Terence Moore

By Murphy

February 20, 2009 1:32 PM | Link to this

Maybe the single greatest article you have ever written. Needs to be re-posted about once a month until those in the front office “get it.”

By BillyBrave

February 20, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this

It was YOU TM, who blew it by reporting Griffy was signed….which wasn’t true. It is YOU TM who has no journalistic credibility. Time and time again you have shown this to be true. I can only hope the AJC shows the same type of restraint when your contract comes up for renewal.

By Reggie L

February 20, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this

Always liked Smoltzie…..his words speak volumes.

By Robert

February 20, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this

Terrence,

Are you suggesting that the Braves made a mistake by not re-signing Furcal, Maddux, Glavine, Javy, Sheffield, Andruw, and JD Drew? In general, they have mostly flopped, some spectacularly so since they left here. Especially considering their price tags. I am sad to see these guys go but there has to be some sanity when weighing performance and price.

By Josh

February 20, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this

well i think for one the jake peavy deal wasent that he didnt wanna come here its that we werent willing to trade the players the padres wanted .. the smoltz thing was a little different but the braves couldnt count on him cause of all the surguries hell he isnt even gonna start pitchin untill june .. and the braves payroll isnt as flexible as boston .. aj burnett .. 82 million from the yankees .. he didnt wanna be the ace of the staff so thats probably why .. furcal .. well we thought we had him and then he bolted .. even schurholtz was upset how that was handled .. griffey .. well i mean really he has roots in seattle bein there so long .. dont forget we got lowe and kawakami .. so i wouldnt say the braves business approach is bad .. each player is a different story .. i dont think its the braves management .. i think it might be the fact we cant offer the most money and the fact bobby isnt goin to be around much longer and we did lose 92 games last year and we are in a division with the mets phillies and marlins

By James

February 20, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this

I am sick of Smoltz. Enough already.

By Go Away and SHUT up!

February 20, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

John go away and SHUT up ! You had a chance to stay and you were money hungry. Yes you stayed with the Braves for 4 contracts but they also paid you alot of money and they stuck with you through numerous and long stints on the DL.

By TheManMike

February 20, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

Wow - Yet another day old piece of work by T.Moore. Come on man - give us NEW information, or at least something we have not been talking about non-stop since it happened and are now trying to move on…..Seriously. Move on….its ok.

Braves have a 40-man roster to handle, so, why not assist us fans in informing us on THOSE players. We are not interested in non-Braves opinions at this point.

Try again….

By Braves Fan

February 20, 2009 1:48 PM | Link to this

I liked John Smoltz, but I really think his time has passed. I’m hoping the Braves have finally quit pinning their hopes on a bullpen where the average age is 40. Time will tell, but we have to bite the bullet at some point and rebuild.

By toby cash

February 20, 2009 1:49 PM | Link to this

I wonder why we are still getting stories about John Smoltz. He is gone, he could have stayed. Did the Braves send him to the Red Sox, I think not. His choice was to leave. Time to move on AJC, other stories need to be written.

By Atlanta Sports Genius

February 20, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this

Of course something’s wrong. Frank Wren is a buffoon. At least when Schuerholz asked guys to take less money, he ran a classy organization.

They’ve got an utter unprofessional running things now.

By kevin

February 20, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this

For once Terrence, good point and I agree…kudos to u. Braves are falling into medicority and are doing so fast!

By Bill Fossett

February 20, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

One name tells the whole story about whats wrong with the Braves, “Shurholtz”

By Ron

February 20, 2009 1:52 PM | Link to this

How much longer before we become a horrible team like back in the late 80s? This has got to stop. When you chase away someone like John Smoltz you’ve lost your soul

By Andy K.

February 20, 2009 1:52 PM | Link to this

DOB has gone to H-E double hockey sticks and back with all the comments on his blog. don’t be surprised If a few show up here especially for you…

By Stephen

February 20, 2009 1:53 PM | Link to this

I’ve been a Braves fan for 20 years, and I’ve always defended the Braves and their free-agent decisions, but this is getting out of control. Even if some of the players that the Braves pursued this winter weren’t what they necessarily needed or were over-priced, the bad PR is just embarassing. Even if the Braves know what they’re doing, they’re giving the rest of MLB and the fans the impression that they don’t have a clue.

By JC

February 20, 2009 1:53 PM | Link to this

Wow. Coming from Terrence alone, I might be skeptical. But with Smoltzie doing the talking, it looks like my beloved team is falling apart at the seams. The Braves seems to have lost a measure of prestige around the league, and are no longer a top-tier destination for players.

This is truly sad.

By Coopdawg

February 20, 2009 1:55 PM | Link to this

Wow, finally a column by Terrance that I agree with. Smoltz brings up great points. Atlanta is done with the days when superstars would stay for less money. The Braves are destined to become the Seattle Mariners of the National League….bring stars up through the sytem, pay them nothing, and let them get their money elsewhere.

By steve brown

February 20, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this

How many young kids were heart broken by Smoltz leaving for a few dollars that should be relatively meaningless to him. Smoltz, the great humanitarian, left the kids out in the rain. I remember how I felt as a kid when Willie Mays and the Giants left NY for SF, my first real loss in life.

By wxwax

February 20, 2009 1:57 PM | Link to this

Isn’t the issue obvious? The Braves haven’t had any money for years. Schuerholz struggled with the team’s new poverty status, and now Wren is too. Everyone who left, did so for more money. Pretty simple, don’t you think?

By Spud Webb

February 20, 2009 1:58 PM | Link to this

terrence off the mark again. Burnett, offered a LOT more money than the braves offered, FACT. Peavy wasnt a free agent, he was on the block “supposedly” and hasn’t been moved to ANY OTHER TEAM, much less the braves, FACT. Furcal, who knows what happened, we dont even know the guys real age. No Smoltzie, that is a whole different story. Let’s see, the guy had the choice to stay here or go to Boston. Nobody knows if he’s actually going to pitch this year or not. The Braves had high hopes last year until Glavine, Smoltz, Moylan & Huddy all went down with signifigant arm injuries. So Does John want the braves to put stock into bad arms, pay them a ton of money and HOPE that they make it through the year, as they DIDNT last year?? So we can go through another season of what “could’ve been”?? Uh no John, they didn’t and neither did the fans. I could care less about the times when John didn’t test free agency or took less money. It’s not like he didnt make MILLIONS or get well taken care of. This is a joke. I remember when a team (braves) held on and helped john through tough times, arm issues, seeing a shrink, things like that? Funny, in johns mind it was poor john. This is a fact, john was on the radio, 2 weeks before he signed with Boston and FLAT SAID THAT THE BOSTON RUMOR was all created by the AJC & said NO he wasn’t going there” Really? Seems to me the AJC was right all along. Not sure what John wanted other than money?? Did you not get enough love here john? Not enough attention??? I’m glad you went to Boston. Facing the american league every 5 days should be fun for you and your ego. Go Yankees, I hope Tampa, Baltimore, Toronto and that whole division eat you for lunch. But you can blame Wren and the Braves. Thanks for the good years & thanks for this, lost a lot of respect for you John.

By Zim

February 20, 2009 1:58 PM | Link to this

I’m glad that John Smoltz could write your article for you. All those guys you have listed, aside from Burnett, are all at the tail end or past the prime of their careers.

While I love John Smoltz and everything he’s done for the Atlanta Braves… he’s not a 32-year old pitcher at the top of his game. He still has good baseball left, but baseball is a business and Smoltz’s time is almost up.

Furcal, Andruw, Griffey, Glavine, Maddux, and others aren’t game changers (or weren’t when they left)… Atlanta signed Brian McCann before last year. That is the type of signing I like to see.

By Paula

February 20, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this

Good grief Smoltz. Shut up. You were all about the money. You are quickly ruining your “legacy” with your mouth.

By Jerry

February 20, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is a traitor and should be treated as such. He is getting what he wanted and whats us to feel bad for him because he left us. Terry, you’re and idiot. Why should I be concerned with what Smoltz has to say. We need to talk about who’s here, not somebody that didn’t and doesn’t want to be here. Smoltz is a rat. Wren said what he would do and Smoltz wanted to push it because he’s Smoltz. As if that means anything. He was a pitcher that was here but not anymore. Wren said he would evaluate and then sign players based upon how they were progressing. Smoltz did not want to be here so quit calling on him to talk about anything Braves, Terry. Smoltz is not a Brave and its good to see him running his mouth. He has nothing to say that I want to hear. Wise up Terry. Wasn’t it you that pointed out Griffey wanted to come here. Why, because you said so. Well I guess you and Junior aren’t really that tight. About like you and Smoltz. Say good bye idiot

By Rico Carty

February 20, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

“I didn’t leave the Braves, by the way” Uh, yes you did, John. The Red Sox offered you more guaranteed money and you took it. That’s fine. But don’t play the victim. That may play with your church friends in Alpharetta, but in the reality-based world, it looks petty and small.

By Mike

February 20, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

I like your article Terence I think you hit the problem right on the head ownership and management.Lets face it the Braves are way to cheap to compete in our division and on the free agent market.The Braves always wanted to rent players rather than attain them by signing them to to nice contract extenions.I dont blame some of them for leaving probably feeling insulted by some of the offers the Braves make.Obviously its a problem the Braves need to get a new owner thats not affraid to open up the pocket book and get rid of some of those guys in the front office.

By Windale

February 20, 2009 2:02 PM | Link to this

I must for once agree with Terrence. This organization has no clue on how to build a winner. I bet anything they let Chipper get away next year. I am sick of the Braves and their arrogance in the front office. Get rid of Wren and JS. We all know Wren is just a puppet anyway.

By hydee

February 20, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this

The Braves did not have the flexibility that Boston has with regards to pitching, that is why Boston was able to put together a better offer for Smoltz. And he didn’t have much communication with the Barves’ front office? Are they supposed to call him everyday and see how he is doing? If he is receiving his check without any problem and is happy with his manager and his fans, what the heck would he need to talk to the front office about so much???

By Paula

February 20, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this

John, do us all a favor and just stop talking. You are no longer a Brave, your opinions don’t matter.

Oh, and Terrence. When are you going to “man up” and take responsibility for the Griffey situation. What kind of “man” allows another (DOB) to take the heat for your mistake. You’re pitiful.

By hitnskins

February 20, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this

free agents are to Frank Wren…..as blue balz are to a young man.

By Mike B

February 20, 2009 2:06 PM | Link to this

Wow Terrence, no race card?

I’m impressed…

By TMooreisadouche

February 20, 2009 2:06 PM | Link to this

Something’s wrong with your brain.

So it worked to Smoltz’s own admission for 14 seasons…he was a Brave for 20 and will be a Red Sox for one. We couldn’t ‘close’ with anyone, yet every publication has the Braves as big winners in the offseason. And what the heezy? How did we get that list of players in the first place (smoltz, Jones, Jones, Drew, Sheffield, etc.) if they can’t close.

OMG- Andruw was wearing a Braves cap!!! We should sign him immediately. If the Braves signed every fat guy wearing a Braves cap, we would solve the economic crisis!

By Dick

February 20, 2009 2:07 PM | Link to this

The intent of this article was to make the public and paying fans know of the reputation managment with Atlanta is setting. The organization is now becoming known as cheap.

By Bobby's Belly

February 20, 2009 2:08 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is a has been. He was great. I’m not knocking him. When you’re a mid market team you cannot take chances on players like Smoltz. Boston, NY, LA can. He chased the bigger money. That’s OK. He’s not a bad guy for that.

By lexbrave

February 20, 2009 2:08 PM | Link to this

smoltz didn’t have a choice to stay in atlanta? what the hell was that contract they offered him that he turned down for more guaranteed money in boston? sounds like he was given a choice to me, and he took the money..no hard feelings for it and im not even saying i blame him..most of us would have done the same..

smoltzie is one of my favorite all time braves but just admit what you did man..you took the money.. you are bitter the braves didn’t throw more at you and that hurt your pride. that’s ok..but be honest…don’t bad mouth them like they didn’t even offer you a contract when in fact what they offered you was an awfully fair deal for someone in your current position.

By Father of 5

February 20, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this

Now that we know the club shows no loyalty to icons or fans, the fans have a chance to get even. My money will be spent at GaTech and Gwinnett baseball games this year. TBS is off the air, so I guess we’ll catch the Braves over the internet. No more Turner Field until Wren is gone.

By Braves Fan

February 20, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this

Most professional teams that succeed generally do not overpay for players. I see nothing wrong with not overpaying or even paying at all for Jones or Hampton. Also, didn’t Hampton leave for less money? Peavy would have been a trade so the dollars we would have spent were not a factor the issue was not emptying our farm system. Peavy is still with the Padres so either the Padres or every other major league team is dropping the ball on that deal. I would to have liked to keep Smoltz but did we not offer effectively the same deal IF he ended up contibuting significantly this year?

By piermontdawg

February 20, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this

if the braves win the world series, will we then praise upper management for the brilliant team they assembled?

By Robert

February 20, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this

The business approach is wrong for the Braves. However, I have dropped my subscription to the AJC and decided to subscribe to the Gossip Magazines. At least they are right 50% of the time. The AJC Sports Editor is a joke after the number of “committments” from their sources.

By PMC

February 20, 2009 2:12 PM | Link to this

Well done Mr. Moore. Well Done.

By JD

February 20, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

Good article. The Braves spent way too much time early in this decade not developing or having good young pitching talent. It just hasn’t panned out. Of course, it’s a little difficult to do what they did in the late 80’s and early 90’s and land Glavine, Avery, Smoltz (trade) out of their farm system. And then land Maddux 2-years after the run starts. This meant they only had to add a solid 4th/5th starter (who is a #2 or #3 guys somewhere else) once every 2-3 years. My thing with Wren is that he was the GM in Baltimore before here, and he spent a lot of money on big bats and pitchers, who never panned out. Let Bobby Cox go back to GM for pete’s sake. He’s the one that started all of this. Remember his vow in 85 or 86 when he became GM? Braves would make a run for the playoffs within 5 yrs. He took over as mgr/gm in middle of year 5 and then the run began the next year. Cox is the reason the Braves were so good.

By frustratedbravesfan

February 20, 2009 2:13 PM | Link to this

You hit the nail on the head Terence!!! Braves fans are getting tired of this. It’s about time to shake up the front office.

By Scott

February 20, 2009 2:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Braves! The 80’s are calling, they want their horrific cellar-dwelling teams back!

I’ve been a Braves fan for all of my 37 years on this earth. I’ve never hated any of their owners until now. Liberty Media sucks in that they want pour any more money than they do to make this team better, and if they can’t deal with more money, sell, sell, sell to someone who can put up the funds to do so! Frank Wren can only do so much with so little. He may be reaching a little too far. The braves will have to start small and build from the inside (minors) to start winning a few years down the road. The 90’s are gone, so go for the new look. Don’t trade your top prospects for rent-a-players. Look long term.

GO BRAVES!

By Spud Webb

February 20, 2009 2:17 PM | Link to this

Zim you are SPOT on. Past their prime. I’m sorry if Johnny can’t stand not to be in the spotlight or the 5th starter. Heck we should’ve signed him to a 5 year 100 million deal. Would that make you happy John?? Laughable, Smoltz, move to Boston and eat your chowder and keep your mouth shut, your not a brave anymore, WE DONT CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. This orginazation has a top 5 minor league system, let has beens go. JR, would’ve LOVED to have you. Sorry you continually want to be on a losing team, have fun in Seattle with the group of losers. I guess thats why you went back, oh and the fans?? ahahhahahaahhahahahhahha

By Jerry

February 20, 2009 2:18 PM | Link to this

The Braves make the playoffs and Smoltz doesn’t.

By Alex V

February 20, 2009 2:18 PM | Link to this

I am surprised that Terrence is allowing criticism in his comment section. The last two columns he wrote have been terrible, filled with inaccuracies. Could not post anything on them, pointing out the mistakes. Especially the last one where he was Bud Selig’s mouthpiece.

By Jt

February 20, 2009 2:19 PM | Link to this

I have always been a Smoltz fan, but the fact is that he has a huge ego that needs to be constantly stroked. There is no way the Braves could give him the kind of money the Red Sox did. The Red Sox could pay the money they did for a potential 5th starter who realistically can’t even pitch until June in order to be true to his rehab. The Braves cannot afford to spend that kind of money for someone who is not ready to pitch until June and the uncertainty concerning him. As for the other players who did not come to the Braves, each has a different reason. If money is what matters to players the most, then the Braves will have little luck signing high priced free agents. The Yanks can AFFORD to overpay the likes of AJ Burnett (just like they did with Randy Johnson, Jaret Wright, Kyle Farnsworth, and Jason Giambi). And the Red Sox can afford to tie up money from their inflated payroll in hopes that John Smoltz can be a third or fourth starter come October. Enough already. Smoltz chose to go because his ego was wounded at what the Braves felt like they could afford to pay a 40 year old pitcher coming off major shoulder surgery (remember Dr. Andrews said his shoulder had EXTENSIVE damage). He may get a chance to pitch against the Yankees in the ALCS- that is why he left- no other reason.

By J

February 20, 2009 2:21 PM | Link to this

Seriously, Smoltz could have played for the Braves if he had been willing to accept a smaller contract, which would have allowed the Braves to be more competitive by filing needs at other positions. I think it was very clear what the front-office was doing. We simply couldn’t pay Smoltz much to not pitch the first two months of the season and then not know what to expect after that. Also, why are guys like Lopez, Shef, Jones, Drew and others mentioned as free agent misses? The Braves never wanted to resign these guys, and it was the right call given our payroll restrictions. We’ve missed on free agents before (Farnsworth got $1 million extra to be the setup man in NYC instead of being the Braves closer for the 2006 season), but for the most part, we haven’t even gone after them. Honestly, is anyone surprised that Burnett opted for the Yankees? We might’ve lost free agents to the Yankees even when we were a post season fixture. We just never went after the same players. I’m so glad we didn’t even get the fans hopes up by offering Andrew a minor league deal. His defense has slipped too much for him to be of any value unless he can hit .250 with at least 25 HR’s and that’s unlikely. As for Furcal and Griffey, both would’ve been nice stories, but honestly I think we dodged injury bullets, there.

By David10605

February 20, 2009 2:22 PM | Link to this

Things were different for the Braves when Ted Turner owned the team. Since Ted was taken for a ride, the Braves have had to make it with no, or very little support from their owners. It’s really amazing how the Braves still manged to win after Turner was gone. That having been said, many of the posters are right on, Smoltz left for more money this time, period, end of discussion. I agree just leave the Braves and their fans alone now Smoltz, who the heck are you trying to convince with all this grandstanding-obviously yourself.

By ktthebrick

February 20, 2009 2:26 PM | Link to this

Terrence, If we asked nicely, do you think the Boston Golbe would hire you to cover Smoltz this season, so we could get rid of you? Dude- shut-up. You are way off base, and I am still trying to figure out how you get paid to write, much less appear on TV. Aside from Peavy, who was not a free agent, and Burnett, who took a much better offer- all the other players you mentioned needed to go. They were on the downside of their careers. Mike Hampton?? Are you serious? He does nothing for two years, signs with the Astros and his heart stops beating- and you question why he is not in a Braves uniform?? Don’t write another article until your brain starts working- that should give us all plenty of time to forget what a nitwit you are.

By Jeff321

February 20, 2009 2:28 PM | Link to this

As usual, Terrance Moore “almost” gets it right.

But, since he’s nothing more than a Bobby Cox lover.. The writeup has to include Cox isn’t the problem.

Well, using your same argument: Griffey wanted to play for Cox, but ended up in Seattle. So, doesn’t that sorta invalidate his initial comment?

Aren’t you suppose to be the one asking these questions you two bit hack!

By Time for real Change

February 20, 2009 2:28 PM | Link to this

Im beginning to not like Smoltz very much. It seems it always about him. Lets forget for a minute that the Braves didnt even know if he could pitch. Lets forget that they were in the midst of trying to put together a club and roster that could pitch. Lets forget that Smoltz bolted without even talking much to the Braves. Seems this is all one sided.

I really wish that Smoltz would just shut the trap and stop bashing the team that supported him well for all those years. Seems there is a little child starting to complain about everything. The fact is Smoltz bolted and thats his choice. Now he just needs to shut his trap cause I for one am tired of hearing it and am losing respect for the man with every interview I hear.

By JimK

February 20, 2009 2:28 PM | Link to this

To paraphrase George Steinbrenner, “Fire this man!”

By David

February 20, 2009 2:29 PM | Link to this

GLAD GRIFFEY ISN’T IN ATLANTA, HE’S OLD AND CAN’T RUN!! DUH!! IF THEY DON’T LIKE ATLANTA THEN WHO GIVES A DAMM. THE SAME FOR SMOLTZ AND THE REST, GET A LIFE TERENCE AND THE REST OF YOU CRY BABIES.

By Mike

February 20, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this

TM, you are full of it and so is John S. I have never heard such whinning. If the Braves are so bad, why did John S. stay there for 20 years. For crying out loud. You stayed in Atlanta because it was best for you. You left ATlanta because it was best for you. It was your choice. OK, so the Btaves have been ham-strung with budget problems and they could not keep up the the Yankees or other big market clubs. Almost all of those free agents went somewhere else for more money and you both know it. Of course there are always exceptions, but they still left because it was best for them, not because Frank Wren is bad. Most of them happened during Shurholtz’s era. Give me a break.

By The GM

February 20, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this

It is time for Smoltz to ride off to the golf course. He is way over the hill and there is no reason for the Braves to over pay him when he is a pitch or a a step from the DL. The Braves learned their leason betting on aging arms last year. It is time to go young and that means with the manager too.

By David in Snellville

February 20, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this

Hey “JOSH”, have you had any grammar lessons lately? Your post was laughable. Unfortunately, I was laughing so hard at all your errors that I totally missed the content of what you were trying to say. Ha! Ha! Ha!

By Dixie Dawg

February 20, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this

We need new owners in the worst kind of way. Liberty Media has cheapened a once proud organization. MLB was out of their mind for ever approving the deal for Liberty Media to buy the Braves.

Arthur Blank wanted them, and MLB just broke one off in him.

By Braves for life

February 20, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this

Yes, Smoltz is right. We need to keep every aging pitcher and player and offer them top dollar even though we dont even know if they can play the game. Thats a way to build the team there Smoltzy. I think I will have to pass on what Smoltz thinks. I think we are better off without him. Maybe Smoltz is mad because now we have a team that can win and hes not on it. Took off a little fast there didnt ya Smoltzy?

By brian22

February 20, 2009 2:31 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is quickly slipping from the #1 position on my all time favorite players list.

You made a choice - and you did have one. Can it.

By Eman

February 20, 2009 2:31 PM | Link to this

maybe in the next few years, after this streak of consecutive losing seasons starts to add up for the front office, they’ll start getting that atlanta isn’t the place of choice anymore.

the glory days are in the past and it’s not going to help them one bit when their one claim to fame Bobby Cox finally calls it quits.

By hop

February 20, 2009 2:31 PM | Link to this

at this stage who really cares what john has to say. the braves added three good pitchers and that is the name of the game,especially when they were winning in the 90’s.

we don’t need to trade any of the youth that we have which are considerable.

another year when the young ones will be ready, the braves will be a frontrunner again.

i have not given up on this year,but it will be tougher unless frenchy or one of the young ones take off with a banner year.

By Ivan Gonzalez

February 20, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this

TM has no clue, you and DOB are one of the reasons JR did not come by saying it was sure he was coming here. Come on TM, you call this journalism? Only the AJC would employ you.

By algonquin J. Calhoun

February 20, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

The Braves will be 15 games out by June 1st. Baseball is dead!

By Brave1

February 20, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

Folks, just remembered this. In EVERY case, John Smoltz could have left the Braves for MORE money.

A LOT more money. He stayed out of loyalty to the team and he did not want to be away from his family.

This time around, the money was a whopping $2MM apart. That’s sounds like a lot, but when you add up the money he left over the years (an easy $40MM), then you can see why he is miffed.

John Smoltz should have retired a Brave. It is inexcusable what the Braves Management Team has decided to do. This is the 2nd worst decision (letting Aaron go to the Brewers over a couple hundred thousand in the 80’S was the worst) that this club has made since being in Atlanta.

TM, sometimes you make me crazy. But you hit on the head. I’m done with this team. I’m not going to one game this year in protest.

Don’t be surprised if Chipper’s next.

By southerncomfort

February 20, 2009 2:34 PM | Link to this

You know what? Smoltz agreed to certain contacts over the years w/ the Braves. They compensated him for services rendered as required in the contract…no more, no less. At the end of a contract, both sides re-evaluate. The last contract was satisfied by both parties by meeting contractural requirements. It’s done. Move on.

By shawn

February 20, 2009 2:35 PM | Link to this

Smoltz, referring to Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Javy Lopez, Gary Sheffield, J.D. Drew, Jones and Furcal, among others……

And exactly which one of those players had a better year after they left? NONE you idiot. Griffey will be mediocre and Smoltz MIGHT get 5 wins so what the hell did we lose? Maybe the Braves know a little more than a washed up fool behind a typewriter about the business for running a baseball team.

By the way what happened to your annual Griffey wants to play here routine … lol. You are a moron.

By Will

February 20, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

C’mon, enough already! Smoltz had a choice (to stay). Didn’t the Braves pay him $14 mil last year for 28 innings of work at age 40. He had a choice to stay. Just come out and say it’s about money Smoltz. Don’t hide or spin it that the organization doesn’t care or doesn’t communicate. I find it amazing that in today’s economic times, people say, “what’s with the team not offering a couple million dollars more”. Hello, did you just hear what came out of your mouth. Why pay a 41 year old pitcher who isn’t going to start pitching until June (his admission) this year with no gurantee he is going to be effective? The bottom line is, Smoltz had the choice. He made it but finds it necessary to continue to defend his choice to protect his Atlanta legacy. It’s hypocritical at best and disingenuous to anybody with a brain.

By UGA Fan

February 20, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

Terence, I don’t see how you can say that the Braves didn’t want his arm after two decades of excellence. He had his great Cy Young year and then a few great years as the closer. Other then that, he was good but not great. He was very injury proned and had many DL stints. The Braves were more faithful to him then any other team would probably have been considering the numerous surgeries and DL stints. The Braves offered, and John left for more money, plain and simple. Seems to me, he was the one who wasn’t loyal. I say good riddance and I hope the Red Sox enjoy his few starts in between DL appearances.

By Mike

February 20, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

OH. I forgot to say in my previous blog, maybe we can reactivate Justice and Grissom. That is what you always thought was the answer to the Brave’s problems.

By Mikey Mike

February 20, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: Smoltz will experience remorse, the Red Sox will NOT be as good as they were last year, the Dodgers will suck (bad Karma) , Mike Hampton won’t make it past May (anybody can come up with that one), Andruw Jones will end up on the Braves after failing his Texas audition and . who else? Aj Burnett? Not as good as Lowe. Period. Just isn’t the right fit for the Braves. Lowe is.

Just because you can rattle off a bunch of names, that doesn’t mean that they did good when they left. Glavine had one good year. Glad he’s back, but that’s a fact. Andruw? How’d he do? Furcal had a decent year , then not so great, then worse, plus he’s got a bad back to go with his bad Karma (a man’s word is all he’s got in my book). Griffey? I guess we’ll see. Not rooting against him, but I do think he’ll be remorseful , too.

The one that I was upset at for leaving was JD DREW. He was a good one and did do well when he left, but continued to get hurt and never plays a full year. He averaged 110 games over the last 4 years (64 RBIS each of the last two years?) Need more than that for the money he was asking.

Lighten up. This management is essentially the same brain trust that got us 14 straight. My only concern is what happens ONCE we get in the playoffs.

101-61. Write that down.

By Al Sharpton

February 20, 2009 2:37 PM | Link to this

Forget about left field. Get rid of the writers like Terence Moore and we will improve another ten wins.

By BravesFan79

February 20, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is right, and i give the man nothing but credit for spurning higher offers all these years and sticking with the Braves!

The Braves need to stop this stupid policy of no negotiations during the year and face the facts that once a player hits free agency and gets more $$ thrown at him, hes likely gone.
We lost Smoltz AND Ohman because of this dumb policy!

Paula: Smoltz’s opinions will ALWAYS matter! Hes the Brave of all Braves, a Hall of Famer of Hall of Famers! more Heart than a Ken Griffey Jr, more ethics than a Roger Clemens or a BarryBonds, more loyalty than a A-Rod…. when you think of Heart, Determination, and Skills, you think of Smoltz!!
Cant wait to see you pitch in the playoffs again Smoltzie!! Go Braves, go Red Sox!!

By Long time fan

February 20, 2009 2:38 PM | Link to this

John’s no longer a Brave. I am more interested in hearing about the new Braves than this old rehash.

By dap01

February 20, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this

Just because Smoltz left doesn’t mean that something is wrong with the Braves. Overpaying for Smoltz is something that only 1 club would do. Is something wrong with the other ML clubs. Everyone mentioned in this article only went to one other club, does that mean that all other clubs are failures. With each person who rejected the Braves, there were compelling arguments for the Braves to not even go after the player.

I love Smoltz, but he is proving to be a whiner. He may even be watching the playoffs from home this year. (Either because of injury or because Boston does not go).

What is the purpose of this blog?

By JEB

February 20, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this

There is the “game / sport” of baseball and then there is the “business” of baseball.

They are two completely different animals - yet they have to work together. The balance between the two are hard to work out when there is an entity in Colorado (or Time Warner for a few years) that give you budget restrictions to work within.

We could have resigned Furcal and beat out LA’s bid - but would it have been worth it?? Who then would we have missed out on - cut - let go??

We basically swapped Burnett for Lowe - and my bet is when the year is over - Lowe will be better!

We could have beat Boston’s bid for Smoltz - yet we don’t know how he is going to come back. Boston is letting him sit until June - July - we don’t have that luxury. If we outbid Boston - then who do we sacrifice to pay Smoltz??

We lost out on Griffey - it wasn’t the offer - it was for his legacy - and for the same reason every great player likes to go home and retire (Glavine - Niekro, etc.)

We let Andruw go - what did we lose?

Maddox left (would have been nice to have him around - but who and how many would we have let go for him??)

It’s the sport AND the business! You have to make BOTH work together and try to win.

It’s a tough business - would be great if we had the Yankees money to work with - we don’t! So, we have the situation(s) we have had to deal with.

By BravesFan79

February 20, 2009 2:41 PM | Link to this

Paula: do us all a favor and go back to the home and garden section of the ajc, where you might actually know wtf your talking about.

By xsmoltzfan

February 20, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this

First off if Griffy lets what a writer says determine his choice of places to play then we didn’t need him. Smoltz was paid $500,000 dollars per inning last year and should just shut up and move on.

By GeorgiaDuck

February 20, 2009 2:42 PM | Link to this

Enough already with Smoltz. He took the money and left for Boston. Why should the Braves try to sign all these old players anyway? Focus on the future Mr. Moore.

By AthensAlabamaBrave

February 20, 2009 2:43 PM | Link to this

Financially, it has been a down hill spiral since Ted Turner sold out. Wren’s only got a little over a year under his belt. He’s not too blame for last year. The teams financial circumstance is only to blame for the misfortunes of this year. Face it, Atlanta is not the place to play for financial gain. So far this off season I am pumped about the chances for this very young team. Let the youth play as they did in ‘95 when Chipper, Javy, Klesko, and ran all the way to the ONLY WS victory during the 14 year stretch. Go with the As Is Braves and enjoy watching them be hungry and mature! Let’s go Braves fans! Your looking at a Braves team you can recognize for YEARS to come.

By Chris G.

February 20, 2009 2:44 PM | Link to this

Sometimes it’s just time to rebuild and move on. Give the young guys a chance to shine for once. We need to stop depending on these old washed up veterans. I loved watching Tampa Bay play last year. Young guys play with more passion then Vets because they are trying to prove they belong. They haven’t earned that big contract yet. The Braves got old so it’s time to reload and we got plenty of talent in our farm system to do it. We just have to stop trading it away for injury plagued vets. I would rather watch a bunch of young exciting players give it their all instead of watching a bunch of old vets almost make the playoffs every year. It’s good to have a few vets like Chipper Jones for club leadership but we need youth. So what if we don’t have Griffey. He will surely be disabled by mid season. We got four or more young outfielders that are perfectly healthy and surely can hit for a better average than Griffey’s 249 average last year. We didnt need Glavine back. We would have had a good enough rotation without him and we could have used that money elsewhere. So lets get out to the ball park and support these braves and lets hope our management gives these youngsters a chance. It worked before so why not again.

By Rick

February 20, 2009 2:45 PM | Link to this

It’s a very simple answer. Ted’s gone. The team is owned by a Corporation with no identity and not a tinkers damn about the game, the players and the fans. Ted may have been crazy but he was a good crazy!

By tvsportscaster

February 20, 2009 2:46 PM | Link to this

A few things for you Terrence about this off-season. The Braves by everyone’s estimation had the best package on the table for the Padres, and their front office was just plain dumb and kept asking for me, before Wren finally got tired of them and told them to buzz off. Not Wren’s fault there. Case Number 2, A.J. Burnett, well, let’s see there was only a 2 and a half million dollar difference between the Braves offer and the Yankees offer and when you factor in the cost of living in New York compared to Atlanta, then money obviously was a factor, what was a factor is that Burnett’s wife doesn’t fly so they went with the city closest to their home in Baltimore, again not Wren’s fault. Case Number 3, Rafael Furcal, one Furcal’s agents lied and used the Braves. They agreed to the terms but in the end, took those terms back to get more money out of the Dodgers, again not management’s fault. Case Number 4, John Smoltz, well, Smoltz deserves some of the blame in this case. The Braves had said all summer long, that they would re-sign him when they were comfortable he was healthy, especially after getting burned last year who could blame them for taking that approach. Bottom line is Smoltz can’t impatient needed his ego stroked and took the Red Sox offer, which the Braves couldn’t afford to do if he wasn’t going to pitch. And finally Case Number 5, Griffey. Well, the Braves did not pursue Griffey, he instead called the Braves and then that’s when Atlanta made an offer, they all believed he was coming, but because his agent wanted him to come Seattle the whole time and his family evidently didn’t mean as much to him as he said then he opted for legacy over convenience. Again not Wren’s fault. So next time you start wondering whether or not the Braves have trouble closing a deal perhaps you should way all the factors first.

By Mr Fury

February 20, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this

I love the way the Braves do business. If you don’t like it then go to Boston, NY or where ever you want. Personally, I love the way the Marlins do business for the most part and would rather us be like them than the yankees!

By algonquin J. Calhoun

February 20, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this

so, turning down 23 million dollars more from the Yankees to sign with the miserable Braves is not good enough for you redneck bumpkins. You inbred imbeciles think Smoltz should have turned down millions more to stay with the penurious, stingy, parsimonious losers he’s been with twenty years. What a bunch of morons! All you turds would kill your own mother for a lot less than a million bucks. You hypocrites shut your mouths! Smoltz did the right thing for himself and his family and that’s all that matters. The braves are a lousy team in a lousy game in a lousy city with lousy fans.

By chuck

February 20, 2009 2:48 PM | Link to this

I would say it is more likely SOMETHING’S RIGHT with the Braves. For instance, in Tom Glavines’s last 5 years with the Braves, he averaged nearly 18 wins per season. In his 5 seasons with the Mets, he averaged 12 WINS per season. Quite a drop off.

Furcal had 1 good year with the dodgers but his SB total dropped significantly as did his average the 2nd year.

Andrew Jones? PLEASE

Javy Lopez? Again, 1 good year with the O’s but even then his HR total dropped almost by half and by 2 thirds the second year there with his BA dropping by 50 points.

Sheffield and Drew were both problems in the clubhouse and now Shef has been accused of doping. Drew..has he ever played a complete season?

Even the great one Greg Maddux never had an ERA under 4.0 in a complete season after he left the braves. He only had ONE WINNING SEASON after he left also.

It looks to me like the Braves learned a VALUABLE lesson from Kenny Rogers. They know when to hold ‘em and know when to fold ‘em.

As for Smoltzie, he has ALWAYS been one of my FAVORITES on the Braves, but if he keeps up the trash talking, he will be dead to me. Let’s FIRST see if he actually pitches in a game this year before paying any attention to what he has to say. I understand that he is bitter. After all, he just had his 100th major surgery and he’s 43, but the Braves SHOULD have shown loyalty by trying to sign him…oh yeah THEY DID. Stop whining Smoltzie, you got what you wanted…MONEY. I guess what you REALLY miss about Atlanta is Ted Turner’s DEEP POCKETS.

By TM

February 20, 2009 2:48 PM | Link to this

Now this is a productive article.

I will also take it a step further from the players. There has also been several in the front offices of the Braves organization that have let over the last few years too.

When the Braves were losing 90+ games a year, the front office was treating it’s players well. When the Braves were winning 90+ games a year, they were asking their players to take less money. Now when the Braves struggle to win between 80-90 games a year, players use the Braves to get a better contract with another team.

It’s all about a philosophy to treat people well and win. This front office doesn’t get it.

By Andy

February 20, 2009 2:49 PM | Link to this

Guess what Smoltz. You did leave the Braves. Glavine and you were told the team would wait to see if you were healthy before being offered a contract. You left when you felt “disrespected” by actually having to earn a lot of your money. If you felt you were going to be healthy, what was the problem with the deal? You left for an easier payday, and a chance to get to the World Series. I don’t have a problem with that, but quit crying like you were a victim. It’s getting old.

Terry, you mean JS isn’t the great JS? I thought he was god or something. But you said the Braves were a classy organization? You mean you lied?

Guess what? Management can only work with a budget the owners approve. If you have a problem with it, BUY THE TEAM and spend tons of cash to improve the team. I’m sorry, I don’t fault JS or FW that much for trying to work with a lesser amount of money than they had when Ted Turner owned the team. They do the best they can with the money they have.

Terry, how about a relevant article on someone who actually plays for the Braves. Lets quit living in the past shall we?

By Jim

February 20, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

It would have been nice to have Smoltz finish his career as a Brave but the Red Sox overpaid by a lot for a guy who may not be ready until June or July. I guess the thing that is wrong with the Braves business approach is they do not have as much money as the Red Sox. If they did have more money then they could stockpile a bunch of their older players. Personally, given the fact that they have a highly rated minor league system, I would prefer that they play more young players.

By Joe

February 20, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this

I am just very disappointed in these spoiled, overpaid athletes that get large contracts to play a game they love, yet when they get hurt, they still draw those big salaries when they are injured. The teams, their employers, then have to sign another player and pay them to play in their place, then when their contracts are over, players like Smoltz and Hampton, especially Hampton, who did not play much too earn their salaries, just walk away to play for other teams for more money and not give their old teams that paid them while they were injured some credit in their discussions for a new contract. These rough economic times are going to bring these athlete’s salaries crashing down as a lot of major league teams of every sport could be going belly up and soon. Some fans are no longer able to pay the high prices to attend live games and when the TV media start pinching pennies and their mega contracts with sports teams terminate, renewals will be at a much lower rate.

By tm sucks

February 20, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this

Cant believe you still have a job after the whole griffey thing congrats on being the worst writer in atlanta.

By M. Price

February 20, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this

Fire Terence Moore

By Jason

February 20, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this

Personally, part of me is a little relieved that the braves do not have to rely on 2 40 somethings to fill out 40% of their starting rotation. Their comes a time where a team has to move on and this was it! That is the reality of the situation.

By Denny

February 20, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

TM - you may have writing skils, but your analysis of player quality and you business acumen is truly lacking. I have never seen a writer so locked into “has beens” - whether its Smoltz, Knight or Notre Dame.

THe world and sports move - I suggest you do the same!

By one fan

February 20, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

If the Braves had signed all of those players that got away, they would have had a payroll like the hated Yankees. None of those greedy ba$t@r&s is worth the money. I’m glad the Braves haven’t overpaid for a slew of mediocre talent with zero heart and no love of the game. I threw a party when Hampton took the Astros money and walked. All of these guys should make a base salary and make huge bonuses based on performance. If that were the case, many of these so called “Superstars” would be at the bottom of the pay scale.Wren is getting lucky that a bunch of “has beens” are choosing to limp to other organizations. Let the kids play!!!!!

By Butch Haynes

February 20, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

Gotta love Smoltz’s rationale: I left, therefore there must be something wrong with the Braves. What a humble guy.

By Ron Roberts

February 20, 2009 2:59 PM | Link to this

Like many Braves fans, I was angry at the way Frank Wren and the Braves’ management team bungled the John Smoltz signing; but I, too, am getting more than a little tired of continually hearing from John Smoltz.

John, you chose to leave for a few more bucks. I won’t begrudge you of that - most people would do that every time they’re given the chance, everything being equal. But don’t bolt for more dough, then trash-mouth the franchise you spent nearly 20 years pitching for to try and portray that your departing is a personal godsend. You enjoyed it - we enjoyed it - the franchise enjoyed it.

It’s over; go pitch and talk allllll about Boston and the Red Sox now, but try and be an adult about it. Can you say great things about your new organization, city and team without taking personal digs at your former home and team? Sheesh.

It’s a fact of life these “uber-sensitive” jocks don’t seem to understand - the Braves just don’t have the same amount of money to spend on salary as the Yankees, Angels, Mets, Red Sox and Dodgers. Not “matching” those spend-happy franchises ISN’T an insult (John); it’s the way the system is. So stop being “insulted” when Atlanta can’t match their offers. They made an offer that made sense to their financial domain - they did so knowing they had many other needs than placating an aging legend-veteran with one more multi-million dollar season as a swan song.

I’m gonna miss your work ethic and your passion and your pitching ability - but for the love of God - shut up. You’re making yourself look like the whiny jilted, just-dumped ex who can only spew venom at history rather than reflect more fondly on it. Grow up.

By Jeff R

February 20, 2009 3:01 PM | Link to this

Gee, not exactly rocket science here. Media Liberty owns the Braves because of benefits derived from the stock swap with Time-Warner. Liberty Media cares as much about the Braves as it cares about Quaker Oats.

Team management is under constrains from a indifferent ownership. Leadership always starts at th top.

The company is holding the team only because Commissioner Selig made that a condition of the swap. Liberty Media was required to hold the team five years. When the time runs out, expect them to sell the Braves ASAP.

By chuck

February 20, 2009 3:01 PM | Link to this

Obviously its a problem the Braves need to get a new owner thats not affraid to open up the pocket book and get rid of some of those guys in the front office.

Are you KIDDING ME?

Smoltz got paid $428,000 PER FREAKIN’ INNING LAST YEAR. Where is HIS LOYALTY?

They just signed Frenchy to a contract that is equivalent to $306,000 per homerun hit last year.

ALL OF THESE GUYS ARE WAY OVERPAID

It cost me over $250.00 to take my son to a game last year. Here’s an idea. CUT ALL OF THEIR SALARIES BY PUTTING A MANDATORY SALARY CAP ON EVERY TEAM. MAKE THE CONTRACTS NON-GUARANTEED LIKE FOOTBALL. THEN you cun cut ingrates like MIKE HAMPTON, instead of wasting all of that money rehabbing him to pitch for somebody else.

By getnathan

February 20, 2009 3:02 PM | Link to this

It made no sense for Braves to sign a pitcher to that much money and he wasn’t going to pitch until close to the All Star Break. Red Sox have that luxury to wait. Braves don’t. Simple as that.

By Zach

February 20, 2009 3:02 PM | Link to this

Uh, of course people won’t take less money when we’re not the perennially winners we used to be. I believe we set a record for consecutive division titles. Meaning no one else has ever done that. You can’t win forever. The Yankees keep throwing money down the toilet because they can’t accept that fact. Down years happen.

If the Braves start winning again, people will take less money to play for us. Bottom line. We’ve been going through a transition period: the 90s era of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz to the new era of McCann, Jurrjens, Hanson, Escobar…

Unfortunately our fan base has been so spoiled, they panic during the transition years. Of course the front office knows what they’re doing. They didn’t just forget how to do their jobs after 15 years of excellence. Calm down, everyone. The sky isn’t falling.

Oh, and John, you DID leave Atlanta. We offered you practically the same to pitch, just not as much NOT to pitch. Don’t play the victim.

By McRly?

February 20, 2009 3:03 PM | Link to this

Hated to see Smoltz go, and it sure does sound like he really felt like he should be here instead of Boston. But I wanted Smoltz to retire, and if he didn’t, I wanted him somewhere he’d have a real shot at nailing down a WS ring. I think he’s in that place. I do not think ATL was that place. For my money, there hasn’t been a better pitcher during the entirety of his era, but alas that time is over. But on to BUSINESS: Smoltz may make it a season, he may not. Letting Smoltz walk for bigger money may be the dumbest thing we’ve ever done, or it might turn out to make business sense, if he can’t toe the rubber due to injury. Man I love the guy, and I wish they would have paid him to stay, but Wren is trying to do his JOB, which is put together the best ball club he can… I’m not gonna witchhunt the guy because he failed to give 5mil + incentives to a 40 something pitcher coming off a series of shoulder/arm/elbow injuries. You can’t lambaste the guy for that. Glavine is a much safer, if not much more conservative, gamble. Yes, his age is equally high, but he’s never been on the DL ever except for last year, and he took a smaller deal. Gotta do what you gotta do folks, and I’m sorry Smoltz is upset. I hope someday soon he can reflect on his years here with pride and honor, and not the innuendo of bitterness and venom the likes of what we’re starting to hear now.

By Ken Stallings

February 20, 2009 3:04 PM | Link to this

Terence, you might be hitting the nail plumb. No one in baseball thinks anything less about Bobby Cox. And one can judge the city by the number of players from all sports who purchase homes and retain them even after they leave their respective Atlanta team or retire.

So, that leaves the facilities and ownership. Anything wrong with Turner Field? Nope, it’s a fair ballpark. It isn’t skewed crazily toward hitters or pitchers. It is pitcher friendly but not excessively so.

That leaves ownership and its senior management. Ergo, you are right. Corporate ownership is questionable at best, but the situation the Braves have experienced is truly terrible. It’s a hodgepodge of confusion. Terry McGurk is owner pro templar, if that title makes any sense. In lieu of faceless Liberty Mutual, McGuirk is supposed to make the baseball decisions, but does he really control the purse strings?

As nice as the rotation ended up being, the loss of Smoltz is still going to hurt. Smoltz has such an upside in leadership, competitive spirit and flexibility to pitch as a starter, in long relief, and closing. He’s also a workhorse and the Braves needed to keep him not out of sentiment, but cold appreciation for the man’s skills.

By chuck

February 20, 2009 3:04 PM | Link to this

Smoltz did the right thing for himself and his family and that’s all that matters.

Apparently YOU are the imbecile. I don’t have any problem with Smoltzie making whatever decision he wants to make. What I have a problem with is him spending the month AFTER that decision FREAKIN’ WHINING ABOUT IT. hE IS THE ONE WHO SHOULD shut up! AND YOU SHOULD JOIN HIM.

By Turnin2

February 20, 2009 3:05 PM | Link to this

Geez — can’t the AJC get over John Smoltz? What went wrong is he left for MONEY - and a chance to NOT have to EARN it!

Fans are so over this guy and yet every chance you get you (AJC) keep throwing him in our face — WE DO NOT CARE ANYMORE!!!!!!! HE IS WITH ANOTHER TEAM - let them worry about him…

let it go AJC…. let it go

By tsmith

February 20, 2009 3:06 PM | Link to this

Terence Moore should be FIRED

By Tonia

February 20, 2009 3:06 PM | Link to this

The ownership and management within the Braves camp is not good, and it’s been that way for years. Smoltz is absolutely correct, there needs to be change and soon.

By BartBuzz

February 20, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

I’m actually relieved that Wren’s so-called “deals” fell through. Smoltz was one of my favorite Braves and maybe that was my only disappointment. But I can’t blame the Braves. And if Glavine gets hurt, the cost to the Braves will be far less than last year. I agree with earlier posts about ex-Braves who never equalled their production after leaving the organization. It’s time for the front office to get back to the basics that led to 14 Division titles. Let our prospects develop and draft some good arms. If the Braves had done that 3 or 4 years ago, the team would still be competitive. But I guess the biggest change has been the loss of money. Say what you will about Ted Turner…he always spent what he could to keep the team together. I hope they try to keep Chipper.

By TM

February 20, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

F* Glavine.

All you Smoltz haters can are crazy.

The Braves chose to keep a pitcher who was hurt for the first time in his career over someone who knows how to deal with injuries and still perform great.

The Braves chose a pitcher who already spurned them once in a bitter money battle over a pitcher who gave them 20 years of service, loyalty and less money than he could have earned elsewhere.

The Braves chose an aging veteran pitcher who has contempt for Braves fans and some fans contempt for him over a veteran pitcher who is beloved by EVERY Braves fan (before he signed w/ Boston).

The Braves chose a pitcher who is only concerned about “how much it’s worth to him to play for this team…” over a pitcher who would run through a brick-wall to pitch for this team and manager.

These are all facts. Another fact, the Braves made the wrong choice when it came to these two aging veteran pitchers.

By GT

February 20, 2009 3:08 PM | Link to this

The overall point this column is trying to make is quite valid, even though some of the facts cited here don’t really support the argument:

I don’t think many people in the Braves organization of the fanbase are too upset over “losing” Andruw Jones to the Rangers. Second, choosing not to sign players once they become free agents is a strategic route the Braves decided to go with Maddux, Drew, Furcal, etc. This wasn’t a decision by those players to leave. The door to staying here was bascially closed on them.

That said, there is most definitely something to be said for players not wanting to come here, especially when the Braves pursue them as vigorously as we saw this winter. The Braves made offers to at least a half dozen free agents this offseason, but were accepted by only two: Greg Norton and David Ross. Not exactly the caliber we need to win a championship. I think that speaks very clearly to player preference, and the Braves failure as an organization to field a competitive product.

By SR

February 20, 2009 3:08 PM | Link to this

Well said Terrence, 100% spot on. How can there even be any rational dispute about this, of course the Braves are at fault. What is the one common thread here, it is Management, as represented by either Frank Wren or the entire Management team. Doesn’t take a Rocket Scientist to figure out that when, what is the count up to now, 5 or is it 6 players decide that they want to play elsewhere, someone is not as adept at negotiating as they should be, that is, if their intent is to sign the aforementioned players. Smoltz simply affirmed what a lot of us have recognized for quite some time, that is, the bloom has long been off the rose.

By C'mon man

February 20, 2009 3:08 PM | Link to this

Why da ** are we still talkin about Smoltz??? And why does Smoltz keep giving these interviews? Is he still heart broken about not being hear that he keeps coming out and criticizing the organization. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Braves for not giving old guys who aren’t in their primes anymore the money that they believe they are worth. I think that people in the media is blowing this out of proportion.

I wouldn’t have gave Griffey what Seattle is promising him, and I definitely wouldn’t have given Smoltz what the Red Sox gave him. Glavine started to balk about the money and I guessed realized the truth. I’m predicting that this is the last year you see the Braves in this situation with the off-season because our farm system has just about developed at positions we will need. I can’t wait to see what our young guys bring to the table. The past two seasons with Smoltzie the Braves went nowhere, the next time he gives an interview ask him what that was

By BamaBrave

February 20, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this

Nice try, Smoltz. But I ain’t buying it. It’s not about coughing up more money every time a player reaches free agent status. We have these things in real life called budgets, and the idea is to operate a business within them. Some players are worth the extra money, some aren’t. Face it, oh Holy One…you aren’t worth the risk anymore, and your ego is having a rough time accepting that.

So keep talking. When a reporter calls, give him or her an earful. When you see a microphone, please continue making a bee line to it. Eventually, you’re going to give your old team and fans some truly good bulletin board material, and you’ll be back here in July. We’ll be waiting.

By Spud Webb

February 20, 2009 3:10 PM | Link to this

BravesFan79 we didnt lose Ohman, if you noticed he’s still a FA. Nobody is beating down the door to sign him and last checked the Braves still have an offer for him. At this point, we don’t need Ohman, the bullpen will be a strenght (thats wierd to write)!!!!! I like the folks saying the braves are cheap??? How much did we just spend on Lowe? How much on the import?? How much do we owe Vazquez? Far from cheap, economical is more like it. Smoltz = Sellout. Bottom line, still would’ve loved him until he spouts off with all of this stuff. Please, please move to Boston John, stay there.

By PTBNL

February 20, 2009 3:12 PM | Link to this

Sour grapes after the Braves didn’t get your idol? So you run to Smoltz to try to get back at the Braves?

I have never written anything negative in any of your blogs and often wondered why so many were so negative toward you. I still think much of it was way overboard, but this article really is not cool.

I have like Smoltz for a long time, but he is way out of line with what he is doing. He should have never talked to you about the Braves. And before that, he should have just left if he wanted to leave.

Back when he it was reported that he was handing out a DVD of his first pitching session, I said that I would be disappointed in Smoltz if he left the Braves. And I was and still am. I don’t care what Smoltz says, he did NOT have to leave. It was a CHOICE.

At that point I was disappointed, but when he chose to run his mouth about it and continue to try to show himself in a good light while trying to make the Braves to look bad, I was not only disappointed, but I lost respect for him.

Some have pointed out that the circumstances of the many who have left because of money were not as bad as Smoltz nor you have tried to paint them. It is true of Smoltz as well. I honestly do not know all that went on and Smoltz may have some legitimacy to have left, but nothing he has said has given any legitimacy yet. If there is a legitimate reason then either let it be known or keep quiet.

At the beginning of the off-season Wren made it plain that he was interested in both Smoltz and Glavin, BUT that his priority was to get 2 front of the rotation pitchers and a LF power bat. When Smoltz started pushing the Braves for commitment, they were not near completing their goals so that they could know what they could even begin to offer Smoltz. His timing was such that he was being a detriment to the process of compiling the best team for HIM to be a part of.

Strange thing that is! People talk of what Smoltz has given the Braves, but rarely is it realized what he got from the Braves. Had he not been on the Braves team when they were able to spend so much more money than most of the teams, would he have had the opportunity to be the winningest pitcher in the postseason? By no means! Without that exposure he would not be even as attractive to Boston now. He got that exposure because he was playing with the Braves. It is not one sided as it is often presented. Smoltz received much by playing for the braves. How many other teams would have let him chose starting or closing, etc. He even got an exception for having facial hair. Not that that is a big deal, but he is acting like a spoiled brat. Maybe Bobby helped to make him that way. I don’t know.

At any rate, he could have waited…. he did not. The Braves had made it clear that they had priorities. He did not honor those priorities. I say this not because of some feeling I have about it, but because it was reported early on that these things were so. Why did he push so soon? Why could he not understand why Wren was not paying him a lot of attention when he was trying to get things in order before he could negotiate with Smoltz?

How can he talk out of both sides of his mouth now? Even in this article he says “I did not leave the Braves” But later the article speaks thusly about what he said, “Smoltz used his free-agent right to ignore what he said was a lesser deal with the Braves to join the Red Sox.” He said he ignored a lesser deal to join the Red Sox. Ummm That is leaving the Braves, Smoltz.

The others that are mentioned in the article…. are we suppose to be so blind as to not be able to see that almost all (if not all) of the ones that are mentioned were on the downside of their careers and should not have gotten more money than they were offered. Others over-paid for them. Just as the Sox, in my opinion, over-paid for Smoltz. This is why I have less respect for Smoltz, because he bases respect on the amount of money someone offers him. It is an ego that has surprised me and has disappointed me.

By Dirty Dan

February 20, 2009 3:13 PM | Link to this

Hey let’s wait until the end of the season and see what the stats are for Hampton, Smoltz, Peavy, Burnett, Furcal, A Jones, Griffey and even Glavine. We will then know who was smart or stupid. Terrance you again disapoint me.

By Needy Athlete

February 20, 2009 3:14 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is becoming a tired act. The deals were basically the same and you chose to leave. Hell, long term the Braves offer would have paid him more (12 mill versus 10 mill from Boston). Notice that the Braves have moved on and don’t even bother to comment about him when he opens his mouth anymore. Seems like he wants to get into a he said/she said situation with the Braves and they won’t stoop to his level. Good for you Braves! Good riddance Mr. Smoltz!

By BMc

February 20, 2009 3:16 PM | Link to this

Sorry Smoltz, you chased the money and another chance at the world series. Stop trying to blame someone else. Seems to me like you’re just as unsure of whether you’ll pitch or not as everyone else. How much of the difference in money is going to your agent, taxes and living in Boston and Atlanta? I hope it was worth it for you John, but stop playing the martyr.

By chuck

February 20, 2009 3:16 PM | Link to this

BTW Smoltzie, while you were sitting on the bench last year, how many kids did you go out of your way to sign autographs for? How many times did you OR ANY OTHER OVERPAID CRYBABIES stay out on the field to sign autographs or just spend a couple of minutes talking to the fans?

You guys have become your own worst enemies. If ya’ll keep acting so high and mighty, you won’t have to worry about leaving the “fans”. They will leave YOU.

By chuck

February 20, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

The more I sit here thinking about this, the madder I get.

Do you know how many people are out of work in Georgia John? Do you even care? Then to sit there and complain because ONLY $5 Million was GUARANTEED!?!??!

By falconfan42

February 20, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

Anybody ever notice that TM never responds to bloggers…….. Wonder why……..*&%%^&&&>>>>>>>

By Rodney Black

February 20, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

Spud Webb??? can’t be your real name but you had the best comment on this page. I have always been a huge fan of Smoltz but this time I have an issue with him. As you said, “put big money into bad arms and hope”. We have to learn our lesson in this. I love Glavine too but for any more money, I’d have to let him go as well. I’m not going to go into all these numbers about the game but I am sick and tired of so many so called fans posting comments acting as if they know more than Braves management. Same goes for the AJC. Our Atlanta newspaper is the joke of the nation! Whether it’s sports, finance, or general news, the AJC can never get it right (spelling, incorrect info, yadda, yadda). People! Talk about something you actualy know, Instead of pretending!

By DOUG FRESH

February 20, 2009 3:24 PM | Link to this

WHAWWWW!! IM JOHN SMOLTZ, I DESERVE THE WORLD, WHAWWW!! I LOVE JOHN SMOLTZ AND EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE FOR THE BRAVES BUT ENOUGH ALREADY. WE NEEDED TO MOVE ON AND SO DID YOU. HOW MUCH MONEY DID THE BRAVES SCREW YOU FOR??? YOU SURE DO HAVE A NICE “LITTLE” HOUSE IN ATL. MORE THAN WE ALL HAVE, IM SURE. HE HAS BEEN WHINING FOR YEARS. YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER COG IN THE MACHINE AND YOU HAVE BEEN REPLACED! GET OVER IT!

By Steve

February 20, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this

I grew up with Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux and a host of others. I love those guys and they represent many good things about baseball. That being said, Smoltzie needs to shut his trap.

Look, baseball is a business. Just ask Smoltz himself, who dissed his lifelong team and fans for a piddly little amount of money in the overall scheme of things. I don’t begrudge Smoltz for going after the money, but to put down the Braves organization after doing so causes me to lose a ton of respect for the man.

Despite what all you Wren-haters might say, the Braves did the correct thing with Smoltz. He isn’t a VERY old pitcher, coming off yet another arm problem. You just don’t give people like that big money. Glavine accepted a deal very similar to what Smoltz was offered, and he will likely be able to pitch from the first week of the season, whereas Smoltz appears to be out thru the All-Star game.

Sorry John and Terrence, but the Braves, and Frank Wren, did EXACTLY what they should have done to try to put a winner on the field. Even if they don’t win, the cardinal sin as a baseball GM and manager is to lose with a bunch of aged veterans. If you don’t think the vets will give you a better shot at winning, then you should go for younger/cheaper players. It is a BUSINESS, not a hippy emotional seminar.

Furcal at what, 8 million a year, or Escobar at $450,000? I love Raffy, and I might consider him, but his skills have declined steadily, and he can’t stay healthy any more. Escobar is not as much of an offensive force at this time, but his defense is just as good and he still has the ability to improve, which Raffy won’t likely do at this stage of his career.

Smotlz for 1/2 season at best for $2 million plus incentives, or Glavine for $2 million plus incentives for the whole year? Smoltzie might still have his stuff, but how do we know? If not, Glavine has shown the ability to do more with less his entire career than Smoltz. I will take Glavine.

If you want a perfect example, just look at Andruw Jones. A seriously declining OF two years ago, the Braves chose not to throw money at him despite the majority of inner-perimeter fans thinking they should. The Dodgers basically bought him out of that contract because of how much they wanted to get rid of him. If you could pull up the blogs from around that time you will see that the majority of the fans were griping at the Braves for not signing him after 2007. I wonder what those people are thinking now?

What about Javy Lopez? Braves fans loved him and still do, but the Braves saw the writing on the wall and chose not to resign him. He went to Baltimore for big bucks and stunk up the place (my third favorite team is Baltimore behind Atlanta and Cincy, so I had double pain watching Javy stink, because I really like the guy). Was that a bad decision by the Braves? I didn’t think so.

What about Marcus Giles, Jeff Blauser, Greg Maddux? All guys who left for bigger money than the Braves thought they were worth .. and all guys the fans didn’t want to lose .. and all guys who never earned what they were given after they left the Braves (though I still would have overpayed to keep Maddux as I think he would have done better with the Braves than the sad sack Padres, for which he did earn his keep for the first couple of years).

Outside of possibly David Justice and Jermaine Dye, I can’t really think of any players the Braves have let get away that really should have been kept, and ended up playing as good or better after they left Atlanta. DeRosa did as well, but he stunk in Atlanta and we had Raffy, Giles and Chipper blocking him. How many big name Braves have we lost other than Dye and Justice who really earned their stay with other big league teams in the last 15 years?

By Bill

February 20, 2009 3:25 PM | Link to this

Terrence Moore got the story wrong. His name was on the byline of the article that told the world Griffey was coming to Atlanta. He got it wrong and now he wants to blame the Braves.

Moore has been screaming for the Braves to get Griffey for years. His wishful thinking got the best of him. Now he’s hiding behind John Smoltz to blame the Braves for his bad journalism.

By Jay Stiltner

February 20, 2009 3:26 PM | Link to this

Hope everybody read Jeff Schultz’s column on why Griffey ultimately chose Seattle over Atlanta. I think he brought some good perspective on why the Braves flopped on signing all these free-agents.

Now Terence Moore decides that he’ll write a column questioning the same thing - Braves’ front office and management. You may be onto something, Moore, but how about some original reporting? And, could you please leave John Smoltz out of it?

All you’ve managed to do is get people to start losing respect for Smoltz, who’s obviously an Atlanta icon. Dude’s done more for this city and franchise than most could ever dream of. And to those who are blasting Smoltz for being honest, it’s not his fault that Moore approached him with this garbage.

Look, Moore. I don’t know if you thought getting Smoltz and only Smoltz to comment would give you or your story credibility, but if that’s the case, you failed.

By Mark

February 20, 2009 3:32 PM | Link to this

1-AJC is not credible anymore.
2-Shut up Smoltz, we could care less what you and your pathetic arm feel. Go cry to the Boston media you ungrateful shmuck. 3-T.Moore: Keep up the crappy work! 4-I’m signing off this website for the last time right now. Goodbye AJC.COM

By chris

February 20, 2009 3:34 PM | Link to this

How much did Smoltz get paid last year not to pitch? and does he have to give that money back?

By fieldofdreams

February 20, 2009 3:38 PM | Link to this

Mr. Smoltz hauled in $14 million last year, to pitch only a few weeks. That was just long enough, coincidentally, for him to surpass 3000 strike outs, which, if he wasn’t already in the Hall, definitely punched his ticket to Cooperstown. Maybe if John hadn’t divorced his wife money wouldn’t be such a big issue for him? There’s real concern whether he can return to the pitcher he was before; We love you John Smoltz, and I suspect you’ll get another World Series ring this year, but we couldn’t afford to risk the 5-6 million you were going to cost, after losing so badly on you last year. When it’s all over, come back to where you belong and manage this team, would you, Smolt-Zeus?

By Pete

February 20, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this

Look……………Smoltz is a used up, washed up MLB pitcher. No way to sugar coat the truth. Cold hard facts. The Braves know his arm better than he pretends to. Get over it. Smoltz will try to pitch this summer, fail miserably, and make Frank Wren look like Thomas Dimitroff. Smoltz will be a colossal waste of money. Good riddance.

By K26dp

February 20, 2009 3:43 PM | Link to this

Any other perspectives? Did you interview Burnett or Furcal why they chose to go elsewhere? How about interviewing Lowe or Kawakami to get the perspective of free agents that DID sign with the Braves?

Just using Smoltz as a reference is bad form… he’s clearly bitter (and may have a right to be), but certainly there’s other perspectives that can be sought out for balance.

By Fortune teller

February 20, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

Terence,

You have the easiest job in the world.

Every player you mentioned is on the down side of their playing career. Some are down right washed up (Smoltz excluded).

The BRaves need to rebuild and play mediocre ball for 2 years while they put all the pieces back in place. They know a HELL of a lot more about how to run a MLB franchise than YOU do as they don’t have the luxury of perfect 20/20 hindsight vision and riding both sides of fences like you do.

MLB is not a sentimental game, it’s a cut throat business like all professional sports. And carrying Smoltz, Glavine, A.Jones, Javy Lopez, Maddux, etc in 2009 would be a total disaster. And Terence, if the Braves did do this and were 50 games back at the All-Star break, YOU would be writing the “I told you so” article on how the Braves front office needed to be more like businessmen, not sentimental pansys etc., etc.

Smoltz is outspoken and will regret everything negative that he says about the Braves (as Glavine did when he went to the Mets). I GUARANTEE IT. And unfortunately your phone interviews with him will provaoke a great deal of them. So you are not doing him any favors.

And Terence, when Smoltz does retire, YOU will have the power to build him up or tear him down based on your interview requests so you actually have the easiest job in the America. The easiest job in America for the easiest job in America. LOL.

By Random

February 20, 2009 3:47 PM | Link to this

“That leaves Braves ownership and management.”

Even though the Braves have had three different owners during the period in question?

And two different Team Presidents, and two different GMs?

Yeah, TM, riiight.

By JKP

February 20, 2009 3:47 PM | Link to this

The reason the Braves stayed so competitive for years was because they refused to overpay for talent, so they were able to retain the flexibility to get help when they needed it. The 14 year streak was a statistical anomaly, so it was bound to come to an end at some point.

What if the Peavy trade had gone through on San Diego’s terms, and Furcal, Griffey, and Smoltz had signed? The team still would not be a definite to take down the Phillies and the Mets. There is a very real possibility that 3 or 4 of those players could end up on the DL this year. And, San Diego was asking for way too much.

What if they had signed Burnett? The guy has made 30 starts twice in his entire career.

I think Wren’s problem so far has been that he wanted to make bad deals. I’m glad they all fell through. I think the Braves should have gone into full-on rebuilding mode as soon as the streak was over. They should have just admitted that they needed to be bad for a few years and re-tool.

That being said. The team that’s on the field now is definitely worth watching this year, and the future looks bright. That’s a heck of a starting rotation up there in Gwinnett this year. I’m going to have to check out a game some time.

By Andrew

February 20, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

John, I love ya but give it a rest. If this is such a terrible place to play, and the Braves scr** their players so badly, then why did Mr. Players Union himself Tom Glavine go out of his way to arrange a face-to-face meeting with Frank Wren to ensure his return? I think you’re listening a little too much to what your agent says. I wish you were coming back, but do you really have to go out and continue to trash the organization. Are the grapes really that sour for a multi-millionaire?

By Horner's Corner

February 20, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe your piece actually gripes about the Braves not re-signing Hampton or A. Jones. THANK GOD the Braves didn�t sign these absolute has been toolboxes.

As for A.J. Burnett, the guy wanted the pay grade of a #1 starter without the responsibility. And, he also stated that he didn�t enjoy the hitting aspect of the game. THANK GOD we didn�t sign this pampered toolbox.

Then there�s Mr. Smoltz. It always about what he sacrificed for the organization and what he forfeited financially. I wish Hoss would have split his lip a couple of years ago when Smoltzie was complaining about individual�s willingness to play hurt. THANK GOD I don�t have to spend half the season watching this washed up, bible thumping toolbox carry out the pre and post-game shows while he rehabilitates.

By DannyX

February 20, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

The club shows no loyalty to icons????

How about Smoltz shows no loyalty to the fans!!!!!

Super-rich John Smoltz , you know, the one who was paid MILLIONS last year by the Braves for sitting hurt on the bench for all but a few innings, sold out the fans and now bad-mouths the organization over what amounts to a few measly bucks.

Why do we accept this from prima-donna multi-millionaire ballplayers? Smoltz’s behavior has become bizarre.

By GTSteve

February 20, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

Smoltz was given a choice, he is the one who decided to sign elsewhere. It always amazes me when these atheletes say they don’t want to leave money on the table, but I’ll bet they are the first ones in line on payday when they are on the d/l. He got paid all that coin last year, but he only pitched a couple of months. Short memory=good riddance.

By In the know

February 20, 2009 3:53 PM | Link to this

Put me in the group that is sick and tired of John Smoltz and his opinions.

I was in a unique situation to know things about him that left me with a tremendous feeling of his being a total hypocrite. He is only interested in how “loved” he is from his stats to his hunger drives. Don’t get me wrong - he has a great record of charity work - but the guy is a 2 faced SOS in my book and he only proves my point (at least the media monger part) every time he opens his mouth.

By Dennis

February 20, 2009 3:56 PM | Link to this

This is old and boring. I, for one, am tired of Smoltz and his pushing blame to Braves management. Let’s face reality shall we? The Braves do not have the financial capability of the Red Sox (where Smoltz went and Drew is now) or the Yankees (where Burnett and Texeria went. The offered Furcal plenty, but he used the offer sheet to go where he wanted to go all along. Griffey was an afterthought and I think a mistake was made pursuing him. This misguided effort was based on the kind of criticisms here on this blog and from journalists like Moore. Fact is, Griffey is broken down and will only be useful as a DH. I have read numerous complaints on Seattle blogs about how his signing is going to stunt the development of younger players.

Smoltz is gone. I loved him when he was here, but he left for more money. Plain and simple. So be it, but leave it alone, John. You made a choice you had to, so quit with the bellyaching. If you stay healthy you may pitch in the playoffs. The big question is can you pitch without pain.

By hubris

February 20, 2009 4:01 PM | Link to this

This is just sad.

So, Griffey signs with another team, and, whether it’s a fair criticism or not, some believe that the AJC story which used Terrence Moore’s source is one of the reasons he seems to have changed his mind at the last minute.

And, of course now, Terrence Moore feels like he needs to justify himself by writing a column castigating the Braves’ front office, quoting one bitter legend who feels he was “disrespected” and even he himself cannot be 100% sure that he can perform down the stretch.

Please… Mr. Moore. Just shut up.

I don’t feel that your inaccurate, incomplete source of Griffey’s decision was the ultimate reason Griffey decided to go back to Seattle, but your attempts to justify your mistake by this column is just shameless. It’s really time for AJC to seriously consider severing ties with you.

By doug1016

February 20, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

the braves is not the yankees they have a budget to go by . when the players say its not about the money that b/s its all about the money . smoltz got more , furcal got more, junior got more an so on an so on. i dont blame the players or do i blame the braves. look how made the world series last year tampa bay an they had the lowest payroll in baseball . you cant but a world series you got to have good scouting an coaching in the minors. yes i agree the braves management isnt what is was in the past but that doesnt mean its a bad thing either. the braves have one an only one world series an other than smoltz none of those other players have so i say go bye an we bring in another crop who can

By Ed Norton

February 20, 2009 4:05 PM | Link to this

Glad to read that most Braves fans are starting to see John Smoltz for what he really is…a whiny, self-centered egotist. Except for Braves Fan 79, who is probably 40 and still lives in his mom’s basement.

By Paula

February 20, 2009 4:07 PM | Link to this

So, Terrence. How do you look in the mirror each day? You screwed the pooch with the Griffey story, allowed DOB to take the fall and then YOU turn around and write a story bashing the Braves. You’re an amateur and quite frankly, the AJC needs to fire you immediately.

By caz1158

February 20, 2009 4:14 PM | Link to this

As much as I appreciated all the HALL Of FAME performances Smoltzy had here in ATL,his comments do sound a little like sour grapes. Team owners & management set fourth a plan to upgrade the team with a set dollar figure (unlike our government,auto industry,& mortgage companies). While I don’t believe they were able to get who they intially wanted,but they did improve the roster. Smoltzy defection was a hard blow,and while I believe they miscalculated his desire to stay here. At some point the Braves had to cut the cord with the aging stars (I wish it had been Glavine instead).The names listed by Smoltz of players who have left have had mixed results with other teams. So how can he say owners & management may at fault? With salaries what they are, it can be argued that it made smart fiscal sense letting them leave. I wish Smoltz the best and thank him for his career here as a BRAVE.

By Reality Time

February 20, 2009 4:16 PM | Link to this

Since when is John Smoltz the ultimate source for all things Braves. Do you really think he is going to give an unbiased, impartial relating of the way things are? Is it the Gospel according to John. He’s gone now. Why I am seeing his face on the front page more now than I did when he was actually associated with the Braves. Get over it.

By Ken

February 20, 2009 4:16 PM | Link to this

It is a good article, especially from a fans standpoint. But I don’t care to criticize the management in 2009. Not with their salaries, not with their steroids, not with their non-allegence to a team (Smoltzies is the exception, Chipper, too). We’re root in most cases for a uniform and that uniform is making the same as Wall St. thieves. These players, in many cases, couldn’t hold a stick to some of the players of the past. better athletes, yes, better players, no. I will continue to watch baseball because it is unindoubtedly the best sport, however baseball needs to be torn down and built back up with people of integrity and with sportsmanship as it’s mantra. Selig, the union, the owners are dispictable human beings.

By Gray Mule

February 20, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

Time to move on. Atlanta has Glavin. They don’t need 2 old guys who may or may not be over the hill. For years, the Braves have guted their fine farm system to grab that “One” necessary high priced veteran to get them over the hump. It’s time to use our young farm guys and not give them away. A lot cheaper payroll. Young guys who are not as likely to end up on the injured list.

Gray Mule

By 35YrBravesFan

February 20, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

Oh stop! We are past smoltz. We know why he left, it was all about a ring.

This is SO OLD news.

By The_Truth

February 20, 2009 4:23 PM | Link to this

Hey, Smoltzie … it’s a business. You won’t win six games for the Sox this year. It’s you who is different. Family used to be important, but who cares about being around your kids, eh? Smoltz, you are a different person and you’re about to join the long litany of superstar athletes who didn’t know when to hang it up.

By the way, genius, did you not realize the Braves have been sold twice since you first joined the team?

By Get Real

February 20, 2009 4:28 PM | Link to this

I have 15 people in my community trying to find a job in order to feed and shelter their families. If you think for one instant that my heart bleeds for Smoltz, Glavine, Hampton, or any other of these overgrown babies, you’re wrong. How many millions does one person need? Constant whinning from these gazillionares makes me want to puke! None of them have any integrity. They are all thieves! And TM, you are the biggest jerk of all by giving them a forum to cry. These men deserve nothing!

By Yard Gnome

February 20, 2009 4:32 PM | Link to this

So Terence, you and DOB cost Griffey coming to Atlanta (or at least contribute to it) and then you want to villainize the Brave’s front office? Shame on you.

And Smoltz? Look pal, just stop before you ruin your legacy here. I can’t believe what’s coming out of your mouth. Relax, go to the beach. Fort Myers is a nice place. Turn off the phone and let Terence catch voicemail.

By Yard Gnome

February 20, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

So Terence, you and DOB cost Griffey coming to Atlanta (or at least contribute to it) and then you want to villainize the Brave’s front office? Shame on you.

And Smoltz? Look pal, just stop before you ruin your legacy here. I can’t believe what’s coming out of your mouth. Relax, go to the beach. Fort Myers is a nice place. Turn off the phone and let Terence catch voicemail.

By SCRusty

February 20, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

I guess Griffey can now join Smoltz and Moore in the biggest Drama Queen parade in sports history.

By richbrave

February 20, 2009 4:34 PM | Link to this

TMo:

Interesting….VELLY interesting.

By William

February 20, 2009 4:34 PM | Link to this

I think that Mr. Smoltz needs to attend to the business of the Red Sox. He decided to go to that team to win a championship. Good luck. However, Smoltz aso made his own decision to accept less money throughout the years. That was his choice. Now Smoltz is upset about the money that he left on the table. That is too bad. There is no need to come back with “sour grape” comments about the circumstances regarding other players the Braves tried to sign. Those players had other agendas…like Furcal…who may not have been fond of potentially playing second base for the Braves rather than shortstop for the Dodgers. Mr. Smoltz needs to go play ball for the Red Sox and leave the handling of personnel for the Braves to those people who are paid to do it. If not, Smoltz should moonlight as a part-time consultant.

By bvillebaron

February 20, 2009 4:37 PM | Link to this

No one is a bigger Smoltz fan than me. However, his post-departure comments about the Braves are becoming somewhat tiresome. I still think he left because he realized that, at his age, he has a limited window (maybe one year) to go for the brass ring and he had a much better chance to achieve that this year with Boston. I have no problem with that.

What John conveniently overlooks is that this team and particularly the pitching staff needs to be rebuilt and the season was basically over last year by May because he, Glavine and Hampton all missed most of last year (John also was paid $14 million last year to pitch 28 innings).

Finally, I also don’t recall reading anywhere that Smoltz ever gave the Braves the chance to match Boston’s offer before he signed. If he had, I would have less problems with his complaints.

By John

February 20, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is an ungrateful spoiled delusional cry baby. Terence Moore is an embarassment to the field of journalism. I’m done with pampered pro athletes and race baiting, undereducated journalists. I agree with Mark above on all points. Done with this fishwrap.

By cdog

February 20, 2009 4:41 PM | Link to this

THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WHAT I HAVE SAID ALL ALONG, THE BRAVES ARE NOT ABOUT WINNING ANY MORE. ITS ABOUT MONEY NOW. LOOK AT THE CONTRACT THEY GAVE KELLY JOHNSON, A PLAYER WHO CAN ‘T CATCH A SIMPLE POP UP. THERES A PLAYER OUT THERE LIKE XAVIER NADY WHOS GOING TO HELP NOW AND IN THE LONG RUN BUT THEY CHOOSE TO TRY TO BRING IN WASHED UP PLAYERS LIKE GRIFFEY AND FURCAL.GLAVINE IS FINISHED.THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE BRAVES OPERATING THE WAY THEY DO NOW.CLEAN OUT THE FRONT OFFICE AND GET RID OF THE SORRY PLAYERS CURRENTLY ON THE ROSTER LIKE FRANCOUER,KELLY JOHNSON, MATT DIAZ AND CHIPPER JONES WHO WILL BE HURT AND MISS 30-40 GAMES A YEAR. LETS GET BACK TO THINKING CHAMPIONSHIP AND STOP CONCEDING TITLES TO THE PHILLIES AND METS.IF A PLAYER IS A WINNER STOP WORRYING ABOUT MENEY AND BRING THEM IN LIKE JOHN SHUERHOLZ USE TO DO. UP.

By fordcobra

February 20, 2009 4:44 PM | Link to this

Smoltz, if you had wanted to be a Brave you would have been one. Glad we had you Glad you’re gone. Good Luck, Please let’s move the heck on!!!!!

By ATLawk

February 20, 2009 4:47 PM | Link to this

Well, of course what Smoltzie says is true even though greed did appear to play a role in his decision. Our owners are pinching pennies when compared to the Ted days. Unfortunately, it’s the nature of the business to prioritize around building for the future. Red Sox have a ton of money to burn so they can easily go out there and sign Smoltz for one year (even waive him if he doesn’t pan out). There shouldn’t be any hard feelings towards Smoltz and he should not have any animosity towards the organization. It is the no-face ownership that’s doing a disservice to the fans. I think Schuerholz and Wren would’ve resigned him in a heartbeat if they had the budget that Boston has.

By FJ

February 20, 2009 4:50 PM | Link to this

Any player who leaves any team for more money, is lying when he says he’s playing for the love of the game.

By Jason

February 20, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

John — enough already!!! You have proven that you are an egomaniac. We have heard it all before —- how everyone has doubted you and doubted you over and over and how you have persevered throughout your career despite all of it. Aren’t you tired of that story already? Believe me, if you would have left 10-13 years ago when you first became a free agent, do you think any team (Yankees, Red Sox, etc.) or fans would have put up with all of your time on the DL and signed you back for multiple contracts????

Please — you made your decision to play elsewhere, now just go away and do your thing and the Braves will do their own thing. The more you speak the more you come off as a spoiled/self centered athlete that is only interested in himself. Keep this up and all those BOOS you heard for Glavine when we was with the Mets will be quadrupled for you if you ever pitch at Turner Field again.

By Music City Dawg

February 20, 2009 4:53 PM | Link to this

Bring on the young talent. That is all.

By Phi

February 20, 2009 4:57 PM | Link to this

Yes, there seems to be an issue with Braves management but why is Smoltz still commenting about the Braves? It’s OVER - move on.

By Wes

February 20, 2009 4:58 PM | Link to this

The bottom line is that Smoltz was more valuable to the Red Sox given their rotation and ability to let him rehab and be ready for mid-season and the playoffs. The Braves needed him in the rotation immediately and produce innings all year. His value to the Red Sox is higher than the Braves could pay.

Good luck to Smoltz, the Sox, and the Braves. Everyone did what they had to do and no one was wrong.

By Jimmy

February 20, 2009 5:00 PM | Link to this

What about all the money we paid him while he was hurt? I always loved Smoltzie and was devastated when he left. I am starting to change my opinion of him.

By Reality Time

February 20, 2009 5:00 PM | Link to this

Smoltz should learn from Brett Farve’s mistakes and shut his mouth. Bad mouthing your previous team is like talking trash about your ex-wife, only means you made bad decisions.

By Just Junk

February 20, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

This article is written by a biased sportswriter quoting a currently bitter player.

I also feel the front office doesn’t handle things most of the time on the surface as I would like to see, but I don’t know all the details. I’m not going to defend all the bonehead moves they have made over the years either.

However, ANY dealt for black player would be a success to this writer and one letting him go would be a travesty.

I think John Smoltz’s contributions and loyalty had earned him the right to finish his career in Atlanta at pretty much his own price, but I hate to see him turn bitter and ruin his feelings with and from Atlanta.

Bottom line: One cannot possibly lump all the players cited above as errors on the part of the club. Some of those (Maddux) were never given a chance to resign (to my dismay); others were run off. So to lump them all together and say they chose to leave (insinuating the money was the same when it was not) is inaccurate at best. To be written by a journalist who knows better it is unethical!

By Keith Dismuke

February 20, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this

I’ve always liked Smoltz, but the more he talks about how & why he left the more it sounds like sour grapes on his part. Or at least that how he sounds in this piece.

By JP

February 20, 2009 5:08 PM | Link to this

This article is vintage Moore, idiotic. No where does he mention that they won the bidding war for Lowe and Kawasaki (yes, I know that’s not right but I can’t spell the guys name) or the various other free agents they’ve brought in over the years. Like it or not, Atlanta isn’t a major market like NYC, LA, or Chicago. Smotzie should shout the f#$% up and go have some chowda. I predict he pitches a total of 40 innings in 2009.

By Mark

February 20, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

Smoltz— Will you ever shut up??? I am losing more and more respect for you by the day…And by the way, you did leave, a fair offer was on the table and the big money Sox had more money to gamble on a 43 year old with 5 screws holding his shoulder together…So deal with it!!! You talk too much too…Just shut up and play…You got your big money and now you can enjoy not being able to have a life in Boston and living 1500 miles from you kids and your home because of your greed…

By Mizzou

February 20, 2009 5:12 PM | Link to this

Typical TM grumpiness, and extrapolating from few established fact. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Smoltz can’t even pitch until mid-summer, if ever. And Andruw? You really want him back on the club? Would Griffey really have contributed? How old is Furcal? Let’s wait until late season to see how this thing turns out before bashing Wren.

By LivininAL

February 20, 2009 5:14 PM | Link to this

I would have liked to seen Smoltz in a Braves uniform this year. However, did Smoltz’s agent attempt to negotiate a workable contract with the Braves as Glavin did? Free agents come and go, Hampton chose to leave for less, good move for all, he needs a fresh start…I wish Andruw well, he needs to be in Texas, not in Atlanta, obviously TP and Jones did not achieve success together.

By MAC

February 20, 2009 5:20 PM | Link to this

Steve has it right.

With their bottomless well of money, how many titles did the Yankees win the past five years?

Funny to see how spoiled Braves fans have become now that their RECORD streak of playoff appearances has had the inevitable pause. Schueurholz is one of the best GMs ever. Wren will prove himself eventually.

By USEDCARS

February 20, 2009 5:20 PM | Link to this

It makes me sad that Smoltzie has to keep on talking about the situation to justify his decision. It sounds pretty ungrateful coming from a guy that made over 10 million last year to pitch a handful of innings. Let’s take a minute to see who we missed.

Burnett - We offered him basically the same money as the Yankees. He was more comfortable as the number 2 man. Furcal - Raffy didn’t want to play 2nd base and no way we move Escobar for him at this points in their careers. Smoltz - Took the money Griffey - Went back to his original team for the same money and an opportunity within the organization that he hadn’t earned with us

Who else am I missing

By USEDCARS

February 20, 2009 5:21 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah…I forgot Andrew Jones…need I say more

By Vic

February 20, 2009 5:21 PM | Link to this

The Braves threw all that money at Chipper and no one else. That’s why great players don’t stay here. He may be productive, but he makes the kind of money to be spectacular, which he isn’t.

By billboard

February 20, 2009 5:22 PM | Link to this

Baseball is NOT a sport! It’s a freaking hobby that overweight/overpaid lard-butts participate in.

By Spud Webb

February 20, 2009 5:26 PM | Link to this

Why doesn’t TM respond to his posts??? Interesting.

By ArkyTech

February 20, 2009 5:26 PM | Link to this

Look, everyone knew the Braves had money this offseason and free agents used the Braves to get better deals. This is not a big deal.

And will someone please tell John Smoltz to just shut up!

By Bokonon

February 20, 2009 5:28 PM | Link to this

Bokonon says,”Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way.”

By Daybed Wagmoe

February 20, 2009 5:30 PM | Link to this

The same goes for Andruw Jones. He even wore a Braves cap at a Georgia Tech home basketball game last month. Instead, he signed a minor-league deal with the Texas Rangers. That was before the Griffey soap opera this week.

Terrence,

I don’t think that you can lump Andruw in with Hampton, Peavy, Burnett, Furcal, and Smoltz. Those 5 players were actually offered a contract by the Braves. Andruw wanted to come back home, but were the Braves ever interested? At all?

As for all of you who are griping about Smoltz’s comments, what are you going to say when he’s inducted in the Hall of Fame? “Oh yeah, that guy. Forget his 200+ wins, 150+ saves, and 3,000 strikeouts, not to mention his being the face of Atlanta Braves baseball for years. Nevermind his being the best closer we’ve ever had. No, forget all that — he said some mean things about the Braves’ management after he left Atlanta.” Gimme a break.

By Gil In Mechanicsville

February 20, 2009 5:35 PM | Link to this

It’s pretty hard to argue with the facts. Sadly, since the Atlanta francise has become a red headed step child of corporate America, it’s been pretty evident that the business model has been to do just enough to keep things interesting. I’m not saying the Braves need to toss money away but if you look at what the relative payroll of the team was in relation to other major league franchises, the Braves were once closer to the Yankees than the Pirates.

By david

February 20, 2009 5:47 PM | Link to this

Terrence you finally back up your articles with facts and quotes about the braves front office. however ownership has the say. it speaks volumes. money talks in this sport. loyalty is present with teams that pay their players. maddux , glavine, smoltz, thanks for the years. we cant depend on you to carry the torch, just pass it on. a plan after those guys needed to be in place. it wasnt. new management is confined by the ownership. they would love to pay the big bucks for the best players…. but will not…..because ownership is cheap! market young talent with a couple of older loyal players is the only way the braves can play in today’s game. why would I want to play here if I can make a million or two more somewhere else even if I was on a losing team? braves develope the talent, play them in the every day role, and watch them go with the money when contracts are up. get used to it braves fans, gone are the days when maddux turns down more money to sign with the yankees and play with the braves for less….he wanted to play for the braves cause they were winners. now the winners pay so that doesnt happen again. why let tex go for a loser like kotchman. who in their right mind trades half the farm to get tex then lets him go for pennies on the dollar. ownership not management says trim the budget to spend more with an increased salary cap! braves are middle of the road team at best. ted would not have let this happen if he still owned the team. he admits selling the team was a big mistake. I agree.

By keyhole

February 20, 2009 5:50 PM | Link to this

good luck smoltz, but what not here we cant think about

By foxdog

February 20, 2009 5:51 PM | Link to this

Unless you were a Braves fan prior to Ted Turner you don’t have a clue as to what a bad front office is…

By Kevin

February 20, 2009 5:54 PM | Link to this

This belief that teams have no loyalty to these old athletes is ridiculous. Who was paying them when they were younger; when they were injured; when they slumped? Where is the loyalty to the organization that took a chance on them; coached them; made them better; and made them multimillionaires?

By spotts

February 20, 2009 5:54 PM | Link to this

Wow, now I really don’t like John Smoltz. He wasn’t given a choice? I wouldn’t want to guarantee more than $2 million for a 42 year old pitcher coming off arm surgery (and won’t pitch until about 2 months into the season) either. If he can’t see the Braves’ point of view, then he’s worse than Griffey.

Unless all that was just a cover and he really just bbolted the Braves for a winner.

By wolf

February 20, 2009 5:56 PM | Link to this

John Smoltz has made $130 million playing for the Braves. OK, say he could have gotten $10-15 million MORE if he had left. My question: what the heck could he do with $140-145 million that he could not do with $130 million? How many more mansions, how many more luxury cars, how many more Rolex watches, how many more adult “toys” could he have bought with the extra money? He is already rich enough for 10 lifetimes, and his family is set for the next several generations. He has been paid more in his career than a whole brigade of EMT’s, emergency room nurses, and other working folks who, to be quite honest about it, do more socially useful work in a day than John has done in 20 seasons tossing a round sphere every five days for six months of the year. Smoltz and Glavine are great baseball players, but the key word is “players.” I wish they would wine and complain a little less. Former Army medic

By Paul

February 20, 2009 5:59 PM | Link to this

Remember Butch and Sundance when they said,”who are these guys”. That’s what you say when you look at today’s Braves. Many people go to the game just because the stadium is a fun place to go. If the Braves played in the old ball park I doubt if they would draw 1.5 million with this team.

By webhead

February 20, 2009 6:02 PM | Link to this

It’s one thing to ask someone to take less money when you are winning and another thing when your losing. That tactic will not work right now.The front office needs to change how they go about their business now.

By start-your-own-columns

February 20, 2009 6:02 PM | Link to this

Dear T. Moore Bashers aka Armchair Journalists,

I can’t say that I agree with many (or even most of) T. Moore’s views, but if you all are such better journalists…here’s an idea: Apply for a sports journalist job with the AJC. Oh that’s right, you probably don’t qualify. What does that say about you?

Sincerely, start-your-own-columns

By DTM

February 20, 2009 6:02 PM | Link to this

We all know pro athletes are over paid, but I agree with the article’s intent. Even if we’re better off without most of the guys they tried to sign this year, there’s something wrong in the front office. If nothing else, they should be more cautious about info regarding any pending deals until it’s sealed, so as not to make them look incompetent. That being said, I think they’re not only incompetent in how they handle info, but in who they are trying to sign. Very few were even a good fit for our needs, except Smoltz. Say what you want about him, but you need to sign the face of your franchise and he sure would be nice to have around IF the playoffs are made!! He and Curt Shilling are the type of dudes who man up when it’s on the line. And that IS the botton line, to win the big games…

By Paul

February 20, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this

when will people understand that major sports is a business. Management is paid to put quality teams on the field, within certain salary restrictions. Some teams / management have more to play with. I understand wanting to have your childhood “heros” play and retire with your favorite team, but that just doesn’t happen any longer. On the flip side there are also instances where players will leave for more money jilting their team. It goes both ways. So, get out there and support your team. When you favorite players come back through…root them on!

By Got Real

February 20, 2009 6:03 PM | Link to this

Wahh Wahhh Wahhhh!!!!

People are out of work! It’s tough all over! Baseball players are overpaid!

Well the fact is that all pros are overpaid. It’s a fact of life.

That being said, if you’re so offended by salaries, don’t watch the games! Don’t read the stories! DONT POST ON BLOGS!

By Bill

February 20, 2009 6:04 PM | Link to this

Damn good job Mr. Moore. Smoltz was and always will be Mr. Brave. He did more for the Braves in 20 years than anyone else. Mr. JS,FW, TMc, and all the rest wish they could have done as well as Smoltz. Bobby Cox knows the same and he would rank right there with Smoltz. Chipper will get the same short change $$ (BS) if not careful. The Braves show no Loyalty and the only reason Glavine is coming back is Front office trying to save face after the Smoltz screw up. Needing a power hitter in LF= good luck. Where do you get a good power hitting LF for 2 million or less. Blame than on F Wren. The Braves management is a damn joke!!

Thanks TM for telling it like it is. If a damn news paper report made JR not come to Atlanta, then there’s not much to Jr. Get a life we’re talking about millions of $$$ .

By TheAntiMe

February 20, 2009 6:05 PM | Link to this

Wow, Smoltzie, you’re sort of coming off as the poor jilted lover here. The fact is, John Smoltz is playing for the Red Sox because John Smoltz chose to play for the Red Sox. This is such a non-story that it’s simply pathetic.

By Jeff

February 20, 2009 6:05 PM | Link to this

Smotlz should go ahead and retire rather than go out a loser. He’s always been arrogant. But, he has backed it up. He’s getting too old, and has too many injuries. Now, its time for him to get over himself. I’m glad he’s gone.

By kjmckillop

February 20, 2009 6:07 PM | Link to this

What a sorry bunch of cry babys.Anyone who want to leave I remind them not to let the door hit them in the butt.I find all these players you name nothing but bite backing womem.Its just like the other cry baby Frenchy.If you can,t stand the heat in the kitchen then go somewhere else.What you guys (IF thats what you think your are)need a few weeks under Mr Pinella who will either grow your back bone or break it.Let me also say Mr shultz has no idea whay he saying or writeing.

By THE BEAR

February 20, 2009 6:08 PM | Link to this

In 2008 the Braves paid $36 million dollars to Smoltz, Glavine and Hampton for 8 victories. And you want another year of that. It’s a damned good thing you are not running the front office Mr. Moore. You would destroy the team in short order and pay through the nose for the privilege.

Smoltz thinks the Braves owe him $14 million a year for life. Well, screw that.

By TheAntiMe

February 20, 2009 6:19 PM | Link to this

It really seems very silly, Terence, to criticize the Braves for not signing Andruw Jones. 28 other teams, as well, decided to pass on Andruw. One of those 28 teams, the Dodgers, are even paying him $22.1 million in 2009 just to go away and leave them alone.

By JM

February 20, 2009 6:21 PM | Link to this

Smoltz did not leave for the money. Smoltz left because the Braves did not show him the respect he had earned. Wren’s cheapskate offer was a clear signal that the Braves did not believe in Smoltz. For all Smoltz has done for this organization - taking less money, pitching out of the bullpen, pitching through pain - that offer was insulting, not to mention stupid. We’re going to, in all likelihood, end up giving a washed-up Glavine and his 72 mph fastball 4.5 million, but we couldn’t guarantee more than 2.5 to Smoltz, who is still FILTHY and a staff anchor when healthy? Hell, if Smoltz could have only give us 15 starts he’d be a bargain at less than 5 million.

I am disgusted to see Smoltz in another uniform, but I understand and respect his decision to leave. He didn’t sell the fans out - the Braves sold him out.

By Terence Moore

February 20, 2009 6:22 PM | Link to this

Wow. Sorry it took so long for me to weigh in. There obviously are many different voices of opinion on this issue, but one thing is for sure: The Braves aren’t getting the job done anymore on a consistent basis when it comes to sealing the deal.

That can’t be disputed.

Now it comes down to what they need to do to change the situation. That’s the hard part. I do think Frank Wren eventually can do a solid job as general manager. It looks like the problem goes beyond just one guy.

By webhead

February 20, 2009 6:23 PM | Link to this

It’s one thing to ask someone to take less money when you are winning and another thing when your losing. That tactic will not work right now.The front office needs to change how they go about their business now.

By Frank Eifler

February 20, 2009 6:26 PM | Link to this

WAKE UP ATLANTA. Ted Turner does not own the Braves anymore…..

By AussieBravesFan

February 20, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this

I love John Smoltz but he make a business decision and took the money. Why does he continue to try to deflect attention from the fact. John be truthful and say it is a business and get on with it. People may be upset to hear its not a game for the fans but there you go.

Similarly Wren has been running a business trying to get the 40-60 palyers for the money he has to spend. That is those who are going to play a season and those who want to play a season for the Braves.

That’s the bottom line.

As for all those names like Sheffield and Drew etc they know this is a business and took the money (and maybe some nutritional supplements)

For those who jilted us this year their agents knew the power of having two bidders in a race particulalry one with a need and money. I am sure everyone can see free agents talking about Yankee interest when they are up for signing. Its a guarantee for more money..

Bring on the season and GO MOYLAN

By bull-dykes

February 20, 2009 6:31 PM | Link to this

baseball is for loosers!

By ynot

February 20, 2009 6:34 PM | Link to this

Time to move on already. Sorry, the 1990s are far in the rearview mirror now. Other than Maddox, who were the big name free agent signing. I can’t remember. Someone tell John he’s not a Brave any more. He should worry about being a Sox.

By Peter

February 20, 2009 6:38 PM | Link to this

I don’t know why this is so hard to figure out, and why even Mr Moore is clueless about this……….

The Braves were sold to a “Corporation” not a individual owner like Ted Turner, or a Mark Cuban, or even a Jerry Jones.

Corporate guys are SUPER GREEDY and want to make lots of money at the top, they fire employees, or let them go so they can be greedy and keep theirs….that is happening all over America today.

IBM will let you keep your job, but take a pay cut, plus move to India or another foreign country to work for them, as you are being outsourced !

The Braves are being run like a Home Depot, a Delta Airlines, or IBM a for profit corporation……the guys making the money want to keep it, and there is a budget they want to stay in.

For the owners of the Braves it is not about winning……… it is about money ….PERIOD !

Anyone who says differently wouldn’t convince me, and the products shows that attitude.

By chuck e

February 20, 2009 6:39 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is washed up, at the end of a once great career and has proven that he is every bit as greedy as any other player out there. I wish him well in Boston but good riddance. He’s just proven that his “holier than thou” attitude was a bunch of BS. Surely he didn’t need the money for alimony and child support?

By 1BravesFan

February 20, 2009 6:40 PM | Link to this

Who knows, if the front office keeps screwing up they might just devaluate the team to a level where Mr.Turner finds it financially practical to come back a buy the team back. Bobby Cox was on of the best things Mr. Turner ever did for this team. Time Warner fouled things up. Aren’t The Braves now owned by another “media corp.”? What do those people know about running a ball team. They probably just envisioned a cash cow. Let the people who know what they’re doing do their jobs and you guys just stick to what you know. Which, by the way, IS NOT RUNNING A BASEBALL TEAM!

By Catfish

February 20, 2009 6:50 PM | Link to this

I’m a huge Braves fan and Smoltz was always my favorite player. I will still wear his Braves jersey to ball games. However, I am a Braves fan first and a Smoltz fan second. I would love to see Smoltz succeed as a Red Sox, but I have to admit I don’t really like the way he’s handled the departure. The Braves don’t owe any player anything. You pay a player for what he’s going to do not what he’s done. If we had the payroll like the Yankees or Red Sox, then sure we should’ve given Smoltz the $6 mil and have the luxury of using him when he’s ready at mid-season. However, the Braves had to try and make themselves contenders again and Smoltz just wasn’t a part of that equation at his age and surgically repaired arm.

I want to see the Braves win and continue to do things the right way by bringing guys up through the farm system and bringing in free agents in spots when they need them. Schaffer, Heyward, Hanson, and the other prospects are as good as any and in the next 3 years you’ll see the Braves return to prominence behind those young players and a revamped pitching staff. Hanson will be starting an all star game someday very soon.

By BBuck5

February 20, 2009 6:57 PM | Link to this

Thank you. I wrote about this yesterday in David O’Briens blog. and I say it now just as I will say it this summer when the Braves fall out of contention “WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE???”

By dave the fan

February 20, 2009 7:09 PM | Link to this

John Smoltz. He not really a good source for this story Terrance. He is just sour grapes at this point. Those that actually know John the person know the reason Don Sutton calls him is favorite nine year old.

You screwed up the story on Griffey and you trying to blame the Braves.

Smoltz says Brave are not as attractive? Tell him to take a look in the mirror. Most teams are not going to guarantee millions to a picture who at best will not make any starts until June.

John you had a great career, but it’s about to come to a close, and that’s not the Braves fault.

By BartBuzz

February 20, 2009 7:10 PM | Link to this

It’s sad to see this blog turn into a bash Smoltz venue. The Braves and Smoltz made business decisions. Remember that Smoltz has talked a lot about getting back to the post season. My guess he felt Boston gave him the best chance. Maybe it was about money but I have my doubts.

By Josh

February 20, 2009 7:10 PM | Link to this

Smoltz didn’t have a choice? Please. He chose more money and I don’t blame him at all, but don’t say you didn’t have a choice. I really enjoyed him over the years but I’m glad he’s gone. He’s whines too much. What kind of a person preaches his faith all the time then gets a divorce anyway? Maybe he’ll have success in Boston, but after the arm problems he’s had I think the Braves made the right decision.

By walter

February 20, 2009 7:18 PM | Link to this

Let me say this I love John Smoltz, But how many times did the braves pay his salary and him not be able to pitch? same thing with mike Hampton, and Tom Glavine. They could not afford to take a gamble like they did last year. What di he make last year 8 million Tom Glavine 8 Mill, Hampton Im not sure, the total How many games were pitched? Smoltz dissapoints me if they made you an offer and you took another then you Chose to leave. Anyone of your loyal fans would love to would be thrilled to make 1/10 of what you are makeing, but as always it is somebody eles fault. How much money have you made from the braves over your 20 yrs 100 plus million, yes they have done you so wrong get over it.

By steve

February 20, 2009 7:22 PM | Link to this

listen, TM is correct, i was a braves fan when being a braves fan was not very cool. Now i am a Red Sox fan and not because of John going up there, that organization is in a class by themselves and handle things internally better than any other club. if it were not for chipper and tommmy i would not even watch the braves this year.This statement is from someone who knows baseball, and was part of an organization at one time………

By michael f

February 20, 2009 7:22 PM | Link to this

terrence, are you serious about the braves not resigning javy or sheffield or drew? are you actually sad that hey let hampton go? if you are then you are an idiot. if you haven’t heard its just now spring training and houston already has hmapton issues with him having an irregular heartbeat. yeah his hear is irregular because he can’t believe after all the money he sucke dout of the braves like the vampire he is that someone actually wanted to give him more money! also, I love Smoltz, always have and always will. But seriously John, SHUT UP ALREADY! I mean my God, you’re in Boston now, fine! And you Moore, you need tyo shut up to and get back the business of dissing Atlanta like you always do you cheap quack of a journalist.

By AD

February 20, 2009 7:23 PM | Link to this

Finally a quality article!!!!!!

By ronny

February 20, 2009 7:26 PM | Link to this

i wish these owners would sell the braves to Author Blank which was wanting to buy at one time, these owner seems like they do not care about the braves

By Rusty

February 20, 2009 7:28 PM | Link to this

You people dont get it. Terrence Moore is a genious. People who hate him read his articles. Of course people who like him will read his articles. Love him or hate him, EVERYONE reads his articles. SUCKERS.

By theclipper

February 20, 2009 7:38 PM | Link to this

Terrence, you forgot to mention Justice this time again, didn’t you?

By Will

February 20, 2009 7:42 PM | Link to this

Smoltz can go suck on a sock. Of course players leave for other places to take more money. Of course players leave for more money. Isn’t that always the case. How many players leave Atlanta for less money? Hampton? Maybe a few more. Now how many come to Atlanta for less money There’s been quite a few. Does spending more money than everyone make the Yankees smarter than the rest? What a doofus. I hope he hits the DL from pitching in the cold weather.

By Paula

February 20, 2009 7:48 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Mr. Moore, the Braves “sealed” the deals they needed to: Derek Lowe and Kawakami.

BTW, have you apologized to Dave O’Brien yet? Was this article just a smokescreen to try and cover up your part in the Griffey debacle? I think most people are smart enough to see this article for what it was - a pitiful attempt on your part to turn the discussion away from you.

By herbK

February 20, 2009 7:53 PM | Link to this

I like Smoltz, but with that said, this is easy to disect. Baseball players are overpaid/underworked babies. All of them. They provide nothing more than entertainment, and it is no longer cheap. It is the same as going to an $11 movie, which I don’t do. Smoltz is disingenuous, as he took 4-5 mil over much less than the braves offered, Ok, nothing wrong with that. Don’t attempt to explain it in another fashion, as he’s done. I would call him a liar, but that would be harsh. Baseball players today are not (in my opinion) worth one-tenth of what they are paid via contract, but that’s the way it is. I know I won’t be attending any games to waste my $$$ that way.

By Chopper

February 20, 2009 7:56 PM | Link to this

Smoltz is washed up. He can’t make it through a full season anymore and should have retired a few seasons ago…but, like the rest of ‘em, he’s greedy and wants to milk as many $$$ out of his arm as he can.

The only bad thing is that we didn’t trade him a few seasons ago when we could have gotten something for him. Same goes for Chipper. Trade him now and commit to rebuild from within. THAT is how the Braves won 14 titles in a row, not by being sentimental. Funny, Smoltz was all about that system until he was the one on the chopping block (pun intended)!

By joe

February 20, 2009 7:59 PM | Link to this

You gotta hand it to TM cause he knows how to stir it up and I guess it sells papers. But for what its worth I dont agree, not that he cares. His article reminds me of a fox 5 team investigation that turns up a scandal and they are trying to interview the dude and he runs from the camera . Theres only one problem theres no scandal here. If the braves didnt get played by Griffey its just another boring news day. Griffey was headed home - where it all began and where he wants it to end and I commend him on that but along the way he took a detour and everyone ran with it including TM. It wasnt the AJCs fauld or the braves - Ken was going home all along and just took a look around one last time. FLirted with the braves but it was just a flirt. Its understandable that Smotlz has some hard feeling and he should have taken the high road - The Braves have stuck by him and paid him well and it was in the best interest of the future not to mortgage more money on a comeback. Reading these blogs you realize the people writing are faced with fears that have nothing to do with tossing a baseball - keeping your job your house your way of life does. You watch for the backlash come June and July when we are knee deep in this muck and the comments of a multimillionare wont matter a bit

By MEB

February 20, 2009 8:08 PM | Link to this

John Smoltz dissing the Braves with Terrance Moore. Just doesn’t sound right to me. I think John should just shut up and pitch. That is if your arm doesn’t fall off. The Braves paid you pretty well last year John for what… five starts. You left the Braves for one reason John, you calculated the Red Sox were going to the post season and the Braves weren’t. Fess up to it John, you are really beginning to sound disingenuous. Terrance… you still sound like the same ol’Terrance. Trying to stir the pot one way or the other.

By RJ

February 20, 2009 8:24 PM | Link to this

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John jst needs to move on. I’ve alway respcted hm but his comments are in poor taste and he should just take the high road at this point. Frank has his hands tied to a crtn degree but overall has done a decent job. Rembr Shrholtz hd an owner who wnted to win. GO BRAVES!!!!!!

By chris

February 20, 2009 8:24 PM | Link to this

It seems taht ever since Time Warner bought the team and we didn’t have a one-man owner like Ted Turner things have NEVER been the same. This new group has done less as well. It’s not all the front office’s fault because we don’t want to become the New York Yankees of the South and spent multi-millions and then get our butts kicked all season because of bad chemistry. What got us 14 division titles will work again if we will let it - great starting pitching, get two-three big bats in the lineup, 1-2 good free agent signings and milk the farm system for all its worth. I wish Arthur Blank would have been able to pull of the purchase of the Braves a few years ago. Our fortunes may be different. Its not so much that Smoltz’s point is wrong but it’s unfair to pin it all on the front office. As some others have stated the general managers are given a budget to work with and with today’s stupidity level salaries players are demanding it’s a bit harder than it was 10-15 years ago. If we get a billionaier owner then we’ll see how life changes; bottom line though is whether you pay them 100 million or 10 million they still need to be able to hit, pitch and catch!

By jonnycash

February 20, 2009 8:27 PM | Link to this

Smoltz left for the money, what a surprise. Good riddance and Boston will be sorry when that arm goes halfway through the year.

By todd

February 20, 2009 8:31 PM | Link to this

Wren is not the problem. I think he has actually done a decent job of rebuilding the pitching staff under difficult circumstances. People forget his first trade netted Jair Jurgens who could anchor the rotation for the next 10 years. The real problem with the Braves is Liberty Media and the stagnant payroll budget despite massive growth by other teams. All the Braves are is a tax write off. You can’t have a media company based in Colorado that has no interest in wins and losses owning the team. I can’t believe MLB has allowed this to happen. Its not in the best interests of Braves fans or the MLB. Is there any hope they will sell the team when they are elgible to sell?

By TheAntiMe

February 20, 2009 8:39 PM | Link to this

I believe that if the Braves make it to the playoffs this season then maybe free agents will not need to be brought in, practically at gunpoint, to get them to play with a tomahawk across their chest.

Then, I guess Frank Wren instantly goes from moron to genius. No sarcasm intended (at least, not in this paragraph). I’m just saying.

By reggie terry

February 20, 2009 8:45 PM | Link to this

I cannot beleive anyone is defending the braves front office.Just look at the players they tried signed in free agency.Most of them were past their prime like mondesi who could no longer hit.this has been going on for a long time.The problem has been the owners.Time Warner only wanted the braves for tax write off purposes and would spend money and Liberty Media will do the same thing.Time Warner executives were probably yankees season ticketholders and fans.They could have cared less about Atlanta.You see they did not want to sell to the falcons owner who would have put a contender out there.Bottom line this routine of will continue until the braves are sold to a local owner.

By monty

February 20, 2009 8:48 PM | Link to this

Sports is a “what have you done for me lately business.” THat’s how it is viewed from the management side but the players are just as guilty. THere basically is no team loyalty any more except for Chipper Jones restructuring his contract in order to help get players signed. Smoltz left his bride of 20 years for a younger prettier woman who offered him more. ANd he left, his choice. Boston has more cash to throw around, Smolts went to the highest bidder.

By Bill

February 20, 2009 8:49 PM | Link to this

You idiot braves fans think you can win every year.Who do you think you are? the Yankees.

By MOORE the JOKE

February 20, 2009 8:49 PM | Link to this

I guess you forgot that Lowe and Kawakami had NO problem coming to Atlanta.

We offered Hampton just as much $$ as Houston!

We offered JR just as much $$ as Seattle!

We would have matched the Dodgers offer for Furcal if given the chance!

The only other player we got outbid for was AJ.

The 3 best pitchers on the free agent market this year were CC, AJ and Lowe. Well we got Lowe and the other two went to a team with a payroll of 200 million.

You have NO clue MOORE!

By MOORE the JOKE

February 20, 2009 8:51 PM | Link to this

MOORE, your Andruw comment is just silly.

By Mitch

February 20, 2009 8:57 PM | Link to this

When you really think about it, most everyone who left the Braves, except for Greg Maddux, went downhill, after leaving Atlanta.

Tommy Glavine, as much as I love him, had two bad years in New York, one good one (2006), and two so-so ones. Greg was okay, but not great, after he left. Except for Sheff, when he went to the Yankees, no one really tore it up, after leaving.

What really happened is this: The Braves got great seasons, out of good, to great players, in their heydays. Then, when the players got older, and likely weren’t worth the money they sought, the Braves let them go.

Smoltz is a great ballplayer, and I wish him well with the Sox. One day, he belongs in the HOF. However, he is going to be 42 in May, and is coming off serious arm surgery. The Braves didnt know about his health. From a business sesnse, they needed to be practical. John’s best touche to the Braves would be to pitch lights out from June on, and for the Red Sox to win their third championship since 2004. The problem for Smoltz and the Sox is, if those pitchers in the Bronx are healthy, there wont be too many runs scored off that Yankee staff this summer, and one would have to favor them to win the AL East title.

Smoltz was here for 21 years, and is just venting frustration. I’m not angry with him. The Braves made some good moves this winter. Hopefully, it will result in at least a wild card berth.

By Adam

February 20, 2009 9:00 PM | Link to this

John Smoltz has meant everything tho this franchise so for those of you telling him to shut up and move on are out of line. Smoltz has ALWAYS been a man of honor, a great leader and a mentor, not to mention, he is a Hall of Fame arm. All of the “fans” here telling him to shut his mouth need not forget what he has meant fot this team and what he will still mean to this team in a couple of years when he is our pitching coach, and eventually our manager. Or at least I hope he will be one day. #29 will ALWAYS be a Brave!

By Bartman

February 20, 2009 9:05 PM | Link to this

I agree with “BartBuzz” (7:10). In the eyes of the rich players in the league, the money difference between what the Braves offered and what the Red Sox gave him was small. What Smoltz saw was a probable 500, or less, team in Atl and a potential World Series team in Boston. Can’t blame him for jumping ship for that. Just wish he could do it without bashing the front office. Every single offer that was out there for the players that were lost/unsigned, were comparable to the contracts that they actually signed. The only baffling one to me was Griffey. The money was about the same. The location was better and if a team has a better chance at winning sooner, it would be the Braves…at least it appears that way to me. Right? Seattle isn’t close to being anything… last I heard they were wanting to dump contracts. Sounds like rebuilding to win and not built to win. Okay, tell me what an idiot I am…

By Tami

February 20, 2009 9:15 PM | Link to this

I’m with practically everyone else in this blog. I absolutely LOVE Smoltz, and if I can get there, would love to take my first trip to Cooperstown to watch his induction ceremony into the Hall of Fame. He was my late father’s favorite pitcher. However, the glory years of the Fab 3 (Glav, Smoltzie & Maddux) are long gone. Times change. This is the Braves of 2009, not 1999. This calls for us to either keep up with THIS team of Braves, or be forever lost in nostalgia. Enough already. I want to find any way possible to be optimistic and hopeful for this season — whether it’s reality or not. ALL baseball fans are optimistic & hopeful at the start of spring training. GO BRAVES!!

By BossLady

February 20, 2009 9:18 PM | Link to this

Terence you and Smoltz should go somewhere and shut up. No one cares what you think and if Smoltz does not have anything good to say for a team that he worked for 20 years then that lets you know what he is too.

Your column has been such a disgusting thing in the Atlanta Journal that I can’t believe that you still have a job. I really wish that they would just let you go.

By Biren

February 20, 2009 9:49 PM | Link to this

Look guys, John Smoltz is the past. He’ll do fine in Boston. We need fresh blood in the Atlanta pitching staff. New players excite the game more. I personally hope Smoltz fails because of these pathetic things he says after the fact. He’ll be crying back next year if he doesn’t retire. To Smoltz, just shut up and be with Boston and stop mentioning Atlanta. He just wants the Braves to suck this year. But believe me, we’ll be just fine!!!

By Jon

February 20, 2009 9:57 PM | Link to this

Amusing to see a couple of third rate sports writers like Mark Bradley and Terence Moore calling the Braves a second rate team.

By BravesFan79

February 20, 2009 10:06 PM | Link to this

All you Smoltz haters are misinformed. TM wrote this article in a way that made Smoltz look bad. The Braves gave Smoltz a terribly low offer and the Red Sox saw his value as a postseason pitcher and went for it. Ive said for several seasons now that Smoltz should wait until the all star break to pitch and be healthier for the playoffs.

Smoltz dominated in 1991 against the Pirates and Twins, and he will dominate in 2008 for the Red Sox in the postseason….. count on it!
Those who think hes washed up must of forgotten he outpitched some of the TOP pitchers in baseball just LAST YEAR!

EdNorton: Ive never been prouder to be called out for defending someone who’s a class act like Smoltzie!

And do the others on this blog go to such lengths to diss the REAL scumbags in sports? Last i checked, Smoltz never had 9 kids by 9 women… (Travis Henry) or 6 kids by 5 women before the age of 24 and threatned the life of his ex and her kid in a voicemail,and threw a bottle atthe head of a 17 yr old foster child he got pregnant (Elijah Dukes)
Smoltz never said “i dont celebrate that American flag sht” (Josh Howard) and isnt a total fake piece of crap like Charles Barkley who cheats on his wife every chance he gets and sexually assualts women. ( Yes i personally know a young women that used to be his friend before the incident. ) He never pushed a old man down the stairs (Manny) Never left anyone paralyzed for life (Pacman Jones)
Never rapped racial insults like Shaq.
Wow the media bias is getting worse and worse these days.
Always ignoring the REAL stories to go after the Don Imus’s of the world.

Yes theres ALOT of players who deserve to have alot of negative things thrown their way, Smoltz is NOT ONE OF THEM!!

By Hip Hopcracy

February 20, 2009 10:07 PM | Link to this

I agree with many of the bloggers; Smoltzy needs to rein in his disgust with the Braves organization and start concentrating on being a Red Sock. He stands to tarnish his formidable reputation and alienate his forever-loyal fan base if he keeps pounding on the team WHOSE UNIFORM HE’LL BE WEARING IN COOPERSTOWN.

That being said, it is becoming painfully obvious that ownership has become an impediment to the Braves attracting the game’s best and most exciting players. Cash is king and the Braves have become mere pawns in the game. Sad to witness the slow demise of a once-invincible force in the NL.

By stynes

February 20, 2009 10:22 PM | Link to this

I’ve long been a fan of the Braves. I think JS was a fantastic GM. I don’t think FW has done too poorly, either. I think not bringing Peavy over given what the Padres were asking was probably wise. Renteria to Detroit was a steal. JS/FW have excellent business minds - some of the best in the game. They know the players they want and they usually know what constitutes a fair trade. They’ve got all that down. What they don’t have down is the relational aspect that goes into the game today. Especially with the top tier free agents, they want to have their ego stroked. Now maybe Smoltz and others won’t say that, but that’s what it boils down to. These players relate more easily to an Epstein or a Cashman or folks like that seem on some level to be able to relate more easily. Does having an insane amount of money make that easier? Well certainly it does. But stroking the ego and wooing folks a little bit doesn’t hurt either. This Smoltz news isn’t news. It came out years ago with the “homeboy upstairs” referring then to JS. JS and FW are too smart to realize what they’re missing. Unbutton the top button once in a while and take these guys out for a drink. Woo them a little bit. It worked with Lowe and Kensin, didn’t it?

By Bullwinkle

February 20, 2009 10:25 PM | Link to this

Smoltz was great Brave.. Now leave us alone you turncoat and quit taking shots are the gurl who brung you to the dance.. One word….BULLHOCKEY

By FEC

February 20, 2009 10:34 PM | Link to this

let’s be fair and remember…seems they all say, “it’s a business”…UNTIL…it happens to them…this was a business decision ON BOTH PARTS…the Braves and John’s and NOTHING IS WRONG with either! Let it go…and many of the folks comments are exactly right when the general point is that EACH PLAYER and SITUATION is completely different and must be treated on a “case by case” basis…why, isn’t that what “free agency” created…no more “collusion”…everyone treated INDIVIDAULLY…well ‘PLAYERS’…you can’t have it BOTH WAYS…finally, to air all this sutff out in public and use the newsmedia (either side) is BIG TIME” cheesey and immature…hate Scherholz all ya want, but these things were managed “behind the scenes” so the public often didn’t know the things that they didn’t need to and therefore didn’t get on the proverbial “roller coaster” of emotion…in my opinion, THAT SHOULD BE THE FIRST MANAGEMENT PRIORITY…START PUTTING A BETTER LID ON THIS SUTFF…and save all sides from having to shovel so much “BS”!

By Poorbrave

February 20, 2009 10:39 PM | Link to this

Walter= How much money have you make from the Braves over 20 years, 100 plus million? Do you have any idea how much money the Braves have made from having Smoltz on the team...he puts people in the seats, jerseys and other junk they sell. He was their #1 PR man, he has spend millions in Atlanta & around Ga. doing free services, spending his own money. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. You will never give back to Ga. what Smoltz has. No other player on Braves team has done as much as Smoltz. Boy ya’ll have a lot of loyalty to the great ones. Good luck Mr. Brave, John Smoltz.

By fed up with prima donnas

February 20, 2009 10:46 PM | Link to this

I have had enough of Smoltz. He wanted more money with no expectations of pitching. He also wanted to play in the post season and get another ring…Boston gives him a better chance. I have no problem with any of that. He just doesn’t have the guts to say it and wants to blame his leaving on someone else so he can stay the good guy…I do have a problem with that. Smoltz left the Braves, he is NOT a Brave any longer, he needs to just shut his piehole and only time will tell if Boston was able the buy him the second ring he couldn’t earn.

By turkey

February 20, 2009 10:50 PM | Link to this

Again, this is not 1995. TM let the past go and look foward to the future. You don’t catch the top teams ( Yankees or Red Sox ) looking back so why are the Braves doomed to this fate? Except for Peavy the rest of these players are toast, used up, through, looking for one last big payday or the chance to win a ring. Please Braves fans let them go.