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Caucusing: A peculiar process

The Iowa caucuses are the loya jirga of American politics — interminable gatherings of civically active types determined to keep talking and voting until they reach consensus.

What an odd way to pick a presidential nominee! Join me tonight as I try to make sense of this peculiar process, where anything could happen.

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By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Thanks Cynthia,

That lengthy gathering and regrouping into the support group of another candidate when your choice is no longer viable only takes place on the Democrat side. The Republicans basically have a straw poll and go home.

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Hi everybody!

I’m a hardcore Conservative and I am deeply in love with the Republican Party and it seems to me that the people who have done us the most good in recent years have been Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

My question is, if I cast my vote for Hillary will she be a good little Republican too?

And if her answer is yes, how can I tell if she’s not lying, as usual?

By KA

January 3, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this

Iowans are actively involved in the one to one with the candidates and then come together in the caucus to discuss the candidates’ strengths and weaknesses. I don’t think this is odd, rather it is a wonderfully interactive and inclusive process. No power brokers running this show. The people of Iowa are gathering their own facts and impressions, getting their own answers from the candidates and running their own caucuses. I bet that someone will create an online caucus format that the rest of us interested Americans could particapte in.

By Fred

January 3, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

Dear Rw and Luckaduh,

I love reading and listening to the whack job far end fanatics on both sides of the political spectrum. You both spew the same nonsensical vitriol changing only the party and candidate names. your lies, baseless accusations, and vile mud slinging would be humorous if it were not so heart felt and just down right mean. It is you far end wacko’s that give us these poor candidate choices every year, a moderate (which MOST Americans are) has no chance getting past you weirdo’s in a primary. The good side is though that while your idiot candidates are so busy with their own mudslinging, lies, and attempts to backstab the other party in Washington, the end result is that in their efforts to screw each other, it leaves them little time to screw the rest of us. God forbid that either party should get a 2/3rds majority of the house and Senate AND a Presidency……….

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

{{{{By Fred January 3, 2008 7:00 PM Dear Rw and Luckaduh, I love reading and listening to the whack job far end fanatics on both sides of the political spectrum.}}}}

Dearest Fred:

What did RW say that was so objectionable, pray tell?

Perhaps you should loosen your bonnet just a bit, it seems as though you are wound up awfully tight.

Why don’t you kick back, have a drink and let’s just see if the best man, er, candidate wins, eh?

By getalife

January 3, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

Well, the wingnuts did not learn from the w disaster and will vote for another Governor with no foreign policy experience, Gomer Pyle.

Edwards has been in Iowa the longest and he should win.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this

Fred,

And a fine good evening to you too sir!

/I crossed over and got rid of Cynthia McKinney and this is the thanks I get?

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

getalife,

After campaigning in Iowa for six years Edwards should be on a first name basis with the entire state, except he really hates the actual people in that other America.

If he doesn’t win and win big he should go home and leave us alone.

By ray

January 3, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

shame us georgians are just gonna vote for whoever rush, o’reilly, and hannity tell us to. shame we haven’t got the brains to discern the best candidate for ourselves. oh well, like the man said - the people of a democracy get the government they deserve.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

RW,

You mean corporate America?

Funny how the MSM call him angry and if he loses Iowa it is over.

Corporate media are scared of Edwards.

By @@

January 3, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

This whole process sounds like the dems waste time talking each other to death while the Republicans just get down to business.

Kinda reminds me of the dems in Congress—all talk, no action.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Will tonight produce a moment like Iowa 2004?

By getalife

January 3, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

Clinton and Obama have the greater initial support.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

Ron Paul is beating McOld.

Bwa.

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

My goodness, I sure hope we don’t hear Hillary squealing after Obama runs her over, that would be absolutely gross.

Let it be done in silence, please.

By TW

January 3, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Compliments to the Republican candidates for not wearing bags on their heads.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

Edwards is winning

By ron

January 3, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Like it or not,this is the process by which America picks its presidential nomminees.It is probably as fair,honest, and above board as anything anyone can dream up.Out of this process we get Presidents that are great, according to their party,horrible,according to the opposing party,and somewhere in between,according to history.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

Geez getalife,

Keep your pants on. That result you just linked is from 8 caucus goers in Black Hawk County.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

C-Span has a Dem caucus.

C-Span2 has the loser caucus.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

RW,

That site refreshes every 30 seconds.

It is close.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

What a great night to be an American!

I saw that in what is being called a “key” precinct 2004 82 showed up, this year 267 are caucasing.

I have not been able to find any GOP turnout comparison numbers…..anybody see anything?

Good evening, RW and Duh, I hope we can follow the results together tonight with respect and good humor.

I really disagree with just about every thing each of you stand for, but I will fight always for your right to be wrong!

Gotta love America. Pass the shrimp dip!

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

getalife,

I know it does, but the big precincts aren’t anywhere close to finished.

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

Obama has got this bad boy wrapped up.

No one is going to switch to Shrillary.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Hello Mrs. G.

It is a three way tie so far.

RW,

The gop site is down and the cauces on C-Span2 started with begging for donations then church service.

Boring, while the Dems look like they are having fun.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this

I admit up front, lap tops are new to me. I like a big honking rattly hard drive.

Can I hear a big “Ba-bye Rudy”?

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this

Sure we can Mrs. G

/you don’t know that surly Fred character do you? I don’t think he likes us.

~~~~~~~~

What’s up with Tim Russert? He just said one Democrat precinct was going to be shut down for being overcrowded, but the Republicans said they were done and gave up there space. He did this to leave the impression there was very little Republican turnout, but didn’t mention that the good guys vote and leave. Very poor journalism, don’t you think Ms. Tucker?

By getalife

January 3, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

CNN is reporting Gomer Pyle wins .

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Duh,

Senator Clinton is not my first choice and I suspect not even in you top ten.

Could Obama tempt you over from the Dark Side?

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

Huckabee 33%, Romney 24%, PRESIDENT THOMPSON 17%!!!!, McCain Feingold 11%.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

Obama takes the lead with the young vote.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

Rudy isn’t even contesting Iowa. This truly is a whole new world this year with all the states jammed up close and all the early voting laws. They may already be voting in Florida so you don’t have that Iowa, New Hampshire domino effect anymore.

Luckoduh,

From the looks of the numbers coming in, the few sheep that aren’t in with the top three could be moved into place by one good cutting horse rider.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

RW,

I have known a surly Fred but I don’t think it’s the same fellow. At least, I hope not.

I do however understand the whole surly thing. I suspect you do as well. When things don’t work out as we would like them to we get surly.

Surly to be, surly to rise. It’s human nature.

It’s been called for Huckabee. No surprise. Paul’s at 10%. If Grandpa Albert was alive he’d be doing the Ron Paul dance!

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks: Not a chance.

I have two motivating factors this election season, one is to get a true Conservative elected to the White House and Fred is on track to do just that, and two is to begone with the Clintoons forever.

Thank You Obama!

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

getalife,

Since the Republican vote is a non-binding straw poll (think non-binding resolution) I would think you would appreciate their process more.

After all the Pelosi/Reid Congress is the all time champion of non-binding resolutions.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

RW,

While laptops are a new animal for me…political reality is not.

Guiliani didn’t “contest” Iowa because he could not.

We both know smart folks pick their battles. Even smarter folks can read the writing on the wall (which is in really big read letters saying “Ba-bye Rudy”).

The only guy you got that gives me pause is John McCain. He’s too old. He’s too much of a hawk. BUT he is the GOP next in line.

I have a grudging respect for Senator McCain.

I still have not seen any hard GOP turnout numbers…..anybody?

It really is great to be an American.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

Luckoduh,

That was low calling Mrs. G, Goldielocks. Mrs. G has the same wrong political leanings but she gets to them honestly. Goldielocks is just an airhead.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

Mrs G,

If you see writing in big red letters on your wall get out of there. Didn’t you see The Shining?

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

Goldilocks: As hard as they get.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Duh,

Dear Heart, while I am flattered that you think Goldie and I one in the same - you are as wrong about that as you are about most things.

I am unable to find a true conservative among the GOP candidates.

You think otherwise.

By getalife

January 3, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Good guys:

1,347 of 1,781 districts reporting

Obama 35.78 Edwards 30.69 Clinton 30.52 Richardson 1.89 Biden 0.98 Uncommitted 0.10 Dodd 0.03

Bad guys:

730 of 1,781 districts reporting

Huckabee 31 Romney 23 Thomspon 13 McCain 12 Giuliani 11 Paul 10

By Luckoduh

January 3, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

The dems are giving their 2nd votes to Obama.

The Breck Girl needs to cinch up the old corset and dispose of this POS.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Oh RW!

When you want to be you still are a charming SOB.

Can you make a good martini?

Extra Dirty?

Nonetheless: I (smart crazy old broad that I am) emphatically disagree with your “wrong poltical leanings” statement.

There is nothing but RIGHT about being a progressive populist semi liberal!

I promise we’ll be kind to you in the warm afterglow of the 2008 election!

Cigarette?

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

Mrs G,

Extra dirty works for me.

Frankly if you’re going to be any better to those of us on the right side of history than you have been after taking Congress in 2006, bring it on. The Pelosi/Reid Congress has given Republicans everything they want.

Tucker has a new blog post up by the way.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

I both read and saw The Shining.

Did you see The Witches of Eastwick?

The American President?

Man of the Year?

Mr. Smith goes to Washington?

1776? (I loved Blythe Danner singing “He plays the violin”)

Sunrise at Campobello?

Film trivia another night perhaps.

I must gratefully acknowledge your understanding of my new keyboard spelling. (Sister Mary Frances de Sales have mercy on me!)

They are saying Obama wins….I see it as a three way tie.

Ribeye - marinated and carefully grilled.

Veal - scalopini sliced, with fresh lemon, parsley, scallions and heavy cream - gently sauteed

Chicken - organic, never frozen, free range, soaked in buttermilk, seasoned and triple breaded then fried golden with our family “give up all our national secrets” mashed potatoes

or

lean cuisine

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

RW

Bring it on? A bit crass for me. Works better for a 16 year old cheerleader than a consort battleship don’t you think?

OH! Henry Higgins!

The Reid Pelosi congress has given the GOP more than they deserve to be sure, but it is the cross we bear for truly being “big tent”.

alas and alack.

Tanquery?

By Jesus

January 3, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Hucklebee is God no that was Gw or no he just talked to God Huck raps himself in Christianity and all u Christian lemmings follow we preach to Muslims democracy not theocracy what good ole usa hipocracy

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Tanquery…pass the unopened vermouth bottle over the glass…and then slosh in the olive juice.

The scary thing is Hillary finished third like Howard. I might need a second drink for that speech!

/Bring it on was shorthand! Geez the blog is slow enough without you forcing artful phrasing.

By RW-(the original)

January 3, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

About 250 years ago people used smoke signals to communicate.

Amazingly that was a faster method than an AJC blog in 2008.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

So does a laptop battery last 20 minutes or what?

Ah! The struggle to be part of the technorati!

I won’t force artful phrasing. Force is so counterproductive.

No, RW, remove the cap. Slosh in some vermouth and the olive juice. Add 2 maybe three stuffed jumbo manzanillas.

I saw Hillary - quite gracious.

Where’s Mrs. Huckabee?

Y’all have a good night.

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

So does a laptop battery last 20 minutes or what?

Ah! The struggle to be part of the technorati!

I won’t force artful phrasing. Force is so counterproductive.

No, RW, remove the cap. Slosh in some vermouth and the olive juice. Add 2 maybe three stuffed jumbo manzanillas.

I saw Hillary - quite gracious.

Where’s Mrs. Huckabee?

Y’all have a good night.

By @@

January 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Bill’s face was more red than usual during Hillary’s speech. I think he was mad.

How dare those Iowans thwart his third term.

How dare they…

By Christophobe the Great

January 3, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Christians are trying there best to destroy America GW is the starting pitcher and here comes Pastor Huckleberry to close it out I guess I better convert before the American crusades start and I wind up dead or in a camp for non-believers please think before we put in another Christian who thinks he talks to God

By Mrs. Godzilla

January 3, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

Obama not my first choice - but a good man to be sure!

The world will have to look at America a bit differently tomorrow because they see color does not matter in the USA.

God Bless us everyone!

middle America A

 

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