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Florida celebration backfiring on Dogs

Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but probably not. Ever since Georgia’s silliness in the end zone last season against Florida, the Bulldogs have gone from ranking as one of the most disciplined teams in the country to whatever they are now.

Whatever they are now isn’t pretty, by the way. They are the only Division I-A football team in double digits (11) when it comes to the average number of penalties per game. They have more penalties overall than anybody not named TCU (67 to 64). They also have an absolutely ridiculous number of personal fouls (13) after six games.

“I don’t think [the Florida game] had anything to do with this, but I guess it’s up for people to debate,” said Georgia coach Mark Richt on Wednesday, despite the overwhelming numbers that show there isn’t a debate. We’ll share those numbers in a moment, but Richt wished to add, “I do know that since the Florida game, we’ve won, what, 12 out of 13 or 13 out of 14 [actually it’s 10 out of 11]? I don’t know what that record is, but you might want to throw that in there.”

Duly noted. The same goes for this: Only one team had more penalties than LSU last season, but the Tigers still won the national championship. The previous year, no one was penalized more than the Gators, but Florida also won it all.

It’s just that neither LSU nor Florida (both averaged eight penalties for 63 yards per game) was penalized anything close to Georgia’s current rate of 11 penalties for an average of 86 yards per game.

None of this should be surprising. A guy predicted such sloppiness for Georgia a year ago in Jacksonville.

I was that guy, and I wrote during the short-sighted joy after Georgia whipped Florida for just the third time in 18 tries: “So much for discipline, poise and class. They could return as staples of Georgia’s football program under Mark Richt, but it’ll take a while. They vanished on Saturday at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium, where the Bulldogs kept making fools of themselves early and often. They were fools by choice. That’s the scary thing.”

It was this scary: Richt ordered his players during the week to storm the field after their first touchdown. He suggested that they go nuts enough to force officials to litter the stadium with flags. It happened, and what was a composed group under Richt during his previous six seasons at Georgia became a bunch of self-inflicted crazies.

Against Florida, Georgia had seven penalties for 77 yards. That included four personal fouls, ranging from Mohamed Massaquoi nearly triggering worse than Florida boos with his version of the Gator Chomp to two facemask penalties by Bulldogs on the same kickoff.

And consider this: In the seven games before Florida last season, Georgia had an average of six penalties for 43 yards per game. In the five games after Florida last season, Georgia had an average of eight penalties for 76 yards per game.

Those numbers are much uglier this season. That’s because since Richt built and then turned his red-and-black monster loose against Florida, he hasn’t been able to tame it. “Even the smallest of penalties can make the biggest of differences. We know that,” Richt said. “But I do believe that we are getting better, and we’ll continue to get better at reducing them.”

The Bulldogs haven’t a choice. Otherwise, that red-and-black monster will keep chomping away at their title hopes.

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By Winner

October 15, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this

First

By gregodawg

October 15, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Wow.

By animaldr

October 15, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

Am I about to agree with T. Moore? Well, almost. I think there is one other component- In the referee fraternity, UGA has a horrible rep. And that stems from the Fla. game antics. They come in with the expectation of fouls and once that is their reality- they catch them all and cut UGA no breaks.

By Steven Wingate

October 15, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

So basically whenever anybody bad happens to UGA you’re going to blame the Florida game for as long as it takes in an effort to prove yourself….okay.

By BB

October 15, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

ah, the typical T. Moore “bash the local team” column.

YAWN.

It was time for my daily negativity session anyway. now, I can get on with my evening.

By Halsey

October 15, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

I think the constant changes in lineman has at least something to do with it. They have been constantly making changes on both lines due to injuries and are have to play young lineman a lot. They’ll be another new starting O-line arrangement vs Vandy and there have been at least 4 different guys starting at DE this season.

By bprice22

October 15, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

“Terence this is stupid stuff.” One, Richt did not order the players to storm the field. He told them to get an excessive celebration penalty. Stop being the only guy in the country, besides Urban Meyer, who thinks the endzone celebration was a bad move. It was a brilliant move. We took back the playground, and got rid of all that Jacksonville hoo doo that had plagued this program for 18 years. We went from being a lousy team to a great team. The penalty problem, this year, has nothing to do with Jax. It’s just a chance for another I-told-you-so by a sportswriter who gets off goading Georgia fans and DVRs Jim Rome.

By DurhamDawg

October 15, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

I guess Terrence and Urban Meyer are the only 2 people left on this earth that still haven’t gotten over last year’s celebration. Terrence, you continue to miss the point of the whole celebration to begin with. It was meant to invoke excitement and emotion into the team which to that point the team was lacking. It was meant to be the 11 players on the field, not the entire team. It was NOT meant to be disrespectful. It has NOTHING to do with our current penalty problem, so please quit trying to use penalty flags as an excuse to write about what you’ve already written about a hundred times. We know you didn’t like the celebration………..GET OVER IT!!!

By Ted Striker

October 15, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

TM, you’re beating the same old drum — except you’re off-tempo on this particular subject. Again. As so many have pointed out in the past, Richt didn’t order his entire team to “storm the field.”

Are you saying he’s lying? Say it then.

He’s gone on record. If you’re holding forth that Richt ordered the entire team out on the field, go all out. Say “I know Richt said he didn’t but I don’t believe him.”

But you won’t…you haven’t…well — why not? Terence. Buddy. Explain it to me.

You’re MAN ENOUGH to write what you want to write. Yet you have inconsistencies. You’re don’t appear man enough to leave posting open like your colleagues. Explain THAT.

I don’t think you’re a coward, but it’s difficult to respect a guy who won’t take his licks like everyone else.

Hey, I don’t have to agree with you to respect you. Nor do I have to respect you to agree with you. But I’d like to respect you. And you’re making it difficult — because you don’t allow an open forum.

As for your topic — “Florida is backfiring on the Dogs” — blah bloo blah. You’ve had better. You’re capable of better. You said before the season UGA wouldn’t go undefeated because their schedule was too difficult. So, bask in the glory of being right rather than the shadows of being scurrilous about the facts.

By Maryland Dawg

October 15, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this

This is such insightful journalism.

By Mikey in the SAV

October 15, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

The penalties are a problem but to suggest they are ALL derived from the FL game LAST year is about as useless as a rape whistle on Rosie O Donnell’s key chain. If there were an abundance of personal fouls you could say that UGA is undisciplined. False starts,offsides holding, and pass interference can hardly be called thuggery as you suggest.

Great commentary, Clarence.

By pj

October 15, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Simply another shot by Terrance to increase response. The ajc isn’t going to fire Terrance… we just need to stop complaining.

Clap….. clap…. clap. Good effort buddy. Folks, stop taking the bait.

By Facts Apparently Don't Matter

October 15, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Look, I’ll allow you your thesis…..a lax in discipline has created discipline problems. However, your persistent mischaracterization of this Florida incident has reached proportions only rivaled by guys running for President.

You may be right in your assertion, but why don’t you stick to the facts and let the data you present (in case you don’t know what that is…..its the statistics) speak for themselves.

You represent the worst, the absolute worst that journalism has become in this country. Throw out a few opinions disguised as fact, couple it with some emotionally charged rhetoric (usually centered on BLAMING someone for a problem), and the result…..journalistic brilliance.

Unbelievable…..and to think…..newspapers are going out of business…..I wonder why?

By CDawgs8

October 15, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

We only have one loss since the Florida game.. Why do you always hate on the Dawgs? It was a great moivation that fueled our team last year.. Give CMR some creit and quit hating!! Im always a big supporter of the AJC writers, but come on now Terence..

By BurtDawg

October 15, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

This is about the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time. It sounds like a vague attempt to insinuate that UGA is now a bunch of thugs. You list the stat that good teams can have an overabundance of flags, so I just don’t get how the celebration thing can be tied to the penalty’s of this year. So dumb…..

By Eric C.

October 15, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

Terence,

The only things completely negative since the UF victory concerning UGA have been your posts. Is this your part in a rendition of a “good cop/bad cop” routine, or do you actually feel so much resentment toward Mark Richt and UGA for the Dawgs’ beating of your beloved Gators???

Honestly, you should know that the Bulldogs get victimized by the refs anyway at Jacksonville…they might as well milk it for all they can.

As for this season…the penalties suck and the coaches and players know that. I’d say they made fewer “stupid” penalties in the last game…and they are working hard on rectifying the problem.

By James

October 15, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

Terence ….. Oh Terence You know exactly what you are.

By mooreisdumb

October 15, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

UGH, another stupid story by a stupid man. Please quit your job, you are terrible at it. If you really think a game last year where UGA had a lot of penalties has anything to do with a team having a lot this year then you have obviously never played football or understand the game. Please retire. And if you write these stories just to get people angry, and get some sort of joy out of that then you are just a child and once again prove you are not a professional.

By gomdawg

October 15, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

You are STUPID THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FLORIDA GAME.The Vandy game is next on our list so don;t go tring to get to the Florida game until it gets here.

By Rob

October 15, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Moore actually said it right. No Class. No Discipline.

By Alphar

October 15, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

I’ll make a prediction of this year’s GA-FL score: 43-23 in favor of Florida. Every FL player will be pumped up to beat GA to avenge last year’s celebration.

By Bill

October 15, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

This is silly. Asanine.

By Swamp Chomper

October 15, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Mighty Georgia. oh boy….yawnnnn

Florida has been thinking about one of your penalties for about 1 year now. Get ready for another embarassing Alabama style whipping. Maybe wear your black jerseys, I don’t know.

By Name

October 15, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

I have trouble seeing how a wild celebration from a game last year would cause a guy to false start or make a chop block or commit pass interference in a game this year. I just don’t think there’s much correlation.

By murfdawg

October 15, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Terence,

While I commend you for doing a little research, I have done a little more. In the first 7 games in 2007(before the Fla game) UGA was penalized 43 times and their opponents 45 times. after the “silly celebration” as you call it, in the next 11 games, UGA was penalized 102 time and their opponents 64 times. This is a preposterous disparity in officiating. Looking a little closer, Penn Wagers and his crew were responsible for 17 penalties against UGA, Steve Shaw and his crew were responsible for 16. Marc Curles and his crew called the Ole Miss game last year and called 3 penalties on UGA. In the Bama game this year they called 10 on UGA and 2 on Bama. Only one was a judgement call. The other one was when the ball fell off the tee.

My point is that UGA embarrassed the officials at Fla and have paid the price. However, UGA did win 10 out of 11 of those games. I am not saying that the officials cost UGA the Bama game,but they did have a monumental influence on the first quarter.

Mark Richt is too classy to go after the officials, but I’m not. These are the hard facts and you can look them up. Try writing about how UGA is cleaning up their act and the officials may buy into it. And maybe you will also.

By ROLL_TIDE

October 15, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

Thank you Terence for writing a truthful story on this situation, and not one clouded in “Uga self-proclaimed awesomeness”.

GREAT JOB!

By Robert

October 15, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

Again with the UGA Bashing…

By wildboar

October 15, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

Terrence, I’m a huge dawg fan. I really have no idea why you would spew such hatred towards Georgia. I come to the AJC first for my sports. I don’t expect to read something like this. Why? Please explain.

By harleyman

October 15, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Shut up Terrance!

By Eddie

October 15, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Great article Terence! I can’t wait to hear Uga fans cry about this one! I love it!

By Mark Bittner

October 15, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Ummmm…I disagree.

By John

October 15, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, It must have been a slow day. That logic is absurd!

By Baiju

October 15, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

First poster! Yeah what up! Alright, now getting ready to watch the debate!

GO DAWGS!

By don't waste your typing

October 15, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Why not write about something meaningful if you are going to take time to type?

By southgadawg

October 15, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

I am not a regular blog reader and even I am getting tired of Terence writing about the Florida celebration. Enough already! I guess the stock market crash is also a result of the Ga celebration since the economy started its downward spiral the moment Ga stormed the field. Give me a break!

By mark

October 15, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

T., you are spot on. It is karma.

If the “celebration” was ok, or “inspirational” was ok, or the “motivational technique” was ok, or “anything goes” was ok, or “the ends justify the means” was ok, or “f**k off miserable Gator losers” was ok, or “who cares, whe won” was ok, or “CMR is a class guy (except for this one time)” is ok, or if “CMR is a good Christian guy and wouldn’t dare do anything untoward (WWJD)” is ok, or if “etc.”… are ok, then what do you expect?

No class, one win, no NC. Or as another UGA dad and closely nelated son recently said about 50-60 miles away, “He got what he deserved!”

By Jamal

October 15, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Penalties will decrease throughout the rest of the season. Thanks for the invaluable insight though!

By LD

October 15, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Absurd. Georgia was an absolutely passionless team before the Florida game last year that had gotten blown out in two games against opponents they were better than on paper, looking listless in the process. Then they win in the clutch at Vandy, hammer Florida, and went on to win the Sugar Bowl. There’s no question that ‘silliness’ Georgia displayed in the end zone in Jacksonville that day set the tone for a successful 2nd half of the season.

Do the penalties hurt? No question in the Alabama game they did. In ten other games they didn’t. I say the ‘silliness’ is not in what the Dawgs do on the field, but in the AJC sportswriters’ offices.

By KJF

October 15, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

Mr.Moore,

I think your on to something! Georgia’s record has been a terrible 10-1 since that Florida game! You have identified a serious issue with the Bulldogs and have found a hole in their armor. I’m thinking that if they would have stayed on the sideline in the 2007 Florida game they would have had a great first half against Alabama in 2008! How much do you get paid to wrte this stuff?

By Kevin

October 15, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

I think Terence gets paid by the number of responses he gets to these ridiculous articles. Terence picks the most absurd title to get the UGA — in this case challenge our coach which forces us to defend Richt. I wish I lived in a town with professional sports writers who analyzed, say, the upcoming game or a special player on the team. This drivel is what I’d expect to find in a small town like, say, Macon’s paper — but believe it or not, Macon has the better content. What is Terrence’s point here? Richt is a bad coach who can’t control his players? Geesh, I hear better trash talk from any GT alumni any day of the week. .

By ENCROACHMENT

October 15, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

COACH RICHT IS NOW A WILD AND CRAZY GUY

By Bill Smith

October 15, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

Terence, I agree. Richt changed a bit of the character’s team during that game. He also changed the type of recruits he is willing to bring in. Meyer has held back much of the Gator offense for two games this year- LSU and UGA. Scary what they did to LSU and UGA will be blown out. Richt will be Tommy Bowden in a few years- looking for a job.

By Thinking Man

October 15, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

I guess what you learn at FSU (ACC) carried over to UGA (SEC). Oh, and by the way, why is it that UGA fans don’t consider Tech a rival, but they do consider UF a rival and they have only one 3 of the last 18? More of that higher level thinking at UGA.

By Whopper Dawg

October 15, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Terence,

Wow, what a stretch. The Dawgs have a severe penalty problem and they better fix it, but pegging it to FLA is a joke.

Whopper Dawg

By DenverDawg

October 15, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

Once we get this talented team under control, we’ll be scary good… quit worrying & quit whining

By John

October 15, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

Seriously? Wow. Your editors should send you to a journalism and writing seminar sometime soon.

Terrence, I’m sure there may be a Florida paper or two that has an opening. Or anywhere else. You sure don’t seem to want to be in Atlanta.

By Dan

October 15, 2008 8:54 PM | Link to this

Yawn!

By benadawg

October 15, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

You are so right on, it started in Florida, but i believe the officials are watching more as a result. I for one believe that Alabama was called for holding numerous times in their next game after Georgia because the officials reviewed themselves and probably should have called holding on Bama more in the Georgia game. Penn Wager should recuse himself from Georgia Games.

By BigP

October 15, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

Hello! Anybody home? Gee TM I guess you ran em all off. I think this years game in J’Ville could turn real ugly for somebody. It will likely be a 4 hour game and the zebras will have back aches after picking up their hankies a hundred times.

By Enjoy

October 15, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

Can’t wait to hear the bashing that shall come forth…….

By aaron

October 15, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

hey Terence, do you EVER write anything positive about the Dawgs? jeez, you should host an espn show, you’d fit right in.

By JDW

October 15, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Dear TM, please let me be the first to say you are a moron. Please go back to Big 10 Country at your first opportunity.

By ebdawg

October 15, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Once again TM, you miss the mark. Georgia is 5-1, not 1-5. It was obviously a slow sports day at the AJC if this is all you could come up with. Ridiculous. Did Urban Meyer write this for you. You sound like him. What UGA did in Jascksonville last year was awesome. It set the tone for the game, and Florida was stunned by what happened then, and the remainder of the game. CMR will take care of the penalties. Please, go write about Tech football… you obviously know nothing about Georgia football.

By AJ

October 15, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

I never respond to your idiocy, but now feel compelled. Two plus two does not equal five. Does this team need more discipline as to penalties? Yes. Is it because they were incredibly fired up for UF one year ago? No. And at least get your facts straight. Richt didn’t tell the team to “storm the field”, he told them to celebrate. I know facts don’t get in the way of your “writing”, but worth noting.

By koolamonga

October 15, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

Why are you even here? You and Tucker should just leave…at least the state…I mean…if you think it stinks..why smell it????

By Win

October 15, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

Terrance Moore is a joke! One penalty last year is causing the rash of penalties this year? Yeah right!

By brian

October 15, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

I never write in comments and always see where everyone gets on your case… finally, enough…. it is amazing to me that someone could actually make a living writing the kind of crap that you write. If you hate all things Southern…. all things Georgia (UGA, Tech, Falcons, etc.) take a hike. You sir are an argument for educated idiots.

By USAFdawg757

October 15, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

The man is an idiot. He makes my blood boil and his writing career is built on making readers so mad they can’t HELP but read his columns. HOWEVER, he is right in his theory. CMR had a good idea that was taken a little too far and now the Dawgs are paying a dear price for it. The officials are on top of every mistake they make and I HOPE it doesn’t cost us a shot at a championship. (GOOD LORD, I just defended Terrence Moore. The WORLD must be ending…)

By Keith

October 15, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Amazing, Terrence, that you pat yourself on the back for a moronic statement.

It just amazes me even more that the AJC wastes a spot for you that should to a more deserving younger African-american journalist.

By PaulDawg

October 15, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

Please state the facts. Richt did not “order his players to storm the field”. Also, please make sure you subtract 3 penalties from last week’s total for the delay of game penalties. Those had a purpose. Or maybe Richt wanted to delay the game to stick it to the networks and extend the game. Sounds absurd, huh? Just as absurd as saying the celebration has put them where they are today. You just look for anything to stir the pot.

By GT63

October 15, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this

Keep up the good work puppies,because we will pluck your hedges after the game..Nothing like the smell of fresh plucked hedges. It’s been a while,but Nov. 29 is very close…..Make sure the gardener keeps them good and fresh!

By charliedawg

October 15, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

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By Ga Girl 58

October 15, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this

You are an idiot Terrence Moore…..that sums it up!!!!

By Go2gator

October 15, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

The red and black will need all the help they can get in Jax this year.YES, UGA will pay dearly for that little shenanigan.BOOK on it PUPS!!

By Brad

October 15, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Terence, you sure get a kick out of firing everyone up. I guess it’s your way of staying employed in a rough market. Barnhart goes, but you stay. My oh my.

I’ll agree with you the Dawgs are hurting themselves with penalties, but using that to bait the masses is bush-league also (your referral to the Dawgs’ antics last year).

Richt made a mistake ordering the celebration, he admitted as much (although it worked). The game and rivalry exist anyway. Both teams want the win badly. Does UGA’s end zone stunt really give UF an edge this year as you suggest? No more than Spurrier’s barbs ever helped UGA. The best team will win, period. A grasping article, Terence. You can do better.

By Unfortunate Truth

October 15, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

Georgia wins, you criticize.

Georgia loses, you criticize.

Do us all a favor and just shut the hell up.

By Fecil

October 15, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

Not sure how you link something that happened last season, with last year’s team, to a penalty problem with this year’s team…Oh, wait I do—your job is to provoke people and generate response, even at the price of logic. This is why I have zero respect for sportswriters who play that game, which is most of them, and all the ones at AJC.

By G'Vegas Dawg

October 15, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this

I was wondering where Mr. Pesimistic has been. Then, on none other than National Grouch Day, he rears his ugly head. Nothing good to say about anyone from the state of Ga at all EVER!!! I haven’t seen this idiot say one good thing about the Falcons since they have been turning things around, ditto for Ga Tech. PLEASE go back to Indiana!!!

By gatrent

October 15, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Well said, Terence, well said.And you know what else?What goes around, comes around.This time it will be the Gators withh the last laugh, but not by clowning in the end zone like they’ve never been there before…This time, it’ll be the Gators making the Alabama team look like a sandlot team compared to the complete and utter payback for that litle stunt last year. See you Nov 1st in Jax, Dawgs….

By jrmdvm1

October 15, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, Please get your facts straight. Coach Richt did tell his team to get a celebration penalty. He did NOT tell them to “storm the field”. Unless you have a witness who heard otherwise, I must believe Mark Richt’s version of what he claims was told to his team. To continue to claim what you are claiming without evidence to back it up borders on libel, and is certainly poor journalism. Certainly, what didn’t transpire that day is a credit to both teams. Neither team allowed the situation to escalate, which certainly could have happened. Coach Richt was willing to take the consequences in the game for that action, and UGA was penalized heavily after the celebration. I don’t believe that the penalties this year are in any way related to what happened after that touchdown. What were UGA’s penalty statistics for the rest of the 2007 season? If there were truly a cause and effect relationship, then UGA would have been leading the country in penalties for the rest of last year as well.

If there is a relationship at all, it may be that since that game, officials have “watched” UGA more closely and not given any “benefit of the doubt” to UGA compared to other teams. Your words seem to imply that the UGA players now are deliberately committing penalties because they don’t care about the rules anymore. I feel confident in assuring you that all of those young men have the goal of winning games, and all of them have been playing this sport long enough to realize that penalties can make the difference in winning or losing. To suggest that they don’t care about penalties is to suggest that they have no desire to win their games.

By dan

October 15, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

You are a very sick man. Your columns paint a story of you more clearly than the spors siuations that you try to report on…

By Canton Dawg

October 15, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Terrance……LET IT GO!!! We get the point…you didn’t like the celebration. Bottom line…did LSU have similar celebration when they lead in penalties and won the national championship, did Florida have a similar celebration when they lead the country…NO! So don’t try to tie the two together. Two Facts: 1.UGA has penalty problems. 2.They had a ONE OF A KIND and ONE TIME ONLY special (illegal) team celebration. Are the two related, most likely not. What is the next issue that you will use to push your disdain for the ONE TIME EVENT? Move on, find something else negative to point out about the Georgia program.

By scdawgfan

October 15, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this

for the life of me i don’t know why i am responding to anything you would write but here it goes. are we suffering as a result of our actions last year in j-town? i don’t know but it’s had to argue with the facts isn’t it. funny thing about it is, it was a mighty good trade off in my opinion. ok, so we are “targeted” now but after all of the years of having to put up with all of the crap from florida it was a welcomed site. almost like twisted sister and we’re not going to take it anymore! see mr. moore, what happened was georgia finally said enough is enough. a line was drawn in the sand. we’ve taken so much of the gators crap over the years and that team last year put a stop to it. to be honest i don’t know which was better the end zone party or the MoMass gator chomp. but in the end, they backed it up and won the game. and continued with that swagger for the rest of the year. that’s what i’m waiting to see out of this years team. that same swagger we had at the end of last season. if they find it the rest of the sec had better be ready. so, i guess what i’m saying is if we’re paying for it now then it was well worth it. and let’s all be honest with ourselves. will any of us forget that day in jacksonville for the rest of our lives? when our beloved dawgs finally said enough is enough.

By Glenn

October 15, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this

Get over Moore cant you find something else to write about. People like you make a mountain out of a mole hill. You must be a bleeding heart democrat. There are to many positive things to write about my DAWGS. GO GO GO GO GO BULLDAWGS……………

By gjg

October 15, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

BORING…..

By theatty

October 15, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

As is often said - holding can be called on most every play in football. Thus, it is most often referee discretion that factors into penalties. If the referee’s were and are p** off by the Florida game antics - I say oh well. It broke a psychological barrier and we have been extremely productive ever since. If high penalties lead to the national championship - then hold ‘em, interfere with ‘em and just win baby!

By True Braves Fan

October 15, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

bprice22 wrote

” Stop being the only guy in the country, besides Urban Meyer, who thinks the endzone celebration was a bad move

Not true..It was one the most bush league moves I ever saw…Very unprofessional on the part of a SEC Coach. I don’t think Vince Dooley would have ever done anyhing like that.

By Georgia Girl

October 15, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

I bet the economy’s falter also stems back to Georgia rushing the endzone. And what about global warming, and this mess with Iraq? Yep…all because Georgia stormed the field to celebrate against the Gators.

It’s a big deal in the mind of Terence Moore, and it will continue to be a big deal. Seriously, Moore…what will it take for you to move to Florida or Wisconsin or something?

By terry

October 15, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

im terrance moore i get paid to stir the pot, you know be the antagonist: im very predictable and my only friend is jim rome.i guess this will go on forever…..

By Scholar

October 15, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this

Right on! Richt’s circus-like gimmicks to win football games will work for just so long before the reality sets in - nothing works like a strong team, playing well. Where’s the beef?

By Eddie

October 15, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

You got the Daauuwwggsss good Terence! THANK YOU!!

By disgruntled

October 15, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Congratulations, Mr. Moore, your latest masquerade of self-serving polemics as sports journalism has reached a new level of inanity. Good Lord, can’t you and your buddy Urban Meyer find anything else to talk about? Moreover, how you can find a direct causal relationship between the on-field celebration at last year’s Florida game and this season’s increase in penalties is simply stupefying. I guess you were sick those days when such concepts as logic and reasoning were taught in school. Here’s an idea for your next ill-conceived attempt at journalism: consider the causal relationship between the daily tripe you pass off as a sports column and how you draw more criticism, insults and abuse than all of your colleagues combined.

By Lowcountry Dawg

October 15, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

Terence:

Georgia has had penalty issues in times previous to that game ; and especially in previous seasons. The only “last laugh” Florida will get is if they beat Ga this year-which, with our depleted offensive and defensive lines, may very well happen. I know injuries are part of the game, but just think what this team would be like with Owens, Sturdivant, and the defensive end(cannot remember his name) plus Vance were all playing. It will be interesting to see how well this team does without those players. I got off track a little, but those injuries are huge. If this team can go through the regular season with only 2 losses, that will be a testament to the coaching and talent at Georgia.

By Ramguy

October 15, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

Relax gang, this is just T Mo’s lastest edition of “I get so many hits my column so the AJC can’t drop me” that is meant to inflame and which we are guilty of adding ot it. He adds 1+1 and gets 3 and thinks he is right. I’m sure in his world that Fla lost to Ole Miss because they were thinking about getting back at UGA. That makes about as sense. T Mo and Jim Rome are brothers at heart and both are laughed at by the public and their colleagues .

By Terence Moore

October 15, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Encroachment,

I wouldn’t call Mark Richt a “wild and crazy guy.” It would be better to call him a “spur of the moment guy” — for that particular moment.

He was trying to find something against Florida to get his team fired up for an opponent that Georgia had trouble beating for just shy of forever.

That’s fine. It’s just that Georgia’s end-zone (ahem) celebration was out of control.

Way out of control.

That’s why it is having long-term consequences.

By GATOR CHOMP

October 15, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

We all know that the “Childish Celebration” will backfire bigtime “Book It Cowards” GATORS or DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

By OldSchoolDawg

October 15, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Interesting take, Mr. Moore. I like how you tied the penalty issue to the 42-30 UGA victory over the mighty Gators.

With all due respect, in the big picture, penalties (and all other stats, for that matter) take a back seat to WINS.

Despite the fact that you penned more than 500 words on the subject, not once did you mention Coach Richt’s rationale for the Florida endzone celebration: EMOTION.

Nor did you think to mention that in this day and age of college football, where scholarship limits have leveled the playing field, teams that aren’t ready to play physically, mentally and emotionally are asking for a beating.

In 05, 06 and early 07, Richt’s teams usually were ready physically and emotionally, but often played without emotion. And the Dawgs were losing games they should’ve won because of it.

CMR, too, could see this. So, for the 07 Florida game, he decided to ‘scheme’ intensity, as much as his staff schemed the Xs and Os on offense, defense and special teams. In my mind’s eye, this was a stroke of brilliance. But for your editorial, it was inconsequential?

You astutely point out that Richt’s scheme has worked quite well (to the amazing tune of 10 wins in the last 11 games). But you neglect to mention that most true football fans will tell you penalties are a natural byproduct of playing with a high level of emotion.

Yes, penalties are way up this year, and eventually they will burn UGA. But couldn’t you have pointed out in your piece that Richt has been reluctant to address the penalty issue because doing so could negatively effect the level of emotion and intensity with which his players play?

I think I speak for much of Dawg Nation when I say, “I can live with a whole mess of penalties if it means our beloved Bulldogs will be playing with intensity and emotion. Because, usually, that means they will emerge victorious.”

Let’s go, guy! Next time, think the topic all the way through.

By billy

October 15, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

you do what you do best terence. fired up all those georgia fans. the same ones who will buy a ” oooohhh, we finished ranked 3rd this year” video and replay it at all the games. i finished third in a bbq chicken contest but i don’t relive it every year.

By roger

October 15, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

UGA will never win a National Championship with Mark Richt as head coach, mark my words. The most overrated coach in the SEC or nationally!! He is a nice guy but he is no head coach!

Sign, UGA Fan

By Larry

October 15, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

I still don’t understand….The Ga-Fla contest has gone on much further than the past 18 years, as you so stated, but I believe, if you check the record, overall, as you so readily stated, the most penalized team has the best won-loss record,since the series started. Also, I believe, three of the penalities nailed against the most penalized team was called by the coach, but, of course,once again as you so stated, a penality is a penality. I sure am glad we all have opinions, which don’t mean a thing when it comes to wins and losses, just ask Fla.following the Ole Miss loss, maybe just maybe, penalities had a lot to do with that games outcome.

By Barkin'Dog

October 15, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

If you’re saying the REFs are PO’ed for the slight on their precious rules in Jax, then you’re probably right. I can buy that. The flags are flying higher because of their ire… but I’m not buying what you’re selling here T. It just don’t fly!

By Drago

October 15, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

Terry, This is without a doubt, the finest sports article ever written. Again, it is a shame you have to toil away in the relative anonymity. Everyone, including South Bend and Chicago, should have the pleasure of reading your finely worded prose. I know it is just a matter of time until you are scooped up by some major outlet and get to write for a much larger segment of the world population—say, New Delhi or somewhere in Sri Lanka.

By Iceman

October 15, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this

Terrence, is your life so pathetically lonely and uneventful, you have to look for any teeny thing to criticize the Dogs about?

Yes? Ok, just wanted to be sure. Yer a moron.

By Florida Dawg

October 15, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this

Terrance..I’ve never had a problem with you until now. First of all, you do not understand the Ga-Fl game…you don’t get it! The Georgia-Florida game is a “different game” that has developed into it’s own many years ago. That’s why it’s at a neutral site Terrance! In time, you will understand. It’s not yo mama’s college football game…Terrance. Mark Richt figured it out and he’s starting to even it up. Not that we are behind mind you. We’re not. Terrance…you really need to go to this game. Get there on Wednesday…the parking lot’s full.

By Alpharetta

October 15, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

Terrence,

as always, good research, greater article. A lot of people just live in dreams and don’t ever want to wake up. You give them a dose of reality, they would bark like stunned bulldawgs. Keep up your good work! Somebody someday may learn a lesson or two from your insightful writing.

By AlabamaJack

October 15, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

My, how the bitten do bark.

By AthensMatt

October 15, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Terrence, I thought we agreed that you wouldn’t ever write about UGA again…

By AltamahaDawg

October 15, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

And totally ignoring that several top ranked team are with a few yards and a couple of penalties per game as UGA right now, huh? USC has more yards per games in penalties than UGA does because of the coctail party, I suppose. And I guess UF, which is ranked , what 103rd in the nation in penalties now, was also taken into that vortex.

And technically its 10.something not 11, which is so much worse than 9.something or 8.

By mybulldawgs

October 15, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

I guess the Dawgs learned everthing they know about “discipline, poise and class” from reading your stupid articles. Terence, Delta is ready when you are …

By Kevin

October 15, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

Terrance, I’ve been trying to think of the nicest way to say this: you are a MORON. Go work on your next story about so called “racism” and leave UGA to people who actually know what’s going on in the program.

By Soulja Boy

October 15, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

It is not surprising that the team with the highest arrest rate in the country is also the most penalized. Either Richt ordered the team to run on the field against Florida, or he didn’t. If he ordered them, he is teaching bad sportsmanship. If he didn’t, then he has no control at all over his players. This behavior will never lead to a national championship and not to a conference championship this year.

By Drew

October 15, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

Terence, can you please get off your Georgia bashing kick? I think the Dawgs have done better than Florida since the celebration so what’s the problem? They lost the Capital One Bowl and we won the Sugar Bowl. But you’re right, it’s hurting us(whatever!). It’s unbelievable that AJC is still letting you right. You’re getting old, just bow out in shame. You certainly will never bow out in fame.

By randy

October 15, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

terence, why don’t you report on badmitten, cause you know nothing about football, well probably know nothing about badmitten either. you should be ashame of stealing money from the ajc, you are not woth a tinkers d——!

By IlliniDawg

October 15, 2008 11:45 PM | Link to this

To all the Gator fans gnashing their teeth and predicting a hatred-spewing, vengeance-seeking, butt-kicking payback win by the little lizards down in JAX:

You…..lost…..to…..Mississippi.

That’s right - read it again - Mississippi. That’s Missi-freakin-ssippi! And after Bama kicks your butt, you won’t have any room at all for gloating. Man, you all can be so damn arrogant!!!

By Archbishop of Canterbury

October 15, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

Terence, Of more interest, is with Tommy’s demise in Clemson and Bobby’s impending exit at FSU, is that the Mark Richt will be the leading proponent in America—outside of maybe BYU and Liberty coaches—-of utilizing religion in recruiting.

Name ONE other coach in America—such as Brown, Stoops, Paterno, Carroll, Tressel, Meyer, Miles, Tuberville, Spurrier, Petrino, Nutt, Johnson,——JUST ONE whose religious beliefs you have a detailed knowledge of. Now I don’t have the legal background to know if a seperation of church and state extends to the locker room of a state university. I do know that Jamie Harper, Clemson’s highly rated freshman running back, commented after the Bowden firing that he was “Upset because Coach Bowden had shown him the way to the Lord”.

I understand that the passion for a collegiate football team can color one’s judgment when it comes to evaluating the appropriateness of recruiting practices, so I would ask you to step back and HONESTLY assess whether a football coach at a state university should utilize his religious beliefs in recruiting players.

I went to one of those schools with a BAD football team,Penn, therefore I have no DOG in this fight, but was just interested in some impartial opinions.

I know Vince Lombardi and Shula were Catholic because