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By femhawkfan

June 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Wow! I am one of the first to comment. This is a major twist! I don’t know what to make of this situation. However, I am slightly excited about the news because hopefully this will push ASG and Sund to make a decision on Woodson real soon.

By terrell barron

June 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

I’ll buy Woody’s ticket to Detroit if they want him. Does Dumars mess with the sticky green, every now and then? WOW!

By terrell barron

June 4, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

The BASG probably wont let Woody meet with Dumars, since they are so in love with him. This is their best opportunity to get rid of this clown, and not hurt his feelings in the process.

By bill

June 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

We need a clean break, fresh start, whatever you want to call it…Woody’s style of coaching fits the mature Pistons like a glove, but his half-court slow downs keep the young Hawks in 2nd gear!

But we’re dealing with the ASG here, so who the heck knows what’s happening???

By terrell barron

June 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

The Hawks just signed Woody to a new 3 yr deal. wtf! Just Kidding. lol!!

By khao$

June 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Woody was a horrible fit for the Hawks. But, given Detroit’s personel, he may be a better fit. Think about it; Woody likes veterans. Detroit is a veteran team. While he never made sense for us, it makes sense for Detroit.

By tyger

June 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Makes Perfect Sense

Woody’s coaching philosophy fits the Pistons moreso than the Hawks.

He plays a tight 8 man rotation of veteran players. His starters log 40mpg nightly and his emphasis is defense. Nothings wrong with that.

Except, the Hawks didnt have 8 veterans that could log 40mpg nightly and still perform at a high level.

Moreover, playing the guys 40mpg deprived our youngsters the mpg they needed to develop, which in the long term cost us bigtime.

The Hawks need a coach that develops its players - Mo Cheeks, Nate McMillan, Sam Mitchell - while maintaining a decent winning %. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

I never understood why a Salim, Jeremy, Solomon, etc. couldnt get a couple minutes each qtr.

It would probably be best for both teams, Woody would fit right in and compete for a championship and the Hawks could get a teacher for their next phase.

By Clyde Sampson

June 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Let Him Go

By Clyde

June 4, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Let Him Go

By I.MUS WRITE

June 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Come on….. Woodcock was great as an assistant coach riding Larry’s coat tails.

The last few years have proved to me that he is terrible as the head man …… or maybe he is just terrible with yung players -either way im with Terrel- How much is a one way ticket to the D town, never mind the cab fair i live down town and i will be more that willing to drive him to Hartsfield.

Erratic substitution patterns, holding grudge’s, no playing time for our yungnz, weak half court sets,and the list goes on and on……….We definitely need a fresh start -too bad Nate Mcmillian is’nt available.

Now that i think about it Detroit is the perfect fit for him -a veteran laden team -with most of the roster being 30 plus -guys know their roles and limitations …. all he would have to do is sit back and watch with that disgusting look on his face and u guessed it arms folded……….AAARRRRRRG !!!!!!!

By floze

June 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Please plase please go to Detroit Woody. If there is any justice for the Wallace trade - you will go straight to Detroit and implement the go-Joe offense for Rip Hamilton.

By SQUAWKER

June 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Go to Charlotte, Woody. I would love to beat up on you and Larry Brown for the next 5 years or so!

By MannyT

June 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Ironic, isn’t it.

Woody can walk at the end of the month. In part, this is just what we deserve. You don’t want your coach going into that last year if you want to keep him. Even with the season over and BK gone, is it really fair to have Sund make an assessment on Woody’s tenure after having no working relationship with him?

Give Detroit permission to speak with Woody. If they want him, let him go. Even if the money is similar which team would you really want to coach?

I’m no Woody fan, but management would be sphincter flow to stand in his way after dangling him by a thread for so long.

Step up or step off!

WAFFI Woody-arms folded, finger extended…guess which one!

By Sautee

June 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Sekou

Thanks once again.

I’ll assume that another story is coming from this interview. Otherwise I’m sure you’ll let us know here.

And here’s hoping your gut is prescient.

peace

By Astro Joe

June 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

I have a $100 gift card in my desk that I will gladly send to Woody to help pay for any airport transportation costs. I think he’d be GREAT in Detroit and he’d be a fool not to aggressively pursue the opportunity. Likewise, Sund would be a fool not to work his evaluation to provide Woody the opportunity to exit stage left. We ALL thought that Woody was a better fit for a veteran team, which is one of the reasons he was such a poor fit for the youngest roster in the league.

By Ryder

June 4, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

It might be in Woodson’s best interest to leave for Detroit if given the chance. This team is still constructed poorly and it would take a Nelson-like offense to get the most out of them. Woodson’s style obviously doesn’t work for Atlanta, and I think in Detroit he would prosper working with more veteran leadership. It’s obvious that the Pistons were not going to respect any outsider and will only roll with a coach from the Larry Brown days.

As for Atlanta, this situation is best for them as Sund can now get his own guy to run the show. Of course at lot of that is contingent upon who they re-sign after this year.

By Samuel

June 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

Hopefully,Sund won’t do like the rest of the GM’s in Hawks history and get rid of a guy right as he hits his prime. He goes on to win a ring and we bring in a scrub like Flip and go backwards.

Come on Rick, stop the madness.

By cheese

June 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

give woodson to the pistons for draft picks and cash!!!

By Melvin

June 4, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

I hope Woodson jump on the 1st plane, train or bus out of the ATL for Detroit or Charlotte or anywhere his heart desire. Don’t worry about the mess you left behind, we’ll clean up after you (Woody). You mean to tell me Dumars is going/would consider to hire Woodson to be the HC of his team with a .300(est) W-L record in 4 years and after firing Flip who had a .600%(est)W-L record during the same time frame. How is he going to justify that to the Detroit Fans??? Oh well, better them (Detroit Fans)than us… Sekou I think you’re wrong. I think Sund couldn’t be luckier if he doesn’t have to fire Woody.

If Dumars hire Woody, what does this say about his decision making as a GM. Remember one of BK knocks was he hire Woody.

Let someone else have WAF. This could very well be good CRAP for the ATL after 4 years of PAIN…. Sorry Manny but I couldn’t resist….

By ray

June 4, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Tell ya what. We’ll trade Woodson, Jeremy Richardson, and some cash for Stuckey. Deal?

By realsquawk

June 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

I have had money saved up for a day like this… this really makes it easy to move Woodson and this is something I always thought would satisfy both parties

Woodson who doesn’t have his ideal personnel here leaves on a very high note for a veteran team

By Ben

June 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Woodson, who was an assistant coach for the Detroit Pistons before coming to Atlanta, admitted he mostly rode the bench while Larry Brown did most of the work.

“Larry was great,” said Woodson. “He could tell players what a travel is. He could even explain a bounce pass to them. That is part of the reason Detroit was so good.”

Woodson said Brown allowed him to do vital things for him, like hold his clip board and hand Gatorade to players on the bench. The Atlanta coach said he rarely paid attention to the game saying he always found it “a little boring.”

By Ben

June 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Anyone can tell Woodson secretly still is in love with Detroit and is using us to inflate his resume.

Mike Knapp Mike Knapp Mike knapp

By travis

June 4, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

now woody has “home court advantage”. if the dasg offer him a contract, he can demand more money and more years ‘cause he has them by the balls now. dasg, you should have fished or cut bait 4 weeks ago.

By Harpie

June 4, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

WOODSON MUST GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

By doc

June 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

in a cut and paste from the previous blog:

as manny noted, interesting interview with sund today on 680. got bits and pieces of it. the guy is very candid and i have heard more words from him this am than i did the whole tenure of bk’s existence. it doesnt mean much until the tires hit the road but it does give someone some insight as to what to expect.

for example, interesting comments on the connection of zaza to the whole until the playoffs. wasnt able to hear all of it verbatim so i may be taking it a bit out of context or maybe wanting to read some context into it. it does support what many have noted here on the ole blog that for some reason he wasnt connected or accepted by his teammates. that is not a quote only that it does suggest the guy sund is reaching deeper into team chemistry and something i like to see him doing. now he needs to know why and hold the folks responsible for not getting more out of the big guy. i think that is on the coaches or the leaders of the team, now which one will he pick? yup, cant wait to find out i do want to see and hear the word accountability as it has been missing.

though i give him cred, i will be sorry to find if nothing is done before the season starts to begin to brand the team as his own. the last time a guy named west came behind bk he did very little except wait about 20 games before the incumbent coach was fired and hubie brought in. 50 win seasons started miraculously.

i think bk was wanting to correct a wrong and i wonder if sund will be too late to act or make the correct decision for the upcoming season. as manny and others have suggested the assistants are an important piece of the puzzle. stay tuned, and now we can return the the harmony of the bells as entertainment.

to pick up on todays blog, one can say there has been a dark force at work. one can only look to the dichotomy of egos in LA between buss and sterling as to how and why a franchise is run. the BASG has left both bk and woody out to dry on too many ocasions and left it wihout their own culpability and accountability. it will be interesting if they take it into the light as this bell weather off season is now started. i think bk and woody both end up on their feet in the end.

sund says he is the one in charge but at the same time saying the owners ultimately the ones to pay the freight so they have final say. many mistakes have been made, it is time for sund to begin to piece which were accountable to whom and go from there.

again sekou thanks for the update, know it is valid and another reason why the regulars hold you in such high esteem as well as the national guys.

my vote, let woody go and move on, everyone will breathe better. no matter what he accomplishes on his next stop and it could be success, it wont happen here until the joshes turn grey.

and yes the reaction to woody by the pistons was down right shocking before the last game. man love or children at play?

By RealSquawk

June 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

For anyone who saw the ESPN report of Joe Dumars talking about the coaching change…

Did you all notice how serious he was about making a change and how unacceptable it was for the team to not have made the proper improvements. It seemed like he was fighting for his job and he was allowed to fight for his job. Mr. Knight wasn’t allowed to do in the mist of his mistakes and not that we would have heard him speak on it either.

and does anyone know what ESPN stands for?

By Lamont

June 4, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Let him go and get Saunders. Our players won’t get much better ( Smith, Williams) if we keep him. They don’t even seem to be motivated to learn from Woodson.

By Lamont

June 4, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Let him go and get Saunders. Our players won’t get much better ( Smith, Williams) if we keep him. They don’t even seem to be motivated to learn from Woodson.

By ATLRattler

June 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Kick rocks Woodrow!!!

There are a lot of qualified Head Coaches out there now. The Detroit opening makes this divorce easy. Hopefully, Gearon will let him talk!

By lawrence

June 4, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

why is there no talk about avery johnson coming to the hawks?

By KevinM

June 4, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

One of the most convincing thoughts here is that EVERYONE that has posted wants Woody gone! It is so obvious to fans that he is over his head. Let him try his coaching in Detroit. Hell, if I had the Detroit 5, I could probably get 13 wins out of them my first year there! (Woody’s first year with the Hawks!)

Please ASG, clean house and get a Johnson or Saunders in here to teach these guys how to play together.

By Glenn

June 4, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Avery Johnson is not a good fit for the Hawks. Neither is Woody . I hope the Pistons do take him . We should be so lucky . We need a Don Nelson up & down the court type .

By MattyMatt

June 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Woodrow!

By MsDee

June 4, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

I say let Larry Drew take over for a year or so if Woodson is gone. Larry seems to look well while coaching the summer league and also he is familiar with the players. Avery Johnson voice is annoying and the players will not be paying attention to it.

By cp

June 4, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

I seriously hope that Detroit offers Mike Woodson the job. I would take Woodson to any bar or strip club and tell him im paying for whatever he wants as long as he signs the contract. I would even help him move. As someone said earlier, what could you tell the fans that would make them happy about taking a coach who barely has won 100 games over a guy who got to the eastern confrence finals 3 times in a row. The fans of Detroit would not be happy but boy would I be. Man please let this be true. I feel like popping some champagne like the old undefeated Dolphins team.

By ILL-Logical

June 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Sounds like a win - win scenario to me: Woody gets a job that better siuts his skills and experience and the Hawks(read Sund) are off the hook regarding having to make a decision.

The better news could be that Mr.Sund can promote Larry Drew, with minimal fiscal impact, and have almost no learning curve because of their prior ties and Drew’s knowledge of the team.

By nahjay davnpooh

June 4, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

fire woody and hire whitey

By Jambazy

June 4, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

We need to keep our core and chemistry longer, its bad enough that we had a change in GM. Therefore the ASG needs to resign Woody and give contracts to our young Joshes. Thats the only way we stay competitive. Changing the GM and Coach is just asking for a new beggining philosophy-wise. Sometimes continuity goes a long way to becoming good.

By Najeh Davenpoop

June 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

RealSquawk, what really stood out to me about the ESPN report is what Dumars said about wanting to get the moves done quickly and not draw out the process. That’s really what the Hawks need to be doing too. They know what Woody can and cannot provide, and by now they should know who can and cannot improve this team beyond what it is. Well-run organizations where everyone is on the same page don’t need months to make important decisions.

By Mike is back

June 4, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this

I’m with the majority, I say we all purchase let Woody go to Detroit t-shirts from Clyde to finance his trip out of town.

His coaching philosophy fits them to a tee. I actually thought Dumars would replace Flip after loosing to the Cavs last year. The difference is Detroit expects to win championship, while BASG is content with competing for the eight spot in the playoff.

You know when you have a Jack-Assss like Terence Moore endorsing you, your dead man walking. Sekou hope your gut feeling is right.

By Sautee

June 4, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

Looks like our resident troll has changed his name.

By SB

June 4, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

I would let Woody go. No disrespect to any one else, but once you get A new GM you are going in a diffrent direction. Very few GM’s come to a team and don’t make a coaching change. My first vote would be AJ, despite his ” annoying voice”, the Hawks are young enough to remember him playing and wininng A championship. And as another guy said “they don’T CALL HIM THE GENERAL FOR NOTHING”. Players will listen he has also showed he can win (in the regular season) with a soft team. If you can win with that soft team in the west, you can win with our guys in the east. I wouldn’t mind Mark Jackson of Flip Saunders either.

By Ramon

June 4, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Woody for the Piston’s first round draft pick or Lindsey Hunter.

By A Thinking Fan

June 4, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Let’s start a relocation fund for Woody! Make me want to blog again…

By EJH

June 4, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this

Most people feel Woody should be run out of town, but you people have no idea what it takes to be a coach and win at the NBA level. Woody if given time has it. This team is not going to stay young forever, because the guys are going to grow up and need a veteran type coach like Woody. This guy is sought after because NBA decision makers know that it is hard to find a guy that can blend veterans with youth and woody did it without a point guard up until this point and then he got Mike Bibby and went 1 game under .500, the ASG do not need to make the mistake of letting this guy go, because they will regret it for a long time. If any deal needs to be done let’s buy out Speedy Claxton contract or trade him and Pachulla to Detroit for Rasheed Wallace.

By Orlando

June 4, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

The answer to this is simple: Give Woodson the right foot of fellowship, and then back up a Brinks truck to Chuck Daly’s house.

By JB

June 4, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Now I’m eager to hear from all the i-dots who downed Woodson all season—wanting Brown or some name like him. Funny how even Brown seems to be holding a slot open for the guy. But I guess Brown and Dumars and all the rest know very little about b-ball compared with the vast majority of naysayers who were eager to blame the coach for the team’s struggles this year. I’ll say it again: the only one you could blame for this mismatched set of pieces is already gone. And Woodson took that mismatched set and pushed the Celts (who may end up as champs) to 7 games. Go figure. Sorry if I sound a little bitter, but the only difference between me and the guys I’m writing about is that I know that I know not.

By ignition

June 4, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Great for us…!!!!! I’ll help pack his bags and drives his A$# out of here… PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE…

By ignition

June 4, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Great for us…!!!!! I’ll help pack his bags and drives his A$# out of here… PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE…

By nahjay davnpooh

June 4, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

hey najeh, don’t act like you’re not racist. you’re just not man enough to come out and say it. but with every position you take in different topics, i can see right through you. now move your black a* to jacksonville and be a jaguars fan with all those other qbs who cant play for squat.

By Ramon

June 4, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

JB, sorry but the Hawks won despite having a mismatched COACH. Even in that series, many times you could tell Woody made NO offensive adjustment to how the Celtics were guarding JJ. How many times have you seen the Hawks come out of a timeout and still not get anything positive out of that offensive possession? I think Woody would do good, even possibly here. But to say that he doesn’t deserve the responsibility for 200 losses, would not be a smart assessment.

I do believe Woody will be a better coach in the future, than he has been the last few seasons. I also believe if he was retained for a season, it wouldn’t be the end of the franchise. The problem is, IF he was offered a deal with Detroit, the Hawks wouldn’t be able to only offer him a one year deal.

By Samuel

June 4, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

EJH,

I gotta agree with you. Most of these guys here are professional bloggers as you can tell. Up at 2 and 3am going back and forth with each other. I would bet all the bass in my freezer that 99% have never walked anybody’s sidelines.

Look at these bodies Woody has had to work with:

00 Tony Delk G 6-2 189 8 1/28/74 Kentucky 1 Josh Childress G 6-8 210 R 6/20/83 Stanford 3 Al Harrington F 6-9 250 6 2/17/80 St. Patrick’s (NJ) HS 5 Josh Smith F 6-9 225 R 12/5/85 Oak Hill Academy 7 Tom Gugliotta F 6-10 250 12 12/19/69 North Carolina St. 10 Tyronn Lue G 6-0 178 5 5/3/77 Nebraska 13 Boris Diaw F 6-8 215 1 4/16/82 France 14 Predrag Drobnjak C 6-11 270 3 10/27/75 Serbia 15 Donta Smith G 6-7 215 R 11/27/83 Southeastern Illinois 36 Royal Ivey G 6-3 200 R 12/20/81 Texas 40 Jason Collier C 7-0 260 4 9/8/77 Georgia Tech 42 I-Kevin Willis C 7-0 245 20 9/6/62 Michigan St. 44 I-Michael Stewart C 6-10 230 7 4/25/75 California 54 Obinna Ekezie F 6-9 270 4 8/22/75 Maryland

2005-06

No Name Pos Ht Wt DOB Exp College Team 11 Estaban Batista F 6-10 270 09/02/1983 R ATL 1 Josh Childress SG 6-8 210 06/20/1983 2 Stanford ATL 7 Tony Delk G 6-2 189 01/28/1974 10 Kentucky ATL 54 John Edwards C 7-0 275 07/31/1981 2 Kent State ATL 3 Al Harrington SF 6-9 250 02/17/1980 8 ATL 36 Royal Ivey PG 6-3 200 12/20/1981 2 Texas ATL 2 Joe Johnson G 6-7 230 06/29/1981 4 Arkansas ATL 10 Tyronn Lue G 6-0 178 05/03/1977 8 Nebraska ATL 27 Zaza Pachulia F 6-11 265 02/10/1984 3 ATL 15 Donta Smith F 6-7 215 11/27/1983 2 ATL 5 Josh Smith F 6-9 225 12/05/1985 2 ATL 20 Salim Stoudamire G 6-1 179 10/11/1982 R Arizona ATL 24 Marvin Williams SF 6-9 230 06/19/1986 R North Carolina ATL No Name Pos Ht Wt DOB Exp College Team

2006-07 Roster

11 Esteban Batista F-C 6-10 268 09/02/1983 Uruguay 1 1 Josh Childress G-F 6-8 210 06/20/1983 Stanford 2 12 Speedy Claxton G 5-11 170 05/08/1978 Hofstra 5 36 Royal Ivey G 6-4 215 12/20/1981 Texas 2 8 Anthony Johnson G 6-3 195 10/02/1974 Charleston (SC) 9 2 Joe Johnson G-F 6-7 235 06/29/1981 Arkansas 5 44 Solomon Jones F 6-10 230 07/16/1984 South Florida R 10 Tyronn Lue G 6-0 175 05/03/1977 Nebraska 8 3 Slava Medvedenko F 6-10 253 04/04/1979 Ukraine 6 27 Zaza Pachulia C 6-11 280 02/10/1984 Georgia (Europe) 3 5 Josh Smith F 6-9 235 12/05/1985 Oak Hill Academy (Mouth of Wilson, VA) 2 20 Salim Stoudamire G 6-1 175 10/11/1982 Arizona 1 24 Marvin Williams F 6-9 230 06/19/1986 North Carolina 1 33 Shelden Williams F 6-9 250 10/21/1983 Duke R 42 Lorenzen Wright C 6-11 255 11/04/1975 Memphis 10

2007-08 Roster NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS 10 Mike Bibby G 6-1 190 05/13/1978 Arizona 9 1 Josh Childress G-F 6-8 210 06/20/1983 Stanford 3 12 Speedy Claxton G 6-1 170 05/08/1978 Hofstra 6 15 Al Horford C-F 6-10 245 06/03/1986 Florida R 2 Joe Johnson G 6-7 235 06/29/1981 Arkansas 6 44 Solomon Jones F 6-10 230 07/16/1984 South Florida 1 4 Acie Law G 6-3 195 01/25/1985 Texas A&M R 27 Zaza Pachulia C 6-11 280 02/10/1984 Georgia (Europe) 4 32 Jeremy Richardson G-F 6-7 195 03/01/1984 Delta State 1 5 Josh Smith F 6-9 235 12/05/1985 Oak Hill Academy (Mouth of Wilson, VA) 3 20 Salim Stoudamire G 6-1 175 10/11/1982 Arizona 2 6 Mario West G 6-5 210 06/19/1984 Georgia Tech R 24 Marvin Williams

Now tell me a coach anywhere who could have done any better.

The man had Royal Ivey and Tyrone Tom Thumb Lue to run the show for the last 3 years for Gods sake!

He finally gets a point guard and some players(who he groomed) who finally get it and you get rid of him. Doc, that reeks of bad KARMA to me.

By Dr. Dave

June 4, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

Woody would do everyone a favor if he went to Detroit. It would be funny if Joe Dumars would fire Flip and his 60% winning percentage and bring on Woody and his 30%. I actually thought that Dumars firing a successful coach would get ASG’s attention, and clear away any more thoughts about retaining a loser. I say hire Kenny Smith, Avery or Mark Jackson.

By nahjay davnpooh

June 4, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

samuel, shut up and go to hell. we all know who played for the hawks so for you to waste your time posting this crap makes for a weak point. the truth is, woody did his part to contribute to the hawks sucking and he sure didn’t do anything in the playoffs to help this team.

joe dumars is smoking crack if he thinks woody is better than flip. well, he’s probably smoking crack anyway because…..

anyway, flip in atlanta would take us to the finals. and a few more white people on the roster.

By stevo

June 4, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

uh, ejh, when you say something like, and i am paraphrasing here, ‘lets just trade two guys who don’t play for us for one of the best team’s best players’ you kind of lose the right to call out other people’s lack of knowledge on the nba.

you is dim.

By Samuel

June 4, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this

nahjay,

You’re a trip. Keep it comming Brother. Too funny!!!

By Mike

June 4, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Spies in the Pistons camp?

Are you kidding me?

Sounds more like a Mickey Spillane novel than professional sports reporting.

By Joe

June 4, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

Sekou, you are obviously a schill for Mike Woodson…this has got to be one of the funniest things I have read in years.

Look, Isiaih Thomas and Billy Knight are gone. There is only one borderline retarded GM left in the NBA, and the Hawks just hired him. If anyone on earth is stupid enough to sign Mike Woodson to another contract, it is Sund.

I appreciated what you are doing to help Woodson’s career along, but nobody with half a brain would ever believe the inane rumor which you just proposed.

You are obviously either stupid, terribly informed or a pimp for Mike Woodson.

This is absolutely the most ludicrous thing I have ever seen in the pages of this pathetic newspaper.

By Jambazy

June 4, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

Samuel,

I agree. Nobody can do much with a squad like that, and to compound the fact is that sm of our starting players were injured in one or more of those seasons.

By Beck

June 4, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

First off…Mike: Shut up. You sound like a total a$$.

On topic: Sounds like a win-win situation to me. I have no hard feelings for Woody, he did what he could with what he could. It isn’t like he didn’t have organisational issues to deal with and young players to teach. But that being said going to Detroit and giving us a clean start could be great for all.

By Beck

June 4, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

Sorry Mike I meant to tell Joe to shut up. My bad.

By Don!

June 4, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

Please God, let Woody leave.

Detroit.

Charlotte.

Heck, Madrid for all I care.

But not Atlanta. For everyone that says look at the rosters — LOOK AT THE ROSTERS! Woody has been coaching them like they’re players they’re not.

We have a young, athletic team that should be punishing other units up and down the floor. Instead, we’ve been stuck with a game plan designed for us to play down to the opponent’s level.

Our team should be playing like Phoenix, or the old Arkansas ‘40 Minutes of Hell’ — instead, all we get with Woody is 48 minutes of Sybil.

I would be happy for Woody if he somehow got the Pistons job. But I’d be happier for the Hawks who could bring in a coach to fit the players we have instead of a stubborn system coach trying to fit square pegs into round holes.

Later,

Don!

By terrell barron

June 4, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

Yeah Davenpoop, I knew something was up. It’s all good man.

By Ramon

June 4, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

Sekou, I’m very curious about something. Does Marc Stein give you all of his paycheck from ESPN, or just half of it? Many times Stein seems to ‘break’ the story that you’ve had up for a few hours. I guess you told Stein you wanted a raise. Because out of all the stories he could be chasing at the moment, he decided to log in to this blog as ‘Joe’ and say hello. Please, just let Stein know this IS a recession and the price of everything is going up (including your hard investigated articles).

By RealSquawk

June 4, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

I must agree that is pretty important as well Najeh Davenpoop

wasn’t today supposed to be Sund’s official introduction to the media? I haven’t really heard anything about or seen in videos on it

and the two or three people who actually find reason to defend Woodson. A. Yes the Pistons might want him back he has never been a horrible coach when it comes to telling established veterans what to do, but when comes to young players trying to figure out this league he has not done such a great job… and there always seems to be a position open for people who have a job Billy Knight was mentioned to be on the list to go to New York as a high level assistant right after he was fired

B. Yes we could look at our recent playoff success, but how much credit can we actually give to Woodson… a matter of fact as much praise as Woodson seems to be getting about his job against the Celtic’s it appears he is also receiving just as much criticism for player time management and his ability to adjust.

C. Yeah we can look at stats of how we were after we got Bibby, (for all those people who want to trade bibby let us not forget that he was injured his second game playing for the hawks and that injury stayed with him throughout the playoffs and he tried to play through it) but does anyone remember the feel of us trying to get into the playoffs!!!! loosing to New Jersey when we needed to win… loosing to the Pacers.. a matter of fact near the end of season in the playoff hunt the Hawks could not give us a win to solidify their chances it had to be handed to them another team had to loose so for all those people high off the playoffs who think 39 (estimated improvement under Woodson next season) wins are going to get us into the playoffs next season then you are crazy 40 wins probably won’t due it … if you don’t believe me then look at chicago… Miami(maybe)… New Jersey… could the Charlotte Bobcats show us what real improvement from a coaching change is hmmm….. who knows???

By ray

June 5, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this

Great. So we have the whitey racist and the blackie racist. What summer of fun….

Do you know what I find indescribably funny? Just a few things:

1) You people have no idea what it takes to be an NBA coach. Really. Enlighten us please. In detail, if you will. Seeing as how YOU know and WE do not.

2)Woody, if given time, has it. Uhh…does that mean he has it now or he will have it “in time.” Either way, does this team have time for him to do whatever it is so that he can “have it”?

3)I would bet all the bass in my freezer that 99% (of these professional bloggers-just a wee touch of sarcasm) have never walked anybody’s sidelines. And you may be right. Or wrong. Either way, who’s NBA sidelines have you walked? Oh wait, you must be telling us that coaching in grade school is what puts you on such a superior level that nobody here could possibly have an opinion even remotely as educated as yours when it comes to what makes an NBA coach a good NBA coach. Okay, then. I’ve heard worse…By the way, what does make a person a professional blogger? Heh. Just curious…

4)Look at these bodies that Woodson has had to work with. Now tell me any coach anywhere could do any better. This has to be my favorite one. Do you know why? Because this, if nothing else, only lends further credence to the argument that some of us have been raving about for so long: BK had to go. And yet, some of the same people who made the above comment would prefer him over Sund (uhhh…Billy’s black and Sund is white…yeah, that’s a good reason). I laughed at this one so damn hard I couldn’t catch my breath. Or maybe I couldn’t catch my breath for choking on the irony of those statements (couple with others that I won’t repeat). Whooooh! I needed that laugh.

5)Then again, maybe that’s not the funniest part. Maybe the funniest part is whitey racist and blackie racist here on the blog. Perhaps we can arrange for a live meeting….I’d pay to see it.

By BA

June 5, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this

Hey CP, you mean if Woodson wins the title next year in the D you wouldn’t regret him leaving? I think we have to throw out everything except the second half of last year, because that’s the first time this guy had anything close to a legit NBA roster. My only real beef with the guy was his refusal to play his bench, and I even kind of understand that because he had his job on the line. And to the loser earlier that called Sekou a “shcill” for Woodson, you’re an absolute retard. This guy is a solid beat writer and he did a great job this year with this blog. Go read some of the garbage these other papers put out and tell me this guy is a “shcill”. Please.

By cp

June 5, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

Great post RealSquawk

By ray

June 5, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

I’ve always felt that Woodson was a bad fit for this team. I always blamed Knight for that. I blamed Woody for his in-game stuff. Look, clearly the dude doesn’t do well with young players, and he had a pile of them. The thing is, I don’t want to wait for him to feel like the guys are old enough to play.

Woody is probably a good coach for a much more veteran-laden team than he is for such a young one. No surprise there. So let him go. It’s either that, or you get rid of half our young talent (or more) and bring in a slew of higher-paid, older veterans. Heh.

Look, Doc Rivers had the same problems. Won 24 games last year. This year he wins 66. But do you see US bringing in two high-priced all-star vets? Didn’t think so. You can’t have it both ways.

Some people will absolutely hate to hear me say this, but look at Philly and Portland. They have as many young guys as we do. They both won more games. Portland didn’t have a veteran pg. Philly did, though. But every other position? Young, young, young…Only…those youngsters were playing, and playing with confidence. Difference? Coaching. And no, I haven’t walked anybody’s sidelines.

By HB Ando

June 5, 2008 12:30 AM | Link to this

Ray, if you get this, call the cell (yes, for the few of you idiots who somehow still think Ray and Ando are the same guy, it takes two people to engage in a mobile-to-mobile call).

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

Ray, I’m glad you responded to that post b/c mine would’ve been censored to high heaven lol. I couldn’t address those opinions without andding some personal choice words of my own so I left it alone….

TB, it was so funny B/c everyone else already knew that wasn’t poop except you….I just had to let it play out lol.

By HB Ando

June 5, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this

Sam, do you still hang on to the ridiculous notion that a majority of NBA GM’s would take ‘Sheed over Dirk, as we argued a couple of years ago?

And I have to agree with Ray: how many professional basketball games have you patrolled the sidelines? I mean, truthfully, your underlying inference is roughly akin to me assuming a position that my history as a hoopster gives me credible position to relate to the NBA 2-guard, and use such a lofty, self-annointed characterization to discount any contrary opinions regarding play on the floor.

If I remember correctly, you also staked your blog reputation on the projection that Eddy Curry and Jerome James were going to both emerge as the “truth” in NY. And where’s your other boy, Jackie Butler, these days? I’ll give you Monta Ellis, but I had him as my pick, over Salim, when Billy made yet another ridiculous draft choice. So the credit for your best call, to date, has to be shared with your boy, HB Ando. And I know how much you love that.

One last thing: you sure were awful silent as you spent the entire fantasy hoops’ season spinning your wheels, mid-pack. Gotta give my brother, Jhan, mad props for beating me by the skin of his teeth.

Run it back next year, Sam-I-am. You’ll finish the season looking up at Ando again……

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 1:56 AM | Link to this

Hhahahahaha

You guys are too much lol.

By Ramon

June 5, 2008 2:08 AM | Link to this

Ando, I respect all that you stated. But I have to ask, do you not think Salim would average at least 14 ppg in Nelson’s system? I’m not saying Salim is better than Ellis, but to get anyone in the 2nd round who can average more than 10 ppg is a good draft pick.

By Najeh Davenpoop

June 5, 2008 2:09 AM | Link to this

Way too much comedy on this blog… not the least of which is that my stalker seems to think I’m black, even though I keep waking up every morning and seeing my non-black face in the mirror.

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 2:10 AM | Link to this

Guys check this out. Good stuff, I was thoroughly entertained by some of these rediculous starements.

By Najeh Davenpoop

June 5, 2008 2:19 AM | Link to this

That link to the Mavericks blog actually made me laugh out loud.

By Ramon

June 5, 2008 2:27 AM | Link to this

LOL @ Salim!! Some idiot on that blog said Marvin doesn’t shoot well enough to be a 3, LOL! If theres ANYTHING that Marvin has that is reliable it is his jump shot!

I can’t lie I’m usually hard on Marvin, but when you think of him only being 21 it makes you wonder. I would truly understand if Sund went into next seaason with the same starting lineup to start the season.

If the fans come out, it may be enough excitement to get the Hawks off to a great start. If they can start off 20-10 (seems realistic), then they may have something special. Young players feed off confidence. And I believe the confidence they will have next season will be good.

If Sund chose to just tune up the bench a little bit, and give Woody a maximum amount of minutes that the starters can average (without injuries), they could be very close.

The only problem that concerns me is this season the Hawks were relatively HEALTHY. Its hard to see them being this healthy for an entire season again.

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 2:42 AM | Link to this

DDDaaammmnnn!!!!

By nahjay davnpooh

June 5, 2008 3:04 AM | Link to this

josh smith is ridiculously overrated. if someone is stupid enough to offer him a max contract the hawks should gladly let him walk. childress is a better BASKETBALL PLAYER, smith is just an insane ATHLETE that happens to play basketball.

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 3:34 AM | Link to this

What in the Hell is wrong with Joe??? Does he know how much gas is? Why???

By ray

June 5, 2008 3:39 AM | Link to this

Top ten reasons why Najeh Davenpooh is getting kicked out of the Klu Klux Klan:

1)Routinely targets the wrong race. Has beaten up four coal miners so far. All were white. All had coal on their faces. All were members of the Klan as well.

2)Can’t stay in formation during parades/demonstrations in rural settings. Keeps leaving the line to “play” with farm animals.

3)Occasionally has bouts of Terrett’s Syndrome. Unfortunately, the spontaneous utterances are all the same : “I’m black and I’m proud!” This sometimes happens during rallies.

4)Klan members recently discovered he has a poster of Michael Jackson in his room. He also has one of The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. The latter has a strange looking shrine in front of it. The shrine consists of a bottle of lotion, a sock, a pipe, and a hamster cage. The hamster looks very unhappy.

5)Got caught 6 times trying to buy bean pies from the Farrakan-ites on the corner.

6)Manges to light his sacred robes on fire at EVERY cross-burning. Tried to be smart about it one time and used a Roman Candle. Turned it the wrong way and injured 4 other Klansmen.

7)Listed “Blazing Saddles” as his favorite movie on MySpace page. Klansmen found out again.

8)Showed up drunk as hell with a 2 dollar vietnamese hooker at a clan rally 3 weeks ago.

9)Attended a Saint Patrick’s Day parade. Thought the green bags hanging from the horse’s behind was a perfect place to put all of the Klansmen’s pointy hats while they took a break and had a drink…Apparently those “bags” were hanging there for a different reason altogther, which everyone discovered when they went to put their hats back on.

10) Showed up to a clan rally last week with a “Buffalo Soldiers” jacket (he bought from Tyrone at the flea market), fake gold Star of David medallion on a fake gold chain (Tyrone sold him that too), a book of the Koran (didn’t know what it was about, but thought the name was cool)…and a Clay Aiken CD. That cinched it…

Najeh, that was just for you….well, for your stalker anyway…

By ray

June 5, 2008 3:43 AM | Link to this

SalimFan, you bring some of the best links. Hey, at Joe’s salary, he can afford the fuel. It’s the American Dream, bro’….

By ray

June 5, 2008 3:49 AM | Link to this

Sorry. Meant to spell that Nahjay Davnpooh. You get the idea….

Draft Express had some interesting things to say about David Andersen. It’s 3:48 and I’m bored…

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 4:09 AM | Link to this

Ramon, I Agree

Ray, Thanks and I can’t lie if I had JJ’s cash i’d be worse than that lol….He’s giving shaqs Big-Rig a run for his money though…

DavnPooh, that’s a mighty long laundry list Ray pulled up on you lol. Sadly, I don’t think the NAACP is accepting new members at this time, but you’ve defenetly given them something to think about lol.

Also ray, what’s the link to that David Andersen article?

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 4:24 AM | Link to this

Yup we need a coach pronto b/c this looks like it’s going to be more of a problem for Rick Sund…..

By Najeh Davenpoop

June 5, 2008 4:46 AM | Link to this

200 gallons of diesel fuel? What the f-ck? About the only thing that truck is missing is… I don’t know, a smoothie maker? An inbuilt machine gun? A bowling alley? SalimFan where the hell do you find these links?

By Samuel

June 5, 2008 6:52 AM | Link to this

WOW,

I call a pro blogger one who would stay up until 2 and 3 in the morning on a freekin computer.

High school and a little AAU thank you. I’ve got two in the pros right now and one on the way that ive coached. How bout yourself.

Yea, Ando you whooped me this year in Fantasy. Second Place, you can have it.

Still bet you on that Shhed vs Dirk. Many greater than Sheed have gotten moved. That just means you’re wanted. Dirk on the other hand is a loser just like Nash. Will never win it all.

By Samuel

June 5, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this

By the way, Naj. My wife bakes a MEAN BEAN

By doc

June 5, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this

start 20 and 10 when they didnt finish at .500 ball over the games that bibby was here against what was noted a very weak schedule? now who is going to get us there, a new player, a new coach? i know you have been right once with your december prediction but you havent followed up since ramon. as this team stands without a new coach or players and with no player time off because of injury is .500 at best. last season was an anomaly.

going out on a limb, to argue the coach thing….. as far as coach’s i will take kobe and phil against the big 3, doc and home court for boston in the finals. phil will be the difference and i have been pulling for boston all season. realisticaLly the odds should be heavy against the lakers with what the c’s have going for them but i think it will be DOC ‘s to lose or the players to win. has a funny familiar ring to it doesnt it?

By Sautee

June 5, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

Ray

Who knew you could turn blogging into a profession? You guys that stay up late are getting paid?????

Damn, I want some of that. If I can stay awake.

Here’s an interesting thing. Our new friend Nahjay first made his appearance on the last blog (Truth and Rumors…) at 11:22 p.m. on June 1st.

Check out who the other posters are there , right around that time frame. Answering himself to hide.

I think we have a repeat troll, changing his name and trying hard to change his persona.

And he’s getting the attention he is SO desparately seeking.

But his basketball posts are still few , far between, and mostly inane.

Just say no to responding (that is, do as I was unable to do before).

peace

By doc

June 5, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

one doesnt stop a fire by pouring gasoline on it. only way to end it is to rob it of its fuel.

what do folks think about the prospects for the celts vs the lakers, will it go 7, be epic or will the kobe crew continue its roll? hard to believe they have emerged out of the west with only three defeats or as many as the hawks rooks put on the c’s in one series.

By terrell barron

June 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Who wins the Finals matchups? Fisher/Rondo? I’ll take Fisher. He’s seen it all. He can back off Rondo’s non shooting azz to stop him from penetrating. Rondo cant do the same thing to Derek, or he’ll make him pay. Kobe/Allen? No Brainer Radmanovich/Pierce? Gotta go with Pierce because he can create his own shot either by taking it to the hoop and drawing a foul, or fading away and nailing a jumper. If Radmanovich’jumper is off, he’s pretty much the Marvin Williams of LA. KG/Odom? Now this is the matchup that I cant wait to see. Gotta go with KG, however I think Odom can create a lot of problems for Boston with his athleticism and rebounding ability. Best matchup of the series. Gasol/Perkins? Give me Gasol. Coming from Memphis to the NBA Finals should be enough motivation for anyone. He’ll outshine Perkins in every statistical category in this series. Maybe even rebounding. Perkins will probably look like a deer in headlights come gametime. What a series! I cant wait.

By Melvin

June 5, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Should be a great series. If it goes 6 games, I think Lakers. If it goes 7, Boston. The pressure is on Boston to win the 1st two at home. If they lose 1 at home. I can’t see them winning 2 in LA. Not with a healthy Black Mamba… Terrell, I’ll go this route with my matchups. Fisher/Rondo. I like Rondo quickness & def against Fisher spot up shooting (similar to Bibby). Kobe/Allen. Now this will be interesting. They hate each other (don’t let their good behavior in front of the cameras fool yq). Kobe plays Ray physical. Ray normally shy away from contact and struggle against Kobe def. It will be interesting to see how Ray respond on the big stage. KG/Odom. KG punks Odom on a regular basis while he was with the Clips & Lakers. KG by a landslide. Gasol/Perkins. Gasol all day. However we may see KG play Gasol more b/c of Perkins foul trouble and it’s a better matchup for Boston. Therefore you may see Posey on Lamar for majority of the game. I got my popcorn ready….

By Tray Coop

June 5, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

I’m a Piston fan that would love to see “Woody” back in Motown. He went down to Atlanta and got his feet wet a head coach, and did good this year. I would love for him to come challenge this Pistons to raise their play back to when he was there. Come home “Woody”!!!

By Ryder

June 5, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Obviously Joe is suffering from delusion for calling out Sekou on his take. It’s ok Joe, they have medication for your mental problems. Just dont’ take too many or it’ll reduce your already low sperm count.

I don’t think Woodson is the big issue anyway. Sekou what’s going on with the Joshes situation? It’s obvious the key to Atlanta maintaining success is to keep these guys as much as possible.

Why? It’s not about the fact that they are great athletes, they have what it takes to become winners in the NBA.

Just look at the types of teams that consistently win in the NBA. For starters they have great talent (something Atlanta does possess) but they also do the little things that it takes, like hustle for loose balls, position themselves defensively, and execute their offense in big games.

Also, great teams in the NBA have great chemistry, which trumps great talent. I believe Sund preached about the importance of chemistry in a recent interview. A full year of Bibby together with these guys will benefit greatly.

Teams that have no chemistry will fail regardless of talent. Just look at the Denver Nuggets.

Now what does this have to do with Woodson? Plenty. Just look at Phil Jackson, who wins championships because he knows how to coach personalities and let their talents take over to fit into a system. Say what you want about Kobe and the Lakers benefiting from the Gasol trade, but they still had to come together as a unit to make it this far.

We may not know what it takes to coach in the NBA, but we do know this: a team with chemistry like Atlanta’s should not be tampered with in any way, and it takes a coach who knows how to teach the mental aspect of winning to this team.

Woodson’s game 7 proved to me that he has taken them as far as he can. Time for someone to come in and take them to the next level!

By Wink from Lithonia

June 5, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Can you say smoke screen: Detroit has no interest in Woodson. The player may love Woodson alot, but he is not going to be brought in to coach them. They like Michael Curry a lot also. Curry will be the one they introduce as the new coach. He is close to the situation their in Detroit & may already be on the same page as Joe Dumars.

The players are not happy with Flip because he would not play the yound players. Think about it this is not Woody’s strong suit either. He did not, would not play his young player enough to help out as they backed into the playoffs. Guess what Dumars saw this, at the same time he was trying to encourage Flip to play his young players. Deciple of Brown who also does not play young player,but a good teacher. Detroit wants someone who will help get the yound guys ready to play while extending the careers of that veteran line up.

Also, Woody could very well be a consideration to be an Assistant Head Coach with the Bobcats, but that want happen unless he is FIRED here in Atlanta.

This reeks of the “Network” reaching out to stir the pot for an associate, to help him retain his job, because the Network will take care of him. This is designed to influence Sund into rethinking his position on Woody. If a perennial NBA conference finalist want this guy I better put the brakes on, maybe we should give him a 1-2 year extension. Please don’t fall for this Mr. Sund, his record after 4 years on the job speaks for itself. Yes we made the playoffs, yes we took Boston to 7 games, yes the team has improved, but a low of 13 games won to a high of 38 games won, & 8th seed in the weak Eastern Conference, & 4 blow outs on the road in the playoffs, is that really improvement?

Think about it this way, if the powerful Pistons with their 6 consecutive Eastern Conference appearances & veteran line up need a new voice in the locker room after 3 YEARS with Flip, and our 1 appearance with a high of 38 wins after 4 YEARS with Woody, we certainly need a new voice in the locker room; we certainly can’t keep lacing them up and banking on potential to catch up with reality!

The product has a flaw! We need a new COACH!!!! If it is alright with you Mr. Sund I would certainly let Woody go to Detroit or Bobcats if they would have him. Most of the fan base could live with that decision.

By Joe

June 5, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Ryder, too bad about my swimmers, because the world would be a lot better off with me populating it than someone who thinks Josh Smith is a winner.

Honestly, have you ever watched a Hawks game?

Smith needs to be traded NOW so that we can get something valuable in return. If we keep him through the season, we will lose him and get nothing in return.

He is not a max contract player, plain and simple. He does not play man-to-man defense, he is a terrible shooter and keeps shooting anyway, he cannot handle the ball and he has no mental fortitude.

Yes, he is only 22, but he has been in the league long enough for everyone to see the scowl he makes every time he is called for a foul. He has been here long enough for us to watch him take long stretches of games off. And the epic performance in Game 7 in Boston ranks right up there with Charlie Liebrandt and Eugene Robinson.

And this chemistry of which you speak. That is always helped when you have a guy crying about the coach telling him to do something that he thinks is below him.

In short, Josh Smith is the classic Atlanta athlete-all show, no substance. That is why Atlanta is a loser town, and the fact that so many people here would rather watch a glitzy athlete than a winning player is the reason that the pro franchises in town are allowed to get away with continually putting out such mediocre products.

By terrell barron

June 5, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

Melvin, this is’nt the same ole Oden. He’s always had the talent. Now he has coaching, and confidence.

By jhan

June 5, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Have to agree with Ryder. What kind of coaching leads to an average defeat in the playoffs of 23pts?

The only answer I can think of is - NOT GOOD.

By doc

June 5, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

ding!!!

By terrell barron

June 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Wink, he would’nt play his young players? wtf! Uh, how about Stuckey and Maxiell? They were basically starters. Even Arron Afflalo got decent min this year. What young players are you talking about?

By JohnnyLightning

June 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

If I were the Hawks brass I wouldnt necessarily do any backflips to bring in a coach unless it is FLIP SAUNDERS who is an absolutely incredible coach. Flip is one of the brightest minds in the NBA. He has coached the Detroit Pistons to an unprecedented six straight eastern conference finals. That is no small accomplishment and I guarantee you that no one else has done that. FLIP SAUNDERS WONT BE ON THE MARKET VERY LONG SO IF I WERE THE HAWKS BRASS I WOULDNT HESITATE TO REEL HIM IN. That is no disrespect to Mike Woodsen but Flip Saunders has accomplished what few in the profession have and that is guide his team to the eastern conference finals 6 straight times. Lets get FLIP and bring in a marque coach to help elevate the young upstart Hawks to the next level.

By O'brien

June 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Real Squawk, 4:03 pm

I havent read through the entire blog, so I’m not sure if someone answered already. I think ESPN stands for Entertainment and Sports Programming Network.

By PD

June 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

C’mon. This is such an obvious ploy by Dumars. He helps an old friend(Woodson) get a bit of leverage in negotiations with the Hawks, and meanwhile he keeps an Eastern conference team with talent weak.

By doc

June 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

uh johnny l., go back and find out flip was in timberwolve country for three of those years the pistons were making out like the atlanta braves in their run. your argument and cred go quickly in the first three sentences of your post.

By I.MUS WRITE

June 5, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Will the real Davenpoop stand up…..LOL…..

Joe- you are a f******* clown, Josh Smith was just an athlete 4 years ago when he entered the league…… the guy is only 22 and has gotten better every year….. What the hell do you want from the guy considering who’s been coaching him up the past few years.

How many 22 year olds put up these kinda numbers 17/8/3/2.5/1.5….. hell how many veterans can put up those numbers.

Josh does have holes in his game ~decision making/ shooting…. ahm but so does Lebron,Carmelo and countless other high profile guys.

He’s not a max player IMO but at sum point in his career he will be if he continues to develope at this rate.

Defense wins championships -the guy gave a future hall of famer all he could handle in the first round(KG)

This guy is no Mike Vick- the only similarities are their freakish athletic ability….. Mike Vick was puffn the cheeba during the offseason while JS was donw in Houston working on his game -that atleast shows me he is hungry and wants to get better. I go out to clubs on occasion and i’ve never seen JS on the other hand I used to see Vick a good bit…. stop with your lame azz comparisons.

Honestly right now how many people would trade Josh for Melo? I wouldnt touch Melo….. yeah he gives you 26 per game while playing no defense…. and is a me first type dude…. while Josh will be at or close to 20 this year to go along with great Defense…. and he is only going to get better……………… Trade this dude and we will regret it in the long run -just like the Nique trade.

By MannyT

June 5, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Look at all the good stuff I miss when I take a day away from coaching, I mean blogging.

First, I hope Woody gets a shot at the Detroit job. There is no guarantee that he will get it, but he deserves a chance to interview. While he might succeed here over time, his skills tend to fit better with a veteran team.

doc the love between Woody and the Pistons is a good thing. They know him and he knows them. It’s not one of those, I think the grass is greener over there deals. Thanks for adding the Sund-details. Waiting is easy when you have people under contract. In my non-professional, never been a sports team owner opinion, the ASG may want to stagger the contracts for their top execs in the same sport going forward. If everyone can jump ship at the same time, that potentially makes continuity messy.

Melvin it’s all good. As long as I still have the commercial rights, you WAF all you want ;-) I hope we can find our way out of the PAIN to the land of good CRAP.

I’m gonna get one of those 650SuperTrucks like JJ & Shaq have. I’ll park it outside of the next Ford shareholders’ meeting with a sign that says you can have a ride in exchange for a tank of gas!

SalimFan it is good to get an outside view on our Joshes. After all, it is the free agent active NBA teams that will set the true market value for their next contracts. I remember a story from a former airline executive defending his pay to a person on an hourly wage. He told the guy that they both got paid the same thing—market value!

HB Ando,ray, clark kent, superman because I have never actually seen both of you in the same place at the same time…hmmmm. I could have 2 cell phones with different numbers within the hour. Heck, I could setup something now to use multiple landlines to ring the same cell phone. Yeah I know, all that burly black guy, tall white guy stuff again. You always have to make it about race don’t you…or are we moving to size-ism now ;-)

If we don’t sign [David Andersen,—ray, this draft express article?] he is the most logical person to trade given that we have his NBA rights. There was enough euro-rights trading last season that there should be a market. Scola showed well for himself this year, as did Juan Carlos Navarro.

ray love the lists. as I steal from the Pet Shop Boys…I’ve got 1/2 a brain, you’ve got the quips, let’s make lot’s of money. Letterman used to be a weatherman…and look where he is today.

More to say, but I’ve got to work on some of my coaching techniques. Nothing like a hot summer day to tell a kid wax on, wax off…repeat!

…and my shout out to Mike Woodson’s agent—now is the time to make earn your commission. Market value is a beautiful thing.

WAFFI

By MannyT

June 5, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

Oops. Too fast on that (David Andersen](http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/David-Andersen-5222/) Draft Express link.

By MannyT

June 5, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Clearly, I’m blog spastic today. Too much time in the wax on, wax off sun.

David Andersen from Draft Express

By Samuel

June 5, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Let’s see: Flip has been coaching for 13 years and has managed to make it to the conference Finals and that’s it with: Kevin Garnett, Sam Cassell and Latrell Spreewell in their primes and a Detroit team full of Allstars.

Woody has been coaching 4 years and took a bunch of youngsters to the seventh game against the possible NBA Champions(while Flip couldn’t even make it to game seven). Looks like one coach is on the decline while the other is just hitting his stride.

Also: Didn’t I read in one of Cuz’s articles where the players (especially JJ) want him(Woody) back. You’re gonna bring a guy to town who was totally dissed and disrespected and expect the current group not to do the same. I wouldn’t think so.

The guy deserves at least a one year deal.

By nahjay davnpooh

June 5, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

joe is right on. if atlanta can pull a sign-and-trade with josh smith the shouldn’t think twice. he’s the most overrated jungle-monkey in the nba. he’s just an athlete. i cringe when he gets the ball when posting up, because he has no post-up game. he can’t shoot for s**, i mean, he’ll occasionally knock down a big shot, but so what. and i’m tired of saying he’s got this high ceiling of talent he hasn’t yet reached. that’s just another way of saying he’s young and he sucks.

josh smith is the vick of bball - he’s exciting, but his game has no substance whatsoever.

trade him because there is an illusion that he’s something he isn’t, meaning atlanta is in a position to be on the right end of a lopsided trade.

By SWAT Native

June 5, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

I’m not surprised that Woodson’s name has come up for that job; it only makes sense that they would at least look at the lead assisant on their last championship team. I often wonder if Woodson doesn’t privately shake his head and say, “if only I had stayed one more year…”

Sekou, one name that has surprised me that hasn’t been mentioned for the Pistons’ job is Bill Laimbeer. He’s one at least one championship with the Detroit Shock WNBA team and is link to the old bad boys tradition. Have you heard anything about him?

By Ramon

June 5, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

Doc, what I’m saying is if the Hawks can get 60-75% of the attendance to start next season as they did in the Boston series, they will be VERY hard to beat at home. You take players like Horford, Smoove, and even Marvin, you have ALL evidence to point to those three being even better than they were last season.

I think this postseason gave the Hawks a high level of confidence to feel they can beat any one on home court, and they can compete with anyone on the road. No one on this blog was sure as to how they would react to the intensity of the playoff’s. No one was sure they would be able to react with the right level of energy. But we’ve all seen they can, and more importantly, they have now seen they can.

I don’t think a healthy Bibby, JJ, Smooth, and Horford would allow this team to go below .500 during an entire season. Doc, one thing you must remember is the variables will be very different next season than in the past. Everyone from the fans to even the referees will have a different level of respect for them.

Another thing is the league sees there is NEW money to be made in Atlanta for the NBA. So watch they give the Hawks a favorable schedule to start the season off. They want to paint a picture where interest for the Hawks can increase from the playoffs, not drop down. Before a basketball fan, David Stern is first a businessman.

By I.MUS WRITE

June 5, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Nahjay- Cum on dude …. jungle monkey……. I guess every black man in Amerikkka is a jungle monkey to you ha-u nazi azz wipe……………… Y dont u go fall on a butcher knife or run out into rush hour I-75 traffic

What are u gonna do when Obama is occupying the WHITE HOUSE…….. wake up and smell the coffee -this is no longer the good ol boy/white america network ……. by 2012 hispanics will be the number 1 race in our country………. and blacks,asians and caucasions will be the minorities………….. Stop with the bull shyt before i choke you with that sheet you’re hiding behind.

By ray

June 5, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Samuel, so you do a little AAU, huh? That has to be interesting. Get to see the stars before they become stars. Seems like 90% of the NBA (or so I’ve heard) comes from AAU in a manner of speaking. So in reality, if you coach there, chances are you will end up having a kid or two on your squad who makes it into the NBA. Must be pretty cool to say “hey, I remember when I was coaching that kid in AAU!” Well, that won’t be happening to me (or probably anybody else here) because most of us don’t walk the sidelines…particularly in AAU.

Oh, and tell your wife to nevermind on the bean pies for ol’ Nahjay. They are on the Klan’s WeightWatcher’s list of No-No foods.

MannyT and SalimFan, all I did was go to DraftExpress and do a player search on David Andersen. You know, I thought that since Billy is gone, the Hawks may no longer be interested in grabbing this guy. However, I forgot that Sund is enamored of big guys. He might go for this. As far as worrying about adding another youngster, Andersen is 27. An NBA rookie, but at least he’d be more mature than a guy like Darko.

By ray

June 5, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Samuel, to respond to something you typed earlier: I can’t answer for others, but there’s a reason why you see ME on this blog at ungodly hours. It’s because I’ve been working the night shift since January. Even on my days off I can’t seem to sleep at normal night hours because I’m so used to it. And besides, it only messes up my sleep patterns (and I don’t sleep much). YOU try patrolling from 6p.m. to 6a.m. on the regular…of course, this wouldn’t occur to all the normal people in the world, for whom 2a.m. is “staying up”, but such is the nature of my profession. At least until I make Lieutenant, that is….heh.

On Woodson: Only one player has been that consistently outspoken in favor of Woodson, and that is Joe Johnson. Gee whiz, big surprise. Woody lets Joe do what he wants. Joe gets all the minutes he can handle (nobody ever complains about too many minutes). Woody’s entire offense revolves around Joe. It’s Joe’s world (with a little Bibby added in for flavor). Woodson likes veteran players like Joe. Both Joe and Woody are of the damn near same mind about the makeup of this team (they are not happy with the younger guys). Why wouldn’t Joe like Woody?

And as much as I like Joe, his last set of quotes about the young guys on this team are ironic as hell. He was complaining about a lack of the very thing he had (and left) in Phoenix. Things like that change when you come to another team (that doesn’t have those things) to be “The Man.” Of course, good ol’ Billy surely made promises: “We’ll build around you with our young guys and a good mix of veterans.” NOT!

By ray

June 5, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Ramon, I agree that we should be getting more respect around the league. And we should continue to earn it, as long as we don’t take steps backwards.

Joe, you should go to Phillips Arena, stand on the steps, and tell the citizens of Atlanta just how loser-ish they are. No really, you should. It would be the first time the local police were the ones holding the video camera and going “Damn, they are beating the hell out of that idiot! Somebody should do something!” Turd…

By ray

June 5, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

I don’t see what the big deal with Flip Saunders is. He won’t be coming here for a variety of reasons. Money and headache probably being the foremost. And he can’t do with this team what he couldn’t do with more talented ones (which is where I have to agree with Sam to an extent).

But if by some strange event he does, we’ll put Sam on suicide watch….

By Sautee

June 5, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

MannyT

That post at 2:20 was too funny man. Lemme breathe sometime.

But what do you mean non-professional? I’ve seen you posting late!

I just hope you’re getting “market value” for your professional posts. ;-)

By nahjay davnpooh

June 5, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

“i mus write”

no, not all black people are jungle monkeys. but obama does look EXACTLY like curious george.

and all yall smokin’ crack if you think obama is getting elected.

By BoneCrusher

June 5, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Doc Rivers is a great coach for the Celtics, but where would Doc be if the Celtics hadnt brought in Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. You saw where Doc was last season when the Celtics had the worst record in the NBA. I dont think Doc Rivers suddenly turned into a genius overnight. Doc just has better pieces to work with this season and I dont think that Doc Rivers is a better coach than Mike Woodsen. Rivers has more talent than Woodsen so Rivers looks like a better coach. Give Mike Woodsen Ray Allen, Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett and I guarantee you that anyone could coach those three hall of famers to the NBA finals.

By Joe

June 5, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Hey Ray, that is exactly what I did to all those losers wearing Kobe jerseys at Philips 2 seasons ago. It was disgusting and a perfect example of the pathetic Atlanta “fans.”

Glad all the fairweathers decided to buy a Hawks shirt when we finally got to a playoff game.

By RealSquawk

June 5, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

thank O’Brien I googled it and yeah that is what it means

why don’t we just ignore

Nahjay davnpooh

By Samuel

June 5, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Ray,

I used to coach AAU. I don’t any more.I do high school now.

Yea, it is cool to be able to spot them at a young age. It’s not always about the size either. You can just tell the ones who will make it. They just carry themselves in a different manner.

Actually, baseball was my first love. I played along side Dave Clark(CUBS, INDIANS, Astros and PIRATES)from 9th grade until he was drafted out of Jackson State. He is now the AAA Manager in the Astros system. I was a pretty good 3rd baseman. Could pick up BBs.

I played basketball too but was a perennial bench warmer. My best friend kept my on the bench. He went on to start for 4 years in the SEC, but I learned a lot during the glory years of hoops the late 70’s and 80’s. Jeff Malone was my roommate for a summer at Miss State. WOW, what a shooter. Talking bout given the reigns to do whatever.

I just started coaching my children and fell in love with it. Got tired of playing arm chair quarterback and decided to do something more than bumping my gums. Keep up the good work BIG MAN, you cats have much RESPECT from me.

You cats know how I roll. I lay low during the season and turn it up during the summer months.

By nahjay davnpooh

June 5, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

samuel,

you used to “coach” aau? lol, that’s like saying woody “coached” the hawks. there is NO coaching in aau. they just throw the best players on the court and let them play. that’s why high school basketball coaches hate when their kids go to aau, because they come back with all these ignorant “and 1” jungle-monkey ghetto-ball habbits.

By Samuel

June 5, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

And 1 is a conspiracy perpetrated by the liberals to destroy the purity of the game and thereby limit the number of white players,right Nahjay?

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this

Sam, I’m still getting over my late night study sessions for my college finals. But i’m just working now so there’s really no reason for me to be discplined with my time. I don’t need to be wide awake to sell suits but during the semester, I tried to go to bed at a reasonable time or i’ll fall asleep in class. And my professors don’t hesitate to kick the sleepy ones out of class lol.

Besides, I have a chronic extended-napping problem…..Three hours here, four hours there. So i’m always wide awake at weird times. I Blame it on the 24 hour Basketball gym that I frequent in the summertime lol.

Occasionally when Woodson would really p** me off during the semester I would stay up and vent. But now I got nuthin’ but time.

By Najeh Davenpoop

June 5, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

I don’t really get what you all are accomplishing by responding to it… if anyone should be responding it’s me… and notice I’m not…

By Ramon

June 5, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

LOL @ AAU. I played for the Celtics. I don’t remember any hard nose coaching or anything like that.

By ray

June 5, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Samuel,

That is beyond tight! Jeff Malone? I remember him. Hell of a shooter. It’s no wonder you could play third base well. I don’t care what anybody says, that requires an ATHLETE, especially one who has some ups. I liked baseball too (been to Turner Field 4 times), but the last few years have kinda put me in a bad mood about it all. But I do remember Dave Clark. You definitely have been in some distinguished company.

On coaching: something tells me you don’t coach AAU for more noble reasons. For instance, you’re more into the purity and art of coaching high school for a reason: it doesn’t have an underlying current of exploitation. And, you’re coaching for the sake of coaching, regardless of whether or not you’re looking at a pile of stars-in-the-making or just some kids that love the game. I’ve got mad respect for that. And thanks for the mutual respect. I really appreciate it. Comes in far and few between.

I’m afraid I’ll have to remain an armchair guy myself. I have neither the time nor the talent for coaching. But hey, we can’t all be good at the exact same things.

Tell me, what do you think of Mark Jackson as a potential head coach (anywhere, not just here).

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

Poop, you might have to lol. I rember when I quickly ran my doppelganger off. By not responding you’re just feeding the beast. If you don’t have a problem with it then why should he?

The Funny thing about that Mavericks Blog is that they all sound exactly like us, and that’s a good thing since there are a lot of sorry blogs out there.

It seems like from the outside (Non Hawks fans) the joshes are well respeced and petty high on the fan pecking order.

Ray, I think mark would be an exellent coach just like Avery. the difference is Avery was an assistant to Nellie for 4 years. PG’s know all te plays of their formere teams and some from former opponets. So it should be a smooth transition. With coaches though MOTIVATION is key. If he can do that then he won’t have a problem. I think Mark won’t have a problem putting his players in positions that maximize the use their talents.

By doc

June 5, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

schizo act anyone?

i smell a gemeni in our midst.

By ray

June 5, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

Najeh, sorry. I just have a hard time passing up a chance to amuse myself and others. Especially if it’s at the expense of someone who deserves it…

By nahjay davnpooh

June 5, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this

davenpoop says if anyone should respond to me, it should be him. but he has nothing to say, because he’s an idiot.

By ray

June 5, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Don’t know about y’all , but I’m ready for a decision already. Even if it’s not the one I want..

By nahjay davnpooh

June 5, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

samuel,

no, and1 is just garbage that isn’t basketball and won’t win championships.

By RealSquawk

June 5, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this

Does anyone know what happened to Rick Sund’s media day? and his interviews

By SalimFan

June 5, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

This was on Dime. If you haven’t seen this please watch now.

Nothing to do with B-Ball but this kid is funny…….probably b/c he’s not my kid….then it would just be a butt wuppin. He reminds me of my cousin in Alabama though lol.

By doc

June 5, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

here real squawk:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/basketball/nba/06/04/bc.bkn.hawks.sund.ap/index.html

By Samuel

June 5, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

Ray,

It would be a gamble because he’s never coached before. Coaching is like everything else, it takes time to learn. Talking a good game and knowing the game doesn’t always translate into being successful at coaching. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. Would you hire a guy as chief without one day on the streets?

I might hire him as a GM but not as a coach. That’s why I think that now is not the time to get rid of Woody, because he has paid his dues and maybe finally ready to move to the next level.

Why bring in a brand new personality with a brand new system just when the guys are finally becomming successfull with this one. If Woody can’t continue the momentum then let him go but I think you gotta ride the momentum.

By terrell barron

June 5, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

Was Paul Pierce faking or what? He was crying like a baby, and then all of a sudden, he’s running back to the court like nothing happened. FAKER! The media will call him Willis Reed before the night is over with. lol!!!

By Samuel

June 5, 2008 11:54 PM | Link to this

Ray,

I didn’t quit AAU for any noble reasons. The rules won’t let high school coaches coach their players year round. If I could, I would.

I really wish people would really get to know about something from experience instead of hearsay. Are there bad AAU coaches? Sure there are but the majority of them coach for the love of the game and actually lose money. You only here about the ones with the superstars but there are hundreds out there who do a great job exposing children to places and experiences that they would never have the opportunity to experience.

Are all cops corrupt. Of course not.

By mykhalc

June 6, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this

WOODSON has shown how creative he is capable of bein’…PERIOD!!! in 4 yrs he has shown 2 plays, basically. we all understand his roster situation over those years. but the fact he could NOT think of ANYTHIN’ else to run durin’ those 4 yrs is a CLEAR indication of his limitations!!! it’s time for a change…PERIOD!!!

By Samuel

June 6, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this

I’m gone. I got a pair of thighs waitin on me. Yall can have this damn computer.

By Ken Strickland

June 6, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

SAMUEL-firing Woodson wouldn’t necessarily require bringing in a new HC or a new system. LDrew knows the teams personality, the individual players and their talents. He was a PG as a player, and he used his speed and quickness and thrived playing an uptempo style of play. He would likely bring some of Woodson’s perceived strengths, but without his obvious weaknesses.

A new HC and a new system might be just what this team needs. This is not a very good half court or outside shooting team. But, we can run with anyone in the NBA and none of the teams that can run with us can match our combination of speed, quickness, size and athleticism. We are a running, jumping uptempo team that needs a system that allows us to play that style of ball. Woodson’s personality and indoctrination prevents him from allowing the team to sustain an uptempo style of play. He has a halfcourt mentality and is uncomfortable playing anything else.

By ray

June 6, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

Samuel, I hear what you’re saying. I’m not sure where you got the idea that I was suggesting that AAU coaches are corrupt. I wouldn’t know how they could be if they were. I just figured you got out of it for reasons that appealed to what you wanted as far as occupation fulfillment. Pardon me for thinking you had noble reasons for that, heh heh…

But tell me something. Why would you even consider hiring a guy like Mark Jackson to be a GM, but NOT a coach? That’s like saying “well, you’re probably not experienced enough to be a supreme court justice, but maybe you’ll be okay as President. Last I looked, presidents appointed supreme court justices (not to mention run the country…), and GMs hire and fire coaches (not to mention a million other personnel decisions). Just askin’…

terrell, I figured it was a stunt to kind of get things going and get the crowd into it.

By santa3247

June 6, 2008 3:21 AM | Link to this

Hi,I’m Seong-Ho,Yoon living in Jinhae City southkorea now.

I’m Sorry. AJC.com brave bulletin I can’t write from yesterday now.

Something fraude exist I sensed and I want to send messege to people of Atlanta Braves.

1. I didn’t meet and talk with any people of USA from past to now for important things.

2. I didn’t receive any money from people of USA. Keep in mind.

3. Babylon now can threathen my families and relatives freely. Keep in mind.

May the force of Messiah be with you

P.S:P.S: Below is my blog’s some article

Freemason

Theseday it is easy for you to read articles about freemason ruling whole world in the web. But, really speaking, this is trick of the most malevolent Babylonian living in korean peninsla for the purpose of imputating their sins to freemason and the original culprit are Baylonian whose language is korean.

And what is Freemason?

[18Century passport of Freemason]

The painting upper direction was in the passport of Freemason in 1785. Look presicely.

1. In top-most, the world Justice exist. God is Conscience and Justice sense.

2. In the below, Someone’s face is painted like Sun, and the middle of his forehead is wide, dark eyebrow, nose a little wider than the white, and you can find this face is something like Asian. Yeh Solomon, Osiris, Messiah,Lion’s face.

3. In the below again, Isis and another wife exist, and in center of both located Pheonix which means the guardian of Isis.

4. In the left side, Pyramid is and in right You can catch the flags of Judah’s 12tribe.

5. The sentence of script I can’t read for this word I don’t know well. ^*^

After all, this Freemason meant that people who didn’t forget Solomon and waited Osiris, and they were connected with Judah’s 12Kingdum. They knew so well about reality theeseday I am writting over the world.

[Article about Messiah]

And upper document someone wrote I think you need to contact, but never easily you could meet with them I think. But, they don’t know this fact “Allah is Messiah” and they would be people of Judah. The good people have to hand in hand with them, and you can’t trust people who don’t want to meet and help me, if they would avoid me they must be slave or descendant of not Judah but Israel. Person who can’t talk about Neutron and Resonance Schumann would be like witches and wizards who can’t tell “Voldmort” and you can’t trust them all and unbelievable. Originally Freemason pursuited the whole kinds of Justice about history, laws, economy, etc, and Freemason who chase Common Sense Babylon made must be slave or hyperjesus.

This Freemason was started to be fully attacked by Neutron from 1880’, so they caught the information about Neutron by intelligence office, they informed this secret to Judahs’ 12tribe’s Kingdums, World War1,2 were occurred by very this information You exactly have to know I think. Freemason informed the King of Japan and Japan invaded korean peninsla and southchina, but the insufficient information couldn’t defend themselves from implanting spy, therefore Implanted inslaved bosses of Japan attacked Hawai Island by the order from Babylonian who was living in north china and southafrica.

If Freemason would dislike the war about Babylon, that is proof of inslavery, because they were people who named Atomic Bomb to Neutron Clear Bomb. This fact the kings of Judah’s 12tribe couldn’t tell a nation for poor scientific knowledge, and they didn’t want to make nation to be horrified.

Mr.Obama is Freemason 32th degree I found article about him theseday. And he quit Jesus Religion. This fact is enormous hope to the good people in Asia around.

May The Bright Morning Star be with you Real Freemason ^*^

By ray

June 6, 2008 3:46 AM | Link to this

Let me get this straight: y’all (whoever the AJC blog censorship personnel are) can censor what Ando said to Nahjay, but you let this crap stand? Heh…

By peter piper

June 6, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this

aau basketball is blaxploitation. of course black racist types won’t ever say anything about it because it serves mostly black kids and puts money in enough blacks hands so of course you won’t hear any complaints about that. if it isn’t FUBU ,for us by us then it’s the man tryin to keep blacks down. what’s the difference between aau and and 1 basketball camps. any black a* racist will tell you that and 1 is getting too much money into white hands that’s all.

By richbrave

June 6, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

SAMUEL:

So sad Sam, but those who know say he must go.

By Samuel

June 6, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

Sure GM’s make personnel decisions but they have more room to take advice and rely on others for help. A coach has assistants but they have to make more split second decisions that are better made if you’ve been there before.

I haven’t researched but I would be willing to bet that there are many more GMs hired with no experience as GMs than coaches with no experience.

Richbrave, and who are “those who know”?

By terrell barron

June 6, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

This blog is getting out of hand. Come on AJC, your’re better than that!!!

By JohnnyLightning

June 6, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Woody would make a good coach for a team like the Charlotte Bobcats or the New Orleans Hornets who are basically expansion teams. But for a huge market like the Atlanta market woodys results come up incredibly short. I believe since Woody took over the abysmal Hawks, Woodys record is about 150 games UNDER .500 which is absolutely atrotious. Its time for the the wood chopper to step aside and hand over the reigns to someone like a Pat Riley who is a proven commodity. The Hawks have got to get this head coaching hire right since they are on the verge of an explosion with their vastly improved exciting basketball team.