Opinion Talk

By CJ

August 25, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

McCain’s 2nd ad has a more significant message: Clinton getting snubbed. The fact is, that McCain ad is reaching out to Clinton supporters in an attempt to conjure up their anger at her loss and bring them to the Republican side. It’s pretty effective in that sense.

The fact is, Hillary Clinton supporters are a lot more likely to jump ship and vote Republican or not vote at all than Barack Obama supporters at this point in time. On the contrary, if the situation were reversed, very few if any Obama supporters would jump the Democrat ship if she was was the nominee. This makes Clinton a more strategic choice for the nominee from the voter retention perspective.

By CHARLES KIMBROUGH

August 25, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

It is so interesting…Joe Biden, who voted for the war in Iraq, is now being portrayed as a supporter of Obama all along, sharing the same views that make this a winning team. What a bunch of hogwash! Joe Biden came in well behind Hillary, so he thinks he can reclaim his glory by hitching his wagon to the King Obama star. Liberals will forget all about his insulting, racist comment about not going into a 7/11 without hearing an Indian accent. Democrats get away with that all the time!

By Don

August 25, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

It’s all a RACIST PLOT, Cynthis…. BTW, when are you going to DISAPPEAR?

By KenClaude

August 25, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Barack Hussein Al Bin Biden Obama is a recipe for disaster. A part-time college professor, a community activist, ex-cocaine junky, Chicago machine politician that had candidates thrown off the ballot because of technicalities, George Bush III.

By Peadawg

August 25, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

Obama just lost the election by not picking the Hildabeast!!

McCain ‘08 baby!

By hrw

August 25, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

America is seeking changes from the old leadership; thus, looking for new leaders to move these United States forward. If Senator Biden has been nominated for the VP positon….we all know that the McCain party will not be happen and now comes the mud…in different colors since race has been the issues from the on-set. We cannot afford any more same old business as usually been the same on the this leadership table. McCain is to old and can’t remember this or that…and Alltimer Deseases perhaps is taking over the sense of how he can’t respond to simple question.

By Shawny

August 25, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

Of course, McCain used Biden’s comments against Obama….duh. This is politics. why would you be suprised?

Wait until McCain picks a VP candidate and watch the feathers fly again. Just don’t be too suprised when it happens. Stupid post.

By terri

August 25, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

To all you Republicans-what do you think we are going to do when McCain picks Romney? What goes around comes back around. To all the so call angry democrats that won’t vote for Obama because he didn’t pick Hillery you are a bunch of sore, whining loosers that are trying to strong arm the democrat nominee. If Obama loses because of you all, Hillery will not have a chance in 2012. The only reason old white people won’t vote for Obama is because of his race. His platform is 95% identical to Hillery’s.

By Shawny

August 25, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Bayh or Clinton would have been a better pick. Biden is a blowhard.

Think about the ‘message’ of change and fixing a broken Washington….Biden has been a senator forever, and he epitomizes Washington and all that is wrong with the ‘system’.

some change.

By Shawny

August 25, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

McCain/Lieberman in ‘08

By Peadawg

August 25, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Don amen! I wish Cynthia would go away. I get tired of reading all the “race this, race that” articles that Cynthia writes. Race is only an issue because people like Cynthia make it one.

By Mike

August 25, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Hmmm…I guess Barry really did pick someone with good judgement.

By Mike

August 25, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Race? No issue with me.

I’ll take a Herman Cain/J.C. Watts (or, the other way around for that matter) ticket any day of the week!

By John Currey

August 25, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Something OLD, something NEW, something BORROWED,something BLUE, the theme of the Democrate.

Old being Biden, new being Obammmmma, borrowed being the tax dollars of people who earned them and NOT to be returned, and blue - well, our future if the perfectly matched Obama/Biden ticket is elected. By the way, the perfect match is there is a turd at both ends of the ticket!

jc

By "The Corporal"

August 25, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

A couple of thoughts:

1) The truth hurts! That’s why these ads will be so devastating to Obama. It makes Biden look like a conservative talk show host.

2) I believe the democrats have suddenly developed a keen sense of morality. John Edwards has been banned from making a speech at the Democratic National Convention for having an affair and lying about it but Bill Clinton will be speaking.

By Retired

August 25, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

This is not about electing the best person for the job. It is about party politics. Politicians, supporters, media, all will say whatever it takes to get their preferred party elected. Obama doesn’t care what Biden said about him during the primaries as long as Biden can deliver votes now. Politicians have sold their souls (and the country) for their party. Unfortunately, the news media (print, broadcast, cable, internet, etc.) have done the same thing. A sad day for America.

By marko

August 25, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

McCain would be an idiot not to use Biden’s remarks. By the same token, Obama would be foolish not to show footage of McCain kissing up to W. McCain will attempt to to portray himself as a maverick, but the truth is that he voted with Bush ninty-five percent of the time. Of coarse this won’t hurt him with the Limbaugh crowd, but those folks are even less popular than they were eight years ago when they used an overwhelming minority to force W down our throats. This will be a very close election, but I strongly suspect that the right wing’s paculiar habit of fighting their enemies by creating more of them has tilted the field in favor of Obama.

By Stoned Mountain

August 25, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

The vigorous youthful leader picks a seasoned hand as partner. Standard politics, and in this case it can broaden Obama’s base. Just as JFK’s selection of Lyndon Johnson brought experience, and the South.

By Tuffy, The Airborne Soldier

August 25, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

That’s right you Dems who supported Hillary. Even after she has TOLD you to support Obama, your worthless behinds are going to support McCain and further the demise of this country, protect a criminal sitting President and his administration, just so you can attempt to put Clinton in office against all that is law in this country. GROW UP.

McCain is a poor candidate. He will continue to have Americans killed, claiming to know how to win wars. Ever asked yourself how he plans to do that? Claiming that he knows how to correct our energy crisis, ever heard how he plans to do that? How to correct the housing foreclosure crisis, anything?? Hell, how about a plan to restore our country as a leader in the world, I’ll wait……

Just as I thought, nothing. McCain was a POW who served his country in a time of war 40 some odd years ago. He was a Navy pilot, not a ground forces commander. He was a POW, not winning any war, anywhere. He married into money after leaving his wife who stuck by him through his ordeal. He left her during her ordeal. He thinks drilling is an answer to the oil crisis. Even most Americans know that it will not impact the costs for some time. He attacks Obama because he has no message, no plan, no ideas except we’ll bomb and attack any country that does not agree with us because WE HAVE NO FOREIGN DIPLOMACY.

HOW CRAZY CAN YOU PEOPLE BE???

By Tire of you too

August 25, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Don/Peadog,

No one is forcing you to read Cynthia. You can choose to stop just like she can choose what to write about. Race may not be an issue for you but that fact doesn’t automatically nullify it for EVERYBODY ELSE. If you’re tired of the race issue, then move to another country and READ SOMETHING ELSE!! This is a free country with free press. Grow up

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Screw the democrats, republicans, conservatives, liberals, etc. It doesn’t matter who wins this circus of a race, because this country is going to hell in a hand basket. This country is so corrupt it’s not even funny anymore. The USA is going to be a third world country before the turn of the century. How can we tell other countries what to do???? This government has so much BS going on inside, there is no person that can fix it. Every great empire prior to us has fallen, and guess what, it is our turn. How are we trillions of dollars in debt, and 45% of that is to China and oil producing countries. HOW DID WE GET HERE!!!

By RealityKing

August 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

Where’s 0bama’s lead? He has been given a free pass by a progressively corrupt media, 92% of which will vote for him, free publicity, and protection. Why doesn’t he have a double digit lead!? And what in heavens name will pork-belly spender Joe Biden bring to the table!!??

By RealityKing

August 25, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Could it be that America is not ready to follow a progressively corrupt media and socialist democrats…?

By Copyleft

August 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

No, it could not. Because we’ve seen where “conservative leadership” takes us—right down the toilet.

America’s recovering from the neocon illness… and liberalism is the cure.

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

RealityKing, you want to know the reality of why Obama doesn’t have a double digit lead?? He doesn’t look like or have the name of a typical American. There is a catch 22 though. If Obama had been white, he wouldn’t have been the Democratic nominee. I will admit that race is what got him to this point, but it is race that will lose him the election. Both candidates are terrible choices. Black folks think that if Obama is elected, he will change everything that is wrong with America??? Just say no to drugs people.

By Peadawg

August 25, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Tire of you too: All I’m saying is it’s pathetic that people in this country can’t get past race. People like Cynthia (and you I’m assuming) are the ones keeping the race issue alive. This election isn’t about race. It’s about neither candidate being a good one to elect and trying to pick what you think is the lesser of two evils.

By The Snark

August 25, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this

Karl Rove can crank up the old smear machine and run any ad he wants. It won’t work this year.

As far as Sen. Obama’s supposed lack of experience … the last time we elected a bright young lawyer from the Illinois statehouse with big ideas and relatively little foreign and national experience, he turned out to be a pretty good President.

By michelle

August 25, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

hillary supporters are such children. it’s cool though. when your daughters get knocked up from rape or carelessness, mccain’s supreme court panel won’t be there to back them up. and don’t forget that after they have that baby, the social programs won’t be funded either. the society will support them when they’re pregnant and then dump them when they’re mothers. think about that, you women hillary supporters.

or maybe you all like being in iraq as well. maybe you enjoy seeing your sons once every 8 months when they’re home on leave, and then a quick 12-15 months at home and they’re back over there on their 3rd, 4th, possibly 5th tours.

you do understand that by voting republican out of spite, you are not getting back at obama? you are perpetuating the filth that has been our government, foreign policy, economy, etc..you are affirming that the last 8 years haven’t been that bad and we can endure another 4 years under the same leadership that got us where we are today.

a vote for mccain is not something to take lightly just because your pride is hurt. a vote for mccain is the complete opposite of what hillary stands for. that’s why it was so close between her and obama…they are nearly identical.

but again, it’s cool. vote out of spite. that will surely make this country better off in the long run.

By COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall

August 25, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Dear American Citizens and the mass media of U.S.A.

As a concerned disabled American Veteran and American citizen, I consider it my duty and responsibility to bring following critical characteristics of so called Maverick McCain to you for proving me wrong or right.

“The citizens of the United States of America have the ultimate responsibility to elect the ” Right Candidate with the right temperament” to lead our nation’ to address our nations present and future moral, democratic, economic, educational, health care, energy, military, and foundational soul of our nation.

In my firm professional opinion that the media should help the common voter to explore and discuss following attributes of Hon. Senator McCain.

If your answer to the above questions is yes then recommend and vote for him.

But in my professional. political, and personal opinion that vote is against the common interests majority of American people, against the world humanity, continuation of status qua and possibly dangerous world order.

Long live U.S.A and its democratic people and their common sense.

COL.. A.M. Khajawall [Ret] MD., Colonel, USAR / MC Combat Stress Control[Ret], Disabled American Veteran and Iraq Freedom team.

By marko

August 25, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

RealityKing? Why isn’t Obama leading by double digits? A black man named Barack Obama is leading for christ sake. I don’t think the christain right would reconize a real honest to god miracle if it left denture marks on their buttocks.

By B-American

August 25, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Since John McCain and Cindy McCain are so family oriented Why are her relative living in poverty? She has two half-sister she does not help and seemingly denying. She refers to herself as an only child. Her brother-in-law said that he would not vote for McCain.

Where is the family love and why not give one of those homes to her sister who really needs help.

By RealityKing

August 25, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Why are middle class democrats having such a hard time supporting Obama? 27% of democrats are voting for McCain.. What’s up with that??

By You got to be kidding me

August 25, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Poor terri, don’t you know how it works? If Obama wins, Hillary won’t have a chance until 2016! You see, the Democrats (as well as the Republicans) automatically nominate their incumbent President for a second term. If McCain wins, in four years, should we have more of the status quo, then Hillary has a better chance of being nominated to run against McCain’s bid for re-election. Now had Hillary been chosen as VP on the ticket, she would still have to wait until 2016 yet, she would have a very strong shot at the nomination since traditionally the vice president is the choice to keep the party in power due to being in the spotlight for 8 years and definite name recognition! Joe Biden has attempted to get the nomination for president twice, you don’t think he is planning on giving it a go again in 8 years? Hillary and her supporters are well aware of this… that is why many of them are quite likely to jump ship to McCain! I said it as soon as I heard it, This choice might very well be Obama’s fatal mistake!

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Middle class democrats don’t have enough confidence that Obama will make any significant change if elected. Overall, for most of America, McCain seems like a safer choice. Not better choice, just safer.

By marko

August 25, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Earth to RealityKing. I have no idea where your statistics come from, but if McCain has 27% of the democratic vote why isn’t he leading by double digits?

By is it true

August 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, in Federal Court

What is going on here! Is it true that Obama was born in Kenya Africa. Is it true that there are no records of his mother giving birth to him at any hospital in Hawaii.

Is it true that his Grandmother, and half-sister have said he was in fact born in Kenya.

Is it true that Republicans have records to prove Obama was born in Kenya.

And is it true that he was registered as a citizen of Indonesia as a Muslim.

Is there any truth to any of this. Where is the major media on this story. Have they investigated this. Has any of the above been proved untrue.

If any of the above is true this is very serious.

What’s up!

By Red

August 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

To B-American - you have no idea what kind of childhood Cindy McCain had with her half-sisters and it’s entirely possible that Cindy McCain has tried to help them in the past. Unfortunately, you can help some people until you go broke and they will never help themselves, continuing to live in poverty or whatever kind of mess they have managed to make for themselves. Get a grip and don’t judge her until you have walked in her shoes. Not everyone gets along with their own families, especially step-families.

By kreedham

August 25, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

It works both ways. Wait till McCain picks his running mate. There’ll be an Obama ad. When it’s all said and done these ads will be forgotten.

Hillary does have a lot to say about the election. If she can convince her supporters to get behind BO then she will come out fine. If her support is lukewarm and he loses I don’t see her getting the nomination in 2012. If she really wants to run again her best bet is to go all out for Obama and then Obama loses.

By Stephen

August 25, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

To COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall - GREAT POST

John McCain, at 71 years old, is too old to be an effective President. Even when you listen to what he has to say, it sounds (his voice) as if his body is beginning to shut down like many older people do when they reach his age.

This year, I am hoping that many knowledgeable Americans will rise above the negative attack ads. The fact that someone may have had an affair (their personal business), smoked drugs when they were in their teens/early twenties, etc. should have a very limited impact on who that individual might be currently, especially when we’re talking about so many years later.

If I remember correctly, the Bible even states that WE ALL HAVE SINNED so lets not get too righteous and point fingers and condemn without realizing that anyone can change and become a better person.

By Billie

August 25, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

There’s a simple explanation for Biden’s change of opinion about Obama’s readiness to be Commander-in-Chief: he (Biden) has learned more in the ensuing months about the depth and breadth of Obama’s character, judgment and vision. Based on continuing information, he has changed his mind. That’s called “intelligence” — updating one’s perspective based on new information. Ta da.

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Is it true, are you asking me these questions? If so, why?

By spoosu

August 25, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Ah, America the beautiful! What a Country we have built. We still have racism, prejudice, whatever you want to call it. All politicians are liars and will do anything to get into office. The best thing to do is pick your poison. This Country was built by immigrants from Ireland, Germany, Italy, Africa, Mexico, anyone that came through Ellis Island and came from slavery. The color of a persons skin, their age, religion, ethnicity, etc will always play a factor in how we perceive one another. We are all ignorant. The Beautiful thing about this country is that we all get a vote, so pick your poison! I vote for the candidate that best represents my views, my icome status, and that gives my family the best chance to survive in society and so should everyone else. If we all respected one another’s opinion this country would be great again! God bless America! Let man be a lie and God be the Truth!

By Pat

August 25, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

I sure hope Obama’s teleprompter doesn’t go out on him during the convention. The man can’t form a sentence without one. How will he speak with other world leaders without his words prepared in advance for him???

http://www.cafepress.com/nobamarx

By AH

August 25, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Why is this D-bag Col. AM Khajawall posting here. I see his crap on all kind of blogs on the internet and it is the exact same post over and over. Go crawl back under the rock you were under.

By RealityKing

August 25, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

If McCain picks a women. This race is over…

By Gram

August 25, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

michelle…if your son is in the military and you don’t get to see him, don’t blame the war. He wasn’t drafted. He JOINED the military. Did he think he was going to sit in his fatigues and play checkers all day here in the USA?

By D-knowledge

August 25, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

How in the world could you vote for an old guy when you need a young vibrant person to get things back in shape in this country? Yes, Im african american! Also, why do white supporters of McCain keep saying we use the race card when they are using the race card more themselves. It is about intelligence not about race! Obama is the best choice for president!

By Me Again

August 25, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

If what someone did in their teens and twenties (not that long ago for Obama) has nothing to do with whether they are qualified to be president, why did you come down on Bush for drinking in college?

By Susan

August 25, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

WHY is Obama the better pick? Because he has less that a few weeks of active participation in the Senate? (Read his record.) Is it because he keeps saying he is going to “change” things? I have YET to hear what he’s going to change. Give me ONE good reason (other than his race, and he’s NOT black…he’s black AND white) why he should run our country. It can’t be experience.

By Peadawg

August 25, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

D-knowledge:

Why are you voting for Obama? What are his views on war, economy, gas, health care, etc.? And don’t say b/c McCain is old…

The reason people say ya’ll play the race card is because there were soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many blacks that all of a sudden registered to vote just b/c their man is running.

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Hey Me Again, Bush’s drinking must not have been that important if he go elected twice. So what is your point? Actually, that proves the other poster’s point, don’t you think?

By Me Again

August 25, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

How did we get here?…you completely missed my point. If you are going to condemn Bush for his drinking, why are you going to ignore Obama’s drug use?

By Me Again

August 25, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Let’s get down to the important issues here. What experience does Obama have? As the other poster said, what is he going to change, and have you checked his record in the Senate?

Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama: * He voted against banning partial birth abortion. * He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. * Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government. * In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing. * Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair.. * Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college. * His religious convictions are very murky. * He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. * Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations. * Opposed the Patriot Act. * First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform.. * Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers. * Supports universal health-care. * Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. * Supports granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants. * Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants. * Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform. * Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. * Wants to make the minimum wage a ‘living wage’. * Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 2 51 votes. * Is a big believer in the separation of church and state. * Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid. * He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax. * He voted No on repealing the ‘Death’ Tax. * He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax. * Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded…. * He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing.

By FrankLeeDarling

August 25, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Can’t wait till Obama is prez. That crusty old wanker McCain would run this country into the ground. I also would like to know how much medication the guy is on,he seems a little out of it ,christ the guy cant even tell you what kind of car he drives.

His lobbyist/aides are running his whole campaign because if you ask him about his laptop he will tell you he had a great one at the club last night

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Actually Peadawg, there were a whole lot of Black people that registered to vote during the Gore/Bush election. I can’t deny that there are many Black people registering to vote this time around just to vote for a Black person. That is undeniable.

Me Again, myself personally, I could care less about what a candidate did as a teenager and in college. Lord knows I was no saint. With me, it’s all about what you stand for now and I don’t know what eaither of these candidate really stands for. I am confused and don’t know who to vote for, because neither candidate is saying anything of substance.

By FrankLeeDarling

August 25, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Sound good Me again,cant wait.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

By Qualified??

August 25, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

I have yet to see what Obama has done to qualify him to be President of the United States???? The only “Change” he is capable of is that of his position based on the audience and the issue — the Presidency is not a “learn on the job” position!!

By FrankLeeDarling

August 25, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

The presidency is not a door prize for being a POW

By BS Aplenty

August 25, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Tuffy, the Airborne Democrat Stoner @ 9:38 Stoner, you’re supposed to release the ‘chute before you bounce off the ground…

Personally, I think the Biden VP selection makes all the sense in the world.

Here you have the quintessential overtly RACIST candidate in Barrack Obama. The same candidate Obama who, after being abandoned by his father, spent twenty years being indoctrinated by the church-going racists at the Trinity United CHURCH OF CHRIST. He who was mentored by the penultimate racial bigot, and black liberation theologian, Jeremiah Wright. Obama certainly has the racist bona fides to be a democrat presidential candidate.

Now comes, another in the Democrat litany of closet racists, Delaware’s own Joe Biden. Democrat Biden comments during the primaries on what a well-spoken house-n**** Obama is. I know, I’m not quoting, but you get the picture. And, of course, the Obama camp takes no great note of said oralized brain-fart because Obama, too, thinks the same thing - only about Biden.

So you see, the Obama/Biden ticket is a match made in Hollywierd but the ceremonies must take place at the Trinity United CHURCH OF CHRIST.

Only proper.

Obama/Biden ‘08 - THE Racist Redeem Team

By FrankLeeDarling

August 25, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

And jellybrain McCain has what to offer?

WAR MY FRIENDS LOT$ OF IT

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Hey, BS Aplenty, did Neal Bootz or Rush Limbaugh write that post for you?

By BS Aplenty

August 25, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

How did we get here?

If you don’t see a citation, then the material’s all mine.

Made you laugh and think, didn’t it.

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

No, didn’t make me laugh, but it just sounded like some Bootz/Limbaugh rhetoric. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.

By tcoach

August 25, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Why is it that democrates still do not answer the questions about Obama’s involvment with Jeremiah Wright. Because I am a caucassion male and know for a fact that I would be forced to answer for my involvment of that type. If a white politician had been going to KKK meetings, which are actually centered around christian teachings no matter how twisted, and tried to play it off as a spiritual advisor. Then say I did not know this about the man, and denounce wrights comments. It would not pass for any white politician and we all know it. Trinity United Church is nothing more than a racist cult playing as a religous entity. That is why people consistantly try to implement race into this election because people see adifference and privlages that Obama is recieving based on his race alone.

By BeBe KID

August 25, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

The POLLS have this Presidential race a dead heat. Don’t be misled because the POllS are wrong. Has anybody called you concerning your vote? And moving right along, GO OBAMA!

By BARB.

August 25, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Ok, How about this one. John McCain’s ticket, McCain/Powell, then following Condi Rice-Sec. of State, Mitt Romney head of Economy. I’ll buy that one. Obama, I am sick of him, and Biden, the scrappy Scranton, Pa boy, left at 10 years old at which point in time, the rich folk lived there, now it is number 4 on the list of non-existence. Come on, let’s call it reaching for straws. Mccain-Powell 08

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

tcoach, it’s not the democrats that need to answer the questions, it’s Obama. I don’t know if he has totally answered the questions or not, so I won’t comment on that. I will say one thing about the KKK and Trinity United Church comparison though. It is one thing to preach hate which is protected by the freedom of speech, but I have not heard of Trinity United Church going out intimidating, lynching, or hanging people because of their race, religion, or sexual preference. As much as people hate to admit, as soon as Obama put his name in as a candidate, race got involved for all colors. Some Black people voting just because he is Black and others not voting for him because he is Black. So don’t say it is just one group of people playing the race card. They are just playing it in different ways.

By Sam

August 25, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

Bill Clinton had an affair while in office, furthered by gov’t resources. When he was sued for sexual harrassment for $700,000 in the Paula Jones case, he lied under oath about the Lewinsky affair. The Lewinsky affair was relevant evidence thanks to laws and court procedures pushed by Clintonistas.

John Edwards’ affair was while he was out of office, and he and his supporters have paid the mother and child’s support.

By Sunshine

August 25, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

This country has gotten in the mess its in since the congress went democratic a couple of years ago. Most dems are so ignorant of whats going on, that they think a man with only 143 days of Congressional experience is capable of running this great country. Thank God for the Republicans and their ability to actually run the country. You poor ignorant Dems have been taken for a ride by a smooth talking candidate. When I say ‘Ignorant Dems’, I mean ignorant of the real facts. See how easily your collective minds have been deceived once again. Please tell us exactly what ‘Change’ we will get should your candidate be elected. I have only heard ‘change’. Change to WHAT???

By tcoach

August 25, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Yes How did we…, but the KKK no longer nor have they as an organization, some members may have, turned to commiting acts of intimidation. The KKK does not go around commiting mass acts of violence any longer. That is an awful part of their past of which they cannot deny. A more appropriate comparison with Trinity United Church should have been of the politically radical black panther party. Either way there has still not been an answer for everyones golden boy on why we should elect a racial radical. The reason that I incorrectly identified a group as democrates is because, anytime there is a word about the issues with wright and trinity the dems. acuse everyone of that being all we say but I feel that more is needed as a response than the speech he gave over the topic in the primaries. An Obama supporter please tell me how you can go listen to someone for 20+ years and that man even say only the comments heard on television. Tell me how anyone could sit and listen to this man and only after the media uncovers it then Obama decides to leave the church. This was his spirtual advisor. If that is the man that gives Barak Obama his spiritual guidance then why should ANy ture american vote for him. I just want one person to explain how or why you would go to and donate money to an individual that speaks about other races in that manor.

By Original Rick

August 25, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

Concerning Hillary’s supporters not voting for the Democratic nominee: Everyone needs to remember Ralph Nader’s 2000 contribution in getting Bush elected.

If you vote against Obama just because he is not Hillary, you will be placing McCain into office, whether you enter a voting booth or just sit at home!

And how many of you have actually gone to McCain’s website and read his policies? It is a little scary, especially his desire to totally kill Roe v. Wade.

Please, know your enemy.

By Hillary Rules

August 25, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Obama’s camp blew it by not picking Hillary. I will vote for McCain now, even though I don’t like him that much. Hillary got hosed by the obama people. He will not get my vote. Hillary could have easily beaten McCain—Howard Dean really protected obama by keeping the fla and michigan delegates away till the last minute.

By rightytighty

August 25, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Divided they fall.

Rush was right!! Self-centered progressives don’t understand compromise. And it sure is fun watching you guys fall all over yourselves thinking otherwise..

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

So Sunshine, what you are saying is that the Republicans have not fault in the current state of the USA? In my opinion, but parties are ignorant in some aspect and at least share equal blame in this mess we are in.

By onefreeman

August 25, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

tcoach,

I guarantee you haven’t read 1 full transcript of rev. Wright’s speeches. I know you have no idea of how many humanitarian things the church has done.

The few snippets they repeated over and over and over were designed to secure the vote of those die-hard victims of reverse discrimination.

Rev. Wright didn’t raised fuel cost from $1/gallon to $4/gallon. Rev. Wright didn’t LIE and start a war for OIL. Rev Wright didn’t send your sons to fight in Iraq and return home wounded. Rev. Wright didn’t assist in the devaluing of the US currency.

You people are too easy, all a politician have to do is tell you that you are the victim of “black” folks and you’re stand there and let them steal you blind.

Oh well, don’t blame me I didn’t vote for Bush.

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Sorry for the errors, typing to fast on the post at 2:55, but you know what I was trying to say.

By tcoach

August 25, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

one free man you are simply a joke I nevr mention any of the things that you attacked and yes when the whole story broke during the primary the first thing I did was go read 3 of his sermons, full text. They were all containing biggetry and racially motivated comments. That is so typical of Obama supporters you never defended why it is OK for one to do it and not another. I am not attacking Mr. Wright he is just a run of the mill citizen he is not running for office. So tell me why it is a good thing for a candidate to hear and after 20 years one can only imagine agree with any of the hate speech being said in that church. If you still don’t think the Obama’s are racist go read his wife’s senior thesis paper. I quote hear ‘from this day forth I will do whatever is in my power for the betterment of the black race”. Those are the same things that Nazi and skin heads say only it is about white people guess that makes it all differnt. Equal means equal not ok for one not another.

By mc

August 25, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

I think it’s funny how the obama spin machine is playing this out…

Not working for this liberal dem. I have spoken with friends (White/hispanic) from MN to Ca and they are all voting McCain (but not saying it publically)…for me I do not need polls when I know the reality of the real world…they are not voting obama

HRC was shafted in the caucus fracus system - why was that never covered?

By BT fan

August 25, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Being a conservative since Ike, Cynthia makes me feel like a criminal(her main objective) when I occasionally read her racists columns. How far can she go with Cox losing advertisers and subscriptions because of her left wing liberal agenda in a declining ajc?

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Keep in mind that I am undecided, but mc, if you don’t mind me asking, are your friends voting for McCain or against Obama?

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

Either way, the bottom line is that come November, John McCain will be our next president and anyone that doesn’t know that is delusional. I agree with mc in that the polls don’t mean a thing. Even the Obama supporters that I know say he doesn’t have a chance in hell in becoming the next president.

By Blog Police

August 25, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

The parallels with Reagan/Bush in 1980 are numerous. Voodoo economics?

McCain can say “voodoo” about Obama now and it could stick, I mean, Obama did spend time in the voodoo capital of the world, the phillipines, right?

Voodoo socio-economics! Voodoo Obama!

Voodoo! Voodoo! Obama! Change for the Voodoo! Hope for Voodoo! Voodoo Hope!

Voodoo Change!

I think this has legs folks. New meaning to the term “campaign pins”.

bwa

By onefreeman

August 25, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

tcoach,

There has never been one charge of racism or discrimination against the church, Rev. Wright, Barack or his wife. She should do everything she can to help ‘black’ people, she’s ‘black’. The first thing you all say is ‘black’ people aught to cleanup their neighborhoods. Then when one say they want to help their people, then they are racist.

Please send me the quotes where any of those peple said, “only blacks should vote”, “whites should go back to Europe”, “whites should be excluded from education”, “only blacks should be elected to office”.

You can’t be changed, it goes too deep. I understand, I was born and raised in the South. Just think, 40 years from now, most Americans will look like Barack. Then maybe, real issues like economy, education, environment and other dull things will be discussed and not what a preacher said.

Focus on Rev. Wright while BP and Halliburton will robbing you and sending your children off to die for their profits..

By Rufus Paige

August 25, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Smart people listen up! Joe Biden was running for the presidency to win therefore he will say things to win. McCain will say things to win as well. This is what you do when you want to win something. Everything that Biden has said in the past is in the past. Two forces have come together to get things back on track. All Hillary supporters that are true to the Democratic party we love you. Its team work now and we all need to come together. We will win this election so we all can have a better life. Dont let these ads or the media affect what we really need and thats Bush out of office. And you know we dont need his twin to replace him.

By Rufus Paige

August 25, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Obama will be our next president of the USA.

By FrankLeeDarling

August 25, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Jelliy brain McCain will never win. only a small fraction of people are stupid enough to vote for the mushheaded old man.The rest of us see right through the desperate BS the McCain crowd is flinging.

By AJ

August 25, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

If you are a Hillary supporters that will jump ship to McCain, DO NOT whine when you have 4 more years of George Bush’s policies if McCain wins.

By BS Aplenty

August 25, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

onefreeman @ 2:55

You should visit the Trinity United CHURCH OF CHRIST web-site. You’ll note they sell two books, and only two books, both written by James H. Cone. Both volumes are “interesting” reads. It will certainly enlighten you on the church’s adopted black liberation philosophy. And if you have some question as to whether TUCC truly adopted this philosophy, then I would say that if a religious organization like TUCC is specifically selling only these two books, then the congregation is endorsing the philosophy (they don’t sell Bibles).

It appears that what we’ve seen in the press of Rev. Wright’s speeches is the tip of a very ugly iceberg. [So ugly, in fact, that one prominent former member left(http://www.newsweek.com/id/135392). I think Winfrey’s departure indicates that the racist vitriole coming from the pulpit was more than just an occasional “snippet.” The Newsweek article speaks volumes about one former member’s discomfort with the Cone-inspired racist message coming from the pulpit. That, unfortunately, cancels out a great deal of good the church may otherwise have done.

At the end of the day, after all the details are considered, the issue I have with Obama isn’t why he left this racist indoctrination camp, but, rather, why did it take him so long? It’s his judgement that seems to be impaired (until the cameras focus on it, anyway).

Maybe Oprah should run for president.

By michelle

August 25, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

gram:

first of all, my brother (not son) is in the army because he was required to do so to pay the government back for his school….before any of this iraq crap started. he is now on his 2nd tour, but if mccain is elected, he will undoubtedly be deployed once again for an unnecessary 3rd, possibly 4th tour. and if he doesn’t go back to iraq, he will probably go to either afghanistan or iran. afghanistan i can live with because it was necessary. iraq is/was not, and iran will be another unnecessary “obligation” should the warhawk get elected.

but i digress…..you’re simply dodging the question or shifting focus by your answer. i know the military is voluntary. but we shouldn’t involve ourselves in unnecessary conflicts just because some people like war.

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

FrankLeeDarling, you are delusional my friend. McCain is going to win just by the fact he has his hardcore supporters and then there are those who are going to vote for him simply because they don’t want Obama to win. If you don’t believe me, listen to some of the hardcore Hilary supporters, some posting on this blog.

By onefreeman

August 25, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

BS,

Keep focusing on Rev. Wright.

By Grammerian

August 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Does not each of you understand what the little red squiggle under a mistyped or misspelled word mean? It is not a special effect: just right click and your computer will offer you the correct spelling.

Because, after all, how you write and speak is how you present yourself to the world. And the world is judgmental.

By You got to be kidding me

August 25, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

The funny thing about abortion is that, for the most part only white people use it as a form of birth control. Black and hispanics will keep having them because it gives them more money from the government to whom they pay no money!

By michelle

August 25, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

is it true:

IF it’s true that obama was born in kenya, his mother is american, making him an automatic american citizen. NEXT..

IF he was previously muslim (which he was not…google your answers instead of getting your info from FOX NEWS), gosh, there’s this little thing called CONVERTING, which people do all the time. he is christian, the smear has been debunked by the new york times. NEXT…

any other “points” you want disproven?

By ncgreybr

August 25, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

“Hillary Rules” said

“Obama’s camp blew it by not picking Hillary. I will vote for McCain now, even though I don’t like him that much. Hillary got hosed by the obama people. He will not get my vote. Hillary could have easily beaten McCain—Howard Dean really protected obama by keeping the fla and michigan delegates away till the last minute.”

Let me ask you “Hillary Rules”, are you willing to let a woman’s right to choose what happens to her own body go down the drain because you are having a hissy fit and voting for McCain out of spite? If McCaiin wins, he has already said he will pack the Supreme Court with more conservative judges.

I was also for Hillary. She would have made a FINE President…as good as Obama and possibly greater…BUT she came with a lot of baggage. The baggage that Obama comes with is baggage that Republicans are throwing on him. She carried her own. There are people in Washington that NEVER would or will EVER work with her but they just might work with Obama and, let’s face it, they have almost the same wants and desires when it comes to what happens to America.

McCain has none of those wants or desires.

Don’t throw your vote away out of spite. We have a chance of digging our way out of what the Republicans have gotten us into. Don’t give us another 4 years fo sludge to clean up!

By How did we get here?

August 25, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Grammerian, I don’t know what version of this AJC blog you are using, but my version doesn’t show where spelling errors are. This might just be me. So what if people make a couple of errors, I think most people get the point Mr/Ms Perfect. Now get back on topic.

By Bitter EX democrackkk

August 25, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

This democrackkk convention is going to be PURE COMEDY this week!!!

Dont underestimate the racist Clintonistas…I suspect they have a trick up their sleeve…

NObama was smart not to pick her in light of their string of unsolved MURDERS haunting them!

By FrankLeeDarling

August 25, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Truly you cant believe McCain is gong to win.

how did we get here ? the policies of people like BUSH =McCAIN. people know this and are not going to vote for another republican

the only way the republicans can win is to cheat and I fully expect them to try

the republican party is morally bankrupt

By Fred

August 25, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

I served in the Army and there is KNOW WAY you can convince me that someone as functionally illiterate as COL. [retd] A.M.Khajawall made Col. in ANY branch of America’s military. Setting that aside though……

To several of you: where in that blog did Cynthia bring up race? Oh wait, she DIDN’T.

Sen. Obama is seen as weak or inexperienced on Foreign policy. What commitee does Sen. Biden chair? Any guesses?

From personal questions of life long WHITE Democrats, I know many that say they won’t vote for Obama because of the color of his skin. FACT. From personal questions of new BLACK voters, they registered and voted for Obama because he IS black. FACT. FACT that everyone pretends doesn’t exist is that Obama’s skin color DOES matter. Not to me though. My fat old redneck independent a* is voting for Obama because i’m tired of the Pubs. FACT. Shame folks, black and white, can’t get over the skin color thing.

By ROBERT

August 25, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the office of president. John McCain’s eligibility was established in 1964, when courts ruled Sen. Barry Goldwater was eligible although he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was a U.S. territory. BOTH MCCAIN’S PARENTS WERE U.S. CITIZENS, AND HIS FATHER WAS A MILITARY OFFICER SERVING OUR COUNTRY OVERSEAS AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH.

And, even as the controlled liberal media continues to ignore the ineligibility of Obama, it will not go away. While few doubt that the Democrats will manage to pull off his nomination at the convention, all remain poised to view the legal performance.

The first hurdle will be having Obama produce his birth certificate, which so far he has refused to do, and prove that he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961,as he has always claimed. Once he does produce a birth certificate, it will be easy to verify the certificate with hospital records. There is speculation that his American mother may have brought him to Honolulu shortly after his birth in Kenya, but no proof of that has been shown.

According to the law on the books at the time of Obama’s birth, the office of president requires that a candidate be a natural citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents. Since he was not, should it be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii, as claimed, he is ineligible without further debate. But assuring that he was born there, he has another problem.

According to our constitution, U.S. law very clearly states: ‘If only one parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of one’s birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for a minimum of 10 years, five of which must be after the age of 16.’ And therein lies Obama’s new problem.

Barack Obama’s father was never a U.S. citizen.

Interestingly, there isn’t much paperwork on the marriage of Obama’s parents, and this has a few researchers speculating that it never took place at all. On page 27 of ‘Obama: From Promise to Power’, David Mendell writes: ‘Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama’s maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married.’ He also notes that Obama’s father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation. This also would suggest that there may never have been any legal marriage by Obama’s parents at all, but the Constitution does not ban an illegitimate child from the White House, as long as he was born inside the U.S.

Obama’s mother was born in Kansas and was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she satisfied the citizen requirement for 10 years, she was not a citizen for at least five years prior to Obama’s birth. In essence, the mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, two years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already three years old at the time his mother turned 21.

Technically, Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen, but that, of course, would disqualify him from holding the office of president. If the allegations are accurate, America could install in January of 2009 a new president who is not even a U.S. citizen, neither born nor naturalized.

It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate.

If he cannot satisfactorily do so, he should be deemed immediately ineligible to hold the office of president.’

By Just give me the opputurnity

August 25, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Just give me the opputurnity to sit in the room or Hilliary supporters. They would have to come up with a sound judgement as to why they will not vote for Obama. Using “inexperience” will not fly because I just went throught eight years of experience. The county is worst off.

Using “I don’t know him” argument will not fly either, because all you have to do is read. Stop listening to these polls and negative ads.

Using “they stole the election from Hilliary”. Please don’t use this one, because I will eat you alive.

I suggest that you all use sound judgement and get over the fact that Hilliary lost.

By michelle

August 25, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

**By Me Again

August 25, 2008 11:56 AM

Let’s get down to the important issues here. What experience does Obama have? As the other poster said, what is he going to change, and have you checked his record in the Senate?**

yes, let’s get down to these important issues you’ve brought up…

He voted against banning partial birth abortion.

some of us believe that the government has no business deciding what we do with our bodies, afterall, they do not own our bodies.

He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions.

because i’m sure the parents are thrilled to death to support another child when their own minor child can’t support themselves. are you ready to support minor parents?

Supports affirmative action in Colleges an