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By Justin

December 16, 2006 10:43 PM | Link to this

How can u have a championship game without crowning a champion? Something needs to be changing with the current format. This is not right!

By Scott

December 16, 2006 10:50 PM | Link to this

The rules need to change. A tie in a championship game is ridiculous! Why even play the game?

By former ga hs fan

December 16, 2006 10:57 PM | Link to this

I am honestly in disbelief. who in their right mind would allow a state championship game to end in a tie. I honestly feel sick to my stomach. Being a roswell fan and former player, I would honestly rather give ptree ridge the championship in order to keep this from ever happening to another high school player. an absolute disgrace to competition and the ghsa should be ashamed.

By NHSeagle1

December 16, 2006 11:00 PM | Link to this

Gimme a break - You have overtime games during the regulat season ( NHS d. WR 2005 27-21) and you DON’T have ovetime for STATE Playoffs. GHSA get in the game.

By root4au

December 16, 2006 11:03 PM | Link to this

What a joke for a championship game to end in a tie..

By The next roswell freshman.

December 16, 2006 11:06 PM | Link to this

I’m going to Roswell next year and if we can’t get the rules right, that’s absulutely insane. I can’t believe they can’t make a tiebreaker for the state championship.

By Larry D,

December 16, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

yes there needs to be a rule change to have a true state champion.

By Dave

December 16, 2006 11:12 PM | Link to this

Pat Dye would be happy, but I don’t think anyone outside of Auburn understands thw point in going through an entire season plus playoffs, then not crown a champion. How must the players have felt when time expired? Gotta’ love Georgia.

By noneya

December 16, 2006 11:12 PM | Link to this

If left up to the GHSA, they would resolve the tie with a coin flip.

No one starts the season in August to be co-champions in December. CHANGE THE RULES!

By greyhounds mama

December 16, 2006 11:13 PM | Link to this

Tie?!!!!!!!!!!!! What is the ghsa thinking?!!!! Bovine excrement. This is not a YMCA Preschool game!!!!!

By noneya

December 16, 2006 11:14 PM | Link to this

Okay, I have a coin. Since Roswell was the home team, I will let Roswell make the call. Heads or Tails?

By Who's Your Daddy

December 16, 2006 11:15 PM | Link to this

How lame. Change the rules and have a tie-breaker, Roswell or “The Ridge” should have had the opportunity to play for the championship. Either one of them would have deserved it.

By DHD

December 16, 2006 11:16 PM | Link to this

Is this some sort of politically correct version of a state championship. The GHSA is afraid it’s going to hurt the feelings of the players if they don’t let both teams win?? Come on guys, get with the program or let somebody else take over.

By Jeff

December 16, 2006 11:21 PM | Link to this

This is absolutely unbelievable. In Florida we do not even have ties in the regular season. We employ the Kansas Tiebreaker, which is a lot like the NCAAF tiebreaker but teams alternate possession at the opponents 10 yard line. It’s a great system. I suggest the GHSA take a look at it.

By observer

December 16, 2006 11:22 PM | Link to this

I agree with these comments. How can you have these kids grind it out for 6 months (practice started in July) and then not let them settle it? What is the reason for no tie breaker?

It did look like the coaches then played for the tie when we got down to a minute to go. I guess it would be a shame to actually lose by going for broke. But come on GHSA! What are you thinking?

By Matt Bowers

December 16, 2006 11:23 PM | Link to this

Both teams looked like they had lost at the end of the game. Is that what all of their hard work was supposed to pay off for? It is a STUPID rule and whomever thought up this rule in the first place must not have played football.

By Ubiquitous

December 16, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

Let the politically correct rejoice and be glad…

Why even have a football season?

By GHSA

December 16, 2006 11:26 PM | Link to this

Those two teams played their hearts out tonight!!! and to see both teams just standing around with their heads down is not a way to end a great season for both teams.I can’t believe some of the rules you have in place for seeding,home field advantage for some and not for others,and this rule that championship games can end in a tie? Shameful!!!!

By Rob

December 16, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

A High School State Championship needs to be won outright by one team, not two. I don’t believe that a tie is the practice in most other states. While an overtime outcome is sweet to one team and bitter to the other, it produces one clear winner and champion.

GHSA - Please change the rule to use Overtime, if necessary, to decide one champion team in football, as well as other sports.

By Charlton County fan

December 16, 2006 11:31 PM | Link to this

What a sad day in high school football when we can’t crown a true champion…why have a playoff system if we can’t have a winner…GHSA needs to revamp their outdated and ridiculous bylaws…..

By noneya

December 16, 2006 11:31 PM | Link to this

Dang it…my coin landed on its side! Must be a GHSA coin too!

By Matt

December 16, 2006 11:32 PM | Link to this

Online petition everyone. We can set up a link and stick it right to the GHSA. Ties and co-championships are everything wrong with sports on any level. We love sports for the competition and deciding a winner is necessary. This is not little league, Pop Warner, or rec sports. This is high school. “The true American sportsman would rather lose than tie”

By Matt

December 16, 2006 11:33 PM | Link to this

Bazemore and Hyder are rolling in their graves tonight.

By noneya

December 16, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

It ain’t no fun kissin’ your sister. (unless you’re from Haralson County)

By Mr. T

December 16, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

Firstly Roswell - you are lucky that it ended in a tie and that you can call yourself championships. If it wasn’t for the 2 missed field goals from Peachtree Ridge in the first place, you would be LOSERS, so SHUT UP and be greatful.

Secondly, you should all be ashamed for desecrating McEachern High School’s field by throwing your empty containers onto the field. I hope that McEachern bills Roswell for the clean up effort. You are a bunch of nasty PIGS.

You are a disgrace.

-a Teacher at McEachern HS.

By GO DAWGS!!

December 16, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

First off play the games in the DOME Secondly that is terrible..why even play the game if there isno true champ……LETS START A PETITION haha

Anyways GOOOOO DAWGS!!!!!

By NHSeagle1

December 16, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

Roswell’s coach Tim McFarlin said it was an “empty feel’n” to let the game end in a tie, yet he took a knee to let the game end that way— Hello— Flutie to Phalin- throw it up anything may happen! OVERTIME is the only way to settle these games. These young men work way too hard for too long to let the GHSA determine who wins- loses or uh ties. I guess this is some more of GHSA’s “neurtal site” policy.

By Marist Alum

December 16, 2006 11:46 PM | Link to this

This is ridiculous. My team lost 30-6, and they surely would have felt the same way if the game had ended 30-30. So, this means that you can look at a dejected high school football player, and not know if his team had tied the state championship or lost by 24.

And here I thought settling ties via penetration was a joke.

By NFL fan

December 16, 2006 11:57 PM | Link to this

Can you imagine the PITTSBURG STEELERS sharing their CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHY with the SEATTLE SEAHAWKS? SOUNDS CRAZY DOESN’T IT….GSHA get a clue!!!!

By hornets

December 16, 2006 11:58 PM | Link to this

can someone tell me how we cant tie in the first game of the year roswell beat mceachern in overtime but in the biggest game of the guys career u can tie its ridiculous if i was a senior i would not have left the field

By MJ

December 17, 2006 12:02 AM | Link to this

How come the state has overtime in the regular season but not the playoffs? Talk about backward but I guess that is Georgia for you. I know, it must be left wing liberals making the rules so everyone gets a trophy. That way nobody gets their feelings hurt if they lose.

By RightOnPeachtree

December 17, 2006 12:03 AM | Link to this

This should’ve been fixed when Hawkinsville and Clinch tied a few years ago. It was a joke then and should’ve been changed the next day. But NOOOOOOOOO…here we are again with the same ridiculous outcome — in two of the five championship games.

Change this rule — IMMEDIATELY! Do not pass go. Do not collect $200 until you CHANGE THIS RULE.

By wilson

December 17, 2006 12:05 AM | Link to this

B****** -cochamps why the hell is the championship gthe only game ever that u can tie in. what kida dumbass made this rule. and once they realize its wrong just change it then and do the overtime, when both teams stay on the feild and the two sides of fans stay and chant overtime together there is a problem. is there one good reason for a tie instead of oevrtime?

By eaglefan

December 17, 2006 12:09 AM | Link to this

the ghsa should be ashamed to allow two state class co-chaps.totally ridiculous.i was watching the aaaaa game on television,at the end of the game no one cheered,fans didnt storm the field,neither coach was gatoraded,things you”d expect to see in a season finally, the fans only booed, and booed, and booed, what a waste not only for peachtree ridge and roswell,but for all aaaaa schools ,that weight trained,ran sprints and sweated buckets of sweat in spring and summer practices and knocked heads all fall.this should never be allowed to happen again.another thing as a coach,you should always play to win.if you’ve got 50 plus seconds on the clock.4th and inches ,one time out left,in a championship game ,you go for it ,air it out ,and hope for the best.YOU DON’T PUNT THE BALL AWAY AND SETTLE FOR A TIE!.when he settled for a tie ,he let his entire team down,he quit on them.you either win or lose ,to me a tie is a loss,and apparently to the roswell and peachtree ridge fans, after hearing their displeasure with the result of the game, maybe the coach of peachtree ridge should attend a coach’s clinic at northside or peach co. highschools they could enlighten him on how to win a game.next year maybe the valdosta schools ,warner robins,camden county or some other aaaaa program that knows how to win a game will return next year…….NORTHSIDE EAGLES!

By fanofthegame

December 17, 2006 12:14 AM | Link to this

Co-Champions in a State Championship game!!! What a bunch of ka ka!!

By RidgeFan

December 17, 2006 12:16 AM | Link to this

Mr. T., you are the one who is a disgrace. For an anonymous McEachern teacher (yah right!), why don’t you learn how to spell before dumping your crappy attitude and incorrect facts on this blog. Clearly the emotions ran high on both sides, and from what I witnessed, the littering was limited to a few dozen distraught Roswell and Peachtree fans.

By Whatthu?

December 17, 2006 12:18 AM | Link to this

Abso-frickin-lutely there should be a winner. At the end of the game no team looked happy or excited and the fans certainly weren’t. I was there pulling for a team and I would have rather the other team won than it be a tie. What a let down.

By Michael T

December 17, 2006 12:19 AM | Link to this

Typical of public school these days - no-one is a winner therefore everyone is a LOSER.

By bob

December 17, 2006 12:19 AM | Link to this

after the games both sides were chanting Bullst, Bullst, bulls**t, and overtiem overtime overtime.

change the g******* rule

By russ

December 17, 2006 12:20 AM | Link to this

This is a serious mistake for the GHSA. It makes no sense that you have overtime for games during the regular season but the game that can crown a champion doesn’t. I feel that it robs the kids. Let them play in overtime to determine a champion. Can you imagine the memories that an overtime championship game would provide for someone that participates in a game like that. This is truly an insult to the kids that suited up back in August and battled through hot GA summer heat to obtain a goal. They now have an empty feeling.

By dan

December 17, 2006 12:22 AM | Link to this

Personally after being at that game, I agree with all the comments. Both of those teams really played lousy. Neither one of these teams are all that great in my opinion. AAAAA can no longer say they are the toughest class. Don’t get me wrong both Roswell and Peachtree Ridge played well when it counted, but tonight they both looked like a crap. Congrats on a good season I guess, but I don’t think either one of these teams will ever be confused with those great Parkview, Valdosta or Thomas County Central championship teams.

By Ridger

December 17, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this

Jim? Jim? Where are you? Now those future Pulitzer winners at the Peachtree Ridge Roar will have something to write about. They can write about what it means to…uh, well…TIE.

By Rule Man

December 17, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this

It’s amazing how people who don’t know about a rule that’s been around for years want to whine about it when they all of a sudden fancy themselves “football fans” just because a school near you was involved. Get over it. It’s a rule, and you Johnny-Come-Latelys need to get over yourselves.

By Mr noT

December 17, 2006 12:24 AM | Link to this

Dear Mrs T,

The fans from BOTH teams were disgracing the field by throwing trash NOT just Roswell fans.

By Dawg91

December 17, 2006 12:25 AM | Link to this

I hope someone copies this blog and faxes it over to the GHSA every day until they change this. I loved every second of the hs playoffs since last weekend… until tonight

By Rule Man

December 17, 2006 12:26 AM | Link to this

Hey Michael T. Private schools also play in the GHSA, and there would have been a tie if one of them had been involved. Learning some facts might help you in the future.

By Dan Mac

December 17, 2006 12:26 AM | Link to this

That was horrible!

It was mildly amusing to hear the RHS stands chanting “bullsh**”.

That was a horrible way to end a season… re-do anyone?

By No Champion

December 17, 2006 12:27 AM | Link to this

no champion should exist when there’s a tie. they’re both #2. the roswell coaches showed no guts when they instructed their team to take a knee at the end of the game. that signified they yielded to peachtree ridge and they will feel like losers their entire life for it. play overtime in future and while gsha is making improvements, get away from the stupid home field advantage for all classifications during the play-offs.

By to eagle fan

December 17, 2006 12:33 AM | Link to this

eagle fan, you’re an idiot. if ptr went for and didn’t make the first down, roswell kicks the winning field goal. their best chance was to punt and then get an interception deep in roswell territory. they didn’t expect roswell to whimp-out and take a knee even though they had time for 2 and possibly 3 plays. stick with your lower classification ball down there at ns-wr.

By grady mcgill

December 17, 2006 12:33 AM | Link to this

why would they not have some kind of a tie breaker. these kids desired a winner not a tie

By Austin

December 17, 2006 12:35 AM | Link to this

A tie in a State Championship game???Thats like the super bowl ending in a tie, or the national championship game. i mean wat do you get half a ring or half a trophy. You worked for months, in the weight room, watchin film, and practicin to end in a tie. Dont get me wrong both teams played great but a tie is not right. its like kissin ur sister, just wrong.

By Nice Cow Patty Field

December 17, 2006 12:41 AM | Link to this

The only positive that came out of the AAAAA game was maybe the folks responsible for the Houston County/Warner Robins/Northside WR football field saw what a playing surface should be. That was not much better that a cow pasture that Marist and NS-WR played on Friday night. Mooo, mooooo.

By tim

December 17, 2006 12:42 AM | Link to this

f*** this b******.

By Jay

December 17, 2006 12:45 AM | Link to this

I earned a NJ state championship back in 1988. yes, “earned” with a winner and a loser in the final game to determine who “earned” the right to hold the tile for that year! You go through two-a-days, study film, puke your guts out on the field, only to end up in a tie. My son will not play to a tie if an when he gets there…we will move out of state if we have to! These kids don’t deserve a tie. Someone needs to hold a “scrimmage” game between the two teams to determine the winner, even if it’s not on the “books”!

By Asif

December 17, 2006 12:46 AM | Link to this

Well, I’ve heard the reason there is no OT in the final is because a kid committed suicide after missing a FG in OT of a championship game a few years ago, so yeah. I completely stand behind the GHSA for looking out for a player’s safety, but what if this were rounds one or two? Then what would happen? You can’t have BOTH teams advance.

Also, I dunno if Coach Mac thought the game would go into OT which is why he called for a knee, or if he wanted to create some controversy- if that was his goal, he sure did acheive it. It’s no harm to bomb it to 84 or 15 with 22 seconds left though.

And although I was going for Roswell (cause I am a student there), I personally think we should be happy wiht out win cause it’s not that Dustin played bad, but there defense shut down the passing game. Meaning, had we gone into OT, either PRHS’s defense or offense would have out-played us and been the ONLY state champions for ‘06. Not cool.

By Scott

December 17, 2006 12:46 AM | Link to this

If the GHSA can’t make a dollar…They won’t listen. Maybe they should give the 6000+ at McEachern their money back…

By Only #2s

December 17, 2006 12:46 AM | Link to this

roswell is probably glad to get out with a tie; they were total out-played in the second half and they gave up at the end. also this is another example of the liberals in our educational systems. they want to make certain everyone feels good about themselves, all are winners and they all sit around a campfire hold handks and sing songs. ties are not what kids will run into in life so teach them to be the best you have to dig down deep and win.

By C. B.

December 17, 2006 12:48 AM | Link to this

GSHA. Gee Sorta Half Assed. Of course there needs to be overtime!

By OOOPS

December 17, 2006 12:55 AM | Link to this

Just goes to show you what can happen when you let two Atlanta Area schools play each other in a final, NO CONFIDENCE, NO GUTS, NO WINNERS!

By Rule Man

December 17, 2006 12:58 AM | Link to this

Hey Only#2s Looks like you need to learn some facts as well. The first tie in a state championship game in GA was in the 1950s. Were the “liberals” to blame then? And if you’ve ever met the good old boys that run the GHSA, you’d know that most of them are a little to the right of Attila the Hun.

By RidgeDaddy

December 17, 2006 12:58 AM | Link to this

Curtis, you’re right. It is such a shame that a terrific game like this one tonight had to end w/ the 2 teams kissing their sisters. Of course the way the 2nd half went, the teams probably feel very different about the tie. PTR made a great comeback to gain the tie, while Roswell had to hang on for dear life to bearly hang on to the tie. But after talking w/ fans from both sides on the way out of the game, I got the definite feeling that absolutely no one was totally satisfied w/ the final outcome.

Hats off to Roswell - they were definitely the best team the Ridge played this year. Taliaferro is a terrific QB, and RB Daniels has incredible heart! But the Lions again showed tonight what has made them so good this year - an offense that makes great adjustments, and a SUPER defense - the best in the state! And Coach Armstrong and his staff made great adjustments tonight as they certainly outcoached the Hornets’ staff tonight.

Well done, both teams! But GHSA, please wake up & smell the coffee - this ridiculous tie rule HAS TO CHANGE!

By Curt Moore

December 17, 2006 01:04 AM | Link to this

As the RHS QB took a knee, the fans were anticipating the beginning of a playoff to determine the winner. We were flabergasted to hear that the game was over. Co-Champs neither team was celebrating. Something is missing when two teams “share” a championship. GHSA needs to change this ridiculous rule.

By BULLSHT

December 17, 2006 01:04 AM | Link to this

the ghsa shoudl be castrated

By Bradley

December 17, 2006 01:06 AM | Link to this

during the regular seasons ties are not allowed. teams will continue to play the game out. IN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP they leave it as a tie. Whos the best team in class 5a Ga football. The question is still unanswered. why did we have the game in the first place then. TO make money or declare a winner?

By PRSH

December 17, 2006 01:09 AM | Link to this

“Pat Dye would be happy, but I don’t think anyone outside of Auburn understands thw point in going through an entire season plus playoffs, then not crown a champion. How must the players have felt when time expired? Gotta’ love Georgia.”

Just great. I’m an Auburn fan, I go to ptree ridge. It’s an empty feeling for sure. The champion wins the championship game. That didn’t happen this year and it’s a damn shame.

By Dawg91

December 17, 2006 01:16 AM | Link to this

Anyone who watched all of the playoffs now knows one certainty in Georgia HS football.. Northside-Warner Robbins is #1.

Go Dawgs, beat VT! and congrats to the hoops Dawgs for the W over Gonzaga! at least they didn’t tie

By To Rule Man

December 17, 2006 01:30 AM | Link to this

who cares what happened in the 1950’s. GHSA is still in the 1950’s in some respect. and Attila the Hun….more like their Attila the Hers. GHSA, show some ##$%^&* and fix the play-off mess related to ties and play neutral field each round. Until then GHSA, hold hands and sing Kum Ba Yah.

By RoswellFan

December 17, 2006 01:34 AM | Link to this

I go to Roswell and was at the game in the stands, and the Peachtree Ridge players were pumping up * THE ROSWELL CROWD* as they cheered “O-ver-time”. Niether team wanted it to end that way.

By KT

December 17, 2006 01:34 AM | Link to this

Allowing for overtime seems most important in the state championship, of all games. How can teams and fans feel excited about a tie? We need closure.

By congrats prhs

December 17, 2006 01:39 AM | Link to this

don’t come onto this blog saying that warner robbins is #1. we beat you fair and square. no ot needed. so shut your mouth. And….the rule is outrageous. the life of one athlete who decided to kill himself because he messed up shouldnt have to punish players like it did tonight. i dont see in the paper, kids killing themsevles because they messed up.

By To Jay, Shhhhhh

December 17, 2006 01:41 AM | Link to this

Dear Jay, A word of advice, don’t tell anyone down here that you won a NJ high school football championship. They will not be able to keep a straight face. NJ football does not impress anyone that has played football in a true football state. i.e. FL, GA, TX. If you are really from NJ, you may want to continue on to FL or head back north.

By rockdale coach

December 17, 2006 01:41 AM | Link to this

Just so you know, all GHSA regular-season games do not go to overtime. Rockdale County was involved in a game early this season that ended in a tie. The teams were tied at the end of regulation, and with everyone expecting a coin toss or something, an announcement was made that the game was ending in a tie, due to the GHSA rule that teams in different classifications are not allowed to play overtime. Both teams were very deflated that night, so i can not imagine the feelings one might have in the state championship game. Apparently, the GHSA does not allow overtime in those games because a winner is unnecessary. Those games have no effect on playoff positioning at all, unlike the same-class non-region games that come in as tiebreakers (this was the main reason Heritage did not make the playoffs last season). So in summary, if the GHSA determines it is unnecessary to have a winner, or it is not important, then no overtime is played. Tells you what they think of the state championship game.

By big boi

December 17, 2006 01:42 AM | Link to this

this is trash,who eva made this rule should go kill theyself

By Roswell Student

December 17, 2006 01:50 AM | Link to this

WOW Mr. T. is a DUMB@$$. both sides threw things onto the field, there were just more Roswell fans, and you can’t say that Roswell would have lost, there was a high school game recently where a team came back and won from a 41 point defecit in 4! MINUTES! how can u predict the outcome of a “new game” that is tied to start off with?

By Dawg91

December 17, 2006 01:54 AM | Link to this

To Congrats PRHS - NORTHSIDE Warner Robbins, you illiterate hillbilly. That team would’ve beaten anyone in any classification the way they man-handled a very good Marist team last night.

By HEY RULE MAN YOURE RETARDED

December 17, 2006 01:55 AM | Link to this

You talk about all these Johnny-come-lately football fans, there is no way you are a football fan or know anything about sports at all. No fan would ever want a tie. We play sports to WIN, not tie. At the begining of a game it is already a tie, athletes go out there and give it their all to get away from a tie. Why would anyone back up the GHSA. It also does not matter if it is a rule or a law, if it’s wrong, then IT IS WRONG! Rules require changing as people become smart and realize the rule is stupid. Don’t forget at one time it was a law that women could not vote and prior to that there was a law saying that one human could own another and confine him to slavery, do you think those laws should still be around??? NO, just like those rules needed changing so does this one. It is our responsibility and our right to complain and to help bring about change! Try not be be so stupid next time you post something that everyone can see.

By a ridge student

December 17, 2006 02:12 AM | Link to this

I know what I will be doing the next couple of months in class; it will mostly inclue spamming emails to the GHSA about the rule. Yes, this is immature.. but hell, who is more childish? The liberal who won’t allow an outright win so that feelings wont be hurt, or the kid complaining about the rule?

The thing that p** me off most about the ending of the game was that they wouldn’t let us rush the field to congratulate our players. Even if it was a tie, our classmates played their hearts out to bring the title home. They deserved at pat on the back, people to lift them out of the hipocricy bull** that spews from our HS rules. Telling us, the fans, that we weren’t allowed the feel like winners ruined the whole prospect of the game. Why come out to watch a game that begins in a tie and ends in one?

By TO ASIF

December 17, 2006 02:13 AM | Link to this

I am sorry about that kid killing himself a could of years ago, but come on, protecting the kids safety??? This kid suposedly commited suicide because he missed the kick in overtime? if his team were down by 2 with 3 seconds on the clock at the end of regulation and he missed it, would the outcome have been any different? NO. Suicide usually stems from depression, leaving the game instead of half of the players on the feild being depressed, they were all depresed, so all that really happened was the odds were increased. Everyone looses sometimes, and thats life! You have to deal with it, and learn to cope with loss is a major part of growing up. People like you are damaging to the future society, because you want to protect the kids and treat them all like babies. These kids are 17 and 18 years old isn’t it time they grow up and learn to loose. Eventually they are not going to have mommy and daddy to look out for them, teach them how to look out for themselves, so they dont loose at life when they grow up.

By former roswell student

December 17, 2006 02:18 AM | Link to this

For the record, both sides had students throw trash onto the field.

While the ghsa made sure that no one felt like losers, they also insured that neither team felt like winners. Both teams were robbed their chance to be CHAMPIONS. I do not think most people were even aware of the absurd rule. I sat next to several recently graduated RHS football players, and none of them knew. That was the biggest let-down and disappointing ending to any game I’ve ever watched. (Being a Chicago Cubs fan, I’ve had my share!)

By G

December 17, 2006 02:21 AM | Link to this

Hmmm…a tie? this reminds me a lot of that all-star game a few years back when Bud Selig declared the game to end in a tie and neither the NL or AL team won; but at least they got some kind of a chance in overtime…..

By juice

December 17, 2006 02:27 AM | Link to this

Wow , what an ending for a classification that was in disaray all year long.we are used to powerhouses camden co.,lowndes,brookwood , winning championship games, but we get Ptr punting away a chance to win.4 down and inches the tall qb could have fallen down and got a first down.and got close to even get a field goal with a couple good passes.if you did not get the first,oh well,roswell gets a field goal and wins, at least you go down fighting and somebody wins.u guys talkin about the ghsa.you need to look at this coach from ptr.parkview please get strong again so u can show them how its done

By observer

December 17, 2006 02:30 AM | Link to this

I’m amused to be told Roswell was the best team PTR played this year since they lost what, 4 games?
Since the “rockdale coach” is offering the only reason why there is no OT then it must be right: Complete indifference? How can that be in the State of Georgia? There are people in this state that have named their children “Bulldog” and “Uga”. And why do they have the game if the outcome doesn’t matter. Is it only about the money? I thought at least High School Football wasn’t just about that.

By Tammy

December 17, 2006 02:50 AM | Link to this

Georgia is home to some of the top football players in the country every year, but Georgia is the laughing stock of high school football across the country because of this one stupid rule. Mr. Swearingen, please get a clue.

By Sports Analyst- Fox Sports Net

December 17, 2006 03:02 AM | Link to this

I saw the game on T.V. and to see a hard fought battle like that end in a tie is sad. Students on both sides attended the game in hopes of rushing the field after their team won a state title, and the players played the game in hopes of experiencing the feeling of what it feels like to be a champion. The students and the players were robbed of all the implications that come with a true championship game.

By Chris T.

December 17, 2006 03:23 AM | Link to this

I’m a Roswell Hornets Fan. Been to every game this season and for you people to say we were lucky to even get a championship is lame. Considering we came out to have a better record and also been doubted many times that we werent even supposed to be there just proves you all we got heart.Whats really lame is peachtree didnt seem to really complain about it as much as the hornets and mainly way bc they wanted an easy way out saying they are champs and yes they were coming back in 4th but doesnt mean you count the game out. We will see what happens next year considering peachtree will be losing alot of good players and we hornets will only lose a few.This whole tie thing is b.s. to begin with. These players on both teams work there asses off to get here. Fans from both teams supported every game to get where they are now all ended up to being a tie. I think its a load of crap and all that GHSA cares about is getting there money. But like i said we will see what happens next year. Keep that in mind.Peace

By Rana0223

December 17, 2006 04:05 AM | Link to this

All I can say to Roswell and to the rest of the state of Georgia is it took us 4 years to bring a championship home…oh, by the way we’ll be back next year.

By fan of the game

December 17, 2006 04:13 AM | Link to this

Hey OOOPS! Where was your team tonight? These boys played their hearts out while your team sat around on some stool drinking moonshine and holding your sister by the waist.

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 05:29 AM | Link to this

Firstly, let me reiterate - ALL you ROSWELL people are a bunch of cry babies. The fact of the matter is that if PR hadn’t missed those 2 field goals early in the 1st half, you would be the loser of the game. So quit your belly-aching and act like an adult. Be greatful that you share the title.

Secondly, again, let me reiterate. Roswell was the only side to throw crap on the field at the end of the game. I hope that GHSA fines Roswell and makes you pay the clean up bill. You should be ashamed of yourselfs.

Atleast PR had the balls and guts for their fans to be clean and not act as if they are on the Jerry Springer show.

Thirdly - You would have gotten more props from people for trying to throw a hail mary with 14 seconds left, instead of taking a knee and being a pansy. The score was tied anyway, so it was worth a shot. What the hell was wrong with the coaching? Don’t blame others before you look at yourself.

One more thing. Hey #57 - Must you take your helmet off after every play, throw it down on the ground and be pathetic?

By Moose

December 17, 2006 05:32 AM | Link to this

Time is a great teacher. Today many players and fans are disappointed that they did not “win” the state championship in football. Three teams are forever forced to live as losers, when in fact they are the best of the best, but came up a few points short in a competitive game. We must not lose our perspective because in time all will be able to realize that all the qualities of a winner enabled them to reach the championship game and compete as the very best in their classification. Everyone want to win, but it is dedication, effort, and commitment to excellence that makes champions not having one more point than an opponent on a given night. I watched both games that ended in ties today. All four teams played with great intensity, but were unable to score that single point to “win”. We need to learn to realize just how great this experience has been and to acknowledge that on this night neither was destined to lose. The game was played to determine a winner. The final outcome of the Dublin-Charlton Co. game and the Roswell-Peachtree Ridge game was that on this night there were no “losers”. Time will clearly demonstrate that only champions competed, so fate intervened—young men: savor the moment, this night has been a great achievement for you all.

By Lamar

December 17, 2006 06:30 AM | Link to this

Just one question: do those folks who sit on the GHSA have a high school degree?

By Bell Bottom Boy

December 17, 2006 07:10 AM | Link to this

Absurd! That’s the only way to describe the rule of no overtime. So it makes sense to have a championship game, and not end up with one? Give me a break, what left wing bureaucrat fool thought this up?

By Tim Smith

December 17, 2006 07:12 AM | Link to this

Only in GA would a backwards rule like this exist..Ga neds to get with the times…Does the superbowl end in a tie….NO, nor does any other sport…The rule is backwards like the state is…Ga catch up with the rest of the nation

By RG

December 17, 2006 07:54 AM | Link to this

The GHSA has fallen in line with the “feel good” mentality that has taken over our country. I see that Moose has also sipped some of their liberal kool aid. You said it best Tim, “The rule is backwards like the state is”. Enough said.

By David F

December 17, 2006 08:25 AM | Link to this

If winning doesn’t’ matter why keep score! Enough said, the rule needs to change. I tie leaves everyone with a feeling of emptiness

By steve

December 17, 2006 08:27 AM | Link to this

isn’t that nice. everybody is a winner, nobody is a loser. yeah, like that’s a rel life lesson. must be a bunch of wimps on the board. what a crock. why even have a chapionship game if that’s what the end result could possibly be. i wonder how the players, coaches, parents feel? i know how i feel as a fan…disgusted, shocked, and absolutelu flabegasted that the “authorities’ could endorse such an idiotic rule. this is the same lame, liberal bozos that give us “social promotions” in academics…nobody is a failure…therefore nobody is a winner either…dumba**es!!!

By football fan

December 17, 2006 08:30 AM | Link to this

I agree with Mr Moose, please read his comment - these kids deserve to be called CO-CHAMPS! Don’t take that away from them……..

By Roswell Fan

December 17, 2006 08:42 AM | Link to this

I have the perfect solution to this ridiculous problem. I think that EVERY team in AAAAA should consider themselves champions we’ll just call it an overall Tie for all the teams. And by the way, did the coaches know that this was the rule?????? It’s hard to believe either team would not go for it on their final plays. A punt and a kneel down for the TIE??????

By Bob Tilden

December 17, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

You could tell by what the coaches said after the game and by how the players looked that everyone there thought it was ridiculous. It really doesn’t make sense that there is OT for every game in the season, but not the championship. It’s a real shame.

By C.Hill Fan

December 17, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Two years ago Collins Hill went through 7 OTs to advance in the playoffs in one of the most exciting games I have ever attended (including many college games). The only people that remember this might be the players, fans, and coaches… but to them it was win or lose. To see two teams give their all and make it so far, and then have to share a championship seems ridiculous when every single playoff game up to the championship allows overtime. Even if this rule has been around since the 1950’s, (for Lord knows why) someone should take the initiation and do something to make the GHSA realize the rules need to be updated and changed for the sake of everyone who plays and loves football in GA, because face it, it’s the one sport most of us actually care about.

By Football Fan

December 17, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

A tie? I was in Ohio a few weeks back at their state champion game for the largest division and they went to two overtimes. It was the first time in the history of the state playoffs that their division went to overtime. So, Georgis, youy need to change the rule for next year. We all need to write to the GHSA and in a positive way, tell them why they should change their ruling. I am surprised the coaches have not done this yet.

By teacheroftwo

December 17, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

Yes a tie is a dumb way to end a championship game but we’d have to look at why GHSA decided decades ago to allow such an event to take place. I don’t know why and I don’t think anyone really knows why…just some speculation about a possible connection to a possible suicide committed by a student-athlete. The rule needs to be changed, but I don’t see why BOTH coaches didn’t know this was a possibility before they began play. Seems to me the real anger should be directed toward the coaches who didn’t explain to their players that championship games * *must ** be won because there will be no OT. yeah GHSA should change the rules but the coaches should also know the rule so their team can know and play accordingly.

Do you really think the players would have played for a tie knowing the game could end that way? Again, we don’t know if they knew or not….seems to me they didn’t know but I don’t understand how the coaches didn’t know.

Please stop talking about what woulda-shoulda-coulda happened had the FG’s not been missed. The point is they were and PR had to fight hard to control the second half of the game. The same thing could be said about how Roswell played…had those missed FG’s been made, they might have changed their strategy and played harder, or differently, in response. That will be the 8th wonder of the world for right now, so no need to even entertain the thought.

By Hornet Nation

December 17, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

To - Mr. T - First I was there and both sides threw stuff. Yes more was thrown on the Roswell side and even though I disagree with it here are the facts and why it happened. 1) Most of the fans did not know this rule and were very upset with this fact. 2) Roswell had more fans at the game 3) Most PTR players and fans were very happy (celebrated at the end) with the out come as they were down most of the game and out played for 3 qtrs. The Roswell players were not as they were very unhappy and wanted the title outright. Bottom line PTR has a very good team as does Roswell but PTR was mostly satisfied with the tie and we were not as our kids have the true heart of a champion.

By mitch

December 17, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

It’s not how you play the game, but whether you win or lose.

By rhs upcoming frosh

December 17, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

After what i saw last night i hope they change the rule by time i start playing there. Who even thought of a TIE FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP GAME?! Where i am from in Florida EVERY GAME was settled with overtime if the score was tied in regulation.

By Rico

December 17, 2006 09:12 AM | Link to this

This might be the dumbest rule in sports. No overtime in a title game? Gimme a break. Email the GHSA here > ghsa@ghsa.net

By bulldog_greg24

December 17, 2006 09:18 AM | Link to this

Rockdale Coach your statement is not entirely true. I was at the Warner Robins - Houston County season opener 2 years when they too tied. Because both coaches did not inform the officials before the game of their desire to play overtime the officials trotted off the field as the players, coaches, and fans had their mouths open. The Warner Robins coach was in his first season and said he would never make that mistake again. Coach Way went on to win the 4A state title with 14 wins and a tie against a 5-A school. As a former Griffin student in 1980 who shared the title with Valdosta I am saddened this rule still exist 26 years later. I can tell you those were 2 great teams that night, but the 3-hour ride home really stunk. No one from Griffin felt like we WON a championship. Wake UP RALPH. Change the freaking rules and let them settle it on the field like they do in college.

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

Hey Hornet Nation -

Are you serious that Roswell doesn’t know not to throw crap on the field? IF so, what kind of back-woods school is this then?

Please do not insult my intelligence by your mindless garble. It makes you and Roswell even dirtier to me any many others that were at the game.

Again, I hope Roswell has to foot the bill to clean the stadium. As I was walking down the steps last night, it is apparent that Roswell is a trash town as they leave all their crap on the ground, waiting for someone else to pick it up. I could only imagine your houses.

Thank Goodness my kids go elsewhere. I would have to move them if they were at Roswell.

By vfraz

December 17, 2006 09:25 AM | Link to this

HI! YA! it was sweet for the Roswell quarter back to take a knee!

By RobF

December 17, 2006 09:26 AM | Link to this

Last year (2005) during the regular season, the annual cross-town match-up between Northside and Warner Robins ended in a tie.

Overtime was played using NCAA O.T. rules. Each team lines-up at the 20 and is given 4 downs in-turn to get a touchdown. Northside scored, WR did not. Northside wins by a touchdown.

So, yes, there is overtime during the regular season.

But no overtime in the championship?!? Why even call it a championship if the outcome can be ambiguous?

Who made this rule? A committee of soccer moms and Barney the purple dinosaur?

By roswell high fan

December 17, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

MR. T

Yes it was totaly wrong to throw stuff on the field and disrespect the fact that you let us borrow your stadium. But do not write of the whole town as bad people. You need to show some of your own respect and just say it was wrong and not that roswell is full of bad people. If that's how you think at McEachern i would be worried to send my kids there.

By sugar

December 17, 2006 09:52 AM | Link to this

HI! YA! It was * sweet* for both teams from atlanta to win on each other,football should thank god for N.S.H. (AAAA) Champion!

By Tyrone Jenkins

December 17, 2006 09:58 AM | Link to this

who cares…..There are teams in A AA AAA and AAAA that would slaughter both of the teams in the AAAAA championship. A bigger school does not make a better football team and program.

By Amazed

December 17, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Isn’t that just like the south, kissing your sister is an acceptable practice. Are you kidding me? Come on, this is 2006. A tie in the State Championship game? Who allows this to happen. Did you see the disappointment on the kids faces? Do you not pay attention to that? Why play the game at all? Why have one of the best playoff systems I have ever seen. Just play a regular season and be done with it. New Jersey has 21 state champions. I thought that was a joke until this. At least they have 21 winners. These kids and coaches work way too hard to come to a co-championship. The powers that be need to change this rule. Wow, how disappointing. Fun game to watch though. Lousy outcome.

By Jimmy "Big Dawg" Avera

December 17, 2006 10:23 AM | Link to this

“Champion” is the key here folks!! You can’t have a true champiom unless one team is declared the winner over the other at the end of competition. Change the rules to allow teams to continue to play until there is a true winner. A Championship is supposed to be just that not a “Splitship”!!!

By h.w.

December 17, 2006 10:25 AM | Link to this

here’s an idea … sell tickets to the title game, have tht state fans travel and tailgate to a neutral site, showcase the bands in a pre-ceremony show, then give out championship rings to players from both teams who receive them in their street clothes. the already more than run-amok political correctness has reached a new level of ridiculousness in georgia sports.

By george

December 17, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Cow Patty, get over it…we would have kicked your a** Friday night on the North Pole if necessary. Marist has a good team, but Friday was obviously Northside’s night. Most of your fans were very gracious in defeat. You should follow their lead. However, I will agree I would rather be on the losing end than have a tie. That is nothing more than an effort to be politically correct and not have “hurt feelings”. Of course when these kids enter the real world they find “hurt feelings” are a part of life.

By A Tift County fan

December 17, 2006 10:37 AM | Link to this

Hey Roswell, you are a bunch or sore losers and winners. You have no “class” and are a disgrace to the GHSA. Quit whining like a bunch of babies that you all are! Sounds like the Lions “owned” you and “peach fuzzed” you! Paybacks for your disgraceful behavior are “peachy sweet!” Looks like the “underlion” ate the conceited hornet after all! “RAID” HA! HA! HA! It took you how many years to get to the championship game, only to really lose! Hope we see you again next year!

By rick

December 17, 2006 10:38 AM | Link to this

Does this same rule apply in baseball and basketball? GHSA is a joke and they just gave us more evidence of the morons running the place. From now on just declare the winners of the games at the dome all champions or hey maybe just call every team in every region a champion.

By To MR.T

December 17, 2006 10:52 AM | Link to this

“Secondly, again, let me reiterate. Roswell was the only side to throw crap on the field at the end of the game. I hope that GHSA fines Roswell and makes you pay the clean up bill. You should be ashamed of yourselfs.

Atleast PR had the balls and guts for their fans to be clean and not act as if they are on the Jerry Springer show.”

I’m a PR student and there was trash being thrown from our side.

By Hornet Nation

December 17, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

To Mr. T - Are you serious - Both Sides threw trash and left a lot in the stands? Your the one full of mindless garble so do not insult my and other fans intelligence coming off has holier than thou. Let’s see trash town - Roswell listed as one of the top cities to live in the US and Roswell High is a top State school of excellence. So get your facts straight next time Mr T before you open your mouth. And I am glad your kids go elsewhere as we would not want to put up with your mindless crap!!

By A Lions Fan

December 17, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

When then announcer on the loud speaker pronounced both teams as co champions everyone was disgusted. can you blame them, these kids came so far and to just find out that they TIED for state. How can you allow tie breakers all season but for the biggest game of the season you pronounce it a tie, how can you take a game so good and then just end it. Our whole commuinity the football players and the fans put our whole heart into this game and for it to end in a tie is like just ending everything we were looking foward to, i would have rather lost then tied for state championship… but since theres nothing we can do Good Job Lions!

By To All

December 17, 2006 11:07 AM | Link to this

Don’t hound on Roswell for taking a knee with time running out on the 9 yard line. P’tree Ridge had momentum and 6” to go and punted with 30 seconds left on the clock.The Ridge played for the tie!!! CHANGE THE RULE!!!!!!!!!

By garrett phillips

December 17, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

Is this a joke? Why on earth is there no overtime? What an embarrassment. Georgia makes the BCS look like a great system!

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Hey Hornet Nation -

Your Language Arts teacher needs to be stipped of their teaching license.

Thank you for stepping up and representing Roswell. You prove my point for ignorance. Nothing more to say.

For the love of everything that is holy - “Stop whining Roswell”

By GaSouAlum

December 17, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

If the Georgia High School Association wants to have co-champions in the case of a tie, fine. Do it for every sports then. Why is football different? No overtime in basketball, no overtime in soccer. In baseball, the state championship series should be two games. If the two teams split, then co-champions. If the GHSA wants co-champions, do it with all sports and not just football.

By garrett phillips

December 17, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this

I might add: no matter how many people with brains in their heads move down here, when you get right down to it, it’s still Georgia!

By rhs

December 17, 2006 11:19 AM | Link to this

wow..ghsa needs to change these rules. a tie is the worst thing u could do. whats the big deal with over time. the guys could take it..and honestly that would be the better thing. so way to go ghsa get your rules together

By Hornet fan

December 17, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

When the announcer pronounced both teams as co champions, I thought he was kidding or joking around. It was a waste of time and money. The last time roswell went to a championship and won was 1970, and now we SHARE the title. Never in the history of football have I heard of a tie, hey ghsa, its called OVERTIME. I would rather go home knowing that ptree won than to share the title. Go Hornets, SHARE STATE, hahaha.

By HornetFan

December 17, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

To the “Tift County fan”:

I hope you country bumpkins are still “Devil Walking” home! The level of your hypocrisy is amusing based on how your fans at the dome behaved prior to your humiliation at the hands of Roswell. I doubt if being a good anything, much less a good loser is in your repertory of available behaviors. Your post smells of the rottenness born of being inbred.

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

Hey Hornet Nation -

Your Language Arts teacher needs to be stripped of their teaching license.

Thank you for stepping up and representing Roswell. You prove my point for ignorance. Nothing more to say.

For the love of everything that is holy - “Stop whining Roswell”

By Mike

December 17, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this

Why put the kids through the rigors of a playoff system, adding four or five games to the schedule if you are not going to determine an absolute champion? I remember when I played, I was dog-tired after 10 games and tired of playing. I was also sore, bruised and not at 100%. Adding additional games with no positive outcome is not fair to the kids that sweat for it. Playoffs are useless under the current rules. O.T. is permitted in regular season, why not in championship play?

By HornetFan

December 17, 2006 11:28 AM | Link to this

Thnakfully Mr.T is not representative of the PTRHS population, most of them are gracious humans, not pondscum.

By TONY CHO

December 17, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

a game is supposed to have a WINNER or a LOSER……… not a tie. I don’t see ANY reason at all for no overtime. This will be a great story to tell our kids.. “yeah our high school team won the state championship…..in a tie”

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

HornetFan-

Big words for a little maggot like you and Roswell. Tell me, do your kids have all 10 fingers and toes? Yea, I thought so.

By PRHS football dad

December 17, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

Ridge football is #1 baby!!!! None of our guys are cocky like #2 and #4 for Roswell. I walked by their locker room after our celebration and they were still crying. Our guys never quit and they don’t cry like little babies. Roswell is very lucky they get to share this title. See you babies at the Corky Kell Classic next year.

By RidgeTennis

December 17, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

We were down 14-3, mainly because of one play, the 83 yd run back, yet we came back in the 4th quarter and all the momentum on our side. Our defense was giving up nothing in the 2nd half and wouldve kept it that way for however many overtimes it took us to score. PR was robbed of being state champs instead of co-state champs, the momentum we had would have ran roswell over, so roswell is the only real winner from this game being called a tie.

By Socrates

December 17, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this

Not allowing OT in the final game of the playoffs is a stupid rule, but how on earth can some of you describe it as an example of liberalism creeping into our educational system? The rule is neither liberal nor conservative, but just plain stupid. I am a self-professed bleeding heart liberal and I was as disgusted as anyone at the outcome of last night’s game. After sitting through four quarters of some of the most exciting high school football I’ve ever seen, I felt cheated not to be able to watch the game play to its rightful conclusion. I can only imagine how the kids on both teams feel. This game brings to light the need for the GHSA to seriously reconsider some of their rules, but please don’t use this as an excuse to bash liberals.

And please stop criticizing Coach Tim McFarlin for taking a knee at the end of the game. Consider the odds of going 95 yards in 20 seconds versus the odds of turning the ball over and losing a share of the state championship. The bottom line is he should never have been put in the position where he had to make a decision like this. The game should have been settled in OT. Don’t blame him. And before you accuse Coach Mac of playing for a tie, consider that just a few minutes earlier he called a gutsy fake punk which unfortunately didn’t result in a score. If the Hornets had scored, all of us would be hailing him as a genius today. As someone who works with and knows Coach McFarlin, I have to say that he deserves nothing but praise for the way he has built the Roswell football program and led these young men through an incredible season.

By roswell fan

December 17, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

this is total crap. championship games end with ONE winner and ONE loser. sharing the title is a huge slap in the face to all the boys…of BOTH teams. they work hard all year to make it to the championships and then walk away as CO-CHAMPS?! yea ghsa is obviously made up of a bunch of morons that dont know how to make rules that actually make sense. roswell should of walked away as the champs…its called overtime you idiots.

By David F

December 17, 2006 12:29 PM | Link to this

Gentelmen the problem here was Roswell coach not trying to score with 22 seconds left, PR did the right thing by punting no coach would have gave the other team that type of field postion with that score.

By A Fan From Roswell, GA

December 17, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

Even Ricky Bobby knows you can’t have two Number Ones.

By heb

December 17, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this

I’m glad Northside didn’t have to play either of these teams; it wouldn’t have been pretty. The result would have been embarrasing for 5AAAAA football.

heb

By To Mr. T

December 17, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this

Mr. T,

With the game being played at McEachern, I’m sure they’ll have enough money to pay someone to clean up the field. I’m sure they made enough off of refreshments to pay the bill. I agree liter was being thrown from BOTH sides of the field. So, Mr. T get it straight! It sounds as if someone might be a slight resentful from Roswell beating McEachern in the Dome.

If you truly are a teacher at McEachern, then I’m glad my children attend school elsewhere. With your attitude and lack of writing skills, you can’t be much of a teacher. : )

From one teacher to another (if you truly are a teacher)…

By TCHS FAN

December 17, 2006 12:51 PM | Link to this

Roswell you are a disgrace to the GHSA. Not only are you a poor winner and loser, why should it be any different when tieing the championship. If the GHSA was aware of you poor sportmanship conduct, holding up signs in the Georgia dome “YOU SUCK” maybe you wouldn’t have gotten to play anyway. Your behavior should not be tolerated by any highschool. You people are inhumane “JUST GOT OWNED” website is disgusting and clear shows your lack of intelligence and poor sportsmanship. I hope your parents are proud of you. Not only are Roswell fans rude, your cheerleaders hold to the trash that you threw on the football field. The maturity level of shooting birds (Rowell cheerleaders) to TCHS fans, players, and cheerleaders after winning the game, just goes to show how disrespectful you people are. PEACHTREE RIDGE you are the true champions, congradulations on your efforts, you are the true winner of the championship game.

By hornets!

December 17, 2006 12:56 PM | Link to this

number 2 is not cocky? hes liek the coolest guy ever acutally

By juice

December 17, 2006 12:59 PM | Link to this

ALL THIS WHINING,BOTH COACHES FAILED LAST NIGHT.THEY HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO AVOID A SORRY ENDING WHERE NO CHAMP WAS CROWNED .BOTH TEAMS LOST,AS I SAID EARILIER AAAAA WAS IN DISARAY ALL YEAR LONG.A SORRY DISPLAY BY BOTH COACHES AND THE GHSA.THE KIDS ON THE FIELD PLAYED THEIR BUTTS OFF, 4TH AND INCHES WITH 54 SECONDS LEFT,PUNT THE BALL AWAY,WITH A POSSIBLE TIE LOOMING,I WOULD HAVE TAKEN A LOSS BEFORE TAKING A TIE.SO YOU GUYS WHINE ALL YOU WANT .THIS WAS YOU GUYS ONLY SHOT.NEITHER TEAM WILL RETURN NEXT YEAR

By Roswell Hornet Hata'

December 17, 2006 01:01 PM | Link to this

Quit whining you bunch of baby bees! You led the game until the 4th qtr., and then you were made a meal by the lions. Therefore, you bunch of educated idiots, you utimately lost. You got “owned” and were made “peach fuzz” by Ridge. Your arrogance backfired. May be invred but we’re not gay!

By rob

December 17, 2006 01:06 PM | Link to this

when did they start this whole tie crap…..when i played (91-94) there was no tie….you either won in OT. I watched hawkinsville tie a couple of yrs ago and now 2 teams….Thats BS. on a side note…..congrats Northside for a great season and finally getting a state title……you still have 3 more to catch up to the demons though…..from a Warner Robins fan

By RHS Student (Soph)

December 17, 2006 01:17 PM | Link to this

Peachtree Ridge got a break and they know it. All of PRHS’s students, players and band members were happy to be co-champion because they know that they would have lost in overtime. Everyone on Roswell’s side was angry because we know that we would have won in an overtime quarter. That rule needs to be changed to allow at least one overtime quarter. This only matters to the seniors though, cuz we will definetly be back next year with Beidel, Daniels and Talfairo (not quite sure how to spell his last name). -Peace

By Asif

December 17, 2006 01:23 PM | Link to this

Maybe it should be RHS v. PRHS for the first game of the football season next year. Technically, it won’t be considered as a championship game to see who’s number 1, but the fans from both sides will take it to be. Honestly, even though I love Roswell and am happy we won state (congrats to Peachtree Ridge too), the two best teams in Georgia are Norcross and Brookwood, hands down. Brookwood might not be so good next year, but this year they were practically unstoppable. And I think everyone knows how good Norcross is, so I’m not even gonna bother.

Also, anyone who says we got lucky cause Drew Butler missed two field goals and Zach Simmons missed four, you’re right, but to a certain extent. First with Brookwood, had Zach Simmons made those field goals, I’m pretty sure we would have stepped our game up instead of using a running attack to waste time. Same thing with yesterday: had we been down by six, I’m sure Dustin would have called Daniel’s number (15) more often. It’s a game though and that’s that. Congratulations to both teams.

By True Fan

December 17, 2006 01:31 PM | Link to this

To - RidgeTennis, PRHS football dad and Mr. T – and all of the other delusional fans - Pointing the finger at us as bad sports etc. just what do you think your poor unsportsmanlike like comments are? Please ask yourself this question. “You were were robbed” - please! No one knows what would have truly happened in an overtime situation. Our guys are warriors and instead of celebrating the tie they took it hard as they wanted sole possession of the title. The comment “Roswell is very lucky they get to share this title” - you my friend are lucky as we controlled 3 qtrs of play last night. Those of you have mentioned 2 missed field goals on your part and failed to mention ours in the 4th. That 3 points missed would have sealed the win. Nor mentioned were the two pass plays that were over thrown balls in the 2nd half that would have been 6 points for Roswell both times. So before you call us lucky again you should consider yourself very lucky not to have lost the game by 7 to 14 points.

Now to TCHS FAN - you are totally off base. Our Cheerleaders never did anything anywhere close to what you are saying. For the sign if it existed and the website “You got owned” I am truly sorry. This is an example of a misguided few fans that exist in every program - Tift included (check all the blog comments if in doubt). No program is immune.

To all of the negative Roswell bashers - get a life - the game was played and by the rules (as much as I hate them) and was a tie game and two teams are champions. And to all the positive/decent fans of the game from all the schools thanks for your voice of reason as you far out number the negative morons 1000 to 1.

To all the winners and losers in this years playoffs - what an outstanding year and as a true fan of the game I look forward to an outstanding season next year.

By mike

December 17, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

ghsa is a very politically motivated organization filled with curruption. Money is the only sound that they hear.

-to rockdale coach- yes there are some games in the regular season that go to tie. schools that play in different classifications. as a coach, you need to specify to the offials “”before the game”” that you would like to go to overtime in case of a tie. both coaches must agree for this to happen.

-i think the tie rule was written when we were still playing with that dumb penitration rule. of course ghsa is a few years behind making changes.

By Other Changes Needed

December 17, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

hs football changes needed: 1) allow kick-offs to be returned from the end zone. what the heck is that rule for anyway? 2) play neutral field in all rounds of the play-offs to eliminate home-field advantage 3) mandatory overtime for non-region, region and all play-off rounds

By l smith

December 17, 2006 01:38 PM | Link to this

Trash beautify the area

By wayne

December 17, 2006 01:41 PM | Link to this

If you have never played in a championship game then you don’t have any right to comment on a tie. It would be an absolute injustice for any high school team to lose in a playoff after when tied after 48 minutes of hard battle. This is not war and those of you that think a tie is bad probably lost money. Sometimes it is just right that everyone wins.

By mike

December 17, 2006 01:44 PM | Link to this

to other changes needed- do like texas and mass. does and allign with ncaa rules, and none to these discussions would happen. it would also confuse to fans less.

By mrwade

December 17, 2006 01:45 PM | Link to this

It is laughable that this rule was ever put in place. It’s another example that common sense is often uncommon. If I had attended the game, I would have demanded my money back and attempted to rouse those around me to demand the same

By beast

December 17, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

roswell was going to lose anyway so a tie was a blessing for them. congrats to prhs on a great season

By PRHS Band Mom

December 17, 2006 01:58 PM | Link to this

I have one question for those of you who think there weren’t any celebrations at the end of the game…were you watching the same game I was? There was cheering and congratulating the players all over the place! The PRHS coach got the bucket of ice dumped on him. The players were jumping around holloring and celebrating.

I can understand the frustration felt by all regarding this rule; but the fact of the matter is it’s the rule. Petition the governor to get it changed if it will make you feel better. But no one can take away from the fact that these kids played their hearts out. Don’t allow your anger with the GHSA to take away from the way these kids played.

Our kids in the band stayed and played song after song after song to let our players know that while they came away with a “T” instead of a “W” they will always be winners to us! No rule is going to change that.

By me

December 17, 2006 02:21 PM | Link to this

ive got $10 that says the ghsa doesnt care what we, the fans say!

By RidgeTennis

December 17, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

To TrueFan, you are a disgrace to the sport blogging world. “Roswell controlled 3 qtrs.” Try maybe one 83 yd play that put yall ahead, other than that it was an evenly played game until the 4th qtr in which we dominated. our defense could have shut yall out even if we played another 3 hours of football. so just be happy that it was a tie for your sake, or else youd be waiting another 35 years for another chance

By RidgeTennis

December 17, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

To TrueFan, you are a disgrace to the sport blogging world. “Roswell controlled 3 qtrs.” Try maybe one 83 yd play that put yall ahead, other than that it was an evenly played game until the 4th qtr in which we dominated. our defense could have shut yall out even if we played another 3 hours of football. so just be happy that it was a tie for your sake, or else youd be waiting another 35 years for another chance

By RidgeTennis

December 17, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

To TrueFan, you are a disgrace to the sport blogging world. “Roswell controlled 3 qtrs.” Try maybe one 83 yd play that put yall ahead, other than that it was an evenly played game until the 4th qtr in which we dominated. our defense could have shut yall out even if we played another 3 hours of football. so just be happy that it was a tie for your sake, or else youd be waiting another 35 years for another chance

By RidgeTennis

December 17, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

To TrueFan, you are a disgrace to the sport blogging world. “Roswell controlled 3 qtrs.” Try maybe one 83 yd play that put yall ahead, other than that it was an evenly played game until the 4th qtr in which we dominated. our defense could have shut yall out even if we played another 3 hours of football. so just be happy that it was a tie for your sake, or else youd be waiting another 35 years for another chance

By RidgeTennis

December 17, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

To TrueFan, you are a disgrace to the sport blogging world. “Roswell controlled 3 qtrs.” Try maybe one 83 yd play that put yall ahead, other than that it was an evenly played game until the 4th qtr in which we dominated. our defense could have shut yall out even if we played another 3 hours of football. so just be happy that it was a tie for your sake, or else youd be waiting another 35 years for another chance

By David F

December 17, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Let’s hope for a rematch next year!

By Dawg91

December 17, 2006 03:13 PM | Link to this

Honestly, ask any player or coach how they feel about a tie and see if they can keep a straight face when they say “we feel like winners, we played our hearts out”
I would’ve felt like the whole season was a waste of time if I had been on one of those teams.
Wayne, this is football. This is the south. This is America. “everyone wins” is for commie kindergarteners.

By G

December 17, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this

Big fat hairy deal.

By pre

December 17, 2006 03:20 PM | Link to this

I wouold just like to say that the Mr.T is probaly the biggest tool in the history of blogging. I like how you use the word “props.” seriously, so you teach middle school? why don’t you grow up and use a “big boy” vocabulary? i also like how you accuse #57 of being pathetic. while i’m not condoning helmet throwing, remember that these guys are high school athletes playing in what is most likely the biggest game of their life. cut the kid some slack. Tough loss for both teams. GHSA should wise up, but my guess is that they won’t.

By Warren

December 17, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

I can see it now Super Bowl “Tie Game”…..This is what happens when politcs and sports are combined..Everyone’s a looser because there was no real winner.Maybe these to teams should get together and play some good ole back yard ball.

By Rule Man

December 17, 2006 03:28 PM | Link to this

I guess I’ll address this to “HEY RULE MAN YOURE RETARDED” since he’s the one who posted to me. (Does your keyboard not have all the punctuation keys?) I do know the rules of football, as I was on the Griffin team that tied Valdosta in 1978. I didn’t say I agreed with the rule. I was just pointing out how many people are SHOCKED AND APPALLED that this could happen when it has been happening for almost 50 years. If you don’t like it, then show your disdain by never attending another GHSA football game. Of course if you didn’t, nobody would be there to clean the bathrooms. Your comparison of high school football to women’s voting rights and slavery was pretty entertaining.

By Confused in Roswell

December 17, 2006 03:31 PM | Link to this

I want to know what was really going on in both of the huddles in the last minute or so of the game. Did anyone what to go for the win? Were any of the coaches in disagreement on whether or not to try and win the game? Did they even realize that a Tie was going to be the end of the AAAAA STATE CHAMPIONSHIP game and NO ONE WOULD WIN? Did the players even know that a tie would be the end of the game?? Did they speak up at all? In a nut shell DID ANYONE SHOW ANY PASSION OR DESIRE TO ACTUALLY WIN THE GAME?
If you never try, you can never win…….anyway,

CONGRATULATIONS on a great season HORNETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By For Mr. T

December 17, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

I think I might know who Mr. T is. As a parent of a child he has taught, I must say…he has many things he needs to be worrying about besides Roswell littering the field. He has many problems of his own. So Mr. T go back to your classroom and actually teach.

By Personally blameing Rule Man for last nights disappointment

December 17, 2006 03:42 PM | Link to this

Rule Man~

I am personally calling you out for last night’s football disappointment. You have obviously followed HS football for more than 20 years and have been personally affected by this silly rule. Since you knew this whole time, What have YOU personally done to try and prevent others from experiencing your same let down? ~

besides stand up for it on this blog of course….

By PRHS Teacher

December 17, 2006 03:53 PM | Link to this

Congratulations to both PRHS and RHS - You all are champions!!! Peachtree Ridge - - way to go!!! Can you believe what we have accomplished in four years? I am very proud of the students, the teachers, the parents, the community of PRHS to follow and support the team. Thank you.

By Stephen

December 17, 2006 03:59 PM | Link to this

I haven’t stood up for the rule at all. I simply pointed out that it has been this way for a long time and found it amusing that so many people are now up in arms about it. To answer your question, I don’t work in the field of coaching or education in any way, so it hasn’t been my job to do anything about it. I don’t have any political clout or any type of influence of anyone that could make a difference. I don’t like the rule, but it hasn’t caused me to go out of my way to do anything about it. There are more important things in life.

By Phillip p

December 17, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this

I agree the idea of a championship game without a true champion is somewhat flawed. However, I think that many people do not realize why the GHSA does not afford overtime in championship games: it is my understanding that a young man killed himself because he missed a penalty kick in overtime of a state soccer championship game, and thus the rule was changed to no longer provide overtime to crown a champion. No game is worth loss of life. Even under less tragic circumstances, consider a football player dropping a pass or fumbling in overtime to lose the game and implications that might have on his possible scholarship opportunities? One minor blunder under the spotlight and four years of hard work could be erased for that player. In addition, each team has the same amount of time in a championship game to state their case for the title. If two teams can not distinguish themselves in the regular length of the game, who is to say that both teams are not equally deserving of the title. While I feel that the idea of co-champions is undoubtedly flawed, it does serve a purpose.

By Over-rated 1 AAAAA football fan

December 17, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this

See what happens when there are no south teams in the finals? Leave it to 2 north schools to screw everything up

By TO MR T Calling U OUT

December 17, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

Mr T if you are a teacher you should know these kids are STUDENT ATHELETETS.

I don’t read these blogs, but someone told me about your comments. My comment to you is pull your head out of your rear end!!!!

As an adult (you do not act like one) you should know better then to call a player (someone’s son)out. Ecspecially when you are WRONG. As you said,

“One more thing. Hey #— - Must you take your helmet off after every play, throw it down on the ground and be pathetic?”

That is my son and we filmed him on the sidelines. Would you like to watch the tape or would you rather apologize now for your error. He has to much Respect for the game and the players to do what you said he did. He never threw his helment down, pound it against the ground or do anything negative during the game. He is a LEADER and acts like one. Get the player right if you are going to bad mouth them, but is it that important to single people out.

Look his name up in the game program and ask some of the kids on your wrestling team about this kid. They can tell you that he is a “CLASS ACT”. Ilook forward to reading your APOLOGY.

By Ethel

December 17, 2006 04:41 PM | Link to this

The liberal feel-good mentality that has taken over this decade? How do you explain that the rule was put in place in the 1950’s? Also the suicide thing is a myth, never happened and not the reason for the rule. idiots

By mister.earl

December 17, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see the telecast?

What did they say about the overtime?

By RHS fan

December 17, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

I threw a bottle out on the field in an emotion of anger because the was no overtime quarter. I am truly sorry for throwing that bottle, and apologize on behave of the other Roswell fans who did the same thing that I did.

By Ridge Fan

December 17, 2006 05:11 PM | Link to this

undecided feelings. am i happy because we didnt lose, or mad because we didnt win. overtime would of solved this problem of mine.

By Ridge Fan

December 17, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

whos the best team in division AAAAA football in the state of georgia? i thought that was the purpose of saturday night’s game - guess i was wrong.

By Charlie

December 17, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this

Overtime games are played during the regular season and they should be allowed during the state championship games as well. A tie does not settle the issue, and both teams come away with an empty, no-win feeling. The college BCS title game and Super Bowl both permit overtime to determine a winner. And that’s what you want in a game of this magnitude: a winner. For high school teams to play 15 games and have the last and most important one end in a tie is very disappointing for the players.

By roswell spectator

December 17, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

Not sure what game some PR fans were watching, but Roswell was in control for three quarters before the Lions took over in the final period, with some help from the zebras. Both PR scores in the 2nd half would not have happened without 2 roughing the passer calls against the Hornets.

They may or may not have been good calls by the officials, but without them the Lions lose. Roswell had several chances to put the game away in the 3rd quarter leading 14-3, but couldn’t do it, in large part to the PR defense.

As to ragging the Hornets for taking a knee on their 11 yard line with about 20 seconds to play and no time outs, get real. Roswell pulled off a fake punt from its 35 with maybe 3 minutes to play and PR elected to punt on 4th and a foot from its 38 with enough time left to get into field goal position.

Roswell had an 80-yard drive, an 83-yard touchdown pass and about 3 near-miss passes that could have been touchdowns. The late PR touchdown was the only time the Lions came close to putting it in the end zone, and it only took them 43 minutes to do that.

By Roswell Student (soph)

December 17, 2006 05:39 PM | Link to this

It was a good game and RHS was controlling the game for the first three quarters. Thye should have won the game, and like Roswell Spectator said, they got a HUGE break from the terrible roughing the passer call. I have played in a championship game a couple of times before. When we were obviosly the better team, it would have been a disappointment to win. Last year my team continued through the tourney because of a forfeit, and probably should have gotten killed in the championship game, but we played them close. A tie then would have been like a win. That is why Roswell fans should be upset. We should have, and would have in overtime, won that game. PRHS was excited to share the ‘ship because they know that they didn’t play well enough compared to Roswell to win that game.

By Roswell Student (soph) with a correction

December 17, 2006 05:42 PM | Link to this

oops, meant to say that PRHS got a huge break from the roughing the passer call.

By joetex

December 17, 2006 05:43 PM | Link to this

roswell - nice recap

but what is any of it worth?

why is there a scorebaord?

By RHS Student (soph)

December 17, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

oops correction, PRHS got a huge break from the roughing the passer call that wasn’t real. Not RHS

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 05:45 PM | Link to this

Apparently, I ruffled a few feathers on the losing team’s side. Yes, I am refering to you Roswell.

The fact is just that. Roswell be greatful with a co-championship (haha) as you should really be the LOSER. Those 2 missed field goals by PR should have done you in.

As for the Roswell Coach - no guts, no glory. Did you make the right decision? Only you can answer that.

I think with all the garbage we picked up, should be brought back to your crappy school and dumped on the 50 yard lion, (OOPS! Did I just say LION? Oh yea, that’s the team that should be the winner) I mean line.

My .02 worth.

It’s funny - you people think you know who I am. And that’s good, so life can go on as we know it. I stand by all my original statements.

By roswell spectator

December 17, 2006 06:00 PM | Link to this

Thank you Ethel for debunking the suicide myth. The no OT rule has been around forever, in part because of the ridiculous old overtime rules that went to penetration if the game was still tied after the 2 OT periods. I once saw Westminster win a playoff game over Swainsboro by allowing Swainsboro to score a touchdown in OT. The GHSA didn’t want something like that to happen in a championship, but with the new OT rules, there’s no reason not to change. It just takes a person or organization with a public forum (like the AJC) to give the GHSA a firm push.

By NGwinFball

December 17, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

Mr. T is officially the man, has harsh has he is, he is right. I went back and watched a tape of the game, and #57 has a pathetic attitude. Roswell should not even have a share, Ridge has the stronger team, and #57 can now go cry since hes only got a share of the state title

By roswell spectator

December 17, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

Thank you Ethel for debunking the suicide myth. The no OT rule has been around forever, in part because of the ridiculous old overtime rules that went to penetration if the game was still tied after the 2 OT periods. I once saw Westminster win a playoff game over Swainsboro by allowing Swainsboro to score a touchdown in OT. The GHSA didn’t want something like that to happen in a championship, but with the new OT rules, there’s no reason not to change. It just takes a person or organization with a public forum (like the AJC) to give the GHSA a firm push.

By Sierra

December 17, 2006 06:10 PM | Link to this

The message that a tied state championship sends out is all wrong. I mean if you’re going to allow for a co-championship, WHY HAVE THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME??? If that’s the case, just make it so the two teams that win the semi-finals are co-champions instead of getting the boys’ (and fans’)hopes up. I just feel so let down. The game was so intense and so amazing and it was cut short. Now there are no smiles, there are no tears, there is no joy, there is no regret, just the sinking feeling of what if. My heart goes out to the players. We all ended in mediocrity, thanks to some un-smart rule makers. The boys on both teams fought extremely hard and I think they all deserve something better.

By To Hornet Nation

December 17, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

You do not know what you are talking about!. I have been at every P-Tree Ridge game, and we never give up, or settle. We did not make as much of a fuss because we have enough class to know that it would not matter. Talk is cheap and action speaks, and everyone there, or everyone who have watched the season knew that we were coming after you guys to WIN not tie. p.s. even Roswell’s Coach knew it!!!.

By get physical

December 17, 2006 06:27 PM | Link to this

while my son played for peachtree ridge in their first year, not a pretty sight, i was disappointed they didn’t win. but, the issue with me is: physical conditioning is as much a part of being a great team as skill. let ‘em play all night to see who is the better team overall. big hockey and soccer fan but their shootouts are a joke. at least hockey has some overtime. college football overtime, a joke. defense wins as many games as offense. use the pro system. best conditioned team wins after points fail. most peolpe i know would rather lose a championship than share one under the current rules.

good debate, but this state is weird (alcohol, evolution, etc.) and i say that coming from tennessee! i know, go home.

let the debate continue. this is the united states!!!

By PRHS football dad

December 17, 2006 06:41 PM | Link to this

To True Fan and other Roswell whiners you guys did control 3 qtrs but what counts is the scoreboard. If you guys don’t appreciate it then don’t accept your trophy. Show the community what poor sports you are. If any of you had the hearts of our kids you’d be celebrating with us. It was their hard work over many years, 10 for my son, that made last nights game so meaningful. Did you not notice the turnout? Our boys couldn’t hear the snap count because it was so loud. Our season was anything but mediocre as was yours. Enjoy it!

By fan

December 17, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this

Dear Peachtree Ridge, If you were WORTHY of being crowned state champions than you would be state champions. DO U GUYS REMEMBER CAMPBELL AND THEIR CRY BABY FANS? Karma is a b**ch right? Peachtree Ridge fans deserve to cry about the RULES as much noise and arrogrance they spewed out throughout the playoffs.

Thanks for helping to DISGRACE metro Atlanta football. Co-champions!!?!! Every team who played in the playoffs deserves to be co-champions if there is not going to be a SINGLE CHAMP. Losers.

By PRHS football dad

December 17, 2006 06:58 PM | Link to this

To Hornet Nation is right. On 4th down our offense came out to win even though Roswell switched from the 3 man front to 4. Roswell’s coach freaked and called the time out saving his overanxious guys from jumping offsides. Coach Armstrong played it well and did the right thing. Our boys are true Champions!

By To Mr. T (obviously not a real teacher)

December 17, 2006 07:13 PM | Link to this

Obviously, Mr. T is a pathetic person who needs to get a life. If he truly is a McEachern teacher, why is he so involved in a conversation about Roswell and Peachtree Ridge? Could it be he is living vicariously through others? I think so. Mr. T, you are full of yourself. You have no idea about Roswell football. I am not a Roswell student, teacher, or parent, but I was at the game, and I have been at every Roswell game this season. Roswell players, spectators, and players have the upmost class of any group of individuals. I agree with the previous posts…you obviously have some type of vendetta against Roswell. Keep your personal comments to yourself and stick to the FACTS.

By RHSsenior07

December 17, 2006 07:51 PM | Link to this

Mr T, What about that 25 yard chip shot we missed? You seem to overlook the fact that had we made that, it would have been 17-3 and our game to lose. All I hear from you about the game is “if this, if that.” You sound like a Brookwood or a Tift fan. And I strongly recommend you review the game film, because number 57 ABSOLUTELY did not slam his helmet. I saw which player you are talking about, and your slanderous remarks of number 57 (one who is spoken of with reverence and honor around the school, I mind you) are disgusting and deserving of an apology. For a high school teacher, your pathetic remarks have spoken volumes for your McEachern High School, a school I will now forever remember for its subpar and immature faculty and staff.

By Zeke

December 17, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

Hey RHSsenior07 If you can’t make a 25 yard FG, you don’t deserve to win. I also wish you luck on your next attempt of the writing portion of the High School Graduation Test.

By RHSsenior07

December 17, 2006 08:16 PM | Link to this

O by all means, Zeke, explain to me how I have done so wrong! I’m so sorry to have upset you and the Grammar Gods in some way! Lucky for me, I don’t have to take the dreaded High School Graduation Test again! My 98 was cutting it way too close last time!

By the way, what about Peachtree’s 25 yard miss? No wonder the game ended in a tie! Neither team deserved to win (according to Zeke)

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 08:25 PM | Link to this

sigh Here I go again.

To NGwinFball - Thank you for reviewing your tape. I sure wish I had one to prove to these people how p** poor of a player #57 was. However, the greatest recorder I have is my mind (which incidentally holds an undergraduate degree from Boston University, 1 Masters Degree from UConn and another from University of Georgia and 3/4 of a Ph.D from Georgia State) and it tells no tales. #57 was nothing short of a poor sport. Period.

To Whomever wrote this nonsense: “Roswell players, spectators, and players have the upmost class of any group of individuals” - Were you at the same game? Where were you sitting? I sat in the 2nd row - where were you? Roswell displayed atrocious (look it up if you don’t know what it means) behavior. You should be ashamed.

“…you obviously have some type of >>vendetta against Roswell. Keep your >>personal comments to yourself and >>stick to the FACTS.”

The facts, as I have mentioned, speak for themselves. I suggest you spend a little more time studying then playing with others.

To RHSsenior07: “McEachern High School, a school I will now forever remember for its subpar and immature faculty and staff.” I am so glad to see that you are using that “Word-a-Day” calendar that has been sitting on your. How long have you been waiting to use it? By the way, “Subpar” is not one word, it’s 2 separate ones (sub par.)

Now go study, little ones. Finals are this week.

By Charles N. Carter

December 17, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

In high school part of the lesson you learn through athletics is learning how to WIN and how to LOSE. There are few more important lessons in life. These lessons are transferable into the classroom, personal realationships and in business. I would not be the successful productive person I am today without learning the ups & downs and the way to win & lose that I learned high school athletics.

This PC stuff has gotten way out of hand !!!!

By Zeke

December 17, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

I wasn’t offended in any way, except for the fact that a future graduate of a Georgia high school can’t express himself any better than you did. My tax dollars are a bit offended at that, however. If the other team missed a 25-yard FG, then they didn’t deserve to win either. It looks like they didn’t. Enjoy your co-championship. Maybe you can get into Georgia Tech, where they are used to those.

By TCHS Cheerleader

December 17, 2006 08:38 PM | Link to this

to “true fan”.. YOU are totally off base about the Roswell cheerleaders.. i think i should know what they did to us when we lost.. first of all.. you probably were not paying attenion to the cheerleaders on the feild because you were too busy being a rude fan and yelling “you suck”.. second of all.. you were not in the back, outside of the stadium, when they were running their mouths and being bad sports themselves.. you know, most cheerleaders are very considerate of the other team and tell them congrats when they win, or they did good even though they lost.. but now i see that it is mainly the southern cheerleaders that have class and are nice about stuff like that when the notherners are rude as heck.. and third of all every single roswell fan needs to keep their mouths shut.. yall are the most inconsiderate fans i have ever seen in my 4 years of cheering! yall are the biggest babies EVER and seriously need to get a life! and THANK YOU to the person who took up for the south.. and whoever said it, is VERY right!! so all i have to say is.. Congrats PeachTree Ridge Lions.. i think yall were the ones who really one the game, and to roswell, be ready, because we are coming for you next year.. (and hopefully the cheerleading coach can have sense enough next year to pick cheerleaders that wont be inconsiderate and be REAL athletes)!!

By nhsfan

December 17, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

To Nice Cow Patty Field, Maybe if teams would concentrate more on football instead of pretty football fields, they would win more.

By TCHS Cheerleader

December 17, 2006 09:03 PM | Link to this

and let me add something to my comment.. to roswell fans, cheerleaders, players, etc. who were telling us to “devil walk back home”.. all i have to say is that yall dont have enough talent in yall’s school for someone to be able to make 3 SONGS for the football team.. and to the cheerleaders and players.. WHAT THE HECK IS THE HORNET WALK??

By Danny Jeter

December 17, 2006 09:07 PM | Link to this

What happens in earlier games if they end in a tie? Someone has to advance to the next round? I played when it was determined by penetration but the referees kept up with it during the game so you knew toward the end who was ahead on penetration.

By Ashamed of GHSA

December 17, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this

It is sad that those hired to lead our young people cannot even make a decision about something so simple. Are you afraid to make a decision or is it a matter of you not having any wisdom to see the problem? In case you don’t have a clue, read this…a person who has defeated all opponents in a competition or series of competitions, so as to hold first place. That is the meaning of champion.

By MR T From a Father

December 17, 2006 09:14 PM | Link to this

MR. T what game were you at? You certainly did get my blood curling. Stop talking smack about #—. You want to meet him face to face and tell him or myself (his dad). Talking trash about supposedly #—, running through is all bunk. You probably also posted as “To NGwinFball” because there is no tape of #— doing it because he did not do it. I do not want people to get the wrong idea about him because of your lies. Watch the PBS game. He is not a starter, he played on 3 plays.

Your comment that we think we know whho you are. Have some guts and call me and let’s meet. Then you will see how you have ruffled my feathers. Do you have the GUTS to talk face to face. I don’t think so.

By Zeke

December 17, 2006 09:29 PM | Link to this

This is great! People calling each other out on a message board about high school sports. We should all be so proud.

By PRHS FAN

December 17, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this

Mr. T you really need to shut up. I think you are talking about #4. He threw his helmet out of frusteration and pain of getting his knee bent backwards while being tackled (this is totally understandable, considering I did this many times during my season). The more smack this guy TRYS to talk the more idiotic he sounds. I bet that if he were to go face to face with #57 or his dad, he would get beat down.

By fan

December 17, 2006 09:34 PM | Link to this

The 2006 football season will go down as the worst for the class AAAAA thanks to Peachtree Ridge and Roswell. Stop calling yourself champions. only scoring 14 points is not championship material. Northside 30 Marist 6 is championship material. Lowndes scoring 47 points on Brookwood is championship material. Not TWO OVERRATED SPOILED football teams who were not supposed to be there in the first place. DO US ALL A FAVOR, SHUT THE H* UP and share your trophy LOSERS

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 09:45 PM | Link to this

You’re calling me out? What’s next on your list - a measuring contest? Spare the embarrassment and just admit that your son, #57, has a p**-poor attitude and was a baby during the game. Waaaa… Wahh… time to feed #57!

This is almost too funny. I can’t believe that I am lowering my standards to prove my point about the Roswell trash.

Whatever. I am done with #57, his daddy and his belly-aching.

Roswell - you played a good game (except #57). You should have lost the game, but alas, you tied with PR. Co-champs? Ha. That makes me laugh.

Long live PR - the true champs - on and off the field.

By TO Zeke

December 17, 2006 09:49 PM | Link to this

Zeke, understand I only want the opportunity to TALK to this person mr t. One of College Coach’s was on the Zone 790 and his comment was the worst part of Coaching now is because of the Internet. People can statements by being anonymous. In the past you always knew who was saying what and you could talk to them. Now people can make up anything and put in on the web, whether it was true or not.

The only way to shut up Mr T and other Bullies is to challenge them to stand up and meet face to face. They always back down, because they are affraid of the TRUTH.

By Zeke

December 17, 2006 09:54 PM | Link to this

By challenging someone to say something to your face, you are implying some sort of physical threat. That might not be your real intention here, but by saying things like “Do you have the GUTS to talk face to face?” people get that idea.

By Mr. T

December 17, 2006 09:56 PM | Link to this

Zeke,

I have no problems backing up what I say and saying what I feel. I never back down to a challenge.

I played both HS and college football. I know what I am talking about.

You want to contact me, please do so. You know where I am. I have also acquired a tape to prove the poor attitudes on display of the Roswell fans and players.

No guts no glory - Roswell HS.

By Prez Northside Class of 1981

December 17, 2006 09:59 PM | Link to this

Wow! What a debate. The fact is, that this rule is a terrible LIBERAL rule. When’s the last time you saw a Goal posted in a high school locker room that said, GOAL: “To be Co-State Champions”…NEVER!

It doesn’t matter when the rule was put in place. It needs to be changed. What a few people thought in 1950 about it being ok to call them co-champions has nothing to do with the way it should be. If we had that mentally, where would we be today in all of the advancements that we have made. For some reason they thought it was ok then, but it doesn’t mean that they were right.

GHSA, do the right thing and figure it out. What’s wrong with two 5 minute overtime periods and then use penetration if neither team scores or better yet the Kansas tie breaker system. These young men pour out countless hours of blood, sweat and tears and deserved to be able to be crowned as an undisputed Champion! In life you are either moving forward (winning) or falling backwards (losing), but the are no ties and if you think you are tied, just stand by and you’ll watch the world go by, because it’s not going to wait on you. In other words, the deception is your still losing, although you think your just maintaining position. Heck, High School Football is not as complicated as some of GHSA rules make it! The question is , does GHSA have the GUTS to agree that this rule needs to be addressed and corrected. Congratulations to all of the coaches, players, students and fans of all of the schools that competed for the opportunity to be Champions! By the way…Keep playing the Championships in local communities, that’s what it is all about. Keep the Dome as the Semis, which allow more teams to participate and it makes for a Great experience! Don’t do like surrounding states and play the Championships in big Stadiums. Believe me I have seen both and think the Community Championship atmosphere blows away the other options!

Change that Rule…Change that Rule…Change that Rule!

It’s great to be a Northside Eagle!

By Alex

December 17, 2006 10:19 PM | Link to this

A novel idea that has been mentioned many times in this blog I’m sure. I only add it in the hopes that it will add impact to the GHSA’s possible review of the current rules. Why not do what is done the entire rest of the football year? If there is a tie at the end of regulation, each team is given an opportunity in overtime to start with the ball on the 15 yard line. Continue playing as overtimes are necessary to determine a single champion. If it’s good enough for the regular season and the first four rounds of the post season why not for the championship game. Why should a team have to fight all season just to end the whole thing in a tie. Granted the team that finishes as the runner-up also fought hard all season, but wouldn’t everyone like to know who the better team truly is? Isn’t that the point of playing every games to begin with? This just continues the template of the wossification of this country. “It’s okay you are all winners.” Spare me, those football players are big boys (and in a few cases girls), they can handle the dissapointment if they lose in overtime. In fact it might be even more beneficial in their development as adults. Bottom line, the GHSA needs to adopt the same overtime rules, that are used throughout the rest of the year, into the championship games.

By To Mr. T

December 17, 2006 10:48 PM | Link to this

Mr. T,

I have looked threw the McEachern Staff/Faculty directory. For you to be so proud of your credentials on the message board there is no one with the same credentials who teach at McEachern. I hold the same level of education as you. Quite honestly, I can’t believe someone would sink so low as to call a student (a child) out by their number. I am also an educator, and can’t believe someone who is expected to teach and shape the minds of our future generation would sink so low. I think you owe the student and his family an apology. You can watch the game on the PBS website. I have done so, and not once do you see this young man throwing his helmet. So you need to get your lies straight.

However, I have copied your credentials from the website and have sent them to the administrators at McEachern. If you truly are a teacher at the school, I’m sure the administration will have no problem figuring out who you are. Thanks for the humor!

By Zeke

December 17, 2006 11:23 PM | Link to this

Now why in the world you send something to the administration at the school? Has he broken any laws? Looks like somebody is too sensitive to be participating in an online discussion if this is the kind of elementary school garbage you’re going to pull. “I’m gonna tell your mommy!” Ridiculous.

By For T

December 17, 2006 11:27 PM | Link to this

T, I’m unsure exactly what your issue is with Roswell. You are talking about kids. I’m sure if McEachern had been in “our shoes” your students would have reacted in the same way. I really think you are representing all educators unfairly. Why are do you even care? This was a Roswell/Peachtree Ridge game. Is your life so pathetic that you must entangle yourself with other people’s issues? If so, go to your local bar and find yourself a working girl to help you out. I was at the game and I have the game taped on my DVR. I didn’t see the student in question throwing his helmet.

By RHS Student (soph)

December 17, 2006 11:29 PM | Link to this

Mr. T or anyone else who thinks that Roswell shouldn’t have won. Explain the b****** roughing the passer call.

By RHS Student (soph)

December 17, 2006 11:41 PM | Link to this

I saw someone throw there helmet and it completley broke. I do not remember the number, but I’m pretty sure that it wasn’t 57. 57 is a good person with a good attiutude and represents Roswell very well. Also, if you have the picture so vividly in your mind of him throwing his helmet, that would mean that you were on the roswell side somewhere around the 50 yard line. If you seem to hate Roswell so much, why would you be sitting in the middle of the Roswell side?

By Dublin Irish Fan

December 18, 2006 12:00 AM | Link to this

Well, there’s not much that hasn’t already been said. I’m a little surprised there’s not been more Dublin or Charlton fan chat. I checked the AJC tonight to see if there had been any discussions about the displeasure of the championship ties and boy I can hardly keep up with the chat. As a Dublin Irish fan, I’ve spent the last 5 years following this football program in a pursuit to win a state championship since my oldest son lost the championship playoff game to Screven in 2002. Dublin has made the playoffs all but one year since and has made it to the Ga. Dome on 3 occasions. They broke the regular season scoring record last year and broke the overall scoring record this year. Dublin faced a tough opponent in Charlton yesterday and 48 minutes was just not enough time to settle a championship. As someone said, the ultimate goal at the beginning of the season for the players, coaches and fans is to win a state championship. Being crowned co-champs basically succumbs to being second. And for the senior that has spent his last 4 years with that goal has to face this reality. Both Schools are championship teams but to have the game end in a tie only leaves some to wonder or second guess the coaching and play calling. The fans, coaches and players voices should be heard along with a few other needed changes. I spent most of this past week trying to get tickets to the game and when I finally walked through the gates Saturday at 2:00 my family and I had basically killed over 6 hours standing in lines. A playoff game should not be about money the state or any specific team school will receive. It should be played in a neutral environment and above all, it should accommodate the fan support. There must have been a thousand or more fans that did not have a seat in yesterday’s game. And there were plenty more who were just not going to stand in lines or travel long distances. Having a neutral field could also accommodate both teams travel. For any of the Charlton or Dublin players who may read this blog, you have to believe you are both champions. Both teams played well enough to be champions and should not hang their heads in the days ahead. Although it is sad to be an example of a rule that is so controversial, we can only hope it will lead to changes in the near future. Your record may both be 14-0-1 but if any one asks, just say 14 and 0! Congratulations on a Great Season!

By To Zeke and Mr. T (probably one in the same)

December 18, 2006 12:01 AM | Link to this

So you ask why…

No, he hasn’t broken any laws. However, many of the things he has written are unethical. Teachers/Educators work by a code of ethics and many things are in the gray area. He needs to realize how serious his actions are. NO, he would never be fired and no actions toward his record would ever be taken. However, as a teacher he needs to understand the impact his accusations can have upon him. I am an educator myself who feels teachers are role models for students and are there to teach as well as protect them from adverse consequences. His inappropriate comments and behavior are uncalled for.

Comments like:

“Big words for a little maggot like you and Roswell. Tell me, do your kids have all 10 fingers and toes? Yea, I thought so.”

What teacher would sink so low as to call a student (a child) out by number and talk about him? Are you kidding me? He should be ashamed of his comments. If he posts comments such as the one above on a blog board, could you imagine what goes on in his classroom? I know I wouldn’t want my child in his classroom.

He needs to apologize first to the young man and his family, then the Roswell fans. Finally, he needs to apologize to the McEachern community for the embarrassment.

By EAGLEFAN

December 18, 2006 12:09 AM | Link to this

I HONESTLY FEEL THAT THAT EACH AND EVERY PERSON THAT FEELS THIS RULE SHOULD CHANGE IMMEDIATELY,SHOULD CONTACT YOUR SCHOOLS HEAD COACH OR A.D ,AND PETETION THEM TO CALL FOR A CHANGE TO THIS RULE,WHEN ALL THE POWERS THAT BE MEET IN MARCH 2007,AS TAXPAYERS , STUDENTS ,PARENTS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND ESPECIALLY THE KIDS ON THE FIELD DESERVE BETTER.WE ALL SHOULD MAKE SURE THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.ALL OF THE COMMENTS IVE SEEN HERE ARE FROM ROSWELL AND PEACHTREE RIDGE .WE HAVEN’T HEARD FROM THE DUBLIN AND CHARLTON CO. FOLKS

By EAGLEFAN

December 18, 2006 12:21 AM | Link to this

AND WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT TALE TO CHANGE THIS RULE? IS IT A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING? WHAT DOES IT TAKE ? IT SEEMS IT WOULD ONLY TAKE A CALL ON ONES CELL PHONE.WHAT WOULD THE RAMIFICATIONS BE IF THE CHANGE WERE MADE? A SIMPLE MATTER THAT IS SO COMPLEX!

By A Roswell Fan

December 18, 2006 12:53 AM | Link to this

Mr. T, are you sure you know what you are talking about? I’ve taken a couple of quotes from your prior postings.

“…an undergraduate degree from Boston University, 1 Masters Degree from UConn and another from University of Georgia and 3/4 of a Ph.D from Georgia State”

“I played both HS and college football. I know what I am talking about.”

Last time I checked Boston University didn’t have a football team. You are just discrediting yourself all the way around.

~A Roswell Fan

By IRAQ

December 18, 2006 04:51 AM | Link to this

NO TOO A RULE CHANGE,BUT YES TO THE AJC TO NOT ALSO TAKE A KNEE AND LET US BLOGGERS WRITE THE STORY (NO GUTTS NO GLORY) FOOTBALL IS A MANS GAME PLAYED TO WIN LIKE ALL WARS.

By "Anonymous" in Marietta

December 18, 2006 07:32 AM | Link to this

The coaches decided this outcome when they voted (pre-season?)collectively to end championship games in a tie instead of OT. Is this an example of the collective attitude of our society that, “no one is a loser”? Our athletes are taught early on in school that “everyone is a winner” when trophies are liberally given out to all participants in little league games, etc. Given the choice to vote on this, why not share a title instead of being “labeled” a “loser”?

By just an observer

December 18, 2006 07:44 AM | Link to this

ENOUGH ALREADY, WE ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE INTO THE GROUND. IT’S TIME FOR BASKETBALL….

By Brittany

December 18, 2006 07:54 AM | Link to this

Honestly it was a really good game. But you have to have an ending not a tie. i say they shouldve had an OT cause clearly everyone knows Peachtree Ridge was going to kill roswell. I really think its not fair to the teammates of each team. No one wants to share a state title they want it to themselves i know i would. anyway i think someone should do someting about it because The Lions deserve the State Title. I love you lions! In my book you won! Go Peachtree Ridge Lions

By Kevin Thompson

December 18, 2006 07:58 AM | Link to this

First of all, what bunch of morons came up with no overtime periods for high school football playoffs? That is absurd. Five nmonths of hard work, sweat and blood for a tie? After two overtime periods perhaps, but not at the end of regulation.

Now, what a cowardly call by the Roswell head coach, kneeling with 22 seconds left. With a top rated passing attack he had at least two shots at the end zone, or at least field goal position. Pathetic. I’m sure his players would have rather lost going for it then to tie by giving up. What a shame!

By Zeke

December 18, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

You all have been duped. Mr. T is likely a freshman at Milton who just wanted to tick off the Roswell people. Looks like he did a good job.

By Shannon

December 18, 2006 09:44 AM | Link to this

I live in Roswell and happened to be in Dublin this weekend visiting family and when I first heard that Dublin & the team they were playing tied, I couldn’t believe it. I thought how can a state championship game end in a tie?? Then when I heard Roswell & Peachtree Ridge’s game also ended in a tie I was dumbfounded. The state of Georgia seriously needs to rethink changing the rules here. I do remember when I was in high school (I went to Parkview - another state championship team albeit not when I was in school in the early to mid 80’s) that during the regular season if a game ended in a tie, then it ended in a tie and that’s fine for regular season play, but during the playoffs they most definetely should have an exception to that rule.

By gwinnettfan

December 18, 2006 09:50 AM | Link to this

entertaining discussion…now, can we be done with football? Maybe the ajc can move on and cover some of the other fine student-athletes in Gwinnett County.

By Zeke

December 18, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

This isn’t a “State of Georgia” rule. It’s a rule that was enacted by the Georgia High School Association, and if you want to let them know how you feel, their web site is http://ghsa.net

By jimmy chitwood

December 18, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

Consistency please. I do not have a problem with the tie if these are the rules in the regular season. However, this is not the case.

Remember one thing, though. Thirty years from now there will be twice as many stories of winning state championships. It may not seem like it now but a state championship is a state championship.

By Todd Holcomb

December 18, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Be aware that the GHSA enacted this rule over 50 years ago. As best we can figure, no one has made an official proposal to change the rule in over 25 years, if ever.

So while the GHSA’s executive director, Ralph Swearngin, defends and supports the current rule, it doesn’t make sense to me to criticize him or the GHSA for having it, unless you believe they should’ve changed it.

But, again, nobody has ever asked them to change it. There was a tie in 2004, but nobody asked. At least not officially by drawing up a proposal and submitting it to the executive committee.

By Mr. T Exposed

December 18, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

To Mr. T - You have been exposed for who you really are. 1) A liar 2) A delusional imbecile and 3)An absolute moron with severe physiological problems. My advice, quit embarrassing yourself on this blog and bow out before your true identity is discovered.

By Zeke

December 18, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

I’m sure both schools will get their rings and wear them proudly. At least the local Balfour reps will get nice bonuses.

By Glenn Holmes

December 18, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Did you see the reaction after the P’ridge and Roswell Game? Both teams player looked less than happy. Bewildered would describe the players reaction!

And consider this - the Super bowl or the World Series ending in a tie. Enough said. Ties suck in any sporting event and I think the GHSA needs a big change.

And while I’m ranting, somehow getting all classifications on TV would be a great idea - some of the lower classifications have some of the most competitive games. I watched 3 of Alabama’s finals on cable and I think they broadcast all thier classifications. I think their is commercial value in high school games which are some of the most intertaining football out there. Alabama’s games were on commercial cable not PBS.

For what it’s worth, GlennHolmes

By joetex

December 18, 2006 12:02 PM | Link to this

GlennHolmes - did you watch any of the games on GPB?

how would you compare the quality of the telecast between Georgia (CSS and GPB) and Alabama?

By Charles

December 18, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Makes about as much sense as having no playoff games for Region Championship in 7AA - A and 7AA - B. Instead they flipped a coin at the beginning of the season to decide whether A or B would be region champs if leading teams had like records. Calhoun would have much rather played Pepperell for the championship.

It is crazy when teams come away feeling like they lost or accomplished nothing. Ties happen often and for that reason there needs to be room for tie-breakers. I can’t understand why anyone would come up with something so out of line. Settle it on the field so everyone can let it rest. They have overtime in regular season play don’t they? So why not the most important game?

By Brad

December 18, 2006 12:49 PM | Link to this

Ending a state chmpionship game ina tie is like saying the SUPERBOWL is going to end in a tie,it doesnt make any sense at all

By Mike L

December 18, 2006 01:03 PM | Link to this

Totally insane. You play OT games in regular season games as well as the playoffs, but not in the state Championship game????. And yet GHSA states it’s because no one has inititated a rules change in last 15 years. Your the rule making body, do something about it. While your at it change the rule concerning kickoffs going into the endzone that can’t be ran out and their ruled a touchback. Your taking a huge part of the game away. Get it together.

By Lwood

December 18, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

It’s obvious that the teacher from McCeachern is the a politically correct jerk. This is all part of the “Pussification of America” teach our kids to be nice to everyone and not hurt peoples feelings. Competition is competition.

By Brent Scott

December 18, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

I believe that it is time for Georgia to begin a format similiar to that of California. Georgia should have a south and north section winner and then those two should play each other for the state title. This way when Peachtree Ridge and Roswell played, then even if the game ended in a tie, it would have went into overtime and there would have to have been a winner from the north to play the winner of the south (Tift County, Warner Robins, or whomever). That also would have been the case when Dublin and Charlton County played as the winner of this game would have to met the winner of the north like Lovett, Buford… With this format it answers two questions.

1.) There never would be a tie in a championship game as the north and the south would have to play to determine the true champion.

2.) It would also put to rest who has the better team either the north and south.

Now say for instance there is two teams that end up undefeated from either the north and the south in the same classification. It is simple, prior to the championship game, those two teams play to determine the representative in each classification.

This way, number one can play number on and then truly decide the champion of Georgia.

By PRHS Band Mom

December 18, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

For those of you who are defending the Roswell fans, as someone who was down on the field when the PRHS Marching Band was playing, RHS’s fans behaved horribly. Our kids (the PRHS Marching Band) put many, many hours, days, weeks and months into putting together a great program. They considered being at the championship game an honor and to hear the taunts and horrible language being hollered down from the RHS stands was atrocious. I thought the stuffed toy Lion hanging in effigy from the Roswell stands was bad enough until the the biggest insult came when someone set off the “cannon” or whatever it was in the endzone right in the middle of our performance. That type of behavior would never have been allowed in our stands. It just demonstrated to me the total lack of class and good sportsmanship on the part of the Roswell fans.

By Brent Scott

December 18, 2006 01:40 PM | Link to this

Oh… I forgot one more thing. As a Jeff Davis High School graduate, if Charlton County would have beaten Dublin, then at least those Yellow Jacket football team members could have said they lost to the AA State Champions 55-0. Now they can say that they lost to half a state champ and that just doesn’t make that lopsided loss even that much worth while.

By Adam

December 18, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

I’m embarassed for the state. I just heard this morning about this and I was stunned. How slow to progress are these folks? Anyone who votes for ties doesn’t understand sports and competitiveness.

By Scooter11

December 18, 2006 01:59 PM | Link to this

The BCS can’t find a way to get two teams to point where there is a true champion via playoff. The GHSA does have a playoff, but can’t figure out a way to get a true champion out of it. Brilliant.

By From a RHS Band Mom To a PRHS Band Mom

December 18, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this

PRHS Band Mom,

I would like to apologize if any of our students were disrespectful. You have to know that not all Roswell fans are socially intolerable. Unfortunately, a championship game brought many misfits out. Most of our kids are actually very polite, respectable. Again, I apologize.

Thanks, RHS Band Mom

By roswell spectator

December 18, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

To Kevin Thompson. I wouldn’t be so quick to call people morons after your idiotic comment about the Roswell coach. With 22 seconds left, no timeouts and the ball on your 11 yard line, taking a shot at the end zone is realistic only if you have a QB that can throw the ball 70 yards in the air and a defense that will just stand around and watch while the play develops. On the other hand, what would you say to a coach who calls a timeout with one minute left and fourth-and-inches on his own 39, and after thinking about it, lets the clock run and then punts. Peachtree Ridge made the decision the game was going to end on a tie. The no OT rule may be moronic, but it’s been in the books since sometime around 1950. Georgia was not exactly a bastion of liberalism then, so for those folks who think the no OT rule is a product of a PC liberal mindset, you’re wrong again.

By Gerry Screven

December 18, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

A few days ago I posted a comment calling the person(s) that instituted the non-tie breaker, co state championship rule as being an idiot. I have since corresponded with Mr. Swearngin of GHSA and found that the rule was set in 1948. Mr. Swearngin says since he has been there (1992) no one has offered or proposed to amend or change the by-laws on this matter.

There are right ways to do things and wrong ways as well. My calling the people that set that into motion an idiot probably was not such, but more so speaking for the times in which they lived. Now almost 60 years later, times have changed and this rule needs to be updated. (or removed)

Today, at all levels of highly competitive sports, where championships are won (and lost), especially College and professiional football, tie breaking rules have been established to meet the standards and expectations of teams and fans alike. The mere fact such a rule exists in Georgia today that has gone unchallenged for so many years is not really anyone’s fault.

However, to allow this rule to continue and cause so much controversy as the two championship games that ended in ties and produced co-championships last week, would be sinfully wrong.

The GHSA has an Executive Committee meeting in March ‘07. This committee represents the member schools in the state. While anyone could show up at the meeting and ask a member to propose a change to the rules, I doubt seriously if any change would take place. Therefore, anyone that strongly believes the rule needs to be changed, needs to contact the member school systerm athletic director, the school Principles and Coaches at each high school and very calmly discuss this matter with the goal of enlisting their support to contact their member school’s Executive Committee members to not only propose such a change, but to support it when put to a vote.

The rule as so stated that there is no tie breaker for state championship games is set forth in the by-laws concerning tie breaking rules for high school football, only as ab “EXCEPTION: (to the following tie breaker rules) STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES. All that is needed is a vote to remove the “EXCEPTION” line from the beginning of the tie breaking rules. It’s that simple.

Let’s not forget that the GHSA does a terrific job with sports in our high schools statewide. So let’s try to do this the correct and proper way to get an outdated rule removed. Cool heads will prevail.

My point to support the rule change is obvious, but I will nevertheless state the following: All levels of highly competitive sports, especially football, have but one goal at the beginning of each season: To win a Championship… no where is the goal to share a championship. (I played in a championship game and lost. I am glad that I played in it. I also acknowledge the fact the other team was better and deserved to win. I can assure you, had we been offered a co-championship, regardless of the outcome, I would never have accepted it. The ultimate playing of the game should continue until it produces a winning score for one of the teams to be recognized as “The Champion”. Anything less demeans the entire process and complete efforts of all those that participated in the contest as well as all those that supported and encouraged their team from start to finish.

If the GSHA has rules for tie breakers during the regular season, whatever reasoning and justification for those tie breaker rules would equally apply and override any other thoughts or mindset that is contrary to a tie breaker rule for state championship games.

I hope each of you that contributes anything here or just reads these comments, will step up and make the calls to the proper local people at the member schools that can cause this rule change to happen. For additional information about GHSA go to their web site: www.ghsa.net select General Information and then member schools to find the contact information for each member school.

By Puddin

December 18, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

SCREVEN, First you need someone in the GHSA with a head for it to be cool much less conscience. No one is willing discuss the under belly of the GHSA. How did these folks get into power? Why are the officiating crews so poor? WHY IN THE H3!! DO WE HAVE CO-CHAMPS? Dont answer, I know why. No one cares at the executive level. If they did someone would have said “Hey, do you know we have a 1948 rule that allows of OT to decide regular season games and no provision for the state championship game. What a total waste of leadership. For Swearingen to say “No body has complained about it” is pethetic excuse for covering you @55! Sorry bloggers I AM P!553D

Let’s not forget that the GHSA does a terrific job with sports in our high schools statewide. So let’s try to do this the correct and proper way to get an outdated rule removed. Cool heads will prevail.

By HoustonCounty16

December 18, 2006 04:14 PM | Link to this

First of all I go to HoCo and I hate Warner Robins and Northside. I hate sharing a stadium with them. They feel the same way about us too. But nobody is going to put us down just because their jealous about the REAL football we play here at The Mac in Central Georgia. At least our stadium can hold a state championship game.

By HoustonCounty16

December 18, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this

You must be the person telling kids even though you lost you guys are still winners in my book. Well screw that garbage. You either win or you lose, that’s why the scoreboard was invented.

By RHS Student (soph)

December 18, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

hmmm…Still no answer the the BU11SH!T roughing the passer call

By HoustonCounty16

December 18, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

PRHS Band Mom, Get a clue. Nobody bought tickets to listen to the band. They wanted to see a football game. In case you haven’t noticed most people are at the concession stand or in the bathroom when the band is performing. And as far as the trash talking and the effigy hanging, get over it. Football isn’t about being nice and pretty and $hit. It’s about talking trash and knocking people’s heads off. If you can’t handle the heat stay away from the fire.

By To David Purdum

December 18, 2006 04:33 PM | Link to this

Mr.Purdum you would put the score 21-14 for P’tree as if it means something. Your so bias to Gwinnett County Teams that it’s almost comical. Football is played in other counties besides Gwinnett, the growth is over in that county and parity begins!!!!!

By Zeke

December 18, 2006 05:24 PM | Link to this

Hey RHS Student, maybe no one is addressing the call because it was a good call. I know you’ve not considered that possibility because the call actually went against your team, but sometimes the team you root for actually DOES commit a penalty. I’ve seen it one tape several times, and the call was correct. And no, I don’t hate Roswell. I don’t care for either team, so I am looking at it objectively.

By SPX fan

December 18, 2006 05:44 PM | Link to this

Quit whining or go play baseball. As Tom Hanks said “There’s no tying in baseball.”

If everybody’s so upset about a tie, have the schools get together before the game and agree on a way to break it. Do it with a coin flip, after all a champion should be lucky as well as good. Then we can have a winner and a loser. That’s the american way.

You need to have a winning team and a losing team to determine who gets into the playoffs and who advances but for the final game it’s up for debate if it’s win/lose or draw. No team must go forward to play again.

Obviously many people are unable to deal with the angst of a tie. You don’t have to second guess if you are the winner. In a tie everything gets second guessed and blame can be placed everywhere. The officiating must have been pretty good because the officials have not been blasted.

In time, most of the players involved in the tied championship game will understand that they are champions and most of the players who weren’t involved in the championship games will understand that they are winners.

For the rest of us get real or get a life.

By Zeke your wrong

December 18, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this

Zeke - I have had non several partial individuals look at that play and in their opinion (all said) that was a judgment call that was blown as the Roswell player was committed to the tackle just in full stride about two strides away and could not physically hold up. Again if that call is made proper then there is a sole champion (4th down and you are punting to us) - Final: Roswell 14 - PR 6. As it is we have to share it due to a blown call. Sad officiating to decide a game in that way. PR fans you can choose to deny but facts speak louder than words. And this is one that will always stand out and be talked about as the suspect/blown call that changed the outcome of the game..

By DHS Band Dad

December 18, 2006 05:51 PM | Link to this

To HoustonCounty16

They may not but tickets to see the band, but the band is there all year to support the team. Our players and coaches appreciate our band. Without the band, it’s just a game.

Our kids put in long hours to perform well, they play in the stands during the game to cheer on our team. Or sometimes to disrupt the other team, it hard to call signals over a good drumline.

PRHS Band Mom and RHS Band Mom -

Until someone finds a way to discipline the students disrupting the half-time shows, nothing can be done. Maybe we should video the stands and forward it to the administrators for action.

Last but not least, a TIE?

By This is real - its fact

December 18, 2006 05:54 PM | Link to this

SPX fan : The 2nd half officiating was suspect especially a blown late hit call that gave PR a 1st down on what would have been 4th down and PR punting on the drive they then scored on. It was a very poor judgement call made that turned the game around.

By Zeke

December 18, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this

I’ll type this slowly since your reading comprehension isn’t so good. I am not a fan of either team, so don’t say things like “4th down and you are punting to us.” I’m not punting to any of you. And you really should get some IMpartial people to look at the play, not partial ones like you talked about. My judgment is that the call was correct. Yours is the opposite, but you certainly aren’t impartial. The fact is that most uneducated fans miss that kind of call all the time. It was a penalty according to the rules of the sport. Like it or not, that is the only fact here.

By SPX fan

December 18, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this

Quit whining or go play baseball. As Tom Hanks said “There’s no tying in baseball.”

If everybody’s so upset about a tie, have the schools get together before the game and agree on a way to break it. Do it with a coin flip, after all a champion should be lucky as well as good. Then we can have a winner and a loser. That’s the american way.

You need to have a winning team and a losing team to determine who gets into the playoffs and who advances but for the final game it’s up for debate if it’s win/lose or draw. No team must go forward to play again.

Obviously many people are unable to deal with the angst of a tie. You don’t have to second guess your screw-ups if you are the winner. If you tie everything gets second guessed and blame can be placed anywhere.

In time, most of the players involved in the tied championship game will understand that they are champions and most of the players who weren’t involved in the championship games will understand that they are winners.

For the rest of us get real or get a life.

By SPX fan

December 18, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

To This is real - its fact. I didn’t think my 1st post went through so I resent a changed version after reading other posts on that roughing call.

Re: Bands. If you think these student/muscians have not worked their butts off or are not competing, think again. You back your football team but if your gridders can’t win you’ve got something to be happy about if you have a decent band.

Maybe harassing the band is one way to mirror football’s offense & defense. On offense you play, on defense you drown out (just kidding).

I read that SWD band was good but I didn’t see them so I go with the Columbia band. They played (at Panthersville Stadium) and marched using several styles, were enthusiastic and could be heard by deaf people in Stone Mtn. I’m not a musician but that band rocked.

Respect the bands (this is a questionable statement if it refers to Stanford University).

By Zeke your wrong

December 18, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

Zeke - My reading comprehension is just fine it’s yours that is suspect. Generalities that are facts taken out of context by you. Get your rule book out. It’s all too obvious that you have an agenda. Zeke I have seen more football than you could ever imagine so stop your “Mr. Know It All” football talk and come down to earth.

By Future Hornet

December 18, 2006 07:48 PM | Link to this

On Saturday night two teams fought to be champion. There can only be one champion. The GHSA should get togeather and change this rule. What if florida and ohio state are tied at the end of 4 quarters will they end in a tie, no they will play overtime like high school should do

By to PR Band Parent & Zeke

December 18, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

The RHS did not set off the cannon. O was surprised when it went off also and looked down on the field. It appeared someone did it for PBS as they were doing an Interview.

Did you also notice the RHS giving your band a Standing Ovation. I was 3/4 up in the stands and everyone in front was standding and cheering for your band. We appreciated how good they were and I beleive that showed some class.

Zeke I agree with you that the roughing the passer was a legit but a tough call. I think what the Ref missed was the hold on 79. As he went by the PR player the guy was grabbing him and he was frustrated. Doesn’t make it right stupid play on his part. I don’t think there was h holding penalty called all night on either of the O Lines. Our recievers got called twice on screen-delays.

By Zeke

December 18, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this

So what is my agenda? I don’t live anywhere near either school and don’t know anyone who goes or went to either school. And how do you know how much football I have seen? I don’t know how much you’ve seen, but I know you haven’t really been “watching.” You might also want to slow down your writing process, since “Generalities that are facts taken out of context by you” isn’t an actual sentence.

By tgibbs

December 18, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this

I attended the Dublin- Charlton game and then watched the end of PRH and Rosewell on tv. GHSA should change this rule. Also, GHSA should rethink ticket prices. Especially when some venues are not large enough to host title games. At Dublin many fans were forced to watch the game from behind a fence. Not a great seat after paying $12.00 for two elem. students ages 7 and 8 and two adults. Rethink co- champs, ticket prices, and venues for championship games.

By Zeke

December 18, 2006 09:55 PM | Link to this

How big is Dublin’s stadium? GHSA will never lower ticket prices. Was there any talk of moving the game to somewhere like Statesboro or Savannah for a bigger place?

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 07:38 AM | Link to this

You know GHSA will ignore all this as hipe.

The next 2 coaches who win the semi-final round should insist on the rule change before they take the field for the final game or simply REFUSE TO GO FURTHER. That might change GHSA’s mind since they get a % of the ticket sales. Hit them in the pocket book and they will listen. EVERYTHING is negotiable.

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 07:55 AM | Link to this

To Mr T ,

I was at the game when the students began trashing the field. From my vantage point, both sides were doing it. To no result, Roswell parents were screaming at the students to stop. I would apologize but I didnt do it and I didnt participate in it. I am sorry it happened but let’s dont tag Roswell alone as the criminal here.

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 08:53 AM | Link to this

I disagreed with Roswell downing the ball with time on the clock, OT or no OT. You can argue against the risk of throwing an interception but they played with no regard for this risk the whole game. Why change now ? How many long balls did they throw throughout the game ? Have seen this kind of play all season. You can bet that Peachtree would have put the ball up had they been the last one with the ball.

The determination of the game came when Roswell was 1st and goal on the 6 and they passed every down.
Poor coaching (VARNER) LOST this game (or I guess I should say prevented the WIN) for Roswell.

Defense has carried Roswell all year and did again in this game. They were obviously tired because the offense could not sustain a drive. If there had been an OT, Roswell would have LOST. Defense was sucking wind and offense produced zero in the 2nd half.

OK .. shoulda, woulda, coulda … and if a frog had wings he could fly too !! Yea, yea, yea. I understand all that but you also must look back at your mistakes and make adjustments. When coaches or players dont make adjustments or try to improve there comes a time when the plug must be pulled. McFarlin needs to make a coaching change.

I am a Roswell fan but I guess the truth must sometimes hurt.

By Zeke your wrong again

December 19, 2006 09:19 AM | Link to this

Zeke - sorry that this sentence is above your head and your reading comprehension. It is all too obvious your lack of football knowledge. It may be best that take some time off from this blog.

By Kevin Thompson

December 19, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

To Roswell Spectator;

Do you not rememebr the 85 yard TD pass in the first half? They could have at least took three shots at the end zone. While the odds were against them, it was possible. Even though their QB overthrew three potential TD’s earlier in the game he is still a very good QB and could have come thru for them in this instance. Two 30 yard gains out of bounds, could have put them in position for a long field goal attempt. That would have certainly been better than just caving in with a kneel.

By Big Pa Pa

December 19, 2006 10:32 AM | Link to this

After reading all the blogs above, It is clear that the GHSA has no clue what sports is about. I’m a norcross fan and player parent and a youth football coach. In Gwinnett Football League, a youth league, even we don’t end in a tie. I’m very upset to have to watch players from both teams be unhappy and confused about what to think. They train and practice hard all season to get to and possibly win the state championship, not walk across the field to the other team after the game and say “Congratulations I Guess?” GHSA, you have lost the faith of geaorgia teams, schools and parents with such a stupid rule that you should have changed. To Roswell and Peachtree Ridge, I say ” Congrats”. You both played like champions and do not deserve this treatment from the GHSA. You are both class acts in the state of Georgia and represent Georgia proudly. Good Job and Good Luck next season. Hopefully by then, the GHSA will become adults and not infants and do the right thing. Big PA PA.

By Dwalk

December 19, 2006 12:31 PM | Link to this

My coach use to tell us a tie was like kissing your sister!!!!!! Enough Said!!!

By Just Being Me

December 19, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

I understand how people feel cheated by not having a ‘sole’ winner for the championship game I was there. I do think that there should be a different type of ruling as to how these games should end in the event of a tie. It would have been nice if the athletes would have known (if they didn’t already). Everyone does not handle every situation the same way and to criticize 15,16,17, and 18 year old KIDS to be men and how they should react to a heartbreaker makes us more LOSERS than they could ever be. Both coaches made decisions they their players can live with. As a previous blogger stated earlier 30 years from now or even 1 year from now they can say that ‘THEY’ shared the State title not the spectators. It takes more guts and brains to do what those two coaches did at the end than anyone can imagine except another coach. I’ve been on a lost 4th and inches and a ‘Hail Mary’ that was run back for a TD Let the ‘What Ifs’ go and move on.

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 01:05 PM | Link to this

to ‘Confused in Roswell’

My son was on the sideline and told me, yes, the Roswell coaches knew a TIE would be the result with no OT when they downed the ball near the end.

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

I will bet Mr T is a closet AJC reporter. He is obviously no teacher.

It is strange how some answer to everything except for the question asked or to counter the point made. This is called blowing smoke.

By #57

December 19, 2006 01:35 PM | Link to this

Thanks Dad for standing up for me - go get Mr T and please let me watch.

The reason I threw my helmet was that there was this bee, ‘er I mean hornet, swarming around in my head. I got that sucker off quick !! Whew !!

By MarK

December 19, 2006 01:37 PM | Link to this

Your only shot at changing this is to email the GHSA at ghsa@ghsa.net

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 01:54 PM | Link to this

The PRHS band did a great half time show and everyone around me clapped. If you heard some foul word it certainly didnt come from Roswell.

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this

To Brent Scott of California

We dont care what they do in California.

By DirtDobber

December 19, 2006 02:07 PM | Link to this

How about a name and email more specific than ghsa@ghsa.net ?

Everyone needs to write in asking for a rule change but please, (gee wiz) PLEASE be civil if you expect to be heard.

By MarK

December 19, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

I gave you the email address. Go to ghsa.net and track down a name if you want one.

By PRHS Band Mom

December 19, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this

Thank you RHS Band Mom, DirtDobber and anyone else who wrote in the blog in support of not only PRHS Band but HS Bands in general. I don’t think a lot of people realize how much time and effort is put into it by our kids.

For those of you who don’t think the bands are an important part of football you are very wrong. When our band was away in Hawaii over Thanksgiving (because they were invited to play at Pearl Harbor and in the Waikiki Holiday Parade) they weren’t at of the playoff games. After that game several football parents and coaches commented that they really missed the spirit and enthusiasm the band brings to the game. On Saturday while everyone on the PRHS side was celebrating more than one football player came up and shook the band director’s hand and thanked everyone for being there for them. That was so classy and so appreciated by everyone involved with the PRHS Marching Lions.

To all Band Moms/Dads/Directors out there… Keep up the good work!

By To PRHS Band Mom

December 19, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

I would like to say sorry for the disgusting things. A couple of my friends said some mean things. My cousin was in the RHS band and i know how much work is put into the season. Sorry for the rude behavior by my friends

By Zeke

December 19, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this

Again, “Generalities that are facts taken out of context by you.” is not an actual sentence. Ask your English teacher, or just ask anyone with a basic knowledge of sentence structure.

By Brent scott

December 20, 2006 12:59 AM | Link to this

To Dirt Dobber… well at least here in California, we have champions that do not have to share their titles. Seems like a no brainer to me. Wait a minute… Georgia cannot get anything right. This is why I left in the first place. Good luck in figuring the GHSA rules out and all the other a** backwards stuff that the state of Georgia is messed up in like supporting George Bush, electing Sonny Perdue, immigration rules that are illegal and immoral and the resent ban on same sex marriage. If Cally is so messed up, then why do people move here by the droves. Oh and one more thing, get a new name Dirt Dobber.. You have got to be kidding me!

By To Brent scott

December 20, 2006 11:43 AM | Link to this

a number of things: thanks for moving to california; california has an ‘invite’ play-off system; california allows private schools to stack teams; most of the folks moving to california are wackos, gays and illegals so i bet you feel right at home there. ps we don’t miss you so don’t come back to ga.

By noneya

December 20, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand what harm it will do to include overtime in the championship game. I think the coaches who are FOR the tie games should be forced to kiss their sisters and see if they like it!

I know all the arguments about sportsmanship blah, blah, blah. You don’t play a game for no result. You either win or lose.

By DivinDirtDobber

December 20, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

To Brent Scott

Have been to CA on many occasions and you can have it. People move FROM there not TO there “in droves”. CA is brown, dirty, dusty - GA and the southeast is beautiful and green.

I wont debate politics or lifestyle.

We will get our GHSA rules revised - dont you worry yourself over it. If you cannot sleep at night go discuss it with your therapist and you’ll feel a lot better in about 10 years.

You dont even know what a “Dirt Dobber” is !

By DivinDirtDobber

December 20, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

To MarK

Thank you Sir. I just thought there might be more precise email addresses for each of the board members. I will use the general email as suggested.

By DirtDobber

December 20, 2006 04:02 PM | Link to this

Do not understand the debate over the roughing the passer call. It is a subjective judgement by the refs but it is simply part of the game. Roswell had two of these calls if you remember although the first didnt pay off for PRHS. The second did.
You can play shoulda, woulda, coulda, and “what if” all day long folks - The end result is the scoreboard and that is what goes down in the record books. I am sorry it resulted in a TIE as much for PRHS as for RHS but they both played hard. I am proud of the kids’ effort. I got a “bone to pick” with the coaches but that can wait - I am going to offer up my Grandmother to replace the OC.
The game is not perfect but I can live with it.

By DirtDobber

December 20, 2006 04:11 PM | Link to this

TO PRHS Band Mom

The PRHS band looked good and sounded great. You have everything to be proud of.

See you next year.

By Derek

December 22, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

Please let me know how the AJC’s All-State Football selection process is done? The reason being is it amazes me how a kid can be selected as Defensive Player of the Year by the coaches of his region and not for all state or at least honorable mention. Pleae explain this to me?

Thanks

By Megan

December 25, 2006 10:44 PM | Link to this

We made it so far just to be named CO-Champions? We have to share our title with another team? Both teams played an awesome game.. but do we really want to share what we’ve worked so hard to earn?

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