Terence Moore

By NRBQ

November 26, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

R-i-g-h-t, Terrance.

Too bad those poor folks that Brian Nichols shot didn’t have you to give advice on courtroom security.

Scum looks good in stripes, BTW.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

November 26, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

All he did was drown the dogs that wouldn’t die from hanging from the trees.

By plah

November 26, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

i agree. What he did to those dogs was horrible but he is getting his punishment. Hopefully he learned his lesson and can move on but the rest of us need to worry about ourselves and let this man go.

By JJ

November 26, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

I agree Terence but you know how this blog will turn out. All the radical idiots of every color will be spewing their hatred. The man was wrong, admitted his mistake, paying his dues and once he’s out, I wish him the best. (just not in atl)

By Historian

November 26, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

TMoore, you’re missing the point about PETA. They are animal rights activist with their own agenda. If I was the target (I’m white), they would do exactly the same thing. Sometimes these activist borderline on terrorist activity, remember the homes that were burned by arsonist in the northwest for who knows what reason (wood, location, etc). People living in trees, protecting an owl, or holding up a needed reservoir in Tennessee for a snail darter. We have to understand that Vick was a celebrity and got these folks a lot of publicity, so why should they stop.

By The Real Home-Boy

November 26, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Wow Terrence if there has ever been a time you were right about something it is now. Usually I would be upset or sick to my stomach about something you published. But on this matter you were on point. Vick is not a threat to society. This has gone to far. Let the man heal and move on with his life. I am surprise that all of the nay sayers haven’t commented. That calls for another WOW!!!!!!!

By R

November 26, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

hHE WAS A GOOD KID WHO WENT WRONG AND HAS PAID FOR IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. I believe in jail as stap toward rehabilitation Give him a break. My god Richard Nixon walked the steets and he betrayed his counntry. Bill Clinton did not get removed from office and he embarassed the Oval Office. He is now a crowned prince. Help this kid rehabilitate. It is not about the damn dogs will kill thousands every day. It is all about peoples need to hate. I am a white man writing this and peole so much of his venom is racial. Som redneck goes out and shoots an innocent deer and he is a helo. Get ovwe yourself people

By THE MAN

November 26, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

GO BACK TO CALI, TERRANCE. EVERYONE IN ATLANTA HATES YOU BECAUSE YOU’RE A HORRIBLE WRITER.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU!

By henry wainwright

November 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

The shackling is just part opf the process. The fed,s require shackling regardless of the offense. Remember the high flying tycoons that were arrested; all of them were shackled.

Vick is paying for his actions. I just wonder what he would he would be doing if he had not been caught. Vick put his own pets in with a pit bull. How could he ?

By E. Smith

November 26, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

I will be happy when Michael Vick is released. Because Dog fighting is still going on, It hasn’t slowed down at all. So why should he sit in jail. When he could be working. Playing Foot Ball.

By Falconidae

November 26, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Sorry Terrence, but the ankle/ wrist shackles are SOP. they’re just treating him like they would treat anyone else- that’s not humiliation.

By c'MON

November 26, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Vick made horrendous choices that ended up with innocent animals suffering/dying and himself sitting in prison. Heaven forbid he has to suffer the indignity and public humiliation of being treated like a common prisoner. I think you underestimate the effectiveness of a good heaping of humble pie to change behavior. Instead of a role model for our youth, he’s now an object lesson. When he’s finished serving his time and acts right that’s when he can earn some respect.

By AW

November 26, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

There’s not a thing they can do to that guy that’s bad enough. You’re worried about humiliating him? Wow. Way to go Terrance. You couldn’t let off Richt for an end zone celebration but now Vick deserves a break?

That piece of trash deserves everything that has come and will come to him. When he ends up in a trailer park someday plunging toilets it will be his fault and exactly what he deserves.

By no_id

November 26, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

this is one I can agree..enough is enough.

By David Eanes

November 26, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

I think a bit of humility is always part of the humbling process… message here: If you don’t want to be embarrassed in black and white stripes, don’t hang, beat, and electrocute innocent animals that weren’t the fighters you’d trained them to be.

Amazingly, this whole thing worked out better for the Falcons, who got a better QB that can actually throw the ball — imagine that; a QB that passes — and won’t go around with his thug friends killing animals that didn’t help them win a bet.

By TI

November 26, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Are you serious, Terrance? Really?

Vick should be humiliated. He’s a thug and a worthless human being.

How can any of you say Vick was punished enough?

Let’s throw your family pets in the ring with dogs trained to kill.

You all are disgusting.

By Elmo

November 26, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Oh my God ! Mike is being put out so much ! It’s horrible he can’t do his thing right now! Horrible !

By jack

November 26, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

I loved to watch Mike play. No surprise. I am ready to move on as most civil thinkers will. My issue with Mike is/was the ease with which he lied; over and over and over. If a few months in jail can fix Mike`s social issues then it will have been time well spent. If not, it will resurface soon enough. And then what? I, for one, am pulling for him to return to being one of the most entertaining football players I have ever seen, just without the old lieing Mike. Good luck Bro.

By Justice

November 26, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

If George Bush had any guts, he would pardon Vick now,the man has been punished enough.I thought Vick’s attorneys did an awful job representing him,especially considering how much they were paid.Vick was used as a scapegoat to a large degree to send a message. I always thought the punishment did not fit the crime,plus supposedly Vick was a first time offender. Of course his main problem was not being honest up front.I do believe if Vick had not been famous and wealthy, he and his so-called friends would have been punished much less severely.

By Woody

November 26, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

I more or less agree with you Terence, once the man has served his time people need to let it go. But, he is still a prisoner in a federal penitentiary. What do you expect for them to put him in a football uniform and run the ball into the courthouse! I’m sure he was treated like every other prisoner, as he should be.

By Pete

November 26, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Humiliate the felon ?? What do you call what he did to Arthur Blank, his team mates, the ENTIRE Falcon organization, every Falcon fan with an IQ above plant life, and the commissioner of the NFL ??? Please. Go peddle your “forgiveness” to the gang “in the hood”. That’s where you’ll find Vick down the road.

By Smoodypat

November 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

I’m not saying Vick didn’t deserve to do his time for his crime, but we are talking about animals. What is different from what Vick did to what the horse racing industry does on a massive, condoned, legal scale? Anybody watch the last few Kentucky Derby’s? When a race ends with the ethunasia of an animal is that any different than a dog fight? Mike Vick’s life has been nearly destroyed. He is bankrupt, incarcerated and his future is in doubt. After he serves his time and pays his hypocritical debt to society, he deserves another chance. Arthur Blank should at least give him a workout to see if Vick can be a wide receiver in the NFL or maybe even a wildcat QB. Matty Ice is our QB for the future, but Vick could add talent and speed to the offense at a bargain price. And it would be a tremendous show of good faith to the African American community on whom Blank relies to sell-out the Dome.

By gdg73

November 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Darn good article Terrence. Short and to the point. I am convinced that the federal government went overboard in prosecuting this case in the first place. I like dogs, but I love people even more. What Vick did was wrong, dead wrong, but let the guy serve his time and move on with his life. There is no need to continue to humiliate the guy as the Feds are continuing to do. All these idiots on here act like they have never did anything wrong before. This pure hatred being spewed towards this man is just as disgusting as anything Vick every did. By putting him down, you claim to be better human beings than him. Give me a break!!! No wonder Georgia went red again.

By Atty

November 26, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

As an attorney, I can tell you that being “shackled” is standard procedure. Don’t you want him treated like everyone else? I do agree with your general theme, that once he has done his punishment we should move on.

By SW

November 26, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

I was never a fan of him and he was very wrong. However, the piling on was ridiculous. I truly wish we held public officials/leaders to the same standard that we hold athletes/entertainers who are non-elected….that would be change I’d like to see.

By Bullzeye

November 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Animals need activists (especially domesticated ) to protect them from human scum. People should know right from wrong. “The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”

By Another Falcon Redneck

November 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

TM…well I got argee with you. I have 3 dogs and consider them one of god greatest creation. We all know , inclding MV, what he did was wrong and creul, but he has done his time.

My hope is that he can repair his image and become a role model, especially for his scummy punk brother Marcus

By Jeff

November 26, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

It is not humiliation….it is a Federal mandate when FEDERAL prisoners are brought out into public. DO NOT THINK since he is the FAMOUS Michael Vick that HE should get special treatment. If you don’t want him to be treated like a FEDERAL offense prisoner, maybe he should have picked a lesser crime to commit.

By David

November 26, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Perfect Darwinian behavior: survival of the fittest….if you can’t seem to make it in society after being awarded a $130 million contract your seed doesn’t deserve to move forward. Weed out the idiots….might sound mean, but the truth hurts.

By Jenni13

November 26, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

“Dog fighting stuff,” “let it go,” “a good kid”???? Wake up, people. Vick is a monster who laughed as family pets were torn apart by pit bulls forced into a tortuous life of fighting… and when these poor dogs didn’t perform to his liking, he brutally beat, hung or drowned them while getting some sort of sick and twisted pleasure from it. Sounds like a serial killer in the making to me. Thankfully he was caught and put in jail before he moved on from dogs to humans. Not to mention that pit bulls are loving, devoted pets who will do anything to please their owners — including fighting to the death. Vick deserves every shackle, every chain, and every single day he is in prison. He should rot there. B*stard.

By Falcon Season Ticket Holder

November 26, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Hi Terence,

I thought your readers or one of the writers there at AJC (maybe a business writer) would be interested in knowing that 2008 Falcon Season ticket holders are now (as in the day before Thanksgiving, 2008) receiving their season ticket renewal notices for 2009. The top of the invoice reads like this: “To avoid forfeiture of seats, enroll in the payment plan or submit the amount due by December 30, 2008”. Last year, we almost gagged when we received this early in the Spring requiring payment by June 1st. Now, that want paid 9 months before the first exhibition game in the middle of an expensive season in the middle of a recession. Have they lost their minds?!?!? As a barbarian side note. above the “Payment Method” section it reads: “All Payments are non-refundable after 12/30/2008”. This is pitifully lousy business practice and I have a major problem with Arthur Blank and his henchmen. My hopes are you can expose these blackmailers and have them rethink their reckless business practices.

Sincerely,

Tim H.

By Hilary Smith

November 26, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Shame on Vick.

By John

November 26, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

I will leave him alone after he is made to suffer one-tenth of what his victims had to endure.

By neil marlowe

November 26, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

seems to me that he has humiliated himself! he is a criminal - society has set down standards for punishment and he is getting his due.

By will wallace

November 26, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

only because of Vick’s professional profile has he been so persecuted for the ‘not major’ crime of dog fighting. I’ve never been a fan of Vick because of his behavior on and off the field, but his punishment has been way out of any proportion to the crime. His punishment is comparable to convicted heads of the mafia. Rather, he should have been heavily fined (because of his wealth and image) and given probation with a zillion hours of community service.

By gdg73

November 26, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Was Martha Stewart ever paraded out in handcuffs and shackles? If she was, I don’t remember it. I’m sure someone will point out the difference.

By Soma

November 26, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

you must be kidding me? If it was myself or any other US citizen they would be treated the same why should he be treated any better?

By give me a break

November 26, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

vick is a loser…and the upcoming humiliation that he has to endure will either make him into a respectable person or will turn him into an even bigger loser.

will he keep trying to be a gangsta or will he realize that the rest of the world dosen’t roll with the gangsta crowd.

maybe he needs to spend some time with obama, henry aaron, and magic johnson instead of his buds in va beach.

i hope he succeeds. but if he fails…guess what…it is HIS problem…not a fault of society. society and god gave him everything that he needed to succeed. he just pi**ed it away.

By harlemblues

November 26, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

The majority of people offended are the people that have dogs that replace children. I feel for you, and understand that you treat your dog as if it was your child, and love your dog very much. But give the guy a break. You don’t ruin a young man’s life over his treatment for a dog. He’s been found guilty, and serving his sentence. Put yourself in his shoes, you’d want a second chance as well.

By kane

November 26, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

I think Vick hasn’t been humiliated enough. This “dogfighting stuff” you refer to is deplorable. Oh let’s all shed a tear for poor poor Michael Vick because he had handcuffs on - boo hoo. I’d be angry if he didn’t have the cuffs on. He is a criminal, and should be treated like a criminal. Take the cuffs off after he’s granted his not deserved early release and he can go back to making millions of dollars a year, and cry into his pillow every night over his humiliating pictures in the news. Let’s not worry about the animals he tortured.

By self-righteous PETA

November 26, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Why does’nt PETA show up at McDonalds,Burger King,etc. and the others making money off dead animals.-Just something to think about. By the way Bullzeye,-“India is obviously a greater nation because of the way they treat cows.” LEAVE VICK ALONE and go after the real scum.

By RJ from Texas

November 26, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

My first reaction at this article was that of someone seeing another biased media article feeling sorry for the criminal while the victim is looked as a being too harsh. As someone who once worked for a police department, I have to change that first reaction to say that, yes, shackles and handcuffs, are overkill. I agree that handcuffs are necessary, but leg shackles are overboard for someone whose crime was not toward people in the first place. I have to disagree with you that PETA has let it go and be suspicious that PETA had something to do with humiliating Vick. The government has shown itself to cower to the pressure of such activist organizations.

By Mort Merkel

November 26, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Let the local jurisdiction decide its courtroom security procedures. Vick put himself in the position and has to “endure,” whatever the system’s procedures are. He’s not being picked on … or cruelly tortured or killed for sick sport for that matter. Bye now.

By H-dawg

November 26, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

I’d let Martha Stewart put me in handcuffs … if you know what I mean. And I think you do.

By tux

November 26, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

admitted his mistakes? he copped a lesser plea.

@ Smoodypat are you SERIOUS?? ethunasia as defined by webster is ‘ending a life in a painless manner’. What part of electrocution, drowning and brutal bludgeoning do you find painless????

maybe MV’s next coach can electrocute, hang, drown and beat him when his performance falls below standard. Afte all, he was a lousy QB to begin with.

By idiot blogger

November 26, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

If only you people cared about your childrens educations, the national deficit, our nation at war, rising health care costs, and the state of the economy as much as you care about Michael Vick, this might be a better country to live in. Get over it people. He accepted responsibility, did his time, and lost every penny he had. OJ Simpson lives a better live than Michael Vick. Move on people. Start worrrying about your own sorry lives.

By Seriously?

November 26, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Terence,

You should be embarrassed and humiliated for the crap you try to push on your readers. We should feel sorry for him now? Why?

$130 milllion dollars of the money paid by ticketholders and fans went into many different illicit businesses and an multi-state gambling ring that tortures dogs for fights to the death. Have you seen the scars on the dogs? Do you read what actually happened to the ones that didn’t fight well?

Please….do not ask me to feel sorry for someone who wasted that much talent and money.

By dick beckley

November 26, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

I’ve found that people who kill animals and torture them are not much different from murderers. He had the world in his hands and blew it all , by his misdeeds. I can’t feel sorry for him and feel he doesn’t deserve to ever play football again and have our young people exposed to guys like him, but I do think he has been punished as much as law permits and should be not humiliated any further and that also, the general public should not have to hear what his status is and he should just fade away into oblivion and be forgotten.

By G Ray

November 26, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Yes & the Falcons should bring him back A Blank in able what happen to Mike

By the_good_hurt

November 26, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

never mind

By Denis

November 26, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

If it had been me convicted of the same crime we would not be talking about this at all, or would we.Some of the people are boarderline terrorist. These people think more of animals than they do people.If not so there wouldn’t be any homeless people. Michael Vick knows he messed up.Michael Vick as far as I’m concerned has served his time. Let him go where ever anyone is willing to give him a chance. Here in Atlanta we have been there and done that.I and so many other Falcon Fans are sick and tired of hearing about it.Me personally don’t think he was good enough as a Quarterback in the NFL. What 67% rating not good enough for me. I wish him well in his next attempt in the NFL I know someone will give him a contract,after all Dallas is still in the league. dc from Conyers

By Clay

November 26, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Humiliation? He is responsible for any humiliation he may feel. What he did is against the law. He’s not a victim by any stretch of the imagination.

Rules are rules. Vick shouldn’t be given special treatment (i.e. - not having to wear handcuffs, prison uniforms, etc). Other convicted felons have to abide by the same set of rules. They are in custody. They are criminals. He should have considered his actions prior to committing a crime. Nobody ‘made him do what he did.

I sincerely hope he turns his life around after this. Based on he & his brother’s choices and actions, I’m not holding my breath though. The roots of this particular family’s tree seem to run pretty deep from what I can tell.

By jj

November 26, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

I agree with you Mr.Moore,enough is enough.Because of his status in sports he’s paying a heavy price.As for one who once was lost,but now found I know if Mike is real about his conversion GOD will see him through.If GOD be for him ,who can stop GOD from getting the glory out of his life.What a testimony he’ll have.God ain’t through with him yet.May GOD be with him.

By Bob

November 26, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

What is the world coming to when a convicted felon is subjected to this kind of treatment? I for one would not put it past Michael Vick to attempt an escape. He is an incredibily stupid human being. You don’t have to be evil, bad, or scary to be a criminal folks. Most of the time having the brain the size of a peanut will suffice. Vick definitely fits the bill. I don’t blame the feds at all for the shackles and chains. You never know what a stupid person will do. And if its protocol, you don’t break protocol for a star athlete. That would be special treatment and nobody wants that now do they?

By lance strongarm

November 26, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick has history of self-centered behavior.

In March 2005 a woman named Sonya Elliott filed a civil lawsuit against Vick alleging she contracted genital herpes from Vick, in the autumn of 2002, and that he failed to inform her that he had the disease. Elliot further alleged that Vick had visited clinics under the alias “Ron Mexico” to get treatments and thus he knew of his condition. On April 24, 2006 Vick’s attorney, Lawrence Woodward, revealed that the lawsuit had settled out of court with an undisclosed amount. Too bad Vick can’t pay off the dogs he tortured and murdered.

By Mort Merkel

November 26, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

Jeffrey Dahmer got his start torturing, killing and mutilating animals as a child.

By eagleman

November 26, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

I laugh at anybody who says this is humiliating to Vick. When it’s a standard operating procedure, that’s what it is. It doesn’t matter who you are. People who say if someone did this that was less famous, then they would get off with less. While I don’t believe that to be the case, it would be a welcomed 180. In most areas of life, athletes get a slap on the wrist for their actions. Allen Iverson pointing a gun at someone, Leonard Little two drunken driving incidents (one of which killed a lady), Pacman Jones getting his 50th chance after making a mistake. I could go on and on. The fact of the matter is that athletes are given special treatment because they are public figures and they have money. If you have the right amount of money, you can probably get yourself out of anything - O,J. Simpson anyone?

For Michael Vick, life has been about him from Day 1. He couldn’t really care for anyone else. That’s why he tried to lie to get himself out of the situation. He couldn’t man up and say that he did it. And, how many times was he given a chance to confess? It was only after the other three took plea deals that he took one. If I had done the same thing, do you think I could have gotten a plea deal like he did?

By gabeaux

November 26, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

When he gets out of prison, the punishment should be all over. Vick served his time for the crime. We can boo, we can cheer, whatever, but the punishment should be over. Two years for dog killing is enough. He can’t be punished for his stupidity, if that was the case Lion’s owner William Clay Ford would be in in the cell right next to him.

By ET

November 26, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

The people that I have encountered in my life that enjoy killing animals have always been warped individuals. In children and young adults it often is a precursor to violence towards humans (including murder). Psycologists take animal cruelty seriously because of this.

He broke the law, lied about it to the people who trusted him most, and is paying his pentence. The shackles are not because he is black or because he is being made an example of. He is a felon in prison who was being transported, nothing more. The fact that what he did was utterly disgusting to pet owners who love their pets just makes it that much worse for him.

IF HE WAS A GREEN TRASH COLLECTOR I THINK HE WOULD BE TREATED THE SAME WAY. (I just don’t think the prosecutor would have hugged his mama like the Va. guy did this week if that was the case.)

By Casey

November 26, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Oh get all your verbal jabs in, over and over again like you did during the federal trial, and then try to make up for it now. The fact that he admitted guilt was because he got caught. It still doesn’t deny the fact that he’d still be doing this if he didn’t caught. He is paying his time, and hopefully he does learn, but don’t be a hypocrite and try to kiss his butt now. You struck just like everyone else did while the iron was hot, so don’t try to make it up now. As I did, and I still stand by my disgust for Michael Vick. Your such an awful writer. The only reason I read is to have some ammunition to right how awful you are. I’ll take your salary and position any day and write interesting articles that folks would actually enjoy reading for pleasure instead of something just to have a hatred towards someone.

By moron nation

November 26, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

dick beckley,

How many murderes and animal torturers have you had direct experience with to draw such a conclusion? What’s that? Zero? Oh. OK.

By The Real Truth

November 26, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

You are right. There is no need to humiliate Mike Vick. He humiliated himself.

I am glad he got caught and prosecuted and went to jail. I hope he never plays pro football again and dies as a financially broken drug addict in his old neighborhood with his beloved home boys. He deserves it for what he did to those dogs.

And aren’t the Falcons a much more exciting and disciplined winning team without the thug factor that infected the team for years?

Arthur finally realized that if he got rid of the thugs & quit playing obscene hip hop music, people would come to the games and bring their families.

He realized that if he hired a coach with substantive NFL experience and a qualified general manager, then the Falcons would field a quality competitive team and start winning.

Mike Vick is where he needs to be until he ends up a drug addict in the hood, and behind bars again.

By moron nation

November 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

Unless your are a certified, and qualified psychologist, stop pretending to be one on the internet. You have no idea how murderers and animal torturers behave. You only know what you read on the internet.

If the United States goverment is satisfied with his punishment, then you should be too.

Enjoy your farm raised, and ill-conditioned, tortured turkey this thanksgiving. Nothing says justice like being a hypocrite. If only he had tortured stupid people, instead of dogs, he would be my hero.

By I don't think so

November 26, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Casey,

If that blog you just posted was any indication of your article writing skills, then Terrance has you buried. Stick with being a animal eating hypocrite. It fits you better.

By roman88

November 26, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

he got caught, he’s not remorsful, if not for getting caught he’d still be doing the same things, give ‘em his 40 acres and a mule and he and terrence can ride out in the sunshine

By falcon guy

November 26, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

For crying out loud Mr. Moore. Please stick to sports.

By Hollywould

November 26, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

He deserves a second chance(not in atlanta) but can you imagine the PR nightmare it will be? PETA will not quit until he gets down on his knees and begs forgivness. I don’t think it is fair but it is what it is. One blogger said Blank should give him another chance to show the blacks who buy tickets his gratitude. That is crap. Blank does not owe you or anybody anything in that respect. That is your perogotive if you want to buy tickets.

By vick_fan

November 26, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

you people are funny he has paid his debt to society and has hit rock bottom he deserves to resume his life. you act like he is brian nichols or something its just a da@# dog. of all the people trying to throw stones at this guy prob never lost one minute of sleep worrying about dogfighting, i have news for you perfect people dogfighting didnt begin with mike and it wont end because of him i hope yall dont claim to be christians!!!

By J.C.

November 26, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Most serial killers get their start by torturing and executing animals. Bundy, Gacy, Lucas, etc. all began their killing ways with animals. Look what happened whenever they weren’t convicted in a court of law for it. As far as the supposed humiliation angle goes, well, tough. Vick is a convicted felon, and it is procedure to handcuff and leg iron a felon whenever they make a court trip, medical trip, or any other trip outside the secure confines of the institution that they are assigned to. Maybe if better security procedures were followed in the Brian Nichols case, the court system in Atlanta wouldn’t be a laughing stock right now. Think about that.

By Behind Enemy Lines

November 26, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Humiliate? He’s still got brain dead thugs willing to excuse his every action. Seems to me that he hasn’t been villified remotely adequately.

He’s a worthless piece of sub-human garbage who should have gotten exactly what he gave to the dogs, except exponentially. Instead of defenses of him, the only thing about him that should ever appear in the media again is his obituary, which will be the only good thing to ever come from his life.

By Herschel Talker

November 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Terence sucks

By ET

November 26, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Hey Moron (nation)…I personally knew 2 boys in my school who would torture squirrels at recess. Both are in prison as we speak. They took a hand gun and blew an old man’s head off for $25, 2 sandwichs & a six pack of beer. They were caught because they left the empty cans with their finger prints on them (morons as well). Please tell me I have no experience with that.

I am totally amazed that you know what I and the other posters degrees are in & how we obtained our information. I guess I waisted all those years in college when all I had to do is wait for the internet to come along to get the info from some wipedia site to sound professional.

You won’t beleive anything that disproves your silly hypotheses anyway. You no longer exist to me…My life is better already. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!

By AAC

November 26, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Isn’t one of the signs of a psychopath the torture and killing of animals? Why are we just saying prison time is enough? M. Vick needs to be in serious court ordered therapy when he is released from prison and is living in a half-way house. Mr. Moore, how do you know M. Vick will stop this behavior since he has served his time? There are no guaranties he won’t do this again. After all, he did this for 7 years! Who’s to say he won’t abuse his kids? He let his pets be tortured. This is a shocking crime. Preying on the weak, when you are charged to protect and care for your animals. Even his fighting dogs. Every kid knows you do not kick and hurt a dog. Somehow the compassion gene is not in this man. Vick only said he was sorry because he was caught; the evidence was overwhelming that he was guilty as charged.

By TOBY

November 26, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

i AM A WHITE GUY WHO FINALLY AGREES WITH YOU. MICHAEL HOLD YOUR HEAD UP WE HAVE ALL FAILED FROM TIME TO TIME, THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO POINT A FINGER ARE HOLDING ON TO THEIR OWN GUILT BECAUSE IT IS EASIER TO POINT A FINGER THAN ADMIT YOUR OWN MISTAKES GOD BLESS

By stuart big

November 26, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Vick was the kingpin of a dogfighting organization. He funded it. He didn’t just kill a few dogs (which for me is enough to lock him up) He bankrolled the operation, causing the sadistic training, torture, and murder of who knows how many dogs. Lots of people have gone to prison longer for lesser offenses. Public humiliation is needed for this guy.

By Because it Matters

November 26, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

The biggest sign of a psychpath is not how they treat animals, but it is their treatment of human beings that make them standout.

Check out some the criteria: 1. Callous unconcern for the feelings of others and lack of the capacity for empathy. 2. Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations. 3. Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships. 4. Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression, including violence. 5. Incapacity to experience guilt and to profit from experience, particularly punishment. 6. Marked proneness to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for the behavior bringing the subject into conflict. 7. Persistent irritability.

Now read the anti Vick comments and you’ll see that it’s not Mike Vick we have to worry. Cruelty alone does not equal psychopathology. But boy oh boy, read the words of these supposedly righteous folk and it becomes clear through their own words that they are cruel to humans, lack empathy, are easily and always irritable, etc…….

Racism is a mental, social, emotional, and spiritual defect. Y’all shouldn’t be commenting on Vick because it just puts an exclamation point by you!

By ET

November 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

Hey AAC…You are right. The killing aspect of this behavior shows that the individual puts no value on life. The fact that they derive some sort of pleasure from the torture aspect is far more troubling.

It’s one thing to kill an animal for food or even sport (still for food presumably), but to gain any kind of pleasure out of watching any animal suffer (like these dogs did) shows a truly sick mind.

I don’t hate Mike Vick. I hate what Mike Vick did. I agree that he needs some sort of psychological help when he gets out. I don’t think this type of behavior is immune to therapy (such as Pedophilia), but he has issues that haven’t been addressed yet in my opinion.

By Something To Think About

November 26, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

What Michael Vick did was a very bad thing but he is trying to make-up for the mistake of contributing to the harm of several dogs.

But I guess some mistakes are just unforgiveable and that is the reason that some people of African descent find it so hard to forgive their oppressors for the horrors of slavery (hangings, beating, drowning) of humans.

So if people can’t forgive Michael Vick they should clearly understand why some people can’t forgive for the human injustices of slavery.

Just Something To Think About!

By Disambiguation of the masses.

November 26, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

There are a lot of hard unforgiving hearts in Atlanta,which is also the psychological construct of psychopathy.

By Disambiguation of the masses.

November 26, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Hate is not the answer.

By Terence Moore

November 26, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

I think one of the keys to how well Michael Vick adjusts out of prison will be Michael Vick. If he continues to show that he truly has repented, I believe that he’ll win folks over.

It might take a while to do so for the masses, but likely not as long as some might believe.

By simple common sense

November 26, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

The man has learned his lesson,back off already.

By drow

November 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

You all are talking about how bad this guy has treated dogs. How about the deers, chickens and other animals that have been used to produce entertainment for an audience long before Vick was thought about. You person are unbelieve.

By WHAT ?

November 26, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

I cant believe you just wrote that a man who is currently incarcerated does not belong in a pair of hand cuffs and leg shackles when he is outside the confines of his cell and prison walls, while in a public court room pleaing to state charges. Maybe they should have had a couch, some wine, and a bigol blunt waiting for him in the court room right? Your an idiot.

By I Understand

November 26, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Something to Think About:

You may have the best point out of any blogger on this particular subject. However; I don’t believe people should be hated by what their ancestors did generations ago and I certainly don’t believe in judging people by the color of their skin.

In Vicks case, some of the racist comments are def uncalled for but he certainly brought this on himself. I don’t believe in humiliating him at all and I would feel the exact same way if he was Spanish, Asian, White, whatever. At least in my eyes this is a case of an Extremely popular athlete doing one of the worst things people can do. I know people can do worse but this was pretty bad and we all if he wasn’t who he is his punishment would be even worse.

Just wish these blogs could be about the topic and not race. Its sad for everyone it is

By fred

November 26, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

vick is a thug and will alaways be a thug he will get into trouble again wait and see

By CT

November 26, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

No need to humiliate Vick?

Yes there is.

By mars

November 26, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

It’s time to move on. Vick deserves a chance to put his life together. Everyone deserves a second chance. Not in the NFL, though. Children idolize NFL players, and they need to learn that society will not tolerate wrongdoing. The man has a college education. Now is the time to apply it to make a living.

By H2

November 26, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

All, it’s time to get off our soap boxes (on both sides of this issue). It happened, and the man is paying his debt to society. Looks like we (the public) are making more of the issue now than the person who is in jail…isn’t that ironic. So, just look at it for what is is and was…animal abuse and a crime. This is supposed to be a nation of civilized persons of all persuasions (for those who’d like to make this about Vick’s color. Dog fighting is “dumb” no matter what color the Good LORD happens to make you.

I wish the man well. Hopefully he’s learned his lesson. If he hasn’t, we all know too well what will become of him. Let him play football again, there are others a lot worse, and who have portrayed themselves in a worse light than Vick.

As much as I love pets (dogs are my favorite)…it was only about dogs! Maybe we should someday call another “Man” “A man’s best friend.”

Think about it!

By Tech75

November 26, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

TI had it right.

He deserves every bit if what he is getting.

That’s what’s wrong with America. No real accountability for unacceptable behavior.

This guy is (was?) looked up to by kids all over the country, and now we know he lied, lied, lied and killed dogs, and after a little bit of jail time you all want to soft on him?

BS. You’re all wimps.

By ET

November 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Hey “Something To Think About” : It wasn’t “several dogs”… he pleaded guilty to helping kill 9 dogs personally. Plus there were many more that his money funded.

You make it sound like he took a few dogs to a fight. He systematically killed dogs that weren’t vicious enough to win fights. This whole dog fighting ring was funded by him. Again it wasn’t “several dogs”.

I agree that when he finishes his sentence then he should be given a second chance, but I will not let any one rush me into accepting his apology until I can see remorse and a change of heart from this man.

Mr. Blank wants him to have a second chance also, but he wants no part of Mr. Vick again. He saw this man look him in the eye and lie like a felon, which he is. I feel the same way. He lied to me as well. I bought into it as did Mr. Blank. I won’t let anonymous posters shame me into changing my mind by calling me a racist, I don’t care if he is green, blue yellow etc. I need to see that he has changed to accept him.

Because I don’t want him on the Falcons again does not make me racist or a psycho either. It makes me someone who sticks to his moral beliefs. America does not care about that anymore evidently. They just try to brand you as a radical, a racist and they smear you with lies because that is all they have.

I don’t hate the man, I hate the actions of the man.

By Rodney

November 26, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

You are correct when you said law enforcement officials will say they were only following protocol. Rules are rules and Vick is no different than any other prisoner who enters that court room. If the rules say all prisoners will be handcuffed and shackled then so will Vick. He is no different than anyone else. Its not humiliation, its just Vick being treated like everyone else.

By The Truth

November 26, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

He’d make a good running back in the arena league.

By NGB

November 26, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Yeah,there’s no use in treating him like a dog

By tim

November 26, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

ah you’re breaking my heart..maybe he’s getting just a little taste of how those dogs felt..no pity for the lousy scum!you get what you give!

By Al Sharpton

November 26, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

What have you got against activist trying to make a couple of bucks,for the people

By drmiked

November 26, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

“dogfighting stuff” - says a lot about your character, Mr. Moore.

By Something To Think About

November 26, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Hey ET, I got it wrong there were 9 or 10 dogs he personally casued harm to and numerous others. But, I keep thinking about the Millions of human lives that were done the same way and some even worst.

Again, you are saying that it is okay for them (descendents of slaves)to continue holding their oppressors accountable form the harm they casued them.

Remember that humans were done they same way so does that mean its okay to harbor unforgiveness. No!!!!!!

Something To Think About

By Skydawg

November 26, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Boo-freakin-hoo!!! So let me get this straight. We should feel sorry for Vick and he shouldn’t be humiliated? First of all the humiliation was self-inflicted. Second of all, do you think Vick thought twice about humiliating Arthur Blank, Rich McKay, his teammates and the entire city of Atlanta? I didn’t think so.

So when he serves his time, then he has served his time. Until then, let him be treated like any other federal convict. But don’t think for a second that some of his behavior will not be repeated. All you have to do is look at this brother. When you have no moral fiber, you have no moral fiber.

By Ed Amiss Jr

November 26, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Mike has paid his due. In fact many times over.Leave the man alone. Members of PETA should get a life. Enough is enough.

By tony

November 26, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

terrence, this is a red state that hasn’t got pass the abolishment of slavery so don’t expect these slave minded southerners to feel any sympathy for a young black who is paying for his crime.

u got some saying he deserve to be humiliate for killing dogs, but u never hear anyone say humiliate the dear killers. they go all over the world to stop foreigners from killing whales, apes and many other animale, but it’s ok for them to kill innocent dears and alligators for their souvenirs.

i hate what mike done to his dogs and i also hate the dear killers for hunting down innocent dears to decorate their walls. STOP KILLING INNOCENT DEARS FOR THEIR HEADS!

By mike

November 26, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

good article terrance.. I am a good ol white boy from the south and all my friends hunt.. what is the difference??!!!!!! first of all i agree what michael vick did was wrong.. but he has paid his debt to society..PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY NEED TO GET OVER THEIR DOG FETISH. ITS DISGUSTING. people are crazy about dogs and want to see a man rot in prison. PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES LAUGH AT US BC WE CARE MORE ABOUT ANIMALS THAN HUMANS. michael vick has paid his debt to society and should be let free immediately. Even the local prosecutor in VA (poindexter) said he has never seen the FEDS come in on a misdemeanor offense (they changed it to Conspiracy to make it a FED case). The Feds made their point whatever it was and now Vick should be allowed to join society. Murderers and rapists get less flack from the general public than Michael Vick does. absolutely ridiculous. all you people claiming Vick is a psychopath are ridiculous as well.. michael vick grew up in a lower class home and background where dog fighting was not frowned upon (although it should have been) it was normal in his neighborhood..just like kissing your dog in the mouth and let it lick your face is NORMAL TO YOU (its not by the way). Free Michael Vick. Incarcerate the CEO’s that are stealing from middle class americans!!!!!

By ET

November 26, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Terrence…

You might be right, but only if Mike confronts his problems with PETA first. If he goes to them and says “look, what I did was oh so wrong. I’ll do what ever you guys want me to do. I’ll cut commercials, go on tour, write a book…you name it I’ll do it.” If he doesn’t then he will be dogged (pun intended) by them for ever and ever. Trouble with that is I don’t necessarily agree with PETA and their tactics. They would kill people to save animals & that doesn’t make sense to me either.

Mike must also sit down with Mr. Blank and truly apologize. He also has the commish to apologize to. He probably already has done this, but it needs to happen again.

Last but not least he needs to face the public on talk radio, the night shows, ESPN,`etc. because there are a lot of dog owners out there who can’t understand how a human with a soul can treat another living being in such a manner.

We will be the hardest to convince that he truly has changed. Too many of us think he is only sorry that he got caught & that he would still be doing it if he hadn’t been caught. We have to see into his soul to believe. That isn’t easy to accomplish. (Just ask Pres. Bush when he thought he was looking into Putin’s soul)