Opinion Talk

By RWH

April 3, 2006 08:03 AM | Link to this

Our borders are compromised at the hands of fer or many. We all realized that people seek better-way-of-life for themselves and their families. Some boarders offers take money; some knowing and willinglly look the other way; some feel sorry for people and it goes on! Our immiragration and Naturalzation Laws must work; they are the heartbeat for those seeking a better way of life and to become citizens of these United States of America. One of the most powerful country in the world can’t solve our Borders Issues and Enforce our Immigration and Naturalzation Laws; there is something wrong with that picture and it appear that many find our weakness to have this problem linger….and continue with years on years of people sneaking in and out at will. When we know a problem remain unsolved; it would warrant action in the beginning and thusforth. Economic convenience must not be a reason or excuse why people brake laws; for that reason if they use it; it should be the legal reason for them to undergo the process to enter the US instead of coming illegal. When federal laws are broken; the federal law must issue federal warrants for arests.

By Syed

April 3, 2006 08:49 AM | Link to this

RWH I am an asian, not spanish, so I guess I can speak impartially. Border problem is more like an immigrations problem; YES, there are problems in Border. As far as terrorism goes, I don’t think you have to worry about illegals. All the terrorosts of 911 entered here legally. Yes, some mexican criminals come here through border. Also, all those people that cry about legal/illegal issue; for those workers, it’s very very difficult and inefficient to come through the legal process due to load of paperworks and the time it takes.

By concerned

April 3, 2006 09:22 AM | Link to this

Border Security is compromised for economic benefits. But the ringer is the fact that it is not the aliens who are crossing the border that is compromising it. Our government, the same party that is in office, has opened the border numerous times to allow our neighbors to come over here and work. The unwritten rule was you need to return across the border at nightfall. Our government has told them that if you fight in this Iraq war, we will give you your citizenship papers. It appears that as long as crossing the border benefits our government, then it is ok. Once they start making a significant amount of money and have real buying power then they must go. It is the old parable, once the lower class starts learning how to make the rules work for themselves, then it is time to change the rules of the game.

By Henry Hall

April 3, 2006 09:56 AM | Link to this

Absolutely! God, we had better get a handle on this thing. I am all for immigration, but letting folks come here en masse illegally is stupid. It shows how cowed this country has become to politcal correctness. The United States has always had a voracious appetite for cheap labor and it ends up costing us in the end.

By dg

April 3, 2006 10:36 AM | Link to this

Is border security compromised by economic convenience or economic necessity? Some 3 years ago I read an article published by the federal government that contained a recap of labor and employment statistics gathered during the economic expansion of the late 1990’s. During that time of record employment there were more jobs created than jobs filled. The deficit number of laborers needed for the jobs created minus jobs filled was roughly 10 million. By the government’s own admission that number was roughly equal to the estimated number of illegal workers in the US at that time.

We need to reform immigration policy in order to keep our economy expanding as we are now competing in a fast-growing, global economy.

By Van

April 3, 2006 10:47 AM | Link to this

It all comes down to what is wrong and what is right.

In this case, it is easy to determine. If you sneak in, it is wrong. If you bribe someone, it is wrong. No matter what the rationalization or justification it is still wrong.

By dg

April 3, 2006 10:57 AM | Link to this

Yes, Van. Absolutely it is wrong to sneak and bribe your way in. Let’s take the incentive for doing so out of the system without simultaneoulsy handing bin Laden a bonus by sending our economy into a tailspin.

By Donna

April 3, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this

Let’s remember something, border security also includes the Canadian border and our East and West coastlines. I remember sometime in the 1990’s when a ship carrying ILLEGAL Chinese immigrants ran ashore. Also, Irish illegals gain entry by flying into this country on tourist visas and never leaving. This also happens with other nationalities gaining entry through work visas and then never leaving once they expire.

They are all ILLEGAL immigrants. If we want tighter border security, we need to secure our seaports, airports, and land borders.

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 11:21 AM | Link to this

“Also, all those people that cry about legal/illegal issue; for those workers, it’s very very difficult and inefficient to come through the legal process due to load of paperworks and the time it takes.”

Syed - that was very very silly. Who cares about how difficult, time consuming etc it is for illegals. The whole point is about having a secure border where (ideally) no one illegal gets through. Obviously overstayers are also a huge problem and equally obvious with such a huge border and huge population there will always sadly be some element of illegals here. All the immigration laws should be enforced, regardless of the economic impact. Picking and choosing immigration laws that should be enforced smacks of a self interested paternalistic dictatorship. The congressional demoncrats are playing a very cynical game with the future of this country. Around 30% of the US prison population is illegals - including local/city jails. Black and especially latino gangs seemingly are the most violent (organised) criminals in the US, now that the “traditional” mafia and labour unions are on the decline. Not forgetting the unending horrendously violent latino drug crime. I say kick out all illegal immigrants, this sensible approach is a marvellous job creation scheme and would free up housing, schools, hospitals, welfare etc from systematic abuse and prevent a great deal of violent (drug) crime. Only genuine persecuted assylum seekers, not economic migrants should be allowed into the US, along with legally processed workers. Legalising the 15 million or so illegals here (the govt are hiding the true numbers) means they can bring in their huge poorly educated families over time - at least doubling the numbers.

By ATLien4Life!

April 3, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Concerned, I’m understand completely where you’re coming from. I’m of Latin decent, and my family are all citizens because my grandfather served in the Army years ago. However, I see a lot of hypocrisy with both the government, and many of the bloggers. They are correct legally in much of what they say, but how do you make the distinction? So, you mean to tell me that a CUBAN, so long as they make it to U.S. soil, can seek political asylum, and thousands of Canadians can just waltz over, but little ol’ Mexicans and Central Americans, let’s just ship them back en masse?

I’ll say as I’ve said before on these blogs, the problem is more one of perception than reality. They are breaking the law, but the LAW is what is flawed. Anyone here with any knowledge of history has to understand that laws are extremely fluid, and don’t always corrolate to sheer right and wrong. Our country has a long history of enacting laws that seemed like a good idea at the time(Prohibition, anyone?), but then, upon seeing that 1) they were too costly to enforce, and 2) no one followed them anyway, changed them back.

Why isn’t anyone seriously discussing what to do to make it more practical for these people, families, that are already here, to become legalized residents? Wouldn’t that solve the problem? The vast majority are working contributors to our economy, so let’s allow them to take that next step. Only after that’s done should we ship out those who simply do not wish to follow the system.

By Earl

April 3, 2006 11:35 AM | Link to this

This is an issue that really highlights the way in which BOTH political parties try to ‘hide the ball’ for their own benefit. Americans obviously don’t understand the issues when they want to ‘build a wall along the border’ (10’s of billions of dollars down another rat hole), or ‘make them all felons’(create many more problems than it solves), or ‘ship them all home’(let’s see, if we ship home- not that Mexico or some other country is really their home now- 1000 a day we can get rid of all of them in just a short 30 years). We need better controls on these immigrants- we need to know who they are and what they are doing- which means that we document them and we hold employeers accountable and the only way to do this is to get a national identity card for EVERYONE-man, women and child- one person, one number, we check EVERYBODY when we get jobs, when we get government benefits, when we buy a house, when we get any kind of license…drivers, business…when we register children or adults for school, when we wire money, when we open a bank account, when we get cable TV, when we get a credit card, etc, etc.. And, if you are an illegal, we aren’t going to kick you out if you self document yourself…but, if you don’t, out you go.

By ATLien4Life!

April 3, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

Earl, You’re right, but the point is that right now there is no system in place for them to do that. It’s too dangerous for them to come forward now, unless an amnesty period opens to allow them to document themselves, and do it in a timely fashion. I’ve personally worked with people trying to go through the process, and it’s nearly impossible to get anything done.

By dg

April 3, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

ATLien4Life, forunately there is some serious discussion going on in the Senate now in the form of the bipartisan, McCain-Kennedy bill that proposes a sane solution to the problem at hand. I can only hope that as this discussion heats up that more people will get behind their elected officials in support this legislation.

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 12:03 PM | Link to this

The “Cuban Question” essentially revolves around escaping a tyrannical commie dictatorship, which effectively makes (most) Cubans who come here assylum seekers. Mexican types are clearly not in that situation. I absolutely agree about shipping them back enmasse - they have NO right to come here - without a permanent settlement visa or an H1-B type visa - tourist/student/religious etc visas dont confer that right. So much for your race baiting “distinction”.

Funny how hispanic types ALMOST ALWAYS are smug apologists for their illegal compadres and demand, albeit with varying degrees of shrillness the “right” to be rewarded (ultimately) with citizenship for law breaking. Illegal immigrants should automatically be made (non violent) felons and deported.

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 12:11 PM | Link to this

“… McCain-Kennedy bill that proposes a sane solution to the problem at hand”.

You’re obviously having a laugh mate. This is NOT a “sane solution”, this is blatant pandering and rewarding illegal behaviour. A typical liberal ploy to boost their vote with no regard to the future of a country that is already appallingly overcrowded in virtually every medium sized/big city. What about the 30 million or so mostly poorly educated family members that will be allowed in after citizenship is grantedto the 15 million or so illegals already here - plus ALL THOSE MILLIONS WHO SWARM IN HOPING TO BE LEGALIZED AFTER THIS VILE BILL IS ENACTED? Taxpayers will be further hammered for all their entitlements.

By ATLien4Life!

April 3, 2006 12:35 PM | Link to this

time for the truth, I thought I could hold back my tongue and have this blog with a level of class and dignity, but that’s obviously not going to happen with uneducated hateful bigots such as yourself. When’s your next Aryan Nation meeting?

Before you open your rotted mouth to call me a “Hispanic Type”(My father is African-American, which you probably hate just as much), go back and read what I said. I said the law should be enacted as an option for those who are here and want to be a part of the system, and then ship out those who chose not to take advantage of an opportunity. Believe me, there are those who just prefer to operate underground, and this way we could weed them out. What pea-brains like yourself fail to realize because you’re so busy hating is the struggle that those have who try to do things the right way. The system is simply not designed to help those people, only make it harder. Many legally filed papers over 5 years ago, before entering the country, and have heard nothing about taking the next step. I would much rather see this country rid of bigots like you than a hard working lower class that is willing to do jobs that you (think you are) too good for!

By ATLien4Life!

April 3, 2006 12:37 PM | Link to this

time for the truth, I thought I could hold back my tongue and have this blog with a level of class and dignity, but that’s obviously not going to happen with uneducated hateful bigots such as yourself. When’s your next Aryan Nation meeting?

Before you open your rotted mouth to call me a “Hispanic Type”(My father is African-American, which you probably hate just as much), go back and read what I said. I said the law should be enacted as an option for those who are here and want to be a part of the system, and then ship out those who chose not to take advantage of an opportunity. Believe me, there are those who just prefer to operate underground, and this way we could weed them out. What pea-brains like yourself fail to realize because you’re so busy hating is the struggle that those have who try to do things the right way. The system is simply not designed to help those people, only make it harder. Many legally filed papers over 5 years ago, before entering the country, and have heard nothing about taking the next step. I would much rather see this country rid of bigots like you than a hard working lower class that is willing to do jobs that you (think you are) too good for!

By dg

April 3, 2006 12:47 PM | Link to this

time for truth, please watch your tone. You are becoming a bit shrill through the use of your caps lock key.

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 01:15 PM | Link to this

as ever you race baiting liberal lefties resort to emotional, unhinged, vituperative personal abuse and UTTERLY IGNORE the facts as presented. Your rather plebian use of English evinces a decided intellectually dishonest obtusity.

You stated implicitly that Cubans were effectively benefiting from a double standard re: latinos. And you ignored the undeniable facts/logic I presented.

Thanks for telling me whom I hate. (Mostly its the French :) Its absolutely NOTHING to do with “struggling to do things the right way”. Every country has its immigration requirements and poorly educated mexican types invariably do NOT fall into that category. Specific job skills and/or a university education (or equivalent) or an investment visa are the immigration yellow brick road into the US - or a genuine marriage to a US citizen. There is no “hatred” in stating these facts.

I utterly reject the notion of yet more pandering immigration law to reward systematic, cynical law breaking. That is my right - your hilarious and moronic use of the “bigot” word” simply shows how far from accepting the real world. It is extremely insulting and infuriating for genuine LEGAL immigrants who have been through the INS grinder to see latino apologists smugly advocate that “those who are here and want to be part of the system” should be allowed to. The law is the law and should be rigorously enforced. Your earlier stupid point about the prohibition laws was equally asinine and irrelevant.

Funny how you also ignore the facts about the ever increasing latino crime wave, drug crime etc. But hey thanks for the ultra emotional hissy fit. very much appreciated!!

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 01:16 PM | Link to this

as ever you race baiting liberal lefties resort to emotional, unhinged, vituperative personal abuse and UTTERLY IGNORE the facts as presented. Your rather plebian use of English evinces a decided intellectually dishonest obtusity.

You stated implicitly that Cubans were effectively benefiting from a double standard re: latinos. And you ignored the undeniable facts/logic I presented.

Thanks for telling me whom I hate. (Mostly its the French :) Its absolutely NOTHING to do with “struggling to do things the right way”. Every country has its immigration requirements and poorly educated mexican types invariably do NOT fall into that category. Specific job skills and/or a university education (or equivalent) or an investment visa are the immigration yellow brick road into the US - or a genuine marriage to a US citizen. There is no “hatred” in stating these facts.

I utterly reject the notion of yet more pandering immigration law to reward systematic, cynical law breaking. That is my right - your hilarious and moronic use of the “bigot” word” simply shows how far from accepting the real world. It is extremely insulting and infuriating for genuine LEGAL immigrants who have been through the INS grinder to see latino apologists smugly advocate that “those who are here and want to be part of the system” should be allowed to. The law is the law and should be rigorously enforced. Your earlier stupid point about the prohibition laws was equally asinine and irrelevant.

Funny how you also ignore the facts about the ever increasing latino crime wave, drug crime etc. But hey thanks for the ultra emotional hissy fit. very much appreciated!!

By dg

April 3, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Time for the truth, we are not ignoring what you think are factual statements. We recognize that they are your opinions and I don’t feel that they are all that important.

By ATLien4Life!

April 3, 2006 02:24 PM | Link to this

I rest my case….

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 02:51 PM | Link to this

they are not just “opinions” - what I have posted is fact and perfectly fair comment. The issue of over 30 million or so mainly poorly educated illegals and their immediate families becoming legal is FACT!! The latino crime wave is FACT … huge latino prison numbers, drug gangs, gang violence, increasing latino violence around the nation. All the billions in entitlements - schools etc. The illegals lack of car insurance and health insurance and the huge cost of that. The displacement of Americans in jobs because some corrupt American employ illegals and drive down wages for (often) a shoddier job). Then there’s the cultural/linguistic issue. Funny how folks who illegally live here and want to be legal here mostly wave a mexican (or other non-US) flag.

I can see how intellectually dishonest liberals just utterly ignore this or wont debate it … because getting those extra illegal minority votes is the only way you might get political power back!!

Funny how liberals are unable to debate such awkward points. I note all that without any hint of irony :)

as for alien4life’s running from factual (as opposed to his empty emotive) debate - too funny, too funny!!

PS any comment on the naked hypocrisy of the mexican govt’s attitude to illegals - they wont tolerate them in the non corrupt paradise that is mexico - and vigorously deport them - yet they systematically encourage mexican illegals to swamp the USA. Fox wont even call them illegals!!

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 02:53 PM | Link to this

they are not just “opinions” - what I have posted is fact and perfectly fair comment. The issue of over 30 million or so mainly poorly educated illegals and their immediate families becoming legal is FACT!! The latino crime wave is FACT … huge latino prison numbers, drug gangs, gang violence, increasing latino violence around the nation. All the billions in entitlements - schools etc. The illegals lack of car insurance and health insurance and the huge cost of that. The displacement of Americans in jobs because some corrupt American employ illegals and drive down wages for (often) a shoddier job). Then there’s the cultural/linguistic issue. Funny how folks who illegally live here and want to be legal here mostly wave a mexican (or other non-US) flag.

I can see how intellectually dishonest liberals just utterly ignore this or wont debate it … because getting those extra illegal minority votes is the only way you might get political power back!!

Funny how liberals are unable to debate such awkward points. I note all that without any hint of irony :)

as for alien4life’s running from factual (as opposed to his empty emotive) debate - too funny, too funny!!

PS any comment on the naked hypocrisy of the mexican govt’s attitude to illegals - they wont tolerate them in the non corrupt paradise that is mexico - and vigorously deport them - yet they systematically encourage mexican illegals to swamp the USA. Fox wont even call them illegals!!

By dg

April 3, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

time for the truth, is there something wrong with you or your computer? You consistently send all of your opinions twice.

By Van

April 3, 2006 03:21 PM | Link to this

From a UPI article dated 4/2 -

Mexico has caught and sent home some 240,000 illegal immigrants in the past year, The Washington Times reported Sunday.

From the Denver Post No papers, No problem.

We are sending very mix signal. We want our unguarded borders sealed and the workers to come in legally - just like Mexico, but then Utah says, no papers, no problems. Need a license? fine, want instate tuition no problem.

Sorry, I thought immigration was a federal jurisdiction and not up to the states.

By Syed

April 3, 2006 03:38 PM | Link to this

ATLien4Life! Very well said. I think AJC should have different ‘Level’ of blogs based on Level of EDUCATION. That way, we don’t have to see people like “Time for the Truth” in the same room we are in.

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this

tee hee … the pathetic liberal name calling continues … too funny!!

Some CANNOT/WILL NOT debate the salient points, and unless folks agree with them the liberal illegal apologists sneer and resort to childish petulance impugning an opponent’s “education”.

Harsh facts are always something liberals choke on!! Funny how no one can refute even one major point I’ve made. Some 30 million extra illegals with their families would change this country for ever. That is the legal reality, US immigration law allows citizens to petition for their immediate family on a fairly fast track. The accepted rule of (INS) thumb is an average of 3 family members per immigrant … some more -some less - do the maths!!

This is NOT something that should be done for vote grabbing reasons and the fact that no one has the guts in public life to actually enforce long standing (for decades) perfectly reasonable laws that MEXICO gleefully enforces all day long with their illegals!!

But of course its only nasty racist Americans who hold people to account and insist on laws being enforced.

Moral relativism is sickening enough in the liberal media but in this instance it will be catastrophic - if it happens!!

By Van

April 3, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

time for the truth,

I agree, the lefties want to grants US rights to people that are here illegally. They want to grant them amnesty and reward them for their illegal acts with citizenship.

Go figure.

By dg

April 3, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this

okay, time for the truth. your opinion is that we if we offer a legalization process to illegals will have 30 million extra illegals, that’s double what you stated earlier today BTW, and their families changing the country forever. In the late 1990s it was the opinion that modern day computing would come to a dead stop on 1/1/2000. We studied the situation, plenty of consultants made lots of money, and we all received better, faster computers. Gosh, I can’t wait to see what changes are in store for us next.

By time for the truth

April 3, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

if you actually read what I wrote earlier I stated it was about 15 million illegals - the 30 million figure is simply adding one (legalised) family member to that. With even a small economic downturn those 30 million - most of whom are poorly educated (most ordinary mexicans leave school at 14) a good many would start sucking on the welfare/federal teat even faster than they do now.

Legal immigrants are NOT allowed to have one cent of govt assistanmce - if they do and apply for citizenship its denied!! You actually, as a legal immigrant, sign on pain of perjury you haven’t done this. Legal immigrants spend many thousands getting legalised with attorney fees, INS fees, medical fees, FBI finger print fees etc. mexicans freeload!!

As just one example in Walmart and other shops illegal mexicans et al are spending huge sums in food stamps across the USA week in week out.

My objection is NOT (solely) based on current free welfare/education etc etc etc for illegals - despite the blatant iniquities of this. Your choice of point to debate was lame - but not as lame as the Y2000K example. Actually read all the substantive factual points I made above.

the liberal double standards re: illegals are appalling … the effect on the USA of 30 millions illegals in already over run areas will destroy school systems, bankrupt hospitals etc (read about the US hopsitals on the border and the daily abuse by mexicans of US healthcare. The US owes mexico nothing, beyond legal trade. its a corrupt violent country with little to offer its own people - that’s why they swarm over here in their millions.

I’m off for a bean burrito now (just kidding of course)

By Curious

April 3, 2006 05:18 PM | Link to this

ATL, I’ve been following your comments with interest. You seem to have a great deal of sense. As someone who seems to have more contact with the immigrant community than I do, maybe you can help me understand the reality more than the perception that is coming across in the media.

How many illegal immigrants (not those immigrants who are here legally) actually want to become citizens here and truly stay? That’s the sticking point for me.

It seems like there is a vast illegal immigrant population that has no desire to learn English, become citizens and actually contribute to the community. They’re here for one thing: to make money to send back to their home country and ultimately go back to that country. In the meantime, they expect to be employed, housed, have their children taught in U.S. schools and their healthcare provided.

This is the population I have problems with, especially in terms of schools. Our public school classrooms are strained to the breaking point as illegals drop their kids off, children who know no English. The teachers, instead of teaching, must take valuable class time to make sure the non-English speakers understand what’s going on. It’s not the kids’ fault and I don’t hold it against them. It’s their parents who created the situation, not them.

For the illegal immigrants who seek to attain legal status here, who are trying to learn English, who are contributing through tax dollars and community involvement, I am all in favor in working out a less convoluted way to attain citizenship. It’s the voices of this population that I want to hear. Not those who demand their “rights” when they’re here illegally, don’t want to be legal, and have no intention of even learning the language or staying.

By Syed

April 4, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Time for the Truth Educations is a parameter of Civilization. There is no point discussing the “Major Points” of a bigot. I am calling you Bigot not because you disagree, but the way you disagree. Civilized people agree and disagree ina civilized manner which might be unknown to you. FYI- INS doesn’t exists anymore, it’s USCIS now. US Custom and Immigration Services.

By chidog

April 5, 2006 11:33 AM | Link to this

Thanks Syed. Time for the Truth just barks out liberal, liberal liberal 100 times in every post and most people liberal or conservative get tired of hearing that!

By J&J Ranch

April 6, 2006 11:41 AM | Link to this

It looks like the AJC needs to have an open forum for the people who want to spend the whole time bashing each other.

Also the AJC seems to enjoy debating the same subjects over and over and over….

Hey AJC, why don’t we change the subject for a while?

It is obvious that most legal citizens are most dis-pleased with illegal immigrants. We have been over this many times and the subject is causing more heated debates than before. It is obvious that we are all frustrated over the illegals. We are not against immigrants, just illegal immigrants.

Enough is enough.

By Van

April 6, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

J&J Ranch

Make that Citizens and those legal immigrants that went through the pain and expense of doing it the right way.

If a group gets a free ride, they will not respect the toil it took to attain their goal.

The money spent on Coyotes would have gone a long way toward getting proper work papers.

By Mia

April 8, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this

I’m going to have to agree with Curious. The hispanics who fail to assimilate put themselves and their families at risk. How? Because they’re here illegally, they don’t have bank accounts and carry cash. Let’s not forget how they were being beaten, robbed and murdered months ago.

They become victims of businesses which will scam them because of their financial desperation, ie “Title Loans”.

They are hoodwinked into real estate deals which leave them empty-handed because they didn’t understand contractual agreement.

If you want to show compassion, require that they assimilate if for no other reason than to protect them.

By carla

April 8, 2006 01:46 PM | Link to this

to syed: uh hello isnt it worth your precious “time” to become legal instead of having to worry about being deported the entire time you are here in the country. if you enter another country you shouldn’t you have to fill out some paperwork. duh

By carla

April 8, 2006 01:56 PM | Link to this

ATLien4Life! you are calling some people in here bigots. when you are one yourself. hating on white people. that is a hipocrite. I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD GIVE ILLEGALS THE OPPORTUNITY BECOME LEGAL THE RIGHT WAY. WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE FROM THE BEGINNING BUT WHATEVER. IF YOU ARE ILLEGAL & YOU GET A FELONY IN THIS COUNTRY YOU SHOULD BE DEPORTED AFTER TIME SERVED NO MATTER WHAT. EVERYONE IS TAKING THIS NEW LAW WAY OUT OF HAND. ILLEGALS IMMIGRANTS MEANS YOU ARE BREAKING OUR GOVERNMENTS LAWS. WOULDNT YOUR HOME COUNTRY DO SOMETHING ABOUT US BREAKING YOUR LAWS. WELL THEN. WHY SHOULD ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS GET ALL THE RIGHTS & BENEFITS WHEN THEY ARE DECEIVING THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT FROM THE START.