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DEL.ICIO.USPresident Bush calls Barack Obama an appeaser?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
This from the Associated Press: “In a speech in Israel, President Bush, without naming names, criticized those who “believe we should negotiate with the terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.” He called the approach “the false comfort of appeasement,” and one that has been discredited by history.
The strong words came as the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, Sen. Barack Obama, has expressed a willingness to meet with the leaders of U.S. adversaries, including Iran and Syria. However, White House press secretary Dana Perino flatly rejected the idea that the Knesset remark was aimed in any way at Obama, and Johndroe said Bush was referring to “a wide range of people who have talked to or suggested we talk to Hamas, Hezbollah or their state sponsors.” Former President Carter recently held talks with Hamas leaders.
Obama said in a statement that “it is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel.”
Was Bush talking about Obama? And does his criticism have merit. Will it help or hurt Obama to be attacked by President Bush?
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By The Truth
May 15, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Bush needs to attack Obama Hussein over this. Obama Hussein wants to befriend our enemies. By the way, Hamas has fully endorsed Obama Hussein. That right there tells me all I need to know about Obama Hussein Bin Laden.
By AH
May 15, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
I think he was talking to a lot of people, Barack was just one of those people.
And he is right.
By Logical Dude
May 15, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Wow, Truth, you are so blind. When Reagan reached out to “our enemies” in Russia, was he wrong?
Wait, nevermind, you won’t listen to anything anyone says, so I guess it’s not worth the effort.
But Bush is misrepresenting anyone who wants peace, and is willing to talk to all sides to bring about that peace.
Unfortunately, the path of “not talking at all” has not brought us any closer to peace, so maybe dialogue can help the situation. Maybe not, but until talks are underway, NO progress can be claimed.
By dumassdave
May 15, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
Bush is an idiot! We will not be mislead again!!
And besides, everybody already knows that Obama is going to ingeniously out negotiate every tyrant, dictator and terrorist looking to destroy American. Just like he did with Hillary!!!
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
Logical Dude, Reagan took down the USSR if I remember history correct. And, the Soviets didn’t back him for president. Hammas has endorsed Obama Hussein for president. That’s a fact my friend.
By the way, peace doesn’t happen without force. If you know of a case where peace just happens then please let me know. Because the arabs have been hating jews and americans for years. Dialogue does nothing but give our enemies time to kill us.
dumassdave, Last time I checked, Bin Laden was a lot tougher to deal with than Hillary. Obama Hussein will be praying to Mecca five times a day and won’t care what our enemies do to us.
By Jeff
May 15, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Yeah, bush, the most disastrous president for American foreign policy in history is exactly the guy you want to listen to eh? I guess Nixon shouldn’t have met with Mao and Reagan shouldn’t have met with Gorbachev?
By just me
May 15, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
First of all, Reagan talked to our enemies in order to end the Cold War. Bill Clinton got Israel to meet with Arafat before Rabin was assassinated. Why can’t Bush do that?
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Jeff, Bush is the worst? Last time I checked Carter was by far the worst.
By Ruby Freeman
May 15, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
The point is you cannot negogiate with terrorists or teenagers? Terrorists are out to get us period. We have tried the negogiate route for years and where has it gotten us. Reagan did not negogiate he told them very plainly to take down the wall. A position of power. Someone who will not vote for Barack Obama simply because he has no idea of how to lead this nation. Change can be downhill. Ruby Freeman
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
just me, Where did Arafat meeting go? More Jews were killed by his terrorist organization. Reagan worked to have the USSR bankrupt. You can not talk to people who want to kill you. Talk does nothing. Bill Clinton got us bombed four times. Peace can only be attained through strength.
By Craig
May 15, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Obama Hussein? Obama Houssein? How many idiots believe that myth that Barrack is a Muslum? After 7+ years with Bush I’d welcome any president with a leadership skill set whether he/she was Muslum or not. Here is a revelation: Most Muslums are peaceful,loving people.Christians also. We all have our share of crazies. We just need to push ours out of the White House.
By We The People
May 15, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
If Bush think it is a bad idea, than I KNOW it must be exactly what the country needs. Forgive me for disrespecting our President, but he has dicrespected the American people whom I love and am a part of. Mr. President please just go away, or do you think you hold any sway to Jewish Americans, and if you do God help us all.
By Call it Like it is
May 15, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Craig,
U sir are a moron!
Stop smoking Crack and listed to Rush, Sean, O’Rilley, and Fox News for true facts on politics and stop listening to your movie star friends & left talking points.
As I see it, we have not been hit since 911!
Took a dictator out of power who murdered his own people and wanted to kill Americans!
Face the facts, Republicans, represent the true America that this country was built upon.
Turn a new leaf and stop blaming and start doing!
By The Real Truth
May 15, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
The Real Truth is that the White House is about to get an “Extreme Home Makeover”, like it or not!
By John
May 15, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
[Lies]ByTheTruth: you’re using false history. Reagan did not take down the Soviets anymore than Ike took down the North Koreans. Both merely ended a conflict. Period. “Peace doesn’t happen without force.” Take Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Mandella. Explain. Hamas was elected. Are you proposing that we don’t talk to elected entities? that we don’t recogize the legitmacy of legal, proper elections? Bin Laden is not tough. Tough guys don’t need to hide.
By edvol
May 15, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
Let’s listen to Bush on foreign diplomacy — and didnt we do some talking a time or two with the North Vietnamese? How quickly conservatives forget how their presidents who had at least a sense of diplomacy handled foreign relations. And idiot — it’s Barack Hussein Obama, not Obama Hussein. If you are going to be a bigot and fear monger, at least be smart about it!
By edvol
May 15, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
Let’s listen to Bush on foreign diplomacy — and didnt we do some talking a time or two with the North Vietnamese? How quickly conservatives forget how their presidents who had at least a sense of diplomacy handled foreign relations. And idiot — it’s Barack Hussein Obama, not Obama Hussein. If you are going to be a bigot and fear monger, at least be smart about it!
By Kuriakose Pilkeel
May 15, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Three boys were walking the country side when a mad dog came to attack. One boy got scared and started to run. The dog cahsed and bit him. The second boy chased and threw stones at the dog.The Dog turned against him to fight back. The third boy stood firm, had no fear on face and stared at the dog as if questionning it “why”. The dog got scared, became silent and walked away. Terrorists are not different from mad dogs ( and snakes). “Talk” to them. Show no fear.Be willing and ready to strike if they dont listen. They will turn back and leave.
By Taghi
May 15, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
I am looking forward to change. I genuinely think any change will be better than the current situation, both with our local and foreign policy. Just compare this administration with any other ones. Are we really better off now? BTW, most of the terrorists came from Suadi Arabia, ” our allies”
By bob
May 15, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Please read and tell me if we are not talking to our enimies.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-12-26-tribal-sheiks_N.htm
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
John, So the USSR just happened to fall apart. And, I guess the Nazis just decided to stop killing Jews. Hamas was elected by a bunch of idiots who want to exterminate jews. MLK and Ghandi were both killed. What did they accomplish? India is a depressing third world country and blacks are being exploited by democrats and the al sharptons.
edvol, Husein Obama is his name. I’m a bigot? Nope. Just smart enough to know what a muslim really is. You are the idiot.
By Dee
May 15, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
We haven’t been attacked since 9/11? What a pointless statement disguised as an argument. We also haven’t been hit by an asteroid, been bombed by the Japanese, nor attacked by the Viet Cong since then. Don’t give Bush credit for nothing happening. What you CAN give him credit for is:
P. S. Reagan also dealt directly with the enemy (Iranian terrorists) both to get elected (remember the hostages) and the Iran Contra Scandal.
And peace doesn’t happen by itself? It’s been a while since someone attacked Switzerland. Maybe it pays to mind your own business.
By Brian
May 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Mr. Bush’s comments are disingenuous and really kind of laughable considering that this is the man who has single handedly ruined our reputation in the world and our economy with his lurching foreign policy and his notion that he is the savior of the world. These comments like Bush himself are irrelevant and if he had any intelligence at all he would keep his mouth shut until he can slink back to Crawford, TX like the failure he is.
By Young Atheart
May 15, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Another example of Obama’s foreign policy judgement You decide…
August 2007 debate: Obama makes vocal case for striking terrorists inside Pakistan “Let me make this clear: There are terrorists holed up in those mountains, that murdered 3,000 Americans,” said Obama during the counterterrorism address. “If we have actionable intelligence about high-valued terrorist targets and if President Musharraf will not act, we will.” http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3458915
McCain, Hillary, Dodd, Biden all critisize him saying we should not be working against Musharraf our only advocate in the region
December 2007: Bhutto assassinated by terrorists
The Washington Post reported that in late January, a CIA aircraft fired on several buildings in the Pakistani town of Mir Ali, killing a senior al-Qaida commander and several others. The paper, quoting anonymous U.S. officials, said that the action was done without seeking approval from the Pakistani government.
Mid February ‘08, Musharraf voted out of power; US has spent $11B trying to prop. up Musharraf
Late February, Senator Dodd endorsed Obama
Obama’s 2002 NO-HOLDS-BARRED Iraq speech took real courage. It risked his Senate run (announced 3 months later)WHILE the wise-men/women of Congress took comfort in voting as group to support the Iraq war resolution. http://www.digg.com/politics/FulltextofBarackObamas2002SpeechAgainsttheIraq_War
By Just Nasty and Mean
May 15, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
Bush was NOT speaking specifically to Obama.
…but if the shoe fits—wear it!
By Michael
May 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Bush’s comments were more likely aimed at Jimmy Carter rather than Obama. Especially when one considers where he said this, who he was speaking to, and Carter’s recent meeting with Hamas.
By Pancho
May 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Where is “The Truth”? I guess he is at lunch I enjoy his ignorant red neck comments. They make for a good laugh. Its people like him that has the rest of the country thinking the South is stuck in 1935.
By Jennifer
May 15, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Truth, you’re the reason people the world over think Americans are stupid.
Hand in your passport. You don’t deserve it.
By Copyleft
May 15, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
Being attacked by Bush can only help a candidate’s chances these days. Bush’s “legacy” is set in stone—the Worst President Ever.
But I don’t think he was dumb enough to name Obama specifically… and besides, Obama has never recommended “negotiating with terrorists” as our national-defense policies.
Only an utter fool—like “The Truth”—would say such a thing.
No, Bush probably WAS talking about Carter, the only major political figure he thinks he can beat these days. And that’s just because Jimmy’s so old.
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Pancho, Swim back to Mexico would you.
Jennifer, I could care less what third world countries think of Americans. That would include you. If you’d care to elaborate on how I lied then feel free to tell me. Otherwise please shut up and get back work. Unless that is, you don’t have a job and rely on mommy and daddy to pay your rent.
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Copyleft, Hussein Obama said it himself. On live television. Go suck on that. Besides, Hammas has already given their support to him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0E81nEn0fE
By Copyleft
May 15, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Yeah, that’s a great attitude for setting foreign policy: “We don’t care WHAT the rest of the world thinks of us! What are they gonna do, hijack a plane or something?”
Bush didn’t learn from 9/11, or from anything else. We need an administration that CAN learn.
By Fred Mertz
May 15, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
KICK THEIR A$$, TAKE THEIR GAS!
KICK THEIR A$$, TAKE THEIR GAS!
KICK THEIR A$$, TAKE THEIR GAS!
KICK THEIR A$$, TAKE THEIR GAS!
By Copyleft
May 15, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Another lie, TheLies. Saw the video; nowhere does Obama recommend “negotiate with terrorists” as our national defense policy.
But hey, what do facts matter when you’ve got hatred to burn?
By Fred
May 15, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Hey, Copyleft
Obama is on the record wanting to talk to Iran. The State Department considers them a state sponsor of terrorism. What do you call that?
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iGhhZKHfRJL7pXZGbC1qoPt1hk4g
By HARRY
May 15, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
I think that the more he talks to terrorists, the more he looks like Curious George. What do y’all think?
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Copyleft, No kidding, moron. He has support from Hammas. Hussein Obama is really a muslim.
By Get it Right
May 15, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
I think Mr. Bush was speaking about Obama and all the other liberals who think they can “negotiate” with those Islamofacist terrorists. I suppose it’s the Facist part of the equation that Obama finds so endearing.
By Neville Chamberlain
May 15, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
I agree with Brian. Bush is not smart enough to attack Obamma (with a cogent, logical, historically accurate argument). Iraq/The Middle East in 2003 has not connection to Germany/Europe in 1939. Nazi Germany was a unified nation and by 1940, had annexed, invaded and occupied just about all of Western Europe. Iraq had “15 minutes of fame” in Kuwait in 1990. It was somewhat stable under Saddam, but it has always been, and will continue to be a nation divided by sectarian difference, which have existed for thousands of years. I wonder if Bush is aware of the irony in his statement? There have been countless “ingenious arguement(s)” (CIA and Department of State Studies, etc.), which clearly demonstrate that he “has been wrong all along”. At the end of the day, the decision to invade and occupy Iraq (for whatever reason) was the wrong one. His “policy” is a failure (just as Neville Chamberlain’s policy of appeasement was a failure. Conservative Bush-backers can play with Obama’s middle name all they like, and they can line up like the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil monkeys they are (how’s that for looking like Curious George?), but the Commander-in-Chief is a failure. Throw all the political tomatoes you like, but call Bush’s policy what it is - a failure.
By smack
May 15, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
Dear Neville Chamberlain,
You can make all the excuses you want for Democrats pandering to our enemies but it won’t go away. The modern Democrat party is a party of appeasers and cowards. You can cherry pick your facts all you want but in the end you are still a nutless, terrorist sympathizing Democrat parroting the talking points of a failed and duplicitous Democrat party. What a blithering idiot.
By Cactus
May 15, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Obama and his following have really thin skins.
By John
May 15, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
Who is Bush?
By Andy
May 15, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Isn’t this the type of thing that got the Dixie Chicks in trouble. I thinks its time to call Bush Un-American.
By Andy
May 15, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Isn’t this the type of thing that got the Dixie Chicks in trouble. I thinks its time to call Bush Un-American.
By Andy
May 15, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Isn’t this the type of thing that got the Dixie Chicks in trouble. I thinks its time to call Bush Un-American.
By Charles
May 15, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Sometimes the truth hurts - and it’s about time President Bush pointed out the B.S. the Democraps put out. I just wish he had started sooner - but, he has more class than any of those Liberal thugs (including the mainstream press).
By hotlanta
May 15, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
I am ROTFLMAO now that McCain is trying to really distnce himself. He said that it took Bush toooo long to get to the Katrina people. He didn’t complain when it happened. This election is off the hook. I am gonna eat popcorn and watch the news this afternoon because it’s gonna be a long night.
By hotlanta
May 15, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
I am ROTFLMAO now that McCain is trying to really distnce himself. He said that it took Bush toooo long to get to the Katrina people. He didn’t complain when it happened. This election is off the hook. I am gonna eat popcorn and watch the news this afternoon because it’s gonna be a long night.
By Neville Chamberlain
May 15, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Smack, Do you use smack? I need you to define enemies. 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi Nationals (our ally). I don’t recall any Iraqi terrorist among the remaining two (Atta was Egyptian, and I believe there was a Jordanian). When people like you (and people like Bush) try to compare Iraq to Germany or Hussein to Hitler, you have about as much creedence as Cynthia McKinney and Charlie Sheen, when they try to link Bush to 9/11. At the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter if there were WMDs, or rape chambers, or if Saddam was our “enemy”. Iraq was not a threat to the US, and invading a soverign nation on a whim was the wrong move, period. The CIA (a liberal, cowardly, appeasing agency, if there ever was one) reports that the invasion and occupation of Iraq has de-stablized the region and served as a recruiting and fundraising tool for terrorist. Chamberlain may have been wrong to appease Hitler, but in the end, the Allies won. Five+ years into this mess (longer than our participation in WWII), it remains to be seen if we can/will emerge victorious. For the record, I have voted in every election since 1980 and I have NEVER voted for a Democrat. Succees is success and failure is failure and it is not determined by party affiliation. As I said, throw all the tomatoes you like, but at the end of the day, Bush and Cheney are a couple of “nutless” draft dodgers in my book. Say what you want about Kerry, but he served in Vietnam, while Cheney had “other priorities” and Bush was preserving freedom in Alabama. If Bush had “nuts” he would have nailed Bin Laden at Tora Bora (in 2001).
By smack
May 15, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
Neville-
For someone who NEVER voted Democrat, you sure are familiar with their talking points. You seem to enjoy defending our enemies. Why don’t move over to one of those countries. You might enjoy it more. Clueless Democrat.
By Neville Chamberlain
May 15, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Smack, Excuse me if I appear to be attempting to construct and ingenious argument, which proves you were wrong all along. You have yet to define (our) enemies, and which nation among them have I “defended”. Where would you like me to move? Let me let you in on a secret, the President has a sworn duty to defend the Constitution. Our current president has not. He hasn’t come close (Patriot Act) Criticizing the President is not akin to “defending our enemies”. Al Qeda and bin Laden are our enemies and they didn’t even exist in Iraq until AFTER we invaded. As I said, if Bush had cajones, he would have chased bin Laden into Pakistan (whatever it takes). Talk about “appeasing” - he’s let bin Laden and Saudi Arabia off the hook more times than Obama has “talked to Iran” (zero).
In addition to the trillion dollar tab Bush has run up in Iraq, the real downside of his foreign policy blunder is; in doing so, he has diverted assets and resources from hunting down and killing bin Laden and the Taliban. Why can’t (people like) you admit that Iraq was NEVER a threat to the US and our boondoggle in Bagdhad has done more harm than good? Do you ever watch baseball? I guy steps to the plate and he either get a hit, or makes an out. Hit = success Out = failure. When you decide to wage war victory/capitualation = success; anything else = failure.
By Copyleft
May 15, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
TheLies: And thanks for linking to the video which directly contradicts your lies! It clearly shows Obama OPPOSING negotiating with terrorists, in his own words.
You really need to come up with something to support your claims, rather than disproving them in the same breath. It saves us the trouble of discrediting you.
By Change We Cannot Believe In
May 15, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
This is hilarious! The Dems are speaking out condemning Bush’s statements since in some paranoid fashion they think these statements are directed at Obama. When he did not mention Obama directly. But didn’t Obama say he would directly meet with our “enemies” face to face to discuss our differences including Ahmadinejad of Iran. What is the problem here? Where were these Dems when Rev. Wright was spewing his hate speech that the US Gov’t invented AIDS to kill African Americans and the CIA invented crack to lock up and kill black people. The Democrats have become the haven of hypocrites and have swung to far to the left for my comfort. They are the party of “Do what I say not as I do!” elitist bunch. I am an independent by the way and voted for Dukakis in ‘88, Clinton in ‘92 and ‘96 so do not start calling me a know nothing Rebublican. I can never vote for Obama. I guess I am a racist now too!
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
Copyleft, Are you seriously brain dead? Since you can’t hear maybe you can read. He “understands” hammas’ support for his presidential bid. His words.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/05/13/2008-05-13barackobamaunderstandshamas_view.html
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
Seems AJC has problems loading urls.
Here is what it says about Hammas supporting Obama Hussein.
While maintaining an ironclad commitment to Israel’s security, Barack Obama says he understood why a top Hamas adviser voiced support for his presidential bid.
By The Truth
May 15, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this
By the way, the president wasn’t calling Obama Hussein an appeaser. He was basically talking about the entire democrat socialist party. That’s what they are and I don’t know why they get so offended. It’s like when people refer to Obama Hussein as a liberal. He gets offended. Even though his senate record is the most liberal of any senator. Why can’t people just be who they are. He and his wife hate America and his pastor and wife’s remarks prove it. Obama would rather appease our enemies than protect this country.
By Frederick Douglass
May 15, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
Ducks quack, Roosters crow, and Chicken Hawks squall. Aren’t there some wind mills this guy can joust with?
By CommonSense Guy
May 15, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
Mr. Bush is so hypocritical. He says that he is a “born again Christian” but he prays for war. Jesus said love your enemies, bless them that curse you and pray for them that despitefully uses you. Jesus also said “blessed” are the peacemakers.
Thank God will have a man of peace like the late President John F. Kennedy; otherwise the world may have succumbed to Nuclear war.
President soon to be elect Obama is completely RIGHT.
By Copyleft
May 15, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
Your saying it doesn’t make it true, TheLies. After all, I know for a fact that YOU hate America, and yet you’ll probably deny it. And I also know you’re an ignorant fascist—but you shouldn’t get upset when I point it out. You should EMBRACE what you are, right?
Obama said he understood why Hamas did it; that’s nowhere CLOSE to saying he agrees with them or their goals (hint: he doesn’t).
Bush, of course, understands nothing… which is why you and he get along so well. (snicker)