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How conservative are Ga. conservatives?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Ronald Reagan, like a lot of conservatives, often repeated the maxim “that government is best which remains closest to the people.” Back then, conservatives could still honestly claim some loyalty to concepts such as local control and small government.
But no longer. In fact, Reagan would be ashamed of those who today profess to govern Georgia in his conservative spirit. In the great legislative power grab of 2008, local control and other once-treasured conservative principles have been tossed into the trash like yesterday’s political posters, useless and outdated and in fact inconvenient to the new agenda. Which is power. (Read Jay Bookman’s entire column.)
The question: How conservative are Georgia conservatives?
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By Charles
March 13, 2008 7:35 AM | Link to this
Georgia Conservatives are just as conservative as Democrats profess to be color blind and the party for fairness. They’re also just as conservative as the AJC is objective in their reporting of the news and their views.
By Scooter
March 13, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
Conservatives typically want to help the poor, not enable them in exchange for political power.
Liberals want to feel like they are doing something to “help” the poor, but they make government more powerful and the individual weaker while enabling 90 percent of the “poor”. Then as government gets more powerful it inevitably becomes more corrupt and liberals act surprised.
Subject society to the individuals that make it up, or subject the individual to the societies they create? Libs subject the individual to the whims and needs of society and conservatives subject society to the whims and needs of the individual.
By GaLiberal
March 13, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this
Bookman nails it for the most part. Yes, the Rethuglicons are only in it for the power, but they are also in it to make sure they remain the party in power. Once they have the control then they can ensure only Rethuglicons are elected or seated on various oversight boards. Dare go against them and lose your funds for your roads or schools or whatever you need. Be a fawning sycophant and get whatever you want.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And the GA legislature is living proof.
By Red
March 13, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Georgia “conservatives” aren’t conservative at all, if you are referring to the current Republican domination. They are, like the national party, power hungry fascists. In Georgia, they have decided to usurp control of local government and take it out of the hands of the voters. They refuse to bring up such things as Sunday liquor sales, Jekyll Island’s future for the voter’s representatives to vote on. Nationally, they have decided that the people’s representatives will not be able to vote on such items as war declarations and treaties. They are doing their best to keep these kinds of issues from the Congress. They have decided that the Constitution is an old, outdated piece of paper and there is no reason to obey it. These things are decided in the White House, not in the halls of Congress. We live in scary times. It is very easy to see how the Germans allowed Hitler to take control. Our voters keep electing these people.
By Red Forman
March 13, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
They’re not conservatives, they’re conservatards.
By OneForTheRoad
March 13, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Anyone that would propose freezing property tax assessments at record highs with real estate prices on the decline surely would not also wish to further display his extreme contempt toward the concept of small government or taxpayer rights by proclaiming to be a conservative, would he? Call that person an Incumbent Georgia Republican — not a Conservative. Now, if this person were to put some “teeth” into the taxpayer bill of rights by re-directing some of the sales taxes collected via SPLOST toward property tax reduction (especially if that property is the taxpayer’s primary residence), he could demonstrate a true desire to help these most deserving Georgia residents while promoting home ownership — the President’s dream for the average American citizen. Then, if he were to look toward eliminating waste in government during his entire tenure (as opposed to the so predictable increase in “caring” for the taxpayer as we approach an election), he might earn the “conservative” label. He might even earn my vote. I’m not holding my breath.
By GaLiberal
March 13, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Scooter said: Liberals want to feel like they are doing something to “help” the poor, but they make government more powerful and the individual weaker while enabling 90 percent of the “poor”.
Scooter, I doubt if you’ve ever been ‘poor’ so your words are just typical entitlement elitist Rethuglicon crap. No one ‘enables’ someone to be poor. People are poor because they are born into poverty. If it wasn’t for all these ‘liberal’ laws that help the poor, they would have no hope at all. Which is what you evidently want. Try being poor for a few days and then run your mouth about ‘enabling’ poor people. What you call enabling I call hope.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Scooter is living proof.
By Ted P
March 13, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this
It seems funny to me that liberals think republicans are the devil incarnate, are liberals that stupid? ALL politicians are a legal mafia! They are all the same; we need more independents that work for the people, not special interest groups or big business.
By The Oddball
March 13, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
The Georgia Republicans aren’t conservative. They just play act at being conservative, tossing out the odd “tax cut” here and there. Mostly they carry water for whatever special interest group cries the loudest and offers the most campaign contributions: developers, payday lenders, banks, insurance companies, etc. They only manage state government in their spare time, and it really shows.
By GAconservative
March 13, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
Rethuglicon. Fascists.
Well now we can see this is going to be a constructive blog. Why resort to name calling? Are you that unsure of your ability to carry on a persuasive argument that invectives must be hurled. Sad.
Back to the question at hand, GA conservatives are only conservative when it suits their congregation. A true conservative would be against Government intervention not only in free the market but our private lives as well. Sadly, few “Conservatives” promise to keep their noses out of our private lives while also claiming (untruthfully) to keep their hands out of our wallets.
By OneForTheRoad
March 13, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
Oddball,
They mis-manage state government in their spare time, and it really shows. The word “manage” has positive implications that these people clearly don’t deserve.
By GT81
March 13, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
The Enemy for conservatives used to be Soviet Communism. Now their enemy is American Liberals. What’s wrong with this picture is that Soviets lived in another country, and Liberals are their brother and sister Americans. I suggest that conservatives find an enemy outside the USA. A house divided against itself cannot stand.
By Scooter
March 13, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
GaLiberal, as would be expected from a liberal, you do not address a single point in my post. Instead, you accuse me of things with no basis in reality.
Define poor. For my entire life I felt poor because we are thrifty with the little money we have and we maintain our pride by not leaching off of society. Now, I live amongst the “poor” and see how most take no PRIDE in their work but feel entitled to full rewards for shoddy work.
Wonder where they got that attitude?
By Joe Bland
March 13, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Conservatives reduce government. They cut spending. They cut taxes. They cut regulation. They protect the peace and the environment. That’s what real conservatives do. There aren’t any in Georgia that I’ve seen.
By OneForTheRoad
March 13, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
How conservative are Georgia conservatives? Perhaps you should ask, Jay, first how conservative must one be to be classified as a Georgia conservative? Also, who would be doing the classifying? I would expect, for example, that Mr. Richardson would consider himself to be Extremely Conservative in his own little world of classifications. Just so you do not think that I consider Mr. Richardson to be an exceptional case, I extend my characterization (even while acknowledging that the possibility exists that a baby is being discharged with the bath water) to all Incumbent Georgia Republicans and those Incumbent Georgia Republican’s appointees — for the sake of completeness. I, on the other hand, do disagree with any claims made by these self-proclaimed conservatives to be anything more than simply power-crazed, label-stealing, non-conservatives who could not “cut it” in the world of people that can truly be labeled as taxpayers.
I hope this helps to answer your question.
By Liquid Nails
March 13, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Glenn Dickson, er, rather Richardson is a problem and I mean a big one. He is out of control and dangerous to the public good. If his party won’t strip him of his title, maybe Thurbert Baker can find something to rein him in. One or the other needs to be done.
By The Oddball
March 13, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
Roger that, OneForTheRoad. The first duty of an elected official is to competently manage the limited duties of government. Doesn’t matter whether what party you belong to or what agenda you hold dear — you gotta run the company. You may agree with the conservative agenda or you may not, but the unfortunate fact is that the folks who call themselves “conservatives” have done a very poor job of running both the federal and state governments these last several years. Spending, emergencies, war planning, water, regulation of powerful industries — it’s all been done poorly. You can’t make up for that with tax cuts or overgeneralizations about “liberals all think this” or “liberals all think that.”
By The truth
March 13, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
I’d much rather have conservatives in power then socialist democrats. Liberals love leaders such as Che, Stalin, Marx, Chavez and Arafat. That is a plain fact. Notice how Jimmy Carter always comes to the aid of our sworn enemies and spits in the face of America. Conservatives love leaders such as Lincoln, Reagan, Limbaugh(yes he’s a leader in the conservative movement), Buckley, Churchill, Thatcher, and many other great leaders. The problem is when government and power drive the mind. That is how Repubicans lost in 06. Too much spending and not using conservative ideals.
By The Oddball
March 13, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
To “the truth”:
You say “Liberals love leaders such as Che, Stalin, Marx, Chavez and Arafat. That is a plain fact.”
Can you provide any evidence to support that generalization? I mean, you may believe it, but I have never met an American liberal who likes any of those people. It’s like saying “Conservatives love leaders like Hitler and Mussolini.” There’s no “fact” to it, plain or otherwise. All you’re really saying is “I hate liberals.”
Which, frankly, is not worth reading.
By Truthman
March 13, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Limbaugh a “leader.” Yeah, leader of the fat, stupid, grumpy, drug-addled white men of America Zombie Brigade!!
Hey Truth! How ya gonna feel after we pantywaist, bleeding-heart liberals have a veto-proof Congress, a black democratic president and the ability to pack the court with more liberals?
Can’t wait for November ‘08!! Folks such as “Truth” are in for a hard fall!!
Hahahahahahahaha!!
By The truth
March 13, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Oddball and Truthman, You are a classic example of what happens when conservatives call out liberals for who they are. HA HA!!! Thank you for illustrating my point. Limbaugh has 30 million listeners a week. Far more than any liberal commentator. I can’t wait for November. It is just like the Jimmy Carter days. Osama Obama will raise our taxes by 20% and get us bombed with weak national defense.
Also, Truthman, you have also illustrated what liberals really do. Name call. Also, you are a racist. You hate white people. If you are white then you must be a self hating white person.
Conservatism wins every time.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Also, liberals are true racists and they hate the poor. They’d rather keep poor people on welfare than help them get an education and make money on their own. Notice how the dems are throwing out race. Hello Ferraro and Clinton!!!!!!! Everything is race to liberals. They hate individualism and love communism. Liberals also love killing unborn children.
Here is a great video about how truly crazy liberals have become. It’s from the Daily Show so all you libs can’t cry right wing conspiracy.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqRghdhhwpQ
By The Oddball
March 13, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
I’m still waiting for that evidence, “The Truth.”
And by the way, no one who knows me thinks I’m a liberal. You’ve illustrated one of the more dreary aspects of the right-wing talk show mentality: the belief that there are only two viewpoints in the entire world, and that anyone who disagrees with you is a “liberal.”
By Truthman
March 13, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
I’m not white. I’m more a light reddish-olive with a few freckles!
When Barack Obama wins, will you move to more totalitarian country with the rest of the neo-conmen and women…say China or N. Korea or Iran…they love fanatics such as you!!
By ConservativeDem
March 13, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
GaLiberal…what is your stand on the issues? What I see is tranplants coming to Ga pretending to be Ga. republicans but are really democrates and independents incognito. I remember when democrats were in charge. It was not that great then. Hey I consider a liberal the same as baby raper. So I am glad you call yourselves liberals. I know who or what I am dealing with now.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
The Oddball,
Examples: Jimmy Carter going to Cuba to sweet talk Castro. Siding on Arafats side 90% of the time. Jews resigned in great numbers from the Carter Center a year or so ago. Remember that?
Obamas mentor was a self proclaimed communist. An office worker had a Che flag hanging in her office.
John Kerry: Our soldiers rape and torture Iraqis.
Jane Fonda: Do I really have to say anything?
Hillary Clinton: Saddam Hussien is a good dictator.
I can keep going if you’d like.
I love debate. It’s healthy. Let’s keep going.
Truthman, Why would I move from the country I love. I actually thought Alec Baldwin was moving when Bush won in 04. What happened? I won’t have to move, Obama will bring fascism here to the states. Actually, you need to do your homework. Iran and China silence anyone who speaks out against islam and communism. Sounds like you’d be better in China. Remember, liberalism is communism.
By Copyleft
March 13, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
Has “the truth” ever, even once, TOLD the truth? Because I haven’t seen it happen so far….
Of course, he would have to know what the truth IS, so that may be asking too much. Just like asking him to back up any of his absurd claims is asking too much.
How pathetic. You lose again, TheLies!
By IMrubberURglue
March 13, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Listen here boys and girls.
Your mommas are going to be quite upset when they find you playing on her computer. Now better quit all this foolish name calling and go back outside and play before you get in trouble.
By Truthman
March 13, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Excuse me, “truth,” but maybe you need to look up the definition of “Fascism.”
It’s when the government and business are in bed with each other to the detriment of ordinary people. Kinda like the last seven years.
You are an uniformed “ditto” head, and, therefore, I shall not waste any more of my considerable writing talents on one so implaccable and obsequious!
By The truth
March 13, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Copyleft, What did I lie about? I just gave facts about liberals. Can you handle that, communist man? Liberals are nothing more than communists and socialists. What’s the big deal? Just calling you guys and gals out for what you are. You should be comfortable with yourselves. Liberals hate America, spit on soldiers, bash Christians, love racism, love abortion and oppress minorities. What have I said that is a lie?
By The Oddball
March 13, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Sorry, “the truth.” None of that is factual. Those are only opinions. And talking to someone doesn’t mean you “love them.” I seem to recall that Nixon went to China to sweet talk Mao, and Reagan went to Iceland to sweet talk Gorbachev. Remember that?
By No_liberals
March 13, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
I’ll take a conservative that may have strayed from true conservative principles over a bleeding heart, socialist liberal ANY DAY OF THE WEEK! Liberals exhibit no rational thought and according to a recent study are clinically insane.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
The Oddball, Nixon was not conservative. I recall Reagan ending the cold war. Maybe you should actually go back and read the history books. Do you get all your info from PMSNBC or Huffpissed? Again, what did I lie about? I’m still pointing out that liberals hate America. Bill Clinton was great at going to other countries to bash us. Remember that? If he had dealt with the 5 American bombings during his presidency we would probably not be in this situation today. Libs seem to have smoked too much weed therefore frying their brain cells. Black Hawk Down, anyone?
By The truth
March 13, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
Fascism: A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
Truthman, Does this help? The true definition. You left out, oh, DICTATOR! Bush, the last time I checked, was elected by a free nation. I might add, that libs want to bring back the fairness doctrine to silence talk show host. Sounds like fascism to me. Sums liberals up pretty well. Welfare is also a fascist trait. Hello Democrats!
By The Oddball
March 13, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
The Truth: You’re not well, my friend.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
The Oddball, Because I told the truth about liberals? Is that why I’m not well? You still can not show me proof that liberals are not socialists? I’ve given you many examples of Hillary, Obama, Carter, Kerry and could give you others? I’m surprised you have not called me a nazi. Something libs love calling others who call them for what they are. By the way, your name sums up who you really are.
By Copyleft
March 13, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
IT’s all lies, TheLies… as you well know. (Unless you’re dumb enough to actually BELIEVE what you’re saying.)
“Liberals hate America.” Wrong. Liberals love America, which is why we’re courageous enough to stand oup to our government when it’s wrong—to try and improve it.
“Liberals spit on soldiers.” Another lie. Never happened. We have plenty of contempt for the policymakers who launch and maintain pointless wars, but only sympathy for the poor bast-ards who have carry out those orders.
“Liberals bash Christians.” Nope, another lie. I have never said one harsh word against people who love their enemies, help the poor, and feed the hungry. The fact that you, as a so-called “Christian,” don’t measure up to that standard is YOUR fault, not mine.
“Liberals love racism.” Another lie, as any political survey at a Klan rally will readily prove.
“Liberals love abortion.” Total liel We PROTECT a woman’s right to choose; that’s a very far cry from “loving abortion,” which makes about as much sense as “loving double-bypass surgery.” It’s necessary, not wonderful.
“Liberals oppress minorities.” Completely false, since it’s only liberals that have stood up for minority rights and opportunities while the conservatives have tried (and still try) to stifle their voices at every turn. Were you AWAKE during the Civil Rights era?
You’re nothing but seething hatred and resentment, TheLies. That’s what defines a modern far-right Republican these days—impotent, childish fury. Even after controlling the government for the past seven years (and proving themselves totally incompetent and corrupt in the process), they’re STILL angry that people dare to disagree with them. They call dissent “treason.”
But America has wised up to that tactic. We’re not listening to the talk-radio voices any more, and a better, more liberal America is coming. You’ll see some of it this November.
But don’t worry; we’ll still defend your right to spew your ignorant garbage. After all, it can only help the cause of REAL Americans.
By OneForTheRoad
March 13, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
This blogger using the label “The truth” sounds as though he has a bone to pick with someone that upset him at some time in the past. I wonder if “The truth” has blogged under different labels in the not-too-distant past.
By Copyleft
March 13, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
What the heck, I’ll go ahead and explode all of TheLies’ supposed “examples” of liberal communism too, while I’m at it. This is fun!
Jimmy Carter Presidents—smart ones, anyway—meet and talk with ALL world leaders, including those we’re opposed to. Only idiots like Bush respond with missiles as their first option. Carter “sided” with Arafat on proposals that would have resulted in a peaceful two-state solution… still the only viable option for that region.
Obama A childhood friend of the family was a communist and one campaign worker had a Guevara flag in her office. Gosh, a childhood friend of MY family was Hindu! And my college roommate had a Streisand poster! I guess that makes me a gay follower of Vishnu! Is that honestly the best you’ve got? Pathetic.
John Kerry “Our soldiers rape and torture Iraqis.” That was a true statement. How is pointing out the truth “communist”?
Jane Fonda “Do I really have to say anything?” Yes, you do. Because she opposed a war that was wrong, wasteful, and unnecessary. She was RIGHT to do so. And protesting an idiotic war does not mean you “agree” with the other side—at least, not if you’re smarter than a fifth grader.
Hillary Clinton “Saddam Hussien is a good dictator.” Nope; Saddam was a USEFUL dictator, the kind that America has propped up and supported countless times, under countless administrations, both Republican and Democratic. And what does Saddam have to do with communism, either?
Seems to me that you’re just lumping everything you don’t like or disagree with into one pile and labeling it “liberal-socialist-fascist-communist,” no matter how badly it doesn’t fit. This is typical of a one-note mind that’s incapable of processing things beyond black and white, “You’re with us or against us” terms.
In that sense, I suppose it’s not surprising you’re on the Bush side of things. Loyal morons always get a warm welcome there.
Better luck next time; maybe you should study up on debating tactics? Like “how to construct an actual ARGUMENT,” rather than just spew and rave incoherently?
By The truth
March 13, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Copyleft, Look at Hillary and Obama. What is the main issue? RACE! Liberals want minorities under the control of welfare. Liberals want the government to take care of all lifes needs. Hence Socialism.Don’t remember conservatives oppressing minorities. Actually, Republicans voted 84% to 60% in favor of the Civil Rights Act. I also remember Bull Conor and George Wallace, all democrats, using hoses on blacks in Montgomery. Liberals do hate America and want it to be more like Europe. I’ve never met a liberal who didn’t want either communism or socialism installed in to the American way of life. Like I’ve already said. Obama will be another Jimmy Carter and we hall 40 years of Conservative presidents in the White House.
OneForTheRoad, I have a bone to pick with liberals. Liberalism brings nothing but equal misery for everyone. Look at New Orleans. Total liberal bastion controlled by democrats. It took Katrina to get the governor out of office and a conservative took over. New Orleans is a total welfare society. Liberals have kept all those people poor. Their scapegoat was to call the president a racist so that they could cover up their idiocy.
By The Oddball
March 13, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
No, I said you’re not well because the hatred and rage you express sound like the product of mental illness, not reasoned discourse. If everyone expressed themself like you do, this country would end up like the Balkans.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
Copyleft, Jane Fonda got soldiers killed. Che killed innocent people. Much different poster than a stupid old actress. John Kerry, Hillary and Obama want socialism. Hello national health care. Code word for socialist medicine. You are as blind as Ray Charles. And no, that wasn’t a race comment. He just happened to be blind. Carter is now a known Anti-Semite. Pretty well known in the Jewish community. Maybe if you weren’t such a troglodyte you’d be able to see the truth behind liberalism. Maybe you should study up on history instead of getting all your info from Move On.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
The Oddball, Where is your medical practice? Since you are an MD. Balkans? You are really grasping for air now. You don’t have any evidence to show that liberals hate this country and therefore attack my mental health. Nice.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
The Oddball, Meant to say: You don’t have any evidence to show that liberals don’t hate this country. Again, can you give me a professional mental evaluation? Where did you get your medical training?
By therealist
March 13, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
The only thing more fiscally irresponsible than a conservative, is a liberal..
By On The Wall
March 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
EXAMPLE: Liberals are more than willing to give government additional powers of control to chase undefined and arbitrary goals of controlling global climate. Does that make any sense considering the nature of science is to never be settled, but those that will gain the most power are saying it is settled when it comes to the “global climate”. Crisis? Even if it is true, to call it a crisis is… what’s that term… oh yeah - FEAR MONGERING. Fact is, history has proven animals adapt to gradual changes in their environment and the affects of human induced climate change will be realized over decades and centuries. Another thing history has proven is governments always get more powerful at the cost of societal freedom. The history being played out before us is that liberals are again ignoring the lessons of history in their never ending quest for societal utopia through government controls. That quest is the beginning of fascism, socialism, communism.
Government is great, government is good, let us thank them for this food… thank you Mother America.
By lestry52
March 13, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
By The Oddball March 13, 2008 2:27 PM That is exactly what liberals do!!! To borrow a phrase—you are the drive by media.
By The truth I agree with everything you said. I am glad people like you can express yourself so clearly and put the liberals into chaos. It more entertaining to watch than SCRUBS!
By The truth
March 13, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
lestry52, Thank you. Liberals have always preached anti-american rhetoric while trying to convince everyone that they are patriotic. If we were living during the Revolutionary war, people like oddball and copyleft would have gone out of their way to kill Paul Revere. They’d have sabotaged George Washington and called it their patriotic duty. They talk about big money from Republicans yet it is the billionaire George Soros that funds most of their activity. Liberalism can not survive in a capitalist society. Look at Air America and other liberal shows. They bomb big time because all it is is name calling and trashing America.
By OneForTheRoad
March 13, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
“The truth”,
I understand that you don’t like liberals. However, I am a bit curious to know who you do like in Federal and State politics and why? For example, do you like McCain because you think he is a conservative or at least conservative enough or because you dislike Hillary and Obama more. Do you have a definition for your optimal politician? Would this person be more closely aligned with Ron Paul or Glenn Richardson or John McCain or Mike Huckabee…..?
By Bob
March 13, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Frankly, I could not care less what a leftist such as Bookman thinks about conservatives. That he doesn’t like us is good enough for me.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
OneForTheRoad, I am more than happy to tell you who I like in politics today. The new governor of Louisiana is probably my favorite. Bobby Jindal is his name. He was born here in the states and his parents were from India. I’m not a big fan of McCain although I like his military background. His temper is a bit annoying at times. Ron Paul is a very smart individual but his national security policy is a little scary. His domestic policy is great. Mike Huckabee is a nice enough person but we are not electing a minister as president. As a person I think Hillary is a dishonest mean person. Obama is a very nice man but he is the most liberal senator serving. I like Rick Santorum a lot even though he is not serving. Tom Delay was great until the dems put a political hit out on him. By the way, he was never charged with a crime. Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo are great guys but didn’t have the muster to win the nomination. Mitt Romney is a very smart man and I have no problem when people cross over to become conservative. No one is born conservative or liberal. He is a great business person and did a good job running Mass. That is a hard state to run considering it is the most liberal state in the union. Remember, politicians are there to serve the people and not themselves.
By FredMertz
March 13, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Y’all are missing the point. It’s not about Republicans and Democrats or Conservatives and Liberals. It’s about Politicians doing what is in THEIR best interest and getting rich. They sow just enough discord to keep the people arguing with each other and that gives them cover to rake us over the coals. Y’all can call each other names all day if you want. In the end you are just tools in the hands of professional politicians.
By OneForTheRoad
March 13, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
The truth,
Thanks for the reply. I can’t speak to Mr. Jindal’s qualifications since I know nothing of him. As far as McCain goes, I would give him a thumbs up over Hillary. Obama I put in the same boat with Jindal — I know what I hear but is that what I should believe. My favorite is Ron Paul but not for the stated reasons. I would pick him for President first because I think he is honest and second because of his conservative beliefs. I too have my doubts about his effectiveness as a Commander in Chief but I think he is smart enough to not get us blown up. My dislike of most politicians is primarily a result of my belief that they are mostly opportunistic, arrogant, lying, asses with no business in positions where they are required to consider what’s “best” for the people instead of what’s best for their supporters and themselves.
That about sums it up.
By The truth
March 13, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
OneForTheRoad, Bobby Jindal is a pure conservative who ran on a conservative platform. He beat out what’s her face. Can’t remember her name but she was the one who was crying on tv after she delayed her call for an evacuation. He won by a large margin. I totally agree with you on politicians in a general sense that they lie. I’m not a big W fan. I did vote for him only because Kerry was a complete idiot. W is not a conservative by any means. I can’t stand his spending habits. I do like Ron Paul a lot. He seems very honest and I like the fact that he is not a life long politician. Hillary is an opportunist who only wants power. This country faces great challenges and we need someone who will lead and not make decisions based on what some poll says. Most great leaders lead in times of great pressure. Churchill was a tremendous leader who was run out of office after WW2. Teddy Roosevelt was a warrior who actually rode with his troops in to battle. Something we lack in todays world.
By OneForTheRoad
March 13, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this
The truth,
If GW were to “ride” into battle, I’d come out of retirement and enlist myself.
By Scooter
March 13, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
FredMertz is right, bicker all we want but we are still being played by politicians. What is the main tool they use to play us? Well, they control our behavior through the tax code and our actions through legislation. While we can elect them to legislate, the tax code affects all law abiding citizens and allows for political favoritism. We have election cycles to give legislative power to the people, but the tax code represents power the people lost.
It is for that reason the FairTax deserves personal in-depth analysis from anyone who claims to love freedom and liberty. That includes conservatives and liberals because it totally untaxes the “poor”, is totally transparent and wouldn’t push our jobs offshore.
Incomes fluctuate and affect consumption, but both are keys to capitalism. So why do we allow government to get its revenue from the one that encourages American industriousness?
Think about it!
By Cons Are Getting Conned
March 13, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this
Georgia conservatives, Jay Bookman just handed you your rear ends. As much as you like to demagogue and hurl epitaphs at liberals, you have allowed your beloved Republicans to turn their backs on all things conservative and make a mockery of your ideology. Problem is, you’re too busy hating liberals to realize it. You’ve been had, cons, both at the state and federal levels.
By Peaches
March 13, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this
Jay Bookman measuring? Give me a break! This lilliputian has never measured up. Who cares what he thinks? He just repackages his DNC taking points and calls them editorial content.
By donald
March 13, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
There is no IQ low enough to measure these idiots!!
By jeff
March 13, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this
Conservatives have two goals:
1) Attain as much money and material possessions as possible
2) Force their personal religious beliefs onto everyone else via enforcable public policy
Every policy initiative conservatives have can be traced back to one or both of these end goals.
By jeff
March 14, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this
Today’s (not traditional)Conservatives have two primary goals:
1) Attain as much money and material possessions as is possible
2) Force their personal religious beliefs onto everyone, preferably by enforcable public policy.
All of their initiatives can be traced back to one of these two end goals.
By soundslikegaliberaltome
March 14, 2008 12:43 AM | Link to this
fas·cism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fash-iz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
By The truth
March 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Here is a great video of what Democrats really are. Hypocrites!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY2dOJi41SI&eurl=http://www.google.com/reader/view/
By MiltonMan
March 14, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Funny to see the GA DemoRats still in meltdown mode. Funny to see you clowns had control of the state for 130+ years & did nothing. Look what the DemoRATS are doing to Clayton County, look at what the racist mayor has done to Atlanta, etc. etc.
By AL
March 14, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Georgia conservatives are as conservative as Georgia Liberals are Liberal. You idiot!!!
By bubbatech02
March 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
a liberal is a socialist in sheep’s clothing. A socialist is a communist without a spine and half a brain.
By Freedom
March 14, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this
Bookman judging Conservatives? Give me a break. The Atlanta Urinal and Constipation is a joke. No wonder you lose readers on a daily basis. Between Bookman, Lukovich, and Tucker, this rag is nothing more than the writings and “cartoons” of Karl Marx.
By Warbler
March 16, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
Asking - or answering - the questionis racist