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DEL.ICIO.USTD’s take, and more …
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
No one has had a better vantage point for the Hawks’ unofficial summer school sessions than retired NBA veteran and one-time Hawks sharpshooter Tony Delk.
As one of the mainstays at the team’s practice facility this summer (Delk insists he’s not mounting a comeback but merely trying to “stay in shape”), Delk saw things the past few months that lead him to believe the Hawks will continue the rise that started in their playoff series against Boston in May.
Granted, Delk is the firs to admit that what a player looks like in an empty gym in the summer isn’t always a tell tale sign of how they’ll fair once the real games start. But having watched the Hawks closely the past few seasons, and especially last season, he’s convinced that the seeds for future success have been planted sufficiently.
“You can see who has come back improved physically and with a new twist to their game that you didn’t see the year before,” Delk said. “And the one guy that stands out to me off the top of my head is Al [Horford]. He’s making that mid-range shot. He’s come back a lot better. And he’s going to play hard so you know what he’s going to do. And really, if they stay healthy, both Acie [Law IV] and Speedy [Claxton] have really showed me something. I think they can help this team in ways that neither one of them did last year for reasons that were largely out of their control. When you look at how little Acie played last year and the fact that Speedy was out all year, it’s like having two new players this season without having to go out and sign them. Acie is physical and has that size to work with, all he needs is time on the floor. And Speedy’s got his bounce, his quickness and his outside shot has been as good as I can remember. That’s invaluable when you’re in the place the Hawks are right now.”
Just where they are right now depends on your perspective. Many of the pundits have already pegged the Hawks for a fall back to the pack in the Eastern Conference standings.
Delk, however, isn’t so sure that will be the case.
“The way they finished they have to know they’re going to be a marked team,” Delk said. “With that in mind, they have to come to play every single night. They won’t be able to sneak up on anybody. The key to me is finding the right chemistry in training camp. But I think they have a good shot at doing well and finishing in the mix of that top eight in the East. I don’t see how anyone could be convinced that they’re going to fall back to the pack.”
Delk said seeing so many of the Hawks on the floor during the past few months, on their own time, is what convinced him that they realize what’s at stake and what it will take to realize whatever goals they have or will set for themselves this season.
“I don’t think NBA players of my generation and beyond have ever gotten enough credit for all the work they do this time of year,” he said. “This is the time when you get in the gym and really get in shape and trying to polish your game. You can only do so many drills. At some point you have to put it into motion out there on the floor. And I think these guys, based on the way they finished and the way they had this city rocking, they all want to start off right. You don’t want to be behind the curve, you want to get ahead and know that you are a team to be reckoned with. Because the ultimate truth is that the seventh or eighth spot is not guaranteed to anybody. But if you get to third or fourth and stay right there you won’t be on pins and needles in those last five or six games like last year. If you get those wins early on and get off to a good start, that’s the key, and it keeps the fans involved.”
GOLD MEDAL DAYDREAMS: Hawks captain Joe Johnson can’t help but daydream about what it might have been like to have that gold medal draped around his neck in Beijing.
Technically, Johnson is still a member of the U.S. men’s senior national team. But he and the other players on the master roster that didn’t make the travel squad for the Beijing games will have to admire the flashy jewelry of their teammates that did make the trip.
With so few opportunities to snag Olympic gold, Johnson knows that the opportunity of a lifetime might not present itself again.
“It’s not always just about you,” he said. “Sometimes it’s about something a lot bigger than that. I’m just happy that we regained our position as the best team in the world. Do I wish I’d have been there on the floor with those guys? Absolutely. But I wasn’t and unfortunately there is nothing that I can do about it now. That said, I’ve got nothing but love for all those guys that were there. They did a fantastic job and represented us to the fullest. And who knows where we’ll be in 2012. I’ll be a little bit older … but you never know. Maybe I’ll get another shot.”
COACH BIBBY?: A large chunk of Mike Bibby’s summer was spent coaching basketball as opposed to playing. As the shot-called on his son’s AAU team, Bibby has a new perspective on the game, sort of.
“It was a good time,” he said of his summer spent running the show in a different way. “I was coaching my son, which is about as good as it gets.”
Now that he’s back to playing to the whistle instead of blowing one, Bibby’s eager to get his timing back. And perhaps more importantly, he’s eager to see where he fits going into the final year of his contract.
“It goes by fast, It does go by fast. But I still got some left,” Bibby said and smiled. “Last year I came in and just tried to fit in. You don’t want to come in and try and do too much. It was the same way when I got to Sacramento [from Vancouver]. You want to come in and fit in and just see how things play out.”
Things played out particularly well, with the Hawks earning the franchise’s first postseason berth in nearly a decade with Bibby piloting the ship.
But he struggled in the series against Boston, something that he shook off immediately after that Game 7 loss but has not forgotten.
“I think we definitely could have beaten them,” Bibby said. “We just didn’t play well on the road at all, and I mean at all. But things happen for a reason. Maybe that was the start for us to excel this season.”
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By Clyde
September 22, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Roll Tide
Alabama vs. USC for the National Championship
ROLL TIDE!!!!!
By TruATLien
September 22, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Any word on where Salim will land? I do wish him the best.
By mavid
September 22, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
More good stuff, Sekou
A question Ive been wondering about for awhile: In a previous blog you mentioned that many players on the Redeem Team thought Horford was the most impressive player of the young squad that challenged them… can you divulge more about that??? Any indication on how those practice games went? Or are you saving that for an article on Horf´s offseason? Dish out the dirt!
I think Horford can make the All-star game as soon as this season. 16 and 12 is not out of his sights, knowing how hard he works.
By MannyT
September 22, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Sounds like Woody has a wealth of options. I hope he can proactively mix and match them to gain advantages.
TruATLien Check last blog. Entry from Najeh Davenpoop.
Salim to Spurs.
By Ariose
September 22, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
Nice Piece Sekou. Bibby said he wants to retire at 35, I think he can play a little longer than that though.
I was wondering how Joe felt about getting snubbed……especially after his playoff performances. Glad to see that he’s just happy for the guys who won and is ready for another season of great basketball.
Also, I hope TD is right lol.
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By MannyT
September 22, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Completely off topic, but amusing
Beasley comes out of the closet
…and it costs him $50k!
By Ariose
September 22, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Mavid, I don’t think they let you play in Rookie-Soph game and the All-Star game in the same year.
Also his sessions with TEAM USA went like this: He and the other select members got their butts handed to them a bunch of times on the first day (They won like three games out of who knows how many…..I think it was 12). Then over the next couple of days the settled in and made the competition really tough for team USA…….winning more games ofd course. It was really physical stuff, as evidenced by LeBron spraining his ankle.
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By lljustice
September 22, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Sekou have you seen Marvin around and how is his game coming along. What about the new guys we signed are they in the gym also? How do the new Bigs look?
By Ariose
September 22, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
MannyT, Thank you my friend. I was going crazy over here……..Yayfullness.
I figured it would either be the Spurs or the Warriors. But the warrios had just signed some other guard so it had to be the Spurs.
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By Ariose
September 22, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Sekou, How come every blog I go to about Salim being signed, the responses are the same. That “it’s about damn time”, “Woodson is a jerk”, and “they hope Salim drops 30 on the Hawks”????? I’m Just sayin’….I mean I’m a Hawks fan, but I don’t see any flaws in their reasoning hehehe……
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By mavid
September 22, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Ariose
Can you link me to an article that gives an account of those games (including how the select team members performed).
Also, if a rookie or sophmore is good enough to play in the All Star game… they play in that game, not the rookie/sophmore one.
I think the favorites for the big men in the East are obviously KG, Dwight, Bosh and Brand. But who knows, the way Horf works, I wouldnt put it past him (especially if he can consistently hit that mid-range shot)
By get real
September 22, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
This team has got to show up on a regular basis this year. No more “we just didnt have it tonight”. Woody has got to make them play hard every night. Wish we had some Erk Russell types on this coaching staff.
Georgia 31 Alabama 26 - You heard it here first.
Is Michigan still a D-1 school? Just wondering…
By Ariose
September 22, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Do the Spurs come tp Phillips this year?? I’ll be there with my Salim SPURS jersey on Hahahah!!!!!
Go Hawks????
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By LL Cool Scott
September 22, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Al Horford is the future of this team. We will only go as far as he takes us. I’m glad to see he’s developing a mid-range jumper, but I’d be really glad to see if he ever develops a go-to move in the post. Once he does, he’ll be a 20-10 guy every night. And if he becomes a 20-10 guy, that opens things up for our perimeter players. He won’t make the all-star team this year, but probably will by 2009-2010 season.
By Ariose
September 22, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Mavid, Here’s the article about it.
But, The games were really more like practice scrimmages, just with the score being kept lol. They weren’t posted.
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By Ariose
September 22, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
December 25th in SA
March 25th ATL
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By Ryder
September 22, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
I heard Horford on the Jim Rome show on Friday. Let’s hope that the karma will give him an even better season and more success for the Hawks.
*By MannyT
September 22, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Sounds like Woody has a wealth of options. I hope he can proactively mix and match them to gain advantages.*
My fear is that this is Woodson we’re talking about, so he won’t be patient enough to let those other resources operate.
Sekou thanks for the update on Bibby’s offseason coaching stint. I believe that in order for the Hawks to reach the next level he will have to become the player-coach on the floor.
The rest of the pundits can sleep on the Hawks if they want to, but you absolutely cannot underestimate the chemistry this unit has developed since MB came aboard. This is why I’m in favor of the Hawks finding some way to keep him after next season.
By Tommy
September 22, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
What are the chances that we extend Bibby?
By Swatguy
September 22, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
TD sounds like a future coach. We have turned into a guard heavy team. I ain’t hatin’, but we have to have Zaza to stand up to buttress the frontline. Good gosh Bibby, Flip and a healthy Speedy with a hungry maturing Acie. Woody has to be chomping at the bit. Sekou, how is Sol looking?
By mavid
September 22, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
Tommy, it really depends on how we play with him this season, coupled with the price tag of his next contract and the emergence (or lack there of) of Acie.
Ryder, I agree… we need Bibby and Joe to be our “offensive coordinators”. I think they both know more about an effective offense than Woody.
By ray
September 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
Tony Delk has some interesting things to say. Some of the things that stuck out the most included the following:
1)Horford’s developing midrange shot. Knew it was coming. Anybody watching the games knew it, too.
2)Acie’s playing time and abilities. Delk says Acie is physical and just needs time on the floor. He also mentions how Acie didn’t have any control over how much he got to play. How long have we been screeching about that?
3)Speedy Claxton. It remains to be seen just what his involvement will be. And I mean this could go in a few different directions, including some we’ve already re-visited a few times. Delk says his shot is as good as he can remember it being. I don’t remember Claxton having much of an outside shot. But what do I know….Delk’s the one who’s been there.
4)Sometimes it’s not as much about what is said as it is about what’s NOT said. Delk feels like the team can be pretty good. That’s encouraging. I’m sure his perspective is at least as qualified as any here…..right??
Also, (and I could be reading too much into this) I notice who he doesn’t say has seemed to come back differently. I realize he’s saying “off the top of my head”, but it is singular that Horford is the first to come to mind, and that Acie and Speedy follow. No mention of Marvin. Nor any others. Huh. Interesting.
I’m looking forward to more info from Sekou as things wear on…
By Lacsho
September 22, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Ray
Tell Ando I got $50.00 on the hawks making it to the playoffs.
I wouldn’t read into what Delk didn’t say. Sekou previously reported Marvin and Smoove where looking rather good. I think Delk gives a different insight. You have to know Horford will always standout, that’s the type of player he is. This guy will put up Tim Duncan numbers soon; it’s just a matter of time. The core is intact, and there shouldn’t be chemistry issues. Therefore, we should jump out the gate pouncing on other teams.
I think Bibby will have to fight Acie off for the starting position. Keep in mind Acie is the future pg for this team, and if Woody has any sense he will give Acie a fare shot at the starting position. Hands down Acie plays better defense then Bibby, and he’s a lot quicker (hella quicker). He gets to the hole, but he had problems finishing. (a lot of that has to do with limited playing time) With time and experience Acie will prove to be the better pg.
Manny
I hear you with the T-shirts, but humiliation comes when Ando has to admit to the blog that he was wrong.
Ando
(Holla atcha boy) I know you usually arrive on the blog during the late evenings, so I expect to hear from you tonight.
I know tempers flair on this blog, and that’s due to the fact, people are passionate about their beliefs. However, we are all Hawks fans (I think), so hopefully once the season starts, the personal attacks will end. There has to be a more articulate way to prove ones points without going into a personal assassination of one’s race, creed, profession, and character. Sometimes the bigger person has to let it go, and move forward in a new direction.
Peace!!!!!!!!
By ILL-Logical
September 22, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Good work SS : this is the type of reportage we know you are capable of and expect from you.
By I.MUS WRITE
September 22, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Thatz just great…… 4 point guards!!!
Our head coach could’nt get it right when we only had TLue/AJ,how the hell is he gonna find minutes for all of these guyz. Bibby and Flip will probably eat the majority of the minutes with acie playing about 8 minutes per contest……
Ariose…..dont start ur witch hunt lol…
Met Al horford and his family today….He’s a cool guy kind of reserved/ chill though -couldnt get anything out of him (basketball info)………
I dont know what TD saw …but Al looks smaller than he did last year IMO, As long as his game is improved who really cares. I could see the 15 lbs of muscle on Josh but Al looks the same.
Enuff already lets get camp started …one more week
Who is doing the heigth/weight for the NBA…….Al looks like he is 6’8 at best, i was standing next to the guy and he wasnt alot bigger than myself and im 6’3 .75 inches in bare feet……….
Thats crazy a guy of his size is in there banging and going at guys bigger than him on a nightly basis. thats probably why he’s my favorite hawk next to the home grown yung’n Smoove……..
By I.MUS WRITE
September 22, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Clyde -put your money where your mouth is …..national championship..Pulleezz
Your boy’z wont make it past UGA this weekend. look for AJ green to outplay Julio Jones in a major way, 8 catches for 160 as a freshman-thats impressive.
Ariose- Im with you homie…..I hope salim comes back and puts up 30, in a loss that is -cant root against the home team. Yeah put up 30 and ice grill Woody after every tre….AlA Reggie miller and Spike Lee. I really want to see how he performs under a proven coach like POP.
By Astro Joe
September 22, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Glad to see Salim find a home (maybe). He’s playing behind guys like Michael Finley and Roger Mason… and both of those guys are on the bench. I always thought that Salim could be a Nick Van Exel type player (the Nick at Night version that played for the Spurs). But frankly, I see him more like a Jeremy Richardson type 13th man on the Spurs team. But I’m not hatin’, he is still in the NBA and I’m still flippin’ burgers. “Onions with that?”
By ant banks
September 22, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
i am not buyin’ any of this hype about “the hawks have been practing together before training camp…” or “they work out at practice facilities…” they did this same stuff last year and ended up wit’ 37wins.
i am sure that all of the teams are doing something inline with getting ready for the season. WOOP-D-D000!!
By Najeh Davenpoop
September 22, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Tony Delk’s observations all seem really nice right now, but how much will they really matter considering that Woody is still the coach? Will these supposed improvements even get a chance to show themselves? There was a blog a couple of weeks ago about which player would be the key to this season — I’m more convinced with each day that Woody’s performance is gonna make or break this season more than any individual player.
Ando, I am ready to take you up on your offer, but I am poor. Is a $5 bet good enough for you?
By cp
September 22, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
At the end of the day it is up to Woodson to make this work. If he feels like he is losing too many games he might shorten the bench and ride 7 to 8 guys trying to make the playoffs again. He has to find a way to get guys like Law and our young bigs some minutes. He also has to come up with more than 2 offensive plays this season. If Woodson finally gets it this year I have no doubt we make the playoffs. If he goes woodpecker we might be on the outside looking in.
By dj
September 22, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
the hawks will rize in 2008-2009
hawks 47-50 wins
BEST HAWKS BLOG (besides this one)
By ant banks
September 22, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this
i think that woody will revert back to his same ol’ self…”woody is who we think he is, but we won’t let him off the hook!”
no way he will go deep into his bench. he will start the year off with that 7man rotation. his job is on the line. would you let solo and randmo stand between you and employment? if you had 4 yrs on a contract maybe, but woody don’t have that much time.
i still can’t forget the issues that aj had wit’em, the issues salim had wit’em and the issues that smoove had wit’em. this dude sucks the life out of his players. this is why they don’t show up nightly
By chuckw/deadjournalist
September 22, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
After weeks (months?) away from the blog all I have to bring is that Hanno Mottola retired. Makes me wonder what ever happened to Cal Bowdler.
I digress.
I don’t mind the excess of guards on the roster. Given the health concerns of several of those involved, over the course of the season, the teams will need that depth.
I know everyone is holding their breath that Solo and Hunter can add some depth, but I’d feel a lot better with one more experienced big on the roster.
By ant banks
September 22, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
hb ando, ‘poop, ken s, manny t or whoever:
how much money did the hawks “save” by not re-signing jchill and bringin’ in flip, maurice evans, since these are the 2 pieces that were brought in for jchills.
By ant banks
September 22, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this
i saw kobe on jim rome and he was sayin’ that olympic gold is better than a championship. BS!! there is no way that he is happy wit’ that. i don’t wanna hear this patriotic crap. you mean to tell me that barkley and ewing are happier with there gold medal than they would be with a championship? yeah, right!!
jj, just get a championship, i guarantee that it will wash away all emotions that you have about not winning a gold medal
By ant banks
September 22, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
chuck we got waaay too many guards, but they are valuable pieces. watch some other guard gets hurt and they will come callin’ on us to bail them out wit’ one of our guards!! maybe we can get a 2nd rounder for speedy.
By blue hawk
September 22, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
Sekou,
can we get some news on Randolph Morris?
By Ariose
September 22, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
Sekou!!!!, Preciate the update on Joe Johnson…..And here I was thinking you weren’t paying us bloggers any attention ;-)
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By steve
September 22, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this
I cant wait for the season to start.
There are 5 50+-win teams in the east that are legit contenders (Magic, Pistons, Cavs, Celtics, Sixers) and about 10 that have realistic playoff goals with very good teams (Hawks, Heat, Raptors, Wizards and Bulls)
There are gonna be some great GREAT battles in the East and in the West with the Rockets, Lakers, Hornets, Clippers, Blazers, Mavs, Spurs, Suns, Jazz and Nuggets.
10 real-deals on both sides. GREAT/SUPER-EXCITING and competitive year this coming season!!!!!!
HORFORD IS THE KEY TO THIS YEAR AND THE FUTURE!
GET HIM THE BALL IN THE LOWPOST EARLY AND OFTEN. WATCH HIM BE THE 20/10 MONSTER ALLSTAR POWER FORWARD THAT LEADS THIS TEAM FOR THE NEXT 10+ YEARS……. (dont forget that he’ll make all-defense every year too)
GET HIM TO THE POWER FORWARD SPOT! BREAK-OUT SOLO AND FILL UP OUR CENTER SPOT!
MARVIN TO 6th MAN! SMOOVE TO THE SF SPOT! GO HAWKS GO!!!!
Regardless though I LOVE IT. We got size off the bench, good athleticism, scorers, shooters, a superstar, young stars on the rise, a dominant bigman as soon as maybe this year in Horford (20/10 allstar PF for most the necxt decade).
I lovin the team right now. And the league in general. Its gonna be a dogfight of a year in the NBA this year.
By blue hawk
September 22, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this
HB Ando
hey I see $50 from Lacsho and $5 from Najeh Davenpoop hehe. Like Najeh, I’m ‘poor’ too so I guess I’ll put up $5 too. Money talks eh.
Let’s get it on!
Hawks will definitely do better than the 10th slot, like what you’re saying. The Hawks are a playoff team.
I hate negative predictions. Shows no courage to go after a goal.
By steve
September 22, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this
Lol
I actually WOULD trade Smoove for Josh Howard. Id probably even throw in Marvin and take back a center from them too (Dampier if his contract expires this summer as i think it does).
Without question.
By steve
September 22, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
And Ken, I still say we should go with Bibby, JJ, Evans, Smoove, and Horford. And a bench of Acie, Flip, Marvin, Othello, and Zaza. With Speedy, Gardner, Solo, Morris, and Mario filling out the roster. Evans gives us anothe r vet alongside JJ and Bibby, who plays better Defense and also has better range than Marvin. Marvin can replace Chills as the 6th man.
That actually makes alot of sense Terrell. Evans shooting spaces the floor and more importantly his defense can give Joe a rest on the 2nd-best wing from the opponent while Evans takes on the primary scorer of the opponent.
Most importantly: Marvin. He gets a chance to thrive and gets the added responsibility of chillz’s role thrown his way at 6th man. He’ll be the focal point of hte 2nd unit, the MAN. He’ll have a chance to break o ut and play VERY aggressively on offense……… and his versatility makes him able to be a great 6th man in that he could sub in for JJ, Evans or Smoove and the lineup is good to go. He could evan sub in for Al if we want to go real small-ball and even sub in for Bibby if JJ is gonna run point for spot-minutes.
No matter what he’s getting 30 minutes a night and it will give him a green-light. Make our bench fearsome from weakness to strenght, and make our starting lineup much stronger and more well-rounded….
Great plan. Im good either way though, whether Marvin starts or not. Both instances have plus’s and minuses.
By ray
September 22, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this
Ant Banks, for anti-patriotic stuff, go see Josh Howard. He ain’t with this “USA” stuff. I say ship him and half of Hollywood right the hell out of here….you wanna be somewhere else (like in the middle of a war zone, not making oodles of American dollars playing a game), then get the F#ck going….People don’t know how good they have it. This is the only country that not only tolerates you saying all kinds of bull$hit, but will go out of its way to fight to make sure you retain that right. Elsewhere, they cut off a body part or put you in a place where the beatings don’t stop. Or they put you in the dirt if you make enough noise.
Steve, you’re crazy. The Mavs don’t even know for sure they want to keep that guy. Have we not learned by now that taking other people’s problem children is a bad policy? Leave the knotheads to New York….and the Oakland Raiders….Howard’s too busy trying to steal the “knucklehead of the decade, but still hasn’t won anybody a championship (therefore not yet worth the trouble)” award from Ron Artest. No thanks.
By Ariose
September 22, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this
In case you guy’s haven’t seen it yet, here’s Sekou’s recent interview with Joe Johnson.
I.MUS, Ray was right when he said you have the coolest job lol. BTW no witch hunt for me….yet heh……As far as salim is concerned sure the hawks should win……but if it’s a buzzer beater by salim then i’m not mad lol……wait he plays for the spurs right…..I think the odds may be in his favor hehehehe.
Half of those NBA playes are shorter than listed lol. Horford had a busy summer. Really the only serious weight lifting he did was with the Athletic trainers at Flordia when he was at School during this summer. Also you have to remember that it’s really tough to lift and play ball like that. You’ll be so sore you can barely lift a ball. that’s probably why Sekou said Smoove looked more streamlined than last time it was b/c he had to chill with the heavy lifting in order to work on his skills. Serious Lifting throws your shot off.
This was about Horford though right???….anyway his skills will be better hopefully since he wasn’t lifting like that.
Astro Joe, Daaaawwg, 13th??? I think you’re in for a suprise lol.
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By Ariose
September 23, 2008 12:40 AM | Link to this
Josh Howard??? Heh, glad you took THAT one Ray.
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By ant banks
September 23, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this
ray you need to lay off the caffeine bruh!! address what i said, not some c**-a-mamie garbage. i said no way olympic gold is more valued than a championship.
as far as you pro-patriotic stance, yippee!!! i was in the military, 3rd army, ft. mcpherson, desert storm/desert shield vet. i know what is going on. we were pawns in the gov’t oil game.
as far as people don’t know how good they got it here, REALLY, well go tell that to the family of Emmitt Till, a 14yr old who was murdered by 2 grown white men, in mississippi, go tell that to the family of Medgar Evers, NAACP field officer who was killed by Byron Delabeckwith and was not brought to justice until 2000, some 40 yrs later.
or what about those 4 african american girls who were bombed in alabama by white kkk members, or what about the Tuskegee Experiment, where black males were given syphillis and were tracked for 40 yrs by the CDC. I can go own, this is just the tip of the iceberg. I know my history!!!
Jigga, do you want to talk about how good we got it here in America? Don’t get me started!! hopefully, you aren’t some brainwashed house jigga
By Sautee
September 23, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
new blog up, thankfully