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Did sexism doom Hillary Clinton?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Is sexism still a potent force in American cultural and political life? Well, of course it is. But it didn’t defeat Hillary Clinton.
Her embittered supporters ought to stop whining about her loss. Complaining about misogyny will never get a woman elected to the highest office in the land. There is nothing more self-defeating for women who are trying to promote the idea of a female commander-in-chief than whiny recriminations and victimhood.
Clinton proved what some of us have always known — a woman running a high-profile race for president can be tough, tireless, savvy and resilient. She didn’t win, but she still broke barriers. Making her a victim diminishes her accomplishments.
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By Charles
June 4, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this
By being totally disingenuous and unlikable Hillary turns off way too many people - and having a philandering liar of a husband doesn’t help matters for her either. Now Barack will have to face up to the facts that he isn’t forthcoming either when it comes to his long relationships with a racist pastor and an admitted/unrepentent terrorist. It’s no wonder Hillary isn’t getting out of the race - she probably knows there are more skeletons in Obama’s closet.
By Voice of Reason
June 4, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this
Sexism didn’t doom Hillary. Hillary doomed Hillary…and Bill helped. Her sense of entitlement[“this will be over by Feb. 5th”] and now, her absolute arrogance that she won’t even concede even NOW!! She is being disrespectful. The nerve of that heifer.
Barack Obama is the nominee, not her. He has the ultimate power right now, not her. She should be kind and considerate, not acting like she’s still the leader. With her actions last night, I wouldn’t invite her to be the VP.
As Princess Diana said, “there are three people in this marriage.” that would be the case if Barack picked her. I vote no for that. He can find someone else. And these White women—if they REALLY want a change from the mess of GWB—will get on board. She lost; she needs to be gracious and magnanimous, not the catty, wicked little snake she was last night.
By Dave
June 4, 2008 7:47 AM | Link to this
Last I heard women outnumber men. I thought she had the Latino vote, elderly vote, and blue color vote. I think those who say it was about sexism are just making excuses and ignoring the fact that Hilliary has a lot of people who love her and also has a lot of people who don’t. Sexism is an excuse for a defeat.
By Jeff
June 4, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this
Hillary dug her own grave. She comes across as mean (not tough), her facial expressions when she talks are very unappealing and she always looks mad or like she’s faking her smile. Where were these feminists when E Dole ran, and why aren’t they being more encouraging to Condi Rice? And I just don’t trust her.
By Tina
June 4, 2008 7:51 AM | Link to this
I agree with Voice of Reason that sexism didn’t doom Hillary, she doomed herself. I have always found her to be a rather distasteful politician. I read a great editorial in the WSJ a week or so ago about Hillary pulling the “sex” card, and how disingenuous it was for her to do so. I didn’t vote for her not because she’s a woman. I didn’t vote for her because she and her husband (and I don’t see him sitting idly by in the Brumby rocking chairs on the upper balcony of the White House) represent more of the same; a political dynasty between the Clintons and the Bushes that needs to come to an end.
By Houckster
June 4, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this
I’m afraid that people like Charles are the reason our elections don’t produce the best people. Too many people simply won’t run for office because of all the hurtful things people will say about them.
Neither the former president nor Senator Clinton are perfect and they have borne a huge amount of abuse that they did not deserve.
As someone who supports Senator Obama, I still have a great deal of respect for the Clintons. It is important to remember that if they seem less than ideal to people it is the result of many years of concentrated hate by the Hard Right and a broadcast media that gave up fair and balanced coverage long ago.
Unless Senator Clinton takes her arguments to the credentials committee, which I hope she won’t, my hope is that she will put aside her ambitions and work hard to reunite the Democratic Party for the hard fight ahead. And it will be a hard fight. The Republican trash machine will be supercharged to retain the White House and there’s very little that Senator McCain will do to stop it. This campaign won’t be any more high-minded than the slanderous low-ball campaigns that Mr. Bush ran in 2000 and 2004.
By When in doubt BLAME SOMEONE ELSE!
June 4, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this
I can see it now. The headline in November - “Did racism doom Obama?”
By Ralph
June 4, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this
Way to start a flame war. This is crazy, it isn’t about sex or race. It is about the fact that Hillary and her husband are liars. They have lied to the public. Her husband did it under oath. Cynthia, stop wanting a female in office so badly that you are willing to put one there that has been questioned about actually killing someone.
By CJ
June 4, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this
The media, such as yourself (Cynthia), doomed Hillary’s campaign. The media tried every day in the newspapers and on TV to dismantle her campaign. During the campaign, the quantity of controversies she was directly involved in were far fewer than Obama. Most people who disliked her during the campaign carried grudges from the Clinton presidency.
It’s a shame Obama doesn’t have a political history to use as a basis for decision making. He has what, 3 or 4 years at the national level to pull from? No wonder his political career looks sounds so good - he hasn’t had time to fall flat on his face!
Rev. Wright and Friends, plus Michelle’s spouting racist remarks about “whitey” on tape (to be released sometime today, I believe) ruined the Obama family values in my mind.
I was a Hillary Clinton supporter, I still am, and I will not be voting for Obama. Plain and simple.
By Pizen
June 4, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
Hillary Clinton lost because of two basic reasons: (1) her essential dishonesty and meanness were revealed during the campaign and (2) Democrats prefer liberalism bordering on socialism as espoused by Barack Obama. Simple as that.
By Pizen
June 4, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
Hillary Clinton lost because of two basic reasons: (1) her essential dishonesty and meanness were revealed during the campaign and (2) Democrats prefer liberalism bordering on socialism as espoused by Barack Obama. Simple as that.
By doggirl90
June 4, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
I suppose if you are inclined to believe that sexism defeated Hillary then when Obama loses in November it will only be about racism. Isn’t it possible that Americans just don’t want the liberal socialism they are cramming down our throats? Isn’t it possible that people just don’t like their politics? I don’t like either candidate and it has nothing to do with gender or race.
By Dan
June 4, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
Tough and tireless perhaps, savvy ?Hardly, relilient, even less than savvy. Bill Clinton is a master of being able to lie right to your face and have you still like him. Hillary not so much, she needed to try a different tact. What did become evident in this race is the disdain that both of them feel for the common person. Hillarys biggest problem is her transparency, and the scariest part, albeit least surprising, is that you can see right through her with nary a scrap of conscience, principles or ethics to block your view.
By Anya
June 4, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
I don’t see arrogance in not conciding a loss until all votes are in. It is complete ignorance to expect her or anyone else to/want her to admit a deficit-Until all votes are in at this point in the race. It does not matter if it is obvious she has lost or not….there is no policy that says this is TAG YOUR IT! Dignity and respect begins with your own actions… It will be even sweeter when she has to give that speech of defeat!
But…… come one people…
Clearly Barack was not a clear choice and was just as washy…washy as Clinton.
I am not a Clinton fan…nor would I give her my vote…. YES!!! Everyone has skeletons in the closet- that’s life! Saying that Barack has power! Ha!!! that’s a joke…. Barack does not have any power yet… he needs to earn that from the public….he needs to target those demographics that swing, study and see what you need to do to get that latino/hispanic vote.
And obviously acknowledge the public’s stated & unstated concerns for all social classes and express his goals, show willingness and offer your so called “CHANGE” ideas so people can set expectations and appropriate their votes accordingly to their agendas.
By doggirl90
June 4, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
“It is important to remember that if they seem less than ideal to people it is the result of many years of concentrated hate by the Hard Right and a broadcast media that gave up fair and balanced coverage long ago.”
Show me an instance where the “hard right” spread a lie about the Clintons? The list of unethical, illegal, immoral, and disgusting deeds goes on and on. It is not the fault of conservative media (an oxymoron for certain!)that these deeds had a light shined on them. The Clintons brought that on themselves when they chose to lie, cheat, steal, and rape.
By Katie
June 4, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
It would be typical of people to say she lost because of her gender—that’s the easy way out. Hillary lost because she’s Hillary. She has a dishonest husband and she herself is not honest. She lost because she’s a loser.
By tp
June 4, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
One important point to emphasize from the editorial. Hillary did run a terrible campaign and she did have two men directing. The accountability for the loss lies squarely in Hillary’s lap. She chose her staff, she led the spending of money, and she is responsible. If she can’t manage the people, money, and decisions that will lead an effective campaign, then she should not be in the White House.
By SHAY
June 4, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
OBAMA WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THIS HERE UNITED STATES.
I’M SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW!!
ALL YOU OBAMA HATERS, EAT OUR DUST!!
VROOOM, VROOM!!!!!
By Angela
June 4, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Sexism for once had nothing to do with Hilary’s lose. Barack is just a better candidate. He comes across as a more honest and humble person. Hilary comes off as a liar who play a very dirty game. Unfortunately I can’t even feel the same about Bill as I once did. Congrats to Barack and Congrats to AMERICA!!
By Jane
June 4, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
And once again the American People Lose - this campaign is going to turn into a contest of the lesser of two evils - Not what the American people need or deserve.
I do not believe Obama has been totally forthcoming and that he has an agenda it will be brought to light - no one who refuses to say the pledge to our flag (there is a photo of this early on - all potential candidates have hands on heart but Mr. Obama), his wife’s comments about this being the “first” time she is proud to be an American, and the ministers, his church, et al. If you can fault Hillary for Bill then Obama can be faulted for Michelles statements as well - unless of course the same rules do not apply.
At this particular moment I am seriously leaning toward voting Republican for the first time in my life - not because I believe in McCain but because I believe he is truly the lesser of two evils.
By Save Our Republic
June 4, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Let’s pleae stop this endless propagation of the phoney “Left/Right” paradigm. There’s not a dime’s worth of true difference between “Shillary ClinTAX”, “Bacrock Obuma” and John “McAmnesty”…they’re all three puppets of the Globalist Elite. I suggest folks do some research beyond the propaganda that’s spoon-fed by the controlled “mainstream” media. The GOP and DNC are two sides of the same Internationalist coin folks! Irregardless of what “side” the coin-flips lands on…We the people keep loosing. Ron Paul was BY FAR the best candidate in decades, but the MSM was ordered marginalized him (despite his massive grassroot support). Now the only elected candidates are Dr.Chuck Baldwin (Constitutional Party) and Bob Barr (Libertarian). The American sheeple need to awake before our Constitutional Republic is no more!!!
http://www.TrueWorldHistory.info
By Clay
June 4, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
Of course sexism ended Clinton’s chances. No woman could have run with Obama’s resume—she would have been told she was way too inexperienced to be president.
By James
June 4, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
I am a Republican and McCain supporter but I am an Amercian first. I welcome a good race in this election and I feel strongly that America will get it right and my man will win, but I want to win fair and square as we use to say in the old days. I think she should bow out, her time is over and you Democrats have a new face for the party. She is still drunk with the power she and her husband once held, those days are over. I am not voting based on race, I am voting based on a smaller government and less taxes, not skin tone. I congratulate Obama on his uphill battle and victory and I am ready for the election to begin. At the end of this election my friends that are Obama supporters will still be my friends and I hope their friend, the McCain supporter is still considered their friend too, I am sure I will be.
By shang shay
June 4, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
…gas at $5 per gallon… Obama couldnt stop it..up..up and away..it is now $7 per gallon
whats that….your VROOOM….VROOM!!! went…bloot…bloot…vrooom…vrooom…vr….vr..o..o..m… ..look you ran out of gas! HA!
By Fred
June 4, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
The media took out the Clintons. The very same media that loved them so throughout the 90’s has obviously fallen for someone else, and like a jilted lover, Bill is crying foul over their unfaithfulness.
This is funny on sooo many levels.
By Roberta
June 4, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
I do not buy the sexism. Sen. Clinton lost the campaign because of poor management, negative campaigning, and because overall she showed that she can not be trusted. Also, she refused to take responsibility for her errors. She always blamed someone or something else. True, Bill Clinton did not help, but she damaged herself more when she started using “throwing the kitchen sink”. I am a woman and was a Clinton supporter, but the way she conducted herself doing the campaign was disgraceful to me and I was ashamed. She let it be known that she had no qualms to breaking the rules, if it got her what she wanted. That in itself, made her look like another George Bush. This country can not afford another George Bush.
By American
June 4, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Typical comments from Ms. Tucker. Instead of looking for a reason to blame someone else such as sexism, racism, homophobia, etc, etc, how about finally coming to the fact that voters didn’t like what she had to say. Ms. Tucker, if you keep looking for sexism, racism, etc, I guarantee you that you will find it. Stop looking for it and try focusing your attention on solutions.
By Lee
June 4, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
It is inevitable. A woman pioneer breaks the pattern of oppression, endures the hate and attacks and struggles and fights the bigots, only to be passed over by a younger man who reaps the rewards of her struggle. You see this repeated again and again in business, in schools, industry, law, medicine, etc. Women almost make it to the top, only to have some ambitious younger man pass her by, using the openings she made first. It takes a pioneer to break the patterns and lead the way. What was hard for her to do becomes an easy street for those who follow, and don’t remember or regard the work of the pioneers who went there first. They jest at scars who never felt a wound. Black men got the vote two generations before any black or white women did. I suppose it will be another two generations from now before another woman has a chance. It is as inevitable as history.
By Dave
June 4, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
A Clinton Obama ticket - sorry - Obama Clinton ticket would certainly sew up the White House. Then we can all cry in unison “Oh My God, What Have We Done?” I am moving to Mexico …
By Scooter
June 4, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
Sexism did not “do in” Hillary Clinton, however; we poor pitiful American do love to be victims - it removes our personal responsibility.
Anyway, liberal idealism did in Hillary. That same idealism elected Jimmy Carter and Ahmadinejad came to the surface. Some thirty years later Ahmadinejad is now threatening the destruction of us and Israel. What do liberals do, they nominate Jimmy Carter’s second coming, just genetically modified.
Even if the nation elects a Talker-In-Chief, when we need a Commander-In-Chief, the irony will be too rich to ignore. But that’s is what liberals do, they ignore anything that doesn’t give government more power of dependency, well since Kennedy & LBJ’s Vietnam.
Let the Bush Derangement Syndrome begin its retort…
By Grits
June 4, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
I believe that she was doomed by Bill. He is a big problem for her.
By Norbert
June 4, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
Oh, come on now, Cynthia. You know good and well that if Hillary had somehow defeated Barack the first thing his supporters (including you) would say is that “racism” defeated him. Hypocrite!
By J
June 4, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Sexism is alive and well. I don’t know what the hell all of you idiots are talking about. Barack sucks and is the same old thing in a different package. Vote Nader or Barr if you really want change.
By Buh-bye
June 4, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this
Mr. Clinton, it’s time for you and your dog to leave the party.
By CJ
June 4, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
I have to agree with American @ 8:29AM. I guarantee that when November arrives and if Obama loses, she will cite racism.
And guys, Obama was not the clear winner. Hillary got nearly 18 million votes in the primaries. That’s nothing to discount or belittle. It’s a remarkable achievement. I feel that a woman president would have advanced our country more than another male. Think about all of the single mothers abandoned by their boyfriends or husbands… how empowered they would have felt to take control of their lives. Hillary would have been an inspiration to them, but now they see how yet another man will run the country, again and again and again.
By Tired of It All
June 4, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Sexism didn’t defeat Hillary Clinton, she did it to herself and is still defeating herself by not bowing out gracefully. Can we say “sore loser”? Mrs. Clinton, please let it go so that the Democatic Party can move on.
By Ron
June 4, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
It’s always inevitable that someone will bring this up, isn’t it? If a woman doesn’t get what she wants, it’s sexism. If it’s a black person, it’s racism. If it’s an uneducated person, it’s elitism. What is it when an educated white male doesn’t get his way? It’s called political correctness! Educated white males must succeed on their own, because they have no -ism on which to blame their failings. Maybe that’s why they so often succeed.
By LWOLF
June 4, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Hey, “Buh-bye” - this is about Hillary - leave Chelsea out of it!
By James
June 4, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
DANGEROUS DEMAGOGUERETTE
A demagogue is defined as “someone who gains power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions and prejudices of the people”. As we approach the (Democratic Convention/2008 election), I already have a multitude of reasons why I would never vote for Hillary Clinton including her stance on the rights of unborn children, her disdain for the U.S. military and her socialist touch on every program or policy she proposes. However, if for no other reason, her unbridled demogoguery at the end of the 2000 Presidential election showed me just how far she would go in a disingenuous and even dangerous effort to gain popular support. President Bush lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote and thus the election; the U.S. Supreme Court solidifying his victory with a narrow 5 to 4 ruling. Then Mrs. Clinton, a Yale Law School graduate who knew better, angrily insinuated to the American masses that Vice President Gore had been robbed of the election since he won the popular vote. She even stated that one of her first acts as a U.S. Senator would be to propose legislation eliminating the electoral college (she thankfully failed in that attempt). I guess she felt she possessed more wisdom than James Madison and our other founding fathers. Unfortunately, the great majority of American voters are totally ignorant of the purpose of the electoral college and the incredible history of how this country was founded. Hillary used this sad ignorance to appeal to the public’s fears and to incite them during a time of Constitutional crisis when Florida’s electoral votes were still in doubt and the rule of law and calm needed to be promoted. She knew full well the electoral college was instituted to protect the influence of the smaller states, that those states would never have signed the Constitution without it and that it prevents one region of the country from dominating others in being able to choose a President. It forces a Presidential candidate to appeal to the nation as a whole as opposed to just densely populated areas. In effect, it attempts to bring us together as a nation rather than dividing us as a direct popular vote would. This is the United STATES of America not the United PEOPLE of America; it is thankfully a constitutional republic and not a pure reactionary democracy and there’s a big difference. Our present “electoral system” allowing the States to have a proper and constitutional role in electing a President mitigates demagoguery. Hillary’s desire for a “popular vote” system would allow demagoguery to thrive. She showed me her true colors back then in her blatant effort to do anything in a quest for power and that reveals the naked soul of a dangerous demagoguerette.
By GM
June 4, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
She poorly managed her campaign and squandered resources. She gave this election away six months ago and should stop blaming others for her incompetence.
By Paula
June 4, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Yes, sexism and “white guilt” doomed Hillary. Geraldine Ferraro was right. Polls show that in a Clinton/McCain head to head Clinton would win. An Obama/McCain ticket would lead to a Republican victory according to those same poll. AGAIN, the Democrats chose the weaker candidate. Obama is insulting, condescending and racist, though someone he has managed to “snow” the media - which isn’t hard to do these days. Well,this life-long Democrat will be voting Republican come this fall. Kudos to Hillary for holding your head high, keeping your dignity in tact and for your grace under tremendous fire from all sides. And it offered the VP spot, please don’t accept. Don’t disgrace your name and reputation by being associated with the garbage that is Barack Obama.
By cory
June 4, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
To those women who voted for Hillary just because she is a women if Mccain is elected it means 4 more years of Bush more war, Roe V. Wade overturned, and gas at $7 a gallon. If thats what you want CJ then go ahead
By Ron
June 4, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Hey Cindy, is it possible to lead even one day of your life without racism, sexism or any of the other ism’s? I know it’s not easy being you…going through each and every day seeing the world with such a negative view. Poor little you!
By Paul
June 4, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
No strong woman tolerates a cheating philandering husband. All of Clinton’s efforts to create the image of a strong, decisive candidate who is capable of making the hard decisions were undermined by that fact.
By Ross
June 4, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
I suppose all of the Obama supporters who are so spiteful toward Sen. Clinton are fine with the 18 million people who voted for her staying home in November. For your beloved Obama (untested and unready) to win - HE NEEDS HER! Without her rallying her supporters, McCain wins easily. Recall the last 2 elections and the narrow margins that divided the winner and loser. If even half of Sen. Clinton’s supporters refuse to vote for Obama or just stay away from the polls - HE LOSES. So, before attacking any candidate - pucker up, cause it is Hillary’s supporters that you need to kiss up to!
By Ross
June 4, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
I suppose all of the Obama supporters who are so spiteful toward Sen. Clinton are fine with the 18 million people who voted for her staying home in November. For your beloved Obama (untested and unready) to win - HE NEEDS HER! Without her rallying her supporters, McCain wins easily. Recall the last 2 elections and the narrow margins that divided the winner and loser. If even half of Sen. Clinton’s supporters refuse to vote for Obama or just stay away from the polls - HE LOSES. So, before attacking any candidate - pucker up, cause it is Hillary’s supporters that you need to kiss up to!
By TJW
June 4, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
I have no qualms about a woman president, I just don’t think it should be Hillary…
Then again, I must be Sexist, Racist, and a Terrorist, because I’m not a fan of Hillary, Obama, or McCain, I’m unconvinced that any of them are the President we despritely need now.
By B. K.
June 4, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
I JUST BECAME REPUBLICAN OVER NITE !!!!!
THANXS, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA…..MY CHOICE ITS MADE & NOT YOU, NOR YOUR GIRLFRIEND OPRAH, CAN BUY MY VOTE !!!!
DO YOU THINK, NOW THAT YOU HAVE FULLED ALL THOSE PEOPLE…YOU CAN START USING YOUR REAL MUSLIM NAME???????????
By E-Roll
June 4, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
As usual, people comment on things before they read what was written. In the first two sentences of this blog, Cynthia Tucker wrote: “Is sexism still a potent force in American cultural and political life? Well, of course it is. But it didn’t defeat Hillary Clinton.”
Cynthia Tucker states that sexism didn’t defeat Hillary Clinton.
Please read before you assume her position on a matter.
Now to answer the question that was asked, no sexism did not defeat Hillary Clinton. A mixed message campaign, unneeded coded race comments, supposed negative while postive messages and focusing on a certain segment of the party, while ignoring the rest of the party is what cost her the nomination.
By Paula
June 4, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
To: Paul
It is INDEED a strong woman that has the strength to forgive and put her marriage back together, especially when there is a child involved. To believe that forgiving is not a “hard decision” says a lot about you and why you would vote for Obama.
By Robert
June 4, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Obama. Our first affirmative action nominee…
By a.e.
June 4, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
It all goes back to the “power of the men” who started this country, burning the powerful spiritual women who were great healers and would have been great leaders had they survived.. the super delegates are all their forefathers and ancestors that will not allow a powerful woman to lead our country. heads up,Hillary ,there are many still with you.
By KB
June 4, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Clinton doomed Mrs. Clinton. First, she should have put her husband in check. He was more of a liability than an assest. Everytime he opened his month, he said something bad. He actions reflected her in a bad way. Second, Mrs. Clinton made some personnel gaffee in public that may her look foolish and a liar. She showed that a woman can be a tough.
I can understand her reaction to everything last night. She was the front runner in the beginning and Mr. Obama was like the fresh face on the scene. Usually the fresh new hotness pass away in time. Mr. Obama didn’t and he was helped alot by Mrs. Clinton. In the end, it was more her race to lose than Mr. Obama’s to win. She lost it and should blame herself for that.
By GeezGuys
June 4, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Sure it was—-as long as you have folks who overlook any accomplishment Hillary might have, and instead focus on what she’s doing as a wife, it’s pretty safe to say sexism is alive and flourishing in America.
By Brad
June 4, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
What is Mr. Obama’s take on Diet Dr. Pepper? Does he think it taste just like regular Dr. Pepper?
By Kemmet from Philly
June 4, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Lets take a look at the REAL McCain shall we. Lets see who really flip flops on the issues.
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
By Goldie
June 4, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
No, it wasn’t “sexism” that doomed the Clintons — they were doomed way back in October of 2002 when they failed to show leadership against Bush’s planned invasion of Iraq! Just imagine how things might have gone differently if the Clintons had campaigned as hard against Bush’s plans as they campaigned against Senator Obama!
By cory
June 4, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
To those women who voted for Hillary just because she is a women if Mccain is elected it means 4 more years of Bush more war, Roe V. Wade overturned, and gas at $7 a gallon. If thats what you want CJ then go ahead
By M
June 4, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
I wonder if the same article will be written when the Obama supporters start whining about race. Will you write that “complaining about race will never get a minority elected to the highest office in the land.”
Will you? I doubt it. And your unobjective opinion will be quite apparent. Sad really.
By CJ
June 4, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
To Cory @ 9:04am: I’m a guy. As a man, I feel that a woman president would advance our country more than having another male president.
The Democrat’s delegate process has elected the weaker candidate. The polls don’t lie: Clinton vs. McCain = Clinton the winner. Obama vs. McCain = McCain the winner.
Obama has too much racism-related baggage to win over any Republicans who might have crossed the line to our side. All of you who bought into Obama’s change, hopes, dreams, fairies, and pixies have sentenced us to 4 more years of a Republican White House.
This is a sad day.
By JE
June 4, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
A person mentioned affirmative action and Obama. I don’t agree that Obama is our first affirmative action candidate for President, however this election should and will have an impact on how we view this practice. Now that a man who calls himself a skinny black kid from the south side of Chicago can be the nominee of a major political party for President of the strongest nation on the planet, it is time to put to rest affirmative action and quota’s based entirley in race. Obama has shown that anyone can now rise to this level. No extra points and head starts in the form of affirmative action of quota’s should ever be used unless these practices are offered to whites who are financially oppressed. Offer afirmative action now based ONLY on socio-economics and only on socio-economics. Anything other than this today is unfair, biased, racist and should be illegal. Also, as this race goes forward in it’s history making, remember the chrch is for religion and not for politics, as it operates tax free. A black church should be allowed to be turned into political staging rallies because a black person is running for President. This has happened in the past and it is unlawful and unfair. We all should be meausred by the same ruler and we should all be expected to be fair. Being equal does not offer one side extra perks.
By Publicenemynumberone
June 4, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
HEY KEMMET
I saw your neighborhood in the news on Monday. Hopefully it wasn’t your nice pad that the stolen car crashed into.
By Jane
June 4, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Can anyone HONESTLY tell me what obama stands for other than the word CHANGE? - I have heard him parrot Clintons health care stuff slightly tweaked but nothing with any substance
By Goldie
June 4, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
CJ — you can continue to repeat the Clintons’ propaganda about McCain beating Obama, or you can pay attention to what the latest polls are showing — and this is just a snapshot from May. Obama’s numbers are sure to rise going into November:
General Election: McCain vs. Obama
By Patrick G
June 4, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Sexism didn’t cause Hillary to lose! Racism did….If Obama were white he sure wouldn’t have got the black vote….I wonder how many people actually know anything about Obama that voted for him? Hillary was the best candidate!! She is a remarkable woman….I guess we can look forward to 4 years of dice rolling at the white house and the inagural toast won’t be with champagne but with 40oz Colt 45 in paper sacks…Get ready America we’re about to be “Ghetto Fabulous”!!
By Jim H.
June 4, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
I have absolutely no problem with a woman being president and I would have no problem voting for the right one. I do have a problem with a lying, plastic, shady, dirty dealing, socialist political views woman being president. And besides that she is just plain unlikable (and the polls prove that). Being a woman didn’t stop Hillary. Hillary stopped Hillary.
By JHernandez
June 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
More the media than sexism. Amazing how biased the media was in this election. I do like Obama he looks like a nice man with a nice family. Hillary had too many foes to fight. The media,the democratic party elite, and the whole black population to name a few, was too much to overcome. This will be the first time in 20 years that I vote GOP. I will do my best along with many of my friends to campain for McCain. Hasta la vista Democrats. This has done it for me. Go McCain!!!
By RealityKing
June 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Hillary lost because she failed to get 90% of the national black vote. So obviously, it was the democrat’s racism, not their sexism, that beat the Clintons..
By zeke
June 4, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
NO! The Clintons arrogance, socialist agenda and a rabid rush to elect a minority regarless of the fact he has no experience, no reverance for the country and no “gravitas” - a word so misused in the last two elections- doomed Hillary!
By Goldie
June 4, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
I am shocked at how many of Hillary’s supporters did not even know that she voted to authorize Bush’s invasion of Iraq — they voted for her and did not even know how she has voted in the Senate!
By fer
June 4, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
I agree w/ Voice of Reason way back at the beginning. Sexism did not doom Hillary; Hillary doomed Hillary. She did not make it on her own; she stayed w/ her husband because of his power.
By Jane
June 4, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Jim H every reason you stated for not liking Hillary is why a MAN is a good politician. Good ole boys club strikes again - who would you have no problem voting for as a woman in politics as president? There is no such thing as an honest politician.
By elainer7
June 4, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
I do not like any of the candidates put before us this election year. However, those of you willing to put Obabma in the White House…you will be the ones screaming the loudest when the country is in worse shape next year than it is now. Voters beware!
By h ryder
June 4, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
H. Clinton lost any chance of my support years ago when she did not divorce her philandering and legally convicted liar of a husband. In my opinion, if she is incapable of that, for whatever reason, she is totally unqualified to decide matters much more important. Since she is incapable of initiating and carrying through when being totally disrespected and humiliated in her personal and public life, history and statistics indicate that it would be highly unlikely that proper action would be less than likely should she ever face a similar situation as the person in charge of our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By rayray
June 4, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Heck no! She ran a terrible campaign and is simply not a likable person. She is simply the worst of what many have grown to dislike about our politicians. The lies, her pandering, her hubris, and her lack of any real message doomed her from the start. She has the highest negative ratings of any candidate running. She would never have beaten McCain as too many people simply do not like her and those who REALLY do not like her have large radio audiences and would spend the next 5 months killing her. No Republican would have voted for her. Does someone who was the front runner and had the brand name recognition and squandered all of the tools in her war chest deserve to win? If she cannot run a campaign with everything needed to win, how can she possibly run the country? She lost because she is not a great candidate. Its that simple. I vote for the best person, not the color of their skin or their sex.
By David
June 4, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Obama reminds me of the traveling salesman that is so likeable to you while he is trying to sell you crap by telling you absolutley nothing. To me this is a HORRIBLE election year, you can vote Demo and put the exact same kind of people in the White House that are Great Grandfathers and such fought overseas, or you can go the other direction and continue getting screwed the way we have been. This Government contiues to fail us because WE ALLOW IT TO FAIL.
By David
June 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Obama reminds me of the traveling salesman that is so likeable to you while he is trying to sell you crap by telling you absolutley nothing. To me this is a HORRIBLE election year, you can vote Demo and put the exact same kind of people in the White House that our Great Grandfathers and such fought overseas, or you can go the other direction and continue getting screwed the way we have been. This Government contiues to fail us because WE ALLOW IT TO FAIL.
By Jane
June 4, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
fer you don’t KNOW why she stayed with Bill - the only person that knows is HILLARY. You can make all the crass comments you wish, put her down, and make as many assumptions as you want but you still will have no idea why. Women as a whole have a variety of reasons for what they do - generally men will admit to NOT understanding women for the slightest thing. Example why they will call a color seafoam green instead of green - it is the difference in how men and women think.
Bill did not help Hillary but Hillary did help Bill. Think about that. Plus, she stayed inspite of his actions that would have made it so easy to just leave. She has a lot of character and is a strong person to deal with what he has tossed her way.
By Copyleft
June 4, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
The Socialist Party candidate is Brian Moore of Floriday.
Anyone who whines about “socialism” in connection to the Democratic Party is demonstrating their total obliviousness and rabid, unreasoning hatred, nothing more.
By Copyleft
June 4, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
The Socialist Party candidate is Brian Moore of Florida.
Anyone who whines about “socialism” in connection to the Democratic Party is demonstrating their total obliviousness and rabid, unreasoning hatred, nothing more.
By Kemmet from Philly
June 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
@ Publicenemynumberone
LOL!!!!!
That wasnt my house but that wasnt too far from me.
Hey Publicenemynumberone, make sure you check out this video of McCain!!! http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
By Kemmet from Philly
June 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
@ Publicenemynumberone
LOL!!!!!
That wasnt my house but that wasnt too far from me.
Hey Publicenemynumberone, make sure you check out this video of McCain!!! http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
By Kemmet from Philly
June 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
@ Publicenemynumberone
LOL!!!!!
That wasnt my house but that wasnt too far from me.
Hey Publicenemynumberone, make sure you check out this video of McCain!!! http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
By Kemmet from Philly
June 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
@ Publicenemynumberone
LOL!!!!!
That wasnt my house but that wasnt too far from me.
Hey Publicenemynumberone, make sure you check out this video of McCain!!! http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
By Kemmet from Philly
June 4, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
@ Publicenemynumberone
LOL!!!!!
That wasnt my house but that wasnt too far from me.
Hey Publicenemynumberone, make sure you check out this video of McCain!!! http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
By steve-o
June 4, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
CJ,
Cut the crap! I’ve seen you on these blogs over the past few years and know for a fact that your views don’t come even close to matching McCain’s platform. Obama has run a respectable campaign and played by the rules. He won his delegates fair and square by party rules. It was the Clinton campaign’s decision to ignore the smaller states like Idaho and Alaska. It was also their mistake not to develop an adequate ground game early on.
You and other Clinton supporters need to rest a little and let tempers calm. After your disappointment goes away, I think you’ll begin to think clearly again as a progressive and see what’s at stake in this year’s election.
By Tray
June 4, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
For God’s sake, Hillary said she’d NUKE Iran. WHAT THE HELL?? Sure, i want to vote for the prez that starts WWIII!!
Oh, and for those who think Obama will do a good job-How can he? He doesn’t know how!! Someone else will be running the White House the first few years he’s in office, probably whoever is VP, or Condi.
This is going to boil down to sheer racial population. Are there more whites or blacks going to vote. Answer that, and you’ll know who is going to be president.
By lwa
June 4, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Hillary lost fair and square. She didn’t get enough delegates to secure the nomination. She cried about Michigan and Florida, the DNC gave in and she still doesn’t have enough delegates.
It is not sexism no more than if Barack looses it is racism.
By NCANTRELL
June 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
HE SHOULD NOT PICK HILLARY FOR A RUNNING A MATE. HE NEEDS TO PICK SOMEONE LIKE GEN. ANTHONY ZINNI OR SEN. SAM NUNN. LETS GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS PLEASE. TELL EVERYBODY AND E-MAIL THEM THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN IF YOU CAN AND LET THEM KNOW NOT TO PICK HILLARY. WE WILL WIN WITH SOMEONE ELSE. IT ONLY HAS TO BE THE RIGHTS VP. IF HE CHOOSES HILLARY THEY WILL HAVE HIM KILLED LIKE THEY DID TO OTHERS IN BILL’S ADMINISTRATION. GEN ZINNI NOT HILLARY OR BILL CLINTON.
By Kevin
June 4, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Cynthia, you are a miserable hypicrite.
If Obama would have lost, I’d bet my eye teeth on the fact that you would have written a column about how “America can’t rise above race”.
And you have the audacity (of hope, nonetheless) to use words like whiny and victomhood? You apparently don’t read your own columns.
I’ll be glad when you leave Atlanta. You represent the worst of this city.
By Jim S
June 4, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
The lesson of this story,(they who live in Glass Houses should not throw kitchen sinks). Jim S.
By Leon
June 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Did all you “STUPID” people who hate Hillary forget it was not Hillary who lost the race it was all the “Blacks” that never voted before and came out to support a Bi-racial man beat Hillary. Thank God most woman saw a good thing by supporting Hillary and the ones that didn’t well you deserve exactly what you are going to get coming to you now go back into the 18 and 19 century. Obama will not be President if he does not chose Hillary as his Vice President and we will be stuck with four more years of Bush. Maybe McCain should ask Bush to be his Vice President since nothing is going to change if he is elected. Obama/Hillary all the way to the White House.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Hillary wounds are all self-inflicted, she ran her campaign in the days of old…Many Americans do not want to keep rehashing and reinventing the Clintons and Bushs political legacies…She relied on fear tactic, racism (Ohio, W. Virginia and Kentucky) And please to the people who state it is not, when Robert Byrd is a card holding KKK and the people of W. virnigia keeps voting him in…However, Hillary did more race baiting than Obama and she got expose for what she is and the people who voted for her….In W.Virigina a voter told her “We are all voting for you Hillary, not a colored man” That in itself, doesn’t mean they truly support Hillary, no doubt these same people would have moved to vote for McCain, if she would have became the nominee…Hillary should have told that woman, first “What is a colored”, I know i honestly did not know…And she should have stated to vote for the best person not color…Of course she did not, sounds like a panderer, not something new and different..And know one cares about whose up at 3am in the morning to push a button (Reagan’s era). Fearmongering is over…Most Americans care about our economy, job growth, health care etc…All things that went to hell in a handbasket under her watch, Bush’s and McCain…BTW
By KenFromCalifornia
June 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
hillary grabbed onto the sexism the same way that mel reynolds grabbed onto racisim; only when it suits the purpose.
what really made hillary look bad, imo, is geraldine ferraro. the resentment ferraro felt toward barack obama was so strong, she nearly had a stroke every time she talked about it.
according to geraldine ferraro:
a) obama’s comparison of hillary clinton to annie oakley was sexist. geraldine apparently forgot all the comparisons and editorial cartoons comparing ronald reagan to cowboys (jesse jackson himself had a famous quote making that comparison as well)
b) obama’s dusting off his collar was sexist. i guess geraldine ferraro doesn’t keep up with popular culture and references.
c) the media referring to hillary as “hillary rodham clinton” is sexist. geraldine ferraro forgot that hillary clinton herself told everyone during her husband’s first term that her preference was to have her maiden name included in all media stories.
even the young female host on the morning foxnews show looked perplexed when telling geraldine ferraro that it is hard to see how such could be considered sexist.
is it sexist to criticize? if someone makes a mistake such as having a 27-state plan through super tuesday, is it sexist to point out that mistake?
when hillary clinton fired her solis, her female campaign mananger, was it due to incompetence or sexism? or are we entitled to even ask that question?
geraldine ferraro using the word sexism to cover your own shortcomings is the same as mel reynolds using the word racism to cover his own shortcomings. it just shows how much, or how little, content of character they have.
By steve-o
June 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
By Leon
June 4, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Did all you “STUPID” people who hate Hillary forget it was not Hillary who lost the race it was all the “Blacks” that never voted before and came out to support a Bi-racial man beat Hillary.
Leon,
You are so right! I mean the black vote in Iowa, Idaho, Utah, Alaska, Hawaii, Colorado, Vermont, North Dakota, Nebraska, Wyoming, and Maine was responsible for putting Obama over the top!
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Obama has too much racism baggage…Please! First off, no one not even Fox news stated anything Rev.Wright said was a lie, because it wasn’t…Hagee, Parsley, Graham, Falwall, Robertson etc…All have a long history of racist statements against others and it has never impacted their endorsed canidate campaign…The people who are making Wright an issue, is like the people in W. Virginia who continues to vote for a card holding KKK and states they are not racists themselves….Like anyone believes that…And look it Robert Byrd is still a sitting Congressman….
What I don’t understand is why people feel the need to bring out Wright to justify their own racism…
Then again these people really believes tinkie winkie is a gay teletubbie…………..
By matt
June 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Barack will not win without Hillary’s supporters. It’s just not possible. All of these Obama supporters need to stop acting like he’s the second coming. He’s inexperienced and will have an uphill battle just balancing the budget. The only way for the Democrats to take back the White House is to be united. Bashing Hillary is pointless and shows lack of educated opinion.
By hrw
June 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Leon, do not call people stupid! Mrs. Clinton start off by degrading and putting Mr. Obama down. Now that the shoes on the other foot; its like you and others are still trying to put Mr. Obama down as well. You also have to open your eyes and we all know that none of of are getting anything out of this election so we are still right back where we started!
By matt
June 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Barack will not win without Hillary’s supporters. It’s just not possible. All of these Obama supporters need to stop acting like he’s the second coming. He’s inexperienced and will have an uphill battle just balancing the budget. The only way for the Democrats to take back the White House is to be united. Bashing Hillary is pointless and shows lack of educated opinion.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
CJ, perhaps they will bring out the tapes on how many people died under the Clinton’s presidency…Although I doubt anyone would care…Afterall Laura Bush ran a stop sign and killed somebody…Obama doesn’t have any deaths and/or accident on his record or his wife…
By GaLiberal
June 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
In part, yes. Just as racist attitudes will doom Obama (many whites fear a black president), sexist attitudes and double standards made it nearly impossible for her to win. When she didn’t display any emotion, she was uncaring and frigid. When she did display some emotion, she was either weak or manipulative. Similarly, Obama has been labeled as elitist (by conservatives of all people) and a ‘reverse racist’ because of the church he attended. It’s just a way for people to justify their covert prejudices be it race or sex. Don’t believe me. Just read Scooter @8:37 as a perfect example of the Rethuglicon mentality.
John McCain will win the election because he is a white male. No other reason. He’s not a moderate; he’ll carry on Bush’s failed economic and foreign policies furthering our slide to third-world status. The Iraq war will not end and will most likely escalate the longer US troops occupy their country.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And John McCain is “living” proof.
By steve-o
June 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Nandi,
…however Robert Byrd has endorsed Obama. Talk about coming a long way.
By jane doe
June 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
To ALL of you stupid, uneducated HATERS talking about Obama, keep on hating on him and saying all the nasty, rude comments about because your ignorance only makes him strive harder and harder to win the election. Im sure you all have heard of the saying: “Make your Haters your Motivators”. Yall need to get a damn life!
By KenFromCalifornia
June 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
January 2007
hillary clinton had double-digit lead in the polls over all democratic candidates
hillary clinton had over $100million in her campaign, dwarfing that of her democratic rivals
hillary clinton had the support of 70% of black voters (and many of the black political leaders)
and she messed all that up because…
a) she couldn’t/wouldn’t control her husband
b) she felt that super tuesday would be enough to put her over the hump
c) her campaign staff had no idea how important caucuses are, nor did they account for how one could “win” a state but still gain merely 5-or-less delegates to show for it
d) her surrogates, bob johnson of the charlotte hornets and geraldine ferraro in particular, have absolutely no idea where the line is that offends people
what hillary did correctly was take away “the regular people’s champion” title from barack obama, even though she is rich enough to write herself $5million checks whenever she needs to.
she simply didn’t see barack obama coming, and he took advantage of her campaign’s mistakes. no one “gave” him anything. he saw vulnerabilities of her own making, and he exploited them before she realized what was happening.
By Jim
June 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
The problem is not Hillary’s sex. The problem is not Obama’s race. The problem is the incredible liberalism of both. Do they only fire Socialist speech writers?
By kj
June 4, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Cannot stand Hillary, but I could support Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi or Golda Meir. Sorry, she is a divider - that is why she lost. Did you hear her flub the immagration question. How about the Bosnian sniper incident. She is nauseating. Plenty of nauseating men out there, she just happens to be a nauseating woman.
By Dave
June 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
I still can’t believe how many Americans want the Clinton’s back in the White House. I’m going to be sick …
By Brad
June 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
MY GOD did everyone see this Ed McMahon fighting foreclosure on his Beverly Hills home
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Anya…Obama does not have to “earn” anything and please “swing states” which by the way are undereducated states that mostly swing republican…Like Ohio, Only a mere 22% of that state has college degrees, they have lost manufacturing, auto industries jobs for decades now..It is a finanancially ailing state…each election they swing their votes to republicans or racist (W.Virginia) and never think to demand that their elected official swing them some jobs or new industries…Earn what, when obviously they wouldn’t get it anyway or they would not let their state get to a point of no return…Who has to earn W. Virginia with a KKK card holder elected Congressman…If W.virginia, Ohio, Kentucky are happy with their status…Let them be, it is not like anyone ever takes them seriously anyway…Definitely not Cheney…They are the butt of the joke, they should work on earning others educated people respect, perhaps taking down the confederate flag and flying the one flag we are all under would help…Obama doesn’t need to earn anything from them, let them vote how they have always voted and let them continue to slip into low-achievers, financially ailing states…They like it that way and it is their choice…
By Carol
June 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
I’m a Black woman and pretty amazed at how naive people are regarding Obama and Clinton. They’re both ambitious, both power hungry, both willing to sell their souls for power..and guess what, that’s what politicians do. Would you ever attempt to become a politician? nuff said. Obama’s supporters are just plain mislead and time will show..Hillary has been abused, accused, defamed and just plain disrespected…and yes because she’s a woman. Many man still have trouble seeing a woman in such a powerful role, so while we in America get on our high horses about muslim women in bondage…take a moment and review how Hillary’s been treated. Blacks will feel the most pain, because they have unrealistic expectations of Obama, he will let them down again and again because he is the nominee for all of the people not black people…this debate is sickening
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
Jane, I believe any intelligent person who have seen that video, in which you speak of…Was not the “plege of alligience, it was the national anthem…So, how could one claim he did not pledge allegience to a flag when they donot know the difference between the pledge of alligience and the national anthem and yet questions someone elses patriotism…I would think a true patriot knows the difference…
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
Jane, I believe any intelligent person who have seen that video, in which you speak of…Was not the “plege of alligience, it was the national anthem…So, how could one claim he did not pledge allegience to a flag when they donot know the difference between the pledge of alligience and the national anthem and yet questions someone elses patriotism…I would think a true patriot knows the difference…
By Dave
June 4, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
Obama is a power hungry phony. Hillary is a power hungry wannabe. They are both worse than drug addicts hooked on the power and the glory. The Democratic Party is hopelessly lost and pathetically distanced from the reality of life with these two morons. No telling how sad it will be when Obama picks a rotting liberal running mate. May God have mercy on their souls. And ours. Please save me and my family from this insanity …
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Matt, actually Hillary supporters, did not really support her, so please, that is arrogant to think Obama cannot win without them, McCain is not exactly the favorite amongst his party neither…And let’s not forget, that dems would not have taken the house and senate with republicans voting democrats… So, there is no way of really predicting what Obama will do or can do without hillary supporters and alot of them like in W. Virginia voted for her as oppose to a “colored man”…Doesn’t really mean they would have voted for her against McCain.
By reservoirDAWG
June 4, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this
Regardless, any true American would place their hand over their heart when the national anthem is played.
By Logically Speaking
June 4, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Patrick G You’re foolish!
By DebbieDoRight
June 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
I voted for Hillary in the primaries here in Georgia and, to my chagrin, have grown to hate that I did. Her blatant disrespect of the party base (Democratic base), her willingness to tear apart and DESTROY the democratic party if she doesn’t get her way; her RKF comment, and her “hard working whites” comment have sealed her fate. It wasn’t sexism, it was IGNORANCE that derailed her campaign.
Also, this is for the “Obama is a racist who hates whites” comments. Could someone tell me how a person can be born from a White mother, Raised by White grandparents that he loved and tried to emulate, then be called a “white hating racist?” He knew more of the white culture than he knew of his black african culture. He didn’t know that much of his black american culture until he became an adult — however NOW he’s a “white hating racist”!!?!? How is that possible?
Is GWB a racist for the comments that Rowe and Cheney have made in the past? Is his father, GBSr.? Is his mother? What about his two daughters? Are they racist because of the things that their friends have said about blacks and Latinos?
Honestly, where do you people come up with this stuff from? Fox News? Or Rum Limbaugh (Drunk off of booze mixed with oxycontin)?
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Steve-O, yea, Robert Byrd endorsed Obama…Long way or political move..After all Strum Thurman stood as a staunch and publically anti-intergrationist, while screwing his 14 year old black maid the whole time, for which his sired a child that he never publically acknowledge…so long way to who?
By reebok
June 4, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Only a couple of months ago, we were hearing that Republicans would stay away in droves or cross the line to vote Democrat if John “not a real Republican” McCain won the GOP nomination. Amazing how fast the GOP has now united to face down Obama. The Clinton/Obama dynamic will be exactly the same. Voters who wanted Clinton will be disappointed, but they will also realize that the choice between Obama - who is very close to Hillary politically - and McCain is a no-brainer. Obama will win the genreal election by a huge margin. BTW, nobody doomed Hillary but Hillary. Too many people just don’t like her.
By Debra
June 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Hillary beat herself!! I used to have very high regard for her and Bill Clinton, Bill more than her; however, following this campaign and seeing them in action showed me who they really are and what we are really dealing with. They are divisive, dishonest, and STUBBORN when they are not viewed how they want to be viewed. Now this would not be what is needed as a VP and a husband such as the two. President Obama (that’s right, I said it!) would be distracted more by a unfriendly camp rather than more accomplishments. We don’t need that and Don’t want it! Maybe somewhere else in the mix. There are more qualified individuals with similiar profiles that could get the job done without Hillary being VP. GO OBAMA
By Logically Speaking
June 4, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Everyone keeps mentioning Obama’s inexperience…..
Our current president is “experienced” and both democrats and republicans agree that this country is a mess!
I hope Obama will not just invite Hilary to be his running mate because of this pressure he’s getting. She has already shown she does not respect his position by not bowing out gracefully last night. The primaries are over and Obama has his delegates. IMHO, this is very manipulative of her and she should be ashamed.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
reservoirDAWg,I would think a true American would atleast know the difference between pledge of allegience and national anthem atleast and it is not required of the national anthem…I think honesty would be a better quality of an true American.
By The Cowboy
June 4, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Sexism didn’t doom Hill, her poor political stances and the threats of greater government control over our lives doomed her. Racism will not doom Obama, it’s that he wants a socialist state and not a free republic that will doom him.
By Goldie
June 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
“Please save me and my family from this insanity …”
Dave— please be assured that once we get Obama and his VP in the White House, sanity will once again be brought into our world, after having survived 8 years of total disaster from your Party— God bless us all in November!
By Jean
June 4, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
I would love to see a woman President or VP, just not Hillary. You cannot believe anything she says. I live in New York State and she has not fulfilled any of the promises she made while running for Senator. On second thought, if she became President, we could get her out of the state and maybe elect a Senator who cares about NY.
By BAG
June 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Can anyone tell me 5 reasons the contry will be worse off tha it is now if Barak becomes president?
By BAG
June 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Can anyone tell me 5 reasons the contry will be worse off tha it is now if Barak becomes president?
By nandi
June 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Carol, any president elect is a president for all the people?
Perhaps, you could refresh my memory and tell how many civil rights bills and amendments have been passed and signed by a democrat president?
I do not think for one minute Blacks will be hurt, if the one lesson they can take from Obama is that racism is never going away, it will always be part of our fabric..However that is not enough of a reason to not do your best, speak your best etc…Irregardless, because we are born into it, we will die into…But that doesn’t stop me for obtaining a degree, ensuring that my children seeks higher education…Not that a college degree will immerse anyone into financial wealth, but it gives one more options than not and never let anyone dictate what you can and cannot do…That can also go for classism, which is the twin cousin of racism..People from W.Virginia are the butt of all types of jokes, yet quite a few can and have risen above…So I think all who knows the true meaning and intentions of racism, sexism, classism and elitism, now knows one way to defeat it without acknowledging its power…For that is how one takes the power out of its effects.
By steve-o
June 4, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
reservoirDAWg,
You should know that having a hand over your heart during the national anthem isn’t required as it is during the Pledge. Why do you hate America so much?
By nandi
June 4, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Dave, I wonder how does that work, God have mercy on their souls, while dooming and indicting them…A sign of a true Christian..LOL
You are a prime example why politicians should keep religion and religious endorsements out of the presidential elections…
However, it would be nice if all the people who voted for Bush and this war would pick up that 1.4 trillion dollar debt to China…At present every man, woman and child owes China 3-4 thousand dollars…To communist China, personally I thought repubs were against communists? Not their monies apparently? Not that is some shiite to pray on.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Leon, so what if he is “bi-racial”, it is not to many Americans that are not bi-racial or ethnically mix…So what is the point?
By nandi
June 4, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Leon, so what if he is “bi-racial”, it is not to many Americans that are not bi-racial or ethnically mix…So what is the point?
By roja
June 4, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Actually racism doomed Hillary. Bill’s racist comments; Hillary’s thinly veiled racist comments claiming only she could win the ‘working class’ (e.g., white middle class) vote; and black racists who will vote for anyone as long as the look black - even if they have a white Mom.
Sexism had nothing to do with it.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Obama should not select Clinton as VP, this long campaign needs to travel a different path and an re-hashed clinton should simply go away…
I would think her grandstanding and refusal to concede, should be all or nothing and since she lost…Go away
She is doing nothing but proving all the stereotypes that some have of women, whining, crying, catty, backstabbing,petty,hizzy fits etc….
To the point she made long time friends and people who once supported publically switch their support…Hillary is just doing her last grandstand, “if she doesn’t gets the vp nod, she will create a controversy in attempts to plague Obama going forward…Which is definitely not a person, any canidate should want as their second in command….
By nandi
June 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Ross, that is a good thing if the 18 million stays at home, for alot of republicans will not vote for McCain…So who cares if they stay at home, all that means is their votes will not be counted one way or another…
By nandi
June 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
Roja…Exactly and Black people have voted in Presidential elections, since they fought and died for the right to vote and which one of them was Black? It was a dumb thing for her to say and Blacks supported Bill during two elections, impeachment hearing, hoe-hopping, scandals…Was they voting and supporting on race then…Perhaps it was the remarks she made that make them view her another way…
Actually, Hillary stated “white uneducated people will vote for her”, which is condescending, but if they did not see that way…okay
By Cary
June 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
What everyone is forgettung is that this game is called politics. It is naive to not belief that both parties (Obama and Clinton) were not affected by all the various “isms”. However likable or not Hillary is/was she wasn’t going to get the nod because she is a woman. It is not that the general public wouldn’t allow it; that powers that be and the protocol machine would not allow it. It’s all about perception on an international scale. Why do you think that Mrs. Clinton stood by Mr. Clinton. Answere: she had no choice. You can not get a divorce while in the presidential suite and “Presidents” and Bill will always be considered like all those before him; do not get divorced. It’s not about vows and marriage between man and woman; it’s about the image and power in the oval office. How would it really play out if the “Leader of the free World” let his wife divoce him simply for cheating on her. How many countries are there abraod where women have zero rights. Many of those are the very same countries that hold oil and other necessites. Or how about CHina that has no real Human Rights Bill to speak of. Image ..Image…Image. The president can get his horizontal maambo on anytime he wants without fear from the spouse; it the machine that can make or break him. The political machine is a totally different beast that does not abide by the rules of wrong and right; it is about protocol,ego,image, and money,and back door deals. I do not wish to begrudge Obama his victory, but I think that Clinton had the right to see this through. We all now tha a smiling cupcake will not get the nod. I don’t are if a politicain smiles a lot. George Bush smiles all the damn time because the elevator does not go to the topp floor people. Have you watched his speeches? What do you have to be worreid about when your father buys an election for you? Politicos will always back a horse that will win no matter previous misgivings. Obama sold the message of the castle of Hope extremely well, and he now he must a foundation under it.I am not anit-Obama or pro Hillary; what I am observing is all the nuances and how some can get elected to run in the race of leader of the free world without having to really talk about the specifics of where and how the would lead our country in a more complete manner. I mean I hope to be well off one day, but I have to have a plan to get there. My tip my hat to both Obama and Hillary for what has turned out to be one of the most energizing political races to date. What many people fail to realize also is that internationally people watched with great vigor and interest also. Since Obama is the “man” of choice I hope that the political machine will not bog down the hope train. Also, I hope that she receive some sort of significant post in the same manner that I would hope the Obama would be extende in the shoe was on the other foot. Neither should slight the millions of votes each received as it would be a disservice to the people. I am looking forward to VP nominatins since Feb. Game on America!
By MrLiberty
June 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
If sexism doomed Hillary it is only because she ran as a woman - not a qualified individual. Same for Obama. I don’t vote for women or blacks. I vote for individuals that won’t treat me as a member of a group.
Hillary’s real problem is that she is a b***.
The only thing worse is being a liar, and she’s that too. She knew about Bill, but instead chose to blame the “vast right wing conspiracy.” She never appologized once cigar stuffer came clean.
And then there is Vincent Foster. She was certainly involved in his murder at some level, even if she didn’f pull the trigger. Then she just sat back while her husband illegally bombed Serbia, turning that country into a bloodbath and a toxic waste dump.
People know what they are getting with Hillary - a woman that wants to be QUEEN. It is truly sad for woman that their only aspiring role models are just so much scum.
Don’t get me wrong. Mc. McCain is insane. He wants to be dictator.
We had a chance in Ron Paul to restore the constitution and limited government but we abandoned that hope and recoiled into the fear that has held us in its pathetic grip (along with our gross ignorance) since 9-11.
Looks like now the best strategy will be one out of here before it gets too late. Now I know how educated Germans felt in ‘39
By reality not hate
June 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
DebbieDoRight, you’re amzing girl!!You said it better than anyone else could!!!Kudos!
By The Cowboy
June 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Italic:*By BAG
June 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Can anyone tell me 5 reasons the contry will be worse off tha it is now if Barak becomes president?*
Because of your obvious lack of education, taking the time to explain it to you would be a complete waste.
By Ben
June 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
Obama is not qualified or capable…he got to where he is because of three words…manufactured white guilt
By LMad
June 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
What kind of sense does it make not to vote for anyone just because your candidate lost? People like that are the reason why change doesn’t happen…you mope and complain and pout when you don’t get your way, then b*itch and moan when the very people who you helped to put into office (through NOT voting) screw up.
Grow up!
By nandi
June 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
Robert, “affirmative action nominee” You must be that Hillary supporter that she speaks of as “uneducated white folks”, Obama won on votes not a policy…BTW, although I am sure you know this already by your post, AA, no where does it states a particular race and actually women are consider a minority as well…So if Hillary would have won, I guess she would be the first AA nominee? LOL
By Im a girl
June 4, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
Cynthia, by saying that Hillary fell prey to her husband and Mark Penn’s strategy to undo her by sexist practices, aren’t you doing the very thing your saying we should not be doing to Hillary? Victimizing her? Your saying that she fell victim to sexism? Please she was beaten by a better candidate. I lost all female respect for Hillary when she played the tear card in front of millions of Americans. That is a trick to get my way I haven’t used since I lived with my father. She cried she won…she fell victim to her own demise. Playing dirty was a tactic she came up with all on her own. She didn’t need a man to help her do that. If she wanted to be respected she would have blazed a trail in her own name and not on the back of her husband first of all and wouldn’t have played the race or gender card. She ran the race she, as a “tough, tireless, savvy and resilient” candidate wanted to and didn’t win. Stop making up reasons and excuses and face that she was beaten…and could you ask her to do the same. Then maybe we could get on with beating George Bush I mean John McCain as a unified party…gracious
By MrLiberty
June 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Ben,
I like the term “collective white guilt” Remember, were talking about socialists from both parties who love this guy and his collectivist mindset.
Let the era of presidential affirmative action begin !
By nandi
June 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
JE, Um excuse me…but elected presidents have been receiving religious endorsements all along..Falwall, Hagee, Graham, Roberts etc..All have had racist ranting as well, this did not start with the Black church and as far as Affirmative Action…Reading and comprehension is your friend…AA is a policy for minorities (which includes women of all races) to ensure that jobs that once was not available to them are made available to them…like pilots, accountants…Sorry, you still have to be educated and credential qualified…No, some poor kid from anywhere inner city or trailer park, W. Virginia are going to qualified and AA promoted to a pilot without the education and requirements…
I am amazed how much AA is used to malign Black people, when it applies to all minorites and women..AA was introduced to equal out inequalities towards minorities and women in certain job fields,once dominated by white males…
I never understood how people makes these statements, without atleast knowing what AA is….
And yes, Women in this country were and is discriminated against and could not work in certain fields.
AA could be any minority and or women…Who said there were all black?
By Scrappy
June 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Hillary lost because the DNC made the worst decision ever and did not count the delgated of MI and FL. Why? Reverse Racism. I know some of you won’t want to hear this, but she didn’t get the MI and FL votes because it would have made her the nominee and not Obama. This would outrage the african american community, have everyone start calling everyone else a racist, and probably start a few riots. So, instead, they pretty much gave it to Obama. Don’t get me wrong, I will still vote for Obama over McCain, but there is no way in our “democracy” that 2 states votes just getting thrown out is correct.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
Dave, yes please move to Mexico, perhaps you could talk some of the illegals to go with you..I hear alot of people like you say they are going to move…We thank you in advance for your ability to step aside and stop holding up progress…
By mamaj
June 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Sexism didn’t do Hillary in-Hillary did Hillary in. She was entitlement at it’s highest level. Now she is like a pit bulldog with a leg in it’s mouth—there’s no way she’s going to turn loose until someone puts her down. The way she invited 17 million people to go to her website and tell her what they think, sounds like an invitation to a dog fight that no one needs to be a part of. I truly hope that Obama is not even considering her for his running mate because that would prove to be an undertaking of massive proportions, considering that he would spend his FIRST term trying to keep her AND Bill in line. John Edwards has and will always be my choice for his VP, because the man has such a sense of fairness, respectability and honesty about him. With that said—GO PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!
By Copyleft
June 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Scrappy, you seem to be overlooking an important fact: Michigan and Florida broke the rules on conducting a primary. Rules they had agreed to follow, and then didn’t.
Maybe that earns you a Medal of Freedom from the Bushies, but in the Democratic party rule-breaking has penalties. And their votes ARE ‘being counted’—at a reduced rate to penalize them for their RULE-BREAKING. Get it?
By nandi
June 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I also will state, never listen to anyone who speaks of someone’s lack of experience to become President…Afterall, once actually have to become a president to have experience at being one, then again Bush has 8 years of experience with approval ratings lower than Nixon, 1.4 trillion dollar debt to China, two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan), WTC not rebuild, foreclosue debacle, Haliburton with millions of our lost dollars, New Orleans not rebuild neither, no Bin Laden found (dead or alive) oil crisis…Yes, Bush experience is clearly defined by what he has not accomplished LOL, However it doesn’t take experience to f-up or perhaps it does LOL
By Patman
June 4, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Well well well, obviously the right wing neo nazi wingnuts trying to flame Cynthia tucker obvioulsy don’t bother reading. If they had bothered to do so, they would have seen that Ms Tucker’s column ws suggesting that Hillary Clinton and her supporters should NOT use sexism as an excuse for losing. Of course why other reading when you have rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly doing your thinking for you. The thought of a black man winning what many wingnuts feel is the birthright of their own terrifies them to pieces and I’m going to enjoy it! They’re going to pull the Jeremiah Wright, Michelle Obama, “Barack Hussein is a Muslim!” cards to the max and it will blow up in their ugly faces! GO OBAMA!!!
By nandi
June 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Cary, If Hillary wanted a divorce she could have gotten one…How long have Bill been outta office now? I also remember when Bill was governor of Arkansas, he gave many government contracts to his wife’s firm…That was the basis of Ken Starr investigation, (in which Bill was having affairs then and before the monica incident two other women was suing him…Governors get divorced all the time…Now, when Clinton was giving government contracts to his wif’s law firm…I wonder was either of them Bill or Hill concerned about the small business owners and its inability to get government contract, due to nepotism, lobby groups and political favors….Perhaps some people remember those facts….
By Lee is an idiot
June 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Lee , did you graduate high school? women got the vote in 1920. all balck poeople, men and women, got it in 1964.
Lee said: By Lee
June 4, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
It is inevitable. A woman pioneer breaks the pattern of oppression, endures the hate and attacks and struggles and fights the bigots, only to be passed over by a younger man who reaps the rewards of her struggle. You see this repeated again and again in business, in schools, industry, law, medicine, etc. Women almost make it to the top, only to have some ambitious younger man pass her by, using the openings she made first. It takes a pioneer to break the patterns and lead the way. What was hard for her to do becomes an easy street for those who follow, and don’t remember or regard the work of the pioneers who went there first. They jest at scars who never felt a wound. Black men got the vote two generations before any black or white women did. I suppose it will be another two generations from now before another woman has a chance. It is as inevitable as history.
By roja
June 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Hillary is experienced???? In what? She rode Bill’s coattails into the Senate. Had he never been President, she would never have been Senator.
Was she ever a city council member? mayor? Lt Governor? Governor? VP? Nope, she is just an ex-Governor’s wife and an ex-First Lady. Same as Rosilyn, same as Nancy, same as Laura.
She was never a community leader or community activist, nothing.
That is what did her in. She is an inexperienced 1.5 term Senator. Those sniper bullets she dodged helped do her in. The peace she brokered in N Ireland did her in. Taking credit for things she had NOTHING to do with did her in.
Tha and the fact that she is just part of the same old same old.
And now that Obama is the candidate, he’d sounding more like Bush, too by saying that he’ll do whatever is necessary to keep nukes out of Iran.
When Bush said that, the AJC and all the media jumped on him as just a warmonger. Now Obama says the same thing and…… deafening silence.
By Koz
June 4, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
Sexism? No - Socialism? Yes
By David
June 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
Hey Cynthia, sexism is when a woman votes for a woman when the prime reason is she is a woman. Is there a rule that only men can be sexist? It probably comes from the same rules that said white people can only be racist.
By WifeMotherUndeclared
June 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this
I am amazed at the level of ignorance and racism spewing in these threads. Who ever made the IGNORANT comment about ‘beer and dice’ in the White House should consider revealing their party allegiance - “starts with K and ends with K”. So stupid I swear…what educated adult says that type of stuff???
Senator Obama is a great man, and I look forward to all the forward progress he will take this country in. He will not choose Hillary/Billary as his VP, but if he does, he still gets my vote!!!
By rdbtwthlins
June 4, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Racism won Obama the nomination, and it will also lose him the national election.
By Cindy
June 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
It wasn’t sexism that made Hilary lose - its her total cluelessness on economic issues and the fact that she has zero idea of how to run this country. She’s a self-serving, righteous moron who should have bowed out months ago to save a shred of dignity and unite the democratic party. Instead she showed what she’s really made of - absolutely nothing buy arrogance. I hope we never hear from her again and the next woman we have the opportunity to vote for won’t be someone i’m TOTALLY ashamed to even see as a candidate.
By Cindy
June 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
It wasn’t sexism that made Hilary lose - its her total cluelessness on economic issues and the fact that she has zero idea of how to run this country. She’s a self-serving, righteous moron who should have bowed out months ago to save a shred of dignity and unite the democratic party. Instead she showed what she’s really made of - absolutely nothing but arrogance. I hope we never hear from her again and the next woman we have the opportunity to vote for won’t be someone i’m TOTALLY ashamed to even see as a candidate.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Scrappy, I don’t get you wrong…I don’t get you at all…Afterall, Florida and Michigan are republicans strongholds and have been for years…Why would you assume a riot would result.. Blacks and others did not riot when FL and MI committed voter fraud during Bush’s reign, she was already behind in delegate votes before then…So, I am confuse, Hillary nor Obama would have won Michigan and Florida against McCain…So, I don’t get it..
By hotlanta
June 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Hiliary is showing what the Rev. said all along she feels as if the slot for President it HERS. Somebody needs to call her at 3:00am and tell her that it is OVA. I would not want her as VP because yall know that she will be telling Kill Bill everythang that he does. She will be campaigning this year as if she is running for President and I can see Obama right now telling her to get back because she is really that arrogant.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
There is no such thing as “white guilt” something extreme loonies invented…Obama was backed by people who are tired of lame folks who still uses words like “colored, AA solely for blacks, white guilt if a white person supports a black…Because it surely couldn’t because they support his agenda…All throwbacks of 40, 50.60 mentalities…
If white folks have “guilty” slavery wouldn’t have lasted 350 years, Indians would not still be fighting for a paultry amount of its land, there would have been no camps for Asians during WW2, or other events…these acts against humanity can only be resolve through god…So no their is no such thing as white guilt…So many people for obvious reason are keeping this about black and white like we are still in the 40,50, and 60’s..America is not black and white anymore, we have many race/ethnic groups in the mix and haven’t you been listening Blacks are not the largest minority in the United States…Obama also won hawaii and Guam…So what guilt was they carrying…
One of the reasons Obama is so popular and has gone so far…It those old adages of yesteryears is today an embarassement to educated Americans
By reservoirDAWG
June 4, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Steve-o, what the he11 are you talking about? I think you should place your hand over your heart for the national anthem. It’s just what I think. As for hating America, I only hate the liberal, socialist politicians and their supporters. I have an idea. If you want the government to take care of you, then move to Europe. Loser.
By GatorBoyV
June 4, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
I am getting sick of these bloggers talking about Obama not being qualified! What pray tell has Hillary done… except be the Presidents wife! She got all of her positions from her relationship with her husband…..What has she done for NYC? What were Bushs qualifications? Lets talk about that one…it really looks like a 5 th grader has been running this country for the last 8 years! If the Hillary supporters are refusing to vote Democrat,and instead vote Republican because they lost…you aren`t true Americans…..to the people who stated “god help us now”….we have been praying for god to help us for they last 8 years….we need a CHANGE!
By Rennie
June 4, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
It is very disturbing reviewing the majority of these comments. All I have basically read are derogative comments regarding Clinton and Obama. Hillary did not divide the Democratic Party. We, the American voters, have. We are the ones not unified. We have been throwing rocks at each candidate. We have made ourselves (Democrats) look like fools in the eyes of the Republicans and ourselves.It will take us, not Clinton or Obama, to unify by November. GOD BLESS AMERICA is what we should focus on because God’s Will shall be done whether Obama is the right candidate or the wrong candidate. We never know until they take office and began to show true colors good or bad or even both. Somebody has to lead our country.
By Sam P Jackson
June 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
In poll after poll, 40-45% of voters have said they would NOT vote for HRC. I happen to think, objectively, she is more qualified than BHO, but she is -IMO-untrustworthy, corrupt, and insanely ambitious.
The Democrats chose between two of their three most un-qualified candidates (John Edwards 2nd), and have settled on the ONLY nominee who had a chance to lose to John McCain in November.
The first black President, and the first female President will be Republicans.
By hotlanta
June 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Hiliary how do you spell electable. O-B-A-M-A. They kept changing the rules to please her. Obama said great things about her and the only thing she could say was it is not over. Obama needs someone he can work with when the campaign is over. She might be able to get key states during the election but Obama is looking toward the future further down the road. I wonder how Oprah ratings are going to be now since Obama won. Will the white women stop watching in protest. NewsFlash Oprah has soooooo much money she doesn’t even care. You will not be missed. You can trust me on that one.
By hotlanta
June 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Hiliary how do you spell electable. O-B-A-M-A. They kept changing the rules to please her. Obama said great things about her and the only thing she could say was it is not over. Obama needs someone he can work with when the campaign is over. She might be able to get key states during the election but Obama is looking toward the future further down the road. I wonder how Oprah ratings are going to be now since Obama won. Will the white women stop watching in protest. NewsFlash Oprah has soooooo much money she doesn’t even care. You will not be missed. You can trust me on that one.
By Jane
June 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
“Regardless, any true American would place their hand over their heart when the national anthem is played.”
Beautifully stated ResoviorDAWG - Thank you
Nandi: A TRUE American stands up and puts their hand on their heart as soon as the flag is raised thru the anthem and the pledge!
By Rennie from ATL
June 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
I say again, it is very disturbing reviewing the majority of these comments. All I have basically read are derogative comments regarding Clinton and Obama. Hillary did not divide the Democratic Party. We, the American voters, have. We are the ones not unified. We have been throwing rocks at each candidate. We have made ourselves (Democrats) look like fools in the eyes of the Republicans and ourselves.It will take us, not Clinton or Obama, to unify by November. GOD BLESS AMERICA is what we should focus on because God’s Will shall be done whether Obama is the right candidate or the wrong candidate. We never know until they take office and began to show true colors good or bad or even both. Somebody has to lead our country. I do admit that I was not an Obama follower though I am a black (African American) highly educated female. My opinion about each candidate did not and will not have precedence over what God has ordained. GOD, continue to BLESS AMERICA.
By Body Odor
June 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
I’m not voting for anybody whose initials are “BO”.
By Gigi
June 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
NO, “sexism” didn’t doom Hillary. RACISM doomed her — you know it, I know it. Don’t care what you say, it’s the truth. Obamites do not care about ANYthing else. Believe it. Cause that’s the way it is.
By Lee Larson
June 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
THE MAIN REASON THIS COUNTRY IS SUCH A MESS IS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC STILL THINKS THAT THE AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IS ON THE LEVEL. NO ONE——LET ME REPEAT THAT——NO ONE CANDIDATE WE HAVE YET SEEN IS CAPABLE OF ACTUALLY RUNNING THE COUNTRY. *BUT, AS WE’VE SEEN, THERE ARE PLENTY WHO CAN BE BOUGHT UP AND MADE TO PLAY THE PART.
By nandi
June 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Jane, A true American would know the difference…You stated it was the pledge of allegience and not the anthem…so you saying putting your hand over your heart is more important than honesty, intergrity…you haven’t even admitted that is was the national anthem and not the pledge of allegience…Your words “no one who refuses to say the pledge to our flag (there is a photo of this early on - all potential candidates have hands on heart but Mr. Obama),….Why would he have to recite the pledge of allegience during the singing of the national anthem…? that is rude and disruptive I would think… and totally disrespectful of the singing of the national anthem…You do know “there is a no speaking or talking during the national anthem”…So which one is it..
I would think a true American as you profess to be would know all the right protocols…I never head anyone recite or say (as you posted) the pledge of allegience during the singing of the national anthem…When did that start?
By My name is not important from ATL
June 4, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Many of you are making very uneducated badly written comments. GOD BLESS AMERICA……
By nandi
June 4, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
I’m not voting for anybody whose initials are “BO”.
Good ideal, the proves our foreign allies correct on the intelligent levels of America to be a superpower and leader…Prime reason why quite a few nation will have nuclear capabilities…Afterall, if USA is so powerful and rightful leaders, they wouldn’t have followers who believes in initials as a barometer of someone’s intelligence LOL
By Tray
June 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Hey, to everyone figthing about the pledge/anthem bit-SHUT UP!
As much i dislike Obama, i will let the truth come out-his hand wasn’t over his heart because the ‘ceremony’ hadn’t begun. That argument is completely mute (and i hate Obama).
Instead, talk about his general disregard for white people and Americans. That’s much worse in my mind anyways. And just because he’s part white doesn’t mean he doesn’t hate them. 20 years in that church, married by the Rev., children christened by him…Obama hasn’t just dropped his BEST friend and SPIRITUAL COUNSELOR of the map. They are still very much friends.
Also, Hillary was done in by race, not by sex. Had Hillary been a black lady with the same experiences, she’d have won.
Oh, and being a former first lady is more experience in running the gov’t than Obama has!! Think about it, really…you think Bill actually ran the White House?!? Hell no, it was her dictating to Bill like all wives do! All married men think they have control, but the women really do, and I’m a man saying that!! You all know it’s true, don’t deny it!
By Gigi
June 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
You ask — Did sexism do Hillary in? No, resoundingly No. Quite obviously, racism did Hillary in — Obamites do not care about ANYthing else. They don’t care that he declared William(Bill)Ayers of the terrorist group known as Weathermen his “mentor,” that his pastor of 20 years preached shocking anti-American sermons, that Obama both financially and personally supported Louis Farrakhan (leader of the Nation of Islam, whose published goal is “to promote the belief that Allah will bring about a universal government of peace”), and they don’t care that Obama had meetings with Palestinians of questionnable background. These are just the rudimentary beginnings of reasoning for anyone with an ounce of American patriotism to stop and think before voting for Barack Hussein Obama.
By Body Odor
June 4, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Huh? Nandi - What you say? Methinks you left out a few verbs here and there, not to mention punctuation marks. You also need tutoring on the concept of the plural. Get back to me later, OK?
By Cary
June 4, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
In response to nandi. Govenors who are trying to run for President do not get divorced in the oval oofice is the next amibition. You make my point about right and wrong and the normal person.These rules do not apply in the political arena. Like I stated it is about protocol (government enforced), ego, money and back door deals. That is politics. The Clintons are a power COUPLE. They sink and swim together. There relationship is bigger than just them. Also, lest we not forget that not all first wives duties include simply being the doting wife of the president. Eleanor Roosevelt mean anything to anyone.
By Hmmmmm
June 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Sexism, I doubt Ms. Tucker even knows the true meaning of the word! Hillary lost because she is DEVOID of all morality. Hillary is a LIAR, EGOMANIAC, and a few other things. The democratic party is really in a MESS. They have NOBODY that comes close to being presidential….. Music to my ears!
By JW
June 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Hillary ran a great campaign, Obama just got a free ride from the media. And yes sexism did play a part especially in the democrat party and in the media. This country is more willing to pass off sexism than they are racism as being ok. Obama didn’t do anything so great by winning the nominee, its just that the media pounced on Hillary so bad and gave Obama a free ride.
By Este
June 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Sexism didn’t doom Hillary. She came in the presumptive front runner but Obama ran a better campaign. Besides, she lost any moral high ground or right to charge “sexism” by playing the race card as she has to try to win. You can’t enter the gutter and then decry it when some of it splatters onto you. Hillary ran a nasty and negative campaign and I as a white working woman am proud that I voted for Obama. He’s the better candidate and our next President. I just hope he doesn’t cave into pressure and put her on the ticket. That would truly doom him. Hillary is a divisive influence and the campaign she ran just punctuates that.
By linda
June 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
sexism didn’t ruin Hillary. Having the name Clinton and being married to Bill were her downfall. Not to mention her personality and attitude.
By OBAMA08
June 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
I am sure that it is killing a lot of racist people out there that there is actually a BLACK man running for president of the United States……He is educated, smart and can do 10 times better a job then that BUSH person can who sent over 1,000 people overseas in this senseless war to get killed…..
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
This is the year for OBAMA!
I’M OUT!
By OBAMA08
June 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
OBAMA CAN DO A WAY BETTER JOB THEN BUSH WHO HAS KILLED OVER 1,000 PEOPLE IN THIS POINTLESS, ENDLESS WAR AND WHO HAS PERSONALLY MADE OUR GAS PRICES GO UP AS HIGH AS THEY ARE.
WAKE UP PEOPLE! DON’T DISCOUNT OBAMA BECAUSE OF RACE!
LOOK WHAT THE WHITE MAN DID!
REPUBLICANS!OUT DEMOCRATS IN……………..
By luangtom
June 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Barack Hussein Obama…the skeletons will be coming out soon. Michelle Obama’s remarks may be just the start. And, it will be self-defeat just like Hilary Clinton. World Poverty Act, Second Amendment lies, past history and state legislature records will be haunting…….
By Goldie
June 4, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
I really wonder how “racism” could’ve caused Hillary to lose and for all these states to vote for Obama to be President:
Colorado, Virginia, Maryland, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, Washington, Alaska, Vermont, Montana and of course IOWA… damn, all those racist states voting for Obama! Otherwise, the Clintons would’ve really sewn up the nomination if not for all those racist states!
Too funny, some of you uneducated white voters…
By luangtom
June 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Oh, and let’s not forget being ignorant of the rants and raves of his pastor for the past twenty years. Was he asleep? Was he not paying attention? How could he not be aware of what was being said until it was pointed out now? Just remember Barack Hussein Obama….. self-defeat comes to all that plead ignorance.
By Hmmmmm
June 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Here we Go again! I am a racist because I see Obama for what he really is….. A guy in a suit who has said NOTHING of substance! Well almost nothing… He has said he will raise taxes. Take more money from the working class and redistribute. OBAMA08, do us all a favor and investigate the person your so passionate about. Unless your already a socialist, your the one who needs to WAKEUP!
By E B
June 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Hillary lost cuz she ran a horrible campaign. She changed her tactics soooo many times and in the end resorted to scare tactics. she deserved to lose. Now we have a choice between a man who my lack experience, but has the ability to adapt and learn, and a man who has experience and lacks ability to learn and is inflexible. You chose… I need someone that has something left in the tank to become a better man as President.
By E B
June 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Hillary lost cuz she ran a horrible campaign. She changed her tactics soooo many times and in the end resorted to scare tactics. she deserved to lose. Now we have a choice between a man who my lack experience, but has the ability to adapt and learn, and a man who has experience and lacks ability to learn and is inflexible. You chose… I need someone that has something left in the tank to become a better man as President.
By Mark
June 4, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Let me speak for Hillary…to all her haters.
KISS HER A**!
By Ellie Rosen
June 4, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Hilary’s hubris doomed her. She voted to give Bush war powers and she refused to acknowledge this mistake. She believed she was the presumptive nominee before the primaries began. Her old-school tacticians did not do their homework and failed her (caucuses, split of delegates, etc.). These mistakes have nothing to do with her politics, her sex, her religion, or anything else except her failure to run a good race. She camein second because hse deserved to only come in second. It was time in March for her to leave, it was time in April, in May and now in June. She lost. Move on.
By stone
June 4, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Sleeping with the president is not the major qualification I am looking for. Otherwise I would be looking for Monica to be running.
By ATLborn
June 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
CJ - Don’t u think if there was a tape of Michelle Obama spewing racist slurs like “whitey” out there that it would not have been released.
There is a double standard out here that a lotta white folks don’t wanna believe and black folks know to be true. McCain and Bush have tracked down to racist Bob Jones college for years seeking approval from those folks and hardly any non-black person says a bad word about that. You have thousands of people in Ohio, Penn, Kentucky and West VA saying they won’t vote for a man just because he’s black, never mind his politics, just because he’s black. Yet all of this is ignored and made out to be that Obama has a problem winning “working class” white votes rather than the obvious truth that those folks are racist relics that should be shunned by the country instead of having the media suggest that Obama needs to find a way to kiss their behinds.
Look at all the crazy preachers like Hagee that McCain deals with and the nuts like Robertson that Bush deals with. Robertson can be counted on annually to spew some racist BS but Bush never gets called out for associating with him. But when a black man attends a church of a black man that still has some resentment from racist treatment received in the past in America, then it is a problem. That’s BS.
I’m glad a lot of smart ppl out there see that Obama is exactly what this country needs now to get back on the right track. I look forward to reading all of the bellyaching comments that will be posted on spots like this one crying when he’s the President of these United States.
By JeremiahWright
June 4, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
Is Cynthia dooming the AJC? Yes.
By Nolan School
June 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
The country is as tired of the Clintons just like they are tired of the Bush family. Hillary won’t serve as VP, she’s already had that job for eight years….
By jasper
June 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
Hillary is the first serious female candidate ever. And just like any other woman who dares to reach for the top in a man’s world, she was portrayed and perceived as a B***. Men can get away with mean spritidness and call it competition or politics, but when a woman does it she will get derided. Hillary has twice the qualifications of Obama, and has the only chance of beating McCain in the general. Forget the VP slot, she should run Independent. Women Unite!
By onoudidnt
June 4, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
But, if she was a black lady and lost, it definitely would have been because of racism. What ism can we use to call Hussein Obama when all of our paychecks go down a month after he takes office?
By JeremiahWright
June 4, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
ATLBorn’s just another nut who thinks Obama has something to offer. He’s a leftwing loon who has no solution. “Change” and “hope” are not solutions. They’re ideals, and they don’t scare Iran, improve the economy, secure our borders, or deter the terrorists. Obama CHOSE to associate with raving racists, and no one Bush, Cheney, or McCain has EVER associated with comes close. Obama associated with them for 20 years. The Repubs might have met them in passing, and McCain even rejected Hagee’s support last week. Obama still hasn’t come down hard on Wright or Pfleger. Obama’s done. He will be beaten badly in November. You can count on it. He’s only on top because he’s black anyway.
By AL
June 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
I can not denounce my husband Bill, no more than I can denounce the whole female community.
By jasper
June 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
This country is not yet ready for a black president, as evident by the fact that some 35% of whites won’t vote for him because he’s black, and 95% of blacks are voting for him.
These numbers need to come way down to reflect that we are electing someone based upon their qualifications and not their skin color.