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Grow up, Hillary supporters

Diehard Hillary supporters — especially feminists and professional women — risk an image as whiners and cry-babies if they don’t stop complaining about Hillary’s defeat and the way they are allegedly being treated by the Obama camp.

Politics is a tough, mean game, and it’s not for the faint of heart. Take a look at John McCain. George Bush’s surrogates treated him in a way no honorable American deserves to be treated, going so far as to put out ugly rumors about his adopted Bangladeshi daughter.

But McCain understood the game. That’s why there’s video of him hugging Bush at the convention in 2004. If you can’t play the game that way — quickly getting over so-called mistreatment by your rivals — you don’t need to be in it. Hillary’s supporters should grow up.

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By Gram

August 26, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

I like seeing Dimocrats divided over the “snubbing” Hillary received from Obama. It is just that many more votes for McCain.

By Aaron

August 26, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Ms Obama is an idiot as is her husband who is only in consideration due to liberal white guilt and pansy political correctness. This election disgusts me

By Ted

August 26, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Way to inspire unity Cynthia. But keep it up - I’m sure there are lots of disenfranchised Hillary supporters who are looking at McCain, and liking what they are seeing.

The real question is - if Obama loses in November, will there be riots?

By Buck

August 26, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

John McCain is an honorable American? I thought he was a war-mongering, senile, filthy-rich neo-con! I’m so confused…

By Greg

August 26, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

The one thing that the supporters are totally ignoring is the dysfunctional champaign staff that she and Bill put together. Hillary is not bigger than the process..thats something that the supporters and Ms Clinton have a hard time coming to gripes with…..

By Peadawg

August 26, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Geeze..sounds like Cynthia is “hatin”(isn’t that what dems say these days) on Hillary.

By caveon

August 26, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Whiners and crybabies will not be the problem should Barack Hussein Obama not get elected! Those of Tucker’s tribe and ilk will take to the streets, and it won’t be pretty.

By Original Rick

August 26, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

We can’t talk about McCain that way: he spent time as a POW. Have respect, people.

Same with me: I used to be very overweight. I will not watch any show where a fat suit is used for comedic effect!

By Mr. R

August 26, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

John McCain, and his plastic face wife are old has beens. Where are the convalescent communities to claim another broke-down body for their quota?

By Cassandra

August 26, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Please stop blaming the ladies.

If Senator Obama is dragging in the polls, perhaps the place to look for problems is….in the Obama campaign. What is he doing wrong that he is failing to connect with average Americans?

Candidates stand or fall on their own two feet. The place to win this election is by convincing the general electorate, not by insulting and blaming a small percentage of Hillary Clinton’s supporters.

Focus on the big picture and chart the path to success in November - try to get all of America to support Senator Obama, and we will win. Focus on sounding petty and on hectoring Democratic women who originally supported Senator Clinton, and we will lose.

Let’s try to all grow up, shall we?

By Mr. R

August 26, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

John McCain…POW? coward!

By KER

August 26, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Well done Cynthia. This whole thing reminds me of the liberal idiots who can’t get over the Kerry/Edwards loss!!

By Original Rick

August 26, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

I can only think that the Hillary supporters who are thinking of McCain do not remember what the Ralph Nader supporters caused in 2000.

What we thought of the Nader voters for bringing in Bush, we will will think of you if you allow McCain to claim victory.

Are you that petty?

Someone, please tell me: what will your act serve. Do you think Hillary wants you to vote for McCain? Listen to her! Please!

By Michael H. Smith

August 26, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Did you ever dare think that these women may not agree on the issues with Mr. Obama?

By mae

August 26, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

The majority of Hillary fans supported her because of her political views. Those views are nearly identical to those of Barrack Obama. I can’t imagine any Clinton supporter who has even half a brain voting for McCain! That would give us at least four more years of the Bush fiasco. This is why I believe most of the “Democrats” who are protesting are really Republicans. I believe most online comments from supposed Clinton supporters who are threatening to vote for McCain are actually written by Republicans. They just want to stir up the Democrats, because they know that they can’t win without Democrats crossing over and voting for more of the same. According to these posts, these Clinton supporters want to use their vote — not to ensure the betterment of our country — but to protest and get revenge.

Revenge voting is not only childish, but highly irresponsible. This is something I would expect to see in Middle School among children who’s best friend lost, not by adults who are deciding the fate of their future and the future of their children! Stop throwing temper tantrums and look at the issues our country is facing and use your vote intelligently, not as a game of revenge. If these people had any maturity at all, they wouldn’t be threatening revenge voting in the first place. Revenge voting would not accomplish anything other than to hurt this country!

If these rabid protesters (who are mostly Republicans in disguise) cause McCain to win, I wish upon them all the continued suffering they will cause this nation: loved ones harmed by being sent to Iraq, gas and grocery prices too high to survive, long term illness and no health insurance resulting in home foreclosure, and job loss to a third world country.

By Chaz

August 26, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Geez, take all the ‘whiners and crybabies’ off the floor at the DNC and there’d be no one left!

By Bruce

August 26, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Say what? “If you can’t play the game that way — quickly getting over so-called mistreatment by your rivals — you don’t need to be in it. Hillary’s supporters should grow up.”

Really? This isn’t a game to me. I don’t play games with my vote. This is dead serious. Intentionally insulting 18 million voters is not a game.

Is Barak trying to split this party? Is that why he chose to snub Hillary and her supporters? Is he trying to split women from men? Is he trying to split blacks and whites? Because I gotta tell you, it sure looks like that is his ONE mission. IE: Help Reps win by making damn sure that the other side loses. You can easily do that by dismissing and insulting half the party.

All Barak had to do to unite this party was take Hillary as VP. Politically speaking, it would have been a small sacrifice and a reasonable compromise. I was willing to meet Barak halfway. In doing so, I did expect he would meet Hillary’s supporters halfway by putting her on the ticket. Then we could all unite and together set our sights on improving this government. At least that was my dream. There was no insult in my dream. There was no arrogant dismisssal of my interests. There was no 3:00 AM text message announcing Biden as the VP in my dream.

I had a dream. In this moment when we all could have come together, Barak killed my dream. I’m not sure I can forgive that.

By Tigers03

August 26, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Mr. R, if you are calling a person who was a POW to protect you and your family a coward, I ask you to please get the hell out of this country.

By Older Reporter

August 26, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

McCain plagiarized Solzhenitsyn! That story about a vietnamese prison guard drawing a cross in the dirt was lifted from the Gulag!

What a dope, honestly. What a clod.

McCain 08: Pick a book you haven’t read.

By ifgli

August 26, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

listen up - currently white america is sitting back smiling and offering no resitance or arugument to black america as black america is already celebrating obama’s election (with the exception of the talking heads on tv and radio). on election day, white america will speak with their vote and await the results. don’t trust any polls as white america is telling the pollster what he wants to hear. the 18-24 group don’t go vote. tax paying workers vote more conservative, the elderly don’t trust black america to run things and will vote for a white prez regardless of party. you do the math.

By Moe25

August 26, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

How could you say that they don’t see eye to eye on the issues when Senator Obama and Senator Clinton had very similar platforms?

By Dan

August 26, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

That would be great if they grow up, providing the old axiom of societal perspectives hold true. “If you are young and conservative, you have no heart. If you are old and liberal, you have no sense. So please grow up, all dems not just Hil lovers. though it is quite difficult to associate Hil supporters, because they like Obama supporters completely ignore the records and history of the candidates in favor of championing a symbol. All bluster and rhetoric aside, how else would the most far left of a left leaning pary even be considered a candidate? He would not have even been in the primary race had he not been black.

By CJ

August 26, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Grow up?? Hillary attracted a number of Republican voters because of her experience and her message. In contrast, Obama has attracted few, if any voters. Just look at the margins in the polls! It’s a dead heat again.

We need a candidate on the Democrat side that attracts Republicans. As the election in 2000 Bush vs. Gore demostrated, we cannot win with Democrat voters alone. We must attract a number of Republicans to get the majority vote. Notice how many Clinton supporters are jumping ship - 20% or more. If the situation was reversed, hardly any (if any) Obama supporters would go Republican.

Obama is the less strategic candidate. He would have made a fine VP for Hillary and would have been a great Presidential nominee in 2016.

By Jan

August 26, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

I will support Obama mainly because he is preferable to McCain. I believe that he should have had the wisdom to wait until his experience caught up with his popularity to run. I hope that he will grow into it but I really feel we should have had Clinton’s knowledge and experience at this critical time in history. I think that Obama’s supporters did to a certain extent get stars in their eyes rather than assessing the current situation and making the objective and rational choice.

By RCH

August 26, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Hillary will never admit defeat.Just yesterday, suitwas filed against Obama and the DNC that Obama is not a U.S citizen. (I have heard this claim before). This suit was a product of a Hillary supporter,Philip Berg,a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit—just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver—for the health of the Democratic Party. God help us if this is true!

By steve

August 26, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

How are Hillary’s supporters any different from Obama supporters who want to throw the race card any time he is challenged? They also appear to be nothing but whiners and crybabies. Maybe the Hillary supporters actually have an issue with Obama.
What has the democratic party done at all in the last 8 years other than whine and cry…oh yeah, almost forgot…$4/gallon gas. Thanks for that.

By fred

August 26, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

The arguments against Obama choosing Clinton were evident from the start: Her campaign, rife with internal struggles, bore no resemblance to his tightly run operation; the two had little personal chemistry; and hard feelings lingered after what had been a bruising primary - mostly sleazy and negative on her part. She was so confident that she would win the nomination that she burned the bridges with Obama.

By Greg

August 26, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

If Mary Jo were alive how would she have liked the “uncle Teddy” speach?

By Rod

August 26, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

If Hillary supporters help get McCain elected in 2008. I will be doing the same in 2012(Obama supporter). Independent if Obama loses and done with a Democratic party that can’t even get a man elected in the worst economy in decades, an unwanted war, foreclosure rates that are unheard of and McSame as an option. This race shouldn’t even be close but it is. Why? Because of reasons that show america is still very divided. I bet some Democrats would still vote for McCain if McCain was the bank and McCain was the Sheriff telling them their home was just foreclosed on. But it’s ok in 2028 I will vote for Brent Rashad Fernandez(multi ethnic race candidate)

By Somer

August 26, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

I have never in history seen a candidate & his wife have to explain why they are successful & educated=

As for the Michelle haters, I know it really bothers you that she left a $275k/yr job to support her husband. I betcha Aaron & the rest of the Klan don’t have the creditials to even apply for Michelle’s position or the assistant to that position. Do get mad at the Obamas because they are living the American dream. They were accepted into Ivy league schools on their grades not cause of daddy’s connections (BUSH). Nothing good comes from jealousy.

By MrLiberty

August 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Tigers03

The last time a soldier acted specifically to defend this country was the war of 1812. Everything since then has been a foreign war of choice (spanish-american, Civil, vietnam, korea, grenada, panama, gulf war, Iraq, Afghanistan) or provocation (WWI, WW2, Iran?).

McCain dropped bombs on innocents during an unprovoked and unnecessary war. For that he was imprisoned by the country he was bombing. That does not qualify him for the presidency, and his attitudes about war are one of many specific reasons why he should never be president.

Unfortunately Mr. Obama is no better in his own special “divine” way.

Support None of the Above. An option who’s time has definitely come.

By Calvin G. sims, Sr.

August 26, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Hillary took for granted that she would win the primary election and therefore did not mount an effective campaign. Obama did not beat Hillary so much as Hillary did not win.

Now, for her supporters to behave so divisively and even consider voting for John McCain is the height of stupid. McCain is no friend of women and anything he does now to show that way is just that, show. He is pro-life and he can do serious damage to Roe v Wade to say nothing of the havoc he can wreck on the supreme court.

One thing that is very telling in this situation: If Clinton supporters love Hillary so much, why aren’t they helping to retire her campaign debt?

McCain continues to attack Obama on personal issues because they know that they can not win on policy issues - George Bush’s policy. The experience argument is overrated…just look at the mess that has been made of our country by people with experience.

Finally, I am a Viet Nam vet, a Marine, so I have full respect for the sacrifices that John McCain has made for our country. But the truth is, he was shot down and captured. He failed in his mission, his sacrifice not withstanding. His father and grand father were admirals. He would have been ostracized should he have taken advantage of the early release offered to him. His career in the military and in politics would have been toast. We know this was a consideration at the time because witnesses say that he talked, even then, about being president.

I did not mean this post to criticize McCain, I just want all of these women who are whining about what happened to Hillary to think about what a McCain presidency means to them, 4 more years of the same…at best!

By Bruce

August 26, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Note to CJ:

Quote: “Hillary attracted a number of Republican voters because of her experience and her message. In contrast, Obama has attracted few, if any voters.”

That’s not true. Obama won almost every single historically red (Republican) state. He won all of the solid red south, and he took almost all of the historically red midwestern states.

In spite of what Rush Limbaugh may have told you, Obama took FAR MORE Republican votes than Hillary did.

The Republican crossover vote got Obama nominated. The real intent of those voters was to kill off Hillary, which they did. But… if Reps really supported the issues that Obama claims to represent, they already had a candidate in their own party to vote for. His name was Ron Paul. But -and this is important- voting for Ron Paul would not kill off Hillary’s campaign. Only crossing over and voting for Obama would do that.

That’s cold, hard, cruel political logic.

By JW

August 26, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

If this election were about Black vs white, Hillary would be the nominee. She lost and now her supporters want to to blame it on the press, Blacks, and anyone else available. She said it best when she stated that if you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

BTW, Blacks have been voting for whites forever and no one had a problem with that, but if they choose to vote for a Black person they are blinded, wrong thinking, and racists. What some of you bloggers need to ask yourself is, “Under what circumstances would you vote for a Black person?” I suspect that many of you have NEVER done so.

By Ed

August 26, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Just like the democrats to drag the half dead murdering Ted Kennedy to the podium for sympathy. Then they bathed, cleaned and polished Obamas mean bitter half and tried to make the rattlesnake in higheels look like a First Lady. It didn’t work. Just like picking old hairplug Biden, that didn’t work either. Obama is dead even in the latest polls with McCain when Obama should hold a double digit lead. I hope Hillary sticks it to the bloated Kennedy, Obama and his anti-Amercian never will be fit to be First Lady wife and screws the whole thing up for them. You all seem so impressed with Mrs. Obama’s lofty salary she had but you hate on Mrs. McCain because she is from money. Where the hell is the logiic there? Oh..stupid me, I expected logic from people who are dumb enough to back the idiot Obama. I foregt your gray matter is yesterdays underwear and not in your skull. My bad.

By Michael H. Smith

August 26, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

What about those rabid independents that supported Hillary; who are not card carrying party hacks?

I’m a conservative who will not vote for either McCain or Obama because I disagree with both of them on the issues. So, I need to grow up, simply throw my principles away to support things I staunchly disagree with that McCain and Obama seem to hold dearly in order to appear all grown up?

That may be grown up in the eyes of many but it is very un-American to me. I’m sure many others feel exactly the same way. We owe no one our vote.

Oh and guess what, neither party can win without the votes of independents.

By Tucker's Double Standards

August 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Didn’t Tucker whine and cry about how Vick was being treated despite the fact that he pled guilty to a heinous crime and it was time for the punishment phase? Also, I thought the Black Journal Constitution was laying off people. Apparently it wasn’t Tucker.

By Indifferent

August 26, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Hey Ed - What is your problem with Ted Kennedy? Remember Laura Bush killed someone in a drunk driving accident too and her family got it all hushed up.

By Stephanie

August 26, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Or perhaps my party should show some respect for my vote by not trashing my candidate over and over. Be nice to her. Be nice to me. It is very simple. Keep trashing her, trashing me, and acting like you are entitled to my vote and watch where it goes.

By Mike

August 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Is Tucker’s partisan hatred so intense that she can’t write a single article without partisan attacks?

We get it, Cynthia. You really hate Republicans and you think they are bad people. Can you talk about any subject without telling us about it?

By SAG

August 26, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

I am beginning to question any and all of Obama’s accomplishments. It’s obvious he thinks Hillary should be on the pavement 24/7 stumping for him. Hillary can’t do enough for Obama, according to Obama. Was he this way in all the toney schools he claims to have attended? Did his buddies take all his test for him? Has he done anything on his own ? The man has all of Hollywood and a ton of money in his pockets and he can’t get past McCain in the polls. It’s glaringly obvious that Obama is in trouble. Big trouble. McCain 2008- it’s the only way to vote. This is coming from a lifetime Democrat and a Hillary supporter who will jump the fence, this ONE time and ONE time only. I can never vote for Obama, never.

By Patricia

August 26, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

I am a registered Independent who supported Clinton in the primary. It is not whining to say that she dealt with a hostile press, a lot of sexism, and sabotage from her own party (witness MI and FL). Arguably, she won more votes than Obama.

It isn’t sour grapes to say I’m voting for McCain. I simply believe he is the better qualified candidate. Obama, to date, has done nothing with his life to inspire my confidence. One term in the Senate and helping to pass one bill while there doesn’t do it for me.

By Indifferent

August 26, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

That’s right Ed…and McCain wants to connect with middle class American’s and he cannot even recall how many damn houses he owns. That should bring in the middle class unemployed vote. Strong candidate you have there….clean your own house before condemning others.

By RealityKing

August 26, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Grow up, Hillary supporters!? This a joke, right!!??

I mean, it was Obama’s political GodFather hurling the childish racial slurs after the convension lastnight. So.., evidently, unity isn’t being achieved in the DNC because the entire party is still having race issues. How shallow we really are.. Do you need a bigger rock to hit you in the head?

Your not going to be able to blame an Obama lose on America’s tolerance level if the DNC can’t even unify. You see.., there is no racial prejudice in voting against a liberal tax and spend ideology.

By Copyleft

August 26, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

The “Hilary voters who will switch to McCain” do not exist, folks. It’s a fantasy the far right cooked up in the desperate hope that something, ANYTHING, can stop President Obama.

They’ve gone so far as to post on blogs and forums as “Former Democrat”, feigning outrage at Hillary’s “snub” and swearing to vote for McCain instead.

This, of course, is nonsense. Another smokescreen cooked up by the far-right smoke-and-mirrors machine. Hillary’s supporters want a liberal President; McCain obviously does not qualify. Some pouters might sit out the election, but the’re not going to cross over to vote for a Republican who opposes everything they stand for and care about.

Don’t be fooled, folks. The hype about “angry Hillary crossovers” is another right-wing fantasy, like the alleged “whitey” surprise videotape, the “secret Muslim” charge, and the “not an American citizen” sham. The right is desperate because they know they’re losing, and they have NOTHING to work with.

By Randall

August 26, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Stephanie: You sound very ignorant. Hillary lost. I’ve never seen so many people talking about “respect and nice” in politics. If Hillary were a man would you say these things about nice and trash? I think not. Go ahead and vote for McCain and when your job (even white collar jobs are being shipped overseas—ask Coke) and you lose your home and can’t feed the kids or educate them while McCain wears $550 shoes and lives in one of his 7 homes…. whatever. Grow up please this election is too important. Hillary ran a bad campaign and America is tired of politics as usual.

By jojo

August 26, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Way to go, Cynthia! They’re all whining and crying!

By km

August 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

for you hillary supporters who are going to mccain, consider this:

there are many elderly supreme court justices who may retire soon. do you want a conservative president appointing them? if so, vote mccain and say bye bye to roe v wade and a slew of other socially liberal policies for decades to come.

otherwise, vote obama, who’s policies and views are very close to those that hillary espouses

vote on the issues please!

By Reg

August 26, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Aaron,Ted et al…….please continue spewing hate and dissention it’s sad to think that if we were talking about a white JFK clone this wouldn’t be an issue. Based on the way the country is going are your really better off now than you were 8 years ago….be honest with yourself.

By Kathy

August 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Hey Bruce

The cold, hard, cruel political truth is that Obama will not in any of those RED states in November. It will as in the past few elections come down to the “swing” states in which Hillary did much better. Unless he can win over those states Democrats are in BIG trouble and picking Joe Biden for VP didn’t help his cause.

By hotlanta

August 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

It is just amazing how Hiliary supporters want her in there because she is white and female. But AA stand accused of voting for Obama because he is black/male. Doesn’t this seem racist to you. She has been proven to be a liar. Yeah she is still dodging enemy fire. Her own staff didn’t have health insurance but she tells us she can get it for everyone. I don’t blame Omama she will be texting Bill every 5 minutes about what he is doing.

By hotlanta

August 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

It is just amazing how Hiliary supporters want her in there because she is white and female. But AA stand accused of voting for Obama because he is black/male. Doesn’t this seem racist to you. She has been proven to be a liar. Yeah she is still dodging enemy fire. Her own staff didn’t have health insurance but she tells us she can get it for everyone. I don’t blame Omama she will be texting Bill every 5 minutes about what he is doing.

By Rod

August 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

From Registered Democrat. If McCain wins I’m Independent. I will help the ones supporting him now keep him in office in 2012. What’s good for the Clinton Democrats now is good for the Obama Democrats in 2012. Blacks have no problem voting a straight democrat ticket for the most part. It’s time blacks wake up and do like everyone else get mad and vote for or against someone. Agenda be damned. If lessons are taught to Obama and his supporter(I’m one) this year I plan on teaching the same lesson in 2012 to Clinton supporters and becoming Independent. I want the Swing vote party to decide elections if this one doesn’t go the way it should with Obama winning period.

By Kevin

August 26, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

I’m glad to see some things don’t change…I still don’t like Ms. Tucker. Imagine how she would be whining if Mr. Obama would have lost!

By Somer

August 26, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

With all the negative statements about Michelle remember that Cindy McCain is nothing but a mistress. With all the money and connections that Cindy had in her 20’s, the best mate that she could find is an old wrinkled up man that was already married to someone else. It makes you wonder why her rich family couldn’t even unload her off to the son of one of their rich country club friends. If Barack & John marriages were switched, Michelle would be called every whorish azz name ever written. The GOP would have Baracks 1st wife on a media tour… Oh, he left me when I got sick and fat!.

By Charles W.

August 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

If you have been a lifelong Democrat and you vote for McCain you are a traitor. Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton share very similar principles and plans to get our country back on track. How could you say McCain is more qualified when you were going to vote for Hilary. You will regret it when McCain changes his stripes and puts conservative justices on the Supreme Court who will work to reverse Roe V. Wade. McCain has been clear that is what he will do. He will continue the tax cuts that have completely wiped out the surpluses the Clinton Administration built.

Are you really that bitter that you would vote for more of the same. Do you see what condition our country is in? Do you care? If you claim to care about this country you will vote for Obama because you CLAIM you were voting for Hilary because of her plans for the country and not just because she was a woman.

Oh, and I believe Barack Obama was ahead double digits in the polls leading up the New Hampshire primary and lost big. If you trust those polls then you are truly delusional. See Tom Bradley and the Bradley Effect in CA.

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama went out on the campaign trail and played by the rules that all the Dems had agreed to follow. And then the Clintons started losing some of those “inevitable” voters to the guy who organized his followers and ran a clean, mean campaign machine. What did the Clintons do, but whine that the caucus states should not count and that the illegal votes in Michigan and Florida should count.

I’m guessing there’s maybe 2 or 3 very vocal “PUMA” supporters who are just trying to get themselves on TV with their griping. Why not follow Hillary’s lead and face the facts about what’s ahead if you vote out of spite for 4 more years of Bush’s policies, and quit yer b!tchin’ all because your 1st choice did not ultimately win the primary race.

By RealityKing

August 26, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Why can’t Obama close the deal? Are these non-existent Hillary crossovers also dubiously polling for McCain in swing states?? Or is America starting to see that Obama’s inexperience would put us all at risk.

McCain will put America first. We know that for sure..

By DeDe

August 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Hey did you know there is group out there called “Hillary supporters for McCain”? Way to go. They have the goods on Obama. The simple fact is….. He just is not experienced enough to run this Country. I am afraid he will become a patsy and others will be running the Country behind him. Go with McCain, 4 years….

By The Truth

August 26, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Hey Cynthia,

Stop whining? Isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black. You have been whining your entire editorial career! This is hilarious!

By Older Reporter

August 26, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

McCain plagiarized Solzhenitsyn! McCain first embellished his narrative with a story identical to a passage from the Gulag (where a prison guard draws a cross in the sand) during his 2000 campaign.

Why didn’t McCain ever mention it before then?

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

You see.., there is no racial prejudice in voting against a liberal tax and spend ideology.

UnReality @ 1:44 — but I guess we can conclude you prefer borrow and spend ideology instead? How childish and selfish you are. Does that make you feel better, to say it’s all about the tax-n-spend, but you have no problems with your Party continuing to bankrupt this great country of ours, all in the name of your big corporate looters and BIG WARS that have to be financed into eternity???

Why don’t you Neo-Con extremists want to pay for what you’ve created during these past 8 years???

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Or is America starting to see that Obama’s inexperience would put us all at risk.

No, America is just now starting to see what McBush’s so-called “experience” will really mean for the next for years, in that McBush will only give us the same old disastrous policies that we’ve suffered through for 8 years.

And 70% of America is ready to go forward into the new century, not back to the 20th century with McBush!

By rightytighty

August 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

France’s president call Obama “my buddy”!

I’d vote against him for that alone..

By hotlanta

August 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

If this economy is in the shaoe it is in because someone has experience then we really need a newborn to start all over. It was amazing to hear how Michelle talked about how Obama worked to help other people in THIS country when those who accuse him of bring UNPATRIOTIC only helps themselves and have the nerve to wear a FLAG PIN. Stop the madness please.

By Nikita

August 26, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

There is a time for everything. That is what I think Cynthia was really saying. Raise heck Hillary supporters about the injustice you feel. Do what you feel is neccessary to do and make sure that if there is some wrong that you do everything in your power to make it right. I am an Independent, female and Black, and NO I was not orignially supporting Obama. I did not support Hillary either. However, at this juncture, I DO understand that regardless of the fact that my candidate did not make it, I have a duty to vote for the best person for the job who is going to do it with all of the people in America in mind, not JUST the top 3% as it has been for the last 8 years under Bush Co. That is all that I am humbly asking of the Hillary supporters. Not that they not fight, not that they not voice their displeasure, not that they don’t speak up and fight for what they feel is right and fair. I want them to fight for that if that is what they feel is needed to make sure that whomever they feel wronged by will be aware and will play fair next time. However, Hillary supporters, please understand that the other option on the table is 4 years of basically Bush Co. version 2. PLEASE do not refuse to vote because your choice is no longer viable. Mine isn’t either. Just think about this: if McCain makes it in office Americans will NEVER stop going to WAR to make the WEALTHY more financially liquid. that thought makes me ill.

Look, those voting for Barack DO understand that he is NOT a messiah. He is NOT perfect. However, for me, Obama or McCain, those are my choices? Then Obama is an EASY choice to make. Please put your anger to the side. Think of the possible consequences of another 4 years of Bush Co., version 2 with McCain at the helm of the country. Scary, ain’t it?

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Hey, and did you know there’s a group out there called “Republicans For Obama”? Wow, how much more do you need to know about what a disaster the Repug Party is these days??? I also heard that Colin Powell is not even expected to GO to your convention next week — how much more do you need to know about how the Repugs are gonna lose in November?

By Genuine

August 26, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

I find it bewildering that anyone who supported Sen. Clinton’s policies can find anything appealing about Sen. McCain’s policies, given the drastic difference between the two - even if you look at the Iraq War issue alone. If it’s about the policies and issues, how could former Clinton supporters vote for McCain? So the question is, “Is this sheer resentment against Obama?” And then we must take it a step further and ask, “What has created this resentment?” If we think back to the primary campaign, it was Clinton who was constantly criticized for running a negative campaign. She even apologized for attacks made by her campaign. These are the facts. So, is it that he was overly negative towards Clinton? You have others who think the campaign was stolen from Clinton. How is Barack Obama to blame for our country’s political election process? He won the primary election by every measure. These are the facts. If people have a problem with the way the process went, they should be speaking out against the Electoral College process in the U.S. After all, the process was set forth by the forefather’s of this country. So let’s switch gears and say it’s the experience thing. If former Clinton supporters would rather vote for McCain because Obama lacks “experience,” that’s saying they don’t care what kind of experience the candidate has just as long as they have some experience. They don’t care if the experience would keep us at war and in an economic recession as long as they have experience. That sounds ludicrous, and I don’t believe that people actually believe this. So is it race? Are some of these folks just reluctant to say that the real issue is that they’re not comfortable voting for a Black man or that they feel resentment that a Black man won the candidacy over a white man? The sooner we start to ask ourselves some serious questions about our deep-rooted prejudices, beliefs, etc., the sooner we can heal this broken country and finally get rid of the elephant in the room. But then again, do we really want to get rid of the elephant in this country?

By whenthedustsettles

August 26, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Why are white people so threatened by Obama? Goes to show you their insecurities. The world is changing and you are no longer at the top of the food chain. You’re afraid of anyone who doesn’t look like you and think like you. Get over it, the bible says Satan will reign for 1000 years, times up!

By Dr. R

August 26, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Do the math. If Obama loses, Hillary can run in four years instead of eight. That said, do you think her loyalty is more to her own ambitions or to her party’s? And to be fair, if she’s out for No. 1, would that make her any different than any other politician out there?

By JR

August 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Indifferent:

Whether Laura Bush was drunk or not is debatable. Ted Kennedy leaving the scene of an accident and leaving a young woman to drown is not.

By RCH

August 26, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

If you would like to call John McCain George Bush III, then I think it’s only appropriate to call Obama, Jimmy Carter Jr.,and we saw what a debacle that presidency was!

By GeezGuys

August 26, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

I doubt many people are lying awake at night wondering “wow, what does Cynthia Tucker think of me?”

Ms. Tucker, your attitude makes you look like a whiny crybaby Obamabot. BTW, I didn’t hear you telling us politics was rough when your baby candidate was being picked on in the primaries. Calling Bill Clinton a racist was the most pathetic, sordid move I’ve seen in a while. But it got your guy the nomination, so who cares, right? Enjoy it while it lasts, calling 18 million voters “crybabies” won’t get your empty suit elected.

By Freedom

August 26, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Hey, By SAGE, I don’t think anyone gives a crap who you vote for—that’s what makes America great. Democrat or Republican—it’s your choice.

By Tweetie

August 26, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

The problem is this……those who support Hillary are liberal Democrats we get that. However, if they are truly liberal Democrats they will support Barack Obama, but it’s really about the color of the skin. I’m an independent caucasian woman who happens to be voting for Barack Obama, but there are people regardless of what they say….they’re not voting for Barack because he’s black. It is what it is……They would rather lose their houses, jobs, continue to live in the hills of the Appalachian mountains and be the rednecks that they are than to vote for someone that might help them to change for the better. They wouldn’t vote for Barack if he was to give every American a million dollars, it’s because he’s black and that’s the bottom line.

By Hillary Supporter

August 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

I already decided that I still vote “Write - in”. I will surely write Hillary Clinton in the ballot for this election in November.

By yeah baby

August 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

I am a McCain supporter but I really want Obama to win. That way in four years time when the country is worse off I can sit back and say…….

“I told you so.”

By Tweetie

August 26, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama for President!

By Dave

August 26, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

Just for fun I would love to see Hilliary’s voters who are probably pro choice elect John McCain then he could appoint Pro life judges so they could overturn Roe V Wade. At least the we could blame women it is only fair they ultimately get to decide the issue this election. In a way if this happens Democrats may win the presidency for years to come trying to get Roe V Wade back in place. I may vote for McCain just to help it happen.

By Wyld Byll Hyltnyr

August 26, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

My dear Ms. Tucker, after reading your blog entry identified on the AKC front page as, “Whiners, grow up” in light of the body of work from your tenure Atlanta, I offer only this, “Editor, heal thyself.”

By Bruce

August 26, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Hi Kathy:

(Quote) “The cold, hard, cruel political truth is that Obama will not win any of those RED states in November.”

Exactly. The RED STATE crossover vote did what it needed to do by killing off Hillary’s campaign. All those same voters will magically become Republicans again in November.

The RED states will stay red, and the swing states will become KEY to the election. Hillary was the strongest candidate in those states. To intentionally pass over her for VP suggests Obama is not planning to win, he is planning instead to split the party.

I was willing to meet Barak halfway. In doing so, I did expect he would meet Hillary’s supporters halfway by putting her on the ticket.

I had a dream. A dream of party unity. It was a dream in which real change was exemplified by having both the first black president and the first woman VP. It was a beautiful dream, tangible and real, almost within reach.

In this moment when we could have all come together, Barak killed my dream. I’m not sure I can forgive that.

By Over It

August 26, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

I’m not afraid of Obama’s skin. I’m afraid of his economic and energy policies which seem to be nothing but a long litany of tax hikes, massive spending increases and promising yet another 1.5% of our GNP to dictators and thugs via UN. (Is that how he’s expects to balance the budget?)

He’s either a naive fool trying to buy the world’s ‘respect’ or a scheming interloper. Take your pick, I’m not going for it, same as I didn’t vote for John Kerry or Al Gore either… both white, last I checked.

By Buck

August 26, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

If Democrats start a write-in campaign for Hillary, that’s gonna make an awful mess of those touch-screen voting machines.

By tcoach

August 26, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Who are any of you all to tell anyone who they should vote for. It is our right as Americans to vote for whoever we so choose for what ever reason we choose. Why acuse them of childish acts. Some maybe voting out of revenge yet I find it hard to believe things would be different if things were the other way around. Any of you trying to tell them how to vote is not for democracy you are just for your candidate. Which means you are as guilty of what you accuse them of.

By jc_atl

August 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

I totally agree. Hillary lost, get over it. Get with the team or go away. Anyone who supported Hillary and can cast a vote for McStain has no idea what they’re for.

McStain wrote the book on flip-flopping. The Democrats need to grow a spine or just accept that they don’t have the balls to get a candidate elected, from Kerry’s rolling over for the Swift Boating to allowing McStain’s attack dogs to attack Obama without a response in kind.

I can’t believe a real Democrat would EVER vote for 4 more years of the Bush disaster. F the president.

By Andy

August 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

wow there are a lot of undercover racist people out there. I bet over half of you are probably at work sitting in your cube next to a black person that you grin,smile and talk to everyday. But you get behind the wall of the internet and become an invisible bigot. :(

You type of people are the worst. I have more respect for the KKK and Aryan nation than you. At least they are not cowards and hide their bigotry. With them they let it be known where they stand on race.

By Freedom

August 26, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

It should be clear to ALL on this blog that all the “pretending to be Clinton supporters” are Republicans attempting to split the party. True Clinton supporters will support Obama. Further, if you buy into these pretenders and say Obama was to lose, so much animosity would be created from pro-Obama people that an old senile 76 man would easily win in 2012. Don’t believe them—we are united.

By dittohead

August 26, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

As a consertative, I have been reading Tuckers columns a long time & this is the first time I am in total agreement with her. HRC will start her 2012 campaign tonight. She will campaign four years criticizing president McCain & the liberal MSM will give her more press than the UK press gives Queen Elibabeth.

By HK

August 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

I am a 44 year old African American Man born and raised in Chicago. I am educated, well spoken, hard working MARRIED father of 4. I consider Michelle Obama a peer and relate to her and her husband very well. I grew up middle class in Chicago to professional parents, the true life version of a Cosby kid the fictional middle class African American family that Bill Cosby made America see on his successful television show. The black middle class is real but seems totally invisible if you look at the media of today’s society. In the media’s portrayal African Americans have to be entertainers or athletes to be successful or our males are all want to be thugs, tattooed up, or saggy pants nitwits with braids.

Based upon the blogs I’ve seen from various other publications as well as this one the average Caucasian American believes both or those perceptions. They are stereotypes just like the many others any one can make up about another race they have passing contact with but no sincere knowledge of.

Imagine about how ridiculous it would be if your race were lumped under the stereotype of Caucasian women are like the Lohans and Spears families or Real Housewives reality series and Caucasian males are like the trio in the mugs shots caught in Colorado under suspicion for plotting to kill Obama.

The term African American just gives me more of an identity since our ancestors identity was stolen from them. They were labeled the “N” word, colored or many other words used to make sure they were considered inferior. I an a proud American citizen whose ancestors blood sweat and tears helped build this nation despite the racist attitudes and Jim Crow laws of this country used to put us down. We have never been fully understood represented or given recognition for the vast accomplishments we have contributed to this great Nation of ours. The wounds of segregation and southern Jim Crow laws are less than a generation removed and definitely not healed

The audacity that Michelle’s speech had to be teleprompted for her and not sincere shows the ignorance of many. She is a Princeton graduate why can’t she deliver an eloquent self written speech! The talking heads will break her speech down and infer as much negativity they can dream up into it to “SCARE WHITEY”.

It amazes me how many people in this country can be lead around like sheep by those who make a living stirring up negative rhetoric in the media.

Many black folks are very church orientated, it reflects our upbringings from the past where the church was the only safe place you could congregate in mass, hear the local news, fellowship with your community and have your frustrations expressed and given up to the lord to forgive. Many follow their pastors blindly but give educated and sensible folks enough credit that if their pastor gave a fired up sermon it is filtered out as his opinions and not the gospel. We laugh it off or vehemently discuss it and see you next week. If it were a weekly hate mongering thing we’d definitively not return.

If you take any public speakers speeches out of context and sound bite them they could be spun anyway you want. Rev. Wright was good enough to be invited to the White House during Clinton’s administration and patriotic enough to volunteer to serve in 2 separate branches of the military starting in Viet Nam, but now he is a vilified as a hate mongering Pastor. The devil himself should be more revered.

Tell me how Cindy McCain can inherit a fortune form her father and not have the conscious to share any bit of that wealth with the siblings from his first family. Tell me how John McCain can cheat on his dying wife then leave her for the younger rich blonde. How far has the media buried those facts?

McCain and his wife are so out of touch with the reality of the common citizen do you really think he cares how you are going to pay your mortgage if your company just outsourced your job to India, and closed your factory. He has to check with his staff to see how much property he owns.

If Michelle were blond haired blue eyed giving that speech today it would be copywrtten for children’s textbooks next fall or ready to mount in the Smithsonian.

McCain and the Republicans will do their best to Scare America so they can bleed the rest of the wealth out of this country while the common citizens of every race shall suffer!

The job of President of the United States is simply to make decisions based upon the facts that are presented to him regularly by the professionals who are experts in those areas. Those decisions affect our country and the World. Why wouldn’t you want a well educated man who has worked his way up through life with the insight of people from all walks of society and compassion for those less fortunate making those decisions? Or would you prefer another mindless millionaire who inherited his money. Once McCain gets your vote he will forget you exist and continue to p** off the world with out of touch TV cowboy posturing putiing us into another war we cannot afford.

By Grace

August 26, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

As a black woman my parents use to tell me that white people will hate u if you are on welfare and they will hate you even more if you are educated, work hard & don’t ask the gov’t for anything. The Obmamas are proving that. Barack, Michelle and her brother are the American Dream and you all still hate them.

I would feel better if you all admit that you would NOT vote for a black man than to trash a couple simply for being everything that you are NOT.

By Conscious

August 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

The issue is not with Senator Clinton’s supporters, but with Obama’s inability to close the deal. They want OBAMA to speak directly to them and ask them for their support. Obama [himself and not surrogates] must make genuine and repeated efforts to court and earn the vote of Hillary supporters and white working class people. Just putting Jim Biden on his ticket is not enough.

The Obama people know that they are in trouble and they are building a case to blame Hillary and her supporters for his loss in November; instead of themselves for their failure to relate to her voters.

By Genuine

August 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

Over It, we’re either going to pay for improvements in healthcare, the environment, etc. or we’re going to continue paying with high gas prices, unaffordable healthcare costs, loss of jobs… Either way, we’re going to have to pay. Why not pay for a better life? But a lot of times, people say “I don’t care about improving healthcare; I’m fine.” Yeah, not until illness hits them or their families. They say, “I have a job; I’m fine.” Yeah, until their company has to go through cutbacks, and they get laid off. These are things that can happen to anyone. But I guess the average person just doesn’t give a da** until something happens to them. No one has good intentions anymore. We can’t see the sky for the trees, and that’s why this country will continue to fall behind the rest of the world. We can’t see the bigger picture. It’s bigger than you and me.

By haha

August 26, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

wHERE WERE THESE SAME PEOPLE WHEN GW BUSH STOLE THE ELECTION? Hill Lost fair and square after a long bitter election season but just the fact that her supporters thought they were going to strong arm her in to the VP slot is a joke!! She lost she needs to stop crying and so do her supporters and if you love her soooo much help her pay off all that debt. You think she would have picked Obama if she would have won? Yea right!!!! He has the right to choose his running mate and not be bullied into doing so just because if you don’t they make you loose!!! WOW I’m loosing all faith in the electoral process if this is what it comes down to!! Were were all of these crying fools when Bush stole the election?

By Jim C.

August 26, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

I love hearing the typical cry baby democrats here with their little snipes. This is great entertainment at their expense as usual. What idiots and there are plenty of them in Inman Park, Midtown, Chandler, ect. Ha Ha Ha, enjoy the election!

By Genuine

August 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Dittohead, very well said.

By onefreeman

August 26, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

FYI - Republicans running scared.

The fact that they are Hillary Clinton’s #1 fans prove they are DESPERATE!

By onefreeman

August 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

FYI - Republicans running scared.

The fact that they are Hillary Clinton’s #1 fans proves they are DESPERATE!

By 411 Please

August 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many AAmericans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore.

Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama:

  • He voted against banning partial birth abortion.

  • He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

  • Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government.

  • In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing.

  • Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.

  • Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college.

  • His religious convictions are very murky.

  • He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

  • Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations.

  • Opposed the Patriot Act.

  • First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.

  • Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers.

  • Supports universal health-care.

  • Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees.

  • Supports granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.

  • Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants.

  • Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform.

  • Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.

  • Wants to make the minimum wage a ‘living wage’.

  • Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes.

  • Is a big believer in the separation of church and state.

  • Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid.

  • He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax.

  • He voted No on repealing the ‘Death’ Tax.

  • He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax.

  • Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.

  • He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.

If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama’s and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride.

By onefreeman

August 26, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

FYI - Republicans running scared.

The fact that they are Hillary Clinton’s #1 fans proves they are DESPERATE!

By RCH

August 26, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

*411 Please *

Well said. I suppose if you disagree on all those points you should still vote for Obama, otherwise you are a racist. Since Hillary has similar views a vote against her makes you a sexiest. I guess you can’t win.

By taxpayer

August 26, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

do you really think that political success is “quickly getting over so-called mistreatment by your rivals”?

nope - sorry Cynthia, you don’t get over it in politics - you take names, get even, and punish your enemies so they don’t screw you again.

By kclubmem

August 26, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Why do some whites believe the “American Dream” is only for them?

By onefreewoman

August 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

WHY would Republicans be running scared? LOL That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard since this debacle started!!!

By HillaryOrDeathToAmerica!

August 26, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Obama and the criminal DNC robbed the nation’s greatest political thinker of the presidency she is entitled to.

Better that America fall into ruin than be denied the glories of Hillary.

Without Her, there is no hope.

By Over It

August 26, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Genuine, the government, that huge, inefficient, bureaucratic, politically-run and entirely UNmotivated morass that it is, is the last place I look to make my life better. It takes a loser’s mentality to wake up every morning wondering ‘what will The President do today to make things better for me?’

And the funny thing is, how many people who say they fear their government are among the most eager to surrender more power (and responsibility) to it.

By Don

August 26, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

UN-FREAKIN’ BELIEVABLE !!!! Absolutely the world’s BIGGEST WHINER of all telling anyone to quit whining. Cynthia !! You jerk !! YOU INVENTED WHINING !!! WAAAAAAAGGHH !!!

By newsman

August 26, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

The comments “By Mr. R August 26, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this John McCain, and his plastic face wife are old has beens. Where are the convalescent communities to claim another broke-down body for their quota?

What a well thought out, intelligent, mature response. Another argument for requiring one to be tested before being given the privilege of voting.

By woodie

August 26, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Ms Tucker is whining about Hillary. It’s ok for the media to whine apparently.

By SAG

August 26, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

No one is a bigger whinner than crybaby Obama who thinks Hillary should donate blood for him if asked. Tucker, your bias is so obvious. Being that I have never taken a word you said as serious, your dribble today sure as hell won’t change that.

By Amen

August 26, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

newsman…AMEN! You said what I was thinking! ;-)

By Fred

August 26, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

The Democrats have long defined every issue, everyone and everything in terms of race and gender. Therefore it’s great fun to watch themselves tear themselves apart for exactly those reasons. Go team!

By Mads

August 26, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

If there is one think we saw for certain last night it is that Michelle Obama, like her husband and the democratic party envision the world and America as a utopian fantasyland.

A 1 term senator who started running for president after a year with only a history of community building in urban chicago is suddenly thrust into the position of saviour of the country. His now running mate even thinks he is not ready for what he’s getting into. But, his wife left a high paying job to take care of her family and ill father. Politics at its best in that ‘speech’ last night.

For once, I would like to hear something of the man’s policies as opposed to the empty and undefined promise of a change.
With his ideology, which lies somewhere to the left of Hillary Clinton and to the right of Karl Marx and Ioseph Lenin, he can keep the change.

I am completely amazed at the stupidity of the american public who has fallen head over heels for this guy.

By Ben

August 26, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Both candidates suck. It’s pathetic that these are the best our political system can come up with. Still beats living pretty much anywhere else in the world…

By rob

August 26, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

No , we are still not ready . Its sad to say. When we besmerched the name of Clarence Thomas .Our first black supreme court justice. When we rufused to embrace a true American hero and first black Secretary of State Collin Powell or the first female (black) secretary of state Condalisa Rice refering to them as Uncle Toms. When will Men and Women look beyond there political lines and embrace the history that is being made at this moment.If Obama loses, what will we take from this ? More racial hatered ?Regardless of the outcome history is being written.And it should be obvious to us all that our future leaders will not be elected on the basis of there skin color, but upon there beliefs and love for this nation. When will this nation embrace this reality. Obviously were still not ready. What a pity.

By james lawson

August 26, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

I guess some of the individuals who have posted comments did not hear President Carter. President Carter said something that was very interesting on Monday. He indicated while he was running for the office of President that the republicans were a divided party between Regan and Ford. Just like Hillary and Obama. If you are a Hillary support then you must obvioulsy be a democrat. If that is the case you are seeking a demoncratic president. We are experiencing the same issue as the Republican party. At the rate we are going the White House will another Republican in office.

By U Sound Stupid

August 26, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

kclubmem…why do SO MANY blacks feel that they are entitled to have everything handed to them instead of working for it? I’m so sick of hearing that we owe you reparation, apologies, etc. Why? What have you done to deserve it? Rob us, sell/use drugs, overflow our prisons, carjack, murder and invade our homes?

By Bruce

August 26, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Hi Freedom

(Quote) “It should be clear to ALL on this blog that all the “pretending to be Clinton supporters” are Republicans attempting to split the party. True Clinton supporters will support Obama.”

Nope. I’ve been a solid true blue Democrat for over 30 years. This goes all the way back to the Watergate era. I always admired president Carter for having the courage to lead by example with his energy policy and pushing hard for solutions to the MidEast Conflict. Carter was right on those issues, and the big oil and pro-Israel lobby killed him for it.

Look, I think Obama is a decent man. His wife is OK too. But Obama has faults. He is arrogant and dismissive. He is selfishly opportunistic. He puts himself above the interests of his party. He has no sense of political timing, and he is no gentelman.

I am a Democrat, and I will not be voting for Obama.

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Hi haha:

(Quote) “Hill Lost fair and square after a long bitter election season but just the fact that her supporters thought they were going to strong arm her in to the VP slot is a joke!! She lost she needs to stop crying and so do her supporters. You think she would have picked Obama if she would have won? Yea right!”

So… tell us why you think she would not have taken Obama as VP?

Personally, I believe Hillary would have picked Obama. In fact, she specifically said that she would. Hillary understood the need to unite both halves of this party by running together. OTOH, Obama lied when he said “Hillary would be on anyone’s short list.” Clearly Hillary was never on his list. He never even vetted her for the job.

Why did he lie?

Obama did this out of fear. He could not risk having someone with as good or better qualifications (measured by votes) running with him. He was scared of the Republican-coined term “co-presidency”. Apparently this threatens his perception of manhood.

(Quote) “He has the right to choose his running mate.”

Indeed. He has, and he did. -And now I will use my right to vote against him. That said, I will do so with a very heavy heart. This is done. My mind is made up, and it cannot change.

By just me

August 26, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

All those Hillary supporters who will vote for McCain will be sorry when he overturns Roe v. Wade.

By Has Ben

August 26, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

I say that same thing every election year!

By Tom

August 26, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

411: Thanks for listing all those rock-solid reasons to vote for Barack Obama.

By @RCH

August 26, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

RCH, even if you disagree with all those points, it doesn’t change the fact that they are FACTS.

By BT fan

August 26, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

The above post are correct about Hilary having NO quality campaign. it was run my a loser. Terry McAuffie(sp), who was head of NDC with the two loses to Bush and defeat of Hilary made him 0-3.I though Obama could win in November, but its not going to happen, TOO many liberal left handers…

By bJ

August 26, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

I am an African-American female in my forties who was born and raised in the Chicago area and I have been a Democrat my entire life. I supported Hillary based on her record and accomplishments. I did not/do not support Obama because he does not have the experience, judgment and maturity to be President. He made a major accomplishment and milestone by becoming an African American US Senator, which gave him an opportunity to establish himself by serving the people of Illinois who voted for him. He has done much of nothing as a Senator of Illinois (remember he is a freshman) because he has spent more time running for President then working on the behalf the Illinois residents who voted for him. People have the right to vote for whom they want, but many blacks (not all) when asked what they know about Obama can’t give one solid answer. If anyone wants to succeed by planting untruths and lies, blacks are the first to be misled and fooled many of us will fall for anything. Yes, Hillary lost but to say that she and Bill Clinton were racist was farthest from the truth and Bill Clinton has every right to be hurt and angry because of the sacrifices he made as a Governor and President to help minorities and women. Although I like Joe Biden very much, this ticket looks so ridiculous to have a VP who can run 100 circles around the person who is at the top of ticket.
If Biden was running for President he would get my vote in a heartbeat, This Obama/Biden ticket underscores Obama’s major deficiencies why he should not be President. McCain maybe a Republican but there is a reason why his own party does not embrace him. He is called a “maverick” for a reason, he crosses the aisle and has voted with Democrats based on his conscious and not based on his party. My message is that blacks need to research and find out the facts for themselves and quit listening to what the media says. Just like you need to know and study the bible and textbooks for yourself and not always assume that what you’re being told is the truth. If you don’t you may be lead astray and not know it. I will be voting for McCain.

By 411 Please

August 26, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Tom…if you think that list is a list of “rock-solid reasons to vote for Obama”, then our country is in bigger trouble than I originally thought. It’s people like YOU that will run this country into the ground, taking what you can get for nothing.

By Go

August 26, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Bottom line can be summed up here:

If you work hard to earn your pay and want to keep it and limit goverment intervention in your life, vote McCain.

If you are lazy government to help you with all aspects of your life and want to tax the ‘rich’ and ‘big business’ -who drive the economy and create jobs- vote Obama.

By Charles W.

August 26, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Hey Rob, have you ever hear of Thurgood Marshall? That was the first black supreme court justice, not Clarence Uncle Thomas!!!!

By Charles W.

August 26, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Hey BJ, Joe Biden did run for president and he pulled out. You are nothing but a closet Republican. No true DEMOCRAT would vote for a Republican. It just wouldn’t happen if you truly believe in the Democratic platform. This isn’t about Obama or Hilary. Nice try Republican!!!!

By Tia

August 26, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

Democrates need to get their act together. I agree with you Cynthia, HilLary supporters need to accept the fact that Obama is the nominated candidate and move on. I am most OFFENDED when I hear Hillary supporters say they will vote for McCain. He clearly does not represent the same views as democrates. He does not stand on the same platform as democrates. Obama and Hillary were only divided on one major issue and that was Universal Health Care vs Affordable Health Care. Hillary supporters who have decided McCain is the answer in my opinion don’t want CHANGE. They are not dissatisfied with George Bush’s 2 terms and have once again been BRAINWASHED by the media and Republicans playing to their emotions. We don’t need another 4 years of Republican bull!@#$

By CJ

August 26, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

bJ said: “…blacks need to research and find out the facts for themselves and quit listening to what the media says…

I agree. In the spirit of this statement, I give you The Official John McCain Flip-Flop List — currently up to 74 items.

Enjoy!

By Denise

August 26, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Let’s just be real: The issue is he’s a multiracial man (Black/African American to all of those who can only see in black and white). Rather than vote for someone of color who has the good of this county at heart, many would rather have 4 more years of the same thing. The Clintons are not God nor anywhere close (although some of you seem to think so). Her campaign went into the dirt (we can always put it on Bill) and has given McCain material to use against Mr. Obama. Just be honest not with me but with yourselves, the real reason you’re not voting for Obama has nothing to do with believing in McCain. It’s a vote againt a man of color. Ignorance and fear continues to be alive and well is this place we call America.

By In Closing

August 26, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

CHANGE WHAT?

Friends, I’ll be forthright with you - I believe the American voters who are supporting Barack Obama don’t have a clue what they’re doing, as evidenced by the fact that not one of them - NOT ONE of them I’ve spoken to can spell out his qualifications. Not even the most liberal media can explain why he should be elected.

Political experience? Negligible. Foreign relations? Non-existent. Achievements? Name one. Someone who wants to unite the country? If you haven’t read his wife’s thesis from Princeton, look it up on the web. This is who’s lining up to be our next First Lady? The only thing I can glean from Obama’s constant harping about change is that we’re in for a lot of new taxes.

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

I am completely amazed at the stupidity of the american public who has fallen head over heels for this guy.

No, MADS — you’re just p!ssed that McBush is just another loser for your Party!

America has seen the light, and it’s not the Repug Party for a decade or more to come…

By Worried

August 26, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

I’m worried about those “democrates” that can’t even spell their party name!

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Bottom line can be summed up here—

If you want 4 more years of incompetence from the White House, growing more CORPORATE WELFARE, and shipping US jobs overseas, vote for McBush!

By HJK

August 26, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Thank you, BJ. I agree, it does look silly for Obama to be at the top of the ticket. Sorta like Quayle/Bush Sr.

I think Obama peaked too soon. I was up home in Wisc when he had a huge lead there. Now he’s down considerably, maybe they discovered he’s black….(??)

Imo, if Obama were white like his ma, or dark like his pa, he wouldn’t even be a serious prez candidate. This undistinguished freshman senator never has run a city or state or a large company, or held an important post in govt. In state govt he has a penchant for voting “present”, on tough issues.

In the Oval Office he’d have to stick his neck out, actually sign or veto a bill. Maybe they’d create a 3rd catagory for him…..??

Very sad, we might get an aging party animal in the White House.

By CommunistAJC

August 26, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Cynfia Mckinny, I mean Tucker, Looks your best friend was none too thrilled about last night. HA HA HA!

Have the Democrats wasted the first night of the convention?

Yes, says Democratic Strategist and CNN contributor James Carville.

Speaking on CNN, Carville said the party was too soft in its attacks on John McCain Monday night — the same mistake, Carville says, Democrats made at the 2004 convention.

“The way they planned it tonight was supposed to be sort of the personal — Michelle Obama will talk about Barack Obama personally, Ted Kennedy was a very personal, emotional speech,” Carville said. “But I guarantee on the first night of the Republican Convention, you’re going to hear talk about Barack Obama, commander-in-chief, tax cuts, et cetera, et cetera.”

“You haven’t heard about Iraq or John McCain or George W. Bush — I haven’t heard any of this. We are a country that is in a borderline recession, we are an 80 percent wrong-track country. Health care, energy — I haven’t heard anything about gas prices,” Carville also says. “Maybe we are going to look better Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. But right now, we’re playing hide the message.”

Carville also said the party needs to do a better job of communicating its message to the American people.

“If this party has a message it’s done a hell of a job hiding it tonight, I promise you that,” he said.

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Clearly Hillary was never on his list. He never even vetted her for the job.

Bruce @ 4:35 — wasn’t it Hillary who told us Dems that she had “already been vetted”? Did you believe her then, or did she lie to you? I believe there’s a reason that Hillary was not selected, and that is former prez Bill — he refuses to allow his finanicial records for his library to be scrutinized. Why would the Dems want to take on Bill’s secrets again and try to sell the Clintons again to American voters for November?

And who needs surprises like what John Edwards brought to us this year? Is that what you think Obama would want for his ticket, someone who refuses to be honest about his financing of his library? Who exactly is “vetting” President Clinton these days?

By Marie

August 26, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Cynthia please,

You democrats have been whining and crying for 8 years that George Bush stole both his elections (he was selected and not elected); when you everyone with a brain knew full well the truth of the matter.

Well now the chickens are coming home to roost and you guys are reaping what you have sown. Democrats taught their supporters that if you don’t like the outcome of an election to whine, suit, demonstrate and complain excessively. But now those tactics are being used on “The Golden Child” and it don’t feel so good — does it?

Well suck it up baby. IT IS WHAT IT IS. And I say to my fellow Americans that make up the rag tag group of Hillary Clinton supporters — you just keep on keeping on!! Don’t you dare give up the fight — keep shining the light of truth on this “stolen” election from yo gurl. Go get ‘em!!!!!

By Black or White

August 26, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Why does everyone keep calling Obama black? He’s NOT black…he’s bi-racial. Why doesn’t he say he’s Caucasian? I guess that wouldn’t get the black vote, huh?

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Speaking on CNN, Carville said the party was too soft in its attacks on John McCain Monday night

Communist @ 5:05 — I do believe that’s the same Carville that was a part of that shout-fest show on CNN that got cancelled a few years ago — what was it called now, “Dems Scream at Repugs” or something like that? And anyway, what credibility does Carville have these days, now that he’s a part of the reason for the Clintons losing their control of the Dem Party for the next 8 years or so???

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

I agree, it does look silly for Obama to be at the top of the ticket. Sorta like Quayle/Bush Sr.

It certainly doesn’t look silly when compared to the so-called “experience” you Repugs have offered the American people for the past 8 years or more. Senator Obama is offering a new way of actually getting things done and doing away with the divide-n-conquer politics that we’ve been dealing with since the Ray-gun years. It’s certainly a big job for a big man, and apparently the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove days of politics will be ending in November! So 20th century, with your Cold War, fascist mentality!

By Goldie

August 26, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

Why doesn’t he say he’s Caucasian?

B/W @ 5:17 — Because long ago the “white People” set the rules and they decided that one ounce of black blood meant you were black.

Pick up a history book and read sometime — it will do you no harm.

By MV7

August 26, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Lets hope for Hillary to rouse up the lefty liberals tonight. Dems are swallowing hard now that they have nominated an unelectable candidate. The Biden bounce dropped him 2 points under MeCain. At least he has those 3 electoral votes from Biden’s home state locked up cause other than the liberal Northeast and California, thats all he going to get. Lets just hope MeCain is wise with his Veep pick…

By CommunistAJC

August 26, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Goldie, What credibility does Carville have? Ask CNN, Hillary, Bill, NBC, CBS, ABC and PBS because to these clowns, he is the Karl Rove of the democrap party.

By CJ

August 26, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

“I believe the American voters who are supporting Barack Obama don’t have a clue what they’re doing, as evidenced by the fact that not one of them - NOT ONE of them I’ve spoken to can spell out his qualifications. Not even the most liberal media can explain why he should be elected.”

Did he say, NOT ONE? Oh my.

  • Obama will appoint justices who will uphold Roe v. Wade and who will overturn the recent Scalia/Thomas decision preventing women from suing employers who engage in pay discrimination.

  • Will cut taxes for the poor and middle class (significantly larger cuts than those proposed by McCain) and shift more of the tax burden to those who benefited most from Bush’s economy (those making over $250,000).

  • Will bring troops home from Iraq and deploy more troops to Afghanistan—you know, where the guys who attacked us on 9/11 live.

  • Will invest in solar, wind and geothermal energy and work to get us off the fossil fuels that are financing terrorism and warming the earth’s atmosphere.

  • Will continue working to secure loose nuclear weapons to prevent them from getting in the hands of terrorists (an issue ignored by Bush/McCain).

  • Has a proposal to give Americans who are being gouged by private health insurers a choice to purchase cheaper policies where enormous profits aren’t built into the premium.

  • Unlike Bush/McCain who are allowing our infrastructure to crumble, Obama will invest in strengthening roads, bridges (remember Minneapolis), levees (remember New Orleans?) and damns (one recently broke at the Colorado River and another recently broke in Hawaii…killing several people).

  • Will continue working to make sure that our veterans get the best equipment available to protect them as they do their duties and give them access to quality housing, health care and education opportunities. when they return home.

By JSNEAD

August 26, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

I just want to respond to Aaron’s (12:08pm 8/26/08) comment about “Ms Obama is an idiot”. How can you this well educated and well spoken woman an “IDIOT”. You are an idiot for making that statement. The Obama’s are making more sense than the Republican Candidadte and the “IDIOT” we currently have in office. Mrs. Michelle Obabma speaks very well, she is well educated and she speaks better that Cindy McCain and Laura Bush. Me as a woman, I am offended by your comment.

By JSNEAD

August 26, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

I just want to respond to Aaron’s (12:08pm 8/26/08) comment about “Ms Obama is an idiot”. How can you this well educated and well spoken woman an “IDIOT”. You are an idiot for making that statement. The Obama’s are making more sense than the Republican Candidadte and the “IDIOT” we currently have in office. Mrs. Michelle Obabma speaks very well, she is well educated and she speaks better that Cindy McCain and Laura Bush. Me as a woman, I am offended by your comment.

By CJ

August 26, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

What’s all this nonsense about experience? Cheney and Rumsfeld had decades of experience at the executive level. Bush’s economic team had decades of business experience. What did all that experience get us?

Experience is wasted without knowledge and judgement. John “graduated-second-from-the-bottom-of his-class” McCain has neither.

He admitted that he doesn’t know anything about economics (his economic plan would increase the deficit by $5 trillion), and after all this time, he still doesn’t know the difference between a Sunni Muslim and a Shiite Muslim. Hell, Mr. National Security thinks that Czechoslovakia is till a country.

McCain has more experience? Nixon had more experience than Kennedy. But I shudder to think what would have happened if Kennedy weren’t president during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

By brainexerciser

August 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

I don’t think telling Clinton supporters, who feel they and their candidate were disrespected by the Democratic party and Mr. Obama, to “Grow Up” and support Mr. Obama is appropriate. If they truly felt disrespected and want to prevent this from happening again, they should indeed vote for McCain. I am saddened to think that our two candidates are supposed to be the best we have in this country, and am not eager to have either of them lead us. You have Obama bragging about how he would like to give drivers licenses to anyone who illegally sneaks into this country, and you have McCain who brags about being the biggest free trader of all. Sad. I do credit the Clinton supporters who held the signs reading “Clinton supporters voting for McCain Sweetie”. Obama deserves to continue to be slammed for his seemingly harmless “sweetie” comment. I am in my forties, like Obama, and if I called a female professional “sweetie”, I would expect to be fired for my disrespect. Does anyone else in their 40’s out there actually call female professionals that they work with “sweetie” and feel normal about it? Weird.

By Leslie

August 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

Go ahead and call people whose opinions of Obama differ from your own whiners Cynthia. It’s been my experience that when someone has nothing to back up their opinion, they resort to name calling and threats. You’ve managed to do both. Is that how a truely professional columnist & editor acts? Calling people childish names and stomping her foot when things don’t go your way?

By mike

August 26, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

Cynthia, If they were to “grow up” they’d be republicans.

I couldn’t resist.

By Native ATLien

August 26, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Clinton Punch Drinkers/PUMAs strategy is “i’m gonna drink this poison so i can kill you.”

gotta love that kinda logic…

By Jen

August 26, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama does not owe Hillary Clinton a spot on his ticket, yet her supporters seem to think he does. I guess I see why Sen. Clinton’s supporters like her so much: they all have an obscene sense of entitlement.

By whome

August 26, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

MR. R - If John McCain is a “coward” then you must be the dumbest SOB who ever lived - go back and crawl under your rock with Hillary.

By enoughsaid

August 26, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

I love it why the Demwits (Deemokrats) talk about cutting taxes for the poor. Hell, they don’t pay any taxes now - especially after they file their taxes - with all the credits they get. In fact, nearly 50% of the working class - not to mention those too lazy or stupid (quitting school?) to work, already do not pay any federal taxes. Talk about “Fairness”??? I work my a* off every day and pay taxes so others can live off my sweat. That’s not Fair.

By Dan

August 26, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Get ready Dems. It’ll be McCain and Romney for the next 8 years and then Romney and his VP pick for 8 more.

By Max

August 26, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

First, politics shouldn’t be “played” the way Cynthia Tucker describes it. McCain should have never “embraced” Bush, after the way they spread rumors about his family in 2000. It made McCain look weak and/or desperate to win in 2008. As for Hillary supporters, I’m one of 18 million people who cast a vote for her- and have yet to see Obama acknowledge her or us in any meaningful way. Is he that arrogant? He never seriously considered her for his ticket. Can you imagine the electricity that would be surrounding this convention right now had he chosen her instead of Biden? Obama put ego ahead of doing the right thing. So, if I choose to withhold my backing, that is MY choice at this point and if Ms. Tucker doesn’t realize that Obama is not automatically entitled to our unconditional support, perhaps she is the one who needs to grow up.

By brainexerciser

August 26, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

Well said Max.

Now that Obama is dropping in the polls, I suspect that you will see/hear Obama and his fans cheer as loud as they can on TV for Ms. Clinton, though. In my opinion, supplying a round of public praise for Hilary when you’re slipping in the polls, should not make up for his arrogant lack of respect toward Ms. Clinton and her supporters.

By Ray

August 26, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Cynthia,

With all your bravado and Obama praising, try as you will, it will come down to whether or not the American public wants a black American as president. You can beat the drums, editorialize, chant the party line, but the elephant in the living room is whether or not a black candidate is what the American public wants. You know it and so does everyone else. You have tried to be as polar as you can possibly be, all of your editorials have a slant toward Mr. Wonderful and you have tried to portray him as the one that America wants, but when the voters go into the booth, close the curtain and pull up the ballot, we will see what the American public wants. He is not the one and I think in your heart of hearts, you know it.

By Cactus

August 26, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

So far the only thing that Obama has said is “change”, change what. Is he looking for the chamge in my pocket, change in congress, change in the people, just what does this man plan to change? He sure went for change when he picked a senator of 30 years to be his running mate, that sounds like the “same ole same ole” to me, no change there. I don’t trust this man or his wife (and I sure don’t trust Kennedy) they are trying too hard to be American. Trying too hard to be a real American family (by putting their children on stage). Sorry I just don’t trust him, my gut says vote McCain for now.

By YAWN

August 26, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

GOLDIE…you have a negative comment about EVERY post on here. You sound like you think your opinion is the ONLY one. All you have succeeded in doing is making a HUGE fool of yourself. Your opinion is not the necessarily the correct one. Not to most of us, anyway. You sound illiterate to the educated masses.

By Cactus

August 26, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

I see the mayor of Atlanta has shown up, and her expectation is what? I have a suggestion: How about ambassador to Zimbabwe? She could change that country (and its dictator) as she has changed Atlanta.

By t mo

August 26, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

CyTHUGnthia

By t mo

August 26, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

mayor of atl is a THUG

By George

August 26, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this

Cynthia,

Exactly how many more blog posts do you intend to open with Hillary drama? This Hillary supporter has moved on - as has the majority of her supporters. It appears to me that you are doing quite a bit of whining yourself. Practice what you preach.

By BT fan

August 26, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

The truth was stated on National TV few minutes ago in the NDC “Cynthia Tucker, ajc editorial chief is dishonest and prejudice and wonders how she can keep her job’” I agree, a racists trying to hide her identity. Please Co Communication, lets get our state newspaper back to reality..

By donald

August 26, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

I will be posting various McCain items over the next several weeks. This weasel has slid by enough. Time to expose him and the repubs for what they truly are - scum!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS146394+11-Apr-2008+PRN20080411

By L D

August 26, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

I can’t agree more. This insistence on “catharsis” does little to suggest that women should be accepted on an equal basis with men in the political arena. And to think that a Hillary supporter will instead vote for McCain strikes me as a bizarre vote against one’s own self-interest. It is time to suck it up, accept defeat gracefully, and support Obama.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

August 26, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

This just keeps getting easier and easier for McCain, thanks to the moonbats like Tucker, Luckovich, and the rest of the National Media.

Oh by the way, if anybody was wondering I think McCain has one less house the John Kerry.

By Gina

August 26, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Give me a break. Cynthia Tucker is the whiner…Hillary was cheated out of the nomination by biased press coverage, DNC games (MI/FL) and then disrespected in not receiving the VP role. Now Obama wants her to do the heavy lifting in the “unity charge” because he is too inexperienced to do it himself. Well if the party needs her so much she should have been the nominee. Women have been “sucking up” discrimination for too long. If Obama had lost, Ms. Tucker would call anyone who dared call him a whiner, a racist. I just heard Charles Barkley say that if Obama loses its because America is racist…How about we judged the content of his character (and his experience) and found it lacking?

By Peaches

August 26, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

Cynthia, When you use terms like Racist it leaves a long term scar. You reap what you sow. People like you use the term when it suits you to silence opponents by intimidation. You are the one who needs to grow up. You are the one who has used race to suit your political purpose of the moment. Words have consequences.

To suggest that the Hillary supporters are babies when you and your side in the bitter primary campaign were so cavalier playing the race card is just dishonest.

We are used to that from you.

By Stew

August 26, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

I am voting for BOB BARR and I hope all the Hillary supporters do too because she should be at least the VP canditate.

By Enoch

August 26, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

This is just rich!!! Cynthia Tucker complaining about whiners and crybabies. Ms. Tucker has helped create a political philosophy out of being a whiner and a crybaby. It’s called liberalism.

By jcatl

August 26, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

McCain is the GOP’s gold-plated turd. They’ll try to polish him up and make him attractive to the undereducated NASCAR crowd, but at the end of the day he’ll still smell like the self-serving cr@p that he is. He never met a compromise he didn’t like, so long as it forwarded John McCain’s career. He’s as phony as the day is long and his wife looks like she escaped from the set of the Stepford wives.

By shane

August 27, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this

i want to know what all the hillary haters think about her after tonight…

By Ian

August 27, 2008 12:59 AM | Link to this

Love you Clintons. You Both Have Been great over the years to the African American Community I know frist hand I lived in the US Atlanta, Georgia.

Bill spends most of his time working hard for people suffuring with HIV/AIDS for that I say Thank you Bill and Hillary.

We will support Obama - Biden ticket 100% The Clintons have been great to the Bahamian People as well, and for that we say thank you and love you both! 100%

From: Ian Nassau, The Bahamas

By Bruce

August 27, 2008 1:16 AM | Link to this

Hi Goldie:

Your quote of Bruce said: “Clearly Hillary was never on his list. He never even vetted her for the job.”

Goldie said:

Wasn’t it Hillary who told us Dems that she had ‘already been vetted’? Did you believe her then, or did she lie to you?

Bruce replied: Hillary was making a reference to the Clinton-era Republican investigation of ALL of their business and financial involvements, from Whitewater to the Rose Law firm. By the way, that was done with 42 million dollars of OUR tax money. -I’d say if there was something to use against Hillary, they would have found it.

But YOU should have known where that reference came from. Please don’t expect me to do your homework for you.

Goldie:

I believe there’s a reason that Hillary was not selected, and that is former prez Bill -he refuses to allow his finanicial records for his library to be scrutinized.

Bruce: Geezzz… you forgot to mention there may also be possible dirt to dig up on Hillary’s daughter Chelsey. If you are that desperate for fresh dirt (or the possibility of potential fresh dirt) to use against Hillary, it becomes clear you are looking for excuses to justify your irrational position.

Goldie:

Why would the Dems want to take on Bill’s secrets again and try to sell the Clintons again to American voters for November?

Bruce: -Because by every metric of measure those were the best 8 years America has had in the last 50 years. Perhaps Barak is afraid of standing in the shadow of that legacy?

Goldie:

And who needs surprises like what John Edwards brought to us this year? Is that what you think Obama would want for his ticket, someone who refuses to be honest about his financing of his library? Who exactly is “vetting” President Clinton these days?

Bruce: First, I feel sorry for Edwards. It is a sad commentary that sexual scandals continue to be used to rob America of potential leaders. BTW, this was also done to Martin Luthur King by the CIA. And more recently, similar dirt was used against Rudy Guilani.

That said, I should point out one tiny technicality in your prior comment: Bill Clinton would not have been on the Obama ticket. Still, it’s nice to know you hate and fear Bill so much. Small people are given to that.

Sooo… are you wondering what secrets American voters might discover about Obama and Biden? Trust me, I doubt they would come through that same cruel process of smear and investigation as cleanly as the Clintons did.

For the record, I don’t hate Barak. I just dislike the dismissive and condescending way he has treated me and the other 18 million Hillary voters. It was an avoidable hazard.

I don’t expect you to defend Barak’s VP decision. I expect him to do that. I will say that he must do a far better job of defending that decision than you have done.

By Get over it

August 27, 2008 6:14 AM | Link to this

Ms. Tucker, your attitude (and others like you) toward Clinton supporters is the VERY reason I will never vote for Obama. I will write in Senator Clinton’s name on my Georgia ballot or vote Nader. NOBAMA…When we lose again in November it will be because Dean and company put yet another weak candidate in the GE.

By Norbert

August 27, 2008 7:14 AM | Link to this

Easy for Obama supporters to lecture Clinton supporters about how to be good losers. We’ll see how they do in November when they lose to McCain. I’m sure we’ll hear all the usual whining and crying about racial discrimination. It was pulling the race card on anyone who dared challenge Obama for the black vote that especially galled the Clinton supporters. The Republicans will brush off these tactics

By B-Bro

August 27, 2008 7:29 AM | Link to this

Mr. R.

You should not even be allowed to enjoy the freedom citizens of the U.S. have after making comments you have about a U.S. Veteran that put his life on the line for our freedom. You my friend are the coward for using your childish little remarks because you may not be seeing the results of a run-off that you wish to see. I suggest you apologize and stand back and re-evaluate your way of thinking and change your life if you think to calling war veterans cowards, you sicken me.

By Tee

August 27, 2008 7:34 AM | Link to this

Gram,

Please learn how to spell before posting messages that will be read by people around the world.

By longmemory

August 27, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this

Hmmm. I don’t seem to remember Ms. Tucker being quite so grown up when Gore or Kerry lost to Bush.

“Risk an image as whiners and cry-babies if they don’t stop complaining about Hillary’s defeat”. Thats great advice all democrats should listen to. Just substitute any democrat cantidates name for Hillary’s.

By Sandra

August 27, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this

Hey, who are you to tell other women how they should vote or feel?

Maybe these women are more insightful than you give them credit….more insightful than the OBama “fan” club group!

It’s not Hillary’s job (nor yours) to convince this group of voters that there is something more to OBama than hype and the ability to give a good speech.

It’s OBama’s. If he can’t win their votes, convince them that he’s worthy of their support, then he will lose the election.

So far, OBama’s been treated with kid gloves by the media and his supporters get all indignant when he’s not.

Lighten up.

By M

August 27, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

Hillary supporters need to ask only one question: do you want John McCain to choose the next Supreme Court Justice?

By Tee

August 27, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

Buck writes that John McCain is ‘honorable’. Define ‘honorable’. Hasn’t John McCain been married 3 times? And he was cheating with Cindy while still married to his last wife. That tells me he’s not a man of commitment. Is that what you call ‘honorable’. WOW!!!! As a country, is this what we are resulting to. What message are we sending to the younger generation about being committed to a cause even when times are tough. Whatever happened to a man and woman marrying each other for life. Even when times are tough, you learn to work it out. That’s commitment! That’s honorable! Even during the tough times, you don’t cheat on your wife with another woman. If he can’t work out his personal relationships with his women, how can he run the country? Where are his family valves? Silly me, he doesn’t have any. But this is the man you want to be the Commander and Chief of the United States. This is sad!!!

By markom

August 27, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

By November, Hillary’s supporters will come around. They love the old girl and their wounds are fresh. Hillary put up a good fight. She gave as good as she got. In the end, Obama will be well served by his clash with the Hildabeast. I truly beleive he has already beaten the toughest opponent he’s going to face this year.

By hotlanta

August 27, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

I saw Hiliary supporters holding up signs but not one was holding up a check to help her pay off her debt. If you love her soooo much put your money where your mouth is. I was listening to George Stumpenepolus when he said that Obama “OWED” a debt to Hiliary. I said to myself for what. He needs to thank her for helping him succeed when she was all smile asking him “do he denounce Rev. Wright”. Obama keep rolling on and keep doing it/doing it and doing it well. Obama was raised around white folks so he knows no matter what he says or does Hiliary supporters will NEVER like him.

By hotlanta

August 27, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

I saw Hiliary supporters holding up signs but not one was holding up a check to help her pay off her debt. If you love her soooo much put your money where your mouth is. I was listening to George Stumpenepolus when he said that Obama “OWED” a debt to Hiliary. I said to myself for what. He needs to thank her for helping him succeed when she was all smile asking him “do he denounce Rev. Wright”. Obama keep rolling on and keep doing it/doing it and doing it well. Obama was raised around white folks so he knows no matter what he says or does Hiliary supporters will NEVER like him.

By 4 more years

August 27, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

Is Roe vs Wade the ONLY Supreme Court decision you Democrats know about? It’s amazing that people will vote for a candidate based on ONE factor. Look at the whole picture people. I’m not saying McCain is the best person. I’m not saying Obama is the best person. But I sure as hell will look at more than ONE factor when I make my decision on Election day. The biggest problem with this country is this….any moron 18 years or older who remembers to register can vote. Take the time between now and Election Day to EDUCATE yourself on each candidate. Don’t vote for McCain just because he’s a Republican. Don’t vote for Obama just because he’s black. Don’t vote for McCain just because he fought in a war. Don’t vote for Obama because you’re worried about ONE issue in the Supreme Court. If you’re not willing to educate yourself, do all of us a favor - use birth control and stay home on November 4th.

By Jazz

August 27, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this

This column is not up to the standards of a typical Cynthia Tucker column. It is so short and brusque, it sounds like it was chopped in half. If the goal was to be persuasive, it failed by a longshot. If the goal wasn’t to persuade, what was it? Simply to upset/antagonize a group that is grieving? I agree with the basic message, but this column added nothing to the process or to the debate except another ad hominem/stereotyped attack. Cynthia Tucker, I expect more from you.

By gman

August 27, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

If Obama thinks that the Clintons are gonna bow before him and kiss his ring, he is in for the biggest shock of his life. Clinton doesn’t control her supporters are she can do is ask them to support Obama. Count on at least 15-20% refusing that invitation. If Obama doesn’t get the 8-15% bump coming out of this convention, he’s in trouble. Any other half way decent Democrat would be 15-20% ahead already. Enough said.

By Anne Seattle

August 27, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

Obama did exactly what Frederick Douglas did to the Women’s movement, he put women in the back seat once again. Although I will not be voting for McCain- to do so would be in violation of everything I stand for- I shall not cast another vote for another man so long as I shall live.

I am tired of men ruining/running my country!

By Obama?Your Mama!

August 27, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Cynthia I can think of more than a few four letter words to describe you. You’re just like T. Moore. You serve nothing but to stir controversy and hate. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the Hillary supporters don’t want to vote for some two year senator and his militant wife. What kind of true American would take the American Flag off their plane when running for President of the United States? Blacks are rallying for Obama because of his skin color and not because of his views. Choosing one of your harshest critics for a running mate, boy that’s really smart. Biden trying to reverse all those things he said about Obama. Yeah you can really take him at his word. Might as well have chosen Hillary. But it’s all about unity now right? All this campaign has suceeded in is causing deeper divide in their own party and Americans.

By Willie

August 27, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Well it looks like Georgia is going for McCain. So the blogs trying to win support for BHO in the ajc are useless. We know Atlanta is a racist city therefore they attack Conservatives. The End.

By cindy

August 27, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

You hillary supporters are outrageous. I would not vote for McCain if Obama didn’t win. I wouldn’t turn on my parties and ideas cause my candidate nor I can accept defeat. McCain is Bush Lite and if you traitors put him in office out of jealousy, spite or the fact that you can’t bring yourself to vote for a black man then you deserve EVERYTHING he is going to do to your stupid behinds. This elitest..this idiot… this man that is clearly out of touch with most of America is going to have to place 3 supreme court judges and minorities, women and anyone else that is diff is going to suffer cause you can’t get your heads out your asses. You shouldn’t even be allowed to vote if you would throw your vote away so lightly.

If you believe in Hillary so much and trust her then do what she asked of you last night and stop damn crying. She lost..get over it.. Obama won. More ppl voted for him ok…yeah she got 18 million votes but obviously it wasn’t enough. Obviously more ppl wanted him as the candidate. Stop dividing your party and get on board.

Hillary’s words: “I want you to ask yourselves: Were you in this campaign just for me?” she asked. “Or were you in it for that young Marine and others like him? Were you in it for that mom struggling with cancer while raising her kids? Were you in it for that boy and his mom surviving on the minimum wage? Were you in it for all the people in this country who feel invisible?”

Ok so listen to your damn candidate and stop b***!!!

By kclubmem

August 27, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

U Sound Stupid…Have you been attending your anger management classes lately?

By Joyce

August 27, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

At 71 years young, I don’t think I need to “grow up” as you put it. I’m not a whiner either. But I am a Hillary Clinton fan who will not now nor ever vote for Obama. Why? Because he is not the right candidate. He should never have been in the race at this stage in his political life. She is the one person who could step right in and lead us out of the mud we have been slogging in for the last 8 years. All of her speech was true. She’s the best of the best and the DNC and media let her down. Her delegates who had promised her their vote, reneged under pressure from Pelosi and Dean. So, I won’t get over it! But I will wait for the next round so people will have a chance to right the wrong of this election.

By Willlie

August 27, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the whims of the Amercian democratic party for NOT voting for Hilary Clinton. I love it. I can not think of a better payback for the sleeazy things she and bill have done. Sometimes I think the old adage ‘What goes around comes around” applies. This is that one time. Hilary is a non winner for President. M. Obama helps BHO be a non winner for President also…..It sure is fun watching liberals. There should be a sitcom for it….hey Rush L. could give you some real live examples.

By Charles W.

August 27, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Joyce, if Hillary Clinton was the best candidate she would have won the primary. Please explain to me why she lost. We have to get over it and unite so that we don’t end up with at least 4 more years of the insanity this administration has heaped on this country. If you believe the country is going in the right direction and John McCain will do a good job then vote for him. I don’t believe that so I am voting for Obama. It’s really that simple.

By Copyleft

August 27, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Sad and stupid are the few remaining Bush lovers, O’Reilly watchers, and Limbaugh listeners.

The hateful morons will always be with us, but we can be gracious enough to simply ignore them and get on with the business of running America without them.

By Bruce

August 27, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

Hi Charles W:

(Quote) “…if Hillary Clinton was the best candidate she would have won the primary. Please explain to me why she lost.”

Dude, Hillary lost because more Republicans voted in the Democratic primary than ever before in American history.

It was crossover votes, votes that will not be there in November that ensured Obama’s nomination in the Democratic primary.

It’s that simple.

Republicans in many states have demanded people show a photo ID before citizens are allowed to vote. I say that we demand a party ID to stop those jerks from screwing with our party’s nomination.

~”Soo… you want a party ID? Sure, man, just vote a Democrat ballot each November for 4 consecutive presidential elections. Then you can vote in our primary nomination process…”

That outta fixem.

By Copyleft

August 28, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Keep dreaming, Bruce… the “crossover Republicans” voted for HILLARY, because she’s the one they really wanted to see nominated.

They had an entire hate-and-smear program ready to launch against the “most hated woman in America,” and Barack’s victory robbed them of that.

It eats them up with impotent rage that America is finally returning to its proud, liberal identity, and that the failed policies of the Republicans are on the way out. That’s as it should be.

The Republicans had their chance, and they blew it. Now they’re tossing out lies, smears, and anything they can think of to try and cling to power, but it’s not working. America has MovedOn.

By Charles W.

August 28, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Sorry Bruce but you strengthened my argument. Hillary got crossover votes and still lost.

By Obama '08

August 29, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this

Hillary is not the nominee. Besides, all of her 18 million votes are not genuine thanks to Hushmouth Limbaugh. You idiots fell for operation chaos!

By Bruce

August 29, 2008 3:24 AM | Link to this

Wow! -I have to ask: Are you three different idiots, or are you just one Republican poser pretending to be three idiots?

First, to Charles W: You said “Please explain to me why she lost.”

I said Hillary lost because Republicans crossed over in droves to vote against her -by voting for Obama. Any analysis of poll returns in the majority of RED states (with the possible exception of Texas) proves it.

Yes, Hillary did get some crossover votes, but not nearly so many as Obama. Not even close. Consider: If Republican crossover votes had tended to favor Hillary, she would have won all those RED states Obama took in the midwest and the south during the primary. That’s simple mathematics.

Those crossover votes for Obama will magically disappear in November. Their job is done. Hillary was voted out of the race.

It’s true that Republicans do hate Hillary. -But that does not mean they love Obama. They hate Hillary because they’re afraid of her.

All the RED states will stay RED in November. I’m not happy to say that. I wish it wasn’t true, but it is. Obama will not take those RED states that conveniently pushed him to the top in the Democratic primary.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For Copyleft

Try to get your head around this simple concept: Republicans are in RED states. They control RED states. If crossover votes favored Hillary, she would have won all those RED states that Obama took.

As for your suggestion that Republicans had “an entire hate-and-smear program ready to launch against the most hated woman in America”, -what makes you think they didn’t have hate-and-smear programs lined up and ready for every single Democratic candidate running?

Trust me, they did. Smearing is what they do. Aside from lying and stealing, it’s one of the very few things neo-cons are good at.

Still, if Republicans had real dirt on Hillary, they would have used it to limit Bill Clinton to ONE TERM as president. Bill got re-elected to a second term because Republicans used every bit of dirt they had -and it wasn’t enough to stop him. There is no more dirt on Hillary.

In fact, all they could have hoped for was to pressure Hillary to divorce Bill after the Monica Lewinski scandal and their failed attempt at impeachment. Sadly, they didn’t get that either.

That’s why I say they’ve got nothing on Hillary.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For Obama ‘08

(Quote) “Hillary is not the nominee. Besides, all of her 18 million votes are not genuine thanks to Hushmouth Limbaugh. You idiots fell for operation chaos!”

I see you’re just as big an idiot as the last two morons. Yes, Limbaugh crowed that he slanted the polls in favor of Hillary with “Operation Chaos”.

He crowed and you bought it.

Problem is, nationwide it just isn’t true. Check the dates that Limbaugh promoted his plan. Texas is the only state Limbaugh affected. Obama took all the other RED states. If Limbaugh’s little joke had actually been a significant factor, Hillary would have won all the RED states Obama took in the midwest and the south.

Operation Chaos was Limbaugh’s cover story for conservative crossover votes that demonstrably favored Obama.

By Mads

August 29, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

If Barak Obama showed one thing last night, it’s that he is truly a big government, it’s goivernement’s job to help everyone candidate. In most places of the world, this ideology is called socialism.

By Mads

August 29, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

If Barak Obama showed one thing last night, it’s that he is truly a big government, it’s goivernement’s job to help everyone candidate. In most places of the world, this ideology is called socialism.

By Mads

August 29, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

If Barak Obama showed one thing last night, it’s that he is truly a big government, it’s governement’s job to help everyone candidate. In most places of the world, this ideology is called socialism.

By Bree

September 6, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

I am a Hillary supporter who is getting tired of hearing people bad mouth Hillary. Most of you know that Hillary is the MOST EXPERIENCED person between the two parties. I am 42 years old and have always voted, however I am in no hurry to run to the polls this year because I do not like either candidate. Since Barrack did not choose Hillary as his running mate, I really wish she would step aside and quit supporting his campaign and let him and Bi…(whatever his name is)take care of their own business. THEY NEED HER, AND BARRACK KNOWS IT!

By Bree

September 6, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

For all of the Dems that continue to say “Grow up” to us Hillary supporters. Lets just see the DEMS win the white house without our vote. It is frustrating, and people should understand why we are upset. THE BEST WO(MAN) DID NOT WIN!!!
Although Hillary pleaded for us to unite, Obama still have not earned my vote. I believe he is a liar and will say anything to win. He has contradicted himself too many times.

By Copyleft

September 9, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Yes, Hillary was more experienced. But no, her ideas and positions weren’t popular enough to win her the nomination.

That happens in EVERY primary season. Why so worked-up about this one? I never get my favorite candidate past the primary-selection process, either… but I’m willing to consider a second choice.

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