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By Warrior Fan

November 5, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

Todd,

Looks good to me. I think at this moment that N.Cobb, Harrison one two punch is as nasty as any in the state.

One more to go for N.Cobb to finish the undefeated season.

Go Warriors.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

Condolences to the Cougar moms.

By Warrior Fan

November 5, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Regular season that is..

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this

Mr. Todd, I asid that if we lost I would suck it up and admit to defeat. So before anyone (Hornet Nation in particular) gets on here and starts their blogging I want to be able to say this:

Centennial came out to the field with the determination to win the game and they did. I am not going to knock their hustle, I am not going to say we lost because they had all the trick plays and all this woulda, coulda, shoulda crap. I am not going to blame anyone or try and rationalize and point fingers for our loss but us. Our coach made a bad call and we lost the game because of that, plain and simple. So now we stand 7-2, tied with Roswell which brings me to this question:

If Hooch and Roswell end up tied at the end of the season, how does one determine who wins the sub-region title? I was told that with the record the same, it would come head-to-head and since we beat Roswell that Hooch would secure the title…is that so?

By homet

November 5, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

LOL!!!…Where’s the BIG talk now…the May’s boys whipped Marist on the field during the game and THEN you let them celebrate / disrespect you on YOUR field AFTER the game!!!…

All the while East Paulding was playing what was one of the MOST exciting games of the year against a VERY tough (record not withstanding) Sequoyah team! Down 14 to 10 East Pauldings guys could have quit but instead they showed the heart this team has and moved down the field to score with 8 SECONDS left on the clock!!!

They are and deserve to be the 5AAAA Region Champs!

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this

GwinnettFan: I certainly hope you are being sincere….

By David Gordon

November 5, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Why are the Bainbridge Bearcats not ranked in AAAA? Their only two losses are to two of the state’s top ranked teams: Cairo (AAA) and Early County (AA). Other teams that are ranked in AAAA with identical records as Bainbridge (7-2) have losses to inferior teams!

By Jawjadude

November 5, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

hey Todd Turner did not make it out of Region 2-A, Hawkinsville did

By Hornat Nation

November 5, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

To The Original Cougar Mom it is much more complicated than that as it is a system agreed upon by coaches of the sub-region before the season. My understanding is that if Roswell wins by 3 against Centennial on Friday they are in the playoffs and if they win by 5 or more they win the sub-region. How that exactly affects the Hooch I do not know.

By NSHS FAN

November 5, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Todd, I totally agree with your ranking of teams in Region 4: That is, NSWR, Baldwin, Westside and Upson as playing in the toughest AAAA classification. I realize there are individual teams from each region that maybe better than one of the listed team. However, given that NSWR, Baldwin and Westside are in the top ten(10)of AJC ranked teams in AAAA, speaks for itself. In an earlier poll by Georgia Coaches Association, Upson-Lee was included gievn Region 4 four teams BUT I will stick to your AJC poll.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 11:25 AM | Link to this

Anyone: does that mean that Hooch won’t go to the play-offs?

Also, just a head’s up to the Hornets, on when you play the Knights, their marching band WILL play while you have possession of the ball….they played the ENTIRE time and the officials didn’t call penalty or nothing….completely rude. Just my thoughts…..

By Jaybird229

November 5, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this

To David Gordon: Although I agree about Bainbridge losing to two good teams, the other 7-2 teams have lost to teams just as good. Westside lost to #1 Northside and #4 Baldwin. Mays lost to Tucker and St. Pius X, who is also 7-2. Marist lost to Tucker and Mays. Those teams are very worthy of their rankings. So I know you feel the Bearcats should be ranked, but they don’t play in a very good region, so I think that’s what’s hurting there perception among the voters. But don’t worry, the Cats will have their chance Friday. If they beat TCC, they will have no choice but to rank them.

By Where is the love for Pius Todd?

November 5, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Beat Mays who beat Marist we have the same record and deserve to be ranked over Mays. Were in the playoffs officlay now when everyone doubted us again.

By where is the love for Pius

November 5, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

Where is the love for PIUS

By HSballfan

November 5, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this

Since my team plays AAAA, I won’t comment on the other classfications, but I think your rankings are pretty accurate. You could probably shuffle regions 2,3 and 8, but I don’t think you’d get much of an argument that 4 and 6 appear to be the cream of the crop.

By NG17

November 5, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

TODD, A Norcross loss to North Gwinnett will cause a 3-way tie for the

tie breaker for this.I agree with North #1 in region 7 . Norcross did not look sharp vs Collins Hill and North Dee line will be too much for Norcross to handle.

By Leon

November 5, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

I want to no how come Ware County Gators (7-2) are not ranked in the top 10. They are other teams that is ranked with 7-2 records and do not have as hard of a schedule as Ware County. They are just one game from winning AAAA and heading into the playoffs in first place. I think that the Georgia Coaches around Atlanta are alittle bias when it comes to ranking school outside of the Atlanta Metero Area. They wre rank in the top 10 when the season started and they should still be ranked. Go Ware Co. all the way to the State Playoff.

By homet

November 5, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

To Cougar Mom…

Same goes for anyone playing Pebblebrook…they played the ENTIRE game and the officials WOULD NOT call a penalty against them!!!

East Paulding played them at Pebblebrook this year and the officiating crew was VERY intimidated by the Pebblebrook team, coach’s, and home crowd…

It was a horrible way to have to play a game!…HOWEVER in spite of the officials, and the Pebblebrook band East Paulding avenged last years loss and won the game!

By Whose your doggy?

November 5, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Go Hoyas!!

By Yo

November 5, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

I can’t argue with your AAAAA rankings based on how the season has gone up to this point. I do believe 1AAAAA in a head to head match up with any of the 2 regions you have ahead of them (top seed on top seed, 2nd seed on 2nd seed, etc.) would fair quite well when all said and done. I am projecting Valdosta will surprise some people in the playoffs. Their only 2 losses coming to Lowndes and Brookwood against one seriously tough schedule. I am thinking the playoffs will have a way of showing who the best regions are and the playoffs are right around the corner. Definitely can’t argue with top regions in AAAA and AAA. I do believe 1AAAA might be a little better than last though.

By FanMan

November 5, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Sometimes when all a team has going for them is the band they have no choice but to do what they can. Personally, from where I come from the bands played the entire game, non stop, and many games were more fun watching the “battle of the bands” than the games themselves. If the band plays, deal with it. Your band can always do the same.

By superman

November 5, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

I want everyone to keep an out for the Balwin Braves down in Milledgeville. That program is on the rise and its been a talent bed in Georgia for quit sometime don’t sleep on them country boys

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

fanman while I respect your opinion I don’t think they had any respect for the teams. While “watching the battle of the bands” may be the best part of the game for you and where you are from, where I am from it shows lack of respect for our team and their own.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

The Original Cougar Mom, and her sidekicks.

Sincere? Yes. Been there. Saw my son’s tears as they lost the big game.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Tod:

AAAAA - you had Region 7 teams in the top ten all season, and you rank the region below Region 1? As you recall, a team from Region 8 smashed Valdosta. How can you rank an entire region based on only one team? Give us something that makes sense, please.

By GwinnettFan

November 5, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

FanMan and Couger Mom,

The Officials can throw the flag if the band is playing while the other team has the ball. It happened in the Ga Dome a few years ago.

I think it was a 10-yard penalty.

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Hey NG 17. Have you already forgotten about last year’s game. Almost the identical situation. North Gwinnett was undefeated, coming off of a bye week, playing Norcross at home and Norcross only beat Collins Hill by two pts. Norcross won 30-10. This year NG is undefeated coming off a bye and Norcross did not play very well against Collins Hill. However this time we are playing in the Devil’s den.

I would not count Norcross out let. We typically play our best g

By HSballfan

November 5, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

It’s got to be tough to evaluate Ware County since 3AAAA appears to have more parity this season than usual. I don’t know if Ware County and Statesboro are not as tough, or if everyone else down there just got better. We’ll know more this weekend after Ware and Statesboro go helmet to helmet.

It’s also hard to size up 6AAAA, since Dekalb County makes everyone play every game inside the region, to save on travel expenses I suppose. Tucker ran St. Pius and Marist off the field but struggled against Mays and Washington. With 12 teams, I’d much prefer a sub-region schedule with at least two games outside region 6. Maybe realignment next year will change things.

By GetOverIt

November 5, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Being a former player myself I can tell you that when your out there in the heat of the battle. You don’t even hear the band playing.

This sounds like a lame excuse to me. Yes it may be tacky but it has no outcome to whats going on down on the field.

Best of luck to all.

By NC FAN

November 5, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

i think region 1 is better than 6. Lowndes could beat Walton or roswell easily. Valdosta probably could as well. there is always good football down there. we will see how region 6 does in the playoffs but i see a region 5 state championship. NORTH COBB VS. HARRISON!!

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

Hey NG17, you appear to have a very short memory. Last year NG was undefeated, coming off of a bye week, rated higher in the polls and in the previous game Norcross barely beat Collins Hill by 2 pts. However we played our best game against NG and beat them soundly 30-10 at NG. This year NG is rated higher in the polls, NG is coming off of a bye week and Norcross barely beat Collins Hill again. But this year the game is in the devil’s den. The last time we played a good team at home with a big defensive line was Grayson and we beat them 24-3.

It should be a good game and I expect both teams to leave everything that they bring on the field. Remember last year Norcross filled up the visitors stands at NG. I hope that NG fans will do the same this year because we want everybody to see this game.

If there happens to be a three way tie the third seed position will be drawn for and the second and fourth will be determined by their head to head record.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

gwinnettfan, thanks so much for being sincere, honestly. there is so much bitterness on the blog you can’t determine who is being sincere or not.

yes, i saw the tears and the looks of sadness on the faces of the boys Friday night as they were walking off the field. such a sad moment. like i said earlier i am not going to blame anyone for the loss but the coach. while i think coach crowder is an awesome coach and he has the respect of every one of his players he made a bad call Friday not which led up to the loss.

oh and thanks for the head’s up on the penalty flag for the band.

By Some Good Teams Gone Early

November 5, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this

Post it on the wall. Here is how the AAAAA playoffs will likely go. Theory and practice are not always in agreement so let’s see what happens on the field

1 – Lowndes, Valdosta. two good teams that get very weak round one opponents. mlk get the home field advantage in round two with valdosta and knock them out. if lowndes gets the home-field advantage in round 3 against north cobb, they go on to the championship game and could win it if they play at home.

2 – stephenson loses to lowndes in round 2. mlk defeats valdosta in round 2 but then loses, at home, to harrison in round 3.

3 – Camden. i like camden if for nothing else they are a well coached team and can keep their game at a high level while playing 8-9 really weak teams during the season. if camden plays like they did in the dome earlier this year they could be back in the dome. if not they lose to norcross (or grayson) in round 3.

4 - neuman defeats coffee in round 2 then loses to brookwood in round 3. east loses to camden in round 2. others one and out.

5 – North Cobb, Harrison. nc has no big game experience but will make it to round 3 against lowndes; only chance they have to win this one is play this round at home; if not, they’re gone. harrison will defeat walton in round 2 and mlk in round 3 but lose to brookwood in the dome.

6 – walton is gone after losing to harrison in round 2. Chat loses to north cobb in round 2 and roswell loses first round to grayson. sprayberry gets lost in atlanta traffic and misses first round game. by the way….who knows if these are the four seeds from this region….ghsa please dump this sub region configuration stuff.

7 – North Gwinnett, Norcross. two good (not great) teams. neither has mproved through the season. region has four really weak teams so their level of competion is not great. number two seed will likely have to go to brookwood for round 2. both could be gone after two rounds; three for certain. 8 – Brookwood, Grayson. could be the sleepers this year. grayson defense will rise to the occasion but not certain about their offense. if grayson gets by norcross in round two they beat camden the following week before losing to lowndes in the dome. brookwood could have big rematch in round 2 with north gwinnett. if brookwood wins it, they could run the table if home field advantage works for them

By Sprayberry a 4 Seed?

November 5, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

I read in one of the blogs that we (Sprayberry) will be the number 4 seed from Region 6. Is this a mathematical given already? We will have similar sub region record as maybe Roswell, Chattahoochee or Centin when the season is over. Help me with this one please.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

I agree with the AAA region rankings, even though regions 6&7 could be a tossup on which is 3 or 4.

By Nuff Saidm

November 5, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

To NC Fan

If Region 1 is better than Region 6, then they’re far better than Region 5,I wouldn’t predict a all Cobb County final since a Cobb team hasn’t won the Title in decades.It takes a good defense,good offense and a lot of luck to get to the finals. May the best team win, anyone of several teams could win in 5AAAAA this year, the play-offs should be fun!!!!

By mikefresh

November 5, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

omg todd you ranked franklin county ahead of oconee county in you region rankings thats weak.

By NC Alumn

November 5, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

North Cobb hasn’t made it out of the 1st round of the playoffs in the history of their school, with the exception of 1979 and I think 1957. After week 10, rankings go out the window, so it doesn’t really matter, does it? That’s the great thing about deciding things on the field (a concept that college football would do well to embrace). The reality is that, this year, North Cobb has some decent-sized linemen to compliment a good core of skill players. That serves them well in Cobb County, where NO ONE has any decent-sized linemen. But, when they get into the playoffs and line up against the Gwinnett and South Georgia teams, they’re going to be in for a rude awakening. EVERYBODY’S BIG and EVERYBODY’S FAST. It’s a whole different class of ball than they’re used to playing. North Cobb should be happy to make it to the 2nd or 3rd round, but there’s no way that they’ll end up being the state champs.

By BwoodFan

November 5, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

My God, how Brookwood wishes we could get North Gwinnett in the second round. You have no idea how ready Brookwood is for that game. NO WAY in hell do they win again.

By Dark Knight

November 5, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Please don’t put the cart before the horse…..(Cougar Mom) While I clearly understand your still trying to search for the answers (blame) as to why Hootch lost, I seriously doubt the playing of the bands did little to disrupt the play.They simply upset you. I’d stay with your original statement that your coach made a very poor decision, as it cost you the game. With all that being said, I understand that all three Region 6-AAAAAB teams all have ONE MORE GAME TO PLAY. In fact, Roswell must beat Centennial, Centennial must beat Roswell and Hootch must beat Milton. So..let’s let the boys play and it will sort itself out….regardless if the bands play or not.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

dark knight..i was just simply stating a fact that the band was disrespectful, plain and simple. i never once blamed the band on Hooch’s loss….check your facts. i have not once veered from my original post this morning….i leave the finger pointing and the blaming to the others….i said i would suck it up and admit defeat…to which i have done….

in the end, yes there is one more game to play and i still don’t doubt my boys….

GO COUGARS!!!!

By JC597

November 5, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

8-AAA is definitely better than its ranking. The fact Stephens and Hart are in 8-AAA should propel the region into the top 5 without saying.

By Observer

November 5, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

I’ve got to agree with “Where’s the Love” - It’s difficult to look at Mays being ranked with the same record as an unranked St. Pius when Pius beat them straight up. St. Pius is currently in second place in the second ranked region in AAAA. Isn’t that worthy of being ranked? Apparently not.

By Go Hornets

November 5, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Cougar Mom - To answer your original question about how the tiebreaker works as I understand it:

It’s based on total margin of victory BETWEEN THE TIED TEAMS. IF Roswell beats Centennial and Chattahoochee beats Milton, then Roswell, Chattahoochee and Centennial will have a round robin tie. Now comes the complex part. Since Chattahoochee beat Roswell by 3, Chattahoochee has 3 margin of victory points and Roswell has -3 points. And since Centennial beat Chattahoochee by 1 point, that gives Centennial 1 point and Hooch -1, for a Hooch total of 2 (3 in the Roswell game and -1 in the Centennial game). Hooch can’t get any more points because Milton won’t be in the tiebreaker (assuming Hooch wins). So going into Friday’s games it’s Chattahoochee 2, Centennial 1, and Roswell -3 in total margin of victory between tied teams. So if Roswell wins, but by 2 or less, Then Centennial gets the 3 seed (since they would still have more margin of victory points than Roswell), and Hooch gets the 2 seed (since they would have more margin of victory points than either of the other two). If Centennial wins, they will get the 2 seed, and Hooch will get the 3 seed. If Roswell wins by 3 or 4, they get the 3 seed, and Hooch gets the 2 seed. And FINALLY, if Roswell wins be 5 or more they get the 2 seed and Hooch gets the 3 seed. CONFUSED YET? Let’s not even get into the possibilities if Milton wins and Roswell loses.

By EPDAD

November 5, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

WAY TO GO ”BEAST FROM THE EAST”

By FanMan

November 5, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Cougar Mom, the bands playing away should all be part of the game and good teams overcome it. Why should a high school game be any different than any other game or do you feel the crowds should not make noise cheering on their defense either which leads to my next comment which is this: the offense can use a silent snap count to snap the ball AND a loud band can also hinder the defense’s ability to call out their assignment changes as the offense shifts or goes in motion. It goes both ways and like someone else said earlier, the players do not even hear the bands. My son plays for a top team and after the game he could not tell you what the bands played, when they played it or what the announcers say. he is focused on what he is doing.

By will

November 5, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

maybe the third round hairrison is overrated thats a joke sry dude.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this

JC597,

You ahve got to be kidding me! as of this morning Hart Co. wasn’t even ranked in the top 10. Furthermore, the only two decent teams in 8AAA is Stephens Co and Hart Co. Franklin Co, Oconee Co. Monroe would never make the playoffs in any other region. To say that they should be ramked ahead of regions like 3,4,5,or 6 is nuts. You take the top 2 teams out of each region and see hoe 8AAA measures up without SC and HC, not very well I’m afraid.

By The Original Cougar Mom

November 5, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

go hornets thanks for trying but i am very, very confused. i am a first time football mom so i will have to wait until friday to find out. thanks again.

fanman i understand your point and i respect it. we (the parents) cheer our team on defense and yes sometimes offense, however, when the ball is in play, we let the team play.

By MLK Band Mom

November 5, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

The ‘MLK Lions’ ALL THE WAY!

By ???

November 5, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Will, I am having a hard time following your comment. What is suppose to happen by the 3rd round and are you saying harrison is overated?

By Confused

November 5, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

All I know is the GHSA need to get things straight with the region alignments. I was trying to fill out a mock playoff bracket and region 6AAAAA really makes that tough. Although if the playoffs were to start tonight some 1st round games that I would like to see. And I only did this for AAAAA teams so sorry everyone else.

Norcross Vs. Marietta Grayson vs. Hooch N.Cobb vs. P’tree Ridge

Rd 2 potential high light match-ups would be.

Lowndes vs Stephenson Walton vs Harrison ML King vs Valdosta Brookwood vs Norcross

Rd 3

N.Cobb vs Lowndes Harrison vs Valdosta Brookwood vs E. Coweta Camden Co. vs N.Gwinette

Thats all I have folks, But those would all be great games in my opinion

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

The Original Cougar Mom: I said that if we lost I would suck it up and admit to defeat.

Only those who predicted Centennial to win that game has a right to crow.

Why are the Bainbridge Bearcats not ranked in AAAA? Their only two losses are to two of the state’s top ranked teams: Cairo (AAA) and Early County (AA). Other teams that are ranked in AAAA with identical records as Bainbridge (7-2) have losses to inferior teams!

I probably have overlooked Bainbridge, although I’m not ready to say the B-Cats should be ranked.

However, I don’t agree that the two teams that have beaten Bainbridge are better than the teams that have beaten the twice-beaten teams that are ranked.

Here are the other two-loss teams that are ranked: Mays (lost to SPX & Tucker), Marist (lost to Mays, Tucker), Westside (Northside, Baldwin). I’d favor those pairs of teams over Cairo & Early County.

But thanks for pointing out Bainbridge’s good season because I do admit I hadn’t paid great attention to it.

hey Todd Turner did not make it out of Region 2-A, Hawkinsville did

and

you ranked franklin county ahead of oconee county in you region rankings thats weak.

Thanks for those corrections, although I hope everyone keeps in mind that I didn’t double-check all those teams in every region. My main point was to rank the regions, not the teams in the regions. But I’m an Oconee County grad, so let’s move the Warriors up in the standings!

totally agree with your ranking of teams in Region 4: That is, NSWR, Baldwin, Westside and Upson as playing in the toughest AAAA classification.

And Griffin also is in that region. So that wasn’t a tough call.

St. Pius beat Mays who beat Marist. we have the same record and deserve to be ranked over Mays. We’re in the playoffs officlay now when everyone doubted us again.

and

It’s difficult to look at Mays being ranked with the same record as an unranked St. Pius when Pius beat them straight up. St. Pius is currently in second place in the second ranked region in AAAA. Isn’t that worthy of being ranked?

Yes, but Mays has played the toughest schedule of the three (Mays, SPX, Marist) because SPX & Marist haven’t played each other. Also, Mays has been competitive in each game, whereas SPX & Marist were not competitive vs. Tucker. Further, Mays beat Cedar Grove, which beat SPX, so head-to-head doesn’t prove which is the better team, just which played better on a given night. It’s the body of work that counts.

As for Marist vs. SPX, there’s no real difference, but the tiebreaker for me was the fact that SPX has won two games it easily could’ve lost (Miller Grove, Washington), while Marist has won only one game like that (Washington). In other words, SPX is a little closer to 6-3 than Marist.

I’m not concerned about how 6-AAAA chooses to break ties in the standings. I have a different criteria.

But the fact that I’m ranking three 6-AAAAA teams and have a fourth one at No. 11 is the best indication of the respect that I have for SPX.

TODD, A Norcross loss to North Gwinnett will cause a 3-way tie for the 2 slot in 7AAAAA. What is the tie breaker for this. I agree with North #1 in region 7 . Norcross did not look sharp vs Collins Hill and North Dee line will be too much for Norcross to handle.

Not sure, but I had heard that a three-way tie will be broken by a drawing. On Thursday, our Chip Saye will do the research on all the region tiebreakers and publish a playoff report. Stay tuned.

want to know how come Ware County Gators (7-2) are not ranked in the top 10. They are other teams that is ranked with 7-2 records and do not have as hard of a schedule as Ware County. … They were ranked in the top 10 when the season started and they should still be ranked.

Good argument, Leon. It’s really impossible sorting out those 7-2 teams. I would not argue w/ anybody who puts Ware in the Top 10, especially when one of Ware’s losses is to a ranked AAAAA team, but the reason I don’t have Ware ranked is a strength-of-region issue that goes back to last season.

I think Regions 4 & 6 are significantly stronger than the rest in AAAA, and therefore they have three teams apiece ranked. Region 3 performed poorly in the post-season last season (1-4), and those teams haven’t played enough non-region games to prove itself this season.

But if I were voting right now, I’d have to say Ware is the team most likely in AAAA to embarrass me by making a great run in the playoffs as an unranked team.

you had Region 7 teams in the top ten all season, and you rank the region below Region 1? As you recall, a team from Region 8 smashed Valdosta. How can you rank an entire region based on only one team? Give us something that makes sense, please.

I feel pretty solid about 5-AAAAA at #1, and Regions 2-3-4 at the bottom, but those other four – 1, 6, 7, 8 – are pretty hard to separate.

But as for R7, once P’tree Ridge lost to Mill Creek (a team that lost to Northview), I began to question how tough this region is. Also, I think R1 goes five deep w/ Warner Robins at #5 (although that’s debatable at times). Not sure I’d call Collins Hill a good team. Really, those two regions are pretty much even, IMO. But if I had an average team, I think I’d take my chances in R7 to make the playoffs over R1.

It’s got to be tough to evaluate Ware County since 3AAAA appears to have more parity this season than usual. … It’s also hard to size up 6AAAA, since Dekalb County makes everyone play every game inside the region.

Good points. Those regions – 3 & 6 – can’t be judged until after the playoffs.

i think region 1 is better than 6. Lowndes could beat Walton or roswell easily. Valdosta probably could as well. there is always good football down there. we will see how region 6 does in the playoffs.

I thought I’d get more second-guessing of having 6-AAAAA at #2. …

Consider, though, that Roswell (a team fighting for its life to make the state playoffs) beat R8 champ Brookwood, and Brookwood crushed Valdosta. Also, 1-AAAAA has only 4-5 good teams. R6 has probably 6-7. By ‘good,’ I don’t mean real good, but teams that can beat you on a given night. The average team in R1 is better, but there’s only 7 teams, so I think it would be easier to make the playoffs out of R1 this season than R6 in AAAAA.

read in one of the blogs that we (Sprayberry) will be the number 4 seed from Region 6. Is this a mathematical given already? We will have similar sub region record as maybe Roswell, Chattahoochee or Centin when the season is over. Help me with this one please.

If Sprayberry finishes in second place in the “Cobb subregion’’ of 6-AAAAA, then Sprayberry is in the state playoffs regardless of what Roswell, Hooch or Centennial do. Plus, Sprayberry whooped Centennial, no? So Sprayberry should go to the dance w/ no guilt attached. Two teams from each subregion quality for state.

8-AAA is definitely better than its ranking. The fact Stephens and Hart are in 8-AAA should propel the region into the top 5 without saying.

But Stephens and Hart are just two teams, and Hart isn’t even ranked. Stephens is a state contender, and Hart can do some damage, but both would’ve been better off playing more tough teams to get them ready.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Alright “TODD HOLCOMB”,This time I feel certain that you do not believe what you have just written. “Region 1AAA is a stronger region than Region 2AAA.”(I am paraphrasing). TODD, I ask you, “In this entire millenium, has any 1AAA team won the state title? How about the semi’s”? You name Cairo, Worth, Monroe, and Westover as the “Big 4”. Maybe in their VERY weak region. I would be surprised if any one of these teams could defeat Harris County or Troup from 2AAA, let alone Carver, Shaw, and LaGrange. TODD, you are going to eat crow on this one. Just do it like a man, when the time comes. Nobody from 1AAA makes it to the semi’s. I will eat crow should that happen. Oh…Yes, I remember Cairo making it to the dome in 2000, and losing to Shaw when both teams were playing in AAAA. Aside from that, what has 1AAA done? Carver wins their play-off bracket with zero competition. They will play either Shaw, North Hall, or LaGrange in the final. (No disrespect to Carrollton nor to Stephens County. This just looks like the year for Carver-Columbus). As for 1AAA, they will be nowhere in the picture.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Slalom: I have 2-AAA ranked No. 1. So are you saying 1-AAA should be lower?

By cj

November 5, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

Todd if I am reading it correctly you do have region 2aaa as the toughest region and region 1-aaa as #2 help me sort this out.

By Vikings Roll

November 5, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Todd Valdosta is a better team than what they showed against Brookwood we all know that. I think we have to flip your region rankings.

I think Lowndes will only have 1 real hurdle on it’s way the championship game. That being North Cobb who might not make it out of the 1st round. That might be the most overrated #1 team I have every seen. If we do meet them in the play-off I see us winning by 20.

I see no competition coming from any team in the semi’s I don’t think N.G bulldogs get past Camden Co.

I see a nice rematch after Harrison blows the doors off of Brookwood. And then the Vikings get there sweet revenge against an over rated Hoyas team.

Lowndes Rolls to the State Title.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

slalom 1, Todd just ranked region 2 the hardest region in AAA, followed by regions 1,7,6,5,4,3,8. I,personally with THOSE rankings. But, if he changed his mind, then you are right, no way region 1 is tougher than region 2. Region 7 may actually be harder than region 1.

By John

November 5, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

I generally agree with your region rankings. However, I would put 7-AAAA above 8-AAAA. The top four teams would rank above everybody except Habersham Central in 8-AAAA, although the bottom of 7-AAAA is awful.

7-AA probably is the worst AA region. There is Calhoun and nobody else.

By Reg 7

November 5, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

NTH Trojans.

I will say I personally would for SURE put region 7 over region 1. The only chance for a team outside of region 2 going the distance would be a region 7 team end of story.

By devil lover

November 5, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

Todd a prominent Gwinnett County coach gave me the following for a tie breaker in region #7.

Option 5 is what we will do if all 3 of us are tied !! We will draw for the #3 spot and then it goes back to head to head for the #2 and #4 spots.

Region By Laws Football tie breaker Section 1: Football 1. Head to head between tied teams. Head to head is defined as percentage against tied teams 2. If tie cannot be broken, then record against teams above tie starting with the highest team. At any point tie is broken, revert back to head to head 3. If tie cannot be broken, mini games involving team tied, or if they select to flip coin (option) 4. Games outside region will not count in tie breaking process 5. If there are sufficient playoff positions,and tie cannot be broken with options 1 and 2, spots will be drawn. Ex. Teams will draw for middle spot,then had to head will determine remaining spots.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

slalom, How do you see the AAA playoffs shaping up? Who do you think will be in the dome this year? My picks are: Carver, Columbus vs. Stephens Co North Hall vs. Shaw.

By will

November 5, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

walton is the state champ this year

By mikefresh

November 5, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

thanks todd for moving oconee up i mean my god they all ready qualifed for the state playoffs as the 3 seed even though they wont make it out of the frist round. franklin county still has to win there final game to get in

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this

Reg7,

Do you have an allegiance to a team in 7AAA? If so, let me know who.

By tholcomb8136

November 5, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

I generally agree with your region rankings. However, I would put 7-AAAA above 8-AAAA. The top four teams would rank above everybody except Habersham Central in 8-AAAA, although the bottom of 7-AAAA is awful.

I do like Rome at #3 in a region, so perhaps so, but the underbelly of 7-AAAA is softer than a kitten, as you said.

By roswell alien

November 5, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

The first Roswell person to try to decipher the 3-way tiebreaker was off by a point on the Chattahoochee-Centennial game.

Here are the scenarios for a 3-way tie, which results if Roswell beats Centennial and Chattahoochee beats Milton.

Roswell wins by 1 point: Centennial wins the sub-region and is seeded 2nd; Chattahoochee is No. 2 in the sub-region and third seed in playoffs.

Roswell wins by 2 points: Chattahoochee 1st, Centennial 2nd; Sprayberry gets 3 seed only if Centennial is 2nd. Centennial would be 4th seed.

Roswell wins by 3 or 4 points: Chattahoochee 1st, Roswell 2nd.

Roswell wins by 5 or more points: Roswell 1st, Chattahoochee 2nd.

Walton is the No. 1 seed regardless; the No. 2 seed from the B sub-region is the No. 3 playoff seed unless it’s Centennial.

There is a very slim possibility of a 3-way tie for second if Centennial beats Roswell and Milton beats Chattahoochee. In that event, Roswell gets 2nd unless Milton beats Chattahoochee by 88 points. Not very likely.

Hope this clears things up, Cougar Mom. No matter what happens in the Roswell-Centennial game, the Cougars make the playoffs unless they lose to Milton. If that happens, they’re out and deserve to be.

To NC fan who believes Region 1 is better than Region 6. Roswell played 2 teams from Region 1 last year in the playoffs, both at neutral sites, and absolutely beat the (choose your favorite expletive) out of both of them. One of the 2 simply quit in the 2nd half, the other was totally outplayed.

Roswell has beaten Brookwood the last 2 times the teams played. Chattahoochee beat Camden County at Camden and Roswell at Roswell. Walton lost by 1 whole point against North Gwinnett and beat Roswell.

The North Fulton/East Cobb AAAAA region used to be pretty lame. Not any more. If Roswell is on its game, I don’t think any team is going to be very thrilled about facing them in the playoffs. The Hornets are far from unbeatable, but someone is going to have to play pretty darn well to beat them.

By Reeze

November 5, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

Todd,I think folks are confused with your rankings.I think a few assume the numbers next to the teams are your rankings ,instead of the numbered region

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

OK, got my user name straightend out …

walton is the state champ this year.

Will moves back into the Top 10 rankings of Poll Talk posters for his stubborn support of the Ray-duz.

How do you see the AAA playoffs shaping up? Who do you think will be in the dome this year? My picks are: Carver, Columbus vs. Stephens Co North Hall vs. Shaw.

We need to put Slalom! on the payroll.

Region 7 may actually be harder than region 1.

Could be right. Just got to figure that if the top teams were really top notch, at least one would play North Hall a tougher game.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Reg 7,

One warning: don’t expect any respect for 7AAA from anyone but slalom. Most of these people think that NE Ga doen’t knowwhat football is. What they don’t realize is that there really isn’t much else to do up here. On Friday nights, nothing else matters up here.

By Reg 7

November 5, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

NTH lets just say that 41-14 thumping hurt… ;-)

By steven maxwell

November 5, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

todd your ranking’s are very weak and some of the people bloging this week is crazy talking about region 8AAA is weak.Ya’ll must be drunk or on something today. 8AAA is the second hardest region to play in 2AAA is the hardest then i would say that 6AAA would be next and 4AAA would follow them.The weak regions are the rest with 7AAA being the weakest bye the way todd what do you think about those indians and poole.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

I think folks are confused with your rankings.I think a few assume the numbers next to the teams are your rankings ,instead of the numbered region

Oh, OK. I think you’ve solved that mystery. Let’s not tell Slalom because he’s more fun when he’s riled.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

Reg 7,

People just don’t realize that North Hall is a machine. They seem to think that Flowery Branch is a patsy. There are going to be a lot of teams that are surprised when they get a look at Jaybo Shaw. Maybe after the first two rounds of the playoffs, people will realize what an accomplishment it was for NH to shut Jaybo and FB down. If people would look at FB record and stats, they would see that nobody else could do it all season. Oh yeah, congrats on breaking back into the top 10 again this week, it should have happened sooner.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

One warning: don’t expect any respect for 7AAA from anyone but slalom.

I think I respect 7-AAA more than most. I had North Hall ranked No. 6 in preseason and drew skepticism. (I also had Hart No. 1, but forget that a minute.) I’d probably have 7-AAA as the No. 2 region if Gainesville hadn’t been a mild disappointment.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Well Todd,

While you are around who do you see going to the Dome this year in AAA?

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

To: “TODD HOLCOMB”, I can live with,”Check is in the mail.” Maybe I read the rankings wrong. It looked to me that you had placed Region 1AAA as AAA’s Top region. I shall read again, and this time, use my reading glasses.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

While you are around who do you see going to the Dome this year in AAA?

I haven’t looked at the draws, but the four that I like best are Carver, North Hall, Cairo, Stephens. Then a drop to Shaw, LaGrange, Carrollton. I don’t think anyone else can win it.

By slalom1

November 5, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

To: TODD HOLCOMB, My bad. Got it now, and you got it right. I wasted all of my ranting over nothing. Is my check still in the mail?

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

While you are around who do you see going to the Dome this year in AAA?

I thought I answered this, so my apologies if it shows up twice. …

I like Carver, North Hall, Stephens and Cairo, but haven’t looked at the draw to know if these four can get there. Then I like Carrollton, Shaw, LaGrange. I don’t think anybody else can win it.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

steven maxwell,

I was wondering when you were going to start whining about 8AAA not getting any respect. Look, I agree that Stephens Co and Hart Co are very good teams, but what do you have after that? Nothing, nada, zilch, zippo. After your Big 2, you have Franklin, Oconee, Apalachee, Monroe Area, and Elbert. NONE of these teams would make the playoffs in any other region. And Todd Holcomb, I wasn’t talking about you whaen I said that nobody gives 7AAA any respect (even though I think that you waited a little too long to get Flowery Branch back into the Top 10).

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Todd,

If LG doesn;t make ti to the Dome this year, it will only be because they wound up in the same bracket as NH. I think that Shaw is better than Cairo, and Flowery Branch could give Stephens Co a tough game. Carver may open the playoffs with Peach Co, and nobody knows how good Henry Co is.

By Todd Holcomb

November 5, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

I wasted all of my ranting over nothing. Is my check still in the mail?

Your ranting is why the check is in the mail. Now go find something else to be miffed about! And do you think Troup would have a shot at Cairo? I’m hoping that comment will set off the Syrup people.

By T.J.

November 5, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Lowndes is the only program I see that has a shot vs. Gwinnett teams. I keep seeing the what ifs or buts Let me, a Grayson bandwagon driver, spell it all out for you. Brookwood has improved every game they play. And in their house, you will probably lose, reference Grayson defeat. They are a complete and balanced team. As is North Gwinnett. Both have good coaching and are balanced. Peachtree Ridge and Roswell have not improved and have been overated. Norcross and Grayson are unbalanced. Norcross has high octane offense and Grayson has swarming defense. But both are too weak on the other side of the ball to go all the way. N. Gwinnett or Broowood vs. Lowndes for the championship? Other option I think is a all Gwinnett championship game.

Todd, you have Brookwood, then Grayson, Parkview, and last you have South Gwinnett in region 8-AAAAA. I think South has pretty much clinched playoff birth due to the fact they beat Parkview. Parkview plays Brookwood last. South has Meadowcreak, which I think they can win against. Think Parkview is done!!!! Grayson will make it to 2nd round again. Not sure if they have the offense to go further. Good luck all Gwinnett—-don’t make me look bad……..

By Marist Fan

November 5, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

To Homet: Mays whipped Marist on the field? You must not have seen the game. Marist moved the ball at will and after seeing the game film, our QB clearly scored on the 3rd down play before their 4th down stop. But hey, they won. Regarding your comment about them disrespecting us on our field, they only disrespected themselves by acting like classless fools. The Marist coaches held back the Marist players from rushing them, as they should. Taunting our fans and stomping our logo takes a lot of guts, I guess? When we beat them by three TDs last year on their field, we congratulated them and went our way. Can you imagine if Marist would have done the same thing? There would have been a race riot and it would have made the front page of the AJC but that’s the hypocritical world we live in. Last, for their coach to say in the AJC article that he didn’t know what happened is an outright LIE! He’s a thug just like their team. And you’re a fool, Homet.

By Roger

November 5, 2007 7:13 PM | Link to this

Todd I can’t believe that you and everyone else thinks that 7-AAA is so tough; what are you basing this on? they play no one outside of there own region, so how are you saying that they are so good?. At least Stephens County has played ranked teams from other regions and classifications ( IE: Hab Central and Dublin) please explain your reason for ranking them so high. Stephens County rocked White County who is by the way from region 7-AAA in a preseason match-up.

By FootBall FAN

November 5, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Todd,

Where exactly are the finals held this year? I thought I read the finals would be at the respective teams home field and the QTRS and Semis would be at the Dome. Is this correct?

Thanks

By HoochDad

November 5, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

This blog is way too much fun - I’m sorry I found it so late in the season.

I wish the GHSA would post the region tiebreak rules online so everyone could see them. The suggested rules mean nothing if each region can just do what they want, and the sub-regions make it that much worse. Hopefully they’ll do away with the stupid sub-regions with the re-alignment next year.

As far as the band playing - as long as the GHSA bylaws state (which they do) that the band should’t play during live ball situations, then they shouldn’t play. Would it have made a difference in the score in the Hooch-Centennial game? No - but Centennial’s coach and band director I’m sure are both aware of the rules. They were asked to stop playing and they didn’t. Props to the football players on both teams who played their hearts out, but boos to the Centennial Band which demonstrated a total lack of class and sportsmanship.

This will be a rare occasion that Hooch roots Roswell, but we really hope the Hornets kick their collective backsides and keep Centennial out of the playoff picture.

By cool cell

November 5, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

Todd,……Jarmon Fortson WR Carver-Col is the best WR in the state of Georgia, in my mind….with that said all i hear about is B.Butler kid, and the kid from Bannker, and the kid from Ceder grove. Todd could rank the top 5 WR’s in the state of Georgia?

By HoochDad

November 5, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this

Rounds 1 and 2 are hosted by the team with the higher seed. Round 3 is where the size of the stadium comes into play. Both the semis and finals are at the Dome this year.

By glenn brown

November 5, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

have everybody forgot about the griffin high bears

By Hoya

November 5, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this

Vikings Roll… Over rated? Do you remember us coming to house and taking it to you. I believe we came down there, waited for the game to start and then simply took you behind the wood shed. Did you make it past midfield all game? If that means we are over rated, I’ll be over rated all the way thru the playoffs… HOYA

By Centennial band mom

November 5, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this

Dear Original Cougar Mom, You are wrong. Our Band did NOT play the entire game nor did we play the entire time your team had the ball. In fact at the beginning of the game your announcer made a rude comment by saying “Centennial Band, please do not play during the game.” We took that to mean he didn’t want us to play during the entire game even during time outs. We actually had one Centennial football mom come over and ask us why we weren’t playing more. Our drum major watched and when the ball was snapped they stopped. Sounds like you are somewhat bitter that our team won. It was one of the most exciting games I’ve ever been to and both teams played their hearts out, we just came out on top. We are thrilled with our guys, who at the beginning of the year weren’t expected to even win much of anything. By the way, the Cougar band played too and no one on our side complained. You have a great team, you just lost a tough one. Let’s see what happens this weekend.

By NTH Trojans

November 5, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

Roger,

I don’t put a lot of stock in preseason games, but if you are going there, NH beat HC in preseason,too. You want to compare SC to WC, and I never said that WC could beat SC. Heck, I’ve never said a bad word about Stephens Co, as a matter of fact, I’ve been talking about how good they are all season, when nobody else would give them any respect. They made me a believer after they beat Hab Central. As for NH not playing outside of their region, if you would do your research, then you would find out that NH schedule was made before the region was split into subregions. Therefore, they had no choice but to play the schedule that was given them. Also, when ranking regions, it’s not just the best team or top 2 teams in that region, it’s the whole region that’s taken into consideration. I know that you are not telling me that the THREE teams that are 4-5 right now in 8AAA (two of which will make the playoffs), could make the playoffs in 7AAA over NH, FB, Gainesville, Chestatee, or White Co, all of whom have WINNING records. There ranking in AAA is correct and should not be changed.

By Centennial band mom

November 5, 2007 7:48 PM |