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Grow up, Hillary supporters

Diehard Hillary supporters — especially feminists and professional women — risk an image as whiners and cry-babies if they don’t stop complaining about Hillary’s defeat and the way they are allegedly being treated by the Obama camp.

Politics is a tough, mean game, and it’s not for the faint of heart. Take a look at John McCain. George Bush’s surrogates treated him in a way no honorable American deserves to be treated, going so far as to put out ugly rumors about his adopted Bangladeshi daughter.

But McCain understood the game. That’s why there’s video of him hugging Bush at the convention in 2004. If you can’t play the game that way — quickly getting over so-called mistreatment by your rivals — you don’t need to be in it. Hillary’s supporters should grow up.

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By Gram

August 26, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

I like seeing Dimocrats divided over the “snubbing” Hillary received from Obama. It is just that many more votes for McCain.

By Aaron

August 26, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Ms Obama is an idiot as is her husband who is only in consideration due to liberal white guilt and pansy political correctness. This election disgusts me

By Ted

August 26, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Way to inspire unity Cynthia. But keep it up - I’m sure there are lots of disenfranchised Hillary supporters who are looking at McCain, and liking what they are seeing.

The real question is - if Obama loses in November, will there be riots?

By Buck

August 26, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

John McCain is an honorable American? I thought he was a war-mongering, senile, filthy-rich neo-con! I’m so confused…

By Greg

August 26, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

The one thing that the supporters are totally ignoring is the dysfunctional champaign staff that she and Bill put together. Hillary is not bigger than the process..thats something that the supporters and Ms Clinton have a hard time coming to gripes with…..

By Peadawg

August 26, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Geeze..sounds like Cynthia is “hatin”(isn’t that what dems say these days) on Hillary.

By caveon

August 26, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Whiners and crybabies will not be the problem should Barack Hussein Obama not get elected! Those of Tucker’s tribe and ilk will take to the streets, and it won’t be pretty.

By Original Rick

August 26, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

We can’t talk about McCain that way: he spent time as a POW. Have respect, people.

Same with me: I used to be very overweight. I will not watch any show where a fat suit is used for comedic effect!

By Mr. R

August 26, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

John McCain, and his plastic face wife are old has beens. Where are the convalescent communities to claim another broke-down body for their quota?

By Cassandra

August 26, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Please stop blaming the ladies.

If Senator Obama is dragging in the polls, perhaps the place to look for problems is….in the Obama campaign. What is he doing wrong that he is failing to connect with average Americans?

Candidates stand or fall on their own two feet. The place to win this election is by convincing the general electorate, not by insulting and blaming a small percentage of Hillary Clinton’s supporters.

Focus on the big picture and chart the path to success in November - try to get all of America to support Senator Obama, and we will win. Focus on sounding petty and on hectoring Democratic women who originally supported Senator Clinton, and we will lose.

Let’s try to all grow up, shall we?

By Mr. R

August 26, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

John McCain…POW? coward!

By KER

August 26, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Well done Cynthia. This whole thing reminds me of the liberal idiots who can’t get over the Kerry/Edwards loss!!

By Original Rick

August 26, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

I can only think that the Hillary supporters who are thinking of McCain do not remember what the Ralph Nader supporters caused in 2000.

What we thought of the Nader voters for bringing in Bush, we will will think of you if you allow McCain to claim victory.

Are you that petty?

Someone, please tell me: what will your act serve. Do you think Hillary wants you to vote for McCain? Listen to her! Please!

By Michael H. Smith

August 26, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Did you ever dare think that these women may not agree on the issues with Mr. Obama?

By mae

August 26, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

The majority of Hillary fans supported her because of her political views. Those views are nearly identical to those of Barrack Obama. I can’t imagine any Clinton supporter who has even half a brain voting for McCain! That would give us at least four more years of the Bush fiasco. This is why I believe most of the “Democrats” who are protesting are really Republicans. I believe most online comments from supposed Clinton supporters who are threatening to vote for McCain are actually written by Republicans. They just want to stir up the Democrats, because they know that they can’t win without Democrats crossing over and voting for more of the same. According to these posts, these Clinton supporters want to use their vote — not to ensure the betterment of our country — but to protest and get revenge.

Revenge voting is not only childish, but highly irresponsible. This is something I would expect to see in Middle School among children who’s best friend lost, not by adults who are deciding the fate of their future and the future of their children! Stop throwing temper tantrums and look at the issues our country is facing and use your vote intelligently, not as a game of revenge. If these people had any maturity at all, they wouldn’t be threatening revenge voting in the first place. Revenge voting would not accomplish anything other than to hurt this country!

If these rabid protesters (who are mostly Republicans in disguise) cause McCain to win, I wish upon them all the continued suffering they will cause this nation: loved ones harmed by being sent to Iraq, gas and grocery prices too high to survive, long term illness and no health insurance resulting in home foreclosure, and job loss to a third world country.

By Chaz

August 26, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Geez, take all the ‘whiners and crybabies’ off the floor at the DNC and there’d be no one left!

By Bruce

August 26, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Say what? “If you can’t play the game that way — quickly getting over so-called mistreatment by your rivals — you don’t need to be in it. Hillary’s supporters should grow up.”

Really? This isn’t a game to me. I don’t play games with my vote. This is dead serious. Intentionally insulting 18 million voters is not a game.

Is Barak trying to split this party? Is that why he chose to snub Hillary and her supporters? Is he trying to split women from men? Is he trying to split blacks and whites? Because I gotta tell you, it sure looks like that is his ONE mission. IE: Help Reps win by making damn sure that the other side loses. You can easily do that by dismissing and insulting half the party.

All Barak had to do to unite this party was take Hillary as VP. Politically speaking, it would have been a small sacrifice and a reasonable compromise. I was willing to meet Barak halfway. In doing so, I did expect he would meet Hillary’s supporters halfway by putting her on the ticket. Then we could all unite and together set our sights on improving this government. At least that was my dream. There was no insult in my dream. There was no arrogant dismisssal of my interests. There was no 3:00 AM text message announcing Biden as the VP in my dream.

I had a dream. In this moment when we all could have come together, Barak killed my dream. I’m not sure I can forgive that.

By Tigers03

August 26, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Mr. R, if you are calling a person who was a POW to protect you and your family a coward, I ask you to please get the hell out of this country.

By Older Reporter

August 26, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

McCain plagiarized Solzhenitsyn! That story about a vietnamese prison guard drawing a cross in the dirt was lifted from the Gulag!

What a dope, honestly. What a clod.

McCain 08: Pick a book you haven’t read.

By ifgli

August 26, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

listen up - currently white america is sitting back smiling and offering no resitance or arugument to black america as black america is already celebrating obama’s election (with the exception of the talking heads on tv and radio). on election day, white america will speak with their vote and await the results. don’t trust any polls as white america is telling the pollster what he wants to hear. the 18-24 group don’t go vote. tax paying workers vote more conservative, the elderly don’t trust black america to run things and will vote for a white prez regardless of party. you do the math.

By Moe25

August 26, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

How could you say that they don’t see eye to eye on the issues when Senator Obama and Senator Clinton had very similar platforms?

By Dan

August 26, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

That would be great if they grow up, providing the old axiom of societal perspectives hold true. “If you are young and conservative, you have no heart. If you are old and liberal, you have no sense. So please grow up, all dems not just Hil lovers. though it is quite difficult to associate Hil supporters, because they like Obama supporters completely ignore the records and history of the candidates in favor of championing a symbol. All bluster and rhetoric aside, how else would the most far left of a left leaning pary even be considered a candidate? He would not have even been in the primary race had he not been black.

By CJ

August 26, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Grow up?? Hillary attracted a number of Republican voters because of her experience and her message. In contrast, Obama has attracted few, if any voters. Just look at the margins in the polls! It’s a dead heat again.

We need a candidate on the Democrat side that attracts Republicans. As the election in 2000 Bush vs. Gore demostrated, we cannot win with Democrat voters alone. We must attract a number of Republicans to get the majority vote. Notice how many Clinton supporters are jumping ship - 20% or more. If the situation was reversed, hardly any (if any) Obama supporters would go Republican.

Obama is the less strategic candidate. He would have made a fine VP for Hillary and would have been a great Presidential nominee in 2016.

By Jan

August 26, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

I will support Obama mainly because he is preferable to McCain. I believe that he should have had the wisdom to wait until his experience caught up with his popularity to run. I hope that he will grow into it but I really feel we should have had Clinton’s knowledge and experience at this critical time in history. I think that Obama’s supporters did to a certain extent get stars in their eyes rather than assessing the current situation and making the objective and rational choice.

By RCH

August 26, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Hillary will never admit defeat.Just yesterday, suitwas filed against Obama and the DNC that Obama is not a U.S citizen. (I have heard this claim before). This suit was a product of a Hillary supporter,Philip Berg,a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit—just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver—for the health of the Democratic Party. God help us if this is true!

By steve

August 26, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

How are Hillary’s supporters any different from Obama supporters who want to throw the race card any time he is challenged? They also appear to be nothing but whiners and crybabies. Maybe the Hillary supporters actually have an issue with Obama.
What has the democratic party done at all in the last 8 years other than whine and cry…oh yeah, almost forgot…$4/gallon gas. Thanks for that.

By fred

August 26, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

The arguments against Obama choosing Clinton were evident from the start: Her campaign, rife with internal struggles, bore no resemblance to his tightly run operation; the two had little personal chemistry; and hard feelings lingered after what had been a bruising primary - mostly sleazy and negative on her part. She was so confident that she would win the nomination that she burned the bridges with Obama.

By Greg

August 26, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

If Mary Jo were alive how would she have liked the “uncle Teddy” speach?

By Rod

August 26, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

If Hillary supporters help get McCain elected in 2008. I will be doing the same in 2012(Obama supporter). Independent if Obama loses and done with a Democratic party that can’t even get a man elected in the worst economy in decades, an unwanted war, foreclosure rates that are unheard of and McSame as an option. This race shouldn’t even be close but it is. Why? Because of reasons that show america is still very divided. I bet some Democrats would still vote for McCain if McCain was the bank and McCain was the Sheriff telling them their home was just foreclosed on. But it’s ok in 2028 I will vote for Brent Rashad Fernandez(multi ethnic race candidate)

By Somer

August 26, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

I have never in history seen a candidate & his wife have to explain why they are successful & educated=

As for the Michelle haters, I know it really bothers you that she left a $275k/yr job to support her husband. I betcha Aaron & the rest of the Klan don’t have the creditials to even apply for Michelle’s position or the assistant to that position. Do get mad at the Obamas because they are living the American dream. They were accepted into Ivy league schools on their grades not cause of daddy’s connections (BUSH). Nothing good comes from jealousy.

By MrLiberty

August 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Tigers03

The last time a soldier acted specifically to defend this country was the war of 1812. Everything since then has been a foreign war of choice (spanish-american, Civil, vietnam, korea, grenada, panama, gulf war, Iraq, Afghanistan) or provocation (WWI, WW2, Iran?).

McCain dropped bombs on innocents during an unprovoked and unnecessary war. For that he was imprisoned by the country he was bombing. That does not qualify him for the presidency, and his attitudes about war are one of many specific reasons why he should never be president.

Unfortunately Mr. Obama is no better in his own special “divine” way.

Support None of the Above. An option who’s time has definitely come.

By Calvin G. sims, Sr.

August 26, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Hillary took for granted that she would win the primary election and therefore did not mount an effective campaign. Obama did not beat Hillary so much as Hillary did not win.

Now, for her supporters to behave so divisively and even consider voting for John McCain is the height of stupid. McCain is no friend of women and anything he does now to show that way is just that, show. He is pro-life and he can do serious damage to Roe v Wade to say nothing of the havoc he can wreck on the supreme court.

One thing that is very telling in this situation: If Clinton supporters love Hillary so much, why aren’t they helping to retire her campaign debt?

McCain continues to attack Obama on personal issues because they know that they can not win on policy issues - George Bush’s policy. The experience argument is overrated…just look at the mess that has been made of our country by people with experience.

Finally, I am a Viet Nam vet, a Marine, so I have full respect for the sacrifices that John McCain has made for our country. But the truth is, he was shot down and captured. He failed in his mission, his sacrifice not withstanding. His father and grand father were admirals. He would have been ostracized should he have taken advantage of the early release offered to him. His career in the military and in politics would have been toast. We know this was a consideration at the time because witnesses say that he talked, even then, about being president.

I did not mean this post to criticize McCain, I just want all of these women who are whining about what happened to Hillary to think about what a McCain presidency means to them, 4 more years of the same…at best!

By Bruce

August 26, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Note to CJ:

Quote: “Hillary attracted a number of Republican voters because of her experience and her message. In contrast, Obama has attracted few, if any voters.”

That’s not true. Obama won almost every single historically red (Republican) state. He won all of the solid red south, and he took almost all of the historically red midwestern states.

In spite of what Rush Limbaugh may have told you, Obama took FAR MORE Republican votes than Hillary did.

The Republican crossover vote got Obama nominated. The real intent of those voters was to kill off Hillary, which they did. But… if Reps really supported the issues that Obama claims to represent, they already had a candidate in their own party to vote for. His name was Ron Paul. But -and this is important- voting for Ron Paul would not kill off Hillary’s campaign. Only crossing over and voting for Obama would do that.

That’s cold, hard, cruel political logic.

By JW

August 26, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

If this election were about Black vs white, Hillary would be the nominee. She lost and now her supporters want to to blame it on the press, Blacks, and anyone else available. She said it best when she stated that if you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

BTW, Blacks have been voting for whites forever and no one had a problem with that, but if they choose to vote for a Black person they are blinded, wrong thinking, and racists. What some of you bloggers need to ask yourself is, “Under what circumstances would you vote for a Black person?” I suspect that many of you have NEVER done so.

By Ed

August 26, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Just like the democrats to drag the half dead murdering Ted Kennedy to the podium for sympathy. Then they bathed, cleaned and polished Obamas mean bitter half and tried to make the rattlesnake in higheels look like a First Lady. It didn’t work. Just like picking old hairplug Biden, that didn’t work either. Obama is dead even in the latest polls with McCain when Obama should hold a double digit lead. I hope Hillary sticks it to the bloated Kennedy, Obama and his anti-Amercian never will be fit to be First Lady wife and screws the whole thing up for them. You all seem so impressed with Mrs. Obama’s lofty salary she had but you hate on Mrs. McCain because she is from money. Where the hell is the logiic there? Oh..stupid me, I expected logic from people who are dumb enough to back the idiot Obama. I foregt your gray matter is yesterdays underwear and not in your skull. My bad.

By Michael H. Smith

August 26, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

What about those rabid independents that supported Hillary; who are not card carrying party hacks?

I’m a conservative who will not vote for either McCain or Obama because I disagree with both of them on the issues. So, I need to grow up, simply throw my principles away to support things I staunchly disagree with that McCain and Obama seem to hold dearly in order to appear all grown up?

That may be grown up in the eyes of many but it is very un-American to me. I’m sure many others feel exactly the same way. We owe no one our vote.

Oh and guess what, neither party can win without the votes of independents.

By Tucker's Double Standards

August 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Didn’t Tucker whine and cry about how Vick was being treated despite the fact that he pled guilty to a heinous crime and it was time for the punishment phase? Also, I thought the Black Journal Constitution was laying off people. Apparently it wasn’t Tucker.

By Indifferent

August 26, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Hey Ed - What is your problem with Ted Kennedy? Remember Laura Bush killed someone in a drunk driving accident too and her family got it all hushed up.

By Stephanie

August 26, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Or perhaps my party should show some respect for my vote by not trashing my candidate over and over. Be nice to her. Be nice to me. It is very simple. Keep trashing her, trashing me, and acting like you are entitled to my vote and watch where it goes.

By Mike

August 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Is Tucker’s partisan hatred so intense that she can’t write a single article without partisan attacks?

We get it, Cynthia. You really hate Republicans and you think they are bad people. Can you talk about any subject without telling us about it?

By SAG

August 26, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

I am beginning to question any and all of Obama’s accomplishments. It’s obvious he thinks Hillary should be on the pavement 24/7 stumping for him. Hillary can’t do enough for Obama, according to Obama. Was he this way in all the toney schools he claims to have attended? Did his buddies take all his test for him? Has he done anything on his own ? The man has all of Hollywood and a ton of money in his pockets and he can’t get past McCain in the polls. It’s glaringly obvious that Obama is in trouble. Big trouble. McCain 2008- it’s the only way to vote. This is coming from a lifetime Democrat and a Hillary supporter who will jump the fence, this ONE time and ONE time only. I can never vote for Obama, never.

By Patricia

August 26, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

I am a registered Independent who supported Clinton in the primary. It is not whining to say that she dealt with a hostile press, a lot of sexism, and sabotage from her own party (witness MI and FL). Arguably, she won more votes than Obama.

It isn’t sour grapes to say I’m voting for McCain. I simply believe he is the better qualified candidate. Obama, to date, has done nothing with his life to inspire my confidence. One term in the Senate and helping to pass one bill while there doesn’t do it for me.

By Indifferent

August 26, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

That’s right Ed…and McCain wants to connect with middle class American’s and he cannot even recall how many damn houses he owns. That should bring in the middle class unemployed vote. Strong candidate you have there….clean your own house before condemning others.

By RealityKing

August 26, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Grow up, Hillary supporters!? This a joke, right!!??

I mean, it was Obama’s political GodFather hurling the childish racial slurs after the convension lastnight. So.., evidently, unity isn’t being achieved in the DNC because the entire party is still having race issues. How shallow we really are.. Do you need a bigger rock to hit you in the head?

Your not going to be able to blame an Obama lose on America’s tolerance level if the DNC can’t even unify. You see.., there is no racial prejudice in voting against a liberal tax and spend ideology.

By Copyleft

August 26, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

The “Hilary voters who will switch to McCain” do not exist, folks. It’s a fantasy the far right cooked up in the desperate hope that something, ANYTHING, can stop President Obama.

They’ve gone so far as to post on blogs and forums as “Former Democrat”, feigning outrage at Hillary’s “snub” and swearing to vote for McCain instead.

This, of course, is nonsense. Another smokescreen cooked up by the far-right smoke-and-mirrors machine. Hillary’s supporters want a liberal President; McCain obviously does not qualify. Some pouters might sit out the election, but the’re not going to cross over to vote for a Republican who opposes everything they stand for and care about.

Don’t be fooled, folks. The hype about “angry Hillary crossovers” is another right-wing fantasy, like the alleged “whitey” surprise videotape, the “secret Muslim” charge, and the “not an American citizen” sham. The right is desperate because they know they’re losing, and they have NOTHING to work with.

By Randall

August 26, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Stephanie: You sound very ignorant. Hillary lost. I’ve never seen so many people talking about “respect and nice” in politics. If Hillary were a man would you say these things about nice and trash? I think not. Go ahead and vote for McCain and when your job (even white collar jobs are being shipped overseas—ask Coke) and you lose your home and can’t feed the kids or educate them while McCain wears $550 shoes and lives in one of his 7 homes…. whatever. Grow up please this election is too important. Hillary ran a bad campaign and America is tired of politics as usual.

By jojo

August 26, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Way to go, Cynthia! They’re all whining and crying!

By km

August 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

for you hillary supporters who are going to mccain, consider this:

there are many elderly supreme court justices who may retire soon. do you want a conservative president appointing them? if so, vote mccain and say bye bye to roe v wade and a slew of other socially liberal policies for decades to come.

otherwise, vote obama, who’s policies and views are very close to those that hillary espouses

vote on the issues please!

By Reg

August 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Aaron,Ted et al…….please continue spewing hate and dissention it’s sad to think that if we were talking about a white JFK clone this wouldn’t be an issue. Based on the way the country is going are your really better off now than you were 8 years ago….be honest with yourself.

By Kathy

August 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Hey Bruce

The cold, hard, cruel political truth is that Obama will not in any of those RED states in November. It will as in the past few elections come down to the “swing” states in which Hillary did much better. Unless he can win over those states Democrats are in BIG trouble and picking Joe Biden for VP didn’t help his cause.

By hotlanta

August 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

It is just amazing how Hiliary supporters want her in there because she is white and female. But AA stand accused of voting for Obama because he is black/male. Doesn’t this seem racist to you. She has been proven to be a liar. Yeah she is still dodging enemy fire. Her own staff didn’t have health insurance but she tells us she can get it for everyone. I don’t blame Omama she will be texting Bill every 5 minutes about what he is doing.

By hotlanta

August 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

It is just amazing how Hiliary supporters want her in there because she is white and female. But AA stand accused of voting for Obama because he is black/male. Doesn’t this seem racist to you. She has been proven to be a liar. Yeah she is still dodging enemy fire. Her own staff didn’t have health insurance but she tells us she can get it for everyone. I don’t blame Omama she will be texting Bill every 5 minutes about what he is doing.

By Rod

August 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

From Registered Democrat. If McCain wins I’m Independent. I will help the ones supporting him now keep him in office in 2012. What’s good for the Clinton Democrats now is good for the Obama Democrats in 2012. Blacks have no problem voting a straight democrat ticket for the most part. It’s time blacks wake up and do like everyone else get mad and vote for or against someone. Agenda be damned. If lessons are taught to Obama and his supporter(I’m one) this year I plan on teaching the same lesson in 2012 to Clinton supporters and becoming Independent. I want the Swing vote party to decide elections if this one doesn’t go the way it should with Obama winning period.

By Kevin

August 26, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

I’m glad to see some things don’t change…I still don’t like Ms. Tucker. Imagine how she would be whining if Mr. Obama would have lost!

By Somer

August 26, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

With all the negative statements about Michelle remember that Cindy McCain is nothing but a mistress. With all the money and connections that Cindy had in her 20’s, the best mate that she could find is an old wrinkled up man that was already married to someone else. It makes you wonder why her rich family couldn’t even unload her off to the son of one of their rich country club friends. If Barack & John marriages were switched, Michelle would be called every whorish azz name ever written. The GOP would have Baracks 1st wife on a media tour… Oh, he left me when I got sick and fat!.

By Charles W.

August 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

If you have been a lifelong Democrat and you vote for McCain you are a traitor. Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton share very similar principles and plans to get our country back on track. How could you say McCain is more qualified when you were going to vote for Hilary. You will regret it when McCain changes his stripes and puts conservative justices on the Supreme Court who will work to reverse Roe V. Wade. McCain has been clear that is what he will do. He will continue the tax cuts that have completely wiped out the surpluses the Clinton Administration built.

Are you really that bitter that you would vote for more of the same. Do you see what condition our country is in? Do you care? If you claim to care about this country you will vote for Obama because you CLAIM you were voting for Hilary because of her plans for the country and not just because she was a woman.

Oh, and I believe Barack Obama was ahead double digits in the polls leading up the New Hampshire primary and lost big. If you trust those polls then you are truly delusional. See Tom Bradley and the Bradley Effect in CA.

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama went out on the campaign trail and played by the rules that all the Dems had agreed to follow. And then the Clintons started losing some of those “inevitable” voters to the guy who organized his followers and ran a clean, mean campaign machine. What did the Clintons do, but whine that the caucus states should not count and that the illegal votes in Michigan and Florida should count.

I’m guessing there’s maybe 2 or 3 very vocal “PUMA” supporters who are just trying to get themselves on TV with their griping. Why not follow Hillary’s lead and face the facts about what’s ahead if you vote out of spite for 4 more years of Bush’s policies, and quit yer b!tchin’ all because your 1st choice did not ultimately win the primary race.

By RealityKing

August 26, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Why can’t Obama close the deal? Are these non-existent Hillary crossovers also dubiously polling for McCain in swing states?? Or is America starting to see that Obama’s inexperience would put us all at risk.

McCain will put America first. We know that for sure..

By DeDe

August 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Hey did you know there is group out there called “Hillary supporters for McCain”? Way to go. They have the goods on Obama. The simple fact is….. He just is not experienced enough to run this Country. I am afraid he will become a patsy and others will be running the Country behind him. Go with McCain, 4 years….

By The Truth

August 26, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Hey Cynthia,

Stop whining? Isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black. You have been whining your entire editorial career! This is hilarious!

By Older Reporter

August 26, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

McCain plagiarized Solzhenitsyn! McCain first embellished his narrative with a story identical to a passage from the Gulag (where a prison guard draws a cross in the sand) during his 2000 campaign.

Why didn’t McCain ever mention it before then?

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

You see.., there is no racial prejudice in voting against a liberal tax and spend ideology.

UnReality @ 1:44 — but I guess we can conclude you prefer borrow and spend ideology instead? How childish and selfish you are. Does that make you feel better, to say it’s all about the tax-n-spend, but you have no problems with your Party continuing to bankrupt this great country of ours, all in the name of your big corporate looters and BIG WARS that have to be financed into eternity???

Why don’t you Neo-Con extremists want to pay for what you’ve created during these past 8 years???

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Or is America starting to see that Obama’s inexperience would put us all at risk.

No, America is just now starting to see what McBush’s so-called “experience” will really mean for the next for years, in that McBush will only give us the same old disastrous policies that we’ve suffered through for 8 years.

And 70% of America is ready to go forward into the new century, not back to the 20th century with McBush!

By rightytighty

August 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

France’s president call Obama “my buddy”!

I’d vote against him for that alone..

By hotlanta

August 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

If this economy is in the shaoe it is in because someone has experience then we really need a newborn to start all over. It was amazing to hear how Michelle talked about how Obama worked to help other people in THIS country when those who accuse him of bring UNPATRIOTIC only helps themselves and have the nerve to wear a FLAG PIN. Stop the madness please.

By Nikita

August 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

There is a time for everything. That is what I think Cynthia was really saying. Raise heck Hillary supporters about the injustice you feel. Do what you feel is neccessary to do and make sure that if there is some wrong that you do everything in your power to make it right. I am an Independent, female and Black, and NO I was not orignially supporting Obama. I did not support Hillary either. However, at this juncture, I DO understand that regardless of the fact that my candidate did not make it, I have a duty to vote for the best person for the job who is going to do it with all of the people in America in mind, not JUST the top 3% as it has been for the last 8 years under Bush Co. That is all that I am humbly asking of the Hillary supporters. Not that they not fight, not that they not voice their displeasure, not that they don’t speak up and fight for what they feel is right and fair. I want them to fight for that if that is what they feel is needed to make sure that whomever they feel wronged by will be aware and will play fair next time. However, Hillary supporters, please understand that the other option on the table is 4 years of basically Bush Co. version 2. PLEASE do not refuse to vote because your choice is no longer viable. Mine isn’t either. Just think about this: if McCain makes it in office Americans will NEVER stop going to WAR to make the WEALTHY more financially liquid. that thought makes me ill.

Look, those voting for Barack DO understand that he is NOT a messiah. He is NOT perfect. However, for me, Obama or McCain, those are my choices? Then Obama is an EASY choice to make. Please put your anger to the side. Think of the possible consequences of another 4 years of Bush Co., version 2 with McCain at the helm of the country. Scary, ain’t it?

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Hey, and did you know there’s a group out there called “Republicans For Obama”? Wow, how much more do you need to know about what a disaster the Repug Party is these days??? I also heard that Colin Powell is not even expected to GO to your convention next week — how much more do you need to know about how the Repugs are gonna lose in November?

By Genuine

August 26, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

I find it bewildering that anyone who supported Sen. Clinton’s policies can find anything appealing about Sen. McCain’s policies, given the drastic difference between the two - even if you look at the Iraq War issue alone. If it’s about the policies and issues, how could former Clinton supporters vote for McCain? So the question is, “Is this sheer resentment against Obama?” And then we must take it a step further and ask, “What has created this resentment?” If we think back to the primary campaign, it was Clinton who was constantly criticized for running a negative campaign. She even apologized for attacks made by her campaign. These are the facts. So, is it that he was overly negative towards Clinton? You have others who think the campaign was stolen from Clinton. How is Barack Obama to blame for our country’s political election process? He won the primary election by every measure. These are the facts. If people have a problem with the way the process went, they should be speaking out against the Electoral College process in the U.S. After all, the process was set forth by the forefather’s of this country. So let’s switch gears and say it’s the experience thing. If former Clinton supporters would rather vote for McCain because Obama lacks “experience,” that’s saying they don’t care what kind of experience the candidate has just as long as they have some experience. They don’t care if the experience would keep us at war and in an economic recession as long as they have experience. That sounds ludicrous, and I don’t believe that people actually believe this. So is it race? Are some of these folks just reluctant to say that the real issue is that they’re not comfortable voting for a Black man or that they feel resentment that a Black man won the candidacy over a white man? The sooner we start to ask ourselves some serious questions about our deep-rooted prejudices, beliefs, etc., the sooner we can heal this broken country and finally get rid of the elephant in the room. But then again, do we really want to get rid of the elephant in this country?

By whenthedustsettles

August 26, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Why are white people so threatened by Obama? Goes to show you their insecurities. The world is changing and you are no longer at the top of the food chain. You’re afraid of anyone who doesn’t look like you and think like you. Get over it, the bible says Satan will reign for 1000 years, times up!

By Dr. R

August 26, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Do the math. If Obama loses, Hillary can run in four years instead of eight. That said, do you think her loyalty is more to her own ambitions or to her party’s? And to be fair, if she’s out for No. 1, would that make her any different than any other politician out there?

By JR

August 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Indifferent:

Whether Laura Bush was drunk or not is debatable. Ted Kennedy leaving the scene of an accident and leaving a young woman to drown is not.

By RCH

August 26, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

If you would like to call John McCain George Bush III, then I think it’s only appropriate to call Obama, Jimmy Carter Jr.,and we saw what a debacle that presidency was!

By GeezGuys

August 26, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

I doubt many people are lying awake at night wondering “wow, what does Cynthia Tucker think of me?”

Ms. Tucker, your attitude makes you look like a whiny crybaby Obamabot. BTW, I didn’t hear you telling us politics was rough when your baby candidate was being picked on in the primaries. Calling Bill Clinton a racist was the most pathetic, sordid move I’ve seen in a while. But it got your guy the nomination, so who cares, right? Enjoy it while it lasts, calling 18 million voters “crybabies” won’t get your empty suit elected.

By Freedom

August 26, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Hey, By SAGE, I don’t think anyone gives a crap who you vote for—that’s what makes America great. Democrat or Republican—it’s your choice.

By Tweetie

August 26, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

The problem is this……those who support Hillary are liberal Democrats we get that. However, if they are truly liberal Democrats they will support Barack Obama, but it’s really about the color of the skin. I’m an independent caucasian woman who happens to be voting for Barack Obama, but there are people regardless of what they say….they’re not voting for Barack because he’s black. It is what it is……They would rather lose their houses, jobs, continue to live in the hills of the Appalachian mountains and be the rednecks that they are than to vote for someone that might help them to change for the better. They wouldn’t vote for Barack if he was to give every American a million dollars, it’s because he’s black and that’s the bottom line.

By Hillary Supporter

August 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

I already decided that I still vote “Write - in”. I will surely write Hillary Clinton in the ballot for this election in November.

By yeah baby

August 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

I am a McCain supporter but I really want Obama to win. That way in four years time when the country is worse off I can sit back and say…….

“I told you so.”

By Tweetie

August 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama for President!

By Dave

August 26, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Just for fun I would love to see Hilliary’s voters who are probably pro choice elect John McCain then he could appoint Pro life judges so they could overturn Roe V Wade. At least the we could blame women it is only fair they ultimately get to decide the issue this election. In a way if this happens Democrats may win the presidency for years to come trying to get Roe V Wade back in place. I may vote for McCain just to help it happen.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 26, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

My dear Ms. Tucker, after reading your blog entry identified on the AKC front page as, “Whiners, grow up” in light of the body of work from your tenure Atlanta, I offer only this, “Editor, heal thyself.”

By Bruce

August 26, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Hi Kathy:

(Quote) “The cold, hard, cruel political truth is that Obama will not win any of those RED states in November.”

Exactly. The RED STATE crossover vote did what it needed to do by killing off Hillary’s campaign. All those same voters will magically become Republicans again in November.

The RED states will stay red, and the swing states will become KEY to the election. Hillary was the strongest candidate in those states. To intentionally pass over her for VP suggests Obama is not planning to win, he is planning instead to split the party.

I was willing to meet Barak halfway. In doing so, I did expect he would meet Hillary’s supporters halfway by putting her on the ticket.

I had a dream. A dream of party unity. It was a dream in which real change was exemplified by having both the first black president and the first woman VP. It was a beautiful dream, tangible and real, almost within reach.

In this moment when we could have all come together, Barak killed my dream. I’m not sure I can forgive that.

By Over It

August 26, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

I’m not afraid of Obama’s skin. I’m afraid of his economic and energy policies which seem to be nothing but a long litany of tax hikes, massive spending increases and promising yet another 1.5% of our GNP to dictators and thugs via UN. (Is that how he’s expects to balance the budget?)

He’s either a naive fool trying to buy the world’s ‘respect’ or a scheming interloper. Take your pick, I’m not going for it, same as I didn’t vote for John Kerry or Al Gore either… both white, last I checked.

By Buck

August 26, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

If Democrats start a write-in campaign for Hillary, that’s gonna make an awful mess of those touch-screen voting machines.

By tcoach

August 26, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Who are any of you all to tell anyone who they should vote for. It is our right as Americans to vote for whoever we so choose for what ever reason we choose. Why acuse them of childish acts. Some maybe voting out of revenge yet I find it hard to believe things would be different if things were the other way around. Any of you trying to tell them how to vote is not for democracy you are just for your candidate. Which means you are as guilty of what you accuse them of.

By jc_atl

August 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

I totally agree. Hillary lost, get over it. Get with the team or go away. Anyone who supported Hillary and can cast a vote for McStain has no idea what they’re for.

McStain wrote the book on flip-flopping. The Democrats need to grow a spine or just accept that they don’t have the balls to get a candidate elected, from Kerry’s rolling over for the Swift Boating to allowing McStain’s attack dogs to attack Obama without a response in kind.

I can’t believe a real Democrat would EVER vote for 4 more years of the Bush disaster. F the president.

By Andy

August 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

wow there are a lot of undercover racist people out there. I bet over half of you are probably at work sitting in your cube next to a black person that you grin,smile and talk to everyday. But you get behind the wall of the internet and become an invisible bigot. :(

You type of people are the worst. I have more respect for the KKK and Aryan nation than you. At least they are not cowards and hide their bigotry. With them they let it be known where they stand on race.

By Freedom

August 26, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

It should be clear to ALL on this blog that all the “pretending to be Clinton supporters” are Republicans attempting to split the party. True Clinton supporters will support Obama. Further, if you buy into these pretenders and say Obama was to lose, so much animosity would be created from pro-Obama people that an old senile 76 man would easily win in 2012. Don’t believe them—we are united.

By dittohead

August 26, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

As a consertative, I have been reading Tuckers columns a long time & this is the first time I am in total agreement with her. HRC will start her 2012 campaign tonight. She will campaign four years criticizing president McCain & the liberal MSM will give her more press than the UK press gives Queen Elibabeth.

By HK

August 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

I am a 44 year old African American Man born and raised in Chicago. I am educated, well spoken, hard working MARRIED father of 4. I consider Michelle Obama a peer and relate to her and her husband very well. I grew up middle class in Chicago to professional parents, the true life version of a Cosby kid the fictional middle class African American family that Bill Cosby made America see on his successful television show. The black middle class is real but seems totally invisible if you look at the media of today’s society. In the media’s portrayal African Americans have to be entertainers or athletes to be successful or our males are all want to be thugs, tattooed up, or saggy pants nitwits with braids.

Based upon the blogs I’ve seen from various other publications as well as this one the average Caucasian American believes both or those perceptions. They are stereotypes just like the many others any one can make up about another race they have passing contact with but no sincere knowledge of.

Imagine about how ridiculous it would be if your race were lumped under the stereotype of Caucasian women are like the Lohans and Spears families or Real Housewives reality series and Caucasian males are like the trio in the mugs shots caught in Colorado under suspicion for plotting to kill Obama.

The term African American just gives me more of an identity since our ancestors identity was stolen from them. They were labeled the “N” word, colored or many other words used to make sure they were considered inferior. I an a proud American citizen whose ancestors blood sweat and tears helped build this nation despite the racist attitudes and Jim Crow laws of this country used to put us down. We have never been fully understood represented or given recognition for the vast accomplishments we have contributed to this great Nation of ours. The wounds of segregation and southern Jim Crow laws are less than a generation removed and definitely not healed

The audacity that Michelle’s speech had to be teleprompted for her and not sincere shows the ignorance of many. She is a Princeton graduate why can’t she deliver an eloquent self written speech! The talking heads will break her speech down and infer as much negativity they can dream up into it to “SCARE WHITEY”.

It amazes me how many people in this country can be lead around like sheep by those who make a living stirring up negative rhetoric in the media.

Many black folks are very church orientated, it reflects our upbringings from the past where the church was the only safe place you could congregate in mass, hear the local news, fellowship with your community and have your frustrations expressed and given up to the lord to forgive. Many follow their pastors blindly but give educated and sensible folks enough credit that if their pastor gave a fired up sermon it is filtered out as his opinions and not the gospel. We laugh it off or vehemently discuss it and see you next week. If it were a weekly hate mongering thing we’d definitively not return.

If you take any public speakers speeches out of context and sound bite them they could be spun anyway you want. Rev. Wright was good enough to be invited to the White House during Clinton’s administration and patriotic enough to volunteer to serve in 2 separate branches of the military starting in Viet Nam, but now he is a vilified as a hate mongering Pastor. The devil himself should be more revered.

Tell me how Cindy McCain can inherit a fortune form her father and not have the conscious to share any bit of that wealth with the siblings from his first family. Tell me how John McCain can cheat on his dying wife then leave her for the younger rich blonde. How far has the media buried those facts?

McCain and his wife are so out of touch with the reality of the common citizen do you really think he cares how you are going to pay your mortgage if your company just outsourced your job to India, and closed your factory. He has to check with his staff to see how much property he owns.

If Michelle were blond haired blue eyed giving that speech today it would be copywrtten for children’s textbooks next fall or ready to mount in the Smithsonian.

McCain and the Republicans will do their best to Scare America so they can bleed the rest of the wealth out of this country while the common citizens of every race shall suffer!

The job of President of the United States is simply to make decisions based upon the facts that are presented to him regularly by the professionals who are experts in those areas. Those decisions affect our country and the World. Why wouldn’t you want a well educated man who has worked his way up through life with the insight of people from all walks of society and compassion for those less fortunate making those decisions? Or would you prefer another mindless millionaire who inherited his money. Once McCain gets your vote he will forget you exist and continue to p** off the world with out of touch TV cowboy posturing putiing us into another war we cannot afford.

By Grace

August 26, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

As a black woman my parents use to tell me that white people will hate u if you are on welfare and they will hate you even more if you are educated, work hard & don’t ask the gov’t for anything. The Obmamas are proving that. Barack, Michelle and her brother are the American Dream and you all still hate them.

I would feel better if you all admit that you would NOT vote for a black man than to trash a couple simply for being everything that you are NOT.

By Conscious

August 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

The issue is not with Senator Clinton’s supporters, but with Obama’s inability to close the deal. They want OBAMA to speak directly to them and ask them for their support. Obama [himself and not surrogates] must make genuine and repeated efforts to court and earn the vote of Hillary supporters and white working class people. Just putting Jim Biden on his ticket is not enough.

The Obama people know that they are in trouble and they are building a case to blame Hillary and her supporters for his loss in November; instead of themselves for their failure to relate to her voters.

By Genuine

August 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Over It, we’re either going to pay for improvements in healthcare, the environment, etc. or we’re going to continue paying with high gas prices, unaffordable healthcare costs, loss of jobs… Either way, we’re going to have to pay. Why not pay for a better life? But a lot of times, people say “I don’t care about improving healthcare; I’m fine.” Yeah, not until illness hits them or their families. They say, “I have a job; I’m fine.” Yeah, until their company has to go through cutbacks, and they get laid off. These are things that can happen to anyone. But I guess the average person just doesn’t give a da** until something happens to them. No one has good intentions anymore. We can’t see the sky for the trees, and that’s why this country will continue to fall behind the rest of the world. We can’t see the bigger picture. It’s bigger than you and me.

By haha

August 26, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

wHERE WERE THESE SAME PEOPLE WHEN GW BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION? Hill Lost fair and square after a long bitter election season but just the fact that her supporters thought they were going to strong arm her in to the VP slot is a joke!! She lost she needs to stop crying and so do her supporters and if you love her soooo much help her pay off all that debt. You think she would have picked Obama if she would have won? Yea right!!!! He has the right to choose his running mate and not be bullied into doing so just because if you don’t they make you loose!!! WOW I’m loosing all faith in the electoral process if this is what it comes down to!! Were were all of these crying fools when Bush stole the election?

By Jim C.

August 26, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

I love hearing the typical cry baby democrats here with their little snipes. This is great entertainment at their expense as usual. What idiots and there are plenty of them in Inman Park, Midtown, Chandler, ect. Ha Ha Ha, enjoy the election!

By Genuine

August 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Dittohead, very well said.

By onefreeman

August 26, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

FYI - Republicans running scared.

The fact that they are Hillary Clinton’s #1 fans prove they are DESPERATE!

By onefreeman

August 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

FYI - Republicans running scared.

The fact that they are Hillary Clinton’s #1 fans proves they are DESPERATE!

By 411 Please

August 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many AAmericans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore.

Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:

  • He voted against banning partial birth abortion.

  • He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

  • Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.

  • In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.

  • Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.

  • Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.

  • His religious convictions are very murky.

  • He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

  • Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.

  • Opposed the Patriot Act.

  • First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.

  • Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.

  • Supports universal health-care.

  • Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.

  • Supports granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.

  • Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.

  • Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.

  • Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.

  • Wants to make the minimum wage a ‘living wage’.

  • Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.

  • Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.

  • Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.

  • He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.

  • He voted No on repealing the ‘Death’ Tax.

  • He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.

  • Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.

  • He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.

If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama’s and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride.