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It’s region rankings time!

The bad thing about ranking teams is that only those handful of schools that are borderline Top 10 get really get steamed if they’re not included. For example, Poll Talk has not heard a single Mill Creek fan complain about not being ranked. It’s just a challenge to some teams bent out of shape.

However, when you’re ranking regions, whole areas of the state can be insulted in one swoop. Folks who pretend they don’t like each other, like Brookwood and Parkview or Lowndes and Warner Robins, become fast friends when defending their region.

So with that, Poll Talk does its annual region rankings.

That doesn’t mean we can’t still talk about Brookwood-Parkview or St. Pius-Marist or Region 6-AAAAA or Chattahoochee. I feel certain we’re going to talk about 6-AAAAA. And 1-AAAAA. Now let me be done before I change my mind.

Talk back to Todd: Holcomb chats live with YOU each Monday, starting at 7 p.m. Leave comments, questions, etc., here and return to talk about the rankings.

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By Warrior Fan

November 5, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Todd,

Looks good to me. I think at this moment that N.Cobb, Harrison one two punch is as nasty as any in the state.

One more to go for N.Cobb to finish the undefeated season.

Go Warriors.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Condolences to the Cougar moms.

By Warrior Fan

November 5, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Regular season that is..

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Mr. Todd, I asid that if we lost I would suck it up and admit to defeat. So before anyone (Hornet Nation in particular) gets on here and starts their blogging I want to be able to say this:

Centennial came out to the field with the determination to win the game and they did. I am not going to knock their hustle, I am not going to say we lost because they had all the trick plays and all this woulda, coulda, shoulda crap. I am not going to blame anyone or try and rationalize and point fingers for our loss but us. Our coach made a bad call and we lost the game because of that, plain and simple. So now we stand 7-2, tied with Roswell which brings me to this question:

If Hooch and Roswell end up tied at the end of the season, how does one determine who wins the sub-region title? I was told that with the record the same, it would come head-to-head and since we beat Roswell that Hooch would secure the title…is that so?

By homet

November 5, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

LOL!!!…Where’s the BIG talk now…the May’s boys whipped Marist on the field during the game and THEN you let them celebrate / disrespect you on YOUR field AFTER the game!!!…

All the while East Paulding was playing what was one of the MOST exciting games of the year against a VERY tough (record not withstanding) Sequoyah team! Down 14 to 10 East Pauldings guys could have quit but instead they showed the heart this team has and moved down the field to score with 8 SECONDS left on the clock!!!

They are and deserve to be the 5AAAA Region Champs!

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

GwinnettFan: I certainly hope you are being sincere….

By David Gordon

November 5, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Why are the Bainbridge Bearcats not ranked in AAAA? Their only two losses are to two of the state’s top ranked teams: Cairo (AAA) and Early County (AA). Other teams that are ranked in AAAA with identical records as Bainbridge (7-2) have losses to inferior teams!

By Jawjadude

November 5, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

hey Todd Turner did not make it out of Region 2-A, Hawkinsville did

By Hornat Nation

November 5, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

To The Original Cougar Mom it is much more complicated than that as it is a system agreed upon by coaches of the sub-region before the season. My understanding is that if Roswell wins by 3 against Centennial on Friday they are in the playoffs and if they win by 5 or more they win the sub-region. How that exactly affects the Hooch I do not know.

By NSHS FAN

November 5, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Todd, I totally agree with your ranking of teams in Region 4: That is, NSWR, Baldwin, Westside and Upson as playing in the toughest AAAA classification. I realize there are individual teams from each region that maybe better than one of the listed team. However, given that NSWR, Baldwin and Westside are in the top ten(10)of AJC ranked teams in AAAA, speaks for itself. In an earlier poll by Georgia Coaches Association, Upson-Lee was included gievn Region 4 four teams BUT I will stick to your AJC poll.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Anyone: does that mean that Hooch won’t go to the play-offs?

Also, just a head’s up to the Hornets, on when you play the Knights, their marching band WILL play while you have possession of the ball….they played the ENTIRE time and the officials didn’t call penalty or nothing….completely rude. Just my thoughts…..

By Jaybird229

November 5, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

To David Gordon: Although I agree about Bainbridge losing to two good teams, the other 7-2 teams have lost to teams just as good. Westside lost to #1 Northside and #4 Baldwin. Mays lost to Tucker and St. Pius X, who is also 7-2. Marist lost to Tucker and Mays. Those teams are very worthy of their rankings. So I know you feel the Bearcats should be ranked, but they don’t play in a very good region, so I think that’s what’s hurting there perception among the voters. But don’t worry, the Cats will have their chance Friday. If they beat TCC, they will have no choice but to rank them.

By Where is the love for Pius Todd?

November 5, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Beat Mays who beat Marist we have the same record and deserve to be ranked over Mays. Were in the playoffs officlay now when everyone doubted us again.

By where is the love for Pius

November 5, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Where is the love for PIUS

By HSballfan

November 5, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Since my team plays AAAA, I won’t comment on the other classfications, but I think your rankings are pretty accurate. You could probably shuffle regions 2,3 and 8, but I don’t think you’d get much of an argument that 4 and 6 appear to be the cream of the crop.

By NG17

November 5, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

TODD, A Norcross loss to North Gwinnett will cause a 3-way tie for the

2 slot in 7AAAAA.What is the

tie breaker for this.I agree with North #1 in region 7 . Norcross did not look sharp vs Collins Hill and North Dee line will be too much for Norcross to handle.

By Leon

November 5, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

I want to no how come Ware County Gators (7-2) are not ranked in the top 10. They are other teams that is ranked with 7-2 records and do not have as hard of a schedule as Ware County. They are just one game from winning AAAA and heading into the playoffs in first place. I think that the Georgia Coaches around Atlanta are alittle bias when it comes to ranking school outside of the Atlanta Metero Area. They wre rank in the top 10 when the season started and they should still be ranked. Go Ware Co. all the way to the State Playoff.

By homet

November 5, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

To Cougar Mom…

Same goes for anyone playing Pebblebrook…they played the ENTIRE game and the officials WOULD NOT call a penalty against them!!!

East Paulding played them at Pebblebrook this year and the officiating crew was VERY intimidated by the Pebblebrook team, coach’s, and home crowd…

It was a horrible way to have to play a game!…HOWEVER in spite of the officials, and the Pebblebrook band East Paulding avenged last years loss and won the game!

By Whose your doggy?

November 5, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Go Hoyas!!

By Yo

November 5, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

I can’t argue with your AAAAA rankings based on how the season has gone up to this point. I do believe 1AAAAA in a head to head match up with any of the 2 regions you have ahead of them (top seed on top seed, 2nd seed on 2nd seed, etc.) would fair quite well when all said and done. I am projecting Valdosta will surprise some people in the playoffs. Their only 2 losses coming to Lowndes and Brookwood against one seriously tough schedule. I am thinking the playoffs will have a way of showing who the best regions are and the playoffs are right around the corner. Definitely can’t argue with top regions in AAAA and AAA. I do believe 1AAAA might be a little better than last though.

By FanMan

November 5, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Sometimes when all a team has going for them is the band they have no choice but to do what they can. Personally, from where I come from the bands played the entire game, non stop, and many games were more fun watching the “battle of the bands” than the games themselves. If the band plays, deal with it. Your band can always do the same.

By superman

November 5, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

I want everyone to keep an out for the Balwin Braves down in Milledgeville. That program is on the rise and its been a talent bed in Georgia for quit sometime don’t sleep on them country boys

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

fanman while I respect your opinion I don’t think they had any respect for the teams. While “watching the battle of the bands” may be the best part of the game for you and where you are from, where I am from it shows lack of respect for our team and their own.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

The Original Cougar Mom, and her sidekicks.

Sincere? Yes. Been there. Saw my son’s tears as they lost the big game.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Tod:

AAAAA - you had Region 7 teams in the top ten all season, and you rank the region below Region 1? As you recall, a team from Region 8 smashed Valdosta. How can you rank an entire region based on only one team? Give us something that makes sense, please.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

FanMan and Couger Mom,

The Officials can throw the flag if the band is playing while the other team has the ball. It happened in the Ga Dome a few years ago.

I think it was a 10-yard penalty.

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Hey NG 17. Have you already forgotten about last year’s game. Almost the identical situation. North Gwinnett was undefeated, coming off of a bye week, playing Norcross at home and Norcross only beat Collins Hill by two pts. Norcross won 30-10. This year NG is undefeated coming off a bye and Norcross did not play very well against Collins Hill. However this time we are playing in the Devil’s den.

I would not count Norcross out let. We typically play our best g

By HSballfan

November 5, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

It’s got to be tough to evaluate Ware County since 3AAAA appears to have more parity this season than usual. I don’t know if Ware County and Statesboro are not as tough, or if everyone else down there just got better. We’ll know more this weekend after Ware and Statesboro go helmet to helmet.

It’s also hard to size up 6AAAA, since Dekalb County makes everyone play every game inside the region, to save on travel expenses I suppose. Tucker ran St. Pius and Marist off the field but struggled against Mays and Washington. With 12 teams, I’d much prefer a sub-region schedule with at least two games outside region 6. Maybe realignment next year will change things.

By GetOverIt

November 5, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Being a former player myself I can tell you that when your out there in the heat of the battle. You don’t even hear the band playing.

This sounds like a lame excuse to me. Yes it may be tacky but it has no outcome to whats going on down on the field.

Best of luck to all.

By NC FAN

November 5, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

i think region 1 is better than 6. Lowndes could beat Walton or roswell easily. Valdosta probably could as well. there is always good football down there. we will see how region 6 does in the playoffs but i see a region 5 state championship. NORTH COBB VS. HARRISON!!

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Hey NG17, you appear to have a very short memory. Last year NG was undefeated, coming off of a bye week, rated higher in the polls and in the previous game Norcross barely beat Collins Hill by 2 pts. However we played our best game against NG and beat them soundly 30-10 at NG. This year NG is rated higher in the polls, NG is coming off of a bye week and Norcross barely beat Collins Hill again. But this year the game is in the devil’s den. The last time we played a good team at home with a big defensive line was Grayson and we beat them 24-3.

It should be a good game and I expect both teams to leave everything that they bring on the field. Remember last year Norcross filled up the visitors stands at NG. I hope that NG fans will do the same this year because we want everybody to see this game.

If there happens to be a three way tie the third seed position will be drawn for and the second and fourth will be determined by their head to head record.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

gwinnettfan, thanks so much for being sincere, honestly. there is so much bitterness on the blog you can’t determine who is being sincere or not.

yes, i saw the tears and the looks of sadness on the faces of the boys Friday night as they were walking off the field. such a sad moment. like i said earlier i am not going to blame anyone for the loss but the coach. while i think coach crowder is an awesome coach and he has the respect of every one of his players he made a bad call Friday not which led up to the loss.

oh and thanks for the head’s up on the penalty flag for the band.

By Some Good Teams Gone Early

November 5, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Post it on the wall. Here is how the AAAAA playoffs will likely go. Theory and practice are not always in agreement so let’s see what happens on the field

1 – Lowndes, Valdosta. two good teams that get very weak round one opponents. mlk get the home field advantage in round two with valdosta and knock them out. if lowndes gets the home-field advantage in round 3 against north cobb, they go on to the championship game and could win it if they play at home.

2 – stephenson loses to lowndes in round 2. mlk defeats valdosta in round 2 but then loses, at home, to harrison in round 3.

3 – Camden. i like camden if for nothing else they are a well coached team and can keep their game at a high level while playing 8-9 really weak teams during the season. if camden plays like they did in the dome earlier this year they could be back in the dome. if not they lose to norcross (or grayson) in round 3.

4 - neuman defeats coffee in round 2 then loses to brookwood in round 3. east loses to camden in round 2. others one and out.

5 – North Cobb, Harrison. nc has no big game experience but will make it to round 3 against lowndes; only chance they have to win this one is play this round at home; if not, they’re gone. harrison will defeat walton in round 2 and mlk in round 3 but lose to brookwood in the dome.

6 – walton is gone after losing to harrison in round 2. Chat loses to north cobb in round 2 and roswell loses first round to grayson. sprayberry gets lost in atlanta traffic and misses first round game. by the way….who knows if these are the four seeds from this region….ghsa please dump this sub region configuration stuff.

7 – North Gwinnett, Norcross. two good (not great) teams. neither has mproved through the season. region has four really weak teams so their level of competion is not great. number two seed will likely have to go to brookwood for round 2. both could be gone after two rounds; three for certain. 8 – Brookwood, Grayson. could be the sleepers this year. grayson defense will rise to the occasion but not certain about their offense. if grayson gets by norcross in round two they beat camden the following week before losing to lowndes in the dome. brookwood could have big rematch in round 2 with north gwinnett. if brookwood wins it, they could run the table if home field advantage works for them

By Sprayberry a 4 Seed?

November 5, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

I read in one of the blogs that we (Sprayberry) will be the number 4 seed from Region 6. Is this a mathematical given already? We will have similar sub region record as maybe Roswell, Chattahoochee or Centin when the season is over. Help me with this one please.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

I agree with the AAA region rankings, even though regions 6&7 could be a tossup on which is 3 or 4.

By Nuff Saidm

November 5, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

To NC Fan

If Region 1 is better than Region 6, then they’re far better than Region 5,I wouldn’t predict a all Cobb County final since a Cobb team hasn’t won the Title in decades.It takes a good defense,good offense and a lot of luck to get to the finals. May the best team win, anyone of several teams could win in 5AAAAA this year, the play-offs should be fun!!!!

By mikefresh

November 5, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

omg todd you ranked franklin county ahead of oconee county in you region rankings thats weak.

By NC Alumn

November 5, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

North Cobb hasn’t made it out of the 1st round of the playoffs in the history of their school, with the exception of 1979 and I think 1957. After week 10, rankings go out the window, so it doesn’t really matter, does it? That’s the great thing about deciding things on the field (a concept that college football would do well to embrace). The reality is that, this year, North Cobb has some decent-sized linemen to compliment a good core of skill players. That serves them well in Cobb County, where NO ONE has any decent-sized linemen. But, when they get into the playoffs and line up against the Gwinnett and South Georgia teams, they’re going to be in for a rude awakening. EVERYBODY’S BIG and EVERYBODY’S FAST. It’s a whole different class of ball than they’re used to playing. North Cobb should be happy to make it to the 2nd or 3rd round, but there’s no way that they’ll end up being the state champs.

By BwoodFan

November 5, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

My God, how Brookwood wishes we could get North Gwinnett in the second round. You have no idea how ready Brookwood is for that game. NO WAY in hell do they win again.

By Dark Knight

November 5, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Please don’t put the cart before the horse…..(Cougar Mom) While I clearly understand your still trying to search for the answers (blame) as to why Hootch lost, I seriously doubt the playing of the bands did little to disrupt the play.They simply upset you. I’d stay with your original statement that your coach made a very poor decision, as it cost you the game. With all that being said, I understand that all three Region 6-AAAAAB teams all have ONE MORE GAME TO PLAY. In fact, Roswell must beat Centennial, Centennial must beat Roswell and Hootch must beat Milton. So..let’s let the boys play and it will sort itself out….regardless if the bands play or not.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

dark knight..i was just simply stating a fact that the band was disrespectful, plain and simple. i never once blamed the band on Hooch’s loss….check your facts. i have not once veered from my original post this morning….i leave the finger pointing and the blaming to the others….i said i would suck it up and admit defeat…to which i have done….

in the end, yes there is one more game to play and i still don’t doubt my boys….

GO COUGARS!!!!

By JC597

November 5, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

8-AAA is definitely better than its ranking. The fact Stephens and Hart are in 8-AAA should propel the region into the top 5 without saying.

By Observer

November 5, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

I’ve got to agree with “Where’s the Love” - It’s difficult to look at Mays being ranked with the same record as an unranked St. Pius when Pius beat them straight up. St. Pius is currently in second place in the second ranked region in AAAA. Isn’t that worthy of being ranked? Apparently not.

By Go Hornets

November 5, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Cougar Mom - To answer your original question about how the tiebreaker works as I understand it:

It’s based on total margin of victory BETWEEN THE TIED TEAMS. IF Roswell beats Centennial and Chattahoochee beats Milton, then Roswell, Chattahoochee and Centennial will have a round robin tie. Now comes the complex part. Since Chattahoochee beat Roswell by 3, Chattahoochee has 3 margin of victory points and Roswell has -3 points. And since Centennial beat Chattahoochee by 1 point, that gives Centennial 1 point and Hooch -1, for a Hooch total of 2 (3 in the Roswell game and -1 in the Centennial game). Hooch can’t get any more points because Milton won’t be in the tiebreaker (assuming Hooch wins). So going into Friday’s games it’s Chattahoochee 2, Centennial 1, and Roswell -3 in total margin of victory between tied teams. So if Roswell wins, but by 2 or less, Then Centennial gets the 3 seed (since they would still have more margin of victory points than Roswell), and Hooch gets the 2 seed (since they would have more margin of victory points than either of the other two). If Centennial wins, they will get the 2 seed, and Hooch will get the 3 seed. If Roswell wins by 3 or 4, they get the 3 seed, and Hooch gets the 2 seed. And FINALLY, if Roswell wins be 5 or more they get the 2 seed and Hooch gets the 3 seed. CONFUSED YET? Let’s not even get into the possibilities if Milton wins and Roswell loses.

By EPDAD

November 5, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

WAY TO GO ”BEAST FROM THE EAST”

By FanMan

November 5, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Cougar Mom, the bands playing away should all be part of the game and good teams overcome it. Why should a high school game be any different than any other game or do you feel the crowds should not make noise cheering on their defense either which leads to my next comment which is this: the offense can use a silent snap count to snap the ball AND a loud band can also hinder the defense’s ability to call out their assignment changes as the offense shifts or goes in motion. It goes both ways and like someone else said earlier, the players do not even hear the bands. My son plays for a top team and after the game he could not tell you what the bands played, when they played it or what the announcers say. he is focused on what he is doing.

By will

November 5, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

maybe the third round hairrison is overrated thats a joke sry dude.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

JC597,

You ahve got to be kidding me! as of this morning Hart Co. wasn’t even ranked in the top 10. Furthermore, the only two decent teams in 8AAA is Stephens Co and Hart Co. Franklin Co, Oconee Co. Monroe would never make the playoffs in any other region. To say that they should be ramked ahead of regions like 3,4,5,or 6 is nuts. You take the top 2 teams out of each region and see hoe 8AAA measures up without SC and HC, not very well I’m afraid.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

go hornets thanks for trying but i am very, very confused. i am a first time football mom so i will have to wait until friday to find out. thanks again.

fanman i understand your point and i respect it. we (the parents) cheer our team on defense and yes sometimes offense, however, when the ball is in play, we let the team play.

By MLK Band Mom

November 5, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

The ‘MLK Lions’ ALL THE WAY!

By ???

November 5, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Will, I am having a hard time following your comment. What is suppose to happen by the 3rd round and are you saying harrison is overated?

By Confused

November 5, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

All I know is the GHSA need to get things straight with the region alignments. I was trying to fill out a mock playoff bracket and region 6AAAAA really makes that tough. Although if the playoffs were to start tonight some 1st round games that I would like to see. And I only did this for AAAAA teams so sorry everyone else.

Norcross Vs. Marietta Grayson vs. Hooch N.Cobb vs. P’tree Ridge

Rd 2 potential high light match-ups would be.

Lowndes vs Stephenson Walton vs Harrison ML King vs Valdosta Brookwood vs Norcross

Rd 3

N.Cobb vs Lowndes Harrison vs Valdosta Brookwood vs E. Coweta Camden Co. vs N.Gwinette

Thats all I have folks, But those would all be great games in my opinion

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

The Original Cougar Mom: I said that if we lost I would suck it up and admit to defeat.

Only those who predicted Centennial to win that game has a right to crow.

Why are the Bainbridge Bearcats not ranked in AAAA? Their only two losses are to two of the state’s top ranked teams: Cairo (AAA) and Early County (AA). Other teams that are ranked in AAAA with identical records as Bainbridge (7-2) have losses to inferior teams!

I probably have overlooked Bainbridge, although I’m not ready to say the B-Cats should be ranked.

However, I don’t agree that the two teams that have beaten Bainbridge are better than the teams that have beaten the twice-beaten teams that are ranked.

Here are the other two-loss teams that are ranked: Mays (lost to SPX & Tucker), Marist (lost to Mays, Tucker), Westside (Northside, Baldwin). I’d favor those pairs of teams over Cairo & Early County.

But thanks for pointing out Bainbridge’s good season because I do admit I hadn’t paid great attention to it.

hey Todd Turner did not make it out of Region 2-A, Hawkinsville did

and

you ranked franklin county ahead of oconee county in you region rankings thats weak.

Thanks for those corrections, although I hope everyone keeps in mind that I didn’t double-check all those teams in every region. My main point was to rank the regions, not the teams in the regions. But I’m an Oconee County grad, so let’s move the Warriors up in the standings!

totally agree with your ranking of teams in Region 4: That is, NSWR, Baldwin, Westside and Upson as playing in the toughest AAAA classification.

And Griffin also is in that region. So that wasn’t a tough call.

St. Pius beat Mays who beat Marist. we have the same record and deserve to be ranked over Mays. We’re in the playoffs officlay now when everyone doubted us again.

and

It’s difficult to look at Mays being ranked with the same record as an unranked St. Pius when Pius beat them straight up. St. Pius is currently in second place in the second ranked region in AAAA. Isn’t that worthy of being ranked?

Yes, but Mays has played the toughest schedule of the three (Mays, SPX, Marist) because SPX & Marist haven’t played each other. Also, Mays has been competitive in each game, whereas SPX & Marist were not competitive vs. Tucker. Further, Mays beat Cedar Grove, which beat SPX, so head-to-head doesn’t prove which is the better team, just which played better on a given night. It’s the body of work that counts.

As for Marist vs. SPX, there’s no real difference, but the tiebreaker for me was the fact that SPX has won two games it easily could’ve lost (Miller Grove, Washington), while Marist has won only one game like that (Washington). In other words, SPX is a little closer to 6-3 than Marist.

I’m not concerned about how 6-AAAA chooses to break ties in the standings. I have a different criteria.

But the fact that I’m ranking three 6-AAAAA teams and have a fourth one at No. 11 is the best indication of the respect that I have for SPX.

TODD, A Norcross loss to North Gwinnett will cause a 3-way tie for the 2 slot in 7AAAAA. What is the tie breaker for this. I agree with North #1 in region 7 . Norcross did not look sharp vs Collins Hill and North Dee line will be too much for Norcross to handle.

Not sure, but I had heard that a three-way tie will be broken by a drawing. On Thursday, our Chip Saye will do the research on all the region tiebreakers and publish a playoff report. Stay tuned.

want to know how come Ware County Gators (7-2) are not ranked in the top 10. They are other teams that is ranked with 7-2 records and do not have as hard of a schedule as Ware County. … They were ranked in the top 10 when the season started and they should still be ranked.

Good argument, Leon. It’s really impossible sorting out those 7-2 teams. I would not argue w/ anybody who puts Ware in the Top 10, especially when one of Ware’s losses is to a ranked AAAAA team, but the reason I don’t have Ware ranked is a strength-of-region issue that goes back to last season.

I think Regions 4 & 6 are significantly stronger than the rest in AAAA, and therefore they have three teams apiece ranked. Region 3 performed poorly in the post-season last season (1-4), and those teams haven’t played enough non-region games to prove itself this season.

But if I were voting right now, I’d have to say Ware is the team most likely in AAAA to embarrass me by making a great run in the playoffs as an unranked team.

you had Region 7 teams in the top ten all season, and you rank the region below Region 1? As you recall, a team from Region 8 smashed Valdosta. How can you rank an entire region based on only one team? Give us something that makes sense, please.

I feel pretty solid about 5-AAAAA at #1, and Regions 2-3-4 at the bottom, but those other four – 1, 6, 7, 8 – are pretty hard to separate.

But as for R7, once P’tree Ridge lost to Mill Creek (a team that lost to Northview), I began to question how tough this region is. Also, I think R1 goes five deep w/ Warner Robins at #5 (although that’s debatable at times). Not sure I’d call Collins Hill a good team. Really, those two regions are pretty much even, IMO. But if I had an average team, I think I’d take my chances in R7 to make the playoffs over R1.

It’s got to be tough to evaluate Ware County since 3AAAA appears to have more parity this season than usual. … It’s also hard to size up 6AAAA, since Dekalb County makes everyone play every game inside the region.

Good points. Those regions – 3 & 6 – can’t be judged until after the playoffs.

i think region 1 is better than 6. Lowndes could beat Walton or roswell easily. Valdosta probably could as well. there is always good football down there. we will see how region 6 does in the playoffs.

I thought I’d get more second-guessing of having 6-AAAAA at #2. …

Consider, though, that Roswell (a team fighting for its life to make the state playoffs) beat R8 champ Brookwood, and Brookwood crushed Valdosta. Also, 1-AAAAA has only 4-5 good teams. R6 has probably 6-7. By ‘good,’ I don’t mean real good, but teams that can beat you on a given night. The average team in R1 is better, but there’s only 7 teams, so I think it would be easier to make the playoffs out of R1 this season than R6 in AAAAA.

read in one of the blogs that we (Sprayberry) will be the number 4 seed from Region 6. Is this a mathematical given already? We will have similar sub region record as maybe Roswell, Chattahoochee or Centin when the season is over. Help me with this one please.

If Sprayberry finishes in second place in the “Cobb subregion’’ of 6-AAAAA, then Sprayberry is in the state playoffs regardless of what Roswell, Hooch or Centennial do. Plus, Sprayberry whooped Centennial, no? So Sprayberry should go to the dance w/ no guilt attached. Two teams from each subregion quality for state.

8-AAA is definitely better than its ranking. The fact Stephens and Hart are in 8-AAA should propel the region into the top 5 without saying.

But Stephens and Hart are just two teams, and Hart isn’t even ranked. Stephens is a state contender, and Hart can do some damage, but both would’ve been better off playing more tough teams to get them ready.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Alright “TODD HOLCOMB”,This time I feel certain that you do not believe what you have just written. “Region 1AAA is a stronger region than Region 2AAA.”(I am paraphrasing). TODD, I ask you, “In this entire millenium, has any 1AAA team won the state title? How about the semi’s”? You name Cairo, Worth, Monroe, and Westover as the “Big 4”. Maybe in their VERY weak region. I would be surprised if any one of these teams could defeat Harris County or Troup from 2AAA, let alone Carver, Shaw, and LaGrange. TODD, you are going to eat crow on this one. Just do it like a man, when the time comes. Nobody from 1AAA makes it to the semi’s. I will eat crow should that happen. Oh…Yes, I remember Cairo making it to the dome in 2000, and losing to Shaw when both teams were playing in AAAA. Aside from that, what has 1AAA done? Carver wins their play-off bracket with zero competition. They will play either Shaw, North Hall, or LaGrange in the final. (No disrespect to Carrollton nor to Stephens County. This just looks like the year for Carver-Columbus). As for 1AAA, they will be nowhere in the picture.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Slalom: I have 2-AAA ranked No. 1. So are you saying 1-AAA should be lower?

By cj

November 5, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Todd if I am reading it correctly you do have region 2aaa as the toughest region and region 1-aaa as #2 help me sort this out.

By Vikings Roll

November 5, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Todd Valdosta is a better team than what they showed against Brookwood we all know that. I think we have to flip your region rankings.

I think Lowndes will only have 1 real hurdle on it’s way the championship game. That being North Cobb who might not make it out of the 1st round. That might be the most overrated #1 team I have every seen. If we do meet them in the play-off I see us winning by 20.

I see no competition coming from any team in the semi’s I don’t think N.G bulldogs get past Camden Co.

I see a nice rematch after Harrison blows the doors off of Brookwood. And then the Vikings get there sweet revenge against an over rated Hoyas team.

Lowndes Rolls to the State Title.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

slalom 1, Todd just ranked region 2 the hardest region in AAA, followed by regions 1,7,6,5,4,3,8. I,personally with THOSE rankings. But, if he changed his mind, then you are right, no way region 1 is tougher than region 2. Region 7 may actually be harder than region 1.

By John

November 5, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

I generally agree with your region rankings. However, I would put 7-AAAA above 8-AAAA. The top four teams would rank above everybody except Habersham Central in 8-AAAA, although the bottom of 7-AAAA is awful.

7-AA probably is the worst AA region. There is Calhoun and nobody else.

By Reg 7

November 5, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans.

I will say I personally would for SURE put region 7 over region 1. The only chance for a team outside of region 2 going the distance would be a region 7 team end of story.

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

Todd a prominent Gwinnett County coach gave me the following for a tie breaker in region #7.

Option 5 is what we will do if all 3 of us are tied !! We will draw for the #3 spot and then it goes back to head to head for the #2 and #4 spots.

Region By Laws Football tie breaker Section 1: Football 1. Head to head between tied teams. Head to head is defined as percentage against tied teams 2. If tie cannot be broken, then record against teams above tie starting with the highest team. At any point tie is broken, revert back to head to head 3. If tie cannot be broken, mini games involving team tied, or if they select to flip coin (option) 4. Games outside region will not count in tie breaking process 5. If there are sufficient playoff positions,and tie cannot be broken with options 1 and 2, spots will be drawn. Ex. Teams will draw for middle spot,then had to head will determine remaining spots.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

slalom, How do you see the AAA playoffs shaping up? Who do you think will be in the dome this year? My picks are: Carver, Columbus vs. Stephens Co North Hall vs. Shaw.

By will

November 5, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

walton is the state champ this year

By mikefresh

November 5, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

thanks todd for moving oconee up i mean my god they all ready qualifed for the state playoffs as the 3 seed even though they wont make it out of the frist round. franklin county still has to win there final game to get in

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

Reg7,

Do you have an allegiance to a team in 7AAA? If so, let me know who.

By tholcomb8136

November 5, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

I generally agree with your region rankings. However, I would put 7-AAAA above 8-AAAA. The top four teams would rank above everybody except Habersham Central in 8-AAAA, although the bottom of 7-AAAA is awful.

I do like Rome at #3 in a region, so perhaps so, but the underbelly of 7-AAAA is softer than a kitten, as you said.

By roswell alien

November 5, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

The first Roswell person to try to decipher the 3-way tiebreaker was off by a point on the Chattahoochee-Centennial game.

Here are the scenarios for a 3-way tie, which results if Roswell beats Centennial and Chattahoochee beats Milton.

Roswell wins by 1 point: Centennial wins the sub-region and is seeded 2nd; Chattahoochee is No. 2 in the sub-region and third seed in playoffs.

Roswell wins by 2 points: Chattahoochee 1st, Centennial 2nd; Sprayberry gets 3 seed only if Centennial is 2nd. Centennial would be 4th seed.

Roswell wins by 3 or 4 points: Chattahoochee 1st, Roswell 2nd.

Roswell wins by 5 or more points: Roswell 1st, Chattahoochee 2nd.

Walton is the No. 1 seed regardless; the No. 2 seed from the B sub-region is the No. 3 playoff seed unless it’s Centennial.

There is a very slim possibility of a 3-way tie for second if Centennial beats Roswell and Milton beats Chattahoochee. In that event, Roswell gets 2nd unless Milton beats Chattahoochee by 88 points. Not very likely.

Hope this clears things up, Cougar Mom. No matter what happens in the Roswell-Centennial game, the Cougars make the playoffs unless they lose to Milton. If that happens, they’re out and deserve to be.

To NC fan who believes Region 1 is better than Region 6. Roswell played 2 teams from Region 1 last year in the playoffs, both at neutral sites, and absolutely beat the (choose your favorite expletive) out of both of them. One of the 2 simply quit in the 2nd half, the other was totally outplayed.

Roswell has beaten Brookwood the last 2 times the teams played. Chattahoochee beat Camden County at Camden and Roswell at Roswell. Walton lost by 1 whole point against North Gwinnett and beat Roswell.

The North Fulton/East Cobb AAAAA region used to be pretty lame. Not any more. If Roswell is on its game, I don’t think any team is going to be very thrilled about facing them in the playoffs. The Hornets are far from unbeatable, but someone is going to have to play pretty darn well to beat them.

By Reeze

November 5, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

Todd,I think folks are confused with your rankings.I think a few assume the numbers next to the teams are your rankings ,instead of the numbered region

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

OK, got my user name straightend out …

walton is the state champ this year.

Will moves back into the Top 10 rankings of Poll Talk posters for his stubborn support of the Ray-duz.

How do you see the AAA playoffs shaping up? Who do you think will be in the dome this year? My picks are: Carver, Columbus vs. Stephens Co North Hall vs. Shaw.

We need to put Slalom! on the payroll.

Region 7 may actually be harder than region 1.

Could be right. Just got to figure that if the top teams were really top notch, at least one would play North Hall a tougher game.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Reg 7,

One warning: don’t expect any respect for 7AAA from anyone but slalom. Most of these people think that NE Ga doen’t knowwhat football is. What they don’t realize is that there really isn’t much else to do up here. On Friday nights, nothing else matters up here.

By Reg 7

November 5, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

NTH lets just say that 41-14 thumping hurt… ;-)

By steven maxwell

November 5, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

todd your ranking’s are very weak and some of the people bloging this week is crazy talking about region 8AAA is weak.Ya’ll must be drunk or on something today. 8AAA is the second hardest region to play in 2AAA is the hardest then i would say that 6AAA would be next and 4AAA would follow them.The weak regions are the rest with 7AAA being the weakest bye the way todd what do you think about those indians and poole.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

I think folks are confused with your rankings.I think a few assume the numbers next to the teams are your rankings ,instead of the numbered region

Oh, OK. I think you’ve solved that mystery. Let’s not tell Slalom because he’s more fun when he’s riled.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Reg 7,

People just don’t realize that North Hall is a machine. They seem to think that Flowery Branch is a patsy. There are going to be a lot of teams that are surprised when they get a look at Jaybo Shaw. Maybe after the first two rounds of the playoffs, people will realize what an accomplishment it was for NH to shut Jaybo and FB down. If people would look at FB record and stats, they would see that nobody else could do it all season. Oh yeah, congrats on breaking back into the top 10 again this week, it should have happened sooner.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

One warning: don’t expect any respect for 7AAA from anyone but slalom.

I think I respect 7-AAA more than most. I had North Hall ranked No. 6 in preseason and drew skepticism. (I also had Hart No. 1, but forget that a minute.) I’d probably have 7-AAA as the No. 2 region if Gainesville hadn’t been a mild disappointment.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Well Todd,

While you are around who do you see going to the Dome this year in AAA?

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

To: “TODD HOLCOMB”, I can live with,”Check is in the mail.” Maybe I read the rankings wrong. It looked to me that you had placed Region 1AAA as AAA’s Top region. I shall read again, and this time, use my reading glasses.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

While you are around who do you see going to the Dome this year in AAA?

I haven’t looked at the draws, but the four that I like best are Carver, North Hall, Cairo, Stephens. Then a drop to Shaw, LaGrange, Carrollton. I don’t think anyone else can win it.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

To: TODD HOLCOMB, My bad. Got it now, and you got it right. I wasted all of my ranting over nothing. Is my check still in the mail?

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

While you are around who do you see going to the Dome this year in AAA?

I thought I answered this, so my apologies if it shows up twice. …

I like Carver, North Hall, Stephens and Cairo, but haven’t looked at the draw to know if these four can get there. Then I like Carrollton, Shaw, LaGrange. I don’t think anybody else can win it.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

steven maxwell,

I was wondering when you were going to start whining about 8AAA not getting any respect. Look, I agree that Stephens Co and Hart Co are very good teams, but what do you have after that? Nothing, nada, zilch, zippo. After your Big 2, you have Franklin, Oconee, Apalachee, Monroe Area, and Elbert. NONE of these teams would make the playoffs in any other region. And Todd Holcomb, I wasn’t talking about you whaen I said that nobody gives 7AAA any respect (even though I think that you waited a little too long to get Flowery Branch back into the Top 10).

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Todd,

If LG doesn;t make ti to the Dome this year, it will only be because they wound up in the same bracket as NH. I think that Shaw is better than Cairo, and Flowery Branch could give Stephens Co a tough game. Carver may open the playoffs with Peach Co, and nobody knows how good Henry Co is.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

I wasted all of my ranting over nothing. Is my check still in the mail?

Your ranting is why the check is in the mail. Now go find something else to be miffed about! And do you think Troup would have a shot at Cairo? I’m hoping that comment will set off the Syrup people.

By T.J.

November 5, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Lowndes is the only program I see that has a shot vs. Gwinnett teams. I keep seeing the what ifs or buts Let me, a Grayson bandwagon driver, spell it all out for you. Brookwood has improved every game they play. And in their house, you will probably lose, reference Grayson defeat. They are a complete and balanced team. As is North Gwinnett. Both have good coaching and are balanced. Peachtree Ridge and Roswell have not improved and have been overated. Norcross and Grayson are unbalanced. Norcross has high octane offense and Grayson has swarming defense. But both are too weak on the other side of the ball to go all the way. N. Gwinnett or Broowood vs. Lowndes for the championship? Other option I think is a all Gwinnett championship game.

Todd, you have Brookwood, then Grayson, Parkview, and last you have South Gwinnett in region 8-AAAAA. I think South has pretty much clinched playoff birth due to the fact they beat Parkview. Parkview plays Brookwood last. South has Meadowcreak, which I think they can win against. Think Parkview is done!!!! Grayson will make it to 2nd round again. Not sure if they have the offense to go further. Good luck all Gwinnett—-don’t make me look bad……..

By Marist Fan

November 5, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

To Homet: Mays whipped Marist on the field? You must not have seen the game. Marist moved the ball at will and after seeing the game film, our QB clearly scored on the 3rd down play before their 4th down stop. But hey, they won. Regarding your comment about them disrespecting us on our field, they only disrespected themselves by acting like classless fools. The Marist coaches held back the Marist players from rushing them, as they should. Taunting our fans and stomping our logo takes a lot of guts, I guess? When we beat them by three TDs last year on their field, we congratulated them and went our way. Can you imagine if Marist would have done the same thing? There would have been a race riot and it would have made the front page of the AJC but that’s the hypocritical world we live in. Last, for their coach to say in the AJC article that he didn’t know what happened is an outright LIE! He’s a thug just like their team. And you’re a fool, Homet.

By Roger

November 5, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

Todd I can’t believe that you and everyone else thinks that 7-AAA is so tough; what are you basing this on? they play no one outside of there own region, so how are you saying that they are so good?. At least Stephens County has played ranked teams from other regions and classifications ( IE: Hab Central and Dublin) please explain your reason for ranking them so high. Stephens County rocked White County who is by the way from region 7-AAA in a preseason match-up.

By FootBall FAN

November 5, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Todd,

Where exactly are the finals held this year? I thought I read the finals would be at the respective teams home field and the QTRS and Semis would be at the Dome. Is this correct?

Thanks

By HoochDad

November 5, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

This blog is way too much fun - I’m sorry I found it so late in the season.

I wish the GHSA would post the region tiebreak rules online so everyone could see them. The suggested rules mean nothing if each region can just do what they want, and the sub-regions make it that much worse. Hopefully they’ll do away with the stupid sub-regions with the re-alignment next year.

As far as the band playing - as long as the GHSA bylaws state (which they do) that the band should’t play during live ball situations, then they shouldn’t play. Would it have made a difference in the score in the Hooch-Centennial game? No - but Centennial’s coach and band director I’m sure are both aware of the rules. They were asked to stop playing and they didn’t. Props to the football players on both teams who played their hearts out, but boos to the Centennial Band which demonstrated a total lack of class and sportsmanship.

This will be a rare occasion that Hooch roots Roswell, but we really hope the Hornets kick their collective backsides and keep Centennial out of the playoff picture.

By cool cell

November 5, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

Todd,……Jarmon Fortson WR Carver-Col is the best WR in the state of Georgia, in my mind….with that said all i hear about is B.Butler kid, and the kid from Bannker, and the kid from Ceder grove. Todd could rank the top 5 WR’s in the state of Georgia?

By HoochDad

November 5, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this

Rounds 1 and 2 are hosted by the team with the higher seed. Round 3 is where the size of the stadium comes into play. Both the semis and finals are at the Dome this year.

By glenn brown

November 5, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

have everybody forgot about the griffin high bears

By Hoya

November 5, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this

Vikings Roll… Over rated? Do you remember us coming to house and taking it to you. I believe we came down there, waited for the game to start and then simply took you behind the wood shed. Did you make it past midfield all game? If that means we are over rated, I’ll be over rated all the way thru the playoffs… HOYA

By Centennial band mom

November 5, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this

Dear Original Cougar Mom, You are wrong. Our Band did NOT play the entire game nor did we play the entire time your team had the ball. In fact at the beginning of the game your announcer made a rude comment by saying “Centennial Band, please do not play during the game.” We took that to mean he didn’t want us to play during the entire game even during time outs. We actually had one Centennial football mom come over and ask us why we weren’t playing more. Our drum major watched and when the ball was snapped they stopped. Sounds like you are somewhat bitter that our team won. It was one of the most exciting games I’ve ever been to and both teams played their hearts out, we just came out on top. We are thrilled with our guys, who at the beginning of the year weren’t expected to even win much of anything. By the way, the Cougar band played too and no one on our side complained. You have a great team, you just lost a tough one. Let’s see what happens this weekend.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

Roger,

I don’t put a lot of stock in preseason games, but if you are going there, NH beat HC in preseason,too. You want to compare SC to WC, and I never said that WC could beat SC. Heck, I’ve never said a bad word about Stephens Co, as a matter of fact, I’ve been talking about how good they are all season, when nobody else would give them any respect. They made me a believer after they beat Hab Central. As for NH not playing outside of their region, if you would do your research, then you would find out that NH schedule was made before the region was split into subregions. Therefore, they had no choice but to play the schedule that was given them. Also, when ranking regions, it’s not just the best team or top 2 teams in that region, it’s the whole region that’s taken into consideration. I know that you are not telling me that the THREE teams that are 4-5 right now in 8AAA (two of which will make the playoffs), could make the playoffs in 7AAA over NH, FB, Gainesville, Chestatee, or White Co, all of whom have WINNING records. There ranking in AAA is correct and should not be changed.

By Centennial band mom

November 5, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this

Dear Hooch Dad (a.k.a. Sour grapes)

You are wrong. Our bad did stop playing during the game when both teams had the ball. Your band played as well. The kids on both side of the field dug down deep and played their hearts out. The bands on both sides might have helped the crowd get into it, but I doubt very seriously either band hampered either team. It sounds to me that you guys are still looking for someone to blame for the loss. As I told the Cougar mom, we had parents asking us why we weren’t playing more.
It seems to me that no one expected our team to have a chance and maybe everyone in Cougar land is still in shock. Regardless of what happens this weekend, we are very proud of our Knights football team! Go Knights!

By drock7

November 5, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this

I just want to invite you personally to Newnan vs East Coweta friday. There should be around 10,000 to 15,000 friday. You will see a Newnan team full of weapons. Holla at a brother we can sit together and enjoy the show. Bring your soda and popcorn. See ya there

By mark

November 5, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this

Todd, look out for the Lowndes Vikings. I went to see them Friday nite and Wow. They are loaded with young talent that is already getting a ton of playing time. If you’re gonna get ‘em it betteer be this year AAAAA foes.

By FootBall FAN

November 5, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this

Thanks HooochDAD,

What is the size of stadium needed for GAME 3 of the play offs? How do we determine home field advantage during the playoffs? North Cobb is the team I am most familiar with and I believe they would face Lowndess (sp?) in round 3. Would that instantly be an away game for North Cobb?

Thanks again!

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

To: “AAA” fans everywhere, This is looking like a season where the VERY best team in ANY classification may be AAA. Carver-Columbus first: Everyone who sees this team play is taken by Deron Furr and Jarmon Fortson. Rightfully so. 2 highly rated D-1 prospects. But, as we all know, offense sells tickets. Defense wins games. Carver’s defense is as good as I have seen in the past 10 years. The Carver vs. LaGrange game was an epic battle of 2 great defensive teams. Neither team’s offense was capable of moving the ball against the other team’s defense. The Granger’s gave Carver a HUGE break by turning the ball over at their own 17. Aside from that, it was gridlock, until…..Deron Furr took the bull by the horns late in the game. He was unstoppable. NO BIG runs. Just a phsyical drive late in the game when the score was 12-10 Carver. It was 4 yds and a cloud of dust. But, Furr was UNSTOPABLE against a very good LaGrange defense. (Stay with me. I am leading up to North Hall, Stephens County, Carrollton, Cairo.) The way to beat Carver, (THE ONLY WAY) is to exploit their kicking game and their special teams.) Carver’s kicking game is weak. Both place kicking and punting.) Sorry “cj”, but that is the way I see it. To: North Hall, Stephens County, Carrollton, and Cairo…. NOBODY is going to score many points against Carver-Columbus. They are that good. But, in a close game, Carver can be beaten by special teams and the kicking game. For whatever it may be worth, aside from the kicking issues with Carver, I would bet the ranch on Carver against ANY school in ANY classification, unless they beat themselves.(which they ARE capable of doing), but I doubt it. Did I mention the “kicking game?”

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 8:12 PM | Link to this

I just want to invite you personally to Newnan vs East Coweta friday. There should be around 10,000 to 15,000 friday. You will see a Newnan team full of weapons. Holla at a brother we can sit together and enjoy the show. Bring your soda and popcorn. See ya there.

I need more invitations like that! … I’m really intrigued by Newnan and East Coweta because these are teams that haven’t been ranked. The way I do rankings, if your region didn’t do well the previous year and if there aren’t many region games to prove yourself in during the current season, I tend to still w/ the old faithfuls. But I’m curious to see if EC & Newnan can do some damage in the state playoffs.

look out for the Lowndes Vikings. I went to see them Friday nite and Wow. They are loaded with young talent that is already getting a ton of playing time.

I’ve already gone on record as predicting a Lowndes state title. But I’ve not seen Lowndes play since the 2006 Harrison game, so it’s as much reputation and respect as anything that drives that prediction.

*Our bad did stop playing during the game when both teams had the ball. Your band played as well. *

Poll Talk is now the Battle of the Bands. Best bands I saw this season were North Springs and Mays.

have everybody forgot about the griffin high bears

Are the Bears going to make the state playoffs?

Todd,……Jarmon Fortson WR Carver-Col is the best WR in the state of Georgia, in my mind….with that said all i hear about is B.Butler kid, and the kid from Bannker, and the kid from Ceder grove. Todd could rank the top 5 WR’s in the state of Georgia?

1-Tavarres King 2-Brice Butler 3-J.Fortson 4-Chip Reeves 5-Josh Jarboe HM: Chris Jackson

* wish the GHSA would post the region tiebreak rules online so everyone could see them. The suggested rules mean nothing if each region can just do what they want, and the sub-regions make it that much worse. Hopefully they’ll do away with the stupid sub-regions with the re-alignment next year.*

The GHSA doesn’t know the region tiebreak rules, but I guess that’s your point. Yes, they should be turned in to the GHSA and posted.

As for 6-AAAAA, that’s just a mess. I’m going to think of a better way in just a minute and post it.

By Roger

November 5, 2007 8:14 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans, I am not saying that NH is not a good team, but I don’t think that Gainesville, Flowery Branch or Chestatee are very good teams; I have seen Chestatee play and they would have a hard time beating Occonee County or Franklin County. That being said I know that your schedule has been made ahead of time and that you are stuck playing that schedule, but what I am saying is that you can’t tell me that 7-AAA overall is that strong when I see how bad they are being blown out by NH. I know that NH is good, but if the rest of the region was all that strong then they should be able to give you a close game; that has not happened all year. If you look at 2-AAA Lagrange, Shaw and Carver are able to give each other a close game; Stephens County and Hart County play each other close. I guess what I am saying is that I think in 7-AAA you have a real good NH team but not much else; if I am wrong then please explain to me how I am to think otherwise and like you I am not putting NH down I think they could win a region championship in any of the eight regions; I picked them to make it to the dome. I hope I didn’t give you the impression that I thought NH was overrated.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 8:22 PM | Link to this

To: TODD HOLCOMB and “the syrup people”, Troup, like Harris County has not had much succes in the play-offs in recent years. But, rest assured, both of these teams are capable of being Region champions in most any other region than 2AAA. So, here goes: against Cairo, my bet lies with Troup or Harris County. Not to dis Cairo. Troup and Harris County are just simply that good. Ae we back to “crow eating” time?

By josh

November 5, 2007 8:23 PM | Link to this

todd you said that stephens co didn’t play a tough schedule… wrong they have played three ranked teams one being the #4 team in AAAA. of our four non region games two were against ranked opponents, can’t help we have a weak region, but we did all we could do to play non region teams that were state contenders. not taking anything away from north hall but that could be a problem for them come playoffs, their region is also weak with the exception of flowery branch, i doubt that the north hall starters have played a full game all year long and i promise you that north hall will not run over teams like they have in the playoffs, on the other hand stephens county has been behind a few times and responded well each time, who knows with north hall. no disrespect north hall would love to see you second round game against hart’s run defense.

By Spartan

November 5, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

Todd, How do you see Class A playing out this year? Any chance for my Athens Academy boys?

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 8:35 PM | Link to this

Roger,

No offense taken. The only thing that I can say is that FB has improved tremendously since the NH game. They are a formiddable foe for ANY team (including NH if they meet again), and if anyone is overlooking them in the playoffs then they will probably get beat. As for as the rest, I’ve seen Franklin play SC this year, and the only reason that Franklin played them close was that SC was flat. A better team would have taken advantage of them having an off-night and beat them. That’s not a knock on SC, I’m just stating a fact. When NH played FB, NH had the perfect against Jaybo Shaw. Since that time, FB has learned to not be as dependent upon him, but to spread the ball around. The reason NH is so successful is simple, they have an outstanding DEFENSE, and like my man slalomlikes to say (and I agree with him), defense wins championships. Roger, we NE Ga. guys have to stick together because we are in the minority on here. I picked SC to be in the dome, too, as you can see in a previous post.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 8:41 PM | Link to this

To: “All GHS football fans” You guys need to lay-off on the bands. They get none of the glory, yet they are there every Friday night to support their team. Not only that, they are on the practice field preparing for a half time show each week, for about as much time as the football team prepares. Just to please you guys, imagine high school football without bands. How do you like that idea?

By cj

November 5, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this

To slalom, our kicker mmight not be all state or even all team, but we rarely need him. I dont think teams worry about him as much as they do about furr, fortson, or our rb’s. now lagrange has an excellent kicker i will give you that, maybe we can recruit him for next year. Its hard to stop that carver offense. Fortson is a beast. You can go to ledger-enquirer web site to look at the size of furr and fortson. I think we are averaging 35 points a game this year and only giving up like 7. I would love to see NH against carver to see if they could stop us, and run against us.

By cj

November 5, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this

todd, Have you seen the fortson kid play. If not try to find the film of him against carrolton last year, he might move up in your top 5

By EP SENIOR

November 5, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this

My problem with the AAAA rankings is the teams that not only have lost a game, but teams that have played and/or lost to AA/AAA teams. Such as: Habersham Central-losing to Stephens County(no regard to their undefeated record…it’s AAA!), Baldwin-they start their season with 1 AAA team and 2 AA teams. How can winning these games mean a flip in the state rankings.

What this says to me: After an UGLY loss out of Cedar Shoals this past Friday, Region Champion and potential perfect season East Paulding should hit the #5 spot ATLEAST when the new AAAA rankings come out tomorrow. If not…I have to wonder about GAsports and whoever is in charge of state rankings!

O YA. When the playoffs come around and ya’ll get ready to drive to the Bone Yard in little ‘ol Dallas, GA throughout the playoffs, just be ready; because the beast from the EAST is hungry!!!! You can score 60 points on us but the way we’re playing, we will score 61 and beat any team that comes in our way.

By reg 7

November 5, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this

Flowery Branch will surprise quite a few people come playoff time. I can already see it coming.

To anyone who thinks there team is a lock remember Tommy Boy’s famous line.

Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time. But for right now, for your sake, for your daughter’s sake, ya might wanna think about buying a quality item from me. That item is Flowery Branch Football.

By cj

November 5, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this

lol fb. are they as bad as the atlanta falcons. didn’t they get the smack down from nth.

By Sam

November 5, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this

Cougar mom, did the coaches complain when the Centennial band played?

“Bands are not to play during live-ball situations. NOTE: This includes the situation in which there is no timeout and the teams are in a huddle. (a) If, during a football game, a team claims interference with communications due to band noise, the Referee shall give a warning to one or both head coaches and the bands must cease playing. (b) If there is a second offense by the same school’s band, an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty will be imposed against that school’s team.”

The GHSA Constitution Page 66, section F, subsection 2.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 9:06 PM | Link to this

Josh,

You are correct, North Hall’s starters have not played a full game all season, but that won’t be a problem. If it’s conditioning you are thinking about, there’s no need for concern, because these young men have been doing conditioning since the beginning of summer and they still do their drills at least once a week. If it’s playing in a close game that concerns you, believe it or not, they have been behind against Flowery Branch in the First quarter of that game and responded just fine. I do have some concerns about that area, but I guess that nobody has ever wondered ” is it that weak of a region, or is NH just THAT good?” I guess that we will find that out very soon. As for Hart Co, if they dont think that NH can pass, then they better think again. NH passes when they WANT to not when they HAVE to. Another question, I know that they just did a good job of containing Poole, but are they going to be able to stop 4 very good backs?

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 9:07 PM | Link to this

Todd, why do you always imply that North Gwinnett will beat Norcross. This week’s game is setting up even better than last year. Last year North Gwinnett came into this game off of a bye week, rated higher in the polls, and Norcross just beat Collins Hill by 2 pts. Then beat NG 30-10 at their stadium. This year NG comes into the game off of a bye week, rated higher in the polls and Norcross just had an unimpressive win over Collins Hill. But this year’s game will be at Norcross which is a big advantage. And Todd the last game Norcross had against and big defensive line was Grayson who we beat 24-3.

So Todd, before you make your next North Gwinnett vs Norcross perdiction, just call me and I will let you know who will win.

Norcross 24 North Gwinnett 17.

By Reg 7

November 5, 2007 9:07 PM | Link to this

CJ the way I see it is this. Your team has ALL the pressure on them. You have hyped them up so much (which I can respect) that you would think they could go out there and beat the Dallas Cowboys.

Yes we got pounded by NTH. That being our only blemish on the season.

All I am saying is we are back in the top 10 and should not be over looked in the playoffs.

However from the sounds of your post it does not matter who’s out there b/c Carver is going to kick the crap out of them even if it’s Tom Brady and the Patriots lining up on the other side… I know they are good but remember on any given day any team can fall.

Good luck, hope you live up to all the hype all the way to the end.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this

So, here goes: against Cairo, my bet lies with Troup or Harris County. Not to dis Cairo. Troup and Harris County are just simply that good. Ae we back to “crow eating” time?

The Syrup People must sleep tonight or we’d already have a rebuttal. I’ll be curious to see how Troup or Harris does in a couple of weeks.

My problem with the AAAA rankings is the teams that not only have lost a game, but teams that have played and/or lost to AA/AAA teams. Such as: Habersham Central-losing to Stephens County(no regard to their undefeated record…it’s AAA!), Baldwin-they start their season with 1 AAA team and 2 AA teams. How can winning these games mean a flip in the state rankings.

Good questions, EP. East Paulding is a real tough team to figure. You could argue that a returning Final Four team that’s undefeated should be ranked No. 2 behind Northside. I wouldn’t have a problem w/ that.

But I think Stephens County is better than anyone that EP has played. Might be wrong, but I think it. And EP has squeeked by a couple of average teams. Habersham has crushed everybody it has played, save Stephens, and that was 31-28.

I felt the same way about EP last season and was proven wrong. So we’ll see. I just cannot see EP in the SF again. Even the QF would surprise me. But more power to ‘em if they do make it. And I’ll be the first to salute them.

Have you seen the fortson kid play. If not try to find the film of him against carrolton last year, he might move up in your top 5

Fortson is in my top five, but I’ve not seen him play this year. I’m not the expert on rating players, either. Just did that ranking above for fun. The only top WR I’ve seen this season is Jarboe. He was by far the best athlete on the field, but the opponent was North Springs.

I hear more good things about Tavarres King than any other.

Todd, How do you see Class A playing out this year? Any chance for my Athens Academy boys?

To be honest, Athens Academy has been a disappointment. AA is a good team, but I really expected another Final Four type team, and w/ Lincoln County a little down, I thought this was AA’s chance. But now, I see Jefferson as the top team in that region and little hope for AA doing much more than winning one round in the playoffs.

As for Class A overall, I’ve thought from start to finish that Wilcox County was the club. Still liking Wilcox.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 9:12 PM | Link to this

To: “cj” I am VERY familiar with both Furr and Fortson. AMAZING athletes. I would like to see a team in ANY classification match their top 2 players against Furr and Fortson. Having said that, as good as they are, it is the Carver defense that will most likely land them the BIG prize this season. As I have said before, the only team in the state that beats Carver-Columbus in 2007, is Carver-Columbus. The kicking game COULD be a factor. But, probably not. Carver is THAT good. Probably will not need the kicking game.(And, their kicking game is not that terrible, it is just their ONLY weakness). And….it may play a factor before season’s end. I hope not,(unless it may be against LHS.) Also, probably not. But, was I wrong about the LG vs. Carver game being an epic game of defense?(until Furr took control late in the game?)

By CHS Dawgs

November 5, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this

Todd, I know sitting down and ranking teams week after week must be a tough job. but theres just something odd about it. Im a proud parent and i have a child who plays at chamblee high school. the dawgs currently have one the greatest records in school history. why when chamblee lost to westminster, a very well coached team like chamblee, did they go being ranked 4th to nothing??? that doesnt seem right. but, then the next week you rank westminster 10th. but westminster lost to dunwoody this week and i can understand why they are no longer rank. usually when i read the papers and a top 5 team loses, they drop a few places and remain in the top 10. so, why is chamblee no longer ranked??

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 9:16 PM | Link to this

Todd did you see the North Cobb vs Etowah game? Bottomline Etowah almost won that game. Eventhough they were down 21 pts, they came back to within 7pts. While Etowah look like they had a few outstanding athletes, they did not look like they should be able to beat the no.1 AAAAA rated team. Therefore I do have somes questions about North Cobb ability to beat top ten teams in a single elimination formap.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this

cj,

Yes they did get smacked by NH, but they have improved since then. I saw the Gainesville game the next week and they were down the whole game just to come back in the fourth quarter and win. Since the NH game, FB has handled every opponent with ease, getting better week by week. Their QB is a gamebreaker and the rest of their offense is solid. Their defense has progressed well since that game, also. I would love to see the NH/Carver matchup as well. What most people don’t realize (and reg 7 will back me up on this) is that NH has a dominating defense, teams don’t score on them inside the 20, and that’s a stat that does not get a lot of recognition.

By cj

November 5, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this

to reg 7. Its not just carver that would kill fb. Monroe, Westover, and Cairo would put the smack down on them. From what I have seen on film, FB does not play good defense. No disrespect to FB, but come and play one of the south georgia teams, where the kids eat and breath football. Just thought I would throw in the falcons jab since that is where they practice. As for carver they haven’t kicked the crap out of everyone they only beat shaw 25-6 and lagrange 19-10. But beating those two teams should show that this team is battle tested.

By CHS Dawgs

November 5, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this

And by the way. how well do you think chamblee will do in the playoffs? if they play as hard as we all know they can, could they go all the way? If not, who do you see winning the class AAA champioshi/p

By Randy

November 5, 2007 9:37 PM | Link to this

My guess is Todd you will not get many agreements on your rankings. I really don’t think rankings mean much any way. It’s whose hungriest,best prepared and plays mistake free football that will win in the playoffs.You may even see unranked teams knock off some that are. Anyway, Georgia High School Football is Tops. It’s going to be exciting. Win Or Lose, Do it with dignity.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

CHS Dawgs,

Correct me if I’m wrong, but right now you would be the #3 seed, that would put you up against Flowery Branch. If you move up to #2 seed, then you would most likely face Gainesville, #4 would face North Hall and have NO chance, and #1 would likely face either White Co or Chestatee, a very winnable game.

By You Missed the Question Dude

November 5, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this

Let me try the question again in a little different format. If Sprayberry wins this week will they ONLY be the 4th seed in region 6 AAAAA?

By EP SENIOR

November 5, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

Todd, truthfully…I’ll take EP’s 2 shutouts and only allowing a field goal to 2 teams over H. Central’s 1 shutout and a few beatings of “middle school” teams anyday. Yes we win by 1 to PC (county rivalries always gonna be tough games), and last second win to Sequoyah were “squeeking” by, but Sequoyah shows up to EP at 5:30…pads on and ready to play knowing they HAVE to win their last two games to make it to the playoffs. I’d say we’ve played top 5 worthy: Slaughtering of Cherokee on CSS and making #2 play on SportsCenter…what other GA team has done that this year???

By steven maxwell

November 5, 2007 10:04 PM | Link to this

To just sum it up 7AAA is weak and that’s it.Blame it on the way the schdule is made out bull when they use to play in 8AAA they could’nt contend with the indians.They bet us in the second round back in 2005 but that was when poole was a freshmen coming in behind a senior and he should have been starting then.But that is the past and this is now.NH is a pretty good team but they must get past hart in the second round of the play-offs and if they can do that then i will give them a little more respect but until then there still just desent to me.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 10:07 PM | Link to this

To: TODD HOLCOMB, Do you believe there may be just a FEW AAA fans here? Have you seen Carver-Columbus yet? How about North Hall? I have seen Carver, but not North Hall. I have also seen Lowndes, Brookwood, NSWR, and a few others. Carver is by a long shot the most athletic team in all of GHS football that I have seen this season.

By Knights fan

November 5, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

Hornet fan, Centennial actually beat Chattahoochee by 2 points. Thanks for explaining the tie breaker, etc. It sounds pretty complicated, but I guess we’ll have to see what happens Friday night. We’re just thrilled to even be in this position!

By EP SENIOR '08

November 5, 2007 10:11 PM | Link to this

so no disrespect ‘cuz u know a lot more about the football all around than i do, but East Paulding is not “squeaking” by, well i dont think. last year we were pounded for running up the score like the patriots are being scorched now, we have dialed down things and simply taken it easy on into the 3rd and 4th quarters instead of keeping our starters in and beating teams 70-0 like we did Woodland last year. granted our region is no where near strong, but we still have dominated these guys and it will be interesting to see wat we do against “better” teams in the playoffs. just keep a weather eye open and i can guarantee that you will see East Paulding popping up in the SF and maybe even the State Championship. thanks man. after our history, i never thought id be gettin’ to talk like this, haha.

By NC Alum

November 5, 2007 10:13 PM | Link to this

Devil Lover

Yea NC let Etowah back in the game. They took there foot off of the throttle. But in the end a win is a win.

By the way NC is not only ranked #1 in AAAAA they are #45 in the national rankings. There is only 1 other GA team on the poll and the is NSWR at #14 if I remember correctly.

Now Devil how did Marietta do against Woodstock last week??? LOL

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 10:26 PM | Link to this

To: “NTH Trojans” I have now watched all of this year’s North Hall season highlights. Very impressed. Very quick on both sides of the ball. Here is my question:”What about the kicking game, and special teams?” This could be huge against any of the 2AAA schools, Carver in particular. Just have a “gut” feeling about this North Hall team, that tells me they are talented enough, and well coached enough to overcome some potential problems that I can see. Honestly, from the highlights I have seen, their defensive pursuit against Carver and Shaw in particular, might be a problem for North Hall. To win against either of these 2 teams, they will have to pursue less, and contain better. But, like I said, there is a “gut” feeling about this team that tells me they may have what it takes. The key will be special teams, kicking game, and “over-pursuit” on defense. As long as they can get these 3 things right, they have a good shot. Carver is VERY good. Hoping to be at the “Brickyard”.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this

To: “All Cobb County Fans” Enjoy now. It will be very short lived. No Cobb County team makes it to the “dome.”

By Roger

November 5, 2007 10:47 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans, I agree that we NEGA teams need to stick together I hope that Stephens County wins the AAA state title, but if not I would have no problem with NH, FB or Hart County winning it all. I would like to see Todd and the AJC give some of these good NGA teams some credit. I know that Carver, LaGrange, Shaw and Cairo are good teams but show us NGA teams some respect; if we are to believe all that we read here and in the AJC print media than we should just stay home.

By cobb county fan

November 5, 2007 10:51 PM | Link to this

Not one eh? Care to elaborate. Who drops who?

Walton and Harrison will more than likely meet in the playoffs so there we knock one of those teams out. Marietta is not good enough I agree North Cobb unproven but having a great year should make it to a showdown with Lowndes. And that might end their run. Who knocks of Harrison?

If your going to make a statement like that back it up with some reasoning. Thats all I am asking for.

By steven maxwell

November 5, 2007 11:12 PM | Link to this

NH is a desent team with good coaches but the coaches can’t play the game for them and i’am not taking

By yo

November 5, 2007 11:34 PM | Link to this

I thought I might post again on this blog but I believe the whole state of Ga. already has and so I don’t think anybody but Slalom would notice. Wow Slalom…whatever happened to NSWR being the best thing since the Miami Dolphins went undefeated one year? You jumped off the NSWR locomotive and landed on Carver’s little red wagon I do believe. Head first! :-) What happened, did you try to go back to the old days and make a tackle for your Lagrange boys and get run over by one of Carver’s 2 awesome athletes and meet them up close and personal or something? Head first? :-)

By steven maxwell

November 5, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this

North Hall may have four good offensive weapons but i bet those four together dont’t have as many yards and td’s as poole and when you key in on him our secret weapons come out and kill you just ask hart they tried to shut poole down in which they did slow him down cause he only rushed for 148yrds and all 3tds.But just when you think you got him he breaks out for the big one like he did all this year this is a special kid here he’s humble and smart he’s not cockey at all he just play’s the game well and works hard at practice and at game time weither he’s in the play or not he goes hard and does’nt take a play off he just wears a deffense down.so all teams including craver columbus better be ready for the indians cause even a giant can fall and that’s what everyone seems to think carver is and our defense contains and defends

By Todd

November 6, 2007 12:06 AM | Link to this

I’m surprised at the lack of Northside bloggers this week. God knows I defended Northside to the death—but I saw them play Friday night, and they are not the same team without Ivory. No offense to Westside but with Ivory they win that game by 30 points. The offensive line, receivers, running backs, and defense are still great, but Ivory brought a confidence and charisma that were obviously lacking against Westside. Nix resorted to the play calling that plagued NHS for so many years—up the middle, up the middle, and up the middle again. Any coach with half a brain will be prepared for that gameplan. When the coach has no confidence in the QB, neither will the team. I won’t be surprised to see a second or third round exit from the playoffs.

By steven maxwell

November 6, 2007 12:54 AM | Link to this

todd the best game played in the state of ga this week has’nt been mentioned stepens vs hart.You talked about 2AA games and a single A game what’s up with that let me know did you forget they played friday.I see you talked about N.Gwinnett.

By Reeze

November 6, 2007 1:20 AM | Link to this

Todd(not Holcomb),You know we’re not far away, just waiting for the chance to jump in when something negative is said.I don’t know if you noticed or not,but Julian Burnett and the rest of the Westside defense we’re fired up and taking heads off .This defensive unit is the best in all AAAA this year, in my opinion,yes better than NSWR.You can’t run on these kids. How many times have you seen any team ribrock,up end and have T Green on his back that many times? Or hold him to 34 yards in the first half.Ivory or not,the first half would have been the same outcome.It had nothing to do with lack of confidence or charisma?(not used in football,maybe ballet).It was two of the best teams in the state and two legendary coaches going head to head.Yes i was wondering to ,why Nix was trying to run the middle on these guys so many times.But as we saw in the 2nd half he went with play action and misdirection plays and got the job done.This game was a confidence builder for Scott.He got through this one with no major mistakes ,he’ll get better with each game .Maybe then we’ll be as charismatic as ever!

By hsref

November 6, 2007 4:32 AM | Link to this

TO clear up the band issue. The bands are suppose to stop playing once the offical blows the ready for play. It they do not and either teams complains about not being able to hear then the offical will give a warning to that teams head coach to have the band stop playing. Any time it happens again during the game it is a 15 yard penalty.

By hsref

November 6, 2007 4:44 AM | Link to this

TO address the issue about where the playoff games are played. In the 1st and 2nd round of the playoffs the higher seed host the play off game. In the 3rd round if the higher seed has enough seats per GHSA guide lines (see below) they will host the game. It that team does not have enough seats they get to chose where the game will be played. If both teams are the same seed and both home stadiums have enough seats they filp a coin to see how host the game. If both teams have the same seed and only one home stadium has enough seats then that team host the game. If neither team can host then GHSA picks the site. The Semi Finals are played in the Dome this year. The Finals are played at the higher seeded teams home field and has the same provisions as the 3rd round games do. Next year the finals will be played at the Dome.

A 2000 Seats AA 2500 Seats AAA 3000 Seats AAAA 4000 Seats AAAAA 6000 Seats

By NTH Trojans

November 6, 2007 7:32 AM | Link to this

stephen maxwell,

I have said all year long that Poole & SC are for real. You talk about respect for SC, but you don’t show respect for anyone outside of 8AAA. Carver, Columbus IS for real, as are NH, Shaw, LaGrange, & Carrollton. I’ve seen game footage of CC, LG, and Shaw, and I know that they are for real. slalom, NH coaches will prepare them not to overpursue vs CC.

By FanMan

November 6, 2007 7:33 AM | Link to this

I cannot believe people are still commenting about the bands playing. Time to move on.

By Football Fan

November 6, 2007 8:31 AM | Link to this

The band playing during live ball situations at the Centennial-Chattahoochee game is just another example of the officials having their heads where the sun doesn’t shine. The speed and complexity of the high school game has passed them by. This year I have seen misdirection backfields with three backs routinely moving when the ball is snapped, odd formations with 5 backs in the backfield several times during the game (referee looking right at it, 3000 fans pointing),a shotgun QB moving when the ball is snapped (finally called when he took off running as the ball was snapped), holding in the backfield so bad the DL’s jersey was stretched out two feet behind him with the Referee looking right at him, phantom illegal substitution calls after the play is complete, pass interference called on an interception, phantom block-in-the-back calls 50 yards behind the play on touchdown runs, etc. Can’t expect them to get the band call right when they can’t even keep up with what is going on on the field. No one likes the officials, but they have really gotten bad the last two years.

By BigPerm

November 6, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

I just saw this on Norcross’ web site: “Clay Aiken to perform at half time”……wow…BIGTIME!

By devil lover

November 6, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

Todd, can you tell us how the state championship teams were rated going into the playoffs for the past five years? I am curious to see if the polls are a good predictor.

By mikeyfresh

November 6, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

Steven Maxwell are you blind stephens county and hart county are what make 8-AAA good oconee county is decent but will be put out in the first round and whoever gets the 4th and final spot either franklin county or apalchee will also get put out in the frist round. two teams cant make a region you saw what happened when hart county played a decent team in clarke central and they barely beat weslyan and then get trounched by stephens county and now are out of the top ten rankings all together get back at me when you can really talk

By vegasjs

November 6, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Here is the nightmare scenario for 6-AAAAA. Roswell up 14-13, 1 minute left, Centenniel ball on the 50. Centenniel takes a knee 3 times and runs out the clock to preserve the one point LOSS. They win the tiebreaker and get the 6-AAAAA 2 seed.

By Todd Holcomb

November 6, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Todd, can you tell us how the state championship teams were rated going into the playoffs for the past five years? I am curious to see if the polls are a good predictor.

DL: I don’t have time to do the research on that, but it would be interesting. If you want to play around w/ it, here’s the place to start:

http://ghsfha.org/rankings.php?pageNumDisplayPollYear=11&totalRowsDisplayPollYear=13&aSource=Atlanta%20Journal-Constitution&aPollNum=1&aYear2=2006

Just looking at last season, the eventual champs in AAAA, AAA, AA and A were all rated 1 or 2, I believe. But two of the Final Four teams in AAAAA (W.Robins, P.Ridge) were unranked).

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 6, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this

If you didn’t read the entire blog or all the entries that I made then don’t comment on what I said about the freakin’ band. I simply stated that the band played while the game was in motion and I was warning Hornet Nation of that. Yes, our announcer made a sarcastic comment about your band, big deal. He also made a statement about half time which you didn’t quote something to the effect of instead of watching the bands during half time we are going to have a football game. Get over my comment. I am not bitter that your team won. It was an exciting game.

By whocares Enough already

November 6, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

To: the original cougar mom.

I like the fact the you come here and post. But the band issue is over. Let’s stop beating this dead horse and don’t even mention it again please.

Instead tell us how bad your team is going to destroy Milton this weekend.

Thanks, and best of luck not that I think you guys need it.

By Ed NSHS Fan

November 6, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

TO: By Todd, slalom 1, and Yo. Guys as a true blue NSWR fan the fight that NSWR had with Ivory is gone. I saw an unranked team on the field in Friday’s game against Westside-Macon. Todd, I agree with your assessment of coach Nix in his play calling. I think he is going to get TiJuan Green hurt with his pre-2006 game calling. We in the WR area is hoping for a miracle from QB Scott. He is doing his best! Slalom 1, abandoned NSWR to pick up on Carver-Columbus when Ivory went down. I can’t blame him for that. I just wish the national ratings of NSWR and state rating change because NSWR is not a number 1 team now. I try to not let my loyalty to a team cloud truth.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 6, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

who cares you are aboslutely right..

GO COUGARS!

By devil lover

November 6, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Todd not a bad job over the last five years. One of your top three picks have won the championship game four out of the last five years as follows:

Year Champ. Team Yearend Rating

2002 Parkview First 2003 Camden County First 2004 Lowndes Second 2005 Lowndes Third 2006 Roswell/Peach R Seventh/NA

By NC fan

November 6, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

To Devil here is a quick break down for you

over past 5 years in class AA through AAAAA ( i did not do A)

1 0r 2 has won state title in 3 of 5 years in every single division.

Here are the execptions.

AAAAA 05’ Lowndes,
06’ Roswell/P’tree

AAAA 04’ Warner Robins, 03’ Marist

AAA 05’ Peach Co, 03’ LaGrange

AA 05’ Charlton, 04’ Charlton

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

To:”Yo”, I believe somebody has been smoking something. As much as I hate it for NSWR, now that Ivory is out, it changes everything. With Ivory, I believe that NSWR was simply unbeatable in GHS football. As for Carver-Columbus, there are some “ifs”. But as long as Furr and Fortson are healthy, Carver can only be beaten by themselves.(kicking game, special teams). And….that is a possibility. Also, did not think Carver was that good early in the season. But after having seen them 4 times, I am now convinced.

By Hoochie

November 6, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

I agree enough about the band. But to the Knight Mom -What game were you at? I was at the Hooch - Centennial game and the band DID play while our team had the ball and they did it on purpose. It was obvious to everyone there, except your side.

By tigerbrg

November 6, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

region 1 is the most balance region in the state all the teams play real good defense that’s one resaon region 1 is so consistent year in and year out. look at centennial they have region 1 coaches they run the same offense as coffee.their head coach was coffee’s offensive coordinator. they run exactly what coffee run.

By tigerbrg

November 6, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

region 1 is the most balance region in the state all the teams play real good defense that’s one resaon region 1 is so consistent year in and year out. look at centennial they have region 1 coaches they run the same offense as coffee.their head coach was coffee’s offensive coordinator. they run exactly what coffee run.

By Have had it

November 6, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

People, enough of the band stuff. PO-LEASE. That poor horse has been beat to death. Everytime someone says they have had enough they make another comment to get their opinion out there which just starts it all over again. Enough means just that, enough of the opinions. Move on and accept that you do not need the last word.

By northeast georgia guy

November 6, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Who is this North Hall Trojan guy? While Region 8-AAA may not be that strong, I am at a loss as to what makes you an expert on good AAA football teams. How many times have the Trojans been to the semi-finals or played for or even won a state championship. That would be a BIG ZERO. If you guys survive the first round, Hart County will beat you by at least two touchdowns. Get ready for girls basketball season!

By GwinnettFan

November 6, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

I feel pretty solid about 5-AAAAA at #1, and Regions 2-3-4 at the bottom, but those other four – 1, 6, 7, 8 – are pretty hard to separate.

Well, if we knew the outcomes, there would be no need to play the games.

Let’s see how good you are.

By To Band Bloggers

November 6, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Would all the band bloggers please march over to a Better Homes and Gardens blog site and leave this one for football. Thank you.

By Have Had it

November 6, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

TO: To Band Bloggers

Well said. Thanks for agreeing with my position.

By East Beast

November 6, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

EPHS is rebuilding this year, the team is about 80% of what they were last year. Still soon-to-be 10-0 and the 2nd consecutive year of undefeated JV and freshman teams says this dynasty is on it’s way. It also says here Mays will head East in week 2 if they can get by Cedar Shoals, so we’ll see if they can handle the beast and the cannon!

By RKB

November 6, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

As usual this rag of a paper continues to kiss the butts of all the schools north of I-20 and especially the ones in Gwinnett. What will it take for the South Metro teams to gain one ounce of respect? Regardless of what region their in, these teams can hardly even get their scores posted on Saturday morning much less any recognition. This is BS……..

By North of 1-20

November 6, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

To RKB I tell you what it will take. Some teams that are actually good! South Metro just does not have it.

South GA yes, South Metro NO

By Curios

November 6, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

I wonder, how can anyone feel they know so much about other regions and teams to really make some of the statements being made in this blog? Ah, never mind. That is why it is so much fun reading all these expert opinions. keep up the passionate work.

By BullDawg Rick

November 6, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Rank AA anyway you want…

The game for State will be Buford vs Charleton…

Been that way for 6 years in a row!!!

Buford is LOADED!!!

(RKB Charleton is South of I-20)

By RKB

November 6, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

To North of I-20, excuse me I mean North of 1-20, wherever that is. That is exactly the response I was expecting. If you love sleeping with the Sports commentators for the Urinal and Constipation that much so be it. Just don’t be so sure of yourself. I guess if you were ever able to read anything besides the AJC you would know about East Coweta or Newnan. Also to BullDawg Rick I have the upmost respect for you South Ga boys.

By Knights fan

November 6, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

To Hoochie: I was at the Centennial-Hooch game, in fact I was sitting right next to our band. They may have played during the time you had the ball in the beginning of the game but they did not do it the entire game. They took the 3rd quarter off so it shouldn’t have been much of a distraction to you. I bet if you ask your players, they probably didn’t even notice our band. Our guys have had opposing team’s band playing when we had the ball all year, didn’t seem to bother them. To: Cougar mom—-I’m over your comment, doesn’t bother me a bit except you guys just keep bringing it up. You said you were a first time football mom, then maybe you didn’t realize that the rivalry between Centennial and Chattahoochee is HUGE and it’s a big game every year regardless of the record. By the way, I talked to two Chattahoochee band moms last night and they said that they didn’t see anything wrong with our band and that both teams played a great game. What we couldn’t understand is why your coach was letting his players warm up on the field right in the middle of your band’s halftime show. Let’s put the game behind us and focus on this week’s game. We know that we have a tough game ahead of us against Roswell and you guys have a tough game against Milton. This is an exciting time of year so let’s enjoy every minute of it.

By NHS Forever

November 6, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

It will be tough for NSWR to repeat as AAAA champs this year without Ivory. Imagine the Colts without Manning, Pats without Brady, Gators without Tebow, etc. Where would they be? Take the best player off the field, it’s hard to replace.

That said, Scott is getting better. If Nix in his play calling will give Green, Bass, and company a chance to make plays, then they still have a good shot at winning it all. Don’t count them out yet.

By Knights fan

November 6, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

We haven’t even brought up the fact that Centennial’s starting kicker was injured during warm-ups on the astroturf at Chattahoochee. I don’t understand why high schools use this, the pros are getting away from it because it causes too many injuries. I know it’s good during the drought but sheesh! Anyway, our back-up kicker came in and did a great job!

We know what it is to lose a heartbreaker. Last year’s State AAAAA basketball championship when we lost by 1 point to Norcross was totally heartbreaking.

Again, both teams played their hearts out, we just happened to come out on top.

By Fan of high school football

November 6, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

To: “To Band Bloggers” - your comment was ridiculous. Just because someone plays in the band doesn’t mean they aren’t part of the experience. Yes, football is being played but the fans and the band cheer the team on. Wonder how much fun the game would be if you didn’t have them? Band members work hard and give a lot to the school, marching bands practice several hours a day perfecting their routines, etc. They are in no way sissy or soft. As far as the blog, we’re discussing fans, football players, refs, everything about the games that were played and also debating the GHSA rules about bands.

By will

November 6, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

who do you see going to the dome besides walton maybe north gwenett or hairrison norcoss

By Cougar Mom

November 6, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

A day late and a dollar short! You all went and sent the band bloggers to Home and Garden before I could get my say in!!! I have vented on here (and other blogs) before about bands playing during a live ball situation. While I am a PROUD PHS Alumni of 1986 (stop counting! I am old) Pebblebrook’s band is the WORST. Last season, they had FOUR penalties called on them for playing during a live ball situation in our stadium. I thought their coach’s head was going to explode! They did the same thing this season in their stadium but no penalties were called - go figure. (side note: PHS football boosters - PUH~LEASE have a work day in that staduim! SHAMEFUL how you have let it go)

To Original cougar Mom - hold your head up proud girl! You are a woman of you word and proud mother supporting her boys. Nothing shameful in that at all - what do they EXPECT you to do - support THEIR team because they think they are better? Any given friday night under the lights that game could have been won by either team.

To the AHD Cougars: GATA! Way to go Friday night! Three in a row!!! We set our goal at the begining of the season and we are one away. ANY GIVEN FRIDAY NIGHT UNDER THE LIGHTS ANY TEAM CAN WIN. Let’s go hunt some tigers. GATA! This is for County Braggin Rights now.

GATA Cougars…..GATA!

By Cougar Mom

November 6, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

AHS Cougars that is…….sheesh…typos!

By NC Fan

November 6, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Will

In order for Walton to get to the Dome they will have to beat Harrison. That is assuming both get through their 1st round game.

I would love to see that match-up in the 2nd round. The winner of that would move on to more than likely play the winner of the Valdosta -MLK game assuming they both do what they are supposed to.

That is a tough draw. Good Luck I have the winner of the Harrison v. Walton matchup moving on to the semi’s to go against either Brookwood or E.Coweta.

I see us N.Cobb playing Parkview or the #2 seed out of that whacky region 6 ( have no idea at this point) and then moving on to play Lowndes in Rd 3. That should be a great game.

The winner of that would meet either Camden Co. or N.Gwin assuming they do there jobs.

It’s almost playoff time. Good luck to all

By Hoya

November 6, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this

Will final four in the dome will be

Lowndes, Camden, Harrison, Brookwood

By Headlines: Band Takes Over Football Blog Site

November 6, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

This is for the Valdosta band and school officials. Years ago you folks came up to the dome and did a half-time show that was based on gospel music. Gospel music is not on the top of my ‘music I like at football games’ list but that half-time show was the best high school program I have ever witnessed. If you make it back to the dome in December how about bringing that half-time show with you? I’ll pull for your band but, sorry, not your football team. Go regions 7 and 8!

By mikefresh

November 6, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

STEVEN MAXWELL 8-AAA is a weak region execpt for stephens county and hart altough hart tied a sub par clarke central team and then hart could barely beat weslyan wut’s up with that?? and dont make me start on elbert how much worse could they get??? then we have s** apalachee team that couldnt beat a weak franklin county team and lets not forget about monore area sonds like 8-AAA is weak to me. why doesnt hart county schedule somebody besides clarke entral evry year it’s looking like you guys cant beat them and yeah hart had a good run last year in the playoffs but thats it kevan curry is about there only threat. you wanna sit here and bash 7-AAA but looks like 7-AAA and 8-AAA have something in common they both have one ranked team thats it. so for you to say that 8-AAA is the second hardest region is a freakin joke you must not check any other games out all year. i mean oconee county may go farther in the playoffs than hart county hao does that happen? but my point is you need to get your head out off you 8-AAA a* and check out other AAA football games eoungh said

By NC Rules

November 6, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

To all you North Cobb haters please read this article. The answers from one of the top 5 coaches in the state will tell you the story on North Cobb.

North Cobb is a Championship Team November 1, 2007 - — 5 reasons why… N. Cobb’s a top FB team

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 11/01/07

After a month of turmoil and upsets befalling the top teams in Class AAAAA, North Cobb has weathered the craziness and remained No. 1. Here are 5 reasons from Etowah coach Bill Stewart,why quarterback Matt Roark, tailback Calvin Middleton and the rest of the Warriors look so comfortable carrying around a bull’s-eye.

  1. Balance: “They can hit you in every direction. You don’t think about them throwing it much, but they throw it really well. [Former Tennessee quarterback] Tee Martin worked with Roark and said he could be a Division I quarterback. I’m sure Tee’s biased, but he knows what he’s talking about.”

  2. Defense: “They’re a sound defense. They’ve [improved] that side of the ball, where maybe last year they weren’t as strong. This year, the defense has caught up with the offense.”

  3. Momentum: “They’ve really been doing this since midway through last year. They started off a little slow. But it was a new staff, a new offense and defense. I think by mid-season, they were rolling.”

  4. Star power: “Roark and Middleton are incredible. You can’t over-emphasize either one of them. They’re pretty good about making you miss, but not just that. They’re pretty good about breaking tackles.”

  5. Hunger: “I just think they’re hungry to win it all. That’s definitely a factor. When you look at a team playing that way, they’ve got more than talent and good coaching. They’ve got some focus

By Go Knights!

November 6, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

Chattahoochee fans: Your QB Brendan Cross is a great player and athlete. My son played Baseball at Newtown Rec with him when they were 8 and we thought he was a good athlete even back then. You have a great team and it was an exciting game last Friday night. That’s what makes high school football so exciting, when the teams take the field you never know what’s going to happen. We thought it would be a hard fought game and it was. Yes, Your coach made some questionable decisions but the kids on both teams gave it their all. It will be interesting to see what happens this weekend. Don’t count the Knights out just yet!

As far as other teams in 6AAAAA, I’d say Walton is the team to beat.

By The Big Thun

November 6, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

Just a quick thought on the Hoyas this year. NC is a very good team and no matter what happened on the field earlier in the season, the 2 best teams in the state already had a show down. However, NC RULES wanted everybody to read this article about how great they are. When it all comes down, Harrison has more threats on both sides of the ball. And while NC has only faced one ranked team, Hoyas has faced 3 (Marietta is no longer ranked, but were undefeated until the were knocked off the map by Harrison). During this season NC has impressively outscored their opponents 202-102… Harrison has outscored opponents 222-75. And Lowndes… they were blanked by us, in the rain, on their field, after our 4 1/2 hour bus ride. that started at 9:45pm.
Harrison could never be overrated…

By utsportsfan2007

November 6, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

yal have force me to say something after reading all this. about north cobb they are a well coached team especially for that well skilled QB and i would know as u could see. But the season isnt up for north cobb they still have to play marietta and for norcross ppl count norcross out but no so fast my friend this games is about Qb againts Qb and WR against CB and the ppl in gwinnett know who i am talkin about the ball will be in the air more times then its gonna be runned. this game is gonna be close. y is it gonna be close because of how they match up. Good coaching against good coaching. theres no blow out in this one. and yes i agree with u walton is a sleeper but that defense and with j.j jackson anything could happen that goes with brookwood too. but in everybodys mind there wonderin if its their year. NG fans ill see in Norcross its gonna be chilly one.

By LK

November 6, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Having seen both Centenial and Chattahootchie play I can honestly say I NEVER would have called this upset. Hootch was simply a far superior team in all aspects of the game. But upsets happen, so there’s nothing left to do but to take care of your business on the field and hope for the best. It is unfortunate for Hootch that the subregion has three high quality teams, which fortunately for Sprayberry, is one more than the other subregion has.

By devil lover

November 6, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

Thun, so what. Norcross has played two top ten teams and is playing the no.2 rated North Gwinnett this weekend. We have scored 277 pts so far and only given up 82 pts.

You guys will play above the line but if we don’t beat NG friday we will see you in the dome.

Good Luck

By TheBigThun

November 6, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, I forgot to add that in years past- as most teams do- our 2nd stringers would come in and often remain scoreless and give up our only score… not so this year. Hoya depth has both held opposing offenses and scored on them like we had never taken our first team out. This team is in to win it.

By NC Fan

November 6, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Devil,

Which road would you rather travel. If you beat N.G It looks like you would have Etowah in rd.1 either Grayson or Hooch/Roswell/Centinial rd.2 Camden or Newnan most likely in rd.3 and Lowndes or NC in the Dome.

Lose and it will most likely be Marietta rd.1 Brookwood rd.2 E.Coweta rd.3 and Harrison, Valdosta or MLK in the dome?

Which path do you think would you rather have?

By Raider from the start

November 6, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Todd Holcomb, Thanks for remaining open about East Paulding. Many people dismissed us last year. We lost more than 20 seniors from that team. This year we had to sort of start over, then when we were beginning to roll we lost our head coach for a few weeks. Our coaches have proven once again that they are among the best in the state. They have brought this team along to the point where they can be very competitive. The long passing game has seen the most improvement over the past few weeks. We have some great receivers and a bull for a fullback that turns into a cheetah when he breaks through the line. This team never stops playing unless the whistle blows. They will put a helmet on you. But as I have said before, the proof is in the playing. We will all know where we stand in a very few weeks.

By Hoochie

November 6, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Anyone lucky enough to have witnessed the Chattahoochie- Centennial game last week and how both teams played their hearts out…I just wanted to say that the Cougars have played like that every week. Those kids have played week after week with unbelievable heart, tenacity and a determination that is an inspiration to all who watch. They are a special group of kids. Win or lose they have created magic.

By Curious fan

November 6, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

After reading all the comments pro and con regarding bands playing during games, I decided to check with the GHSA on the official rule. Here’s the reply I received today: Thank you for your inquiry about bands playing during a football game. This information is found in the Football section of the GHSA By-laws.

Bands are not to play while the ball is live or about to be live.

The officials will not intervene until a player claims that the band noise is interfering with his communication with team members.

The first intervention is a warning to the band to stop playing. Subsequent intervention could result in penalties against the team whose band ignored the ruling.

This rule is not intended to restrict bands, but rather to facilitate communication among players.

Ok, there’s the deal so we can put this issue to rest and move on.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 6, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Cougar Mom thanks for the words of encouragement and your support! I am very proud of our players and it was a tough game, just like any other!

3 in a row, CONGRATULATIONS!

We play Milton on Friday, on my birthday no less. My son has made it clear that they are going to win the game for me and he is going to make sure everyone knows that!

Go Knights..just because I am a first time football mom doesn’t make me ignorant to the fact that Hooch and Centennial are rivals. At this point in the game when you have great football teams trying to win the region and go to the state EVERY game is going to be a rivalry game. Every team is going to fight for that top spot. As far as the astroturf goes, I can’t explain that. Sorry your player got injured but I guess the turf is what the Hooch prefers…

GO COUGARS!

By TCC VS Bainbridge

November 6, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

TCC plays Bainbridge this friday. I have heard that TCC has the best running game in the state, I want to see for my self. A lot of people have told me they have a running back named the train that is 6ft 1 and 240lbs, and not only can run over you he can out run you. He has gave a verbal commitment to Auburn. A friend of mine watched him play agaist Tift Co this year, he said that he believes that he is one of the best running backs in the state. He also told me that TCC’s qb and other running backs are very good. Come friday I will find out about this running game that no one can stop.

By Go Knights

November 6, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Original Cougar mom, you are absolutely right…every game is huge at this point. We’re still trying to get used to the idea that we are right in the thick of things at this point in the season. Our boys have amazed us with the way they’ve played and we’re proud of them! You have a great team that has a lot of talent and has the potential to win it all. As far as the turf thing, it’s just one of those flukes that happen. Kudos to our second string kicker for stepping right in and getting the job done.

Regardless of what happens, there are a lot of wonderful young men at all these schools giving it their all both on and off the field. Hope you have a happy birthday, your son sounds like a great kid!

By Go Knights

November 6, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

I was looking at the AAAAA top 10 and I’m wondering how Roswell is #9 at 7-2 when Chattahooche has the same record and they beat Roswell. Just curious….I guess it’s based on last year’s performance too.

By Tucker Fan

November 6, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

Please note that the AJC schedule shows the Tucker vs. Cedar Grove game scheduled for 7:30 pm at Hallford Stadium this Saturday, 11/10/07. The time is WRONG, we play at 4:00 pm! Come out and watch a great game between two very competative 6 AAAA teams!

By NG17

November 6, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

HEY DEVIL LOVER.Region 7 will go deeper in playoffs with a Norcoss loss. I hate it when teams play each other again early in the playoffs. Good luck beating Grayson again if you take #1spot.Norcross has a better chance from 3 or 4 spot.Brookwood would be tight but your QB or QBS are both just average playoff players at best.North Gwinnett beat Norcross the year before last and our QB is a lot better this year.I would like to see both Norcross and North in the Dome and the odds are against beating both 8AAAAA teams in a rematch from the season.

By NTH Trojans

November 6, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

NE Ga Guy,

First and foremost, GET A CLUE!!! Secondly, IF Hart Co makes it to The Brickyard, you’ll be sent home whimpering. I’m sick and tired of the whining that all the HC fans have been doing. HC was preseason #1, and how did that work out? You choked in your first two games and whined about dropping out of the rankings. I know that the first team you played was in AAAA. So what, they were average, and you should have beat them… but you didn’t. Then the next week you played an INFERIOR Wesleyan team and barely got out with a win. What happens next? Oh yeah, you have a chance to redeem yourselves against Stephens Co and you contain Poole and SC for three quarters and the YOU CHOKE!!! That’s the story of your season. Meanwhile, North Hall goes about their business, and just DESTROYS EVERYONE IN THEIR PATH THIS SEASON!! You say we don’t play anyone, but I think that Flowery Branch(and possibly Gainesville) would beat HC if they played, simply because, if for no other reason, THEY WOULD CHOKE like they have all year. I have not been dogging HC until now, because I try to support All NE Ga teams until they play North Hall. If somebody beats NH this year, then I’ll eat crow and take it like a man. By the way, what’s your excuse for HC’s loss to SC?

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

To: “NHS” and “Ed NSHS Fan”, Guys I feel your pain. Just a few thoughts. Call it a pep talk, if you like. First of all it has to be a bummer to lose your star player. Especially during a season like this for NSHS. However, I believe that you guys are throwing in the towel just a little bit too soon. As good as Ivory was, NSHS had plenty of other weapons. Granted, the road to the AAAA title will undoubtedly be tougher with the loss of Ivory. However, consider that NSHS DID beat a solid AAAA team in their first contest without Ivory. I did not see the game, but sounds like it was not a very “pretty win”. Still, it WAS a win, against a solid AAAA team. Think about this: A great defense, with a great kicking game, and great special teams play, makes ANY team VERY difficult to beat. The offense does not have to be great to put points on the board, as long as they get the ball with a short field to work with. Northside has played very good defense, and their kicking game looks solid. “Ed” I have not “jumped ship” on Northside as far as still being my bet to win the AAAA title in 2007. But we all know that their fire power has been seriously compromised with the loss of Ivory. The wins may not be as pretty. But, if I were a NSHS fan right now, I would be rallying behind the defense and kicking game. In my mind, they are good enough to get the job done. You mentioned my interest in Carver and Deron Furr. The same would be true should Carver lose Furr. The difference is that Carver’s kicking game is very suspect. Should Northside win the AAAA title without Ivory, this makes for an even better “feel good” story. Gonna be much tougher, but I BELIEVE THEY CAN DO IT.

By burrdog

November 6, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

can we please get or does someone know what site to go to to find out which regions play who in the playoffs, like a playoff schedule?

By NC fan

November 6, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

www.gasports.com

By devil lover

November 6, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Our plans are to take the “winning Path”…Etowah, Grayson, Camden Country and then Lowndes. However we would rather play North Cobb because even though they are a good team, they have not played under this kind of pressure before. Lowndes has won three or four championships…big difference.

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

To:”NTH Trojans”, I do not believe that any Hart County fan has earned the right to “throw down” on anybody. Remember 2001? Hart County ranked #1 LaGrange #2 It would be a “road game” for the Grangers, in the state quarter finals. Most Ga. sportwriters agreed that these 2 teams were among the Top 5 in any classification. Grangers won. 49-0. Proceeded to win the AAA state title. Sounds like “rubbing salt in the wound”. But, facts are that Hart County trips and stumbles in the state play-offs every year. Why should this year be any different?

By devil lover

November 6, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

Hey NG17. What happened last year in the Norcross game? Everyone was expecting a much closer outcome.

By Eagle Forever

November 6, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

Northside-WR #1 beat Westside #6 22-12, which only had one loss to Baldwin #4 in overtime. Also, consider Westside’s first play/first touchdown was a trick play. After that they scored 5 points. Oh yes, they tried the trick play again later but failed. Westside has one of the best defenses in the state and Northside scored 22 while playing poorly on offense and special teams. Northside came off a 2 week layoff with a new quarterback, and a star running back with a bad ankle who did not practice. 22-12, not bad if you ask me. Northside is still #1 until someone proves otherwise on the field. Robert Davis and Westside could not do it, who’s next to try!

GO EAGLES

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

To: “Yo” Are you sitting back in the easy chair and smoking some of that same stuff again tonight? Watching “Dancing With The Stars”? Now “Yo”, you may be chilled out. But this is getting just a little bit ridiculous. As soon as the effects wear off, the world awaits your next obnoxious opinion. Tell us about your little bitty football team. Who is FAST!

By jerry06

November 6, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

why is lagrange ranked they are 7-2 smh

By mikefresh

November 6, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

SALMON1 thank you so much for agreeing that hart county is the greatest team in the state. good way to bring up 2001 hart county choked then and they will choke again this year, be it the frist round or second. hart was a pre season number 1 and they tied clarke central??? thene they struggle aganist weslyan?? as a pre season number one you should be able to go out and handle your bussiness aganist weaker teams like clarke central and weslyan. in order for hart county to have my respect they should have went 8-0 going into the stephens county game and given that they lost that game i would understand but they didnt so screw hart county. i hope no hart county fans get on here come next monday and brag about creaming jackson county. those are the types of teams that you handle your bussinesss with and move on to the next game. you should only talk smack when your team plays a good team and beats them. so hart county fans please blog when your team actualy plays up to thier potential

By mikefresh

November 6, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

SALMON1 thank you so much for agreeing that hart county isnt the greatest team in the state. good way to bring up 2001 hart county choked then and they will choke again this year, be it the frist round or second. hart was a pre season number 1 and they tied clarke central??? thene they struggle aganist weslyan?? as a pre season number one you should be able to go out and handle your bussiness aganist weaker teams like clarke central and weslyan. in order for hart county to have my respect they should have went 8-0 going into the stephens county game and given that they lost that game i would understand but they didnt so screw hart county. i hope no hart county fans get on here come next monday and brag about creaming jackson county. those are the types of teams that you handle your bussinesss with and move on to the next game. you should only talk smack when your team plays a good team and beats them. so hart county fans please blog when your team actualy plays up to thier potential

By will

November 6, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

what seed will the rayduzs get and who will they play. why didnt i crack your top five being the only walton rayduz fan. thanks by your fav eastcobb pollster will. Also go RAYDUZS

By NSHS FAN

November 6, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

TO: By Slalom 1, Thanks for the pep talk! I like your logic concerning NSWR chances of going the distance in AAAA. One thing I do realize is: NSWR still has a strong defense so if they can hold good teams to no more that 2-touchdowns, I beleve even with an inexperience Scott at QB they will continue to win. However, they must keep their defense off the field as much as possible; least they will wear them down. Quick threes and punt will kill even the best defense. From what I can see in the south AAAA region line-up, NSWR shouldn’t have much problem until the third round when they will probably play> Central Habersham, Salem, Rome or NW Whitfield. These teams still have games but two of them will play in the south region bracketed with NSWR. NSWR will have to go on the road in the 3rd round. All of these teams stadiums meet the minimum requirement to hold games on their turf.

By NSHS FAN

November 6, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

TO: By Slalom 1, Thanks for the pep talk! I like your logic concerning NSWR chances of going the distance in AAAA. One thing I do realize is: NSWR still has a strong defense so if they can hold good teams to no more that 2-touchdowns, I beleve even with an inexperience Scott at QB they will continue to win. However, they must keep their defense off the field as much as possible; least they will wear them down. Quick threes and punt will kill even the best defense. From what I can see in the south AAAA region line-up, NSWR shouldn’t have much problem until the third round when they will probably play> Central Habersham, Salem, Rome or NW Whitfield. These teams still have games but two of them will play in the south region bracketed with NSWR. NSWR will have to go on the road in the 3rd round. All of these teams stadiums meet the minimum requirement to hold games on their turf.

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

To: “Jerry06” Guess we will have to see. I have refrained from touting this Granger team too much in 2007. But, their 2 losses came against possibly THE best team in the state in any classification(Carver-Columbus), whom they played a very close game. The other loss came against a very good Shaw team, who may very well win it all in the end. The Grangers played like hotdogs in the first half against Shaw. But domintated in the 2nd half. “Jerry”, every now and then a team just plays a bad game. i.e. Lowndes vs. Harrison 2007, Valdosta vs. Brookwood 2007. But, in a re-match, the Grangers would tear Shaw apart. Do you understand the dynamics of Region 2AAA? VERY tough region. Do not count the Grangers out. AAA is going to be fun this year.

By mikefresh

November 6, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

NSHS FAN i really do fill for you and your team. you guy’s have had some tuf luck with your stud quaterback geting hurt. i love watching northside play i went to the dome last year and watched them play i couldnt belive haow good you guys are. i really hope that you guys can get him back for the playoffs because it just isnt fair that people may be counting you guys out because of his injury.

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

To: Mikefresh”, This is not intended to be sarcastic, but my handle is Slalom1, NOT Salmon1. Either way, not a problem. I answer to names much more objectionable. The “Slalom1” handle comes from my years of being a water skier. Still going after 30 years. But, the falls are much more difficult to get over. Still love to throw salmon on the grill for me and my babe! Good luck in the play-offs!

By northeast georgia guy

November 6, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

The excuse for Hart County losing to Stephens County is that SC is a good football team! I am impressed with how you guys have hung such large point totals on Gilmer, Pickens and some of the others. Surely you do not expect me to believe teams like these would beat anyone in our region. Hart’s JV team would handle these folks. And, by the way, you never did answer my question about what makes you such an expert. You certainly haven’t seen any championship caliber football at North Hall over the last 50 years to give YOU A CLUE! See you at the Brickyard in a couple of weeks. Better go ahead and put the air in the basketballs.

By NTH Trojans

November 6, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

lsalom 1,

I kinda went off a little on NE Ga Guy, but what in the heck is he thinking? I agree that NH has not played as tough of a schedule as I would like, but the schedule WAS made out before the region was split up into subregions. But it would be different if NH were just squeakingby in these games, but they are not. They are killing everybody. I’m not saying that it will continue, as a matter of fact, I think that with the bracket that they are in, there will be a lot of tight games. I fully expect the NH/LG game to be hard fought to the wire. I agree with you about NSWR, it’s a tough loss losing Ivory, but if they win it all, they can say that they did it without their best player. Just one question, were you the kicker in high school? I’m just wondering where the obsession with the kicking game and special teams comes from.

By NTH Trojans

November 6, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this

NE Ga Guy,

The reason that I know a championship caliber teams when I see them, is becouse I played on 2 state championship teams at Palmetto High School in the ‘80’s. Sohow many have you played on. Look in the games that you mentioned, our JV played the whole second half,our starters were out after the first quarter in most cases. You mention the weak teams, but you fail to mention Flowery Branch and Gainesville. If you think that they are pushovers, you’d be wrong again. Look, just admit that HC was overrated from the start and let it go.

By steven maxwell

November 6, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this

mikefresh you must be out your mind 7aaa is weak they finally get a little recegtion and you think they are state champs or something.north hall is a desent team that’s all gville fb and chestatee are weaker than any team in 8AAA.Stephens has beat down gville and chestatee in the last two years so i know for a fact they are weak and fb only has a quarterback that won’t be able to throw or run on against stephens or hart and nh won’t make it past hart in the second round of the playoffs and i’ll bet the house on that.

By Raiderbeater

November 6, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this

PAULDING COUNTY IS THE 4 SEED IN THEIR REGION ???????????? THEY ARE 2-7!!!!!!!

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this

To: TODD HOLCOMB, and ALL GHS FOOTBALL FANS, Todd, this blog has made you famous among GHS football fans. Here is an idea about giving back to those who have given to you. Here goes: “How about a BLOG appreciation party? This could be fun! Hold it the weekend of the Semi-finals, somewhere within walking distance of the “DOME”? Get the AJC involved. Motel room discounts, etc. This could become a huge annual event!And….make you even more of an icon! What I have just described is right out of the pages of NASCAR. Every year, this is what the NASCAR teams do for their fans. Why would this not work for the AJC? I would like to hear from ALL of the AJC, TODD HOLCOMB bloggers about this idea. (NO knives, guns, or nuclear weapons allowed).

By HoochDad

November 6, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this

Hey Knights Fan,

You might as well get used to the artificial turf. It’s here to stay, and as I recall, Centennial is getting it in the off-season this year. Out of 10 games this regular season, we only had two games on grass - the rest were on turf, and I doubt your season was much different. All of the Fulton County schools are changing over in the next few years, and all the new ones are being built with the turf installed.

You will be amazed at how much the turf field will be used. Our’s is in use from 4pm-9pm or later every weekday, all day and evening on Saturday, and much of the day on Sunday. Besides football and junior football, lacrosse and soccer, including boys, girls, and junior teams use it. The bands use it. No more staying off the field from May to August getting the grass green and then tearing it up again the first weekend in September. No more irrigation - hey, we’d all be playing on dirt next fall with the drought.

By northeast georgia guy

November 6, 2007 8:14 PM | Link to this

Glad you guys have a good JV team. Let’s hope that both teams survive the opening round so your powerhouse can take it easy on HC on Nov. 23. Oh yes, I played on one state championship team in a larger classification than you played in. And I have seen a game in each round of the playoffs including state championship games almost every year for more than 35 years. I did manage to see a few good teams play and some really lousy North Hall teams. Glad you guys are better! One other thing. Change the name of your stadium. The real Brickyard is in Thomson and you guys sure do NOT want to get tangled up with that bunch of Bulldogs. Good luck in the opening round. You will need it against all of the quickness you will see from Region 5.

By In the stands in Cobb County

November 6, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this

Comment on The Big Thun’s post

There is no doubt that Harrison’s football team has played great this season. A loss generally helps to focus a team that has a goal. Harrison will be a difficult play for anyone going forward and they have proved that throughout the year. I look for them to be around late in Decemeber.

North Cobb has faced the growing pains of being in the position for the first time. And they have not folded when they easily could have. Have they played their best game every game, not even close, well maybe against Kennesaw Mountain. Will they play to their potential through the playoff. I hope so.

But so many people on the posting sites think the only football worth watching is outside of cobb county. That’s a mistake, these two programs are fun to watch and I for one would love to see them in a rematch for the title.

By Reeze

November 6, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this

Slalom,well said.I could’nt have said it better myself.NHS and Ed NSHS don’t get discouraged about the offense against Westside.,Which i think has the best defense in AAAA, and a team that is underestimated by the rest of the state, and Westside is not Dutchtown or Jones Co.No team in AAAA has more speed on defense or more hard hitters as Westside,Burnett had to have double figure solo’s for the game.Our offense did a great job getting 22,dont throw in the towel.The players,Coaches and TRUE_ eagles fans haven’t

By North Cobb Fan

November 6, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this

Yes a Harrison-North Cobb rematch would be an excellent championship.

By devil lover

November 6, 2007 8:58 PM | Link to this

Hey NG17. I did some checking on our rivalry and since 2001 we have played four time and NG has only won one time by 3 pts. So tell me again besides your big defensive linemen and good quarterback, but makes you think this is NG’s year to win?

By mikefresh

November 6, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this

STEVEN MAXWELL

By mikefresh

November 6, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

STEVEN MAXWELL

YOU HAVE EITHER GOT TO BE DRUNK OR HIGH WHICH ONE? BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY AND I REPEAT NO WAY THAT HART COUNTY WOULD OR WILL FIND A WAY TO BEAT NORTH HALL. I SUGGERST YOU GO TO GEORGIA PUBLIC BROADCASTING.COM AND GO TO PREP SPORTS PLUS LINK AND GO TO PAST SHOWS AN DTHEN GO BACK AND LOOK AT LAST WEEKS SHOW IF FEATURES NORTH HALL AND IT HAS AN INTERVIEW WITH COACH CHIRTSMAS I BELIVE AND THEY TALK TO THE BROTHERS THAT ARE TWINS. ONES A RUNING BACK AND THE OTHER IS A LINEBACKER IF IM WRONG PLEASE CORRECT ME. BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT HART COUNTY IS OVERRATED AND HAS BEEN SINCE WEEK ONE.GOSH YOUR RUNNING BACK TEALSEY IS DECENT AND CURRY IS QUICK BUT THATS IT YOU SAW WHAT POOLE DID TO YOU GUYS AND THE QUATERBACK FOR NORTH HALL WILL DO THE SAME. ATLEAST FLOWERY BRANCH AND G-VILLE WERE BOTH RANKED AT SOME PIOINT IN THE SEASON ALONG WITH NORTH HALL UNLIKE 8-AAA WHERE ALL YOU HAVE HAD SINCE WEEK ONE IS STEPHENS COUNTY AND HART THATS IT. JAYBOW SHAW AND HIS BROTHER CONNER SHAW WILL EAT YOU GUYS ALIVE JAYBOW IS QUICKER THAN MOST OF YOUR SECONDARY.

By slalom1

November 6, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this

To: “NTH Trojans” Funny you should ask. Back when I was playing the game, I never gave much thought to the kicker. And….I was not the kicker. But later in life, I began to realize what a difference a good defense, good special teams, AND a good kicker could make. When I was 27 years old, my little brother(who was a sprinter at Auburn at the time) would run track together in the summers. We would compete at the “all-comers” meets at Lovett in Atlanta on Thursdays, then at Auburn U on Saturdays.) Once the summer track season was over, we were bored, and for lack of anything better to do, gave placekicking a shot. My younger brother was a much better athlete than me. He could NAIL a 45 yard field goal against the wind, and could occasionally hit one from 50-60 yds(not soccer style). As for me, I was not bad, but neither was I that good. 35 to 45 yds, was my range. My obsession with the kicking game comes from simply doing the math, when it comes down to what it takes to win a game. Defense is a big part of what it takes. Suppose you have a “kick-off” guy who can put it in the end zone every time. The opposing team starts at their own 20. They go 3 and out. They DO NOT have a kicking game. Following a punt, Your team gets the ball at the 50 or maybe at your opponents’ 40. You have a short field to work. If your team only makes 1 first down, they are in range for a kicker who can hit a 45 yd field goal. Then, the process repeats itself. The game becames one of field possession, and the team with the best defense and kicking game wins. Lots of games are won like this.

By NTH Trojans

November 6, 2007 9:54 PM | Link to this

NE Ga Guy,

I don’t know about Thomson, but North Hall has been in existence for 50 years. So unless Thomson has been around longer than that, then I guess that we will stick with it. Oh hell, we’ll keep it anyway. talking about lame, your mascot is the bulldog, you couldn’t come up with a mascot outside of Georgia? by the way, if you’ll look, I believe that NH is ranked a little bit higher than Thomson. You talk about NH needs to watch out for the speed of McNair, trust me, we have plenty of team speed ourselves. You better hope that you don’t have to play Sandy Creek in the opening, because that WR of theirs will eat HC alive. As for as your State Championship, what team and year. I’ve seen championship games from Lincoln Co to Valdosta to Villa Rica. Just one more question, have you seen NH play this year? Because this is not the team that was the doormat of the ’90s. So, if you can make it through the first round without choking, then we will be more than happy to kick your butts all the home. slalom, what you are sayingabout the special teams and kicking makes sense, I just never thought of it quite that way. Good thing about it, we do have a kicker that can put it in the end zone 7out of 10 times. He can hit from 40+ yards too (as long as he doesn’t pull his head up at the point of contact).

By NTH Trojans

November 6, 2007 10:04 PM | Link to this

steven maxwell,

ARE YOU DRUNK? SC has not played Gainesville, Chestatee, or Flowery Branch in the last 2 years. Maybe their JV, but not varsity. Man, you need to get your facts straight and your spelling and grammar right before you come talking trash. But, you will get to face FB in the second round. Enjoy it, because I don’t think SC will get by Carver,Columbus. As for Hart Co, they better that they lose in the first round, because North Hall is gonna put those puppies BACK ON THE PORCH if they make it to the second round.

By mikefresh

November 6, 2007 10:13 PM | Link to this

NTH TROJANS

thank you lol what is steven maxwell thinking??? i asked him if he was high or drunk he must be to think that hart is goin to beat north hall there anit no way in hell that hart comes to north hall and beats them i told him that those twin brothers that ya’ll have are the real deal i guess he’ll have to find out the hard way lol

By Todd Holcomb

November 6, 2007 10:35 PM | Link to this

TODD HOLCOMB, and ALL GHS FOOTBALL FANS, Todd, this blog has made you famous among GHS football fans. Here is an idea about giving back to those who have given to you. Here goes: “How about a BLOG appreciation party? This could be fun! Hold it the weekend of the Semi-finals, somewhere within walking distance of the “DOME”? Get the AJC involved. Motel room discounts, etc. This could become a huge annual event!And….make you even more of an icon! What I have just described is right out of the pages of NASCAR. Every year, this is what the NASCAR teams do for their fans. Why would this not work for the AJC? I would like to hear from ALL of the AJC, TODD HOLCOMB bloggers about this idea. (NO knives, guns, or nuclear weapons allowed).

Great idea, but perhaps a logistics nightmare. We’ve already had one Slalom1 imposter on this blog, and I thought we were going to have a lawsuit over the rights to the handle Cougar Mom. How can confirm the identities?

By Todd Holcomb

November 6, 2007 10:36 PM | Link to this

TODD HOLCOMB, and ALL GHS FOOTBALL FANS, Todd, this blog has made you famous among GHS football fans. Here is an idea about giving back to those who have given to you. Here goes: “How about a BLOG appreciation party? This could be fun! Hold it the weekend of the Semi-finals, somewhere within walking distance of the “DOME”? Get the AJC involved. Motel room discounts, etc. This could become a huge annual event!And….make you even more of an icon! What I have just described is right out of the pages of NASCAR. Every year, this is what the NASCAR teams do for their fans. Why would this not work for the AJC? I would like to hear from ALL of the AJC, TODD HOLCOMB bloggers about this idea. (NO knives, guns, or nuclear weapons allowed).

Great idea, but perhaps a logistics nightmare. We’ve already had one Slalom1 imposter on this blog, and I thought we were going to have a lawsuit over the rights to the handle Cougar Mom. How do we confirm the identities?

By NSWR Fan

November 6, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this

Has any one seen TCC play this year? I keep hearing about their running game, and how they have a running back that is the best in the state. Just wanting to get some ones opionion that has seen them play.

By yo

November 6, 2007 10:49 PM | Link to this

Slalom….hello from Lafayette, La.

Been out to Beaumont and Pt. Arthur, Texas today where they say people play some football, but I haven’t seen or heard anybody there talking it so I guess not. Been on the road and working, something I have to do sometimes. I also have to be at the airport at 5 a.m. so I’m not feeling any obnoxious comments at the moment. Maybe in the morning around 4 a.m. when I have to get up I’ll feel more like it. I do know this, I am ready for some playoffs and ready to see whose all talk and whose really got game. Good night!

By yo

November 6, 2007 10:54 PM | Link to this

I haven’t seen TCC play this year but I do remember Mr. Smiley their running back from the Lowndes/TCC preseason scrimmage in 2006 and all I know is he was quite a handful then, so he must be even more so now. A big back who will bust your chops. Also has pretty good speed for his size.

By 5A observer

November 6, 2007 11:02 PM | Link to this

A few points to ponder. First off, I am sure Harrison would like a rematch vs NC much like NC would have liked one last year after blowing a 17 point lead. I believe that they would have loved to play Harrison again later that year in the middle of that three game collapse. Having been there as a player and a coach, seeding and how the brackets fall is huge. Very few teams are talented enough just to run through whomever is placed in front of them five straight weeks. Matchups are key, and it doesnt hurt to get a few calls and bounces your way. Experience is overrated, I dont remember Roswell and PR being perenial powerhouses year in and year out. Anyway, all of this speculation is pointless, so why am I even posting this?

By Roger

November 6, 2007 11:34 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans, I personally would like to see all NEGA teams do well; I think that 7-AAA and 8-AAA will each have one team reach the dome that being NH and SC. As far as SC beating Chestatee they did beat them in the first round of the playoffs two years ago the score was 49-0; I was at the game. I don’t know why people want to bring up the past, because it will have no effect on this year. I personally would like to see all of you fans of NEGA teams pull together and hope to see as many teams do well as possible so that we can finally get the respect we deserve. Go SC, NH, HC, FB and the rest of the NEGA AAA powers.

By Scott

November 7, 2007 12:04 AM | Link to this

A question for some expert out there. Class A region 7and 5, out of these 4 teams Twiggs,ELCA,Wilkinson and Whitfield how would you rank them ? Lic.,FCS,Warren and Landmark being the top 4 not in any order.

By steven maxwell

November 7, 2007 12:31 AM | Link to this

Well for the dummy who does’nt know by now i’am a indian who just stay’s in gwinnett and we did beat the sh$&t out of chestatee 2yrs ago and gville in the scrimage game 35-0 with our jv in the second half but like roger said that’s the past and this is now but. U must just started keeping up on that sorry region.As for the rest of you none belivers stepens county will be in the dome and i hope we meet up with fb cause my nephew poole is going to have a field day on that weak defense of thers’s and we gone break jaybow shaw up just ask his daddy he coached me at stephens county any way.mikefresh who you pulling for to me it looks like your stradling the fence a little and as for nth trogan you better hope yall weak butts get past hart and lagrange or thomson before you want to see the poole party get it poole party.

By jerry06

November 7, 2007 12:43 AM | Link to this

To slalom1: yea that actually make sense, but i stll think chamblee in 4B 3A has a good chance if they didnt have key injuries they should be undefeated still. Hopefully they will be ready to go for the playoffs.

By graysonfan

November 7, 2007 1:13 AM | Link to this

devilfan, you keep adding to the end of your blog, The grayson score. well you must respect them in someway, or you would not keep bragging on it. you guys beat grayson in one area of the game, and im sure alot of teams have had a hard time controlling the 2 d-1 recivers you have there, guess what, dont expect such a lop sided score this time. and really stop refering to that game from the past and stats from 5 years ago. im sure you know, none of those players are even there anymore.

By NG17

November 7, 2007 6:26 AM | Link to this

DEVIL LOVER. What happen to Norcross in the Playoffs and who went deeper. Who cares about the game this Friday. Norcross will not beat Grayson again and will go out in the 2nd round if they do win Friday.North Gwinnett will win against Norcross for years to come . Just look at the youth teams and Norcross future is Duluth.

By mikefresh

November 7, 2007 6:30 AM | Link to this

STEVEN MAXWELL

im pulling for habersham central but since im from north georgia i do watch other teams and habersham did play stephens county i must admit that we did give you a better game than hart gave you, and poole is the real deal. i cant wait to watch him in college at ut. but the comments about hart county are just crazy, you actually think hart county has a chance in the playoffs???? you must be smoking that good s** or something cuz hart is not balanced enough to run there offense when they will be seeing all kinds of blitzing and zones.

By devil lover

November 7, 2007 7:56 AM | Link to this

NG17. Why won’t we beat Grayson again…Grayson has never beaten us.

Do you want to talk about this year’s basketball. I understand that NG is suppose to be Norcross’ main competition this year. What say you.

By Viking

November 7, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

We Lowndes Viking fans down here in small town Valdosta are just thankful to have somehow made the playoffs and to get any mention at all. It is a miracle that we will get to play an 11th game. People have definitely overrated us, just a small bunch of underclassmen. Just to be able to possibly get on the field with those great Atlanta area teams is a high honor for us, and we are humbled. Just pray for us that somehow we won’t embarrass our region too much with our performance.

By Metro ATL

November 7, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

To Viking: There is no doubt your team is one of the elite programs in the state year in and year out. You guys also have Valdosta the most storied program in the nation. In past years your region would no doubt be ranked #1 however the rankings are based off of this year. There is only you Valdosta and throw in Coffee if you want to. Colquitt is not the program it usually is. And look at the rest of your region Your #4 seed Tift Co should end region play with a .500 record and 6-4 mark over all. After that everyone is have a terrible year. WR, Col Co. , Houston Co. have a combined record of 6-21.

As someone said previously way up in the post I still think you guys should be the #2 rated region this year. And I have you guys going to the dome. So there is respect for you folks down on the border. But you must admit it is a down year for your region.

By devil lover

November 7, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Fan17. I am surprise that you don’t know your facts. Last year both NG and Norcross made it to the quarter finals where NG was beaten by Tift 13-0 and Norcross was beaten by Warner Robins 14-3.

By Cougar Mom

November 7, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this

Original Cougar Mom - Are you my alter-twin???? lol

My birthday is the following saturday! Happy early birthday…what a WONDERFUL present that would be for the boys to win one for you!

Our boys are playing for County Braggin rights this friday night. We play Douglas county who is in the playoffs regardless of win or loss this friday. There are 4 schools in the county and we have beat the other two already - just as DC has…so this is for County Braggin Rights. Logistically, we are out of the playoffs but we could - COULD end the season with the same record as the 4th place team and that would be our own little regional championship for us. Our program is in rebuilding mode and our boys have come a LONG way. We couldn’t be more proud of them…and we are going for it all this friday.

Cougars are hunting Tigers…..GATA!

Good luck to our twin school Chattahoochee Cougars this friday as well :)

By Carswell

November 7, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

how would you rank all teams across classes. would some some AAA/AA/A rank higher than AAAAA/AAAA teams.

Like is Buford better than Valdosta or North Hall (Gainesville) better than Tucker?

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 7, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this

cougar mom how sweet of you! thanks so much. yeah, it’s all or nothing Friday night. we are playing at Milton so i’m sure they are ready for us. it really just boils down to who wants it more and a great game. of course i have all the faith in the world for our boys, they will do great!

Happy birthday to you as well!(you and my nephew share the same day).

I wish you all the luck in the world and I hope that you get your bragging rights! Good luck to you and your boys!!!

GO COUGARS!!!!

By Cougar Moms....Not

November 7, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

I think the Cougar Mom and Original Cougar Mom are really Dads.

By YellowJacketFan

November 7, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

In Response to:

By LK Having seen both Centenial and Chattahootchie play I can honestly say I NEVER would have called this upset. Hootch was simply a far superior team in all aspects of the game. But upsets happen, so there’s nothing left to do but to take care of your business on the field and hope for the best. It is unfortunate for Hootch that the subregion has three high quality teams, which fortunately for Sprayberry, is one more than the other subregion has.

Did you not notice that Sprayberry DESTROYED your Golden Child Centeniel 27-7…SHS had over 400 yards offense and could have scored a two times more, but the coaches didn’t want to run the score up. SHS started the season off slow, with SEVEN starters out with season ending injuries and a new coaching staff, it took some time to get this team rolling. Please don’t think for a second that Sprayberry is not worthy of playing in the State Play Offs. I’m very confident that anyone that watches SHS on film will have a bit of respect for the way this team has played and the improvements this team has made. Just my humble opinion!

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 7, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this

**i wish i were a dad sometimes then i would understand football better and not depend on my “football for dummies”… thanks for the chuckle.

GO COUGARS!!!!!!!

By northeast georgia guy

November 7, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

To North Hall Guy,

I have not seen the Trojans play. I am told by friends in the Gainesville area that it is a very good North Hall team. But that is where the lack of credibility comes into play. Because other than the one fluke of a year (was it 2003?) with the recruited RB, North Hall teams have never been anything but average at best. Maybe this year is the exception and they will make all your on-line hype good.

That is the harsh truth though! Whether you are ready to admit it or not, I have my doubts. But the playoffs will eventually tell the tale.

And, just for the record, I am not a Hart County graduate or serious Bulldogs fan. I like to see Northeast Georgia teams do well—except when someone like you becomes so arrogant about their team and seems to be such an expert on Georgia HS football that it irritates me.

By the way, you really showed your lack of knowledge of Georgia HS football with the comment about Thomson (which I did not graduate from there either). The Brickyard has been in existence for more than your 50 years that North Hall has been around. Those Bulldogs have won 5 state championships with players such as Ray Guy, Jerry Mays, Danny Verdun, Casper Brinkley. And I have seen them play. Better hope the Trojans stay away from Thomson!

By the way, how is Trojan basketball looking for this year?

By tj

November 7, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

I think Camden County better not overlook Tift County. Tift County played Valdosta Very well and our offence seems to be coming into stride, hopefully at the right time. The only thing I have to say is only time will tell.

By Tipp Smooth

November 7, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Todd, It’s Tipp Smooth once again. Seems as if everyone is sleeping on Camden after their mishap with Chattahoocie. Camden will be in the hunt, beware.

By D.S.G.B.

November 7, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1 before I get started I wish I could be there to see you eat crow!! The Syrupmaker’s are ready to roll and If everything goes as I plan We will see Shaw in the 2nd RD.From there I see semifinals and a great chance for State Championship. Don’t let the regions fool you.

By KSShake

November 7, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

There are a lot of things I want to address: This region ranking is ridiculous and the only reason you don’t have many disagree is because the fans of the teams and regions you favor are the ones that respond to this more. Region 6 #2! You’ve got to be kidding Walton, Chattahoochee, Roswell, Centennial, same region as Kell, Pope, Alpharetta and Lassiter. You’ve got to kidding man, are you serious. Other than Roswell, none of these teams have beaten ANYONE to talk about or to justify this, Roswell loses to them every now and then because of bordom, rivalry, and familiarity. The only reason I let you have region 5 AAAAA only because in my opinion the region was stronger last season (in my opinion). North Cobb has caught lightening in a bottle (for now) but I think the truth will come out when these teams (all of them) step out of their respective regions. Remeber some regions and school districts are hamstrung by school boards and athletic departments that don’t allow them to really get out and see whats really happening with these “Fluff Newspaper-Made Powerhouses” that in reality haven’t beat anyone but the neighborhood tough guy with a rep. Fact is Marietta’s down, McEachern’s down, South Cobb isn’t as good as they have been, neither is Campbell, I can’t recall Etowah beating anyone of any significance outside of there area. Let me get this straight, region 6 AAAAA is your #2 region and Sprayberry yes SPRAYBERRY is gonna be one of there reprsentitives. The credibility of rankings (teams, regions, or otherwise) is becoming more and more suspect. As I’ve said before this is no more than a forum and a platform to bump up the school’s and areas Todd seems to favor. Couldn’t quite justify region 7 with the 3 Forsyth’s and Duluth. Man I can go on and on. But watch out for Brookwood, they’ve got the back, the line, the coaching, and the tough enough regular season schedule. But I sincerely hope ML King, Stephenson, or Douglass can make some noise and finally bring one home because its so obvious and apparent that “certain people” don’t want these majority black schools, from predominantly black communities to have “crowning” success. Yea, yea I know before you even remind me yall ranked Stephenson #1 for a week. I just wish one day Stephenson and even Douglass could get coaching and facilites that compare to the other schools. Cedar Grove is another school that needs better coaching. But I just wanna see what the response would be like “mediawise” if one of these teams did win. By the way watch for your beloved Norcross to beat your even “MORE” beloved North Gwinnett again. And I’ll admit this, Harrison (even though I don’t pull for them) is always one of the best coached teams in the state because they consistently show an ability to compete with anyone.

By NTH Trojans

November 7, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

NE Ga Guy,

1) I did not say that North Hall had been around longer, I just simply stated how long NH had been here, and asked if Thomson had been around longer.

2) North Hall made it to the Quarterfinals, where we were defeated by WACO.

3) This years’ team is extremely better on both sides of the ball (especially defense) than last years’ team.

4) I wasn’t being arrogant, just stating facts that everybody on this blog, with the exception of you and steven maxwell, seem to agree with.

5) Until you have seen a team play, don’t be so quick to count them out. Ihave seen HC and SC play, that’s where I base my conclusions from.

6) You still haven’t told me what team you were on that won a state championship and what year.

7) I’m still pulling for all NE Ga teams to do well in the playoffs, until they meet NH. The better NE Ga teams do in the playoffs, the more respect other areas in the state will give them.

8) All the other AAA schools in NE Ga will be concentrating on basketball before North Hall, bet on it.

9) I know that North Hall football has not always been at the top of the food chain, but it’s a new era now, get used to it. Oh, and the RB that you’re referring to is T J Pitts. He wasn’t recruited, he transferred in the middle of his sophomore year,* after* football season was over. He now attends Memphis. The difference between NH and most of the schools up here is thst we have a booster club roughly the size of most AAAAA teams.

By NHS senior

November 7, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

TCC can’t be a top team,and they don’t even play in a division that has all crappy teams in AAAA and bainbridge is the only worthy team and they don’t stand a chance against the top teams in AAAA.

By SouthGARules

November 7, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

I’m just curious to find out how Brookwood will wet the bed in the playoffs as they do every year (except 1996). They are the most overhyped overrated program in AAAAA except for Stephenson. Stephenson turns out all these fine D1 prospects but can’t get it done in the playoffs.

By slalom1

November 7, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

To:”Viking”, GREAT post! Don’t believe that any of the BIG Atlanta area fans caught your sarcasm.”Poor little Valdosta.”“Poor little Lowndes”. He,he he. The schools there have so little to work with. I am SURE they feel fortunate just to play an 11th game. HE,he, he. Region 1AAAAA may be down as a whole this season. But only one team wins the big one. In AAAAA, my money is on Lowndes.

By Metro ATL guy

November 7, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

I think Brookwood has the easiest route to the Dome of anyteam out there.

Possible teams they would have to go through rd.1 Sprayberry ( tough LOL )

rd.2 Norcross,Marietta,N.G. (all known playoff chokers)

rd.3 I would assume either E. Cowetta Coffee, Jenkins, or Luella

That puts them in the Dome most likely against Harrison, however Walton, Valdosta or MLK could come out of the top half.

Either way they have the easiest route there. It’s there bracket to blow

By slalom1

November 7, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

To:”D.S.G.B.” Just checking to see if the syrup people were listening. On a serious note, the Shaw Raiders will be the most difficult #2 seed in the state this year. Do not really know much about Cairo, but they will have to bring some game to play with Raiders.

By NC Fan

November 7, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

Well I know NC does not have the tradition and history that Lowndes does, however they are having a great season and if things work out I would love to see them match up against Lowndes in the 3rd round.

It would be fun watch… I have all the respect in the world for Lowndes.

I just hope our boys don’t let the pressure of the play-offs get to them. They have a ton of talent and can compete with anyone in the state.

Best of luck to all.

By NTH Trojans

November 7, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

slalom 1,

Rest assured, it will be North Hall/LaGrange and Shaw in the semis. I personally think it will be NH vs Carver in the finals. I know that you are hoping for an all 2AAA final, but I’ve just got a feeling. How about that guy giving NH crap, and he hasn’t even seen them play. what do you think about the East Coweta/Newnan game this weekend? Any predictions?

By NTH Trojans

November 7, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

yo,

Can you give me the website where I can view some of Lowndes highlights? I saw them play either last year or the year before in the dome (don’t remember which), but haven’t seen them play this year.

By yo

November 7, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

NTH…You can google Lowndes High Vikings but I don’t know if there are any highlights.

By yo

November 7, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

As I stated earlier, Tift will be a tough matchup for any one to have to take on in the first round. If Coffee can find a little more defense, so will they be also. A bold prediction, 1AAAAA (with its down year) will have at least 3 teams go past the second round. If Tift should upset Camden (and do not be surprised if they do) then make it 4.

By Roger

November 7, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans, I kinda like your semi/finals prediction except I would of liked it better if you had said that the finals would have been an all NEGA final like NH vs SC. I don’t know about NH but SC needs to look forward to a possible finals apperance because their basketball team will be bad. Good luck NH in the upcoming playoffs hope to see you guys in the finals. “GO INDIANS”

By D.S.G.B.

November 7, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

slalom1, The Syrup-people are alive and well and just getting ready for the play-offs. First we get some payback on Wash Co and Shaw. Then anbody who wants to get stuck in the Syrup.Are you from Columbus??

By Irish Fan

November 7, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

Well It’s finally here; the awaited arrival of Dublin/Dodge!! We’ll see if the rankings are right. Dublin better bring there “A” game!!!

By slalom1

November 7, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

To:”NTH Trojans”, You are probably close on the AAA play-off picture. As for Newnan vs. East Coweta… Both of these schools are in my backyard. LHS played in the same region for many years. My thoughts are that this may be THE weakest region in AAAAA. AAA Carrollton puts the wood to Newnan EVERY year. Usually, not even close. In 2006, AA Buford came to East Coweta’s house and took home a 35-7 win. Bottom line is, probably East Coweta. But in the BIG picture, do not believe that either team will make much noise in the AAAAA play-offs. In 2004, Newnan was ranked #2 in AAAAA. LaGrange was ranked #1 in AAA. They played on National television to kick off the 2004 season.(Both teams were nationally ranked.) Grangers won 35-7. (This Newnan team was a AAAAA semi-finalist in 2003, and returned virtually their entire team for 2004 .) This is not to infer that Newnan and East Coweta do not have some game. But, they would have great difficulty competing against the top teams in AAA, AAAA, and probably AA.

By subregionsuck

November 7, 2007 7:44 PM | Link to this

Sprayberry beat Centeniel 27-7 in the beginning of the season…when centenial absoutly sucked (they lost to pope) they wernt developed yet (new coachs, new offence, new everything) i believe that they are now fully developed and it will be a shame that one of the three 6B teams wont go to the playoffs while Sprayberry does…

when sprayberry does get into the playoffs they should feel damn guilty and pray they dont get beat to bad in the first round

By NTH Trojans

November 7, 2007 7:57 PM | Link to this

slalom,

I’ve been away watching LG highlights. Great team speed on defense, exceptional special teams, the only possible problems that i saw was from the D-line. They don’t always wrap up the ball carrier. But that is the ONLY weakness that Ihave seen thus far. As for as East Coweta/ Newnan goes, I saw EC play Hiram a couple of weeks ago, and they didn’t impress me. The only thing that I saw that was positive is their kick returner. Roger, I would LOVE to see an all NE Ga final, but I was watching some of the Carver highlights, and Ijust don’t know if Poole get break loose. Iknow that he is a great back, but their team speed on defense is amazing. Hopefully he can, and we can have the final up here in NE Ga.

By Roger

November 7, 2007 8:11 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans, Where did you see those highlights I would like to see some film on this team. How do see Hab Central doing in the AAAA playoffs? I don’t know if they are on your side of the playoff bracket but I would like to see NH face Thomson so that they can see what the real brickyard is all about; I went to the SC and NH playoff game about four years ago and it is a tough place to play. By the way you need to let the powers that be know that they need to increase the visitors seating; I had to stand the whole game other than that it was a great atmospher.

By northeast georgia guy

November 7, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this

Calling a truce. Will get back with you after the playoffs get underway. Let’s see who the survivors are and then talk. Best teams will step forward.

By northeast georgia guy

November 7, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this

North Hall guy:

Calling a truce. Will get back with you after the playoffs get underway. Let’s see who the survivors are and then talk. Best teams will step forward.

By NTH Trojans

November 7, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this

Roger, The clips that I saw were actually on another website. Go to [www.langrangefootball.com] and click on videos. They have film on LaGrange, Shaw, and Carver, Columbus. As for as Hab Central goes, I think that they have a pretty good shot at winning it all. I haven’t had the chance to look at the AAAA brackets yet, but based on what I’ve seen, I think that they have as good of a chance as anyone. With Ivory out for NSWR, it opens up the AAAA championship to a lot of different teams, including NSWR, Hab Central, Tucker, East Paulding, Fayette Co, and most inportantly TCC.

By NTH Trojans

November 7, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

NE Ga Guy,

I can handle a truce. Good luck to ALL NE Ga teams in the playoffs, also to all teams in 2AAA.

Roger, The seating problem has been fised at North Hall, we got tired of losing potential home games after we had to go to WACO last year. It was supposed to be a coin toss, but because we didn’t have the seating capacity, the game automaically went to WACO. The plans are to brick it in all the way around.

By observer

November 8, 2007 12:07 AM | Link to this

nhs senior do not talk about teams that you know nothing about. TCC out of all teams in AAAA has the best shot at winning state this year. They have the best rushing game than any other team in AAAA. They can pass good enough to keep you on your toes, they have play action pass that will burn you if you are not careful. On defense they are very fast and physical. TCC can play with any team in AAAA. Don’t let their region fool you. TCC is the real deal.

By Reeze

November 8, 2007 7:50 AM | Link to this

Yo,Lowndes will be the only survivor from 1-AAAAA after round 2 this year.And all you AAA fans look out for the Perry Panthers, since Casey Hayward’s return from his shoulder injury that offense has been clicking on all cylinders!

By Cougar Mom

November 8, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

To: Cougar moms…..not

I am used to not being taken seriously in conversations about football / sports. While I will concede that I cannot talk football from the prosepctive of a former player as most of these Dads can….I assure you that I was born, bred, eat, sleep and even bleed the game of football and I am a MOM. I can also hold my own in the crowd when it comes to baseball - although I will readily admit that was a forced education because my son loves the sport and while I can enjoy a good baseball game - I would prefer watching a football game :)

Tell you what, come out to Alexander High School (in Douglas County)this friday night, at the top of the home bleachers sitting on the brick courtyard, right on the 50 yard line - look for the woman that appears to be possessed and is wildly screaming her head off between flahsing the poster that says “GATA!” and taking pictures….that will be me :)

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 8, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

cougar mom yes we were separated at birth. i am the same mom in the same spot (50 yard line) just in a different county!!!

Good luck to you and your boys tomorrow!

GO COUGARS!!!!

By GwinnettFan

November 8, 2007 9:45 AM | Link to this

SouthGaRules

Take it easy. Brookwood was not even ranked in the top 10 until this week.

On the other hand, there was a South Georgia loss to Harrison, and, oh yes, another inconvenient loss to Brookwood.

I guess that’s why the games are played.

By Cougar Mom

November 8, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Original Cougar Mom…we need to do lunch :)

Good luck to your boys too! Get a big sign that says “All I want for my birthday is a WIN!” :)

Go Cougars!!!

By dekalb finest

November 8, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this

Todd what are dekalbs chances in the playoffs with tucker, MLK, and stephenson

By North Metro

November 8, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Dekalb Fan

Stephenson and MLK should both make it to the 2nd round where there luck will probablly run out. With a bad luck of the draw.

Stephenson will face Lowndes in Rd.2

MLK will face Valdosta.

Now MLK might be able to get through that and if they do they would more than likely face a tough Harrison team.

I see no way Stephenson beats Lowndes.

By HSballfan

November 8, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Todd is already on record as saying Tucker can’t win because it has no passing game. But a look at the brackets would suggest that Tucker has perhaps the best shot at getting to the dome of any of the #1 seeds. Tucker’s seemingly one dimensional offense will be less a factor than their defense which is capable of winning games. And Tucker did appear to be warming up the short passing game last week against North Springs. I expect them to throw more against Cedar Grove on Saturday.

MLK and Stephenson have played just well enough to win against some pretty mediocre competition.

By SouthGARules

November 8, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

GwinnettFan:

You are wrong. Brookwood was ranked early in the season before losing their first 2 games. Yes, Brookwood did beat Valdosta & Harrison beat Lowndes & Chattahoochee beat Camden County. However, the playoffs are a different story. Every year Brookwood is supposed to be the team to beat & usually they find a way to lose or get drilled in the state finals. (Warner Robins in 88, Lowndes in 04, Parkview in 01 or 02)

By NC Fan

November 8, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

NC move up to #43 in the country… GO WARRIORS….

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By Todd Holcomb

November 8, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

*A question for some expert out there. Class A region 7and 5, out of these 4 teams Twiggs, ELCA, Wilkinson and Whitfield how would you rank them ? Lic.,FCS,Warren and Landmark being the top 4 not in any order. *

Twiggs & Wilkinson are significantly better than ELCA & Whitfield, in my opinion.

how would you rank all teams across classes. would some some AAA/AA/A rank higher than AAAAA/AAAA teams. Like is Buford better than Valdosta or North Hall (Gainesville) better than Tucker?

I think Buford can play with AAAAA teams, but I think the top 12-15 teams would usually beat the Wolves, and that includes Valdosta. But I do think Buford could win. I think North Hall would be a Top 10 team in AAAA. I’d favor Tucker to win over North Hall, but it could be close. Stephens County, the No. 3 team in AAA, has beaten Habersham Central, the No. 5 in AAAA, if that gives you indication.

* It’s Tipp Smooth once again. Seems as if everyone is sleeping on Camden after their mishap with Chattahoocie. Camden will be in the hunt, beware.*

Welcome back, Mr. Smooth. I agree about Camden. The reason the ‘Cats don’t show up in the rankings is because I base them strictly on results, and when you lost to a team that’s no longer in the Top 10 and you haven’t beaten a Top 10 team to compensate, then it’s tough to get back in. But Camden is on the bubble of being ranked and is clearly a threat to do damage in the playoffs.

Todd what are dekalbs chances in the playoffs with tucker, MLK, and stephenson

I’d have to agree with DeKalb Fan, who wrote: Stephenson and MLK should both make it to the 2nd round where there luck will probablly run out. With a bad luck of the draw. Stephenson will face Lowndes in Rd.2. MLK will face Valdosta. Now MLK might be able to get through that and if they do they would more than likely face a tough Harrison team. I see no way Stephenson beats Lowndes.

I think Stephenson has a better shot at beating Lowndes than Dfan thinks, but I favor Lowndes.

Todd is already on record as saying Tucker can’t win because it has no passing game. But a look at the brackets would suggest that Tucker has perhaps the best shot at getting to the dome of any of the #1 seeds.

Good point.

By Todd Holcomb

November 8, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

KSShake: This region ranking is ridiculous and the only reason you don’t have many disagree is because the fans of the teams and regions you favor are the ones that respond to this more. Region 6 #2! You’ve got to be kidding Walton, Chattahoochee, Roswell, Centennial, same region as Kell, Pope, Alpharetta and Lassiter. You’ve got to kidding man, are you serious. Other than Roswell, none of these teams have beaten ANYONE to talk about or to justify this.

Good point about Kell, Pope, Lassiter, Alpharetta, but Region 6 has 12 teams compared to 8 in Region 6. One of my main criteria on ranking regions was how hard it is to make the playoffs in each region. To that end, those bottom feeders in Region 6 are irrelevant, because you’ve still got 8 teams above them that are in the playoff hunt. In Region 2, there are really only 5 teams to worry about.

But let’s also take a closer look at Region 2 and Region 6 because I think it would be hard for anyone to consider Region 2 to be the better region when you consider the games played and their results and throw out our own personal biases:

Region 2’s current #3 team, Luella, lost to the #5 team in Region 8, Berkmar, 22-8.

Luella also lost 26-0 to Stockbridge, a team that will not make the playoffs in a lower classification.

Douglass, the #4 team from Region 2, lost to Westlake, a team that is 4-5 and won’t make the playoffs in a lower classification.

Redan, still a contender for a playoff spot, lost to Creekside, a team from a lower classification that is tied for fourth in its region. Redan also beat a AAA team with a 2-7 record (North Atlanta) by the close score of 12-7.

MLK has a pair of one-point victories against region opponents that have lost to unranked teams in lower classifications.

Stephenson has a one-point win over a region opponent that has lost to an unranked team in another classification.

So, how can I look at these facts and still conclude that this is a strong region?

Also note that MLK lost 28-0 last season in the playoffs to a team that Roswell then beat 42-21. Last year doesn’t matter, unless nothing has happened in 2007 to suggest things are different.

Now let’s look at Region 6.

Roswell is a defending state champion that returned 17 starters and was the unanimous No. 1 team in preseason. Roswell has beaten Region 8’s champion, Brookwood.

Chattahoochee has beaten Roswell and the Region 3 champion, Camden County, both on the road.

Walton has beaten Roswell and played No. 2 North Gwinnett close on the road (21-16).

Northview, the last-place team in its subregion of Region 6, defeated Mill Creek – a playoff team from Region 7 that defeated Peachtree Ridge.

So while playoff teams from Region 2 (Luella, Douglass, Redan) are losing to non-playoff teams in AAAA, non-playoff teams in Region 6 (Northview, probably Centennial) are beating good playoff teams in AAAAA.

And finally, let’s look at computer rankings, which are not biased.

The Massey Ratings are used for the NCAA’s BCS rankings, and they also rank Georgia high school teams.

Here is how Massey has the top R2 and R6 teams ranked:

  1. Walton
  2. Roswell
  3. Chattahoochee 19. MLK
  4. Centennial 24. Stephenson
  5. Milton
  6. Sprayberry
  7. Wheeler
  8. Lassiter **39. Douglass
  9. Redan
  10. Luella**

My question: If Region 2 is performing as well as Region 6, why isn’t it showing up in computer rankings? Because Region 2 is not performing as well as Region 6 in its non-region games.

If Region 2 has a good showing in the state playoffs, I’ll be the first to eat crow in the final Poll Talk in December. But right now, I don’t think anyone can be objective and not see that Region 2 has been less than impressive this season.

By devil lover

November 8, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Todd, you haven’t shared with us yet your prediction about the Norcross North Gwinnett game. What say you oh prognosticator!

By devil lover

November 8, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Todd, it is time to put your reputation on the line and tell us your Norcross/North Gwinnett prediction. Don’t wait until tomorrow to let Maxie just pick the highest rated teams to win.

Anyone can just take the highest AJC rated team but it takes a real man to go against the house.

Remember you also need to share your fact which supports your decision.

This could make or break your career.

Cougar Mom, I need your help; since I helped you get the Hooch rated, getting Todd to make his Norcross/north Gwinnett prediction.

Can you help me?

By devil lover

November 8, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Todd, it is time to put your reputation on the line and tell us your Norcross/North Gwinnett prediction. Don’t wait until tomorrow to let Maxie just pick the highest rated teams to win.

Anyone can just take the highest AJC rated team but it takes a real man to go against the house.

Remember you also need to share your fact which supports your decision.

This could make or break your career.

Cougar Mom, I need your help; since I helped you get the Hooch rated, getting Todd to make his Norcross/north Gwinnett prediction.

Can you help me?

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 8, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

devil lover don’t know what I can do to help but whatever you need let me know.

So what say you Mighty Todd? What’s up with the Norcross/N. Gwinnett game?

By TCC Fan

November 8, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Just a heads up for class AAAA, don’t under estimate TCC. As long as they don’t put the ball on the ground, they are unstoppable. Smiley is the real deal. He has had several games where he has gained over 200 yds on 10-15 carries. The QB is the best athlete on the team, and can run or pass. They have a good defense that can hussle to the ball, and doesn’t give up many big plays, and they have a good kicker. All around excellent team. In AA Thomasville is really coming alive, and Cairo is a pretty good team also in AAA. Both of which TCC has beat, along with Tift Co and Colquit Co.

By Todd Holcomb

November 8, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

OK, I’ll do it for OCM.

North Gwinnett has played better than Norcross this season, but I still sense that Norcross is better. More talented, at least. Norcross won comfortably last season and should be better this year, though they haven’t fully demonstrated it. I think a showdown game at home for the region title will bring it out of them.

The key is not allowing major turnovers (or blocked punts) and the receivers making key plays because they’re not going to be able to line up and push North Gwinnett around. They’ll need game-changing plays on offense or special teams, but I think they’ll get it.

How’s that?

Two of three Gwinnett sports writers that I consulted picked North, fwiw.

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

To: “TODD HOLCOMB”, When you are asked how the “non-AAAAA” teams would compare against the AAAAA teams, your logic is as flawed as most AAAAA fans. To assume that just because a school enrollment may be impressive, is NOT an indicator as to the depth of their football roster. I have aleady pointed out an example of this. (i.e. Lowndes vs. LaGrange) The “Talent” factor is subjective. Some classes have more talent than others. But again, take an objective look at the rosters of the upper tier teams in AA, AAA, and AAAA, and you will find parity. To suggest that a school with an enrollment of 3000 has an inherent advantage over a school of 1000, is flawed. Lowndes has an enrollment of 2740. LaGrange has an enrollment of 1300. The roster at Lowndes-76 The roster at LaGrange-85 The comparison of seniors, juniors, sophs, is similar. So are the weights and heights of the players. In this scenario, it comes down to coaching and talent. NOT ENROLLMENT! Some (“Yo”) would argue that picking a roster from an enrollment of 2740 against a roster of 1300 would give the advantage to the larger roster every time. That would be true, IF it were possible to PICK your roster from your enrollment. But, that is not the way it works,. You have a certain number of kids who wish to play football. Some prefer track. Some soccer. etc. The school with the best coached, most talented DEEP roster will always be the best. No matter what classification. MORE TO COME!

By devil lover

November 8, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this

Excellent!

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 8:16 PM | Link to this

To:”Cougar Mom”, You scare the hebejeebies out of me. Could you possibly be my ex-wife?

By devil lover

November 8, 2007 8:33 PM | Link to this

Thanks OCM(Original Cougar Mom. Todd always responds nicely to you!!

By yo

November 8, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1…someone asked Todd’s opinion and he gave it. I can’t disagree with him. What say lets not resurrect that old dead horse of school size since there isn’t much more that can be said that hasn’t been. You know…tired of repeating the same old same old. When it comes to this debate you are occasionally right. Question for you? Ever wonder, if school size doesn’t offer an advantage why they ever bothered to have classifications based on school enrollment? Based on your thoughts why don’t we just have one classification and make it fairer for Lagrange, Clinch Cty., Buford, NSWR, etc. to claim “The State Title” and best in all class State Champion? Sure would make this argument non existent.

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this

To: “NTH Trojans” Glad you checked out the LG highlights. I agree. The D-Line is weak. Especially at the tackles. This is a VERY young, but agressive defense. They are getting better. Against Carver, even though they lost, I felt that it was their best defensive effort of the season. They held Carver to 19, and basically gave them one TD.(not the defense. The offensive turnover at their own 17.) Aside from that turnover, it could have been a 10-6 game in the 4th quarter, LAGRANGE. Not to take anything away fron Carver. They are TOUGH. But, beatable. The key for North Hall is #1 Turnovers. #2 DEFENSE. #3 Kicking game.#4Special teams.

By CLTN

November 8, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this

Slalom1, good comment on size of school vs roster size. Carrollton is about 1250 and has 112 on the football roster right now. Being so deep on the roster helps wear teams down late in the game.

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 9:21 PM | Link to this

To: “Yo ,my BRO” Glad to get you back from your vacation. Of course the GHSA would NEVER go for an “All classification play-off”. But something that may make sense would be something of a jamboree at the conclusion of the season. Stay with me on this: Take all 5 of the state champs. Place them at the “Dome”. Each champ plays every champ from each classification. But, not entire game. This is a “jamboree” for the fans. Each team gets 2 possesions from their opponent’s 25 yd line. No matter who wins, every team plays every team. At the conclusion, allow each team to have 3 field goal attempts. The first from the 15 yd line. The second from the 25 yard line. The third from the 35 yard line. Let the fans decide who is the best. This format will not prove anything. But sure could be fun.

By yo

November 8, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

Of course the GHSA would NEVER go for an “All classification play-off” I’m not thinking all classification play off, I’m talking 1 classification period. For the whole season. Why is it that you think the GHSA would be against this? Why would they ever break schools into classifications based on size any way. After all there is no advantage for the bigger schools which means no disadvantage for the smaller schools, right? Why would educated people do such a thing? Sure would save us S. Ga. schools a lot of gas to play say Brooks Cty., Lanier Cty., Clinch Cty. (all right up the road) instead of going to Warner Robins for a game. In fact I am sure there are 10 games we could schedule all within a hours drive and every one in that hour drive could be in Region 1. Who needs the A,AA,AAA,AAAA, AAAAA.

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 9:46 PM | Link to this

To:”CLTN” I have always given the Carrollton Trojans utmost respect on this blog. In my mind, Carrollton plays THE toughest “non-region” schedule of any AAA team in the state. In referring to their roster of 112, you make my point. It is no wonder that Carrollton takes AAAAA Newnan to the wood shed year after year, (as well as all of the non-AAA schools), which Carrollton opens their season against. Coach Rayvon Teague has done an excellent job of bringing the “swagger” back to Carrollton. Under Coach Teague, the state title will at some point come back to Carrollton. Maybe this season. Regardless, when in Carrollton, I have been treated not only to THE most modern high school football stadium in the state of Georgia, but even more importantly, some of the greatest fans in GHS football.

By powbeech

November 8, 2007 9:57 PM | Link to this

shalom1 has more ways to spread the same old tired delusional bs over and over than michael moore. Mindless, meaningless blather, much like yo. Go Vikes!

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 10:28 PM | Link to this

To: “Yo” Sure am glad to have you back to argue with. Now, “Yo”, I am sure that you do not wish for me to put you through GHSA 101. The idea,according to the GHSA is to give as many schools as possible a chance at winning a state title, in whatever classification. i.e. Alabama. Where they have 50% less schools and 6 classifications. “Yes”. School enrollment is one advantage. But only, if the kids in this hypothetical school wish to play football, instead of becoming a rock star. You must surely agree with this considering the huge enrollments of the Gwinnett schools, and the schools in, (I hate to bring this up, but here goes….Texas). “Yo”….It is not the enrollment. It is the ROSTER.

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 10:32 PM | Link to this

To: “YO”, At least we got placed in the same group.

By T.J.

November 8, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this

Todd, Where is David Purdum? Need to talk Gwinnett Football and playoffs. Has there been some movement on the first round selections? North Gwinnett and Norcross, the Gwinnett game of the week? Figure Grayson will defeat Burkmar. Brookwood will toy with Parkview before putting them out of their misery. Someone tell me what Gwinnett game will be the best to catch Friday night.

By yo

November 8, 2007 10:54 PM | Link to this

Okay Slalom…so lets think. You said School enrollment is one advantage. But only, if the kids in this hypothetical school wish to play football, instead of becoming a rock star Lets use 2 schools as a scenario. In both of these schools 30% (or whatever % you wish to use) of the kids decide to be football players and not rock stars. School A has 2000 kids to choose from and school B has 1000 to choose from. So at 30% of each, School A would have 600 kids and School B would have 300 kids from which to choose the biggest, best, fastest football players. School A is going to put 80 players on its football team and school B is going to field 80. What you are telling me “if all other things being equal” is that school A now has an advantage. “All other things being equal” would include good coaching, community support, feeder systems, etc. Am I hearing you right?

By Ed NSHS Fan

November 8, 2007 10:58 PM | Link to this

Glad tonight’s football game is over for NSWR since she had to play Mt. Zion-Jonesboro on a Thursday night. Final score was 62-7. Nothing to brag about but Mt. Zone scored first on the initial kick-off from NSWR. This game, though a powder-puff helped NSWR QB and Marqueze Ivory replacement, Joe Scott to mature. NSWR as it stands will play Creekside in the first round. I can’t wait to see the results of some top games tomorrow, especially N. Gwinnett and Norcross, Ware Couty and Statesboro, Griffin and Upson-Lee, Brookwood and Parkview, Rome and NW Whitfield, Thomas Cty Central and Bainbridge. Oh yes, for Slalom 1, LaGrange and Troup Cty. PS: Mt.Zion has a D1 running back name Martin Ward that several schools are trying to sign. He was completely shut down.

By yo

November 8, 2007 11:01 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1…what my fellow Viking lover failed to notice is that all of the posts on these sites is pretty much meaningless blather. Including his. I can admit it. I’m starting my 12 step process to quit being a meaningless blatherer asap. :-)

By slalom1

November 8, 2007 11:34 PM | Link to this

To: “Yo” I feel your pain.

By slalom1

November 9, 2007 12:01 AM | Link to this

To: “Yo”, I understand that you are in the early stages of “blog recovery”. But, in my effort to help you with your recovery, I must point out a few things that you MUST learn to deal with.

1-75 players=75 players.

Does not matter whether they came from a student body of 4000 or 1000.

2-In some schools, football matters more than others. 3-Out of a roster of 75 players, most will NEVER play college ball.

They are just high school players.

4-Out of this hypothetical roster, of those players who make up the majority of the team, coaching makes THE difference.(NOT THE STUDENT ENROLLMENT). 5-Having some D-1 talent makes a HUGE difference. 6-In the case of Lowndes, there are only 76 “high school players” who have chosen to make the sacrifice to play high school football.(Out of a student enrollment of 2740). 7-Your head coach did not hand pick these 76 players. These players made the decision to make the sacrifice on their own. 8-Using Carrollton as an example:

Student enrollment 1250. Roster size considerabley larger than Lowndes. Same case scenario. Where is the enrollment advantage?

I understand that you are entering “blog rehab”, but before you go in head first, maybe giving some thought to the above will give some clarity.

By slalom1

November 9, 2007 12:20 AM | Link to this

To: “Yo” Hope you will reconsider rehab, and just do what you do best. You could start up your own self help group. Call it AAA.(annoy, agitate, aggravate).

By cj

November 9, 2007 12:29 AM | Link to this

to slalom1, i guess powbeech is smoking and not inhaling. Its friday are u ready for some football

By slalom1

November 9, 2007 12:58 AM | Link to this

To: “cj”, That powbeech is a little bit strange. But, yeah. Last weekend of the regular season. Went by so fast. Your team is a lock. And, as you have heard me say before, the only team that beats Carver this season is Carver. This is about to get fun.

But….do not believe that will happen. They just have too much for anybody. Still, a re-match at Memorial would be quite an event.

By EP SENIOR

November 9, 2007 1:00 AM | Link to this

The truth comes out now! Who can hold their ground and remain unbeaten heading into the playoffs? East Paulding has 4-5 Lithia Springs at Lithia Springs for the final battle before the playoffs. They beat Sequoyah, and EP had an incredible battle with Sequoyah if you haven’t already seen or heard about it. I’m very interested in what we can do. We have already clinched the region championship. I just hope my boys will hold that ground and fight to the finish tomorrow night. Good luck to everyone in this “last chance” before the playoffs! Hope to see the big boys when we get there! NSWR…i personally want to see us up against the “almighty”!

By FanMan

November 9, 2007 7:39 AM | Link to this

To Slalom 1: The bigger the school the more the percentages are that you will find those 75 players that want to play. For example, in the city where i am originally from, with one exception, all the big powers are private Catholic ALL Boys schools. In fact, of the several big school division state champs, all but one has been one of the big ALL BOYS Catholic schools. They have close to the same amount of students as the public schools down here yet when they are all boys the percentages say they will have more of a field to pick from. True, not everyone wants to play ball yet it is sure easier to have 75 out of 2,000 sign up than it is to find 75 out of a school with maybe only 500 boys. It is simple math.

By GwinnettFan

November 9, 2007 7:45 AM | Link to this

TJ

North Gwinnett at Norcross

By HoochDad

November 9, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this

OK, I’ve changed my thinking and perspective with respect to Hooch rooting for Roswell:

1st choice - Roswell beats Centennial by 3 and only 3, giving Hooch the #2 seed and Roswell #3. Totally selfish on my part, because we want the #2 seed, but we’re actually rooting for Centennial now.

2nd choice - Roswell beats Centennial by either 1 or 2 - they win the game but are out of the playoffs. Note to Roswell’s coach and principal if that happens - you reap what you sow. You know what I’m talking about.

3rd choice - Centennial wins, preferably by blowout, surprising everyone in the region and showing that they’re a much better team than anyone ever gave them credit for. And yes, selfishly, Hooch is till in.

By yo

November 9, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

Fanman…I am finding that simple math is not simple for everybody.
;-) Some people want to bring science, history, and home economics into their math equations. To Slalom’s credit he has already admitted that School enrollment is one advantage Now if he will leave out the reading and writing and focus on the arithmetic he will see the truth. Remember Slalom, I said “All other things being equal” would include good coaching, community support, feeder systems, etc. That has already been figured into the equation and you need not add it in again.

By yo

November 9, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Slalom 1…one more question. If your fine coaching staff at Lagrange had another 500 boys to choose from in addition to the team you have now, what are the chances your fine coaching staff could have improvedthe Lagrange football team?

By FanMan

November 9, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this

To Yo: I hear you my man. Just for point of reference, my old school plays in the Catholic league I mentioned and is an all boys school. They won one game against the other all boys schools in their league yet dominated against the same schools that were boys and girls. It is all about numbers and no matter how good the support system is, you have to start with numbers.

By E

November 9, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

I have to agree with Steven Maxwell. The stephens vs. hart game was a great game. And, yes, they should get more recognition for it. Along with more recognition for the NEGA teams. Nobody seems to like the NEGA teams, but you can expect to see them at the dome and i wouldn’t be suprised if a NEGA team did win the AAA State title.

By mikefresh

November 9, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

im just throwing this out here fill free to dis agree but nobody has talked about what salem did last week when they beat a very good cedar shoals team. now all im saying is that salem is 9-0 and they do deserve a little respect now i do remember a few years back when salem mae it all the way to the dome after they beat tucker so this tem has had a few winning seasons it’s not like it’s a fluke this year agree or dis agree??

and are the state championship games at the georgia dome or are they still at the higher seeds home?

By devil lover

November 9, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

I was told that not until the 2008 championship game.

By devil lover

November 9, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

NCFan back to something you said earlier about North Cobb in the championship game. While I agree that NC is definitely an excellent football team, you must admit that against a fourth seed at best team last week who had to use their fourth string QT, NC did not come away with an outstanding win by only 7 pts. Maybe playing for their first regional championship in almost 30 yrs might have made them a little nervous. However playing for a state championship will require a lot more control of their nerves.

By NC Fan

November 9, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this

Devil,

Yes we let Etowha get back in the game. We jumped on them early 21-0 and kinda took their foot off the pedal. That will not work in the play-offs. In the end they still won. That is a good sign to me. I know when this team is on they can play & compete with anybody on the field. The slowest player on defense is there FS and he is not slow by any means.

You are right they don’t have much experience in the playoffs. Heck when I was in school there in the early 90’s they never even sniffed the playoffs.

I will enjoy what they have done and if they fall short well it’s been a nice run. I like the fact that I get to see my old school ranked #1 and have been able to hold on to it for a majority of the season. Also to being able to see them ranked nationally is sweet to.

Best of luck to your Devils tonight. I’m glad it’s at your place as I live less than a mile from N.G. now and hate the traffic on game nights.

By Todd Holcomb

November 9, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

all im saying is that salem is 9-0 and they do deserve a little respect

Salem is deserving of respect but is not 9-0. Salem lost 21-0 to Thomson.

By devil lover

November 9, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

They are expecting a sellout so get there as early as possible. The gates open at 4:30 and this is senior night so even more people to deal with. If you can not get there by 6:15 just head to the parking at Christ the King Lutheran Church 5575 Peachtree Pkwy and you can hop a bus.

Should be a good game

By mikefresh

November 9, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

woops sorry i forgot that they lost to Thomson… does anybody think that salem could make a run in te playoff’s? if they win tonite and habersham does as well then salem would be the region champ if im correct? and that would mean the #1 seed and a decent draw in the playoff’s just wondering cuz i havent heard anything about them on here and i think that they should be talked about, i belive there sub region is a little better than the sub reion that habersham is in so with that said i think that they should get some love.

By GwinnettFan

November 9, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Good luck all you Cougar Moms

By slalom1

November 9, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

To:”Yo, my bro” What are you arguing about? We have already hashed this out. And, we agreed: ENROLLMENT IS AN ADVANTAGE, but NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM. i.e Smaller schools whom in some cases have larger rosters than their AAAAA counterparts, have the advantage. As for the 500 additional kids to “chose from”. Coaches do NOT CHOSE their rosters. The players chose to play or not to play. In some Georgia schools, soccer draws more players than the football team. But on balance, the larger schools have the “enrollment advantage”. “Bigger is not always better.”(at least that is what I preach to my girlfriend.) This is what drives me nuts….”500 more players to CHOSE from”. No one CHOSES their players. I may need to enter your “blog rehab” 12 step program before this season is over. Interested to hear your predictions for the play-offs, provided you have not yet entered re-hab. And…..could you just wait until the end of the season? GHS football needs “Yo”.(even though you are a pain in the

By mikefresh

November 9, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

slalom 1

very well said i agree with ya 100 percent that size doent matter when were talking high school football i mean for criest sake look at ghetto creek i mean medaowcreek they havent won a game in 4years thats 41 games in a row that they have lost and more than likely when we check back 2nite it will be 42 but i think it’s good that dacula and northside and buford are moving up it will shake things up in the state next year

im still looking for someones thoughts on salem??

By Reeze

November 9, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1, give it up .This kid has a hard head.

By steven maxwell

November 9, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

I just have to say good luck to all the northeast ga schools i hope each team the best of luck but as for fb i see they might have to meet up with the indians and that could be a problem for them but as for the rest good luck and i wish you the best and would’nt that be something to have the state playoffs in Ne Ga NH vs SC.As for poole getting aloose trust me he can just ask any of the teams that’s seen him or check out his highlight films on rivals.com or the indians web site there’s not a better back in ga he’s a speical kid with amazing talent good luck once again.

By devil lover

November 9, 2007 10:28 PM | Link to this

Norcoss 24-14 over North Gwinnett and the 2007 region 7 champs.

Good pick Todd. Follow my lead for the rest of the state tournament.

By mikefresh

November 9, 2007 10:35 PM | Link to this

ok so here are a few of the playoff match up’s next week

clarke central@ tucker cedar shoals @ mays sit pius x @salem marsit @ hab ersham central oconee county @ carrllton

By will

November 9, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this

hoyas overated go raiders in the final week did walton move up to 3 or 4

By NC FAN

November 9, 2007 11:44 PM | Link to this

NC wins in impressive fashion on TV to complete the perfect regular season.

Next up P’Tree Ridge…. hope you guys bring your A game your gonna need it.

Wow what happened to the Hoya’s… 2nd loss of the season tonight both coming by 1pt… still a team to watch out for in the playoffs.

By NC FAN

November 9, 2007 11:48 PM | Link to this

Oh forgot to put this up. Here is the AAAAA bracket. This is how it will be Good Luck to all.

[http://www.gasports.com/files/ga/brackets/2007fb5.pdf]

By Reeze

November 10, 2007 12:15 AM | Link to this

Wow!,AAAAA and AAA has some really good 1st round matchups.

By 1stork

November 10, 2007 6:53 AM | Link to this

Wait until after the finals to rank the regions. Region 1AAAAA teams usually go far into the playoffs, even meeting for the finals sometimes. As for Camden, give me a break…they are the only good team in a region of patsies, and rarely face real competition before the playoffs.

By devil lover

November 10, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this

Hey Todd. I think there is an excellent case for Norcross to take over the No. 2 ranked position in the state since we defeated North Gwinnett last night soundly 24-14 and as you know they were undefeated with victories over Brookwood, Walton and Peachtree Ridge. Harrison lost to Campbell and Harrison had beaten Lowndes earlier in the season. Walton lost to North Gwinnett and Norcross had beaten Walton in a pre-season game as well. Even though ML King is undefeated, you has stated more than once that region 2 is considered a weaker region and ML King had not play any top ten teams out side of their region. Of course Norcross Beat Grayson 24-3 who at the time was ranked in the top ten.

What say you?

By yo

November 10, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

What is it Dandy Don used to sing “Turn out the lights, the parties over”….NSWR had better make it a good party this year….and glad to have you coming up to the “real” big time. Even if I do hate making that 2 hour trip up I-75 to Warner Robins. Your future schedule will include: Warner Robins, Houston Cty., Tift Co., Colquit Cty., Coffee Cty., Lowndes, and Valdosta. “Good luck” on going undefeated in the future. I love it! Next year is going to be Fun!!! ps-This will be your chance to prove size doesn’t matter and make Slalom a hero.

By NC FAN

November 10, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

Devil,

That may be pushing. Just sit back let the team with no losses have that ranking. Even though you guys mop the floor with them. It’s playoff time those rankings are out the window anyway…

Best of Luck in the playoffs.

By NSHS FAN

November 10, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

TO YO, NSWR welcomes the challenge of playing where their stundent population dictates. The requirement was a 1850 student average over the school year to be placed in AAAAA classification. Presently, for NSWR- her average is 1902. Fifty two (52) students beyond the required number to be re-classified to AAAAA. NSWR will be the 6th smallest school in AAAAA. Remember, playing with teams (now) at the AAAAA level her record since the late nineties is 69-11. Now, on another point—-team strenght go in cycles. I don’t expect NSWR to have a Championship team next year. She will be competive and will probably make the play-offs but will not be of a state champion. The greatest of all Georgia team, Valdosta finished 1-9 last year. Lowndes 2004 and 2005 state champions did not make the play-off in 2006. There are many other teams moving up to AAAAA>>>>>>>Take a shot at some of them!

By yo

November 10, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

NSHS Fan…the other teams are not going to be in our region. We will over look next year for you. Just looking forward to the year to year competition. Now you go from being one of the biggest in your classification (AAAA) to one of the smallest (AAAAA). Everyone keeps saying size doesn’t matter though. That would mean it hasn’t helped you being in AAAA and will not hurt you now that you are moving up to AAAAA “if” that be true. Listen, I realize the great program you have and welcome you making 1AAAAA tougher than it already is. 1AAAAA just got tougher beginning next year with you guys “coming on up!”.

By devil lover

November 10, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Hey NC Fan. What your predictions for the play offs? Here’s mine in order of their potential to win it all.

Lowndes North Cobb Brookwood Harrison Norcross Walton

Long shots are Stephenson and the Hooch

By jaybo

November 10, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

nshs senior, did you hear that TCC dismantled Bainbridge last night 55-20 for the region 1-AAAA title. Obviously you thought Bainbridge would be able to compete with us, I don’t think so!!!!! We were only up on them 14-7 at half time and then somebody let the “SWARM” out of their hive in the second half—-55-20 case closed, game over!!!!

By Reeze

November 10, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Yo!,Careful what you wish for.The days of fearing Lowndes and Valdosta are long gone.Yo believe or not,back in 2004 a lot of folks around here didn’t like the move from 5A to 4A.Some just didn’t like change,but those who knew of the young group of players coming up knew there was a good chance of winning a championship in the near future.Most rathered it be in 5A than 4A.Believe me ,nobody’s dreading the move up,we’ve known it for months. NSWR: 94 total pts-1120 total yards.WR/HOCO:28 total pts-570 total yards.These are the 2006 and 2007 numbers against our crosstown 5A rivals.And if you remember HOCO made it to the Qrts and WR to the semi’s last year,YOU were watching them on T.V. Yo i see you and Slolam going back and forth about numbers and school size.You gotta understand a few programs it doesn’t matter which classification their assigned,they will have success.NSWR is one of them.

By Reeze

November 10, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this

Yaybo,I am praying that both of our teams make it to the finals this year.If it turns out a NSWR/TCC finals matchup,what a Xmas it will be.I hope your stadium has a large seating capacity,because we will come down and turn the Jackets nest inside out

By T.J.

November 10, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

I went to the game with N. Gwinnett vs. Norcross. Norcross was the most balanced I have seen them in years. Running game and defense have stepped up. I heard Grayson is more balanced too but against Bermar—-eh. The 2nd round should be interesting for both if they make it past the first round. But in the Devils house, they rule.

By yo

November 10, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Reeze…Lowndes is shooting for its 3rd championship in 4 years. This may not be their year when all said and done (even though many on this blog seem to be picking them), but the next 2 years they will be a team to be feared. We welcome NSHS to the mix. You will only make the region better. Oh, we will not beat you every year but you’ll learn to have a deeper respect for Lowndes and the rest of the region when it is all said and done. Welcome to the SEC of high school football. When you win this region you can “know” you are a serious challenger for the state AAAAA title. AAAAA football…the only classification where size doesn’t see to matter. ;-)

By yo

November 10, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Out of curiosity does any body know how close TCC is to moving up to 1AAAAA? I for one would like to see that happen also.

By Lowndes Class1980/81

November 10, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

To yo…..TCC’s numbers are not ther yet they are 1572.5 according to GHSA (http://www.GHSA.net)

By Reeze

November 10, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this

Yo i understand that lowndes falls into AAAA class.Are they gonna stay in AAAAA?

By Reeze

November 10, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this

Yo ,i think we’re seeing eye to eye now,granted i’m not looking foward to the 2hr trip to Valdosta and Other parts of south GA,but ill get over it.But you are correct about being in a more competetive region to play.I think over the next few years it will make every team in the region better.

By will

November 10, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this

todd still picking da parkview upset 9-1 #1seed walton raiders are looking really good wildcats took care of jj but offence awsered wit 4 passing tds i said it here state champs walton

By vegasjs

November 10, 2007 9:12 PM | Link to this

Grayson will not get past Chattahoochee. The Hooch has showed its level with wins vs camden and roswell. Unique O will counteract Grayson D. Norcross will also fall but I am concerned with the rematch vs Camden in rnd 3.

By NC Fan

November 10, 2007 9:19 PM | Link to this

Devil,

A few things threw a wrench into my thinking last night.

  1. Watching NC destroy Marietta. I thought NC was really good to begin with. However I thought experience would slow them down in the playoffs. After last nights game I feel sorry for anyone that gets them in the playoffs.

  2. Harrison… I thought they were possibly the best team in the state with the experience to ride it out and maybe make this there year. Campbell is no push over. They gave NC all they wanted. But the loss shows they are very vulnerable.

I guess my picks as far as favorites go like this.

  1. NC - after many teams failed to hold the #1 spot this year they have stepped up and fought hard to keep it. I think the only team that can beat them is themselves.

  2. Lowndes - tough team. Very experienced come this time of year with tradition. Scary match-up in the playoffs. If all goes as it should. The winner of NC v. Lowndes is the front runner to win it all.

  3. Camden Co. - Now you may be saying what. Weak schedule. Yes but come the playoffs this team has been there and done that. Rich in tradition. Might surprise people.

  4. Harrison - Still a dangerous team on the field despite the loss last night. If they catch fire they can beat anyone and have proved it.

5.Brookwood - I waivered on having them higher.

6.Walton 7.Newnan 8.Norcross 9.Valdosta 10. MLK

By jaybo

November 10, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this

Reeze you’re right, a TCC-NSWR final would be awesome! I am pulling for that to happen. To answer your question, of course our stadium is large enough, you must not know how “big-time” our program is!!!! Let’s hope we both make it to that point. We will be waiting on NS at the NEST!!

By will

November 10, 2007 10:34 PM | Link to this

todd jump on the bandwagan with me you will when we win are first state title go raiders

By NSHS FAN

November 11, 2007 12:14 AM | Link to this

To: BY Reeze, Lowndes and Camden County student bodies are very high. I know LC population is around 2,700 and CC about 2,400.

By devil lover

November 11, 2007 7:35 AM | Link to this

NC Fan. Yes I am a NC believer after saturday night.

  1. I guess the question is who will make it to the quarter finals. NC will probably has to play both of last year’s finalists, Roswell and Peachtree Ridge, back to back but at home they should be able to finish the job. But then they have to play Lowndes. I am going with who ever gets home field advantage. The winner could be this yr’s state champion.

  2. The winner of the Walton/Harrison 2nd rd game should represent their bracket, however if the winner has to play in Valdosta for the 3rd round, tradition and fan base support might make the difference.

  3. Brookwood has played one of the hardest schedule of any team and they are still are on top in region 8. North Gwinnett beat them by 1 pt earlier in the season but at Brookwood the Broncos will be to tuff to beat.

  4. If Norcross get to the 3rd rd against Tiff or Camden County I think the winner will be whoever has the home field advantage. Of course Grayson or the Hooch might have something to see about this.

I think the field is full of dark horses. Like last yr we may have at least one dark horse in the finals. Since I don’t think that either NC or Lowndes has played a very competitive schedule they might be surprised by the level of competition in other regions. I still think home field advantage is “king” in the play offs just ask North Gwinnett who had played a very difficult schedule with Brookwood, Walton, Norcross and Peachtree Ridge but played all but one, Norcross who was their only lost, at home.

By NC FAN

November 11, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

Devil,

I can’t disagree with anything you wrote their. Also if NC & Lowndes do meet I think it will go down to Valdosta with Lowndes having home field advantage. I don’t believe NC meets the seating capicity requirments.

Good luck to your team…

By Donahue Johnson

November 11, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

I haven’t seen a freaking RB in the state of Ga as good as Kenny Miles yet,so what’s up with these dumb recruiters. If the kids grades are up, then UT, USC, Ohio st should come out of the woodworks. This kid is fast and strong. It’s not that the line is so good, it’s Kenny Miles. He’s better right now than Charles of the University of Texas. He’s that good!

By devil lover

November 11, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Hey NG 17. I have not heard from you this weekend. How did you like the game friday night? Not bad for an average qb leading his team to a decisive victory over the so called no.2 team in the state.

No seriously, I hope NG stops Brookwood again in the 2nd rd. Best of luck.

By TCCjacketfan

November 11, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Reeze nswr will come to the Jackets Nest with nothing and leave with nothing, other than a butt whoopin. The D-Train will run on the tracks that his o-line lays for him. Do you hear that? There is a train coming. Choo Choo!!

By Reeze

November 11, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Jacketfan ,slow your roll,we’ve got to get their first.We have a few games to play

By devil lover

November 11, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Last year’s 5A quarter finals consisted of three teams from region 7 and three teams from region 1 (and 1 region 6 and 1 region 2). These two regions might dominant again.

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

To:”Yo”, my bro, So, what happened? Being serious. Have not had an opportunity to read the “wrap-ups”

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

To:”ALL AAA Bloggers” So, Where is everyone ? Granted, no major surprises this week. But, now we have a format for the play-offs. What gives? I will start by saying that LaGrange narrowly escaped an upset by Troup. The most interesting match-up in the state is Shaw vs. Peach County.(in the first round) Peach County has been somewhat silent this year. But, you have to give them respect. Do not know much about this year’s Peach County team. Having said that, I would NOT like to face them in the first round of the play-offs. Secondly, a question: “Have I completely underestimated Stephens County?” They appear to be for real. Let’s hear from the AAA nation.

By NTH Trojans

November 11, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

slalom 1,

I’m looking at the AAA bracket now, and I see a few possible upsets as well. Shaw/ Peach is certainly the most interesting matchup on Friday, but what Hart Co/ Sandy Creek? Or Gainesville/Westminster? Perry/LaGrange could be a good one also. And the #1 vs #4 matchup that I am watching is Henry Co/Harris Co. By the way, what is up with LG? Did Troup just play up to the competition, or did LG play down to their level? One more question, were you sweating bullets at that game, or what?

By will

November 11, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

to devil lover walton beat valdosta 3 years ago and team is just as good as they were then the south gA ERA IS OVA

By NTH Trojans

November 11, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this

slalom 1,

I’ve been trying to tell you for about at least a month and a half that Stephens Co is for real. They beat Habersham Central earlier in the year, and Hab Central has a good shot at the AAAA title.

By Tucker Student

November 11, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

As a Tucker fan, if we get past the first two rounds, I would LOVE to play Statesboro and get FULL revenge from the victory taken away from us 3 years ago. I don’t know if anyone remembers that game, but Statesboro won 15-14 with the worst officiating I have ever seen in a game to date.

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this

To: “NTH Trojans”, First of all, you are right. The first round match-ups in AAA could bring about major upsets. As for the LaGrange vs. Troup game. Yes. I WAS sweating bullets. But, not unexpectedly. Troup has gotten better each week of the season, while playing with a team that is on paper, not nearly as good as LaGrange. LaGrange on the other hand , has a team that is as talented as any team I have EVER seen in GHS football. But, here goes…..This LG team is VERY young. Also, I must admit that this LG team is the most poorly coached team that I have ever seen at LHS. Not blaming this on the coaches. Maybe it is just a matter of the team being VERY young, and at this stage of life being what I would lable as “uncoachable”. This LG team plays like “hotdogs” most of the time. You can see the frustration with the coaches on the sidelines. LG probably has no less than 8 D-1 players on their roster. However, they are all sophs and juniors. It would not surprise me to see Perry put the wood to them in the first round. On the other hand, it would not surprise me to see the Grangers take it all the way. Just a weird season for LHS. As for North Hall….the way I see things: 1-Do not beat yourselves. 2-Do NOT be intimidated 3-MOST IMPORTANT….DO NOT GET COCKY. Focus on team. NOT the big hits. As I have said before, I have a problem believing that anyone can beat Carver-Columbus, except for Carver-Columbus. But, North Hall has a special team this season. Not a Deron Furr. Not a Jarmon Fortson. However, this North Hall team has a certain “mojo” that I cannot exactly put into words. The team is solid, on both sides of the ball. Their kicking game is solid, as well as their special teams. I must admit that throughout the years, I have not been much of a fan of north Georgia football. However, I DO belive in this North Hall team. If they do the little things right, it will be North Hall vs. Carver. WHAT A GAME!

By HSballfan

November 11, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this

By what twisted logic is Lovejoy (5-5, 4-2 subregion) a three seed and Baldwin (8-1, 5-1 subregion) a four seed in 4AAAA? On what planet does this make sense? No wonder Georgia comes in last in test scores. If I’m a Fayette County fan I am not happy with that first round pairing.

And an aside to Tucker student… it wasn’t so much the officiating, as I recall, but Tucker’s coaching. Taking a safety and giving one of the best kickers in the state a chance to beat you was one of many mistakes Bill Ballard made and few of us who have followed Tucker football were sorry to see him go. He can be Peachtree Ridge’s problem until they run him off.

By Tucker Student

November 11, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

Yes, that was true. Taking the safety was dumb in a way, because our Punter was pretty good that year. Also, if they had to take the safety like that, Dwayne Harris, who was our Quarterback, could have AT LEAST ran around in the end zone to milk some of the clock off which would have basically screwed Statesboro’s chances. It was a tough loss, but also what I said about the officiating was true. In High School, you don’t stop the clock when you have a first down because he didn’t get out of bounds because they started the clock soon afterwards, when they shouldn’t have stopped it at all. Also, Statesboro wasn’t even set right for the field goal AND had twelve men on the field. Flags for illegal procedure were not thrown. That loss stings horribly in the back of Tucker fan’s minds. The chance at redemption would be fantastic.

By NSHS FAN

November 11, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

To: By Tucker Fan: I feel your revenge! When I saw NSWR had to play Evans (if both make it past round one) I was very disappointed. I was hoping for Statesboro to be where Evans is seeded. I haven’t forgotten where a local call prevented NSWR from ending their game with a 10-10 score. Instead, an incomplete pass was called a fumble giving Statesboro the ball around the 10 yard line with about a minute left in the game. They kicked a field goal giving them a 13-10 score an the state Championship. NSWR knew the good old boys wanted that Championship to go to Statesboro because the year before Warner Robins had beaten Statesboro in Statesboro for the state Championship. I am still p#$&*d. Oh well, such is life.

By NSHS FAN

November 11, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

To: By Tucker Fan: I feel your revenge! When I saw NSWR had to play Evans (if both make it past round one) I was very disappointed. I was hoping for Statesboro to be where Evans is seeded. I haven’t forgotten where a local call prevented NSWR from ending their game with a 10-10 score. Instead, an incomplete pass was called a fumble giving Statesboro the ball around the 10 yard line with about a minute left in the game. They kicked a field goal giving them a 13-10 score an the state Championship. NSWR knew the good old boys wanted that Championship to go to Statesboro because the year before Warner Robins had beaten Statesboro in Statesboro for the state Championship. I am still p#$&*d. Oh well, such is life.

By NSHS FAN

November 11, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

To: By Tucker Fan: I feel your revenge! When I saw NSWR had to play Evans (if both make it past round one) I was very disappointed. I was hoping for Statesboro to be where Evans is seeded. I haven’t forgotten where a local call prevented NSWR from ending their game with a 10-10 score. Instead, an incomplete pass was called a fumble giving Statesboro the ball around the 10 yard line with about a minute left in the game. They kicked a field goal giving them a 13-10 score and the state Championship. NSWR knew the good old boys wanted that Championship to go to Statesboro because the year before Warner Robins had beaten Statesboro in Statesboro for the state Championship. I am still p#$&*d. Oh well, such is life.

By NTH Trojans

November 11, 2007 8:26 PM | Link to this

slalom 1,

One of the most impressive qualities that I have seen in North Hall this season is the fact that they are not cocky. In fact, as a team, they are very humble. You will not see taunting, hot-dogging, or “posing” at any time during the game, no matter what the score. They have a workmanlike quality about them this year. One of their goals at the beginning of the season was to:

1)Beat Gainesville

2)Win the region and therefore the #1 seed

3) Win the state championship.

They have accomplished the first two things on their list, so the only thing left is to win State. After watching the Carver highlights, I think that they matchup well with them. Both teams have great team speed, both teams are awesome defensively, they may have the advantage offensively, but I think that we are better on special teams. As for LaGrange, Cam Greathouse looks awesome! I can’t wait to get a look at him live and in person. What other machups do you like in the first round? Who do you think is the team most likely to be upset in the first rd?

By HSballfan

November 11, 2007 8:36 PM | Link to this

Generally speaking, the state of high school football officiating has gotten pretty sorry. I’ve seen some calls this season that were just breathtaking in their stupidity.

As much as I’d love to see Tucker erase the Statesboro jinx (I was there in Statesboro the year they lost with Jabari Davis on the penetration rule!), this is not one of Statesboro’s best years, and it appears much more likely Tucker will have to get past Baldwin to reach the dome. Of course, if Tucker’s pass defense doesn’t improve (hey coach, try rushing more than 3 guys), they might not survive Douglas County or NW Whitfield.

By jaybo

November 11, 2007 8:39 PM | Link to this

Will someone please explain how Baldwin is a 4 seed and Lovejoy a 3 seed?

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this

To: “NTH Trojans” You are aware that Cam Greathouse plays for Shaw. Left handed QB. Not real quick. But very savy. And…VERY “on the money” when it comes to passing. Again, do not know what Peach County has this season. It seems as though none of their fans wish to be a part of this blog. So, who does N. Hall go against in the first round? And….What do you think of them?

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this

TO:”AAAAA” fans, I am still wondering if I heard the score right…Warner Robbins 23-Lowndes 6. Is this correct?I do not always trust what I read. In my mind, Lowndes was a favorite to win the AAAAA title in 2007. Be that as it may, should the score that I read be true, it only backs up what I believe. 1AAAAA IS the SEC of high school football. And…My money is still on Lowndes. No dis to WR.

By Observer

November 11, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this

I was able to see TCC play for the first time this year this past friday. I was told that their running game is the best in the state, and now by seeing them play I can say it’s true. They have a running back #40 called Smiley the train. He is the real deal. Big, fast and can run slap over you. There was a play where Smiley broke some tackles up the middle and got in to a foot race with Bainbridge safey and qb #7 Nick Williams who has commited to Georgia and Smiley out ran him to the end zone. That really impressed me because Smiley is 6ft 1 and 240 lbs. Not only do they have Smiley, their qb #1 is a threat also. Very fast and mobile. He runs the veer very good. He rushed for 234 yards. Smiley rushed for 238 yards, dangerous combination. Their other running back has break away speed also. He runs very hard. O-line is very quick off the ball. On defense very aggresive and fast. Their linebackers will lay a hit on you. On defense line #99 is very big 6ft5 310 lbs and moves very quick for his size. Their safty #7 hard hitter and had 2 int which one he took back for a td. Over all a very solid team. TCC will win state this year if they play all 5 games the way they did this past friday. I honestly do not see any team stopping their running game.

By yo

November 11, 2007 9:57 PM | Link to this

Slalom 1…you have the right score but Lowndes still has only the one loss for the season. I find it interesting and humerous that someone on here posted that Lowndes has played a soft schedule this year.

By NTH Trojans

November 11, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

slalom 1,

Yes, I know that Greathouse plays for Shaw, but I saw him in the Shaw/LG highlights and I kinda ranted and went off course. Anyway, on to NH. After the first they will play either Hart Co or Sandy Creek. Both teams can cause a lot of teams trouble, but I know more about Hart Co, as do the NH coaches. I’m certain that they will do an exraordinary job of scouting both teams, as well as breaking down game film and figuring out what their tendencies on certain down and distances. But I think from a fan perspective, I’d rather see them play HC over Sandy Creek for two reasons; I know more about HC, and I would like to see who is the better team. How do you see LG road going?

By AAAA State Championship

November 11, 2007 11:00 PM | Link to this

TCC and Nswr will play for the AAAA state championship. Both great teams. I beleive TCC will win because of their running game and being able to pass good enough to keep you out of the box. Their defense is very good also. TCC has a great coaching staff. TCC Head Coach Ed Pilcher has coached in 6 state title games at TCC and won 5. TCC 28 Nswr 17.

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this

To: “Yo” Relieved to hear that the score was Lowndes 23, WR 6. Read it in the print media today. (You just cannot trust those guys.) Now, I feel better about my play-off predictions. And….who in their right mind would say that Lowndes has played a “light” schedule? I am about to name the print mdedia I have referred to. It is the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer. This is the second time this season where they have printed the scores in reverse. These guys need to get it right. They are pathetic. My “hands-up” to Lowndes.

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this

To:”NTH Trojans” Have you noticed how silent the LaGrange fans have been in the past 3 weeks? For good reason. I am basically about to repeat myself, but here goes: I would not be shocked if the Grangers went out in the first round to Perry. On the other hand, I would not be shocked if they went the distance. This LG team is loaded with talent, but also loaded with kids lacking in maturity. At times, they look unbeatable. At other times, they look like a first year program. This LG team is from a consistency standpoint, the biggest dissapointment I can remember in 20 years. I am certain the coaches must be as frustrated with this team as I am. In a strange way, it felt good to see them lose to Carver and Shaw. Maybe it will help these arrogant kids grow up. They need it.

By slalom1

November 11, 2007 11:54 PM | Link to this

To: “Reeze” You are absolutely right about the enrollment numbers. NSHS will do as well in AAAAA as in AAAA. It is about the ROSTER! Not the enrollment. Keep the heat on “Yo”.

By cj

November 12, 2007 12:33 AM | Link to this

to slalom1 Im in california but still looking at the brackets. i think that shaw has a great chance to get to the dome.

By jaybo

November 12, 2007 12:59 AM | Link to this

Observer, I’m glad somebody other than myself knows how great Debrale “The Train” Smiley is. I argued on the blog a week or so ago that Smiley is the best player in the state of Ga. He has the edge over Tijuan Green of NSWR because of his combination of size, power and speed. Out ran the fast, athletic Nic Williams(UGA committment)of Bainbridge this past friday night on ab 83 yd touchdown run. Know we got a ways to go, but I’d sure like to know what team has a defense that can stop TCC for four quarters.

By yo

November 12, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

Word is that Nix wants to get NSHS classified into 4AAAAA instead of 1AAAAA. Wants to take Houston Cty. and Warner with them. From a traveling point of view it makes sense for the to do so, but I hate to see it from the competition point of view. Also, other schools in Camden’s region are all AAA and AAAA and would have to chose to stay moved up or Camden could be headed to 1AAAAA. From a traveling stand point that would be a tough gig for Camden.

By Lowndes Class1980/81

November 12, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Camden may not have a choice but to travel. But remember all the teams in 1AAAAA will have to go to camdem as well at one point or another. As fra as Nix’s NS, so what if the have to travel, the other WR teams have been doing it. What makes him think that he is any better than they are. It is just part of the game.

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