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Surprised at semis? I’m not.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Poll Talk Predix: Todd predicts the team-by-team semifinals winners and losers in every class. He also offers Todd’s Odds on who’ll take home a title.
We shouldn’t be surprised.
Most people would say this has been a year of upsets, but on closer inspection there have been only a half-dozen real shockers this playoff season.
The only big surprise in the semifinals is Chamblee. This is a team that lost its best player, the all-time DeKalb County rushing king, Roddy Jones, from a team that missed the playoffs last season. Nobody saw that coming, but for the rest?
Cook is a fourth seed, but the Hornets were ranked No. 7 after their opening-night victory over Colquitt County and got as high as No. 6 for four weeks. All three of their losses are to ranked teams.
Anyone paying attention knew Cook was a dangerous team and that defending champs Charlton County, Lincoln County and Roswell were up against it last week.
The other 18 teams (besides Chamblee and Cook) were ranked in preseason or after the regular season. Some were known to be very talented in preseason but perhaps hadn’t lived up to potential until now (Athens Academy, Lovett, Ware County, Camden County), and others were unranked early but very much on the radar (North Gwinnett, Walton, Cairo).
In fact, the only semifinal team that hasn’t been in the top six at some point is Camden County (peaked at No. 7 after beating Warner Robins), and everybody knows Camden is no Cinderella.
Poll Talk Predix: Todd predicts the team-by-team semifinals winners and losers in every class. He also offers Todd’s Odds on who’ll take home a title.
Todd talks back: Holcomb mixes it up with you all week long. Catch his running commentary in Poll Talk Monday-Friday. Leave comments, questions, etc., here and return to talk about the latest playoff predix.
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By chrsharvick29
December 3, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
I have to agree with most of the picks this week. I’m hoping Cook and Clinch can pull their’s out though. Sure are allot of teams from the southern part of the state.
Go Lowndes!!!
By D.S.G.B.
December 3, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Cairo will win in the Dome, just need to know where the State Championship will be played????
By yo
December 3, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this
Have to give it to Charlton Co. last week. Even though they lost, they made Buford look less than unbeatable in AA. To lose to the great Buford by only 1 touchdown without their star running back says a lot for Charlton and makes it appear that Buford can be beat.
By Vike in Atl
December 3, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this
You folks at the AJC always want to ignore Lowndes until they come up here and kick your *ss and it’s unavoidable to recognize them as being in Georgia. Give Valdosta another year and you could see a state AAAAA championship game between the two cross-town rivals. Camden is the only serious hurdle now between Lowndes and the 2007 title.
By Boys in Blue
December 3, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
Camden is really just happy to be there. That should be the game to watch on Saturday. Lowndes has some incredible players.
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Man Camden has had the toughest draw outta any team!! Now we have to play Lowndes??!!
By Great 2 B A Chamblee Bulldog
December 3, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
The only part of the equation that was forgotten about when no one had any faith after we lost Roddy, was the fact that we got Showfety as a coach. Chamblee has a new coaching staff,which was not even completed until after spring practice. Coach Showfety did not take over the program until April and in addition to serving as Head Coach, he is the offensive coordinator and coaches the offensive line. Chamblee is definitely the story of the year, and it’s great to see the recognition finally coming their way. The coaches and players have done a terrific job and have conductted themselves beautifully!
By Chris
December 3, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this
Where are you South Georgia football doubters??? Once again South Georgia football comes up strong with several teams in the semi’s. I don’t hear too much smack right now!
By roswell student
December 3, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
last friday was disappointing! we were just barely hanging on the whole game we just coudnt figure out how to stop greg reid. A little bit of edvice for camden lowndes is the type of team that is all talent. If camden wants to beat lowndes they better figure out the deffensive trap. basically how to stop lowndes from running the ball so much and running down the clock.they passed twice that whole game amd both incomplete. I asked some lowndes county fans about there team and they were so confident that they would win. They also said that they didnt even know any of there recievers because they never throw the ball . They just run the ball and its so unpredictable were there going to go because they use two running backs!! they each run the opposite way it play , they confuse the defence so much that its hard to tell which rb has the ball!!! Roswell put up the best fight out of any team they have played this year, lowndes fans said!! allthough roswell lost i still look forward for lowndes to win state , because if there good enough to hold roswell like they did last friday then they shere do diserve a shot at state again! GOOD LUCK CAMDEN BECAUSE UR GOING TO NEED IT!! I WISH THE LOWDES TEAM THE BEST OF LUCK!!! YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL DEAL!!!
By Chamblee All The Way
December 3, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Coach Showfety has definitely earned Coach of the Year out right for this season. He has done the best job that anybody could have ever done turning the Chamblee team around. This is their first trip to the Dome in 42 years and they have looked amazing during every game this season with only losing 1 game. Coach Showfety has a handful with all of his responsiblities with the team and all the coaching that he does (including offensive coordinator and offensive line coach). Chamblee all the way! Go Bulldogs!
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
Camden fan, you should know that you have to play someone at some point if you want to win a State Championship. I know that you can not control your geography. However, when you spend the regular season playing the likes of Savannah, Beach, Groves, & Johnson HS (among others), you have to face a little competition. Those Savannah area high schools have AAA enrollment and Camden is one of the largest high schools outside of metro Atlanta. You can not eat cupcakes all the way to a State Championship.
By Lion's Den
December 3, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
First of all….Congratulations to Walton HS for their victory this past weekend vs MLK. It was a great game and we wish you well this weekend in the GA Dome. It was really awesome to watch both teams come together at mid field and kneel in prayer after a gut wrenching game.
I’m going to try and take the high road and NOT go into details, but it is an absolutely shame the way this game was called and something has to be done about the officiating. Diversity has to be implemented to make sure the games are officiated properly and it is totally unfair to all kids when the games are not called fairly.
Anytime an MLK player showed any emotion during the game they were called for “unsportsman like conduct”; when the same emotion was displayed from Walton “NO FLAGS”. Guess who all the holding calls went against???
I can not believe we’re still dealing with this non-sense in 2007….LET THE KIDS PLAY BALL AND THE BEST TEAM WIN!
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this
To roswell student: Thanks for the pep talk. lol. Yeah their offense is so confusing because they run the Wing T. Not many people have seen it. It’s the same as Camden’s offense. Yeah Lowndes has a great team. Camden has known this since 2002. North GA is just beginning to realize it. It’s no surprise to Camden fans. Speed is required to be able to play with any Lowndes team!!
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
Chris all of the South GA football doubters are hiding. Of course, Darryl Maxie still has to work and say something on Friday. He will have to crawl from under his rock while eating a little South GA football is dead crow. You should see how the ten or fifteen HS football fans in Atlanta are cheerleading together for these weak programs like Walton and Tucker. Little do they know that each Middle and South GA team is bringing 8,000-12,000 to the Dome Friday and Saturday.
It is very likely that metro Atlanta will walk away with no State Championships. That is hilarious since AAAAA is practically all metro Atlanta teams except for 2 regions. They still can’t win. As for AAAA, it is nice that the Atlanta media is attempting to create some drama. Tucker is Atlanta’s last hope. We all know what Northside is going to do to Tucker…and it will not be pretty. In AAA, it is basketball season in Atlanta. So much for the great football programs of Atlanta. What a joke!
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
To NorthsideOwnsGA: That’s true man!! We’re really just glad to be in the Dome. I’m glad you’re playing in AAAAA. Maybe it’ll give Northside a chance to REALLY prove themselves. I would love to see you play Lowndes and Camden teams. We’ll see what you really have when you play Tucker. Focus on that.
By ltown66
December 3, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
I really don’t care for many in season rematches. But I am sure Walton is thankful for another shot at NG. I predicted MLK v. NG in the semifinals. I like NG to beat Walton again. Just like they handle Brookwood twice this season.
By justafan
December 3, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
To Lions Den, I think it is horrible the way that you make it seem like your refs were racist. Did you happen to watch the WV/Pitt game? Pitt got some of the worst calls I have ever seen in my life. 2 phantom holds, excessive celebration and a complete missed pass interference by the refs against WV. They still found a way to win. What about Roswell/PR? They also got a bum call. It happens all the time and I don’t think it is because of race.
By yo
December 3, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
I’m going to try and take the high road and NOT go into details So much for that thought.
By justafan
December 3, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
To Lions Den, I think it is horrible the way that you make it seem like your refs were racist. Did you happen to watch the WV/Pitt game? Pitt got some of the worst calls I have ever seen in my life. 2 phantom holds, excessive celebration and a complete missed pass interference by the refs against WV. They still found a way to win. What about Roswell/PR? They also got a bum call. It happens all the time and I don’t think it is because of race.
By TCC Grad
December 3, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
To NorthSideOwnsGa. I believe NS ownership just started last yr with their lone state championship. Let’s not get it twisted. Let’s see how much ownership you have of Ga next season when you have to play in region 1-AAAAA with Lowndes and Valdosta. I promise you your deslusional rants will come to an end. By the way, did you forget that Thomas County Central has at least 5 state championships and that IF Northside beats Tucker they will have to play the TRUE OWNERS of GA. BTW, they’re from that region 1 area.
By jvillebil
December 3, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
If Ware County’s defense keeps playing lights out, they could sneak into the finals
By Chamblee is NO surprise
December 3, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
Last year’s Chamblee’s team was probably better than this team, maybe the defense. Last year, if you slowed Roddy down you slowed the whole team down. But with the new and improved coaching staff, they have a new attitude. You can’t key on any one player, they all can beat you. They can beat you on the ground or in the air, whatever it takes. Be ready for a dog fight. Chamblee hasn’t been BEATEN (outplayed) by any team the last two seasons. They lost 2 games last season by a total of 4 points, which kept them out of the playoffs because of sub-region rules. I like that Chamblee is a surprise because you never know what you’re gonna get. Ask Stephens County and Flowery Branch about being a surprise, you see what they got. They had to overcome two very powerful and well-coached teams. Chamblee outlasted the #2 team in Class AAA, are they still a surprise? I don’t think so. You better believe that Carver is working extra hard to prepare themselves for this game. The media has pumped Carver up to be the big Goliath, but you know what happened to him. 99-1, give me a break. If it was Stephens County, would they have the same odds?
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Camden fan: Northside has played Camden County before. For a matter of fact, Camden has NEVER beaten a high school team from the city of Warner Robins. You are not chatting with an Atlanta area fan. I do not believe that the few out of Atlanta chatters should turn upon one another. Nonetheless, The fact is Northside (2-0 vs. Camden) has run up the score on Camden.
We are in no way intimidated by AAAAA competition. There is a reason we are Nationally ranked and 42-1 in the past 3 seasons. When we won the AAAA State Championship last season we ran up the score on AAAAA quarterfinalist Houston County and AAAAA semifinalist Warner Robins.
Another fact, our enrollment has placed our Eagles in AAAAA next season. We have no way to control enrollment. To suggest that Northside has not played plenty of big games against the Camden’s, Lowndes, Warner Robins, and Parkviews of the world is not true. By the way, Northside is 5-1 against Lowndes County dating back to 1966. We crushed them 28-3 the last time we played them and 40-6 the time before that. Again, we are not some meek program like Beach. Save that trash for a program that does not regularly crack Camden and Lowndes. Northside is a combined 7-1 against Camden and Lowndes. Your silence is golden.
Good luck against Lowndes.
By NHS EAGLE #1 FAN
December 3, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Why does everyone question if NSWR can play in 5A? They must have forgotten that the EAGLES played 5A in the past years and almost won a state title then. The were beaten by good Parkview team. They would be able to beat most of the 5A teams now. Every year they play their city rivals who were 5A teams this year. I can say they beat them pretty good this year. Houston Co. Bears have never won against them and they have always been 5A team. GO NSWR EAGLES BRING THE STATE TITLE BACK TO WR AND DO IT FOR CHRIS.
By NSHS FAN
December 3, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Hey Todd: It will be “on in the dome” Friday night-NSWR vs Tucker. Tucker has put up some large numbers against weak or slow Atlanta area teams. Notice something! When they played fast team like themselves they had trouble. For example, Mays 13-7, Washington 21-14 in overtime. Well NSWR is fast. The only team I saw faster was Westside of Macon. Tucker also seems “to have ” to rely on their speed for a lack of size. Small and fast will never beat large and fast. I hope they know NSWR is not Marist or ST. Pius. It will be a great game. I hope Coach Nix watches their play against Mays and Washington.
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
TCC Grad: There are only two Region 1-AAAAA teams that have a winning record against Northside. That is Valdosta and Warner Robins (who we have beaten 8 of the past 10 times). Check your facts and stop cheerleading. Northside has more wins in the past 10 years than any program in AAAAA or AAAA in this state. That is a fact. We are not intimidated by any of the fine programs in this state. We are 42-1 in the past 3 seasons and 121-12 in the past 10 seasons. Please stop telling me about TCC.
Has TCC ever played in the Georgia Dome since moving up from little AAA? It is an interesting question for me, because since moving down a city of Warner Robins school has played in the State Championship game in the past three seasons, winning twice. TCC’s and Marist’s level of play seems like the “Easy Button” for any real program.
Why is TCC winless against Northside? Don’t get sensitive. These are just come things we are curious about as we learn about your little program. My guess is you will roll over just like Marist did.
By NSHS FAN
December 3, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
To: Northside_Owns-Ga: WE pull for the same team NSWR “BUT” please change your blog name. Leave out “OWN” Man, other bloggers are beating us up. We don’t owns Gerogia, no one does. We have bloggers addressing when they won Championships years ago which doesn’t mean S@#%. Hell, this is 2007. All need to win in the dome Friday and at home; then talk the talk. What happened before is gone, the players, the coaches, etc. Be happy for the kids on 2007 play-off teams.
By TCC Grad
December 3, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
NorthsideOwnsGa…it’s obvious that you’re a great NSWR historian. However, could you please tell me how many STATE Championship has NSWR won? Great programs are judge by how many championship they won. Not by useless stats that don’t carry over to the record books. Let me give you a few facts you’ve failed to ignore. Since 1947, NSWR has only won ONE state champion. How is it possible to go 42-1 over 3 yrs with ONE state champion? You’ve had your 1 maybe 2 yrs of fame; now, please fall back into obscurity where you rightfully belong.
By Leon
December 3, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
“CONGRATULATION” - Way to go “WARE COUNTY GATORS” you deserve to be in the dome after that win on Friday night. Now what were some of the Habersham fans saying on Friday that they were going to come to South Georgia and do what to “WARE COUNTY GATORS” oh yea mop the floor did one fan say. I guess your team stayed home and someone else took ther place (30 to 0). Ok Ware County now is the time to get down to business, two wins away from the State Title. Lets go get it guys. Again CONGRATULATION also to Clinch, Camden and Lowndes.
By Carver-Columbus
December 3, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Hello Todd,
I have not been very active on the blog this year, due to the fact that the lobbying that I did for my Carver-Columbus Tigers to be ranked (and you said that they would have to beat Lagrange 63-0 before you would rank them #1…But, that was last year) after they beat Shaw last year…. Anyway….
A second consecutive trip to the GA Dome later…. My Tigers have grown up, and just like I warned you last year, this is a young and extremely talented team that you can’t overlook that will be around for a few years when it comes to title talks. The proud tradition of sending at least one kid to a Division-1 (now FBS) football program per year continues, and as I gaze into our stable of athletes, that tradition won’t be broken anytime soon. That streak started in 1985. We have a streak of 2 or more kids going to a Division II or lower football program every year starting back in 1979. This is just to let you know that we have always had good athletes, although the record may not have shown it.
My question is will the winner of the Cairo/North Hall game come to Columbus for the AAA championship? No disrepect to Chamblee… I stated my question that way, because it is obvious that you guys would be on the road if you won against us since you were not a #1 seed and the rest of us (Carver/Cairo/North Hall) are.
Go Tigers!!!
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
On more thing TCC Grad, I believe a program called Valdosta would differ with your opinion that 5 (AAA) state titles makes you the owner of the state of GA. Frankly, I was speaking in the present. Since Northside has been the only nationally ranked team from the Peach State, those in the know obviously agree with me in their assessment of who owns GA.
And do not forget to answer my question about how many trips TCC has even made to the Georgia Dome since moving up to AAAA competition. Don’t go into hiding TCC Grad and get shy on us now.
If TCC would like to view themselves as special, that is fine with me. On Friday night at 6 pm in the Dome, you are going to see special.
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
To NorthsideOwnsGA: You did beat us the last time you played about eight…..years ago!!! What have you done for me lately??!! Camden was extremely sorry back then. You also haven’t play a good Lowndes team in a while!!! There’s no need for us to fight because we’re both South. Camden is just now becoming a respectable team I admit!! Who have you beaten lately though??!!
Good luck against Tucker. lol
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
Also congrats to those WARE COUNTY GATORS!! Keep it up!!
By TCC Grad
December 3, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this
NorthsideOwnsGa: Again, you are right on with your facts sir. And yes, NSWR beat TCC 14-7 in their last meeting…call it home field advantage. I was at the game. BTW, great numbers again for NSWR. But, I ask you again, how many state champions does NSWR have in any classificaiton? It’s that what great programs are remembered by? You’ll like the little kid in the class room jumping up & down saying…”notice me, notice me”. Do something worth while and fame will come “grass-hopper”
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Maybe this will help you TCC Grad. http://www.northsidefootball.com/results.php
In the past 10 seasons, Northside has (in fact) won more games than any program in Georgia in AAAAA or AAAA. I do not wish to argue with you. The facts speak for themselves, like Northside’s record against TCC, Camden, and Lowndes County. Earlier you were claiming that playing Lowndes would be tough for Northside. In their one win against Northside, we choked away a 28-3 lead. In the past 10 seasons, Northside has had 5 one loss seasons and two undefeated seasons
1998: 12-1 1999: 13-1 2001: 13-1 2003: 11-1 2005: 14-1 2006: 15-0 2007: 13-0
That is great no matter how you cut it TCC Grad. You can not argue with 121-12 in the past decade. Can you? Look at what TCC has done in AAAA. For you to stand critical of Northside’s run and call it two years of fame is somewhat of a stretch.
Do you have an answer on TCC and their performance in AAAA? AAAA has been the “Easy Button” for Northside.
By Todd Holcomb
December 3, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
It was really awesome to watch both teams come together at mid field and kneel in prayer after a gut wrenching game.
I attended the MLK-Walton game, and I was moved by the sportsmanship after the game. Walton’s coach, instead of celebrating w/ his players, was helping some of the MLK players off the turf who were in tears after losing a game on the final play. An MLK player, I believe it was No. 37, then led both teams in prayer afterward at midfield. There seemed to be a great deal of mutual respect there.
It is very likely that metro Atlanta will walk away with no State Championships. That is hilarious since AAAAA is practically all metro Atlanta teams except for 2 regions. They still can’t win.
Do you really believe that? That there likely won’t be an metro Atlanta champions? …
Buford wins at Charlton, and Lovett wins at Thomasville, and Lowndes and Camden already have home losses to metro teams that lost in the first round, and you’re ready to write off metro Atlanta?
It’s remarkable to me how many fans in South Georgia don’t respect metro Atlanta, and how some fans in metro Atlanta don’t respect South Georgia.
You folks at the AJC always want to ignore Lowndes until they come up here and kick your *ss and it’s unavoidable to recognize them as being in Georgia.
Well, I for one have said since the eighth week of the season that Lowndes was the team to beat. I don’t share quite your confidence about the Vikes, as I think all four semifinalists are very capable of winning it.
By TCC Grad
December 3, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
NorthsideOwnsGa: No need to be shy. Unlike NSWR, TCC has actual numbers that carry weight. TCC played in the AAAA final 4 in 2002 & 2003 and last played in the state championship game in 2002. See, finally numbers that matter. Finally, I’m starting to here crickets. Your silence is very refreshing.
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this
To Todd Holcomb: Concerning the Lowndes and Camden losses at the beginning of the season. Those were two losses that were flukes. This is apparent seeing as how the two teams that defeated Lowndes and Camden aren’t even in the playoffs anymore. Since then Lowndes and Camden have sifted through some very good Atlanta teams. They are better than they were THE FIRST GAME OF THE SEASON!! Can you deny that whoever wins between Camden and Lowndes is the favorite to win the state championship?
By AVikingfan
December 3, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
Last week the AJC came out with the TOP TEN PLAYMAKERS IN GA HIGHSCHOOL ands somehow left Greg Reid off the list. Does anyone at ROSWELL or DOUGLASS think he should have not been included on that list? And, keep in mind he’s only a JR! He was selected first team All Region on Offense and Defense, and the Region Player of the Year!
We are grateful to still be playing and are very VERY worried about facing a GREAT Camden team Saturday night in the Dome.
With so many South GA teams still playing and will be at the Dome, North Ga should quit talking so much smack. Especially when you consider there are a lot more teams with a lot more students in North GA.
Goooooo South GA
By Bryan
December 3, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
TCC won their state championships at AAA when AAAA was the highest classification
By Carlton
December 3, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
Who is surprised? The southern teams always clean the clock of the northern teams at this time of the year. Although I now live in Memphis, I love to keep up with Ga HS football as I grew up in south Ga. The northern (should I say Atlanta area)guys get all the hype and publicity from the AJC but the southerners take the titles at the end of the year!!! Go Cook and Lowndes.
By gaprepfootballfan
December 3, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
I would like to congratulate Chamblee on an incredible season. For those who don’t know, Stephens County was beating Chamblee 50-42 with just a few seconds left in the ballgame. Back at about their own 30 yard line Chamblee had to go almost 70 yards with no time remaining to make it 50-48. They then got a 2 point conversion to send it into overtime. Why the Stephens County coaching staff didn’t drop back 8 good hands defenders and rush 3 is their decision, I just don’t understand it. Chamblee got the win but they didn’t outplay Stephens County. Humble goes a long way.
By yo
December 3, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
Northside Owns Ga…..we are looking forward to the future and changing that 5-1 past. I believe we will and to our benefit. Lowndes. You own the first 5 1/2 games and we owned the last 1/2 game. The tide has turned, permanently! ps-It will not be just Lowndes and Valdosta you need to fear in 1AAAAA. You will be facing murderers row in the future year after year after year and you will have to bring it every week. No wimps left on your schedule for the future. Good luck this year. As a future 1AAAAA team I am pulling for you till you play TCC. They are already in region 1 so I have to give them the nod then, assuming they do get past Ware. Having played Ware, not a safe assumption to assume any thing with them. When Ware plays up to its potential they will be very tough.
By Vike in Atl
December 3, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
I agree with Camden Fan. You can’t compare any of the teams now to what they were in the first game of the season. Lowndes’ toughest game this season was not Roswell. Lowndes ran up over 250 yards in the first half against them. Their toughest game this season was Valdosta. Those two always get fired up against each other and if they ever meet up in a championship final, there had better be some EMT trucks standing by. With Lowndes, Valdosta and now Northside in Region 1, whoever makes it to the top at the end of the regular season is going all the way.
By NTH Trojans
December 3, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this
Carver, Columbus,
If I read the by-laws right on the GHSA website, because BOTH North Hall and Cairo are #1 seeds along with Carver, then it would come down to a coin toss. Unfortunately, Carver does not win many of those.
Chamblee,
Don’t worry about what Todd says here on this blog, his horse this year is Carver. I, for one, think that they are an extremely talented team, but they can be beat. As for as Todd goes, he was on the North Hall bandwagon as long as they were blowing people out, but as soon as they had one or two close games, he jumped ship. In my personal opinion, those close games just reinforced that they are not just an offensive team, they can play whatever style you want to play with them. As for Chamblee, I stated in last weeks’ blog that I think that both semifinals in AAA are going to be close. I wonder how many times this year Carver has seen the wishbone? Because if you are not used to seeing it, then it is confusing, and hard to defend. I’ve talked to some people that were at the Chamblee/FB game and some people that were at the Chamblee/SC game, and they all said practically the ame thing, that Chamblee was fast, well coached, disciplined, and ran the wishbone exceptionally well. Good Luck, Hope to see you in the finals.
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
Again TCC Grad the numbers are interesting. TCC reaches the State in the lower classification. We give the Yellow Jackets due respect for their on-the-field accomplishments. Atlanta builds so many huge high schools and the population soars in metro Atlanta so much that larger classification schools are rearranged. This came following the 2003 season (the last time anyone has heard from little TCC).
Since that time, TCC has not been heard from. I am not attempting to show disrespect for TCC’s proud tradition. Most of your roster has NEVER seen TCC win at the highest levels. In 1997, these kids were 6 or 7 years old. I bet TCC players know all about Northside…all they need to due is look at any national poll to see how Northside is doing or look to the top of Georgia’s polls (every year). They wonder how fast Northside is. They wonder how big Northside players are. They wonder how loud McConnell-Talbert Stadium is. Don’t they?
It is challenging to argue with 121-12 over a 10 year period. It is challenging to argue with Northside Coach Conrad Nix’s ridiculous numbers and record as a Georgia HS coach.
Since the classifications were realigned in 2004, TCC has been an afterthought because larger schools now play TCC’s little Class AAAA.
No traditional AAA team has won state and only Marist has even reached State since realignment in ‘04 (we all remember how that game went for Marist and their White Buffalo - we placed them on the extinction list). For a matter of fact, Northside and Ware County were realigned to AAAA. My guess is they will be playing one another a week from Friday in Warner Robins.
It is interesting that the runs to the Georgia Dome stopped when TCC had to play better competition. Again, since Warner Robins area schools were first realigned to AAAA in 2004, a team from the city of Warner Robins has reached the State Championship game each time. That has to tell you something TCC Grad. Perhaps, you are just stubborn and refuse to accept the facts.
2004: Warner Robins beat Statesboro 2005: Statesboro (also a realigned AAAA program) beat Northside 2006: Northside beat Marist (one of the few traditional AAA programs that was able to make it through)
I guess my point, in as respectful way as I can say it, is TCC has not been the same TCC since TCC has to play better competition. Northside has one State Championship, two State Runner-Ups, and five trips to the Georgia Dome in the past decade. I don’t believe anyone from Northside is very concerned about TCC or a poorly coached Tucker team (for that matter). Class AAAA is like pushing the “Easy Button” for Northside.
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
I must say that now that Northside is moving to AAAAA, North GA. can no longer compete!!!
By NTH Trojans
December 3, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Todd,
I was wondering when you were going to jump ship on North Hall. Just tell one thing, how many times have you seen them play this year? My guess is zero. NH had two close games in the last two weeks and, after everyone wondering how they would respond, won them both. I don’t agree with the play calling in the second half (I think that he tightened up a little and got too conservative), but we still prevailed. Cairo is a very good team, and I look for it to be a close game that either team could win. I think that game will be the best game of the weekend.
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
TCC Grad: Doesn’t every team in your region make the playoffs? How convenient. Are you really attempting to beat your chest about winning this region year in and year out. I am not certain half of TCC’s region could beat Northside’s JV team. I’m serious.
http://www.gasports.com/?t=30&v=7&w=1&wy=2008&s=1&tm=1&class=4®ion=1
For playing in such a bad region is reason alone for not being considered among Georgia’s elite until you actually beat someone. Marist does not count, TCC Grad. This is your big moment, TCC Grad. We both know how this story is going to end (with you eating crow, just like everyone else who questions Northside. LOL.
Last season, we heard that we had not won state. Now, we get the silly chatter that we have not won enough State Titles. Northside is the best team in this state and everyone knows it…including TCC Grad.
By Fan of all
December 3, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
TO: Lions den
“Diversity has to be implemented to make sure the games are officiated properly and it is totally unfair to all kids when the games are not called fairly.”
You have got to be kidding. How do you know the emotions shown from players from Walton and MLK were the same? Were you on the field and know what was said by one compared to another? It might have looked the same yet different things could have been said. Please leave the racial crap out of everything and quit blaming everything on it. It gets really old and you are dealing with this “non-sense” as you put it because you choose to.
By yo
December 3, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this
Go Clinch and Cook and Ware and TCC and Cairo and Lowndes. The southern most South! Also to NSHS and Carver, Col. and Dublin and Wilcox Cty. and ECI. The mid south of the South! Sorry Camden…can’t pull for you since you are going against my boys. That is 12 out of the 20 possible slots left from The South. Yep! I hope I didn’t leave any body out.
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
To AVikingfan: Camden is also focused on a VERY good Lowndes team. I saw the Roswell game and Lowndes has an extraordinary running game!! Greg Reid hurdled a Roswell player at the beginning of the game!! lol
By will
December 3, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this
todd todd todd , the second most underated team you said last was walton better made the MOST underated team left , todd if walton wins state will you give your favorite blogger a shout out in the paper
By yo
December 3, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this
I’m sorry make the 13 of the possible 20 slots left from the South…I did forget to count Camden.
By Chamblee All The Way
December 3, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this
gaprepfootballfan-
First of all, thank you for commending Chamblee. However, your stats and scores are completely wrong. Chamblee clearly outplayed Stephens County because there was no way Stephens County could stop Chamblee’s offense, nor could Chamblee stop Stephens County’s offense. But first of all, Chamblee scored to tie up the ball game and decided to go for a 2 pt conversion, to take the lead by one point with a little over a minute left in the 4th quarter. Somehow Stephens County found a way to score with 30 seconds left (after squib kick kickoff to the 50 yard line) and went for 2, to make it a 7 point ball game with 25 seconds left. Then Chamblee went 70 yards in one play to send the game into OT with only 7 seconds left. Chamblee won in the 1st OT by going for the 2 point conversion. Chamblee clearly outplayed Stephens County by the great calls of Coach Showfety! Go Bulldogs!
By HSballfan
December 3, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
To NorthsideOwnsGA: I just don’t understand why, with an obviously excellent football team on the field, some of you people persist in useless insults aimed at the opposition. Referring to Tucker as a “weak program” and “poorly coached” only tells me your mouth is located where your a* is supposed to be. Do you know anything about Tucker or Franklin Stephens at all, or did you copy your blog from the gorillas down at the zoo at feeding time? Seriously, give it a rest. It’ll be decided on the field and you might be in for a surprise.
By SD
December 3, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
As an outside observer with knowledge of both programs, Northside can’t hold a candle to TCC. Yes, Northside has put together some excellent seasons in the past 10 years. The question to ask is during that streak, how many titles do they have? 1. In regards to their record, TCC put together some good and okay seasons during a 10 year stretch in the 90’s (not too mention some good seasons after the millenium). And how many times did they seal the deal? 5. One of those title runs (the first) consisted of a 5-5 regular season, which would qualify as a blip in history had they not won the state title that year. Therefore, regular season records are more or less irrelevant if you don’t win the title. They grant you bragging rights (yes, NS beat TCC recently) but aside from that, they make no mark on history. Anyway, I really hope to see them play this year in the championship. That would be a barn burner….
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
Yo: You may not remember. However, Northside had a coach named Stan Gann in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This was back when Georgia had only four different classifications. We played one or two Region 1 team back when we were in Region 4-AAAA with Warner Robins, the Macon schools, Baldwin, and 3 Augusta area schools, annually.
We know what we are getting into. Remember, our crosstown Warner Robins Demons and Houston County Bears (two teams that we manhandled) represented your region in the semifinals and quarterfinals of AAAAA, respectively, last season. Our two other city schools have been playing in that region. We are not entering foreign territory.
The collapse against Lowndes came in 1999 and the entire Eagle Nation remembers it. It may rank as the most devastating loss in Northside history. You are correct, in 6 games versus Lowndes we are 5.5-0.5. Ha! Ha!
Good luck to you in the Dome. Be rest assured the Northside is the last program that fears competition. I look forward to playing in Region 1-AAAAA. We know most of you boys real well. If you do not know us, you will. Soon.
By ballstr1
December 3, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
Yeah I had MLK/NG matching up. That would have been a great matchup. I think NG will knock out Walton again. But Walton is always tough because they make very few turnovers and that kicker is clutch.
By james
December 3, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Todd, you attended the MLK-Walton game. Just as you stated a great game, great sportsmanship, and great performances when the game was on the line. The TD pass by MLK’s QB at the end of game, the throws and catches made in the 2 minute offense by Walton, and the game winning kick.
Some questionalble calls by the officals……..but a great game. Please give us your take!!
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
Congrats to Coach Franklin Stephens of Tucker for getting this far. Good luck!!!
By yo
December 3, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Chamblee clearly outplayed Stephens County because there was no way Stephens County could stop Chamblee’s offense, nor could Chamblee stop Stephens County’s offense Out of curiosity, if neither team could stop the other how is it one clearly out played the other.
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
Apologies to South GA. I’m kinda partial to Tucker because of Coach Stephens.
By Bryan
December 3, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
NorthsideownsGa:
This isn’t the decent TCC team that Northside struggled with a couple of years ago….
By country boy
December 3, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
Well, well Mr. Holcombe - once again you and your transplanted yankee brethren from LOSERVILLE have the ununique and annual opportunity to hip hop on Marta to the “Atlanta Dome” and watch some real high school football. Football provided by teams hundreds of miles SOUTH of the football mecca of Atlanta. Your AAAAA ( Lowndes ) and AAAA ( Northside Warner Robins or TCC ) will be in town for quick visits before taking state titles. Your paper should cover south GA football - when you only cover Atlanta teams that is the same as covering minor league baseball. And while I’m on a rant - - would it kill you tract house, cookie cutter, bedroom community transplants to name a high school after something that doesn’t sound like a cemetery??? Brookwood, Pebblebrook, Meadowcreek, Mill Creek, Creekside, Creekview, Parkview, Northview…. so how long before you throw up PussyWillow High ???? I guess that’s what you name a school when you have no tradition, no heritage and no sense of community.
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
Bryan: The fact remains that, yet again, TCC lost to top tier competition. We don’t wish to hear any excuses. With the exception of a very good TCC program, Region 1-AAAA is one of the state’s worst. Northside has played all of the top competition in this state. We are not going to listen to chest pumping from a program that basically has intersquad practice through JV level competition.
That region is a joke: 2007, http://www.gasports.com/?t=30&v=7&w=1&wy=2008&s=1&tm=1&class=4®ion=1
2006 (every other team has a losing record), http://www.ghsfha.org/rstandings.php?gSort=6
It is bad football. End of story.
By TCC ROCKS
December 3, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
All them haters (Northside) ya’ll better watch our Tucker is going to beat ya’ll and you won’t even have a chance vs. us. By the way Thomas County Central has a way more storied program than Northside. By the way you don’t want to play us at the jackets nest, Pilcher is unbeatable there!!!
By AVikingfan
December 3, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
To Camden Fan: I still have a baby blue tobogggan that some lady from St. Marys gave me in the lobby of the Omni Hotel following our 30-0 game against ya’ll in the dome a few years ago. She said we almost beat your clothes off so she gave me the toboggan. I told her if they ever beat us in the dome I’d give it back. I’ll have it with me Saturday, but I sure hope I can take it back home and put it back into my trophy case. Regardless of which of us wins, I sure hope the winner wins the next week against the North GA wine-er. Brookfan and others like him can wine and mope and moan for another year! You said you saw us and Roswell. Do You think Greg Reid should have been on that list of TOP TEN PLAYMAKERS last week? I’m anxious to see your QB play. I’ve heard he’s good.
By Flatstick
December 3, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this
Good luck this Weekend to Camden - your program and fans have a lot of class - it is great not to have to read all of the trash from some of these other so called fans that just want to put everyone down - also good luck to all of the South Ga teams - you have made to the semifinals with class. GO VIKINGS!!!!!
By UrFugginDisgusting
December 3, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this
NorthsideOwnsGA
Ok, so both Northside’s and Thomas County Central’s success speak for themselves but dude, stfu!! You’re making Northside look bad!! You’re running your mouth as if YOU PERSONALLY led Northside to 10 consecutive titles from your 3rd to 12th grade years!! Let it go. I mean, are they even playing TCC this weekend??
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
FACT: Thomas County Central is undefeated this season and carries a rich tradition in Georgia. Including this outstanding undefeated year, TCC has lost more games in the past 5 years (14) than Northside has lost in the past decade (12).
These are the facts! Northside is 121-12 in the past 10 seasons. TCC is 48-14. Let’s not confuse ourselves. TCC plays very, very weak competition (primarily due to geography…something they can not control). However, when Ware County was in their region, Ware County pushed TCC around and every Yellow Jacket blogger knows this is true. TCC went 4-6 in 2004, while Ware went 12-2…I repeat 4-6. Great programs do not go 4-6…EVER. By the way, TCC finished 2nd in the region that year…that is how bad the region is year in and year out.
Yes, you guys are correct. Northside doesn’t hold a candle to TCC. NHS simply blowtorch them out of the conversation.
Northside football means 12 losses in 10 years. TCC means 14 losses in 5 years. These are the facts, which can NOT be debated. It is already in the books. You can’t spin 121-12 in the past 10 years and 48-14 in the past 5 years. We all know Northside is better, sorry I mean MUCH BETTER.
By Chamblee All The Way
December 3, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this
Yes I agree, the way I worded that may have sounded confusing. But that game was all offense and it was a shootout. Gaprepfootball fan said that Stephens County outplayed Chamblee even though they did not. If they outplayed Chamblee they would not have allowed a 70 yard touchdown pass with 15 seconds left in the game to send the game into overtime. Also, is Stephens County outplayed Chamblee, then overtime should have been a breeze. Too bad Chamblee scored in two plays and then made the two point conversion easily on a halfback sweep to win the game. That is how Chamblee outplayed Stephens County. GO BULLDOGS!!
By GA Cracker
December 3, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
Todd,
Having seen both Lowndes and Camden live and in person, I have to disagree with your prediction. I would be very surprised if either team scored 21 points. (unless there were an inordinate number of turnovers)….Camden’s Defense has played as well as the 2003 championship team…Lowndes has played well, but has given up a few more points……my take is Camden 14 Lowndes 7……not much running goin on in this ball game….yards will be at a premium.
By Camden Fan
December 3, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
To AVikingfan: Regardless of which one of us wins I hope the same. Greg Reid is an incredible runner. I haven’t seen anyone else run the ball like him. Of course he should have been on that list hands down!! We just have to remember that Todd and Maxie have to sell newspapers in Atlanta. Nobody in Atlanta cares about South GA. teams that much. Anyway I think our quarterback is pretty good. He’s pretty smart as well and has deceptive speed. I saw him outrun some cornerbacks in the Warner Robins game!!
By TCC Grad
December 3, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
My NorthsideOwnsGa: Did you just move to Ga or are you some child prodigy that was just born within the last 5 yrs? You speak of NSWR football as if it actually has some real signficate in Ga sports history. There’s a couple other posters who have chimmed in (Bryan & SD) to try and help you SEE THE LIGHT. The first step to recovery is admitting the truth that NSWR has only 1 state title. The 2nd step is realizing that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to go 42-1 over 3 yrs with only 1 state title. The #’s simply don’t add up. Now you tell, me which numbers would you rather have 5 state titles or 1 state title? How about you ask Coach Conrad Nix which chatter is sillier? And then ask him what numbers would he rather have: 121-12 over a 10 year period = 1 state title or 5 state titles. Actually, it’s really a shame to know that NSWR did all that hard work for only 1 title. And you’re actually bragging about it. Log off and do use all a favor!!
By Jaybird229
December 3, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
To TCC Fans: You have a very storied program during your stretch run of titles in the 90’s. So why do you continue to bring up that Northside hasn’t played anybody or has only won one state title. Northside has been a continious force for the last decade even while playing in AAAAA. TCC has not been very good over the same time span. You have two final four appearances and one state title appearance against Thomson in ‘02. Other than that, there hasn’t been much to boast or brag about. So why do you come on and talk about how you’ve won five titles and blah blah blah, yet complain if a Valdosta fan comes on and references their 23 state titles. The first thing out of your mouth is what have they done lately? And that’s exactly my point. The TCC team is having a great year, but this is the best team they’ve had since 02 and arguably this past decade. But they haven’t done anything yet in AAAA. No titles. So until they win one, I don’t see TCC fans’ points in hollering about how great and storied TCC is. We live in a what have you done for me lately society, so until they do something recent and finish the deal, the trash talk can sease. Also I don’t see why people think Northside will struggle in AAAAA. They have already proven they can win there. It’s kind of confusing to me why people think they can’t win against better competition. Any who, go South GA!!! (except TCC, sorry Jackets-Rule #1 for a Syrupmaker is you don’t root for Central regardless of whether it will effect our team or not. LOL)
By Ears can hear..Eyes can see
December 3, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
The Walton High School Football Story regarding the brothers was something the AJC had already decided they WANTED to print and therefore if MLK had won the story line would have been inappropriate at that time. So Walton HAD to win…BY ANY MEANS NECESARY! SHAME ON YOU AJC..AND SHAME ON THE REFS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT GAME! CHEATERS NEVER WIN!
By Ears can hear..Eyes can see
December 3, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
The Walton High School Football Story regarding the brothers was something the AJC had already decided they WANTED to print and therefore if MLK had won the story line would have been inappropriate at that time. So Walton HAD to win…BY ANY MEANS NECESARY! SHAME ON YOU AJC..AND SHAME ON THE REFS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT GAME! CHEATERS NEVER WIN!
By Ears can hear..Eyes can see
December 3, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this
The Walton High School Football Story regarding the brothers was something the AJC had already decided they WANTED to print and therefore if MLK had won the story line would have been inappropriate at that time. So Walton HAD to win…BY ANY MEANS NECESARY! SHAME ON YOU AJC..AND SHAME ON THE REFS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT GAME! CHEATERS NEVER WIN!
By Tucker Fan
December 3, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Hey NorthsideOwnsGeorgia why are you so obsessed with mentioning Marist in your blogs? They are not even in the running this year. There is no comparison of Tucker to Marist, but we have much respect for them. They are a school with about 1/3 of the population of AAAA schools and offered no excuses for the championship game last year. You didn’t know they were missing two of their starting backs on offense and their starting DB in that game did you?That’s because they offered no excuses for losing. You getting on here and bashing makes your fans look really bad. Looking forward to the game Friday and I hope I meet the real N’side fans, not the one on here bashing other teams.
By will
December 3, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
todd, hello i would love response . walton gets redemption and camden upsets the vikes .walton vs camden at raider valley , i call it the Rich Kids vs The Readnecks . todd will it take a title to get walton the buzz all though state that the raiders deserve.
By Northside_Owns_GA
December 3, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
TCC has been far from storied since the realignment, which creates questions about the accomplishments in the 1990s. TCC is a one decade wonder. Take away the 1990s from TCC and you have any run of the mill program. Northside has had state ranked teams in each of the past 3 of the 4 past decades facing nationally ranked competition like Valdosta, Warner Robins, LaGrange, and Parkview.
In the past decade, TCC has only had 8 winning seasons (in three of those seasons TCC was barely over 0.500 at 7-5 in 1998; 6-5 in 1999; and 7-5 in 2001). TCC was 4-6 just 3 years ago. Remember TCC is in a region that practically guarantees they reach the playoffs. Look at Northside’s current region with 3 teams that have been in the top 5 in the state in NHS, Westside, and Baldwin (NHS vs. Baldwin was the ESPN National Game of the Week — you will never see that with TCC’s cupcake schedule).
It is an insult to compare TCC to Northside. TCC was once a great program. Then, the state of Georgia grew and TCC had to play real teams.
TCC has lost more games in the past 5 years than Northside had lost in the past 10. How do you spin that story?
Northside 121-12 since 1998. TCC 88-36 since 1998 (and only 8 winning seasons). Oh yes, TCC in the past 5 years 48-14. Look at the deadbeat region competition these guys face. Are you kidding me? TCC is not even in the same breath as Northside.
The facts speak for themselves. What are you guys talking about storied? Valdosta HS is storied. Warner Robins HS is storied. TCC is a good little program that is going to get hammered in the Georgia Dome by Ware County. If they happen to make it past the Dome (which is highly unlikely), then you can read the Marist ‘06 story to see what will happen next to TCC. It is not a story for small children, because it was very ugly. Put them to bed before you start reading it.
By Chris Whitfield
December 3, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
James I will comment since I was there covering the game for the paper. It was one of the best high school football games that I saw in years, and I have been covering high schools for the better part of two decades. As well as both teams played, it was one of those situations where an outsider can see how it was a shame either had to lose. Great start by MLK, great comeback by Walton, great final drive and score by MLK, even better final drive and score by Walton to win it. I didn’t see any egregious errors by the officiating, and as far as racial concerns, the official that threw the defensive holding penalty on MLK during Walton’s final drive was black. It was also a great penalty for MLK since the DB would have been seriously beat if he hadn’t held since he bit on the fake. As far as the unsportsmanlike penalty that was called against MLK, you can’t make a great play and then spike the ball at midfield and not expect some sort of penalty. I know it was a great play and exciting, but the game was played on Friday, not Sunday.
countryboy funny, but there isn’t a whole lot of originality in naming your school just for where it is located (i.e., Camden County, Coffee County, Lowndes). Sort of like having a Christian school in Savannah and naming it Savannah Christian. Ooooo, wait, that is where I graduated from.
By nhs forever
December 3, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
To “NorthsideOwnsGA”—Enough already, you’re just fueling the fire. No one from Tucker is on here trash talking Northside. They have a great team, thrashed a good Bainbridge team and will be extremely tough to beat. We don’t need to give them and their fans extra motivation. Believe me, I hope and believe the Eagles will win also, but let’s not get carried away here!
Northside historically hasn’t played their best games in the dome (see Lowndes 1999), so let’s keep it r