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Take 10: Why Georgia FB rules
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Sure, WE know Georgia is a great state for high school football. The best, even. But there are still states like Texas, California and Florida that want to claim that mantle — and Take Ten is here to defend Georgia’s honor.
Don’t get us wrong. High school football is just fine in those states, but we can see their fatal flaws and expose them for the masses. And there are plenty of reasons Georgia beats them all down.
10: The Dome
When teams advance far enough in the playoffs, they get a chance to play at the Georgia Dome. Not every state gives its players a game on an NFL field, and it’s a great experience for those who get there. Starting next year, the Dome will host the state finals.
9: Coaching
Larry Campbell. Robert Davis. Luther Welsh. Conrad Nix. Buck Godfrey. Cecil Flowe. Those are just a few of the coaches who have become legends of sorts in Georgia football. According to the records at FootballFridayNights.com, only Iowa has more coaches in the list of top 25 active coaches by number of victories.
8: Athletes
You can’t sling a football in this state without hitting a big-time athlete or two. They’re everywhere. South Georgia. North Georgia. And, as Atlanta threatens to annex the entire state through relentless expansion, it starts to seem more and more that there isn’t a town in the state that doesn’t have a Division I-A prospect … or 30.
7: Parity
Especially in Class AAAAA, the debate rages whether this is a good thing for the state or if it would be better to have a powerhouse or two. But from a “this is fun to watch” standpoint, it’s great to have teams like North Cobb sneak up to the top. The powerhouse programs are having a harder time staying at the top, and everybody feels like they have a chance.
6: Weather
Everybody talks about how great the football in Florida is. Just try to make it through an entire summer and fall in central or south Florida. “Football weather” there means they have to wear t-shirts instead of tank tops. A “brisk fall evening” is one where the humidity drops to 99 percent. In Georgia, late-season football weather is chilly — like it should be. But it’s not brutal. Just cold enough to feel right.
5: The Southeast
This is the place where football is king. No region of the country has more of a rich football history than this one. Texas tries to claim itself as its own region, but even they can’t match the football pedigree of Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee, a triumvirate that has been competing in and watching the game for more than 100 years and takes it more seriously than anyone reasonably should.
4: Passionate fans
Goes hand-in-hand with No. 5, but it’s important to note for high school football in particular. Especially when comparing Georgia to California. Out there, they’ve got their pristine beaches, Hollywood, massive cities, hordes of people, activists and professional/college sports teams bursting at the seams. Fans there are known for having a laissez-faire attitude toward the teams they follow. Not in Georgia. Even the people in Atlanta have been accused of not being loyal enough to their pro teams. But there’s no such accusation at the high school level. The passion is always there.
3: No long, lonely drives
Ever driven down the highways in Texas? Some of them make the moon seem congested. You could fall asleep at the wheel, and it probably wouldn’t matter. Trying to follow Texas high school football outside of your hometown team takes several bottles of caffeine pills and a few gas cans. In Georgia, you can get just about anywhere without driving down lonely, deserted highways. You don’t have to sleep for 17 hours to prepare for a playoff road trip.
2: North vs. South
The rivalry has lost a bit of its intensity as the styles of play have become less identifiable to each region, but the North Georgia vs. South Georgia rivalry still brings plenty of debate from the state’s fans. It’s a debate that is uniquely Georgian, and it does its part to make Georgia high school football what it is.
1: Valdosta
They’re the top program in the nation, and the road trip to Bazemore-Hyder is a pilgrimage even out-of-state football fans want to take at least once. Other states certainly have their historic teams, but there’s only one Valdosta. And we have them.
Go on. Take Ten. Are you convinced yet? What did we miss? Is it even possible we’re wrong? Is there another state you can make a case for? Here’s your chance.
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By woody
November 7, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Fox Sports Pittsburgh shows live High School football regular season games of Western PA teams. That’s how important it is in Pittsburgh.
You guys have trouble getting your college and pro teams on the TV let alone the High Schools.
By joe
November 7, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
Fox Sports Pittsburgh shows live regulare season Hs football games. Dont see that down here.
So no you dont rule!
By Anthony
November 7, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
Georgia high school football is boring. I have yet to see a team from Georgia (Northside Warner Robins, MLK, Stephenson, or any of the Gwinnett teams) that I would compare with some of the top teams from Florida. I watched Northside Warner-Robins against Stockbridge and came away thinking that if Stockbridge had any kind of coaching, the game would have been much closer or they would have beat NS Warner-Robins. Stockbridge utilized at the most, 18 players while NS Warner-Robins seemed to use everyone. Who could compete with Miami Northwestern, Lakeland, Booker T. Washington, Kissimmee Osceola, or some of the second tier schools in Florida. Speed kills, that’s why everyone raids the State of Florida. Weather is a large factor as to why we are better than Georgia in football. Kids in Florida play year round because the whether allows them to do so. In Miami, there is a little league team every 5 miles or so. Track season is phenominal and then comes Spring Football Practice. Then comes the hot days of summer. Can’t get any better than that. We are born and raised to eat, sleep, play, and you know what; football all day every day.
By Joe Bryant
November 7, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
I doubt the Pittsburgh teams are any good….except for those Steelers!!!
By Mr.
November 7, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
The reason most games are not on t.v. is because everybodys at the games thats how important it is for georgians and besides you said only one side of the state is shown whats wrong with the south, east, and north PA must not have athletes like all of the DIRTY SOUTH!!!
By Doc
November 7, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this
If you like pittsburg football so much, MOVE BACK. If you could figure out how to use your tv remote you could find great Georgia football on every friday night on CSS. High school football in Georgia Rules.
By Skydawg
November 7, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
One thing that you forgot to mention is per capita rate of Division 1 players from the state of GA. When taking into account the populations of Texas, Florida and California; Georgia hands down places the most players in Division 1 and NFL on a per capita rate. That speaks volumes to the talent level and quality of high school football in the state of GA.
By Tha South
November 7, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
up north it is to cold for dudes to go outside a play thats why they dont have speed up their (Michigan)lol in the south is does not get that cold that means more outside exposure for boy to run around thats why some schools are recruiting the south so much.
By Skydawg
November 7, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this
To follow up my prior post, no Anthony, its simply a matter of numbers to choose those athletes. If GA had near the population of FL, it would dominate all high school football. FL is full of nothing but a bunch of prima donna athletes who feel its their right to play college ball and high school is just a formality.
By BXkid
November 7, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this
I’m from New York and I played 2 years of High School Football in GA. A lot of schools up North don’t even have football teams. And if you think PA has great football everyone knows that Elizabeth, NJ has the best football in the North not PA. Florida, yeah it’s the speed state but when it comes to coaching and fan support you are amongst the worst, you are to busy worrying about FSU, UF, Miami, USF and FAMU not to name the other teams that aren’t doing all that great besides USF. GA has true High School football tradition, they have the speed and the quality of players that it takes to play college and pro ball.
By Florida Native
November 7, 2007 10:51 AM | Link to this
Hey Skydawg:
By GeorgiaBoynTX
November 7, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
As I am fully able to defend my home state of GA since I grew up and played football there, from a team talent standpoint I could take Georgia’s top ten teams and match them against the top ten from TX and GA would be lucky to win 1 or 2. I wouldn’t even have to include TX’s top two programs (nationally ranked Southlake Carroll and Katy, TX). From a community passion standpoint, TX and GA are running neck-in-neck so I would call this even. As for history and tradition Valdosta is respected and I made the trip when SWD played them back in the 90’s but TX has Friday Night Lights. The Midland vs. Odessa rivalry is huge like the Army/Navy or GA/FL games!! Then you mention playing in an NFL stadium, it’s gotta be more thrilling to play in HISTORIC TEXAS STADIUM than the GA Dome and I love my FALCONS, by the way. As for the the legendary coaches, there are some here but not more because they move on to college or the pros, such as the latest local legend Todd Dodge who moved on to Div 1 North Texas from Southlake,TX-Carroll High. He went like 3-1 in state championship games in the last several years. As for Pro Prospects, last years MVP is a TEXAS boy and TCU graduate while this years most electrifying player is from Palestine, TX and will likely win the Rookie of the Year and maybe MVP award (unprecedented if he does)….Adrian Peterson, in case you didn’t know.
I love my home state of GA and if it wasn’t for work and a wife I would be living there. But, if you’re not convinced yet please let me know and I’ll send more (smile)!
By Jeff Haws
November 7, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Skydawg-
I didn’t bring those numbers up because I couldn’t find any recent information regarding that. But I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re right and, if you are, that’s an important piece of info to note.
BXkid-
Good point about Florida and all the college teams. They’re sort of the California of the East. Lots of transplants; not a lot of loyalty to high schools for fans. Heck, the Florida Marlins can’t even fill up a quarter of their stadium. How’s a high school team supposed to draw fans?
By O1
November 7, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
ALABAMA’S FOOTBALL TEAMS WOULD SKIN GEARGIA’S FOOTBALL TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!
By nhseagle1
November 7, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Anthony-Robby Pruitt came from Florida with his 7 or 8 FLORIDA State Championships to coach the Fitzgerald Purple Hurricanes. He left after 1 year to coach the Warner Robins Demons where he got drubbed by those Northside Eagles you bashed. He whined about the “feeder schools” not being in his favor so he moved back to Fitzgerald after 1 year. To date he still hasn’t won a State Championship in Georgia. Seems as though those Florida coaches can’t cut it here in Georgia.
By Skydawg
November 7, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
My source was an article on Rivals.com last year. It might have actually been a link to another source. But regardless, it was very evident. Actually I believe GA was only behind CA and FL for current players in the NFL as of 2006. The per capita at that point is very easy to figure out. I’ll try and track down the source. I’m not throwing out random numbers or thoughts. Its been stated as fact.
By Lorenzo
November 7, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
HUGE POINT SUPPORTING GEORGIA FOOTBALL ALWAYS MISSED IN THIS DEBATE:
Georgia is # 1 per capita amongst the top ten most populous states for NFL players. Number 1 period. Georgia has nearly 30 % more NFL players per capita than Texas and nearly 50% more than California. Florida is a close second to Georgia.
Not coincidentally Georgia is also # 1 in Division 1 players per capita of the top ten most populous states.
MORE SHOULD BE MADE OF THE WRITERS OF THIS.
By Skydawg
November 7, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
That was simple. Just do a google search for NFL players by state and you’ll find this website.
NFL players by state
By KD
November 7, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
GA BoynTX I recently moved to TX but I have to disagree with you. I haven’t seen the type of passion that I was told I would see in TX HS football. My wife is a HS teacher and I work in college sports so I’m around it a pretty good bit but I haven’t been blown away. As a former HS coach I can tell you that the talent level per capita in GA is much better. There are so many people that live in this state as well as CA and FL that the numbers alone would make them stand out. Having LT and AP doing things in the NFL is great but you’re only talking about two RB’s in the past two years. I would put GA’s best teams against TX’s best teams and I will bet you that GA would win, at least, half the games. GA puts more players in college and the NFL per capita than TX ever has or will. One more point. GA and FL have the right mix of speed and power across the field. So you don’t only see fast RB’s and WR’s but you see fast LB’s and DL’s. That’s what seperates them from TX and CA. Deion Sanders said it best. He said TX has better facilities and greater commitment to HS football but GA and FL have better talent.
By Jeff Haws
November 7, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Good stuff, Skydawg. I was thinking before in terms of D-I talent, but the NFL numbers are good too. On a per capita basis, it looks like Georgia would be at the top, though I haven’t broken down the population data. Kind of backs up my “Athletes are everywhere” statement.
By Skydawg
November 7, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this
KD
Thanks for emphasizing my point. A breakdown based on the link above I posted and 2005 state populations. FL and GA are neck and neck per capita at about 1/107,000. TX is next at 1/133,000 and CA was next at 1/182,000. As of 2005 state populations were GA=9Mil, FL=18Mil, CA=36Mil and TX=23Mil. I rest my case.
By Skydawg
November 7, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Jeff
I’m researching the Div 1 numbers but they are a little harder to come by obviously due to # of programs. But I would imagine, based on NFL players, that the #s would correlate.
By yo
November 7, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
Anthony…lets see, I believe this year when Edgewater of Fl. lost to Lincoln of Tallahasee they were ranked #2 in 6A. Lincoln of Tall. then turned around and lost to Valdosta who has never been ranked in the Top 10 in Ga. this year. Looks to me like “all” of Florida is more like third tier.
By Jeff Haws
November 7, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Skydawg-
Yeah, that was my experience that the D-I numbers were tough to come by, but that’s what I was thinking would be the best measure.
Still, good work on that. Very interesting data. Thanks for gathering it together.
By James
November 7, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
Joe, you are retarted and you must not have cable, because there are high school games that come on tv here… Come on, get away from the “bunny ears” and get cable…. GA HS football Rules! Maybe if you had put on the pads, you would appreciate it too instead of jumping on bandwagons… But GA football has history and put a lot of ppl through college and through the next level…
By AlbanyViking
November 7, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
To nhseagle1 “Seems as though those Florida coaches can’t cut it here in Georgia.” Sorry to burst your bubble but Coach Randy McPherson, Lowndes Vikings, winners of TWO AAAAA Championships in the past 3 years, coached at Madison County High before moving to Valdosta. However many of us that grew up in Valdosta considered Madison to be in Georgia since it is just down the road.
By Dabrodie
November 7, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
Georgia HS teams even have their own rap songs…..that’s great Tift County. :)
By steve
November 7, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
Skydawg,
Your link is for 2001 NFL players. I would bet that the Georgia numbers have increased since then, i.e. David Greene, David Pollack, Sean Jones, Leonard Pope, Richard Seymour, Odell Thurman, Thomas Davis, Jonas Jennings, John Stinchcomb,George Foster, Boss Bailey
By Pville
November 7, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
One word ! PRATTVILLE
By BillSoTX
November 7, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
I have to agree with GeorgiaBorynTx, not KD. I am a native Georgian who lives in South TX. Ga is passionate about the HS pigskin, but I think TX gives it even more significance. Valdosta and Nside WR are ardent, but Odessa Permian and Carroll S’lake would equal it. I do agree with comment about TX drives are lonely (and desolate).
By alphabama
November 7, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
On a per capita basis the state of Mississipi puts more football players in college and pros than any other state. Georgia ranks 5th on a per capita basis behind Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama and Florida.
You Georgia fans need to cut back on the AJC kool-aid and start gathering the facts.
By The Texas Difference
November 7, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this
The top few teams from any of the states referenced would likely play fairly even. The Texas difference is the talent pool is deeper. There are about a dozen Lowndes and a dozen North Cobbs and a dozen NSWRs. Plus, they don’t consolidate schools in Texas as much as they do in Georgia. Every cross road has a school and a football team so more kids are playing. If the student body is not large enough to field an 11 man team, then they play 6 man football (a true speed game). The quality level at the top in all those states is the same, it’s just deeper in Texas because of the number of schools. Win a state championship in Texas and it means something. It’s not watered down like in GA (with only 60-70 AAAAA schools and 32 make the playoffs)or AL (with only 32 AAAAAA schools). EACH level (A, AA,AAA, AAAA, AAAAA) in Texas has over 200 schools and that’s not even counting the private schools. Texas uses districts which are the same as regions in GA and there are 32 of them. Only 3 teams make the playoffs from a district instead of 4 like in GA. The BEST TEXAS DIFFERENCE is during the playoffs they play neutral fields for each round. None of this home field advantage stuff. Small schools get to play at larger high school’s stadiums and the larger schools play at college stadiums (i.e. Big 12 stadiums) and pro fields like Texas Stadium, AlamoDome, Astrodome, etc. My high school had only 300 kids but one year in the playoffs we played at Kyle Field on the Texas A&M campus. Another year we played at Sam Houston State University’s stadium…both were great experiences. Especially since all our football careers ended with the last high school football game of our senior year. You know, that also eliminated seating capacity issues that seem to plague Georgia during the playoffs.
By Florida Resident
November 7, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
Steve:
Are the players you listed all former Georgia HS players?
By atlgator
November 7, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
Based on that link Florida and Georgia are virtually tied for NFL players per capita. Goeirgia was at 9.33 and Florida was at 9.38.
Georgia admittedly does have more passion regarding their HS football than Florida…but it’s not in landslide fashion as many here are stating. I have lived here for 13 years and certainly recognize the talent here as well as the brand of high school football. The Orlando Sentinel has recently stpeed up their high school coverage, but it has been traditionally poor when compared to the AJC. Heck, even the Gainesville Sun & Tallahassee Democrat had better coverage. STILL…many of the posters are simply being homers when saying that Florida is not serious about HS football. There are SEVERAL storied programs in the state…and its a recruiters hotbed for a state that now has 6 Division 1 programs to fill.
By wba
November 7, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this
Texas high schools stadiums can seat over twenty thousand in some towns — and and they still run out of tickets for some games. I haven’t seen that level of commitment for any of the teams here.
By Florida resident
November 7, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
Steve:
By dawgingatorville
November 7, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
to 01,
If Bama is so darn great then why is more than half of AUBURNS starters from Georgia high schools! GO DAWGS!!
By Rick
November 7, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
First in football;
Last in the SAT’s
By GAnativeinFL
November 7, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
I played high school football in Georgia, played college ball in Tennessee, and have now lived in Florida for several years. I therefore have some small amount of perspective on the relative quality of high school football in the South. Based on my observations, I would have to say that, all things considered, Florida high school football ranks just slightly above Georgia’s. The passion of the fans is just as high, but the media in Florida covers the games much more here than in Georgia or Tennessee. Many of the games are shown in the various local and regional TV markets, while you are lucky to see a Georgia game on a regional market Florida playoffs have been being played in Dolphins Stadium in Miami, and this year are going to be played at the new Citrus Bowl in Orlando. Florida also has north-south rivalries in football (along with everything else), as well as a big public/private rivalry, seeing as how almost all private schools are members of the FHSAA. The parity is outstanding, as well. The thing that puts it over the edge in Florida’s favor, I think (and remember this is coming from someone who played high school ball in Georgia, is Florida’s edge in talent. South Georgia’s and metro Atlanta’s talent is comparable to ALL of Florida’s. The rest of Georgia’s is okay’s but not great.
By jvillebil
November 7, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
I grew up in South Ga, went to school in N. Ga (UGA) lived for many years in Middle Ga. I spent a 30 year period going to games all over Georgia. I now have lived in North Fl for 10 years and have followed football everywhere I have lived. Nothing comes close to high school football like the pigskin play in Ga. There isn’t a region in the U.S. that matches up with Valdosta’s region year in and year out. I’m not even looking for a response because when your right, well there’s no debate!!!
By MidGaBoy
November 7, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
man ya’ll ought to see HS football in Alaska!! Nobody has what they got!
By teacher
November 7, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
Hey Rick,
As funny as you may think you are let me tell you what you have no idea about. The only reason GA ranks so low compared to other states in Academics is this.
GA requires of there students to test including special ed studenst and the kids that have no intention of going to college. What most don’t realize and what frustrates us is that the majority of the states out there only require their college prep students to test and report.
It is very frustrating. It makes it worse when people like you try to use it for humor.
Best Wishes Wise guy
By GA fan
November 7, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
To: The Texas Difference
I hope Tx has alot more schools than GA. I mean it is only 4 times the size, that would make sense.
Don’t ya think…. now tell us something that matters
By national#2
November 7, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
PRATTVILLE HIGH SCHOOL FROM ALABAMA, #2 in the nation baby. won something like 56 straight regular season games, 25 straight regardless, whippped big bad hoover from two-a-days last year and wlll again this year if needed. Oh, and they put a whippin’ on one of the best teams in ga at the beginning of this year 39-3 in the champions challenge. i believe the team was north gwinnett or something, but they were one of the best teams in ga last year. GO LIONS….
By SouthGARules
November 7, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
nhseagle1:
In addition to Robby Pruitt, remember Rick Darlington. He came to Valdosta from Apopka High in Florida & got run off because he could not win. However, Valdosta is infamous for lack of patience. They ran a coach off that went 17-3 in 2 years, but no state titles. He had the misfortune of following Wright Bazemore.
By Ohiostatebuckeye
November 7, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
If George HS football is so good why has,nt Georgia and Georgia Tech won a recent national championship! I guess the HS football players do not translate to national championship!
By Michael
November 7, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this
That is one of the stupidest thesis statements I’ve ever read. Georgia football is okay, but hardly the best.
By Competition
November 7, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
hey buckeye it’s called tougher competition… which leads to more parity… something the Big 10 does not know much about.
Bla Bla Bla…. play somebody then talk trash.
By CJ
November 7, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
GA does play very good football. But not on the same level as California, Texas, and Florida.
By B-WILL
November 7, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
What is the big deal about Hs football being on tv in pittsburg. So what, Georgia has the same thing on CSS.
By SE Football Rules
November 7, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this
nhseagle-I agree about Robby Pruit. If you remember he had 4 D1 players on his teams in Union County Florida. Those would be Benny Alexander(UF), Gerrard Warren, that went to UF and ultimately the NFL, Andrew Zow to Alabama, and JR Jenkins who went to UGA. It is hard not to win with those guys.
OhiostateBuckeye:don’t compare GA players with OH players as you have never beaten UGA or any SE Conference team. I believe that was the stat in last years failure of a NC game for the Buckeyes. Ohio is overated again this year. Hope to see you play another SEC team in the NC game so your ego might come into check once and for all. Sorry to all the HS fans here for the truth about OSU. As far as Texas, Florida and Georgia High School, the truth is in how you read the numbers. They are all great High School State and to determine the best they need establish playoff system.
By yo
November 7, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
If Ohio St. had to play in the SEC they would be a doormat and perenial never in the Top 25. Shoot, they even have a hard time beating Michigan. An undefeated Ohio St. team would have at least 2 losses by now. Your worst night mare will be if LSU makes it the rest of the way without another loss. Assuming you do beat Michigan. It hasnt been that long ago that Fl spanked your tails and LSU will too.
By steve
November 7, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
There is one variable left out of all this nonsense. Most other states require student athletes to be able to pronounce and spell the word athalete (sic). As Georgia in a bottom feeder in academia circles it is apparent that the student athlete is used and not developed. That is the difference between Georgia and other states. I get this from living, coaching and playing college sports in other states. I am very disappointed with the academic requirements to play sports. Maybe it should be changed form Georgia football to Neanderthal football. I lived in Valdosta. Not impressed with the educational environment - check out the Georgia DOE website. Why weren’t any schools from Georgia involved in the Herbstreit challenge in Ohio? I have seen the powerhouse teams from Texas play the powerhouse teams from Miami. Who are the powerhouse teams from Georgia playing? What is the UGA grad rate for football players from Georgia? I do remember watching a championship football game in Oklahoma in 1975 played at Owen Field (OU home turf) with 38,000 in attendace. The state population was only around 2 million. How many are in the dome for one championship game? A lot less when I went and watched Lowndes a few years ago. Send some of your “big boys” out to play real football and then talk. Otherwise it is just ethnocentric garbage like the educational system in Georgia.
By Dan
November 7, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
NS eagle I agree on Robby Pruit. He had 4 D1 prospects on his team at Union County in FL. Gerrard Warren, Benny Alexander, JR Jenkins, and Andrew Zow. All played in the SEC. It is hard not to win with those 4 playing together for 3 or 4 years. Ohiostate Buckeye:OSU has never beaten an SEC team…your championships hopes always seem to fall short against the best competition. In fact I believe OSU is 0-8 or 0-9 against the SEC. Therefore, don’t compare your instate talent with GA, FL, LSU, Bama,or anyone else in the Southeast. There is no real way to determine who has the best instate talent at the High School level. Statistics can be manipulated to support almost anyones views…even Ohiostatbuckeyes. The only way is to have all star games between the states. FL, TX, GA, Bama, Cal, and many other states have exceptional talent levels. Any given year one state can be above the others. In GA defense, like FL and TX, many other universities raid the state for talent. GA has among the best talent in the country. Is it the best? Which year is it?
By Ohiostatebuckeye
November 7, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this
Oh so its competition that keeps GA from winning a national championship. I thought it was called choking. If you have the talent and the coaching you should win! Georgia football is highly overrate.
By Can't Come Back
November 7, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this
There’s a little known law in Texas that if a kid goes outside the state to play college ball he can never return to Texas. Hear that QB Stafford?
By To Buck-O the Buck-I
November 7, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this
Talk about a screwed up high school football system, just go to Ohio. Also, Big 10 football is as exciting as watching a ping-pong match. Plus how can you be the Big 10 with 11 teams??? Can you spell S-E-C / F-L-O-R-I-D-A G-A-T-O-R-S?
By To steve
November 7, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this
FYI. Buford went to Ohio and routed an Ohio team.
By A Dion Quote...Ha, Ha.
November 7, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this
I have now heard it all!! A quote from the world beacon of intelligence, the infamous, Deion Sanders. i.e. “Deion Sanders said it best. He said TX has better facilities and greater commitment to HS football…”. Please, give me a break.
By Todd Smith
November 7, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this
Why would Stafford want to go back to Texas for? The women aren’t half as pretty as these peaches are here.
By steve
November 7, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this
Thanks for proving my point. Buford plays Grove City and wins 34-7. Grove City is 2-8 in Ohio. Not so impressive until you go look at the DOE website for info on how academic Buford isn’t.
By A Stafford Response
November 7, 2007 8:34 PM | Link to this
Stafford is on a missionary trip. He’s sharing with the world how to play football….Texas style.
By GAFTBL
November 7, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this
For your information, there was a Georgia team that played in the Kirk Herbsteit Classic this year. It was little ol Buford a “AA” school here in Georgia. If I’m not mistaken they beat the dog poo poo out of an Ohio Team. So don’t run your mouth when you don’t have the facts.
By steve
November 7, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this
To GAFTBL - you should read before you post unless you went to the academic palace called Buford. Fact - the team you beat (your elolquent vernacular) so badly - is 2-8. Wow, such a feather from you running your mouth. You are such an excellent case in point of learning in the Georgia educational system. Of course, if you knew how to read but then you probably played Georgia HS football without a helmet. So impressive with such agressive retorts. Dog poopoo. Sorry but I have to laugh at your intellect. Which high school did you attend? You will probably respond - Georgia.
By War Eagle
November 7, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this
As a former high school coach my opinion is population is key to consistent success. 1. Californis 2. Florida 3. Texas 4. Georgia 5.tie Ohio, Penn.States vary from year to year on overall success. I realized their was no comparison in Ga and Tenn HS football when we played Tenn. teams. I have seen several Florida HS games, majority seem to have size and Jamaican speed.I saw a HS game in Orange Bowl,1995, 42.000 people.Georgia football was very strong in early 80`s and from 2000-present.
By hy my name is steve
November 7, 2007 11:16 PM | Link to this
Well Steve let me tell how educated and well spoken you come off. It takes a very ignorant person with low self esteem to try to belittle people and make fun over the internet. You have such a large epeen. Keep on talking. You sound like such the scholar yourself.
If you sir were so educated then you would be able to hold a debate without having to resort to name calling.
Best of luck my big man.
By pioneer
November 7, 2007 11:23 PM | Link to this
Cincinnati schools have used Paul Brown for several years. The Dome is fine…kind of sterile. When Valdosta can finally beat little Madison County, FL…and when Gwinnett starts playing the Cincy Catholics…and when Northside plays in the Herbstreit challenge, then Georgia can argue for #1. Buford played a nobody Ohio school last year.
By yo
November 7, 2007 11:28 PM | Link to this
Steve…Grove Citys 2-8 record just means they have a better winning percentage against Ohio teams than Georgia teams. Little AA classification Georgia teams at that. Pretty much the same winning percentage Ohio State would have in the SEC. Any one with “any kind” of education knows that.
By yo
November 7, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this
Pioneer…since you have such a pioneering spirit…tell them to come on down and play us. Starting with Lowndes Cty. In fact, just bring the best you have to offer right on down next year. We are waiting. It might be that any school from Ohio would qualify as a “nobody” high school after a few games in Georgia, the SEC of high school football. In case you haven’t heard of the SEC just take a few classes at Ohio State, because Ohio State’s teacher is the SEC. Ohio State should just go ahead and make the SEC its dean of education. Since it is always schooling you. I know you aren’t coming though, because we are too dangerously close to Gator country. One thing I have learned is Buckeyes lose their pioneering spirit when they get too close to Gator country.
By kevin
November 8, 2007 6:56 AM | Link to this
I know that on an annual basis on 4 states have players receive D-1 scholarships. Those states are Texas, California, Florida, and Ohio. Those states all have much larger populations than Georgia. That should help make SkyDawg’s point. The impressive think about that number is that there are only 2 D-1 schools in Georgia. Florida has at least 7. Texas has at least 8. Ohio has at least 5. Scan the rosters of D-1 teams and you will see that most have a top player or 2 from Georgia.
By GAMOJO
November 8, 2007 6:58 AM | Link to this
I have lived in GA for 13 years. I am a Odessa Permian grad and have been looking for a football experience equal to Permian since I have been here. No success so far and I have been from one end of the state to the other. I got close at UGA.
By Jamesdawg
November 8, 2007 7:47 AM | Link to this
Ohiostatebuckeye ,
Your beloved team has never beaten an SEC team in a bowl game 0-8. Now that show how great you team is and how ignorant you are. It’s obvious you would never make it to an SEC East or West championship more or less an NC game. Face the facts; if LSU makes it to the big game you have no chance in hell. KY, UGA, AU, FL, LSU, AL, and maybe USC would all put an L on your clean record. Top of the BIG 10 bottom of the SEC East.
Steve, I don’t know what to say to you. I guess I will pray you’re not as miserable as you appear. Georgia high school players have to meet grade requirements just as they do in every other state. As it was stated earlier, we test all of our students, not just the ones we think have a chance to get into college. Do you think that requirement would have something to do with our testing scores. At least Georgia doesn’t give up on children who don’t fit the ideal mold. I do have to admit if there weren’t people like you the rest of use wouldn’t appear as confident. Sorry but I have to laugh at your intellect or lack there of. It amuses me how passiontly you want to insult Georgia High School football. What was it they did to you that was so bad? Does someone need a hug or some medication?
By Cincinnati
November 8, 2007 7:59 AM | Link to this
Anybody here happen to know which city is the only city to ever have three high school football teams simultaneously ranked in the NATIONAL AP Top 25? I’ll give you a hint, it ain’t in Georgia. I’ll give you another hint — they settle it on the field against the best in the country (and sorry, the “best” didn’t come from Georgia, although you finally merited an invite this year and beat a 2-8 team. Congrats).
When Georgia high school football deserves the respect they so lavishly heap on themselves, maybe you can join Florida, California, and Texas and come up to Ohio and play in the big leagues.
By HowStupid
November 8, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this
WHAT A FREAKING IDIOTIC THREAD! I would bet that most high schools elect to stay in state and play for the universities located in their state
Lets, see last national championship for FL, 2006 (not to mention FSU’s NC in this decade as well as Miami’s). Texas’s last NC, what a few years ago, CA’s (USC) last NC a few years ago. GEORGIA’S last NC, what 25 years ago. Clearly the other 3 states have the horses that GA does not.
By yo
November 8, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this
Cincinnati…thats because you play close to the Big 10 and the competition is weak. See Ohio St. for a perfect example of how easy it is to get ranked and still be average.
By yo
November 8, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry “Im Stupid” but since we are talking about what have you done for me lately then based on your “I’m Stupid” assessment the best football players would come from Louisiana, Ohio, Oregon, and Kansas, etc. since they are currently ranked #1 and #2. Now since we are talking about what have you done for me lately who was it that just beat the Gators in the Gator bowl? Also, are you seriously bragging on Miami and Fl. State football these days? Now arent you feeling kind of….well….”I’m Stupid”?
By tj
November 8, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this
Cincinnati: didn’t Valdosta a team that is not even ranked in the coaches poll in Georgia beat your Beat diggers witch were ranked number one for a while. Did you forget about that and how about this, this same team beat Lincoln (FL), which is a power in Florida did you forget about that next time get your facts straight.
By Kudzudog
November 8, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
One of the best coaches in Florida {Apopka} got a chance to coach Valdosta. He lasted 3 years and came home asking for his old job back. Should be said they were glad to have him back. Georgia high school football takes no back seat.
By Kudzudog
November 8, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
One of the best coaches in Florida {Apopka} got a chance to coach Valdosta. He lasted 3 years and came home asking for his old job back. Should be said they were glad to have him back. Georgia high school football takes no back seat.
By HowStupid
November 8, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this
hey “yo” did you not see the part about National Championship. Has Kansas or Oregon ever won a NC and I’m glad you mention OSU.
2006 is “lately” regarding the last NC idiot. Again, last NC for GA…what 25 years ago. You feel real stupid for not jumping ship decades ago, don’t you?
By tj
November 8, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
Just look at the number of coaches that come from Florida just to have the privilege to coach at a Georgia school almost all the 1-AAAAA coaches are from Florida (Jay Walls Tift County, Randy McPherson Lowndes, Rick Tomberlin Valdosta, Jerry Odom Coffee, Tim Cokely Colquitt)
By ATL
November 8, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this
Here are the facts:
Georgia HS football is outstanding. To say they’re the nation’s best is probably off. Florida, Texas & California produce significantly more NFL & D-1 players than Georgia (per NFL.com & Countdown to Signing Day). While those 3 states have more people than Georgia, Georgia has a much higher population than most people realize. As far as the most NFL & D-1 players per capita, Louisiana, Mississippi & South Carolina are much higher than Georgia, as they turn out high #’s of players, but have very small populations compared to Georgia (per NFL.com) Georgia & Texas have the best HS Coaching in the nation. Some of the best.
By ATL
November 8, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this
Georgia pays their Teachers & HS Football Coaches more than anybody in the Southeast. Only Texas pays their Teachers & HS Football Coaches better.
By tjs
November 8, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this
Ga football the best hmmmm…not quite, on a population basis Wash D.C. has 10 players in the NFL with a 500,000 population…best per capita in the NFL…Florida players are far more sought after than GA players, if your into “smash mouth football” GA is near the top of the class, but note the UGA QB is from Texas as the home products are lacking. To shot everybody up get ESPN to have top GA programs play the Ohio schools on tv. This would give you a window on the real football world…
By Valdosta Grad
November 8, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
Valdosta graduate here. The Beet Diggers were from Utah, not Cincinatti. However, I agree with everyone who says that Georgia football is the best anywhere in the country.
By War Eagle
November 8, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
The Head Coach at my former high school makes $105,000.00 year plus perks. He averages 10 wins a season.Replay scoreboard, 3.5 million field house 8,000 stadium and planning a 12 million dollar extension after football season.
By Valdosta Grad
November 8, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
If you want to get an idea of how much Georgia high school football means just take a look at Link: Valdosta Wildcats Web Page
By midd
November 8, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
What have you been drinking, only one team in the state of Georgia is ranked nationally, Florida rules.
By bohgey
November 8, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
In response to “A Stafford Response” and “Can’t Come Back,” Matthew Stafford was born in Dunwoody, Georgia. His father went to UGA. It is pretty safe to say that he was a Bulldog long before he was a Highland Park Scot. However, we do thank his coaches for molding his talent and showing him how to play good football.
I do think that Texas, Georgia, Florida, and California all have far superior high school football than any other state, each with their own attributes. To be concise and to the point.
By Panther Forever
November 8, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
They don’t show it much on t.v in ga beacuse of two reasons, 1. NORMAL PEOPLE DON’T WATCH HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL, OR ANY HIGH SCHOOL SPORT FOR THAT MATTER, ON T.V. WE TEND TO GET OUT AND (GASP) GO TO THE GAMES.
By NC Fan
November 8, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this
To: Midd
You missed a team. There are 2 GA teams in there. Here have a look!
Team Location Record Pvs. 1. Northwestern Miami, Fla. 9-0 1 2. St. Xavier Cincinnati, Ohio 11-0 2 3. South Panola Batesville, Miss. 10-0 3 4. Katy Katy, Texas 9-0 4 5. Prattville Prattville, Ala. 10-0 6 6. Carroll Southlake, Texas 8-1 7 7. De La Salle Concord, Calif. 8-0 15 8. Central Catholic Pittsburgh, Pa. 10-0 8 9. Cardinal Mooney Youngstown, Ohio 11-0 9 10. Hamilton Chandler, Ariz. 10-0 10 11. Booker T. Washington Miami, Fla. 8-0 11 12. Pahokee Pahokee, Fla. 9-0 12 13. Northside Warner Robins, Ga. 9-0 13 14. Union Tulsa, Okla. 10-0 14 15. Jenks Jenks, Okla. 9-1 16 16. St. Peter’s Prep Jersey City, N.J. 8-0 17 17. Colerain Cincinnati, Ohio 11-0 20 18. Mt. Carmel Chicago, Ill. 11-0 22 19. Maryville Maryville, Tenn. 10-0 19 20. Westfield Chantilly, Va. 10-0 21 21. Don Bosco Prep Ramsay, N.J. 8-0 25 22. Columbine Littleton, Colo. 10-0 23 23. Bastrop Bastrop, La. 10-0 24 24. St. Xavier Louisville, Ky. 10-0 27 25. Byrnes Duncan, S.C. 11-0 29 26. Armwood Seffner, Fla. 10-0 26 27. Centennial Corona, Calif. 9-1 33 28. Eden Prairie Eden Prairie, Minn. 11-0 35 29. Cretin-Derham Hall St. Paul, Minn. 11-0 32 30. Rockhurst Kansas City, Mo. 10-0 36 31. Allen Allen, Texas 9-0 34 32. Permian Odessa, Texas. 9-0 38 33. Birmingham Lake Balboa, Calif. 8-1 46 34. Oscar Smith Chesapeake, Va. 9-0 37 35. Mullen Denver, Colo. 9-0 39 36. Dakota Macomb, Mich. 11-0 40 37. Osceola Kissimmee, Fla. 10-0 NR 38. Lakes Tacoma, Wash. 9-0 41 39. Lake Oswego Lake Oswego, Ore. 8-0 43 40. North Shore Galena Park, Texas 9-0 NR 41. Lakeland Lakeland, Fla. 9-1 18 42. Hoover Hoover, Ala. 8-1* 44 43. North Cobb Kennesaw, Ga. 9-0 45 44. Warrenville South Wheaton, Ill. 11-0 47 45. Notre Dame Sherman Oaks, Calif. 8-1 NR 46. Blue Springs South Blue Springs, Mo. 9-1 31 47. Bettendorf Bettendorf, Iowa 10-0 48 48. Bingham South Jordan, Utah 11-1 49 49. West Monroe West Monroe, La. 9-0 50 50. North Allegheny Wexford, Pa. 10-0 NR
By GAFTBL
November 8, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
I was just letting you know that Georgia did have a School representing them in the Herbstreit classic this year, cause you said that Georgia didn’t have anyone. Maybe you should talk to the higer powers to be, and get them to invite more Georiga High schools to play in the classic.
By yo
November 8, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Hey “How Stupid” and “I’m Stupid” you really should find a better way (even though accurate)to describe yourself with your handles. Obviously you are suffering with self esteem issues and you should take it easier on yourself. Now for the “Well Duh!” regarding your comments. It is going to require you to think out of the box a little bit. Just a little. Come on you can do it! You used “recent” NC to prove your point. Which only unproves your point since most “recent” is now and 2006. Yes I included OSU but I don’t think it was in a positive light, so you are welcome to be included with the likes of Oregon and Kansas. If that helps you with your self esteem. Glad to be of service. I am wondering as to how the 2006 OSU nightmare against Florida stacks up when compared to the other teams in the SEC against Florida in “2006”? You better stay in the Big wimpering 10 if you ever want to keep having chances at NC. It is the only way you ever get them. Beating slow patsy’s with slow patsy Ohio players.
By Call it Like it is
November 8, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
AMEN on Valdosta!!
Lowndes will be the next Valdosta very soon.
By Hornet Nation
November 8, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this
alphabama what is the source of your stats?
By Orange-N-Peach
November 8, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
I’ve played football in So Fla in high school,played college ball in Ga, and now I coach in metro area the diffence in the game is heart ,attitude and comptetiveness. I have worked out with canes from the 80,s and Dogs from the 80,s and all were top rank athletes but when it come down to the nitty gritty its all about the dog in YOU!!!!! Speed Kills
By Georgia Native
November 8, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
California = complex offensive systems, aside from Marist, name a Georgia team that runs a complex running or passing game with actual timing routes and reads… not have Athlete 1 throw it up to Athlete 2. Florida = speaking of athletes, Georgia does produce some great athletes, Florida just churns out more. It’s all that running on sand. Texas = refresh my memory please, where’d Matthew Stafford come from again? How many TV shows and movies are based on Georgia football?
Georgia’s not number 1, but they are up there.
By Ice Cold Texan
November 8, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
OK look folks all that facts and numbers sound good. I too am one of those who lived in Georgia but I am originally from Texas. I also lived in Alabama. There are only a few states who can come close ….. NOTICE I SAID COME CLOSE to Texas and I base that on: A) Love, Enthusiasm and Passion for High School Football. Towns and communities literally shut down for football. Even in the city, your typical Friday night does not start until after the football game (no matter your age) B) 3 - 4 TV. Shows/stations dedicated to High School Football C) When was a block buster hit ever created about a high school football rivalry in Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Penn. or California (And I am not talking ESPN documentaries because we have those too.) D) If you look at the last 10 - 15 National Championships They are mostly from the South (Southeast or South West)… It is a known fact that the majority (50-60%) of Oklahomas team is from Texas, Then there is Texas, LSU (1/3 of the players are from Texas), Same with Kansas, Kansas St, OKlahoma St, Georgia recruits heavily in Texas whether they admit it or not …. WHy? Talent Poool and a great deal of it. E) Stadium - Georgia Dome is Good but Texas Stadium and even Reliant Field are much better F) Top Players in the league…. just to name of few => Some guy named L.T, Adrian Peteson, VY (vince Young), Roy Williams, Selvin Young, Mike Griffin, Cedric Griffin, Nathan Vasher, Cory Redding, Joseph Addai… Think I have made my point
When comes down to it Georgia has Valdosta, Northside Warner Robbins, and 1 more……
Texas has how many powerhouse teams going down from 5A - 3 … I would name them but I don’t have enough space on this website…..
By gacalitransplant
November 8, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this
Being from Southwest GA (Thomasville) and now residing in sunny San Diego, CA, the biggest diiference I have noticed is the size of the stadiums. GA high school stadiums are rather large with seating on three or four sides of the field. In contrast, the several Cali high school stadiums I have seen has seating for two or maybe three sides and the seating capacity is no where near that of the GA stadiums. These Cali schools will even have 3-4 times the student populace than the GA schools. Obviously, these Cali fans have other things to do like play volleyball, surf, or water ski.
By Ed
November 8, 2007 8:16 PM | Link to this
Hey Steve
First of all, you might not want to criticize folks when you fail to use complete sentences. (I italicized for your convenience) Second, currently there are no championship games played in the dome. The semi finals are played there, not the championship games. In addition, in my opinion this is a ridiculous subject to debate. There can be no real answer. All states are not equal in terms of number of players, systems of play, population centers and a host of other factors.
Steve you sound bitter about something. This topic’s responses are based on opinions about football, not education.
November 7, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
There is one variable left out of all this nonsense. Most other states require student athletes to be able to pronounce and spell the word athalete (sic). As Georgia in a bottom feeder in academia circles it is apparent that the student athlete is used and not developed. That is the difference between Georgia and other states. I get this from living, coaching and playing college sports in other states. I am very disappointed with the academic requirements to play sports. Maybe it should be changed form Georgia football to Neanderthal football. I lived in Valdosta. Not impressed with the educational environment - check out the Georgia DOE website. Why weren’t any schools from Georgia involved in the Herbstreit challenge in Ohio? I have seen the powerhouse teams from Texas play the powerhouse teams from Miami. Who are the powerhouse teams from Georgia playing? What is the UGA grad rate for football players from Georgia? I do remember watching a championship football game in Oklahoma in 1975 played at Owen Field (OU home turf) with 38,000 in attendace. The state population was only around 2 million. How many are in the dome for one championship game? A lot less when I went and watched Lowndes a few years ago. Send some of your “big boys” out to play real football and then talk. Otherwise it is just ethnocentric garbage like the educational system in Georgia.
By football chef
November 8, 2007 8:27 PM | Link to this
WAKE UP AT 4:OO AM COOK 15LB. OF PORK FOR 12 HOURS. GET TO GAME BY 5:00 PM HOME OR AWAY AND TAILGATE TIL GAME TIME FOR YOUR NEPHEW’S TEAM. HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IN ANY OTHER STATE.
By yo
November 8, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this
Ohio…the only place they invent something called a Herbstreit Challenge because their boys can’t stray too far from their mommies. Get on a bus and come to S. Ga. wimps! Utah isn’t scared to.
By Chris
November 9, 2007 12:40 AM | Link to this
Steve, Elolquent?? Agressive?? Looks like maybe you should hire an editor before you complete your post. Of course, there is such a thing as the dictionary or spell check that helps, too.
By Peace
November 9, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
CAN WE ALL JUST ENJOY THE GAME OF FOOTBALL TOGETHER. :-)
By ET
November 9, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this
Five states not in your poll also have superb high school football…Alabama, Louisiana, Ohio, Oklahoma and Pennsylvania. Having lived in Alabama, Georgia, and Lousiana, I feel comfortable ranking those three as Georgia #1, Alabama #2, and Louisiana #3, but certainly all very close. Texas super division high school football is probably the only game that actually approaches the intensity of the college game for a given state. Even so, Georgia ranks right up there in my judgment.
By Billy
November 9, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
There are few schools the size of Charlton that can say they have 3 brothers in the NFL and all 3 were D-1. How many schools can say they have won more then Valdosta with over 900 wins? I think Valdosta is the winningest football prgram in the nation, high school, college and pro included. I am from south GA and we get FL news. No Florida school will play Camden County. We are 20-4 against Florida schools. 1-1 against SC schools.
By Reeze
November 9, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
Anthony!……having lived a few years in Fla.I kinda agree with you about Fla football compared to Ga.Track and field ,you guys have it hands down.I feel there are more pure athletes in Fla than Ga, we aren’t far behind though.But i think overall our top 20 teams are better than yours.We could have this discussion all day. Anyway, the real reason i’m here. I read your comment that “If Stockbridge had better coaching the game with NSWR would have been closer or they could have won”.Anthony,I was there that friday evening,and i’m scratching my head,wondering if you were actually there,or maybe you were there but maybe in a parallel universe.Anthony the score was 34-3,we had 17 first downs they had 5.Anthony we had 223 rush yards,they had 70.Anthony we had 154 passing yards ,they had 5.Anthony 377 NSWR total yards,75 for Stockbridge.Anthony our starters were out by mid 3rd qtr.Now,Anthony please explain to me what differently, short of dressing Brookwood or N.Cobb starters in Stockbridge gear,what the Stockbridge coaching staff could have done to change the outcome of the game.
By Orange-N-Peach
November 9, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
Everybody talkn bout who has the best football in the nation, and nobody is lookn at the next state direction. Some of U watched the Texas vs Florida matchup and u all heard what Primetime N Playmaker said about high school football . They both will be Hall of Famers and have been around the game from low to high places . Some states focus on programs that have the vision for production in building communities ,some places only have great athletes without the facilities, that is part of a parity system. Once everbody have a vision to empower and pub all places it will be easier 2 compare!!!!! App St. ,South Fla, and Rutgers got even with alot of schools athletes now the money and pub came after.
By Trokil
November 9, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
the thing about the south is this coaches look for speed. last time i checked the south has speed and quickness. so if ure from up north you shouldn’t be talking
By The Chosen One
November 9, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
Camden County,Lowndes,Valdosta who can beat them?
By Camden County
November 9, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this
when i was playing high school football for camden county. nobody outside of the state of georgia wanted to play us why? because when i was there we were 51-3 in 4 years 65-0 in the region dating back to 2000 and 58-0 playing at home(dating back to 2000) and we were just to fast and quick for everybody else.(also 4 region titles and 1 state championship 4 trips to the GA dome and our highest ranks in the nation was 2#,3#,5#, and (18# only bcus we lost to Lowndes in the Dome).
By NHS Devil in TX
November 10, 2007 12:36 AM | Link to this
Here is my Top 10 reasons (from what I noticed from going to a game tonight) why TX football is better than GA:
As a Norcross alum, I hate to admit that football in TX is bigger and better than GA.
I promise to come watch the Devils win state this year, but I’m going to be really disappointed if it’s at some 8,000 seat stadium with concrete bleachers.
Go Devils!
By Cali Man in ATL
November 10, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
I grew up in Southern California and attended one of the best high schools there. I played football in high school and college. I now live in Georgia. My son plays football in North Georgia. I have had the privilege of seeing schools from North and South Georgia play football. I think Georgia has great football programs. I am a liitle confused on why Georgia thinks Valdosta & Camden County are #1 programs. I’m sorry but I was not impressed when I saw them play. I think South Georgia football reign has come to an end. I have a feeling North Georgia fooball will dominate from now on.