Hawks

By Melvin

January 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Link to this

Bibby’s will have his handsful chasing that midget Nate Robinson around the court all night. He better get some rest. Knicks will play a fast pace of Bball on Wednesday night. Hawks need to get off to a fast start and attack the paint b/c the Knicks are soft as tissue in the paint…. Watch out for Harrington, you know he like to do us in every chance he gets. Why, I don’t know b/c the Hawks gave him his first chance to become the man on a team…

By Melvin

January 27, 2009 11:44 AM | Link to this

Bibby will have his hands full chasing that midget Nate Robinson around the court all night. He better get some rest. Knicks will play a fast pace of Bball on Wednesday night. Hawks need to get off to a fast start and attack the paint b/c the Knicks are soft as tissue in the paint…. Watch out for Harrington, you know he like to do us in every chance he gets. Why, I don’t know b/c the Hawks gave him his first chance to become DA MAN on a team and he failed misery…

By allan in texas

January 27, 2009 11:50 AM | Link to this

Sekou, Do you see the hawks making any moves before the trade deadline? Thanks.

By Khao$

January 27, 2009 11:54 AM | Link to this

While I think the team should be concerned, whenever we go on a losing streak of any sort the language I hear from certain players sounds like it is the end of the world. When we were on the three game winning streak, guys said, “We play together.” I read this morning’s addition of the AJC and Joe is like “we don’t play together.” Huh? The NBA season is a marathon. You’re going to have good streaks and you’re going to have bad streaks. Shoot, Boston just had one. The Suns had one until they played us. Most teams have several. The key is realizing the season is long and correcting the issues. The Hawks are still young and are still learning how to win. It doesn’t pay to make definitive statements like “we don’t play together ” when your record clearly indicates that for the majority of the season you do. I like Marvin’s observation this morning better. You find out what threw you off track and correct it. Also, acknowledge that the season is long. This time of year in the NBA is comparative to July/August in baseball. You don’t have “empty stares” and walk with your shoulders slumped. You go back to the drawing board. That was one of the things I always appreciated about the Braves/Bobby Cox during their streak. They never let a bad series of games deter them (until October! lol). Granted the Hawks aren’t where the Braves were just yet. However, that’s the way you have to look at the season. Just one man’s opinion. I just notice when things go bad for this team, certain individuals on the team make statements that would suggest the sky is falling. Is that a reflection on the team? Coach? I don’t know. I just think winning attitudes teaches you the art of reflection and correction rather than complaining.

By Rock Preston

January 27, 2009 11:56 AM | Link to this

Will some one please tell Jumpshot Joe Johnson that there are other ways to score the basketball than hoisting up jump shots. DRIVE THE FRIGGIN BASKETBALL!!!! He finally started to do it late in the game but by that time, it ws too late. I’m sure I’m not the only one who is starting to see that we are becoming to reliant on outside shots. Drive and kick if you have to. Make teams respect the drive JOE!!!!

By Dan

January 27, 2009 12:12 PM | Link to this

I’m not worried about Bibby, either. He is bound to break out of this slump. Tomorrow night would be a great time.

Look at the Hawks next 6 games. They should win them all. Have to start piling on wins because the west coast trip after the All-Star break is going to be tough.

My biggest problem with this team is that they just do not respond to tough losses. A few weeks ago they dropped a tough one at home to Orlando (the game Bibby missed the layup) and promply got hammered the next game. This Sunday they lose a game they should have won against the Suns and don’t bother to show up for the first quarter the next night. Sad.

I’m happy they still have the 4th seed, but they could easily have 3-4 more wins. Off the top of my head, the Orlando home game, the Suns game on Sunday, the Nets game in NJ (blew a 20 pt halftime lead), and both Celtics games. This team has p#ssed some chances away.

By Khao$

January 27, 2009 12:19 PM | Link to this

While I think the team should be concerned, whenever we go on a losing streak of any sort the language I hear from certain players sounds like it is the end of the world. When we were on the three game winning streak, guys said, “We play together.” I read this morning’s addition of the AJC and Joe is like “we don’t play together.” Huh? The NBA season is a marathon. You’re going to have good streaks and you’re going to have bad streaks. Shoot, Boston just had one. The Suns had one until they played us. Most teams have several. The key is realizing the season is long and correcting the issues. The Hawks are still young and are still learning how to win. It doesn’t pay to make definitive statements like “we don’t play together ” when your record clearly indicates that for the majority of the season you do. I like Marvin’s observation this morning better. You find out what threw you off track and correct it. Also, acknowledge that the season is long. This time of year in the NBA is comparative to July/August in baseball. You don’t have “empty stares” and walk with your shoulders slumped. You go back to the drawing board. That was one of the things I always appreciated about the Braves/Bobby Cox during their streak. They never let a bad series of games deter them (until October! lol). Granted the Hawks aren’t where the Braves were just yet. However, that’s the way you have to look at the season. Just one man’s opinion. I just notice when things go bad for this team, certain individuals on the team make statements that would suggest the sky is falling. Is that a reflection on the team? Coach? I don’t know. I just think winning attitudes teaches you the art of reflection and correction rather than complaining.

By O'brien

January 27, 2009 12:24 PM | Link to this

Lucky for the Hawks, Detroit has been losing more than we are. However, if this continues, we can easily fall to 6th (behind Detroit and Miami). And if we dont have homecourt in the first round, we know what will happen.

One reason why the Hawks are struggling to score is because our offensive identity is let’s see what Bibby and JJ can do. We always go away from what’s working (for example Josh in the post), when someone is on fire, we dont feed the hot hand. And when somebody is off, Woody leaves them in the game too long.

When Bibby is struggling, what about putting Acie in the game, and let the Hawks run. That would get them some easy shots, and hopefully help find an offensive rhtyhm.

That being said, we should beat the Knicks tomorrow night. Go Hawks.

By terrell barron

January 27, 2009 12:26 PM | Link to this

Dan, Did you just say that the Hawks should win their next 6 games. What have you seen in the past 3 games to bring you to that conclusion? Inquiring minds want to know? Did we just add another big or something that I dont know about? Did Woody get fired this morning? Please let ya boy know why they should win their next 6 games? Because I’ve seen nada out of the boys to expect a 6 game winning streak.

By JM

January 27, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this

By no means is it the end of the world for the Hawks or any individual player. Just remember and practice what works, moving the ball, running and driving to the rim. Hopefully, we get Al back soon and avoid any other major injuries the rest of the way. Go Hawks.

By STRETCH

January 27, 2009 12:38 PM | Link to this

In need of a boost? How about in need of a BOOT…of Woody!

By terrell barron

January 27, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this

If we lose to the Knicks, Miami will only be a 1/2 game behind us. They get the Wizards on Wed. We’re falling fast. Sund, please help us.

By terrell barron

January 27, 2009 12:47 PM | Link to this

And Dan, dont forget the Bucks were playing without their best player. That game just shows how up and down we are.

By Dan

January 27, 2009 12:59 PM | Link to this

terrell barron

C’mon….you have been watching this team long enough to know that they are hard to predict. Right when you, me, and everyone else are ready to jump ship, they turn things around.

The next six games are all winnable. Are they going to win all six? I’m not ready to say that. I will, however, say that they should win the next six. They have the Knicks, Nets, Bucks, T-Wolves, Bobcats, and Clips. Granted, some of these games are on the road, but none of those teams are likely to be playing an 83rd game. Well…NJ, maybe? Oh, and on second glance, the Wizards are after the Clips. You could say the Hawks could win their next 7.

One more thing….The Bucks playing without their best player? Who gives a sh#t? How many games over the years have the Hawks played without a key player? A ton! No one felt sorry for them, or spotted them 10 pts. I’m not going to give the win back just because the Bucks were without a starter.

By rainman34

January 27, 2009 1:08 PM | Link to this

west and morris are waste of roster spots. we dont have a pure shooter off the bench. i like a few of the guys in the d league. sund needs to cut the dead weight on this team to make our bench a little deeper.

By Najeh Davenpoop

January 27, 2009 1:23 PM | Link to this

Not worried. Not one bit. This cold spot is just a small sample size of a much larger line. Bibby will be fine. We get back healthy and it alls good, sucka.

By terrell barron

January 27, 2009 1:28 PM | Link to this

Dan, it’s all good man. Calm down. lol!! I’m just tired of hearing everyone say that the Hawks shoulda,woulda, coulda. Thats all. Thats why they play the game. And btw, if I was a betting man, I’d take the Knicks in the upset. Just being truthful. The Hawks look like s** right now. Hope I’m wrong.

By terrell barron

January 27, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this

Dan, you do know that the Nets beat the Hawks both times in a home-and-home series earlier in the year, dont you?

By bigdave

January 27, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this

bottom line is that the Hawks offense has become predictable and stagnant.. 1-2 and at the most 3 players touching the ball on possessions.. we have to make up for a lack of backcourt speed with efficient ball distribution. we dont make the defense work, and we take too many low % contested jump shots…

By rms

January 27, 2009 2:01 PM | Link to this

Red Bull, It gives you Wings!!!!

By PD

January 27, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this

I was in Miami at the AAA hoping the Hawks would crush the Heat. The Hawks stood around way too much and did not take advantage of Wade sitting most of the 1st and 2nd quarters.

JSmoove gets ugly in all sort of ways when in he does not focus on playing.

By Cedric

January 27, 2009 2:32 PM | Link to this

Hawks have to make a move for an active big who can score a little in the post or off of a drive and dish cause that shat Solo pulled last night was inexcusable. How in the hell can you let a little guard pin your shat to the glass on a nice drive and dish. Repeatedly we couldn’t finish at the rim last night. We need someone like Najera or Bass from Mavs who is a little more athletic and strong and can finish with some kind of authority. Najera is more of a active power forward who has a motor that just doesn’t stop. It seems like our bigs are just looking around instead of reacting. I had to stop watching the game last night because it was horrible. On a night where we should have taken advantage of Wade in foul trouble. Woody has to mix it up with the whole roster if we stink it up that bad. Let Hunter and Gardner get some burn if nobody else can fill it up. See ya next time in MSG.

By steve

January 27, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this

why is speedy still on the team?

By ILL-logical

January 27, 2009 2:49 PM | Link to this

The key to the current(and re-ocurring) malaise is for coach Woodson to bench ANY player who is NOT sharing the ball immediately.

The Hawks win when they share; pure and simple, so let’s not act as if the source of the frustrations voiced in the media don’t have a cause and an effect.I,like many others, are frustrated by the complaints of muti-millionaire athletes: “we came out flat… we weren’t ready to play…we aren’t sharing…blah,blah blah”

Dammit, you are paid to performso if you can’t/won’t the it’s time to make some adjustments. There are players who play for the team (Kobe finally got it-so far) and there are players who are playing for their next big payday-team be damned.

So far, the Hawks have no one in either category but there are some signs that the latter case may be emerging.Paging coach Woodson.

By The Truth

January 27, 2009 2:55 PM | Link to this

Ray

I am shocked!! Your writing tone suggests you are disappointed that JJ is not a superstar. (I’m just messing with yeah man). Just to add to your point from the previous blog, this superstar image that some have bestowed on him says something about our beloved ATL fan base. It shows that some are so hungry for a basketball hero that they will call a queen of heart an ace of diamond. It’s great when the queen shows signs of greatness, but it’s embarrassing when we over-play her and she shows us something less.

Your points about Woody, you know, you are preaching to the choir. This Hawks playoff run reminds me of a flip version of the Cinderella story. Listen to the story: The beautiful little girl (The Hawks Team) desired to go to the ball (championship finals) and was asked out by the ugly toad (Woody) with a proposition that if she followed his system she will surely get to the ball. She accepted the invitation and her supporters (ATL Fan base) were so overwhelmed with joy. However, his system was so incompatible to the girl that instead of going to the ball they detoured and went to the fair grounds. They ended-up on a roller coaster ride which seemed cool at first with the highs and lows but eventually the ride went off course and crashed. Some supporters who witness the accident threw-up from motion sickness watching this spectacle. The beautiful little girl was injured (egos hurts) but the ugly toad would not accept any blame for the accident. He claimed to the newspaper (AJC) that the she simple didn’t follow his system. Still some other supporters were overjoyed with high praised of the little girl and the toad. It was such an odd thing to watch these supporters praising and honoring the beaten-down little girl in her moment of trauma and the blameless toad. They shouted, at least she got out of the house!!

Moral of story; Setting low expectation will overcome any odds of failure. Translation: In Hawksville, all that’s required to satisfy the majority is at least a 7th or better playoff standing. Woody will survive to coach another day.

By ant banks

January 27, 2009 3:00 PM | Link to this

Does anyone remember any of the bulls team goin’ into a “funk” for 3 or 4 games? what about the lakers team of the 80’s or 2000’s. how about those celtics of the 80’s? what about the spurs over the past 10 yrs? oh, you have to remember utah goin’ into a funk.

these teams have players and coaches that don’t do “funks”. i am sick of hearin’ this “we don’t make plays” “we missed shots” “we gotta trust each other” duh!!

i have seen guys in ben hill gym, burdette gym with more fight than these so called professionals.

By Najeh Davenpoop

January 27, 2009 3:00 PM | Link to this

Maybe I’m being too optimistic, but I’m actually looking forward to this game against the Knicks. For once, Woody will be forced to play up tempo, which will actually play into the Hawks’ hands. The Knicks may get up and down the floor but they play very inefficient basketball (top 10 in turnovers, bottom 10 in field goal percentage, bottom 10 in free throws attempted). I think the Hawks are a better up tempo team than the Knicks. Maybe just as important, I think the Hawks can get away with playing Josh Smith at center for stretches (since the Knicks’ biggest regular is the 6’9” David Lee) which means more playing time for the talented guards and swingmen, and less for the foul-prone and turnover-prone big guys.

Of course, if they go 13 minutes without hitting a shot again, none of this matters.

By Mental Retard

January 27, 2009 3:35 PM | Link to this

Woodson for Coach Of The Year

By MannyT

January 27, 2009 3:51 PM | Link to this

Against Phoenix, it was an unusual game of missing many easy shots. I might relate it to unintentionally missing a meal. Against Miami that turned into a prolonged famine. All the basketball bellies were swollen. If we don’t show up offensively against the Knicks, the UN may have to step in and send basketball famine relief.

Najeh I am hopeful for the Knicks game, but when you collectively cannot shoot, it is tricky to win against an up tempo team. We have to score to win, even if we defend well. Fast pace means more possessions. If you go scoreless in NY for 13 minutes, the team could be down 40 points.

I hope we can blame last night on a South Beach distraction. No beaches near Madison Square Garden.

BWAF

By Melvin

January 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

The Truth, LMAO…. That was hilarious and true… Good stuff, man…

By **SEKOU SEKOU SEKOU**

January 27, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

I gotta know. Are you friends with Coach Woodson? Are you scared of him? If not…CALL HIM OUT! He’s had terrible playcalling, adjustments, and lineup changes lately. When will Atlanta Media step up and say something? It’s not always just the players. Coaching plays a big part in the NBA. Ask him some tough questions! He needs to know he’s not doing a good job of getting his players ready. When “Iso Joe” isn’t working there are other plays he should have in the tank! When Flip is turning the ball over and taking dumb shots how bout give your 1st round drafted PG a shot. Just because Woody doesn’t like him personally should not stop him from getting PT. We don’t talk to Woody. You do. And when you do it shouldn’t always be…”you’re over .500 coach for the first time in your life coach…we’re all so proud of you”!

Thanks Sekou!

By cp

January 27, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this

With our upcoming schedule we could easily fall from the fourth spot. The Wolves and Bobcats have been playing pretty good ball lately… The Nets own us. We might split the next 6 games but you never know with this team…. Free Law.. And can Woodson come up with more than 1 play in his playbook.

By Coach Woodson

January 27, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

**Hey Fans,

It’s Coach Woodson. Just wanted to try and connect with you guys a bit in this blog and get some help from you. So what’s this word “screen” you guys keep talking about? And who is “pick and roll” fella? I don’t understand these terms. Why do you guys want me to get my players to “move without the ball”. That’s crazy! They should only move when they get the ball. Josh Smith is an awesome shooter isn’t he. I will never tell him to stop shooting. Have you guys seen my awesome playcall I run. It’s called…”Joe…post up and fade away even if guys are open” you guys seem to call it “iso joe”. I love how the Atlanta Media kisses my rear end and never calls me out for being such a moron. I’m over .500 for the first time in my career and let me tell you it’s an amazing feeling. Would all of you quit asking about Acie Law please. He’ll get his 2 minutes a game till we trade him and he flourishes elsewhere. Man, I hate Acie more than Salim. It’s weird that just because I don’t like someone I won’t play them..but that’s how I roll fellas. Anyways, great talking with you guys. Hey I just signed another extension by the way. I’m here for 20 more years!

Later Guys, Michael Woodson**

By Clyde

January 27, 2009 4:33 PM | Link to this

HAWKS IN NEED OF A BOOST

Maybe Woody can fire up the troops so we can make a championship run.

By The Truth

January 27, 2009 4:35 PM | Link to this

Coach Woodson You killing me dawg; I’m laughing so hard :)

By Chris Paul

January 27, 2009 4:39 PM | Link to this

I had a triple-double last night. LOL

By Rick Sund

January 27, 2009 4:51 PM | Link to this

I’m happy with our pg situation. We’ve got 3 solutions: Chris Paul’s backup who we’ve paid 6 mil./yr. to wear street clothes. 2) A lottery pick who our coach never plays and is losing trade value due to acute splinteritis. 3) And a streak shooting pg who we cannot afford to re-sign at the end of the season. So Chris Paul, we still wouldn’t take you even if you were available.

By Wink from Lithonia

January 27, 2009 5:09 PM | Link to this

This team really needs a boost. They should eat & drink energy foods just before tip off. The Hawks are lousy at the start of these games. The starters are putting us in big holes and Woody is not capable of adjusting on the fly.

Since the bench is called upon to bail us out of these holes, why not FLIP the script!

Start Solo at 5, for defense & rebounding, Al Horford at 4, for defense & rebounding, MO Evans at 3, for defense & 4th scoring option, FLIP at 2, scoring and ball handling & Bibby at point, for direction & scoring. Let the remaining starters play from the bench against the other teams 2nd units & use as early subs.

Guys we are playing from behind anyway, but we can max out our starters. Before you say this is crazy…Seattle won a championship with this model. When Lenny Wilkins took over, he made starters out of Dennis Johnson,Gus William, Downtown Freddie Brown, kept Jack Sikma in line up & Lonnie Shelton / Paul Silas …check it out 1979 .Champions

By terrell barron

January 27, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

Cedric, How about Drew Gooden?

By terrell barron

January 27, 2009 5:17 PM | Link to this

I just knew we’d go after Mo Williams last year. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. lol!!!

By E. G.

January 27, 2009 5:54 PM | Link to this

No one from the media will ask Woody challenging questions because they know he would pout like a baby and refuse to let them interview him again, unless it’s demanded by the league or something.

WOODY HATES ADMITTING THAT HE JUST ISN’T A GOOD OFFENSIVE COACH.

By Melvin

January 27, 2009 6:15 PM | Link to this

Oh my. The PTI crew is going to debate on Sports Center whether Chris Paul is the greatest PG since Magic Johnson…. Dang Billy Knight(mare) continues….

By Jay

January 27, 2009 6:31 PM | Link to this

Sekou,

Good article on JJ. I’m thrilled that you are turning up the heat on Woody about JJ’s minutes through the press. All of us Hawks fans have been upset and concerned about JJ being worn out, but obviously we dont have much power to voice our concerns. But you putting the issue out there, its a relief and I thank you.

Also, people, notice this blurb I read on espn today: “His numbers are down after a hot start — he’s fallen out of the top 50 in PER, in fact — because the Hawks play him a zillion minutes and ask him to cover all Mike Bibby’s defensive shortcomings”

It seems that everyone in the country knows that JJ is wearing down. I wonder if Woody realizes it, or is too fearful to rest him and see the results of his bench that he has underdeveloped.

By bigdave

January 27, 2009 6:46 PM | Link to this

wink, moe, for defense…? thats funny…

By E. G.

January 27, 2009 6:54 PM | Link to this

Well Jay

Our bench really doesn’t do that badly when Woody sits JJ. We really struggle when JJ is constantly playing tired.

Bibby, like I said before, will not have good games on defense against quicker guards, and he will struggle on offensive against quicker guards who refuse to let him get open.

We need a true point guard today by today’s NBA standards, a point guard who is quick, can dish, can shoot, drive to the basket, and play defense.

By Rod from College Park

January 27, 2009 7:14 PM | Link to this

I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but Marvin Williams might well be the worst starting small forward in the league. I have never seen a guy with his size consistently play like a 6′1 guard when he goes to the hole. I have never seen a 6′10 guy get his shot blocked 3 times in one game. This guy is the main problem with our team because he can’t give you anything but an occasional open jumper. If Mike Woodson comes out of a timeout and runs another iso play for this guy I might end up breaking my TV. Why does this guy have to give dap to every player on the team after he makes or misses a free throw? I consistently see people bashing Josh, Bibby and Joe sometimes, but the true weak link on this team is Marvin (Duck) Williams. He also was drafted higher than any of the players that I mentioned. Wow!!!!!!! TRADE MARVIN WILLIAMS NOW. You can find a 6’8 kid in Atlanta High School basketball who can play better than him right now.

By Nate ArchiBALL

January 27, 2009 7:14 PM | Link to this

Sekou, Joe Johnson minutes last night = 44:18. How much of the practice did he participate in today? Does he get to sit out any of the drills?

Was that a dunk Joe attempted last night? I think he barely made it to the rim. His legs are shot. PLEASE give him some rest Woody !!!!

Joe leads the league in Minutes Per Game 39.9 and is #2 in Total Minutes Played 1,755 in 44 games —- Chris Bosch leads with 1775 in 46 games.

Oh by the way, Joe was number 2 in Minutes Per Game in the two previous seasons —- both over 40 mins per game (82 and 57 games respectively) ………

By Blast

January 27, 2009 7:20 PM | Link to this

Poor Hawks. Sekou makes it sound like they are pouting around at practice. Nice to know they are feeling the heat of their recent ineffectiveness.

Said it before, saying it again. The Hawks are in no way or fashion an elite team. They are one/two good players away from reaching that status, one which must be a big man. Right now they are a jump shooting team, and when they suck it up, like in the last two games, boy are they ugly. Those were some horrid basketball games we just saw.

Again on Bibby. Early on I said if he plays well 60% of the games, then he is a keeper. He’s been slumping lately, but overall I think he’s done well. How soon we forget his game winning shot vs Houston. When he’s not playing well, we are all so ready to call for his head. Save for Josh and Flip, the entire team is playing terribly. Marvin is the most reliable free throw shooter we have. I’m sick of seeing Bibby and JJ miss free throws. Josh I can understand, but not those two.

Woodson sucks, as has been well documented here. If head office does not want to get a big man, then when Al comes back, they need to start Solo and have Marvin be the first off the bench. The current lineup is not working at all. Have Zaza back up Solo and Al at four. Josh is three.Joe two, then Bibby. Flip and Mo continues as before. Play Acie some and you have a ten man rotation That way, the bench gets deeper, and more guys gets minutes. Yeah, Solo blew the dunk, but I like his energy. That’s how you shake things up! But we all know it aint gonna happen I don’t think Woody has ever changed his lineup since he’s been here except during an injury.

Folks think Hawks can win the next six games? Won’t happen. New Jersey is gonna beat them. and based on how they’ve been playing lately, if they don’t watch it, New York will whack their collective arses tomorrow night.

It really is weird. They start games moving the ball and close out isolating. They blew layups, blew dunks, missed free throws, turned the ball over, made dumb-headed plays and shot 5% from the field. Who u gonna beat playing that way?

Coach Woodson that was some funny s.hit right there!

By Jeremy

January 27, 2009 8:14 PM | Link to this

The Hawks are in need of a new coach. They are winning despite Woodson.

By LGYOUNG

January 27, 2009 8:16 PM | Link to this

The Hawks are in need of front court help - even with Horford back they get dominated in the paint.

They could use a guy like Camby or Kaman - some time of big presence down low to help get easy buckets.

Right now this team is a jump shooting perimeter team with nothing in the Paint to combat the bigger line ups and that is what is wearing on this team.

They need a boost from a Big - one that can bruise and Board - hope the Hawks have the ability to make that kind of move.

As it sits now they will be a first round exit without some help in Pivot.

Larry In Marietta

By richbrave

January 27, 2009 8:45 PM | Link to this

doc:

CRITTER report - - - -zzzzzz. Huh, oh 1-2. Actually sank a long 2. Not much progress, although I see as much defense out of JC already as I ever saw out of ARENAS. Not saying much, but he’s still a rookie really. So that’s a good sign.

Been pounding the WIZARDS blogs about our imminant lottery selection. I like the LIZARDS chances of securing 25% of the lottery balls just as AGENT ZERO wished. D.C. finally slipped into the lead for the #1 slot as OKLAHOMA CITY won #10. Aren’t you happy you follow the HAWKS. Told you the HAWKS and WIZ would switch positions, but man, I had no idea it would be THIS bad.

Both JAMISON and BUTLER laying it on the line in order to secure an ALL-STAR slot. Must be a hellacous bonus in their contracts. Both mouths running constantly, lobbying for it. Nasty business. Much of which long-standing HAWKS fans are all too familiar.

By The Hawksta

January 27, 2009 9:17 PM | Link to this

At least you guys have the will and the heart to write about these games when we suck… I can’t stomach it. I hate to see the same plays, mistakes and problems over and over. It’s as if people(players and coaches) are intent on proving points and accomplishing goals. I wonder what kind of incentives Woody has in his contract? That needs to be discussed Sekou. This is getting serious. There is no excuse for Woody beating his starters down when they are getting their buttz handed to em’! I have never seen a coach do that. Finally we getting feedback on Josh watching film. I remember mentioning that very subject then all of a sudden(I’m just sayin the tape don’t lie) we got some real improvement. Sit Joe’s butt down and do the same with him! “Bout time Bibby” here we go again. You can’t have games like this when you making 14mil per(are you serious)! Rest assured I won’t forget this during negotiations “Bout Time”! No Show no more Dough! Woody, take a page from the NFL and script your first 5 or 6 possesions maybe you can draw up something. Key word is Maybe! I ain’t jumping off the wagon either… But damn if I can’t complain about the man driving the horses. My wagon gon need some new wheels if I don’t rest my horses.

FREE ACIE

By Kaz

January 27, 2009 9:17 PM | Link to this

Mike Woodson is taking years off of Joe Johnson’s career by playing him so many minutes. He is doing a poor job of managing the his star player. Also, our wins are a product of talent and a good point guard and not based off of his game day management. Maybe Mike Woodson is just a really good assistant coach and we don’t see all the good he is doing in practice or off the court. But in games, it is obvious that he is out of his league. Team preparedness for games is low, which is why we always start off slow in 1st quarters and we rarely blow out teams that are much worse than us. He can not expect to go far in the playoffs with burning out his star and not motivating his team to pounce on inferior opponents.

By Carl McKinney

January 27, 2009 9:30 PM | Link to this

Will Josh Smith ever realize that he is not a good dribbler or ballhandler? On several fastbreaks he turns the ball over. Josh, if you want to be a hall of famer realize your limitations and make the adjustments, Please!!!! wake up and watch the films of previous games and see how many times you turn the ball over on a fast break. Other teams know that you are going to make a spin move with a high dribble. No disrespect but Stevie Wonder, The Five Blind Boys of Alabama and Jose Felicano can see that. Give the ball up!!!!!!!!

By cp

January 27, 2009 9:51 PM | Link to this

Its the same crap from Woodson in every article. He says the same garbage and never does what he claims he has to do.. Its always “i have to get Joe some rest”…. “i have to use my bench more”…. “i have to find a way to get law some minutes”… “i have to get Joe better shots”.. Will this cat ever do it and stop talking about it. How many times can he repeat the same crap yet never makes the adjustments he said he has to. Just stop asking this cat any questions because I’m sick of hearing the same tired answers with no results.

By Samuel

January 27, 2009 10:05 PM | Link to this

Yes, we are playing bad right now but we are still in 4th spot. We’ll come out of this slide and you guys will calm down.

I keep hearing all this Acie needs more minutes talk. I watched the game last night and all I saw was him basically bring the ball up, pass the ball off to somebody and get lost. Nothing all world about that. It was the perfect time for him to show something. He got lost.

Yes, Joe does look tired but i’m not worried. He’s a good player. He’ll find a way to fight through it and get his second wind.

All in all, I still would rather be in 4th trying to hold on than in 9th or 10th trying to get in. We’ll see how the season plays out. Woody still in contention for: COY

By ant banks

January 27, 2009 10:19 PM | Link to this

the hawks are havin’ a Clark Howard night on Feb. 7th for the Clippers games. tickets will be $7.50 (WSB 750) $1 hot dogs and drinks before the game starts.

they will have a sellout crowd for this one!! let’ sell this mutha out and root our boys to a win.

GO HAWKS!!

By ray

January 27, 2009 11:27 PM | Link to this

New Hawks Hacks blog up….yes, I know, shameless plug..

Meanwhile, I read this article on NBA.com:

Pay particular attention to the Coach of The Year Award.

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/art_garcia/01/27/midseason.report.20090127/index.html

By ray

January 27, 2009 11:28 PM | Link to this

CP, you got it….

By ray

January 27, 2009 11:35 PM | Link to this

And note who the “Biggest Surprise” is on that article…

By ray

January 27, 2009 11:36 PM | Link to this

One name missing from that article…can you guess who it is?

By doc

January 27, 2009 11:57 PM | Link to this

ray, i know this isnt your answer but how can karl be left off that list. his team has transformed and been decimated through trades and injuries only somehow they continue to be competitive to where they have lead their division for a significant time.

By Josh

January 28, 2009 12:05 AM | Link to this

guys remember me fire mike woodson express?? The guy is so damn cluess its funny.

Mike Woodson funny as hell.

By ray

January 28, 2009 1:25 AM | Link to this

Doc,

I don’t know. I picked George Karl myself….

From last blog:

By ray

January 27, 2009 12:01 PM | Link to this

Lacsho,

Creflo Dollar should call you up and take notes. You’ve been preaching nothing but THE TRUTH. You had me rollin’ with that church league and high school coach stuff…I couldn’t drink anything for like 10 minutes, dude. You gotta warn me when you’re going to do that, lol!

Coach ac,

So what has Acie been doing wrong in practice? You have been to all of the practices, haven’t you?

The Truth,

I don’t even want to hear this COY with Woodson. Stan Van Gundy has his guys playing for top billing IN THE LEAGUE, Spolestra’s crew is fighting off Detroit for 5th in the East after winning just 15 games last season, and George Karl has HIS crew playing stellar ball WITHOUT Carmelo Anthony, despite losing their best defensive player in years (Marcus Camby) over the summer, AND having traded Iverson for Billups during the freakin’ season. I’m just sayin’….

Now here’s the deal: If we were in the 4th/5th seed late in the season, I’d be quick to say that all this “Woodson cricism” was totally uncalled for. As it is, we’re still well above .500 with a record of 26-18, and Woodson does deserve some credit for that. But this team is inconsistent, and you can only go so far with blaming the players (while simultaneously acting like the coach is perfect). We are losing games now that we should be winning. We all know the season only gets harder, not easier. The better teams dig deeper, and the playoff-race and playoff positioning gets more intense. We need to fix problems NOW while we can, and while they don’t cost us as much as they will later. Going scoreless for so long in a game will guarantee losses later in the season. And unless motivation and mental toughness increase, we will suffer longer, more costly losing streaks.

Having said that, we are badly missing Horford. But we’ve been in games without him, games we coulda, shoulda won.

Woodson has done a better job in times past, put simple, organic, personal, natural player growth gets credit as well, along with the addition of Mike Bibby, Evans, and Murray. This team is on pace to do something really good and take a virtual leap. If it stumbles, there is a reason for it. And injuries, as much as we’ve experienced, have not shown to be the only or main reason why. As I said, we’ve been in position to win games without key guys.

By ray

January 28, 2009 1:27 AM | Link to this

By ray

January 27, 2009 11:41 AM | Link to this

O’Brien,

You make a great point: 10 turnovers from our veteran, starting backcourt. Says a lot…

Matt=niremetal,

I agree that Joe Johnson plays some hard minutes. But I still see him as an all-star, rather than a true superstar. I don’t think that’s a knock on JJ, just an opinion based on some things I see. I do agree that JJ would probably do better under a better coach. But superstars shine no matter where they go, and no matter who they play for or with.

Chris Paul does not have the world’s greatest surrounding cast, and half of them are injured right now. But he destroys teams by himself on the regular. Same for Kobe. Same for Lebron. How about Allen Iverson? Different teams, different coaches, same result. After 12 years in the league (and way too many coaching changes, team changes) dude is FINALLY slowing down to uh..ONLY about 18ppg. Under a rookie coach, with a struggling team, he’s finally come down to the all-star/very damn good player level. To me (and this is just my opinion), a superstar is a guy who can play at all-star level, no matter where he is or who he’s playing for, or with.

Wade is a true superstar. He’s leading the league in scoring while averaging 7.2 assists per game. He’s playing for a rookie coach. And he’s surrounded by rookies and sophomores, and role players. Shawn Marion is injured half the time. Wade averages just 1.7 minutes per game less than Joe Johnson. The Miami Heat had the worst record in the league last year with 15 total wins. This year they are 24-19, fifth seed in the East. Why? Dwayne Wade. True Superstar. Either that, or Erik Spolestra deserves to be considered COY, far more than a guy like Woodson….

Again, I’m not bashing Joe. But superstardom is a hard road to get to. If Joe were a true superstar, would he have been the 4th option on offense for the Suns? No. Would they have let him go the way they did? Don’t think so. Joe is awesome, but he’s not quite there yet, IMHO. I agree that he is called upon to do a lot, and too much in some ways. I agree with just about everything you said about Woodson. And there’s no need for Joe to be called upon to do what he’s asked to do. But for that, we point towards the coach, and management. Joe’s clearly an all-star and a very special player. But I don’t think we’ve seen him yet turn into the guy who can take over any game at any time, regardless of what the defense tries to do. But that’s just me…I’m just a fan with an opinion…

By gypsyjoe

January 28, 2009 2:23 AM | Link to this

I have a question for hawks fans. I see Steve Francis got cut by Memphis. Can this guy still score?? Also we need a rebounder why don’t we give that kid from the D-league Hendrix a look he’s a load. We would have to cut Gardner and West but I think these 2 guys could help up in 2 weak areas.

By doc

January 28, 2009 6:29 AM | Link to this

ray, amen to that. all of it.

i commented on marvin and his concussion, yesterday. here is an interesting article on concussions, aptly called traumatic brain injury:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/sports/football/28brain.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

dont think for a second it only happens in the nfl or football in general. also not sure why we can fund so much for any football as these injuries start early. being in high school doesnt make one immune only more susceptable to those that dont know what to ask for or the questions to ask. cognitive function should be a part of the physical for any football being played to begin to catch these things early and increase awareness,

By O'brien

January 28, 2009 7:11 AM | Link to this

“I’ve got find a way to get him some better shots and to get him some more looks at the free-throw line,” Woodson said (about JJ).”

Am I the only one who is sick and tired of hearing Woody say “I’ve got to do …….”, but yet he never does it. Talk is cheap Woody! Let your coaching do the talking. Crickets, crickets…

By terrell barron

January 28, 2009 7:24 AM | Link to this

The Bobcats beat the Lakers. Wtf??? Look out Hawks. We better win tonight. Detroit is in Minn. and Miami has the Wizards at home.

By Samuel

January 28, 2009 8:09 AM | Link to this

Fire Phil Jackson

By hawkeye

January 28, 2009 9:01 AM | Link to this

JJ and BB….DRAINED! that’s why they’re slumping. our backcourt plays 38-42 mins/ game what will you expect? we can’t expect and rely on them to win games and save us every night. aside from josh somebody needs to step up. we need some boost…badly.

By ray

January 28, 2009 9:04 AM | Link to this

Detroit better not look past Minnesota. They’ve been playing well lately and the Pistons don’t have anybody that can stop Jefferson. Then again….most teams don’t have anybody that can deal with Jefferson. Minnesota has gone 10-2 through the month of January. I would NOT want to play them right now.

Whether by desperation (to keep his job) or actual talent, McHale appears to be coaching these guys into respectability. A healthy Randy Foye has proven to the be the #2 in a 1-2 punch, and five other guys are averaging or nearly averaging double figures in points: Ryan Gomes, Rashad McCants, Craig Smith, Kevin Love, and Mike Miller. The rookie Kevin Love is averaging 8.4 rpg in 23mpg. Holy crap…

Jefferson should be an all-star, but voting is so screwy. How do you average 22 and 10 in the post, OUT WEST, and not make the all-star team? BS!

I’ll go out on a limb and predict a loss for Detroit, and a win for Miami.

By Astro Joe

January 28, 2009 9:19 AM | Link to this

All this drama from the past few days and we haven’t lost our playoff position. Some of you may want to consider drinking a few less Red Bulls.

And I’m still drinking the Bibby Kool-Aid. How long ago was it that he dropped 15 dimes in a game? 2 months ago? 4 weeks ago? No? Oh yeah, 3 games ago… within the past week.

I think Sekou has done his usual fine job of droppong hints left and right… but it seems like the biggest issue is one of chemistry and teamwork (again). Backcourt a little too shot happy which ticks off frontcourt players (especially late in games). Flip plays well and then sits on bench at end of games because coach doesn’t believe in going with the hot hand. Solo plays extremely well in Horford’s absence but can’t get consistent PT. Zaza usually excels in first half and sees very few 4th quarter minutes.

While we certainly have not suffered the injuries of other teams, has our starting 5 played more than 15 games together this season? Between Smith’s early injury and now Horford, it seems like we’ve been missing a mainstay at least 60% of the time. Let’s try to get everyone healthy and see if the alarmist attitude is still appropriate.

By ray

January 28, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this

Doc,

I hear ya. This is a serious issue, and unfortunately not paid much attention to. I know when I played it was “shake it off, walk it off.” But then, I never experienced a concussion. And I was usually the one delivering the worst of the hard hits.

By 404atlhoops

January 28, 2009 9:45 AM | Link to this

Astro Joe

I agree with your take on Bibby and Johnson taking too many shots. You can’t have your backcourt taking over a third of team’s field goals every game. It reminds of those late 90’s Bucks teams with Ray Allen and Sam Cassel and they went nowhere in the playoffs. The Hawks don’t run any plays for their frontcourt players. Especially Marvin Williams, who I think should get more touches.

Although the Hawks have maintained their current playoff position, there is still a reason for concern. This team is not getting any better and shows no sign of consistency. Philly is starting to put it together and Detroit is not going anywhere. Any move Miami makes and they will make a trade may put the Heat over the top for that four seed.

By rms

January 28, 2009 9:47 AM | Link to this

Like I said: Red Bull, it gives you Wings!! Hope they are packing it by the case going up to New York cause the Knicks are going to be running up and down the court like nobody’s business!!!

By Melvin

January 28, 2009 10:15 AM | Link to this

Not only do the Hawks need a boost. They need an identity. This team has no personality or toughness. We need some swagger. They need to sign STEVE FRANCHISE….

By woody for coy

January 28, 2009 10:28 AM | Link to this

Comon guys.. How easy you fall off the bangwagon. last month it was kudos to the Hawks players and now it is FIRE WOODY ( Strange but how come no one ever gives Woody credit when the team is winning?) Team wins= Kudos to players. Team Loses : Fire Woody !! FACT: Please check out the box score of every game..The +/_ for Acie Law is very bad which shows that when he comes into the game, the hawks score less than they concede. WE PLAY TO WIN THE GAME ..So please enough of this play Acie bulls*&t. There is a reason the best coaches dont play young players…Are you guys saying we should play Acie at the expense of losing. ALL YOU SALIM FANS BLAMING WOODY FOR HIS LACK OF PLAYING TIME, WHERE IS HE NOW ?

By Astro Joe

January 28, 2009 10:37 AM | Link to this

404, injuries are obviously a part of the game and the reason for a bench. But I am hopeful that with the return of Horford (and assuming the rest of the guys stay reasonably healthy) that we will get better.

Here’s my latest concern… that Bibby will have Joe out all night during the All-Star festivities in Phoenix (Bibby’s stomping grounds). Selfishly, I’d love for Joe to maximize the off days by getting as much rest as possible. Playing about 18 minutes in the All-Star game. Maybe having a 10 points/4 assists stat line and taking a nap on the bench when he isn’t playing. Rest, rest and more rest.

By Daniel

January 28, 2009 10:55 AM | Link to this

I still maintain that the key here is how they bounce back tonight. True elite teams don’t usually have games like Mondays, but the Hawks are not truly an elite team yet. However, are they contenders or just an above-average team? Contenders don’t let losses pile up. Sekou, I see what you mean about Joe being tired. Honestly, I think that Joe is not vocal enough; particularly with the refs. I admire and respect his overall demeanor, but he gets hammered night after night without getting the calls. If he were going to the line 10-15 times a game (like other stars) his numbers would be up without as much energy being exerted. Joe and the Hawks are still not getting the respect/calls that they deserve.

By Sautee

January 28, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

doc

You mean you DON’T just rub a little dirt on it? ;-)

By HOME GROWN aka E.J.

January 28, 2009 11:23 AM | Link to this

How have we faired in games where we tried to out run teams? The last one I can think of was the Golden State game, which we lost. I think with more rest we can out run any team. Bibby at the point might slow us down a little but I think that he can do the job. Running with AC will be easier. Let Flip get some run with AC and give JJ a rest. What do ya’ll think?

Granted Flip might not be the best open court decision maker, but when he is on, he can fill it up. Turnovers are a problem for him, but that’s why you let the pg work the ball up and then distribute to the open/hot hand.

By ladiesman3000

January 28, 2009 1:20 PM | Link to this

new blog up!

By MLOVE

January 28, 2009 11:54 PM | Link to this

the hawks need some mental toughness, a low post present make a trade,joe need to be a leader

By Fire Woodson Express

January 29, 2009 1:09 AM | Link to this

WOODY FOR COY,

You have to be an idiot,The Hawks are not winning they do not beat the teams that matter, nor will they ever until they get a coach that knows what he’s doing on the sideline. Woodson can’t coach at all. He looks like a deer caught head lights. 26-19 right now, will be 26-20 come Friday night. How long is Rick Sund going to put up with bs??

His coaching is staff is not much better, you never see them coaching. Only thing i see them doing is shaking there head. What the Hell is Bob Blender roll?? that’s the guy that sits next to Woodson with the bold head?? He is also a idiot. Larry Drew is about the only one that has sense on the sideline.

By PaulWinchester

January 30, 2009 12:35 PM | Link to this

The Hawks never beat the good teams nor do they ever win games that would solidify their position. When the Hawks record was 26-16 after losing two tough games straight to Orlando (which the Hawks played great no less), you figured the schedule was getting easier and the Hawks could possibly reel off ten straight (go to 36-16) and position themselves for an easy 50-win season right? wrong! The Hawks may not have a better record from last year after the gun goes off on this campaign. At the current rate the Hawks are losing, the Hawks may finish 20 games under .500 at 31-51. Keep losing Hawks, you are doing the city proud!

By KingCobra

January 30, 2009 12:41 PM | Link to this

Where the hell is Salim Stoudemire? He is probably one of the BEST players on the Hawks roster and he cant seem to get any playing time. The Hawks record would be 10 games better if Salim were getting 10 minutes per game. In fact, the Hawks would currently have the BEST record in the league ahead of Orlando, Boston, Los Angeles and Cleveland if Salim were playing regularly for the Hawks. Mike Woodson doesnt even realize the talent which is accessible to him. Woody keeps rewarding the same players which keep losing for him. Either the coach has to go or a reshuffling of the lineups have to take place.

By falcon21

January 30, 2009 8:04 PM | Link to this

Look at the empty seats.Woodson better go or Atlanta will be losing a team PDQ!!!