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By WarrenMoonFan#11

November 16, 2006 09:02 AM | Link to this

It’s true night is a jerk. He is a first class jerk. But this was a non-issue. What do people want from Bobby Knight? Do they want him to get fired? He did. Has he done anything at his new job that should get him fired? No.

So leave him alone.

By RecCoach

November 16, 2006 09:15 AM | Link to this

Well, back in the day a high school coach could get away with far more worse than what Knight did and nobody did a thing about it. It was common for a High School coach to bulldog you into the ground by your face mask, plant his size 12 shoe in your azz. But nowadays you can’t do that kinda stuff. If a player ever has the guts to hit Knight back I think we might be visiting that player in the hospital. Bob Knight is a tough guy. Every player he has on the team made a decision to attend that school after all the recruiting visits. They know of his coaching style and his temperament. They signed the letter of intent which basically says “You pay for my education, I’ll play for you”. Knight is a great coach, he gets the most from his players. I’ve never heard him look at the upcoming season as a “rebuilding year” because the man knows how to shape and mold those players into being competitive. OK, so most coaches don’t touch their players like Knight does, but most of them verbally abuse their players. That’s just a part of coaching. I’ve never seen one of Knight’s players that makes it to the NBA in trouble. They come out well disciplined individuals. Chastisement never hurts anyone when applied for a just cause. That’s why our kids in school now are such a mess, they know “you better not touch me”.

By Ponce

November 16, 2006 09:38 AM | Link to this

Kids today get away with too much. The nuns used to do all sorts of stuff to us growing up. We hated them then, but looking back it made me a better man.

I fear for the future of the country, the way today’s kids are coddled.

By David P.

November 16, 2006 09:51 AM | Link to this

Warren Moon … I think what they want from Knight is for him to quit hitting his players.

Rec. Coach … Do you believe there is a way to discipline a child without teaching that it’s OK to physically harm someone?

Ponce … I’m sorry the nuns hurt you.

By RecCoach

November 16, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

David P., your question was “do you think there is a way to discipline a child without teaching that it’s ok to physically harm someone”? My answer is it depends on the child. Kids react differently to the type of discipline. There are some kids where the TIME OUT works wonders, there are others who DON’T GIVE A RATS AZZ ABOUT TIME OUT. I raised 4 kids of my own. I had some that I could talk to and that would suffice, I had others that I had to beat their azz to make them understand because the more I talked the more they did.

And one more thing, Knight is NOT HARMING his players. And if you’re on the team and you can’t deal with Knight, find yourself another school.

By WarrenMoonFan#11

November 16, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

He didn’t hit his player. Even you said that. What they really want is a story. Anything that has his name attached to it is a story.

Seriously…what are we really upset about with this guy, other than the fact that he is a big jerk. Is it that odd that he hates the press? It is that odd that he’s a coach who’s also a bully? I wonder how I would handle being asked dumb questions about the game I just lost, or dumb questions about things that are non-issues (this thing). I don’t have any more patience for that than he does to be honest. I don’t know how most coaches handle that.

It’s his job to make a team, not to please the press. Isn’t it funny how the bad guys are sports are primarily the guys who don’t get along with the press. Jason Giambi can openly cheat and they love him. ARod is aloof, and they hate him. Which guy is really worse?

By David P.

November 16, 2006 11:00 AM | Link to this

Rec Coach … Coach Knight certainly harmed Neil Reed when he grabbed him by his throat. I don’t have any children, so I certainly bow down to your expertise. But I do know if I’m ever lucky enough to have a child, I never want them to be afraid that I might turn to violence.

Warren Moon … Smacking someone’s chin is considered hitting to me. It’s the easy way out to blame the media for covering a controversial figure. Again, I don’t think Monday’s event was that big of deal, but how hard is it just to keep your hands off your players?

By WarrenMoonFan#11

November 16, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

It’s not easy to blame the press, because there’s never any recourse against the press. How can you battle the press and still have people like you? It’s impossible. I watch the Sports Reporters on ESPN somewhat regularly, andl those guys are all insufferable. Are we really supposed to take our cues about being a good person from them? But they do! They are in charge of the PR for the entire sports world. I wonder what they would think of any of us the first time we didn’t want to deal with them, or after a big loss, and they asked us if we were leaving the team (a la Roy Williams after the KU/Syracuse game). Jerks!

By David P.

November 16, 2006 01:53 PM | Link to this

The media did not hit the T-Tech player. We simply reacted to the interest displayed by readers/viewers. Why do you watch SportsReporters if you think those guys are insufferable? Each member has an opinion. You decided whether to agree or disagree. The best way to let the media know that you’re not satisfied with their coverage is by not watching, reading or listening. Asking the tough questions is part of our job. It’s definitely not most fun part, but asking Coach Williams about his future was a matter of interest.

By BleedingThumbs

November 16, 2006 02:54 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t mind a bit if any other coach did that to a player, but he has to know he can’t touch his players at all. No ones fault but his own. Wish Sprewell played for him, would like to see someone retaliate.

By WarrenMoonFan#11

November 16, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

Did anyone not cringe when they asked Roy Williams that? Did anyone really need to know at that moment the answer to that question? Only the press, who feeds off itself to create hype and controversy, felt like that question needed to be answered.

The touch question is tough becuase it’s hard to answer, not hard to ask.

Furthermore, what I watch on Sunday mornings really defies logic. I spent an hour and a half watching that weird hunting show on ESPN 2 also, but that doesn’t make me a fan. I was mostly watching that show because it was the only thing sports-related on the air at that time. Around the Horn is the same way. Journalists all have to have a “take” on everything. And usually it’s embarrassingly clear that these “takes” are really just their desparate attempt to come up with something, anything to write about on a daily basis. I don’t envy them, I’m sure it’s hard. But making a big deal out of things that aren’t a big deal is not the answer. In the Knight case, the kid’s not mad, the schools not mad, the parents aren’t mad, but the press is mad. Who’s making this a story?

By Eric Drouant

November 16, 2006 03:34 PM | Link to this

I think at some point a coach has to be better than his players. By that I mean his behavior has to be above the level of bullying to get what he wants. A verbal dressdown is plenty effective when the coach is respected by the kids who play for him. Any type of physical attack means the coach doesn’t have the brains to handle the problem or motivate his players.

By Puddin

November 16, 2006 05:16 PM | Link to this

GO BOBBY I would have no problems with a highschool coach doing what coach Knight did. Kids are coddled these days. They have no respect for teachers, coaches or adults. WC Field put it best:Kids should be put in a box at birth with a small hole in the top. At age 13, seal up the hole. My parents, coaches and teachers would have been arrested for child abuse in todays world. Violence does not solve problems, but a little kick in the a$$ every so often keeps their attention. GO DAWGS!

By Ponce

November 16, 2006 06:44 PM | Link to this

Here yall go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIwLF2JkkwA

That is the result of the Bobby Knights of the world.