Hawks

By Ryder

April 22, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

Real smart talking smack about anyone in the playoffs Bibby, because that worked out sooooooooooo well for the Wizards hasn’t it?

Better be ready to bring your A+ game tomorrow.

By Sean C

April 22, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

i just posted this at the end of the last blog, but what are your thoughts on starting chill over marvin? i just think the spark and hustle he provides is something we need from the opening tip. plus, we need guys to drive to the hoop more, and less jumpers. dont get me wrong, marvin has a pretty sweet jumper, but if its not falling, hes kinda just taking up space on the court.

By J. Bivens

April 22, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

….and that’s why I like Bibby. Man, I hope we can keep him around for a while.

By Nick

April 22, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Wait … that’s a comment coming out of the mouth of a “veteran with playoff experience?”

By James

April 22, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

I hope this fires our team up.

Screw Boston.

Will never live up to New York.

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By Dan

April 22, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

The Celtics are the ‘97 Florida Marlins of the NBA. They just went out and bought a bunch of good players. They have not developed anything. I am sick of hearing how “improved” they are. They aren’t improved at all! They just brought in better players. Last year’s guys still suck.

Bibby can say what he wants, as long as he performs. I like him a lot, but he played terrible on Sunday.

Sean C, I say leave Chills alone. He has been great coming off the bench. Why change that now? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it, right? Anyway, there are times when Marvin is hot. Maybe, Wednesday will be one of those times? I would rather see if Marvin is hot and keep feeding him if he is. If not, then Chills gets all the minutes.

By ray

April 22, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Nice posts by MannyT and SalimFan towards the end of last blog.

richbrave, thanks for your support. Trust me, any cop appreciates back-up.

By Sean C

April 22, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Dan I know chills has been great coming off the bench thats why i think starting him would be a good idea. Youre not going to lose anything from him by starting him from the get-go. Id rather have marvin coming off the bench, and testing how hot his shot is going to be from there. We need to come out with a bang. Just my thoughts really.

By richbrave

April 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

ray:

In spades my man, in spades!!

By cp

April 22, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

BA I saw your last post on the other blog. You know more often than not I do agree with what you say but I just cant when it comes to Marvin. He might get better one day but I im willing to bet there will be another 5 to 6 small fowards who will improve quicker than him or just flat out be better. It’s his third year and the cat is still having the same problems from his rookie year. I used to think that if he was more agressive that he would be better but not anymore. If his jumper is not falling then he is pretty much invisible on the court. He cant create his own shot, has poor handles, and has trouble finishing at the rim. I dont think I have ever seen a player drive to the basket with his head down as much as Marvin. He goes to the hole hoping for a foul rather than trying to finish and get a foul. I was thinking that we should start Childress over him but I think that leaving Childress on the bench is probably better. JJ is going to get double teamed a lot and the Boston defenders close in real fast. Childress acn hit jumpers but only if he is open. He struggles with a man on him and he struggles with trying to create his own shot. I say start Richardson and bring Marvin off the bench with Childress. It makes our bench stronger and it gives the starting lineup another guy who can knock down the 3 pointer….If guys double and triple JJ then it should give Richardson plenty of chances to knock down some shots….It might not work but at this point why not because this team has nothing to lose in my opinion….I would love to see Law get some playing time…..The guy can get in the paint whenever he wants and is a better passer than most think….The problem is a lot of our guys seem to have terrible hands….Let Law penetrate and kick the ball out to our shooters or dump it off to guys like Horford and Smith….As far as Bibby talking trash, does not really mean much in my opinion….I think the Celtics are so focused that they dont need any extra motivation….Thier fans are going to be loud and talk crap regardless….We have to make this series competitive…..Mr. Potato head has to change things up and say F it and show us he can actually make adjustments.

By A Thinking Fan

April 22, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

The NBA playoffs are about Budget & Vets! Boston has both…

ASG is broke & a broken Spirit!!!

Woody & Billy are their hires; what big name or good coach is going to come here on the cheap? It ain’t about Woody or Billy; it’s about CASH!

By Astro Joe

April 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Sounds to me as if Bibby is trying to get himself “fired up”. Oh well, I’m sure we’ll beat the heck outta this horse before they lace them up in another 31 hours.

That’s a staggering stat. 32 possessions when the Hawks were lost and trying to make crap up. I can’t help but wonder how much of that was Bibby and how much was Boston knowing which one of our 2 half-court plays we were planning to run?

By cp

April 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

When I said there will be another 5 or 6 small fowards better than Marvin I was talking about guys who were drafted the same year, the next year and so on. You get what im saying…. We kept hearing about he is this once in a 10 year type player or something to that effect but its guys like Granger who was taken in the same draft who is better, I think Travis Outlaw will be better….Rudy Gay is better.. I would not be too upset if we moved Marvin for some other pieces….I just dont think his skills are ever going to be what the so called experts said they would be….No more Childress at pg and sitting players almost a whole half if they pick up two fouls

By Ryder

April 22, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

First of all, to all those talking about sitting Marvin on the bench, GIVE IT A REST! It’s not happening, and cp quit crying about the Hawks not having Outlaw/Gay/Granger or whomever. Crying over spilled milk won’t make this situation better.

Astro Joe, good stats to bring up. It’s disheartening when you see how messed up Atlanta becomes when they operate in the half court.

They aren’t disciplined enough to run more than 2 plays overall in that set, and Boston’s defense prevents Atlanta from attacking the rim.

Bibby has to be truly aggressive from the onset if Atlanta looks to get out to an early start.

Defensively Atlanta must rely more on the zone and put a hand in someone’s face when shooting the 3. Be quicker to the ball on the boards to compensate for the lack of height.

By cp

April 22, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

Im not crying. This is a blog where we post our opinions. My opinion is that Marvin should come off the bench. My opinion is that other players have looked better than Marvin….I can sit here and be a homer and act as if this guy is going to be great but im not…I just pointed out how people were saying by his third year he is going to be this and that and its not happened. I was only saying how guys who are just as young and came from the same draft have developed a lot better. If you dont agree with what im saying fine but im not crying im just expressing my opinion. Whether you like it or not we have we will soon have to make a decision on who to keep and who to trade. But hey ill stop expressing my opinions because it wont make the situation better… I guess there is no need for a blog then since all we do is talk about the same stuff and nothing we say will make the situation better.

By terrell barron

April 22, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

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By HB Ando

April 22, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Bibby’s comments suggest he confused lighting the bong rather than the fire. After the embarrassing performance he put up, against Rondo (predicted, pre-game, by yours truly), he might want to sneak into the building and try lulling the Celtics to sleep. Posting bulletin board material against a Kevin Garnett team is about as stupid a move as a player can make. I didn’t recall Bibby having a reputation for being a knot-head, before he came to Atlanta.

So maybe there’s just something about working for this organization that sucks the brain cells out of it’s employees (though I can’t discount that Billy arrived here with a negative cell count, from the very beginning).

I see that none of the folks who choose to hold Woody as most accountable for our limitations, also chose not to take on my Doc Rivers analogy. 42-win improvement, from last year to this. And Doc was taking way more heat, with constant calls for his head last season, than Woody is getting here. Woody is a flawed coach, but Doc Rivers is all the proof you need that the GM has to put the right roster together.

CP, I used Rudy Gay as my prime example, at scoffing at Marvin’s 1 in ten years’ talent projection, before Marvin’s rookie year actually started. Marvin was overrated from the get go. All this talk about giving him time to develop. Big men take time to develop. PG’s usually take time to learn the nuances of running the point in the NBA. Josh Smith didn’t go to college, and was drafted 17th. Why hasn’t it taken him “time” to develop? It’s about time for folks to accept that Marvin isn’t going to become an all-star. There’s nothing observable, about his floor game, that suggests he’s going to emerge as a dominant player. He’s a solid stand-up shooter, and has some ability to go to the basket. But he’s a sub-par defender and rebounder, and he shows no signs of becoming a compelling assist man.

So what is it that anyone sees, in his game, that projects to an emerging all-star? When we drafted him, I said on this very blog, that his maximum potential upside appeared to be what we were getting, at that time, from Al Harrington. And since we already had a 25-year old Harrington, and no point guard, it just never made sense to bring in Marvin. As it turns out, so far, Marvin has not become as good as Harrington. He doesn’t have his range, and he isn’t even close to the low-post scorer that Harrington was when he was here. And given that Harrington’s status, on his team and comparatively, around the league, is pretty much an average starting swing man, that means Marvin’s upside is looking more and more like average, at best, and talk about him becoming great just seems like stubborn, wishful thinking.

Bill Simmons said the Williams-instead-of-Paul discussion is so sickeningly painful, that he can’t look an Atlanta Hawks’ fan in the eye if the subject comes up.

With Paul a likely runner-up to Kobe for MVP, and a rapidly emerging future Hall-of-Famer, we’re now veering into Sam Bowie instead of Michael Jordan territory, as far as historic draft blunders.

Of course this is Atlanta, the same city that traded Brett Favre away.

If it weren’t for the Braves, this city would have a stranglehold on worst professional sports town in the country.

3 more blowout losses to the Celtics, and then we can start to pick apart an upcoming summer of upheaval for the draft-pickless Hawks. Time to clean house.

By Jt

April 22, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Bibby has the GAME to back up his talk. Now he better go out and do it.

By Volman

April 22, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Hey everyone,

Coming up to finals week…boy am I glad to be done with school for the next couple of months!

I can tell you one thing:

I am happy to see Bibby talking about the Boston fans. It’s true. There were NO FANS in the past couple of years but all of a sudden everyone is a Boston fan. I have friends that are from Boston and they are all about the Red Sox and the Patriots. I have NEVER heard them say a WORD about the Celtics, of course, until this year. They are going to the Hawks game to see “their team”. Yeah, right. Your team. The Celtics do have fair weather fans, but who wouldn’t show up and cheer for a team that has the best record in the NBA?

I could be p** about that situation and argue about it forever, but there’s no point.

I was SO PUMPED for the city of Atlanta to have the Hawks back in the playoffs. Wasn’t everybody else? Wasn’t it REFRESHING to see OUR HAWKS on TNT? It was so cool to see them on there instead of FSN or Sports South. I was so proud to see them get some recognition. When Josh Smith made that block and went coast to coast, I thought he was going to have a good game that got him some recognition. He ended up being a no show, and he DID LOOK SCARED out there. The environment there was louder/better than any environment I’ve seen in ANY playoff games so far…I don’t think anyone can say that’s not true.

I’d like to see Acie get in there and see how his quickness will match up with Rondo. Guys, Rondo is going to get his shots. He’s got three all stars around him,and people are going to leave him open for shots. The BIG 3 are making him look great, face it. He isn’t necessarily out playing Bibby, but he’s played well.

Bibby and Smoove will show up for this next game, I hope. I also hope that Joe doesn’t try to get everyone when he’s getting triple teamed. He has to pass it out to someone and SOMEBODY needs to make a jump shot. SOMEBODY!

I’m proud for this team to make it ot the playoffs, and I am curious to see who the Hawks are going to trade for during the offseason to make this team better.

It’s time for the Hawks to make some moves this offseason, improve into the playoffs NEXT season, and then sign a BIG TIME free agent in next year’s free agent class to try to get over the top and become a contender.

Go get ‘em Hawks….SHOW SOME FIRE!

By Matt

April 22, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

LMAO of at Dan saying the Celtics are buying a championship. You got it completely wrong buddy. How about two shrewd trades by Danny Ainge basically trading away 80% of the Celtics roster for two all stars then making some key free agent signings in Posey, House, Cassell, and PJ Brown. Couple this with the development of Rondo, Perkins, and Powe (all players Ainge drafted) I would call this masterful work by a genius GM. That of course is something an Atlanta Hawks fan would know nothing about.

Bibby’s washed up and a moron. Not that it matters what he says. Boston is going to sweep Atlanta out of the playoffs regardless of what kind of fire he’s tring to light.

By Mainevent

April 22, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Mini-me better keep his yap shut. Fair weather or not, the hawks WISH they had the GM to make the trades that we did ANYTIME! Face it. He like everyone who says we “bought” our team can say what they wish. Of course we did! The Hawks front office “brought” mini-me too! If the Hawks had the assests to get a KG you think they wouldn’t have? Make sense mini dude! Talking about fans, the hawks fans dont support them regardless, winners or loser which its been mostly losers. I have been here 7 years and the professional teams fans are as fair weathered as you can get. Now College and high school is a very different story. You will support them before you support your pro teams! I say Mini-me needs to worry about Rajon instead of worrying about the fans. By the way, the Hawks good fortune this year (if thats what you wanna call it) is NOT because of this dude at all, it is because you got a stud in the middle….FINALLY. He is no better than Tyronn Lue was for you guys so keep thinking he is the reason you are here. IF thats the case he will be the reason the Hawks will disappear after 4 games as well.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 22, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

The Celtics would only be the ‘97 Marlins if they traded Allen, Pierce, and KG for 50 cents on the dollar after the season. Somehow I doubt that’s gonna happen.

By Mainevent

April 22, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Amen Matt - The Sqwaks are a JOKE of an NBA team, and Mini-Me is the biggest joke of them all. Maybe if the Sqwaks had someone on their team of value, they would have been able to offer a trade for the DPOY(defensive player of the year for you Hawks fans)and the most intense player in the NBA. MAYBE….but nope, sorry, stick with the bunch of losers you have now with your below 500 record making the playoffs. Pathetic and a Joke and YET this clown feels he has the right to talk? I can walk into Phillips Arena on ANY GAME DAY and get tickets for THAT NIGHTS GAMES!! Why, because the fans are out supporting the high school games thats why. High schools and College games rule out here. The Hawks are an after thought and has been since the Omni!

By Volman

April 22, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

I applaud all of you “basketball gurus” who call the Celtics sweeping Atlanta. You’re really smart. That was a hard one.

Matt, “LMAO” at you.

Danny Ainge traded away their entire roster for 2 or 3 years of the big three. There are no guarantees in those years for a championship. I don’t even see them winning it.

Now what makes me sick is someone like James Posey. He jumps around from contender to contender so that he has a chance at a title. I don’t see how Ainge had ANYTHING to do with that. I can assure you he didn’t “lure away” Posey, House, Cassel, or Brown. Those guys want to win a championship so they will go for cheap to the Celtics.

There should be something that says you can’t do that. I think it’s kind of unfair if you ask me.

But what do I know?

By honest_abe

April 22, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

damn ray a little disagreement and now i’m a clown? heh.. cold bro. cold.

after the game one performance bibby turned in, maybe he should be working out the kinks in his shot rather than firing up the boston fan base.

ando: clean house? really? as bad as the state of this franchise is i really don’t think it’s in need of a complete overhaul. maybe the ownership yes. but the roster imo only needs some tweaking. add a new coach and the team naturally progresses into the upper tier of the eastern conference. (by upper i mean top 6 teams)

it would be nice if woody had played around with some different lineups during the regular season. i’m with most of you i’d like to see marv start on the bench. but i realize its probably a little too late for experimenting and woody’s too stubborn for change anyhow. reference the starting of royal ivey for two minutes before going to the bench. what the hell was the point of that anyways?

By Volman

April 22, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Mainevent, you’re a dolt.

This blog will welcome you “Hawk Haters” and “Celtic homers”…That’s fine. I don’t mind. BUT, don’t you ever talk down to any of us. You’re not on a different level because you’re a “fan” of the Celtics now.

I don’t know how Garnett is so overwhelming better at defense all of a sudden. Defense is a TEAM concept. I see Garnett pretty much has around the same numbers (1 bpg and 10 rpg) as our 21 year old (that’s Al Horford for “you Celtics fans”).

If you want to talk about bad fans, go look at the Braves games. They NEVER sell out and they won the National League East for 14 years in a row. Atlanta fans usually do not turn out for many games.. It’s just a fact.

Another thing, I would say you should NEVER call any of the players on the Hawks team LOSERS. You first off, don’t have the right to say that. If you want to get on the team for not playing as “intense” as Mr. Big Kevin Garnett (who still hasn’t won the BIG GAME YET in all of those years and was insignificant for the past 3 years until getting traded) then do that. The problem with this young team is that they are not coached well. Don’t call this team a bunch of losers. You obviously don’t know a thing about basketball. The Hawks are honestly trying to complete a triathalon with two cement blocks tied to their ankles since being coached by Woodson. This is the YOUNGEST team in the playoffs, and have never experienced anything like it. With a good coach I can see this team reaching their potential. With some more pieces, I can see them contending in the Least.

Now you try doing that, dolt. I bet you won’t win.

By FlashMarker

April 22, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Remember the great quote from Al Michaels, “Do you believe in miracles?” Of course, he was referring to the Hawks winning the NBA title this season. All I can tell you is that if the New York Giants are champions of the NFL, I see no reason on earth why the Atlanta Hawks cant be champions of the NBA. So as it turned out, beating the Celtics will just be a tuneup for taking on a western conference opponent in the NBA finals, whether it is the Spurs, Lakers, Jazz, Nuggets, Rockets, Mavericks, Suns or Hornets. THE HAWKS ARE BETTER THAN ALL OF THEM.

By BA

April 22, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Boston fans, as clearly demonstrated by their posts here, are at best ill-informed dirtbags. The one guy says “we didn’t buy a championship” and then procedes to list the free agents they brought in. Boston/Chicago/New York/Philly, they’re all the same. These people, by and large, have proven time and again that they have zero class. Be proud of your team, your owner isn’t cheap like our fourteen owners. But don’t act like Boston has done anything shrewd, they tried to buy a championship. And for the record, they haven’t won a damn thing yet.

By BA

April 22, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

CP, I like Richardson a lot. But I see him as a backup two guard. I just don’t think he’s ready to start. He and A.C. should be our back up guards, not Chills and Salim.

By Harry Hawk

April 22, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Well, it’s not like the Hawks only passed on Chris Paul. They also passed on Deron Williams, who is not as flashy as Paul, but I’d venture to say that Deron nearly as good as Paul. Not only that, they passed on Ray Felton. Felton can’t shoot, but he’s averaged 14 ppg and a little over 7 apg the last two seasons. The Hawks completely screwed that draft pick up, but I don’t need Bill Simmons to avert his eyes. After all, there’s not a m******* thing I can do about it.

(Oh, and as for the Doc Rivers thing…yeah, Doc is not a very good coach. He’s basically managing the minutes of his starters. That’s it. He’ll be exposed at some point during these playoffs, just not in this series. I’m sure The Sports Guy has prepared himself for it.)

The fact is that we all know (or futilely attempt to deny) that ownership is crap, the front office is crap, the coaching is crap, and the roster, while talented, is young and poorly constructed. If Billy Knight can add two solid veteran big men (one starter, one bench guy) and a veteran shooting guard who can consistently knock down shots, this should be a solid playoff team. It won’t be a championship team, but I could live with a return of the days when I b*** about Smitty, Mookie, and Cookie Monster getting knocked out in the second round. Those days look pretty good right now. In fact, that’s probably the best the Hawks can do with ASG at the helm.

(I have to say that I never thought I’d long for the days of “Smitty ISO.” Have the Hawks EVER run plays since Fratello coached here? I think Bob Weiss might have tried to.)

By GoldenRetriever

April 22, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

The Hawks are a lot more capable and possess a great deal more swagger since the acqusition of the great Mike Bibby. When Bibby was acquired in midseason, Bibby transformed the Hawks into a team that was about to miss the playoffs for the 10th consecutive season to a team that now has a real good chance of winning the NBA championship. Bibby makes the difference between the Hawks being a mediocre team without him to the Hawks being a title contender with his excellent leadership on the floor. The Hawks are now a GREAT TEAM since they have acquired Mike Bibby. The Bibby deal by Billy Knight was the deal that literally saved Billy Knights job. Billy Knight probably would have been bagging groceries at Kroger had he not pulled the trigger on the Bibby acquisition.

By Mainevent

April 22, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

First of all Volman explain to me what is a dolt? Is that a new word here in Atlanta? Secondly, NOW doesnt apply to how long I’ve been a Celtic fan. Try 32 years….GOOD AND BAD pal, so know what you are talking about before YOU speak. You pretty much stated the same things I’ve said which is funny. You just said it differently..LOL! The hawks are trying…yes, but come on now. Look at their record YET they made the playoffs. As far as me not knowing about basketball…..yeah, Ok. I wont even comment on that one. FYI, I coach AAU basketball - (if you even know what the letters stand for)and have been a fan of the game since I was 7 yrs old….lotta years fella. Fact is I can say whatever the heck I choose to say and feel however the heck I choose to feel. YOU are not my authority. If I want to call the hawks LOSERS, then I will call them LOSERS!!! Period. My team was called a whole lot more for MANY YEARS and I took it. It is what it is. I could see if I was calling you out of YOUR name or someone in your family, but I think you take this a little to seriously guy. To start attacking me personally and calling me names (although who the heck knows what a dolt is) is a testament to the lameness of you as a hawk fan. See, I wont attack ALL hawks fans. Talk about the Celtics all you wish. Talk about Mr. Garnett all you wish, it wont affect me personally one bit. Maybe they should allow you to travel with the team and attack every fan that heckles them at games. Lol!

By BA

April 22, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Ando, have you not seen the steady improvement from Marvin every year? I know it makes your whole anti-silver lining thing works better if you write off Marvin. Doesn’t mean he’s a bust, though. And he’s certainly going to be an above average small forward. And please, seven reminders about your Rhondo/Bibby prediction is certainly enough. It was a good point, oh, six or seven posts ago. But you’re hardly Nostradamus.

By a tribe called qwest

April 22, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

I don’t know if you all agree or not, but Belkin was right on the J.J. trade, which has led to the fragmented ASG. If Belkin would have had his way; 1. We would have gotten JJ for one draft pick and not two 1st rd picks. 2. We would have picked CP3 or DWilliams 3. Would not have drafted Sheldon. Billy had been challenged on his draft selections by Belkin, the other Spirit Group members went along with Billy. Passing on CP3 was silly, but he was being spiteful. The Sheldon pick was just as dumb, but he went through with it.

By Mainevent

April 22, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this

All of you basketball pundits thrill me! All of a sudden because your team makes the playoffs, NOW you have a right to call someone else names ie ill-informed dirt bags. Fact is you are supremely jealous of the fact that our GM did what your GM couldnt do over the years, build enough talent to trade for star players. Again, name calling is really not necessary and just shows the level of class you were obviously raised to have. I havent seen one post yet made by a celtic fan calling any of you….people, out of your names. Again, ANGER MANAGEMENT…try taking a class or two and realize that these athletes could care less about you or anyone you know. Rooting for a team is one thing, talking about players who dont know I even exist is one thing, but to attack someone who is simply having a debate on a message board is beneath me. Oh, by the way, we have some more room in the FAIR WEATHERED SECTION FOR ALL OF YOU TO COME ON OVER. We welcome all!!

By Volman

April 22, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

Mainevent, it’s called a dictionary…or school. Please use one or the other to learn what a “dolt” is. Dolt. I’m not name-calling…just stating facts.

What 70 year old says LOL on blogs? Come on now, act your age.

You still have nothing to say to my response about the Hawks being “losers”. You simple said that you can call them losers if you want. What, are we in the 5th grade?

I’m happy you coached AAU basketball. It’s not hard to coach AAU. You probably run one or two plays, and let the players do the rest. I played AAU, I know what it’s all about. If you want me to, I can start listing off the high caliber players that I played against in high school… No? I didn’t think so.

Do you even read my posts? You have not responded to ANYTHING that I posted. You know they’re true. You know that Horford HELD HIS OWN AND SOME against “your Kevin Garnet, the defensive player of the year”. Where was that block when Horford did the sky hook in the lane? Shouldn’t have the DPOY blocked that? Shouldn’t he have not let Horford score? Hmmm. You’ve got a rookie out of position OUTPLAYING a veteran like Garnett….That was fun to watch.

Talk about the Celtics all I wish? I’m not the one going onto Atlanta blogs and posting about how “YOUR” (haha) Kevin Garnett is the best thing since sliced bread. I’m defending this team and this blog from trash posts by people who moved to the GREAT CITY of Atlanta for a better opportunity that they could not get in their home towns.. cough Boston cough.

CLICK HERE FOR A DICTIONARY if you still haven’t found out what a “dolt” is.

By jami$$ion

April 22, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

There sure is alot of animosity against the hawks for this to be a atlanta blog.Let’s make this quick.Could of had KG or Amare for our picks smooth & filler could of had allen for what we gave for bibby. & a pick since sea wanted capspace.But bk didn’t mortgage our future for a two year run,like miami.I unlike some of you are glad.Horford is the next TD & i don’t know about yall but i wouldn’t trade td for none of them head up sorry.Ainge did what any bad gm or smart man would have done.He saved his job.

By BA

April 22, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Like I said- dirtbags. You don’t see me posting on the Celtic page, calling them losers. AAU, what? Are you an NBA coach? No? Then you really don’t know CRAP. Spare us.

By cp

April 22, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

I agree with you BA in saying that Richardson is not a starter. I was only saying start him to give this team a different look. It gives them another shooter on the court. We all know JJ is going to see a lot of double and triple teams and it would be nice to have a guy out there who can knock down a 3. I would rather have Richardson jacking up 3’s than Josh Smith and Marvin just does not have that range…If Bibby is off again we will definately need someone who can hit that shot…When I brought up all those other guys I was not saying that we should have taken them. I was just making the point that they have developed better and im sick of hearing give Marvin time….I think Marvin will be the easiest player out of our starters to replace…At the end of the day I think we all are Hawks fans and want this team to improve….Some of us just have different opinions on how to make this team better….We will never agree on everything but I think its crazy that people insult you if what you say is not what they like….We will continue to talk about the asme thing on here year after year and you know why. Nothing has really changed. We have been discussing some of the same issues with this team for the past two if not three years…Until some changes are made the views will probably stay the same… It is hard to talk about something different if you have the same crap year in and year out.. We are still talking about we need another big, how weak our bench is, how Mr Potato head does not get it, our lack of depth on the bench and so on and so on…I want this team to win just as badly as the next fan but we are kidding ourselves if we think we will win with this front office and coaching staff…One last point about Marvin seeing how some people get upset if you talk about it… Until this kid shows on a consistent basis this so called talent he was supposed to have then there will always be the “we should have taken such n such talk”..It might not be fair but its just how it works…I dont think he is a bust but rather just a solid player. When fans and experts see how good guys we passed up are they will always refer back to Marvin…If he never puts up big numbers he will always be remembered as the guy the Hawks took instead of _( fill in the name you want)…

By MannyT

April 22, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

I’ll throw the DING in for this blog. Seems to be some harsh words bouncing about.

ray thanks for kind words about prior blog post.

I have NO PROBLEM with Bibby calling out the fans in Boston. That is less bulletin board material than calling out a player. I would guess that players notice these sorts of things (good/bad arenas & fans) and chat about them amongst themselves from time to time.

Given the state of expectations going into this series, I see the risk as similar to Woody getting on Doc’s nerves a few days ago. I doubt a Boston super fan will get a call from the good seats to come out and lock Bibby down if the Celts are up by 30 in the 3rd.

I think it would be more Ando-funny if Belkin came into the locker room to address the team. I could see a businesslike chat that goes a little like this…

*While I am a Celts fan and expect you guys to get swept, it is beneficial to my financial portfolio and bragging rights if you can win a game. The more the team is worth, the sooner I can force an ownership change…unless one of you knows a guy richer than me who would like to buddy up to the rest of your ownership group. Good luck tonight.

HA HA HA HA HA*

Speaking of fair weathered fans, it would be a shame if there were more people in Philips for the April 12th game than either of the playoff games. Hopefully a few more folks will RISE UP and get a ticket. It would be even better if it sounded like we want the Hawks to win.

This post is long enough, but I’ve got a response for Mr. Ando coming next.

BWAF

By MannyT

April 22, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Ando I enjoy your thoughtful approach to blogging, but I don’t agree with all of your views. I will agree with a part of your challenge about Doc vs Woody. Ainge did a better job of making adjustments during the past off season than BK did. At the same time, I suspect a level of stubbornness from both Woody and BK about making adjustments.

While there is enough blame to go around (ASG, BK, Woody), at the end of the day/start of the season, it makes more sense for the coach to adjust to the roster he has. Because it is not a fantasy team, significant roster changes are slow to happen in the NBA. The salary cap makes trading much more difficult for all GMs. Do you expect Devean George to be able to stop a trade? Did anyone really want Keith van Horne to suit up this season! Coaching and game planning are much more fluid.

In October, Woody seemed to recognize this and committed in words to coach an uptempo team. It generally seemed to provide better results when he did.

Unfortunately, he chose to move away from these strategies in November. He gets feedback every game about the level of success that his strategies provide the team. As a result, I put more weight on his failures because his position is the most likely to adapt on the fly to show results. Had he committed to an uptempo style for the season and it showed that the players could not flourish, THEN it would be on BK to make something happen.

The parallel I look at here for the decision making structure is working in a small company with 3 levels of managment. No matter how few skills the top level ownership may have, they still make the rules. The next level of management (BK) has to do its best regardless of top level competency.

(Not really supporting Isaiah Thomas here, but when I hear some of the testimony Jim Dolan gave in that sexual harassment case, it was clear that Dolan did nothing to help. It was like a Boston Legal episode where the lawyers main job is to get the boss to shut up. I think BK has had to face some similar challenges going back to the bickering over JJ and all the legal foolishness that has come after. If you were another GM, why bother dealing with the cap, the non-sports understanding judge, BK and the ASG?)

BK manages what resources you have at the organization, i.e. player selection via draft or trade. Once they are in house, the next level of management (Woody) has to do the best he can with what he’s got. He can always request other resources, but daily productivity is based on what is in the organization—RIGHT NOW. Reasonable arguments can be made for the in house resources, but I find it very condemning that most folks that look at the operation from bloggers/fans to NBA analysts & sports reporters come to the same conclusion that the existing resources are not well utilized.

Thus Woody goes first.

All that said, I hope we can keep you and the wicken crew from showing up on Monday with mystical traveling accessories. At the moment, I could live with a 5 game series.

BWAF

By doc

April 22, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

yeah manny t, the ding goes off and i put my scroll on, some of it i cant even find entertaining enough to laugh at, 8 yr olds on the playground pulling it out to see whose is bigger. life will calm down soon. could be a bleak and quiet summer of blogging, it has been fun to see few talented folks become regulars.

as far as biiby’s comments … why?

By MannyT

April 22, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

doc What does Bibby have to lose by taunting the fans? At some level I even think it’s a good thing from an entertainment perspective. Kind of like the testosterone soap opera…pro wrasslin’, someone needs to play the heel. It’s good for the business.

For all the blog fighters, we’ll give them penalty box time in the pool. That will put an end to the mine is bigger argument. Unfortunately, it might start a whose shrank faster fight ;-)

BWAF

By Mike Bibby's Deranged Uncle

April 22, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Y’all give my nephew, future first-ballot Hall of Famer Mike Bibby, a break.

I mean, when you have as many world championship rings as he does, and you represent a franchise that has as many championship banners as the Hawks, you can say whatever you …

Uh, nevermind.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 22, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

“I see that none of the folks who choose to hold Woody as most accountable for our limitations, also chose not to take on my Doc Rivers analogy. 42-win improvement, from last year to this. And Doc was taking way more heat, with constant calls for his head last season, than Woody is getting here. Woody is a flawed coach, but Doc Rivers is all the proof you need that the GM has to put the right roster together.”

I can’t speak for everyone else, but I chose not to respond to it because to me it’s not a very profound statement to say that adding a future Hall of Famer and a multiple-time All Star is gonna result in a dramatic improvement in your record regardless of who your coach is. But you are failing to make the distinction between bringing in good players and bringing in a good GM. Firing Billy Knight doesn’t mean you are gonna find another guy who will immediately come in and swindle some sorry team and bring in more than one All Star. In fact, more than likely it means you are committing yourself to another rebuilding project. And like I pointed out before, it’s not like the league’s elite GMs are lining up to want to work with the Atlanta Spirit Group. You seem to realize this yourself, since you keep gloating about the “summer of upheaval” coming once your John Edward-like prediction of “Celtics in 4” for which you keep patting yourself on the back comes true.

Oh yeah, and of course Doc Rivers is gonna take more heat than Mike Woodson. Rivers coaches a team that has won, what, 25 titles? When have the Atlanta Hawks ever been a relevant or prestigious franchise? Last I checked, there are zero banners that say “Atlanta Hawks NBA Champs” hanging from those Philips Arena rafters. Something tells me the expectations on the Celtics are just slightly higher than those for the Hawks.

In fact, if anything the Celtics’ situation is a half-decent argument for why the Hawks should keep Billy Knight (shudder). The same Bill Simmons you keep referring to (who is not by any stretch of the imagination a basketball expert, by the way) used to hate on Danny Ainge nearly as much as Doc Rivers. I can’t even count the number of times he ripped Ainge for forfeiting a chance at drafting Brandon Roy to trade for Sebastian Telfair instead, or giving Brian Scalabrine a 5-year contract, or taking on 2 years of Chucky Atkins’ salary just to add a late first-rounder… I could go on and on. But all of a sudden, Ainge was finally able to push his head out of his sphincter right around draft day and make a couple of outstanding trades to make the Celtics a championship contender. (Of course, it helps that he was trading with a Seattle team that was trying to dump salary and a Minnesota team headed by the worst GM in the league.) Looking at his tenure with the C’s almost makes you wonder whether Billy Knight can’t all of a sudden grow a brain himself, Danny Ainge-style.

(I really hope the ASG doesn’t read that last paragraph).

Firing the Whopper (Billy Knight? BK? Whopper? Get it?) might result in a good team 5 years from now (word to Mike Jones), assuming you don’t hire the next Kevin McHale, but it’s incredibly unlikely that replacing him will result in an immediate improvement for this team. Firing Woody will result in a better team next year, assuming you don’t hire Helen Keller. If you really think an average coach like Sam Mitchell or Scott Skiles (not to mention elite coaches like Popovich or Sloan) couldn’t scrape more than 37 wins from this team in the Eastern Conference you are delusional. I really can’t imagine a coach who can do a worse job than Woody has with this team.

And like I pointed out on the previous blog, arguing whether Billy or Woody is worse is like arguing whether you’d rather elect a giant douche or a turd sandwich. I only feel compelled to write this post because you seem to be straining yourself trying to pat yourself on the back, so I’m trying to make sure you don’t pull a muscle.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 22, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

I must also give some props to FlashMarker for his 3:07 PM post. You are officially the anti-Ando. Seriously, that post nearly made me laugh out loud. I will be really surprised if your last name is not Levenson or Gearon.

By BosnianBaller

April 22, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Bibby is right.Last year they were moaning like little b*** when they didn’t get the 1st pick and that place was always empty.Thanks to Ainge’s best friend McHale they got KG.

By Ryan

April 22, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Bibby is an ignorant DB, IMO. Though he has played for two of the most fair-weathered fanbases in history, which makes him a sort-of expert in fair-weathered-ness, he fails to realize that even when we were knocking out 18-game losing streaks we were still selling out our arena. And, correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t one of Atlanta’s only sell-outs when the C’s came to town? Luckily, in just 3 more games I can go back to never having to think about Bibby, which is my preferred state. And to those Hawk fans (all 18 of you): have a nice summer! Wear your sunscreen! Enjoy the Chris Paul and Deron Williams Era!

Ryan

By Volman

April 22, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Guys, I love to post about any Hawks-related news and anything that brings VALUE to the Hawks. Period.

I am not going to stand for any Boston fans (or any other teams’ fans in this case) to come on here and start talking like they know something. I’m going to defend this team (not blindly though).

I will see you guys at 303 during the playoffs, and 303 row 2 during the next Hawks season.

Look forward to seeing you all out there, Hawks fans.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 22, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

“Wear your sunscreen”? Bahahahahahahaha. Unlike y’all a 50 degree day down here doesn’t qualify as “nice”. Keep those snow boots ready, you’ll need ‘em by the time the Patriots start training camp.

By Najeh Davenpoop

April 22, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

KG wins the Defensive Player of the Year award. Josh Smith finishes 6th, behind KG, Camby, Battier, Bruce Bowen and Kobe.

By MannyT

April 22, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Najeh Nice HARP (HB Ando Response Package)

For all the talk about why a good coach wouldn’t work for BK…it leads to the similar why would a better than BK GM work for ASG? At least the coach has BK to buffer some of their ownership issues. Now that Bernie’s gone, BK has no shielding from the direct rays of the ownership sunlight.

His pupils could be scorched to ash by now.

BWAF

By doc

April 22, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

volman i will be in section 113, maybe we can get a few together to chat up the hawks. looking forward to the event no matter the outcome. i am going to find something in the closet that can compete with whatever manny t can pull out of his.

flashmarker is just plain sick. sorry dude, go get your medicine before the delusional thinking spreads into other areas of your life if it hasnt already.

aj, see your boy mark made an attempt to get belkin for an interview? glad to hear he is wishing us well … yeah, right!

By Clyde

April 22, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Volman its hard to defend your team when your team doesn’t defend itself. The truth is the truth. You can defend the Hawks all you want but if they don’t go out on the court and perform then your wasting your time.

And speaking of wasting my time I’m starting to believe I’m wasting my time posting on this blog. The Hawks are starting to remind me of that alcoholic cousin that just won’t leave the drugs and alcohol alone. There come a time when you just have to sever your ties with him and hope to God he gets his life together. This is how I feel about the Hawks.

By Volman

April 22, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Doc, awesome man. I will be in 303 next season because they increased the season ticket prices and I’m a poor college student! hah… Wish I could get some better seats!

I will have my “Sam Cassel= Alien” sign in 303 during games 3 and 4.

Clyde,

If you actually read my post I did talk about the Hawks not showing up for games…I don’t defend the team when they don’t play well. I sure as hell will defend them though against people who don’t know what they’re talking about.

I blog on here not for ANYONE ELSE’s SAKE. I do it for fun. :-) It’s fun for me to come on here and defend the Hawks. It’s as much fun as you constantly posting fire billy and woody.

Just have fun.

By MannyT

April 22, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

Volman I’ll be in 303 G for the playoffs. I ditched a seat to drop into 108 for next season. Too bad for my neighbor.

My screen does autoscroll on the beantown bloggers.

Najeh Nice HARP (HB Ando Response Package). Using his own argument, why would a “good” GM want to come here and work directly for the ASG? When BK started, Bernie Mullin was around to defect the insanity. At least Woody or the next coach has one layer of buffer unless they pull a Jerry Jones.

BWAF

By jami$$ion

April 22, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

This discussion is far too petty to be so volatile.But being that i am an authentic citizen of atlanta, & resident of this blog.It is my civil duty to address you with the most gentle,polite,warmth of southern hospitality i know.Fu(K U!You sound so mentally challenged,”i hate atlanta it doesn’t have this or that blahblahblah.”And that is find you are entitled to your opinion,but your opinion is not welcome,respected,or valid here.It only shows your intellectual capacity is misconstrued.

By MannyT

April 22, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

doc I’ve got something special, but not too wild, coming in time for Saturday’s game. I’ll confirm once it arrives. I’ll be easy to find as I show some support for the bench.

Clyde If you don’t stay, you will have time to get on the Atlanta Dream bandwagon. No one to fire yet, but I’m sure they will enjoy any support.

How about this for amusement. Good thing that BK didn’t sign Dampier. He’s got about $33 Million left on that contract for the next 3 seasons. Avery is calling him out for not being an enforcer because Dirk got slapped.

As TBS would say…now that’s funny.

BWAF

By MannyT

April 22, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Quasi double posting, misspelling…enough.

The BCU might lock me down in that penalty pool with the rough and tumble bloggers.

Time to self regulate. No more blogging for awhile.

Gotta get it together for the Western conference games tonight…Good evening folks.

BWAF

By Scott

April 22, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

*By Dan

April 22, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

The Celtics are the ‘97 Florida Marlins of the NBA. They just went out and bought a bunch of good players. They have not developed anything. I am sick of hearing how “improved” they are. They aren’t improved at all! They just brought in better players. Last year’s guys still suck.*

Are you serious? Celtics didn’t sign Garnett and Allen as Free Agents… they were trades that were worked out using the chips that Ainge built up in the draft. THAT IS WHAT YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO DO. The players from last year suck?? Rondo… sucks??? Right.

By Astro Joe

April 22, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Doc, yeah, I saw that Bradley was good enough to get an extended “no comment” from Belkin. A real Pulitzer prize winner, that Bradley.

I was able to convince a very dedicated Ticketmaster employee to allow me to switch my Game 3 tickets to Game 4. I try to give my weekends to the family. So I’m on the prowl for a Horford jersey or t-shirt. This will be the first time I’ve ever purchased a player’s gear, I usually opt for team merchandise. But I like “The Lil Fundamental” so much that I’ll ante up some cash for something with his name/number on it.

Let’s hope that Smith avoids wings, ranch dressing, turnovers, barbers and long distance jumpers in the next 27 hours.

By Volman

April 22, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Manny T, those seats seem great. You will have fun next season.

Hope I wasn’t too loud and obnoxious during the season! haha

By Don M.

April 22, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

Good constructive debate here. Did the C’s buy a championship? No. They used the system that the NBA built to go down the veteran road versus young athletes. Hawks fans are just hating on the Celtics because we’re winning. We Celtics fans would do the same if the shoe was on the other foot. That’s how the sports world works for fans.

If any schmuck wants to say I’m on the bandwagon, you can go f yourself. I’ve been a fan since the early 80s, watched them in the horrible Rick Patino days, got hope when the Antoine and Pierce teams almost made some noise in the playoffs, and struggled throughout the past few yeas.

Regardless, there are a lot of bandwagon fans with all winning teams. This year and with the Celtics is no different. Truth be told, the Garden is always at capacity or close to it - even during the past few years when the team was more entertaining than a winner.

I can’t speak to the Hawks franchise because I’m a Boston fan. But I’m sure if they beat the Celtics, the bandwagon will need more seats.

However, the Celtics will sweep Mr. Bibby and the Hawks.

Wait ‘till next year boys.

By A Thinking Fan

April 22, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

once again

The NBA playoffs are about Budget & Vets! Boston has both…

ASG is broke & a broken Spirit!!!

Woody & Billy are their hires; what big name or good coach is going to come here on the cheap? It ain’t about Woody or Billy; it’s about CASH!

By are you serious

April 22, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

Chris Paul at this point in the game has 27 points and I think 13 dimes…. How people still defend Marvin Williams is beyond me….Im willing to go out on a limb here and say Marvin wont score no more than 15 points in the next game…..It is time for people to put down the koolaid and admit that this kid will never be a star…. Chris Paul is going to finish in the top 3 of MVP voting while many fans are wondering if it would be better to bring Marvin Williams off the bench… I think that pretty much says enough…

By scottbravesfan

April 22, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

Boston fans don’t support anything unless they are winning. The Thrashers, yes the THRASHERS outdraw the Bruins every year. The Celtics couldn’t draw flies the last few years and they have had playoff years, not a long streak like the Hawks. The Patriots almost left New England and they were always blacked out, even though they went to the super bowl in 96 and back in the 80s. When Roger Clemens struck out 20 back in 86 there was less than 20,000 fans there. And Red Sox went to the World Series that year. So Boston fans can’t talk.

By scottbravesfan

April 22, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

You want to know how the Boston media thinks of their sports fans?

http://www.boston.com/sports/nesn/wilbur/sportsblog/blog/2008/04/22/hockeytownnotquite/

Takes the p** out of their “fans” Makes fun of all the bandwagon Red Sox fans and the ones that showed up last week as “diehard” Bruins fans. Now all of those Bruin fans are back to rooting for which ever team is winning since they were destroyed by the Canadians. Oh and at least the Thrashers could sell out their arena for the playoffs last year. The Garden had TONS of Canadian fans for every “home” Boston game.

By Steve T

April 22, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

Manny T, you do not let anyone slap your SuperStar. You take a tech before you let them get away with that. I can still see Robert Parrish beat Bill Lamibeer down for hitting Bird.

By HB Ando

April 22, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

Mind boggling! We get trounced, by 23, and Marvin contributes 9 points, 3 rebounds, 0 assists, and 4 turnovers.

Meanwhile, tonight, New Orleans goes up 2 games to naught, over the Mavs, with Chris Paul casually tossing in 32 points, 17 dimes, 5 boards, and 3 steals.

Yet still there remain folks here, on this very blog, who continue to act like Billy Knight’s decision to draft Marvin is a work in progress; too early to draw a conclusion!

Seriously, get a grip! Short of Bowie instead of Jordan, this may be the the second greatest draft blunder in the history of the NBA. And the fact that Billy followed it up with the Shelden pick, while Roy, Foy and Gay were all on the board, arguably makes him the worst drafter in the history of the NBA.

Please, someone, anyone, objectify a worse series of lottery decisions than Billy made, from ‘04 to ‘06. Just give me names, slots, and players passed on, that exceed Billy’s failures.

Don’t babble about what Marvin might become. Don’t undermine your credibility by still hanging on to the idea that Childress is a peer of Igoudala or Deng. Don’t ignore the fact that Monta Ellis was projected to be a late first round pick, and that Billy chose Salim when Ellis was still on the board.

Just man up and admit the guy is a buffoon. How hard is that??!!

By mykhalc

April 22, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

pls we KNOW CP3 can ball at this point!!!

By BA

April 22, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

This is all a part of the learning experience for the Hawks. How can you really expect these young players to know how to carry themselves in the playoffs? The Bibby performance baffles me. Yeah, Rhondo did a good job on D, but half of Bibby’s missed shots were wide open. A.C. Law could’ve (should’ve) been a big part of this series. For all the griping about point guards over the past few years, we have the talent here now, but Woodson has wasted it. I hope this game one loss really hurt the Hawks. No, I hope it made them ANGRY. Horford and Childress came out and acted like they BELONG in this series. Time for the other starters to follow the example set by those two. And Mike Bibby, you better put up some SERIOUS numbers in game two. And please, don’t eat the room service. Not even the mint, sir.

By Volman

April 22, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I think MOSTLY everyone has realized that Chris Paul is a superstar.

Why continue to worry about the past it’s not going to change anything? Honestly…

I’m glad that the Hawks have Horford for A LONG TIME.. Now he’s someone to build around. Chris Paul is a superstar, but I can see Horford being great as well.

By drmaryb

April 22, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

Hey If I may jump in here:
I was posting on the old blog for a lack of knowing: There wz a New Blog!

By drmaryb

April 22, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Go ray-star

your stuff is ridiculous that’s all I can say - Get Em’!.

Yeah! man I got love for anybody who got passion an opinion and some game! If you can dish it and take it?

I say Bring it On! Just don’t cry when I bust you in your face - because, I don’t cry when they bust me in mine.

So, There is no crying on the - Blog Crimes Unit! No - cry-babies! (That’s My Motto!)

Speaking of cry-babies, it that a (wah! wah! waaah!) I hear coming over there from HOUSTON, TX?

What in the world is Rick Adleman complaining about? -

Officiating? Officiating - Your’e talking to me about - OFFICIATING?

What is this Tracey McGrady crap all about? This bum is one-dimensional and is apparently allergic to DEFENSE, much like the HAWKS are. And, his candy-butt Is complaining about OFFICIATING?

I Don’t even talk about the Hawks anymore. (in case you all haven’t noticed!)

They Hawks haven’t done a damn thing for me - LATELY and until they do? Nuff Said! It’s all been said before.

Whoever is Pi$$ing LeBron off? Just STOP IT! That is Just WRONGE!

Let’s Play some B-ball & Let’s make some NOISE! Just Win!

By drmaryb

April 22, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Al Horford may have the back-bone of:

Sir-Charles Think about it! If we had a dominant #5? whew! can you say TWIN-TOWERS?

Hey HB I got Thong-Love for you too! As, long as it’s OK with my man RichBrave?

(He better say, “NO-Way! - The Girl Is Mine!” -MJ-) LMBoobiesO

doc are you stirrin’ & stirrin’ & stirrin’ that old black kettle again?

By O'brien

April 22, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

Ando, Its not just Chris Paul. BK also passed on Deron Williams who has more size. He had 20 points, 10 assists in game 1. And 22 pts, 5 assists in game 2. Both road wins. But then again, both Paul and Deron have good coaches and a defined system. Also, if Salim was getting consistent playing time (like Marvin), who knows what kind of numbers Salim would have…

By Alpha Ando

April 22, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I can see Shelden Williams being great too……..No reason to hold the team accountable for horrible decisions. Why don’t we just smile, as they increase ticket prices and scramble for the 8th seed again, next year? Keeping JJ and Bibby, and re-signing the Josh’s, at market value, puts our projected cap number at around $68 million. That’s only about $14 million more than this year. Excuse me if anyone is confusing my pragmatism for negativity, but exactly who really believes that the ASG, as it stands right now, is going to bump payroll up by $14 million? And let’s be very blunt, that Billy told Sekou he intends to re-sign the Josh’s.

I may not be a math major, but reasonable market for those two is about $12 million for Smith, and at least $6 million for Childress. Bibby and JJ are already penciled in at $28, combined.

Any one of you can google our projected cap number, for next season, and then add the realistic salaries for the Josh’s, if you are to believe Billy’s assertion that we’ll keep both Josh’s.

Yet the Joe’s and the Doc’s continue to point to a broke-a* ASG as the core problem. So either they’re not as broke as you want to paint them, or their GM is a freakin’ liar.

No matter how you slice it, this team gets busted up this summer.

Book it!

P.S. At the recommendation of Ray, I am adjusting my blog handle. Don’t hate the player. Just hate…..well, I was going to say the game. But really, you should just hate your hate. ‘Cause it’s rare that any of you actually bring a compelling counter-point, as opposed to whining and crying.

What’s even more ironic is that my last statement will elicit an onslaught of more whining and crying.

Talk about puppet mastering the masses………..

By BA

April 22, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

Lets call out everybody that had a bad game in Boston. Marvin, BIBBY, Joe, Salim, Josh Smith. Why so many guys at once? It has nothing to do with the fast breaks, or Bibby throwing up bricks; it’s BALL MOVEMENT. The passing was almost non-existent. When the Hawks are going good, they are running, and they are passing. Boston seems to prefer aggression on defense. Try to use it to your advantage. Pass out of the constant double teams. And somebody, even if you get a tech, take out this Rhondo with a good hard pick. As far as Marvin? Yeah, they should’ve picked Paul. So what? Marvin is not a bust, like Shellhead Williams. His numbers in three years have continued to increase. The rebounds(or lack thereof)? The guy plays with Horford and Josh Smith. If you’ve been watching these games, then you know these two undersized players have proven to be two of the most prolific young rebounders in the game. There’s only so many boards to get. Anyway, for every mistake Knight has made, he’s made equally good moves t