartersville, Valdosta and a host of other small-town dailies that need to get involved in this. Heck, at least you guys know that Todd takes this seriously. I can remember when the AP poll had 13-15 voters on a regular basis, but not now. And if you think these guys do any better than Todd, then tell me why the No. 7 team in the AP poll in AA got a first-place vote.
By leechampion
August 22, 2008 7:32 AM | Link to this
slalom now you know dell mcgee would not stoop to charles flowers type recruiting even tho he went all the way to texas to get his new quarterback! allright i will be at newnan next friday early so tell me where you will be so we can meet and swap a few predictions
By Don in South Georgia
August 22, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Someone told me that Texans were serious about high school football. I guess they’ve never been to Georgia. We don’t take a backseat to anyone when it comes to enthusiasm, talent, or support. Gotta love high school football in Georgia.
By Northside Fly High 2008
August 22, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
Hey drock08 just because of newnam blowout Northside in 2003 dont mean nothihg and plus it was like 25 degress and wind was blow hard
By Northside Fly High 2008
August 22, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
The AJC Football Rankings can says ever want to said about the Lowndes but on 10-03-08 we can find out Northside vs Lowndes.I hate Lowndes worst Than my worst Rival Warner Robins Demons.
By CougarFan
August 22, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
To Northside Fly High 2008: You right, 2003 doesn’t mean anything. But, the fact that you pointed out that it was 25 degrees doesn’t mean anything either. The cold wasn’t a problem for the cougars, so why was it a problem for NSWR? Don’t make excuses, the cougars were in the same weather as NSWR. NSWR just lost, point blank.
By T. J.
August 22, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Don in South Georgia: The Texas vs, Georgia highschool football debate was a sore one last season but it was because their were nuckleheads writing posts. Then we started talking about other football power houses we all agreed from season to season it depends. This season looks good for Georgia with Lowndes ranked number 2 in the nation by ESPNrise. Can not wait until others start their national polls like USA Today and SI. Usualy N.S. Warner Robinss on that list as well.
By Shock G
August 22, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Todd, where’s Statesboro in your rankings? I’m not even a fan but they’ve been impressive the past few years and always seems to be ready to make a run come November.
By Fan
August 22, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Forget Texas vs. Georgia. The best high school football is played in Ohio, especially southwest Ohio. If you question check at Ohio vs the best in the Herbstreet Classic.
By cool cell
August 22, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
Todd, How did AAA state Champs Carver-Col. look to you last night on CSS? Also tell me your thoughts on Carver’s new QB ?
By Todd Holcomb
August 22, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this
Todd, How did AAA state Champs Carver-Col. look to you last night on CSS? Also tell me your thoughts on Carver’s new QB ?
I didn’t see the scrimmage, but I’m told the new QB passed as well as Furr. That remains to be confirmed, however.
Todd, where’s Statesboro in your rankings? I’m not even a fan but they’ve been impressive the past few years and always seems to be ready to make a run come November.
Statesboro was on the cusp. Not coming off a great season, however.
People want to say that the AP represents the state better? There are only six people voting in it, which is horrendous participation from the state’s media. Even if that is just Savannah, Columbus, Macon, Augusta, Athens and Rome, you still have papers in Dublin, Marietta, Cartersville, Valdosta and a host of other small-town dailies that need to get involved in this. Heck, at least you guys know that Todd takes this seriously. I can remember when the AP poll had 13-15 voters on a regular basis, but not now. And if you think these guys do any better than Todd, then tell me why the No. 7 team in the AP poll in AA got a first-place vote.
Ain’t it the truth! … Actually, I don’t see the AP as a competing poll but one that enhances what I do. It’s nice to compare the two rankings. But having only six voters is a real problem. And I haven’t seen a coaches’ poll yet. I’m hoping there will be one.
By slalom1
August 22, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this
leechampion, LOL! Regarding the rampant recruiting that goes on in Muscogee Co. For whatever it is worth, I was naturaly at the LG vs. West lake scrimmage tonight. Oddly enough, (or maybe not) I sat right behind what appeared to me to be the entire Newnan coaching staff. They were serious business, but also seemed to enjoy themselves. Could not help but over hear some of their conversations. They left Callaway Stadium looking pretty confident about next week’s game. As for Carver-Col, even though i di not attend the game, I did see the highlights. It appeared to me that even though Carver lost the game,againt the Central starters, the Carver defense was dominent, and led 14-0 when Coach McGee put the JV in. Still uncertain as to whether or not Central did the same. But, #1 Carver vs. #1 Central, Carver was by far the best team. Did this new QB actually come from Texas?
By slalom1
August 22, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this
LG vs. West Lake “Wrap-Up” This was a VERY strange night. I left the game early in the 4th quarter with LG up 15-0. Here is part of the “strange part”. Joe Mansour, whom I have touted as the state’s greatest high school kicker on more than one occasion, was simply horrible tonight. Shanked 2 extra points, and missed a “gimmee” field goal. Otherwise LG should have been up 20-0 at half time. Regardless, Coach Pardue benched ALL of the starters for the second half, and basically played the JV. Even though from what I understand, West Lake was supposed to have done the same, in the third quarter, West Lake left their starters in on offense. Did not matter. The second team LG defense completely shut them down. When I left the game,(right behind the entire Newnan coaching staff), LG was playing their freshmen. Again, do not know the final score, but had the starters played the entire game, it would have probably been something like 40-0 LG. On balence, the LG defense graded about A-. I only use the minus because pass coverage was somewhat soft. (Although I do not recall any completions by West lake.) But, could not help but think what Newnan might do against this pass coverage. The LG OL looked soft between the tackles. But Gunsby @ QB as well as all of the receivers and RB’s looked good. Offense-B. As a side note, getting back to the “strange night”, the West Lake football team did not arrive at Callaway stadium until about 10 minutes before the game was to have begun. The cheerleaders made it to the game just before half time.The West Lake head coach could be heard using profanity on more than one occasion. (I sat on the “visitors” side.) Again, do not know the final score, but saw enough. The Newnan coaching staff left the game with an extremely confident look.(They also sat on the “visitors” side.)
By Reeze
August 23, 2008 7:14 AM | Link to this
Anything on the Tucker/Stephenson and Lowndes/TCC scrimmages.
By LHS Viking
August 23, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Tucker beat Stephenson 18-15.Lowndes game is cancelled due to storm.
By HSBallfan
August 23, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Just to clarify… the Tucker varsity handled the Stephenson varsity 18-0. All the Stephenson points were scored during the JV scrimmage against a pretty disorganized group of Tucker subs. Both varsity defenses looked very tough, Tucker intercepted two passes and Jonathan Davis broke a 65 yard TD run. Tucker should have little trouble running over the region, but the offensive line will need to mature before the playoffs.
By HSBallfan
August 23, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Just to clarify… the Tucker varsity handled the Stephenson varsity 18-0. All the Stephenson points were scored during the JV scrimmage against a pretty disorganized group of Tucker subs. Both varsity defenses looked very tough, Tucker intercepted two passes and Jonathan Davis broke a 65 yard TD run. Tucker should have little trouble running over the region, but the offensive line will need to mature before the playoffs.
By slalom1
August 23, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
TODD, has anyone yet taken notice of Troup? They went up against what I felt was a pretty decent Banneker team. Troup’s offense will be very difficult to stop in 2008.
By SouthGARules
August 23, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this
Well, well, well. Guess what folks Brookwood wet the bed again at the Corky Kell Classic. Walton 14 Brookwood 9. An open date before another loss to North Gwinnett, then they get into their weak region schedule & run the table and flame out in the second round again. Wonder if they will be ranked next week?
By rs willoch
August 23, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
You continue to discriminate against Cobb County. Walton is the only final 4 team from last year that you left out of the pre-season rankings. Walton beat Harrison and MLK last year, and returned a lot of good players. Walton whipped Norcross in the pre-season scrimmage just last week. Yet all of those schools are ranked and Walton is not?? Maybe since Walton just beat Brookwood, who is ranked in the top 10 by some other publications, you’ll wake up!!
By rs willoch
August 23, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this
You continue to discriminate against Cobb County. Walton is the only final 4 team from last year that you left out of the pre-season rankings. Walton beat Harrison and MLK last year, and returned a lot of good players. Walton whipped Norcross in the pre-season scrimmage just last week. Yet all of those schools are ranked and Walton is not?? Maybe since Walton just beat Brookwood, who is ranked in the top 10 by some other publications, you’ll wake up!!
By DJ
August 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
ML King will lose at least 5 games this year. They lost 8 players on defense and 8 players on offense.
Also they lost three of their best coaches.
By Quint Hawk
August 24, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Not a big surprise that everyone north of Albany still fails to mention my Camden County Wildcats. Take a look at our schedule…looks like we have to cross state lines looking for a fight and respect. I can’t wait for playoff time. GO CATS!!!
By camden wildcat
August 24, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Did you see Camden schedule this year. Norcross,Columbia Co Fla, Hoover Ala. Last year we defeated one of the best programs in the state of Soth Carolina. WE go deep into the playoffs every year. Losing last year to the eventuall champs in a game that was very close.Year after year we beat the likes of PARKVIEW< WALTONin the corkey kell classic.We petition the to compete in region 1AAAAA, but was denied. Camden county will take on all challengers. Look at our record against North Georgia teams. South Georgia football is the best.GO WILDCATS ITS HATERS OUT THERE> ESPECILLY FROM NORTH GEORGIA
By Etowah Eagle
August 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Todd, I am just curious why Etowah High School is not ranked. I know we lost some good starters from last year. We lost Elliot Williams a South Carolina committee. Could you please explain why Etowah is not ranked. Thanks, also we beat Starrs Mill High School 47-24 in the Georgia Dome. Thanks for any information, on why they are not ranked.
By T.J.
August 24, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
I do not remember anyone from North GA downing Camden. I gave my props and said they were deserving. Heck defended that talk about soft region to show that in the playoffs you faced the best and won. Think all the smack talk is comming from Region 1. I was at Corky Kell and thought it all went down as I had predicted. RB of Norcross looked pathetic against fast Camden defense. Very young Brookwood got lucky they did not get beat worst. Score did not reflect how bad they looked. They will grow up during the season though, watch. Grayson, they are just good on both sides of the ball, not great. Defense looked average, not sure the line made many tackles. Secondary CB were so far off line the other team threw to WR on sides and it was automatic 5 yards. Special teams are killing them the worse. Grayson should have blown that team out of the water. Region 8 will be real interesting. Scrimmage from Parkview makes me wonder if they are a dark horse this year to win it in that region. I am sure Grayson and Brookwood will pull it together but after last night, makes me wonder. So who are in the Top 10 now Todd? Norcross out and Walton in would be my vote.
By dillenger1914
August 24, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
What about Upson-Lee? We will suuprise a lot of people this year.
By camdencat08
August 24, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this
I just got back from Atlanta watching my WILDCATS from CAMDEN defeat Norcross.Once again we went to the Dome and beat a very good team.I just hope Coach Herron will be prepared for the state playoffs this year.From a majority of long time fans.THROW THE BALL,THROW THE BALL!!!!!!!
By Kyle Hopkins
August 24, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this
Norcross is obviously overrrated. Camden County already beat the #7 team in the state.
By Graysonfan
August 25, 2008 7:29 AM | Link to this
hey now, grayson will tell you they didnt play their best, check out, ourvarsity.com, terry williams interview. there is another grayson fan on the site (not me). lots of work needed on the lines both ways! there were a few players that played both ways, whats up with that? sorry brookwood has some things to work on too. ive always said camden, valdosta, etc down south had some great teams. not really sure why any one down there has to have an attitude towards the north ga team bloggers? maybe a little lonely? check out the sunday AJC and Gwinnett Daily, two very large articles with pictures done on Norcross/camden and brookwood.walton. whats sad was the only Gwinnett team that won, got a small little right hand corner (maybe 4x5 ) article and they were the only gwinnett winners. so dont feel lonley or left out, we are with you.
By PMC
August 25, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
Camden fan?
Throw the Ball? Why?
Yeah Deangelo Smith is good but they had no reason to throw. Norcross couldn’t stop the wing t? Why do something uncomfortable when you’re easily chewing up clock and your defense is flying all over the field? Robert Williams is Awesome.
By T.J.
August 25, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this
Graysonfan, I take back what I said about average lines. I watched game again on corkykell.com………they found a few linemen. That #’s 94 and 73 on the D line are huge and fast. Looks like Grayson recruited from the basketball team with 73. He made like crazy tackles via long arms. He looked to be the most productive with a sack, forced fumble, and some tackles. Number 94 is a freak too. Looks almost 300 and moves like a player half that size. I did not put down the O-Line too much, they scored 31 points. So this post is to say I stand corrected. Grayson should have a good year. Brookwood, they will improve. I noticed something though…the short butterball guard has the same last name as the head coach. Hmmm……..not getting playing time at the teams expense I hope.
By brittany
October 19, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
up there yall need to do some changes eci best evans in their scrimage
By brittany
October 19, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
up there yall need to do some changes eci best evans in their scrimage
By brittany
October 19, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
up there yall need to do some changes eci best evans in their scrimage