Opinion Talk

By jasper

May 30, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this

This is really a pathetic question. Why not just put up a blog asking if Bush is anti-gay. That would stir up the hatred. Ridiculous!

By K

May 30, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

I was born left-handed. I was born with my father’s long nose and wish my mother’s long legs. And I was born a lesbian.

None of these characteristics disqualify me from serving as president or in any other elective or appointive office, just as none of these characteristics entitle me to any office.

I am who I am. If I could convince voters of my abilities to serve them well, they should elect me on that basis, not because of the fact — or in spite of the fact — that I’m a woman, white, a lesbian, middle-aged, Democratic, liberal, or anything else. Period.

By matt

May 30, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

I agree. We shold move passed this nonsense. Instead AJC feeds off stirring it up. Pathetic.

By matt

May 30, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

I agree. We shold move passed this nonsense. Instead AJC feeds off stirring it up. Pathetic.

By bronco

May 30, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

The White House could stand a redecorating

By James

May 30, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

What about a pedophile president. You know, one who doesn’t act it out (that would be against the law) but just one who has those inclinations.

And then, one with multiple wives. First, Second and Third Ladies!

If you can’t draw the line somewhere - you can’t draw it anywhere.

By Volunqueer

May 30, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

If you check your history books on President James Buchanan, you’ll discover we have already had a gay president.

By James

May 30, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

To Volunqeer:

That’s debatable but if so he didn’t make a big deal of it. That’s the problem. We’re tired of having it shoved in our faces. Tolerance is one thing but it doesn’t mean elevating someone’s lifestyle or beliefs to the same level as one’s own. We’re tired of the recruiting of our young people and the political agenda.

By Caroline

May 30, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

James: What does a pedophile have to do with a gay adult? Being gay doesn’t make someone a child abuser any more than being straight would make someone a child abuser.

Believe it or not, most pedophiles, regardless of the sex of the children they abuse—consider themselves heterosexual.

And what does a gay president have to do with a polygamist? Those are clearly distinct, separate ideas, especially since polygamists are HETEROSEXUAL.

You “slippery” slope people are neanderthals. Go back into you cave until you can make a more coherent argument to discriminate against someone solely based on their sexual orientation instead of the content of their character.

By Charles

May 30, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

I would not vote for a homosexual if he/she has a desire to openly promote that lifestyle; or has “come out of the closet” in an overwhelming heterosexual society. I believe that alternative lifestyles are extremely personal; and they should not be shared or forced upon the general public.

If a person is seeking public office, including the Presidency, and I suspect that his/her sexual orientation is homosexual, my suspicion whether true or false wouldn’t prevent me from casting a vote for the best available candidate.

By zeke

May 30, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Boy, just what we need! There are enogh degenerates running from the demogog party, We do not need another immoral degenerate running for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By James

May 30, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Dear Caroline:

You make my point. They are all a serious character flaw:

Heterosexual Adultery Homosexuality Pedophilia Polygamy

I would never knowingly vote for a President who pushes any of them.

P.S. Most people who openly support alternative lifestyles do so to subliminally assuage their own activities (i.e., the sexual sin of adultery). It’s makes them feel better.

By James

May 30, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

P.S. to Caroline:

And yes before you reply I am a sinner also. The difference is I don’t try to JUSTIFY my actions before a Holy God. I repent, ask for forgiveness and seek to not go down that path again.

By Copyleft

May 30, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Zeke: We do not need another immoral degenerate running for President!

Then by all means… don’t run. Homophobes are the worst kind of immoral degenerates—and they’re anti-American, to boot!

By CJ

May 30, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

It fires me up every time someone lumps us gays into the pedophile category. Good grief! I am 30 years old and my partner is the same age. We’ve been together for years (plural) and neither of us are attracted to younger men, let alone children! You people need to get a life!
And BTW - This gay wouldn’t want to be president of a country full of so much hate (re: gay bashers, Rev. Wright, W Bush, Pat Robertson, etc.).

By Wild Bill Hiltner

May 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

K - you weren’t born a lesbian - you choose to commit lesbian acts - you could commit hetero acts with some self control - there are plenty of good church camps and programs that could turn you normal - but, at the end of the day, you’re no different than the person who chooses to smoke, or eat too much, or tan all year round; so do what you want

By CJ

May 30, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Wild Bill Hiltner, with your logic, someone chooses to be gay - Yes or No decision. If they choose No, they choose to be straight. That would mean all of the straights also experienced that same decision and make a choice to be straight.

I’m a gay man who knew he was gay in 7th grade middle school. We had no gay people around us in our neighborhood or family, so I had no cultural influence. I just came to realize a natural attraction to guys. Plain and simple.

By Noelle

May 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

James, I assume you won’t be voting for John McCain, then. He did, after all, have an affair with his current wife while still married to his previous one.

By John

May 30, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

I say this as a gay man:

It will never happen, at least not in the next 100 years. That’s because it is going to take several generations before people become sensible enough to realize that what one does in the privacy of his or her bedroom has nothing to do with his or her ability to lead the country.

By Daedalus

May 30, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

Hmmm. What scares the right-wingnuts more — the possibility that someone might be gay or worse, an atheist?

I think it would be an atheist, at least a gay or lesbian has a chance at redemption.

By R

May 30, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Of course he didn’t make a big deal about it, it was 1857!!! AND he was running for president. DUH

By john

May 30, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

No gays allowed running a country that was founded on GODLY Principle and GODLY Morels!! We need to stand for God and not what a person believe they are. Male Apes don’t sleep with male Apes nor do Male Tigers sleep with Male Tigers. Who is the smarter one?

By RealityKing

May 30, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Hey! Haven’t you guys heard about the new research results of homosexual genes?

In the new work they have discovered a gene in fruit flies they call “genderblind,” or GB. And altering levels of glutamate change the strength of nerve cell junctions, called synapses, which play a key role in human and animal behavior. Researchers found that all male fruit flies with a mutation in their GB gene courted other males. “It was very dramatic,” “The GB mutant males treated other males exactly the same way normal male flies would treat a female.”

The researchers genetically altered synapse strength, independent of GB. They also gave flies drugs to alter synapse strength. As predicted, they were able to turn fly homosexuality on and off, within hours. “It was amazing, said one researcher. I never thought we’d be able to do that sort of thing, because sexual orientation was supposed to be hard-wired,” “This fundamentally changes how we think about this behavior.”

You see, being gay is not genetic after all. In fact, we may soon have a glutamate pill to cure it. Would you take it to be normal? Or would you then think that un-normal??

By RealityKing

May 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

So…. How about a purple presidential candidate? That would definitely be genetic…

By r

May 30, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

John - You should do your homework. Homosexual behavior has been detected in every species on the planet. Read up boy.

By Tim

May 30, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

The AJC does love to bait us on stuff like this but I’ll bite.

CJ, I figured out I liked to steal candy from K-mart when I was in the 7th grade, it is still sin. We are all born with a sin nature that manifests itself differently in each individual and some happens to be an attraction to the same sex while some are cruel to others or prideful or whatever. What matters is how we act on this nature and whether we figure out the only true way to conquer it is through the one that can offer true forgiveness and redemtion from it. I agree that we live in a hypocritical society that gives a pass to heteralsexual sin and condems the ones that aren’t an issue for most. It all comes down to our actions and the choices we make in life, not doing what we “feel” is right to us. Humans are flawed and can’t depend on their own moral compass. We need and have a standard bearer to measure up to. I encourage you to seek him out and he’ll change your heart.

No better than the rest only forgiven and working to be better by Christ’s standard.

By Rudwaan Amen_Ra Lumumba

May 30, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

**The U.S. could soon have something it’s never had: a black or a female president.

“But what if one of the presidential candidates was gay?”**

Your innuendo that gay is somehow in the same category as Black (race) appears to be the true motive for this op-ed piece. How about this question, Since America has been electing caucasians to the presidency since its inception when will it finally elect someone openly gay?

By s

May 30, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

r,

Speak for yourself. If you want to be lumped in with animals or species, feel free and continue to act like one. It’s part of your free will and discernment that you have been blessed with.

By Pandora

May 30, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Once again a person does NOT have a choice as to what they are born (black,white, male, or female), but they DO have a choice regarding their sexuality. NO I would NOT vote for a homosexual person for anything!

By Doc

May 30, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

What’s worse? A gay president or a Christian president who lies and fabricates false evidence for a war that has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans, Iraqies and Coalition forces? Use your brain for once, and not just your rhetoric and emotional pleas.

Everything that God does is well done. As God saw fit to create homosexuality in animals and men (every species on earth), then I say - Good for God - You Go God!

By Wild Bill Hiltner

May 30, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

CJ - you’re not getting it, bub - you don’t choose to be gay, you choose to do gay things - when I drive on 285, I get the impulse to kill people, but I don’t do it; that’s called control - you don’t have to be an h-mo, you can live a normal life - you have a bigger problem than how society views you if you whole persona and modus operendi is driven by your sex impulses

By Pandora

May 30, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

K- you were NOT born gay girl! Please! You chose to be gay! I can’t stand it when homosexuals keep insisting that they were born gay! THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM HELL! Don’t believe the lie and get saved!

By Pandora

May 30, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

K- you were NOT born gay girl! Please! You chose to be gay! I can’t stand it when homosexuals keep insisting that they were born gay! THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM HELL! Don’t believe the lie and get saved!

By Pandora

May 30, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

K- you were NOT born gay girl! Please! You chose to be gay! I can’t stand it when homosexuals keep insisting that they were born gay! THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM HELL! Don’t believe the lie and get saved!

By Charles

May 30, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

What a pathetic question. America will not elect an openly gay person, a woman, or a person of color.

The “White Man-Only” House will remain in tact.

White people and Asians, and Mexicans can rest easy, Siesta, if you want to.

By Tim

May 30, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

That’s the way to win them, Pandora. C’mon!

By Doc

May 30, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

To John: If this country was founded on Godly principals, why did so many of the founders still own slaves? The issue is not what one calls themselves, it’s about what they do. We may say the country was founded on godly principals, but in reality, it was founded on devilish principals that endorsed the owning of slaves, the frequent killing and raping of slaves, the separation of families, and the killing of Native Americans. I hope these are not the Godly principals you are referencing.

To Wild Bill? Having the frequent urge to kill people while driving is indicative a sociopathic inclinations. You might want to see someone about that.

By Slotl

May 30, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Gay, straight, black, Asian, White, Latino, female or male. It doesn’t matter. Magilla Gorilla could do a better job then Dubya as President.

Remember it was Rove who pushed this “gay” thing as a smokescreen in the last election. Now that Rove is gone, we can get back to being a “civilized” democracy where EVERYONE is EQUAL.

By Doc

May 30, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Pandora - You were not born into sin!!! Please! You chosse to consider yourself a sinner! I can’t stand it when Christians keep insisting that they were born as sinners! THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM HELL! Don’t believe the lie and get saved!

By Doc

May 30, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Pandora - You were not born into sin!!! Please! You choose to consider yourself a sinner! I can’t stand it when Christians keep insisting that they were born as sinners! THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM HELL! Don’t believe the lie and get saved!

By Doc

May 30, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Pandora - You were not born into sin!!! Please! You choose to consider yourself a sinner! I can’t stand it when Christians keep insisting that they were born as sinners! THAT IS A LIE STRAIGHT FROM HELL! Don’t believe the lie and get saved!

By Slotl

May 30, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Pandora, Why are you getting your panties in an uproar?

You are born gay. Science proves that it is not a “choice”.

Unfortunately, you probably don’t believe in science either (evolution vs. creationism).

Get with the program, this IS the 21st century!!

By Captain Crunch

May 30, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Slotl, Take a history lesson and do some research. We are NOT a Democracy, regardless of what W or anyone else calls it. This is a Constitutional Republic. Democracy is mob rule, which is what we are turning into. Our founders were smart enough to know that wouldn’t work.
Read “America: The Last Best Hope Volume 1” by Bill Bennett

By RealityQueen

May 30, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Hey RealityKing,

To borrow a phrase from Jurassic Park: “gays will find a way”.

By the way, fruitflies are a pretty pitiful example..I mean males and females pretty much look the same.

Now if those male fruit flies all had six packs and tight little butts it would be a more meaningful study.

By GaLiberal

May 30, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

For me, I don’t care if the person is male or female, white or non-white, gay or straight, atheist or Christian or Muslim. All I care is they are a true Democrat.

It’s pathetic that people still use the extracurricular attributes to judge the worth of another person. Look at all the hate laws and state constitutional amendments that were passed barring gays from the same Riggs as non-gays. I thought we were all through with a segregated society.

Apparently, the Rethuglicons have taken the ‘divide and conquerer’ approach to winning elections. Make everyone else unacceptable so their candidates are the only ones left to elect. Just look at the smear campaign Chambliss ran on Max Cleland. Comparing Cleland with bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. “If you’re not with us; you’re against us” saith George Bush. That kind of irrational logic can be applied to any group.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And these hate laws are living proof.

By Charles

May 30, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

I happen to be gay. I knew I preferred boys when I was 5. I knew nothing about sex when I was 5. Your choice theory is bunk - it belongs with those theories about the earth being flat. BUT far more importantly, my God - yes the very one from the Old AND New Testament - who I have know all my life, who has saved me many times and who I communicate with every day of my life, told me through my communications with HIM and through the Holy Words of the Bible that HE and HE alone will judge me and tell me what is a sin and what sins I may have committed during my mortal life when I reach the gates to the Kingdon of Heaven and whether I deserve any punishment in the afterlife or if I am forgiven by HIM and taken into Heaven. So please, don’t tell any human being what sins they may or may not have committed, unless you can show them an Amendment to the Bible in which God tells us that HE has delegated HIS authority and power to judge mankind to you or any other being on this planet!

By John

May 30, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Wild Bill Hitler,

Your example is what we call a “false analogy”. Physical and emotional attraction is not analagous to your violent impulses in traffic. Stop being intellectually dishonest…bub.

I did not choose who I am attracted to. I do choose whether to act on it or not.

It’s not illegal, my family supports me, and I’m not religious (so I don’t give squat what the bible says).

So I can’t see any reason why I shouldn’t act on my innate (that means “born with”) attraction to other men…

except one: my monogamous partner.

And by the way, it is people like you that define us only by our sexual activity, not us.

By Blkshepherd

May 30, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

My gosh they should name blogs Vent boards for A-holes. Pandora your mother father sister boyfriend husband is probably gay is gay and you dont have a clue. Judgement is for the creator. So your not gay, but your a lyer, thief, adulter, and god only knows what else. Fact is if your human you are a sinner and no sin is lesser than the other in the eyes of the creator. When judgement day come be concerned about your own shortcomings and leave the judging to the Most High.

By C

May 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

I love how people who are straight try to tell us gays that we weren’t born that way. How the hell does a straight person know if a gay person was born that way? I know I’m gay, and I was born this way. And with that being said, how can being something that God made you as be a sin? It’s impossible.

It still puzzles me as to why someone would even care who I sleep with or marry. It has absolutely no impact on anyone else in this world but my partner and me.

By CJ

May 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Sorry, you ignorant people - being gay is not a choice and based upon the God I worship, I won’t be going to Hell when I die. I worship a God of love, not a God of selective inclusion. No one in their right mind would choose to be gay and become a target of your earthly punishment! I try to avoid drama at any turn, so it’s completely illogical to assume that I chose to be gay and can change my natural attractions.

Alas, making logical arguments to emotionally-charged people gets me nowhere. You guys have a blessed day.

By C

May 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

To those who say being gay is a choice, here is a challenge. Without invoking religion, prove to me that my being gay is a choice. I’ll betcha $100 you can’t do it!

By Leon

May 30, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

I’d vote for a gay candidate if he was hot!!

By bdawk

May 30, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Wild Bill and Pandora sound fun to hang out with. I would like to know when each of you “chose” to be heterosexual. Did you make a list? Weigh the pros and cons? At what age? Maybe try each sex out? Experiment and then make an informed decision? No. It was a feeling or attraction that was BORN into you.

As for the Bible - nice collection of stories. Read Leviticus 11:1-47. It says not to eat pigs, shellfish, rabbits, ostrich and more - I’m sure you’re already following those words though.

BTW, I’m straight and don’t really care what race, sex or sexual preference our president is so long as they do a good job.

By James

May 30, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

This is intended ONLY for gay people out there who claim to be born-again Christians. Everyone else please ignore it:

Romans 1: 26 & 27 (From the Apostle Paul)

26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

AND - if you don’t like what Paul said then here is what the Apostle Peter says about what Paul wrote:

2 Peter 3: 14-16

14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

TAKE IT UP WITH GOD ………… AND IF THAT MEANS CELIBACY - SO BE IT.

By Mike

May 30, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

I like Neal Boortz’s response to a caller who said that people choose to be gay - “Sir, can you describe the point in your life when you chose to be straight?”

By bdawk

May 30, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

James, I’m sorry I left you out. I’m having a big bbq and crawfish boil tomorrow if you’d like to come

By silence

May 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

This is intended ONLY for gay people out there who claim to be born-again Christians.

silence…[cricket]..chirp, chirp..

silence…[tumbleweed blowing in wind]

By Kim

May 30, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

“We’re tired of having it shoved in our faces. Tolerance is one thing but it doesn’t mean elevating someone’s lifestyle or beliefs to the same level as one’s own. We’re tired of the recruiting of our young people and the political agenda.” Um, tolerance DOESN’T mean elevating someone’s beliefs to the same level as one’s own??? Ooooo-kkkkkkk. The recruiting - thanks for the laugh. Is this still 1950? Well, it is GA.

Word up: “The ‘White Man-Only’ House will remain in tact.” All you have to do is read the comments on this hate-filled board. You GO christians!!!

By John

May 30, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

James,

Are you kidding?

Most people who openly support alternative lifestyles do so to subliminally assuage their own activities (i.e., the sexual sin of adultery). It’s makes them feel better.

My mother, brother, neighbor, employer all have shown support for me. I’m pretty sure that it’s not because they are trying to make themselves feel better about their own behavior.

C’mon..that was pretty dumb..

You need to get out more

By Slotl

May 30, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Kim, You can say “go Christian”…..but don’t lump ALL Christians into your neo-con mindset. Some are quite open-minded, follow the teachings of the Bible and are “RESPECTFUL” of others who are not like then.

Hmmmm……isn’t that what the bible says…..”do unto others as you would have them do unto you?”

By gttim

May 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

That’s the problem. We’re tired of having it shoved in our faces.

And that is how we feel about you religious nuts.

And Doc and Panda, you only need to hit the submit button once. It is not that hard…

By Chris Q

May 30, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

To all these wonderful people that think being gay is a choice, when did you choose to be straight? Does that mean you have gay impulses and choose to fight them???

Your circular argument is very flawed. By the very statement that we have a choice, means you had a choice ( and gay desires as well) and that makes you by definition at least Bisexual!!!

So all you “Pro Choice” in the gay is a choice argument, its time to come out of your closet. Oh, what is this??? you never had any gay thoughts or desires??? So you mean your heterosexuality isn’t a choice???

You can’t have it both ways. If you think its a choice then that means you had to choice between your. desires for men and women. If you never had these desires, then maybe I never had any desires to be straight either!

By neil

May 30, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

i think u are all missing the point here , soz im english interested in usa policies, the person u vote for should be someone u can look up to , i cant see america voting in a black, woman or gay socialist, i can see america voting for a black, woman or even a gay conservative, the demorcrats are dying , socialism doesnt work, take a look at magna brittanica

By kim

May 30, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Slotl: I don’t know whether to laugh or be horrified that someone thinks I’m a conservative AND/OR a christian.

By Crazymakin

May 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

AJC, why oh why do you insist on asking these questions? It it for ratings?… sadistic sense of humor?… what??? All you are achieving is giving ignorant mean people a place to rant about their rediculous religious beliefs and bigotry. Please, stop the madness.

By neil

May 30, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

kim political afiliation isnt important being a christian however is the only glue that holds us together, u dont have to believe in christ to be a christian, i am agnostic but believe i do my best to help anyone in need

By Kim

May 30, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

You know what else is important? Spelling and punctuation.

By neil

May 30, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

lol sorry my daughters fault, stupid text speak.

By tony

May 30, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

Of course a gay president would be ok. We gays are normal & pretty much like everyone else (except we tend to have better taste).

Besides, we couldn’t possibly have a worse president than the one we have now… heck, even a chimpanzee would be an improvement over the current unelected misleader!

By C

May 30, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

“By C

May 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

To those who say being gay is a choice, here is a challenge. Without invoking religion, prove to me that my being gay is a choice. I’ll betcha $100 you can’t do it! “

Looks like nobody could. I guess I’ll hold onto my $100 and spend it on my husband! (and yes I’m a man)