Opinion Talk

By Ray

May 6, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this

Lets see who is more electable after todays primaries. This thing isn’t over yet and the Demos are worried that McCain will defeat their golden boy down the stretch. Lemmings also jump over cliffs for some strange reason.

By DP

May 6, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

Cynthia, It’s simple. Superdelegates who are closely and intimately associated with the Clintons, know that we don’t need another Clinton era in politics with Hillary literally calling the shots. At least with Bill at the helm, he would be ultimately responsible for the public decisions from the White House. No one wants to trust this country to Hillary and her ego.

By jasper

May 6, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this

Cynthia, this will be hard for you but if you can focus, I believe I can logically take you through this. 1. The very existence of superdelegates is a political charade. 2. The only way Hillary can win is for many superdelegates to vote contrary to their states popular elections. 3. If Hillary wins in this style, the black community will simply boycott the general election. 4. Hillary doesn’t stand a snowflake’s chance in the general election without overwhelming black support. 5. If the superdelegates caused 3 and 4 above, they risk being subjected to an overhaul by the DNC. 6. Therefore they are just voting for self preservation.

That wasn’t that hard, was it?

By la

May 6, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this

I think that the superdelegates are smart enough to know that Obama has the best chance to win. HRC represents the old politics so people are not buying what she is selling. She has being inconsistent with her message or solutions to help fix the economy or our failed foreign policy.

By Don Hannaford

May 6, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this

It’s very very very simple. At the end of the voting, Obama will be ahead in Delegates. (That’s what wins elections). They do not want to go against the voters. Hillary has to win the rest of the states by over a 25% margin just to come close to Obama. AIN’t GONNA HAPPEN!!! This race was over after Ohio and Texas voted!!!! You certainly will not hear this in the media, because that’s what sells papers.

By Greg

May 6, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this

Ms Clinton is runing a campaign that belittles her legacy, in someways she’s attempting to mirrow Senator Obama’s campaign. For Senator Clinton to campaign on aspects she can’t deliver on (suspension of gas tax) is more of a President Bush tactic, or republican tactic. The superdelgates are more cognitive than working class whites and know when they see pandering.

By Lou

May 6, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

30 general and flag officers who have endorsed Hillary Clinton to be the Nation’s next President and Commander-in-Chief. Senator Clinton has received five more endorsements in recent days, including those of General Henry Hugh Shelton, the former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral William Owens, the former vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and Army Major General Antonio M. Taguba. Overall she has the endorsement of two former chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, five admirals and generals at the four-star rank. They are in addition to over 2,000 veterans and military retirees who are members of Senator Clinton’s national and state veterans’ steering committees.We’ve seen the tragic result of having a president who had neither the experience nor the wisdom to manage our foreign policy and safeguard our national security, Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware chairs the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, among party’s most respected voices on foreign policy after 35 years in the Senate and stated that as a senator, Clinton joined the Armed Services Committee in 2003, a post that burnished her national-security credentials. She is conscientious, she took hold and showed a good understanding” of security issues. Hillary Clinton has done her homework on national security, She has the big picture and is the most qualified in the race to be Commander-in-Chief.- General Wesley Clark. I think Hillary Clinton is the best person and the best prepared to be Commander-in-Chief.- Admiral William Owens. I support her because I trust her, I trust her judgment, She knows our reality, She’ll give us missions that make sense.- Lt. Gen. Claudia J. Kennedy. Obama said he felt his strongest foreign relations experience came from spending four years overseas as a child, Obamas has spent his time on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on speeches and inspirational trips than on investigations and aggressive oversight. Obama took charge of the European affairs subcommittee didn’t seize the opportunity to scrutinize the Bush administration. The too busy senator did not lead a single policy hearing on ANY of the hot topics in the panel’s jurisdiction: missile defense, counterterrorism and concern over the waning commitment of European countries to NATO etc… Obama cannot be trusted with the future of our Great but Troubled country! The debate showed Obamas extreme lack of foreign affairs issues, he agreed with ALL of Hillary answers, why? Because he just doesn’t know. Ex; Amazingly the question of Russia and Obama had no clue! Hillary showed that she knew the upcoming president of Russia and the issues about him in addition to many others issues like Cuba etc… We cannot afford a bobble head in the White House. We MUST have experience to deal with what we already know and of course what we don’t. Mainstream media is helping hide his corrupt campaign finance donors, awful voting record in the senate and true lack of experience with dealing with foreign leaders. Most all foreign leaders respect the Clintons, on day one Hillary has a better chance of bringing those leaders to talk than Hussen Obama the media made fairy tale.

By cliff zeider

May 6, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

HEy, Just wait, the Clinton’s will get Fl. and Mich. seated at the conventon and Hillary knocks off the Obama.

By Lou

May 6, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this

Obama looses another pledged delegate! Obama supporter has given up her role as pledged delegate after her “unacceptable” description of PA neighbor children as “monkeys,” because they were climbing in trees. Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski, an a Hispanic trustee for the Village of Carpentersville, Ill., was accused of racism following the interaction with her African-American neighbors

By Lou

May 6, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

VOTERS DEMAND OBAMA DROP OUT NOW, WITH ALL THE NEW POLITICAL DAMAGING STUFF COMING FROM HIM AND MICHELLE OBAMA, IN ADDITION TO WRIGHTS CONTINUED OBAMA DEFENDED ATTACKS ON WHITE AMERICA. HE WILL SURLY LOOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION FOR DEMOCRATS. Obama looses another pledged delegate! Obama supporter has given up her role as pledged delegate after her “unacceptable” description of PA neighbor children as “monkeys,” because they were climbing in trees. Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski, an a Hispanic trustee for the Village of Carpentersville, Ill., was accused of racism following the interaction with her African-American neighbors

By BW

May 6, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

They know Sen. Clinton is really a Republican at heart. How can she agree with everything Sen. McCain says?

Speaking of which - why isn’t the media reporting this:

Three years ago, during an appearance on CBS, Sen. Hillary Clinton stated that she agreed with the overarching premise of John McCain’s Iraq policy: that America’s commitment to the war shouldn’t be based on time frames but rather on the level of troop casualties. She even cited, as McCain now regularly does, that the United States would be well suited to follow a model for troop presence based on South Korea, Japan, or Germany.

“Senator McCain made the point earlier today, which I agree with, and that is, it’s not so much a question of time when it comes to American military presence for the average American; I include myself in this. But it is a question of casualties,” said Clinton. “We don’t want to see our young men and women dying and suffering these grievous injuries that so many of them have. We’ve been in South Korea for 50-plus years. We’ve been in Europe for 50-plus. We’re still in Okinawa with respect to protection there coming out of World War II.”

The quote, which resurfaced on liberal websites late Sunday night, underscores both the evolution of Clinton’s stance on Iraq and the war itself.

Three years and many casualties later, Clinton insists, unequivocally, that American troops should be brought home at a rate of one to two brigades a month over the course of 16 months, and that a residual force be left to deal with national security issues. Asked recently if, as president, she would stick to that plan even if conditions on the ground suggested the need for an armed U.S. presence, Howard Wolfson offered a definitive, “yes.”

Taken from The Huffington Post.

I’ll tell you why - they want to see this campaign drag on which is detrimental to the Democractic Party. NC and IN, please, please end it TODAY!

By Bud Wiser

May 6, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

It is a total insult to my intelligence to hear Obama say he ‘never heard’ the vile rhetoric spewed by Reverend Wright during a supposed twenty year-plus attendance at his church. A hateful and spiteful racist like Wright had to make his views known on America, whites, and any other targets of his twisted mind to his entire following, simply because it was his way. Anyone in regular attendance had to be a believer or subscriber to his maniacal rants as well. To say he never knew this side of Wright, or never heard any of this before now,, is either a politically expedient form of “duck and recover”, or an outright lie.

We have already been through two lying Presidents the last 16 years…..we certainly do not need another. The blind sheep following this Pied Piper from Illinois are obviously incapable of discerning fact from fiction. Their loyalty to a man or a cause render them incapable of rational thought. In other words, they are acting stupid. The blacks will vote for Obama no matter what, because he is one of theirs. We all know they will not think out anything when it comes to race….I cite O>J> Simpson as proof of that, plus the staggering 97% black male vote for Obama in their Pennsylvania primary. Surely there are enough of you out there to see this charlatan for what he is, which is a liar and a socialist. If you still vote for him because he is a socialist and so are you, then so be it. If you ignore the fact that he is a liar, then you all are idiots, and get what you deserve. As I said before, it should be an insult to your intelligence as well as mine that Obama says he never heard Wright carry on as he did….that is, of course, assuming YOU have any intelligence to reason this out on your own.

By Ron

May 6, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton will knock off Obama…. Is that before or after she obliterates Iran? Does she not realize that there are people over in Iran who disagree with their government. Are we going to blow them up too…? The people in Indiana won’t pay any attention to that. They are too busy clinging on to their “gas tax holiday?”

By Chuck

May 6, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

If the DNC would let all state conventions go at the same time.Maybe the popula vote would count more and the Supers would not be needed. Since I understand they are NOT bound by the popular vote.And that would do away with the mess that Fla & Mi have caused.

By saywhat

May 6, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

That’s because nearly everyone knows that they can’t trust Hillary. Hillary to her core is all about power and she will do anything to get it. When I look at Hillary - and many others I know - what I see is evil behind a smiling mask; she reminds me of the wicked step-mother in Cinderella. And Billy-Bob will smile at you, look you in the eye, and pretend he’s your best friend; while the whole time he is really saying “F-you”

By jetercooper

May 6, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Obama may appear a week candidate for now, but wait until Clinton is fraudulently nominated and see the Fox news, Republican marriage break up with her. Remember republicans hate the Clintons with passion and they will forget John McCain is on the ticket but fight with every emotion to stop the Clintons. Ho, by the way a substantial number of democrats will sit home, that’s the equation super delegates are dealing with

By MuscleManiac

May 6, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

White America, Black America, America is just divided by stupidity and politics. If white america was damaged by Rev. Wrights comments then look back at your church’s politics and what your church did to solve the problem of segregation and integration.

By hirsutedawg

May 6, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Lou, You don’t loose elections, you lose them. I feel our country would be better served at this time by an intelligent, more nuanced approach to dealing with the mess that has been made of our great country. What everyone should be asking and what gets glossed over in the MSM is where did the majority of the Clinton’s $109M reported income come from? You don’t think it was from people wanting to curry favor from another Clinton admin do you? Look, I voted for Bill twice and I have had enough of their style of politics. Nobody cares about the grandstanding Rev. Wright any more than they care about that kook Rev. Hagee (Google him sometime). Time to let that Hussen Obama stuff go and do what’s best for this country.

By Charles

May 6, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Ms. Tucker forgot to mention about Barrack’s association with an unrepentant terrorist, William Ayers. I’m sure the Superdelegates are having a hard time deciding between two candidates with checkered pasts. Barrack has become less electable now that his “chickens have come to roost”. There’s no telling how many more stories of Obama’s past will emerge if he’s nominated.

But, how can the Democrats avoid a disaster or riots in Denver if they award the nomination to Hillary? She isn’t much better than Osama with her past - her unlikeability and phoniness make her a bad choice too.

The Superdelegates and Democrats are now in a ‘Catch-22’ situation - the Republican Party must be laughing their heads off!

By Wdr

May 6, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Actually, there are Superdelegates who do not succumb to Senator Clinton’s dirty politics. She and her husband has really hurt the sincerity of the Democratic Party with those negative attacks on Senator Obama. Remember, “let he that is without sin, cast the first stone”. Senator Obama has run a respectable campaign. In my view, Senator Obama’s reactions to the tactless aggressions by Senator Clinton and her cronies are exactly the type attributes a leader should possess. Finally, let me say to the American people; If you were comfortable voting for the dumbest president in American History, George W. Bush as your President, two times, then you really should not have a problem voting for the smartest, decisive, and most intelligent candidate in this campaign. That is unless, you are not ready for a Black Man, who is more than capable of excelling as President of the United States of America.

By DavidEm

May 6, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

The Republicans have failed so spectacularly, I would vote for EITHER Clinton or Obama. The difference is, I would hold my nose if it were Hillary. She has really shown her character in the last month; she’ll embrace any tactic from the Republican playbook in order to win (including saying, “Barack Obama isn’t a Muslim, AS FAR AS I KNOW,” and calling HIM an ELITIST!). But I will vote for Obama with PRIDE. He has a sterling character, concern for all Americans (not just the wealthy), a brilliant intellect, a thorough knowledge and love of the Constitution, and a TEMPERAMENT that seems to be without parallel in today’s political climate. I would invite anyone to actually READ his thoughtful book, “The Audacity of Hope,” which is a remarkably insightful look at the polarization of or politics, and how it might be overcome. EITHER Clinton or McCain will continue this stalemate. END THE DRAMA. VOTE OBAMA.

By The One

May 6, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Obama is unelectable in the general election. Obama associated himself with certain people/groups to help in with the IL/Chicago political scene (Trinity United Church of Christ, Bill Ayers, Rezko, etc.) That stuff does not help him on the national scene. Plus he is totally untested and has acomplished nothing of note in his short political career. During his run for his Senate both the major Dem. and Rep. front runners were sidelined by sex scandals and the Rep. put up Alan Keyes (what a joke). He talks about being non partisan, but has voted with the Dem. 97% of the time. He has never reached across the aisle like Clinton or McCain. The Republicans will make mince meat of him in the general election. There is so much dirty laundry the main stream has not and will not let you see unless you try. For instance, have you met his new pastor that replaced the Rev. Wright? Go take a look. Sen. Obama is still a member of this church. He is just as controversial. Sen. Obama is untested, untried, and has dirty laundry the Republicans are sitting on just letting to leak. You wait! His drum beat is not going to play well with the majority of Americans once that shine turns to a real dirty tarnish!

By jbean3

May 6, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Don’t you get it!?!? The Republicans have Clinton in their back pocket, convincing the public that Obama is not for this country (ie the flag pin, Wright, etc). Republicans have the media in the other back pocket, spewing out crap and getting off the subjects that matter to the AMERICAN PEOPLE (rising prices in food and gas, foreclosures, job closings, etc). Obama is keeping the focus on course and Clinton is not. She is using dirty tactics and IT WILL backfire. Just wait until after 7pm today. And then the people would have spoken.

By CopyRight

May 6, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

Lou, you are a perfect example of why people should not do drugs!! Why would the person in the lead drop out? Did you go to government schools?

By tar

May 6, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Bud Wiser,

Please do not talk about liars unless you would like to include Sen. Clinton and Sen. McCain. Remember, Sen. Clinton said she was under sniper attack in Bosnia three times. All a lie. Sen. Clinton told the story of the lady who died without insurance, a lie. Sen. Clinton said that she did not know Mr. Paul who held a gala for her election campaign. Again, a lie. Sen. Clinton had Rev. Wright at the White House and visited his church several times.

Sen. McCain said he did not say that it would be okay if the war in Irag lasts 100 years. Sen. McCain said he did not say that when he is president, he will have a new energy policy and our young men would not have to lose their lives fighting for oil. I could go on, but I’m sure since you are so intelligent that you get the picture.

You what Rev. Wright said againt Sen. Obama, but you do not use what Sens. McCain and Clinton said against them. Now who is the hypocrite?

By tar

May 6, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Bud Wiser,

Please do not talk about liars unless you would like to include Sen. Clinton and Sen. McCain. Remember, Sen. Clinton said she was under sniper attack in Bosnia three times. All a lie. Sen. Clinton told the story of the lady who died without insurance, a lie. Sen. Clinton said that she did not know Mr. Paul who held a gala for her election campaign. Again, a lie. Sen. Clinton had Rev. Wright at the White House and visited his church several times.

Sen. McCain said he did not say that it would be okay if the war in Irag lasts 100 years. Sen. McCain said he did not say that when he is president, he will have a new energy policy and our young men would not have to lose their lives fighting for oil. I could go on, but I’m sure since you are so intelligent that you get the picture.

You what Rev. Wright said againt Sen. Obama, but you do not use what Sens. McCain and Clinton said against them. Now who is the hypocrite?

By eleven

May 6, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Hey, where were all of Sen. Obama’s buddies when that racist hate mongering pastor of his had his 15 minutes? I did not see John Kerry, Chris Dodd, or any of the other superdelegates. I heard Sen Obama called them and got their voice mail. “Beep……….Sorry were not here we are all on the Fence call back later after your dirty laundry dries! Beep” You also gotta love that wacky Howard Dean stating if you even talk about Rev. Wright you are a racist because it is not about the issues. Sorry Howie but judgment is an issue I think most American are concerned about and being a member of a racist hate mongering church is BAD JUDGEMENT. This is a double standard if Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain were 20 year members of church that talked about commitment to a White Values system or said something negative about people of color. Rev. Al and Rev. Jessie would be whacking their flints together building one heck of a firestorm to burn someones britches while they were still wearing them including Hillary in those polyester pant suits. Apparently Rev. Wright was to controversial for Oprah. Also this religious scholar stole a man’s wife while giving them marriage counseling. Hmmmmmmmmmmm….a trusted advisor. I am sure that there is some conservative group out salivating waiting to leak the dirty laundry on this new guy Obama. At least with Billary we all know what the deal is and have seen all of their stains that all that Shout can’t get it out!

By old91A10

May 6, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

I can see why some think Obama is the presumptive candidate. He has almost half the popular vote, while Clinton only has almost half the popular vote.

It would have been a worse week if anyone bothered to question Obama on: association with Rezko — eleven dilapidated affordable housing properties in his district; association with Ayers and Dohrn — confessed, convicted, and questionably repentant terrorists; association with Auchi — food for oil scams; association with Exelon — electric utility and nuclear waste disposal; association with homophobes McClurken and Rev. Caldwell; wife’s huge pay raise after his election; opposition to Feingold’s censure of Bush over wiretaps; rejection of Murtha’s call for redeployment; said Bush doing a good job in Iraq; neglect of European Subcommittee — ergo, missed opportunities for NATO cooperation; support for the Bush Cheney energy plan; vote for Bush’s Class Action Fairness — deprives legal recourse against large corporations; correction for Bush’s tax relief still favors upper incomes; repeated votes for Patriot act; skipped the Iran Resolution vote; rhetoric invokes past Republican Administrations — riddled with excesses and crimes; has a weak record on FISA; spokesperson equivocated on NAFTA while in Canada; spokesperson equivocated on troop withdrawal while in England; …; Obama is afraid to debate H.R. Clinton.

By AMBER

May 6, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

OH….THEY WILL. TRUST ME! THEY JUST HAVE TO WAIT SO THEY DON’T GET SO TREMENDOUSLY TRASHED BY YOU BIAS MEDIA JACK-A*******E$.

Democratic right gets it about Clinton May. 6, 2008 12:00 AM

As much as I hate to admit it, the right is right and the left is in a bind.

To my dismay, right-wing analysts are starting to side with Hillary Clinton’s argument since Pennsylvania.

And New York Times columnist William Kristol, in “Hillary gets no respect,” makes the case for Clinton against Barack Obama.

It’s all about electability, the wicked genie that comes out of the box at every presidential election. Nothing is more telling than Pennsylvania, which gave Hillary a significant victory.

If the right can recognize Clinton’s worth, then the left owes her due respect, not insults. Hillary won major Democratic states, essential toward victory vs. caucuses, which are unrepresentative of the states.

The superdelegates should absorb the significance of her win before deciding who is more electable. - Colette Jenkins,Anthem

By Bill

May 6, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Four more years—- Four more years Four more years—Four more years

By Election Heist

May 6, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Fact: The Republicans didn’t win one Democratic incumbent seat in the House or Senate in the ‘06 mid-term elections and the recent victory in Louisiana for the Democrats underscores the reach that Obama has for the Democratic party this year and years to come.

Fact: Many Superdelegates know that investing their political capital w/him will pay off with his fund-raising ability and broad appeal

Fact: Since Super Tuesday, Hillary has picked up 13 SuperDelegates and Obama has picked up twice as many. Its clear who the superdelegates (are staking their political capital with)

Fact: Obama has gone up against the most formidable political machine in the Democratic Party. He has faced a candidate that at the time, had raised the most money of any presidential candidate in history. Not only is he on the verge of making history, he is doing it with the most effective grass roots campaign in our life time.

Fact: The Superdelegates and party officials know that this is all but over Clinton. They are going to cast their lot behind Obama, who is getting ready to do a 50-state voting drive. They aren’t thinking in terms of the “50 + 1 strategy” that has lost the last 2 elections. They are considering all of the states to be battleground states. Given recent history, this is what the Republicans fear.

By Michael Brennan

May 6, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Perhaps because most of these people remember that the Clintons never stood up for their friends. At the drop of any Republican hat whatever you thought you were to the Clintons changed overnight and suddenly you were a liability to the greater good. Most of us that knew the Clintons do not remember them fondly.

By Rick

May 6, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Where is all the News Coverage on this ?????????????

Judge Munoz Saves Hillary’s Presidential Bid In LA Court Action

http://www.peterfpaul.com/2008/04/27/judge-munoz-saves-hillarys-presidential-bid-in-la-court-action/

In the landmark civil fraud case against Bill Clinton in Los Angeles, where the former President is charged with defrauding a Hollywood dot com millionaire to help Hillary Clinton obtain more than $1.2 million from him for her 2000 Senate campaign, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz ruled on Friday, April 25 that Hillary Clinton would not be required to testify in a sworn deposition as a material witness in the case until AFTER the November election!

Rush Limbaugh And The New VRWC To Elect Hillary Clinton? http://www.peterfpaul.com/category/barack/

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh may have shown Friday that he is joining former Clinton arch-enemies Richard Mellon Scaife, Matt Drudge, News Max publisher Chris Ruddy, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity in either flat out supporting Hillary publicly, or providing a strategic media coverage of her and her campaign intended to help her more than hurt her chances to win against Obama and possibly regain the White House.

By Jen

May 6, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Why have so many former Clinton insiders defected to Obama’s campaign?

There’s Joe Andrew, former head of the DNC in Indiana (appointed by Clinton, Robet Reich and Bill Richardson who both served in Clinton’s cabinet and have known the Clintons for a long time. Also, Anthony Lake, former National Security Adviser and someone else who was special counsel during Clinton’s impeachment.

Gabriel Guerra-Mondragon, former Ambassador to Chile and a major fundraiser for Hillary has also joined Obama’s campaign. Ted Kennedy, who is a family friend and John Kerry are both in Obama’s camp even though they’ve known the Clintons a long time. Why are more Senate colleagues supporting Obama not Clinton even though she has been a US senator for longer?

All of that surely says something unflattering about Clinton and positive about Obama - that’s probably the same reason why superdelegates are not deserting Obama. He is a formidable and fair campaigner, bright, capable and most of all has integrity.

By tommy jonq

May 6, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

“drifting towards obama” is exactly the kind of thing losers do. instead doing the manly thing and just driving a stake through billary’s heart back in march, the dummycrats are cowering under the bed hoping somebody ELSE does it for them. gutless revolutions are more worthless than bloodless ones. no wonder mccain is taking the summer off.

By One

May 6, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

For all of you that say that Hillary’s folks know what she is really about (A LIAR!!), I agree!! That’s why they don’t want to see her elected. For all of you that say she would ruin it for the democratic party, again, I agree!! If she is the nominee, tons of people will stay home in November (me included), and she will be handing the election to McCain!!! How in the world can anyone listen to her agree with McCain and still think she’s the right candidate?! I just don’t get that level on unintelligence!

By Elisha

May 6, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

As a Black man, it’s dejuvue again! Here we have millions of Blacks in some kind of mass orgy over Obama. In-fact, some of the same Black females running around the country panting over Obama, were also panting over Bill Campbell, Tom Bradley, Maynard Jackson, and what’s the name of that one-term Black Mayor of New York back in the early nineties, Does any body even care? There are those in the Black community who still cling to some false and ridiculous notion that some talented Tenth, or 10 % of black Americans will save us all. When in-fact, it was a false vision back in 1910 or 20, when the Niagara Group form to create the NAACP. What exactly did Tom Bradley do for Blacks in LA after 20 years of leadership? Absolutely nothing, just look at the statistics, Coleman Young of Detroit, nothing. What did Bill Campbell do for Atlanta Blacks after 8 years of his Administration, absolutely nothing; remember his now infamous statement or calling card, “ What’s in it for me?” In-fact, Obama will do no more for Blacks than any of the other so called talented tenth. Yes, a few elitist Black will get appointments to some key positions (Susan Rice of course), some will be invited to social events at the white house, like Maya Angelou, Bill Cosby and such; but for the general black population, it will be business as usual. I understand the plantation psychology going on here, with blacks, especially Black Females, the Lighter the better, if your brown, stick around. Black females after all of these years can’t get beyond this color issue (Opra is a perfect example), watching her as she pants over White guest daily on her shameful show. To see someone like “Tom Joyner,” of all people, caught-up in this orgy, someone with his insightfulness and savvy should know better. Remember, just less than four years ago, white democrats by the millions, voted Republican to keep George in office, so he could stack the courts with Racist Judges and stifle black progress. In-fact, here in Georgia they overturned more then 100 years of Democratic control because blacks were getting to powerful in the State Legislature, like in California back in the early 90’s when White Dismantled Black power in California’s State-House. Now, are we to believe that these same whites are going to turn over their country to blacks, who can’t even run p**-a* cities like Atlanta and Detroit, Shame on all of you including Ms. Tucker.

By Sad

May 6, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

I am afraid my democratic party is going to lose this election. If Obama is the nominee, the republicans will eat his lunch with everything that has come out already, not to mention what is yet to be learned. He is not electable this time around. If Hillary is the nominee, the black community will revolt and stay home. Get ready for another four years of republicanism, McCain style, which isn’t any different than Bush. And we will have done it to ourself!

By Russell

May 6, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Obama and Clinton are both good candidates whose overall policies are virtually identical. The amazing amount of distortion in the comments above are ridiculous. Either you’re a Democrat or you’re not. Whoever wins, wins. As a member of the party, I can say if you’re not happy with the “rules,” then participate via your local Democratic Club and change them.

By FreeAmerican

May 6, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

The reason is , those are not policy issues.

Politicians KNOW political distractions when they see them. They are not designed to persuade politicians, they are used for the common voter.

By Hope?

May 6, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Hey Elisha, You gotta get over the mentality that “whitey is always out to get me.” You guys have played that victim card to many times. It is starting to have “the boy that cried wolf” effect. I have been beat up by blacks on several occassions, been called several racial names, and I even had one angry black women threaten to kill me on a plane once. However, I do not think all blacks are out get me. All people of all colors have descendants that emerged from being victimized throughout history. Get over it! No mule and 40 acres for you!

By Brett

May 6, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Hey Lou,

Funny how I see you repost the same dribble supporting Clinton on just about every story I read. How much is the Clinton campaign paying you?

By The Facts

May 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

1) Superdelegates are not required or expected to vote the will of their state or district. To those pushing that view, please show us the rule. They are able to vote for whomever they want.

2) The Democratic Party may have a screwed up system, but the rule is not that whomever is ahead gets the nomination. The rule is that whomever wins 2,025 delegates gets the nomination. At this rate neither Clinton or Obama can achieve that number, meaning neither one can win the nomination without superdelegates or the other candidate dropping out.

By Neil

May 6, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

If the B.S. around Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, John Hagee, Bill Clinton, Resko, Bosnia sniperfire, and phrases like “reject”, “denounce”, “bitter”, and “elitist” are the criteria that America used to vote for who they think will be President; then America deserves to be in the shape we in. Losing jobs and our economy is attached to gas and oil… which we are dependent on from countries that don’t even like us.

Vote with intellect people…

By Mark

May 6, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

No need to stay home on election day. Drive your message home. If Hillary somehow manages to backstab, pander, lie and connive her way to the nomination, Ralph Nader is once again on the ballot. Clinton already hates Nader and it would be a fitting end to her pathetic political career to her lose because Nader takes 5-10% in a race between her and McCain. I can just see her blithering hate filled concession speech.

By hirsutedawg

May 6, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

Elisha, it’s comments like yours that cause these problems to start with. It’s not about what Senator Obama can do for the blacks, it’s what he can do for the country as a whole The sooner people begin looking at the big picture and what the future holds for our children, the better off we will be. Your ghetto minded, I gots to get mines, what’s in it for me mentality makes you sound like exactly what the republicans portray. The long journey begins with the 1st step.

By Sean

May 6, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Because of the fear of alienating black voters allegiance to the democratic party, heretofore a rubber-stamp voting block for the aforementioned party.

By old91A10

May 6, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

To Hope @ 10:31 and your comment about Elisha @ 10:13 — I read his post twice just to be sure, and I really don’t believe his points were intended as “whitey is out to get….”

I hope I’m not mischaracterizing him by oversimplifying, but, in part, he seemed to saying something more like “white or black”, politics is politics (and look what you get).

I think he’s been paying attention to events for a long time. He probably could have doubled his list, or done another one for “Republican or Democrat ….”

By shay

May 6, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Blacks will not sit home in November and let McCain be elected if Hilary goes on the ticket. Everyone is just mad right now and the thought of her possibly beating out Obama is not sitting well right now. It won’t happen. In the end, everybody will be lined up to a democrat in office.

And a black that supports Obama is not just supporting him because he’s black. That’s BS. He is the better candidate. It don’t take a rocket scientist to see that. If you are a true democrat, then vote democrat. We need a Hilary/Obama or Obama/Hilary ticket to take this thing in November and that’s all that matters.

I’m voting for Obama but if Hilary ends up beating him, then so be it, I will still be voting Democrat even though I can’t stand her.

By dawgfan

May 6, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Because Obama can beat McCain, Hillary CAN’T!

I’m a registered Democrat and even I won’t vote for Hillary. The woman is pure evil.

By tiff

May 6, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Cynthia you are brilliant as usual, I love your commentary, they are always truthful and enlightening. To answer your question. It’s simple, these delegates are just like the rest of us. They realize we need change in this country. Not just who is more electable, but who can get the job done when they are elected. It’s sad that a lot of people are putting race in the mix. Nothing about this has to do with race. It has to do with the fact that this country is going to hell-in-a-handbasket. Who is the best person to help pull us out of this. Hillary is fake, even Barack Obama said the other day, Hillary seems to be echoing almost everything McCain says. She is so hateful that if she can’t win, she sure as heck will see to it that Barack won’t win. Hence the mud-slinging. McCain offers a gas tax, she says ditto. He offers something else, she says ditto to that to. We all know that McCain is carrying Bush’ baggage. So I see her carrying Bush and McCain’s baggage. Keep up the good work Cynthia, I hear a lot of women say well i’m voting for Hillary because I want to see a woman in the White House in my life time. Me to, but I want it to be the right woman. I’m an African-American woman but I would no more vote for Barack because he is black than I would for her because she is a woman. Cynthia, the reason I like you is because you keep it real. You are not only a credit to your race and gender. You are a credit to good people “PERIOD”.

By jorge nunez

May 6, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

the anti-obama brigade should stop harassing the audience. it’s all over but the shouting. obama is the winner.

By TR

May 6, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Wake up people! The political game is a very dirty one I’m ashamed to say. Do you all really think that all this stuff that surfaced about Obama and his associations were somehow discovered by the media through their own investigations? There are anonymous tips sent to the media by some member of the other candidates’ team all the time. Certainly Hillary knew she had to get some dirt on the golden boy, stop his momentum and take the focus off of her in the media—and it worked to. Why hasn’t the media bring all of dirt out in the public, but instead fall for her “you’re only picking on me” ploy? She’s done a remarkable job of getting the voters’ focus off the real issues and on to some “Peyton Place” garbage. Another thing, how in the world can blue collar voters believe Hillary is somehow connected to their struggles? Hillary went to the same Ivy League school as Barack and has more wealth than Barack yet she has the blue collar voters believing she’s on their level and Barack is the elitist? PLEASE. Some of you can fall for this foolishness in the media and believe everything you see or read in the news. Hillary is making a mockery of you and the democratic process (same old dirty politics). The only thing Hillary has in mind for this country is getting herself elected to say she’s the first female President. Lastly, Barack is by no means the perfect candidate, but I believe the American people are tired of these politicians (the Clintons included) running this country in the ground; based on his Illinois track record of working across parties I believe he is the best candidate to enact change for the better. Vote your conscience!

By rob

May 6, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Yes, I am really enjoying the battles going on for the Democrats. I don’t think that either party has a viable candaite but McCain is still the lesser of the three evils. Obama and Clinton will continue us down the road to socialism with cradle to grave nanny goverment. The readers of this great newspaper could do worse than listening to Neal Boortz for further education.

By Robbie

May 6, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

The superdelegates know that if they move to Hillary a huge bloc of voters will be mad. Plus, moving away from Obama would not assuage their white liberal guilt. John McCain will win in a lanslide. Moderate Democrats, many of whom would’ve voted for Hillary, are going to vote for McCain. Jews are going to support McCain. The Republicans are going to pound Obama on Trinity United Church of Christ and the Weather Underground and the fact that he’s only been in the US Senate for, what, 3 years.

By tar

May 6, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

Elisha,

You do not give the Black voters any respect. You evidently feel that the Black voters do not have the intellect to choose a candidate that will benefit them and the country.

I guess you feel that it is alright for the Blacks and Whites to vote for a White candidate. What have the White candidate done for you? Let’s see, the Clinton’s pushed through NAFTA, which closed down factories in small towns all over the country. It also put a great many people out of work. Please do not forget, your lovely White candidate started a war in Irag which has killed over 4,000 American men and women of all races. It is costing the U.S. taxpayers trillions of dollars. Because of your White candidate, food, gas and other living expenses are high and getting higher. Americans of all races are losing their homes due to your White politicians. The value of the U.S. dollar is weak overseas. Imports exceeds exports. The U.S. is trillions of dollars in debt.

In order to succeed, we will have to look at the individual candidate’s abilities and not their skin color. Believe me, if Sen. Obama was not Black, and you judged him on his message and stand on the issues affecting America, he would have been the Democratic nominee by now.

Elisha, please do not forget all of the great contributions that Blacks have made. If it wasn’t for Blacks, there would be no plasma to give people blood. Open heart surgery, traffic lights, elevators, peanut butter, etc. would not exist.

Please do not discount Sen. Obama and the Black voters because they are Black. Also, do not discount the White voters who voted for Sen. Obama.

I guess you feel that it is alright for White voters to vote for Sens. Clinton and McCain. In that case, Elisha you deserve to be underserved by your White Politicians.

By Gary - Columbia, IN

May 6, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton cares first, second and always about Hillary Clinton. You only have to witness the growing legions of people who know her well and desert her…Like Bill Richardson, Robert Reich and Joe Andrew (there are many more). She and her husband have kept this race going by trying to destroy what had been a transcendent candidate - not by building up her credentials.

She keeps certain supporters and superdelegates frozen through threats (Judas?), promises, deals and keeps voters by saying whatever she feels will play well. It’s pretty interesting that her support is from the less educated and most likely less informed? Those who listen and are more educated in the facts know her game. This ultimately is what will cost her the superdelegates regardless of whether she wins IN and/or NC. People just do not like her ways and are relishing the chance to knock her out. Obama appears to be a truly good man trying hard not to join her in the gutter and unfortunately this costs him votes. In the long run it will gain him respect -here and around the world.

By Sterling

May 6, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Obama is getting most of his super deleagtes for one reason. They know they can control him, they know Clinton will not be so easily managed. The problem is Obama cannot get elected. Polls show that now. As he keeps being exposed for his short comings and bad decisions, McCain keeps building his lead over him. If FL and MI don’t get represented, Obama will lose badly in the general election. If they do count those, Hillary will be ahead…. and polls show she can beat McCain. Super-delagates that stick with Obama will ruin the Democrats chances in the General election. It would be better to have someone strong in the white house than to back someone they can control but that person not be able to be elected.

By Gary - IN

May 6, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

Hillary Clinton cares first, second and always about Hillary Clinton. You only have to witness the growing legions of people who know her well and desert her…Like Bill Richardson, Robert Reich and Joe Andrew (there are many more). She and her husband have kept this race going by trying to destroy what had been a transcendent candidate - not by building up her credentials.

She keeps certain supporters and superdelegates frozen through threats (Judas?), promises, deals and keeps voters by saying whatever she feels will play well. It’s pretty interesting that her support is from the less educated and most likely less informed? Those who listen and are more educated in the facts know her game. This ultimately is what will cost her the superdelegates regardless of whether she wins IN and/or NC. People just do not like her ways and are relishing the chance to knock her out. Obama appears to be a truly good man trying hard not to join her in the gutter and unfortunately this costs him votes. In the long run it will gain him respect -here and around the world.

By old91A10

May 6, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

To hirsutedawg @ 10:53

I read it twice again. Elisha wasn’t making any claims about what Obama was going to do for anyone of any color. He wasn’t saying anything like “I gots to get….” (By the way, he doesn’t even write that way, so I am offended by your putting it like that).

If anything, he was implying something you ask for. “… looking at the big picture….”

Now, my only criticism would be that he didn’t give enough (so called) white examples compared to (so called) black examples of political realities. But, I bet he could. [Please forgive me for not being able to write that better]. I can even imagine myself writing what he said, but switching ‘black and white’ and the names of politicians.

Now, if were to turn out that Elisha is not black, as he states, I would be furious and attack him for entirely different reasons.

By Get A Life

May 6, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

I am a registered Democrat (have been since I was able to vote) and I am not enamoured with either candidate. One misspeaks and the other embellishes his record. The same campaign slogan of “hope” and “change” was used in Massachusetts by the same campaign manager for Obama. What I can’t understand is what are we changing to? It will be politics as usual with McCain, Clinton or Obama in the White House. Nothing, I repeat, nothing will “change” except the party affiliation (possibly). The country is in dire needs of strong leadership. I am afraid that all three are lacking in department.

By Get A Life

May 6, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

Tar stated: Please do not forget, your lovely White candidate started a war in Irag which has killed over 4,000 American men and women of all races.

Senator Obama keeps stating that he was against the war in Iraq. I was against the war also. Like Senator Obama, neither of us was in the US Senate to vote. So, saying I was against the war does nothing. Who knows how he would have voted if infact he was a US Senator in 2003. He didn’t become a US Senator until 2005. Just facts.

By Anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

The reason that senator clinton is ahead, is because she is ahead in the pledged delegates math that really count in the fall election.

Senator Obama is ahead in the total pledged delegate count because he carried several states with heavy black population. But these states(red) will not be in play for any democratic nominee. Do you think that senator Obama can carry Georgia in the fall? No. do you think that senator Clinton can carry Georgia in the fall? No. ditto for all the southern states that senator Obama carried in the primary season. all the southern states and many conservative states elsewhere that were carried by Senator Obama in the primaries will be in Senator McCain colunm. The idea that Senator Obama or any democrat can carry Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, the carolinas, virginia etc etc is delusional

By tiff

May 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

tar, I assure you Elisha is neither black nor intelligent. When a person immediately start off by saying something like “as a black man” or “as a black woman”, they usually are not. They say this to downplay their prejudice. This is how it goes. “If this statement is coming from a black person, it must have some validity”. That’s what they want the rest of the bloggers to believe. That’s psych 101. What it does is portray all blacks as angry and bitter. Much like they have been trying to portray Barack as an angry-bitter black man.

By AListY

May 6, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

I have come to realize that the general american public is largely STUPID for the most part.

First indication, GW Bush was elected TWICE into office.

Second indication, a pompous pill popping stooge with a radio show tells a group of people to vote against their interests in order to create inner strife in another party’s campaign and they DO it. Never stopping to think that they could very well be helping to elect the next president.

Thirdly, people can be tricked into buying into somehow that because an individual knows someone who said some questionable things that that makes them somehow unfit to be president. (And don’t give me that ‘Pastor’ garbage, true Christians know their relationship is with Christ and not a humanly fallable ‘Pastor’)

Fourthly, people can be tricked into believing that being the wife of a President somehow gives you the qualification to be President - no more than being the spouse of a Cardiac Surgeon qualifies the spouse to perform heart surgery.

Fifthly, that they would vote for someone who they KNOW is a blatant and pathological liar who would tell them what they wanted to hear in order to get their vote.

I could go on and on, but why?

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Senator Obama is ahead in the pledged delegates count because he carried practically all the “RED” states. but these res states are not turning blue in the fall. Neither Obama or Clinton can carry Gerogia, Alabama, Missiissippi and the rest of the red states. Consequently, Senator Clinton is ahead in the count of pledge delegates that really count for a democratic victory in the fall. Senator McCain will beat senator Obama by a landslide.

By bobby

May 6, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

Obama is not electable on the national scale. He only stands a chance in states with substantial black populaces. Can’t we just see a cabinet of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Al Gore?

The Democrats, just as they did in 2004, are simply handing the Presidency to the Republicans.

By John Q. Public

May 6, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

As a former military officer and veteran of Desert Shield/Storm, I DO NOT SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON. The majority of soldiers who have served in conflicts around the world DO NOT SUPPORT HILLARY CLINTON. WHY? ARMED FORCES ARE to FIGHT AND WIN WARS. Although I have the utmost respect for Bill (and he is testing that respect these days), I have none for Hillary. She has lied to the American pblic concerning her responsibilities as a First Lady. She DID NOT make policy. She may have been a sounding board for former President Clinton, but no more. She thought she was going to be coronated President but Hope and Change came along. And Just in the nick of time. Senator Obama has shown what grace and eloquence is in being a leader. Not overly emotional, lying, and back stabbing. That is NOT what this country needs. This country needs diplomcay and direction. Hillary agreed not to run in Michigan and Florida, yet she is trying to claim victory through lying and deceit. You want that for a President? The soldiers that are serving honorably and dying with valor don’t need that. The times have changed. I’ve seen it. The future is Senator Obama.

By sharon

May 6, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

For the last few months we’ve been hearing the analysts say “why can’t Obama close the deal”. The question should be, with all of Barack’s baggage why can’t she close the deal? Also, the analysts keep saying why can’t he get the blue collar worker vote?. Well the question should be why can’t she get the black vote or the young vote? The media is so one sided. The superdelegates realize that for all of Obama’s flaws, it’s time for a change and they know something about the Clinton years that we don’t.

By Rachel

May 6, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Obama is a band wagon and everyone likes to jump on a band wagon. If he gets the democratic nomination, which he will the Republicans are going to have a field day with him. His support is coming mostly from the black community and educated young voters. Both these voting blocks have no experience in dealing with the issues of America. Blacks tend to deal emotionally with things, election included. We, I am black, look at the emotion of issues but rarely the effect it has on us in the long run. Blacks are voting because of race. Clayton County is an example of what happens when you vote on race. The young, educated are just coming into the world and dealing with things older middle class citizens have experience in dealing with before. The cost of gas, housing crisis, rise in education, increase in food cost is just beginning to affect them. Older middle class citizens can handle the pressures and experience in dealing with these issue. We don’t need a President who has to wait for his advisors and the speech writers to finish before he has concrete solutions.

Superdelegates where put in place to vote what was best for the party and our country. They are falling in line school kids in a popularity contest. Hillary might not be the “new” wave but she is proven and take all the Republican will dish out come this summer. Once it becomes apparent we will have another 4 years of Republican rule I bet the superdelegates will wish they would have voted for what was best. And, then Hillary can have her “I knew it” moment.

By I have a question...

May 6, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

What do “they” have Barack Obama???? Really.

I want to know. It’s out there; the challenge for anyone to give me and the world anything of substance that “they” have to keep Obama from being elected.

Makes you wonder why they go after a guy who was his preacher.

They have no corruption scandals, no sex scandals, no NOTHING.

THAT’S why “they” make Rev. Wright such a big issue. THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE ON HIM!! Chew on that one phonies!!

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

My reason to be for Senator clinton is simple. Suppose my teeager son or duaghter come home and says to me , hey dad move over. from now on I want to be the head of the household.

In political terms, Senator Obama is like my teenager son. He has been in the Senate just 3 years and by his own account, he daid thast he has be campaigning for President for 15 months. He has not record of any significant legislastion in the Senate. In Illinois he got elected by beating a nobody. to me he is full of hubris(arrogance).

He came from nowhere just yesterday and he wants to be President?

For the blacks that are saying that they will not vote for Senator clinton, let me remember them an election that took place in Mississippi 25 years. gov. William Winters was running for the senate seat vacate by Senator Stennis. His oponent was congressman Trent Lott. Gov. Winter was ahead until Charles Evers, a black mayor of Port gibson decided to run as an independent. Ninety percent of the blacks in Mississippi voted for Charles Evers. Trent Lott was elected. Gov. Winters, a liberal democrats and the best southern governor ever was defeated by a close margin.

I am sure that Senator Sam Nunn remembers that election. However, he did not learn the lesson of history.

Senator Obama is ahead in the pledged delegates count, but almost one third or more come from red states that in the fall will be carry by Senator Mc.Cain.

Atlanta elects only black mayors. Is that racism? All the african nations only elect black presidents. The chances of a white person been elected president in Congo, Ghana, rodhesia etc etc are slim and nill. Is that racism?

In the United States the mayority of the people are white. Is electing a white president in the United States racism?

I am latino and I was supporting Bill Richardson. He was not selected in the primaries. What I am going to do? Get a hissy fit and stay home in November? Of course no. I am going to vote for the democratic nominee. Is a latino entitled to be a President just because we are the bigger manority group in U.S.? Certainly no. Is a black candidate entitled to become president of the United States, just because he is black? Certainly no.

I am voting for the democratic nominee. But Latinos have another choice. Senator McCain. Senator McCain sponsor the Comprehensive Reform Act this year. where was Senator Obama when this piece of important legislation was been considered in the Senate. He was AWOl. He did not lent his considerable “influence” to the passage of this important legislation that had the support of the latino mayority minority.

Between Senator McCain and senator Clinton do the black minority has a choice? I don’t think so. You can remain at home at your own peril

By Rachel

May 6, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

I don’t think all blacks will stay home if Clinton get the nomination. The younger ones will and that’s fine because they have no clue what they are voting for in the first place. The bridge between younger and older blacks has long since vanish. We in the black community are so broken we don’t know where to begin to heal. Instead of the radio stations/personalities, Frank Ski, Tom Joyner, Warren Ballentine, Michael Baisden, etc. pumping up Obama because he is black they should have been pumping up the democratic party. If Obama doesn’t get the nomination blacks will be screaming for the rest of their lives. Slavery and Obama is all we will talk about.

In what Elisha posted was true to a certain degree. Blacks tend to vote for blacks and rarely ever see proper representation for their vote. How many years was the Washington, DC subjected to the foolishness of Marion Berry. This man was a crack addict. Detroit has Kwuame and he fell in love with his secretary or whatever she was. I’m not saying white candidates don’t have their scandals but rarely do they continue to tolerant it from politicans like we do.

By tiff

May 6, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Rachel, You said blacks are voting because of race. In the last election no one black was running, so if you can, please tell me “Why did me and millions of blacks come out to vote”. And if that were also the case. Why is Ms. Angelou, Magic Johnson, and other blacks endorsing Hillary. And by the way she is getting a percentage of the black vote. What about these people. Are they not considered black like the rest of us who are supporting Obama. And trust me there is no anger here. It’s just erks me to be the last one to know things about myself.

By One

May 6, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Blacks will not sit home in November and let McCain be elected if Hilary goes on the ticket. Bullshyt, watch and see!!! And if not, I will definitely not be voting Democrat, and I’m sure many others feel this way. If she is allowed to lie and steal her way on to the ticket, I will seperate myself (and encourage as many others to do so as possible) from the party!!! Period!!!

By Hector Camacho

May 6, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Alba

You don’t count toward the demographic percentage in this country if you are ILLEGAL. So spare us the false statistic.

And I’m guessing you voted for and supported Bill Richardson for what reason other than the fact that he was Hispanic?

Spare us your rhetoric please.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

The superdelegates are just pandering to the second largest manority in the United State. If the want to pander to minorities they should select Bill Richardson from the largest minority in the United States.

When the Senate was discussing the Comprehensive Immigration Reform where was Senator Obama. AWOL. Where was the black comunity? AWOL.

Are the people in the Congo or Nigeria entitled to have a white president just because whites are a minority in those countries? Certaily no. Are the blacks and latinos entitled to have a president from their ethinicity just because we are in the minority? Certainly no. We do not need to have a black president or a latino president. What blacks and latinos need to do is finish high school and go to college. That is the only way to get ahead in this country. when I got to this country, i did speak english Istill I am not very good you might say), but in less that four years I got a BBA and i cannot complain about my life. I will vote from anyone for President, white, black, latino, chinese, mongolian, as long as he or she is the nominee of the Democratic Party. Senator McCain is not a choice for neither blacks, latinos or filipinos. Staying at home is absolutely STUPID.

By Olga

May 6, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

This is because anyone with any kind of intelligence knows that Rev. Wright is not a story. Has anyone seen anything in what Obama has done in his life that mirrors any of the things that Wright talks about? Since when does what someone else says define you? I believe that when you go to church, as many of us do every Sunday, if you don’t like the sermon and you disagree with it, you don’t accept it. But, you go back to church the next week, because of the faith, the community and probably the pot luck supper that will be happening next month.People who have continued to make this a story have found an excuse for their own prejudices and bigotry.

By I'm with you 1

May 6, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

I hear you One. Apparently folks out here don’t know who they are dealing with these days. They seem to be believe that Black folks are out of consciousness. I truly believe that this election has awakened the sleeping giant that for so long has been the Black community.

I will also be one of those activists out here who will do all I can to turn people away from the Democratic Party. It was done before, it can happen again. I believe a third party will finally arise after this election.

By sharon

May 6, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Rachel if you truly listen to our radio personalities then you would know that everyday Warren Balentine, Al Sharpton, Tom Joyner and especially Micheal Baisden tell their viewers that regardless of the outcome, we must be united and vote regardless of who the cadidate is. Micheal Baisden goes so far as to say that he believes in his heart regardless of what the polls say people will come out and vote Democratic in November. I don’t know what circle you travel in but the Blacks I spend time with don’t talk about “slavery and Obama”. Maybe you need to change your inner circle or perhaps get a clue.

By hirsutedawg

May 6, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Old91A10, with all due respect his exact words were “*What exactly did Tom Bradley do for Blacks in LA after 20 years of leadership? Absolutely nothing, just look at the statistics, Coleman Young of Detroit, nothing. What did Bill Campbell do for Atlanta Blacks after 8 years of his Administration, absolutely nothing; *” He needs to do something for himself and quit waiting for someone to do something for him. It’s also true millions of whites voted for Bush, but I don’t think it’s for the nefarious reasons he submits to. Millions of whites (myself included) did not vote for him because of what he’s done to this country. 16 years of Bush-Clinton-Bush is enough. That said, it’s time for Americans to take back the electoral process and reject the dumbing down of issues (which the republicans perfected) If, as a voter, your only source of information is polls or Neal Boortz do us all a favor and stay home.

By HMMMMM

May 6, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

It’s really a SAD state of affairs for the Dems. Obama, who has done nothing to merit a job at the whitehouse. Hillary, who is a CRIMINAL! She wouldn’t know the truth if it hit her between the eyes…. Any republican running could beat either one of these candidates. This country is headed downhill fast!

By Yellow Dog

May 6, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

I am very disappointed with women. They should be ashamed of themselves. Every time I mention supporting Hillary, a woman says, “We’re just not ready for a woman in the white house.” or “Women are just too emotional…” or “She’s a b*** on wheels…” I don’t believe that anyone should vote based on a person’s race or gender, but you also shouldn’t rule out a candidate based on race or gender.

Women need to wake up. How do they ever expect to be taken seriously when they just backstab each other?

By sharon

May 6, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

Thank you Olga for your comments. People are acting as if this man preached this way every Sunday for twenty years! In Twenty years all they can come up with is two freakin sermons! Give me a break. Anybody who uses Reverend Wright against Obama was never planning to vote for him anyway. anthony m. alba you need tp learn how to spell and use proper English before you try to insult someone.

By Christopher Smith

May 6, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this

I think that, on the whole, the Democratic party electorate has made up its mind that Obama is the candidate, just like it did with Kerry on the eve of the Iowa primary in 2004. Once this “decision” has been made (who knows how, when or where it is made, but some kind of aura of inevitability, often induced by the kind of tone the media takes, emerges), only some revelation bordering on the criminal can change it. When did this happen? Probably around the time of the South Carolina primary, when voters were given a glimpse of what a White House with Hillary at the helm and Bill in the wings (dropping a few ill-advised rhetorical bombshells/ emotional eruptions every week or so) would really be like. Too much drama to have to endure again, too much media over-analysis of she said-he said, too much baggage which would once again derail any meaningful solutions to the host of problems with which the country is now so overwhelmed. I think the attack-dog mode Hillary took and the sad but obvious indication that Bill’s vaunted political touch had been lost by too many years of being lionized outside of the political arena made many realize that, while the Clinton presidency was a wonderful time to be American both here and abroad, it had a few too many “cringe” moments that won’t bear repeating.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Tiff you are out touched with the american people. Ok, seat at home and do not vote. But later on do not complain. Staying a home is the same thing that voting for Senator McCain. I will rather take senator clinton with all her bagagge and Senator McCain. Blacks are not entitled to have a president just because the candidate happens to be black. do you think that the people in the Congo are entitled to have a white president just because white are a minority in that country.? What mainorities in this country need to do(both blacks and latinos is finished high school with decent grades and go to college and stop having hissy fits like an adolecent. In this couintry nobody is entitled to anything.

By SOUTHSIDE

May 6, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

IS IT TOO LATE TO BRING BACK JOHN EDWARDS!!!!! HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE MAN ANYWAY.

By SOUTHSIDE

May 6, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

IS IT TOO LATE TO BRING BACK JOHN EDWARDS!!!!! HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE MAN ANYWAY.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Mitchelle Obama comments about America as a country are a mirror of her former pastor’s statements from the pulpit.

By BAG

May 6, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

I am so tired of everyone saying that Obama has no experience and will not make a great president. How many experienced presidents have we had and what have they done to make this country better….NONE!

Also, not all blacks will vote for Obama because of the color of his skin, but there will be some whites who wont’t vote for him because of the color of his skin.

By BAG

May 6, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

I am so tired of everyone saying that Obama has no experience and will not make a great president. How many experienced presidents have we had and what have they done to make this country better….NONE!

Also, not all blacks will vote for Obama because of the color of his skin, but there will be some whites who won’t vote for him because of the color of his skin.

By BossLady

May 6, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

The One your are correct

By tar

May 6, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Anthony M. Alba,

Please go to the Library of Congress website www.loc.gov and you will see that your information is bogus. Sen. Obama was an Illinois State Senator for 8 years and has been in the U.S. Senate since 2005. Therefore, he has over 10 years experience. Unfortunately, Sen. Clinton was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2000. Therefore, she only have over 7 years of experience.

I’m sure your wife can not count your work experience as her work experience. So, why do Sen. Clinton’s supporters want to count her experience as former President Clinton’s work experience.

Believe me, Laura Bush will never count President Bush work experience has her own.

Maybe, your teenage son knows more about running the household than you give him credit.

Another thing, Blacks will not be staying home if Sen. Clinton gets the nomination fair and square, but we will if she receives it by corrupt means. If you, are willing to belong to a corrupt party, then you do so at your own peril. To stay with a corrupt party would really be teaching your teenage son about wrong and right.

By Yellow Dog

May 6, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Everyone keeps saying that those who hold Rev. Wright’s comments against Obama were never going to vote for him in the first place. WRONG. I was going to vote for Obama until the Rev. Wright story broke. I cannot support a man who listened to that drivel for 20 years.

It’s one thing to disagree with a statement made by your pastor, but it is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE to continue to attend a church that spews that kind of rhetoric.

By HMMMMM

May 6, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

I just can’t let this pass! Christopher Smith writes that the Clinton presidency was a wonderful time. What in the world is he smoking? Mr. Clinton will go down as the worst disgrace that this country has ever had to endure! The only reason there was anything positive, was the republicans forcing his hand on many initiatives that would have never seen the light of day had there not been a controlling republican majority. Good grief people, if your going to vote, at least do a little research on your perspective candidate. I am NOT a republican or democrat. I will vote for the best man/woman for the job. I personally believe that we should clean house and start over again! This country is a mess, and the only way to fix it is to rid ourselves of the trash thats in Washington!

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Camacho, I came to this country in 1961, and I have been an american citizen since 1967. I have work for the nited states government since 1968. I have a PH.D. Economics and speak four languages. Is that good enough for you? Sorry my computer does not allow me to correct my typographical errors.

By tar

May 6, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Get A Life,

Thank you for your support. According to The Library of Congress website www.loc.gov, Sen. Obama gave a speech in October 2002 opposing the Bush administration’s plan to go to war in Irag because he felt it was an ill-conceived venture which would “require a U.S. occupation of undertermined length, at undermined costs, with undertermined consequences.” He gave that speech when he was a member of the Illinois State Senate, so I strongly feel that he would have voted against the war if he was in the U.S. Senate.

By BeBe KID

May 6, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Ms Tucker,

The Superdelegates remain loyal to Obama because of his denunciation of REV Wright. Although many black people believe many of the things REV Wright said and many of Wright’s comments were twisted and taken out of context, Obama proved to the white patriots that he is not an angry militant black man with subversive motives who harbors a deep rooted hidden resentment of America. Most black superdelegates will not waiver.

Obama’s actions are very similar to blacks who work in the public or private sector AJC included who are very critical of other blacks or act as a buffer to black advancement. Blacks who display this type behavior are more likely to be promoted.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Sr. Camacho, nunca he sido partidario del Gov. Richardson. Lo use simplement como illustracion. En las primarias en Georgia vote por Senator Clinton. In the general election in November votare por el nominado por mi partido democrata.

Los hijos de ilegales nacidos aqui son ciudadanos americanos. El aumento de la poblacion latino, according to the burea of the Census, se debe mayormente a latinos nacidos aqui en este pais. De acuerdo con el B. of the Census los latinos somos la minoria mas grande en este pais.

Personalmente creo que lo mejor para los latinos y negros seria unirnos como minoria. Podriamos lograr mas unidos que separados. Aqui en Georgia como en otras partes de los Estados Unidos la mayor fuente de crimen contra latinos proviene de los negros y no de los blancos. Que bochornoso.

By RightyTighty

May 6, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

I love these primary elections!!!

By Fed Up

May 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Hilary is a LIAR, plain and simple! She will say WHATEVER folks want to hear to get hteir votes and leave them hanging later. The media was far too focused on the Rev. Wright issue, which has caused more drama than needed. I have been a member of a local church for ten years, and I can tell you right now, I don’t cosign on everything my Pastor says. Even though he’s a brilliant man, and very well-respected in/out of this country! It was irresponsible to attack a man on the words that came from another man’s mouth! How dare Barack be expected to justify and explain what Rev. Wright said as if they were his own words. With all due respect, no one has accused Hilary of being a liar and cheat just because of the words and deeds of her husband. Bill Clinton lied not only to his wife, but to a Grand Jury about his actions and we all celebrated her courage to stand by her man during the whole ordeal. Hilary insists she is for working class Americans and Barack is an Elitist. Now, in all her “stumping” around the Nation, I have not once seen her well-manicured nails wrapped around any pork-rinds, fork full of chitlins or greens - any kind. She and Bill are not taking donations to pay a gas, light or water bill. So please spare the “I was born the daughter of a share-cropper speech”. The American public is much smarter, in the end.

By Fed Up

May 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Hilary is a LIAR, plain and simple! She will say WHATEVER folks want to hear to get hteir votes and leave them hanging later. The media was far too focused on the Rev. Wright issue, which has caused more drama than needed. I have been a member of a local church for ten years, and I can tell you right now, I don’t cosign on everything my Pastor says. Even though he’s a brilliant man, and very well-respected in/out of this country! It was irresponsible to attack a man on the words that came from another man’s mouth! How dare Barack be expected to justify and explain what Rev. Wright said as if they were his own words. With all due respect, no one has accused Hilary of being a liar and cheat just because of the words and deeds of her husband. Bill Clinton lied not only to his wife, but to a Grand Jury about his actions and we all celebrated her courage to stand by her man during the whole ordeal. Hilary insists she is for working class Americans and Barack is an Elitist. Now, in all her “stumping” around the Nation, I have not once seen her well-manicured nails wrapped around any pork-rinds, fork full of chitlins or greens - any kind. She and Bill are not taking donations to pay a gas, light or water bill. So please spare the “I was born the daughter of a share-cropper speech”. The American public is much smarter, in the end.

By Fed Up

May 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Hilary is a LIAR, plain and simple! She will say WHATEVER folks want to hear to get hteir votes and leave them hanging later. The media was far too focused on the Rev. Wright issue, which has caused more drama than needed. I have been a member of a local church for ten years, and I can tell you right now, I don’t cosign on everything my Pastor says. Even though he’s a brilliant man, and very well-respected in/out of this country! It was irresponsible to attack a man on the words that came from another man’s mouth! How dare Barack be expected to justify and explain what Rev. Wright said as if they were his own words. With all due respect, no one has accused Hilary of being a liar and cheat just because of the words and deeds of her husband. Bill Clinton lied not only to his wife, but to a Grand Jury about his actions and we all celebrated her courage to stand by her man during the whole ordeal. Hilary insists she is for working class Americans and Barack is an Elitist. Now, in all her “stumping” around the Nation, I have not once seen her well-manicured nails wrapped around any pork-rinds, fork full of chitlins or greens - any kind. She and Bill are not taking donations to pay a gas, light or water bill. So please spare the “I was born the daughter of a share-cropper speech”. The American public is much smarter, in the end.

By Fed Up

May 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Hillary is a LIAR, plain and simple! She will say WHATEVER folks want to hear to get their votes and leave them hanging later. The media was far too focused on the Rev. Wright issue, which has caused more drama than needed. I have been a member of a local church for ten years, and I can tell you right now, I don’t cosign on everything my Pastor says. Even though he’s a brilliant man, and very well-respected in/out of this country! It was irresponsible to attack a man on the words that came from another man’s mouth! How dare Barack be expected to justify and explain what Rev. Wright said as if they were his own words. With all due respect, no one has accused Hillary of being a liar and cheat just because of the words and deeds of her husband. Bill Clinton lied not only to his wife, but to a Grand Jury about his actions and we all celebrated her courage to stand by her man during the whole ordeal. Hillary insists she is for working class Americans and Barack is an Elitist. Now, in all her “stumping” around the Nation, I have not once seen her well-manicured nails wrapped around any pork-rinds, fork full of chitlins or greens - any kind. She and Bill are not taking donations to pay a gas, light or water bill. So please spare the “I was born the daughter of a share-cropper speech”. The American public is much smarter, in the end.

By shay

May 6, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

It’s funny that when people don’t know what the hell they are talking about relating to politics, they turn to black/white racism. Read people! Obama and Hilary are two very smart qualified nominees and people have their right to vote for either candidate, but don’t insult anyone’s intelligence saying they are only voting because Hilary is white or because Obama is black. That shiz is ignorant (excuse the language). And please tell you your reason for not voting for a candidate is because you don’t think they have “experience”. Who in the world has experience being the freakin’ President if you’ve never been one.

By tar

May 6, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Anthony M. Alba,

I see you are the ignorant one. First of all, I am a Black woman who is a college graduate and is now working on my MBA. I have two more courses to go to complete my MBA. Oh, MBA stands for Masters of Business Administration. My husband has his masters and my daughter has her MBA. So as you can see these Black people have gone on to college, therefore, we will not say anything as ignorant as what you are saying.

You feel that since Blacks and Latinos are minorities in this country, then there should not be a minority President. Anthony, if you break down the White race you will see that there are all kinds of minorities within it (European, Irish, Scandinavian, etc.) So now how do you decide who is the minority? If you use some intelligence and vote for the candidate who will best serve the whole country instead of voting according to race, then maybe this country would not be in the sad state of affairs that it is in currently.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

When over 90 percent of blacks voted for senator Obama, what percentage voted for him on the basis of merit and what percentage voted for him because he is black? I don’t know, but I am sure that for great many of these voters race was the only issue.

Ninety percent (90 %)? give me a brake man///

By Bob

May 6, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Superdelegates are politicians and political leaders of the DNC. So obviously, any pledge from them can be considered realitively meaningless until they actually vote.

Which leaves the fact that Hillary is swiftly closing the national gap. Due to the Obama bungloids and that 10 million viewer O’Reilly bounce she’s still riding..

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

What no bill clinton the first black president? What happen after Senator Obama decided to run for president? All of the sudden Bill and Hillary, in the eyess of the black community, became the devil incarnate. They were no so bad during 8 years of economic prosperity and high employment rates for every american including a record high number of blacks.

By RealityKing

May 6, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

tar…, congradulations on completing your MBA! You now have the same education level as Bush!!

Hmmmm…., why do I suddenly feel my ears buring??

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Tar, if you disagree with me you can do it with civility. You do not have to insult me by calling me an ignorant. I congratulate you for your acomplishments, as well as your husband. But you and I are not typical in our ethnicities. Most latinos(brown) do not finish high school and a small percentage go to college. As far as I know blacks has the same or similar record, specially black males. So by points was that a latino president or a black president is not going to do a lot to us unless members of our community help themselves. I think that we can agree in that much. It is a fact that our members are not finishing high school at a rate equal to white or even close. That goes for both black and latinos.

for your information there only a few races in this world. Black, white, brown, and yellow. Latino is not a race. Latinos are white, black, mulattoes, chinese, yews etc etc.

The europian groups you mention are not minorities, they are white (caucasians). I am from Spain, I am white. But I am also latino, so all the latinos are my pals.

I do not have anything against Obama. But I do know all the europen types that you mentioned, I know that they will vote for Mc.Cain rather than Obama. Being realist is not been racist.

By karla

May 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

I is interesting to see the comments about the black voters threats of staying home if Sen. Clinton get the nomination being trivilize but when the white voters made the same statement you some how tried to justify it. This proves tha racism is still alive and triving in the good ole U.S.A. the supposedly land of opportunity and equality for all.

By karla

May 6, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

I is interesting to see the comments about the black voters threats of staying home if Sen. Clinton get the nomination being trivilize but when the white voters made the same statement you some how tried to justify it. This proves tha racism is still alive and triving in the good ole U.S.A. the supposedly land of opportunity and equality for all.

By karla

May 6, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

I is interesting to see the comments about the black voters threats of staying home if Sen. Clinton get the nomination being trivilize but when the white voters made the same statement you some how tried to justify it. This proves tha racism is still alive and triving in the good ole U.S.A. the supposedly land of opportunity and equality for all.

By RightyTighty

May 6, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

I love watching the Clinton fall.

They had been all the rage for so long, their incompetence and perversion excused by the left as personal. Until…, a new rage hit town, a rage of a different color. And now here sit the Clintons, wondering why they have been deserted on the left flank. Asking themselves…, How could they not be in the lead with ALL that they had done for the left??

Yes, I do love watching the Clinton fall.., and the DNC’s destruction.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Posting comments here is becoming adictive. Since we can not agree for either Obama or Clinton how about reelecting Al Gore.

I am closing, let the candidate of your dreams be the winner. Best wishes. To those that did not agree with my comments, sorry, that is the price we have to pay in a free and democratic country. God bless American and WE THE PEOPLE.

By Get A Life

May 6, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Tar wrote: He gave that speech when he was a member of the Illinois State Senate, so I strongly feel that he would have voted against the war if he was in the U.S. Senate.

Reiterating my previous post, no one knows how he would have voted if he was in the Senate. Giving a speech and voting are two different things. With politicans; most, not all, say one thing and when it is time to vote, vote another way.

By CJ

May 6, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

It isn’t working? Every person I know who voted for Obama in earlier primaries wishes they had not! That’s the worst thing about this system… every day a new event can twist its outcome. This is unfair! Obama has laid in bed with Rev. Wright and woke up with fleas! ‘I can no more disown him than my own white grandmother’. Yeah, right. Obama is a flip flopping jellyfish who does NOT deserve the nomination. Hillary offers ACTION PLANS where Obama offers lofty hope, dreams, clouds, and fairies. We need Hillary, not Obama.

By RightyTighty

May 6, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Hey CJ!

I’m proud to say I voted for Obama!!

By Weary Democrat

May 6, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

I think many (including me) have been dismayed at the way the Clintons have conducted themselves during this campaign. Maybe they were always willing to say/do whatever it takes to get elected, but it is just becoming apparent to some of us. We don’t need that kind of leadership, but especially not now. Hopefully the superdelegates feel the same way.

By shay

May 6, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

OMG, what Rev. Wright said should not discredit Obama. I KNOW I have not agreed 100% with everything my pastor of 27 years has said. Does that make me a bad person cause I didn’t get up and walk out?? NOPE!! If your spouse makes a strong comment that she is passionate about that you completely disagree with, does that mean you throw away 25 years of marriage or that you should be held accountable for what she believes. Hell no!! Wake up people. Rev. Wright and only Rev. Wright should be accounted for his actions. Obama hasn’t done anything. You guys are just looking for a reason to discredit him and so far, no one has done anything to convince me that he isn’t the best candidate of the three to be our next President.

By Hector Camacho

May 6, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

…Then you need to return that Ph.D you hold Mr Alba for a full refund, because you obviously cannot see from the context of what I typed that I was not referring to you specifically, rather the fact that you would be using a number based on a large % of ILLEGALS in the country. Just because it’s a warm body doesn’t mean it counts as a legitimate demographic statistic.

FYI.. I have NO degree, speak 1 language (English), yet still have an awesome career, upper middle class income and an overall great life- living the american “dream”. So what???

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Tar, I know what an MBA stands for. Since you like to mention your educational resume, I will give you mine. Sorry this stuff is only for my friend tar.

First I got a Law degree from the University of La Habana, La Habana, Cuba. Landed here when I was 25 years old. the first thing that i did was to attend adult education at Newport News High School, in Newport News, Virginia to start learning English. Six month later I enrolled at Chowan College, Murfresboro, N.C and earned a AA in Business Administration (graduated at the highest of my class). enrolled at Hardin Simmons University, Abilene, Texas. Completed a BBA ( third highest in my graduating class) Since i did not have a job at the time nor I was looking for one, enrolled at Abilene Christian University, Abilene, Texas and earned a MBA. Later on I earned a MPA(Master of Public Administration) from the University of Mississippi, Oxford, Mississippi. One more year of graduate work in Economics. Never finish my PH.D.

As you can see tar , I am the most educated ignorant that you have come accross. God bless you and your family.

thank you cynthia and the AJC for the opportunity to have these high level exchanges.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

Tar, I know what an MBA stands for. Since you like to mention your educational resume, I will give you mine. Sorry this stuff is only for my friend tar.

First I got a Law degree from the University of La Habana, La Habana, Cuba. Landed here when I was 25 years old. the first thing that i did was to attend adult education at Newport News High School, in Newport News, Virginia to start learning English. Six month later I enrolled at Chowan College, Murfresboro, N.C and earned a AA in Business Administration (graduated at the highest of my class). enrolled at Hardin Simmons University, Abilene, Texas. Completed a BBA ( third highest in my graduating class) Since i did not have a job at the time nor I was looking for one, enrolled at Abilene Christian University, Abilene, Texas and earned a MBA. Later on I earned a MPA(Master of Public Administration) from the University of Mississippi, Oxford, Mississippi. One more year of graduate work in Economics. Never finish my PH.D.

As you can see tar , I am the most educated ignorant that you have come accross. God bless you and your family.

thank you cynthia and the AJC for the opportunity to have these high level exchanges.

By tar

May 6, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Anthony M. Alba,

A great many white do not finish high school nor college. Your first ignorant statement was when you compared your teenage son to Sen. Obama. It was wrong and disrepectful. First of all, Sen. Obama has more experience than Sen. Clinton. Check your facts. To say that Blacks and Latinos do not finish high school and college is ignorant. You made a general statement about All Blacks and Latinos. Also, when you break down the Caucasian race, you have people from many different regions of the world. They said that John F. Kennedy could not win the Presidential race because he was an Irish Catholic. They did not say he could not win because he was White. Since, the U.S. is a melting pot there are many people of the Caucasian Race who comes from different places such as Europe, Russia, Ireland, South Africa, etc. So if you breakdown the Caucasian Race further, you will have minorities of people.

Also, you have a Ph.D. in Economics, so you know that NAFTA has not been good for the U.S. Pres. Clinton cut the spending on a great many projects to balance the budget. One of the cuts was the funding to the Corps of Engineer for projects, which led to the collapse of the levy in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. The strength of the military was also cut, now there are not enough to fight the Iraq War.

The Iraq War economies are, who is it benefitting, who is paying for it monetarily and in lives? The answer, the U.S. taxpayers. So, if Sen. McCain plans to stay in Iraq a hundred years, who will pay for it. Again the U.S. taxpayers.

No, Pres. Clinton put through NAFTA and the U.S. is the ones who are suffering the aftermath. The companies had not moved the jobs overseas.

Anthony, what do you call Whites voting for Whites? Is that racism or do you feel that they are voting for who they consider is the best candidate. So, why do you think Blacks do not have the same intelligence to vote for the candidate who they consider to be the best.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

As democrats lets unite. After 8 years of Bush we have a win win proposition with either Obama or Clinton. Odviously either one is capable of doing any can of trick to get nominate. So what. do we want four more years of bush with McCain? Do we want and endless war in the Middle east? Do we, as americans, stant for torture? If you can not vote for Obama or clinton, on election day, please get drunk(consult with your pastor first) and go and vote.

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

As democrats lets unite. After 8 years of Bush we have a win win proposition with either Obama or Clinton. Odviously either one is capable of doing any can of trick to get nominate. So what. do we want four more years of bush with McCain? Do we want and endless war in the Middle east? Do we, as americans, stant for torture? If you can not vote for Obama or clinton, on election day, please get drunk(consult with your pastor first) and go and vote.

By pj

May 6, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

I think long, over-the-top, emotionally satisfying but substantively empty rants are the main reason Obamatrons and Obama scare me. Does anyone else see some historical similarities with this kind of epiphanical, political theatre where we are told that we are at the end of our rope, there is a new messiah in town with all the answers who loves us all, but we also got someone to blame — any other time that might have happened in our past?

By Ms. PD

May 6, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

It is very easy to frame out a structure of how you want to run a country and all the so called changes you want… it is a very good theme to get people to react to you. But it is a completely different game to actually put the strategies or visions into action items and act on them. To take tough decisions. It took 20 years for Obama to realize/ denounce somebody whom he calls “his unlce”. I dont think a country has 20 years for him to take a simple “walk-away” decision. Clinton is a doer. She puts strategies, converts them into plans and executes on them. She is a visionary, a leader and a perfect example of what America is all about. America is for people who do things not just talk. Superdelegates are also in a tough spot- they cannot just defect the Obama camp without bringing more spotlight on it. But they need to sit back and really think abt whats good for the country. The decision is very clear- It is Hillary Clinton as the next President of USA.

By natal

May 6, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

I can see it now when the Michigan delegates are seated: Hillary 55%, Uncommitted 40%, and Obama 0%. Get real Hillary supporters. It ain’t going to work this way no matter how much you push.

By saywhat

May 6, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

To Fed-up and the rest of you that agrees with his comment: “It was irresponsible to attack a man on the words that came from another man’s mouth! How dare Barack be expected to justify and explain what Rev. Wright said as if they were his own words.”
I say you are full of crap - what do you mean it was “irresponsible”? Obama claims that his man has been his “confident” and “spiritual leader” for the last 20 years and it doesn’t concern you that Obama may not be effected by that?? If it came out that George Bush’s “spiritual advisor and leader” was David Duke or someone from the KKK when he was running in 2000 and 2004 - do you not think that would effect how people feel about Bush? Heck yea - that would have been the focus for months and Bush would have been forced to withdraw. If you don’t think it matters who a person associates with and calls “my mentor” or “advisor” than you are too stupid to be voting.

By Marianne, Chicago

May 6, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Run a web search on “Delegate Calulator” - I recommend the one on Slate.com.

This shows that it is impossible for Hillary to catch up without…a time machine.

The media is reluctant to admit this as the “contest” is good for ratings…but it is over, folks.

By HSP

May 6, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

enough of these hereditary presidencies. Who wants the wife of a former president to be president? Look what happened when we let a former president’s son be president. Didn’t work out so well…

By anthony M. Alba

May 6, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Mr. Camacho, thank you for your nice coments. I cannot believe that a person with the surname Camacho can only speak one language, english.

I understand your statements. It is the United States Bureau of the Census who says that the Latino population is the largest minority in the United States. Illegals are not counted, only those who are american citizens. The reason for that is that the birth rate among Latino families is 3.8 while the birth rate among “american: families is 1.8 That means that latin families make more unprotected love that the other families. so if the “american” want to remains the majority in this country they need to bring more babies to this world.

I wish I could get a refund for my degree. I just finished paying my loans 4 years ago. That money will come handy to pay for gasoline and food.

I am going to close. The Spanish news come in just fifteen minutes. I am sorry that you can only speak one language. A man of your capabilities of course does not need to speak more than one language neither go to college. Congratulations on your accomplishments.

By fred17

May 6, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

I fear that a only a just God, and more super delegates, can save us from another self absorbed and dishonest Clinton

By Jen

May 6, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

I think this article says it all about Obama. What better time to elect a president who is a consensus-builder and can work across the partisan divide and with people of different stripes than now when the US is in such a precarious state domestically and internationally. I highly doubt that the Clintons will restore the US’s image in the world - think of all the controversies while they were in the White House (filegate, travelgate etc.). Time for the country to move forward not regress!

http://www.law.harvard.edu/news/2008/02/22_mack.php

By JDMF

May 6, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Why would they? I don’t believe that Obama is losing any of his support because of this Wright baloney; Hillary might be gaining some undecideds or some fence-sitters over it, but most Obama supporters (including superdelegates) see the ‘scandal’ for what it is: nonsense. Many of us (gasp!) agree with most of what Wright has said and agree with Barack’s “bitter” comments, so for us there is no controversy here.

This stuff is only a controversy to those right-wing crazies and their talk radio/fox news attack dogs…and all the gullible suckers they cater to. Remember this is a primary for democrats, not republican talking heads.

By Hector Camacho

May 6, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Before you go Mr Alba.

FYI.. I chose to serve my country in the military for 15 years, which took up most of my young adult life. And you know what? The education I got there was more valuable than any I could have received on anyone’s college campus.

Thank you.

By Edward

May 6, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

The Clinton’s machine can NOT steal this election.

By Clinton 2X

May 6, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

What is a superdelegate?

By Doug Teper

May 6, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

What percentage of the total delegates did John F. Kennedy win in primaries in 1960 ?

This question comes from IRAQ.

By Stayfocused

May 6, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

I think the superdelegates know more about the Clinton baggage than everyone else. They know that a Clinton ticket would me rehashing Whitewater, over 150 Clinton controversial pardons (including the money that Senator Clinton’s brothers accepted to have their friends pardon), and now this Peter Paul trial out in Los Angeles. In other words, these people that they are trying to link to Obama are playground chatter when compared to the Clinton associates. Also, the superdelegates do not want to revisit the partisanship of the 90’s. The country is a critical point where we really do need to be united. There was also division within the Democratic Party during the Clinton years. The Democrats lost their majority in both houses of Congress during the Clinton years (1994) after her Health Reform bill failed in a Democratic Congress.

By **NATIVE SON**

May 6, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

What matters to me mostly, is what I’ve observed thru the debates. Mrs. Clintons role as our First Lady, and her not so covert manufactured Senate run. She has been campaigning for the presidency since 98’. So we’ve all had a pretty good look at her. I’m no political analyst by a long shot, but I know how to read people. And so far, what I can tell is; she truly may not be a bad person per se’, but all the negative things she said during this run has totally eroded what credibility she did have, and that her moral compass is really busted. The most egregious being every subtle, and sublime, attempt at pulling out the race card, with her husband in tow as well. The point I want to make is, that if what I’m hearing is correct, then more people are making an attempt at voting intelligently by disregarding stereotypes, and she’s pandering to & trying to bait the hatemongers. It’s history 101, and that my friends is what we need a change from. Status Qou. She lost me at “hello”. Peace from da Native

By Elisha

May 6, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Elisha-back at you! Good responses guys, I’m not trying to go off on a tangent, however, I think we should be happy we live in a country were we can express our selves and don’t have to worry about the secret police tracking us down, such as, The East German Stais, KGB, or the many Latin Secret Police organizations that existed back in the Sixties and Seventies. To the writer who questions my race, I am in-fact Black! I am also not racist, nor was I trying to be in sensitive to Whites or Latinos. When I mentioned injected the statements “What exactly did Tom Bradley do for Blacks in LA after 20 years of leadership? Absolutely nothing, just look at the statistics, Coleman Young of Detroit, nothing,” my intentions were to suggest a lack of inspiraration one would hope a leader imbues in his people. Also, the writer who suggested that “I should do something for myself,” is right on and expressed what I intended to convey in my writings. In-addition, I believe that we all have expressed some truth about America and Americans of all races and ethnicities. Although I find some have expressed some loathing or recriminations that are probably ill conceived and/or unfounded. I joined the Marines at seventeen, and knew that the Vietnam War was still raging, however, I never looked back or second-quested myself. After service I went on to obtain a college degree, and I am still moving forward. Yes, I do believe in self-help and individual endeavor to overcome the challenges that a free market economy presents. For instance, take a look at the poverty just a few miles outside of Metro-Atlanta or any other Southern City, tarpaper shacks, trailer parks, and high-school dropouts. Why do thousands of young White youth leave the South and Mid-West for California each year, knowing the odds against them, they are looking for a better life. In-fact, it’s the same reason young Blacks and Latinos come to Atlanta, looking for a better life. Yes to the writer who questioned my self-motivation, Americans are looking to better they’re chances in life and move up. We must all be sensitive to the fact that not all are fortunate enough to have parents or guardians who can supply the initial motivations and guidance necessary to navigate this “sometimes,” unforgiving society we’ve created. Those who are unable to see the light at the end of the table, turn to self-hate, destructive behaviors and criminal life-styles we all detest. Keep the comments coming guys, you’re doing great! “Semter Fi.”

By Tony

May 6, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Obama has what it takes to move (government & people) to the next higher level. Given that it takes “educated” folks to understand how pandering from Hillary or McCain is wrong (and the consequences) is what makes me worry about the next generation.

By Elisha

May 6, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Elisha-back at you! Good responses guys, I’m not trying to go off on a tangent, however, I think we should be happy we live in a country were we can express our selves and don’t have to worry about the secret police tracking us down, such as, The East German Stais, KGB, or the many Latin Secret Police organizations that existed back in the Sixties and Seventies. To the writer who questions my race, I am in-fact Black! I am also not racist, nor was I trying to be in sensitive to Whites or Latinos. When I mentioned injected the statements “What exactly did Tom Bradley do for Blacks in LA after 20 years of leadership? Absolutely nothing, just look at the statistics, Coleman Young of Detroit, nothing,” my intentions were to suggest a lack of inspiraration one would hope a leader imbues in his people. Also, the writer who suggested that “I should do something for myself,” is right on and expressed what I intended to convey in my writings. In-addition, I believe that we all have expressed some truth about America and Americans of all races and ethnicities. Although I find some have expressed some loathing or recriminations that are probably ill conceived and/or unfounded. I joined the Marines at seventeen, and knew that the Vietnam War was still raging, however, I never looked back or second-quested myself. After service I went on to obtain a college degree, and I am still moving forward. Yes, I do believe in self-help and individual endeavor to overcome the challenges that a free market economy presents. For instance, take a look at the poverty just a few miles outside of Metro-Atlanta or any other Southern City, tarpaper shacks, trailer parks, and high-school dropouts. Why do thousands of young White youth leave the South and Mid-West for California each year, knowing the odds against them, they are looking for a better life. In-fact, it’s the same reason young Blacks and Latinos come to Atlanta, looking for a better life. Yes to the writer who questioned my self-motivation, Americans are looking to better they’re chances in life and move up. We must all be sensitive to the fact that not all are fortunate enough to have parents or guardians who can supply the initial motivations and guidance necessary to navigate this “sometimes,” unforgiving society we’ve created. Those who are unable to see the light at the end of the table, turn to self-hate, destructive behaviors and criminal life-styles we all detest. Keep the comments coming guys, you’re doing great! “Semter Fi.”

By Elisha

May 6, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

Elisha-back at you! Good responses guys, I’m not trying to go off on a tangent, however, I think we should be happy we live in a country were we can express our selves and don’t have to worry about the secret police tracking us down, such as, The East German Stais, KGB, or the many Latin Secret Police organizations that existed back in the Sixties and Seventies. To the writer who questions my race, I am in-fact Black! I am also not racist, nor was I trying to be in sensitive to Whites or Latinos. When I mentioned injected the statements “What exactly did Tom Bradley do for Blacks in LA after 20 years of leadership? Absolutely nothing, just look at the statistics, Coleman Young of Detroit, nothing,” my intentions were to suggest a lack of inspiraration one would hope a leader imbues in his people. Also, the writer who suggested that “I should do something for myself,” is right on and expressed what I intended to convey in my writings. In-addition, I believe that we all have expressed some truth about America and Americans of all races and ethnicities. Although I find some have expressed some loathing or recriminations that are probably ill conceived and/or unfounded. I joined the Marines at seventeen, and knew that the Vietnam War was still raging, however, I never looked back or second-quested myself. After service I went on to obtain a college degree, and I am still moving forward. Yes, I do believe in self-help and individual endeavor to overcome the challenges that a free market economy presents. For instance, take a look at the poverty just a few miles outside of Metro-Atlanta or any other Southern City, tarpaper shacks, trailer parks, and high-school dropouts. Why do thousands of young White youth leave the South and Mid-West for California each year, knowing the odds against them, they are looking for a better life. In-fact, it’s the same reason young Blacks and Latinos come to Atlanta, looking for a better life. Yes to the writer who questioned my self-motivation, Americans are looking to better they’re chances in life and move up. We must all be sensitive to the fact that not all are fortunate enough to have parents or guardians who can supply the initial motivations and guidance necessary to navigate this “sometimes,” unforgiving society we’ve created. Those who are unable to see the light at the end of the table, turn to self-hate, destructive behaviors and criminal life-styles we all detest. Keep the comments coming guys, you’re doing great! “Semter Fi.”

By ck hall

May 6, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

I think we are all having Clinton AND Obama fatigue!! Neither are electable in Nov.

By ck hall

May 6, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

I think we are all having Clinton AND Obama fatigue!! Neither are electable in Nov.