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Who’s headed to Georgia Coaches’ Hall of Fame?

The Georgia Athletic Coaches Association inducted Bobby Gruhn of Gainesville, Oliver Hunnicutt of LaGrange and Jerry Sharp of East Rome and Darlington into its Hall of Fame earlier this month in Dalton.

That got me to thinking about which coaches, active and retired, will be inducted in the future.

I’ve broken it down into four lists below. Tell me what you think.

But first, let’s discuss the Class of 2008. Gruhn, Sharp and Hunnicutt are fine choices, but they make me wonder why they’ve made it and others have not.

For example, Gruhn was 256-102-5 in 30 seasons at Gainesville with no state titles. Compare that to Cedartown’s John Hill (254-89-5, no state titles) and Vidalia’s Buck Cravey (269-126-4, one state title).

Hill and Cravey are not in.

Should a state title be required? Newly retired Jim Dorsey of McEachern (237-78-1) likely will make it, but what about Danny Cronic of East Coweta (219-107-1)?

Or is it better to win four state titles in seven seasons, then retire, as Bill Corry (78-6) did in 1962 at Morgan County? The GACA requires a minimum 20 years of coaching.

Now let’s look at Sharp. He was 229-101-9 and won three state titles at two schools, an amazing record. Those East Rome teams of the 1970s were legendary.

But why isn’t Jim Hughes of Thomasville/Colquitt County in the Hall of Fame? Hughes (247-102-5) has more victories and a better winning percentage than Sharp and matched Sharp’s feat of winning three titles with two schools - except that Hughes’ three were in the highest classification.

And lastly, there’s Hunnicutt, who led LaGrange to titles in 1955 and 1958 and was 187-96-19 in an era when you could win state in just 12 games.

When you adjust for that, Hunnicutt’s career was comparable to Dale Williams at Waycross (230-122-3) and Alton Shell at Americus (208-107-2).

All three won about two-thirds of their games and a pair of state titles, but Hunnicutt is in the Hall of Fame and Shell and Williams are not.

OK, to the lists …

The 10 best candidates for the Hall of Fame (active): These are locks to make it.

  1. Larry Campbell, Lincoln County

  2. Robert Davis, Westside-Macon

  3. Luther Welsh, Thomson

  4. Alan Chadwick, Marist

  5. Conrad Nix, Northside-Warner Robins

  6. Ed Pilcher, Bainbridge

  7. Dwight Hochstetler, Bowdon

  8. Charlie Winslette, Gatewood School

  9. Buck Godfrey, Southwest DeKalb

  10. Rick Tomberlin, Valdosta

The 10 best non-locks for the Hall of Fame (active): You must coach at least 20 years in Georgia to be eligible. The first three are locks. The rest are working on their longevity.

  1. Rich McWhorter, Charlton County

  2. Cecil Flowe, Parkview

  3. Jeff Herron, Camden County

  4. Steve Pardue, LaGrange

  5. Randy McPherson, Lowndes

  6. Rayvan Teague, Carrollton

  7. Erik Soliday, Turner County

  8. Charlie Flowers, Dougherty

  9. Robby Pruitt, Fitzgerald

  10. Roger Holmes, Dublin

The 10 best candidates for the Hall of Fame (retired): The top two are locks; the bottom eight have credentials as good as some who already are in and probably will make it someday.

  1. T. McFerrin, South Gwinnett

  2. Dexter Wood, Buford

  3. Buck Cravey, Vidalia

  4. Jim Hughes, Colquitt County

  5. Jim Dorsey, McEachern

  6. Jack Johnson, Mitchell-Baker

  7. Dale Williams, Waycross

  8. John Hill, Cedartown

  9. Jim Cavan, R.E. Lee

  10. Jim Lofton, GAC

Five coaches from the GIA who should be in the Hall of Fame: Only two GIA coaches (DuPree of Laney and Arthur Mott of Tifton’s Wilson High) are in the Hall. But the two greatest black coaches of the GIA era — L.C. Baker of Washington and Odis Spencer of Spencer — are not.

  1. L.C. Baker, Washington

  2. Odis Spencer, Spencer

  3. Clarence Fisher, Center/Carver-Atlanta

  4. Stan Lomax, Risley

  5. T. Herman Graves, Howard

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By maniac is accurate

June 16, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Williams and Shell need to get in, and Williams coached my arch rival. Shell had an undefeated team that averaged about 40 ppg. and gave up less than that total all year. All but two of its wins were shutouts. That team alone should get him in, but he did a lot more than that.

By Chris

June 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Dave Hunter???

By Jim

June 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

How about Coach T Mcfarrin Tucker/South Gwinnett and

Pig Davis from Columbus High

By Todd Holcomb

June 16, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Dave Hunter???

I was looking at guys with 200 wins when making my list. Should’ve thought of Hunter. He makes for a pretty good debate.

Compare:

Hunter — 176-52, 1 state title (1996 Brookwood)

Charlie Brake — 185-84-5, two state titles (‘55 Morgan County, ‘70 Westminster)

Calvin Ramsey — 167-33-8, two state titles (‘58 & ‘63 Avondale)

Tommy Perdue — 169-57-1, one state title (‘88 R.E. Lee)

Ben Scott — 158-40, one state title (‘98 Carrollton)

Brake was inducted last year. The others are not in the Hall of Fame.

I’d probably have to put all five in there.

By blufish

June 16, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Al Reaves? 216 wins… not too shabby, especially with the lack of talent he had to work with many of those years.

By Todd Holcomb

June 16, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

**How about Coach T Mcfarrin Tucker/South Gwinnett and

Pig Davis from Columbus High**

McFerrin is a 300-game winner, so he’s in. Pig Davis … They don’t name them like they used to!

I think you should win 200 games or at least one state title to be considered, even though you didn’t have all these playoff rounds to pad your record in Pig’s day. He was runner-up at Columbus and Tifton. Definitely a good record.

By lee champion

June 16, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Pig Davis was a fabulous coach that got cheated and i mean cheated out of the state championship in 1967 when a blind cheatin ref lets a Marietta player run up in the stands to catch a pass and doesn’t rule him out of bounds. Pig was much loved by his players and even just ordinary students that he taught PE. Great man, humble to a fault and truly deserves to be in the hall. I was surprized to learn he isn’t there already. I will look up his record and get back on this one. Go Blue Devils, THE Class of ‘68!

By Bill

June 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Cecile Flowe of parkview.

By Todd Holcomb

June 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Pig Davis was a fabulous coach that got cheated and i mean cheated out of the state championship in 1967

As a matter of trivia, the director of the GACA, which runs the Hall of Fame, is Ray Broadaway. He was an assistant coach for Marietta in that 1967 title game.

I’ve read and heard about that game quite a bit. Grant Field. Steady rain. Eddie Woody’s punt return. I don’t know if I’ve heard about the pass.

By GaSouthAlum

June 16, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Todd,

Do you think that GHSA coaches who “retire” and go to work at private schools (like Buck Cravey did going from Vidalia to Pinewood Christian) hurt themselves in the eyes of the GACA, or is that a factor. Also what about coaches at private schools that then go into the GHSA, should or are they even considered?

By GaSouthAlum

June 16, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Todd,

Do you think that GHSA coaches who “retire” and go to work at private schools (like Buck Cravey did going from Vidalia to Pinewood Christian) hurt themselves in the eyes of the GACA, or is that a factor. Also what about coaches at private schools that then go into the GHSA, should or are they even considered?

By Todd Holcomb

June 16, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Yes, I do think that wins in GISA are discounted a bit. In fact, Buck Cravey is listed as having only 200 wins and retiring in 1992, according to the Georgia High School Football Magazine, which has been keeping up the coaching records in recent years.

Johnny Walton’s Football Friday Nights website has Cravey’s numbers correct:

http://www.traditionweb.com/ffn/FFN2recordsGaCoachWins.php

By Chris

June 16, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Yeah I couldn’t find Diamond Dave’s numbers anywhere, thought he would’ve had more than 176 wins. Where do you find these win/los stats?

By BubbaDawg

June 16, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

What about Larry Campbell from Lincoln county?

By Steve

June 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

T. McFerrin should be a lock, and just for what he did at Elbert County. His Blue Devil teams of the mid 90s pounded the crap out of nearly evrything they faced, and the Granite Bowl in Elberton was the site of many a beatdown of visiting teams.

By Drago

June 16, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

First, any coach that puts up with all the stuff they put up with for 20 years deserves to be in a hall of fame. I gotta stand up for Max Bass. He has over 200 wins and most of those wins came in a very tough region—Griffin, LaGrange, RE Lee and the Clayton County schools that still played tough and with a lot of tradition (at that time). Was president of a lot of coaches associations. Never won the big one, but got a lot of his assistants head coaching jobs. He always spoke highly of Buck Cravey.

By Jim

June 16, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

Lee,

I played for Coach Alvin ” Pig ” Davis……a true gentleman.

               Jim Rogers
               CHS 1976

He should be in the HOF

By TCC Fan

June 16, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Ed Pilcher is a great coach and person. I am sure he will do great things at Bainbridge, just like he did here at TCC.

By Todd Holcomb

June 16, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

What about Larry Campbell from Lincoln county?

Mr. Campbell should be in every Hall of Fame for which he is eligible.

Yeah I couldn’t find Diamond Dave’s numbers anywhere, thought he would’ve had more than 176 wins. Where do you find these win/los stats?

Hunter coached only 19 seasons.

Hunter’s season-by-season totals:

http://ghsfha.org/coaches.php?gName=Hunter,%20Dave

By lee champion

June 16, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Pig Davis taught Gene Brodie and Richard Finley everything they knew and both were legendary after leaving good ole CHS. Also had 3 all state players in 67 two went to Auburn and one to Ole Miss where he played with Archie Manning. Pig Davis personified dignity, honesty and class and taught his players to do the right thing. Put him in the hall.

By Todd Holcomb

June 16, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Ed Pilcher is a great coach and person. I am sure he will do great things at Bainbridge, just like he did here at TCC.

It still reads funny:

”Ed Pilcher, Bainbridge”

Guess we’ll get used to it. Not sure if a more successful coach has ever changed jobs so late in a career. Maybe Creel going to Westminster ranks up there.

By slalom1

June 16, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Coach Alvin “Pig” Davis was one of my all time favorites. Also, following the state title loss in 1967, his famous quote was, “It wasn’t so much about who had the best team, it was mostly about who could “out-slop” the other.” (This coming from a man with the nickname “Pig”.) LOL. That 1967 Columbus team was very good, and worthy of a state title. Coach Hunnicut: Many of those wins and losses came against Valdosta, Moultrie, Albany, Lanier, Willingham, R.E.Lee, Columbus, Jordon, and Baker.(Old Region 1AAA). Toughest region in the state, just as 1AAAAA is today.

By terry evans

June 16, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Bruce Cobleigh from Harrison High School deserves consideration but I do not think has has the 20 years.

By slalom1

June 16, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

As for Gene Brodie, he would have made a great dog catcher, as long as he could write up his reports without too many spelling errors.

By NSHS ATHLETIC FAN

June 16, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Tood, Please don’t overlook Joe Greene, Beach High of Savannah. He was a great coach that brought many championships and victories under the old GIA system.

By jray

June 16, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

I think Ben Scott definitely would have been in there if he had not passed away. He would have hit 200 wins easily within the next four years.

By Michael

June 16, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this

How about Russ Fuller from fayette County high School? yeah he was a soccer coach and back when he started all a soccer team did was mess up the football field, but he won close to 200 games. you win 200 games in any sport and you deserve something.

By seminole

June 16, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

What are your qualifications for hall of fame? There is one coach that should be there, not because of winning state titles, not because of wins (over 200), not because of longevity (over 30) but because of impact. Whether it be to the community or the player Coach Robert (bob) Herndon currently at Benedictine in Savannah should be a consideration.

By seminole

June 16, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

What are your qualifications for hall of fame? There is one coach that should be there, not because of winning state titles, not because of wins (over 200), not because of longevity (over 30) but because of impact. Whether it be to the community or the player Coach Robert (bob) Herndon currently at Benedictine in Savannah should be a consideration.

By seminole

June 16, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

What are your qualifications for hall of fame? There is one coach that should be there, not because of winning state titles, not because of wins (over 200), not because of longevity (over 30) but because of impact. Whether it be to the community or the player Coach Robert (bob) Herndon currently at Benedictine in Savannah should be a consideration.

By Bystander

June 16, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Just curious: If someone flagrantly violated GHSA recruiting rules for years in the name of winning, would that lessen that coach’s credibility?

By Casual fan

June 16, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Just curious: If someone flagrantly violated GHSA recruiting rules for years in the name of winning, would that lessen that coach’s credibility?

By Patriot

June 16, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

What about Rodney Walker at Mary Persons? 271 wins, 1 state championship

By Dacula

June 16, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

I believe with a few more good years that Kevin Maloof has a real good shot. I believe he has 165 career wins and is around 51 years old. As for Dave Hunter, he probably did more for gwinnett county football than any other coach in county history (first to beat Clarke Central, Valdosta, and first to win a state title). Probably the greatest coach in county history. Both of these guys are class acts and gwinnett should be proud of the way they have represented their schools over the years. What do you think about Kevin Maloof’s possibilities, Todd? He just needs 3 more wins to tie his dad, George.

By Obserever

June 16, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

Todd: I believe coach Pilcher was wanting a challenge by going to Bainbridge. I would imagine he is wanting to be the coach thats turns Bainbridge into a elite program in the years to come. With the talent that Bainbridge has I beleive he will have no problem in doing that.

By Lapdog

June 17, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

Dave Hunter, certainly. His first year at Brookwood, they went 10-2, losing only to Newton County in the regular season and again in the region finals in overtime. The year before, they were 1-9. His second year, they were beaten at Warner Robins in the state championship game. He was a great coach. As for Coach Maloof at Dacula, time will tell. I know he is a fine man.

By Tony Smith

June 17, 2008 6:51 AM | Link to this

Alton Shell belongs in the Hall of Fame. His 1973 team came within six minutes of winning a state title when no one thought that they would even win region. His 1974 team won a state title. The 1975 team was one of the greatest teams in state history, giving up only 8 points all season with 13 shutouts and ending up ranked 2nd in the nation.

By lee champion

June 17, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Slalom 1 makes a real good point. If you won in 1AAA in the 60s you HAD to be real good cause the competition was top of the line in every sport from football all the way to golf and tennis. Dem boys on the 67 Marietta team know that boy was out of bounds but ain’t a whole lot we can do about it 40 years later but whine.

By WAYNE

June 17, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

COACH KENNETH ROSS OF MURRAT COUNTY SHOULD BE SELECTED . HE MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND HAS THREE STATE TITLES IN BASKETBALL. HIS NAME IS IN THE HAT BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY KEEP IGNORING HIS STATS . I GUESS YOU HAVE TO BE FROM THE METRO AREA TO BE SELECTED.

By WAYNE

June 17, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

EXCUSE MY ERROR THAT SHOULD BE KENNETH ROSS OF MURRAY COUNTY !!

By Russ

June 17, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Steve Savage of Commerce has won a State Championship and deserves to be in the active top 10 list. He has been a Head Coach for 19 years at one place.

By Bull-Spit

June 17, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Observer…..Learn to spell your ID before you come on here and make all of Bainbridge and Decatur Co. look bad. You don’t “observe” very well if you didn’t notice that your ID was mis-spelled.

Now……I am sure Ed Pilcher will do well at Bainbridge. The man has won at every coaching stop he has ever had. However, the knock on Bainbridge has always been that they had good talent, but bad coaching, since the early 80s. That trend was supposed to have reversed itself with the hiring of Coach Rickey Woods, who led Panola (MS) to several state titles. He had a very respectable season in 07, (9-4 with a 3rd round play-off loss to Tucker High) but left BHS as soon as he could get the he11 out of Dodge for some odd reason. Bob Christmas couldn’t coach us up for sh1t, either, but turned E Hall into a Dome team. It just doesn’t make sense. Oh, well, Coach Pilcher deserves his accolades, even if he turns out to be the second coming of Bob Christmas….In short, I’ll believe we can be a power when I SEE us as a power, and not until. Nobody has ever been able to do anything over here since Coach Jones left town……and then he went right over to Cairo and got them a title in 1990. Again, with all the talent we have, it just doesn’t make sense. Good luck Ed….you’re gonna need it over here.

By lee champion

June 17, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Scuse me but I must admit it WAS a punt return, not a pass, that Marietta won the 1967 title game on. The player was clearly out of bounds as reported by no less an authority than Coach Vince Dooley. So Todd thanks for correcting my aged memory.Go Blue Devils!

By Todd Holcomb

June 17, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Rodney Walker - I completely overlooked Walker, who has about 270 wins. He will make it.

Bob Herndon - Without state titles, Herndon needs to get closer to 250. It was reported that he passed 200 in 2007, although the GHSFHA has him with 199. Herndon has been in the playoffs with five different schools. You have to like that. But I suspect he’s got more work to do.

Joe Greene - I don’t know much about Greene at Beach. Let me know more. What years did he coach? Beach never won a state title, which would make it hard for any GIA coach to make it, IMO.

Steve Savage - He’s 164-68 with a state title, but I think he needs to hit 200 because he didn’t re-invent the wheel at Commerce, just kept it rolling. But he’s a definite Hall of Fame contender.

Ken Ross - Coach Ross was inducted this year, actually. I was just listing football coaches. Congrats to Coach Ross. And you definitely do NOT have to be from metro Atlanta to be inducted.

Gene Brodie - Brodie (160-77-1) won state titles at two schools in the highest classification. I’d call Brodie borderline due to the low win total, but I could endorse him. There are lots of guys in the mid-100s in wins with one state title that are a little below Brodie: Hale Burnett, Lynn Hunnicutt, George Maloof, Phil Jones among them.

Bruce Cobleigh - Only 125 wins. I don’t think you can go that low for a guy who didn’t win a state title. That’s as much as I like Bruce, who made a state power out of a new school in Cobb County.

Just curious: If someone flagrantly violated GHSA recruiting rules for years in the name of winning, would that lessen that coach’s credibility?

Yes. However, if no one ever proved it, then it probably wasn’t flagrant. I don’t think the GACA will keep somebody out of the Hall of Fame on the basis of hearsay (unless one of his rivals is on the selection committee!).

Kevin Maloof - Kevin (156-91) needs at least 200 wins, and he’d probably need a state title on top of that. Right now, he’s more like a Tally Johnson or a Cecil Morris, which is good company, but not Hall of Fame-calibre yet.

Bob Christmas - Hasn’t been in Georgia long enough.

By John

June 17, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Coach Buck Cravey was one of the best line coaches in the history of this state. He’d run quick-trap over and over again, and beat you with it almost every single time. A charismatic personality who loved his players, Cravey definitely deserves a spot in Georgia’s Hall of Fame.

By John

June 17, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

Coach Buck Cravey was one of the best line coaches in the history of this state. He’d run quick-trap over and over again, and beat you with it almost every single time. A charismatic personality who loved his players, Cravey definitely deserves a spot in Georgia’s Hall of Fame.

By John

June 17, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Coach Buck Cravey was one of the best line coaches in the history of this state. He’d run quick-trap over and over again, and beat you with it almost every single time. A charismatic personality who loved his players, Cravey definitely deserves a spot in Georgia’s Hall of Fame.

By Derrick Mahone

June 17, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Todd If I’m not mistaken, I think Joe Greene was the basketball coach at Beach before Russell Ellington. He might have coached Ellington.

By Nick

June 17, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

What about Mike Hodges. He won 3 state titles at West Rome and Thomasville all three were 15-0 seasons. He would have had a lot more wins if not for his years at Georgia Southern.

By STSM

June 17, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

What about Frank Barden at Cartersville? He had a rough year this year but has produced quite well in the past, with one state championship and multiple semifinal apperances. He should at least be considered

By Todd Holcomb

June 17, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

*What about Frank Barden at Cartersville? *

If Barden (109-54-1) can put in another 14 seasons as good as his first 14, he’s in.

What about Mike Hodges. He won 3 state titles at West Rome and Thomasville all three were 15-0 seasons.

Hodges (149-35-1) had only 15 seasons as a head coach. I don’t have a problem with that, but it’s a GACA rule. I think it’s 25 years as a coach, 20 in Georgia. Doesn’t have to be as a head coach, though.

But Hodges is one of Georgia’s best coaches ever. I like guy who win at more than one place.

By Observer

June 17, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Bull-spit: My bad. Make sure you get on to Todd also. He left off an s on the word guy.

By slalom1

June 17, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

How about some of Georgia’s most shameful coaches? i.e. Coley Cassidy. Remember the head-set between his QB son and himself? Had to forfeit a play-off win for the infraction. What about Cecil Flowe? Showing up stoned for the high school prom? And, then there is Gene Brodie. Hate to draw the race card, but there came a point where non-whites simply could not tolerate Brodie. I have always been of the belief that EVERY kid is coachable. Great coaches find a way. Lesser coaches label a player “un-coachable”. Former Nebraska Head Coach Tom Osborne had it figured out. “Give a kid a job, and demand excellence.” This philosphy worked pretty well for Coach osborne.

By slalom1

June 17, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

TODD, I believe you meant “Oliver Hunnicut”, not Lynn Hunnicut.

By slalom1

June 17, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Getting back to Gene Brodie. He put some GREAT teams on the field. To his credit, he, along with Jim Hughes, were the only 2 coaches in Region 1 that ever posed a threat to the late great Nick Hyder. My issue with Coach Brodie is the way he faded away. Divided the racial community in Tifton. This was no good for GHS football. Since we are talking about future “Hall of Famers”, my vote would NEVER be cast for Gene Brodie.

By Paul Standard hands down

June 17, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Won a State title coaching at Dacula and more importantly reviving a program in St. Pius X. Look out in AAA this year, GO LIONS

By Todd Holcomb

June 17, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Won a State title coaching at Dacula and more importantly reviving a program in St. Pius X.

Dacula has never won a state title, nor played in a state championship game. Standard has been fantastic for St. Pius, but he’s been a head coach for only seven years. It’s a little premature to think Hall of Fame.

TODD, I believe you meant “Oliver Hunnicut”, not Lynn Hunnicut.

No, I meant Lynn, the Pepperell guy, won a state title in 1990. He’s one of several guys between 150-200 wins and one state title that are probably never going to make the Hall of Fame.

Lloyd Bohannon (1978 Griffin) is another. And Dewey Alverson (1972 SWD). Hale Burnette (1968 Warren County). Tommy Perdue (1988 RE Lee). Bud Theodician (1987 Morrow). Probably eight to 10 like that.

By NSHS ATHLETIC FAN

June 17, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Derrick and Todd, In my rush to credit Joe Greene for his many years of coaching Beach High, I failed to say that he was head coach of the football and basketball teams. That was the way it was in GIA in the day. Coach Greene started in 1935 through around 1965 (excluding the war years) in football. He gave up basketball a few years earlier wherein Coach Russel Ellington went on to win 5-state basketball championships at Beach including the first integrated state champioship. Back to football! Many of Coach Greene victories will be hard to find but I will make an attempt through Beach High athletic association.

By golden herd

June 17, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

the fact that Jim Hughes is not in this Hall of Fame by now is baffling. 3 State Titles (2 at Thomasville, 1 at Colquitt County). Thomasville also claims to be National Champions one of those years.

Like Todd said, some of the coaches that are in now dont have any hardware to show for all those years.

As far as the Ed Pilcher situation…Rumor was that TCC didnt cough up the same kinda money that Bainbridge was offering him. Plus, TCC refused to upgrade the facilities (stadium, weight room, etc). money talks…

By dooder

June 18, 2008 12:49 AM | Link to this

how about Ronnie Gleggo?

110-70 in 19 seasons

By Gamer

June 18, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Personally I think Asst. Coaches should be considered as well. The greatest coaches in Georgia history could not have gotten where they are without the dedication and skill of their staffs. I gaurantee if you could ask the great coaches like Corky Kell, Charlie Brake, even Alan Chadwick they would tell you that their staff is 90% of the reason for their success. Just a thought.

By TCC Jacket Fan

June 18, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Golden herd you are right about the coach Pilcher situation. It is sad after all he has done for the jackets, the new superintendent did not want to upgrade our facilities. She did not think it was needed. Our facilities need it bad. You would never imagine with the type of program coach Pilcher started for us our facilities would be as bad as they are.

By MilMan

June 18, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

I know were talking about guys who have coached a while but the kid in Griffin better be watched, I call him a kid because I think he’s 35-36 and has 64 wins in 6 seasons which averages out to 10 wins a season. I would say not to bad and if he coaches until he is 55 which is another 20 years at 10 wins a season he would finish with 260+ wins, not to bad for a youngster. Don’t really like Griffin had some run in’s with there fans but wonder why a big time program hasn’t tried to steal him away from there.

By TCC Fan

June 18, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Golden Herd…..There was a lot more going on at TCC to facilitate Pilcher’s departure than a failure to upgrade the athletic department or a pay raise. Coach P. also lost his main support system among the TCC administration when they began to retire from the school system. The Principal at TCC was his last line of support, and he retired at the end of the 07-08 school year. The school Super. retired prior to that, and he was also one of Coach’s biggest supporters. The new Super. doesn’t appear to be as “pro-athletic dept.” as the others were. Coach P. is no fool. He could see the handwriting on the wall.

The incident last year when he “put the hands” on a student didn’t help him any, either.

However, it appears that his departure was more of a power struggle between him and the admn. more than anything else.

We will see how it all shakes out in the grand scheme of things regarding TCC and their tradition as a football power since 1991, but it still shouldn’t diminish his record as a coach or his induction into the Ga Coaching Hall of Fame. Coach P. won more games during his tenure at TCC than all of the other TCC coaches COMBINED…..and he also won 5 AAA titles, which was something TCC could only get a sniff of prior to his arrival…..even when Charlie Ward was here.

By JH

June 18, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

How about Donald Tison of Clinch County? Also, shouldn’t some assistant coaches be considered for Hall of Fame? Example: Jack Rudolph of Valdosta (arguably one of the best defensive coaches ever) or any of the Valdosta assistant coaches of the Bazemore and Hyder eras.

By JH

June 18, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Other Valdosta HS assistant coaches to consider: Joe Wilson (won state as Lowndes Co coach, Julian LeFiles, Coach Jones (won state as head coach at Pinevale before intergration), Freddie Waters.

By Gamer

June 19, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Glad to see someone actually liked my suggestion of Asst. Coaches. I don’t see how the state Hall Of Fame could only recognize Head Coaches. There are a lot of Asst. Coaches out there that put in more work in developing these kids than the head coach. I mean my father was an Asst. Coach for 35 years, had the opportunity to be a head coach, but he felt he was better suited to help the teams as an Assoc. Head Coach. I just want the great Asst. Coaches out there to get the recognition they deserve for truly making Georgia kids into outstanding football players.

By slalom1

June 19, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Never thought about assistant coaches being named to the GHS football hall of fame, but since the subject has come up, I would nominate David Traylor of LaGrange. He has been on the staff since the early 1980’s and OC most of that time. Including the 1991 state and national championship team, as well as the 3 state titles in 2001, 2003, and 2004. Coach Traylor is not only an OC who comes with credentials on the field, but a genuinely “good guy” who is respected by his players, the fans, and his fellow coaching staff. Come to think of it, this idea of an “Assistant Coaches’ Hall of Fame” is a pretty darn good idea.

By Tbans

June 19, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

Phil Lindsey - Lakeside-Dekalb and Tucker High School.

His record has not been properly listed. Over 200 wins a state championship and a state runner-up, NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON

By Todd Holcomb

June 19, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

**Phil Lindsey - Lakeside-Dekalb and Tucker High School.

His record has not been properly listed. Over 200 wins a state championship and a state runner-up, NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON**

Lindsey has only about 160 wins in Georgia. Did he coach in another state? He’s got an excellent record but not a lot of years as a Georgia head coach.

By Raider

June 20, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Ed Dudley! What about him?

By Dan Moore

June 21, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Coach Lindsey was 160-53-2.

He was my coach and as great as he was as a coach he was better as a person. I think it stinks that the HOF caps the requirement @ 20 years. Not to take anything from the other coaches, but I think more should be made of your winning percentage than how long you have coached. Coach Lindsey was able to win at Lakeside which never had a feeder system like a lot of schools do. Also, I think the HOF needs to consider Asst. coaches. Dave Redford at Lakeside was phenomenal and even Coach Creel and Coach Lindsey would say that the guy made them look good on more than one occassion.

By kell ford

June 21, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

Mike Garvin Mt de Sales should be included on retired list

By Todd Holcomb

June 22, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

I think the 20-year requirement includes years as an assistant, so perhaps Lindsey would be eligible. He certainly has a very good record.

Re: Dudley … Good coach, but he’d need to win 200 games or at least one state title.

Re: Garvin … He’s 160-80-5 with three state titles. Once you go into GISA, I think it gets harder. I doubt Garvin will make it.

By GW

June 22, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Howard Ellis of Lincoln Co. is another top assistant that deserves recognition.

By Alphonso "Buckwheat" Collins

June 22, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

What about Luther Welsh is he a first time ballot. I think so, i’m not saying this because i played for him in high school. I also went on to play division 1A football at East Carolina University in Greenville,NC. He is one the best coaches i ever had. Love him like a father.

By Lew

June 23, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

The “BIG O”, Odis Spencer should be in the Hall of Fame. In my four years alone we went to the state playoffs three time and the state championship game twice. We lost to South Fulton of Atlanta my freshman year, David T. Howard my sophomore year and Laney of Augusta my senior year. We finally won it all AGAIN the year following my graduation defeatin Risley of Brunswick. He has had a few players to play or get tryouts in the pro ranks. Otis Sistrunk of the Oakland Raiders, Ernie Green of the Packers and Browns, Charlie Johnson and Clarence Spencer of the 49’ers, Cleo Walker of the Eagles and Packers and Coach Wallace Davis formerly of Carver-Columbus was a Falcon for a short time. Put Coach Spencer, Pig Davis and Dale Williams(who was at one time was the coach at Baker in Columbus.

By mds man

June 23, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

didn’t garvin win all his state titles in GHSA? why bash that he went into gisa with the school

By BigPerm

June 24, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

How about Ed Cochran?

By watch-it-all

June 29, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

how about Sid Maxwell of Sequayah High. he, for making his football player have the grades to play first!!!!!!!! then taking who left and doing a wonderful job training them

By tommy tillman

July 7, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Who votes on this? Will it be all Atlanta area sports writers?

By Bernard Baker

July 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Hey coach. I’m interesting going to college in Georgia Southern playing basketball. I’m only in the 10th grade but I know were i’m going.Coach I will keep in contact with the deparment of Georgia Southern cause it a great school for me and thats were I wanting to play basketball. Thanks

By Bernard Baker

July 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Hey coach. I’m interesting going to college in Georgia Southern playing basketball. I’m only in the 10th grade but I know were i’m going.Coach I will keep in contact with the deparment of Georgia Southern cause it a great school for me and thats were I wanting to play basketball. Thanks

By JH

July 11, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Has anyone ever considered that all of the coaches of the year have to be members of the GACA? Should a coach be left out because he/she has chosen not to join the GACA, which is influenced greatly by all of the “great” private school coaches, who in the interest of fairness, DO NOT RECRUIT from the public schools

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