By Lee

March 10, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

It’s private property and a private enterprise. They should be able to restrict who comes onto their property.

Oh wait, didn’t the Supreme Court rule several years ago that private businesses couldn’t deny to serve blacks?

What’s the difference between restricting based on race and based on age.

Not a damn bit.

BTW, I say private property owners and private business owners should be able to decide who they do or dont serve.

By Charlie

March 10, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

I think the mall should ban teenagers completely. Oh wait, they probably spend the majority of the money spent in the mall…darn. Seriously though, what kind of inappropriate behavior are they talking about? If they are committing crimes, arrest them. A few examples being made should straighten them out. At the end of the day, if they want to ban unaccompanied minors, I don’t think they are going to be able to get away with it, as I imagine these kids are minorities so it will be seen as racist, whether it is or not. If I’m mistaken, sorry, but the malls I have been in are that way.

By MC

March 10, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

This isn’t punishing the stupid punks engaged in illegal behavior as much as it is punishing the other, civil teenagers. Those punks really do get away with too much…and they’ll hang out and smoke dope elsewhere now. I’m thinking behind Kohl’s.

By bouttime

March 10, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Good for you Arbor Place Mall. The kids that are hanging out at the movies,are in there little groups blocking the entrance to the theater,and if you try to get by them they have some smart remark. When you go to the Mall with your kids and you are going to the movies we do not need this hassale. It would be differnt if they were there for anything but to hang out and look for trouble. Parents if you dont like it they are not wanted at the Mall DONT GO THERE………….. I can go I am over 18 how about that. Keep your thugs at home where they belong.

By DW

March 10, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

I am pretty sure they all know where the honey hole is let them go there with the other thug, drug dealing brothers are.Go to Stewart Avenue where u belong. We do not want Arbor Place to end up like the other Malls u have destroyed.Get your parents to drop u off somewhere else , or just steal a car.

By MOT

March 10, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

It seems to me that the weekend hits around here, (East Cobb) and parents who don’t want to be hindered with their adorable offspring who do no wrong, give them a boat load of cash, drop them off at the nearby theaters, shopping centers, malls, etc. so they won’t have to spend any time with them. My husband and I find that even Chili’s and other similar restaurants are overtaken on the weekend. I asked the waiter about this and if it bothered him and he said it is very annoying, as they come in a huge group, take up space that a large group or several smaller groups would take, but then order, water, or a couple of softdrinks, they just need a place to hang out he said. So in one respect, that they were safe and socializing safely was good, but that it sure did take a bite out of revenue and his pocket too!

They really don’t want to go to the movies, they really don’t want to eat, or once they do, they want to just talk, socialize. Too bad there are places that provide this for kids who just want to be seen out and about.

But the parents of these really young ones, like 10, 11, 12, the kids can’t drive, so to be free of them, they just dump them at the theater, mall, restaurant and then leave them to get their own ride home!!! AND many kids have little manners. So far as I know, kids are basically behaving, but these herds left on their own too often, could turn into something else besides socializing that would land them in legal troubles, or in danger.

I support Arbor Mall taking a stand. Good for them. More places should. But we should also look at providing safe fun places for kids to socialize in large numbers.

By JohnnyReb

March 10, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

Great point by Lee. This is indeed private property & they have a right to restrict whomever they please from their property. These snotnose punks need to be working instead of wasting Daddy & Mommy’s hard-earning money on “sheeple-bait” like iPods, rap(is crap) CDs & tacky designer clothes. Put these little hoodlums to doing some back-breaking hard work & teach them some character!

By catlady

March 10, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Appropriate as in High Freakin’ Time. My business has been lost to places that have folks loitering, stores playing rap music loudly (Abecrombie and Fitch), or with too strong an odor (Victoria’s Secret, Bath and Body Works). I also get up and leave in restaurants with loud music or screaming, undisciplined children.

For businesses without the guts this mall has, I think unsupervised minors at the malls, etc., should be taken to the police precinct and their parents booked when they show up to claim them. It is child endangerment, simply put. Once that baby is conceived it is YOUR responsibility until it is an adult. Parents used to understand this, but began giving up responsibility about the time they decided they needed to concentrate on “finding themselves” and “self-actualization”. If your child needs social time, invite the friends over to your house for a few hours, instead of inflicting them on the rest of us.

By catlady

March 10, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

If you do invite the friends over, you might discover that your child does not really need so much social time after all.

By Peachy

March 10, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Catlady is right on the money!! These little cretins have run my business off on more than one occasion. And, if “The Death Stare” doesn’t shut up the screaming kids, I walk out there, too.

By Mari

March 10, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this

Here we go again…more race bashing commentary. Of course you NEVER see white children mis-behavingin the malls, wearing sagging/baggy clothes, riding in the parking lots with rap music BLASTING from their cars, being rude, loud, and obnoxious. Let’s be real…kids of all races are guilty of these things. Stop throwing stones if your own white house is made of glass. All you have to do is pull up the WSB-TV website today and you’ll see a few stories pertaining to white teens being charged with felonious crimes (bank robbery/theft, killing her own mother, stealing Girl Scout cookies, and the list goes on). Please stop making race an issue and let’s focus on these social problems that are affecting ALL communities.

By The72John

March 10, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this

Wow…you really think that private business owners should be able to ban whomever they choose? Scary…Yeah…in the grand Ole USA we should be able to keep out the n**** and the queers and the chinks and the wops and the gooks…just ‘cause we hate them.

People like “Lee” deserve to suffer the same bigotry they wish on others. Trash.

By Randy Marsh

March 10, 2007 9:54 PM | Link to this

People who annoy me should be banned. This means all naggers.

By Yep

March 11, 2007 3:32 AM | Link to this

People who are ignorant should go straight to hell. That means Randy Marsh.

By ron

March 11, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

When crows bother my corn patch,I shoot one and hang it on a post for the other crows to see.They get the message and stay away.Would something like this work where unruly teens hang out?

By Erin

March 11, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

I used to live in GA but now live in AL. We have this rule in place at our malls and it is wonderful. It cuts down on the amount of people that are going to the mall and not actually shopping. It is nice to go to the mall and not have kids there “hanging out” and taking up space. So I say good for you Arbor Place.

By lwa

March 11, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

The malls aren’t denying service to anyone. The malls are simply stating that minors (yes, minors) need to be with an adult. As a mother of a teenager, I don’t have a problem with this at all b/c my daughter doesn’t hang out at the mall. If she is there, it is with me and my pocketbook.

BTW, there is a mall in KS that closes at 8pm on Saturdays, yes 8pm because of the kids hanging around. Loss of business for the merchants.

By Michelle

March 11, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

This has got to be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. What are they afraid of?

By lwa

March 11, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

Michelle,

The teens drive away business from paying customer b/c paying customers don’t want to have to deal with the bad language, dis-respect, blocking stores and walkways, running, loud talking and possible theft.

Have you gone to the mall on a Friday or Sat. night and really taken a good look around? I always say to myself “Why are they just hanging around.” It is not just this mall, it is happening all over the country.

If the parent is with the child and one can assume that the child/children will behave themselves accordingly.

By lwa

March 11, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

Did the mall state how they were going to enforce the new rules?

By Nic

March 11, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

I actually like this idea. I lived in Alpharetta for 9 years before I moved to Statesboro, GA for college. We have a small mall, only about 20 stores, but there is a rule in effect that says “anyone age 16 and under are not allowed in the mall alone after 7pm on any given night”. It’s annoying to try to shop when you have kids zooming around you on those shoes that have roller skates built in, or screaming because their friend took the last shirt that they wanted. I think this new rule would be great for the mall and the shoppers.

By kmh

March 11, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

I think this was a very wise decision made by the powers that be…anytime you go to a mall on a Friday or Saturday night, you can’t hardly walk because of the clusters of teens loitering in front of stores, eating areas and so forth. The groups refuse to move out of the way of anyone trying to get through and glare at you if you dare say “excuse me.” They act as if they own the area in which they are loitering. The language and general display of behavior is not conducive for younger children (who happen to be very impressionable) and the lack of pride the girls have in themselves (which is extremely evident in the choices of clothing, or lack of, that they wear) makes one wonder where the parents of these teens are. But then these are the same kids that are constantly in trouble at school and their parents are the same ones that scream loudest when they feel that their “little darling” is always in the right and just being picked on by teachers and administrators.

I applaud the decision and it will certainly make my decisions to not frequent malls on the weekends possibly change. It is about time that someone stood up for what is right and hold those accountable that should be held accountable. I hope all malls and public shopping areas, theatres, etc. adapt the same rule! Families should not have to be penalized because of unruly and obnoxious teens that are allowed to take over public places!

By Timmike

March 11, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

I say hooray, this is something that happens all over in virginia I was in a mall and a huge group of kids caused a stampede they thought it would be funny to join together in a group and run down the mall in a big group screaming scared customers to death businesses were closing their gates I was in a store where the manager closed the gate and this pregnant woman was banging on the gate crying fearing for her life. They ran from one end of the mall to the other and when done just sat there laughing. Its not a color thing I was at perimeter walked in the same time with this 13 yr old girl she was dress normal saw her later own she had chnged in a short skimpy skirt with no underwear you could see the bottom of her butt and her 13 yr old boyfriend feeling on her butt. Yes their needs to be adult supervision I remember going to the mall young but my mom or friends mom was in the mall also.

By Emma

March 11, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

I stopped attending a mall in my N.C. hometown for this very reason. I was tired of being harrassed and threatened by mobs of teens. The mall is not a “hang out.” Nor is it a “day care” for young people. It is a place of business. If you are not doing business, then you need to leave. Teens should “hang out” at their own homes.

By MBW

March 11, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

I say keep it simple:

1) If teen are breaking the law, have security/law enforcement punish them like anyone else.

2) Having teenagers present in any given place does not automatically equal trouble. Let them be in the mall provided they are not causing trouble. If they are, deal with them as you would any other unruly customer.

3) As a former middle school teacher, I’d rather see the kids hang out at the mall than out on the streets. At least at the mall there are other people around, which cuts down on at least some foolishness.

Remember, we were all teens once ourselves. Let them have some freedom…but make them follow the same rules that adults have to follow.

By ChrisD

March 11, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

It’s about time. Should happen in all malls now.

By catlady

March 11, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

If rules involving decency and correct behavior had been enforced (and the police called religiously) in the beginning, we would not have the need for this more aggressive rule. However, as others have said, the parents of these folks are either oblivious or unconcerned, so now all will have to pay the price. I will go to malls with this rule (now that I know there is one that has it), and I will NOT frequent the others. But IMHO it needs to be a 7 day a week rule for every hour the mall is open, rather than restricted to weekend evenings.

By catlady

March 11, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

The reason I suggest a 24/7 rule is because parents I have seen will just reason that “the big ole mall is so unfair so we will just drop little Suzie off on Wednesdays instead”. Having seen this in action as a teacher, I would suggest putting a lid on it every day.

What is the penalty for breaking this rule? Will the kids without parents be hauled to the police station for parent pickup, or will there be a room for detainees at the mall? Will there be a fine? A visit to family court? I suggest making it as inconvenient as possible, and any kids not picked up by their parents are turned over to DFCS that evening. You would not believe how many young teens are told to “find a ride home”. I know, because I have seen other parents suckered into giving rides repeatedly for worthless parents, and it escalates from there. These kids are largely throwaways, and you can bet many of them will be in serious trouble before they are 18. I’ve seen that, also, with pregnancies, dropouts, and drugs abounding. We have let folks get away with irresponsible behavior for far too long, and we are certainly reaping it in the schools.

By Sped Teacher

March 11, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

You would be surprised at how many teens are banned from Southlake Mall. Still, it is over run by teens walking in large groups of 10 across and no way for others to walk around them.

Too much freedom and not enough (if any supervision) is the problem. Then, you wonder why schools are in such danger.

By traci

March 11, 2007 10:36 PM | Link to this

good for douglas county for once the cops are not scared to do there jobs dealing with the smart a** black kids of douglas county. i have a teenager which is bi-racial and it got to the point to were i got sick and tired of him wanting to hang out at the mall on the weekends and i would go with him and you couldnt even walk over by the movies because the kids were blocking the walk way and then they just look at you. i have sat down and watched the kids when people try to walk and it was mostly the white people that the black kids would give a hard time to. and not hte blacks. and if you went to the mall on the weekend it was mostly the black kids upstairs hanging out so yeah it was a problem. and its about time douglas county did something about it.and no my child was never just DROPPED off. i work 5days a week like some people in douglas county and on the weekends i want to spend time with my child because of both of our busy sch. we dont get alot of time during the week and he is the one person i want to spend time with finding out how his week went because he does play sports at school. so no i dont use the mall as my babysitter like the other parents of douglas county do. but what will happen during the summer time are they going to change the time for the week days also oh no they will just drop them off at SIX FLAGS and let them do the samething there…..;

By J

March 11, 2007 11:44 PM | Link to this

I remember being a teen and having the freedom to go wherever I wanted(within reason) with my friends. I’m glad I lived in a time when there was more freedom. Granted, we never were rude, loud, or unruly because we were just good kids that never bothered anyone and we wore jeans and t shirts. We were just a group of good girls who enjoyed shopping and seeing movies together. I have a lot of great memories of fun weekends with my friends at the movies, mall, and eating out. We didn’t break any laws or bother anyone. I think if they aren’t doing anything wrong, lay off, it’s a free country. If you start doing that, why not just ban all customers that are just coming in to browse, window shop, or have a cheap date in a restaurant, just having a drink and talk? I think this ban goes too far. If they are doing something wrong, security should intervene, and get parents accountable. If they aren’t doing anything wrong, and just having a good time with friends, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. The mall seems to be ran by greedy control freaks.

By Rich

March 12, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

Hey lwa,

This is just a wild guess, but I would assume they will enforce the law the same same way they enforce all laws pertaining to age. If you look underage and your loitering at the mall after 6PM on a weekend, they will request ID? Duh!!

By Mari

March 12, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

@ Traci:

I guess there are no “smart a* white kids of Douglas county.” I shop at Arbor Place and let me tell you…I’ve encountered plenty of smart a* white kids. I guess you think all white kids move out of the way when shoppers are attempting to pass by. I guess you think all white kids are always polite and courteous to legitmate shoppers. Do you really think delinquent behavior is restricted to minorities?! Like I said in my earlier post, just read the headlines and you’ll see how innocent white children are (NOT). And to think you have a bi-racial child!! How can you be so bigoted (and ignorant)? If your bi-racial son happens to be half black, he will probably be subjected to racist attitudes that you clearly possess, and that will be ashame.

I’m wondering if the man who fathered your child was a smart a** black man. Maybe that is what’s coloring your judgement (pun intended). That would also say a lot about your judgement!

By Mike in Woodstock

March 12, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

Excellent Policy. Good Arbor Place. I wish Town Center would implement this policy. It looks like Thug Central there on Friday & Saturday nights. It is sort of irrelevant to me though. I usually find everything I’d need in a mall on Highway 92 in Woodstock so my trips to the mall are fewer and further between.

By Georgia

March 12, 2007 8:46 AM | Link to this

Wow, the race card comes out very early on a Monday morning. It’s not even 9:00 and already its been played. What a shame…..

Anyway, my kids do not hang at the mall. I personally hate malls. We have a teen-friendly basement, with games, a foosball table, dart board, ping pong table, two computers, a “normal” 36 inch tv, DVD player, CD player etc. All my kids’ friends come over to our house on the weekends. We know each and every one of their friends, and their parents. It’s call COMMUNITY. The kids are allowed to stay as long as they like, sometimes spending the night, etc. We would gladly have them in our home, other than dropping them off at the mall. The mall is dangerous on the weekends, so we just stay away. If the need arises to go to the mall, we will hit it on a Tuesday, or Wednesday afternoon. I love my kids and love their friends, and I am very happy they are all comfortable in our home. They know they are loved.

By JT

March 12, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Its kind of like riding Marta around 3 everyday…

By Mall Shopper

March 12, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

I agree that restriction are needed for our Malls. I also agree that it is not a race issue that some might think it is. There is trully a problem when kids under 18 are dropped off to roam the malls. I have even let some of them use my phone to call their parents. We as parents must supervise our children. They are our children. I have two children that I spend time with on the weekends, since I work during the week. If every parent would take responsibility for their own children I know this would not even be a issue. Wonder why these kids are not doing homework or reading a book? Georgia test scores are not that great so there is no reason for them to be playing around at a mall. I really hope that this restriction moves to other malls across the Metro area. Maybe if examples are made then there will be no more drop off service at the Mall.

By MP

March 12, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

you are right, we were all teens and yes my parents allowed me to hang at the mall with my friends. But you know what, we did not stand in the doorways and refuse to move. We did not make nasty comments when someone said something to us. We walked around and shopped and when we wanted to talk we found a table and sat. We respected the people we were around.

I HATE going to the malls these days and dealing with some of the punk teens out there and they are every color. Its not every kid but it has gotten out of hand. I dont like taking my 9 and 2 year old to the mall because of the older kids there just “hanging out” and being rude. They are disrespectful and god forbid you say something to them, like “Can we get by here”..they dont move and they laugh.
You know what though..I blame their parents.

By B

March 12, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

PLEASE do the same thing at Discover Mills. I have banned that complex from my shopping locations!

By Aquagirl

March 12, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Since J thinks it’s such a travesty that the “greedy control freaks” of the mall want to demand accountability, I’m sure it will be okay to send the kids over to her house. There, she can assume responsibility for monitoring the teenagers who have lazy parents. And everyone else can shop. Sounds like a win-win situation.

And thanks, Georgia, for actually parenting your kids. They and their friends will turn out to be great people for it.

By blanks

March 12, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

This rule is to aid stupid parents from making a terrible mistake, which is - DON’T DROP YOUR KIDS OFF AT THE MALL! Pedophiles, gang recruiters, drug dealers and sadly pimps aren’t waiting for your kids to wander into a seedy neighborhood looking for them - they are coming out to nice suburban malls to look for bored,lonely teens. They quietly become friends, innocently hanging out with your kids in a place where your teen feels comfortable. Wake up before this happens, pay attention to where your kid is and who they are with!

I agree that it is sad that teens don’t have a good safe place to hang out together, but the mall isn’t that place.

Way to go, Arbor Place! Thanks for being more than just a mall - and being a responsible member of our community.

By Georgia

March 12, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Aquagirl Thanks…..I love being the “Kool-ade” mom. I always wanted a house full of kids. Now I do, but they aren’t all mine and they all call me “Momma”. I have a revolving door on my house, and just about everyone is welcome…..Even if MY kids aren’t home, some kids still drop by and hang out.
And, I can even get some of the kids to help out around the yard too!!!!!

By Denise

March 12, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

I understand why a restriction should be in place. I agree with Blanks, the mall is a haven for pedophiles and pimps. I do not understand why race has played a factor in most people commments. Teenagers are teenagers regardless of race. There are white children who can be equally as rude, annoying, and foul mouth. I would rather our black children hang out the malls blocking the closest entrance than to rob banks, steal girl scout cookies, or shoot up the latest mall. I also do not understand if you are so annoyed by the blacks and biracial children, then why sleep with a “smart a$$” black person. When our black children are winning your college football and basketball championships we are fine, but we cant hang out at “your mall”. I do not understand why the race card should have been pulled to simply address the matter of a mall restriction.

By db

March 12, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Recently,I was shopping at Discover Mills and stopped to enjoy an ice cream. When I sat down on the bench, a group of teenagers (guys with their pants down around their thighs and chains down their waists with huge gold medallions)came very close to me and sat down. I was very uncomfortable and a little nervous. This irritated me. I feel I should be able to take my day off, enjoy a day of shopping without these unattended teens making me feel like I have to get up and go (which I did). White or black, they are out of control. I saw a girl there a couple of weeks ago, that looked like she came up from the pits of hell, dressed in black, chains and purple hair, oh I forgot to mentione the love lock she had on another very young teenage girl. I feel for their parents, however they probably go into the bathroom before their parents pick them up, change a look like little darlings when they leave. Oh well….this is America. I look forward to tighter restrictions on the malls, but will not hold my breath.

By GaNative

March 12, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Since when did this become an issue of race? I thought the topic was about teens hanging out at the mall?!!

I clearly remember hanging out at Lenox as a teenager and never getting into any trouble. I don’t understand such a ridiculous rule. Teens have always hung out at the mall. I did it 20 years ago and I know my soon to be 13 year old will want to do the same. I would hope that in 2007 this decision would not be made simply becasuse the kids are black. White kids are equally rude and disrespectful. Have you seen SuperNanny. Please! This ain’t about race, it’s about respect. I have been to Arbor Place on a Friday night and I don’t recall seeing a whole lot of black kids being rude. I do recall seeing a lot of white kids hanging out. I could care less. Some of you need to get a life! This is the very reason we will always have racism in this country. The ignorant will always be around to continue it!!!

By lwa

March 12, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Rich,

Not all kids have an valid state issued ID that shows the age. DUH!!!

Are they going to tell the kids to just leave the mall? Are they going to hold the kids in a room and have them call someone to pick them up? Are they going to take names to keep a record? Are they going to give students a warning? Is so, what type of warning? What are the consequences for breaking the rules? Will they deny entrance to the mall is someone continues to break the rules.

Before you write DUH!! to a person and try to answer the obvious, think about the not so obvious answers to the question.

So, here is my question again, how is the mall going to enfore the rules?

enforce definition: verb: ensure observance of laws and rules;

So Rich there is more to enforcing the rules than just looking at an ID

By Monday Blues

March 12, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

I used to drop my then 15 year old off at the mall every Friday night. Then we got the call from Nordstrom’s security. Busted!!!! No more mall without a parent. As a teen, I too hung out at the mall. But that was back in the late 70’s in a very small town. And we were very respectful, because you never know who was around you (parent wise). Being back in the day, if another parent saw you messing up or doing something stupid, they called your parents…….so we were always “paranoid”…….

By DW

March 12, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this

Like i say keep your little angels home they dont need to be at the mall. These black kids are the problem they dont work they dont go to school,they havent even figured out AX is not a word unless you are black Make your thugs go to school and go where they can go like westend with the rest of the low lifes and yes most of the rednecks in GEORGIA hate u and all your kids and we are supporting most of you people with the foodstamps welfare and any other program you can get stay out of our MALL we do not want you there..Oh yeah i am a racist,and so are you……………

By c

March 24, 2007 9:50 PM | Link to this

so, everyone is afraid of teenagers huh?

By Katie

March 24, 2007 10:20 PM | Link to this

okay, so i’ve read some of the above comments and came to my own conclusion. No matter if you’re racist, afraid of kids, or annoyed, that’s no reason to ban all teenagers from the mall. First of all, it’s not entirely the kids faults, it’s the parents who should know where their kids are and should know if their kids are mature enough to behave by themselves, I do agree that kids under the age of 12 shouldn’t be dropped off, and I also believe that kids shouldn’t be just ‘dropped off’ at the mall, they should have a way of quickly contacting their parents in case they get in trouble. It isn’t just the minority races that are causing the problems, whites cause some the trouble too. For those of you who think teens only go to the mall to socialize, you’re not completely right. I go to the mall to buy music (not rap for those who seem to have an issue with that) eat and basically to enjoy a place where you can do activities with or without friends, and whoever said you can’t socialize at the mall??? I do agree that it has gotten out of hand, but why don’t they just make it a law to not congregate in large masses at the mall, that way people aren’t blocked from getting to their destinations and other teens can enjoy the mall. Even at the schools teens are rude, that doesn’t make the school ban kids does it??? By the way, this is coming from a 14 year old.