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By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Well, it’s good to see that the embarrassment that was Game 1 seems to have lit a fire under the players’ azzes. Like I’ve been saying, I see us winning maybe 1 game if even that in this series, but I did feel before the series started that we could keep this series competitive and not get blown out. Clearly that didn’t happen Game 1, but I’m still confident they can look respectable in losing game 2 if they try.

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Nothing unusual. Fans want to WIN! Hey fellas, dont feel bad. My homeboy just came in town from Milwaukee and guess what was the first thing to come out of his mouth? I CANT BELIEVE WE PASSED ON PAUL FOR BOGUT! We’re not alone people!

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Bibby better back it up, with a better showing tonight?

By A Real Fan

April 23, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Drive the ball! Get the Celtics in foul trouble.

By KJ

April 23, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Good Blog. Bibby has to bring it tonight, However that might be just what the doctor ordered to get the other guys on the team lit up. The hawks that is. If we come out and play with everyone on it will be a better contested game and we might even be able to pull off an upset in beantown. If Bibby’s words offended fans just imagine what a triple double and a hawks win tonight will do. Let’s go get em boys! LIHF. (Lone Iraq Hawks Fan)

By corey

April 23, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

i just hope he can back it up wit his play if not he will look like an a*

By corey

April 23, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

but hes not lying i bet if the hawks did what the celtics did phillip swould be packed every night ATL has alot of bandwagon jumpers

By Ryder

April 23, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Good points Terrell. At least Marvin has made the playoffs, what has Bogut done?

Thanks for the analysis on their practice today Sekou. Any word on whether or not Horford will actually get his number called in the half court offense?

By HB Ando

April 23, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

By HB Ando

April 23, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

BA, it would be a full-time job if I responded to every person, here, who references either me or one of my posts. So, as a matter of practicum, choosing not to engage every single reference has absolutely nothing to do with avoidance, and everything to do with having a life. Your 3:24 post simply reinforces my point. You didn’t address a single objectifiable point. And you confused my calling your suggestion that I am Ray, as a dumb comment, with me calling you dumb.

Again, please outline what you refer to as “inaccurate insults” from my post. Try to be specific.

I have never, once, suggested that the Hawks should let either of the Josh’s walk. For years, I have highlighted the concept of players as assets, or interchangeable parts. The Hawks, lacking any draft picks, and much quality on their bench, can’t afford to let ANYONE “walk” (which goes as far back as Billy getting less than optimal value for Al Harrington). But, again, unless you believe the ASG will agree to a $68 million payroll next year (a point you continue to fail to address, as you don’t have any type of reasonable response to its implications), at least one, if not more, players will have to be moved.

I do not believe Josh Smith is one of them. I believe that the most likely candidates would be Bibby (so that Smith’s likely $11-12 million salary would be offset by the elimination of Bibby’s $14 million obligation), Childress (who is quite likely to receive an offer sheet for starters’ money, which we cannot match, given that he projects to be our 6th man for the foreseeable future), or, if we choose to pay Childress a premium, Marvin, who may still be viewed as having the upside of a recent #2, overall, pick, despite lots of evidence that he’ll never live up to those expectations.

The core of this team looks to be Josh Smith, Joe Johnson and Al Horford. Everyone else will either be a casualty of budgetary limitations, or an asset to be used in trade, to balance out those 3 core players, while maintaining whatever subjective “cap” the ASG imposes on the front office (here’s a clue: it’s not going to be $68 million.

The one caveat remains whether the ASG is absolutely confident that Joe Johnson intends to re-sign here, when his contract expires, in TWO years. Because without that behind the scenes commitment, then there’s an argument that he could ultimately be traded (he is the same guy who publicly told the Suns he did not want to play for them and that he did not want them to match our offer sheet).

So enough with the nonsense that anyone is suggesting the Hawks should let young talent walk. Almost every Hall-of-Famer, in the history of the NBA, was either traded, at some point, or changed teams via free agency. Changes to this roster are thus inevitable. And those changes will either move the Hawks forward, or set them back, depending on financial limitations and/or whether someone more competent than Billy is making the moves; say, Homer Simpson).

And so it’s not all about Ando, the Billy-hater, let’s consider Newkid’s question of whether we really want BK making these decisions.

I’ll leave that as a rhetorical question…………

By Astro Joe

April 23, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

Sekou, when you go back up there for Game 6, you’ll have to ask the guys in the barber shop why does Bobby Brown’s son (the one on MTV’s Rock the Cradle) look like Ralph Tresvant?

By Hawksfan

April 23, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this

Bibby nailed it, and unfortunately we are going to have to put up with a bunch of those front-running, obnoxious carpetbaggers when the Hawks return to Atlanta on Saturday and Monday. Ugh!!

I really hope the Hawks can pull a win off tonight to shut up (at least a bit) those cocky Celtic bandwagoneers.

By HB Ando

April 23, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Joe, you actually made a point without pretending to yawn. Nice.

In fact, Stanford is 550 miles from Portland. But I was couching it in general terms, kind of like a Tupac-Biggie/West Coast-East Coast kind of thang.

Know what I’m sayin’, G(I guess that should be “O”ld G, huh)?

But hey, Marvin is from Seattle, and he went #2. Durant went #2, as well. Maybe Seattle will give us Durant for Marvin, straight up (can’t even write it with a straight face)……

By Allen Iverson

April 23, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Sekou, the Hawks had a good practice?! We talking about practice, man. Practice.

By AJCfanatic

April 23, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

It’s about time. I hope the Hawks understand that Bibby has provided the perfect distraction for Josh squared, JJ, and Big Al to do their thing. The Hawks aren’t scared of the Celtics so they sure as hell better come out flying and get angry everyttime the Celtics try to best them..

By cp

April 23, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Hopefully it’s a close game. I dont see Josh Smith having as bad of game as in the first one (i hope not). Like someone else said, we have to drive the ball. We shot wayyyy too many jumpers. The problem is we have a lot of jump shooters. JJ is good at driving the ball but he relies on his jumper a lot. Bibby is a jump shooter. Marvin is better at taking jumpers. Law is good at getting into the lane but I doubt he will get minutes…I think we just have to push the pace at every opportunity we have…….If we are forced to shoot jumpers all night we better hope some are falling….If Horford and Childress are the only two people who show up again then we are in trouble….As far as Bibby goes, I just think Rondo will give him too many problems….Bibby is not a good defender as it is so guarding a guy as quick as Rondo just hurts the team…. If Bibby struggles I hope they go with Law…

By Mike

April 23, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Regarding Bibby’s call out to the Celtic fans. I suspect that Bibby is just being a class veteran, shouldering the pressure and trying to get the young guys to relax.

By Bird drops 60 on Hawks

April 23, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

Hey, Bibby. I don’t exactly see the butts in seats at Phillips Arena. And by your showing in game one, you need to worry more about how to look halfway decent while Rondo abuses you again in games 2-4. If this goes more than four, I’ll be very surprised.

By Gilley

April 23, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Well at least the Hawks are getting some media attention and a player is being quoted in the media. Now we seem a tad bit relevant in this playoffs. But his comments are true, but it is sad that our fans are even worse. But that’s another issue. I say be loyal regardless, come to the games and root regardless( even though I don’t), but I am a loyal fan and will always be one. Just go to school in Carrollton. Anyway read my Column. Hope you dont mind Sekou.. I’m an aspiring journalist..

Click here>http://media.www.thewestgeorgian.com/media/storage/paper523/news/2008/04/23/Sports/Horford.Shines.In.Playoff.Debut.Hawks.Suffer.Huge.Loss-3344115.shtml

By edward

April 23, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Boston fans are bandwagon!! The Pats almost left for Hartford,Ct. a few years back cause of them.

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

He Ryder, the Hawks would’ve made the Playoffs this year without Marvin. Also, the Bucks made the Playoff’s in Bogut’s rookie season. I’m not backing Bogut, just telling the truth.

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Hey Ryder, the Hawks would’ve made the Playoffs this year without Marvin. Also, the Bucks made the Playoff’s in Bogut’s rookie season. I’m not backing Bogut, just telling the truth.

By doc

April 23, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

as i said earlier in the day THE BOSTON FANS ARE LIQUORED UP so they dont remember what happened yesterday much less that last year.

heh mike, is that you? my girl is in the state playoffs for soccer and the first time for her school. minor accomplishment by most folks terms but since you got one the same age i know you will understand. looking forward to taking her to see the hawks and the celts saturday night, nothing better. how are you bud? been saying GO HAWKS for you a while now.

By Realist

April 23, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

When Bibby gets embarrassed again and the Hawks crash out in four games, will we all still think this act is cute, or will we have to admit he looks and sounds like a damn fool?

By BA

April 23, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Ando, I give up. I can’t be any more specific than I already have been. Like I’ve said before, I certainly hope you’re wrong about the upcoming summer. I believe this team is only a couple of players away from being a perrenial contender in the East. I could continue this debate, but I have to tap out from exhaustion. It’s fascinating to know there’s somebody out there that’s every bit as exasperating as myself. Consider that a dark compliment. In the meantime, I have to get ready to watch this game two. The news from practice is encouraging. I don’t think you really can find many weaknesses in the Celtics. I hope instead they focused more on their own execution. Because it would take flawless execution on Atlanta’s part to even stay in this game. Anyway, what are the chances K.G. and Pierce are off again like they were Sunday night? Pretty tall order. CP, you’re right- Smith needs to come out tonight and REGULATE the paint. He did a decent job on Garnett in game one anyway, save for his long stint on the bench.

By Rojon Rondo

April 23, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Bibby can’t stop me…………..

By TELL IT LIKE IT IS

April 23, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

ah man bibby is in trouble now….hopefully he can walk the walk tonight

By drmaryb

April 23, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Horford is gettin’ Love from Big PaPi! cool stuff!

By Rutuger

April 23, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

You folks who post those long a* comments do realize that nobody bothers to read them, right?

GO HAWKS

By Nick

April 23, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

We should worry about selling our own arena out before we start talking about another team’s fans.

What do you call those extra 10,000 fans that will be at Phillips Arena Saturday night? Oh, right …

That said, Go Hawks.

By Sekou K. Smith

April 23, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

Bibby was at it again before the game tonight. He cracked Celtics center Kendrick Perkins for his retaliatory comments about the fans and let’s just say that now it’s “really on.” If Bibby catches a nasty shot from Perkins tonight a la Brendan Hawyood on LeBron, you’ll know why. Mark Bradley is expounding on all things Bibby as I type. It should be interesting.

By O'brien

April 23, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

Ryder, I’m a big Hawks fan, but if I’m not mistaken, when the Bucks drafted Bogut, they needed a center. When we drafted Marvin, we already had enough Small forwards, and we really needed a PG…

By Mike Bibby

April 23, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

We will see who gets it tonight. Suckeeerssssssssssss!

By Ben

April 23, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the update, Sekou.

If, rather, WHEN, we win tonight, drinks on me for every person on here.

LET’S GO HAWKS! RUN RUN RUN

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Not only did the Bucks need a center, but they had also spent a lottery pick on TJ Ford two years before. Their Bogut pick wasn’t nearly as clueless (in hindsight) as our Marvin pick. Not to mention Bogut is a better player than Marvin anyway.

By preston

April 23, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

The Hawks have got to play better tonight….the butterflies of playing their first play-off game together is under their belt…..they know what to expect now. Call me crazy but I think that the Hawks can play with these Celtics……Woody has got to mix things up tonight…. Acie and Salim can slow Rondo and Cassell down…..they are the ones that actually did more damage to the Hawks than anyone else. Woody just has to use his freakin’ noggin’ to keep his team in this thing……play West more to provide a spark and wreak havok on defense. Losing the first game was to be expected, but a win tonight can really make this thing interesting.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Bibby knocks down that first shot… huge for him.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this

Didn’t Mike Woodson say the other day that he was gonna let guys play through foul trouble?

Joe Johnson picks up 2, goes to the bench.

I hope we score double digits this quarter.

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

And Marvin FALLS AGAIN!

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this

If Bibby misses 1 or 2 more jumpers in a row screw it get Acie in their to drive the ball

By Mad Hatter

April 23, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

The way the offense is playing right now it looks like we’ll be pressed to get 50 or 60 points!!!

By L

April 23, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

Im a little lost right now…

Joe is out with 2 fouls. Our R.O.Y is out with 2 fouls. Zaza, Smith, Chills, Marvin, and Bibby is on the floor……..aside from Bibby who’s not hitting anything…who’s going to be our next scorer coach?

By ray

April 23, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

BA,

You can believe it or you can not, but Ando and I are friends, not two different personalities occupying the same cranium. Doc and Jhan know this as well, as we’ve all talked to each other seperately and together at different times.

Trust me, had you been around a few years ago, you would’ve seen some epic battles between he and I before we knew each other. We used to throw down, like, every day. You have to understand that the guy I talk to is NOT the personality you see on this board. He’s not as ego-driven as you think, but is in fact one passionate, frustrated-a$$ fan (like myself). I’ll candidly admit that it took me a while to get past all that’s lost in translation on the internet. Look, man: even Ando wishes and hopes that he’s wrong about much of what goes on in this organization. Being right (and he has been so far nearly all the time) holds no joy. Hell, we’ve waxed long into the evening in our lamentations about the state of our beloved Hawks (and other things in life) until one or both of our wives artfully notify us that the sun has set some time ago. My wife is just glad that I’m talking to someone else besides her during the games. I can get rather animated.

Oh…and Ando’s a tall 6’5” 220lb white guy. I’m a thick 6’0” (In my shoes thankyou very much) 305lb black guy. Hardly the same person. If you saw us together, you’d probably think I was his bodyguard. Heh, heh!

For everyone debating the resigning of both Joshes and keeping Bibby: It seems to me that so many of you (and you KNOW who you are) have been screeching at the top of your lungs about how broke and lame the Atlanta Spirit Group is. So why is it that now you’re doing a 180 degree turn and arguing that we’re going to keep everybody that’s currently on the roster? We’ve not been operating on more than 55-56 million, guys. If we keep both Joshes, then we match any offer sheets that come up, effectively taking us out of most of the free agent market. And last I looked, Bibby is getting 14.5 million a year. Joe is getting what, 12 million per year, or is it more? So we’re going to pay more than 26 million a year for the two backcourt starters alone? Figure this: if both Joshes get resigned, it will likely be Smith for at least 11 or 12 million. Chill will get at least 6 (he WILL get an offer sheet around this much, I think). So that puts us at about 43 million in payroll for 4 guys, and one of them is not even a starter. So, we’ve got 43 mil in 4 guys, and we haven’t paid Marvin, Horford, Zaza, Salim, Solo, Mario, Acie, or Richardson. And that doesn’t include any “bigs” that people keep thinking we’re going to magically sign out of nowhere for nothing.

All I’m asking is this: if it’s the “broke-a$$” ASG that we’re dealing with, where is all the money coming from? Our payroll would be increased to probably about 66-68 million if we keep this entire roster. Maybe more. And this is what we’re going to pay for a team that might reach 40-something wins?

Honestly, I don’t have a really great grasp on all the financial stuff, and I don’t know what each guy is going to get paid. Can’t read the future. But the basic mathematics aren’t matching what has historically been happening here.

Furthermore, there’s really no use speculating what will or might or won’t happen until we know who is where when it’s all over. By this I mean, who’s the coach, and who’s the GM. As far as players go, if you think that no center, one power forward, one sg, a sixth man, a bunch of forwards, and a offense/almost-no-defense pg is the ticket to the future, then that’s not koolaid powder you’re mixing into your drink. It’s called cocaine.

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

Why the f*** does he go to Zaza? Put in Solomon PLEASE! Zaza looked like he was lost on that Rondo dunk.

By Melvin

April 23, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Marvin azz need to be on the bench. He’s just taking up space. Looking like a deer in headlights again…

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

And what kind of offense are we running again? People always say “we should run” “we should run” but we forget that to run you have to play defense!!!

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

Zaza sucks…

By Melvin

April 23, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

A Marvin citing

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

Did i mention that you also have to rebound on the defensive end to run?!

By BostonMass

April 23, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

0 points for Booby. Go sit on the bench. GO CELTICS!

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

Seriously, when is the last time the ball hit Zaza in the hands and he actually caught it?

There are quadriplegics who have better hands than him. No offense to quadriplegics, they are no doubt tougher than him too.

By Melvin

April 23, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

AC looks more effective than Bibby on against Rondo…

By honest_abe

April 23, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

why oh why has law been in woody’s doghouse?

so frustrating.

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Acie is taking Rondo out of his game. Look at that. Straight to the basket. Get em Acie!

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Was that an over the back that I saw Brown commit on Zaza?

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Glad to see Woodson finally give Acie some playing time…though it’s about a third of a season too late!!! Sorry guys, just a little fed up with the guy posing as our coach…

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

THAT is why you keep Josh over Marvin. How many forwards in the league can make a pass like that? Maybe 3?

By Melvin

April 23, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

Great pass by JSmoove. Good catch and shoot by ZaZa…

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

KEEP ACIE IN TO START THE 3RD!

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

KEEP ACIE IN TO START THE 2ND QUARTER!

By preston

April 23, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

Hell of a way to close the half!!!!! Acie Law made all the differnce in the world the last minutes of the first half…….if Mike freakin’ Woodson would only play Salim, West and Richardson more, then we might just have ourselves a game.

By mykhalc

April 23, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this

a WOODSON adjustment!!???…ACIE at pg in relief of BIBBY…OMG…ahhh musta been a DREW adjustment!!!

a ZAZA rule…since you are gonna get PT regardless of how you play then how about NEVER EVER steppin’ out to help out!!! ‘cause you don’t know how to get your a$$ back!!!!

a WOODSON rule…don’t do live interviews!!!!

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Mike Woodson’s head hasn’t quite adjusted to being hairless yet… you can still see that his face is distinctly a different color than the top of his head.

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

So, why is Horford still out of the game?

By ray

April 23, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Acie would definitely help when it comes to having to deal with Rondo…

Ugh….Zaza…what happened to you in the last couple years?

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

Why is he going back to Bibby? Acie is playing well. IDIOT!

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

Marvin really sucks…he always falls…

the times he gets to the line/gets the defender to foul him…its always a call that is very close to him committing an offensive foul or traveling

Its amazing we made it to the playoffs with marvin and pachulia being key parts of our team

By Melvin

April 23, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

we can’t play ZaZa and Marvin in the game at the same time. Neither one hustles to the ball… AC looks like a Vet out there. Woody give that Kid more mins..

By mykhalc

April 23, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

i know MARVIN is young but he really is not playin’ smart ball at all!!! i’m really sick of watchin’ him stumble all over the place!!! slow your a$$ down!!!

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Acie, Bibby, Joe, Josh, Horford. INTERSTING LINEUP. DID WOODY COME UP WITH THAT?

By Author

April 23, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

Smoove throws the ball away and then sends Pierce to the free throw line.

Please, please trade this absolutely retarded frack-up.

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Wow, Marvin is a Hawks starter & ZaZa is our go-to big man off the bench…wow…

By preston

April 23, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Woodson has something with Acie on the floor instead of Marvin…..I will give him some credit for that….I think that he needs to sit Bibby and put Salim in there now.

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Bibby looks OLD!! It looks like he gallops when he is going aroung the top of the 3 point line or just dribbling aroud! lol

By Clyde

April 23, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Marvin Williams over Chris Paul

By Mitch

April 23, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Marvin is GARBAGE!

By Mitch

April 23, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Marvin is GARBAGE!

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

The Hawks look like a JV team out there, it horrible to watch!

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

Bibby is not our biggest problem…it’s team defense…no one helps or communicates…

By fudd21

April 23, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

AC actually looked good but Woody takes him. I really dont understand that one!

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

You know, as bad as Marvin over CP3 and Deron is, taking Shelden 16 picks ahead of Rajon Rondo is arguably just as bad. If we had drafted him last year in the 5 spot, everyone would have laughed, but he would basically be our starting point guard right now instead of Bibby and our salary cap number would look a LOT better.

By Mitch

April 23, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this

I agree with Preston, but Woody hides him on the bench

By mykhalc

April 23, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

no shooters!!!! JRICH needs to be out there for MARVIN!!! hate to say it but the only thing we are is athletic!!!! not smart, can’t shoot it, not really defendin’!!!

By Clyde

April 23, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

The Hawks just aren’t ready for prime time. Who do we blame for that? Inexperience and youth or a coach that refuses to make adjustments.

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

So now we’re back to J. Childress as the backup PG & Acie sits after playing well…hmmmm…Mike Woodson….hmmmm…

By Darell

April 23, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

Bibby..shout up and play……. Bibby..shout up and play……. Bibby..shout up and play……. Bibby..Bibby..shout up and play Bibby..shout up and play……. Bibby..shout up and play……. Bibby..shout up and play……. Bibby..shout up and play……. Bibby..shout up and play…….

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Marvin and ZaZa are a joke and yea Bibby does look funny dribbling

but the FUNNIEST thing is that I have almost NEVER saw Marvin look like he has any sort of balance

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

Did JS not even make the top 5 for defensive player of the year?? Does anyone know whats going on with that?? I thought I read that in the paper 2day..

By fudd21

April 23, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Najeh I hardly ever agree with what you say but I agree with that one. There were a number of people we could have gotten instead of Sheldon that at least would have been serviceable players. Sheldon isn’t even that. A good GM would have gotten Roy or Foye or have traded down and picked up an additional draft pick and gotten Rondo.

By fudd21

April 23, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

Najeh I hardly ever agree with what you say but I agree with that one. There were a number of people we could have gotten instead of Sheldon that at least would have been serviceable players. Sheldon isn’t even that. A good GM would have gotten Roy or Foye or have traded down and picked up an additional draft pick and gotten Rondo.

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Cassell just told Cheryl Miller that if they make certain adjustments they’ll blow the hawks out

hmmm thats realistic….he is a playoff vet that can back up his words….so he pretty much has the right to say that..considerin its the hawks and look how we’re playing

but as a competitor…I just wouldnt take it so kindly to have someone tellin me that they’ll crush me!!

I hope they can make him eat his words

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

I love what I see from Acie, WHENEVER HE SEE THE FLOOR! It looks like we finally have a core to build around. Acie, Joe, Smoove, Horford. All we need is a better bench and a couple of shooters.

By A Thinking Fan

April 23, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Cash buys VETERAN help during the NBA playoffs…

Notice how many BIGS Boston has!

By Stick Your ZaZa In My Pachulia!!

April 23, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

Hey you guys are losers, at least I have great hair!!!

By Mike Bibby

April 23, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this

You guys are fair weather fans you didnt care about the hawks until I got here because I am the bestest point guard dere iz!!!

By preston

April 23, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe what I am seeing here…..the celtics are pretty much in control…up by 10 at the half, and it is not because of Garnett, Pierce, or Allen. The Celtics have scored more garbage points than anything, and Woodsons’ shizophrenic behavior continues……he finds something in playing Acie at the point….lets him play a few minutes a sits him…….Marvin is not giving you anything, and Woodson just let’s him play thru while Salim and Richardson sit and watch. Woodson will just sit there and watch his team implode before he even thinks of coming up with another plan. How long did we have to endure the hawks struggling to score in the first half before he thought about putting Acie in? Where was Salim or Richardson? I would be willing to bet you that those guys would not have giving you anything less than what he got out of Marvin. If we had a freakin’ coach with a modicum of sense and sensibilty we would actually be leading this game.

By scottbravesfan

April 23, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

Every city in america has bandwagon jumpers. It doesn’t matter if it’s Boston or Atlanta. Boston fans are just so annoying, at least the Red Sox ones are. They have the biggest bandwagon fans ever, even worse than the Yankees.

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Josh Smith for the Three!!!!!!!………….. ……………………………..NO

By Poor Hawks

April 23, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

Yea there’s several things wrong.

Poor Team Defense.

Marvin and ZAZA…..period

Horrible in the half court

cant shoot jumpers

‘lots of out of control shots goin to the rim

Its a complete embarrassment

By honest_abe

April 23, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

how long is it going to take for woody to figure out that bibby can’t matchup with rondo.

jj needs to start getting more aggressive.

By cp

April 23, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

SMH@this freaking effort tonight. Guys are not hustling. They are standing around not trying to grab rebounds.. Bibby is doing nothing…. Josh Smith is taking every bad shot in the book. Childress has given us nothing. Mr potato head then plays Chill as the backup pg although Law came in and played great ball. Duck is still falling all over the place and missing gimmie lay ups…. JJ sits down with 2 fouls for some reason then comes back in but is not very agressive…. SMDH

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

Darrell…did you mean shut up??? lol

By Authority Figure

April 23, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

The Celtics will be arrested after this game for cruelty to animals. Those poor, defensively Hawks. I feel sorry for those birds, and I thought it was guys in ATLANTA that liked to abuse animals.

By preston

April 23, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Wow……….I switched over to TNT at the half to listen to their take on the game……and Charles Barkley said that he wasn’t even watching this game….

By fudd21

April 23, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Najeh what about that pass by Josh. LOL

By b

April 23, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Hawks are not learning from their mistakes.

By cp

April 23, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

It is only the 3rd quarter but this game is a done deal… This is just straight ugly….Stupid shots, no hustle, bad turnovers… Might as well play Law, Salim, and Richardson… Marvin is doing nothing… Bibby looks like he is done.. Mr Potato head continues to baffle me….Marvin is 6’9 with long arms and is so called athletic but still cant finish at the rim and is tripping over his own feet.

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

waaaaaay to many uncontolled drives to the hoop, as Poor Hawks pointed out! These guys look really, really bad, and the worst part is the Celtics dont look all that impressive either. Then again, they are playing alot of subs!!!

By Don!

April 23, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

Yep, time to call PETA — I’m seeing a reality-TV show about a gang of Irishmen from the North East abusing some birds migrating north from Atlanta in a large building.

I think it’s rated TV/MA, and it’s something I definitely wouldn’t want my kids to be watching. I can’t believe this is something they would show on television. I remember when I was a kid, and I never saw anything like this.

Sigh.

Can we fire Woody now?

Later,

Don!

By cp

April 23, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Seriously why does Pachulia even play? Solo cannot do any worse than the crap Pachulia is doing out there. I dont think I have ever seen a team miss so many shots right at the rim.

By richbrave

April 23, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

HB RONDO:

Whew! This guy’s the real deal. Bibby is toast.

Horford’s eighth point. DAMM! What a rebound and a windmill slam.

By preston

April 23, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

Can someone please explain to me why Woodson refuses to play his shooters….Marvin and Chills do not have range, and they are not giving us anything…..we are struggling big time to score….we are down by 20 points, and we have two guys on the bench who will not hesitate to shoot……have we made a three pointer at all tonight? I am soo p** at Mike freakin’ Woodson……I think that the fans of Atlanta shoul come to Phillips Arena saturday with eggs and pelt Woodsons’ bald azz head to death!

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this

It looked like Law and Woodson were havin trouble figurin out what exactly they wanted to do on the last defensive series

Did anybody else see law looking puzzled as he communicated with woodson

By The Realist

April 23, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

A THINKING FAN, I totally agree. I understand the idea of a youth movement but we are too young & we’re playing like it. The genius GM either fails to see or refuses to embrace the fact that the presence of vets balances young nerves gone wild.

By ray

April 23, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

Tell me something. Is it just me, or is Acie looking more effective against Boston than Bibby? Yep. Thought so.

By Bravesfan79

April 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

The Hawks offense consist of:
A) throw the ball in the post, time after time after time, drive against 3 pple, get the shot blocked, Boston gets a layup on the other end.

B) the guy in the post actually is realistic on his chance to score against 3 guys, and throws it back out to Josh Smith for a 3, who seems to hit about 1 out of every 10 3’s he takes.

Im sorry but u gotta mix athletes with guys that can shoot. Its hurt GT basketball, and its KILLING the Hawks! Woodson is a idiot.

By A* Whoopin!!

April 23, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

This game is worse than game 1.Chills playin like shiet so is JS Bibby Marvin and Joe. NO HEART NO EFFORT!!! Hell I say sart Mario. Put him on Rondo and Cassells azzz. He can get the ball up the court. We dont have a half court game so there is no show to run. WE NEED DEFENSE!!!!! Bibby plays no D at ALLL and if he is off shooting there is nothing there. RUN THE DAMN BALLL!!! PUSH IT!!

By LOL

April 23, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this

Lmao@the Boston fans OWNING Bibby

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

Well, since it appears the Hawks are gonna get embarrassed again, the least they can do is retaliate for that flagrant foul Posey just inflicted on Josh Smith.

Let’s see… we need an expendable big guy who has very little positive impact on the game to commit a flagrant-II on someone and risk a suspension. Who do we have that fits the description?

Zaza, you’re up! Make yourself useful, homie!

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Preston, would you watch this game if you werent a Hawks or a Celtics fan??? I sure wouldnt!!!

By infamouskrs

April 23, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

and the OSCAR goes to JSMASH ! nice take…..the flagrant was a plus….just make the free throws !

By terrell barron

April 23, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

The Vets, Mike and Joe seem like they’re just happy to be here, while the youngsters, Smoove, Horford and Acie are giving it their all. WOW!

By Matt

April 23, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this

I love Acie and think he’s got the skills to be a great PG, but we need him to be a better floor general. Three turnovers and zero assists won’t cut it…

By Mac-Town

April 23, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

The Hawks overall game in this series looks almost as bad as Josh Childress’ line up on his fro..

By MJ3

April 23, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

People bash Marvin like there’s no tomorrow. And yet they’re silent on Josh Smith missing free throws, committing 5 turnovers, and committing stupid frustration fouls.

Marvin just needs a coach who’ll light a fire under his a*, and he’ll be fine. Dude played with an intensity I’ve never seen from a college player when he was at UNC. Woody just doesn’t push him. Josh Smith is just plain retarded. You can’t coach someone to not be stupid. Just ask JR Rider.

By Bravesfan79

April 23, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

Im ready to watch a real game, i hope Iverson can do his thing tonight in LA. Even tho i dont care for Carmelo or Kobe that much. Go Nuggets! OMG we actually shot a 3!??
wow i didnt know that was in the Hawks game ability!

By Bravesfan79

April 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

This game is almost as Ugly as Marvin Williams

By infamouskrs

April 23, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

RONDO…17 assists…are you kiddin’ me? just another “negative” on Woody’s “draft intelligence” section on his next (if any) resumes!

By preston

April 23, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

lol……..new jersey faithful….I guess that you are right, but Barkley actually is part of the halftime crew of the network that is broadcasting the game……it doesn’t get any worse than that!!!!

By Harry Hawk

April 23, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

Matt,

Acie’s hardly played this year. The guy’s going to turn the ball over some just from lack of playing time. Also, the Celtics play great D. In addition, Hawks players (aside from Horford) are rarely setting screens, being heads-up for passes, moving without the ball, or using any other helpful basketball techniques to make Acie’s job easier.

In other words, Acie has legit excuses. His main flaw this season was not looking for his shot in the small amount of playing time he was getting.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this

You know what is retarded?

Being 6’9” and having 2 rebounds in 28 minutes.

Josh Smith is the main reason the game is even this close.

By fudd21

April 23, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

Josh will you block Garnett out and keep him off the offensive boards.

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this

A FIGHT IS BREWING BETWEEN THESE TWO TEAMS…FISTS WILL BE FLYING!!!

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 23, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this

More than anyone, though, even Duck, the most disappointing player on this team has to be Joe Johnson. We are seeing his limitation right now — dude can’t do anything when confronted with a double team. Anything.

By Tiger Woo

April 23, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

I thought Bibby was going to redeem himself tonight. 2-7 from the field - 1 assist. Ugly!

It’s simple - take Joe Johnson out of the game and the Hawks don’t stand a chance.

By Realist

April 23, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

Who the hell is this guy posting as “The Realist?” He rips off my blog name? Who does that?

By MJ3

April 23, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

No, retarded is continuing to make the same damned mistakes for 4 years. Smith thinks that he’s Magic Johnson and Larry Bird rolled into one. He thinks he can bring the ball up the floor, shoot three pointers, and pass into traffic. And he’s so stupid that he doesn’t see that it doesn’t work, despite the fact that Smitty, Holman, Rathbun, and 3-D are screaming it during every game.

Josh Smith and Mike Woodson are two peas in a pod. Two d******* who never learn from their mistakes. Thank god they’ll both be gone next year.

The only reason the Hawks are even this close? Please. At least JJ has the excuse that he’s double or triple teamed when he gets a TO. Smith has no excuse except for the fact that he has the IQ of an ice age vegetarian.

By RB

April 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Can someone please tell me what the h#ll Mike Woodson is doing posing with his ring so all can see it. How about putting that hand on a clip board and chalk!! He has shown me all I need to see of his coaching style. What a sorry effort!!

By new jersey faithful

April 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

I cant stand that smerk that Ray Allen has on his face after every shot he makes…anyone else notice that???

By fudd21

April 23, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

Najeh come on man. Josh is 3 for 13 with 5 turnovers. That is helping to keep it close?? I know you like Josh but thlets not get carried away.

By preston

April 23, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

wait a minute…..did I just hear Rathburn say that Al Horford led the team in assist tonight with 3 when he fouled out?

By DHD

April 23, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

Bibby is right. They were wearing bags over their heads last year, however, you should keep your mouth shut UNLESS, being the veteran, he was taking the focus off of the young players.

It didn’t matter anyway. you can’t expect a below .500 team to compete with a team that won 66 games.

Get a BIG man in here next year.