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Blacks subdued about Obama win?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
St. Simons writer Tina McElroy Ansa says the reaction among African Americans to Barack Obama’s nomination clinch was subdued, considering its historic nature.
“I must still wonder why I, like so many of my brothers and sisters, am still hesitating to light the fireworks, unequivocally celebrate this milestone in our multicultural combined journey for what it says about our country and our citizens,” she writes. “Am I just too afraid to hope? Too jaded to believe? I hate to even consider it, but am I such a whipped dog that when I’m allowed a comfortable spot in the sun and a gentle smile, I’m too cowed to accept it, to believe it, to dare hope?”
Has the reaction been subdued and if so, why?
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By jinx
June 11, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this
How about not celebrating the fact that he is black but a person that can untite and excite an entire country.
By Barack Hussein Obama
June 11, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
President Barack Hussein Obama:
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
By Manny
June 11, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
That’s simple. Obama is still fighting- trying to win the White House. So the brothers and sisters that I’ve talked to were relieved when he won, but they are seeing this guy as a guy that can unite the country.
But as long as the political fight is a fight where race or gender is a demographic, there’s still a lot of work to do.
By Heidi Adams
June 11, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
Why are we always trying to put negative remarks about black people in the paper. In every household that I know of, we were up to 12 midnight capturing every word, statement and commentary regarding this HISTORIC night. Maybe it was just you and your friends that were asleep and unconcerned. Please grow up and stop using the media for negative portraits of us.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Perhaps they have all read “Dreams of my father” and now understand what a con-man Hussein obamee truly is.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Ive got news for the ignorant masses. Hussein obama isnt black. Hussein obama is multi-racial.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Ive got news for the ignorant masses. Hussein obama isnt black. Hussein obama is multi-racial.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this
Hussein obama is a waste of time. Just review his voting record in the IL State Govt…he basically did nothing and thats probably because he knows nothing more than how to be a con-man.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Hussein obama is a waste of time. Just review his voting record in the IL State Govt…he basically did nothing and thats probably because he knows nothing more than how to be a con-man.
By Bill
June 11, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Oh please, you’ve never been beaten like a dog. And how about celebrating how he plans to take us into Marxism and take away our freedom while running more business with out of this country with excess taxation and make more sheeple dependent on government.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Hussein obama…the black Jesus Christ…
“He can save us from ourselves.” “We are all Husseins obamas sheep.” “Lead us obama as we are all too stupid and ignorant to think independently.” “Raise our taxes obama…its the right thing to do.”
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Hussein obama…the black Jesus Christ…
“He can save us from ourselves.” “We are all Husseins obamas sheep.” “Lead us obama as we are all too stupid and ignorant to think independently.” “Raise our taxes obama…its the right thing to do.”
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Obama = Jimmy Carter with a tan.
By Wdr
June 11, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Tina,
While I myself don’t feel that I’m subdued, I do express the same apprehension, simply because of the negative, racial comments you hear and read in various forums. The most disappointing comments are those you hear or read when people say they will not vote for Senator Obama simply because he is “Black.” They make excuses like “he has no experience”, or “he is a Muslim”, or, for me, the best one “Why did he stay in as church, which taught hate, for 20 years”. Nowhere do these people, for one minute, address his platform; again, they simply make excuses to satisfy their own prejudice and prejudgement, never even considering doing their own research. These people are poisonous to the election process, and therefore, many Black Americans just don’t feel we have gotten there (see us for what we have to offer, as opposed to the color of our skin) yet.
Thanks for allowing me to comment on a subject that really important, if we ever expect equality in this great nation of ours.
By josh
June 11, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
im a black person and i would never vote for obama. he doesn’t say the pledge, and he’s gone to a church for 20 yrs that has a pastor that says “G D America”, instead of God Bless America. You can’t go to the church that long w/out agreeing with what your pastor says. Do ya’ll really want to vote for him just b/c he’s black…b/c theres no way i will.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
Read “Dreams of my father” where Hussein Obama rejects his white ancestry, rejects, as he states, “whitey,” etc.
Hussein has a major identity crisis.
He states outright he will side with the Muslims. Hussein wont salute the flag. And the biggest reason to stay away from this dangerous con-man? Because Jimmy Carter endorsed him.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
Read “Dreams of my father” where Hussein Obama rejects his white ancestry, rejects, as he states, “whitey,” etc.
Hussein has a major identity crisis.
He states outright he will side with the Muslims. Hussein wont salute the flag. And the biggest reason to stay away from this dangerous con-man? Because Jimmy Carter endorsed him.
By JINX
June 11, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
Bill and JimmyZ may benefit by going back to elementry school to learn english and spelling. And JimmyZ, did you read Dreams of My Father? I read it years ago and it was beautiful.
By Rivieri
June 11, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
I am very thankful when Blacks, such as those now-captured “Blue Jean Bandits,” are SUBDUED by our brave men and women in law enforcement.
By josh
June 11, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
also, he never got anything done in illinois — he has ABSOLUTELY NO experience.
By josh
June 11, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
exactly JimmyZ — this country was founded on christian beliefs. Do we really want to vote for someone who will side with Muslims? This is a christian nations for gods sake!!
By twodawgs
June 11, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
If B Obama is elected, then shot in the head and then makes a miraculous recovery, the world is in big trouble!
By Terrell
June 11, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
I would love to see President Barack Hussein Obama unite the entire BLACK NATION… and lead them all the heck back to Africa, especially since they hate America so much. Worthless pieces of flesh!
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
Perhaps blacks are suspicious that somehow, the system will find a way to bring Obama down before he has a shot at making real change.
I wonder where they would get that idea…?
Bill and JimmyZ, you seem concerned that Obama might
*Pursue an unworkable foreign policy *Dismantle our freedoms and *Wreck our economy.
Haven’t you been paying attention? The Republicans already took care of all that!
By josh
June 11, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
From Wdr: “They make excuses like “he has no experience”, or “he is a Muslim”, or, for me, the best one “Why did he stay in as church, which taught hate, for 20 years”.
I’m a black american and those r good enough excuses to not vote for him! Also, he suports gay marriage and abortion—-which r boths sins.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Jinx…your recommendation of Husseins book shows your true character.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this
Jinx…your recommendation of Husseins book shows your true character.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Poor Bill and Hillary. They spend their entire careers supporting, promoting afro-american platforms, causes etc., and just when the afro-american community is called upon to endorse Hillary, what to they do? Endorse hussein obama…now thats racism at its best!!
By Bill
June 11, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Jinx, do you even comprehend the message here. It’s not about spelling.
By zeke
June 11, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
They rightfully should feel subdued! As in all major cities where black mayors and council members have been elected simply because they are black, aggressively assisted by the federal governments interference in local issues, THEY HAVE CAUSED ECONOMIC DISASTER AND FAILURE! OBAMA WOULD, WITH HIS SOCIALIST LEFTIST AGENDA CARRY THAT FAILURE TO A NATIONAL LEVEL!! That would be fine if the only victims would be the voters who elect him, but, sadly it will affect us all and destroy the greatest country in the recorded history of the world!
By jeepersCreepers
June 11, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Most blacks do not like America…they want to change it to a socialist regime. Get the same pay the same benefits the same recognition but want you to give it to them. If you do not give it to them then you are racist. Their idea of compromise is you give up you beliefs traditions and accept their way of doing things. I guess they have not yet been proud to be American. After all they want to be referred as African American….what a joke.
By You call yourself a christian
June 11, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
The Constitution gives us the right to be able to speak freely, and it even allows us to right freely, but to make suggestions of someone being shot in the head is just plain ignorant. Although i disagree with this blog completely, the posts in it clearly explains why blacks are subdued about his victory. Its simple no matter who wins the election, Nothing will change until the morals of people like Jimmyz are changed. Jimmyz is the guy who sits in the cube next to you, or the corner office, and acts like he adores the ground you walk on, but then make post like this to express his true feelings. ….Coward…
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
But what about the Chinese-Americans, Italian-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Polish-Americans, Jewish-Americans, etc.
Why are the Afro-Americans not supporting the platforms for these other minorities? Why are they not marching in the streets for the other minorities and their individual causes? Why is Spike Lee no protesting the lack of Asian-Americans in film…where are the Asian-Americans in his films?
Very curious I must say and this lack of caring/assistance exhibitied by the Afro-American minorities to the other minorities seems…uh, racist.
Perhaps Hussein Obama will change this issue? I wonder what Hussein Obama will change…his message of change rings loud and clear from every hamlet…yet he speaks not in detail of said change.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
But what about the Chinese-Americans, Italian-Americans, Mexican-Americans, Polish-Americans, Jewish-Americans, etc.
Why are the Afro-Americans not supporting the platforms for these other minorities? Why are they not marching in the streets for the other minorities and their individual causes? Why is Spike Lee no protesting the lack of Asian-Americans in film…where are the Asian-Americans in his films?
Very curious I must say and this lack of caring/assistance exhibitied by the Afro-American minorities to the other minorities seems…uh, racist.
Perhaps Hussein Obama will change this issue? I wonder what Hussein Obama will change…his message of change rings loud and clear from every hamlet…yet he speaks not in detail of said change.
By creeperjeeper
June 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Jeepers creepers, what beliefs and traditions are you referring to? Are these christian beliefs you speak of? What traditions? Are you really that afraid. Lets be frank, as a black male, i am discourage by some of the african americans that i encounter, as well as some of the whites like you I encounter. It appears to me that you are catergorizing all african americans as the same, should i do the same for whites. NO, not at all, regardless of how ignorant you and some of your coharts on this blog appear to be, you do not speak for all of white americans. Further note, can Obama be any worse than BUSH?
By creeperjeeper
June 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Jeepers creepers, what beliefs and traditions are you referring to? Are these christian beliefs you speak of? What traditions? Are you really that afraid. Lets be frank, as a black male, i am discourage by some of the african americans that i encounter, as well as some of the whites like you I encounter. It appears to me that you are putting all african americans as the same, should i do the same for whites. NO, not at all, regardless of how ignorant you and some of your coharts on this blog appear to be, you do not speak for all of white americans. Further note, can Obama be any worse than BUSH?
By Wdr
June 11, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Josh,
I’m sure you voted for President Bush, so I have to ask you, “did you do your research?” How many times have you or someone in your circle made the comment that anyone would be better in the Whitehouse than Bush/Cheney? If you were so concerned about America, why did you vote them into the Whitehouse a second term? Now we have candidate who has “Stepped-up to the plate” and said “I promise to be that someone who will fix Bush/Cheney’s srew-up of our nation”, and all you people can come up with are your lame excuses. If you or the rest of your kind know so much about running this country, why didn’t you put your name in the hat as a Presidential Candidate? No need to answer that, because we know the answer; you are an ignorant bigot with no aspirations of doing anything in life but complaining and spreading racial hatred. By the way, with a name like “Josh”, please don’t seriously expected people to believe you are Black. True Black Americans are proud people; we insist on being part of the solution to solving American problems as opposed to your kind who are quite simply, “part of the problem”. So Josh, go back to the cave from which you came; America is moving forward, with or without you!
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Mr Christian…Hmmm…good point, not necessarily valid…then again Im probably JUST LIKE YOU : )
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Mr Christian…Hmmm…good point, not necessarily valid…then again Im probably JUST LIKE YOU : )
By JINX
June 11, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
I agree, JimmyZ clearly has a couple of screws loose. Twodawgs needs to be shot himself.
By hotlanta
June 11, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Folks like Jimmy are idiots worried about what Rev. Wright says. Rev. Wright doesn’t have the money nor the power like Michael Milken, former junk bond king, Kenneth Lay of Enron, gas, banks and mortgage companies to ruin lives or the economy with the stroke of a pen. I am HAPPY that he won.
By hotlanta
June 11, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Folks like Jimmy are idiots worried about what Rev. Wright says. Rev. Wright doesn’t have the money nor the power like Michael Milken, former junk bond king, Kenneth Lay of Enron, gas, banks and mortgage companies to ruin lives or the economy with the stroke of a pen. I am HAPPY that he won.
By jeeperscreepers
June 11, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
CreeperJeeper if you do not know the values and traditions of Georgians then you have been brainwashed by your church leaders. Whites are the monsters and you(blacks) are always the victims. Bush did not do as bad as you say he has. Remember Jimmy Carter! That was bad!!! Obama will have to pacify all the black special interests and that will lead to anarchy. No not all blacks are like that, those I call an American without the African.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
Interesting how only whites are racist and black are never racist.
Interesting how black men insist on dating white women yet if a white man dates a black woman the black men go into a rage.
Interesting how no other culture except afro-american insist on affirmative action quota enforcement.
Interesting how the BET channel promotes no other “single culture” or “minority” channels. One would think the powers that be would insist on AET…the Asian Entertainment channel.
Interesting how Ms Black America isnt considered racist, even by the NON RACIST black race. I wonder what would happen if a white female wanted to be in the Ms Black America contest.
Interesting how this year Morehouse Valedictorian is a white male and even more interesting the attitudes of his non-racist fellow students.
By Bubba from Buckhead
June 11, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
I think most of us remember the past and what’s happened to the past African American Leaders. I pray that Obama’s safe and protected in this racist country. There are some lunatics running around America screaming patriotism. Search a story on Thomas Gibison, he decided he would take his buddies on a African American hunting trip. There are some ideological idiots running around this country, who refuse to comform to change. Oh they have a name for that. Conservatives!
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
hotlanta, perhaps if you had read your mortgage contract you wouldnt have issue with mortgage company.
How typical you are with the blame game.
: )
By Wdr
June 11, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Zeke,
Where have you been living the past 7-plus years? We were a great nation, before Bush and Cheney? I don’t need to waste precious time describing all the disasters this administation has caused, because you and every American citizen already knows. And, who has it affected? Try every voter that voted for them, and, (suprise) the rest of us that did not. Your excuse is weak; you too are a racial bigot. You and Josh both need to go back to your caves; America is moving forward, with or without you!
By The good side
June 11, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
We are celebrating but the job is just half-way complete!
Josh you are funny! You must have attended his church to know every Sunday that is what Mr. Wright preached! Josh before you judge look into your into your mirror are you perfect it not please stop the hate!
It does not take experience to run this country just look at George Bush. No one has all the experience to qualify for the job of a president. That is why you assemble a great team.
That is why he beat Mrs. Clinton in strategy, money raising efforts and delegates. Quit hating on this man he is very intelligent.
I guess you are pattern after all the people you meet and is around.
I am a man and I don’t agree with a lot of thing for people I known for years but they do not shape nor form who I am. If you are real you will know who you are.
Do you really think Mr. Obama would come on the scene with people believing he is a radical.
It’s people like you who think the world should revolve around you. The world dynamics is changing and you better change with it or get left behind!
By Bubba from Buckhead
June 11, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
People don’t get into the war of words with these idiots(zeke and jimmyz) They have conservative ways. It’s impossible for them to understand what you’re saying since they’ve been programed for this mentality. See when you have a small mind and lack creativity. It’s impossible for you to understand the world is changing around you. Lack of creativity is their crime, since they fear to step outside of their comfort zone. Whenever a man hates like these two have, theirs some type of deficiency. That could mean mentally or physically.
By Pat
June 11, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
AJC you all are pitiful for letting all these comments from “JimmyZ” to be posted but when I intelluctually expressed my views on racism in Atlanta, you all said it was too much. Now you see why people say your newspaper, columnists, editors and a majority of the writers are useless!
By Pat
June 11, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
AJC you all are pitiful for letting all these comments from “JimmyZ” to be posted but when I intelluctually expressed my views on racism in Atlanta, you all said it was too much. Now you see why people say your newspaper, columnists, editors and a majority of the readers are idiots!
By Pat
June 11, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
AJC you all are pitiful for letting all these comments from “JimmyZ” to be posted but when I intelluctually expressed my views on racism in Atlanta, you all said it was too much. Now you see why people say your newspaper, columnists, editors and a majority of the readers are idiots!
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
When/if the black community disposes of their self-loathing/hatred/denial, separatists attitudes, marxists ideals ie., “we are all the same,” their progress will increase 10 fold, but not until that time.
Hussein obama is not the answer for the afro-american community.
: )
By creeperjeeper
June 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Interesting how the BET channel promotes no other “single culture” or “minority” channels. One would think the powers that be would insist on AET…the Asian Entertainment channel.
Evidently you don’t realize who owns and runs BET? You got it Viacom the same giant who runs MTV, VH1 and others. Dont suggest that blacks have any input on the programatic input into BET. To be honest i don’t know any one over the age of 35 who is happy with the content of the programming on either of the stations. But all this is besides the point. For starts can we just agree to disagree?
By BoneHead
June 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
I am confused; didn’t Obama have a white momma? Why does he only identify with being black? Does he ignore the white part of him, and his white grandparents? He must really hate white people I have never heard him talk about his mother or her side of the family, why? Is he ashamed?
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Dear Pat…Freedom of speech my dear, freedom of speech.
And BTW…Im not racist…I date many beautiful African-American women. We certainly have different views on many many issues and we discuss them in calm logical fashion. Sometimes we understand one anothers arguments and counter-points and sometimes the case is otherwise.
YET, once in the bedroom all those discussions/issues melt away into the sweet love pudding.
By michael matthews
June 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
It’s interesting that the term “Subdued” is used to describe a particular mood amongst a minority group of people, who by the way are independent thinkers. I hear a lot of comments from people who claim to know something about the life experience of an African-American, and more often than not, they have not clue as to how we function and how our diverse culture provides the back drop of the America we live in. I’ve never had the benefit of any social programs in my life; my parents were college graduates and earned their living as educators. My upbringing taught me that there are no limitations and that I was in control of my destiny, which was and forever will be directed by GOD. Celebrating the achievement of one of our own is significant because it is a celebration for so many lost lives given for the future of our people. From the slave who could only dream of being free, let alone gaining power to affect change in the world, to the soldiers of battles fought for a country that did not respect or value them! Think about that for a second, when Barack Obama is the next president, it will be the first time in the history of this country that a Black Man will have the power and authority to shape the changes of the world. We’ve had to endure ever good and bad decision from past presidents that have not always had the best interest of the African-American. We were stripped of our ancestral bond and forced to assimilate into a foreign environment. We went from being designated nothing more that property, an animal, to becoming empowered to believe in ourselves and to understand that black is beautiful and rich, passing on that great understanding to every generation. We are not subdued or dismayed; we are pragmatic and understand the full dynamic. We know why the caged bird sings.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Dear Pat…Freedom of speech my dear, freedom of speech.
And BTW…Im not racist…I date many beautiful African-American women. We certainly have different views on many many issues and we discuss them in calm logical fashion. Sometimes we understand one anothers arguments and counter-points and sometimes the case is otherwise.
YET, once in the bedroom all those discussions/issues melt away into the sweet love pudding.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
cj…point taken and thanks for the info. I will agree, in that, MTV is mostly useless as is VH1. VH1 classic does feature some very good programs, concerts, regarding 70’s musicians ie pink floyd, james brown and the like. I do enjoy the occassional BET “hell date.”
Have a nice day!
: )
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
cj…point taken and thanks for the info. I will agree, in that, MTV is mostly useless as is VH1. VH1 classic does feature some very good programs, concerts, regarding 70’s musicians ie pink floyd, james brown and the like. I do enjoy the occassional BET “hell date.”
Have a nice day!
: )
By RMG
June 11, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
All I can say is that this is really sad reading these comments in this blog. It’s a shame that people are so angry and full of hate. I can’t believe that we can’t have a discussion without calling each other names, making threats, and derogatory comments towards one another. So many of you are making such generalizations, which simply are not true and you cannot categorize people and put them all in one particular group. Please “get a life,” count your blessings and be grateful that you are alive and well.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
MM…Hussein Obama is not black. He is bi-racial. We in the white community stake our claim also.
By Georgia Black
June 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
You know something I’ll stil b…h slap you Jimmyz if I hear you talking this brainwashing bllsht to any of my sistas. You must be slow Jimmy and friends. When you rape our women, murder our leaders, jail our youth, lynch us, segregate us, riducule our leaders(Wright), stereotype us, and HATE us for no apparant reason. Yes you can call us racist. We’ve been designed to be racist. Your people created racist blacks. F…kin stupid WB. Come f..k with me on a calm discussion. I’ll get ya pnk azz upset. I bet you keep you AA women submissive too. Come f..k with me WB, I’ll be at Stats watching the game tomorrow at the bar pimp.
By Gandalf, the Grey
June 11, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
If you vote for Obama because he is black, you are a fool. If you vote for him for his rhetoric, you are a fool. If you vote for Obama because you hate Bush you are a fool. If you want higher taxes, the military broken up and made useless, govermenet ran health care, and a devasting depression vote for Obama!!!!!
By creeperjeepers
June 11, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Jimmyz, see its not hard we agree on something, no matter how different we think on other things, imagine that. Now if we can just take this approach to other areas without all the negative comments and sterotypes. I am sure there is more we agree and disagree on. Let just be mindful to take into account how everyone feels when we say negative things, and try to encourage people to be better even when they act stupid as hell.
By DMV
June 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
A am greatly concerned that it seems as if all blacks are so ga-ga over a hlaf one of them being the democratic pick they have thrown the baby out with the bath water. Do blacks not realize their man will surely double if not more than double their social security taxes and no matter how modest their 401K is he’ll raise your capitol gains taxes in a year where they are taking a beating as it is. Think before you vote. It may be a new concept for some considering the horrific voting records of the past but today is a new day. You’re wanting to elect a man that will raise your taxes and put even more and more on the downward spiral. Face it, blacks have been hit very hard with the housing crisis and foreclosures. They have lost homes and now are losing apartments because of foreclosures yet they want to elect this man simply because they think he is one of them. This does help explain how Cynthia McKinney kept getting elected. I live in a house divided by polictics. I am a die hard republican and my wife and two daughters are democrats, die hard democrats. However this year they’ll hold their noses and vote McCain because of how they feel a woman in the race was treated. They claim to know several women in the same boat. My daughter is part of an online effort to get democratic women to switch parties this one time. Obama is tanking in Florida and the Gov. of Ohio, a state he must take, embarrassed him by publicly saying he’d never consider the VP position, he was on the short list. Obama has some big problems, problems too big for Hollywood and Oprah and 12% of a voting blcok to pull him out of. Obama will not be elected. I will bet my hard earned money on ths fact. Obama will never be President of the US, never.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Ok Ga Black…thats nice…thanks for your comments and illustration of my points.
And yes…I discuss such things with all my beautiful African-American girlfriends…call it “pillow-talk,” if you will.
You, your malt liquor and the bar have a lovely day. Just dont let “da man” getcha on da way holmes.
By CJ
June 11, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
All I keep hearing is Obama black black black. He makes speeches about how proud he is to be the first black nominee, the black churches all love him, etc. I’ve even seen the interview of his black grandmother in Kenya.
I thought he was half white? I haven’t seen any interviews, pictures, or anything else about the white side of his family. Where are they? Are they in hiding? Is he hiding them?
The mystery continues…
Oh yeah - so where is the Michelle Obama tape everyone was promising? I want to see if she really said “whitey” this and “whitey” that.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
GA black…one more things and in the words of your emancipator, Abe Lincoln, “All men are created equal.”
Nuff said there.
By creeperjeeper
June 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Georgia Black, your comments are as obscene as Jimmyz. if we have leaders who can’t stand up to ridicule are they really leaders? ALthough some of your other issues are or were valid. Lets look at it this way Obama cant change all of this, but he can put superior court justices in place that can eventually swing the way this political machine operates. Honestly i don’t think he can do it in 8 years, so there needs to be a strong VP candidate to run with him, or at least a high ranking cabinet position for Collin Powell. So that he can make a run in 2016, and yes he is a repubilican but he has consistent view of how this country can be helped. Our two party system is part of the problem. If these two can lock down consecutive terms by then the political landscape can change, by the placement of judges and local politicians. We need to require more of our local and state politicians. They influence everyday life a lot more than the feds, with the exception of GAS and inflation…Dang this GAS is Murderous. ANY ONE GOT A GAS BLOG I got some stuff to say
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Ga black…instead of “hanging” out at the bar perhaps your talents could be better served elsewhere, say, the Clayton County Board of Education? Yep…I venture to guess you would be a perfect fit.
Enjoy your malt liquor : )
By josh
June 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
Gandalf, the Grey: “If you want higher taxes, the military broken up and made useless, govermenet ran health care, and a devasting depression vote for Obama!!!!!”
AMEN! there’s a reason people on the canadian border come to america for healthcare — public healthcare in canada stinks.
By Tyrone
June 11, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
I cannot wait until the Presidential Inaugural Ball to see FIRST LADY Michelle Obama shake her big, beautiful, nubian booty and BACK THAT AZZ UP at all the Haterz and white people!!!
By Get Real
June 11, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
With all these ‘comments’ (if you can call them that) its a wonder why race is such a big issue. Seems like some people are so afraid to be viewed as equals with blacks and have to find something to make them believe their better than black people. And this is 2008, glad I didn’t live in the 60s. Get a grip people.
By CYB
June 11, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Until blacks have proven they can run their own communities, and clean up their own neighborhoods,(i.e. Detroit, D.C.,etc.) they have no business trying to run the country for the remaining 88 percent of the population. Prove yourselves first in your own communities and families, and then opportunities will come. Obama is NOT the answer…a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Americans had better wake up before November!
By Georgia Black
June 11, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Just like I thought, all talk no substance. When you stop snorting coke or doing your meth, you should try talking to some real blacks. See some of us fear whites and they do strange things to get along. Well I don’t care who you are white, green, purple, or orange if you have a problem with me for no reason and you’re man enough to comfront me. Then we can chop this up like men, if you talk a lot of junk and can’t back it up, then you might catch a Kimbo Slice in the jaw. Yes I’m violent, thanks to your peoples barbaric ways. I’ve adopted a violent behavior which I’ll be glad to show you pimp.
By Mr T
June 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Shut up all tha jibba jabba. I pity the fool that votes for Barack.
By Mr T
June 11, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
I pity the fool that doesnt like Michelle Obamas bubble butt!
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Show it to ya mama for all I care, Ga black.
“Yes I’m violent, thanks to your peoples barbaric ways.” Another example of the blame game.
By Free to be me
June 11, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
To Terrell and jeeperscreepers,
You guys are just plain ignorant. There is no reason to argue this point. You are stupid. Who hates America? We have been here longer that you people have been here. I have a white slave name and generations of my people before me have been in this country so I am more American that your racist behinds can ever dream of being. All we want is a level playing field. No hand-outs. Can you say that is how you see it? How old are you guys? Did you just slide out of your mama’s womb with a blindfold on? Dummies!!!!!
By WTF
June 11, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
The race to the nomination was so long and drawn out that it smothered some of the excitement of the moment.
As far as this exchange of ideas on this blog, it’s all par for the course. There is not one comment that has surprised or shocked me. I sometimes feel llike I am stuck in that Groundhog’s Day movie.
By Jim
June 11, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Tyrone, you sound like you have a 50-50 chance of seeing Mrs. Obama on anything, you’ll probably be in jail that day. Go back to New orleans Tyrone, we have enough thugs here already.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Ga black…you are a funny dude.
By T
June 11, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Can we just share the moment? A multi- racial, non white got the democratic nomination. Stake your claim JimmyZ. Feel proud. Remember not all Blacks voted for Rev. Al Sharpton. Even the black community wasn’t ready for that. We didn’t all run out to vote for Jessie Jackson. It might have something to do with the man himself. Not the color of his skin. Does anyone know what the qualifications for the presidency are? He meets those. If you want something done about any of the issues at hand, understand that it takes money to do that. I am not to sure but I do not think we have a lot of it in our budget. So where do we get it? hmmm. Oh, thats right from the people in the form of taxes. However, we could just leave things the same and keep complaining. Thanks for playing.
By jeeperscreepers
June 11, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
By Free to be me…..level playing field! The first thing out of your mouth is racist…and you do not know what a slave life is like….you are not a victim…I owe you nor your family nothing…you get a free college education AND get affirmative action appointments….wow you just want a level playing field!!! I wish you the best. I hope you make it. I just want you to do it own your own.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
I fear many of my black brotha’s and sista’s are gonna be dissappointed come Nov 15th.
By josh
June 11, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Hey T, the only qualifications he meets r the one that r required to run like being born in the u.s. other than that he is not a good candidate.
By T
June 11, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Thanks for my daily dose of racism. Oh, but thats right you are not a racist. You just prejudge an entire race because of the ones who make bad choices. We can not clean up our own communities? Interesting. So, that is a seperate but equall idea. HHmm. I’ll have to send these comments to my friends serving you in Iraq. That way they know just how much you really support them and how their sacrafice keeps your first ammendment right alive. Hopefully all of the law enforcement, fire, and medical personnell read this. That way they to know the people they help every day. Thanks again for playing.
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Qualifier, Josh: There’s a reason RICH Canadians come here for healthcare… because if you’ve got the money, the U.S. has the best high-tech treatments available!
But only if you’ve got the money. If you’re middle-class or (God help you) poor, you’re SOL in America.
By T
June 11, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Josh Respectable answer. I appreciate it. In all honesty he kinda scares me. Then so does Mccain. Still trying to figure out the lesser of the two evils.
By josh
June 11, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Copyleft: who the hell would want a doctor helping u that was appointed and paid for by the government?
By josh
June 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Copyleft: who the hell would want a doctor helping u that was appointed and paid for by the government? not me! what about medicaid? doesn’t that help the ones who can’t afford it?
By The good side
June 11, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this
Mr. Josh,
I guess assembling a great campaign team that beat the prohibitive favorite does not count!
Sometimes we dislike a person and we just do not want to give credit where credit is due!Huh Josh!
Keep on Hating while We PASS YOU BYE!
By josh
June 11, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
T: that the thing this year…you gotta pick the lesser of the 2 evils in this election. Both of them scare me.
By josh
June 11, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
T: i 100% agree w/ you. neither McCain or Obama are good candidates. Both scare me as well.
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Which we wind up paying for, through government. So what’s the difference, except that our current version is vastly more expensive and inefficient?
By the way, I’m not too upset about being protected by government-paid police and soldiers, or defending my rights in government-funded courtrooms. Why the panic over government, rather than profit-biased insurance companies, paying the doctors?
By bigboom fromNY
June 11, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Contrary to all the color issues posted here. I feel that whether Obama wins or not, this has been a historic event for all races. 1) A Afro-American candidate has been chosen to run for the president. 2) not only afro- Amer. voted for this man. People of all races voted for this man. Proving the fact that we as a NATION can overcome the blackcloud of Race in america.
By emack06
June 11, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
I believe whites hate america. Thats why they help elected that Barack Obama fella. They know he gonna change this country by takn all the money from the blacks and given it to the whitees. He wone of them fachism fella thats gonna take our rights.
By josh
June 11, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
The good side:
i assume ur talking about giving credit to obama? why would i give credit to a man that turns his back on the flag and doesn’t say the pledge, among other things…? Like i said, i’m a black man but there’s no way i’d for for obama.
By Truth
June 11, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Can anybody tell me what Obama has accomplished and what good he will bring to America? Remember the word FREEDOM before you respond…..
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Josh: Don’t tell me you believe that nonsense about Obama “turning his back on the flag” and “refusing to say the Pledge”? C’mon, that was exposed as a bunch of right-wing lies and fearmongering MONTHS ago.
By Reality Check
June 11, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Obama yo mama didn’t raise you right, when you were young she must have tied your turban too tight….she left you too long with all those Arabian Knights….Obama yo mama didn’t raise you right.
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Can anybody tell me what Obama has accomplished and what good he will bring to America?
Certainly: http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Barack_Obama.htm
By Wdr
June 11, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Josh,
You need to get off of it; you are not black.
By bigboom fromNY
June 11, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
By Truth -Can you tell us what Bush has done for america. I know I dont want another 8 years of record foreclosures, unemployement, TAXES, WAR, and dishonest gov’t leadership. No one is saying Obama is the truth, but we definetly need some relief from the turmoils of the current administration.
By Proud Afric00n-American
June 11, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Obama will punish the racist white people of this country and give them what they deserve.
By Tom
June 11, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
It’s not only blacks that are subdued. He brings nothing to the table. Look at his (non-existant) record.
By Homer
June 11, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
Copyleft just got slapped around so bad on the gun blog he/she/it left and now he/she/it is here. Who is next for Obama’s pick for VP since all the ‘strong moderate white male choices’ are running from him like he has the plague. Next we’ll see a light skin black man as the only choice he can get and Obama will be swearing the guy is really white. If Obama doesn’t get a moderate white male as his his running mate, he deosn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected and his people know that. He better hope the dying and bloated killer Ted Kennedy lives another few months, pick him before he is toes up…that’s about all he has left.
By Truth
June 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Obama will punish the racist white people of this country and give them what they deserve
What can I say….
By Truth
June 11, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Hey Copyleft… I just read over what you had a link to… I can honestly say that I am more scared for our country now than I was 5 minutes ago.
By kitty
June 11, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Please! Find another topic to use to stir up controversy and get people to write in and help you to keep your job. What and how much contact have you had with blacks to come up with this question? You’ll never know the answer to that question because most blacks will not write in to give you any idea about their feelings on what you’ve asked. Read some of the answers and you’ll see who came from underground to answer.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
I have faith in the afroamerican community. They realize obama is qualified and not regret getting caught up in the hype.
Come Nov 14th they do the right thing and either vote for McCain or not vote period.
TIA afroamerican community.
By BeeJay
June 11, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Don’t you love those who claim they know people “who will not vote for Senator Obama simply because he is ‘Black’? I’ve heard NO one make that claim. The same poster says, “[These people] make excuses like ‘he has no experience’, or ‘he is a Muslim’, or, for me, the best one ‘Why did he stay in as church, which taught hate, for 20 years’.” These reasons are not only true, they are valid reasons not to vote for him. Be blind if you don’t know how to remove your blinders, if you refuse to open your closed mind, but I want a president who HAS experience, who doesn’t align him or herself with alienating racists, and frankly who doesn’t insist on distributing “wealth” in a country that is NOT a communist, socialist, or fascist country. The funniest, truly funniest statement by the poster is “Nowhere do these people, for one minute, address his platform.” Excuse me, WHAT platform? All I hear from Obama is government subsidized programs - take from them, give to you. That is not a platform. That is rotten tomatoes for hard-working, motivated, ethical citizens who refuse to agree to support the non-working, unmotivated, dishonest segment and illegal immigrants. Would lower class, uneducated laborers agree to give up what they rightly earned? Neither do we.
By Truth
June 11, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Hey Big Boom from NY….
Foreclosures- So people buy houses they cannot afford and this is the presidents fault???
Unemployment- There is a McDonald’s down the street that is hiring. It may not be the job you want but it is a job.
Taxes- Obama wants to raise them. If you say the evil rich need to pay more taxes then your employer might not have the funds to pay you!!!
War- Freedom isn’t for wimps
Dishonesty- What politicians aren’t dishonest? But I guess Obama really never heard the racist remarks of his MENTOR Rev. Wright huh???
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
Cant we have a 6 pack of malt liquor and all just get along?
By josh
June 11, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
BeeJay:
That is best thing anyone has said on this board all day. Well said! I just wish other people opened their eyes like you. Thank you!
By Mexico03
June 11, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Jimmy Z tells it like it is. Having just finished reading all the comments made in this blog, his is the most honest. The truth hurts those who disagree with him, I for one (and 75% of WHITE America)agree with everything he says. Omaba (with the WHITE MAMA) can not make the Black people proud, hes half and half altho he doesn’t recognize his WHITE mama , hes stuck with it. He would continue to ruin America (kinda like the other past presidents before him) blacks would continue to RIOT in the streets when things don’t go their way-like WELFARE check being late,etc etc. Muslims almost rule the USA and all the other non-muslims countries they took over, and hes a MUSLIM so whos side will he take?? We know. Hillary would have been run by ole Bill( I didn’t have sex with that woman) and Mclain will keep us in this stupid WAR that ole Bush started (becaude Hussain tried to KILL his daddy) so no matter who wins AMERICA LOSES.
By Copyleft
June 11, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Truth: I’m glad that Obama’s platform terrifies you… further proof that he’s the right choice for America.
By diddy
June 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
PEOPLE, just give the man a chance!!
We are facing a very economic slow down, people are losing their jobs, and gas is nearing $5 per gallon and all you can say about the man is that he’s black and his middle name is Hussein. None of that is helping anybody. Think with an open mind and actually listen to what he has to say before you bash him.
Look at where Bush has gotten us. Why would you support 4 more years of the same thing? Think people. Just because he is not the color you want him to be doesn’t make him less qualified to become President.
By JimmyZ
June 11, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Ignore CopyLeft…he is just a black bigot.
By josh
June 11, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
hey diddy, read the posts before u tell us to give him a chance. nobody has mentioned his color or his middle name.
By Truth
June 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Diddy…
It has nothing to do with his color!!!
Why dont you actually listen to what we are saying before you bash us!
By Alan Hurtz
June 11, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
You Blog Nazis are STUPID!!! "president Bush didnt do that BAD!!! are you kidding me!! Its funny how the Nazi`s hate blacks so much that if they criticize G. Bush they are racist! I am WHITE and Bush SUCKS and has SUCKED for 8 years!!!!That hell thats been described of what we will be living with Obama….we have been living that HELL on earth for 8 YEARS!!!
By Gary
June 11, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
This is not a racial issue, but instead a class issue. Doesn’t it seem strange that the vast majority of candidates for public office are people of means. If you narrow that down to elected officials, that majority becomes even larger. During the election campaign, the candidates tell us everthing we need to hear in order to garner our votes. After they are elected, they seem to forget that we ever mattered. That’s when their true colors begin to show. Although they talk of the will of the people, they only respond to the might of the dollar. This election is unfortunately no different. The might of the dollar will prevail. I wish that this were not true but it is. In the end, the winner of this election will also serve the desires of the rich. In four years the candidates will return to woo us with their inspiring words so as to be elected and rule over us again. Same as it ever was!!!!!
By insipid writing
June 11, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
Tina McElroy’s writing as well as this AJC Opinion blog is insipid & plainfully tasteless.
Unfortunately it is an ordinary display of how opportunist journalism is today in America.
Quote from the reference above “the reaction among African Americans to Barack Obama’s nomination clinch was subdued, considering its historic nature.”
Allow me to define subdued to you perhaps it is not clearly defined in your vocabulary….
it is a lack in vitality(physical or mental strength/ force)and intensity.
Americans have verbally spoken and insisted that thd Presidential Election is not a racial campaign regardless of the nominees. We have been advised-Americans vote for your candidate of choice by their credentials and agenda.
Yet you have the audacity to speak and clearly delegate to a race that once the nomination was received the support is subdued.
My problems with that are the following 1. if it would have been any other writer from a different race would you see this article as derrogatory or because you mention “my brothers and sisters” makes it ok to you?!
Isn’t the fact that Obama was a running candidate for Presidency historic enough? Being the nomi